1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,800 Speaker 1: This is a special message for Knuckleheads fans. This Shaquille 2 00:00:03,840 --> 00:00:06,720 Speaker 1: O'Neill episode was shot two days prior to the tragic 3 00:00:06,760 --> 00:00:10,160 Speaker 1: passing of Kobe Bryant. We take pride in protecting our 4 00:00:10,160 --> 00:00:13,280 Speaker 1: guests and our content on our show. In this episode, 5 00:00:13,280 --> 00:00:15,720 Speaker 1: we will not be discussing or talking with Shaq about 6 00:00:15,720 --> 00:00:19,320 Speaker 1: anything pertaining to the tragic loss of Kobe Bryant. We 7 00:00:19,320 --> 00:00:21,960 Speaker 1: would like to send our sinceres condolences and prayers out 8 00:00:22,000 --> 00:00:26,759 Speaker 1: to the Brian family and all families impacted by this tragedy. 9 00:00:27,560 --> 00:00:30,560 Speaker 2: The first question we always ask everybody when they come 10 00:00:30,600 --> 00:00:32,680 Speaker 2: on the show, when you first got to the league, 11 00:00:32,760 --> 00:00:35,160 Speaker 2: who was the first person to bust your ass? 12 00:00:35,240 --> 00:00:38,640 Speaker 3: Like give you Like a lot of people bust my ass, 13 00:00:38,680 --> 00:00:43,519 Speaker 3: but so the one that but I take pride in 14 00:00:43,600 --> 00:00:47,080 Speaker 3: playing set nineteen years only being dunked on three times. 15 00:00:47,440 --> 00:00:52,760 Speaker 3: So the first person to dunk on me was Derek Coley. Yeah, yeah, 16 00:00:52,840 --> 00:00:55,480 Speaker 3: drop step with the left hand. Yeah. A lot of 17 00:00:55,480 --> 00:00:58,960 Speaker 3: people bust you and bust my ass. Robinson bust my ass, 18 00:00:59,000 --> 00:01:02,040 Speaker 3: or Keen bust my like all the big guys bust man, 19 00:01:02,520 --> 00:01:04,959 Speaker 3: and then a couple of sorry guys bust my ass, 20 00:01:05,280 --> 00:01:08,400 Speaker 3: Like I couldn't stop Big Country For some reason, I 21 00:01:08,400 --> 00:01:10,440 Speaker 3: couldn't stop him at all. I don't know what it was. 22 00:01:10,520 --> 00:01:12,319 Speaker 3: He used to He used to eat my ass up 23 00:01:12,560 --> 00:01:16,400 Speaker 3: every game, every game, him and Who and Michael Doliac. 24 00:01:16,480 --> 00:01:19,080 Speaker 3: You remember Doliac. Oh yeah, yeah, Dohiah. I remember I'm 25 00:01:19,120 --> 00:01:21,880 Speaker 3: in the first time when we came back from LA 26 00:01:21,959 --> 00:01:24,720 Speaker 3: to play Orlando. Doliac hit me for like twenty five 27 00:01:25,640 --> 00:01:29,119 Speaker 3: but the first person to dunk on me was Derrick Coleman. 28 00:01:29,680 --> 00:01:33,800 Speaker 3: Second person, Tim Perry, got me Baseline wow, and then 29 00:01:33,959 --> 00:01:37,279 Speaker 3: uh really yeah, and then Michael Jordan. I got about 30 00:01:37,360 --> 00:01:41,320 Speaker 3: thirty dunk buys. I got about seven, not paying attention 31 00:01:41,440 --> 00:01:44,520 Speaker 3: tip dunks, but dunk on chest to chest balls. The 32 00:01:44,520 --> 00:01:48,920 Speaker 3: balls only got I wanted one, one or two of them. 33 00:01:49,120 --> 00:01:50,120 Speaker 3: Then I take pride in. 34 00:01:50,040 --> 00:01:54,680 Speaker 1: That all right, man, were on location atl Shoorty. We 35 00:01:54,800 --> 00:01:57,160 Speaker 1: got the blackest one with me, and this time we 36 00:01:57,240 --> 00:02:00,320 Speaker 1: got the biggest, baddest, the most dominant. 37 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:05,120 Speaker 3: Ever, our big dog. I O g shak kill. I 38 00:02:05,120 --> 00:02:11,080 Speaker 3: mean excuse me, doctor Shaquille. Oh need nice to be 39 00:02:11,120 --> 00:02:12,760 Speaker 3: here with you. Man, it's the privileged boy. 40 00:02:12,800 --> 00:02:15,560 Speaker 1: We got the baddest man ever pull it down backboards 41 00:02:15,600 --> 00:02:16,120 Speaker 1: on you. 42 00:02:18,440 --> 00:02:20,240 Speaker 3: I just want to say I'm proud of y'all. And 43 00:02:20,280 --> 00:02:22,200 Speaker 3: did you realize when we were playing, I never messed 44 00:02:22,200 --> 00:02:26,799 Speaker 3: with you. You noticed that, right, gave I did. Yeah, 45 00:02:26,960 --> 00:02:28,679 Speaker 3: I never I never messed you. I told you to 46 00:02:28,720 --> 00:02:30,800 Speaker 3: do what you do. I never tried to block your shots. 47 00:02:31,639 --> 00:02:32,359 Speaker 3: You know that, right. 48 00:02:32,600 --> 00:02:35,000 Speaker 1: I tried to dunk all the free throw line one time. 49 00:02:35,120 --> 00:02:38,480 Speaker 1: You said, I like, you don't ever do that again 50 00:02:38,520 --> 00:02:39,919 Speaker 1: because I can hurt your whole face. 51 00:02:40,480 --> 00:02:43,000 Speaker 3: He don't ever try to like you to try that. 52 00:02:43,120 --> 00:02:45,520 Speaker 3: He was like, don't ever do that, and he was like, 53 00:02:46,360 --> 00:02:48,480 Speaker 3: you ain't blocked my shot. Was like, do it again. 54 00:02:48,560 --> 00:02:50,560 Speaker 2: So I came to try the weak side block your 55 00:02:50,560 --> 00:02:52,600 Speaker 2: shot again? You threw it to robber or he dunked 56 00:02:52,600 --> 00:02:53,120 Speaker 2: the ship out there? 57 00:02:53,200 --> 00:02:56,320 Speaker 3: Mother. He was like, you sent me up, you know, 58 00:02:56,480 --> 00:02:58,280 Speaker 3: having made a couple of weeks ago. That was strange. 59 00:02:59,040 --> 00:03:03,040 Speaker 3: Keith Closs put me side. He told me he apologized. 60 00:03:03,080 --> 00:03:04,880 Speaker 3: I said, what you apologize? But he said, man, I 61 00:03:04,919 --> 00:03:06,359 Speaker 3: just want to say, I'm just like bro. That was 62 00:03:06,400 --> 00:03:09,160 Speaker 3: twenty years ago. But he's shout out to keep Closs 63 00:03:09,600 --> 00:03:11,239 Speaker 3: like he didn't have to do that, because I don't. 64 00:03:11,320 --> 00:03:13,040 Speaker 3: I don't know what people thought it was with me 65 00:03:13,120 --> 00:03:15,840 Speaker 3: in the basketball court. But whenever I stepped out the 66 00:03:15,880 --> 00:03:17,960 Speaker 3: basketball court. Yah know, I wasn't that type of fellow 67 00:03:18,520 --> 00:03:20,519 Speaker 3: in the streets, but on the court, I was trying 68 00:03:20,560 --> 00:03:22,760 Speaker 3: to tear your head off. But he pulled him to 69 00:03:22,800 --> 00:03:25,000 Speaker 3: the side. I was because he's like, hey, I need 70 00:03:25,040 --> 00:03:28,400 Speaker 3: to holler. I'm gonna have to knock him out. To 71 00:03:28,480 --> 00:03:30,079 Speaker 3: knock him out, He's like, man, I just want to poll. 72 00:03:30,280 --> 00:03:36,000 Speaker 3: He's like a different guy. He's really what he was 73 00:03:36,440 --> 00:03:39,560 Speaker 3: shout out to keep closs. We're your boy at Alad, 74 00:03:39,680 --> 00:03:48,000 Speaker 3: We're here at whatever. The last thing I heard. 75 00:03:47,880 --> 00:03:51,280 Speaker 1: About Ola wh was Kean Dooley was telling me that 76 00:03:51,360 --> 00:03:54,800 Speaker 1: he was back overseas. I want to stay in London, 77 00:03:54,960 --> 00:03:57,640 Speaker 1: like and doing what. I don't know, he said he 78 00:03:57,680 --> 00:03:59,640 Speaker 1: was doing something doing well. You know he all the 79 00:03:59,680 --> 00:04:01,680 Speaker 1: white ain't for money, man. He came over here on 80 00:04:01,760 --> 00:04:04,320 Speaker 1: some prince of King type. He was already rich. 81 00:04:05,800 --> 00:04:08,000 Speaker 3: No, he was prince of king. He for real, like, oh, 82 00:04:08,080 --> 00:04:09,920 Speaker 3: you got to go to America and get an education. 83 00:04:10,680 --> 00:04:12,800 Speaker 1: He did the whole globe thing like now I want 84 00:04:12,840 --> 00:04:14,440 Speaker 1: to go with a water and the beaches. That's why 85 00:04:14,440 --> 00:04:17,159 Speaker 1: he went to Pacific. Found him on campus just walking 86 00:04:17,160 --> 00:04:19,640 Speaker 1: around bro. He was just walking around, coach and bring 87 00:04:19,640 --> 00:04:23,880 Speaker 1: your ass in here. And then next year, you know, yeah, 88 00:04:24,360 --> 00:04:25,200 Speaker 1: he back over there. 89 00:04:25,760 --> 00:04:27,640 Speaker 3: He told me that one day in the game. Yeah, 90 00:04:27,720 --> 00:04:32,159 Speaker 3: he was like like said, yeah, yeah, he said, you 91 00:04:32,200 --> 00:04:33,880 Speaker 3: think you're the man, but I got more money there. 92 00:04:34,600 --> 00:04:38,680 Speaker 4: I was like, I don't think so, I don't like that. 93 00:04:38,720 --> 00:04:40,839 Speaker 3: When he that was always his thing when he first 94 00:04:40,839 --> 00:04:43,320 Speaker 3: got here. He would be like really like he was 95 00:04:43,720 --> 00:04:46,520 Speaker 3: as the Martins and all that stuff. Rookie deal, rookie deal, 96 00:04:46,560 --> 00:04:47,240 Speaker 3: straight out the gate. 97 00:04:47,480 --> 00:04:50,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, so coming out, I know you traveled a lot 98 00:04:50,279 --> 00:04:51,880 Speaker 2: and so far far. What made you choose the high 99 00:04:51,880 --> 00:04:53,080 Speaker 2: school you chose, Well. 100 00:04:53,160 --> 00:04:55,200 Speaker 3: I didn't choose it. You go from military base and 101 00:04:55,240 --> 00:04:57,960 Speaker 3: military base and you live on the base, you have 102 00:04:58,040 --> 00:05:00,880 Speaker 3: to go to that school. Yeah. When got to San Antonio, 103 00:05:00,920 --> 00:05:04,240 Speaker 3: everybody was it ain't gonna be no competition at that school. 104 00:05:04,360 --> 00:05:07,320 Speaker 3: You playing against guys five to one, five two. You 105 00:05:07,400 --> 00:05:09,840 Speaker 3: need to go to a bigger school. I tried that 106 00:05:09,880 --> 00:05:11,880 Speaker 3: when my father told me something very important, he said, 107 00:05:11,880 --> 00:05:16,840 Speaker 3: when you good, they'll come to you. That's so when 108 00:05:16,880 --> 00:05:20,080 Speaker 3: I got to San Antonio, we had a gym and 109 00:05:20,200 --> 00:05:23,279 Speaker 3: had one side with bleachers, but not really bleachers like 110 00:05:23,320 --> 00:05:26,560 Speaker 3: a seat, a seat, a seed in the wall. First 111 00:05:26,600 --> 00:05:30,520 Speaker 3: year we went thirty five and one second year we 112 00:05:30,560 --> 00:05:32,800 Speaker 3: went thirty six. And oh but I noticed that as 113 00:05:32,800 --> 00:05:35,279 Speaker 3: we start playing and everybody started hearing about me, the 114 00:05:35,360 --> 00:05:38,640 Speaker 3: gym start getting packed. They started getting real packed. Yeah, 115 00:05:38,640 --> 00:05:40,600 Speaker 3: and then they had to bring more seeds, and then 116 00:05:40,760 --> 00:05:42,920 Speaker 3: you know, people be sitting outside and they had to 117 00:05:42,960 --> 00:05:46,080 Speaker 3: get like a jumbo tryum and like put the things outside. 118 00:05:46,600 --> 00:05:48,120 Speaker 3: And I was like, you know, my pops is right, 119 00:05:48,200 --> 00:05:50,240 Speaker 3: and then all the stuff they just say, well, he 120 00:05:50,279 --> 00:05:52,839 Speaker 3: ain't playing against somebody. So even though I was playing 121 00:05:52,880 --> 00:05:54,560 Speaker 3: the school, I used to go to the gym and 122 00:05:54,560 --> 00:05:56,640 Speaker 3: play with the grown men and they used to have 123 00:05:56,680 --> 00:05:59,640 Speaker 3: to walk through the hood, the Spanish hood, fight and 124 00:05:59,680 --> 00:06:01,600 Speaker 3: play on the east side and then come back. But 125 00:06:01,640 --> 00:06:04,479 Speaker 3: once my name hit the paper, the little Spanish homies, 126 00:06:04,520 --> 00:06:06,480 Speaker 3: they was like you know what, we messaged you homes 127 00:06:06,520 --> 00:06:10,360 Speaker 3: go ahead, and I had to pass away. Yeah who 128 00:06:10,400 --> 00:06:12,279 Speaker 3: won home? Yeah, there was there was like you know 129 00:06:12,320 --> 00:06:15,880 Speaker 3: what me, I'm a ed three Negro. We like you 130 00:06:15,960 --> 00:06:18,480 Speaker 3: homes go ahead. So like I had to pass shout 131 00:06:18,480 --> 00:06:20,320 Speaker 3: out to the Ramos boys because I used to have 132 00:06:20,360 --> 00:06:23,000 Speaker 3: to fight them boys every day. That's done. There yep, 133 00:06:24,040 --> 00:06:27,600 Speaker 3: I know you chose LSU. Was it any possibility anybody 134 00:06:27,600 --> 00:06:29,960 Speaker 3: else could have got you? I didn't like people telling 135 00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:33,400 Speaker 3: me stuff that sounded too good because I because I 136 00:06:33,440 --> 00:06:37,960 Speaker 3: never heard that before. Yeah, freshman and sophomore, I wasn't 137 00:06:37,960 --> 00:06:42,200 Speaker 3: that good right, junior year, Okay, senior year. Now I'm 138 00:06:42,200 --> 00:06:43,960 Speaker 3: starting to make a name of myself. So now they 139 00:06:44,040 --> 00:06:45,680 Speaker 3: was treating me like Jordan. I was like, I am, 140 00:06:45,800 --> 00:06:47,680 Speaker 3: I'm good, but I'm not that good yet. So I 141 00:06:47,720 --> 00:06:51,200 Speaker 3: went to North Carolina. Rick Fox showed me around. It 142 00:06:51,240 --> 00:06:54,680 Speaker 3: wasn't good enough for me. It was too yes, it 143 00:06:54,800 --> 00:06:57,640 Speaker 3: was too hey, hey, I don't I don't like that. 144 00:06:57,800 --> 00:07:01,640 Speaker 3: So I went to North Carolina State Gym. Actually was 145 00:07:01,640 --> 00:07:04,120 Speaker 3: a guy nor kin say. His name was Charles Shackelford. 146 00:07:05,080 --> 00:07:08,599 Speaker 3: I took his whole ship. He was shocked first, so like, 147 00:07:08,680 --> 00:07:10,520 Speaker 3: I took this whole thing, so I'm not gonna play 148 00:07:10,560 --> 00:07:12,480 Speaker 3: next to him. Can't be two shocks. I didn't want 149 00:07:12,480 --> 00:07:18,320 Speaker 3: to go there. I went to Illinois Nick and Kendall Gill. Yeah, 150 00:07:18,360 --> 00:07:20,120 Speaker 3: but it was too cold, Like it was too cold 151 00:07:20,200 --> 00:07:22,880 Speaker 3: up there, and then uh where else I go? I 152 00:07:22,920 --> 00:07:25,400 Speaker 3: went to u nl V and it was too scary. 153 00:07:25,520 --> 00:07:27,600 Speaker 3: It was just like too fast that they was taking 154 00:07:27,600 --> 00:07:29,760 Speaker 3: me out and clubs and this, And then when I 155 00:07:29,800 --> 00:07:32,720 Speaker 3: went to l s U, I was like, this is 156 00:07:32,760 --> 00:07:34,800 Speaker 3: the place I want to be. It was close to home. 157 00:07:36,080 --> 00:07:38,320 Speaker 3: You I know what type of woman I like, all 158 00:07:38,360 --> 00:07:40,960 Speaker 3: of them sitting right there and actually and actually, and 159 00:07:40,960 --> 00:07:42,720 Speaker 3: they actually set me up. So they put me in 160 00:07:42,760 --> 00:07:45,240 Speaker 3: the middle of a football game. We was winning, and 161 00:07:45,280 --> 00:07:47,720 Speaker 3: then the lights went off and he's like, baton rouge, 162 00:07:48,080 --> 00:07:51,040 Speaker 3: if you want the gentleman from San Antonio, Texas Shaquille 163 00:07:51,080 --> 00:07:52,920 Speaker 3: O'Neill to come to l s U, make some noise, 164 00:07:52,920 --> 00:07:54,640 Speaker 3: So he put the lights back on me. All the 165 00:07:54,680 --> 00:07:59,920 Speaker 3: girls are looking at her. Yeah this one. Yeah. I 166 00:08:00,680 --> 00:08:02,920 Speaker 3: went to LSU plus when I was thirteen. Dale Brown 167 00:08:02,960 --> 00:08:06,000 Speaker 3: offered me a scholarship because at thirteen I was six nine, 168 00:08:06,080 --> 00:08:09,120 Speaker 3: couldn't play, couldn't dunk. So he's like, you know what, 169 00:08:09,160 --> 00:08:11,320 Speaker 3: I believe in you, I'm gonna give you a scholarship. 170 00:08:11,360 --> 00:08:14,679 Speaker 3: So that's why I chose LSU. 171 00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:18,640 Speaker 2: When you got the LSU as a player that's to 172 00:08:18,640 --> 00:08:22,559 Speaker 2: this day right now he's playing basketball. It was Chris 173 00:08:22,640 --> 00:08:24,520 Speaker 2: Jackson and afdual Rove. 174 00:08:25,240 --> 00:08:27,000 Speaker 3: He was the best player ever seen in my life. 175 00:08:27,120 --> 00:08:29,800 Speaker 3: Boy and this, and this was the same conversation I 176 00:08:29,840 --> 00:08:32,280 Speaker 3: was having with my son the other day. I said, 177 00:08:32,360 --> 00:08:34,160 Speaker 3: me and you a simmer. What I mean by I 178 00:08:34,240 --> 00:08:38,840 Speaker 3: just our basketball career is just peaks and valleys. Started 179 00:08:38,880 --> 00:08:41,760 Speaker 3: off not so good, became pretty good. Now you go 180 00:08:41,760 --> 00:08:43,840 Speaker 3: to high school, you're not so good. Senior you winning 181 00:08:43,880 --> 00:08:46,640 Speaker 3: state championship. Now you go to college, you're not really playing. 182 00:08:46,679 --> 00:08:49,120 Speaker 3: You gotta figure that out. Yeah, So I was the 183 00:08:49,160 --> 00:08:51,880 Speaker 3: man in high school, but when I got to LSU, 184 00:08:51,880 --> 00:08:54,040 Speaker 3: I didn't get no planing time. And I understood why 185 00:08:54,480 --> 00:08:58,360 Speaker 3: Stanley used to kill me every day. Every day. Chris 186 00:08:58,440 --> 00:09:00,520 Speaker 3: Jackson was the man. So I just had to figure 187 00:09:00,520 --> 00:09:05,120 Speaker 3: it out. The day I said, f this stuff fts, 188 00:09:05,200 --> 00:09:07,880 Speaker 3: I'm gonna be the man. By day I start flourishing. 189 00:09:08,400 --> 00:09:10,240 Speaker 3: So a lot of times when you see somebody that's 190 00:09:10,280 --> 00:09:13,360 Speaker 3: above you and then you strike them and you see 191 00:09:13,360 --> 00:09:16,440 Speaker 3: their blood flow, you realize that they're human. Also, like 192 00:09:16,520 --> 00:09:18,320 Speaker 3: stan used to kill me all day, but one day, 193 00:09:18,720 --> 00:09:21,320 Speaker 3: because see a lot of people ain't know I had handles, right. Yeah, 194 00:09:21,480 --> 00:09:23,560 Speaker 3: So one day Chris miss I take it off the 195 00:09:23,600 --> 00:09:26,480 Speaker 3: break all the guards to cover, I go coast to coast, 196 00:09:26,480 --> 00:09:30,240 Speaker 3: Stanley running up outside and I Dominique double pumped that 197 00:09:30,320 --> 00:09:33,640 Speaker 3: thing on and everybody's going crazing, and I was like, okay, 198 00:09:35,000 --> 00:09:39,480 Speaker 3: yeah he can't run. Yeah, he's a human, so you 199 00:09:38,480 --> 00:09:40,880 Speaker 3: don't you don't want to move. So once I figured 200 00:09:40,920 --> 00:09:43,920 Speaker 3: that out, then it was easy for me. So you know, 201 00:09:43,960 --> 00:09:45,880 Speaker 3: I always try to, you know, tell my son the 202 00:09:45,920 --> 00:09:49,760 Speaker 3: same name, but Chris, he's my mood. I'll do rope. 203 00:09:49,760 --> 00:09:51,960 Speaker 3: I don't want to disrespect him, but yeah, and like 204 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:54,120 Speaker 3: he was the first guard because you know, because you know, 205 00:09:54,160 --> 00:09:56,160 Speaker 3: big guys like the post in the middle while y'all shooting. 