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Speaker 1: Welcome to desperately devoted think of us as your favorite

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Speaker 1: neighbors as we chat about life and relationships, all.

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Speaker 2: While we revisit the iconic show Desperate Housewives together.

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Speaker 3: I'm Terry Hatcher, I'm Andrea Bowen, and.

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Speaker 4: I'm Emerson Tenny.

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Speaker 3: Well, welcome back everyone. It's so good to see you.

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Speaker 5: Another exciting week.

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Speaker 1: We are going to be talking about episode twenty two

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Speaker 1: this week, Goodbye for Now.

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Speaker 5: Which aired on May fifteenth, two thousand and five.

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Speaker 1: But before we do, we're getting so close to the

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Speaker 1: end of the season, and it just made me want

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Speaker 1: to reflect on Like, how's this been for you?

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Speaker 3: Andrew?

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Speaker 1: Like rewatching this? And Emerson like, you know, I don't know,

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Speaker 1: have you been surprised by anything about me as your

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Speaker 1: mom like in the show or like in our podcast.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I can't believe we're almost done with the

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Speaker 1: first season. Like what do you guys think?

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Speaker 4: I know, it's crazy. Well, I can go first. I mean,

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Speaker 4: and Andrew, I really want to hear what you are

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Speaker 4: thinking too.

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Speaker 2: I am just I am blown away by both of you.

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Speaker 2: And also I really have not ever I mean, obviously

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Speaker 2: both my parents are actors, and I recognized in the

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Speaker 2: course of this, I have not had the experience of

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Speaker 2: really watching like a full body of work from one

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Speaker 2: of my parents, and obviously we have many seasons to go.

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Speaker 2: But it's really inspiring and it makes me feel so

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Speaker 2: proud of you.

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Speaker 4: I know that's kind of a weird thing for a

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Speaker 4: kid to I'll take it, but you're amazing and you're

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Speaker 4: so funny.

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Speaker 2: And there's parts of it where I feel like I'm

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Speaker 2: just watching the show, and then parts of it were

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Speaker 2: very much and watching my mom, who's a badass, and

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Speaker 2: then parts of it where I see like we resemble

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Speaker 2: each other a little bit more like when you were

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Speaker 2: in your forties and as I'm in my late twenties,

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Speaker 2: and that's.

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Speaker 4: Been really cool.

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Speaker 2: And also like, wait, what like this is like I

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Speaker 2: have like similar mannerisms and yeah, I mean it's.

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Speaker 1: I remember you used to You used to tell me

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Speaker 1: that when you were at your dad's and you would

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Speaker 1: do something silly and some sort of weird nighttime bunky

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Speaker 1: dance move or whatever, that he would say, Oh, that

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Speaker 1: reminds me of your mom.

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Speaker 4: That is true, he.

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Speaker 2: Would say that. And I do think we have some

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Speaker 2: of the same unintentional physical funky, yanky dance. It was

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Speaker 2: unintentional physical mannerisms. Anyway, It's I love.

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Speaker 3: That unintentional physical mannerism.

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Speaker 5: I know it so technical. I'm like, funky dance.

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Speaker 1: Boops, no, no, Andrew, they were unintentional physical mannerism.

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Speaker 2: But it's been it's been a joy, and I am

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Speaker 2: excited for season two and on this episode twenty two,

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Speaker 2: I mean, I know we have one more episode left,

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Speaker 2: but it's already setting up so many cliffhangers and I

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Speaker 2: can't wait to see where it goes.

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Speaker 4: Andrew, how do you feel?

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Speaker 5: I feel like I also can't believe that we are

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Speaker 5: almost at the end of season one. How much has happened.

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Speaker 5: How much I remembered of the show really was confined

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Speaker 5: to the first season, Like, yeah, I know we talk

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Speaker 5: all have been season one. And so I'm really excited,

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Speaker 5: obviously that we have so many more episodes to get

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Speaker 5: those things. And I think it's been a really special

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Speaker 5: thing to get to rewatch our work. I'm so proud

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Speaker 3: I'm just amazing so are you.

