Speaker 1: Hi, everybody. Welcome to the Renee Stubbs Tennis podcast. Caitlin
Speaker 1: and I have finally figured out how to talk to
Speaker 1: each other on the other side of the world and
Speaker 1: make the audio decent, and we know that our listeners
Speaker 1: appreciate this. But what a couple of weeks we've had, Caitlyn.
Speaker 1: I am currently in Greece, and I'm not sad about it.
Speaker 1: It's been a long month or so and I thought
Speaker 1: i'd take myself out for a few days enjoy the beach.
Speaker 1: And you are currently still in New York.
Speaker 2: I am in New York.
Speaker 3: I did get a chance to get away to the
Speaker 3: Hamptons this weekend, where I played in the championships at
Speaker 3: wimbled Dawn my friend dance tennis tournament on grass for
Speaker 3: her birthday, which was amazing. I won it with my
Speaker 3: son Peter. But it was a far cry from Southwest nineteen,
Speaker 3: which is where you were for quite a while. So
Speaker 3: take us there. It's been a week since we chatted.
Speaker 3: You played the Legends, I saw some tweeers and I
Speaker 3: did some incredible pyrotechnics on the court from you. What
Speaker 3: was it like being there this year?
Speaker 1: Hot? Real hot? You know? I don't know about you guys,
Speaker 1: if you've ever been to London or England in general.
Speaker 1: But it's not built for the heat. There's these things
Speaker 1: called air conditioners. They don't really exist there. We had
Speaker 1: to have some brought into our apartment. So it was
Speaker 1: very hot. But we'll take it because it's synonymous with
Speaker 1: bad weather and rain, so we'll take the heat over
Speaker 1: that any day. It was in the mid thirties, which
Speaker 1: is like above lest like ninety five degrees pretty much
Speaker 1: every day, high nineties almost every day. It was really
Speaker 1: really hot for the players, so us oldies, we were flaking,
Speaker 1: some of us. But I will say this, Richard Krychek,
Speaker 1: who I played against in the Mix, who of course
Speaker 1: won the singles many many years ago, had open heart
Speaker 1: surgery about sometime last year at the end of last year,
Speaker 1: and he played in the Mix this year, and it
Speaker 1: was an absolute joy to obviously see him alive and
Speaker 1: thriving and out back on the tennis court. And we know,
Speaker 1: obviously he had such an amazing career and a winner
Speaker 1: of the Wembledon title, so it was nice to play
Speaker 1: against him, you know, somebody that is about my age,
Speaker 1: and so to see him out there doing great things,
Speaker 1: but we got absolutely smoked by Tommy Hassen Martina Hingis, who,
Speaker 1: without a doubt should just still be playing in the
Speaker 1: main draw of the mixed doubles, if not the singles
Speaker 1: for the both of them, because they're both in unbelievable
Speaker 1: shape and they hit the ball. They never didn't miss
Speaker 1: a ball, and we were like we are long time retired,
Speaker 1: me and Fabrie Sontro. We are fun. We can volley,
Speaker 1: but you know, the standard was a little too high
Speaker 1: for us in the first match. But having said all that,
Speaker 1: it's such a delight to constantly go back every year.
Speaker 1: I'm so lucky. I'm so grateful that the All Engld
Speaker 1: Club invites me back to play in the Invitational, and
Speaker 1: please do it again next year. I know that I'm
Speaker 1: going to get aged out at some point, but until
Speaker 1: that happens, I just I love being out in the courts,
Speaker 1: and yeah, it's all always a great experience. But that aside,
Speaker 1: let's get into the main part of why we're here,
Speaker 1: which is talk about the two champions and what they
Speaker 1: were able to accomplish. And there's just so many storylines,
Speaker 1: there's so many, so many matches that I want to
Speaker 1: talk about. Clearly, we spoke about the first week of
Speaker 1: the tournament when we spoke, but Caitlin just overall, I mean,
Speaker 1: where do you even want to start. Let's start with
Speaker 1: the ladies. I guess the semi final match with Mahovah
Speaker 1: and Coco. Incredible third set, just drama filled.
Speaker 3: I love that matchup. I think it's a really interesting
Speaker 3: contrast in styles. Obviously, as anyone who listens to the
Speaker 3: show knows, we are massive Carolina Mahova fans in addition
Speaker 3: to being of course massive Cocoa gart fans. And you know,
Speaker 3: Mukova plays the most complete style of tennis on the
Speaker 3: women's tour, and she has basically since the abdication. Maybe
Speaker 3: you could say of ash body a couple of years ago.
Speaker 3: She's got all the tools, she's got slice, she's got
Speaker 3: an incredible net game. We saw her play very brave.
Speaker 3: There was a diving volley at one point in that
Speaker 3: third set tiebreak. You know, a lot of people, I
Speaker 3: think a little disappointed that Coco didn't go through to
Speaker 3: the finals. For me, I was kind of shocked. She
Speaker 3: made it this far in a good way, and I
Speaker 3: thought she battled and played great and I liked that
Speaker 3: she went for the dropper on match point, even though
Speaker 3: she didn't get it, because you got to play bold
Speaker 3: tennis to win a championship match, and and you know,
Speaker 3: I think she could definitely hold her head high, you know,
Speaker 3: after this Fortnite. So for me, that probably was the
Speaker 3: match of the tournament, just because it had the best storyline,
Speaker 3: It had the best contrast, it had the most dramatic moments.
Speaker 3: But I also wasn't really mad at the final. I
Speaker 3: thought it delivered in a pretty holistic way, even though
Speaker 3: I was not terribly surprised that Noskova had had more
Speaker 3: game than Mukova did.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, look, there was so many great matchups
Speaker 1: in that half of the draw up the top with
Speaker 1: the women's right. You know, I spoke about pagoul I thought,
Speaker 1: you know, had a real chance to win the tournament,
Speaker 1: and she went out with a little bit of a
Speaker 1: surprise to Cocoa Golf. As you said, Caitlin, you know,
Speaker 1: I think even Coco even though she was disappointed to
Speaker 1: lose that semi final, having match point and oh what
Speaker 1: a match point, which I'm going to get to after this,
Speaker 1: and I'm shocked. You said you were surprised and happy
Speaker 1: to see her go for a drop shot that is
Speaker 1: definitely not the shot I would have chosen on that shot.
Speaker 1: But having said that, you know, her getting through and
Speaker 1: beating Pagola in three sets after losing the first set
Speaker 1: from me was a great sort of indicator for her
Speaker 1: to once again just get through matches when it doesn't
Speaker 1: look like she's going to do it right. Like everyone
Speaker 1: predicted that Pegoula would probably beat her on a grass court.
Speaker 1: Pegoula comes in playing well on grass, Coco hadn't had
Speaker 1: the results and you know, to lose a first set,
Speaker 1: and she definitely stepped it up. She did not miss
Speaker 1: a lot of fourhands, she was very aggressive on the
Speaker 1: serve and her nerves held up when it counted against Pegoula.
Speaker 1: And then of course subsequently we see the match up
Speaker 1: with Mukhova, after Muhova you know, takes out Osaka. So
Speaker 1: everyone was sort of thinking that maybe Osaka, after being Sabalalnka,
Speaker 1: would be the one, and she's had all the experience
Speaker 1: and winning major titles and is this the year she's
Speaker 1: going to maybe get to a final of Wimbledon. Finally, nope,
Speaker 1: she gets to take out by Macova in a great
Speaker 1: match from Mukhova. I mean that was for me, you know,
Speaker 1: arguably sort of the big match up to see if
Speaker 1: Muhovah could step up to the big time in these
Speaker 1: moments and to beat her in straight sets at first
Speaker 1: set tiebreak, I think, sort of let everyone know, Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm I'm the player to beat in this section of
Speaker 1: the draw. Maybe, But there were so many great storylines
Speaker 1: up the hulf of that draw with Mokhovah, with Osaka,
Speaker 1: with Pulgoula, with Gough and then of course GoF and
Speaker 1: Muhova gets to the semi final and that semi final.