206 00:09:56,600 --> 00:09:58,160 Speaker 3: He's the first guy that when he didn't throw it 207 00:09:58,160 --> 00:09:59,960 Speaker 3: to me, I couldn't get mad because he always made it. 208 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:03,200 Speaker 3: He always made damn. So he was Yeah, he was. 209 00:10:03,360 --> 00:10:04,239 Speaker 3: He was cold. 210 00:10:04,400 --> 00:10:06,600 Speaker 2: So you go through LSU and you build this hype 211 00:10:06,640 --> 00:10:10,160 Speaker 2: and you become the next best thing and you get 212 00:10:10,240 --> 00:10:12,400 Speaker 2: drafted by Orlando Magic. 213 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:14,520 Speaker 3: Did you think it was a possible? I know they 214 00:10:14,559 --> 00:10:15,560 Speaker 3: had a number one pick. 215 00:10:16,559 --> 00:10:19,079 Speaker 2: Did you think it was a possibility that they wouldn't 216 00:10:19,080 --> 00:10:20,520 Speaker 2: pick you and you would go somewhere else? 217 00:10:20,640 --> 00:10:24,439 Speaker 3: I didn't care. I think it's safe to say I'm 218 00:10:24,440 --> 00:10:28,000 Speaker 3: the only guy. Did you guys have to try out? Yeah? 219 00:10:28,080 --> 00:10:29,640 Speaker 3: I didn't have to try out. I told him, I'm 220 00:10:29,679 --> 00:10:32,719 Speaker 3: not trying to because in my mind, I knew that 221 00:10:32,800 --> 00:10:36,480 Speaker 3: Alonzo was better than me defensively and Christian late and 222 00:10:36,520 --> 00:10:38,040 Speaker 3: I had all the stuff that they make you do 223 00:10:38,200 --> 00:10:41,120 Speaker 3: at the bullshit camps, right, all that you know, all 224 00:10:41,160 --> 00:10:43,240 Speaker 3: that stuff, all that stuff that don't mean nothing once 225 00:10:43,280 --> 00:10:45,080 Speaker 3: you get in the game. So I told him myself, Look, 226 00:10:46,360 --> 00:10:48,719 Speaker 3: I ain't trying out for nobody. I know him one, two, 227 00:10:48,800 --> 00:10:51,319 Speaker 3: or three, whoever picked me, I'm going to work because 228 00:10:51,360 --> 00:10:54,760 Speaker 3: my motivation was this. As soon as I get this 229 00:10:54,840 --> 00:10:58,600 Speaker 3: check were going up up wherever the gated community, I'm 230 00:10:58,600 --> 00:11:01,160 Speaker 3: gonna say, Mama, pick one. Yeah, it ain't gonna be 231 00:11:01,240 --> 00:11:03,920 Speaker 3: no mortgages, it ain't gonna be no down payments paying 232 00:11:03,960 --> 00:11:06,600 Speaker 3: for all that. I'm gonna handle that first. So when 233 00:11:06,600 --> 00:11:08,920 Speaker 3: I got to Orlando, we went up to Lake Mary 234 00:11:09,160 --> 00:11:11,920 Speaker 3: and I did just that. Yeah, I said pick one. 235 00:11:12,160 --> 00:11:13,760 Speaker 3: She said, Oh, I think this is a good field. 236 00:11:13,800 --> 00:11:15,320 Speaker 3: So this amet for me. This is a field. So 237 00:11:16,360 --> 00:11:18,600 Speaker 3: I don't care where I went. I'ma take care of 238 00:11:18,600 --> 00:11:20,640 Speaker 3: my mama house first, and ain't nobody gonna take that 239 00:11:20,679 --> 00:11:23,240 Speaker 3: away from it. So that was my motivation when I 240 00:11:23,280 --> 00:11:25,880 Speaker 3: first got in. I thought about it that that's why 241 00:11:26,040 --> 00:11:27,680 Speaker 3: if you look at the draft and they said Shock 242 00:11:27,840 --> 00:11:29,839 Speaker 3: is the first pick, I was like, who me? Because 243 00:11:29,840 --> 00:11:31,400 Speaker 3: there was a bunch of chatter that you know, they're 244 00:11:31,400 --> 00:11:33,920 Speaker 3: gonna get Ladener, get Alonzo. But it didn't matter me 245 00:11:33,960 --> 00:11:35,200 Speaker 3: because all they knew what I was gonna do. 246 00:11:36,200 --> 00:11:40,400 Speaker 2: They created the Dream Team, and everybody in their mama 247 00:11:40,600 --> 00:11:44,439 Speaker 2: expected you to be a long team team. But you 248 00:11:44,559 --> 00:11:47,760 Speaker 2: had Christian Ladner who just had a great career at Duke, 249 00:11:48,559 --> 00:11:51,440 Speaker 2: and they chose pream Tell me what you thought about 250 00:11:51,559 --> 00:11:53,920 Speaker 2: the whole situation. Off, You're not getting the opportunity to 251 00:11:53,960 --> 00:11:57,480 Speaker 2: play with with Mike and Magic and Bird on that 252 00:11:57,559 --> 00:11:58,160 Speaker 2: dream team. 253 00:11:59,120 --> 00:12:01,040 Speaker 3: They had a whole bunch of wars. He was giving out, 254 00:12:01,120 --> 00:12:03,080 Speaker 3: he was winning some in college. I was winning something. 255 00:12:03,480 --> 00:12:08,200 Speaker 3: I think I want a player. They but I don't 256 00:12:08,240 --> 00:12:11,439 Speaker 3: get mad. I get even yeah, because my whole life, 257 00:12:11,640 --> 00:12:14,560 Speaker 3: especially as a youngster, you ain't that good. Now I 258 00:12:14,559 --> 00:12:18,240 Speaker 3: gotta show you. Yeah. So it's just it's just the 259 00:12:18,320 --> 00:12:21,600 Speaker 3: same thing that that I was already used to. So 260 00:12:21,679 --> 00:12:23,640 Speaker 3: I'm kind of glad I didn't go because I think 261 00:12:23,640 --> 00:12:25,120 Speaker 3: ifout a win, it would have made me a little 262 00:12:25,160 --> 00:12:27,719 Speaker 3: cutter coming in. So the fact that I didn't go 263 00:12:29,280 --> 00:12:32,360 Speaker 3: h Magic. Remember Magic used to have that run every morning. 264 00:12:32,440 --> 00:12:35,920 Speaker 3: I was there every morning, every morning, ten o'clock, running 265 00:12:36,000 --> 00:12:38,280 Speaker 3: just learning the game, running me and Magic on the break. 266 00:12:38,760 --> 00:12:40,719 Speaker 3: So I knew when I got the league, I was 267 00:12:40,720 --> 00:12:42,560 Speaker 3: gonna be in tip top shape, and I was gonna 268 00:12:42,559 --> 00:12:44,360 Speaker 3: get ready, and I was gonna let the world know 269 00:12:44,480 --> 00:12:47,480 Speaker 3: my name. So I was. I was upset, but I 270 00:12:47,480 --> 00:12:48,160 Speaker 3: don't get mad. 271 00:12:48,200 --> 00:12:50,680 Speaker 1: I get even so talk about once you once you 272 00:12:50,840 --> 00:12:54,200 Speaker 1: got drafted, right like you came through the door, and 273 00:12:54,559 --> 00:12:58,679 Speaker 1: literally ever since you've probably been the most I mean 274 00:12:58,720 --> 00:13:01,720 Speaker 1: obviously you in my been most dominant force in the league. 275 00:13:01,760 --> 00:13:05,360 Speaker 3: Yo. But like I won't talk about the endorsements. 276 00:13:04,760 --> 00:13:07,280 Speaker 1: Since day one, Like have you ever spent any of 277 00:13:07,280 --> 00:13:09,559 Speaker 1: your NBA contrast or has it been all just been 278 00:13:11,080 --> 00:13:13,800 Speaker 1: like right now, even now, you still running away, like 279 00:13:13,840 --> 00:13:15,120 Speaker 1: you know how some people. 280 00:13:14,800 --> 00:13:18,199 Speaker 3: Be like answer a question, it's called marriage, divorce and children. 281 00:13:18,360 --> 00:13:20,880 Speaker 3: Oh so hell yeah, I spent some of that money. 282 00:13:20,880 --> 00:13:25,680 Speaker 3: I spent a lot of it. So when I was 283 00:13:25,720 --> 00:13:29,679 Speaker 3: in college, I failed marketing class because I used to 284 00:13:29,679 --> 00:13:32,360 Speaker 3: sit around and dream. I said, ship, Mike got some 285 00:13:32,679 --> 00:13:35,120 Speaker 3: he got the jump man, let me go and create 286 00:13:35,160 --> 00:13:38,240 Speaker 3: the dunk Man. Right. So I already already had it 287 00:13:38,240 --> 00:13:40,319 Speaker 3: in college, and in my mind I was like, if 288 00:13:40,320 --> 00:13:43,480 Speaker 3: I can get just just get onto the other side, 289 00:13:43,520 --> 00:13:46,120 Speaker 3: I'm gonna try to get a shoe, t shirts, jackets, 290 00:13:46,160 --> 00:13:49,640 Speaker 3: all that stuff. So in marketing class, I uh, the 291 00:13:49,679 --> 00:13:52,560 Speaker 3: guy said, all right, present us something that could be 292 00:13:52,600 --> 00:13:55,439 Speaker 3: sold in the future. So I came with Shack shirts, 293 00:13:55,559 --> 00:13:59,400 Speaker 3: Shack underwear, Shack, Todd Shack, everything. And the guy embarrassed 294 00:13:59,400 --> 00:14:00,959 Speaker 3: me in class. He's said, ah, I see you put 295 00:14:01,000 --> 00:14:03,880 Speaker 3: a lot into this missterore Neil, but uh, this is 296 00:14:03,920 --> 00:14:05,679 Speaker 3: not good enough. And I said why. He said, if 297 00:14:05,720 --> 00:14:07,520 Speaker 3: you look at the climate of the NBA, big guys 298 00:14:07,559 --> 00:14:10,720 Speaker 3: don't sell, and he made a good point. I was like, damn, 299 00:14:10,720 --> 00:14:13,360 Speaker 3: big eyes don't sell. At that time, it was only 300 00:14:13,440 --> 00:14:16,880 Speaker 3: Magic and a Bird doing commercials. So I went back. 301 00:14:16,920 --> 00:14:18,320 Speaker 3: I was like, damn, I ain't gonna never get my 302 00:14:18,320 --> 00:14:20,080 Speaker 3: own shoe. I ain't gonna never get nothing. I'm gonna 303 00:14:20,080 --> 00:14:22,480 Speaker 3: be like be like all these other big guys. And 304 00:14:22,560 --> 00:14:25,400 Speaker 3: as I'm sitting in my room chilling, this dumb ass 305 00:14:25,440 --> 00:14:30,440 Speaker 3: dog kept coming on TV Spuds Mackenzie. He had everything. 306 00:14:30,520 --> 00:14:32,600 Speaker 3: So then I was like this that's the stupidest commercial up. 307 00:14:32,640 --> 00:14:34,920 Speaker 3: Then I go to the store. He got cups every 308 00:14:34,960 --> 00:14:37,800 Speaker 3: god hats. I go to another store, so he got 309 00:14:38,080 --> 00:14:40,400 Speaker 3: like he got l s us. But so I go back. 310 00:14:41,480 --> 00:14:43,880 Speaker 3: I'm saying, like, why do you like this dog? And 311 00:14:43,920 --> 00:14:46,040 Speaker 3: they liked the dog because everything he did was funny. 312 00:14:46,720 --> 00:14:50,600 Speaker 3: So I said, Okay, if I ever get commercials, I'm 313 00:14:50,640 --> 00:14:52,760 Speaker 3: a funny guy. I just got to make people laugh 314 00:14:53,000 --> 00:14:55,120 Speaker 3: because my secret is not to say you're the product, 315 00:14:55,120 --> 00:14:58,280 Speaker 3: but make you remember the product. You know, like this 316 00:14:58,440 --> 00:15:01,560 Speaker 3: right here, it'll be us over the drinks and then 317 00:15:01,600 --> 00:15:03,440 Speaker 3: all of us will fall out the window. That should 318 00:15:03,560 --> 00:15:06,480 Speaker 3: go viral. Right you know what was they fighting over? 319 00:15:06,520 --> 00:15:10,240 Speaker 3: There was fighting over hennessy? Yeah, how you do it? 320 00:15:11,080 --> 00:15:13,200 Speaker 3: And we fall out the window? Yeah? You know, just 321 00:15:13,240 --> 00:15:16,080 Speaker 3: fuck So things like that. So like I try to 322 00:15:17,160 --> 00:15:19,440 Speaker 3: I try to create all my own commercials, and I 323 00:15:19,480 --> 00:15:23,040 Speaker 3: try I try not to get involved or invest in 324 00:15:23,040 --> 00:15:24,920 Speaker 3: a product that I don't believe in. See, like a 325 00:15:24,920 --> 00:15:27,920 Speaker 3: lot of people think these things are endorsement, but a 326 00:15:27,920 --> 00:15:31,320 Speaker 3: lot of companies I'm involved. I want a piece. So well, 327 00:15:31,360 --> 00:15:32,440 Speaker 3: I gotta ask you one thing. 328 00:15:33,160 --> 00:15:35,760 Speaker 2: Can you introduce me to the general because Suance how 329 00:15:35,800 --> 00:15:36,600 Speaker 2: as a motherfucker. 330 00:15:36,680 --> 00:15:39,000 Speaker 3: I need you know why. I message the General. See 331 00:15:39,000 --> 00:15:41,400 Speaker 3: like people are, oh, you're just taking it. Like if 332 00:15:41,440 --> 00:15:43,320 Speaker 3: you look at me from the outside, you don't know me. 333 00:15:43,840 --> 00:15:45,360 Speaker 3: You just think I'm doing a lot of these things 334 00:15:45,360 --> 00:15:48,880 Speaker 3: for money. When I was in college, everybody had car 335 00:15:48,960 --> 00:15:52,360 Speaker 3: with me. Chris had a card, had a car. So 336 00:15:52,480 --> 00:15:55,160 Speaker 3: I see this four Bronco to for forty nine hundred. 337 00:15:57,080 --> 00:16:00,680 Speaker 3: Hey damn the thousands. So I finally get five thousands. 338 00:16:00,720 --> 00:16:04,600 Speaker 3: It was Burgundy, get it. Go to the guys, say, hey, man, 339 00:16:04,600 --> 00:16:06,120 Speaker 3: I've been wanting this car. He said, shock, Yeah, I 340 00:16:06,200 --> 00:16:08,640 Speaker 3: moved a seatback for you. So they said, uh, before 341 00:16:08,680 --> 00:16:11,440 Speaker 3: you for I gey keys, you need some insurance. I'm like, 342 00:16:11,560 --> 00:16:15,720 Speaker 3: the fuck is insurance insurance? So I went to all 343 00:16:15,720 --> 00:16:18,160 Speaker 3: the other insurance hundred, twenty a month, thirty a month. 344 00:16:18,520 --> 00:16:20,480 Speaker 3: I'm like, damn, you have to go get my money 345 00:16:20,520 --> 00:16:22,600 Speaker 3: back or I just can't get this car. So then 346 00:16:22,640 --> 00:16:25,080 Speaker 3: the last place I went by was the General. My 347 00:16:25,120 --> 00:16:28,040 Speaker 3: assurance was nineteen dollars a month full coverage, not the 348 00:16:28,080 --> 00:16:31,440 Speaker 3: full foo cup but enough you know, crash all that stuff. 349 00:16:31,480 --> 00:16:34,080 Speaker 3: So that's why I missed it the General because before 350 00:16:34,120 --> 00:16:37,160 Speaker 3: I was the character on the shack they took care 351 00:16:37,200 --> 00:16:38,960 Speaker 3: of me. That's why I'm with the general. I'm with 352 00:16:39,280 --> 00:16:43,040 Speaker 3: uh yeah, I'm with gold Bon because we as black people. 353 00:16:43,080 --> 00:16:46,120 Speaker 3: Everybody need lotion. You guys know that icy hot work. 354 00:16:47,040 --> 00:16:51,600 Speaker 3: So you know Zeal's jury. I like bling four too, 355 00:16:51,720 --> 00:16:59,360 Speaker 3: little coffee shots give you energy. Ring ring affordable, affordable security. 356 00:17:00,000 --> 00:17:02,880 Speaker 3: That's my first time not not living like a spoiled brat. 357 00:17:03,080 --> 00:17:05,720 Speaker 3: What I mean by that, I'm living out amongst the people. 358 00:17:05,760 --> 00:17:07,560 Speaker 3: So I call these people, Hey, man, this shack. Let 359 00:17:07,600 --> 00:17:12,119 Speaker 3: me get the security company. So the dude come by 360 00:17:13,240 --> 00:17:16,320 Speaker 3: ten thouars girl for the house thirty acres, also going 361 00:17:16,359 --> 00:17:19,159 Speaker 3: to be about sixty thousand. I'm not paying that. How 362 00:17:19,160 --> 00:17:21,040 Speaker 3: old do we get? We got to be smarter with 363 00:17:21,080 --> 00:17:24,399 Speaker 3: the money. It's not doing that. Call another guy. He 364 00:17:24,440 --> 00:17:26,680 Speaker 3: said thirty thousand. So I go to Best Part just 365 00:17:26,720 --> 00:17:28,720 Speaker 3: to get some TVs. And I see this little ring 366 00:17:28,760 --> 00:17:31,879 Speaker 3: camera and I get it. I just hooked it up myself. 367 00:17:31,920 --> 00:17:34,800 Speaker 3: I don't even know what work. I'm in China. A 368 00:17:34,880 --> 00:17:37,120 Speaker 3: fly go by the house and the things. I'm like, man, 369 00:17:37,119 --> 00:17:39,879 Speaker 3: this should work. So when I came back, I just 370 00:17:39,880 --> 00:17:41,479 Speaker 3: got the whole house of rings. So when I went 371 00:17:41,520 --> 00:17:44,280 Speaker 3: to ces and man, with the owner. I said, listen, 372 00:17:46,000 --> 00:17:48,359 Speaker 3: you invest by you're doing a good job, but my 373 00:17:48,440 --> 00:17:51,000 Speaker 3: people don't know about what you're doing here. Like, what 374 00:17:51,000 --> 00:17:53,000 Speaker 3: do you mean? I said, let me invest in the company, 375 00:17:53,560 --> 00:17:55,639 Speaker 3: let me do some commercials, let me help get the 376 00:17:55,640 --> 00:17:58,320 Speaker 3: word out. And he sold the company to Amazon for 377 00:17:58,800 --> 00:18:02,199 Speaker 3: a lot of money. I like to, you know, just 378 00:18:02,480 --> 00:18:06,040 Speaker 3: use myself to build stuff up. Let me ask you this. 379 00:18:06,160 --> 00:18:08,760 Speaker 2: Back in the day before our era, they used to 380 00:18:08,800 --> 00:18:12,320 Speaker 2: tell NBA players if you did too much outside of 381 00:18:12,320 --> 00:18:14,720 Speaker 2: the game, it's like you're not focusing on the game. 382 00:18:14,880 --> 00:18:17,560 Speaker 2: Or if I'm doing too many commercials, or he don't 383 00:18:17,560 --> 00:18:20,359 Speaker 2: care about the game, or he don't care about winning, 384 00:18:20,600 --> 00:18:23,199 Speaker 2: or so far at some point that that discourage you 385 00:18:23,240 --> 00:18:25,240 Speaker 2: where you slowed down a little bit and where you 386 00:18:25,240 --> 00:18:27,280 Speaker 2: want a championship, and then got back to it. 387 00:18:27,359 --> 00:18:30,399 Speaker 3: It only slowed me down in two thousand because I 388 00:18:30,400 --> 00:18:33,080 Speaker 3: promised Phil I wouldn't do it. So now that I'm 389 00:18:33,119 --> 00:18:35,480 Speaker 3: not doing they wanted two commercials. But now that I 390 00:18:35,520 --> 00:18:38,040 Speaker 3: was slowing down and I was winning, I was like, okay, 391 00:18:38,200 --> 00:18:42,080 Speaker 3: this must be away. So second time slowed down, third 392 00:18:42,119 --> 00:18:44,640 Speaker 3: time slow But before that, no, I'm not gonna slow down. 393 00:18:44,960 --> 00:18:47,399 Speaker 3: And the reason is we don't come from a lot. Yeah, 394 00:18:47,440 --> 00:18:50,639 Speaker 3: so when we get the opportunity, the correct opportunity to 395 00:18:50,680 --> 00:18:52,480 Speaker 3: get a lot, you always have to take advantage of 396 00:18:52,480 --> 00:18:54,960 Speaker 3: take advantage of it. Like people, oh you did kazam. 397 00:18:55,200 --> 00:18:59,720 Speaker 3: Forget Kazzam. That's seven million. Yeah, blue chips, that's three million. 