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Speaker 1: The One Bills Live presented by Kalida Health.

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Speaker 2: All Right, welcome in to a Tuesday edition of One

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Speaker 2: Bills Live. Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you. Glad to

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Speaker 2: have you with us. And we're putting some of the finishing,

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Speaker 2: finishing touches on the draft class and the reviews that

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Speaker 2: are out there league wide as a matter of fact,

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Speaker 2: which we'll get into in just a second. And we

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Speaker 2: also are going to discuss NFL strength of schedule a

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Speaker 2: little bit because we are nearing the time when the

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty four regular season schedule is released. I think

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Speaker 2: we're within about ten days of that happening. There was

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Speaker 2: some talk that it might even happen this week, but

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Speaker 2: I think we would have gotten little bread crumbs right

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Speaker 2: by now. I mean, we haven't even seen the preseason schedule.

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Speaker 3: It's an enormous pump fakey. We all thought it was coming.

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Speaker 3: We all thought it was coming Thursday. It ain't coming Thursday.

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Speaker 2: They mean, we haven't even gotten the bread crumbs of

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Speaker 2: the preseason schedule yet.

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Speaker 3: There's stabbing us in the back.

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Speaker 2: That's a little strong.

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Speaker 3: That may be a little strong, but that's it, man.

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Speaker 2: We you know, well, isn't it funny because you know,

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Speaker 2: we talk about how the league has been masterful in

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Speaker 2: making themselves a year round entity, and they do it

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Speaker 2: by turning everything that they do into the off in

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Speaker 2: the off season into a ten pole event. Like I mean,

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Speaker 2: the schedule used to be really earlier, like even before

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Speaker 2: the draft, and they're like, well, wait a second, we

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Speaker 2: could turn this into another ten pole event after the

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Speaker 2: draft here.

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Speaker 3: So then I got moved to I don't want to

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Speaker 3: I don't want to talk out a turn or anything

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Speaker 3: like that. But one of the things that did that

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Speaker 3: was all the advent of ESPN, Fox Sports, the sports network.

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Speaker 3: They needed program and the NFL sells like nothing else,

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Speaker 3: so they said, well, let's think about it. They they

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Speaker 3: televised the combine.

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Speaker 2: Right, the underwear Olympics, Right.

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Speaker 3: They televised guys getting weight and measured. Come on, I mean,

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Speaker 3: it's a good thing they run the forty. Otherwise there

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Speaker 3: wouldn't be anything to watch the forty. They want to wait, wait,

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Speaker 3: it's one at a time for it's not even like

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Speaker 3: they're not even racing each other.

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Speaker 2: Oh I like that idea, right, Steve, you just stum, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: there's not combine games.

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Speaker 3: They're not even racing each other.

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Speaker 2: That would be awesome. Come on, hey, are you really

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Speaker 2: a competitor, Are you really a competitor? Get on the

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Speaker 2: line and raise that guy?

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Speaker 3: Be better? It'd be better and wants to run by themselves.

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Speaker 2: I think it would. They wouldn't have to run those

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Speaker 3: But you're right, But that's what did it. It's the

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Speaker 3: advent of all the sports on television, and the NFL

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Speaker 3: sales better than anything, and they're and they're the interest

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Speaker 3: is off the charts. So now they're televising the combine.

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Speaker 3: They're there. It's a big deal when free agency starts,

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Speaker 3: even for us next mark my words. They're gonna start

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Speaker 3: well they do. They do a little bit uh training camps,

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Speaker 3: but they're gonna start televising ot as mini camps.

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Speaker 2: Well I think that's gonna get met with some pushback

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Speaker 2: from coaches who don't want their stuff out there.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it's like training camp. They they're installed

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Speaker 3: and stuff and everything. I get it. But the simple

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Speaker 3: fact of the matter is they're televising the combined and

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Speaker 3: now it's a standalone. Oh it's the schedule release mm hm.

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Speaker 3: That is this stuff is and I'll say this too,

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Speaker 3: and it's so self serving because we get a year

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Speaker 3: every month of the year.

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Speaker 2: Right, which definitely helps us. July I'm not going to say.

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Speaker 3: No, except Junior July, we might have much to look

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Speaker 2: But here's the thing about the schedule that I think

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Speaker 2: weren't aware of initially. I would argue that the schedule

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Speaker 2: release is of greater significance to the NFL fan on average,

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Speaker 2: whether it is the most ardent fan in the league,

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Speaker 2: the most diehard fan in the league, or the casual fan. Correct,

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Speaker 2: I would argue schedule release more significant an off season

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Speaker 2: event for the fans than the combine, maybe even the Draft.

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Speaker 2: The schedule release involves everybody's plans for the fall, and

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Speaker 2: that is why I think the league, God, why is

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Speaker 2: the fact said, Holy cow, here's something that influences every

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Speaker 2: fans plans from September to December. Let's make it a

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Speaker 2: big deal because people tune in for that about neighbors

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Speaker 3: Already, that's same with me, what's it come out? I

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Speaker 3: got guys who coming with me. They like, I'm like,

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Speaker 3: like Roger Goodell calls me and says, hey, by the way,

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Speaker 3: you guys, you guys are going to get the right right.

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Speaker 2: I got Tasker on speed dive right.

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Speaker 3: So because that's what they say, they go listen, if

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Speaker 3: you can give me like a day's advance notice when

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Speaker 3: we go to Vegas this year, get before everybody else,

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Speaker 3: because then I can get my flights before everybody fills

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Speaker 3: the YAH or nash whatever the you know the destination

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Speaker 3: at Denver, Nashville.

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Speaker 2: Lay before the airline right, Jack's up the price.

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Speaker 3: And write give me, give me your heads up.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, dude, I got nothing.

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Speaker 3: I got nothing. I got nothing. But that's you're right.

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Speaker 3: The schedule release, because that affects us like I gotta

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Speaker 3: I got Hey, Chris, are we gonna play on Christmas

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Speaker 3: this year? Are we gonna play on Thanksgiving? Again?

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Speaker 2: I'm not lobbying for it.

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Speaker 3: Well no, but that's the question, right because you got

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Speaker 3: to make plans. Yeah, you gotta do it. Are we

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Speaker 3: going to Dallas? Are we going to Detroit? You know

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Speaker 3: what's the deal. So that's yes. The schedule release is

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Speaker 3: has more relevance to everyday fan than the draft, no

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Speaker 3: question about it, because they're people are sitting there on

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Speaker 3: their computer with their airline app open, you know, waiting

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Speaker 3: for the thing to drop.

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Speaker 2: Right, it's it's big. I would argue that.

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Speaker 3: That's exactly right, man, that's yeah, because I remember it

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Speaker 3: was going to be a banner year. The Bills were

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Speaker 3: bills were going to San Francisco, the Bills were going

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Speaker 3: to la and it was twenty twenty.

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Speaker 2: You just you just struck the fear of God in

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Speaker 2: me when you mentioned Detroit, because we do play them

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Speaker 2: away this year. Just market just book it for Thanksgiving.

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Speaker 3: Get a hammer, get a chisel, and market in stone,

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Speaker 3: just hammering.

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Speaker 2: We're going to be there.

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Speaker 3: We're going to be They were just there Thanksgiving two

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Speaker 3: years ago. Thanksgiving. Thanksgiving is going to be Bills Detroit.

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Speaker 3: Get Do we know what Detroit's schedule is? Who else

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Speaker 3: Thanksgiving coming up? Do we have that s well?

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Speaker 2: I mean they'll have Packers, Bears or Viking. It's not

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Speaker 3: Ain't nobody gonna watch Jordan Love when they can watch

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Speaker 3: Josh Allen.

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Speaker 2: Sorry, yeah, did pretty well. Damn well, last year had

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Speaker 2: a super season. I mean they're this far away from

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Speaker 3: Jordan Love is not appointment TV. Josh Allen is he?

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Speaker 2: Josh Allen is more appointment television than Jordan Love. I

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Speaker 2: would agree, but Jordan loves fun to watch him.

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Speaker 3: Last year disparaging Jordan Love. I'm just comparing him with

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Speaker 3: Josh and there ain't none. Pardon my perfect English. Yeah

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Speaker 3: that's what I think. This this this schedule. So they

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Speaker 3: played the rect cause the Bills have got Baltimore. It's

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Speaker 3: Lamar and Josh. The Bills have got Detroit. San Francisco

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Speaker 3: is a huge one. La again Yeah, well, of course

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Speaker 3: the Chief the Chief, the Bills in chiefs. Let me

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Speaker 3: just say this, The Bills in Chiefs are gonna play

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Speaker 3: seven pm on Christmas night.

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Speaker 2: Oh don't do that. So now we're doing Thanksgiving and Christmas,

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Speaker 2: we're doing both.

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Speaker 3: How many times did we play on primetime last year? Right?

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Speaker 2: Right? But let's let's not forget the roster has turned

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Speaker 2: over precipitously. I wouldn't be surprised. I know how you feel, Steve,

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Speaker 2: but I would not be surprised if nationally and the

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Speaker 2: networks say, okay, yes, Josh Allen is employment viewing, but

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Speaker 2: there's no digs, he doesn't have his running he doesn't

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Speaker 2: like that. You worked for a network for twenty years.

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Speaker 3: Throw the schedule up on the on there again. Let

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Speaker 3: me just shoot, here's a go. So you're going down

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Speaker 3: there and you're the you're an NFL television executive, and

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Speaker 3: you're looking down there and you say, you got Josh Allen.

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Speaker 3: I know that guy's gonna produce on He's gonna give

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Speaker 3: us something. That team hasn't been beaten by more than

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Speaker 3: a possession in three years. Okay, we're gonna do We're

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Speaker 3: take a flyer on Anthony Richardson in Indianapolis and put

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Speaker 3: them on primetime. No, dude, it's a star driven league.

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Speaker 3: It's Pat Mahomes, it's Lamar Jackson, it's Josh Allen, and

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Speaker 3: and then it's guys now cowboys, Jets, okay, you know

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Speaker 2: I think one of the Jets games is a primetime game,

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Speaker 2: the Texans. Those are all primetime slash Holiday.

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Speaker 3: So that's but you're just named off six, right, So

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Speaker 2: But you're assuming the networks still feel the same about

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Speaker 3: Well, here's the thing. You know the guy, yes, and

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Speaker 3: it's he's no different than Aaron Rodgers in his heyday

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Speaker 3: when they were going to the playoffs every year. You

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Speaker 3: and you got to make a call, you're gonna call Mahomes, Jackson, Allen,

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Speaker 3: you go. I mean that's that's what those are, the mixtures,

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Speaker 3: the star power, television, television market and the dependability of

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Speaker 3: getting a game with some buddy.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Now if they can mix those all together, like c J.

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Speaker 3: Stroud and Josh Allen, yeah, that's a Monday night game.

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Speaker 3: Now the Lions Sunday night games.

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Speaker 2: Getting back to the original research, the Lions are playing

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Speaker 2: the same divisions that the Bills are. They're playing the

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Speaker 2: NFC West as an intra conference conference division. The Bills

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Speaker 2: they have a lot of the same opponents. So the

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Speaker 2: Lions could play San Francisco in an NFC title rematch

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Speaker 2: on Thanksgiving. I think that would be more appealing to

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Speaker 2: a network than Bills Lions.

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Speaker 3: Then yeah, but by Thanksgiving, it's all water and it's

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Speaker 3: Yeah, this conversation, I'm thinking back because you know, I

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Speaker 2: You know, you get calloused up for the playoffs.

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Speaker 3: Yes, you get like, let's go kind of You get

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Speaker 2: It defies logic a little bit for me, though, that

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Speaker 2: But it just it doesn't line up with normal logic,

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Speaker 3: Plus they're playing the same divisions.

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Speaker 3: And here's the thing. You play all you play the

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Speaker 2: So they're playing the AFC North fourth place finisher and

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Speaker 2: I think I do Minnesota because they finished last in

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Speaker 3: That is I just don't Minas No, Chicago, Chicago, Chicago did. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Gotcha, Okay, So I mean it defies just the normal.

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Speaker 2: Bill's tied for sixth for toughest strength of schedule. ESPN's

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Speaker 2: Jeremy Fowler put together his post draft nuggets after the

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Speaker 2: So here's what he had on the Bills draft, and

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Speaker 2: Buffalo had one of the league's more balanced drafts, addressing

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Speaker 2: Keep in mind with the Bills rushing attack under Joe Brady,

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Speaker 2: We mentioned it on the show last week, Steve. After

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Speaker 3: I'll say this though I know that you hear the guys,

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Speaker 3: There's no question about it. The Bills are. Even if

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Speaker 3: They've got to keep scoring points. It's a scoring league.

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Speaker 3: Throw you throw to score, and you got to score.

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Speaker 3: That's why those things go hand in hand. I don't

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Speaker 3: I'm fine with that. But there are a lot of downs,

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Speaker 3: and we've talked about this in the last couple of days,

435
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Speaker 3: a lot where it's neutral, where you could run it

436
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Speaker 3: and you might throw it. That's when the Bills have

437
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Speaker 3: really upped their game. Like on first and ten, like

438
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Speaker 3: you said, they're gonna pound it at you, let's see

439
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Speaker 3: what you got. And I'll say this too, you can

440
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Speaker 3: do that when you got this offensive line and this

441
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Speaker 3: depth of the offensive line and this quarterback because he

442
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Speaker 3: can run it too. And I'm not saying they're gonna

443
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Speaker 3: do that, you know, first and ten. Here we go

444
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Speaker 3: with Josh around the end. But yeah, the defense has

445
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Speaker 3: to think that, so I'm not really I get that

446
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Speaker 3: these projections, like Jeremy Faller Fowl Mike clay On later

447
00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:03,480
Speaker 3: in the show, it's about projections and what it's going

448
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Speaker 3: to look like. There's just and it's it's ultra simple.