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Speaker 5: And I'm so enjoying that part of it and getting

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Speaker 1: I know, I've really enjoyed a lot of the sort

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Speaker 1: I know, I'm trying to make girls. But last night

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Speaker 1: also just to marry Alice in general. So Mary Alice.

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Speaker 1: One of the things I've learn about looking at the

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Speaker 1: from beyond the grave, you know, from beyond life. And

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Speaker 1: and is George killing Rex? And Rex is getting closer

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Speaker 5: Oh, I know, right, And so it gave.

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Speaker 1: These exams couples of things that we don't do, like

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Speaker 1: life is not measured in years, It's measured in what

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Speaker 1: you notice, notice your life while it's happening. Your child's laugh,

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Speaker 1: And that's why I just sort of like and I

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Speaker 5: Oh yeah, you're big on that. You're really big on that.

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Speaker 5: And I think it's super honest and true that the

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Speaker 4: I couldn't agree more.

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Speaker 2: And as Brie says to Rex, you know we're all

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Speaker 4: Like, I could die next week. I could get hit

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Speaker 2: And I love that reminder to be in the present moment,

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Speaker 2: actually makes me think about Susan in this episode, moving

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Speaker 1: And I have to agree. I completely love that scene.

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Speaker 4: What is yeah, well, which I do want to talk about.

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Speaker 1: When is it too soon to move in with your

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Speaker 1: And there are many ways that Susan and I are different,

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Speaker 1: that could have been better, that was not I didn't

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Speaker 4: Were you never gonna raise this concern to me?

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Speaker 1: I remember, I think the last like visceral time I

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Speaker 5: Because you're curious and you have so much to share.

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Speaker 3: I'm wondering.

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Speaker 1: But I actually loved that Nicolette got the attention that

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And one of the things she just brings Edie

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Speaker 1: It says that she know she's like gonna maybe go

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Speaker 3: But when I used to be on them.

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Speaker 1: I used to have this theory that at my real age,

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Speaker 1: I have a glass of wine by myself, my dining

444
00:21:49,640 --> 00:21:52,000
Speaker 1: room table, and I'm going to check out who liked me,

445
00:21:52,320 --> 00:21:54,879
Speaker 1: and I would go look at who like wanted to

446
00:21:54,920 --> 00:21:57,800
Speaker 1: match with me, and they would all be fat, bald,

447
00:21:57,960 --> 00:22:01,760
Speaker 1: and over seventy and I would think, like Edie, I

448
00:22:01,800 --> 00:22:05,000
Speaker 1: would think, are you out of your fucking mind? There

449
00:22:05,040 --> 00:22:06,879
Speaker 1: isn't a chance in hell I would go on a

450
00:22:06,960 --> 00:22:11,159
Speaker 1: date with you, which is so mean and snotty and rude.

451
00:22:11,240 --> 00:22:13,960
Speaker 1: And of course I would never say that to somebody

452
00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:16,320
Speaker 1: in person, but here Edie does.

453
00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:17,960
Speaker 3: She says right to his.

454
00:22:17,920 --> 00:22:21,120
Speaker 1: Face, she says, uh, no, You're way out of your league.

455
00:22:21,200 --> 00:22:23,560
Speaker 1: And I just wondered, like, how have you guys ever

456
00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:25,880
Speaker 1: shut people down that have asked you out that were

457
00:22:25,920 --> 00:22:27,920
Speaker 1: like there was no way you were going out with them?

458
00:22:27,960 --> 00:22:30,040
Speaker 4: Certain well, not like that, I was.

459
00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:32,680
Speaker 5: Gonna say, not like that. I think of primary character

460
00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:34,960
Speaker 5: trait of Edie is that she says exactly what's on

461
00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:38,119
Speaker 5: her mind right and amazing, It's amazing, it's superpower.