398 00:19:00,320 --> 00:19:02,680 Speaker 3: Unless I'm not a little movie star, I'm not trying 399 00:19:02,680 --> 00:19:05,160 Speaker 3: to Yeah, I ain't trying to get I ain't trying 400 00:19:05,200 --> 00:19:07,280 Speaker 3: to do all that. It's an opportunity. Like you know, 401 00:19:07,320 --> 00:19:09,040 Speaker 3: we all from the hood, we all we used to 402 00:19:09,040 --> 00:19:11,080 Speaker 3: watch people on TV. Now people get to watch us 403 00:19:11,119 --> 00:19:13,840 Speaker 3: on TV. So you know a lot of times we 404 00:19:13,920 --> 00:19:16,560 Speaker 3: get too caught up and what other people say about 405 00:19:16,600 --> 00:19:18,639 Speaker 3: what we're doing. But I'm gonna always take advantage of 406 00:19:18,640 --> 00:19:22,080 Speaker 3: the correct opportunity because sorry to cut you off, because 407 00:19:22,080 --> 00:19:24,719 Speaker 3: where we come from, there's two opportunities. There's the correct 408 00:19:24,720 --> 00:19:27,919 Speaker 3: opportunity and that's in the wrong opportunity. So as long 409 00:19:27,920 --> 00:19:30,240 Speaker 3: as we take advantage of the right opportunities, I don't 410 00:19:30,280 --> 00:19:33,320 Speaker 3: really care about dot com speaking of that. So when 411 00:19:33,359 --> 00:19:35,399 Speaker 3: you when you got drafts, I know you got you 412 00:19:35,520 --> 00:19:38,359 Speaker 3: took mom to go to the crib. What did you 413 00:19:38,480 --> 00:19:40,480 Speaker 3: get like, because because we. 414 00:19:40,520 --> 00:19:43,560 Speaker 1: All go always something where it's like I gotta I 415 00:19:43,560 --> 00:19:45,240 Speaker 1: ain't never had, Like you said, we come from none. 416 00:19:45,280 --> 00:19:47,480 Speaker 1: It's like people might look back on like he was 417 00:19:47,520 --> 00:19:49,480 Speaker 1: crazy for getting that, But what what did you get? 418 00:19:49,600 --> 00:19:53,760 Speaker 3: Always tell us toys? Yeah, you know, like always tell 419 00:19:53,760 --> 00:19:56,560 Speaker 3: people the story and that's the true story. So first 420 00:19:56,680 --> 00:19:58,600 Speaker 3: money I got, even before I got drafted, was a 421 00:19:58,680 --> 00:20:04,080 Speaker 3: card signing right, a million. Excuse me, it was a 422 00:20:04,119 --> 00:20:08,800 Speaker 3: million thousands some real light. So I said, I gotta 423 00:20:08,840 --> 00:20:12,679 Speaker 3: go get the black on black five hundred sitting sitting 424 00:20:12,680 --> 00:20:18,080 Speaker 3: on them nineteen inch hammers. Yeah, no, no for her one 425 00:20:18,160 --> 00:20:20,600 Speaker 3: fifty and like I had no negotiating skills. I going 426 00:20:20,640 --> 00:20:27,240 Speaker 3: to how much one fifty? Boss? Move to seaback a 427 00:20:27,240 --> 00:20:31,280 Speaker 3: couple of inches? Call me? Rolled around the herd? What's 428 00:20:31,320 --> 00:20:33,160 Speaker 3: about all man? You might you're gonna be then more player? 429 00:20:33,160 --> 00:20:35,480 Speaker 3: I don't know, dog whatever. Well I get home. My 430 00:20:35,600 --> 00:20:37,840 Speaker 3: dad like that's not where's mine at now? I'm not 431 00:20:37,880 --> 00:20:39,600 Speaker 3: the smartest guy, no word. So I know a million 432 00:20:39,680 --> 00:20:41,840 Speaker 3: minus one fifty. Shit, I got eight to fifty left, 433 00:20:43,920 --> 00:20:46,560 Speaker 3: Pop and Pops we go, he get the same joint. 434 00:20:46,600 --> 00:20:50,240 Speaker 3: I get black on black. Wow, we get the little 435 00:20:50,280 --> 00:20:52,520 Speaker 3: German place, say Shack's dad, in the front of that 436 00:20:52,600 --> 00:20:56,160 Speaker 3: thing rolling. We get home. My mom, where's mine at? 437 00:20:56,200 --> 00:20:57,760 Speaker 3: She don't want the big one. She went the little one. 438 00:20:58,240 --> 00:21:00,680 Speaker 3: I got seven hundred left hers because I got six 439 00:21:00,760 --> 00:21:03,520 Speaker 3: hundred left. So after I dropped him off, I drop 440 00:21:03,560 --> 00:21:05,080 Speaker 3: it off. You know, I got to get that. Boom 441 00:21:05,119 --> 00:21:08,560 Speaker 3: boom boom. I gotta get that. I went to the 442 00:21:08,640 --> 00:21:14,119 Speaker 3: jury shop. I bought at a bought about a dukey 443 00:21:14,240 --> 00:21:16,480 Speaker 3: rope chain. I'm about a nugger chain. I'm about a 444 00:21:16,520 --> 00:21:20,240 Speaker 3: two finger ring. I had to Uh, I got a 445 00:21:20,359 --> 00:21:23,240 Speaker 3: high rise San Antonio paid that off for the year. 446 00:21:23,800 --> 00:21:26,640 Speaker 3: So like the next couple of days, the bank manager 447 00:21:26,680 --> 00:21:28,800 Speaker 3: called me the shocking hea, you come to the bank. 448 00:21:29,760 --> 00:21:31,800 Speaker 3: And when I came to the bank, he said, uh, 449 00:21:32,119 --> 00:21:34,080 Speaker 3: look man, I want you to be like everybody else, 450 00:21:34,880 --> 00:21:37,600 Speaker 3: and he showed me and I was like, yeah, I 451 00:21:37,640 --> 00:21:39,639 Speaker 3: did this, I did this. I did this. And I 452 00:21:39,680 --> 00:21:43,840 Speaker 3: was like, who the fuck is Fiker? I had took 453 00:21:43,920 --> 00:21:46,639 Speaker 3: like like three hundred thousand, Like, no, I don't. I 454 00:21:46,680 --> 00:21:49,040 Speaker 3: don't know if you know you're trying to set me up. 455 00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:52,480 Speaker 3: I said, no, man, fighter is you know the money 456 00:21:52,480 --> 00:21:54,719 Speaker 3: that the that the government takes out. So I had 457 00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:57,000 Speaker 3: no idea. I didn't know nothing about that. The government, 458 00:21:57,040 --> 00:21:59,199 Speaker 3: you know nothing about none of that. So I was 459 00:21:59,240 --> 00:22:00,960 Speaker 3: like So after that, I was like, you know what, 460 00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:04,040 Speaker 3: I gotta start being smart. I really do have to 461 00:22:04,040 --> 00:22:07,240 Speaker 3: start being smart. So that I went. I had my 462 00:22:07,320 --> 00:22:11,199 Speaker 3: guy bring me the five top financial advisors and I 463 00:22:11,240 --> 00:22:14,399 Speaker 3: remember reading in Kareem's book because my dad was the 464 00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:17,440 Speaker 3: type that whenever athlete this I'm crazy, I would get 465 00:22:17,440 --> 00:22:21,320 Speaker 3: in trouble. No, seriously, worst asshopping on my life was 466 00:22:21,320 --> 00:22:24,560 Speaker 3: when letting Bias die. My father came to the house 467 00:22:24,600 --> 00:22:27,840 Speaker 3: and went crazy, for see you messing around with Cole. 468 00:22:27,880 --> 00:22:29,440 Speaker 3: I'm a kid, you know. I was like, I drink 469 00:22:29,480 --> 00:22:34,320 Speaker 3: PEPSI bro I was thirteen, Like he was going. He 470 00:22:34,400 --> 00:22:36,679 Speaker 3: was crying like it was his son. He's like, sit 471 00:22:36,760 --> 00:22:39,320 Speaker 3: down and watch this. So that's how I never did drugs. 472 00:22:39,320 --> 00:22:41,440 Speaker 3: That's why I never drink. He was like if I 473 00:22:41,440 --> 00:22:44,080 Speaker 3: if I get called, my father gonna kill me. So 474 00:22:44,119 --> 00:22:47,640 Speaker 3: we interviewed the top five people and it was one guy. 475 00:22:47,720 --> 00:22:49,000 Speaker 3: I was like, hey, I can do this. I can 476 00:22:49,040 --> 00:22:51,160 Speaker 3: do I was like, I like him all as matter 477 00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:52,960 Speaker 3: of fact, he used to he used to manage easy 478 00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:55,399 Speaker 3: ease money. So that's why that's why I chose You 479 00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:58,040 Speaker 3: know Lester, right, Yeah, you know my Lester. You know 480 00:22:58,080 --> 00:23:00,600 Speaker 3: you probably know Lesson. But he's a little, a little, 481 00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:03,000 Speaker 3: little short white guy, and he would see what's cool 482 00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:05,000 Speaker 3: all the other guys, Oh I can do this, I 483 00:23:05,040 --> 00:23:08,000 Speaker 3: can do that. I don't like people that talk fast. Yeah, 484 00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:09,440 Speaker 3: I don't fast talking. 485 00:23:10,760 --> 00:23:14,080 Speaker 2: So win Rookie of the Year and you have successful 486 00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:16,760 Speaker 2: years in Orlando, but it seemed like you missing a piece. 487 00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:19,760 Speaker 2: To kind of get over that. You do a movie 488 00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:23,080 Speaker 2: called Blue Chips. You get that, you get the opportunity 489 00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:27,480 Speaker 2: to meet Anthony Hardaway before he's ever played an NBA game. 490 00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:32,880 Speaker 3: I'm the type that I don't care about no other players. Yeah, 491 00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:34,240 Speaker 3: I won't even looking at them. I know what I 492 00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:36,399 Speaker 3: gotta do. I know the money I'm gonna get. I 493 00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:39,080 Speaker 3: never knew who Penny all the way was. I'm doing 494 00:23:39,119 --> 00:23:43,240 Speaker 3: what I'm doing. So we playing and they keep putting 495 00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:46,600 Speaker 3: us on the same team. I'm like, dann this, I'm like, man, 496 00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:52,880 Speaker 3: this actor he cold. I'm telling like I would run 497 00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:55,640 Speaker 3: and like every time I do like this, he cold 498 00:23:55,680 --> 00:23:57,880 Speaker 3: And then find as much. Man, it's Penny all the way? Man? 499 00:23:58,400 --> 00:24:00,639 Speaker 3: I said, who fucking Penny all the way? Said? Man? 500 00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:03,160 Speaker 3: He's probably gonna be the third pick because I knew 501 00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:06,520 Speaker 3: we had the first pick. But behind closed door, D 502 00:24:06,600 --> 00:24:08,680 Speaker 3: Scott always telling me, man, it's your team. You got 503 00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:10,840 Speaker 3: to take over. Say. I've never been the guy to 504 00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:12,600 Speaker 3: come in the office and say do this, do that. 505 00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:15,400 Speaker 3: Eventually I had to become that to get my way. 506 00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:17,879 Speaker 3: He said, Man, you gotta do what you gotta do it. So, 507 00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:19,679 Speaker 3: after playing with them all summer, I say, let me 508 00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:23,160 Speaker 3: try this out. So I went to the office John Gabriel. 509 00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:27,600 Speaker 3: I said, John, the draft is coming up. Scott Skoyts 510 00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:31,080 Speaker 3: was cool, but I'm envisioning the next magic in Kareem. 511 00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:32,840 Speaker 3: It's a guy named Penny Hall. The way I've been 512 00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:35,800 Speaker 3: with them all summer. If you don't draft them, I'm 513 00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:37,639 Speaker 3: gonna be looking to do something out. When my dealer's 514 00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:40,200 Speaker 3: up and I walked away. But I was scared, and 515 00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:46,600 Speaker 3: I said I was I was terrifying. So then I'm 516 00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:49,399 Speaker 3: watching the driver that grabbed me and d Scott and 517 00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:52,720 Speaker 3: they picked se Weeb. I teared my house up, break 518 00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:55,879 Speaker 3: a TV because oh they disrespected me. Now I gotta go. 519 00:24:57,240 --> 00:24:59,119 Speaker 3: And then I calm down and then they made the 520 00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:04,000 Speaker 3: trad Damn this works. And then we had a good year, 521 00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:07,560 Speaker 3: and of course we lose, and I'm watching the bulls. 522 00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:13,080 Speaker 3: Horse Grant doesn't like being in Chicago nomore. Hey John 523 00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:15,560 Speaker 3: getting me Horse Grant now on me thinking about doing 524 00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:18,680 Speaker 3: something up. By the time I deal up, oh yeah, 525 00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:22,680 Speaker 3: you know I did. So we got horse now. It 526 00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:25,400 Speaker 3: was on our way and we made it to the finals. 527 00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:28,840 Speaker 3: And it was my fault that we lost because I 528 00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:32,200 Speaker 3: knew we could beat Mike. They wasn't scared anymore. Sit 529 00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:34,760 Speaker 3: on TNTL there. I was scared, but after I saw 530 00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:37,240 Speaker 3: he was human, and then I'm not guarding him anyway, 531 00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:40,119 Speaker 3: so he gonna get his anyway. He gonna get his. 532 00:25:40,280 --> 00:25:41,920 Speaker 3: But we got slow. The other guy and these big 533 00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:44,000 Speaker 3: bombs has guarded me. I'm just gonna do what I do, 534 00:25:44,119 --> 00:25:46,600 Speaker 3: and I gotta they're gonna start a hacker checking. I 535 00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:48,639 Speaker 3: gotta knock him down. So I knew we could beat him. 536 00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:50,800 Speaker 3: And then when we beat him, we had like ten 537 00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:56,000 Speaker 3: days off me and the Scott was wild heroes down 538 00:25:56,160 --> 00:26:02,480 Speaker 3: out Orlando. Yeah, privates behind me. And then when because 539 00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:05,840 Speaker 3: we beat Hereston that yeah, you know, keem get his, 540 00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:08,600 Speaker 3: I get mine. But it wasn't no, you know, And 541 00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:12,320 Speaker 3: so we was like, man, I got him. He he's 542 00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:14,200 Speaker 3: gonna put up his numbers, but I'm he gonna have 543 00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:16,480 Speaker 3: to guard me too. And then in the finals he 544 00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:18,480 Speaker 3: was just a different beast. I was like, damn, it's 545 00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:20,920 Speaker 3: a different game right here. Let me ask you this. 546 00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:24,680 Speaker 2: You chose them to make the big move on getting Penny. 547 00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:28,199 Speaker 2: To see the success that Penny was getting and how 548 00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:31,159 Speaker 2: he was playing, How proud are you of that to 549 00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:34,119 Speaker 2: be like, man, I chose, I chose. I seen that 550 00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:35,720 Speaker 2: in him that he can be something. 551 00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:39,600 Speaker 3: No, it was. It was great. And that's why I 552 00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:41,760 Speaker 3: always tell the youngsters, no matter what, you got to 553 00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:44,760 Speaker 3: stick together because we let them break us up. Yeah, 554 00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:47,639 Speaker 3: whoever that may be. But it was always it's hit 555 00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:51,679 Speaker 3: Penny's team, he shocks. It was always that little stupid stuff. Right. 556 00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:56,520 Speaker 3: So then when Penny guy that I wanted to get 557 00:26:56,560 --> 00:26:58,760 Speaker 3: some new money, which was more than mine, I was like, 558 00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:00,960 Speaker 3: go ahead, take care of them, Like I stop for 559 00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:04,280 Speaker 3: him because I understand the game if a BMW because 560 00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:07,080 Speaker 3: one fifteen once you think of Ben's gonna cost. So 561 00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:09,080 Speaker 3: I was like, pay him because my ship coming up 562 00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:10,720 Speaker 3: right after heads and you're gonna have to pay me 563 00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:12,719 Speaker 3: to So I was like hey, take care of him, 564 00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:15,200 Speaker 3: So I took over for him. When it came time 565 00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:17,320 Speaker 3: for me to get mine, nobody stood up for me. 566 00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:21,399 Speaker 3: I was like, oh, okay, all right, ain't that about it? 567 00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:25,040 Speaker 3: And then I felt the change a little bit, and 568 00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:27,440 Speaker 3: I was already in La all summer anyway. I was like, 569 00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:30,440 Speaker 3: you know what, I'm gonna do something different. I'm gonna 570 00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:32,560 Speaker 3: do something different, And it turned to be the best 571 00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:35,240 Speaker 3: decision in my life to make the decisions go to Lave. Yeah. 572 00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:37,880 Speaker 2: So when you get to LA and you have all 573 00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:40,480 Speaker 2: this talent, you're trying to put it together with the 574 00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:42,840 Speaker 2: first couple of years, you just didn't get over that hump. 575 00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:45,360 Speaker 2: How did you feel? Because I get over that hamp? 576 00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:47,720 Speaker 3: Yet? Did you get because we all were too happy? 