449
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Speaker 3: As long as they're scoring. Yeah, go, I don't care

450
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Speaker 3: what it looks like Joe Brady, just do it. Move

451
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Speaker 3: the ball, move the move the chains, get down there,

452
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Speaker 3: close and punch it in or throw it in. I

453
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Speaker 3: don't care. Just get it down there and score touchdowns

454
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Speaker 3: on a ton of your possessions.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but it really is, you know, probably one of

456
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Speaker 2: the biggest unknowns about this team. How much is the

457
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Speaker 2: offense going to be tweaked? Was last year just an

458
00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:39,600
Speaker 2: exercise in offensive triage? Right, because of everything that had

459
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Speaker 2: been wrong with the offense. Let's just fix it in

460
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Speaker 2: a way that is not an overhaul, but enough to

461
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Speaker 2: make us more effective, and when we get to the offseason,

462
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Speaker 2: we'll figure out a better plan going forward. How much

463
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Speaker 2: different is that better plan than what they did down

464
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Speaker 2: the stretch that, let's not forget help them win five

465
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Speaker 2: straight when they absolutely had to win five games in

466
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Speaker 2: a row, didn't win by a lot, but they want

467
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Speaker 2: all of them.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, that is the big sixty four million dollar

470
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Speaker 2: question here going into training camp, preseason, regular season. So yeah,

471
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Speaker 2: it's it's gonna be some watching.

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Speaker 3: And that's that's right. And I think there's a ton

473
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Speaker 3: of question mark, not just from us. I mean, we

474
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Speaker 3: don't we're not there but they don't know who they got.

475
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Speaker 3: They call that they got Shakir, they got Kincaid, and

476
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Speaker 3: they got this guy Coleman, who we've never seen take

477
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Speaker 3: a snap. So they got to cook. And okay, let's

478
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Speaker 3: we have no Davis, no Digs. That's kind of big.

479
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Speaker 3: And our defense is gonna look different. Are we gonna

480
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Speaker 3: have a different guy might be calling it, that's right.

481
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Speaker 3: Are we going to play offense to help our defense?

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Speaker 3: Are we just gonna let our defense catch up with

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Speaker 3: us or you know, try and keep up. What's this

484
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Speaker 3: gonna look like? Now? The offense whole for the most part,

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Speaker 3: And I'll say this, for the most part, it's gonna

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Speaker 3: look at exactly the same. And I and people are

487
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Speaker 3: what are you talking about? No Digs, no Davis. You're right,

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Speaker 3: no Digs or Davis. Davis's production you could get from

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Speaker 3: the guys that were on the You could get his

490
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Speaker 3: receiving production from anybody. I mean, the guy didn't produce

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Speaker 3: a lot as a number two receiver. He just didn't.

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Speaker 2: He didn't produce like a number two receive.

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Speaker 3: No, that's right. There were too many games with zero

494
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Speaker 3: for zero on his on his targets, right, So that

495
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Speaker 3: is not a big deal to me. Diggs is a

496
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Speaker 3: big deal, But I think there's two guys that were

497
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Speaker 3: already there that would love the opportunity to get twelve

498
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Speaker 3: targets a game. And you're gonna have a number one

499
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Speaker 3: draft pick who's gonna demand theoretically what seven to ten

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Speaker 3: targets a game. I don't think that's gonna be an

501
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Speaker 3: issue they're gonna have. They're gonna be able to spread

502
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Speaker 3: the football around, but we don't know what's what they're

503
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Speaker 3: gonna be good at as a group. So I don't

504
00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:02,760
Speaker 3: think we know what Joe Brady's gonna think about this

505
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Speaker 3: offense and what he's gonna call. A lot of times,

506
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Speaker 3: and maybe this is a Gabe Davis effect. A lot

507
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Speaker 3: of times he's he making play calls based on what

508
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Speaker 3: he thinks his guys can do. Yeah, Gabe Davis pretty

509
00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:17,320
Speaker 3: good run blocker. Let's run it.

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Speaker 2: Speaking of receivers and of Jeremy Fowler, he is reporting

511
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Speaker 2: that Tyler Boyd, free agent slot receiver from the Bengals,

512
00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:29,920
Speaker 2: is signing with the Tennessee Titans one year deal and

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Speaker 2: back with his former offensive assistant, who I believe at

514
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Speaker 2: last check was quarterbacks coach slash offensive passing game coordinator

515
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Speaker 2: or whatever they're head coach in Cincinnati called the plays.

516
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Speaker 3: We know that.

517
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Speaker 2: But Brian Callahan, now the head coach in Tennessee, reunited

518
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Speaker 2: with Tyler Boyd, and that receiving corps suddenly looks pretty

519
00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:56,960
Speaker 2: dang good. Calvin Ridley, DeAndre Hopkins, Tyler Boyd as your

520
00:28:57,000 --> 00:28:59,200
Speaker 2: top three veteran group.

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Speaker 3: There's some guy with some chops in that group.

522
00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:03,960
Speaker 2: Yet that helps a young quarterback like you know, Will

523
00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:08,320
Speaker 2: Levis so love it. That'll be interesting topic of conversation

524
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Speaker 2: for you.

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Speaker 4: Though.

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Speaker 2: At ATO three oh five point fifty concerns Buffalo's receiving

527
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Speaker 2: corps and specifically their top draft choice, Keon Coleman. What

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Speaker 2: kind of rookie season do you need from wide receiver

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Speaker 2: Keon Coleman. Everybody has their expectations. Some people were over

530
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Speaker 2: the moon about the pick, some lukewarm. But what kind

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Speaker 2: of rookie season from Keon Coleman is going to make

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Speaker 2: you happy? You let us know at AIGHTO three oh

533
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Speaker 2: five point fifty one eighty eight five fifty two five

534
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Speaker 2: fifty the number to get on board that could be.

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Speaker 2: You can give us a stat line you could give

536
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Speaker 2: us a role in the offense. Whatever it is that

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Speaker 2: you think you need to see from Keon Coleman to

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Speaker 2: represent a successful rookie season and integration into this passing game.

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Speaker 2: You tell us on the phone lines at ato three

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Speaker 2: oh five fifty one eighty eight five fifty. That's the

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Speaker 2: number to get on board. Open lines for you there,

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Speaker 2: if you can call, you can hit us up on

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Speaker 2: the tweets sheet. At one Bill's Live, Steve and I

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Speaker 2: take a break, but your phone calls coming up next

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Speaker 2: here on One Bill's Live, presented by Coil out of Health.

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Speaker 6: It's Buffalo Bill's Radio.

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Speaker 2: All right back here on One Bill's Live on a Tuesday,

548
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Speaker 2: Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you and topic of discussion today,

549
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Speaker 2: kind of rookie season do you need to see from

550
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Speaker 2: wide receiver Keon Coleman to be a happy camper about

551
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Speaker 2: him being the newest edition to Buffalo's passing game. Eight

552
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Speaker 2: oh three five point fifty one eight eight eight five

553
00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:48,520
Speaker 2: fifty two five fifty the number to get on board.

554
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Speaker 2: Got some open lines for you. But we are going

555
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Speaker 2: to go to the phones and leading us off today

556
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Speaker 2: is Dave in Buffalo. What do you got for his

557
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Speaker 2: Dave here on One Bill's Live.

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Speaker 4: Thanks for taking my call. I'm with Tesco on this one.

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Speaker 4: I think that there are plenty of plays to go

560
00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:07,080
Speaker 4: with this team in terms of other players want to

561
00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:09,880
Speaker 4: catch the ball. I think we're going to run more

562
00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:14,920
Speaker 4: this year too. And if Coleman takes the Eric Molds route,

563
00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:16,840
Speaker 4: where I don't think we got anything from him in

564
00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:19,000
Speaker 4: his first year because it just took a while to

565
00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:21,920
Speaker 4: develop as a pro and then you know, we had

566
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Speaker 4: a great career that I'd be ecstatic with that. I

567
00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:28,000
Speaker 4: think when you look at this team last year and

568
00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:31,000
Speaker 4: they went five to zero in the last games, where

569
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Speaker 4: getting little production at all out of gave Davis and

570
00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:38,000
Speaker 4: Wulves just hit the wall in his season. So they've

571
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Speaker 4: had great production at first half of the season and

572
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Speaker 4: didn't give us much at all in the second half

573
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Speaker 4: of the season when we were actually made our big

574
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Speaker 4: run for the playoffs. It's fine. So I don't have

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Speaker 4: any demands at all from Coleman except to become a

576
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Speaker 4: great poem and give us a great career and give

577
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Speaker 4: it be a great.

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Speaker 3: Bill David point.

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Speaker 2: I'm going to give him credit. He's more patient than

580
00:31:58,080 --> 00:32:02,560
Speaker 2: most right, but I would eventually, guess the majority of

581
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Speaker 2: Bills fans are not going to have that end.

582
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Speaker 3: Even if Keon hits a home run in his first year,

583
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Speaker 3: comes out has like this like this justin Jefferson type year,

584
00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:14,280
Speaker 3: you know, eleven or twelve hundred yards, twelve touchdowns, blah

585
00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:16,719
Speaker 3: blah blah, the whole thing. Even if all that happens,

586
00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:18,480
Speaker 3: that's not going to define him for career. You got

587
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Speaker 3: to keep doing it. And just like if he comes

588
00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:23,640
Speaker 3: out and is not as effective as we want him

589
00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:26,000
Speaker 3: to be, or it hasn't Eric Molds type of season

590
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Speaker 3: he did. Molds didn't get on the field, right, it

591
00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:31,440
Speaker 3: was a returner, Yeah, to start his career. That's not

592
00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:37,120
Speaker 3: going to define him either. So you're right, I think

593
00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:41,000
Speaker 3: at the very least, though, you have to ask yourself

594
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Speaker 3: for say, whatever happens to Keon this season as a Bill,

595
00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:48,400
Speaker 3: you want there to be you want there to be

596
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Speaker 3: a sense that he's going to get better and that

597
00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:56,800
Speaker 3: the top end is still there and he's he's you know, uh,

598
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Speaker 3: and that you're still glad he's on the team, Like Okay,

599
00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:02,280
Speaker 3: you're excited about his that's I think that's where Dave is.

600
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Speaker 3: You got you want to feel about his career like

601
00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:07,160
Speaker 3: you do today, Like, all right, let's let's see it,

602
00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:11,640
Speaker 3: you know, and he give you enough that keeps you

603
00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:14,400
Speaker 3: believing that it's going to that is there and you're

604
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Speaker 3: going to see it.

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Speaker 2: There is something to the fact. And we touched on

606
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Speaker 2: this with Brandon Bean when you had him in studio

607
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Speaker 2: last week. I don't think it can be ignored that.

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Speaker 2: Number one, he's twenty. Number two, he split his time

609
00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:36,320
Speaker 2: between football and basketball until he was a college junior, right, Like,

610
00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:40,760
Speaker 2: from the time he was five, split his time, and

611
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Speaker 2: a lot of guys at this level did not do that.

612
00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:46,640
Speaker 2: It became football only at the very latest by the

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Speaker 2: time they got to high school. This guy was still

614
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Speaker 2: split in his time between the two sports halfway through

615
00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:55,400
Speaker 2: his college career, right So I think I think that

616
00:33:55,520 --> 00:33:57,920
Speaker 2: needs to be understood as well. So you can make

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Speaker 2: the argument that his game is not as refined maybe

618
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Speaker 2: as somebody who has twelve hundred more snaps than him,

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Speaker 2: because he's only played football and didn't play basketball.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yes, do you think it's a factor. I don't know. People,

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Speaker 3: And here's the thing too, the way we forwarded the question,

622
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Speaker 3: we're all saying what the minimum is you know. I mean,

623
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Speaker 3: this is what we least we want to see it.

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Speaker 3: But there's always a chance, you know.

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Speaker 2: I mean, Antonio Gates didn't play any football right and

626
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Speaker 2: came into the league. Now, granted he's playing with Philip Rivers,

627
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Speaker 2: you know, but Kean's playing with prety dang good quarterback here.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think you know, there's always a chance too

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Speaker 3: the guy comes in and kills it. Yeah, you know,

630
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Speaker 3: I mean he becomes the number one guy. Presto changjoh,

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Speaker 3: that's it. Well, there ain't no question. By week four,

632
00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:51,440
Speaker 3: everybody's looking for him to get you know, twelve fifteen

633
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Speaker 3: targets and catch ten to thirteen of them. I mean,

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Speaker 3: that's there's always that possibility. I don't Somewhere in between

635
00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:04,080
Speaker 3: all of this is where he's gonna fall. And I

636
00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:06,200
Speaker 3: think a lot of it has to do with there's

637
00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:09,080
Speaker 3: a couple of things going for Keon, all his all

638
00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:12,320
Speaker 3: the stuff he brings. Yes, he's the one that earned

639
00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:15,760
Speaker 3: somebody picking him in the first round of the NFL Draft,

640
00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:19,560
Speaker 3: but there's a lot more on his side than other

641
00:35:19,600 --> 00:35:24,360
Speaker 3: guys have. Some guys have this, but others don't. Keon's

642
00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:29,840
Speaker 3: got this culture in this building, this quarterback, this offense,

643
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Speaker 3: and this team's ability not to need him to be

644
00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:38,080
Speaker 3: you know, Julio Jones, He's.

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Speaker 2: Not the only playmaker on the offense. That's that's well understood.

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Speaker 3: He's got less pressure, kid and Samuel, Yes, he's gonna

647
00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:49,440
Speaker 3: have less responsibility to carry this offense than most guys

648
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Speaker 3: will at other places. He's got more support here and

649
00:35:55,960 --> 00:36:00,000
Speaker 3: he's got as much athleticism as anybody in the draft.

650
00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:04,360
Speaker 3: So it's he's got a lot of things going for him.

651
00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:08,600
Speaker 3: We'll see if it comes through. I think your hopes

652
00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:11,320
Speaker 3: have to your hopes have to be high for him.

653
00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:13,160
Speaker 3: Your floor can be whatever you want it to be.

654
00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:15,520
Speaker 3: And that's why we asked the question, and what at

655
00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:17,920
Speaker 3: least do you want to see? And I think when

656
00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:21,080
Speaker 3: you're talking with fans and we're doing it, you want

657
00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:22,880
Speaker 3: to feel something for the game. You want to you

658
00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:24,440
Speaker 3: want to feel like, yeah, that's my guy.

