1 00:00:05,600 --> 00:00:09,879 Speaker 1: This is straight Fire with Jason McIntyre. 2 00:00:11,119 --> 00:00:15,240 Speaker 2: What is up Fire I am It's me Jason McIntyre, 3 00:00:15,320 --> 00:00:21,439 Speaker 2: Street boyer for Friday, April the third. Listen, we have 4 00:00:21,440 --> 00:00:24,840 Speaker 2: a great podcast today. Great guest, amazing guest. He's a YouTuber. 5 00:00:25,239 --> 00:00:27,200 Speaker 2: I know some of you guys out there trying to 6 00:00:28,840 --> 00:00:34,160 Speaker 2: have a career as a creator slash influencer. This guy 7 00:00:34,159 --> 00:00:36,360 Speaker 2: actually did it. You gonna want to listen to him. 8 00:00:36,360 --> 00:00:40,000 Speaker 2: He's in my men's league, lives near me. His dad 9 00:00:40,120 --> 00:00:41,920 Speaker 2: is a creator slash influencer. 10 00:00:41,960 --> 00:00:44,320 Speaker 3: His sister is a huge deal. 11 00:00:45,600 --> 00:00:47,800 Speaker 2: Out here in Los Angeles is I haven't met her, 12 00:00:47,800 --> 00:00:52,200 Speaker 2: but she's apparently a big deal. Instagram, YouTube, TikTok whatever. 13 00:00:53,560 --> 00:00:56,320 Speaker 2: We'll get to Hudson matter in a little bit. Just 14 00:00:56,400 --> 00:01:01,200 Speaker 2: let me riffer up a couple of moments on the Lakers. Okay, yes, 15 00:01:02,160 --> 00:01:05,720 Speaker 2: I thought Lakers Thunder Thursday night would be potential game 16 00:01:05,760 --> 00:01:08,039 Speaker 2: of the year. The NBA was hyping it. Listen, Hey, 17 00:01:08,120 --> 00:01:11,280 Speaker 2: Lakers are coming on strong. Lakers look good. Lakers are 18 00:01:11,280 --> 00:01:13,000 Speaker 2: third in the West. This is a real team. They 19 00:01:13,040 --> 00:01:15,679 Speaker 2: won fifteen to seventeen. They beat some damn good teams 20 00:01:15,760 --> 00:01:19,200 Speaker 2: leading up to it, so they go into OKC Thursday night, 21 00:01:20,160 --> 00:01:22,399 Speaker 2: Marcus Smart and no go. He's been heard, he's missed 22 00:01:22,400 --> 00:01:26,759 Speaker 2: five or six games whatever. And the Lakers come out 23 00:01:26,840 --> 00:01:29,319 Speaker 2: and just play zero defense in the first quarter, give 24 00:01:29,400 --> 00:01:33,400 Speaker 2: up a staggering forty four points. The Lakers come out 25 00:01:33,440 --> 00:01:36,360 Speaker 2: and Austin Reeves vomits up the ball. The first three 26 00:01:36,440 --> 00:01:39,479 Speaker 2: times he touches it, literal turnovers. The first three times 27 00:01:39,480 --> 00:01:41,160 Speaker 2: he touched the ball. You can watch it and watch 28 00:01:41,160 --> 00:01:43,479 Speaker 2: the game on the game when they reair it out 29 00:01:43,520 --> 00:01:46,000 Speaker 2: here in LA or YouTube, whatever you want. His first 30 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:49,880 Speaker 2: three touches resulted in turnovers, and the Lakers are down 31 00:01:49,960 --> 00:01:52,040 Speaker 2: a shit ton forty four to twenty one. After a quarter, 32 00:01:52,080 --> 00:01:56,120 Speaker 2: it's over done. So then in the second quarter, Austin 33 00:01:56,160 --> 00:01:59,440 Speaker 2: Reeves is like holding his back. Something happened when he pumped, 34 00:01:59,440 --> 00:02:03,680 Speaker 2: fakedlued to order somebody, and then Luca reaches for his 35 00:02:03,760 --> 00:02:07,200 Speaker 2: hamstring and they both play through it. So third quarter, 36 00:02:07,320 --> 00:02:11,119 Speaker 2: you know what happens. Luca comes up instantly, puts a pump, fake, 37 00:02:11,200 --> 00:02:13,680 Speaker 2: stands up, and he popped the hammy and now he's 38 00:02:13,720 --> 00:02:17,200 Speaker 2: getting an MRI. Sometime this morning in the Lakers postseason, 39 00:02:17,280 --> 00:02:17,880 Speaker 2: chances hang. 40 00:02:17,840 --> 00:02:18,400 Speaker 1: In the balance. 41 00:02:19,160 --> 00:02:22,120 Speaker 2: The Lakers were one of the hottest teams in the league. Obviously, 42 00:02:22,160 --> 00:02:25,440 Speaker 2: these Spurs are the hottest, as they went into the 43 00:02:25,440 --> 00:02:27,560 Speaker 2: paper clips last night No Wemby on a back to 44 00:02:27,639 --> 00:02:31,880 Speaker 2: back and still won handily. They're the hottest team. Okase, 45 00:02:31,880 --> 00:02:34,560 Speaker 2: he's second and the Lakers were third, and the Lakers 46 00:02:34,560 --> 00:02:38,639 Speaker 2: are no longer third, folks. They lost by forty three points. 47 00:02:40,120 --> 00:02:42,640 Speaker 2: There's no way around this. If you tuned in expecting 48 00:02:42,680 --> 00:02:45,120 Speaker 2: me to say something, find some excuses, there's none of 49 00:02:45,160 --> 00:02:48,360 Speaker 2: that happening. It's not it was crazy. You're just watching 50 00:02:48,440 --> 00:02:51,400 Speaker 2: and you're like, first quarter forty four points. But it 51 00:02:51,480 --> 00:02:54,080 Speaker 2: wasn't the usual suspects. SGA was started like two for seven, 52 00:02:54,120 --> 00:02:56,640 Speaker 2: he didn't do anything, but Lou Dort was four for 53 00:02:56,720 --> 00:03:02,240 Speaker 2: four on threes. Lou friggin' Dort. And then Isaiah Joe 54 00:03:02,320 --> 00:03:05,760 Speaker 2: comes in, Bang Bang Bang, he hit six threes. AJ 55 00:03:05,880 --> 00:03:07,760 Speaker 2: Mitchell comes in bang bang three case. 56 00:03:07,600 --> 00:03:08,120 Speaker 1: On what I mean? 57 00:03:08,160 --> 00:03:09,240 Speaker 2: They could not miss. 58 00:03:09,240 --> 00:03:11,120 Speaker 3: I think they were seven of ten from three in 59 00:03:11,160 --> 00:03:11,880 Speaker 3: the first quarter. 60 00:03:12,160 --> 00:03:16,200 Speaker 2: It was obscene. The Lakers tried their zone second quarter, Nope, 61 00:03:16,400 --> 00:03:19,720 Speaker 2: still pop pop pop pop three three three. And the 62 00:03:19,800 --> 00:03:22,600 Speaker 2: worst part was it wasn't SGA doing the damage for 63 00:03:22,639 --> 00:03:24,440 Speaker 2: the first quarter and a half. Then SGA comes in 64 00:03:24,480 --> 00:03:27,560 Speaker 2: for his tour, rested fully up twenty five, and he 65 00:03:27,639 --> 00:03:29,800 Speaker 2: puts on like twelve or fourteen in a row, and 66 00:03:29,840 --> 00:03:34,440 Speaker 2: it was just like game over, folks. Here's the scary thing. 67 00:03:34,480 --> 00:03:38,200 Speaker 2: So the Lakers defense has been awesome in the last 68 00:03:38,360 --> 00:03:40,880 Speaker 2: month and change. I think post All Star Break their 69 00:03:40,880 --> 00:03:45,680 Speaker 2: top fourteen defense, top sixteen something like that, and they've 70 00:03:45,720 --> 00:03:49,960 Speaker 2: been using the zone. Well, oksee, based on what I 71 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:53,600 Speaker 2: saw last night, you cannot zone them. I mean when 72 00:03:54,680 --> 00:03:57,800 Speaker 2: aj Mitchell, Isaiah Joe and loudrt are just banging threes, 73 00:03:57,800 --> 00:04:00,280 Speaker 2: it was like, oh my gosh, if they're not going 74 00:04:00,320 --> 00:04:03,480 Speaker 2: to miss. And Ruy Hachimorro, who basically hits all his 75 00:04:03,480 --> 00:04:05,840 Speaker 2: shots at home, comes out and is just spraying every 76 00:04:05,840 --> 00:04:09,440 Speaker 2: shot misfiring to uh when he finished two a nine, 77 00:04:09,840 --> 00:04:13,320 Speaker 2: Jick Laravia three of ten, Austin Reeves and Lebron were 78 00:04:13,320 --> 00:04:15,320 Speaker 2: the only two guys doing good. And that's a tough 79 00:04:15,320 --> 00:04:16,920 Speaker 2: sell when you look at the box score and see Lebron, 80 00:04:16,960 --> 00:04:22,240 Speaker 2: who's minus thirty seven in twenty six minutes. I mean, 81 00:04:22,960 --> 00:04:26,960 Speaker 2: Ruey was minus thirty nine. It was bad. Now I'm 82 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:29,240 Speaker 2: not gonna get out the jump to conclusions bat and 83 00:04:29,240 --> 00:04:31,080 Speaker 2: say the Lakers are cooked. They have they'll get swept 84 00:04:31,080 --> 00:04:33,440 Speaker 2: by the Thunder. I mean they might, I don't know. 85 00:04:34,720 --> 00:04:37,880 Speaker 2: It did not look good Luca getting the MRI. If 86 00:04:37,920 --> 00:04:40,479 Speaker 2: they say it's a Grade two or three spraying, you know, 87 00:04:40,560 --> 00:04:42,679 Speaker 2: forget it. They're not even gonna win in the first round. 88 00:04:43,120 --> 00:04:45,000 Speaker 2: He's got to be back for the first round fully healthy. 89 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:46,440 Speaker 2: I don't know if that's possible. Can you come back 90 00:04:46,480 --> 00:04:48,120 Speaker 2: from a straining tam string in two weeks? 91 00:04:48,680 --> 00:04:49,200 Speaker 1: We'll see. 92 00:04:50,400 --> 00:04:53,800 Speaker 2: But from the Reeves back the Luca Hammy, the lack 93 00:04:53,800 --> 00:04:56,719 Speaker 2: of defense, I mean, DeAndre and like could not protect 94 00:04:56,720 --> 00:04:59,160 Speaker 2: the rim. Are you ready for this? Twenty minutes the 95 00:04:59,200 --> 00:05:05,200 Speaker 2: guy had one fing rebound, that's it, one rebound. Maxi 96 00:05:05,279 --> 00:05:08,240 Speaker 2: Kleeber had three boards in eight minutes. I mean, if 97 00:05:08,279 --> 00:05:11,960 Speaker 2: you watch Aighton, he was as soft as the two 98 00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:15,960 Speaker 2: ply tissue paper that I get from Costco. It was bad, folks. 99 00:05:16,520 --> 00:05:20,480 Speaker 2: Sga had two offensive boards. Isaiah Hartenstein had four offensive boards. 100 00:05:20,760 --> 00:05:26,360 Speaker 2: Ayton had one rebound, that's it, one defensive board. I mean, 101 00:05:26,800 --> 00:05:29,000 Speaker 2: it feels physically impossible. 102 00:05:29,080 --> 00:05:32,240 Speaker 4: But it happened. They did. 103 00:05:32,279 --> 00:05:34,359 Speaker 2: The Thunder were scary. They made their threes. That was 104 00:05:34,400 --> 00:05:36,880 Speaker 2: all the matter. This game of Isaiah Joe just spotting 105 00:05:36,960 --> 00:05:39,800 Speaker 2: up and it was just like, I mean, if I 106 00:05:39,960 --> 00:05:43,320 Speaker 2: shoot like that, it's a career night. If like the 107 00:05:43,360 --> 00:05:45,560 Speaker 2: seventh and eighth and ninth guy on the thunder are 108 00:05:45,600 --> 00:05:48,440 Speaker 2: banging threes like that, well, I don't know what you 109 00:05:48,480 --> 00:05:52,840 Speaker 2: do if you're the Lakers. Now, I think against the 110 00:05:52,839 --> 00:05:54,920 Speaker 2: Spurs is a different story because you're playing the starters 111 00:05:54,920 --> 00:05:57,120 Speaker 2: heavy minutes, and all those bench guys that got in 112 00:05:57,160 --> 00:05:59,000 Speaker 2: and made all their threes, they're not playing as much. 113 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:02,360 Speaker 2: You're not leaving sga on the bench for fifteen twenty 114 00:06:02,440 --> 00:06:06,400 Speaker 2: minutes against the Spurs, who have beat your ass this year. Now, 115 00:06:06,520 --> 00:06:08,880 Speaker 2: Oka Se did take the season series from the Lakers 116 00:06:08,920 --> 00:06:12,600 Speaker 2: three to zero. They won the first game by twenty nine, 117 00:06:13,279 --> 00:06:15,120 Speaker 2: when second guy by nine, in the third game by 118 00:06:15,120 --> 00:06:16,800 Speaker 2: forty three. I'm not going to waste time and look 119 00:06:16,800 --> 00:06:19,520 Speaker 2: at the box score and see who played who didn't. 120 00:06:20,640 --> 00:06:23,320 Speaker 2: Okay Se kicked their ass. The Lakers beat swept the Wolves. 