Speaker 1: I mean, I can tell you, Caitlin, there was not
Speaker 1: going to be a loser in that match because they
Speaker 1: are both so respected and so liked with Coco and
Speaker 1: with Carolina. But the people watching that match outside of
Speaker 1: the center court in the players area were losing their
Speaker 1: minds watching that match. I mean I was sitting behind
Speaker 1: you know, I was sitting in front of Fabrie Santro,
Speaker 1: and I was like every player you can imagine was
Speaker 1: sitting there watching this match. It was clapping going on.
Speaker 1: There was like unbelievable moments where people couldn't believe it.
Speaker 1: And of course that dropshot that Coco attempted to hit
Speaker 1: on match point. The thing that I think about there
Speaker 1: is the drop shot had worked pretty well for her
Speaker 1: in the match because she was surprising Mukhova, who kind
Speaker 1: of wasn't expecting to be moved forward. But I'm quite
Speaker 1: certain that if Coca go back and hit that forehand
Speaker 1: inside out, down the line and come into the net
Speaker 1: where she had been so successful in the match, she
Speaker 1: would do that again. That was an ill advised time
Speaker 1: to hit that drop shot, only because Caitlin if she'd
Speaker 1: hit it over, which she won the point eighty percent
Speaker 1: of the time, probably, But you don't have the feel
Speaker 1: on that point like that. It's so hard to hit
Speaker 1: a drop shot when you are absolutely shitting your hand,
Speaker 1: shitting yourself. And that was the time not to try
Speaker 1: and go for it because it was such a big point.
Speaker 1: Hitting it would have just been better. But you never know,
Speaker 1: You'll never know it didn't go over.
Speaker 2: Let me ask you a question.
Speaker 3: I think, regardless of what kind of fourhand she hits
Speaker 3: on that shot, does she have a better shot at
Speaker 3: winning Wimbledon against Linda and Naskova.
Speaker 2: I think she does. I actually think she wins that
Speaker 2: match up.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's an interesting way of thinking about it. You know,
Speaker 1: Coco has the ability to sort of frustrate those types
Speaker 1: of players. And by those types of players, I mean
Speaker 1: big hitters, right, big ball strikers that sort of rely
Speaker 1: on I wouldn't say they rely on short balls, and
Speaker 1: they rely on hitting winners. Coco is the epitome of
Speaker 1: getting one more ball back in the court. And so
Speaker 1: if Miskova had gotten a little tight, which she clearly
Speaker 1: did in the second set, is Coco the type of
Speaker 1: player that would frustrate and probably beat Linda Noskova. Maybe,
Speaker 1: But you know, I hate speculating on that because we'll
Speaker 1: never know, because Linda Noskova could have stepped up and
Speaker 1: absolutely pummeled Coco second serve. She could have pummeled the
Speaker 1: ball to her forehand. She could have got short ball
Speaker 1: after short ball on that side. You just never know.
Speaker 1: Because Moscova also possesses a game that Coco doesn't necessarily
Speaker 1: like if she's on, which is hitting the ball huge.
Speaker 1: So it's kind of like a double edged sword. If
Speaker 1: Moskova gets a little tight, yes, Coco is the biggest
Speaker 1: nightmare for her. But you know Coco might lay an
Speaker 1: egg as well and not hit the ball well enough
Speaker 1: in Nosco could hit her off the court like Yu
Speaker 1: Stremskit did last year. So I don't know. As I said,
Speaker 1: I hate speculating. What I saw was a terrific final
Speaker 1: in the end.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I really hope we see more of Mukhova. I
Speaker 3: think a lot of us were super excited to see
Speaker 3: her get to the final of the French A couple
Speaker 3: of years ago. She lost the Yagis Schwantek and a
Speaker 3: pretty nervy, not super confident performance. I was delighted that
Speaker 3: she settled in played brave. Obviously, Noscova got a little
Speaker 3: tight in that second set after kind of storming out
Speaker 3: to a six' to two what was it five to two,
Speaker 3: LEAD i mean it looked like it was going real
Speaker 3: fast and things were pretty doom and gloom over On mukhova's,
Speaker 3: side and then she kind of kept chipping. Away they
Speaker 3: had a really long game or two right at five
Speaker 3: two and five to, three and THEN i was just
Speaker 3: really excited to see the caliber of the exchanges and
Speaker 3: the rallies get. Better the points were more thoughtfully. Constructed
Speaker 3: it looked, like you, know we'd sort of settled. IN
Speaker 3: i would love to use this opportunity to SAY i
Speaker 3: really do, wish and we've talked about, it you, know
Speaker 3: from time to. TIME i really do wish the women
Speaker 3: would play best of five in these last couple of,
Speaker 3: matches just BECAUSE i think we'd get a higher caliber.
Speaker 3: Final we'd get a guaranteed sort of contrast in dynamics
Speaker 3: a lot of times in these. Finals and we saw
Speaker 3: it obviously last year with Amandais, sumova who was just
Speaker 3: totally overwhelmed by the moment and didn't get a. Game you,
Speaker 3: know they happened too. QUICK i was very thankful this
Speaker 3: went three AND i thought we got a quality. Final
Speaker 3: BUT i really do think at this point nobody plays
Speaker 3: best of five in week. One maybe everybody plays best
Speaker 3: of five from let's say the quarters on or maybe the.
Speaker 3: SEMISON i think that that's a good way to address
Speaker 3: a lot of these parody for pay, conversations AND i
Speaker 3: think it's a good way to make sure that we,
Speaker 3: get you, know we get high caliber finals.
Speaker 2: Matches what do you think about?
Speaker 1: That, WELL i don't know who it was that brought this,
Speaker 1: up BUT i think maybe a great mixture of that
Speaker 1: BECAUSE i don't agree with, that because, listen you And
Speaker 1: i've been talking about getting rid of best of five.
Speaker 1: FOREVER i think a sort of a balance of that
Speaker 1: could be best of four if it goes two, sets
Speaker 1: or we play a ten point, tiebreak which is basically
Speaker 1: the same.
Speaker 3: Thing, anyway you're just throwing in a entirely new format
Speaker 3: that nobody plays on any tour or.
Speaker 2: WHATSOEVER i love. That.
Speaker 1: YEAH i, mean if we're talking about women's, tennis and
Speaker 1: no offense to the women or the, men the women
Speaker 1: are going to be playing longer. MATCHES i just feel
Speaker 1: like they will play longer matches because they don't have
Speaker 1: the big. SERVES i, mean you saw the men's they're
Speaker 1: playing long rallies now as, well but they do have huge,
Speaker 1: serves and they win a lot of points on their,
Speaker 1: serves particularly on. Grass but you know you're not going
Speaker 1: to see that quick of a point all the. Time
Speaker 1: it's certainly not going to see it on. Clay with the,
Speaker 1: guys they're going to be playing forty ball rallies every single.
Speaker 1: Time SO i just think that if we're going to
Speaker 1: do it for, both let's do it for. Both let's
Speaker 1: do it two sets to all in a ten tipe.