577 00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:54,840 Speaker 3: You remember how La was Monday in Prouv Tuesday comedy Store, Wednesday, 578 00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:59,160 Speaker 3: Georgia's Thursday, the Gate across the street, Yeah, the Gate 579 00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:04,400 Speaker 3: Century City. It was just it was just too much 580 00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:09,200 Speaker 3: going on, and that's crazy. We just didn't focus. And 581 00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:12,320 Speaker 3: then you got the point where everybody started pointing at me, 582 00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:16,040 Speaker 3: Shack doing that, Shack doing that. So I was like, okay, 583 00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:18,520 Speaker 3: let me, let me, let me use my powers again. 584 00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:22,840 Speaker 3: This coach ain't gonna work. This coach ain't gonna work. 585 00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:27,480 Speaker 3: Bring me Phil Jackson. We don't know. Bring me Phil Jackson. 586 00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:29,840 Speaker 3: Oh when my deal out me looking do something else? 587 00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:32,920 Speaker 3: So they bringing Phil Phil have a conversation. Phil said, 588 00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:36,760 Speaker 3: it's your fulck. So you have I watch you, but 589 00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:39,880 Speaker 3: you don't You don't go to the next step. I said, 590 00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:42,200 Speaker 3: what do you mean by that? He said, the only 591 00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:45,720 Speaker 3: thing Michael did was play. Do his thing is play. 592 00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:47,440 Speaker 3: So I don't mind you doing your thing and play, 593 00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:50,200 Speaker 3: but Michael, don't do this and do that. And he said, 594 00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:53,240 Speaker 3: if you guarantee me that you just do what Michael 595 00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:55,960 Speaker 3: used to do, you're gonna not only get MVP and win. 596 00:28:56,120 --> 00:28:57,600 Speaker 3: So I said, all right, cool. When I did it 597 00:28:57,640 --> 00:29:00,840 Speaker 3: and it worked, So I just got tired of here 598 00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:04,040 Speaker 3: and it was my fault. And then I always wanted 599 00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:07,320 Speaker 3: to be that guy that people said was really good. Yeah, 600 00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:08,840 Speaker 3: I don't want to be the guy that, oh he 601 00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:10,960 Speaker 3: did this, he did that, But I never wanted to 602 00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:12,600 Speaker 3: have a butt dominance. So it was just at that 603 00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:16,400 Speaker 3: time and then Kobe was coming into his just killer, 604 00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:18,520 Speaker 3: We're very tough to beat. 605 00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:22,600 Speaker 1: Talk about that three year stretch though, how that was 606 00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:24,920 Speaker 1: because I, like you said, we was the little brothers. 607 00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:27,400 Speaker 1: We was right there in La watching this whole thing, 608 00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:30,600 Speaker 1: watching y'all dominate, regardless, like you say, regardless of whatever 609 00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:33,720 Speaker 1: the storyline was. Outside again, when y'all got on record, 610 00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:36,360 Speaker 1: it was pure dominance. Like how was that being a 611 00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:38,160 Speaker 1: part of that feeling like you had to go on 612 00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:39,440 Speaker 1: every game knowing. 613 00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:43,400 Speaker 3: It felt good because you know how this is coming 614 00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:45,160 Speaker 3: from where we come from. When they beat us up, 615 00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:47,760 Speaker 3: beat us up, beat us up, beat us up, and 616 00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:51,040 Speaker 3: then we started knocking people out. So let's just say 617 00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:53,040 Speaker 3: we knocked somebody out and they still don't respect you. 618 00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:55,640 Speaker 3: Soon as I got the first championship, I was done. 619 00:29:56,760 --> 00:30:01,960 Speaker 3: I was thinking about, Hey, I'm done money, let me 620 00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:04,360 Speaker 3: invest in the team, let me do something else. I 621 00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:06,720 Speaker 3: get home with the baby with Sharif and all them 622 00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:10,360 Speaker 3: and were watching ESPN and they disrespect me. Oh they 623 00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:12,800 Speaker 3: got a champiship. Can they do it again? Or they 624 00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:14,760 Speaker 3: a dynasty and not a downing stair? So now I'm 625 00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:16,920 Speaker 3: mad going to the summer. I let me go and 626 00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:22,440 Speaker 3: get one more, one more same thing. Oh well, Magic 627 00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:25,800 Speaker 3: and Kareem, that's still the best, dude got repeat. I'm 628 00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:30,080 Speaker 3: like so me gonna do it again. And then we 629 00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:32,800 Speaker 3: lost one year and then I called in call and 630 00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:35,240 Speaker 3: Gary created that super team and we made to the 631 00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:38,240 Speaker 3: finals and then we didn't win. So and then so 632 00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:40,160 Speaker 3: at three, I was like, you know what, I'm good. 633 00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:43,680 Speaker 3: I'm going just play my career out. And then they 634 00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:49,000 Speaker 3: disrespect me again, they trade me. So I go in 635 00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:52,360 Speaker 3: the office and I flex my power again. I said, okay, 636 00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:54,680 Speaker 3: you want to trade me, but I'm going to Miami. 637 00:30:56,040 --> 00:30:58,120 Speaker 3: Now we want no, no, no, I ain't gonna work 638 00:30:58,200 --> 00:31:01,360 Speaker 3: like that. I'm going to Miami. In to Miami. I 639 00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:04,120 Speaker 3: don't worry about it. You can trade me. It's done. 640 00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:06,200 Speaker 3: It's his team, y'all can have it. I appreciate you, 641 00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:09,640 Speaker 3: love ya. Boom boom bo. I'm going to Miami because 642 00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:11,480 Speaker 3: I saw something in d Wade. I saw like a 643 00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:14,800 Speaker 3: mixture of Penny and Kobe. But he ain't had no 644 00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:17,400 Speaker 3: help with him. So you get me down there with 645 00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:19,680 Speaker 3: him getting double triple team and that's gonna open it 646 00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:22,360 Speaker 3: up for him. But that was my vision. And then, uh, 647 00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:25,560 Speaker 3: you know, I called up a few of the homies, 648 00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:30,160 Speaker 3: A Poles, I need you, gp Antoine, what's up dog? That? Yeah, 649 00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:31,800 Speaker 3: that they disrespect me. So it was a bunch of 650 00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:35,280 Speaker 3: a bunch of old has beens that we had put 651 00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:37,600 Speaker 3: together and that was that was good. And then after 652 00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:39,720 Speaker 3: I got the fourth point again, oh Kobe got four. 653 00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:42,680 Speaker 3: Oh Kobe got five. So I met My last couple 654 00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:44,640 Speaker 3: of years, I was ring chasing just to get five. 655 00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:47,320 Speaker 3: But then when I had that career and the injury, 656 00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:49,360 Speaker 3: I was like, it's it's over for me because I 657 00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:51,960 Speaker 3: didn't feel right averaging eight nine points. That ain't mean 658 00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:54,120 Speaker 3: like I have to give it up to Dwight. He's 659 00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:56,000 Speaker 3: really playing good, but I can't do that. I can't 660 00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:59,280 Speaker 3: be averaging those six sething points. And the situation with 661 00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:02,480 Speaker 3: a penny and the situation with Kobe. Did they prepare 662 00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:05,960 Speaker 3: you for the situation with the WAD? I was tired 663 00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:09,800 Speaker 3: of it. Yeah, So when I when I got to Miami, 664 00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:12,560 Speaker 3: I just gave it up. So it's your team though 665 00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:18,040 Speaker 3: it's your team, your team on the Big Advisor, I'm 666 00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:20,800 Speaker 3: following you. Just you just get tired of it because 667 00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:23,880 Speaker 3: you realize that in the long run, it's a useless title. 668 00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:28,200 Speaker 3: It's your team. What does that mean? Right? You the man? 669 00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:32,520 Speaker 3: What does that mean? Ego don't mean nothing? Right, don't 670 00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:35,400 Speaker 3: mean nothing. So I was like, hey, man, so I 671 00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:37,959 Speaker 3: told them problems happened with me and Penny. Problem never 672 00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:40,160 Speaker 3: mean code said that's could never happen with me and you. 673 00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:45,280 Speaker 3: It's your shit. I'm gonna sit back speaking on speaking 674 00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:46,560 Speaker 3: on them three guys. Right. 675 00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:49,360 Speaker 1: I had a thing I was thinking about it yesterday 676 00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:51,440 Speaker 1: and I'm like, yo, I gotta ask you so we 677 00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:54,560 Speaker 1: do start bench cut? Right, So don't you tell me 678 00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:58,880 Speaker 1: who you start bench cut between these three duos, You 679 00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:03,600 Speaker 1: and Penny, You and cod or you and d Wade 680 00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:05,680 Speaker 1: start bench cut. 681 00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:07,200 Speaker 3: I know what I would do, but I just want 682 00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:09,320 Speaker 3: to hear from the man himself that was that was? 683 00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:12,560 Speaker 3: That was there? You know how Cameron say you wasn't there? 684 00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:17,160 Speaker 3: You was there? I think Penny would understand this just 685 00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:21,000 Speaker 3: looking at winds and rings. So I got three with Kobe, 686 00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:24,880 Speaker 3: so you gotta start him. I got one with d Wade. 687 00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:27,760 Speaker 3: He coming up the bench. Me and Penny had the 688 00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:29,959 Speaker 3: opportunity to get one, but we couldn't get it one. 689 00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:33,400 Speaker 3: So I gotta cut Penny. There's no disrespect to neither 690 00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:35,680 Speaker 3: one of those guys, because I love playing with all 691 00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:38,400 Speaker 3: those guys. But to answer this little silly game that 692 00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:41,040 Speaker 3: you'll put me into I know, gonna go viral. I 693 00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:42,680 Speaker 3: just want to let you know a penny. I'm not 694 00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:45,480 Speaker 3: disrespecting you. I'm just playing the game. But based on 695 00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:48,760 Speaker 3: that championship winning criteria, it has to be like that. 696 00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:54,920 Speaker 3: So do you feel like Magic is the best Laker ever? Know? 697 00:33:55,080 --> 00:34:01,360 Speaker 3: They they say Kobe is. I mean, like, you know, 698 00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:07,160 Speaker 3: it has to be twenty years all the records again, 699 00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:09,239 Speaker 3: like you have to you have to base it on 700 00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:13,560 Speaker 3: what you're looking at now. Magic is probably the nicest 701 00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:16,520 Speaker 3: Laker besides me. But when it comes to the overall 702 00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:21,040 Speaker 3: love and overall uh, you know, great stuff has been done. 703 00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:23,160 Speaker 3: Like Kobe has a lot of game winners, a lot 704 00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:26,320 Speaker 3: of moments, so probably him. I feel like you have 705 00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:28,640 Speaker 3: no I never wanted to be the best. That's what 706 00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:30,560 Speaker 3: y'all don't understand about me. You don't want to be 707 00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:33,760 Speaker 3: the best. But I like and y'all want the best 708 00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:37,359 Speaker 3: duos ever to be created. One of the best, one 709 00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:41,280 Speaker 3: of the best, the best, most enigmatic duo ever created, 710 00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:43,560 Speaker 3: big big Little, Because there's a lot of duos, but 711 00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:49,400 Speaker 3: big Little that's the big little best. I definitely agree 712 00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:51,920 Speaker 3: with that, But people don't need to understand by my gay. 713 00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:53,880 Speaker 3: I don't want to be the best. That's that's not 714 00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:55,759 Speaker 3: That's not what I want to do. I want to 715 00:34:56,000 --> 00:35:00,640 Speaker 3: intimidate you, make you quit, elbow your They should draw 716 00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:04,360 Speaker 3: blood and win championships. I'm trying to like, being the 717 00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:06,200 Speaker 3: best is too much work. I do what I have 718 00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:07,759 Speaker 3: to do to get the job done. You see what 719 00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:09,880 Speaker 3: I'm saying, Like, for example, if I gotta wash all 720 00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:12,399 Speaker 3: these windows, I know the boss coming in, he gonna 721 00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:14,719 Speaker 3: look at the bottom roll. He ain't looking at the top. 722 00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:17,080 Speaker 3: I ain't watching the top. I may I may spin 723 00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:19,080 Speaker 3: on that right, I ain't washing it dope, and I'm 724 00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:20,160 Speaker 3: gonna watch it ones right there. 