659
00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:26,640
Speaker 2: I want to very least that he's on the right track.

660
00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:28,200
Speaker 3: I don't care if I don't care if he's you

661
00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:30,160
Speaker 3: know what his numbers say. I want to know what

662
00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:34,640
Speaker 3: I think about the guy totally. And you know some

663
00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:37,080
Speaker 3: people are coming back with you know, like you know

664
00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:39,600
Speaker 3: this guy, you know, six to eight hundred yards five

665
00:36:39,640 --> 00:36:42,760
Speaker 3: to seven t ds. You know, let's just see. Okay,

666
00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:45,840
Speaker 3: that's fine, that's gave Davis season.

667
00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:50,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's go to David in Niagara Falls. What's up, David,

668
00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:53,359
Speaker 2: he's thanks for taking my call.

669
00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:56,600
Speaker 5: I want to just focus on what I think they

670
00:36:56,600 --> 00:36:59,359
Speaker 5: think they should do, how they should use him, and

671
00:36:59,560 --> 00:37:02,680
Speaker 5: let the statistics follow the follow how they use him.

672
00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:05,120
Speaker 5: And I just remember Kansas City and what they were

673
00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:07,160
Speaker 5: doing against the Bills and the playoffs. They had their

674
00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:09,520
Speaker 5: linemen with their hands in the air and making sure

675
00:37:09,560 --> 00:37:12,160
Speaker 5: they weren't rushing Josh so he couldn't run. And with

676
00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:15,399
Speaker 5: his low lining bullet, I think, you know you bring

677
00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:18,120
Speaker 5: you bring Coleman over the middle, or just turn and

678
00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:20,880
Speaker 5: at the at the first down marker jump in the air.

679
00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:23,040
Speaker 5: As soon as the ball is thrown. He's catching it

680
00:37:23,080 --> 00:37:24,320
Speaker 5: at ten feet high.

681
00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:26,120
Speaker 7: And no one's going to stop that from getting the

682
00:37:26,120 --> 00:37:28,360
Speaker 7: first from from us getting the first down unless some

683
00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:30,400
Speaker 7: guy can jump as high as his key on to

684
00:37:30,719 --> 00:37:32,560
Speaker 7: knock it out of his hands. And then of course

685
00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:34,319
Speaker 7: now and then you know, when people just trying to

686
00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:36,640
Speaker 7: bite on that move, he'll go deep. And then of

687
00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:40,600
Speaker 7: course a red zone, you know, uh jump balls and

688
00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:42,320
Speaker 7: if he can, if he can do that for us,

689
00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:45,239
Speaker 7: that's going to be incredibly heal helpful and keeping the

690
00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:47,600
Speaker 7: ball moving and uh, he's gonna he's gonna get his

691
00:37:47,640 --> 00:37:50,400
Speaker 7: touchdowns for sure, and you know, work on work on

692
00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:53,719
Speaker 7: the deeper roots once he really uh you know, develops

693
00:37:53,719 --> 00:37:56,480
Speaker 7: his uh his root tree, uh, you know, and and

694
00:37:56,719 --> 00:37:59,560
Speaker 7: refines that, which I know is is one issue. So

695
00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:02,319
Speaker 7: but that's that's my hope is that is that uh,

696
00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:05,120
Speaker 7: you know, he's gonna be the guy that's gonna, you know,

697
00:38:05,120 --> 00:38:07,279
Speaker 7: get get those first downs over the middle that that

698
00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:09,560
Speaker 7: are gonna be tougher to get. Now, if if people

699
00:38:09,600 --> 00:38:12,440
Speaker 7: start patterning their defense after what Casey was doing to

700
00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:13,400
Speaker 7: us in the playoffs.

701
00:38:13,560 --> 00:38:16,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll say this though, David, I don't think your

702
00:38:16,239 --> 00:38:18,560
Speaker 3: your bar is high enough. You're gonna have to act

703
00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:20,720
Speaker 3: Keon Coleman's gonna have to do more than run hitches

704
00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:22,800
Speaker 3: at the sticks and go over the top on a

705
00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:25,879
Speaker 3: pump fake. He's gonna have to catch the ball over

706
00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:27,920
Speaker 3: the middle. He's gonna have to block in the run game.

707
00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:29,920
Speaker 3: He's gonna have to run a route tree that is

708
00:38:30,160 --> 00:38:34,080
Speaker 3: that is full, uh, a fully developed route tree, and

709
00:38:34,160 --> 00:38:36,920
Speaker 3: you have every reason to respect to expect that he

710
00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:40,920
Speaker 3: can do that with his skill set, uh and his experience.

711
00:38:41,719 --> 00:38:41,919
Speaker 4: UH.

712
00:38:42,040 --> 00:38:43,920
Speaker 3: Just having him out there just to make first downs,

713
00:38:44,560 --> 00:38:47,839
Speaker 3: that's not a high enough bar for me. I need

714
00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:50,960
Speaker 3: him to be a full fledged number at least number

715
00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:53,839
Speaker 3: two receiver in this offense. And he's gotta he's gotta run,

716
00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:55,840
Speaker 3: he's gotta you, he's got to catch it when his

717
00:38:56,040 --> 00:38:58,880
Speaker 3: numbers called. He's got to be on the field a

718
00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:02,120
Speaker 3: lot when he because not just because you want him

719
00:39:02,120 --> 00:39:03,239
Speaker 3: on the field to see what he can do, but

720
00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:06,080
Speaker 3: he's on the field because he has earned to be

721
00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:08,400
Speaker 3: earned a right to be on the field. The coaching

722
00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:10,680
Speaker 3: staff has faith of him. They see things in practice

723
00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:13,480
Speaker 3: that we don't know about. They trust him, and he's

724
00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:17,239
Speaker 3: a young kid to earn trust. So I think I

725
00:39:17,239 --> 00:39:19,080
Speaker 3: don't think the bar is high. Don't just think he's

726
00:39:19,120 --> 00:39:20,719
Speaker 3: gonna be a guy that's gonna come back. He may

727
00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:23,760
Speaker 3: do all of the things you said David from Niagara Falls.

728
00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:26,360
Speaker 3: He may do all those things you said in one series,

729
00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:30,320
Speaker 3: take a seat, catch a first down at the sticks,

730
00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:32,160
Speaker 3: and then do a pump fake and go along. He

731
00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:33,920
Speaker 3: may do all that, but that's gonna be a one series.

732
00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:37,080
Speaker 3: You got another fifty five sixty plays in a game

733
00:39:37,080 --> 00:39:38,560
Speaker 3: that you got to play, and he's got to do

734
00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:40,600
Speaker 3: a lot of stuff in those So you've got to

735
00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:43,520
Speaker 3: keep the bar high because that's what it takes to win.

736
00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:47,600
Speaker 3: And he's got to be ready to accept that mantle

737
00:39:47,640 --> 00:39:50,360
Speaker 3: of responsibility to be a fully fledged member of the

738
00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:53,560
Speaker 3: offense line up anywhere they want him to line up

739
00:39:54,080 --> 00:39:56,840
Speaker 3: and run whatever route they can and adjust on the

740
00:39:56,880 --> 00:39:58,680
Speaker 3: fly if he needs to. He's got to do all

741
00:39:58,760 --> 00:40:03,200
Speaker 3: of that. Those are that's wide receiver one oh one

742
00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:07,080
Speaker 3: in the NFL, and that's that's where he's got to

743
00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:10,319
Speaker 3: He's got to be that. He's got to be that.

744
00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:13,640
Speaker 3: All this other stuff we're talking is once he does it,

745
00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:16,080
Speaker 3: can he catch it? Is he going to get the opportunity,

746
00:40:16,080 --> 00:40:17,920
Speaker 3: He's going to stay healthy? Is he going to learn

747
00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:20,480
Speaker 3: it enough to be on the field and be trusted

748
00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:25,320
Speaker 3: in all of those situations. That's the That's that's the

749
00:40:25,560 --> 00:40:27,680
Speaker 3: bare minimum, and that's a lot.

750
00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:31,040
Speaker 2: Let's go to Mark in Jersey City next. What's up Mark?

751
00:40:32,160 --> 00:40:34,239
Speaker 8: A good afternoon, gentlemen, Thanks for taking my call out

752
00:40:34,280 --> 00:40:37,440
Speaker 8: before to the point I think Bill Smans are estimating

753
00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:40,840
Speaker 8: what we have at House and the Dawson Knox is

754
00:40:40,840 --> 00:40:43,160
Speaker 8: that he has the most type of touchdowns for a

755
00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:46,360
Speaker 8: tight end in Bill's history. Believe it or not. He

756
00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:50,080
Speaker 8: beat ntslers last year with the one in Pittsburgh for

757
00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:55,759
Speaker 8: combined regular season and a postseason. And shak here to

758
00:40:55,800 --> 00:41:00,319
Speaker 8: the point where Sneet starts out the game on Onigs

759
00:41:00,520 --> 00:41:03,279
Speaker 8: finishes the game on Hi. I always look at what

760
00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:07,520
Speaker 8: the opponent thinks of the team, and they put their

761
00:41:07,600 --> 00:41:15,200
Speaker 8: number one highly rated corner on Shakir Davis's production. Everybody

762
00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:17,240
Speaker 8: talks about Diggs's drop off. Do you how many catches

763
00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:19,560
Speaker 8: Gabe Davis had in the last nine games of the season,

764
00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:29,440
Speaker 8: Go ahead, fourteen, Yeah, yep, forten whatever Gabe's best numbers

765
00:41:29,480 --> 00:41:34,400
Speaker 8: are combined them catches, yards, tds, Coleman, beat it, beat it,

766
00:41:34,520 --> 00:41:36,719
Speaker 8: that's it. Just beat them. And I feel like we

767
00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:38,440
Speaker 8: have no idea what Samuel is going to be in

768
00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:40,360
Speaker 8: this offense. We all we know is he had his

769
00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:44,080
Speaker 8: best production under Joe Brady as a rusher and receiver.

770
00:41:44,200 --> 00:41:47,839
Speaker 8: Shakir's trajectory upward, isn't we have to feel like there's

771
00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:51,279
Speaker 8: more meat on the bone for Kincaid. I think there's

772
00:41:51,360 --> 00:41:54,160
Speaker 8: more room for Cook to improve as a pass catcher.

773
00:41:55,080 --> 00:41:56,919
Speaker 8: How many touchdowns did he drop last year?

774
00:41:57,040 --> 00:41:57,239
Speaker 9: Two?

775
00:41:57,600 --> 00:41:58,040
Speaker 7: Three?

776
00:41:58,200 --> 00:42:02,080
Speaker 8: Yeah, agreed, dropped the easy ones and caught the different

777
00:42:02,160 --> 00:42:04,960
Speaker 8: That one he caught against Dallas was a hard catch,

778
00:42:05,239 --> 00:42:09,160
Speaker 8: and then he drops the too easy ones. I think

779
00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:11,520
Speaker 8: later in the game against Dallas he dropped a swing

780
00:42:11,640 --> 00:42:12,040
Speaker 8: er oute that.

781
00:42:12,280 --> 00:42:14,640
Speaker 2: Was and then dropped one against Miami and dropped one

782
00:42:14,640 --> 00:42:19,160
Speaker 2: against Kansas City. I think the Eagles or the Eagles game.

783
00:42:19,160 --> 00:42:20,319
Speaker 3: That's the Eagles, Yeah, going in.

784
00:42:20,440 --> 00:42:23,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm thinking of the Eagles. The wheel route, right.

785
00:42:23,719 --> 00:42:26,879
Speaker 8: There was a wheel route, but yeah, he I think

786
00:42:26,920 --> 00:42:28,880
Speaker 8: there's a lot in house. Bills fans are just kind

787
00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:31,480
Speaker 8: of glossing over because we just kind of waxed poetic

788
00:42:31,480 --> 00:42:35,440
Speaker 8: about this, you know, prototype X receiver. Well, he's potentially

789
00:42:35,480 --> 00:42:37,960
Speaker 8: in the building now just let all we all know.

790
00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:40,480
Speaker 8: They like the slow cooker approach to rookies. They like

791
00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:43,600
Speaker 8: to crescendo them. They kind of give them what they

792
00:42:43,640 --> 00:42:45,960
Speaker 8: can handle. And I feel like he's just going to

793
00:42:46,040 --> 00:42:48,000
Speaker 8: be just fine in the end, So I'm not too

794
00:42:48,040 --> 00:42:49,640
Speaker 8: worried about it. Guys, Thanks for taking my call.

795
00:42:49,719 --> 00:42:51,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, she was taking Mark, I mean gave Davis his

796
00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:57,840
Speaker 2: best season twenty twenty two, ninety three targets, forty eight catches,

797
00:42:58,480 --> 00:43:03,640
Speaker 2: which is about a fifty one percent catch rate, eight

798
00:43:03,760 --> 00:43:08,279
Speaker 2: hundred and thirty six yards, seven touchdowns. I don't think

799
00:43:08,320 --> 00:43:11,960
Speaker 2: that's impossible. Forty eight catches, eight thirty six, seven touchdowns.

800
00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:14,719
Speaker 2: I don't think that's out of the robis being realistic

801
00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:15,680
Speaker 2: for Coleman.

802
00:43:16,480 --> 00:43:21,320
Speaker 3: No, what I'm looking at is Davis had forty five catches.

803
00:43:21,960 --> 00:43:23,719
Speaker 2: That's last year. Twenty twenty two is.

804
00:43:23,719 --> 00:43:26,680
Speaker 3: His best season, it's his best season. Okay, Well, he

805
00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:27,320
Speaker 3: was steady.

806
00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:30,400
Speaker 2: I mean forty eight eight thirty six seven touchdowns.

807
00:43:30,440 --> 00:43:32,760
Speaker 3: Right, last year he had forty five for seven forty

808
00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:33,880
Speaker 3: six and seven touchdowns.