121 00:06:24,320 --> 00:06:26,440 Speaker 2: Okay See got their butts handed to them by the Spurs. 122 00:06:27,520 --> 00:06:30,960 Speaker 2: It's cyclical, this stuff happens. Teams get routed. Okaysee looked 123 00:06:31,000 --> 00:06:35,080 Speaker 2: like in a different planet than the Lakers, but really 124 00:06:35,120 --> 00:06:37,680 Speaker 2: it all comes down to Lucas Mri. But there's no 125 00:06:37,720 --> 00:06:41,960 Speaker 2: point in getting excited. Actually it's depressing. It felt like 126 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:44,560 Speaker 2: the Lakers season ended within the span of an hour, 127 00:06:44,640 --> 00:06:46,880 Speaker 2: went from the hype and excitement to over that game 128 00:06:47,920 --> 00:06:51,279 Speaker 2: to damn we cooked. So next up for the Lakers 129 00:06:51,279 --> 00:06:56,000 Speaker 2: this weekend is the Dallas Mavericks on Sunday. Lakers got 130 00:06:56,000 --> 00:06:59,720 Speaker 2: a couple extra days here to recuperate, recalibrate. They're at 131 00:06:59,800 --> 00:07:02,880 Speaker 2: Dallas than their home against OKAC. Then they're out God 132 00:07:02,880 --> 00:07:04,440 Speaker 2: and stay. I don't know if they win another game 133 00:07:04,480 --> 00:07:07,920 Speaker 2: this season without Luca. Maybe they beat Dallas, maybe they 134 00:07:07,920 --> 00:07:13,360 Speaker 2: beat Utah. I don't know, but things just got pretty 135 00:07:13,440 --> 00:07:15,680 Speaker 2: damn bleak for the Lakers. All Right, Without further ado, 136 00:07:15,760 --> 00:07:20,280 Speaker 2: let's get to our guest creator slash influencer Hudson Matter. 137 00:07:21,600 --> 00:07:24,520 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 138 00:07:24,560 --> 00:07:27,920 Speaker 1: the nation. Catch all of our shows at foxsports Radio 139 00:07:28,040 --> 00:07:32,160 Speaker 1: dot Com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to 140 00:07:32,240 --> 00:07:37,720 Speaker 1: listen live. You know a guy Jason likes to think 141 00:07:37,760 --> 00:07:40,200 Speaker 1: he knows everything when it comes to sports. 142 00:07:40,560 --> 00:07:42,800 Speaker 2: I know what sports dance wants, but for. 143 00:07:42,760 --> 00:07:45,720 Speaker 1: Everything he doesn't. He knows. A guy who does. 144 00:07:45,720 --> 00:07:48,640 Speaker 2: Let's just say I know a guy who knows the 145 00:07:48,680 --> 00:07:51,880 Speaker 2: guy who knows another guy. All right, let's welcome in 146 00:07:51,880 --> 00:07:54,520 Speaker 2: a straight fire, a first time guest. Oh my gosh. 147 00:07:54,560 --> 00:07:55,800 Speaker 2: All right, so let me tell you about the first 148 00:07:55,840 --> 00:07:57,760 Speaker 2: time I heard about this guy. So we're I'm playing 149 00:07:57,800 --> 00:08:01,160 Speaker 2: in a local hoops league and everybody keeps talking about 150 00:08:01,160 --> 00:08:03,000 Speaker 2: this YouTuber who can shoot the lights out. And I 151 00:08:03,040 --> 00:08:05,000 Speaker 2: was like, Okay, I don't know who he is. I'm 152 00:08:05,040 --> 00:08:07,240 Speaker 2: up here all the time. And then Oh, that's him. 153 00:08:07,720 --> 00:08:09,920 Speaker 2: And then they say his name, Hudson Matter, and I'm like, 154 00:08:09,960 --> 00:08:13,000 Speaker 2: wait a minute, wait a minute. Matter, My daughter watches 155 00:08:13,240 --> 00:08:15,640 Speaker 2: are you related to Salish? And He's like, yeah, that's 156 00:08:15,680 --> 00:08:18,680 Speaker 2: my sister. And I'm like, oh my gosh. So so 157 00:08:18,680 --> 00:08:21,360 Speaker 2: so now we became friends. He can hoop, It's legit, 158 00:08:21,480 --> 00:08:23,040 Speaker 2: Hudson Matter, how you man? 159 00:08:23,960 --> 00:08:26,560 Speaker 4: Hey, hey, since you said lights out shooter, that was 160 00:08:26,600 --> 00:08:28,880 Speaker 4: like the greatest compliment I can be given. So I'll 161 00:08:28,880 --> 00:08:29,680 Speaker 4: take it. I'll take you. 162 00:08:30,880 --> 00:08:33,719 Speaker 2: So many questions for Hudson. So obviously you know he's 163 00:08:33,760 --> 00:08:35,680 Speaker 2: a big basketball guy. He's a Knicks fan, and so 164 00:08:35,840 --> 00:08:37,400 Speaker 2: what do you Nicks duke? 165 00:08:37,480 --> 00:08:38,240 Speaker 3: Who else do you like? 166 00:08:38,520 --> 00:08:41,400 Speaker 4: I'm a Knicks fan. Duke fan Yankee fan, and those 167 00:08:41,440 --> 00:08:43,480 Speaker 4: are like my main three. My dad's a cowboy fans. 168 00:08:43,520 --> 00:08:44,120 Speaker 4: I like the cowboy. 169 00:08:44,160 --> 00:08:45,800 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, wait, how hold up? Hold up? I 170 00:08:45,800 --> 00:08:46,560 Speaker 2: need to know the background. 171 00:08:46,559 --> 00:08:47,440 Speaker 3: Where are you from? 172 00:08:47,559 --> 00:08:51,319 Speaker 2: Because people are gonna hear Duke front runner, Nick's front 173 00:08:51,400 --> 00:08:54,160 Speaker 2: runner and Yankees. I mean, are you a New York guy? 174 00:08:54,840 --> 00:08:58,199 Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, born and raised in New York. Unfortunately, nice. 175 00:08:58,800 --> 00:09:01,000 Speaker 4: I wish the Knicks were. We're a front running team, 176 00:09:01,080 --> 00:09:03,560 Speaker 4: but not not for a while. Hey, this is our 177 00:09:03,640 --> 00:09:05,720 Speaker 4: year though, we'll get into it, but this our year. 178 00:09:05,840 --> 00:09:07,920 Speaker 3: Well yeah, well we'll talk. Nick's a little bit so 179 00:09:07,920 --> 00:09:09,400 Speaker 3: so interesting. I didn't know you were from New York. 180 00:09:09,400 --> 00:09:10,839 Speaker 3: I've known you for but I don't know, maybe a year. 181 00:09:11,200 --> 00:09:14,199 Speaker 2: And yeah, so you're his dad's working out like every 182 00:09:14,280 --> 00:09:17,160 Speaker 2: day in the gym. Haven't met the daughter yet, but 183 00:09:17,559 --> 00:09:20,600 Speaker 2: sorry sister. So essentially, Hudson's sister is such a big deal. 184 00:09:20,640 --> 00:09:23,599 Speaker 2: When she goes out locally in the South Bay, my 185 00:09:23,720 --> 00:09:25,160 Speaker 2: daughter and her friends will like see her and oh 186 00:09:25,160 --> 00:09:26,840 Speaker 2: my gosh, here she is, and people are like taking 187 00:09:26,840 --> 00:09:29,120 Speaker 2: a picture. Now are you getting that treatment? Being a 188 00:09:29,120 --> 00:09:33,280 Speaker 2: big time YouTuber with what two million subscribers a little bit. 189 00:09:33,320 --> 00:09:35,400 Speaker 4: It happens from time to time. It happens from time time, 190 00:09:35,440 --> 00:09:37,520 Speaker 4: and it's very It's it's cool. It's cool to see 191 00:09:37,520 --> 00:09:41,559 Speaker 4: that positive, positive reinforcement to you know, keep going. But yeah, 192 00:09:41,559 --> 00:09:44,000 Speaker 4: it's a lot of fun. It's it's it. It depends 193 00:09:44,040 --> 00:09:45,560 Speaker 4: where I am. If I'm in a place where there's 194 00:09:45,600 --> 00:09:47,680 Speaker 4: like younger people than it happens more. 195 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:48,360 Speaker 3: Yeah. 196 00:09:48,400 --> 00:09:51,400 Speaker 2: So I got to ask, like people are now aspiring 197 00:09:51,480 --> 00:09:55,240 Speaker 2: to not necessarily be you, but be an influencer, somebody 198 00:09:55,240 --> 00:09:59,000 Speaker 2: who makes money for living off social media. I mean, 199 00:09:59,080 --> 00:10:00,960 Speaker 2: I'm not gonna lie, it is. It is a great job. 200 00:10:01,000 --> 00:10:02,439 Speaker 3: I still have to wake up every day. 201 00:10:02,679 --> 00:10:04,800 Speaker 2: I got to go to a meeting, I gotta go 202 00:10:04,840 --> 00:10:05,920 Speaker 2: to a show, a studio. 203 00:10:05,960 --> 00:10:07,439 Speaker 3: I've got I'm told what I have to wear. 204 00:10:07,640 --> 00:10:09,680 Speaker 2: You do whatever the hell you want. Nobody telling you 205 00:10:09,720 --> 00:10:10,480 Speaker 2: what to do, right. 206 00:10:11,480 --> 00:10:14,600 Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, depends the way I see it, is like, 207 00:10:15,200 --> 00:10:18,600 Speaker 4: if you're a YouTuber, your job is your your boss 208 00:10:18,640 --> 00:10:21,640 Speaker 4: is like the audience. So whatever the audience wants, that 209 00:10:21,760 --> 00:10:23,920 Speaker 4: is essentially what you need to deliver. On to an extent, 210 00:10:24,000 --> 00:10:27,200 Speaker 4: you should still make what you're passionate about. But yeah, 211 00:10:27,200 --> 00:10:29,560 Speaker 4: I mean I guess to an extent, Yeah, like I 212 00:10:29,559 --> 00:10:32,800 Speaker 4: can if I can wear, like, you know, a tank 213 00:10:32,840 --> 00:10:35,000 Speaker 4: top every day if I wanted to, I don't, but 214 00:10:35,120 --> 00:10:37,400 Speaker 4: you know you could or you can. Yeah, you can 215 00:10:37,440 --> 00:10:41,080 Speaker 4: basically more or less do whatever you want as an 216 00:10:41,160 --> 00:10:45,440 Speaker 4: influencer in terms of content creation. So it's like you do. 217 00:10:45,600 --> 00:10:47,920 Speaker 4: So usually the path that goes is, like, you find 218 00:10:47,920 --> 00:10:50,280 Speaker 4: something you're passionate about in terms of like content, you 219 00:10:50,280 --> 00:10:52,920 Speaker 4: start making videos about that, You build an audience for that, 220 00:10:53,000 --> 00:10:55,080 Speaker 4: and then you just build that audience over time. So 221 00:10:55,360 --> 00:10:58,200 Speaker 4: if you, let's say basketball, you are a basketball fan, 222 00:10:58,520 --> 00:11:00,200 Speaker 4: then you want to be a basketball creator. You make 223 00:11:00,280 --> 00:11:02,800 Speaker 4: videos about how to get better basketball. You know, here 224 00:11:02,800 --> 00:11:05,080 Speaker 4: are the top ten NBA players of all time, and 225 00:11:05,080 --> 00:11:08,120 Speaker 4: then you know people start, you know, following your page 226 00:11:08,400 --> 00:11:11,000 Speaker 4: and it builds over time, and that's usually the path 227 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:11,360 Speaker 4: that goes. 228 00:11:11,960 --> 00:11:14,280 Speaker 2: So what's interesting is you said the audience is kind 229 00:11:14,280 --> 00:11:16,480 Speaker 2: of your boss, but the audience is general. I know, 230 00:11:16,559 --> 00:11:21,120 Speaker 2: for this podcast, we do heavy NBA, heavy NFL. Whatever 231 00:11:21,200 --> 00:11:23,199 Speaker 2: is like kind of a hot topic, Caitlin Clark whatever. 