462
00:22:38,240 --> 00:22:41,960
Speaker 1: I'm sort of envy, like, like she gets labeled as

463
00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:44,800
Speaker 1: a bit, but I have to say, at this point

464
00:22:44,840 --> 00:22:47,000
Speaker 1: in my life, as a six year old woman who

465
00:22:47,280 --> 00:22:52,200
Speaker 1: craves the ability to just say what I'm thinking without

466
00:22:52,280 --> 00:22:56,639
Speaker 1: an editor. Yeah, in my head would be amazing. I

467
00:22:56,680 --> 00:23:00,360
Speaker 1: mean I I applaud that she does that away.

468
00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:03,200
Speaker 4: That's how she That's how she gets to my favorite line.

469
00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:03,720
Speaker 3: Which is yes.

470
00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:06,120
Speaker 5: Because it's so good.

471
00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:09,359
Speaker 2: She brings the donuts over to Mike and then realize

472
00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:12,520
Speaker 2: that Susan's there, and Susan says, I'm sorry you wasted

473
00:23:12,560 --> 00:23:18,560
Speaker 2: your donuts, and Edie goes not a few choke on them. Yeah.

474
00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:20,840
Speaker 5: I mean again, she's just saying what she's thinking.

475
00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:24,960
Speaker 2: How I didn't mean to take that question from your Andrew.

476
00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:28,320
Speaker 2: How have you shut down like being asked out by

477
00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:29,760
Speaker 2: someone you don't want to go out with. I think

478
00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:32,280
Speaker 2: I am normally just like, oh, I'm so sorry, like

479
00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:34,800
Speaker 2: I'm not really looking for that in my life right now,

480
00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:36,000
Speaker 2: but or like, if.

481
00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:38,600
Speaker 5: I'm sy, this might be a generational thing too, because

482
00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:42,200
Speaker 5: I love that you're just that your response would be

483
00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:45,520
Speaker 5: an honest one. I feel like I would probably usually lie.

484
00:23:45,840 --> 00:23:47,840
Speaker 5: I would say like, oh, I'm not available, you know,

485
00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:50,400
Speaker 5: I'm in a relationship whatever even if that wasn't the case.

486
00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:51,960
Speaker 1: And how would you kick it up to my generation?

487
00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:54,520
Speaker 1: And all I'm thinking about is how I can take

488
00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:57,399
Speaker 1: care of this person's ego yeah, Like I'm not thinking

489
00:23:57,440 --> 00:24:00,560
Speaker 1: about my own needs or wants or desires it. I'm

490
00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:02,800
Speaker 1: just like, I don't want this poor person to walk

491
00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:05,600
Speaker 1: away like feeling bad about themselves. So whatever I say

492
00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:07,680
Speaker 1: has got to like build up their ego, even though

493
00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:10,240
Speaker 1: or I might even go But this is the thing is.

494
00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:12,120
Speaker 5: It comes back to this other thing we were talking about,

495
00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:15,320
Speaker 5: which is time. You know, you're you're Mary Alice inspired

496
00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:19,840
Speaker 5: Instagram quote about what is time? And it's this resource

497
00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:22,840
Speaker 5: we can't get back. And so the idea that we

498
00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:24,880
Speaker 5: would go on the date with the person that we're

499
00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:27,320
Speaker 5: not at all interested in just to preserve there is

500
00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:28,440
Speaker 5: wasting both times.

501
00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:29,320
Speaker 4: Well that's what I.

502
00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:31,680
Speaker 2: Wanted to offer. I said, you know, maybe think about

503
00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:33,320
Speaker 2: it this way. If someone asks you out who you

504
00:24:33,359 --> 00:24:35,919
Speaker 2: aren't interested in, and you go out with them just

505
00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:40,240
Speaker 2: to be quote unquote nice, nice, you're wasting their time.

506
00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:42,320
Speaker 2: They should be going on a date with someone that

507
00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:44,320
Speaker 2: doesn't want to date them. They should be going on

508
00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:45,639
Speaker 2: a date with someone who wants.