Speaker 1: BREAK i, mean what's the difference when someone, says, well come,
Speaker 1: on that's sold on a. Second you, know we don't
Speaker 1: want to finish a match with a ten point we
Speaker 1: do if it gets to six. All at every major
Speaker 1: in the fifth set we play a ten point type.
Speaker 1: Break so what's the difference instead of making everyone go
Speaker 1: through another? Set Which i'm at tennis. PURISTS i love watching.
Speaker 1: TENNIS i love watching great, tennis BUT i don't want
Speaker 1: to see it for five hours and fifteen minutes like
Speaker 1: we had to for the quarterfinals With novak And, faa
Speaker 1: and arguably that Fucks. Novak for the next match Against,
Speaker 1: sinner he was. DEAD i, Mean yannick played the most
Speaker 1: perfect match in the semifinal Against. NOVAK i was, THERE
Speaker 1: i was, LIVE i watched, IT i watched it in,
Speaker 1: person And novak just was a step slow and? Everything,
Speaker 1: now is? It because he thirty?
Speaker 2: Seven?
Speaker 1: Probably Is yanik the best player in the world when he's. On,
Speaker 1: Probably but if it goes five and a half, hours
Speaker 1: if he doesn't go five and a half hours in
Speaker 1: the previous match and it goes maybe four, hours does
Speaker 1: he have a little bit extra in his? Tank probably
Speaker 1: two days. Later SO i don't. KNOW i think that
Speaker 1: there's one way to get around this and we can
Speaker 1: satisfy everybody from the. SEMIS i would like to see quarters,
Speaker 1: maybe But semi's. On you play best of, five and
Speaker 1: you play best of four with a ten point. Tiebreak
Speaker 1: what's the. Difference what a great culmination of four amazing
Speaker 1: sets to? Go, okay here we, go let's go ten
Speaker 1: points for the.
Speaker 3: MATCH i, mean you, KNOW i like an incredibly pointy
Speaker 3: end of a, match AND i think a tie break
Speaker 3: is a fun way to do. It AND i think
Speaker 3: that's Why mukova And goff's tie break was so. EXCITING
Speaker 3: i do want to shout out a couple of other
Speaker 3: really great. Storylines obviously you Mentioned Naimo osaka went out
Speaker 3: after taking Out. Sablenka neimeosaka had a fantastic. TOURNAMENT i
Speaker 3: hope she holds her head. High she was, fit she was,
Speaker 3: fun she was, smiling she was blasting winners off both.
Speaker 3: Wings her serve was. Incredible i'm really excited for her
Speaker 3: because she looks like a new. PERSON i know she
Speaker 3: has a new team members in terms of her agent and.
Speaker 3: Representation she's JUST i couldn't be happier for tennis that
Speaker 3: we have an older version of her back but now
Speaker 3: with you, know sort of wisdom and a lot of
Speaker 3: experience under her. Belt and, YEAH i think the other
Speaker 3: WOMEN i want to shout out Are Yelena astapenko for
Speaker 3: winning a mixed doubles. TROPHY i think it was the
Speaker 3: only title she hasn't won at the pro. Level she's
Speaker 3: won everything, else including girls. Titles she's won a, Doubles
Speaker 3: she's won a Singles Grand. Slam she had never want
Speaker 3: to mix Qualifying hall Of fame Listen elene asked to
Speaker 3: Pinco hall Of fame. Speech i'm in the front.
Speaker 2: Row Kiki.
Speaker 3: Maladenovich we haven't talked about her very, much but she
Speaker 3: was a stallwrot on The Double store for a, while
Speaker 3: playing With Karri garcia among other. Players she got her
Speaker 3: First wimbledon doubles title with A chinese. PLAYER i was
Speaker 3: really excited For. KIKI i like when when the players
Speaker 3: you've you've heard about for years they kind of dip
Speaker 3: and dodge and dive and duck and, dodge and then
Speaker 3: they come back and hold, trophies and you, know as per,
Speaker 3: usual the women are doing a ton of hard work
Speaker 3: holding up their half of the. Sky because women's, tennis
Speaker 3: as we have, noted is, compelling it's filled with, characters
Speaker 3: it's got absolutely incredible, rivalries and it's it's not short of.
Speaker 2: Drama.
Speaker 3: ATTENTION i do have two more questions for you before
Speaker 3: we shove off into the men's side of. Things where
Speaker 3: Does Arena seblenka go from? Here, well apparently in The
Speaker 3: Greek islands you're going to run out that's where she. Went,
Speaker 3: NO i don't THINK i, am BUT i have seen
Speaker 3: Her instagram and she did mention that that's what she
Speaker 3: was going to be doing Post. Wimbledon on a serious,
Speaker 3: note where does she go from? Here she goes to
Speaker 3: her favorite, Surface she goes to hard. COURT i don't
Speaker 3: think she's panicking. Yet we'll see how she does on
Speaker 3: the hard. Courts that's the real. Tell clearly we know
Speaker 3: it's her best surface and it has to be a.
Speaker 3: READJUSTMENT i don't know what's going. ON i don't know
Speaker 3: where the lack of confidence is coming.
Speaker 1: From she was absolutely hit and blown off the court
Speaker 1: By Naomi osaka in that. Match so did she play Pauly?
Speaker 1: No Did naomi play? Fantastic? Yes SO i don't know
Speaker 1: where she goes from. HERE i think THAT i don't
Speaker 1: think her, team she or anyone in the tennis world
Speaker 1: is super panicked about that, yet because is she the
Speaker 1: favorite still going Into cincinnati and you, Know toronto and
Speaker 1: whatever she chooses to play on the hard court and
Speaker 1: of course THE Us. Open, yes there are some questions
Speaker 1: to be answered on her from her when it comes
Speaker 1: to having not won a major title this year as
Speaker 1: a number one player in the, world and so there's
Speaker 1: a lot of a lot of pressure on her shoulders
Speaker 1: to be able to do that at THE Us. Open so,
Speaker 1: yeah so we'll see how she comes back from this
Speaker 1: little trip To greece and reinvents her game a little
Speaker 1: bit on the hard. Court but those questions certainly need
Speaker 1: to be. Answered, Yeah so let's take a little, break come,
Speaker 1: back and we're going to talk about The fellers when
Speaker 1: we get back up and. Break, Okay, So, caitlin you,
Speaker 1: know we were pretty enamored with the women's. Draw it
Speaker 1: was awesome and AS i, said AND i don't want
Speaker 1: to toot my own, horn But noscov did Beat Mattie,
Speaker 1: Keys AND i, said whoever wins that match will be
Speaker 1: in the. Final AND i also may have said that
Speaker 1: the person that comes through that section will maybe, win
Speaker 1: because whoever comes through the top half of the, draw
Speaker 1: you never see the person that comes through the toughest
Speaker 1: part almost win the. Tournament it happens so much and
Speaker 1: So but on the men's, side arguably the toughest section
Speaker 1: was won by the best player in the, world which
Speaker 1: Was Anik sinner who went. Through of Course Novak, djokovic
Speaker 1: who we all thought was probably the one player that
Speaker 1: maybe had the mental capacity and the game to win on.
Speaker 1: Grass but a little shout out to our Little Arthur.
Speaker 1: FAIRY i, mean come, on this guy grows up In
Speaker 1: wimbledon five ten minutes from the tennis courts and makes
Speaker 1: the semi finals Of wimbledon and beat some pretty incredible,
Speaker 1: players including of Course Grigor, dimitrov who probably would like
Speaker 1: to have that match back after being up a break
Speaker 1: in the fourth set, twice not, once but, twice and
Speaker 1: didn't cause out that set and ended up losing in five.