809
00:43:33,880 --> 00:43:36,600
Speaker 2: I think that's reaching. That's realistic for Coleman. I think

810
00:43:37,719 --> 00:43:41,360
Speaker 2: as long as he is quick on the uptake with

811
00:43:41,480 --> 00:43:44,879
Speaker 2: the offensive scheme, and Joe Brady feels like he can

812
00:43:44,880 --> 00:43:46,840
Speaker 2: trust him, maybe not in every role, but in a

813
00:43:46,880 --> 00:43:51,839
Speaker 2: couple you know, X and Z, maybe I think that's

814
00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:55,000
Speaker 2: I think he's getting snaps say this, and stays healthy.

815
00:43:55,040 --> 00:43:55,960
Speaker 2: I think that's realistic.

816
00:43:56,080 --> 00:44:00,040
Speaker 3: Keon Coleman does that in twelve to fourteen games.

817
00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:03,239
Speaker 2: Well, he practically did that in college last year. Yes,

818
00:44:03,280 --> 00:44:05,760
Speaker 2: he had nine hundred yards and I think ten touchdown.

819
00:44:05,760 --> 00:44:08,959
Speaker 3: He'll do that in twelve to fourteen games. So even

820
00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:10,759
Speaker 3: if he even if he gets the same number of

821
00:44:10,800 --> 00:44:16,319
Speaker 3: targets he catches, he just catches the ball better. And

822
00:44:16,640 --> 00:44:18,880
Speaker 3: once you start doing that, we've also we've seen it

823
00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:22,600
Speaker 3: and talked about it a gazillion times. It's it's sound

824
00:44:22,680 --> 00:44:26,719
Speaker 3: like a broken record. The better you play, the better

825
00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:30,799
Speaker 3: your quarterback likes you take it from take it from me,

826
00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:35,040
Speaker 3: The better you catch it, and the better you do

827
00:44:35,120 --> 00:44:37,279
Speaker 3: with it after you catch it, the more passes that

828
00:44:37,320 --> 00:44:40,440
Speaker 3: guy's gonna throw you. I've heard conversation, not just from

829
00:44:40,480 --> 00:44:43,040
Speaker 3: me and my experience. I've sat around played golf with

830
00:44:43,080 --> 00:44:45,480
Speaker 3: a bunch of quarterbacks. All they talk about is the

831
00:44:45,520 --> 00:44:47,520
Speaker 3: guy we don't know that they loved because they knew

832
00:44:47,520 --> 00:44:51,280
Speaker 3: exact he catch it. I'm throwing that guy who's that.

833
00:44:51,280 --> 00:44:53,080
Speaker 3: That's a guy we had in practice on the practice squad.

834
00:44:53,080 --> 00:44:54,319
Speaker 3: I didn't care if he was on the field. I

835
00:44:54,360 --> 00:44:56,279
Speaker 3: was like, dude, he didn't even play. Yeah, I threw

836
00:44:56,280 --> 00:44:58,839
Speaker 3: it to him all the time. That's all they talk

837
00:44:58,880 --> 00:45:02,440
Speaker 3: about is the guy that they trust. That's why I

838
00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:04,680
Speaker 3: when I got on That's why I caught ball the guy,

839
00:45:04,760 --> 00:45:07,080
Speaker 3: the guy who's throwing and loved me because he's like, yeah,

840
00:45:07,080 --> 00:45:10,600
Speaker 3: I like that, he's gonna catch it. That's all they do, man,

841
00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:13,279
Speaker 3: all this. Yeah, he really saw the field and he

842
00:45:13,360 --> 00:45:15,560
Speaker 3: read the defense. He threw it to his favorite guy.

843
00:45:16,960 --> 00:45:19,120
Speaker 3: It ain't no more complicated than that. They trust you

844
00:45:19,480 --> 00:45:23,279
Speaker 3: get open, all right, I got you. It's sometimes that's

845
00:45:23,320 --> 00:45:25,880
Speaker 3: what it gets down to. I'll say this, it's not

846
00:45:25,960 --> 00:45:29,200
Speaker 3: just me. True story and this was this has been

847
00:45:29,200 --> 00:45:31,960
Speaker 3: corroborated with public now, these guys have spoken publicly about this.

848
00:45:33,560 --> 00:45:36,400
Speaker 3: The Dallas Cowboys are in the NFC Championship game against

849
00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:38,319
Speaker 3: the San Francisco forty nine ers and they get they're

850
00:45:38,320 --> 00:45:41,880
Speaker 3: getting thumped twenty one nothing early and they're trying to

851
00:45:41,920 --> 00:45:43,920
Speaker 3: climb out of this and they're coming out of their

852
00:45:43,920 --> 00:45:46,880
Speaker 3: own it and Troy Aikman looks at at Michael Irvin

853
00:45:46,920 --> 00:45:49,239
Speaker 3: says he calls the play, then looks at me, says,

854
00:45:49,239 --> 00:45:54,400
Speaker 3: I'm coming to you no matter what. That's why. That's

855
00:45:54,440 --> 00:45:57,319
Speaker 3: that's how it works, baby, I'm coming to you no

856
00:45:57,360 --> 00:46:01,040
Speaker 3: matter what. And they do they do, you can lie.

857
00:46:01,080 --> 00:46:03,440
Speaker 3: It's funny to think about when they say all that

858
00:46:03,640 --> 00:46:07,160
Speaker 3: they watched true and they rotate that safety. I'm coming

859
00:46:07,160 --> 00:46:08,960
Speaker 3: to you no matter what. That's it.

860
00:46:09,040 --> 00:46:12,120
Speaker 2: They could have seven safeties over there. I'm still throwing it.

861
00:46:12,560 --> 00:46:14,600
Speaker 3: I'm coming to you no matter what. Mike Levering laugh

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Speaker 2: of discussion here, what kind of Brookie season do you

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Speaker 2: need to see from wide receiver Keon Coleman to be

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Speaker 2: a happy camper here with the draft choice, we want

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Speaker 2: the Buffalo Bills, and from Keon Coleman. Truther says, just

892
00:48:20,520 --> 00:48:29,000
Speaker 2: consistent hands and brutal run blocking because balance is key. Yeah,

893
00:48:27,960 --> 00:48:31,640
Speaker 2: I was thinking about this kind of the complete game. Yeah,

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00:48:31,640 --> 00:48:34,239
Speaker 2: we always we always tend to simplify these answers a

895
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Speaker 2: little bit more than they are. It's a complex answer,

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Speaker 2: but I think what and like I said, we're always

897
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Speaker 2: minimizing it. We're taking them what what is the least

898
00:48:42,480 --> 00:48:45,680
Speaker 2: you can take? And I think for me, you want

899
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Speaker 2: to see the guy do two things, particularly here in Buffalo,

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00:48:52,719 --> 00:48:56,120
Speaker 2: look like a pro and try hard.

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00:48:56,600 --> 00:48:59,080
Speaker 3: Nothing. Nothing is worse than having a guy like Keon

902
00:48:59,160 --> 00:49:03,880
Speaker 3: Coleman come in and coast if he tries hard and

903
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Speaker 3: he looks like a pro, makes a catcher, makes the

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00:49:06,760 --> 00:49:09,160
Speaker 3: plays that are there for him to be made. Consistency,

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Speaker 3: just be a pro, be consistent, show up every day

906
00:49:12,440 --> 00:49:16,279
Speaker 3: and try hard. I'll say, nothing is worse than seeing

907
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Speaker 3: your team pick a guy and having the guy fold

908
00:49:18,960 --> 00:49:21,880
Speaker 3: up on himself and just you know, call it a

909
00:49:21,960 --> 00:49:24,520
Speaker 3: call it a career. And we've seen it here in Buffalo, right,

910
00:49:24,520 --> 00:49:26,480
Speaker 3: We've seen it on a number of occasions where guys

911
00:49:26,520 --> 00:49:29,239
Speaker 3: taking in the draft either high or wherever, you don't

912
00:49:29,239 --> 00:49:31,520
Speaker 3: see him too much when they're down picked down low.

913
00:49:31,560 --> 00:49:33,719
Speaker 3: But there have been guys like that, guys who get

914
00:49:33,760 --> 00:49:36,919
Speaker 3: picked sixth seventh round of the draft, fifth, sixth seventh

915
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Speaker 3: round of the draft, and you never see him because

916
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Speaker 3: they just don't know how to work hard, or they

917
00:49:42,880 --> 00:49:45,759
Speaker 3: don't it's they're not passionate about it, they're not they're not.

918
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Speaker 3: You know, it's not urgent for them. Every play is

919
00:49:49,040 --> 00:49:51,680
Speaker 3: not a not a contest for them. That's what you

920
00:49:51,719 --> 00:49:53,399
Speaker 3: want to see, I think from Keon Coleman. You want

921
00:49:53,400 --> 00:49:55,920
Speaker 3: to see him look like he belongs and look like

922
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Speaker 3: he's really really thrown himself.

923
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Speaker 2: In, dialed in, dialed in.

924
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Speaker 3: That's because if you think about that, if you think

925
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Speaker 3: in those terms, the production will take care of itself.

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Speaker 2: It'll come from that kind of investment.

927
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Speaker 3: I think inside of it, You've got to look at

928
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Speaker 3: him and see what you want to see in there.

929
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Speaker 3: You want to see a guy who cares about it

930
00:50:14,360 --> 00:50:17,440
Speaker 3: and is working really hard at it. His tools and

931
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Speaker 3: his opportunity and his production will follow.

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Speaker 2: We have to step aside here, take another break. But

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Speaker 2: when we come back, we're going to be joined by

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Speaker 2: ESPN NFL senior writer and analyst Mike Clay. He's got

935
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Speaker 2: some projections for the twenty twenty four season, including that

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Speaker 2: of one. Kean Coleman will cover that and more with

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Speaker 2: Mike Clay when we return here on One Bill's Live

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Speaker 6: It's Buffalo Bill's Radio.

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Speaker 1: The One Bill's Live presented by Kalida Health.

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Speaker 2: All Right, welcome back our number two here on this Tuesday,

942
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Speaker 2: Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you one Bill's Live. Please

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Speaker 2: to be joined now by ESPN NFL senior writer and

944
00:51:39,760 --> 00:51:42,600
Speaker 2: reporter Mike Clay joining us on the show with his

945
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Speaker 2: famed projections which are already out for twenty twenty four. Mike,

946
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Speaker 2: thanks for joining us. First and foremost, we'll kind of

947
00:51:50,680 --> 00:51:54,000
Speaker 2: dive into the nuts and bolts of your Bills projections.

948
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Speaker 2: The one that maybe jumped out at me the most

949
00:51:58,080 --> 00:52:02,800
Speaker 2: I would have to say is the democratic or communal

950
00:52:02,840 --> 00:52:07,120
Speaker 2: distribution of receiving touchdowns in the receiving corps. My question

951
00:52:07,200 --> 00:52:09,400
Speaker 2: to you is, I'm sure you've had this happen to

952
00:52:09,440 --> 00:52:12,319
Speaker 2: you before with your team by team projections. When you

953
00:52:12,520 --> 00:52:16,000
Speaker 2: have a team that had the roster turnover like the

954
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Speaker 2: Bills had at the receiver position, what is your general

955
00:52:19,920 --> 00:52:22,799
Speaker 2: approach there when you're dealing with a lot of unknowns

956
00:52:22,800 --> 00:52:26,200
Speaker 2: despite what your algorithms and analytics might say.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, how about one word hedging? Yeah, a lot of unknowns.

958
00:52:34,080 --> 00:52:36,200
Speaker 10: You guys nailed it on the head. I mean you

959
00:52:36,239 --> 00:52:39,759
Speaker 10: bring in Teon Coleman and what the range of outcomes

960
00:52:39,760 --> 00:52:42,319
Speaker 10: for a guy like that is very wide? We've seen

961
00:52:42,360 --> 00:52:45,960
Speaker 10: it from these young wide receivers first round or second rounders.

962
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Speaker 10: Sometimes they step in in their immediate stars, heavy target shairs,

963
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Speaker 10: especially guys picked early in the first round, but recently

964
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Speaker 10: in last decade, we've seen second rounders do something similar.

965
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Speaker 10: So it could be that or look, there's probably a

966
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Speaker 10: sixty percent chance he's not going to be very good

967
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Speaker 10: based on the odds if you just look at the

968
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Speaker 10: hit rate four wide receivers and in the NFL draft,

969
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Speaker 10: So that has to be accounted for as well. So

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00:53:10,760 --> 00:53:12,680
Speaker 10: I do him with ninety six targets. I have him

971
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Speaker 10: with a pretty solid rookie season. I think if he

972
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Speaker 10: comes away with fifty nine for over eight hundred yards

973
00:53:17,120 --> 00:53:19,799
Speaker 10: and five touchdowns, are probably feeling pretty good about the

974
00:53:19,840 --> 00:53:22,960
Speaker 10: trajectory of his career. But I'm also not projecting him

975
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Speaker 10: to replace, you know, Stefan Diggs or I have a big,

976
00:53:25,840 --> 00:53:28,120
Speaker 10: big time season like that. Same time, I think Curtis

977
00:53:28,120 --> 00:53:30,200
Speaker 10: Samuel is a short range guy. He's going to run

978
00:53:30,239 --> 00:53:33,640
Speaker 10: the ball to see a lot of short, intermediate intermediate targets,

979
00:53:34,120 --> 00:53:35,879
Speaker 10: not going to be used a ton near the goal line.

980
00:53:36,960 --> 00:53:39,160
Speaker 10: Right now. If Khalil Shakira as the three, which is

981
00:53:39,200 --> 00:53:42,560
Speaker 10: obviously going to limit his statistical upside a bit. And

982
00:53:42,560 --> 00:53:44,520
Speaker 10: then Dalok Kaid's a tricky one. I mean, could this

983
00:53:44,520 --> 00:53:47,759
Speaker 10: guy score seven, eight, nine touchdowns in this offense. Absolutely,

984
00:53:47,800 --> 00:53:50,120
Speaker 10: but guys, he wasn't used near the goal line last year.