232 00:11:23,400 --> 00:11:25,880 Speaker 2: But I pitched an idea to my producer about the 233 00:11:26,000 --> 00:11:31,199 Speaker 2: Yankees and this ABS baseball system with the referee, the umpires. 234 00:11:31,200 --> 00:11:33,160 Speaker 2: Everybody's freaking out and he's like, yeah, your audience isn't 235 00:11:33,160 --> 00:11:35,400 Speaker 2: a lot of baseball guys. I would just say forget it. 236 00:11:35,600 --> 00:11:37,240 Speaker 3: Less interesting major happens. 237 00:11:37,440 --> 00:11:40,400 Speaker 2: So I'm wondering when when you talk to your team 238 00:11:41,280 --> 00:11:43,920 Speaker 2: about videos, do you have a niche or do you 239 00:11:43,960 --> 00:11:46,640 Speaker 2: want to try to still be very broad and whatever 240 00:11:46,760 --> 00:11:47,400 Speaker 2: whatever's hot. 241 00:11:48,080 --> 00:11:50,360 Speaker 4: I mean, it depends on us. So for a background, 242 00:11:50,360 --> 00:11:53,240 Speaker 4: like I had a YouTube channel for like seven years, 243 00:11:54,000 --> 00:11:56,079 Speaker 4: build it too minu subscribers. Now I own a company 244 00:11:56,080 --> 00:11:59,440 Speaker 4: where would basically work with celebrities and brands on YouTube channels. 245 00:11:59,640 --> 00:12:03,319 Speaker 4: So will basically build out like different celebrities YouTube channels 246 00:12:03,440 --> 00:12:05,280 Speaker 4: or like more on the brand side, like do all 247 00:12:05,280 --> 00:12:08,839 Speaker 4: of their optimization for their content. And what we'll do 248 00:12:09,200 --> 00:12:12,040 Speaker 4: is every channel that we work with, we want to 249 00:12:12,080 --> 00:12:14,680 Speaker 4: have like a specific audience, not necessarily like a niche, 250 00:12:14,720 --> 00:12:18,200 Speaker 4: but we want to say, okay, you know, I'll give 251 00:12:18,240 --> 00:12:21,040 Speaker 4: you an example. You know, the Professor Grayson, the professor 252 00:12:21,080 --> 00:12:23,280 Speaker 4: like the basketball creator, so he's a client of ours, 253 00:12:24,400 --> 00:12:26,280 Speaker 4: and so what we'll do for him is like we're like, okay, 254 00:12:26,640 --> 00:12:29,480 Speaker 4: your audience is aged, you know, xyz whatever it is. 255 00:12:29,800 --> 00:12:32,080 Speaker 4: And then we'll make sure each content, each video idea 256 00:12:32,160 --> 00:12:35,240 Speaker 4: is related and directly appealing to that audience, or what 257 00:12:35,320 --> 00:12:37,000 Speaker 4: I used to think about when I was making videos 258 00:12:37,040 --> 00:12:40,000 Speaker 4: is I would say, Okay, my audience is aged, you know, 259 00:12:40,120 --> 00:12:43,480 Speaker 4: probably twelve through eighteen, and they're like probably like sixty 260 00:12:43,520 --> 00:12:46,560 Speaker 4: forty female to male split, So I'd say, okay, yeah, 261 00:12:46,720 --> 00:12:49,079 Speaker 4: I'd be like, what does every you know, fifteen year 262 00:12:49,080 --> 00:12:51,719 Speaker 4: old guy think about? And it's school, you know what 263 00:12:51,800 --> 00:12:53,560 Speaker 4: I mean? Like schools and obvious, like that's what they're 264 00:12:53,559 --> 00:12:55,839 Speaker 4: doing all day, every day. They're consistently it's in their mind. 265 00:12:56,040 --> 00:12:57,920 Speaker 4: So then a concept I'd come up with would be like, 266 00:12:58,280 --> 00:13:00,600 Speaker 4: I survive the world strict to school. So it's like 267 00:13:00,800 --> 00:13:03,280 Speaker 4: a cool twist on it because it's like funny, it's entertaining, 268 00:13:03,440 --> 00:13:05,480 Speaker 4: but it also has something that's constantly in their minds. 269 00:13:05,520 --> 00:13:07,600 Speaker 4: So that's kind of I don't know if that answers 270 00:13:07,600 --> 00:13:08,280 Speaker 4: your question, but that's. 271 00:13:08,240 --> 00:13:10,480 Speaker 2: Kind of I no, no, for sure, but I think 272 00:13:10,520 --> 00:13:13,240 Speaker 2: some people think they're like, well, well, back up, Hudson, 273 00:13:13,640 --> 00:13:16,440 Speaker 2: you built your channel over seven years to two million subs. 274 00:13:16,600 --> 00:13:19,480 Speaker 2: I mean, listen, my son who is just turned fifteen. 275 00:13:19,760 --> 00:13:21,240 Speaker 2: He's the one who told me, Dad, you need a 276 00:13:21,280 --> 00:13:21,880 Speaker 2: YouTube page. 277 00:13:21,920 --> 00:13:22,439 Speaker 3: All all my. 278 00:13:22,360 --> 00:13:24,160 Speaker 2: Friends at school are like, oh, I see him on 279 00:13:24,200 --> 00:13:27,319 Speaker 2: the on YouTube, and my son's like he's on TV, 280 00:13:27,480 --> 00:13:31,080 Speaker 2: and like, no kids watch TV apparently, so they like, 281 00:13:31,160 --> 00:13:32,840 Speaker 2: you got to you gotta get on YouTube. So I'm 282 00:13:32,840 --> 00:13:35,680 Speaker 2: but it takes forever to get followers on YouTube. So 283 00:13:35,720 --> 00:13:37,800 Speaker 2: would you tell us to us about growing to two 284 00:13:37,840 --> 00:13:40,840 Speaker 2: million from spratsh because that's kind of that's kind of impressive, 285 00:13:41,880 --> 00:13:42,200 Speaker 2: thank you. 286 00:13:42,240 --> 00:13:44,480 Speaker 4: I mean yeah, I mean, dude, the thing like YouTube 287 00:13:44,760 --> 00:13:47,079 Speaker 4: is for people who don't know, like YouTube is the 288 00:13:47,160 --> 00:13:49,959 Speaker 4: number one streaming platform on TV, so over Netflix, over 289 00:13:50,040 --> 00:13:53,520 Speaker 4: cable television, over Hulu, and over any streaming platform. YouTube 290 00:13:53,880 --> 00:13:56,840 Speaker 4: is what people watch on TV and then also obviously 291 00:13:56,840 --> 00:14:00,360 Speaker 4: on their phones, tablets, computers, et cetera. So that kind 292 00:14:00,360 --> 00:14:01,800 Speaker 4: of I think can show the power of it and 293 00:14:01,840 --> 00:14:04,040 Speaker 4: why like most kids kind of flood to it. It's like, oh, 294 00:14:04,040 --> 00:14:07,880 Speaker 4: you need a YouTube channel whatever. I think a lot 295 00:14:07,960 --> 00:14:10,320 Speaker 4: of it is. I mean, I can talk on and 296 00:14:10,360 --> 00:14:12,840 Speaker 4: on about like how to build a YouTube channel. I 297 00:14:12,840 --> 00:14:14,480 Speaker 4: would say that if I left you with like two 298 00:14:14,520 --> 00:14:17,560 Speaker 4: main points, it would be one is consistency, and that's 299 00:14:17,600 --> 00:14:19,920 Speaker 4: pretty obvious, so I'll just I'll still say it. But 300 00:14:19,960 --> 00:14:23,280 Speaker 4: it's like, you know, upload videos consistently, don't give up, 301 00:14:23,280 --> 00:14:25,720 Speaker 4: and then like each video, try to learn something. So 302 00:14:25,920 --> 00:14:28,680 Speaker 4: study the analytics behind the video. Go into YouTube studio, 303 00:14:28,720 --> 00:14:30,880 Speaker 4: which is basically where you see the retention graph, that 304 00:14:30,920 --> 00:14:33,080 Speaker 4: click the rate, all of that kind of nitty gritty details. 305 00:14:33,240 --> 00:14:35,320 Speaker 4: Try to study those and then be like, Okay, how 306 00:14:35,320 --> 00:14:37,240 Speaker 4: can I improve something for the for the next video, 307 00:14:37,320 --> 00:14:39,760 Speaker 4: And then just do that every time, and then eventually, 308 00:14:39,920 --> 00:14:42,200 Speaker 4: after you make like thirty forty videos, they'll start to 309 00:14:42,240 --> 00:14:44,080 Speaker 4: pick up viewership. And then you just keep going and 310 00:14:44,120 --> 00:14:44,560 Speaker 4: going and going. 311 00:14:44,880 --> 00:14:49,840 Speaker 2: Yeah. Any easier said than done. It's like, so, were 312 00:14:49,840 --> 00:14:52,640 Speaker 2: you doing this all by yourself? I know, obviously your 313 00:14:52,720 --> 00:14:55,360 Speaker 2: dad's a pretty prominent YouTuber, is your I don't know 314 00:14:55,360 --> 00:14:57,600 Speaker 2: if your was your mammy YouTuber? You like, did you 315 00:14:57,640 --> 00:14:59,680 Speaker 2: grow up basically saying hey, you're doing this from an 316 00:14:59,680 --> 00:15:01,440 Speaker 2: early not at all. 317 00:15:01,480 --> 00:15:03,400 Speaker 4: I actually told my dad to start his channel when 318 00:15:03,440 --> 00:15:05,680 Speaker 4: he was like and when I was probably eleven or twelve, 319 00:15:05,720 --> 00:15:08,280 Speaker 4: because he was a whop. Yeah. He was a photographer 320 00:15:08,280 --> 00:15:10,520 Speaker 4: in New York City. He was doing like dance photography, 321 00:15:11,160 --> 00:15:12,640 Speaker 4: and I was like, hey, you make you have an 322 00:15:12,640 --> 00:15:15,120 Speaker 4: interesting life, you should make videos about it. He's like okay, 323 00:15:15,160 --> 00:15:16,800 Speaker 4: and then that did well, and then I started my 324 00:15:16,880 --> 00:15:19,360 Speaker 4: channel when I was thirteen, Yeah, June of twenty nineteen. 325 00:15:20,640 --> 00:15:23,760 Speaker 4: And yes, it's it's so, I guess I kind of 326 00:15:23,760 --> 00:15:25,400 Speaker 4: did grow up doing it. But it wasn't like the 327 00:15:25,480 --> 00:15:27,320 Speaker 4: kind of thing where I knew I would be a 328 00:15:27,360 --> 00:15:29,280 Speaker 4: YouTuber when I was born. It wasn't like, you know, 329 00:15:29,400 --> 00:15:31,200 Speaker 4: Bronnie Bronnie playing in the NBA. 330 00:15:32,840 --> 00:15:34,840 Speaker 3: Stop stop taking shot to Bronnie. 331 00:15:35,120 --> 00:15:38,480 Speaker 4: No, no, let me asks Bronnie. I love Bronnie. He's great. 332 00:15:38,960 --> 00:15:40,320 Speaker 3: Good by the way, do you know him at all? 333 00:15:40,400 --> 00:15:40,960 Speaker 2: Or no? 334 00:15:40,960 --> 00:15:43,200 Speaker 4: No, no, no, I wish, I wish you're rooting for him. 335 00:15:43,200 --> 00:15:43,480 Speaker 4: All right. 336 00:15:43,480 --> 00:15:46,720 Speaker 2: So, so, like you become a YouTuber in I guess 337 00:15:46,800 --> 00:15:49,920 Speaker 2: middle school, and then in high school you're kind of 338 00:15:49,920 --> 00:15:53,280 Speaker 2: a big deal on YouTube. Did that interact with your 339 00:15:53,440 --> 00:15:55,800 Speaker 2: work and stuff? Were you like kind of famous in 340 00:15:55,880 --> 00:15:56,400 Speaker 2: high school? 