509
00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:46,160
Speaker 4: To date them.

510
00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:48,159
Speaker 2: So actually, like the nicest thing you can do for

511
00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:50,080
Speaker 2: everybody is to be honest.

512
00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:53,680
Speaker 5: And then Edie goes back to her construction yard. She

513
00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:55,800
Speaker 5: then tells the guy that he can take her out,

514
00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:58,520
Speaker 5: and then she says favorite line, welcome to the majors.

515
00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:02,320
Speaker 3: So God, for one.

516
00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:04,040
Speaker 1: Day in my life, I would like to have the

517
00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:08,200
Speaker 1: confidence of EATI Bridge. I mean, come on, shouldn't everybody?

518
00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:10,280
Speaker 1: Maybe we should put that on a shirt, have the

519
00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:11,879
Speaker 1: confidence Britta.

520
00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:16,480
Speaker 2: Speaking of sports, Yeah, we have to talk about the

521
00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:22,960
Speaker 2: mini golf scene with with Free and George and George

522
00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:26,600
Speaker 2: getting an erection while Free is whispering in his ear

523
00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:29,080
Speaker 2: behind him while he's trying to like line it up

524
00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:32,199
Speaker 2: to put mini golf. For so many reasons, this like

525
00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:36,119
Speaker 2: somehow hit home for me because I think mini golf

526
00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:37,200
Speaker 2: is like a.

527
00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:39,160
Speaker 4: Cute thing to do on a date.

528
00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:43,800
Speaker 2: And two I think ears are like a very sexy zone.

529
00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:46,399
Speaker 2: Like I get that that is a big turn on.

530
00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:50,480
Speaker 2: Obviously I'm not a guy, so I thank God. I

531
00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:53,480
Speaker 2: really actually feel so much for my male friends who

532
00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:57,960
Speaker 2: like can't hide that feeling. Like a certain point, it's

533
00:25:57,960 --> 00:25:59,480
Speaker 2: a physiological reaction.

534
00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:02,520
Speaker 1: I mean we sort of talked about that with James

535
00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:07,080
Speaker 1: Denton a little bit, right, It's true sense, Yeah, if

536
00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:09,359
Speaker 1: it happens, and then, like he said, if it doesn't happen,

537
00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:10,399
Speaker 1: that's even worse.

538
00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:14,359
Speaker 5: Yeah, they have. They have a lot of feelings about

539
00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:16,560
Speaker 5: their boners and whether or not you know when they

540
00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:17,040
Speaker 5: show up.

541
00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:20,080
Speaker 1: But I will agree with you this whole like ear

542
00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:23,600
Speaker 1: neck area, that's a that's a really that's a really

543
00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:24,960
Speaker 1: a good spot.

544
00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:25,280
Speaker 3: Yeah.

545
00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:29,399
Speaker 1: So the fact that Bree was sort of careless to

546
00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:32,520
Speaker 1: the idea that she could do that and she wasn't

547
00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:33,680
Speaker 1: crossing a line.

548
00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:36,080
Speaker 3: I feel like, even though George is.

549
00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:41,000
Speaker 1: A complete nutjob evil guy, I do feel like Free

550
00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:44,480
Speaker 1: lost a sense of almost in a selfish way, lost

551
00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:46,720
Speaker 1: a sense of reality of what you can get away

552
00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:47,480
Speaker 1: with as a friend.

553
00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:50,240
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think she took it too far. It's not

554
00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:54,040
Speaker 5: you know what you're doing. You know, she knew that,

555
00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:57,000
Speaker 5: even if what she had concocted in her head was

556
00:26:57,000 --> 00:26:58,400
Speaker 5: that she was just trying to get him to mess

557
00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:00,960
Speaker 5: up his shot, Like, come on, I don't buy it.