Speaker 1: Sets and then he just Smokes koboli in the, quarters
Speaker 1: and then you, know just came up against a buzzsaw In,
Speaker 1: zverev who really played well in this. Tournament right through
Speaker 1: to the, final but a little shout out To. Ferry
Speaker 1: his ranking is going to shoot, up AND i doubt
Speaker 1: he's going to need a wild card Into wimbledon for
Speaker 1: a very long time after that.
Speaker 2: Performance do you think we'll be Seeing Arthur?
Speaker 1: Faery, yeah he kind of reminds me of A Sebastian
Speaker 1: grojon or like A fabrice Soun. Toy he kind of
Speaker 1: reminds me of A french, player because maybe because it's
Speaker 1: the fact that he's, little AND i played Against grojeon
Speaker 1: in the last match of my invitation AND i played
Speaker 1: With fabrees.
Speaker 2: In my fairy is Also, french so that's probably.
Speaker 1: Why well there you. Go and Also Arnold colomont remember,
Speaker 1: Him so he kind of reminds me of those. Players
Speaker 1: not a lot of, firepower very strategically smart on the,
Speaker 1: court very good player on, grass knows how to come
Speaker 1: into the, net beautiful, volleyer great, anticipator pretty good surve
Speaker 1: for his height and how much are we going to?
Speaker 1: SEE i think he can make like a third or
Speaker 1: fourth round of THE Us open if he plays really.
Speaker 1: WELL i don't think he's going to make another semi
Speaker 1: final of A Grand slam unless he does it again
Speaker 1: At wimbledon because he has the support of the. Crowd but,
Speaker 1: yeah that was a really, fun sort of interesting, story
Speaker 1: and of course The brits will losing their mind over.
Speaker 1: Here The World cup was sort of still taking precedent over,
Speaker 1: anything but the fact That fairy made The samis was
Speaker 1: pretty pretty great. Story.
Speaker 3: YEAH i, mean as you, KNOW i was pretty heartbroken
Speaker 3: that my Guy felix couldn't quite get it done Against.
Speaker 3: DJOKOVIC i feel like The djokovic that rolled pasted into
Speaker 3: into the semis after that was. DIMINISHED i think you're.
Speaker 3: RIGHT i don't think he brought his. LEGS i think
Speaker 3: he was, done and you, Know center sent him off
Speaker 3: in strade. SETS i do think we have a major
Speaker 3: charisma problem on the men's tour When Carlos alkarez is
Speaker 3: not playing. Tennis maybe it's BECAUSE i talk with more
Speaker 3: casual fans who are a little disappointed to see somebody
Speaker 3: like Alex verev who's a major step. Down although to your,
Speaker 3: point he played a great tournament and he's certainly. Improved
Speaker 3: he's hitting harder, serves he's hitting more accurate, serves he's
Speaker 3: hitting harder four. Hands he's not you, know he's not
Speaker 3: as passive on porn, construction but, YEAH i mean it's
Speaker 3: it's not, close certainly in the, charisma but also in
Speaker 3: the in the skill. Set so you, know Alex verev
Speaker 3: getting through nobody seated in the top ten to get
Speaker 3: to the final was sort of like this.
Speaker 1: Gay, YEAH i. KNOW i mean the semi final With
Speaker 1: novak would have been. GREAT i think If novak had
Speaker 1: had his, LEGS i think it would HAVE i Think
Speaker 1: yanick would have still. Won and AS i, SAID i
Speaker 1: was there actually watching that. MATCH i had a great,
Speaker 1: seat SO i could really see the sort of accuracy
Speaker 1: of the shot, making the serving Of. Yannick AND i
Speaker 1: did bump Into yanick the day before AND i watched
Speaker 1: him practice the day before and he served like thirty
Speaker 1: to thirty to thirty five at least minutes of. SERVING
Speaker 1: i think more like forty minutes of, serving AND i just, thought,
Speaker 1: oh you, know and he does serve a. LIGHT i
Speaker 1: did bump Into Darren kyle and he just said that
Speaker 1: he does serve a light in practice and you can
Speaker 1: see the he's reaping the benefits of those of that practice.
Speaker 1: Session AND i always, say you play how you, practice
Speaker 1: and if you think you can hit ten minutes of
Speaker 1: serves and go out there and serve. Perfectly you are.
Speaker 1: Not it's not going to happen unless Maybe Pete sampras
Speaker 1: was that type of guy that could be a little
Speaker 1: bit more sort of loose and go after. It But
Speaker 1: yanick's and this, tournament and WHEN i bumped into him
Speaker 1: after the, PRACTICE i sort of mentioned that and he,
Speaker 1: SAID i got. IT i, said how are you? Feeling
Speaker 1: and he, SAID i feel great after my practice. Today
Speaker 1: and that's an ominous sign because you could argue to
Speaker 1: say that he wasn't playing great tennis coming into the.
Speaker 1: Semifinals he was a little. Patchy he didn't look SUPER
Speaker 1: i don't, know comfortable on the, court especially after going
Speaker 1: five sets in the first set in the first, match
Speaker 1: and he just looked a little. Unsure everyone was constantly
Speaker 1: worrying about the heat and is he going to be
Speaker 1: able to handle the heat? Again and he gets into
Speaker 1: that semi, Final, Caitlin oh my. God Like i'm looking
Speaker 1: at the stats from the match Against, djokovic sixteen aces
Speaker 1: against arguably the greatest returner of all. Time he didn't
Speaker 1: serve a high, percentage but every time he got his
Speaker 1: first serve in he won eighty eight percent of his
Speaker 1: first serves and he won sixty one percent of his second.
Speaker 1: Serves that is just ridiculous. Serving and when you look
Speaker 1: at someone Like, novak he won seventy six of his first,
Speaker 1: serves which is pretty, good and thirty four percent only
Speaker 1: on second. SERVES i mean that means That yanick is
Speaker 1: just crushing his second serve and that is a sign
Speaker 1: sometimes of the legs not being. There and just to,
Speaker 1: illustrate why three of thirteen, breakpoints that's how many he
Speaker 1: had thirteen breakpoints On novak and he broke him three.
Speaker 1: Times novak had one break point one the whole, match
Speaker 1: as Did Alex verreth one. Breakpoint that to me just
Speaker 1: shows a guy who steps up and stepping up to
Speaker 1: the line in these big matches on a fast surface
Speaker 1: like a hard court and a grass And yannick is
Speaker 1: dominating with his. SERF i, mean the guy is just
Speaker 1: phenomenal when he gets at first serve in the. Court
Speaker 1: you know when he's at his. Best he's just incredible
Speaker 1: to watch as a tennis. Player the ACCURACY i SAT
Speaker 1: i was sitting with in the last eight club members
Speaker 1: tickets and SO i was sitting with other tennis players
Speaker 1: and we just, Marvel we just go this is just.
Speaker 1: Ridiculous the shot making that he can produce is. Unbelievable it's.
Speaker 3: Optimized, yeah it's hard to get excited about it for.
Speaker 2: Me But i'm glad he. WON i was. Rooting i'm
Speaker 2: glad that he.
Speaker 3: Repeated but, yeah his style of players is, optimized is
Speaker 3: WHAT i would.
Speaker 2: SAY i Miss carlos acaaz a.
Speaker 1: LOT i know you say, that and we all, do
Speaker 1: trust me WHAT i tell. You we all. Do but you,
Speaker 1: know here's a guy that you know in the first,
Speaker 1: set for, example in the, final he was, outplayed he was,
Speaker 1: outserved he was struggling to get the serve back in
Speaker 1: the court As vereb was playing, UNBELIEVABLE i, mean really truly.