341 00:15:58,040 --> 00:16:00,840 Speaker 4: Honestly? So it was weird when the channel got big 342 00:16:00,880 --> 00:16:03,240 Speaker 4: actually was during COVID, and then I grew up to 343 00:16:03,240 --> 00:16:04,520 Speaker 4: in New York, and then when I was like fifteen, 344 00:16:04,560 --> 00:16:11,320 Speaker 4: we moved to California, And when I moved there, I was, Yeah, 345 00:16:11,440 --> 00:16:12,920 Speaker 4: I was in high school, and honestly, I just like 346 00:16:12,920 --> 00:16:15,720 Speaker 4: didn't tell anybody about it, and then people kind of 347 00:16:15,720 --> 00:16:19,720 Speaker 4: started to find out and then like I was, I 348 00:16:19,720 --> 00:16:21,960 Speaker 4: wouldn't say it made me honestly, like that crazy popular 349 00:16:22,000 --> 00:16:23,760 Speaker 4: or anything. I think it's like because I went to 350 00:16:23,760 --> 00:16:26,280 Speaker 4: a smaller school, so people didn't really care. I think 351 00:16:26,280 --> 00:16:27,880 Speaker 4: when they found out, they're like, oh, that's cool. But 352 00:16:27,880 --> 00:16:31,680 Speaker 4: then I kind of, yeah, kind of normal after probably 353 00:16:31,680 --> 00:16:33,240 Speaker 4: a month or so, so nothing crazy. 354 00:16:34,080 --> 00:16:36,360 Speaker 2: But then you graduate high school and I mean, I 355 00:16:36,360 --> 00:16:38,160 Speaker 2: haven't even asked, did you go to college or did 356 00:16:38,240 --> 00:16:40,200 Speaker 2: you just say I'm going to be an influencer. 357 00:16:40,680 --> 00:16:42,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, no, I wanted to be creator and then like 358 00:16:42,800 --> 00:16:47,000 Speaker 4: business owner, and no, I never even considered going to college. 359 00:16:47,040 --> 00:16:48,760 Speaker 4: I think my GPA in high school was probably like 360 00:16:48,760 --> 00:16:49,320 Speaker 4: one point eight. 361 00:16:50,200 --> 00:16:50,960 Speaker 2: Oh shucks. 362 00:16:51,000 --> 00:16:52,280 Speaker 3: Wow, I won't tell my son that. 363 00:16:52,320 --> 00:16:52,560 Speaker 4: Wait. 364 00:16:52,600 --> 00:16:55,600 Speaker 2: Interesting, you use the word creator instead of influencer. Is 365 00:16:55,600 --> 00:16:58,240 Speaker 2: that is influencer like kind of a grimy term? People 366 00:16:58,320 --> 00:16:59,600 Speaker 2: are shot kind of move away from that. 367 00:17:01,040 --> 00:17:04,560 Speaker 4: I mean, bro, I don't know. I think I think 368 00:17:04,600 --> 00:17:06,399 Speaker 4: I wouldn't say it's a grimey turn. I turn. I 369 00:17:06,440 --> 00:17:08,399 Speaker 4: know a lot of people don't necessarily like to be 370 00:17:08,400 --> 00:17:10,360 Speaker 4: referred to as influencers, but I don't I don't know. 371 00:17:10,560 --> 00:17:12,920 Speaker 4: I just say creator because I don't know. I guess 372 00:17:12,920 --> 00:17:14,439 Speaker 4: that's what I just grew up saying. I don't have 373 00:17:14,480 --> 00:17:16,200 Speaker 4: any any opinion on it, to be honest. 374 00:17:16,880 --> 00:17:19,240 Speaker 2: So then I follow you on IG and I see like, yeah, again, 375 00:17:19,280 --> 00:17:21,600 Speaker 2: this is a guy who plays in my men's basketball league. 376 00:17:21,680 --> 00:17:24,360 Speaker 2: He's funny, talks a lot of shit, and next thing 377 00:17:24,359 --> 00:17:27,959 Speaker 2: you know, like he's traveling to China to talk on 378 00:17:28,080 --> 00:17:30,679 Speaker 2: some bid I'm like, wait, what's going on, Hudson? So 379 00:17:30,720 --> 00:17:32,879 Speaker 2: when did you start getting invited to these like I 380 00:17:32,880 --> 00:17:35,280 Speaker 2: don't know, baller trips, creator trips, whatever they're called. 381 00:17:35,880 --> 00:17:38,960 Speaker 4: Ooh, that's a good question. Actually, I don't know. I 382 00:17:38,960 --> 00:17:40,879 Speaker 4: think it started the first time I ever talked on 383 00:17:41,000 --> 00:17:43,959 Speaker 4: stage was at this event called VID Summit like two 384 00:17:44,040 --> 00:17:47,439 Speaker 4: years ago, and then I talked there, and then I 385 00:17:47,480 --> 00:17:49,879 Speaker 4: honestly just started doing outreach. If I knew people who 386 00:17:49,920 --> 00:17:52,160 Speaker 4: were going to events, I'd be like, oh, this would 387 00:17:52,160 --> 00:17:53,840 Speaker 4: be beneficial for me to like talk in front of 388 00:17:53,880 --> 00:17:57,200 Speaker 4: these brands or whatever, and so I would ask them 389 00:17:57,280 --> 00:17:59,280 Speaker 4: be like, oh, who put who'd you get in touch with? 390 00:17:59,320 --> 00:18:01,840 Speaker 4: Like can I have their I'd message them, I say, hey, 391 00:18:01,880 --> 00:18:04,760 Speaker 4: this is what I'm you know, doing, building any chance 392 00:18:05,200 --> 00:18:07,680 Speaker 4: you want me to speak and then that would work 393 00:18:07,760 --> 00:18:10,600 Speaker 4: sometimes or they just like reach out. So it also 394 00:18:10,720 --> 00:18:12,680 Speaker 4: just depends to be honest with you. But it's a 395 00:18:12,720 --> 00:18:14,840 Speaker 4: lot of fun. I love I love traveling and getting 396 00:18:15,000 --> 00:18:16,520 Speaker 4: to experience these things. 397 00:18:16,760 --> 00:18:18,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, dude, I mean you're what twenty? 398 00:18:18,000 --> 00:18:19,200 Speaker 2: How old do you bother? Do you want to say? 399 00:18:19,280 --> 00:18:19,439 Speaker 2: Or no? 400 00:18:19,680 --> 00:18:21,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I just turned were not just anymore while 401 00:18:21,800 --> 00:18:22,960 Speaker 4: it's April. No, I'm twenty. 402 00:18:23,040 --> 00:18:24,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, Oh you're twenty. 403 00:18:24,800 --> 00:18:27,040 Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, I felt I damn. 404 00:18:26,760 --> 00:18:30,359 Speaker 2: Dude, flying around the world to talk about your job, 405 00:18:30,400 --> 00:18:31,399 Speaker 2: which is being created. 406 00:18:31,400 --> 00:18:32,480 Speaker 3: That's amazing. 407 00:18:33,480 --> 00:18:35,120 Speaker 2: So I guess I guess a lot before we get 408 00:18:35,160 --> 00:18:37,760 Speaker 2: to like actual sports. I'm just curious, what what do 409 00:18:37,800 --> 00:18:40,320 Speaker 2: you see as Like, again, you're twenty, that's super young. 410 00:18:40,440 --> 00:18:42,640 Speaker 2: You got your own business, your own company. That's amazing, 411 00:18:42,960 --> 00:18:44,760 Speaker 2: But like, what do you see as next? Do you 412 00:18:44,840 --> 00:18:46,439 Speaker 2: have it mapped out? Are you just like, hey, this 413 00:18:46,520 --> 00:18:48,280 Speaker 2: is what's happening now. I don't really care about five 414 00:18:48,280 --> 00:18:50,320 Speaker 2: ten years from now now. 415 00:18:50,359 --> 00:18:52,000 Speaker 4: I mean I want to I would say my ten 416 00:18:52,040 --> 00:18:54,520 Speaker 4: year goal is to build like a one hundred million 417 00:18:54,560 --> 00:18:57,280 Speaker 4: dollar plus company. That's my that's my goal, and then 418 00:18:57,359 --> 00:18:59,360 Speaker 4: eventually I want to be president one day. But that's 419 00:18:59,520 --> 00:18:59,840 Speaker 4: you know. 420 00:18:59,800 --> 00:19:02,639 Speaker 2: That president of the company or of the United States. 421 00:19:02,800 --> 00:19:05,000 Speaker 4: No, of the United States, But that's like a you know, 422 00:19:05,119 --> 00:19:05,800 Speaker 4: twenty year goal. 423 00:19:06,359 --> 00:19:08,160 Speaker 2: I mean, Chucks, they could probably use you in there now. 424 00:19:08,160 --> 00:19:09,439 Speaker 2: So it's not looking good, bro. 425 00:19:09,640 --> 00:19:14,119 Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, the Creator division, no, but they yeah, no. 426 00:19:14,240 --> 00:19:15,920 Speaker 4: That I would say, I want to build a really 427 00:19:15,960 --> 00:19:19,720 Speaker 4: big company is my goal. I would say that just 428 00:19:19,800 --> 00:19:21,880 Speaker 4: anything I can do to do that would be would 429 00:19:21,920 --> 00:19:23,720 Speaker 4: be the goal. So that's my main focus. 430 00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:27,280 Speaker 2: I know AI is kind of cutting edge. I'm just curious. 431 00:19:27,320 --> 00:19:29,600 Speaker 3: Are you incorporating it at all in what you do? 432 00:19:30,480 --> 00:19:34,159 Speaker 4: Yeah, definitely. I mean I think AI is huge. I 433 00:19:34,200 --> 00:19:39,240 Speaker 4: think my perspective on AI's like it's more or less complex. 434 00:19:39,280 --> 00:19:41,600 Speaker 4: But my feeling on it is I think it's not 435 00:19:41,640 --> 00:19:45,440 Speaker 4: going to necessarily replace significant amount of the workforce. I think, 436 00:19:45,480 --> 00:19:48,000 Speaker 4: at least right now, I think the best tool is 437 00:19:48,280 --> 00:19:51,320 Speaker 4: just utilizing it compared to worrying about it like being 438 00:19:51,359 --> 00:19:54,600 Speaker 4: a replacement. I could see it coming from for a 439 00:19:54,640 --> 00:19:57,679 Speaker 4: lot of like white collar jobs in terms of lawyers 440 00:19:58,240 --> 00:20:01,560 Speaker 4: or engineers potentially and like the next ten twenty years. 441 00:20:02,480 --> 00:20:05,280 Speaker 4: But I mean it there's tons of ways to utilize it. 442 00:20:05,320 --> 00:20:07,280 Speaker 4: I think, like the AI revolution is happening now and 443 00:20:07,600 --> 00:20:11,199 Speaker 4: faster than I could imagine. Like even just think about it. 444 00:20:11,200 --> 00:20:13,919 Speaker 4: A few years ago, I used chat GBT, Like I've 445 00:20:14,000 --> 00:20:16,520 Speaker 4: essentially trained my chat GBT to know everything about like 446 00:20:16,560 --> 00:20:19,040 Speaker 4: my business stuff, so I can ask it questions. I 447 00:20:19,080 --> 00:20:23,040 Speaker 4: was literally doing that before we jumped on here. But yeah, 448 00:20:23,080 --> 00:20:24,600 Speaker 4: I mean, I think AI is gonna be huge, and 449 00:20:24,600 --> 00:20:26,679 Speaker 4: I think it's gonna make a huge impact on the 450 00:20:26,720 --> 00:20:29,280 Speaker 4: creator economy, just like it will with any other industry. 