558
00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:03,760
Speaker 5: I don't buy it. He gets real creepy in this

559
00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:06,480
Speaker 5: episode though, breaking into the house and taking pictures of

560
00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:08,399
Speaker 5: the launder or not launcher, right, but taking pictures of

561
00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:11,640
Speaker 5: her underwear laid out on the bed, Like I yeah, yeah,

562
00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:12,080
Speaker 5: but it.

563
00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:14,800
Speaker 3: Was really great. Didn't you think the script was great?

564
00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:17,720
Speaker 1: Like? I really feel like in again, like reflecting on

565
00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:20,080
Speaker 1: the season and we're now almost.

566
00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:20,440
Speaker 5: At the end of it.

567
00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:23,800
Speaker 1: I mean, the writing's really been terrific. I know, I

568
00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:28,840
Speaker 1: feel like I recalled some issues with like we wouldn't

569
00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:31,240
Speaker 1: get the script until the very very like almost the

570
00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:32,440
Speaker 1: morning of filming it.

571
00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:34,480
Speaker 5: There was especially towards the end of the season.

572
00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:38,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, like the writing was definitely late and definitely behind.

573
00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:43,000
Speaker 1: But that said, I also do remember the actors, the crew,

574
00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:47,240
Speaker 1: the prop department, the director, the lighting people, like everybody

575
00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:49,840
Speaker 1: just basically pulled it out of their ass and got

576
00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:53,000
Speaker 1: the show made, you know, But we did in the end,

577
00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:55,520
Speaker 1: even if it was late, we had some pretty great

578
00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:56,400
Speaker 1: writing happening.

579
00:27:56,560 --> 00:27:58,840
Speaker 5: I also used to go to that many golf course

580
00:27:58,840 --> 00:27:59,320
Speaker 5: that they were.

581
00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:02,159
Speaker 4: At, wait, which was that the one in the.

582
00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:06,000
Speaker 5: Castle Park one, Yeah, over over in the valley, And

583
00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:08,199
Speaker 5: we used to go early on Sunday mornings as a family.

584
00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:11,640
Speaker 5: So I'm sure I was there some Sunday, probably right

585
00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:12,679
Speaker 5: around when they filmed that.

586
00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:14,200
Speaker 4: For real, Oh my god, that's hilarious.

587
00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:16,400
Speaker 5: Blow in your ear, one in my ear.

588
00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:19,720
Speaker 2: I was gonna say, there is I mean in regards

589
00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:22,639
Speaker 2: to George breaking into Brion Rex's house. But then also

590
00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:25,480
Speaker 2: we have the girls trying to have the intervention with Susan.

591
00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:29,520
Speaker 2: We have Susan kind of snooping through Martha's journal and

592
00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:33,000
Speaker 2: following Mike, which has a hill area with Julie. Of course,

593
00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:37,600
Speaker 2: another amazing parenting moment, but I really and then we

594
00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:41,840
Speaker 2: have Lynette and Tom at work, Lynette following Tom to work,

595
00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:44,720
Speaker 2: and this kind of general theme throughout the episode of meddaling,

596
00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:49,640
Speaker 2: like people meddling in other people's spaces, And I was curious,

597
00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:54,920
Speaker 2: especially in regards to Tom and Lynette, do you identify

598
00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:58,600
Speaker 2: as someone who is a meddler, like your partner visiting

599
00:28:58,640 --> 00:28:59,120
Speaker 2: you at work?

600
00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:01,680
Speaker 4: Does that feel like a ya? I know for me that.

601
00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:04,680
Speaker 2: Feels like a hard nay. I like write in coffee

602
00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:06,960
Speaker 2: shops a lot, which obviously is a public space. But

603
00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:09,680
Speaker 2: I once had someone I was dating kind of show

604
00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:12,160
Speaker 2: up spur of the moment to a coffee shop while

605
00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:13,280
Speaker 2: I was writing and be like.

606
00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:16,320
Speaker 4: Hi, I'm here, Like aren't you glad I'm here? And

607
00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:17,360
Speaker 4: I was pissed.