725 00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:23,160 Speaker 1: But just what you just say is well, I often 726 00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:26,080 Speaker 1: referred like people could say whatever best. I'll refer to 727 00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:28,320 Speaker 1: you as the most dominant when I do my my 728 00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:30,040 Speaker 1: favorite five in the NBA. 729 00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:31,399 Speaker 3: You to five every time. 730 00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:33,840 Speaker 1: Because it's no like you said, it's no disrespect to 731 00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:36,360 Speaker 1: Bill Russell to will appreciate it. 732 00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:38,960 Speaker 3: But I just feel like I played against you in 733 00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:40,520 Speaker 3: your prime and knew how strong you. 734 00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:42,839 Speaker 1: I feel like I don't give a damn what none 735 00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:45,600 Speaker 1: of them was doing when you turned and put that 736 00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:46,759 Speaker 1: thing on him. 737 00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:49,040 Speaker 3: It ain't nothing they could do and everybody gonna break 738 00:35:49,239 --> 00:35:51,880 Speaker 3: or fall at that wheel at anchor. 739 00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:54,000 Speaker 1: It's a round. It ain't no human being that could 740 00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:55,880 Speaker 1: do nothing with that. I don't care about Wilding his 741 00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:58,160 Speaker 1: prime he was playing against. I felt like Milkman. 742 00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:01,359 Speaker 2: I felt she was doing most dominant player I've ever 743 00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:04,479 Speaker 2: seen in basketball history, like I never seen. I don't 744 00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:06,600 Speaker 2: watch this game a long time, and I didn't seen 745 00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:10,040 Speaker 2: a lot of players, but you was just like you 746 00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:12,440 Speaker 2: was different. And I argue with my friends all the 747 00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:14,160 Speaker 2: time and I'd be like, yeah, I know a team. 748 00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:16,160 Speaker 2: A lot of people say a team had a better 749 00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:18,280 Speaker 2: series than you when you played them in the finals 750 00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:18,759 Speaker 2: early then. 751 00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:21,360 Speaker 3: But I was like that that Chem. 752 00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:24,800 Speaker 2: Elijah, why Gordon, the Lakers Shack. It's two different players, 753 00:36:26,080 --> 00:36:28,840 Speaker 2: And I was like the Lakers Shack was so fucking dominant. 754 00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:31,839 Speaker 2: It was like once you get your whole team get 755 00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:35,320 Speaker 2: beat up by you. If we happened to be close, 756 00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:39,200 Speaker 2: Kobe Hall ended for us, it was like, it's crazy, 757 00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:42,680 Speaker 2: like for you always my favorite center, I appreciate center 758 00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:46,160 Speaker 2: ever ever seen, and just dominant at your attitude because 759 00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:48,880 Speaker 2: you were so good off the court personality wise, like 760 00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:51,920 Speaker 2: you showed so much love to guys like we was clippers, like. 761 00:36:52,040 --> 00:36:55,320 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, and we won the most 762 00:36:55,719 --> 00:36:57,520 Speaker 3: popular or nothing like that. When we got in. 763 00:36:57,640 --> 00:36:59,439 Speaker 2: As soon as we met you, you showed us love, 764 00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:03,920 Speaker 2: but you were so vicious when it came to between 765 00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:06,920 Speaker 2: the lines, like how can you switch that up? 766 00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:14,160 Speaker 3: Family? They give it his money away and I'm going 767 00:37:14,239 --> 00:37:19,120 Speaker 3: to get it. I can't. I can't do resumes. I 768 00:37:19,239 --> 00:37:21,959 Speaker 3: can't do like all your whole staff do, and I ain't. 769 00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:23,839 Speaker 3: I'm not that serious of a guy. I like joking 770 00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:26,719 Speaker 3: around doing what I do. So when I came in, 771 00:37:26,840 --> 00:37:29,719 Speaker 3: I was like, okay, because believe me, I wanted to 772 00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:32,680 Speaker 3: be guardnet. I got all ya ya, y'all see me 773 00:37:32,719 --> 00:37:34,400 Speaker 3: take a calt. I got all that. I wanted to 774 00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:36,440 Speaker 3: fade off and shoot three. I want to do all that. 775 00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:38,600 Speaker 3: But when I'm playing Patrick Ewan, I go like this, 776 00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:44,239 Speaker 3: and he moved, Oh we have something here, Robinson, I 777 00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:47,600 Speaker 3: do that and they fly like, oh okay, uh huh. 778 00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:50,680 Speaker 3: They don't like that, funk like let me, let me 779 00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:53,440 Speaker 3: let me establish this, let me just let me do this. 780 00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:57,520 Speaker 3: And but look, I wanted to fade away and cross 781 00:37:57,560 --> 00:37:59,600 Speaker 3: people up, and matter of fact, I crossed your boy, 782 00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:03,360 Speaker 3: at once. H Yeah, I remember that game. Yeah, I 783 00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:07,400 Speaker 3: got that cross, Like I wanted to do that the 784 00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:10,880 Speaker 3: whole game. But that was my niche just to you know, 785 00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:14,120 Speaker 3: beat beat people up. And I wasn't trying to be 786 00:38:14,200 --> 00:38:15,359 Speaker 3: the best. I was just trying to win. 787 00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:19,600 Speaker 2: When we when we first got to Clippers, they showed 788 00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:22,160 Speaker 2: us this tape the year before. I think you had 789 00:38:22,239 --> 00:38:25,200 Speaker 2: like six on your birthday. Yes, birthday, your birthday and 790 00:38:26,239 --> 00:38:28,719 Speaker 2: all that stuff. So when we looking at the game, 791 00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:32,000 Speaker 2: we like we're playing Lakers this year, We're like, oh, ship, 792 00:38:32,120 --> 00:38:35,000 Speaker 2: this fucker just he' shoot no threes, you know. 793 00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:38,640 Speaker 3: So I get there and I said, hey, man, I 794 00:38:38,680 --> 00:38:42,400 Speaker 3: need ten tickets. Oh you got to pay because it 795 00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:45,239 Speaker 3: was the Clippers home games. Man, it's my fucking empty man. 796 00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:48,920 Speaker 3: I said, all, no problem. They tried me like ten stacks, 797 00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:51,239 Speaker 3: but man, I was so mad. I told Cob and 798 00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:53,640 Speaker 3: I said, ain't nobody shoot with me. And then another 799 00:38:53,719 --> 00:38:55,120 Speaker 3: thing that maybe a lot of people don't know that 800 00:38:55,160 --> 00:38:58,359 Speaker 3: is Kareem was your assistant coach. Every time I touched 801 00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:01,479 Speaker 3: the ball, he put his head down. Because I remember 802 00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:03,520 Speaker 3: one time I got the ball, I'm like, oh shit, 803 00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:05,160 Speaker 3: Kareem looking at me. I'm about to hit him with 804 00:39:05,239 --> 00:39:06,920 Speaker 3: the sky looking point at him, let him know and 805 00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:09,200 Speaker 3: love him. My fucker put his head downe though, like 806 00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:11,719 Speaker 3: just the whole time. So I did a little jump 807 00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:14,000 Speaker 3: hug so you know, got the remind look every time 808 00:39:14,040 --> 00:39:15,400 Speaker 3: I was down there, he put his head down. So 809 00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:18,560 Speaker 3: I was like, oh, Kareem don't know my name. I 810 00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:20,360 Speaker 3: don't know my name, but he gonna know it tonight. 811 00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:23,680 Speaker 3: So like I'm I'm a real sensitive guy. But again, 812 00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:25,800 Speaker 3: I don't get mad. I just get even because whenever 813 00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:27,840 Speaker 3: you say I can't do something, I'm gonna just go 814 00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:30,600 Speaker 3: to it. Yeah, So do I want to ask you this? 815 00:39:30,719 --> 00:39:34,520 Speaker 3: Do you remember pulling you over? Not pulling that too? 816 00:39:34,719 --> 00:39:38,080 Speaker 3: But New Year's Eve, we came to your crib. 817 00:39:38,560 --> 00:39:42,319 Speaker 1: He eighteen, I'm nineteen, and I don't even remember how 818 00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:43,480 Speaker 1: we even bumped into you. 819 00:39:43,640 --> 00:39:45,719 Speaker 3: But then like like you take the crib. He was 820 00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:47,640 Speaker 3: showing a lot like huh we go to the crib. 821 00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:51,600 Speaker 1: Were like, oh, yeah, sat crib like school, Yeah, miss 822 00:39:51,640 --> 00:39:55,120 Speaker 1: school is there. I'll never forget you had a pocket 823 00:39:55,160 --> 00:39:56,280 Speaker 1: full of money, your homeboy. 824 00:39:56,320 --> 00:39:57,120 Speaker 3: We was all in there. 825 00:39:57,239 --> 00:40:00,200 Speaker 1: Like first of all, you had freaking movies. It was 826 00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:05,719 Speaker 1: like priving homemade movie you made your bro and you 827 00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:10,320 Speaker 1: slipped it with ninjas and stuff. Now you had what 828 00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:14,600 Speaker 1: you literally like the whole personal like movie. So whatever, 829 00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:17,799 Speaker 1: we're watching that. But your one of your homeboys, Uh, 830 00:40:18,400 --> 00:40:20,799 Speaker 1: I can't remember his name, Spanish dude you beat him. 831 00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:23,520 Speaker 1: Had a bottle of Frank brand new bottle with a 832 00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:24,280 Speaker 1: orange assay. 833 00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:26,200 Speaker 3: I bet you can't drink that all that right? 834 00:40:26,360 --> 00:40:30,560 Speaker 1: The man turned that thing upside down and didn't stop 835 00:40:30,680 --> 00:40:32,520 Speaker 1: till he was done, and you gave him the money. 836 00:40:33,120 --> 00:40:35,920 Speaker 3: About fifteen minutes later. He was faded, but he was 837 00:40:36,040 --> 00:40:37,040 Speaker 3: he was live. 838 00:40:37,200 --> 00:40:39,600 Speaker 1: He did it, and I was like, I can't believe this, 839 00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:43,319 Speaker 1: but I was like I always remember, like like he said, 840 00:40:43,360 --> 00:40:45,160 Speaker 1: you showed us major love and for us, like we 841 00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:48,240 Speaker 1: like we're eighteen nineteen, like man, we hanging with Shaq, 842 00:40:48,400 --> 00:40:50,120 Speaker 1: like bro, I can't we trying to call all our 843 00:40:50,200 --> 00:40:52,879 Speaker 1: homeboys and old found like we with him like he talking, 844 00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:55,440 Speaker 1: he called us our name and stuff like Cause. 845 00:40:55,280 --> 00:40:58,839 Speaker 3: What understand is that y'all were me and I see 846 00:40:58,840 --> 00:41:01,120 Speaker 3: a lot of big time casts that don't show my love. 847 00:41:01,160 --> 00:41:03,319 Speaker 3: I never wanted to be like that. But we're all 848 00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:06,800 Speaker 3: from the hood. We all got brothers, we all got cousins. 849 00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:08,680 Speaker 3: We all them scenes and ship we ain't supposed to 850 00:41:08,719 --> 00:41:12,040 Speaker 3: see at that age, right, So I ain't want to 851 00:41:12,080 --> 00:41:14,040 Speaker 3: be that guy. So whenever I saw y'all, I just 852 00:41:14,080 --> 00:41:17,080 Speaker 3: always have to show y'all because one I like how 853 00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:19,720 Speaker 3: y'all played like y'all always played like y'all wasn't scared, 854 00:41:19,719 --> 00:41:22,319 Speaker 3: which I really like, you know, respect that, like y'all 855 00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:24,239 Speaker 3: weren't gonna stop old boy, but he wasn't gonna stop 856 00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:26,160 Speaker 3: y'all either, And that's what and that's why every time 857 00:41:26,200 --> 00:41:29,360 Speaker 3: play against they're like, yo, man, go to work messing up, 858 00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:31,879 Speaker 3: burn it up, coach, want me to double I ain't 859 00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:33,040 Speaker 3: double kill his act. 860 00:41:33,719 --> 00:41:36,480 Speaker 2: Go at them so like you always say like too, 861 00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:39,080 Speaker 2: like I never wanted to be the asshole, Like you 862 00:41:39,160 --> 00:41:41,360 Speaker 2: look up to somebody and you finally get the opportunity 863 00:41:41,360 --> 00:41:42,000 Speaker 2: to meet the person. 864 00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:46,520 Speaker 3: I'm not like that. I can't ever do that to y'all. 865 00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:50,000 Speaker 1: I gotta give you because to a man, not just us, 866 00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:53,520 Speaker 1: but damn that everybody we meet when we talk about you, 867 00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:57,200 Speaker 1: like you definitely are that that picture of like man, 868 00:41:57,800 --> 00:41:59,880 Speaker 1: when Mars meet you, it's the way you wanted to be. 869 00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:01,640 Speaker 1: You don't want it to be like this dude, the 870 00:42:01,719 --> 00:42:04,600 Speaker 1: asshole in here a second. But you know what I'm saying, 871 00:42:04,719 --> 00:42:07,760 Speaker 1: like big fella, show love to everybody, and it's always 872 00:42:07,880 --> 00:42:10,279 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying reciprocated because everybody we talked to, 873 00:42:10,360 --> 00:42:12,320 Speaker 1: it's like, man, everybody got a story and that's what 874 00:42:12,520 --> 00:42:14,360 Speaker 1: you wanted to be Like that, like d saying, like 875 00:42:14,440 --> 00:42:16,120 Speaker 1: we I try and go out of my way to 876 00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:18,160 Speaker 1: be cool with everybody all the time. Clearly we ain't 877 00:42:18,200 --> 00:42:21,160 Speaker 1: on the level nowhere near with you, but like everybody 878 00:42:21,239 --> 00:42:23,480 Speaker 1: we talked to, like got a dope story about when 879 00:42:23,480 --> 00:42:25,399 Speaker 1: they first met Scheck and it ain't no weak shit, 880 00:42:25,520 --> 00:42:26,680 Speaker 1: and you don't never want it to be that. 881 00:42:26,840 --> 00:42:29,359 Speaker 3: So that's a big salute right for right right now. 882 00:42:29,440 --> 00:42:32,279 Speaker 3: I know you sa drinker job with cameras on a 883 00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:36,320 Speaker 3: role model. I know that Chuck, he's a role model. 884 00:42:36,680 --> 00:42:39,319 Speaker 2: You seen with us, Like you remember the time where 885 00:42:39,520 --> 00:42:42,200 Speaker 2: did nobody were clip of jerseys? Woin't nobody even going 886 00:42:42,280 --> 00:42:44,880 Speaker 2: to the games, And uh, we got the opportunity to 887 00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:47,359 Speaker 2: get drafted there and we created a little buzz even 888 00:42:47,360 --> 00:42:50,799 Speaker 2: though y'all was winning every championship back to back to back. 889 00:42:51,280 --> 00:42:53,520 Speaker 2: To see the Clippers where they're at now, for players 890 00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:55,560 Speaker 2: to really want to go there and trying to change 891 00:42:55,600 --> 00:42:57,839 Speaker 2: the coach and just bring a second team to La, 892 00:42:58,080 --> 00:43:00,160 Speaker 2: Like what do you think about from the time we 893 00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:03,160 Speaker 2: kind of got there that now you actually see kids 894 00:43:03,280 --> 00:43:05,799 Speaker 2: and players with Clipper. 