451 00:20:29,320 --> 00:20:31,440 Speaker 2: So I know your team is there, and I don't know, 452 00:20:31,480 --> 00:20:33,679 Speaker 2: hopefully they're not listening, but like, are they worried that 453 00:20:34,280 --> 00:20:36,520 Speaker 2: the heck there could they could get replaced? I mean, 454 00:20:36,560 --> 00:20:38,720 Speaker 2: you guys were a couple of guys and I know 455 00:20:38,720 --> 00:20:40,359 Speaker 2: they're kind of ducking out of the camera, but like, 456 00:20:40,920 --> 00:20:42,320 Speaker 2: I don't know, man, think about it. 457 00:20:42,359 --> 00:20:43,600 Speaker 3: You know, Hudson, you just said it. 458 00:20:43,640 --> 00:20:47,040 Speaker 2: You're using uh, you know AI all the time. Have 459 00:20:47,160 --> 00:20:48,719 Speaker 2: you got four guys on your team? Well? 460 00:20:48,760 --> 00:20:51,480 Speaker 3: Can I can I pay only two with the help 461 00:20:51,520 --> 00:20:52,520 Speaker 3: of AI? I don't know. 462 00:20:52,560 --> 00:20:54,359 Speaker 2: Does that stuff cross your mind at all? 463 00:20:55,359 --> 00:20:57,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, they're cooked? Actually, you guys, you guys can leave. 464 00:20:57,920 --> 00:21:00,560 Speaker 2: Well, no, being a creator obviously, that's what a I 465 00:21:00,640 --> 00:21:03,280 Speaker 2: can't do. It can't come up with original unique guy. 466 00:21:03,320 --> 00:21:06,280 Speaker 2: They're AI is not starting businesses, you know, I mean 467 00:21:06,320 --> 00:21:09,200 Speaker 2: they I mean, they can help you, but they can't 468 00:21:09,240 --> 00:21:10,280 Speaker 2: come up with one on their own. 469 00:21:10,840 --> 00:21:11,040 Speaker 4: Yeah. 470 00:21:11,200 --> 00:21:14,600 Speaker 2: I if that happens, we're all screwed. But I don't 471 00:21:14,640 --> 00:21:15,720 Speaker 2: see that happening anytime. 472 00:21:16,280 --> 00:21:18,920 Speaker 4: No, I mean, we'll see, we'll see. I think I'm 473 00:21:18,960 --> 00:21:21,320 Speaker 4: not too worried about it in terms of like my 474 00:21:21,480 --> 00:21:24,000 Speaker 4: team or like talent that I acquire, because I think, 475 00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:26,439 Speaker 4: at least in this current moment, you still need people 476 00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:29,280 Speaker 4: to train it, you know what I mean. So you 477 00:21:29,320 --> 00:21:32,760 Speaker 4: even like if I was doing it or like everything, 478 00:21:32,800 --> 00:21:35,240 Speaker 4: they're not going to be able to like pay the 479 00:21:35,240 --> 00:21:37,800 Speaker 4: payroll or come up with creative ideas or like produce 480 00:21:37,920 --> 00:21:40,960 Speaker 4: videos or whatever. So no, these guys are amazing. Like 481 00:21:41,040 --> 00:21:43,560 Speaker 4: I A, I couldn't just like replace them, all right. 482 00:21:43,600 --> 00:21:44,920 Speaker 4: I gave you guys your flowers. 483 00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:48,320 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 484 00:21:48,359 --> 00:21:51,720 Speaker 1: the nation. Catch all of our shows at Foxsports Radio 485 00:21:51,880 --> 00:21:55,960 Speaker 1: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to 486 00:21:56,080 --> 00:21:56,720 Speaker 1: listen live. 487 00:21:58,119 --> 00:21:59,880 Speaker 3: I had a buddy who played hoops with us at Bake. 488 00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:03,280 Speaker 2: He's a fine player, but single guy about twenty seven 489 00:22:03,320 --> 00:22:06,080 Speaker 2: ish and he would go out in La and girls 490 00:22:06,119 --> 00:22:07,919 Speaker 2: would be like, yeah, how many Instagram followers do you have? 491 00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:10,560 Speaker 3: Like early in the discussion and he's like, what are 492 00:22:10,560 --> 00:22:10,920 Speaker 3: you talking? 493 00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:14,560 Speaker 2: Who cares? And eventually he moved to Arizona with a 494 00:22:14,560 --> 00:22:16,919 Speaker 2: bunch with some friends or whatever. He's having fun and whatever. 495 00:22:17,119 --> 00:22:18,920 Speaker 2: But I'm just curious, do you get that a lot 496 00:22:18,960 --> 00:22:21,840 Speaker 2: as a single young guy? And when girls here, oh 497 00:22:22,119 --> 00:22:24,480 Speaker 2: you have how many followers? Are they more like, oh, 498 00:22:24,520 --> 00:22:26,760 Speaker 2: you're big on TikTok and YouTube. I want to kind 499 00:22:26,760 --> 00:22:28,240 Speaker 2: of get in your orbit. Are you getting that? And 500 00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:29,320 Speaker 2: you could be honest. 501 00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:35,640 Speaker 4: Oh man, that's funny. The girl I'm actually currently seeing, 502 00:22:35,840 --> 00:22:38,960 Speaker 4: which is funny? Is I actually? I DMed her on Instagram? 503 00:22:39,560 --> 00:22:43,400 Speaker 4: So funny you mentioned that I yea sliding to her DM. 504 00:22:43,520 --> 00:22:46,080 Speaker 4: Super original. I followed her and then she followed me back, 505 00:22:46,119 --> 00:22:48,240 Speaker 4: probably partially because I have a you have a lot 506 00:22:48,280 --> 00:22:48,840 Speaker 4: of followers? 507 00:22:49,040 --> 00:22:52,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's unfair of regular guys at bars can't 508 00:22:52,359 --> 00:22:52,800 Speaker 2: have with you. 509 00:22:52,880 --> 00:22:55,560 Speaker 4: Bro. Hey, bro, you got like two hundred thousand. You 510 00:22:55,600 --> 00:22:56,240 Speaker 4: can't be completed. 511 00:22:56,320 --> 00:22:58,479 Speaker 2: I do not have close to that on Instagram, and 512 00:22:58,560 --> 00:23:01,040 Speaker 2: I have, like you said, you sixty percent girls I 513 00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:05,240 Speaker 2: have I think ninety four percent guys, sports fans, no women. 514 00:23:05,040 --> 00:23:07,240 Speaker 4: Know who you got to verify now you're on TV or. 515 00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:09,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, dude, we could go to a Laker game together 516 00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:11,119 Speaker 2: and I would guarantee you people are coming up to 517 00:23:11,119 --> 00:23:13,000 Speaker 2: you because because I saw Brandon and Sam in a game, 518 00:23:13,480 --> 00:23:14,800 Speaker 2: I can help get them tickets. 519 00:23:15,119 --> 00:23:17,679 Speaker 3: And a couple guys came up to me and we're 520 00:23:17,720 --> 00:23:19,719 Speaker 3: like can I get a picture? And Braiden was like, stunt. 521 00:23:20,119 --> 00:23:22,560 Speaker 3: So I can only imagine what it would be like for. 522 00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:25,200 Speaker 4: You, honestly, do a game as much more because you're 523 00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:25,880 Speaker 4: a sports guy. 524 00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:28,639 Speaker 3: Yeah, but you're a YouTuber, dude, and that's where everybody is. 525 00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:30,680 Speaker 4: That's true. I mean yeah, I think it just depends, dude. 526 00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:34,960 Speaker 4: If I was like, yeah, you know, completely depends on 527 00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:36,160 Speaker 4: where I am. If I was like at a dance 528 00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:37,960 Speaker 4: recital or something, which I don't know why i'd be there, 529 00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:40,320 Speaker 4: but if I was like, they'd probably be a lot 530 00:23:40,359 --> 00:23:43,680 Speaker 4: more people there. I don't know, Bro, It's fun, Yeah, 531 00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:44,879 Speaker 4: it's it's it's really funny. 532 00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:49,640 Speaker 2: Honestly, all right, let's get to your game. Uh. On 533 00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:52,359 Speaker 2: my teams at the Big Club, I like to do 534 00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:53,679 Speaker 2: I do a text spread with the team and I 535 00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:56,640 Speaker 2: give out NBA comps if you were on the squad, 536 00:23:57,040 --> 00:24:00,160 Speaker 2: who would be your NBA comps? And be realistic, say 537 00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:04,240 Speaker 2: Steph Curry For myself, I say Steph Curry slash Jose Alvarado. 538 00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:05,439 Speaker 4: Okay, I like that. 539 00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:08,040 Speaker 2: I like that, which is terrible, but it's funny. So 540 00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:09,639 Speaker 2: I'm just curious to get people an idea of what 541 00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:12,080 Speaker 2: your compass. First of all, you're lefty, right, I'm lefty. 542 00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:14,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, I would say I'd say I'm like a nice, 543 00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:16,280 Speaker 4: nice little lebron. No, I'm just. 544 00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:21,320 Speaker 2: It's funny. You have a shot that looks similar to 545 00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:23,760 Speaker 2: Tayshaun Prince. Do you remember him? 546 00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:24,280 Speaker 1: That is? 547 00:24:24,359 --> 00:24:25,199 Speaker 3: You don't even know who that is? 548 00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:27,080 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, Detroit, but you were born in two 549 00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:28,879 Speaker 2: thousand and six. Yeah, he was in the finals with 550 00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:29,440 Speaker 2: the Pistons. 551 00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:30,320 Speaker 1: I mean he was long. 552 00:24:30,359 --> 00:24:32,880 Speaker 2: I think he was All American in college, a couple 553 00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:35,800 Speaker 2: time All Star. Just an amazing defender, which you know, 554 00:24:35,840 --> 00:24:38,600 Speaker 2: no disrespect you're not. You're a good shooter though. 555 00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:40,440 Speaker 3: You could stroke it from deep, bro, that's your game. 556 00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:42,760 Speaker 2: Why why are you laughing? Anyways? 