608
00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:19,240
Speaker 2: I was like, no, I'm not glad at all. Like

609
00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:21,600
Speaker 2: now I'm completely out of my flow. I'm thinking about

610
00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:24,200
Speaker 2: taking care of your feelings when I'm in my own

611
00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:27,239
Speaker 2: individual time, like get the hell out, like what are

612
00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:28,960
Speaker 2: you doing? I felt like such an invasion.

613
00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:33,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, like on sets in Hollywood, there's a

614
00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:36,040
Speaker 1: lot of like stuff where agents want to come, like

615
00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:38,320
Speaker 1: your agent wants to come. And I don't know if

616
00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:39,720
Speaker 1: they just want to be a part of it or

617
00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:42,160
Speaker 1: if they're also like trying to show you that they

618
00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:45,320
Speaker 1: support you. But I always felt like, no, don't come

619
00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:47,960
Speaker 1: at please don't come like it makes me feel like

620
00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:49,120
Speaker 1: I have to be a host.

621
00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:50,600
Speaker 3: Yeah to the people.

622
00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:52,840
Speaker 1: That come visit me at work, right, And I get

623
00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:55,320
Speaker 1: it when it's like a hit show and like you've

624
00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:57,440
Speaker 1: got friends in town and it's so exciting to go

625
00:29:57,480 --> 00:30:00,760
Speaker 1: to Osteria Lane and I would try to facilitate that

626
00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:05,000
Speaker 1: as much as I could, Like in general, I'm there

627
00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:07,960
Speaker 1: to work. I'm there to work, get the best work,

628
00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:10,840
Speaker 1: do it at the fastest pace, and then get everybody

629
00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:13,480
Speaker 1: to be able to go home Like that's and so

630
00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:17,680
Speaker 1: any It is interesting when people think that your workspace

631
00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:19,440
Speaker 1: turns into like a social space.

632
00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:23,760
Speaker 5: Yeah, I will say when it is specific to their storyline.

633
00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:26,320
Speaker 5: I think that showing up to work is a boundary

634
00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:28,720
Speaker 5: that you should discuss in your relationship. If that's ever

635
00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:32,280
Speaker 5: okay to imprompt to show up, you know, sporadically or

636
00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:36,080
Speaker 5: But I think in this case, the bigger metal is

637
00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:42,760
Speaker 5: Lynette is messing with Tom's potential professional ascension, you know,

638
00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:47,560
Speaker 5: I mean she is hugely interfering in his professional life. Now,

639
00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:50,360
Speaker 5: her reasons for doing so might be valid, right, I

640
00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:53,200
Speaker 5: can't have you going further away this job would mean

641
00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:56,560
Speaker 5: less time at home. We need you more around. I

642
00:30:56,600 --> 00:30:58,280
Speaker 5: want you to be more of a presence, such as

643
00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:01,080
Speaker 5: a husband and a father. But the thing is is that,

644
00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:05,160
Speaker 5: regardless of the reasoning behind it, the meddling with someone's

645
00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:09,160
Speaker 5: capabilities of rising up in their ranks is a really

646
00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:11,480
Speaker 5: big betrayal. Also, would be so hard for me to

647
00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:13,360
Speaker 5: get over if someone did that to me. Me too.

648
00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:16,000
Speaker 2: And that's a conversation that like she should have with him,

649
00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:18,320
Speaker 2: I don't want you going away more And then he

650
00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:20,960
Speaker 2: will make a decision and that will inform the type

651
00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:23,600
Speaker 2: of relationship they have or not, which actually circling all

652
00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:27,560
Speaker 2: the way back to when is too soon to move

653
00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:30,600
Speaker 2: in in a relationship or what is the good time.

654
00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:33,040
Speaker 2: I think there are certain things in a relationship that

655
00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:36,800
Speaker 2: you just simply cannot know about someone without time, without

656
00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:39,720
Speaker 2: seeing them in circumstances without seeing them get offered a

657
00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:42,120
Speaker 2: promotion and either turn it down or not turn it down,

658
00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:46,160
Speaker 2: without seeing how they handle a loss or what, and.