895 00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:09,440 Speaker 3: It's actually interesting to hear them start to change the conversation. 896 00:43:10,120 --> 00:43:12,200 Speaker 3: Like you hear people say, now if the Clippers win, 897 00:43:12,840 --> 00:43:15,279 Speaker 3: it'll be a Clipper time. Me and him fight over 898 00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:17,240 Speaker 3: that all the time. My boy is he like the Lakers. 899 00:43:17,800 --> 00:43:20,279 Speaker 3: So it just means that you guys have a super 900 00:43:20,400 --> 00:43:24,080 Speaker 3: respectable team because y'all were making noise. Y'all making noise 901 00:43:24,160 --> 00:43:25,880 Speaker 3: to the point to where if we didn't pay attention, 902 00:43:25,960 --> 00:43:29,160 Speaker 3: y'all beat us. And we couldn't have that. So that 903 00:43:29,280 --> 00:43:32,440 Speaker 3: was the super Bowl every year. Like a lot of teams, 904 00:43:32,719 --> 00:43:35,160 Speaker 3: men we played, you go to work. But like I 905 00:43:35,280 --> 00:43:37,080 Speaker 3: had to, like, listen, man, we can't lose to the 906 00:43:37,120 --> 00:43:43,120 Speaker 3: Clippers ever. So but now now y'all, y'all, y'all really 907 00:43:43,160 --> 00:43:45,080 Speaker 3: have a chance to you know, make it. And then 908 00:43:45,160 --> 00:43:47,080 Speaker 3: Doc came in put his foot down. When it's a 909 00:43:47,160 --> 00:43:54,680 Speaker 3: home game, I'm telling him, and the whole always look 910 00:43:54,760 --> 00:43:58,719 Speaker 3: at like this ain't our home damn game, y'all got 911 00:43:58,800 --> 00:44:04,480 Speaker 3: pictures in all way one year child, we celebrate, we 912 00:44:04,600 --> 00:44:08,520 Speaker 3: did each other. You drinking stopping? We wont know you 913 00:44:08,680 --> 00:44:09,400 Speaker 3: want to stop it. 914 00:44:09,560 --> 00:44:15,399 Speaker 4: Baghetti had a good game, had first Yeah he had 915 00:44:15,520 --> 00:44:18,960 Speaker 4: had on y'all. Yeah it was on y'all own court. 916 00:44:19,080 --> 00:44:20,880 Speaker 4: Wasn't stopping? 917 00:44:21,320 --> 00:44:30,000 Speaker 3: Guess who? Hell no trying check that for me if 918 00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:31,439 Speaker 3: they ever been. I want, I want. 919 00:44:31,520 --> 00:44:34,400 Speaker 1: I won't talk to you about about your son, Sharif 920 00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:37,719 Speaker 1: right because as a parent, you know, we we all 921 00:44:37,800 --> 00:44:40,000 Speaker 1: got kids and stuff. My kids aren't as old, but 922 00:44:40,160 --> 00:44:43,400 Speaker 1: you know we all wish that our kids play basketball. 923 00:44:42,840 --> 00:44:44,759 Speaker 3: And go you know, be like us. Dude, we did 924 00:44:44,840 --> 00:44:45,839 Speaker 3: and can make it to the NBA. 925 00:44:46,360 --> 00:44:47,880 Speaker 1: For you to have a son, that's you know what 926 00:44:47,880 --> 00:44:50,759 Speaker 1: I'm saying, as good as your son as like, how 927 00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:54,040 Speaker 1: is it to be you to to you know what 928 00:44:54,040 --> 00:44:56,120 Speaker 1: I'm saying, be able to go to games and support 929 00:44:56,200 --> 00:44:58,279 Speaker 1: your son and then have them, you know, deal with 930 00:44:58,280 --> 00:45:00,759 Speaker 1: what he's dealt with at such a young going through 931 00:45:00,800 --> 00:45:04,520 Speaker 1: the heart surgery and now you know, leaving U c 932 00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:06,080 Speaker 1: l A and doing his thing. 933 00:45:06,160 --> 00:45:08,239 Speaker 3: How is it for you to support that and to 934 00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:10,319 Speaker 3: watch him go on his journey? So I tell all 935 00:45:10,360 --> 00:45:13,840 Speaker 3: my kids all the time, six of them, so we 936 00:45:13,880 --> 00:45:16,880 Speaker 3: don't need another basketball player. I like to have a surgeon, 937 00:45:18,160 --> 00:45:23,400 Speaker 3: business woman the next opera, you know, fashion line or whatever. 938 00:45:23,680 --> 00:45:25,719 Speaker 3: So I don't put pressure on them to play basketball. 939 00:45:26,200 --> 00:45:27,920 Speaker 3: Rule in my house is you have to have two 940 00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:30,480 Speaker 3: degrees to touch some of my cheese. So I don't 941 00:45:30,520 --> 00:45:33,560 Speaker 3: put pressure on so when I was raising, so when 942 00:45:33,600 --> 00:45:35,560 Speaker 3: I was raised for the people in the bank, you 943 00:45:35,640 --> 00:45:37,680 Speaker 3: gotta have two degrees to touch some of my cheese. 944 00:45:38,239 --> 00:45:41,520 Speaker 3: So my my wife, I don't believe in ex wife. 945 00:45:41,600 --> 00:45:44,880 Speaker 3: She stilled my wife. My wife is pretty tall, so 946 00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:47,399 Speaker 3: I figured the baby was gonna be about six'. Nine 947 00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:51,920 Speaker 3: so Now i'm Trading sharif And shakira like my favorite 948 00:45:51,920 --> 00:45:55,719 Speaker 3: players at the, Time kobe. T mac grant, here so 949 00:45:55,840 --> 00:45:58,600 Speaker 3: they really. Guards i'm, LIKE i ain't we ain't doing 950 00:45:58,680 --> 00:46:02,600 Speaker 3: no drop Step Steve. Smith i'm teaching them all, that, 951 00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:06,000 Speaker 3: right and then, hey go over there with your, uncle Uncle, 952 00:46:06,080 --> 00:46:07,640 Speaker 3: quintin he gonna teach. Them go over there with your 953 00:46:07,719 --> 00:46:09,960 Speaker 3: uncle t mc dingo teach. Them so they got a 954 00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:12,279 Speaker 3: lot of nodge from a lot of. People now they 955 00:46:14,160 --> 00:46:16,080 Speaker 3: but they have the guard to, building which is good 956 00:46:16,160 --> 00:46:19,320 Speaker 3: because in this, era big guys ain't buzzing. Anyway So 957 00:46:20,520 --> 00:46:23,600 Speaker 3: sharif and you. Care they. WORK i don't have to 958 00:46:23,640 --> 00:46:25,920 Speaker 3: mess with. THEM i don't have to yell at. Them they. 959 00:46:26,040 --> 00:46:28,799 Speaker 3: Work and the most important, THING i, said you ain't 960 00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:31,120 Speaker 3: gonna bet. ME i don't want you to beat. Me be. 961 00:46:31,280 --> 00:46:34,879 Speaker 3: Yourself despite what they, say what everything, that don't beat. 962 00:46:34,960 --> 00:46:37,520 Speaker 3: Me because this is a true. STORY i have forty. 963 00:46:37,600 --> 00:46:40,800 Speaker 3: Five one time in high, school three quarters, left playing 964 00:46:40,800 --> 00:46:43,320 Speaker 3: against some little. Guys i'm supposed to be. Dunking i'm not. 965 00:46:43,440 --> 00:46:45,680 Speaker 3: DUNCAN i don't want. TO i want. TO i SAW 966 00:46:45,719 --> 00:46:49,359 Speaker 3: i lay it, up finger roll and miss my dad 967 00:46:49,600 --> 00:46:52,680 Speaker 3: walking the court in the. Drill, SERGEANT i, Said, yo, 968 00:46:52,760 --> 00:46:54,880 Speaker 3: man call the time. Out call the time. OUT i go. 969 00:46:54,960 --> 00:46:58,799 Speaker 3: Outside he, said yo, man what you? DOING i, Said, 970 00:46:58,840 --> 00:47:00,759 Speaker 3: man you Know i'm working on my TO j magic. 971 00:47:00,840 --> 00:47:05,440 Speaker 3: Ship wow smack. Me, nah ain't no magic DOCTOR. J 972 00:47:05,640 --> 00:47:08,839 Speaker 3: you shack be. Shocked and that's, when and that's why 973 00:47:08,880 --> 00:47:10,560 Speaker 3: every TIME i, DUNK i try to rip the room, 974 00:47:10,640 --> 00:47:12,560 Speaker 3: off because it was BECAUSE i was mad at him 975 00:47:12,719 --> 00:47:15,160 Speaker 3: like he did, yeah like every. Time so so WHEN i, 976 00:47:15,280 --> 00:47:17,440 Speaker 3: dunk WHEN i started dunk like that and everybody started doing, 977 00:47:17,480 --> 00:47:19,839 Speaker 3: THAT i was, Like, oh we have something. Here whom boom. 978 00:47:19,880 --> 00:47:21,480 Speaker 3: Boom they don't like. That they don't like WHEN i. 979 00:47:21,560 --> 00:47:24,120 Speaker 3: Bump SO i tell my babies all the, Time, look, 980 00:47:24,200 --> 00:47:27,000 Speaker 3: man you ain't gonta be like. Me be, yourself make 981 00:47:27,040 --> 00:47:28,879 Speaker 3: a name for. Yourself so when you had the heart, 982 00:47:28,920 --> 00:47:32,480 Speaker 3: surgery it was. Tough but BEFORE i had a conversation with, 983 00:47:32,640 --> 00:47:35,080 Speaker 3: HIM i had to do my own. Research so it 984 00:47:35,160 --> 00:47:37,359 Speaker 3: was three doctors that could fix, it and one had 985 00:47:37,400 --> 00:47:40,480 Speaker 3: a damn near perfect, Record. Stanford SO i met with, 986 00:47:40,600 --> 00:47:44,760 Speaker 3: him say, hey, man what's. Happening and he was smooth 987 00:47:44,920 --> 00:47:46,719 Speaker 3: white guy From. Balls he's, Like, SHACK i got. YOU 988 00:47:46,760 --> 00:47:48,839 Speaker 3: i do ain't worry about. It i'm The Larry bird 989 00:47:48,880 --> 00:47:51,480 Speaker 3: of these. Surgeries so like he, like you know what to. 990 00:47:51,560 --> 00:47:53,920 Speaker 3: Say he's, Like i'm, Good i'm not. Here don't even 991 00:47:53,960 --> 00:47:56,200 Speaker 3: worry about. It so But I'm i'm messing with what 992 00:47:56,239 --> 00:47:58,719 Speaker 3: about this? Guy? Now, man that's the old way about. 993 00:47:58,719 --> 00:48:01,200 Speaker 3: It we're Not, SHACK i got. You it's on the. 994 00:48:01,239 --> 00:48:04,799 Speaker 3: Surgery so but you know my son on social, media 995 00:48:04,840 --> 00:48:06,600 Speaker 3: you know how kids that read that like people tell, 996 00:48:06,680 --> 00:48:08,000 Speaker 3: them oh you ain't gonna make, It you're gonna make. 997 00:48:08,040 --> 00:48:10,160 Speaker 3: It so right before he go, in he was kind of. 998 00:48:10,239 --> 00:48:13,240 Speaker 3: Nervous SO i had to tell him like a little homeboy. 999 00:48:13,320 --> 00:48:15,640 Speaker 3: STORY i, said, hey, man you about to go in. 1000 00:48:15,719 --> 00:48:19,000 Speaker 3: There it's this nurse named. Anesthesia she fine in the. 1001 00:48:19,120 --> 00:48:22,120 Speaker 3: Moment she always said what to? ME i, said she? 1002 00:48:22,280 --> 00:48:25,480 Speaker 3: Cold she. Cold so, after you, know we got over, 1003 00:48:25,560 --> 00:48:26,960 Speaker 3: that AND i, said when you wake, up i'mna be 1004 00:48:26,960 --> 00:48:29,040 Speaker 3: the first one. THERE i don't worry about. Him so 1005 00:48:29,120 --> 00:48:30,640 Speaker 3: when he woke, up me and his mama was just. 1006 00:48:30,760 --> 00:48:33,279 Speaker 3: SO i, said see now the ship's. Over now we 1007 00:48:33,320 --> 00:48:35,480 Speaker 3: don't think about. It now you take your little three 1008 00:48:35,520 --> 00:48:37,480 Speaker 3: months off and then we get back to. Work so he's, 1009 00:48:37,520 --> 00:48:38,239 Speaker 3: working you're. 1010 00:48:38,280 --> 00:48:41,000 Speaker 1: WORKING i won't know about the first time you speaking On, 1011 00:48:41,200 --> 00:48:43,480 Speaker 1: like when's the first time you broke a, rim like 1012 00:48:43,800 --> 00:48:46,960 Speaker 1: just completely dismantled something that was a real structure and not. 1013 00:48:47,080 --> 00:48:49,000 Speaker 3: Like, her you, know the same day my father the same. 1014 00:48:49,080 --> 00:48:52,280 Speaker 3: Day my father smacked me that. Day, yeah you remember 1015 00:48:52,280 --> 00:48:54,080 Speaker 3: in high, school they didn't have him break. Away that's 1016 00:48:54,120 --> 00:48:54,359 Speaker 3: What i'm. 1017 00:48:54,400 --> 00:48:59,840 Speaker 1: Saying you pretty much read reconfigured the whole basketball structures to. 1018 00:49:00,000 --> 00:49:02,839 Speaker 3: Situation you made him rethink. It and then my dad 1019 00:49:02,960 --> 00:49:05,200 Speaker 3: was sort of like. Me so after he punched, me 1020 00:49:06,080 --> 00:49:08,200 Speaker 3: AND i ain't, crying BUT i got tear in. MINE 1021 00:49:08,239 --> 00:49:09,600 Speaker 3: i break the rum AND i look at. Him he 1022 00:49:09,640 --> 00:49:13,000 Speaker 3: don't smile or, nothing so everything he just look at 1023 00:49:13,040 --> 00:49:15,960 Speaker 3: me like, yeah like, yeah like he sposed to. That 1024 00:49:16,040 --> 00:49:18,759 Speaker 3: so the next, Game i'm, like, okay you're like, that 1025 00:49:18,960 --> 00:49:22,640 Speaker 3: what about this? One on this? One like he first 1026 00:49:22,680 --> 00:49:24,359 Speaker 3: time he told me good game was after my first 1027 00:49:24,400 --> 00:49:28,560 Speaker 3: championship mm. Hmm because he was he loved the. Game 1028 00:49:29,120 --> 00:49:32,239 Speaker 3: he wanted. Perfection so IF i had fifty, points he'd be, 1029 00:49:32,280 --> 00:49:34,200 Speaker 3: like you should have had, sixty missed ten free. THROWS 1030 00:49:35,400 --> 00:49:36,000 Speaker 3: i don't want to hear. 1031 00:49:36,040 --> 00:49:36,080 Speaker 2: That. 1032 00:49:36,160 --> 00:49:38,399 Speaker 1: SHIP i, mean that's WHAT i look at that WHEN 1033 00:49:38,440 --> 00:49:40,600 Speaker 1: i look WHEN i look at BIG i look WHEN 1034 00:49:40,640 --> 00:49:41,200 Speaker 1: i look at big. 1035 00:49:41,320 --> 00:49:44,080 Speaker 3: Dudes WHEN i was coming, through you was the. 1036 00:49:44,160 --> 00:49:47,279 Speaker 1: BAR i always knew how it felt WHEN i WHEN 1037 00:49:47,320 --> 00:49:49,320 Speaker 1: i come down and try and double or swipe it 1038 00:49:49,360 --> 00:49:51,399 Speaker 1: the ball and this mother forgot the, Ball like, nah 1039 00:49:51,600 --> 00:49:54,560 Speaker 1: watch your whole. Everything, Yes so like WHEN i played, 1040 00:49:54,640 --> 00:49:56,920 Speaker 1: that that that was The that was the whole THAT 1041 00:49:57,000 --> 00:49:59,719 Speaker 1: i kept. Up, No i'm just But i've seen you 1042 00:49:59,840 --> 00:50:02,320 Speaker 1: do so it was in my mind like regardless what 1043 00:50:02,440 --> 00:50:04,040 Speaker 1: you was gonna do it to, ME i was away 1044 00:50:04,160 --> 00:50:06,319 Speaker 1: like hold, ON i saw such and such come down 1045 00:50:06,400 --> 00:50:07,680 Speaker 1: there and get his whole ship to her. 1046 00:50:07,719 --> 00:50:10,040 Speaker 3: Up Like i'm not trying to be that, person like 1047 00:50:10,239 --> 00:50:11,200 Speaker 3: good did you rock with? 1048 00:50:11,320 --> 00:50:13,520 Speaker 1: Me but like still that was in my, Mind like, 1049 00:50:13,719 --> 00:50:15,759 Speaker 1: Nah and when you see that's why WHEN i talk 1050 00:50:15,800 --> 00:50:17,440 Speaker 1: about a lot of the PEOPLE i talk about. 1051 00:50:17,239 --> 00:50:19,560 Speaker 3: When you see people that you know supposed to do 1052 00:50:19,680 --> 00:50:21,759 Speaker 3: a certain, thing BUT i need to see it. 1053 00:50:21,880 --> 00:50:24,080 Speaker 1: Done it was what it was supposed to be when 1054 00:50:24,080 --> 00:50:27,919 Speaker 1: you saw this big For Zeke chisel action. 1055 00:50:28,120 --> 00:50:30,600 Speaker 3: Figure but then also once you got. 1056 00:50:33,760 --> 00:50:35,600 Speaker 1: But it was for, Real like it was for. Real 1057 00:50:35,840 --> 00:50:38,040 Speaker 1: like the first time we met you was when we 1058 00:50:38,120 --> 00:50:39,759 Speaker 1: saw him in the weight room and the stables sitting 1059 00:50:39,760 --> 00:50:40,400 Speaker 1: there AND i was, like. 1060 00:50:40,480 --> 00:50:45,200 Speaker 3: God damning there y'all. Doing he was like y'all, Good 1061 00:50:45,239 --> 00:50:47,000 Speaker 3: he was like you was, cool and it was like 1062 00:50:47,239 --> 00:50:49,799 Speaker 3: look at big were. Here it's so like for, Real 1063 00:50:49,920 --> 00:50:50,320 Speaker 3: like that's the. 1064 00:50:50,440 --> 00:50:52,560 Speaker 1: Truth like when you see The avengers and you look 1065 00:50:52,600 --> 00:50:56,879 Speaker 1: At thinos how he destroyed Every avenger by themself WHEN 1066 00:50:56,880 --> 00:50:58,520 Speaker 1: i one took a whole. Group but like when you 1067 00:50:58,600 --> 00:51:00,879 Speaker 1: see people like, you that's WHAT i want to. See 1068 00:51:01,320 --> 00:51:05,040 Speaker 1: and WHEN i don't see, It i'm. Disappointed, Yeah like, 1069 00:51:05,160 --> 00:51:06,719 Speaker 1: NAH i Don't i'm NOT i don't care if you're 1070 00:51:06,719 --> 00:51:08,360 Speaker 1: still an. ALL i don't care if you still want the, 1071 00:51:08,400 --> 00:51:10,520 Speaker 1: best like you not what you supposed to. 1072 00:51:10,560 --> 00:51:12,640 Speaker 3: Be AND i hate when people say BECAUSE i read 1073 00:51:12,680 --> 00:51:14,800 Speaker 3: it With joel andb, Said, SHACK i like you And, 1074 00:51:14,920 --> 00:51:17,080 Speaker 3: chuck but we don't play the game like that no. 1075 00:51:17,200 --> 00:51:20,279 Speaker 3: More why? Not because that's, why because you. 1076 00:51:20,440 --> 00:51:22,880 Speaker 1: Won't if you play like, that nobody can't do a 1077 00:51:23,000 --> 00:51:25,359 Speaker 1: damn thing with, you big, fella and you're gonna change 1078 00:51:25,400 --> 00:51:25,680 Speaker 1: the game. 1079 00:51:25,760 --> 00:51:29,319 Speaker 2: Again that's, because like, you you made a living off 1080 00:51:29,719 --> 00:51:31,200 Speaker 2: sealing motherfuckers right under the. 1081 00:51:31,280 --> 00:51:34,600 Speaker 3: Basket turn the. DARK i never see kids or these 1082 00:51:34,640 --> 00:51:37,040 Speaker 3: big guys seal nobody in the basket no, more even 1083 00:51:37,080 --> 00:51:42,480 Speaker 3: if they bigger and stronger like the big man one. 1084 00:51:42,640 --> 00:51:44,919 Speaker 3: Back you see. IT i can look at the guy 1085 00:51:45,320 --> 00:51:49,080 Speaker 3: and tell who's happy to be, here who wants to be, 1086 00:51:49,200 --> 00:51:52,440 Speaker 3: good who wants to be, great and who wants to 1087 00:51:52,480 --> 00:51:53,480 Speaker 3: be the best? Ever thank? 1088 00:51:53,560 --> 00:51:54,279 Speaker 1: You thank? 1089 00:51:54,360 --> 00:51:57,040 Speaker 3: You we could see that shot you. TELL i can 1090 00:51:57,120 --> 00:51:59,440 Speaker 3: look at you and tell is long. Enough it's a. 1091 00:51:59,520 --> 00:52:02,239 Speaker 3: Pearing some people just like having the hype of being 1092 00:52:02,280 --> 00:52:05,480 Speaker 3: a good. Player that wasn't good enough for. Me that 1093 00:52:05,600 --> 00:52:07,919 Speaker 3: wasn't good enough for. ME i remember. THIS i don't 1094 00:52:07,960 --> 00:52:08,720 Speaker 3: know if you remember. 