Speaker 1: Amazing but when you look at them for our, listeners
Speaker 1: it's really good thing to go to go to The
Speaker 1: wimbledon dot com, website for, example and look at the
Speaker 1: stats for every, set, Right And yannick really did play
Speaker 1: well in that first. Set he did not drop off
Speaker 1: his level at. All zvereb, did, Right so when you
Speaker 1: look at like the winners to unforced, errors you, know
Speaker 1: his unforced errors in the first, set for, example were twenty, five,
Speaker 1: Right azveres were forty. Five zvera was going for a.
Speaker 1: Lot AND i would argue and say That zvereb won
Speaker 1: the big points in the tie break and that was
Speaker 1: really the only. Difference you, Know sinner had more breakpoint,
Speaker 1: opportunities all the, things But vereb give him. Credit and
Speaker 1: one of the things THAT i was, Like, oh could
Speaker 1: this be the day on set point he ripped his
Speaker 1: forehand when he had an opportunity to rip a, Foehand
Speaker 1: zverev ripped the, forehand AND i, thought, wow is this
Speaker 1: a New? Zverev because after winning the franch he comes
Speaker 1: in and he knows the biggest issue for him is
Speaker 1: hitting the forehand under, pressure, Right and SO i would
Speaker 1: argue and say That sinners didn't really drop off his
Speaker 1: level at. All his level stayed the. Same in actual,
Speaker 1: fact if you look at the, stats every set he
Speaker 1: got better And zverev got. Worse, Right but the one
Speaker 1: point WHERE i knew it was over was the first
Speaker 1: point of the tie break in the second, Set and
Speaker 1: we knew how big that second set. Was If vera
Speaker 1: goes up two sets to, love you never, Know, Caitlin
Speaker 1: you never. Know, instead the first point he hits a
Speaker 1: forehand and misses it by a, mile AND i was
Speaker 1: and it was a mini break in the tie, break
Speaker 1: which is you, know can come. Back but as soon
Speaker 1: as he missed that, FOREHAND i, went that's. It that's,
Speaker 1: it because that's the shot that if he makes and
Speaker 1: he's confident, with it's the shot That yannick, goes holy,
Speaker 1: shit where away go because you can see as the
Speaker 1: match went, on every big point he went to the
Speaker 1: forehand and he got either errors or a short ball
Speaker 1: or whatever when he as soon as he shanked or
Speaker 1: missed that, FOREHAND i was, like that's. It the match is,
Speaker 1: over because that's the time where great players don't make
Speaker 1: the dum make the bad. Errors and that's when he
Speaker 1: made the first bad error on a really big, point
Speaker 1: AND i thought that's, it And yannick ran away with the.
Speaker 1: Tiebreak and as soon as he won that tie, break
Speaker 1: it was a different level From, yannick and it was
Speaker 1: an obvious level of what we used to From zverev
Speaker 1: against the great players Like sinner And, alcarez and that
Speaker 1: was a difference maker and that's not going to change
Speaker 1: until he can hit that forehand when it really, matters
Speaker 1: not just on set point when he lost his mind
Speaker 1: when he won the first, set and remembery he turned
Speaker 1: around to his players box and he was, like come,
Speaker 1: on and it was like it was so over the.
Speaker 1: TOP i was, like, dude you got two more sets
Speaker 1: to win against the best player in the. World calm.
Speaker 1: Down AND i just thought he felt like the. Tournament
Speaker 1: he was going to win it after that, set AND
Speaker 1: i was, like. No as soon as he mis set
Speaker 1: fourhand and the second set, tiebreak that was.
Speaker 2: It i'm glad he.
Speaker 3: Didn't i'm glad sinner, one And i'm very very excited
Speaker 3: about WHAT i hope will. Be no More zverev In slam,
Speaker 3: finals although you, know who, knows who knows what will
Speaker 3: happen with the. Men i'm really waiting for that sort of,
Speaker 3: koboli the sort of second tier players to kind of
Speaker 3: step up and keep. Improving AND i think for, me
Speaker 3: the all's, well that ends well with the gentleman singles.
Speaker 3: Tournament But i'm delighted that you took delight In center's,
Speaker 3: efficiency ruthlessness and you, know deserved. Victory so that's that's
Speaker 3: fantastic as an. Outcome what other storylines or players or
Speaker 3: ideas from the. Men are you sort of taking away
Speaker 3: from this next? Tournament LIKE i, SAID i was sad ABOUT.
Speaker 3: Faa he's now switched, coaches So i'm hoping he comes
Speaker 3: to the next phase of hard, courts which is traditionally
Speaker 3: his the surface he does the best.
Speaker 1: Time are you breaking news? HERE i did not know.
Speaker 2: That who Would he fired His french coach a couple
Speaker 2: of days. Ago we don't.
Speaker 3: Know he hasn't announced, yet but he's parted ways with
Speaker 3: his longtime. Coach maybe you, KNOW i don't, know maybe
Speaker 3: if you run into him in The Greek, islands you,
Speaker 3: know put a little bug in his.
Speaker 2: EAR i like when men are feelised by.
Speaker 1: WOMEN i am available and if you'd Listen Todd woodbridge
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks, ago he said That I'm i'm not.
Speaker 1: Available actually what AM i? Saying i'm actually not a
Speaker 1: for a little. While, Anyway DID i just fire?
Speaker 2: Myself but, ANYWAY i Tell serena that you said.
Speaker 1: This if there was a player THAT i would love
Speaker 1: to coach on The men's to, it it would be him,
Speaker 1: because as we've talked about many, TIMES i would loosen
Speaker 1: him up by sort of making him understand his athleticism
Speaker 1: and the way he. Plays he needs to just relax
Speaker 1: a little. Bit we saw some amazing tennis from him Against.
Speaker 1: Novak that was definitely the match of the tournament on
Speaker 1: the men's. Side five hours and fifteen, minutes the longest
Speaker 1: Match Novak djokovic has ever played At, wimbledon which is pretty.
Speaker 1: AMAZING i, MEAN i have to give kudos To. NOVAK i,
Speaker 1: mean to get to the, court to the semi finals,
Speaker 1: again to do what he does at his, age put
Speaker 1: his body through, that and he played really well Against.
Speaker 1: Yannick he just didn't have. It he didn't have the
Speaker 1: legs against you, know a guy playing so. Well but faa,
Speaker 1: YEAH i, Mean i'm happy for him that he's sort
Speaker 1: of getting to these pointy ends and maybe getting over the,
Speaker 1: line hopefully at some point at THE Us. Open BUT
Speaker 1: i wasn't really happy to See Taylor fritz play. Well
Speaker 1: but unfortunately for, him it looks like the knee has
Speaker 1: fled up. Again this is a, bummer major bummer for.
Speaker 1: HIM i feel like we might have a good summer
Speaker 1: From Francis. Tiafo you, know grass is not his, thing
Speaker 1: even though he won a, tournament coming in To. WIMBLEDON
Speaker 1: i just think the way he plays it doesn't really
Speaker 1: suit his game that. Much but, YEAH i Mean kobboli
Speaker 1: sort of getting to the ladder end of a tournament,
Speaker 1: again even though that was a pretty disappointing loss for
Speaker 1: him in straight. Sets BUT i don't, Know you're, right
Speaker 1: there's just no players that are putting their hand up and,
Speaker 1: wanting you, know just the mantle of especially When carlos is.
Speaker 1: OUT i, mean there should be players banging down the,
Speaker 1: door And verev is the only one that's you, know
Speaker 1: doing that right now outside Of.