985
00:53:50,160 --> 00:53:52,040
Speaker 10: That was a really bizarre thing. They just didn't get

986
00:53:52,080 --> 00:53:54,960
Speaker 10: him the ball in that area. Maybe that changes this year,

987
00:53:55,000 --> 00:53:57,160
Speaker 10: but it didn't happen last year. So obviously that's baked

988
00:53:57,200 --> 00:53:58,799
Speaker 10: a bit into the projections.

989
00:53:59,000 --> 00:54:00,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you talk about the rejection for these guys.

990
00:54:01,080 --> 00:54:03,160
Speaker 3: Keon Coleman's coming into a situation where he's got an

991
00:54:03,160 --> 00:54:06,400
Speaker 3: elite quarterback and a total void at the top of

992
00:54:06,440 --> 00:54:10,080
Speaker 3: the wide receiver chain gave Davis, Steph Diggs vacate the building.

993
00:54:10,360 --> 00:54:12,719
Speaker 3: So they need somebody to take over those targets. Now,

994
00:54:12,719 --> 00:54:16,160
Speaker 3: certainly Kincaid, Cook, Shakir, all of those guys can factor

995
00:54:16,160 --> 00:54:18,799
Speaker 3: into that, but that makes it doubly hard to get

996
00:54:18,800 --> 00:54:21,200
Speaker 3: a handle on how good these guys might be the

997
00:54:21,280 --> 00:54:24,200
Speaker 3: high end. You're right, maybe you know eleven hundred yard

998
00:54:24,320 --> 00:54:27,719
Speaker 3: season and eighty five ninety catches, but it also might

999
00:54:27,760 --> 00:54:30,000
Speaker 3: be what you said down you know, less than fifty

1000
00:54:30,040 --> 00:54:34,120
Speaker 3: catches and six or eight hundred yards. It's the situation

1001
00:54:34,200 --> 00:54:36,480
Speaker 3: that each of these guys goes to really says as

1002
00:54:36,560 --> 00:54:39,520
Speaker 3: much about whether they can play as the guy's own ability.

1003
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Speaker 10: Yeah. Absolutely, And don't forget the bills that you know,

1004
00:54:44,440 --> 00:54:47,640
Speaker 10: Stefan Diggs, Gabe Davis, you know, all of the pass catchers,

1005
00:54:48,040 --> 00:54:50,640
Speaker 10: even Dawson Knox. In this offense over the past we'll

1006
00:54:50,640 --> 00:54:53,719
Speaker 10: say five years during the Josh Allen era, have benefited

1007
00:54:53,760 --> 00:54:56,920
Speaker 10: from not only a high scoring offense, but an extremely

1008
00:54:57,080 --> 00:54:59,919
Speaker 10: pass heavy offense. Especially over the last three or four years.

1009
00:55:00,400 --> 00:55:04,279
Speaker 10: We saw a switch flipped when they switched to Joe

1010
00:55:04,360 --> 00:55:07,760
Speaker 10: Brady last season. They went to a run first offense

1011
00:55:07,800 --> 00:55:10,319
Speaker 10: that took away some pass volume. Four Josh Allen, he

1012
00:55:10,360 --> 00:55:13,200
Speaker 10: still lit up the you know, the statue with rushing touchdowns.

1013
00:55:13,200 --> 00:55:14,880
Speaker 10: I don't think I don't know if anyone, you know,

1014
00:55:14,920 --> 00:55:17,839
Speaker 10: most people realize he had as many rushing touchdowns last

1015
00:55:17,880 --> 00:55:19,440
Speaker 10: year as Jalen Hurts. You know, it is all of

1016
00:55:19,480 --> 00:55:21,560
Speaker 10: that talk about the brotherly shove. I mean, Josh Allen

1017
00:55:21,560 --> 00:55:24,239
Speaker 10: had the same number of rushing touchdowns as Hurts go.

1018
00:55:24,920 --> 00:55:27,360
Speaker 10: He still delivered, but a lot more of the damage

1019
00:55:27,440 --> 00:55:30,320
Speaker 10: was done on the ground, and they might not change

1020
00:55:30,360 --> 00:55:32,440
Speaker 10: off of that and I'm projecting more of a balanced

1021
00:55:32,480 --> 00:55:34,239
Speaker 10: offense kind of in the middle of where they were,

1022
00:55:34,719 --> 00:55:36,640
Speaker 10: but they could keep running the ball if it's working.

1023
00:55:36,680 --> 00:55:38,960
Speaker 10: It did down the stretch last season they were still scoring,

1024
00:55:39,160 --> 00:55:42,800
Speaker 10: and now you don't have those experienced receivers in Davison Diggs.

1025
00:55:42,800 --> 00:55:44,600
Speaker 10: So I would not be surprised if they at least

1026
00:55:44,600 --> 00:55:46,319
Speaker 10: come out early in this season to try to run

1027
00:55:46,360 --> 00:55:46,840
Speaker 10: the football.

1028
00:55:46,960 --> 00:55:49,480
Speaker 2: All right, So let's let's elaborate on that a little bit,

1029
00:55:49,560 --> 00:55:53,400
Speaker 2: because we saw James Cook blow up for over almost

1030
00:55:53,400 --> 00:55:56,600
Speaker 2: sixteen hundred total yards from scrimmage last year, but you

1031
00:55:56,719 --> 00:56:00,839
Speaker 2: have his numbers a little bit below that from where

1032
00:56:00,840 --> 00:56:04,960
Speaker 2: they were last year. So are you anticipating more of

1033
00:56:05,000 --> 00:56:08,399
Speaker 2: a shared volume out of the backfield. I mean, Ray

1034
00:56:08,440 --> 00:56:10,000
Speaker 2: Davis is a guy that a lot of people are

1035
00:56:10,000 --> 00:56:13,279
Speaker 2: already projecting to be a vulture touchdown guy down around

1036
00:56:13,320 --> 00:56:16,600
Speaker 2: the goal line because of his thick, compact build. Does

1037
00:56:16,640 --> 00:56:19,160
Speaker 2: that mean fewer rushing touchdowns for Josh Allen based on

1038
00:56:19,200 --> 00:56:22,640
Speaker 2: your projections, I would say yes, So maybe just talk

1039
00:56:22,680 --> 00:56:26,759
Speaker 2: to us about your formula in kind of projecting that

1040
00:56:26,880 --> 00:56:29,600
Speaker 2: running back room now with the new kid Ray Davis

1041
00:56:29,600 --> 00:56:30,000
Speaker 2: there too.

1042
00:56:31,560 --> 00:56:34,120
Speaker 10: Yeah, some of it is a little bit of regression

1043
00:56:34,120 --> 00:56:36,279
Speaker 10: to the mean. In the efficiency department, it's really just

1044
00:56:36,360 --> 00:56:40,040
Speaker 10: so hard to sustain elite levels of efficiency. I mean,

1045
00:56:40,040 --> 00:56:42,440
Speaker 10: you look across the division, Devon h Chan and Miami,

1046
00:56:42,520 --> 00:56:43,880
Speaker 10: same kind of thing. You know, I'm not going to

1047
00:56:43,880 --> 00:56:45,520
Speaker 10: project him for eight yards per Carrie. You know, it's

1048
00:56:45,520 --> 00:56:47,040
Speaker 10: going to be closer to maybe four and a half.

1049
00:56:47,080 --> 00:56:51,759
Speaker 10: So there's an element of that in here. Also, you

1050
00:56:51,800 --> 00:56:54,600
Speaker 10: know Cook coming. You know, we'll see if this is

1051
00:56:54,840 --> 00:56:57,799
Speaker 10: problematic long term, but some concerns about if he has

1052
00:56:57,840 --> 00:57:00,560
Speaker 10: the size to be a feature back in the NFL.

1053
00:57:00,560 --> 00:57:02,040
Speaker 10: You know, is he going to be a Saquon Barkley

1054
00:57:02,080 --> 00:57:04,200
Speaker 10: at Josh Jake if someone like that at Jonathan Taylor?

1055
00:57:04,520 --> 00:57:06,800
Speaker 10: Probably not. But he's really good as a pass catcher,

1056
00:57:06,840 --> 00:57:08,760
Speaker 10: So I do have him projected for forty nine catches,

1057
00:57:08,800 --> 00:57:11,200
Speaker 10: which is a pretty big number. And one other element

1058
00:57:11,200 --> 00:57:13,880
Speaker 10: I would point out here is that injuries are so

1059
00:57:14,000 --> 00:57:15,960
Speaker 10: prominent in the NFL. We know that I kind of

1060
00:57:16,440 --> 00:57:18,520
Speaker 10: it's so hard to pinpoint who's going to get hurt,

1061
00:57:18,520 --> 00:57:20,440
Speaker 10: so I kind of use a blanket injury rate. So

1062
00:57:20,720 --> 00:57:23,200
Speaker 10: for Cook, for example, you know, I haven't projected for

1063
00:57:23,480 --> 00:57:26,280
Speaker 10: what we say, thirteen hundred yards two hundred and sixty touches.

1064
00:57:26,320 --> 00:57:28,600
Speaker 10: That's in fourteen games. So if he holds up better

1065
00:57:28,640 --> 00:57:30,720
Speaker 10: than that, of course I'd be projecting a little bit

1066
00:57:30,720 --> 00:57:32,920
Speaker 10: more than that. But don't get me wrong, Love Cook

1067
00:57:33,080 --> 00:57:35,360
Speaker 10: think he's super skilled. I think he came into his

1068
00:57:35,400 --> 00:57:37,240
Speaker 10: own in the second half last season. This is a

1069
00:57:37,240 --> 00:57:41,360
Speaker 10: good offense. I'm expecting him to be very productive this year.

1070
00:57:41,680 --> 00:57:46,000
Speaker 3: And the division of the Bills play in with the Jets, Patriots, Dolphins.

1071
00:57:46,440 --> 00:57:50,360
Speaker 3: It's interesting because they've almost got the entire rainbow of

1072
00:57:50,520 --> 00:57:53,360
Speaker 3: quarterback play. And you've got the forty year old Aaron

1073
00:57:53,800 --> 00:57:56,400
Speaker 3: Aaron Rodgers. You've got the guy in Josh Allen who's

1074
00:57:56,480 --> 00:57:58,760
Speaker 3: right in his prime. You've got Tua who is chasing

1075
00:57:59,160 --> 00:58:01,240
Speaker 3: both of those guys kind of in the stay. Although

1076
00:58:01,440 --> 00:58:03,320
Speaker 3: you know the Dolphins were close to winning the division

1077
00:58:03,400 --> 00:58:06,320
Speaker 3: last year. Two has got some weapons around him. And

1078
00:58:06,360 --> 00:58:08,360
Speaker 3: then of course the brand new guy out fresh out

1079
00:58:08,400 --> 00:58:10,800
Speaker 3: of the rapper and Drake May. How do you think

1080
00:58:11,160 --> 00:58:13,400
Speaker 3: that is going to affect this race down the stretch

1081
00:58:13,440 --> 00:58:17,080
Speaker 3: and you know the way this division plays out.

1082
00:58:18,360 --> 00:58:21,320
Speaker 10: Yeah, So it's a well timed question because we're about

1083
00:58:21,360 --> 00:58:24,000
Speaker 10: to get the NFL schedule. So I've been working on

1084
00:58:24,080 --> 00:58:27,200
Speaker 10: that and something that I know, of course, we have

1085
00:58:27,240 --> 00:58:29,200
Speaker 10: the opponent's already, just not the order of games. But

1086
00:58:29,280 --> 00:58:31,760
Speaker 10: something that jumped out to me is that the AFC

1087
00:58:31,880 --> 00:58:35,480
Speaker 10: East once again is a very tough schedule that applies

1088
00:58:35,480 --> 00:58:37,840
Speaker 10: on both sides of the ball, especially to the offenses though,

1089
00:58:37,840 --> 00:58:40,080
Speaker 10: because they have very good defenses in this division. But

1090
00:58:40,600 --> 00:58:43,360
Speaker 10: you know, we expected the Bills to be a playoff

1091
00:58:43,360 --> 00:58:47,040
Speaker 10: contender once again, even if their roster, you know, had

1092
00:58:47,040 --> 00:58:50,520
Speaker 10: some transition this year. Miami same thing. They've been fading

1093
00:58:50,600 --> 00:58:52,240
Speaker 10: late in the season, but they've been so good early

1094
00:58:52,280 --> 00:58:54,600
Speaker 10: on they're going to be a contender. And then, honestly,

1095
00:58:54,640 --> 00:58:56,640
Speaker 10: I know the listeners aren't going to way to hear this,

1096
00:58:56,720 --> 00:58:59,600
Speaker 10: but I am very high on the Jets this year.

1097
00:58:59,640 --> 00:59:03,040
Speaker 10: I mean, they objectively are stacked across the board. So

1098
00:59:04,600 --> 00:59:06,720
Speaker 10: it really comes down to what you think of Baron Rodgers.

1099
00:59:06,800 --> 00:59:08,160
Speaker 10: Do you think he's over the hill. Do you think

1100
00:59:08,160 --> 00:59:10,120
Speaker 10: he's still the same bat that won the MVP two

1101
00:59:10,200 --> 00:59:11,920
Speaker 10: years in a row a couple of years ago. You

1102
00:59:11,960 --> 00:59:15,120
Speaker 10: could pick your lane. But honestly, they need an average

1103
00:59:15,160 --> 00:59:18,000
Speaker 10: quarterback to be one of the better teams in the league,

1104
00:59:18,000 --> 00:59:21,360
Speaker 10: and certainly a playoff contender. So that's three really good teams.

1105
00:59:21,400 --> 00:59:26,160
Speaker 10: New England's defense is fine. Obviously they're rebuilding offensively, so

1106
00:59:26,360 --> 00:59:28,360
Speaker 10: I'm not too worried about that. But overall, this is

1107
00:59:28,440 --> 00:59:31,160
Speaker 10: a tough schedule, one of the toughest in the NFL,

1108
00:59:31,160 --> 00:59:34,240
Speaker 10: and I think that could limit the Bills offensive output

1109
00:59:34,360 --> 00:59:36,760
Speaker 10: a little bit. You know, one other point I'd make

1110
00:59:36,840 --> 00:59:39,800
Speaker 10: here is, look, I get it, they have Josh Allen.