1095 00:52:08,760 --> 00:52:10,879 Speaker 2: This but we played you in preseason WHEN i got 1096 00:52:10,920 --> 00:52:15,480 Speaker 2: traded from The clippers to The. Caves and every every 1097 00:52:15,560 --> 00:52:17,880 Speaker 2: year you be, like, man, hey keep up to good work. 1098 00:52:17,920 --> 00:52:19,879 Speaker 2: DEMANDS i like the way you. Play you getting better 1099 00:52:19,880 --> 00:52:22,880 Speaker 2: and better every. Year and we played you preseason AND 1100 00:52:23,480 --> 00:52:25,879 Speaker 2: i didn't rehab as. GOOD i didn't have the LIFT 1101 00:52:25,960 --> 00:52:28,400 Speaker 2: i have or the SPEED i, Had and you instantly 1102 00:52:28,520 --> 00:52:30,360 Speaker 2: called it, out was, like that's notthing wrong with, You 1103 00:52:31,120 --> 00:52:31,440 Speaker 2: like you. 1104 00:52:31,520 --> 00:52:34,879 Speaker 3: Ain't you ain't the same player that you was last. 1105 00:52:35,000 --> 00:52:37,640 Speaker 2: Year you was the first player like you was the 1106 00:52:37,680 --> 00:52:40,839 Speaker 2: first person outside of a coach of anybody to point 1107 00:52:40,920 --> 00:52:41,640 Speaker 2: it out and be like. 1108 00:52:41,719 --> 00:52:44,239 Speaker 3: That AND i felt, it like he's, Right LIKE i 1109 00:52:44,280 --> 00:52:47,319 Speaker 3: don't feel it's only twenty people THAT i cared about 1110 00:52:47,320 --> 00:52:50,480 Speaker 3: in THE. Nba, yeah a lot of. YOUNGSTERS i love white. 1111 00:52:50,560 --> 00:52:55,600 Speaker 3: Chocolate yeah that's the, dude white. CHOCOLATE, Gp VINCE, T, 1112 00:52:55,840 --> 00:53:00,480 Speaker 3: mac you, two Grand. Hill that's about. 1113 00:53:00,480 --> 00:53:00,520 Speaker 1: It. 1114 00:53:01,280 --> 00:53:03,480 Speaker 3: EVERYBODY i didn't really care about. It it was, just you, 1115 00:53:03,560 --> 00:53:05,680 Speaker 3: know it was just something about those names THAT i just, 1116 00:53:05,800 --> 00:53:08,960 Speaker 3: mentioned whether you were cool or just you, know speak 1117 00:53:09,040 --> 00:53:09,520 Speaker 3: speaking on. 1118 00:53:09,640 --> 00:53:12,919 Speaker 1: THAT i can legit remember two, instances what you're saying 1119 00:53:12,960 --> 00:53:15,040 Speaker 1: and how you rock with. US i, remember LIKE i 1120 00:53:15,080 --> 00:53:18,040 Speaker 1: remember the first game we played. YOU i don't even 1121 00:53:18,080 --> 00:53:19,279 Speaker 1: remember what You you might've been In. 1122 00:53:19,320 --> 00:53:21,920 Speaker 3: MIAMI i know you had, freckles little cute, ASS a little, boy, 1123 00:53:24,200 --> 00:53:47,120 Speaker 3: yeah little boy beautiful over. There but so this was 1124 00:53:47,160 --> 00:53:48,000 Speaker 3: the first time we. 1125 00:53:48,200 --> 00:53:49,879 Speaker 1: PLAYED i want to say you was with the heat, 1126 00:53:50,000 --> 00:53:52,040 Speaker 1: then because this was WHEN i was With it was 1127 00:53:52,080 --> 00:53:53,520 Speaker 1: the first time after my brother got. 1128 00:53:53,640 --> 00:53:55,560 Speaker 3: Killed AND i remember we was in the warm. 1129 00:53:55,680 --> 00:53:57,279 Speaker 1: Ups you, know you called me over there at the 1130 00:53:57,320 --> 00:54:01,080 Speaker 1: half court, like, hey your family, cool like everybody. Cool 1131 00:54:01,160 --> 00:54:02,879 Speaker 1: AND i was, like, yeah, man you, know we kind 1132 00:54:02,920 --> 00:54:06,040 Speaker 1: of dealing with. It he was like they already got. 1133 00:54:06,120 --> 00:54:09,560 Speaker 1: Him he was like he was, like, nah nah fuck. 1134 00:54:09,680 --> 00:54:12,000 Speaker 1: That you, know we four hover. Here he was, like 1135 00:54:12,120 --> 00:54:14,200 Speaker 1: already got. HIM i was, like, yeah, man they already 1136 00:54:14,400 --> 00:54:15,200 Speaker 1: already rested and. 1137 00:54:15,280 --> 00:54:16,759 Speaker 3: Everything he was like all. Right he was like all, 1138 00:54:16,840 --> 00:54:21,960 Speaker 3: Right i'll. 1139 00:54:19,680 --> 00:54:22,319 Speaker 1: Never forget, that dad Add and then the second, THING 1140 00:54:22,520 --> 00:54:25,160 Speaker 1: i won't know if you remember. This this WAS o 1141 00:54:25,440 --> 00:54:28,239 Speaker 1: five In denver at The All Star game WHEN i 1142 00:54:28,280 --> 00:54:30,759 Speaker 1: won a three point, contest, Right so you remember you 1143 00:54:31,360 --> 00:54:32,320 Speaker 1: And shaanie. 1144 00:54:31,960 --> 00:54:32,520 Speaker 3: Was sitting right. 1145 00:54:32,600 --> 00:54:35,960 Speaker 1: There SO i remember, this, like, Y'all i'll never ever 1146 00:54:36,080 --> 00:54:37,879 Speaker 1: forget this because a couple of, weeks about a month, 1147 00:54:37,920 --> 00:54:40,560 Speaker 1: ago so somebody posted the little, clip and you, KNOW 1148 00:54:40,680 --> 00:54:43,839 Speaker 1: i made my last nine in the. Row so, y'all 1149 00:54:44,120 --> 00:54:46,839 Speaker 1: you and her were sitting right there on the bend 1150 00:54:46,880 --> 00:54:48,680 Speaker 1: of the. Elbow so AFTER i got through with the, 1151 00:54:48,920 --> 00:54:50,879 Speaker 1: rack before the LAST i got to the, corner y'all 1152 00:54:50,960 --> 00:54:51,239 Speaker 1: was right. 1153 00:54:51,320 --> 00:54:53,880 Speaker 3: There SO i missed the first one on the on 1154 00:54:54,000 --> 00:54:56,399 Speaker 3: the second of last. Rack THEN i made the last nine. 1155 00:54:56,440 --> 00:54:59,080 Speaker 1: Straight so AFTER i made about two three AND i 1156 00:54:59,200 --> 00:55:01,680 Speaker 1: was coming around, THIS i started. Shooting now you right behind. 1157 00:55:01,760 --> 00:55:03,600 Speaker 1: Me every TIME i pull, it ALL i can hear 1158 00:55:03,680 --> 00:55:09,920 Speaker 1: behind with yeah. Yeah and it was like it was 1159 00:55:10,040 --> 00:55:12,239 Speaker 1: weird because you, know like in those moments LIKE i 1160 00:55:12,560 --> 00:55:13,920 Speaker 1: felt LIKE i was in the. Zone it was LIKE 1161 00:55:13,960 --> 00:55:16,440 Speaker 1: i can't really hear ship else like a crowd or 1162 00:55:16,480 --> 00:55:18,400 Speaker 1: none they, going BUT i hear. 1163 00:55:18,440 --> 00:55:24,440 Speaker 3: You right, there. Y'all, y'all, Yo i'll never forget that 1164 00:55:24,600 --> 00:55:26,680 Speaker 3: ship like sack was right. There you had to head. 1165 00:55:26,719 --> 00:55:31,040 Speaker 3: ON i was, Like, yo that's crazy movies like you. 1166 00:55:31,080 --> 00:55:32,680 Speaker 3: GOT i had the opportunity to do a couple of 1167 00:55:32,800 --> 00:55:41,400 Speaker 3: movies you're talking about my. Ship ship was bank. 1168 00:55:42,800 --> 00:55:42,840 Speaker 2: That? 1169 00:55:43,040 --> 00:55:47,200 Speaker 3: MOVIE i, SAID i deled my ship MYLF i hold. 1170 00:55:49,280 --> 00:55:51,320 Speaker 1: It's the coldest part. Though he was in the movie With, 1171 00:55:51,480 --> 00:55:53,680 Speaker 1: look he was in the movie With Captain America Black. 1172 00:55:53,760 --> 00:55:55,919 Speaker 1: Widow all of them was in that movie before they blew. 1173 00:55:56,040 --> 00:55:57,920 Speaker 1: Up after that, MOVIE i, said, Damn. 1174 00:55:57,719 --> 00:55:59,879 Speaker 3: I'm supposed to be a superhero one way. 1175 00:56:00,200 --> 00:56:03,040 Speaker 1: Way you got Damn avengers rolling everybody in your movie 1176 00:56:03,080 --> 00:56:04,880 Speaker 1: win big time except him living IN. 1177 00:56:05,080 --> 00:56:07,160 Speaker 3: La you get those. OPPORTUNITY i ain't saying no to them. 1178 00:56:07,200 --> 00:56:10,320 Speaker 3: OPPORTUNITIES i just, say, LOOK i never wanted to do a. 1179 00:56:10,440 --> 00:56:13,719 Speaker 3: Rapout so WHEN i first did our senior, HALL i, 1180 00:56:13,760 --> 00:56:15,600 Speaker 3: SAID i gotta do something. Different i'm. DIFFERENT i, said 1181 00:56:15,640 --> 00:56:17,800 Speaker 3: just let me wrap up my favorite rap group and 1182 00:56:18,200 --> 00:56:20,680 Speaker 3: wrapping the food. Sneakers next, day my office, said we 1183 00:56:20,760 --> 00:56:23,239 Speaker 3: want to give you a record. DEAL i was, like 1184 00:56:25,280 --> 00:56:27,600 Speaker 3: we'll give you ten million your first. RECORD i, SAID 1185 00:56:27,600 --> 00:56:29,200 Speaker 3: i don't THINK i could do a record by. Myself 1186 00:56:29,200 --> 00:56:33,239 Speaker 3: we'll get anybody you. Want. ANYBODY i, said, OKAY i 1187 00:56:33,320 --> 00:56:35,040 Speaker 3: can do, albums but it ain't gonna be. Me i'm 1188 00:56:35,040 --> 00:56:38,560 Speaker 3: a big quick. Snoop that's why these ALBUM i want 1189 00:56:38,600 --> 00:56:42,160 Speaker 3: TO i can imagine you sitting, there just come to 1190 00:56:42,239 --> 00:56:44,480 Speaker 3: you LIKE i don't wrap you like they're like ten. 1191 00:56:44,560 --> 00:56:46,120 Speaker 3: Mil they, like we'll get anybody you LIKE. 1192 00:56:46,480 --> 00:56:50,719 Speaker 2: I, HAD i had you used to do a song 1193 00:56:50,840 --> 00:56:54,560 Speaker 2: With biggie like one is arguably the best rapper ever 1194 00:56:55,560 --> 00:56:57,400 Speaker 2: to do a song with, him and one of the 1195 00:56:57,520 --> 00:56:59,520 Speaker 2: dopest songs ever still ring to this. 1196 00:56:59,719 --> 00:57:02,480 Speaker 3: Day tell us about the process of. That so the 1197 00:57:02,600 --> 00:57:05,360 Speaker 3: process is we get him on the phone because he 1198 00:57:05,480 --> 00:57:10,200 Speaker 3: Said i'm Doing brothers like She. Kill SO i was, like, 1199 00:57:10,280 --> 00:57:13,879 Speaker 3: oh you, know you, know SO i called. HIM i Called, 1200 00:57:13,920 --> 00:57:17,040 Speaker 3: PUFF i, said, Big i'm doing All we, said, YEAH 1201 00:57:17,080 --> 00:57:19,320 Speaker 3: i heard, you big fun we can do. It SO 1202 00:57:19,560 --> 00:57:23,320 Speaker 3: i sent him to beat and uh never. Responded so 1203 00:57:23,480 --> 00:57:25,880 Speaker 3: Then puff call said A biggie And little c they 1204 00:57:25,960 --> 00:57:28,280 Speaker 3: flying the other. Day but proud of, THAT i. WAS 1205 00:57:28,400 --> 00:57:30,480 Speaker 3: i did my verse off of like ten times BECAUSE 1206 00:57:30,520 --> 00:57:33,360 Speaker 3: i wanted to be, Like i'm not that good to 1207 00:57:33,440 --> 00:57:35,040 Speaker 3: be in the studio of. Him let me just get 1208 00:57:35,120 --> 00:57:40,320 Speaker 3: mine out the. Way. Yeah SO i Had peter with 1209 00:57:40,480 --> 00:57:42,880 Speaker 3: me and everybody hurt and everybody, said, yeah that's. Dope 1210 00:57:42,920 --> 00:57:45,600 Speaker 3: he gonna like. That so when he get, there BECAUSE 1211 00:57:45,600 --> 00:57:47,800 Speaker 3: i had the studio in the, HOUSE i let him. 1212 00:57:47,840 --> 00:57:50,640 Speaker 3: Here he's, like that's. Tight that's. Tight SO i had 1213 00:57:50,720 --> 00:57:53,440 Speaker 3: him a pad and a. Pen but you, know they 1214 00:57:53,520 --> 00:57:55,080 Speaker 3: was gonna be doing their thing in the. Studio you 1215 00:57:55,120 --> 00:57:56,880 Speaker 3: Know i'm talking. ABOUT i can't be a part of. 1216 00:57:56,960 --> 00:58:00,160 Speaker 3: That SO i, said get your pat you, pin just 1217 00:58:00,240 --> 00:58:02,760 Speaker 3: hit this button and being here and just let me 1218 00:58:02,840 --> 00:58:05,880 Speaker 3: know you're. Ready he's, Like i'm ready, now what you 1219 00:58:05,960 --> 00:58:07,960 Speaker 3: mean you're? Ready? Now you Said i'm? Ready, now, bro 1220 00:58:08,360 --> 00:58:13,320 Speaker 3: one take killed. It listening to, him JAY z AND 1221 00:58:13,400 --> 00:58:16,520 Speaker 3: i is the only people to do. That three minutes nailed, 1222 00:58:16,560 --> 00:58:21,040 Speaker 3: it but it was Two it was two street and 1223 00:58:21,160 --> 00:58:23,640 Speaker 3: we played about five. TIMES i looked at, Him he's, 1224 00:58:23,680 --> 00:58:25,280 Speaker 3: like what's. WRONG i was, like. Big he's, like that's. 1225 00:58:25,360 --> 00:58:27,960 Speaker 3: Right the kids my bad diesel and then he went 1226 00:58:28,040 --> 00:58:29,920 Speaker 3: back and laid the other. Verse So i'm the only 1227 00:58:30,000 --> 00:58:32,080 Speaker 3: one that got the original with it head AND i 1228 00:58:32,080 --> 00:58:35,680 Speaker 3: ain't gonna never release. IT i got. IT i bumping 1229 00:58:35,720 --> 00:58:39,360 Speaker 3: all the. Time you had to. Listen he went, off went, 1230 00:58:39,440 --> 00:58:46,200 Speaker 3: off you went, off AND i was, like he's, like what's. 1231 00:58:46,200 --> 00:58:47,840 Speaker 1: WRONG i was, like, big he, said that's, right these 1232 00:58:47,920 --> 00:58:50,360 Speaker 1: are my bad kids. Kids and so you listen to 1233 00:58:50,440 --> 00:58:52,160 Speaker 1: the real version whenever you want. 1234 00:58:52,240 --> 00:58:55,000 Speaker 2: To you had a song to your father on your 1235 00:58:55,120 --> 00:58:57,080 Speaker 2: on that AND i used to listen to that song 1236 00:58:57,160 --> 00:58:59,440 Speaker 2: all the time BECAUSE i had my. Daddy you had 1237 00:58:59,440 --> 00:59:01,920 Speaker 2: a video to it and all that. Stuff what was 1238 00:59:01,960 --> 00:59:04,400 Speaker 2: inspired by that? Song LIKE i know it's your, father 1239 00:59:04,560 --> 00:59:07,120 Speaker 2: but like how you wanted to put that out to 1240 00:59:07,160 --> 00:59:07,520 Speaker 2: put it in. 1241 00:59:07,640 --> 00:59:09,360 Speaker 3: Work the guy that made me WHO i am was my. 1242 00:59:09,440 --> 00:59:13,640 Speaker 3: Stepfather so then my real father came. AROUND i ain't 1243 00:59:13,640 --> 00:59:15,240 Speaker 3: gonna talk about now because me and my real father 1244 00:59:15,280 --> 00:59:19,280 Speaker 3: we kind of. Made he came, around And i'm, like, 1245 00:59:19,360 --> 00:59:22,720 Speaker 3: bro the world don't need to know that. NOW i 1246 00:59:22,800 --> 00:59:25,800 Speaker 3: GOT tmz all them before that was, nothing only people 1247 00:59:25,840 --> 00:59:29,080 Speaker 3: all in my, business, right but my thing was From jerody. 1248 00:59:29,160 --> 00:59:32,160 Speaker 3: Eighteen you weren't trying to, holler so don't try to 1249 00:59:32,240 --> 00:59:35,120 Speaker 3: holler now Because i'm Check. Diesel. Yeah but, anyway so 1250 00:59:35,200 --> 00:59:37,440 Speaker 3: after my stepfather, passed my mom, said you need to 1251 00:59:38,200 --> 00:59:40,440 Speaker 3: get to know your real. Father so we were. Cool. Now, 1252 00:59:41,200 --> 00:59:43,480 Speaker 3: YEAH i talk to him arow the time gotta grow. Up, 1253 00:59:43,680 --> 00:59:47,480 Speaker 3: YES i went to see him In. NORK i, said, hey, 1254 00:59:47,520 --> 00:59:49,760 Speaker 3: man come holler at. Me he, Said, Man i'm thirty blocks. 1255 00:59:49,800 --> 00:59:54,760 Speaker 3: Away you? Walking SO i had. To we went to a, 1256 00:59:54,840 --> 00:59:57,680 Speaker 3: spot said pick one, out bought him a little. Cars 1257 00:59:57,800 --> 00:59:59,720 Speaker 3: WHEN i coming, down call you take come and see. 1258 00:59:59,760 --> 01:00:03,240 Speaker 3: Me don't tell me you're. Walking SO i bought him 1259 01:00:03,280 --> 01:00:06,440 Speaker 3: a little cheap sitting on some, things so he rolled 1260 01:00:06,480 --> 01:00:08,320 Speaker 3: him Around nork and they know that's my, pop so 1261 01:00:08,440 --> 01:00:11,720 Speaker 3: they know not to mess with. Him but we cool. 1262 01:00:11,800 --> 01:00:13,280 Speaker 3: Now but at that TIME i was, like, bro you 1263 01:00:13,320 --> 01:00:14,960 Speaker 3: ain't have to let the world notice and then to 1264 01:00:15,040 --> 01:00:17,040 Speaker 3: pay homage to the guy that maybe, Man i'm gonna 1265 01:00:17,080 --> 01:00:19,200 Speaker 3: let the world know that he's the, one because without, 1266 01:00:19,320 --> 01:00:20,240 Speaker 3: HIM i wouldn't be here right. 1267 01:00:20,280 --> 01:00:23,120 Speaker 2: NOW i, REMEMBER i don't know IF q was with. 1268 01:00:23,240 --> 01:00:24,680 Speaker 2: ME i don't know if we came over there With. 1269 01:00:24,840 --> 01:00:27,200 Speaker 2: LEBRON i remember two stories of coming over your house In, 1270 01:00:27,360 --> 01:00:30,760 Speaker 2: orlando The Big. HOUSE i remember when we came over. There, yes, 1271 01:00:30,920 --> 01:00:33,560 Speaker 2: yeah you see them neighbors down. There i'm putting up 1272 01:00:33,560 --> 01:00:35,240 Speaker 2: in their house with The brinks trucks and they gonna 1273 01:00:35,280 --> 01:00:38,120 Speaker 2: have to get. Out you have to move to build 1274 01:00:38,160 --> 01:00:41,000 Speaker 2: the house that you. HAVE i remember going over, there 1275 01:00:41,000 --> 01:00:42,680 Speaker 2: and you had BECAUSE. 1276 01:00:42,480 --> 01:00:44,720 Speaker 3: I was Watching godfather one. Day let's make them off 1277 01:00:44,760 --> 01:00:47,520 Speaker 3: for they can. Refuse so the house next to me 1278 01:00:47,680 --> 01:00:50,120 Speaker 3: was worth two, something LIKE i did all my, research 1279 01:00:50,720 --> 01:00:52,920 Speaker 3: SO i went over, there Like i'll give you one five. Cash, 1280 01:00:53,160 --> 01:00:58,000 Speaker 3: Nope i'll give you one seven. Cash, Nope i'll give 1281 01:00:58,000 --> 01:01:01,720 Speaker 3: you two, Cash, nope to one. Cash that's my fune. Off, 1282 01:01:01,800 --> 01:01:05,880 Speaker 3: okay won't get out. Expanded so you know at that, 1283 01:01:06,000 --> 01:01:09,120 Speaker 3: TIME i, added SO i just wanted to make the bigger. 1284 01:01:09,200 --> 01:01:11,520 Speaker 3: Hospital when you're that, young you don't think like, right 1285 01:01:12,360 --> 01:01:15,240 Speaker 3: only been there two days last, year so it's just 1286 01:01:15,280 --> 01:01:18,720 Speaker 3: sitting there collecting. Us so spend the night or something 1287 01:01:18,760 --> 01:01:24,280 Speaker 3: like we live five, minutes know, that like let me 1288 01:01:24,400 --> 01:01:26,040 Speaker 3: come over and spend the night or. SOMETHING i take 1289 01:01:26,120 --> 01:01:28,480 Speaker 3: care of seven. Eleven it was like you just, left 1290 01:01:28,960 --> 01:01:30,760 Speaker 3: like we needed gym to work out for LIKE i 1291 01:01:30,840 --> 01:01:32,520 Speaker 3: play The Big. THREE i know you got the shack 1292 01:01:32,600 --> 01:01:35,680 Speaker 3: center THAT i need to go work out something you 1293 01:01:35,800 --> 01:01:36,920 Speaker 3: call me in the. Town you know What i'm. 1294 01:01:36,920 --> 01:01:39,520 Speaker 1: SAYING i got, KIDS i know how to take care of. 1295 01:01:39,520 --> 01:01:41,800 Speaker 1: STUFF i ain't gonna do like. That i'll be at 1296 01:01:41,840 --> 01:01:42,520 Speaker 1: home bored by. 1297 01:01:42,600 --> 01:01:45,320 Speaker 3: MYSELF i. AIN'T i told YOU i didn't see literally 1298 01:01:45,440 --> 01:01:49,880 Speaker 3: remember a couple of times. Time what is THAT i 1299 01:01:50,040 --> 01:01:53,000 Speaker 3: saw him a few times like. You first of, all 1300 01:01:54,040 --> 01:01:55,160 Speaker 3: we got to talk about the. 1301 01:01:55,240 --> 01:01:57,520 Speaker 1: Toys you got more toys as a as a big 1302 01:01:57,880 --> 01:01:59,320 Speaker 1: adult than, Anybody LIKE. 1303 01:01:59,360 --> 01:02:03,680 Speaker 3: I, say one time and sling shot switches in like 1304 01:02:03,720 --> 01:02:06,760 Speaker 3: an old school playing music, loud like you to get 1305 01:02:06,800 --> 01:02:09,640 Speaker 3: rid of, it And i'll be seeing the mac all the. 1306 01:02:09,680 --> 01:02:17,320 Speaker 3: Time secuz all the time about the van for, yeah 1307 01:02:17,760 --> 01:02:21,200 Speaker 3: that's but, yeah you want to. Sling we had the 1308 01:02:21,240 --> 01:02:23,840 Speaker 3: opportunity to have a big baby on our. Show that's my. 1309 01:02:23,960 --> 01:02:25,720 Speaker 3: Boy he said he had the opportunity to meet you 1310 01:02:25,760 --> 01:02:28,160 Speaker 3: when he was younger and he flipped me AND i 1311 01:02:28,280 --> 01:02:35,360 Speaker 3: was wrestling. Slap, yeah he's strong and ship flip right here. 1312 01:02:35,480 --> 01:02:37,480 Speaker 1: Today he said he didn't even know what was going. 