Speaker 3: Yannick, YEAH i think for, ME i just want to, See,
Speaker 3: YEAH i want to see some. HUNGER i want to
Speaker 3: see some. OPPORTUNISM i want to see, like, hey are
Speaker 3: you guys the best players in the world or? Not
Speaker 3: like what are we doing?
Speaker 2: Here?
Speaker 1: Girl like the, WOMEN i, mean look how many have stepped.
Speaker 1: Up can we just give a shout out to the
Speaker 1: to the small country of The Czech. REPUBLIC i think
Speaker 1: it's not Mean checkia, now it's checkier if you're talking
Speaker 1: about it in a sporting, term because they wanted to
Speaker 1: The Czech republic wanted they didn't think they had great
Speaker 1: cheers like go The Czech. Republic they want to go.
Speaker 1: CHECKIER i, see that's what apparently is why it was
Speaker 1: done for like The olympics and things like. That but
Speaker 1: when you're talking AND i did talk to a player
Speaker 1: From Czech ya and they, said we're from The Czech,
Speaker 1: republic so they don't even agree with.
Speaker 3: This, okay all, right, well yes that country has really
Speaker 3: punched above its. Feet i'm really waiting for The czech
Speaker 3: men to do. SOMETHING i want my, guy Yourkub menchic
Speaker 3: to get to get us. TOGETHER i, mean he's Met
Speaker 3: king the pointing and the, tournaments but he's got a
Speaker 3: breakthrough And hetchka how to he blew it against he
Speaker 3: blew it Against. Ferev he's he's had a he's had his.
Speaker 3: Looks and it's like maybe The czech men need to
Speaker 3: be given a pep talk by The czech. Women let's
Speaker 3: Get martina in there to scare the ship out of. Everybody,
Speaker 3: martina you need to listen.
Speaker 1: Here you, guys you have been there, before ever Since. Linder,
Speaker 1: okay we need you to pull your head out of your.
Speaker 3: ASS i can't believe eight years that we've been doing this,
Speaker 3: Podcast i've never heard Your martina and A radialova impersonation
Speaker 3: that's pretty.
Speaker 1: Special, yeah you've never heard me talk about. Her and
Speaker 1: when she talks About Chris ebott's size Of Chris evott's,
Speaker 1: hands which for those of you that don't, Know Chris
Speaker 1: ebott's hands are, tiny and she would always Say Chris
Speaker 1: abbott is the greatest player with his smallest HANDS i ever.
Speaker 1: Saw it's ridiculous how Small chrissy's hands. ARE i don't
Speaker 1: even know how she could hold a. Racket, seriously it's
Speaker 1: like she has children's, hands but a true. Story she
Speaker 1: laughs about. It but, yeah it's. Amazing when you've Got,
Speaker 1: vondrusova you've Got, kridjikova you've Got, kovidova You hadshover in the.
Speaker 1: Finals this is all in the last ten, years by the.
Speaker 1: Way now you've Got noskova Beating muhova in the. Final
Speaker 1: it's just like. Incredible they produce and if you want
Speaker 1: to be, it you have to see. It and that
Speaker 1: is what happens in The Czech. Republic and you, know
Speaker 1: there's some young girls in the juniors that are looking at,
Speaker 1: this going, yep that's going to be me in five.
Speaker 1: Years and they know it and they believe in themselves
Speaker 1: because of. It it's. Incredible they play against each other
Speaker 1: in club tennis all the. Time they are constantly one
Speaker 1: to trying to one up each. OTHER i, mean you've
Speaker 1: Got stritz of BUT i mean there's so Many, safarova
Speaker 1: like all these players that were at the tournament watching,
Speaker 1: it And i'm, like it's. Insane you guys could literally it's,
Speaker 1: yeah blown away by.
Speaker 3: It well maybe It'll what will happen is the same
Speaker 3: thing that happened In italy where the greatest generation of,
Speaker 3: Women francescas gave on A you Had Sarah irani as
Speaker 3: part of the doubles duo With Roberta Vinci Lavia. Panetta
Speaker 3: they inspired all These italian men all these years. Later
Speaker 3: so maybe The czech next generation is Watching Lyndon noskova
Speaker 3: lifting the. Trophy there is a MAN i should shout
Speaker 3: out a. Couple in, Fact Tokita, oda The japanese wheelchair,
Speaker 3: legend defended his title is womenon Title, yes and The
Speaker 3: british duo Of Alfa hewitt And Gordon reid won the
Speaker 3: Men's willies, doubles so they had homegrown. Champions Kate middleton
Speaker 3: sent them a note, Obviously Princess. Kate that's not bad
Speaker 3: to take home a, check a trophy and a note
Speaker 3: From British. Royalty so you know there's some men who
Speaker 3: were stepping up and wanting the.
Speaker 1: Spotlight And Ui camichi is that how you say her?
Speaker 1: NAME i should know of the wheelchair for the women's
Speaker 1: wheel chairsing was final who Beat groot six, love six
Speaker 1: love and the Final huet Has they're ranked one and.
Speaker 1: Two it's Just committee has never Won. Wimbledon commitchee is
Speaker 1: actually a number one player in the world. Currently but to, win,
Speaker 1: oh AND i was pretty unbelievable to this greet has
Speaker 1: been so good for so, long but the overwhelming tears
Speaker 1: From committee to win that. Tournament AND i did see
Speaker 1: her later that day AND i just, said, congratulations you're
Speaker 1: A wimbledon champion, now and she was just like so,
Speaker 1: thankful And I'M i have to. Say we sit in
Speaker 1: the locker room a lot of us and watch the
Speaker 1: wheelies when they're on and we are blown away by their.
Speaker 1: Talent we mention it every. Time you're so, Good caitlin
Speaker 1: of bringing it up about the wheelchair, TOWN i.
Speaker 2: WELL i like. To that's WHY i recommend. It incredible it's.
Speaker 3: Incredible it's really great live and it's not. Boring this
Speaker 3: is not SOMETHING i do as a favorite. Anybody it's
Speaker 3: legitimately interesting and great and horrid to. Do and watching, them.
Speaker 1: Did you see the crowd on court one was. Unbelievable
Speaker 1: it was they went bonkers watching this. Match it was
Speaker 1: so fun to. Watch and so, YEAH i highly highly
Speaker 1: say that everyone should one time in their life go
Speaker 1: out and watch those wheelchair tennis players play because AND
Speaker 1: i will tell you, this a lot of them have
Speaker 1: better service motions than half the tour for. Sure so
Speaker 1: some of the tour could go and watch their service
Speaker 1: motions because they're. Incredible all, right, Everybody, well we've got
Speaker 1: to take a short break and we'll be. Back another
Speaker 1: little shout out in the juniors who we can't, forget
Speaker 1: But Jordan lee from THE us ended up winning seven
Speaker 1: five and the third Against Cruise, hewitt of Course Leyton hewitt's.
Speaker 1: Son what a great match that, Was my. God it
Speaker 1: was sixth ward To cruise and then six four seven
Speaker 1: five To Jordan. Lee so some, young really up and
Speaker 1: coming talented young guys doing the biers as we, say
Speaker 1: out there on court, one and it was an amazing
Speaker 1: to see someone like and Hewitts son out there in a. Final,
Speaker 1: uh it was just it was. Awesome so, yeah, terrific
Speaker 1: terrific matches all.
