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Speaker 1: And now Move the Sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks.

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Speaker 1: Oh very merry Christmas from the Move the Sticks family

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Speaker 1: to your family. As we close in on the first

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Speaker 1: games of week seventeen in the NFL, Netflix is back,

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Speaker 1: and boy do we have a terrific duo on Netflix.

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Speaker 1: Before finishing up on Prime Video. We'll start with the

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Speaker 1: Netflix doubleheader, which begins in Washington Dallas. So it's Cowboys

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Speaker 1: and Commanders renewing that NFC East rivalry, two teams whose

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Speaker 1: playoff of hopes are long gone, but that rivalry always plays,

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Speaker 1: and that's gonna be a great one to start on Netflix.

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Speaker 1: And then it'll be the Lions and the Vikings clinging

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Speaker 1: to playoff hopes. There are the Detroit Lions. That will

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Speaker 1: be the second game there on Netflix. And then we'll

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Speaker 1: close out with the Prime Video. So the typical Thursday

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Speaker 1: Luis Bucky Brooks ready to rocket roll here. Let's start

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Speaker 1: to go chronologically here with the first game of the

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Speaker 1: day Cowboys Commanders. I think this is an interesting one,

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Speaker 1: you know, listening to Jerry Jones talk about, you know,

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Speaker 3: I look, I felt like Brian Shaanenhammer did one of

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Speaker 3: from a personnel standpoint, they trade Michael Parsons, like on

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Speaker 2: Doing, and your Trayvon Diggs, who.

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Speaker 3: I know, like Jerry Jones might want to blame that

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Speaker 3: Because offensively, they've done everything thousand yeard rusher, two thousand

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so that's how we'll start the Christmas Day doubleheader

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Speaker 3: They had a turnover on a mesh with with Bo

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Speaker 1: Yeah. So two divisional matchups here for the Broncos to

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Speaker 3: Well, I think, regardless of whether it because what is

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Speaker 3: So even if they win, because the Chargers knock them

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Speaker 2: In these games, the more motivated team wins.

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