1313 01:02:37,480 --> 01:02:39,320 Speaker 1: On he, said he just all excited to meet you 1314 01:02:39,400 --> 01:02:42,000 Speaker 1: and you you square it, up, like come, on, like let's. 1315 01:02:42,000 --> 01:02:44,040 Speaker 1: Wrestle he was, LIKE i about to. 1316 01:02:44,040 --> 01:02:48,520 Speaker 3: Wrestle. CHECK i GUESS i got. HIM i got him 1317 01:02:48,560 --> 01:02:48,720 Speaker 3: for a. 1318 01:02:48,840 --> 01:02:56,560 Speaker 1: Second flip that Was Big dog is definitely shout out 1319 01:02:56,600 --> 01:02:59,880 Speaker 1: to the. Bear really strong you. DOING i can't find 1320 01:03:00,080 --> 01:03:02,040 Speaker 1: Big baby Good. Man were trying to Get we're trying 1321 01:03:02,040 --> 01:03:03,360 Speaker 1: to get his barbecue. 1322 01:03:02,920 --> 01:03:03,360 Speaker 3: Thing off the. 1323 01:03:03,400 --> 01:03:07,320 Speaker 1: Ground you, know he got some, barbecue, man, listen were 1324 01:03:07,320 --> 01:03:10,880 Speaker 1: trying to get somebody his big baby. Barbecue he's. Amazing 1325 01:03:11,160 --> 01:03:12,960 Speaker 1: the man can cook and ever you, know can you 1326 01:03:13,040 --> 01:03:16,400 Speaker 1: come on, man you've seen. Restaurant, Nah he's trying to get, 1327 01:03:16,480 --> 01:03:17,880 Speaker 1: somebody all. 1328 01:03:17,840 --> 01:03:20,200 Speaker 3: Right Big, BABY i got a cooking. Show we're starting to. 1329 01:03:20,280 --> 01:03:25,840 Speaker 3: March we need to do Big. Baby you, Here i'm 1330 01:03:25,880 --> 01:03:27,600 Speaker 3: gonna bring you on like you do a lot of, 1331 01:03:27,680 --> 01:03:32,160 Speaker 3: things your, cops you got, degrees your DOST? Tv how 1332 01:03:32,200 --> 01:03:35,080 Speaker 3: did that? Start how did that? Start? Though like you 1333 01:03:35,280 --> 01:03:38,680 Speaker 3: pulled us over in l a bro with flashing. Lights. 1334 01:03:38,840 --> 01:03:41,880 Speaker 3: Bro everybody know you the po po? Man you twelve 1335 01:03:41,960 --> 01:03:44,160 Speaker 3: however you want to call the. Five. Oh so WHEN 1336 01:03:44,200 --> 01:03:48,240 Speaker 3: i was, young hearing THAT i wasn't gonna be a 1337 01:03:48,280 --> 01:03:52,360 Speaker 3: great basketball, PLAYER i would write down alphabetic order WHAT 1338 01:03:52,680 --> 01:03:58,040 Speaker 3: i wanted to. Be, HEY a basketball, PLAYER b basketball, PLAYER, c, COP, d, 1339 01:03:58,280 --> 01:04:02,160 Speaker 3: detective ENTREPRENEUR. F i don't know what that. Was so 1340 01:04:02,960 --> 01:04:08,200 Speaker 3: these are all. Dreams so towards a latter part of my, 1341 01:04:08,320 --> 01:04:10,600 Speaker 3: career When i'm starting to feel, Old i'm, like what 1342 01:04:10,680 --> 01:04:12,960 Speaker 3: AM i gonna do WHEN i? Retire because you never 1343 01:04:13,040 --> 01:04:15,480 Speaker 3: know what you're gonna. Do like podcast wasn't out, yet 1344 01:04:16,280 --> 01:04:18,480 Speaker 3: TN t wasn't really. HIGHING i didn't know What i'm gonna. 1345 01:04:18,520 --> 01:04:20,960 Speaker 3: DO i THINK i could be a sheriff BECAUSE i 1346 01:04:21,000 --> 01:04:24,120 Speaker 3: can relate to. US i want to be the guy 1347 01:04:24,200 --> 01:04:27,560 Speaker 3: that brings law enforcement in the hood close. TOGETHER i 1348 01:04:27,640 --> 01:04:29,760 Speaker 3: speak our. Language see a lot of people that a 1349 01:04:29,800 --> 01:04:31,800 Speaker 3: lot of people in that position don't speak our LANGUAGE i. 1350 01:04:31,840 --> 01:04:35,440 Speaker 3: SPEAK i know When i'm pulling, up who holding and 1351 01:04:35,480 --> 01:04:37,960 Speaker 3: who ain't. HOLDING i know When i'm pulling up who 1352 01:04:38,080 --> 01:04:40,200 Speaker 3: really working the streets or who really working or? Not 1353 01:04:40,360 --> 01:04:42,920 Speaker 3: LIKE i can see it because that's what we've been 1354 01:04:42,960 --> 01:04:46,000 Speaker 3: seeing all my. Life BUT i don't like people giving me. 1355 01:04:46,040 --> 01:04:49,439 Speaker 3: STUFF i want to earn everything And. God so WHILE 1356 01:04:49,480 --> 01:04:52,240 Speaker 3: i was, PLAYING i was at THE La Sheriff's academy 1357 01:04:53,120 --> 01:04:55,959 Speaker 3: and there's different. Levels you got level, three level, two level. 1358 01:04:56,000 --> 01:04:59,240 Speaker 3: One level one gives you full fledged police. Status you 1359 01:04:59,320 --> 01:05:00,960 Speaker 3: don't have to have any body with. You So i'm 1360 01:05:01,000 --> 01:05:03,840 Speaker 3: a reserve In lafe AND i was. WORKING i was 1361 01:05:03,880 --> 01:05:06,280 Speaker 3: working the, streets working in the, neighborhood talking to, kids 1362 01:05:06,400 --> 01:05:10,240 Speaker 3: going through the, hood doing. Stuff because When i'm done with, 1363 01:05:10,400 --> 01:05:14,880 Speaker 3: EVERYTHING i will be sheriff Somewhere, Orlando, Georgia. FLORIDA i don't. 1364 01:05:14,920 --> 01:05:17,240 Speaker 3: Know AND i want the people that work for me 1365 01:05:17,320 --> 01:05:20,280 Speaker 3: to SEE i have the. Qualifications because sheriff is an elected. 1366 01:05:20,400 --> 01:05:23,360 Speaker 3: Position i'm SURE i could win from being. Shock but 1367 01:05:23,520 --> 01:05:25,160 Speaker 3: now THAT i got the, job you want your people 1368 01:05:25,200 --> 01:05:27,600 Speaker 3: to respect. You she's like for me to have a 1369 01:05:27,680 --> 01:05:29,920 Speaker 3: television radio crew like. This they already have to know 1370 01:05:30,040 --> 01:05:32,680 Speaker 3: THAT i have anough experience to say you put the camera, 1371 01:05:32,760 --> 01:05:34,160 Speaker 3: there you put the camera, that you put the camera, 1372 01:05:34,240 --> 01:05:36,520 Speaker 3: there don't buy that mic sit. Like they have to 1373 01:05:36,600 --> 01:05:38,160 Speaker 3: know so they respect. Me IF i come and just 1374 01:05:38,160 --> 01:05:39,840 Speaker 3: say do a camera thing and let them do what they, 1375 01:05:39,920 --> 01:05:43,120 Speaker 3: want it's gonna be. Bullshit so that's WHY i always 1376 01:05:43,160 --> 01:05:46,480 Speaker 3: wanted to be a Copy, like stop telling PEOPLE i 1377 01:05:46,520 --> 01:05:49,800 Speaker 3: pulled y'all. OVER i ain't pull you. Over get your? 1378 01:05:49,840 --> 01:06:01,000 Speaker 3: Ticket yeah, no calm you know What i'm. 1379 01:06:01,000 --> 01:06:06,280 Speaker 2: Saying but, before when you used to, be when you 1380 01:06:06,560 --> 01:06:08,160 Speaker 2: get the title of a, doctor you put all this 1381 01:06:08,240 --> 01:06:11,120 Speaker 2: stuff on your. RESUME i never knew what was the 1382 01:06:11,240 --> 01:06:14,000 Speaker 2: meaning of. It but then AS i got older and be, like, 1383 01:06:14,160 --> 01:06:17,600 Speaker 2: MAN i WANT i want my resume to be filled 1384 01:06:17,680 --> 01:06:20,680 Speaker 2: up as much as your. Resume you can look at 1385 01:06:20,720 --> 01:06:23,400 Speaker 2: this resume like he's a, doctor he's a, cop he's 1386 01:06:23,440 --> 01:06:27,080 Speaker 2: a professional, entrepreneur he's, this and he's. 1387 01:06:27,120 --> 01:06:28,840 Speaker 3: That you all are younger than. MAN i want to 1388 01:06:28,840 --> 01:06:31,640 Speaker 3: say y' all my kids, Disrespectfully BUT i did it for. Y'all, 1389 01:06:31,960 --> 01:06:34,160 Speaker 3: YEAH i did it for my. KIDS i want to 1390 01:06:34,200 --> 01:06:37,040 Speaker 3: be just you, KNOW i want people to say if 1391 01:06:37,080 --> 01:06:39,000 Speaker 3: he can do, IT i can do. It. Yeah all 1392 01:06:39,040 --> 01:06:41,600 Speaker 3: it takes to just get one or two people in that. 1393 01:06:41,760 --> 01:06:43,640 Speaker 3: Situation and even, now LIKE i meet a lot of 1394 01:06:43,680 --> 01:06:46,200 Speaker 3: people actually makes me feel, hey, man WHEN i was, 1395 01:06:46,280 --> 01:06:48,760 Speaker 3: YOUNG i did. THIS i met a guy one. Time he, said, 1396 01:06:48,760 --> 01:06:51,440 Speaker 3: MAN i was about to kill. Myself, YEAH i met. 1397 01:06:51,480 --> 01:06:53,960 Speaker 3: You he was nice to. Me you know. You my 1398 01:06:54,120 --> 01:06:56,280 Speaker 3: mom was having problem buying something and you bought the. 1399 01:06:56,360 --> 01:06:58,680 Speaker 3: Furniture AND i, said, MAN i want to be like. 1400 01:06:58,760 --> 01:06:59,280 Speaker 3: You he's a. 1401 01:06:59,360 --> 01:07:02,680 Speaker 1: Lawyer now, NO i feel like for, real like a 1402 01:07:02,760 --> 01:07:04,440 Speaker 1: lot of the, things like you, know we come, up 1403 01:07:04,520 --> 01:07:06,760 Speaker 1: we grow up and see different, things and like even 1404 01:07:06,760 --> 01:07:08,240 Speaker 1: when we was in the, LEAGUE i used to always 1405 01:07:08,320 --> 01:07:11,720 Speaker 1: be like, damn like, shack like my spirit, animal or 1406 01:07:11,760 --> 01:07:14,040 Speaker 1: something like Just i'm, serious like just on the way 1407 01:07:14,160 --> 01:07:15,120 Speaker 1: BECAUSE i feel like. 1408 01:07:17,000 --> 01:07:19,080 Speaker 3: To you, know one of the quotes in my, sister 1409 01:07:19,320 --> 01:07:20,000 Speaker 3: not a quote but. 1410 01:07:20,160 --> 01:07:22,800 Speaker 1: A scripture that mind in my sister would always quote 1411 01:07:22,880 --> 01:07:24,680 Speaker 1: was like to whom much is, given much is. 1412 01:07:24,720 --> 01:07:25,200 Speaker 3: Required. 1413 01:07:25,360 --> 01:07:27,760 Speaker 1: Right SO i always looked at that as like we 1414 01:07:27,880 --> 01:07:30,200 Speaker 1: should be doing more and trying to help people and do, 1415 01:07:30,320 --> 01:07:33,480 Speaker 1: that and like, YOU i feel LIKE i don't want 1416 01:07:33,520 --> 01:07:35,880 Speaker 1: to say more than, anybody but as much as anybody 1417 01:07:36,200 --> 01:07:38,880 Speaker 1: THAT i could think, of and always help people from 1418 01:07:38,960 --> 01:07:41,120 Speaker 1: giving you, know people that work from the team buying 1419 01:07:41,200 --> 01:07:43,400 Speaker 1: them trucks or cars or just all types of. 1420 01:07:43,440 --> 01:07:44,920 Speaker 3: Stories from the things you do with. 1421 01:07:45,000 --> 01:07:47,000 Speaker 1: The kids with your, charity how you do the shack 1422 01:07:47,040 --> 01:07:49,640 Speaker 1: of clause and you do it all over the, country 1423 01:07:49,760 --> 01:07:54,000 Speaker 1: not just, here or they're like we all directly. Relate 1424 01:07:54,120 --> 01:07:56,120 Speaker 1: like you, said you speak that. Language you come from 1425 01:07:56,200 --> 01:07:58,120 Speaker 1: not getting, gifts so you know what it means to 1426 01:07:58,200 --> 01:08:00,480 Speaker 1: be able to provide those gifts and do those. Things 1427 01:08:00,920 --> 01:08:03,160 Speaker 1: just talk about how that how special that is for, 1428 01:08:03,240 --> 01:08:06,680 Speaker 1: you because LIKE i, SAY i watch all the time social, MEDIA, tv, 1429 01:08:06,840 --> 01:08:09,360 Speaker 1: everything and it's the thing THAT i enjoyed the best 1430 01:08:09,720 --> 01:08:11,960 Speaker 1: WHEN i watch it is because you could, tell like you, 1431 01:08:12,040 --> 01:08:13,960 Speaker 1: say when you pull, up you could tell who holding who? 1432 01:08:14,000 --> 01:08:16,200 Speaker 3: Do you could tell those people that's. 1433 01:08:16,080 --> 01:08:18,240 Speaker 1: Doing it and it's genuine Or i'm just doing it 1434 01:08:18,439 --> 01:08:21,200 Speaker 1: just because it looked good OR i should like WHEN 1435 01:08:21,240 --> 01:08:23,800 Speaker 1: i see you do, it you have as good a 1436 01:08:23,920 --> 01:08:26,240 Speaker 1: time as the kids getting the bikes as the kids 1437 01:08:26,320 --> 01:08:26,640 Speaker 1: getting like. 1438 01:08:26,760 --> 01:08:28,120 Speaker 3: You you get a kick out of. 1439 01:08:28,160 --> 01:08:31,040 Speaker 1: That and even in everything that's already we know set 1440 01:08:31,160 --> 01:08:33,200 Speaker 1: this stuff is set up and situated to do. It 1441 01:08:33,280 --> 01:08:35,880 Speaker 1: but you still bring your luves to. It you coming 1442 01:08:35,880 --> 01:08:37,479 Speaker 1: out your, pocket do this for a. HUNDREDS i got 1443 01:08:37,520 --> 01:08:39,519 Speaker 1: one hundred dollars for, you, say just doing extras on, 1444 01:08:39,640 --> 01:08:42,280 Speaker 1: top which we know what that means to them. Kids 1445 01:08:42,320 --> 01:08:44,880 Speaker 1: so for, ME i just man LIKE i, said you 1446 01:08:45,040 --> 01:08:47,880 Speaker 1: my spirit animal and thing more like you for. 1447 01:08:48,000 --> 01:08:51,760 Speaker 3: Real my mom always taught me in. Reddals she, said, 1448 01:08:51,840 --> 01:08:56,240 Speaker 3: son you are once and. Nobody now you're, somebody but as. 1449 01:08:56,400 --> 01:08:58,799 Speaker 3: Somebody if you treat the regular man like a, nobody 1450 01:08:59,600 --> 01:09:03,280 Speaker 3: you will revert back to being a. Nobody that's. Strong 1451 01:09:03,880 --> 01:09:06,200 Speaker 3: SO i. Don't can you repeat that? Again, no BECAUSE 1452 01:09:06,240 --> 01:09:10,920 Speaker 3: i just made it up And i'm drinking this lovely Refreshing, 1453 01:09:14,479 --> 01:09:18,479 Speaker 3: no you were onting, nobody but now you are. Somebody 1454 01:09:19,000 --> 01:09:21,240 Speaker 3: but if you treat the regular people as a, nobody 1455 01:09:21,320 --> 01:09:23,720 Speaker 3: you will revert back to being a. Nobody SO i 1456 01:09:23,840 --> 01:09:25,320 Speaker 3: just want to make people. SMILE i want to be. 1457 01:09:25,439 --> 01:09:27,160 Speaker 3: Nice i'm not just BECAUSE i make more money than, 1458 01:09:27,200 --> 01:09:29,320 Speaker 3: you don't Mean i'm better than. You it's Because i'm 1459 01:09:29,360 --> 01:09:31,120 Speaker 3: bigger than, you don't Mean i'm harder than. You because 1460 01:09:31,120 --> 01:09:32,720 Speaker 3: anybody could be. Touched you, know you know What i'm. 1461 01:09:32,720 --> 01:09:35,519 Speaker 3: Saying So i'm all about peace AND i don't want no. 1462 01:09:35,680 --> 01:09:38,360 Speaker 3: Problems i'll just, hey what's up my? MAN i show, 1463 01:09:38,439 --> 01:09:42,160 Speaker 3: RESPECT i demand, respect and you, know you just have 1464 01:09:42,320 --> 01:09:43,720 Speaker 3: to be nice to Be like the other, DAY i 1465 01:09:43,800 --> 01:09:45,880 Speaker 3: was At. TOMORROW i saw this beautiful sister with five 1466 01:09:45,920 --> 01:09:48,400 Speaker 3: babies and no. COATS i was in a. HURRY i 1467 01:09:48,520 --> 01:09:51,000 Speaker 3: d missed a, meeting BUT i couldn't do. IT i was, 1468 01:09:51,080 --> 01:09:53,360 Speaker 3: like come, on she's like, WHAT i just need some 1469 01:09:53,400 --> 01:09:56,320 Speaker 3: mond saying, no bring your. Ass SO i took it 1470 01:09:56,400 --> 01:09:58,120 Speaker 3: to the store AND i bought all them. Babies, bro 1471 01:09:58,240 --> 01:09:59,720 Speaker 3: WHEN i tell you it's cold out, there that was 1472 01:09:59,760 --> 01:10:02,320 Speaker 3: like it was AND i had somewhere to, be BUT 1473 01:10:02,439 --> 01:10:04,360 Speaker 3: i just seen. Her she was pushing one baby in the. 1474 01:10:04,400 --> 01:10:06,680 Speaker 3: STROLL i had five babies AND i was right By 1475 01:10:06,800 --> 01:10:11,280 Speaker 3: valet AND i was, like come, ON i don't walk 1476 01:10:11,360 --> 01:10:15,120 Speaker 3: back in them all taking. Pictures but you, know she's 1477 01:10:15,320 --> 01:10:17,160 Speaker 3: she's like this cold. CARSE i was, like don't worry 1478 01:10:17,200 --> 01:10:19,479 Speaker 3: about the, coach just get two. COACHES i spent about thirteen, 1479 01:10:19,560 --> 01:10:22,479 Speaker 3: hundred but, yeah LIKE i wouldn't have felt right getting 1480 01:10:22,520 --> 01:10:25,120 Speaker 3: in my car and leave them babies out. THERE i 1481 01:10:25,160 --> 01:10:27,400 Speaker 3: couldn't do, it AND i was a little mad BECAUSE 1482 01:10:27,400 --> 01:10:28,640 Speaker 3: i was gonna be late for the, meet BUT i was, 1483 01:10:28,720 --> 01:10:30,519 Speaker 3: like why you got them babies out of hearing them 1484 01:10:30,560 --> 01:10:34,360 Speaker 3: coach with no coachs, like come on, back we just 1485 01:10:34,400 --> 01:10:36,600 Speaker 3: got to do. It so stuff like, THAT i just you, 1486 01:10:36,640 --> 01:10:38,880 Speaker 3: know feel, like you, know it's my duty to. 1487 01:10:38,960 --> 01:10:39,000 Speaker 1: Do. 1488 01:10:39,479 --> 01:10:43,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, well LIKE i, said we appreciate. You you're coming with. 1489 01:10:43,360 --> 01:10:46,040 Speaker 2: Us. Man you the best Thing i've ever seen that 1490 01:10:46,280 --> 01:10:48,360 Speaker 2: in my. Life one of the best Players i've ever 1491 01:10:48,439 --> 01:10:48,880 Speaker 2: seen in my. 1492 01:10:49,000 --> 01:10:52,360 Speaker 3: Life and this nice. Dreams you know What i'm. Saying 1493 01:10:52,479 --> 01:10:55,080 Speaker 3: good live bases, everybody and thank you for being you 1494 01:10:55,520 --> 01:10:58,479 Speaker 3: until until your your little lawyer girl who tried to 1495 01:10:58,520 --> 01:11:00,360 Speaker 3: make me sign the. PAPER i ain't signed it, nothing 1496 01:11:03,200 --> 01:11:07,960 Speaker 3: but thank. You you're watching The knuckleheads. Podcast thank you 1497 01:11:08,040 --> 01:11:11,120 Speaker 3: for Being you'll heard you for but just head. Things 1498 01:11:11,200 --> 01:11:14,720 Speaker 3: just always love, us you know What i'm. 1499 01:11:14,720 --> 01:11:18,640 Speaker 1: Saying we got SHOW i love and appreciation man for 1500 01:11:19,600 --> 01:11:25,080 Speaker 1: the big dog back box coming. 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