Speaker 3: Around there is a lot going on on the internet
Speaker 3: right now talking about how the coverage happened here in The. States,
Speaker 3: now you weren't here in The states because you were
Speaker 3: there coaching and you don't and playing and. PLANE i,
Speaker 3: DON'T i don't need you to say. ANYTHING i know
Speaker 3: that you, have you, know ties to this world still
Speaker 3: and you're an excellent broadcast for, Yourself so don't want
Speaker 3: to put you on the, spot BUT i do have
Speaker 3: to say it is time for UH espn to really
Speaker 3: really put out to pasture a few of the the
Speaker 3: folks who've hung around too long and are not doing
Speaker 3: a good. Job AND i think what was so noticeable
Speaker 3: about this year's coverage is basically who's up to the
Speaker 3: task and who.
Speaker 2: Isn't Andy raddick did a phenomenal. Job he was.
Speaker 3: Phenomenal he was phenomenal in a couple of different. Ways
Speaker 3: he was great on the desk with where where he
Speaker 3: had to do a lot of hard, work and he
Speaker 3: was when paired with the macnroe. Brothers he did a
Speaker 3: good job of elevating them and being conscious not to
Speaker 3: talk over, points answering questions instead of just raising, them putting,
Speaker 3: pointed thoughtful analysis in places that it hadn't seen the
Speaker 3: light of day a lot of times with a lot
Speaker 3: of the broadcasters we've been hearing for a lot of.
Speaker 3: Years So i'm truly not trying to throw, flames BUT
Speaker 3: i think when you have a broadcaster who is as
Speaker 3: talented As Andy rattick, is AND i know you know
Speaker 3: you AND i are both fans of, Him we're both
Speaker 3: fans of his, podcast and was certainly a fan of
Speaker 3: him when he was a, PLAYER i am really impressed
Speaker 3: AND i think the level has now been set for
Speaker 3: one of the main voices OF, espn AND i hope
Speaker 3: that the rest of the crew takes. Note and by,
Speaker 3: CREW i don't mean the other people on the. MICROPHONE
Speaker 3: i Hope i'm talking about the. Producers i'm talking about
Speaker 3: the decision, makers And i'm talking about the people who
Speaker 3: signed contracts many for years and years and.
Speaker 2: Years maybe in a way that.
Speaker 3: Is committing broadcasters to careers that are maybe too, long
Speaker 3: AND i think we have to look at what is
Speaker 3: serving the, audience AND i Think Andy rottick is a
Speaker 3: really good example of somebody who is serving the audience very.
Speaker 3: WELL i also want to shout Out Eugenie, bouchard who
Speaker 3: was not ON, espan she was on The World feed
Speaker 3: calling FOR bbc as. Well she did a phenomenal. Job
Speaker 3: there's some new, voices, Obviously i'm a massive fan Of
Speaker 3: chris You. BANKS i think there's a couple of really great.
Speaker 3: Voices BUT i urge these, broadcasters AND i urge the
Speaker 3: governing bodies giving rights to these. Broadcasters you can have
Speaker 3: the best product in the. World AND i don't think,
Speaker 3: anyone certainly in this conversation is going to argue that
Speaker 3: tennis is not an incredible product. Itself the matches are,
Speaker 3: great the characters and the personalities and the tournaments are.
Speaker 3: Fantastic what the broadcasters do to showcase, that to explain,
Speaker 3: it to bring new people into the, fold to talk
Speaker 3: to people who've been watching it. Forever with prep and
Speaker 3: research and technical analysis like you, do it really matters
Speaker 3: and it makes a big. Difference and if you're getting
Speaker 3: a call on a match by somebody who's adding a
Speaker 3: lot to your, experience sometimes by not talking but instead
Speaker 3: waiting for choice moments to explain things or describe what they're,
Speaker 3: seeing or if you're having an awful experience because somebody
Speaker 3: won't stop, talking or somebody's not prepped or doesn't pronounce
Speaker 3: things a correct, way or is not adding to your
Speaker 3: understanding of the sport or what you're. Seeing it's a
Speaker 3: huge difference, maker and it really turns people off where
Speaker 3: it turns them. On AND i just think those decisions
Speaker 3: have tons of, weight AND i would like FOR, espn
Speaker 3: specifically because they're the ones who have three out of
Speaker 3: these four, slams to really step up when it comes
Speaker 3: to being decisive about who and what is bringing value
Speaker 3: and who. Isn't and shout out To Andy raddick because
Speaker 3: he's definitely definitely somebody who did.
Speaker 1: Well, YEAH i, mean, look, obviously you, Know i'll keep
Speaker 1: a lot of my thoughts to myself on this just
Speaker 1: because for obvious. Reasons BUT i think that the thing
Speaker 1: THAT i would like to say on this is THAT
Speaker 1: i think one of the things that you, said one
Speaker 1: of the things That i've always, said and this is
Speaker 1: true of every, sport is that a great player or
Speaker 1: a former great player doesn't always make a great comment
Speaker 1: AND i really do. BELIEVE i, mean look at and
Speaker 1: and he's a perfect. Example And andy won one major,
Speaker 1: title right more than any but a lot of people
Speaker 1: over the last you, know twenty one hundred, years but you,
Speaker 1: know you would say that he is not as an
Speaker 1: accomplished singles major champion as certain other. People look At Chris,
Speaker 1: eubanks he's a perfect example as. Well a fantastic, commentator
Speaker 1: very very gets really into the weeds of. Stuff AND
Speaker 1: i have listened to other sports WHERE i have found
Speaker 1: certain commentators are so great to listen, to and they
Speaker 1: were not great. PLAYERS i didn't win multiple world championships
Speaker 1: or MULTIPLE wnba titles OR nba titles or even a
Speaker 1: title at, all but they are also my favorite. Commentators
Speaker 1: and SO i think, that, YEAH i think that one
Speaker 1: thing that you AND i have always talked about that
Speaker 1: it doesn't just because you're a great name doesn't mean
Speaker 1: you're a great. Commentator and so you, Know i'm not
Speaker 1: going to mention any. Names i'm not going to mention
Speaker 1: any specific networks or. Anything but that's the thing THAT
Speaker 1: i just would like that all networks, realize you, know
Speaker 1: when you sit down and you, listen is it the best.
Speaker 1: Listen are you learning the most from this? Person are?
Speaker 1: You are they pronouncing the names? Correctly are they getting
Speaker 1: the sport? Right this is the key WHEN i sit
Speaker 1: and watch a. Match if you're a, layman If i'm,
Speaker 1: obviously If i'm watching, Tennis i'm a a, tech you,
Speaker 1: know quote unquote an, expert, right SO i see things
Speaker 1: very differently to you, KNOW i see things differently to.
Speaker 1: YOU i see differently to somebody who played recreational, tennis for,
Speaker 1: example are you going away from that match learning more
Speaker 1: about that player and that match and the? Sport and
Speaker 1: if you are learning more every time you listen to
Speaker 1: somebody in their, commentary that's a good. Commentator and SO
Speaker 1: i think that's the, key and when to pull back
Speaker 1: and when not to. Talk certainly we get told all
Speaker 1: the time by a, producer for, example let the pictures
Speaker 1: tell the. Story you, know you don't need to, Overtalk
Speaker 1: you don't need to tell us too much in these.
Speaker 1: Moments let the pictures tell the. Story, sometimes let the
Speaker 1: noise tell, Them let the crowd tell a. Story and
Speaker 1: SO i think that's the one thing THAT i would
Speaker 1: like to get. Across so whoever's doing that bravo to,
Speaker 1: them and the ones that are, not they're the ones
Speaker 1: that maybe need to be stepped.