557 00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:45,000 Speaker 4: All right, So working on my defense, bro, I've been 558 00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:47,840 Speaker 4: I've been in the gym training no, but I I 559 00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:49,920 Speaker 4: locked up a few of your guys in that last 560 00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:50,639 Speaker 4: in that playoff game. 561 00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:51,680 Speaker 3: Probably yeah. 562 00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:53,880 Speaker 4: I held Brighton to like fifty points, which is pretty 563 00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:55,680 Speaker 4: low for him. 564 00:24:55,720 --> 00:24:58,600 Speaker 2: All Right, So let's get to the Knicks. A. If 565 00:24:58,640 --> 00:25:01,280 Speaker 2: they don't get to the NBA Finals, do they try 566 00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:03,280 Speaker 2: to trade for Yannis and be who do they trade 567 00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:03,880 Speaker 2: in that deal? 568 00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:06,280 Speaker 4: Oh? Now we're talking my life. 569 00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:08,280 Speaker 2: Unless you don't want to ship beyond it, you don't 570 00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:09,320 Speaker 2: want Giannis on the Knicks. 571 00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:13,160 Speaker 4: It depends what factors we'd give up if we don't 572 00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:17,159 Speaker 4: make the finals or at least don't win. If we 573 00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:19,000 Speaker 4: don't either make the finals or go to Game seven 574 00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:21,480 Speaker 4: in the Eastern Conference Finals, we have to do a 575 00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:24,040 Speaker 4: lot of changes. I think I don't know how I 576 00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:25,920 Speaker 4: feel about Mike Brown yet. I like him a lot, 577 00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:29,120 Speaker 4: but I also think that he I think he's gotten 578 00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:31,560 Speaker 4: more like aggressive. I think in the beginning of the 579 00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:33,080 Speaker 4: season he was too soft and that led to one 580 00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:35,480 Speaker 4: of the falls. I think he's gotten more aggressive, which 581 00:25:35,480 --> 00:25:38,760 Speaker 4: I like, like getting a few technicals against that Like 582 00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:41,720 Speaker 4: okay c game when they gave those BS ref calls 583 00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:45,520 Speaker 4: like that was good. I was at that game. I 584 00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:49,480 Speaker 4: think I think about Yannis. I don't know, dude, if 585 00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:53,800 Speaker 4: we trade for him, I don't necessarily the way I 586 00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:56,600 Speaker 4: see it is I don't think Giannis actually solves, much 587 00:25:56,640 --> 00:25:58,320 Speaker 4: like I don't think that the Knicks are a team. 588 00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:01,159 Speaker 4: Like I don't think that the way the NBA is 589 00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:05,040 Speaker 4: going currently is it is a it's a league of 590 00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:07,280 Speaker 4: super teams, you know what I mean. I think, like 591 00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:11,720 Speaker 4: when you see the super teams that exist now, which 592 00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:13,840 Speaker 4: would might might even be like the Lakers, which are 593 00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:16,080 Speaker 4: looking good right now, but they, in my opinion, there'll 594 00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:20,280 Speaker 4: be a second round exit, like when you have Luca 595 00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:24,080 Speaker 4: Lebron Austin Reeves. I don't necessarily think it's a league 596 00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:26,200 Speaker 4: of superstars anymore. And I think that was the issue 597 00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:28,919 Speaker 4: with like when the Bucks traded for Damian Lillard and 598 00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:30,480 Speaker 4: now look at them now because they traded so many 599 00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:32,760 Speaker 4: pieces away. I think that's part of the issue in 600 00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:34,400 Speaker 4: today's NBA. I mean, you know a lot more about 601 00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:36,800 Speaker 4: the snideer, but that would be my perspective. So I 602 00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:39,280 Speaker 4: don't necessarily think, like, oh, let's get Yannis as a 603 00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:42,399 Speaker 4: replacement for Kat and then have him and Jalen Brunson together, 604 00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:44,560 Speaker 4: because realistically it's not going to be a one to 605 00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:47,840 Speaker 4: one trade. We'll give away Jose Alvarado might maybe Colick, 606 00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:50,120 Speaker 4: maybe Michel Bridges. Oh yeah, what if. 607 00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:52,760 Speaker 2: They wanted Bridges? Bridges and Cap would you do that? 608 00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:56,960 Speaker 2: I mean, two starters for a guy coming off major injuries. 609 00:26:57,960 --> 00:26:58,640 Speaker 2: You could be right. 610 00:26:58,680 --> 00:26:59,720 Speaker 3: I don't know that that works. 611 00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:02,880 Speaker 4: I don't know. I think what we need honestly. I think, 612 00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:05,320 Speaker 4: honestly what the Knicks need is a culture. I think 613 00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:08,000 Speaker 4: we have the talent, like I think this roster has 614 00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:11,440 Speaker 4: the talent. I just think we need we need better culture. 615 00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:13,720 Speaker 4: I think the guys right now don't look like happy 616 00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:16,320 Speaker 4: with each other as much as they should. I think 617 00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:19,040 Speaker 4: they we give up too much defensively. I think we 618 00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:21,440 Speaker 4: need to start games stronger. I think we don't take 619 00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:24,280 Speaker 4: our opponents seriously enough, especially if, like there's no way 620 00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:27,600 Speaker 4: the Rockets, who we beat in MSG, came out to 621 00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:29,560 Speaker 4: like a twenty point lead in the first quarter. That 622 00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:30,359 Speaker 4: just should not happen. 623 00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:34,439 Speaker 2: So where are you on MVP for this season? It's 624 00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:36,840 Speaker 2: largely and we're recording this right before Lakers Thunder game, 625 00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:41,679 Speaker 2: it's largely Jokic, Sga, Wemby and Luca break break that 626 00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:43,280 Speaker 2: down for me. If you had a ballot, who were 627 00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:45,320 Speaker 2: your top Actually, you might as well do five top five. 628 00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:47,680 Speaker 4: That's fine. I mean, first of all, it's funny is 629 00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:49,399 Speaker 4: that everyone that you listen is in the West. Like 630 00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:52,960 Speaker 4: the West in terms of like player people like players 631 00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:55,800 Speaker 4: aren't like so much better than the East overwhelmingly. But 632 00:27:57,160 --> 00:27:59,680 Speaker 4: I would say I think it should be Luca. I 633 00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:02,560 Speaker 4: think he's done, especially later in the season, is unbelievable. 634 00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:07,600 Speaker 4: I like Luke a lot, great player, very motivated. I 635 00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:10,080 Speaker 4: think Shay is nice, but I think a little bit 636 00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:11,600 Speaker 4: of a foulbator, but I think he's Yeah, you know, 637 00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:16,200 Speaker 4: he's amazing. I don't know how I feel about Wemby. 638 00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:18,359 Speaker 4: I don't think he's accomplished enough yet. I think I 639 00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:20,639 Speaker 4: think he's He's I could even see him winning like 640 00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:23,720 Speaker 4: most improved player, but like I think, I don't know. 641 00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:25,639 Speaker 4: I think he'll I think Wenby's gonna be like a 642 00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:28,080 Speaker 4: top five player of all time, so all time? 643 00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:31,000 Speaker 2: Well, oh I should ask, let's pause, who are your 644 00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:32,720 Speaker 2: top five players all time? 645 00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:32,920 Speaker 4: Now? 646 00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:35,720 Speaker 2: Remember you were are twenty years old, so you didn't 647 00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:39,640 Speaker 2: even see Magic or Bird. You don't even say Jordan's shit. 648 00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:44,480 Speaker 4: My top five. I'd go Jordan Lebron obviously, wait who's won? 649 00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:47,400 Speaker 4: Oh oh you want order? Okay, okay, okay, oh. 650 00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:49,080 Speaker 2: No, yeah, yeah, I mean I'm gonna start. 