1111
00:59:39,800 --> 00:59:41,200
Speaker 10: They're going to be a contender as on as Josh

1112
00:59:41,240 --> 00:59:43,920
Speaker 10: Allen is upright, not to mention Sean mcgermott, who's one

1113
00:59:43,960 --> 00:59:47,439
Speaker 10: of the best defensive minds in the NFL. But last year,

1114
00:59:47,560 --> 00:59:49,560
Speaker 10: you know who's the best offense in the NFL the

1115
00:59:49,600 --> 00:59:51,880
Speaker 10: last five or so years, the Chiefs right there. They've

1116
00:59:51,920 --> 00:59:54,080
Speaker 10: been a powerhouse. They have Patrick Mahomes, they have Andy Reid.

1117
00:59:54,560 --> 00:59:56,760
Speaker 10: They fell all the way to tenth last year and

1118
00:59:56,880 --> 00:59:59,680
Speaker 10: offensive EPA, it was a big dip for them because

1119
00:59:59,680 --> 01:00:02,800
Speaker 10: they had some concerns at wide receiver. Similar kind of

1120
01:00:02,800 --> 01:00:06,280
Speaker 10: deal here in Buffalo this year. It's uncertain. So will

1121
01:00:06,320 --> 01:00:09,280
Speaker 10: not surprised me with the tough schedule, the turnover on offense,

1122
01:00:09,320 --> 01:00:11,600
Speaker 10: the turnover on defense. If the Bills take a little

1123
01:00:11,600 --> 01:00:13,360
Speaker 10: bit of a step back this season. But again, at

1124
01:00:13,400 --> 01:00:15,360
Speaker 10: the end of the day, you have Josh Allen, you

1125
01:00:15,440 --> 01:00:16,960
Speaker 10: have Sean McDermott. You're going to be in the thick

1126
01:00:17,000 --> 01:00:17,640
Speaker 10: of it in the AFC.

1127
01:00:18,400 --> 01:00:21,200
Speaker 2: Flipping it over to Buffalo's defense a little bit, It's

1128
01:00:21,240 --> 01:00:23,880
Speaker 2: a team that finished top five in sacks with fifty four.

1129
01:00:24,440 --> 01:00:27,040
Speaker 2: No Leonard Floyd anymore, who had ten and a half

1130
01:00:27,120 --> 01:00:30,360
Speaker 2: last year. We still don't know if we're going to

1131
01:00:30,400 --> 01:00:34,200
Speaker 2: see the von Miller of old this season. And outside

1132
01:00:34,200 --> 01:00:37,960
Speaker 2: of Javon Solomon, who they drafted on Day three, who

1133
01:00:38,000 --> 01:00:40,000
Speaker 2: we don't even know what his role might be if

1134
01:00:40,000 --> 01:00:43,000
Speaker 2: he's on the fifty three man roster. I understand why

1135
01:00:43,000 --> 01:00:47,000
Speaker 2: you only project them at forty sacks. Did you take

1136
01:00:47,040 --> 01:00:51,200
Speaker 2: into account at all not knowing who the defensive play

1137
01:00:51,240 --> 01:00:53,680
Speaker 2: caller is going to be either, because that's still up

1138
01:00:53,680 --> 01:00:55,400
Speaker 2: in the air right now as to whether it's going

1139
01:00:55,440 --> 01:00:59,720
Speaker 2: to be McDermott or new DC Bobby Babbage.

1140
01:01:00,120 --> 01:01:03,280
Speaker 10: A big variable there. The larger variable is just the turnover.

1141
01:01:03,360 --> 01:01:05,640
Speaker 10: A lot of big names, especially in this secondary, are

1142
01:01:05,680 --> 01:01:08,640
Speaker 10: gone from this group. I actually kind of, you know,

1143
01:01:08,680 --> 01:01:10,800
Speaker 10: I still like the cornerback room, though rare soul Douglas

1144
01:01:10,880 --> 01:01:13,720
Speaker 10: is very underrated. Christian Benford has been solid. Tron Johnson

1145
01:01:13,760 --> 01:01:16,160
Speaker 10: maybe the best nickel in the NFL. So I still

1146
01:01:16,200 --> 01:01:19,560
Speaker 10: like the cornerback room for sure. I like the the

1147
01:01:19,600 --> 01:01:22,120
Speaker 10: off ball linebacker group led by Matt Malano assuming he's

1148
01:01:22,160 --> 01:01:24,600
Speaker 10: healthy this year, but otherwise, yeah, there are there are

1149
01:01:24,640 --> 01:01:27,360
Speaker 10: some concerns. I mean you depth concerns up front on

1150
01:01:27,440 --> 01:01:30,440
Speaker 10: the interior edge rusher. Absolutely, I'm with you. I Von

1151
01:01:30,520 --> 01:01:32,840
Speaker 10: Miller projected for around four hundred snaps. I don't think

1152
01:01:32,840 --> 01:01:34,800
Speaker 10: at his age he's going to play more than he

1153
01:01:34,840 --> 01:01:37,240
Speaker 10: did last season. So they need some some veterans to

1154
01:01:37,280 --> 01:01:40,240
Speaker 10: pan out. They don't really have high pedigree youth behind,

1155
01:01:40,840 --> 01:01:43,320
Speaker 10: you know, the starters there, and then at safety again

1156
01:01:43,360 --> 01:01:46,440
Speaker 10: transition there with Rapp and Edward so and not to

1157
01:01:46,480 --> 01:01:50,240
Speaker 10: mention Bishop they just brought in. So definitely some concerns

1158
01:01:50,240 --> 01:01:52,920
Speaker 10: on defense. I don't think on paper they have a

1159
01:01:53,200 --> 01:01:56,080
Speaker 10: top ten defense right now, but I've said that before

1160
01:01:56,120 --> 01:01:58,680
Speaker 10: about them, and Sean McDermott always seems to maximize these guys.

1161
01:01:58,720 --> 01:02:00,560
Speaker 10: I mean, I don't know if we talk at about

1162
01:02:00,600 --> 01:02:03,360
Speaker 10: what he did with Micah Hyde and Jordan Poyer. I mean,

1163
01:02:03,440 --> 01:02:06,400
Speaker 10: Poyer was a journeyman, a backup. Micah Hyde was you know,

1164
01:02:06,440 --> 01:02:08,200
Speaker 10: he played a lot in Green Bay. He was a nickel,

1165
01:02:08,200 --> 01:02:11,720
Speaker 10: He played some safety, but he hadn't really found his

1166
01:02:11,720 --> 01:02:13,720
Speaker 10: his own in the NFL until he got to Buffalo

1167
01:02:13,800 --> 01:02:15,280
Speaker 10: and then he becomes an all pro. I mean, are

1168
01:02:15,280 --> 01:02:17,800
Speaker 10: you kidding me? So we've seen this from McDermott before.

1169
01:02:18,120 --> 01:02:19,960
Speaker 10: I'm not going to doubt him, and I'm not going

1170
01:02:20,000 --> 01:02:22,760
Speaker 10: to doubt this defense, but definitely a new look to.

1171
01:02:22,720 --> 01:02:24,640
Speaker 3: This yearnit One of the things that happened last year

1172
01:02:24,680 --> 01:02:28,440
Speaker 3: with Sean McDermott's defensive coordinator after taking over for Leslie Fraser,

1173
01:02:29,760 --> 01:02:32,240
Speaker 3: the defense probably was ranked a little less high. It

1174
01:02:32,240 --> 01:02:34,880
Speaker 3: was a top three defense with Leslie Fraser year in

1175
01:02:35,000 --> 01:02:40,240
Speaker 3: year out, but it was rarely spectacular. Under Sean McDermott.

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Speaker 3: They weren't ranked as highly, but they seemed to be

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01:02:43,000 --> 01:02:45,920
Speaker 3: more timely in their ability to make plays at a

1178
01:02:45,960 --> 01:02:48,760
Speaker 3: time when they needed him. It seemed to be Yeah,

1179
01:02:48,800 --> 01:02:51,640
Speaker 3: it seemed to be more effective of a defense even

1180
01:02:51,680 --> 01:02:54,240
Speaker 3: though it wasn't ranked as highly. Now Bobby Babbage takes

1181
01:02:54,240 --> 01:02:57,200
Speaker 3: over his defensive coordinator. How much credence is there into

1182
01:02:57,320 --> 01:02:59,960
Speaker 3: having Perhaps we don't know who's gonna call the defensive play.

1183
01:03:00,680 --> 01:03:02,800
Speaker 3: But if it is a new defensive play caller, how

1184
01:03:02,840 --> 01:03:06,120
Speaker 3: does that affect particularly says, nobody knows how Bob Babbitt

1185
01:03:06,280 --> 01:03:09,000
Speaker 3: is gonna call this game, So how does that affect

1186
01:03:09,000 --> 01:03:11,200
Speaker 3: the projections? You know? I mean that is an enormous

1187
01:03:11,560 --> 01:03:12,840
Speaker 3: an enormous question.

1188
01:03:12,920 --> 01:03:15,959
Speaker 10: Mark, Yeah, I mean I think you answered your own question,

1189
01:03:16,000 --> 01:03:17,680
Speaker 10: which is, we don't know. We don't know yet. I

1190
01:03:17,720 --> 01:03:20,960
Speaker 10: don't have enough background on him to make substantial moves.

1191
01:03:21,280 --> 01:03:24,560
Speaker 10: But again, I did boost this unit for McDermott's presence.

1192
01:03:24,600 --> 01:03:26,840
Speaker 10: I mean, whether he's calling place or not, he has

1193
01:03:26,840 --> 01:03:28,840
Speaker 10: a lot of say on that side of the football.

1194
01:03:29,080 --> 01:03:33,120
Speaker 10: He oversees it. He's obviously a genius defensive mind. Just again,

1195
01:03:33,200 --> 01:03:35,840
Speaker 10: what he has done over the years has been incredible.

1196
01:03:35,920 --> 01:03:38,560
Speaker 10: So yeah, I mean I didn't. I didn't tweak for

1197
01:03:38,800 --> 01:03:41,520
Speaker 10: the potential play caller at all. Right now, I don't

1198
01:03:41,520 --> 01:03:43,480
Speaker 10: know if it necessarily moves the need. I'm gonna lean

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01:03:43,520 --> 01:03:46,280
Speaker 10: heavily into McDermott, heavily into the recent history of this

1200
01:03:46,360 --> 01:03:48,840
Speaker 10: defense and certainly to the personnel it's on the field.

1201
01:03:49,480 --> 01:03:53,080
Speaker 2: Last thing, Mike from me, Josh Allen, as far as

1202
01:03:53,120 --> 01:03:55,840
Speaker 2: your fantasy rankings go, he's at the top of your

1203
01:03:55,920 --> 01:03:56,760
Speaker 2: quarterback list.

1204
01:03:58,120 --> 01:03:59,400
Speaker 3: I believe me.

1205
01:03:59,440 --> 01:04:01,480
Speaker 2: I get it. I get why because the guy uses

1206
01:04:01,520 --> 01:04:04,240
Speaker 2: his legs and is practically a running back wrapped inside

1207
01:04:04,240 --> 01:04:06,720
Speaker 2: a quarterback, so you almost get a two for one

1208
01:04:06,760 --> 01:04:10,080
Speaker 2: deal by selecting him for a fantasy football team. Do

1209
01:04:10,240 --> 01:04:13,640
Speaker 2: you think there are there is any reason to be

1210
01:04:13,760 --> 01:04:17,200
Speaker 2: concerned that and I know you tend to lean towards

1211
01:04:17,280 --> 01:04:21,360
Speaker 2: regressing to the meme that that touchdown rushing total is

1212
01:04:21,400 --> 01:04:22,640
Speaker 2: going to come down this year?

1213
01:04:23,960 --> 01:04:24,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, I do.

1214
01:04:24,600 --> 01:04:27,720
Speaker 10: I have n't projected for eight across fifteen games this season,

1215
01:04:27,840 --> 01:04:30,800
Speaker 10: and don't look, Let's be clear, eight rushing touchdowns is

1216
01:04:30,840 --> 01:04:34,080
Speaker 10: a huge number for a quarterback. Also, up, I'm around

1217
01:04:34,080 --> 01:04:35,440
Speaker 10: five hundred rushing yards, so.

1218
01:04:36,200 --> 01:04:36,680
Speaker 3: You said it.

1219
01:04:36,760 --> 01:04:40,640
Speaker 10: Still a top the fantasy rankings, Still an absurdly high

1220
01:04:40,720 --> 01:04:46,440
Speaker 10: projection for Josh Allen. I'm expecting another terrific season. So yeah, look,

1221
01:04:46,480 --> 01:04:48,800
Speaker 10: could he take a step back as a passer. Yeah,

1222
01:04:48,840 --> 01:04:51,840
Speaker 10: it's possible. We've seen it before where his efficiency has dipped.

1223
01:04:51,840 --> 01:04:54,480
Speaker 10: And obviously the supporting cast is a little bit differently

1224
01:04:54,520 --> 01:04:57,120
Speaker 10: and they're not as past heavy, so that's possible. But

1225
01:04:57,280 --> 01:04:59,520
Speaker 10: unlike someonem like Patrick Mahomes, who wasn't as good in

1226
01:04:59,520 --> 01:05:02,960
Speaker 10: the Fantasy last year when the offense dropped out. Josh Allen,

1227
01:05:03,160 --> 01:05:05,560
Speaker 10: to your point, will run the ball so much that

1228
01:05:05,640 --> 01:05:08,360
Speaker 10: he'll make up for that from a statistical perspective. So

1229
01:05:08,640 --> 01:05:11,480
Speaker 10: no doubt about it. If if you play fantasy, you

1230
01:05:11,520 --> 01:05:13,480
Speaker 10: want Josh Allen on your team, no doubt about it.