Speaker 3: Aside couldn't agree More AND i think, again the producers
Speaker 3: are really the people who need to be paying, attention
Speaker 3: the people who run these, broadcasts because, again the product
Speaker 3: is growing in, ratings it's growing in, fans it's growing
Speaker 3: in spectator, interests it's growing in, popularity and those are
Speaker 3: all great. Things imagine the opportunity we have to keep a,
Speaker 3: spectator an audience, member a fan for, life or to
Speaker 3: turn them off because somebody hasn't bothered to do the
Speaker 3: basic prep and rolls into the studio acting like it's
Speaker 3: a job for life that they don't have to prep,
Speaker 3: for or you, know making it all about. Themselves, AGAIN
Speaker 3: i bring this up only BECAUSE i know the caliber Of,
Speaker 3: EUROSPORT i know the caliber of THE, BBC i know
Speaker 3: the caliber of The world. Feed And i'm not saying
Speaker 3: everybody's always doing a great job on all of those
Speaker 3: things or PEOPLE i prefer to, others BUT. Espn the
Speaker 3: contrast between the people who are doing really well and
Speaker 3: the people who are not was start this year because
Speaker 3: they have some good voices and also because they, don't
Speaker 3: AND i would love for, them in particular to think
Speaker 3: about the fact that they are the main doorway through which, many,
Speaker 3: many many people are experiencing, tennis AND i really want
Speaker 3: to urge them to think about who it is that's
Speaker 3: shepherding those people through their fanship and to understand what they're.
Speaker 3: Watching Tennis channel had a couple of dark years there for,
Speaker 3: me and then they've really. Improved they've done incredible stuff
Speaker 3: with the on air, talent but also they've done incredible
Speaker 3: stuff with the, app and they've made improvements to the
Speaker 3: way that they show recaps and the way that content is.
Speaker 3: Surfaced to, me, like there's no reason that things have
Speaker 3: to be done the way they have been. Before AND
Speaker 3: i think you're to your, point like just because you
Speaker 3: played tennis and had a bunch Of Grand slams doesn't
Speaker 3: make you a good. Commentator and for some of these,
Speaker 3: guys they've had a lot of years at, it you,
Speaker 3: know And i'm not sure that they need any. More
Speaker 3: and SO i would love very much for people to
Speaker 3: have a real audit, about you, know what it is
Speaker 3: that we're offering audience members and how we can do.
Speaker 1: BETTER i know that it's tremendously difficult position to be
Speaker 1: in as an executive producer of these networks to make these.
Speaker 1: DECISIONS i do know that because there are a lot
Speaker 1: of people that love certain commentators and they and there
Speaker 1: are a lot of people that don't like the same.
Speaker 1: COMMENTATOR i, mean there's been, Times caitlin where even on
Speaker 1: My twitter, feed you, KNOW i have one person that'll
Speaker 1: say the most awful things about, me and then literally
Speaker 1: on the next tweet is praising how GREAT i. Am
Speaker 1: so it's, like you can't please, everybody and that's half
Speaker 1: of the. Reason SO i JUST i do urge anyone out.
Speaker 1: There it's just, like the most important thing is if
Speaker 1: someone comes up to me and, says, HEY i learned
Speaker 1: so much WHEN i listen to, you OR i really,
Speaker 1: listen you, know AND i learned something about, Somebody AND
Speaker 1: i think that's the. Key AND i think the one
Speaker 1: thing About andy that's really great is that he gives
Speaker 1: you a nuance and a look into the nitty gritty of.
Speaker 1: Tennis and that is my favorite kind of. Person and you,
Speaker 1: know it's HOW i feel WHEN i listen to Pet.
Speaker 1: Coo it's HOW i listened to various different other commentators
Speaker 1: is that you learn a little bit about, them not
Speaker 1: only as a tennis play but also as. People so so, yeah,
Speaker 1: listen obviously not for me to talk, about But i'm
Speaker 1: happy to be here with, You, caitlin and that's.
Speaker 2: All thank, you and it's mutually all.
Speaker 3: Right, well we have a couple OF i don't want
Speaker 3: to call them down, weeks but the tours In europe
Speaker 3: go back to clay will have the hard court swing
Speaker 3: here In North america before too. LONG i hope you
Speaker 3: have a phenomenal couple of days off and in The Greek,
Speaker 3: ISLANDS i hope if you run into any tennis, players
Speaker 3: you get all the gossip and you share it with.
Speaker 1: Us, well the thing, IS i don't really need to
Speaker 1: get all the. Gossip it's all over the, internet so
Speaker 1: there's no need for me to do anything at this.
Speaker 1: Point but, anyway, Yeah i'm gonna have a couple of days.
Speaker 1: Off we, will we'll figure out what we're going to.
Speaker 2: Do next.
Speaker 1: Week you'll see, Me caitlyn will be back In New
Speaker 1: york On. WEDNESDAY i believe WHEN i see, it you're
Speaker 1: not going to see me await that. Long so and
Speaker 1: of COURSE dc is coming, up and all the hard,
Speaker 1: Courts so we can't wait to get into that swing
Speaker 1: because we LOVE dc and they have a hell of
Speaker 1: a Play they have a lot of great players there this,
Speaker 1: year but lots to, go lots of hardcourt still to,
Speaker 1: come and a lot of hot weather still to embrace
Speaker 1: In New. York And i'll be back there very very. Soon.
Speaker 1: Caitlin thanks. Mate where are you right?
Speaker 3: Now by the, Way i'm at The Cityview Racket club
Speaker 3: here In Long Island, city just played some, Tennis i'm
Speaker 3: doing some work and Then i'm going to.
Speaker 1: Go it's where we play a little paddle city we
Speaker 1: get a let's get a shout out To cityview because
Speaker 1: it is. Great it's got, paddle it's got, tennis it's
Speaker 1: got all the, things got a, bar it's got the racket, clubhouse.
Speaker 3: Pro, clubhouse crosh up and as of, today we have
Speaker 3: a fully functioning cold plunge and a newly remodeled.
Speaker 2: Sauna so you.
Speaker 1: Got to come back and visit. It it's the only
Speaker 1: THING i was complaining about was the. Sauna SO i am.
Speaker 1: There how about we do a live stream one from
Speaker 1: there maybe next week or the.
Speaker 2: People demand, it maybe we'll have. To if the.
Speaker 1: People demand it tell right, everyone thanks for joining us this.
Speaker 1: Week it was a, wonderful wonderful grass court season with
Speaker 1: some incredible players and ladies and. Gentlemen lendonnoskova not only
Speaker 1: inside the top, ten but A wimbledon. Champion and MAY i,
Speaker 1: SAY i Think Carolyne muhova is going to have a
Speaker 1: really GOOD Us. OPEN i just have a feeling so fingers.
Speaker 1: Crossed you know how much we love? Her she, Came,
Speaker 1: oh so we didn't even friggin really talk about the,
Speaker 1: final but it was just can we just talk about the?
Speaker 1: SPEECHES i know you hate WHEN i do, this but
Speaker 1: the crying the best friend when she, said my, friend
Speaker 1: you know you're not my friend. Anymore there were just
Speaker 1: so many great. Storylines wimbledon was. Amazing Linda's noskova losing
Speaker 1: her mom two years, later winning the title and doing
Speaker 1: it against a FRIEND i think made a big difference
Speaker 1: for her to be out there with someone Like carolina
Speaker 1: and not somebody that she didn't really know. Alike so
Speaker 1: just kudos To. Linda won an amazing tournament and of
Speaker 1: course back to back wins for the one and Only Janick,
Speaker 1: sinner my golf, Buddy so well done to both of.
Speaker 1: Them to everybody who won a title At, wimbledon and
Speaker 1: we'll see you on the hard. Courts thanks for joining me.
Speaker 1: Today keith Lenn we'll see you, soon. Babe