651 00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:52,440 Speaker 4: I'm gonna start with five. I'll go Okay, I'm gonna go. 652 00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:56,200 Speaker 4: I'm gonna go Wilt at five. I'm gonna go Kareem 653 00:28:56,480 --> 00:28:59,600 Speaker 4: at four. No, no, no, no, actually no, I'm switching. I'm switching. 654 00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:04,000 Speaker 4: I'm gonna to go Steph at five, Steph Curry. I'm 655 00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:06,680 Speaker 4: gonna because I think potentially he could win win another 656 00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:10,800 Speaker 4: ring at some point. How next year with Jimmy Butler 657 00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:13,400 Speaker 4: book it. Maybe not, probably not, but hey, if they 658 00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:15,240 Speaker 4: trade for some pieces, I could see him. I could 659 00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:17,240 Speaker 4: see him winning one more ring, in which if he did, 660 00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:20,400 Speaker 4: that would he that would be I'll go four, I'll 661 00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:25,040 Speaker 4: go Wilt three, Kareem. Actually, no four, I'm gonna go 662 00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:29,280 Speaker 4: Magic three, Kareem two, MJ one. 663 00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:33,240 Speaker 3: Lebron, No, I don't hate that, Okay, So go back 664 00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:34,240 Speaker 3: to the MVP. 665 00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:35,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, MVP. 666 00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:36,240 Speaker 1: Yeah. 667 00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:38,320 Speaker 4: I think honestly, who you mentioned those are like the 668 00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:40,960 Speaker 4: top four. I think Lucas should win it. I think 669 00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:44,960 Speaker 4: second place should be Jokic because he's just onreal. I 670 00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:49,480 Speaker 4: think third play should be Shay, I'm trying to think fourth. Yeah, 671 00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:52,000 Speaker 4: Wemby should probably be a nominee. How many nominees are there? Four? 672 00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:54,480 Speaker 2: I think there's you vote on like ten maybe, but 673 00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:57,680 Speaker 2: we could just do What about Jaylen Brown? He's probably fifth. 674 00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:02,560 Speaker 4: Bro as a Knicks player, a Jalen Brown. But he's nice. Yeah, 675 00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:05,760 Speaker 4: he's good. He carried the Celtics without Tatum, so I guah, 676 00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:07,640 Speaker 4: respect he's also super nice guy. 677 00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:11,480 Speaker 2: Seemingly, what do you hear all this nonsense about we 678 00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:16,360 Speaker 2: should eliminate like the corner three, I mean, the constant 679 00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:19,040 Speaker 2: talk about tanking. Do you think NBA has a lot 680 00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:20,840 Speaker 2: of the they need to fix or just like guys 681 00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:23,800 Speaker 2: stop complaining and wait till the playoffs are here, everything's 682 00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:24,400 Speaker 2: gonna be fine. 683 00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:26,560 Speaker 4: I mean, I think inherently the issue with tanking is 684 00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:28,800 Speaker 4: there's no way to how do you regulate that? Like 685 00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:32,280 Speaker 4: what do you tell teams, hey, stop complain or stop tanking? 686 00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:35,520 Speaker 4: Like how does that? Like they're not gonna it's impossible 687 00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:38,760 Speaker 4: to to to tell. You saw like that PACER's Clippers 688 00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:40,480 Speaker 4: game where like the guy missed both free throws and 689 00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:43,760 Speaker 4: the clipp player missed both freezers. Like that's terrible. Yeah, 690 00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:46,480 Speaker 4: and pretty clear. But I don't think it necessarily hurts it. 691 00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:48,920 Speaker 4: It makes very clear sense for the NBA player, especially 692 00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:51,120 Speaker 4: with the lottery pick. So I don't know. I think 693 00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:53,480 Speaker 4: I don't necessarily think so. I think the NBA is 694 00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:55,560 Speaker 4: very entertaining. The only thing I would say is probably 695 00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:58,440 Speaker 4: the foul calls. Is that that that especially with the Thunder. 696 00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:01,280 Speaker 4: Oh that that killed me. 697 00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:03,160 Speaker 2: I thought I saw a stat that. So in the 698 00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:06,000 Speaker 2: thunders wins over the Knicks and Pistons this week or 699 00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:09,240 Speaker 2: last eight days or whatever, SGA shot more free throws 700 00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:10,000 Speaker 2: than the other team. 701 00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:11,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, forty one to forty. 702 00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:13,920 Speaker 2: I mean that's what are we doing? 703 00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:15,040 Speaker 4: Yeah? 704 00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:16,800 Speaker 2: The free throw merchant stuff is real. I know the 705 00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:18,440 Speaker 2: thunder fans hate that, but it's real. 706 00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:21,960 Speaker 4: Hey, I don't disagree with you, all right. 707 00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:23,280 Speaker 3: So who's in the NBA finals this year? 708 00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:24,880 Speaker 2: Who you got? 709 00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:30,400 Speaker 4: I think? I'm okay, here's the thing you're probably gonna 710 00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:32,680 Speaker 4: clown on me, and I am here's what I'm gonna do. Here. 711 00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:34,800 Speaker 4: I'll tell you my bias pick, and then I'll tell 712 00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:37,160 Speaker 4: you the one that is not like I think my 713 00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:38,880 Speaker 4: real pick is Nicks versus Spurs. 714 00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:41,880 Speaker 2: I think that's that's what I have that's what you 715 00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:45,000 Speaker 2: have to Well, that was my preseason. I've I'm wavering 716 00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:46,960 Speaker 2: on the Knicks. I think the Spurs are a lot dude. 717 00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:49,080 Speaker 2: I don't care about this. They haven't won any playoff games. 718 00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:51,040 Speaker 2: They own the thunder. You saw them met to head. 719 00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:54,120 Speaker 2: It's like one and Wenby's not even playing like thirty 720 00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:56,080 Speaker 2: five minutes in those games. He's playing like twenty eight 721 00:31:56,640 --> 00:31:58,600 Speaker 2: thirty and then in the playoffs. 722 00:31:58,160 --> 00:31:58,560 Speaker 3: He's gonna be on. 723 00:31:58,600 --> 00:31:59,320 Speaker 2: Look, you can't take. 724 00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:02,600 Speaker 3: Him off the court for twenty minutes. Yeah, but what 725 00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:03,360 Speaker 3: about the Knicks though? 726 00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:05,080 Speaker 2: Man, I'm starting to get nervous. I'm not worried about 727 00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:07,560 Speaker 2: the Pistons. It's the Celtics to scare me. And then 728 00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:10,240 Speaker 2: for some reason the Knicks. Maybe they're just bored right now. 729 00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:10,719 Speaker 2: I don't know. 730 00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:14,520 Speaker 4: I've been asked myself the same question. I mean. The thing. 