1231
01:05:13,920 --> 01:05:15,880
Speaker 3: Mike, thanks so much for spending some time with us.

1232
01:05:15,920 --> 01:05:16,720
Speaker 3: Really appreciate it.

1233
01:05:17,680 --> 01:05:18,840
Speaker 10: You got it, guys, anytime.

1234
01:05:19,880 --> 01:05:22,160
Speaker 2: All right. So that's Mike Clay kind enough to join

1235
01:05:22,240 --> 01:05:25,600
Speaker 2: us and share some of his projections. And I don't know,

1236
01:05:25,800 --> 01:05:29,440
Speaker 2: do you do you think how realistic do you think

1237
01:05:29,680 --> 01:05:33,919
Speaker 2: Coleman's projections you know that he had were for him.

1238
01:05:34,000 --> 01:05:36,960
Speaker 2: He's got him at eight hundred eleven yards, you know,

1239
01:05:37,520 --> 01:05:42,080
Speaker 2: five touchdowns. I mean I think that's how relatively again, yeah,

1240
01:05:42,120 --> 01:05:42,720
Speaker 2: let me pull it up.

1241
01:05:42,760 --> 01:05:44,400
Speaker 3: What's again? You got like I have here?

1242
01:05:44,600 --> 01:05:49,320
Speaker 2: He had him with fifty nine receptions, eight hundred eleven yards,

1243
01:05:49,320 --> 01:05:50,040
Speaker 2: five touchdowns.

1244
01:05:50,120 --> 01:05:51,960
Speaker 3: I think he'll have more receptions than that. I think

1245
01:05:51,960 --> 01:05:53,200
Speaker 3: he's going to get more snaps than that.

1246
01:05:53,280 --> 01:05:54,360
Speaker 2: I think more than fifty nine.

1247
01:05:54,360 --> 01:05:56,120
Speaker 3: Catch up because I think he's going to play more

1248
01:05:56,160 --> 01:06:00,320
Speaker 3: snaps And okay, I'll sign up for it. Think about it.

1249
01:06:00,520 --> 01:06:04,400
Speaker 3: Fifty nine catches if he catches half the balls that

1250
01:06:04,480 --> 01:06:08,200
Speaker 3: were intended for like Gave Davis had those kind of number.

1251
01:06:08,240 --> 01:06:10,880
Speaker 3: He had forty five catches and caught fifty percent of

1252
01:06:10,880 --> 01:06:15,520
Speaker 3: his targets. I think I think Coleman's gonna get one

1253
01:06:15,600 --> 01:06:16,880
Speaker 3: hundred targets, one hundred and five.

1254
01:06:17,080 --> 01:06:18,800
Speaker 2: I have him with ninety six targets.

1255
01:06:18,840 --> 01:06:20,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think he's gonna get like a ninety that's

1256
01:06:20,560 --> 01:06:21,000
Speaker 3: the bottom.

1257
01:06:21,040 --> 01:06:21,280
Speaker 5: I think.

1258
01:06:21,320 --> 01:06:23,280
Speaker 3: I think it's really from ninety six. I think all

1259
01:06:23,280 --> 01:06:24,640
Speaker 3: the way up to macause.

1260
01:06:24,280 --> 01:06:25,760
Speaker 2: I think Kenkaid is going to lead the team in

1261
01:06:25,840 --> 01:06:29,320
Speaker 2: targets maybe, which is which is what Mike has projected too.

1262
01:06:29,320 --> 01:06:31,040
Speaker 2: He has him with one hundred and two targets.

1263
01:06:31,480 --> 01:06:34,560
Speaker 3: We'll see. I just there's a lot of guys that

1264
01:06:34,640 --> 01:06:37,640
Speaker 3: can catch the ball in this offense. And I know

1265
01:06:37,680 --> 01:06:39,600
Speaker 3: we finished up the year last year running the ball

1266
01:06:39,640 --> 01:06:40,920
Speaker 3: a lot, and then you know it was kind of

1267
01:06:40,960 --> 01:06:44,280
Speaker 3: doing that more than whatever. I still think they're gonna

1268
01:06:45,840 --> 01:06:48,640
Speaker 3: As an offensive coordinator, you're gonna do what brings you

1269
01:06:48,680 --> 01:06:52,600
Speaker 3: the most production. And I think with Coleman in there,

1270
01:06:52,600 --> 01:06:55,320
Speaker 3: with Kincaid and Shakir and I think this is gonna

1271
01:06:55,320 --> 01:06:58,960
Speaker 3: be a really productive offense in the passing game, so

1272
01:07:00,080 --> 01:07:03,760
Speaker 3: as much as as much as it's it helps give

1273
01:07:03,800 --> 01:07:05,680
Speaker 3: you a sense of security that you can get first

1274
01:07:05,720 --> 01:07:08,440
Speaker 3: downs hand in it off You're still gonna have to

1275
01:07:08,480 --> 01:07:12,080
Speaker 3: score points throwing it, and I just I just think

1276
01:07:12,080 --> 01:07:13,840
Speaker 3: there's gonna be a lot of targets to go around.

1277
01:07:13,880 --> 01:07:15,800
Speaker 3: I think I think Coleman is going to be on

1278
01:07:15,840 --> 01:07:18,120
Speaker 3: the field like Gabe Davis was on the field because

1279
01:07:18,120 --> 01:07:18,960
Speaker 3: of his physicality.

1280
01:07:19,040 --> 01:07:22,480
Speaker 2: The one thing I didn't mention regarding Coleman's projections from

1281
01:07:22,520 --> 01:07:27,040
Speaker 2: Mike Clay is those five receiving touchdowns would lead the team.

1282
01:07:27,160 --> 01:07:30,160
Speaker 2: Based on his projection projections, he has Coleman with five,

1283
01:07:31,120 --> 01:07:35,640
Speaker 2: Curtis Samuel with four, Dalton Kincaid with four, then Shakir

1284
01:07:35,800 --> 01:07:39,600
Speaker 2: and Dawson Knox with three, apiece Mac Hollins with two.

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01:07:40,560 --> 01:07:45,480
Speaker 2: Those are his receiving touchdowns for Buffalo, which total twenty six,

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Speaker 2: counting two for James Cook and one for Ray Davis

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Speaker 2: on the receiving end. Twenty six total receiving touchdowns.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I okay, I think it'll be higher than that.

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Speaker 3: I do too.

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01:07:59,360 --> 01:07:59,840
Speaker 2: I do too.

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Speaker 3: I think I think the leading touchdown score on the

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Speaker 3: teams may have.

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Speaker 2: I don't think you're going to get a double digit

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01:08:08,200 --> 01:08:09,960
Speaker 2: touchdown guy this year. It's going to be a more

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01:08:09,960 --> 01:08:13,560
Speaker 2: democratic maybe. I think that the scoring is going to

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01:08:13,600 --> 01:08:16,360
Speaker 2: be spread out more than what we've seen in recent years,

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Speaker 2: with you know, Digs usually the top dog at nine

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Speaker 2: to ten touchdowns a season, maybe eleven, and then Davis

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01:08:23,200 --> 01:08:26,960
Speaker 2: was usually second with seven. Right, And maybe that's the

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01:08:27,000 --> 01:08:30,120
Speaker 2: thing to talk about more than anything else, not how

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01:08:30,200 --> 01:08:32,639
Speaker 2: all their catches are going to be spread out across

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01:08:32,680 --> 01:08:34,759
Speaker 2: the unit, but who's picking up the scoring?

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01:08:34,920 --> 01:08:37,679
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, here's the thing. Last year, Josh had fifteen

1305
01:08:37,760 --> 01:08:38,800
Speaker 3: rushing rushing.

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01:08:38,520 --> 01:08:41,880
Speaker 2: Rushing touch so that's probably not gonna happen.

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01:08:42,320 --> 01:08:45,160
Speaker 3: Right, But unless you know, they get this thing going

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01:08:45,200 --> 01:08:46,960
Speaker 3: where they get down close and it's just you know,

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01:08:47,120 --> 01:08:48,759
Speaker 3: Josh jumps over the pile and here.

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01:08:48,640 --> 01:08:51,280
Speaker 2: We go again. Was the predominant way to go down

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01:08:51,320 --> 01:08:52,960
Speaker 2: the stretch there when Brady was calling it.

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Speaker 3: And I don't have a problem with it.

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01:08:55,479 --> 01:08:56,840
Speaker 2: If it keeps working, Why would you?

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Speaker 3: That's exactly right, That's exactly right. So we'll see. You know,

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01:09:02,520 --> 01:09:04,880
Speaker 3: the brotherly show that they use in Philly is probably

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01:09:04,880 --> 01:09:07,559
Speaker 3: going to be explored to a greater extent by other teams.

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Speaker 2: But well, if you got an offensive line like the

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Speaker 2: Bills do now, granted there is a difference at the

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01:09:13,560 --> 01:09:15,360
Speaker 2: center spot, and.

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Speaker 3: Well that's the thing.

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01:09:16,040 --> 01:09:19,519
Speaker 2: If the projection, if the projected starters pan out, it's

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01:09:19,560 --> 01:09:22,680
Speaker 2: Connor McGovern at center, David Edwards at left guard, that

1323
01:09:22,720 --> 01:09:25,840
Speaker 2: could be subject to change. If Lyle Collins is lining

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01:09:25,920 --> 01:09:29,400
Speaker 2: up at guard and not swing tackle, maybe he factors

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01:09:29,439 --> 01:09:31,920
Speaker 2: into the starting lineup, perhaps, although I think his primary

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01:09:31,960 --> 01:09:32,920
Speaker 2: role is going to be swaying tackle.

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Speaker 3: If it's anybody except Van Pran Granger at center, the

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01:09:36,120 --> 01:09:39,080
Speaker 3: offensive line is significantly bigger inside.

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Speaker 2: With McGovern, with McGovern or Will Clapp.

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Speaker 3: Yes, any of those guys, because they're much bigger and

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01:09:45,520 --> 01:09:49,160
Speaker 3: heavier than Mitch was, Mitch Morse. Mitch was right at

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01:09:49,200 --> 01:09:49,679
Speaker 3: three Bills.

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01:09:49,760 --> 01:09:51,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like three three or five.

1334
01:09:51,439 --> 01:09:56,600
Speaker 3: These guys like McGovern's three twenty five. It's different. It

1335
01:09:56,600 --> 01:09:59,120
Speaker 3: makes a difference, makes a difference. So that may have

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01:09:59,200 --> 01:10:01,439
Speaker 3: something to do with it, no question. But once again,

1337
01:10:01,479 --> 01:10:03,080
Speaker 3: the offensive line is going to be big. It's going

1338
01:10:03,160 --> 01:10:08,280
Speaker 3: to be very physical and pretty athletic as well. That

1339
01:10:08,439 --> 01:10:14,719
Speaker 3: always factors into how productive and sustainable and consistent your offense.

1340
01:10:14,800 --> 01:10:17,080
Speaker 3: Is overall, not just running game and all that.

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Speaker 7: Yeah.

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01:10:19,080 --> 01:10:21,639
Speaker 3: So that's one of the reasons I'm still very, very

1343
01:10:21,720 --> 01:10:26,280
Speaker 3: high on this offense. And we're sitting here talking about it,

1344
01:10:26,320 --> 01:10:28,599
Speaker 3: and we talk a little bit in circles because man,

1345
01:10:28,840 --> 01:10:30,000
Speaker 3: I don't know what's going to look like.

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01:10:32,960 --> 01:10:36,600
Speaker 2: Well, because there are more unknown variables this year than

1347
01:10:36,640 --> 01:10:39,759
Speaker 2: we've seen in past years. Because each of the last

1348
01:10:40,080 --> 01:10:44,200
Speaker 2: four years Diggs and Davis have been a part of

1349
01:10:44,240 --> 01:10:49,519
Speaker 2: the receiving corps. Those two elements are gone, and the

1350
01:10:49,560 --> 01:10:54,280
Speaker 2: people coming in the door haven't been on the field

1351
01:10:55,120 --> 01:11:01,640
Speaker 2: any capacity with Josh Allen and this system. Although you

1352
01:11:01,640 --> 01:11:03,920
Speaker 2: can make the argument Curtis Samuel operated in a version

1353
01:11:03,960 --> 01:11:07,280
Speaker 2: of this system in Carolina under Joe Brady, he wasn't

1354
01:11:07,320 --> 01:11:09,559
Speaker 2: doing it, yeah, And he wasn't doing it with the

1355
01:11:09,600 --> 01:11:11,639
Speaker 2: other ten players that are going to be around him here.

1356
01:11:12,560 --> 01:11:16,519
Speaker 2: So you're basically looking at Shakier and Kincaid as your

1357
01:11:16,520 --> 01:11:21,200
Speaker 2: holdovers you know in past catching roles, and James Cook

1358
01:11:21,240 --> 01:11:26,000
Speaker 2: and Ty Johnson in the backfield. Everybody else has not

1359
01:11:26,680 --> 01:11:29,880
Speaker 2: caught a pass from Josh Allen in a regular season game,

1360
01:11:30,160 --> 01:11:34,519
Speaker 2: So you don't know how mccollins fits. You don't know

1361
01:11:34,520 --> 01:11:38,200
Speaker 2: how Keon Coleman fits. You're not certain how Curtis Samuel fits,

1362
01:11:38,200 --> 01:11:41,599
Speaker 2: although you can make an educated guess based on past history.

1363
01:11:42,120 --> 01:11:45,559
Speaker 2: And then everybody else after that, Justin Shorter didn't catch

1364
01:11:45,560 --> 01:11:47,680
Speaker 2: a ball from Josh Allen the regular season was on

1365
01:11:47,760 --> 01:11:49,760
Speaker 2: IR and then all the guys that were on the

1366
01:11:49,760 --> 01:11:55,639
Speaker 2: practice squad. So there's a lot of unknown variables on

1367
01:11:55,720 --> 01:11:58,880
Speaker 2: which we have nothing to go on, you know, in

1368
01:11:58,920 --> 01:12:02,840
Speaker 2: this offense with the coordinator specifically. So that's what makes

1369
01:12:02,880 --> 01:12:06,040
Speaker 2: it a veritable unknown in many many ways.