659
00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:48,520
Speaker 3: Without seeing if they drop their dirty socks all over them.

660
00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:52,840
Speaker 2: Exactly sure, And I kind of think at least you

661
00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:53,280
Speaker 2: need to.

662
00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:55,240
Speaker 4: Be with someone for a year, having done it.

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Speaker 1: Before you move, before you move in, okay, and then

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Speaker 1: you're going to learn more stuff in that year. But

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Speaker 1: I agree with you because the whole first year you

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Speaker 1: have rose colored glasses on whether you want to believe

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Speaker 1: it or not you do, and it really takes at

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Speaker 1: least a year for those rose colored glasses to sort

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Speaker 1: of tint away. So in wrapping this up, we also

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Speaker 1: had Carlos and Gabby. Gabby finds out that it really

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Speaker 1: was Carlos all along who changed the birth control pills.

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Speaker 1: She ends up, you know, offering him a lifeline but

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Speaker 1: in exchange for he will be the one when he

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Speaker 1: gets out of jail changing all the diapers for the

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Speaker 1: next eighteen years.

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Speaker 4: So she says, you're not the father.

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Speaker 2: And then we have and I have to say, this

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Speaker 2: is fucking killing the storyline of Carlos being a continual

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Speaker 2: accidental homophobe behate. Crimer is just like I actually mean,

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Speaker 2: it is cracking me up, however unpolitically or however politically

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Speaker 2: incorrect it may be.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it is.

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Speaker 4: It's quite funny.

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Speaker 1: And yeah, to come back to it, and he and

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Speaker 1: the characters just like, I need a lawyer.

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Speaker 5: But you know what that and that lesson of everything

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Speaker 5: kind of you know, will come back to you. So

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Speaker 5: be mindful of the consequences of your actions and your choices.

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Speaker 5: Because her saying to him, Gabby saying to Carlos, well,

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Speaker 5: you're going to be doing all of the middle of

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Speaker 5: the night day for changes. You're going to be the

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Speaker 5: one bottle feeding. You're going to be the one He's like,

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Speaker 5: oh shit, I didn't think about that part, you know.

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Speaker 5: And so and I think fair for Gabby. Fair for

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Speaker 5: Gabby to say, you know what, you controlled my body

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Speaker 5: and now I'm going to control your life.

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Speaker 3: I like it.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, careful of what you put out into the world.

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Speaker 2: Talk to each other directly as opposed to try to

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Speaker 2: meddle in other things.

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Speaker 5: And I just want to say, because we've we've highlighted

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Speaker 5: Mary Alice's presence as such, her guidance, her wisdom throughout

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Speaker 5: the season, as such a beautiful part of this show

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Speaker 5: that makes it so unique and special. And another thing

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Speaker 5: is that at the very end of the episode and

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Speaker 5: I wrote this down on a piece of paper to

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Speaker 5: put on my fridge for Josh and I to reflect

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Speaker 5: on as we enter parenthood, she says nothing is forever,

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Speaker 5: and the time comes when we must say goodbye to

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Speaker 5: the world we knew, When the familiar has departed and

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Speaker 5: the unfamiliar has taken its place, all any of us

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Speaker 5: can really do is say hello and welcome.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I wrote that down to It's great, I wrote,

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Speaker 1: Alice Young, I think you that applies to life, to aging,

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Speaker 1: to changes. You know you, I told somebody the other day, like,

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Speaker 1: you can't be resentful as you age into your life

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Speaker 1: about what you're missing, what is taken away, or what

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Speaker 1: you lose. You can only say hello to what can

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Speaker 1: be new and what is the potential. And that we're

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Speaker 1: gonna say hello to the season finale next tek.

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Speaker 3: Yeah and uh, and we hope you enjoyed this.

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Speaker 1: And because as always we're desperately devoted to you.

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Speaker 2: Me