731 00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:16,400 Speaker 4: The funny thing is, we played we had a good 732 00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:18,240 Speaker 4: stretch where we played like pretty bad teams and we 733 00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:20,560 Speaker 4: went seven to zero in the last like you know, 734 00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:24,200 Speaker 4: month or whatever, and I felt awful because we were 735 00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:26,080 Speaker 4: the games were way too close. We didn't blow that 736 00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:28,440 Speaker 4: many people out. Sorry, I'm getting a tech. Let me 737 00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:31,000 Speaker 4: turn off my rear here I got, you know, they 738 00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:33,040 Speaker 4: got blown out or we we didn't blow anyone out, 739 00:32:33,080 --> 00:32:39,200 Speaker 4: and it was like, my perspective is, I think, I 740 00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:41,320 Speaker 4: don't know, man. I think I have a lot of 741 00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:44,560 Speaker 4: confidence in this Knicks team as a playoff contender. I 742 00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:46,280 Speaker 4: think they're going to be so upset about what happened 743 00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:49,680 Speaker 4: last last year, to the to the to Indiana. I'm 744 00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:52,560 Speaker 4: my only real concern. I honestly worry about how we 745 00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:54,480 Speaker 4: match up with the Pistons because they play with so 746 00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:56,440 Speaker 4: much intensity and it's hard for us to match it. 747 00:32:57,520 --> 00:32:59,440 Speaker 4: That being said, they're not very experienced in the playoffs 748 00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:00,880 Speaker 4: and now the Knicks into the playoffs and what the 749 00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:03,520 Speaker 4: last four years, this year during this year, so I 750 00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:06,160 Speaker 4: think we have more playoff experience. I think because each 751 00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:08,480 Speaker 4: game is so clutch in the playoffs, Jalen Brunson and 752 00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:10,560 Speaker 4: the Cat combo is going to help us out a lot. 753 00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:14,000 Speaker 4: And I think my real concern is that the Celtics 754 00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:16,880 Speaker 4: are going to want like such revenge for what happened 755 00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:19,160 Speaker 4: last year with Tatum being back and has taken sending 756 00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:21,480 Speaker 4: them home. So that would be my main concern. But 757 00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:23,400 Speaker 4: I think we can get it done. It really depends 758 00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:25,640 Speaker 4: on what that first round matchup is. If we get Toronto, 759 00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:28,680 Speaker 4: that would be awesome because I think we can beat 760 00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:30,920 Speaker 4: them in four or five games. Yeah, and then we'll 761 00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:32,520 Speaker 4: have a lot of you know, time to rest and 762 00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:36,200 Speaker 4: then motivation and then honestly, I could see the Hornets 763 00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:38,560 Speaker 4: beating the upsetting the Pistons if they get the eight seed. 764 00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:41,120 Speaker 3: Wowd We don't know if Kid's gonna even be there 765 00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:41,680 Speaker 3: for game one. 766 00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:43,000 Speaker 4: That's true, that's true. 767 00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:48,360 Speaker 2: Last question, Hudson, Now again, remember he's young, people, What 768 00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:50,880 Speaker 2: is your favorite Knicks player of all time? Who? Who 769 00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:52,240 Speaker 2: is your favorite Knicks player of all time? 770 00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:57,360 Speaker 4: I'm gonna I'm gonna give you two on who I 771 00:33:57,360 --> 00:34:02,240 Speaker 4: grew up watching. Yeah, yeah, he's is he one of them? 772 00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:04,040 Speaker 4: He's my first favorite of all time. 773 00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:06,040 Speaker 2: That's amazing. 774 00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:08,640 Speaker 4: I grew up because he had his year what twenty twelve, 775 00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:10,160 Speaker 4: twenty thirteen was like insanity? 776 00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:13,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you were young though, Oh yeah. 777 00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:15,040 Speaker 4: That's why I was like seven, I think, And that's 778 00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:17,120 Speaker 4: when I first became a Knicks fan. And I remember 779 00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:19,399 Speaker 4: I saw him at the garden once. My friend has 780 00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:22,080 Speaker 4: like a not court side seats, like really nice sweet seats, 781 00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:24,239 Speaker 4: so she brought me one time and I got to 782 00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:27,880 Speaker 4: see Lynn and I was like, dude, this this guy's insane. 783 00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:31,080 Speaker 4: So Jeremy Lynn, I would say, is my top one. 784 00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:33,520 Speaker 4: And then probably Carmelo Anthony just because I love I 785 00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:34,160 Speaker 4: loved him. 786 00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:37,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, and then the rumors are they hated each other. 787 00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:39,279 Speaker 4: I know they did. They did hate each other. 788 00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:42,680 Speaker 2: Mellow, Well, Carmelo was jealous that the fans loved Lynn. 789 00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:45,439 Speaker 4: Correct. Correct, it was a tough. Yeah, it was tough. 790 00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:48,160 Speaker 4: Tough scenario. Definitely hurt us our playoff chances for. 791 00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:49,560 Speaker 2: A few years badly. 792 00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:52,480 Speaker 3: All Right, his name is Hudson Matter, He's big. But 793 00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:53,840 Speaker 3: what's your favorite platform? 794 00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:54,120 Speaker 4: Dude? 795 00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:57,840 Speaker 2: Is it a TikTok YouTube. 796 00:34:56,719 --> 00:34:58,719 Speaker 4: For entertainment or like optimization? 797 00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:00,719 Speaker 3: What do you if you show me your phone and 798 00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:01,600 Speaker 3: where you spend the most time? 799 00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:02,279 Speaker 2: Which one is it? 800 00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:08,640 Speaker 4: Oh? Good question? Probably that's actually tough. It's probably mixed 801 00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:11,680 Speaker 4: between YouTube, TikTok and Twitter? 802 00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:13,040 Speaker 2: Which one make Twitter? 803 00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:14,880 Speaker 3: Wow? Which one makes the most money for you? Twitter 804 00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:15,520 Speaker 3: doesn't make anything? 805 00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:19,759 Speaker 4: Right? No? No, no, definitely YouTube. YouTube monetizes better than anywhere, So. 806 00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:21,719 Speaker 2: That's where people should spend their most time building their 807 00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:23,359 Speaker 2: their their brand brand. 808 00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:26,840 Speaker 4: TikTok doesn't they do better than they used to. But 809 00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:28,600 Speaker 4: anything short for them, it's going to be so limited 810 00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:32,160 Speaker 4: because you can't run ads. What about IG, same thing, 811 00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:33,160 Speaker 4: it's all short form. 812 00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:34,120 Speaker 3: Damn. 813 00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:37,960 Speaker 2: Instagram is the most fun though, right to post on 814 00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:40,919 Speaker 2: you mean yeah, to post on doom scroll. 815 00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:43,440 Speaker 4: I probably post the most. Yeah for fun? Yeah, YouTube, 816 00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:44,959 Speaker 4: you should gram stories whatever? 817 00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:47,239 Speaker 2: All right, h thanks a lot, buddy. We'll see that 818 00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:47,680 Speaker 2: on the come. 819 00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:49,239 Speaker 4: Yes, sir, I'll see you soon.