1370
01:12:06,120 --> 01:12:10,599
Speaker 3: And we don't know. And I don't think Joe Brady.

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01:12:10,640 --> 01:12:12,680
Speaker 3: I think Joe Brady has a vision. I think he

1372
01:12:12,720 --> 01:12:15,320
Speaker 3: has a plan, and he has a thought that maybe

1373
01:12:15,360 --> 01:12:18,280
Speaker 3: we can do this and this and this. They don't know.

1374
01:12:18,320 --> 01:12:20,639
Speaker 3: They got to see these guys, they you know, we're

1375
01:12:20,720 --> 01:12:23,160
Speaker 3: just you know this, This offense isn't even out of

1376
01:12:23,200 --> 01:12:23,960
Speaker 3: the rapper yet.

1377
01:12:24,920 --> 01:12:27,200
Speaker 2: Let's go back to the tweets sheet where Tim says,

1378
01:12:27,240 --> 01:12:29,840
Speaker 2: in terms of a projection, he wants to see from

1379
01:12:29,880 --> 01:12:34,200
Speaker 2: Keon Coleman five touchdowns and about six to seven hundred yards.

1380
01:12:34,200 --> 01:12:36,320
Speaker 2: I've got a feeling Claypool is going to cut up

1381
01:12:36,360 --> 01:12:39,720
Speaker 2: some of that field time. So Chase Claypool, who just

1382
01:12:39,800 --> 01:12:41,920
Speaker 2: signed last week as a guy we haven't even mentioned

1383
01:12:41,920 --> 01:12:44,639
Speaker 2: on the show yet. Does he become a factor? He's

1384
01:12:44,680 --> 01:12:48,559
Speaker 2: every bit as big and tall and fast, if not

1385
01:12:48,680 --> 01:12:53,200
Speaker 2: faster on a stopwatch anyway than Keon Coleman. Does he

1386
01:12:53,280 --> 01:12:56,320
Speaker 2: become a factor in this offense? Well, I have to

1387
01:12:56,320 --> 01:12:58,760
Speaker 2: wait and see see how the spring goes, how camp goes,

1388
01:12:58,800 --> 01:13:03,320
Speaker 2: how the preseason goes. We'll be able to draw better

1389
01:13:03,360 --> 01:13:09,240
Speaker 2: assumptions from that. Ryan says, six hundred and fifty yards

1390
01:13:09,320 --> 01:13:13,679
Speaker 2: six touchdowns is what I'm expecting. So some pretty moderate production,

1391
01:13:14,200 --> 01:13:17,320
Speaker 2: not you know, blow the doors off or go through

1392
01:13:17,360 --> 01:13:21,840
Speaker 2: the roof. But I mean that's that's solid third receiver

1393
01:13:23,439 --> 01:13:25,800
Speaker 2: type numbers. Maybe a little high on the touchdown end,

1394
01:13:25,800 --> 01:13:28,840
Speaker 2: But I think people I think one thing for certain, Steve.

1395
01:13:30,080 --> 01:13:34,400
Speaker 2: I think everybody is expecting Coleman to be a factor

1396
01:13:34,439 --> 01:13:36,639
Speaker 2: in the red zone and putting points on the board.

1397
01:13:36,680 --> 01:13:36,960
Speaker 3: He's too.

1398
01:13:37,040 --> 01:13:38,760
Speaker 2: I think that's almost universal.

1399
01:13:38,400 --> 01:13:41,599
Speaker 3: Don't Jagan Athletic? Yes, you would, And for sure he's

1400
01:13:41,640 --> 01:13:43,839
Speaker 3: the kind of guy you want on the field anyway,

1401
01:13:43,920 --> 01:13:46,960
Speaker 3: because now the defense is sitting there going, oh, get

1402
01:13:47,160 --> 01:13:49,559
Speaker 3: get a big guy on him. You know who's our

1403
01:13:49,640 --> 01:13:53,040
Speaker 3: tallest corner or get a safety over the top, and

1404
01:13:53,080 --> 01:13:55,599
Speaker 3: we gotta have a plan for that guy, no question

1405
01:13:55,680 --> 01:14:01,719
Speaker 3: about it. That's right, So that that makes some sense.

1406
01:14:01,880 --> 01:14:04,280
Speaker 3: But six hundred and fifty yards to me, is not

1407
01:14:04,320 --> 01:14:07,840
Speaker 3: good enough unless they're unless they're scoring a ton of points,

1408
01:14:07,880 --> 01:14:09,559
Speaker 3: and I'm fine, you know.

1409
01:14:09,520 --> 01:14:13,480
Speaker 2: Like what if what if kin Kaid, Shinkir and Samuel

1410
01:14:14,040 --> 01:14:16,439
Speaker 2: are carrying the bulk of the load and they're productive

1411
01:14:16,479 --> 01:14:19,200
Speaker 2: every week and Coleman factors in as a role player,

1412
01:14:19,320 --> 01:14:20,360
Speaker 2: then you're okay with it.

1413
01:14:20,479 --> 01:14:24,200
Speaker 3: Well to a certain extent. Yeah, I want to see it,

1414
01:14:24,600 --> 01:14:26,080
Speaker 3: like everything. I want to see what it looks like

1415
01:14:26,360 --> 01:14:29,559
Speaker 3: if if he's an afterthought because he because here's the thing,

1416
01:14:29,600 --> 01:14:32,519
Speaker 3: it's like I keep saying, if he doesn't earn it,

1417
01:14:33,720 --> 01:14:36,240
Speaker 3: those other guys are keeping him from getting the opportunities. Yeah,

1418
01:14:36,240 --> 01:14:38,439
Speaker 3: that he's that he that we would wish that he

1419
01:14:38,439 --> 01:14:41,599
Speaker 3: would get. If he is getting those opportunities, you want

1420
01:14:41,640 --> 01:14:44,800
Speaker 3: to see him do it. You want to see him

1421
01:14:44,840 --> 01:14:48,040
Speaker 3: do it because he's going to get the opportunities he earns.

1422
01:14:48,920 --> 01:14:50,679
Speaker 3: If he makes the most of them, he'll get more.

1423
01:14:50,920 --> 01:14:57,360
Speaker 3: If he doesn't. How much of that doesn't makes him

1424
01:14:57,520 --> 01:15:00,360
Speaker 3: a disappointment, you know how far down are you willing

1425
01:15:00,400 --> 01:15:02,800
Speaker 3: to go to say? I don't know if he's the guy.

1426
01:15:02,840 --> 01:15:04,680
Speaker 2: I think a lot of these unknown burials make it

1427
01:15:04,720 --> 01:15:09,439
Speaker 2: tough to quantify because the circumstances could dramatically change based

1428
01:15:09,479 --> 01:15:12,760
Speaker 2: on and listen, who steps to the forefront, who doesn't.

1429
01:15:13,640 --> 01:15:17,920
Speaker 3: He could have a season identical to gave Davis the

1430
01:15:17,960 --> 01:15:19,720
Speaker 3: season last year, and if the Bills go to and

1431
01:15:19,720 --> 01:15:22,200
Speaker 3: win the Super Bowl, nobody cares. They'll be excited about

1432
01:15:22,200 --> 01:15:24,639
Speaker 3: having him come back. I mean, that's just the way

1433
01:15:24,640 --> 01:15:26,240
Speaker 3: they are. That's the way we are right.

1434
01:15:26,439 --> 01:15:28,840
Speaker 2: Break time for us here. When we come back. More

1435
01:15:28,840 --> 01:15:30,600
Speaker 2: of your phone calls will lead off with Jim in

1436
01:15:30,680 --> 01:15:34,559
Speaker 2: Rochester as we are, asking you what kind of rookie

1437
01:15:34,640 --> 01:15:37,280
Speaker 2: season do you need to see? From key On Coleman.

1438
01:15:37,280 --> 01:15:40,519
Speaker 2: Your calls next here on One Bill's Live, stay with us.

1439
01:15:57,800 --> 01:16:00,360
Speaker 2: What do you do outside football house?

1440
01:16:00,960 --> 01:16:03,320
Speaker 3: Go bowl a little bit?

1441
01:16:03,720 --> 01:16:03,960
Speaker 4: You go?

1442
01:16:04,280 --> 01:16:07,160
Speaker 11: I ain't I'm Tiger wish he could. I'm not Tiger Wood.

1443
01:16:09,520 --> 01:16:12,519
Speaker 11: I wish I could put it through all that them boy,

1444
01:16:12,520 --> 01:16:14,960
Speaker 11: I had to shooting five under. I ain't doing all that.

1445
01:16:15,320 --> 01:16:16,519
Speaker 11: I'm like TV five and.

1446
01:16:16,760 --> 01:16:17,439
Speaker 5: Just putting in.

1447
01:16:17,800 --> 01:16:19,920
Speaker 11: But I'm gonna go have fun like you know it's

1448
01:16:20,120 --> 01:16:22,800
Speaker 11: it's controlled chaos. You know you frustrated, but you can't

1449
01:16:22,800 --> 01:16:25,080
Speaker 11: get mad, pull a muscle on your betch trying to

1450
01:16:25,120 --> 01:16:27,200
Speaker 11: hit the ball. So it forces me to stay calm

1451
01:16:27,280 --> 01:16:29,040
Speaker 11: and just swing, just have some funds.

1452
01:16:31,080 --> 01:16:34,559
Speaker 2: Go inside the draft room with Bill's general manager Brandon

1453
01:16:34,560 --> 01:16:36,720
Speaker 2: Bean to see how he navigated the trades that led

1454
01:16:36,760 --> 01:16:38,840
Speaker 2: to the picks of wide receiver Keyon Coleman, who you

1455
01:16:38,960 --> 01:16:42,080
Speaker 2: just heard, their safety Coal Bishop, defensive tackle Dwayne Carter,

1456
01:16:42,240 --> 01:16:45,759
Speaker 2: and more. Plus get her behind the scenes look Keon's

1457
01:16:45,800 --> 01:16:49,080
Speaker 2: interview at the combine and the rookies first day in Buffalo.

1458
01:16:49,160 --> 01:16:54,040
Speaker 2: The next installment of Buffalo Bills Embedded premieres tonight on

1459
01:16:54,080 --> 01:16:58,320
Speaker 2: the Bills YouTube channel and Buffalo Bills dot Com. Got

1460
01:16:58,320 --> 01:17:00,080
Speaker 2: to get back to the phones as we are talking

1461
01:17:00,120 --> 01:17:02,160
Speaker 2: about one key On Coleman and what you need to

1462
01:17:02,160 --> 01:17:05,719
Speaker 2: see from him in his rookie season to be happy

1463
01:17:06,080 --> 01:17:08,280
Speaker 2: and to the phones and as promised to Jim in

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01:17:08,400 --> 01:17:10,599
Speaker 2: Rochester next, what's up Jim?

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01:17:11,120 --> 01:17:14,680
Speaker 12: Hi, guys, As far as the numbers, I'll hit that first.

1466
01:17:14,880 --> 01:17:16,120
Speaker 13: As far as I would expect.

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01:17:16,160 --> 01:17:21,360
Speaker 12: Similar to Cave, I think he's a will be a

1468
01:17:21,360 --> 01:17:26,280
Speaker 12: far superior receiver, but I think in his first year

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01:17:26,320 --> 01:17:30,240
Speaker 12: he may need a little bit more tutorial than we

1470
01:17:30,360 --> 01:17:33,840
Speaker 12: may think, coming from just a couple of years the

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01:17:34,960 --> 01:17:37,559
Speaker 12: Michigan State and one year at Florida State. But my

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01:17:37,680 --> 01:17:41,240
Speaker 12: real reason for calling was a Mike did clear the

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01:17:41,280 --> 01:17:44,040
Speaker 12: stuff for me? Did Mike Clay say that Kean had

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01:17:44,080 --> 01:17:47,840
Speaker 12: a fort chance of success.

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01:17:48,800 --> 01:17:52,320
Speaker 2: Based on history, based on past history of second round

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01:17:52,400 --> 01:17:54,400
Speaker 2: draft choices. I'm going to get into some second round

1477
01:17:54,479 --> 01:17:56,559
Speaker 2: draft choices that I looked up who were receivers over

1478
01:17:56,600 --> 01:18:00,000
Speaker 2: the last three years. But that's what the statistical history,

1479
01:18:00,120 --> 01:18:00,599
Speaker 2: he says.

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01:18:01,800 --> 01:18:02,040
Speaker 5: I know.

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01:18:02,120 --> 01:18:04,680
Speaker 7: But that to me, that's ridiculous.

1482
01:18:05,880 --> 01:18:08,840
Speaker 12: The statistical history if it does not include the type

1483
01:18:08,840 --> 01:18:12,679
Speaker 12: of quarterback well right, getting thrown to from Son, that's

1484
01:18:12,680 --> 01:18:16,240
Speaker 12: a ridiculous stat You're gonna tell me that Zach Wilson

1485
01:18:16,360 --> 01:18:19,960
Speaker 12: is gonna help somebody stay in the NFL versus Josh.

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01:18:20,360 --> 01:18:22,960
Speaker 2: I mean, come on, yeah, I get what you're saying, Jim.

1487
01:18:23,040 --> 01:18:28,439
Speaker 2: You're preaching to the choir. Circumstance and situation has an

1488
01:18:28,439 --> 01:18:30,760
Speaker 2: awful lot to do with it. Now that being said,

1489
01:18:30,800 --> 01:18:33,240
Speaker 2: I will tell you Garrett Wilson had over a thousand

1490
01:18:33,320 --> 01:18:36,720
Speaker 2: yards receiving when Zach Wilson was his quarterback his rookie year.

1491
01:18:36,960 --> 01:18:38,720
Speaker 2: Now he was a top ten draft choice, not a

1492
01:18:38,720 --> 01:18:42,160
Speaker 2: second round pick. But there are examples, and we'll get

1493
01:18:42,160 --> 01:18:43,600
Speaker 2: to those in a second, But first I want to

1494
01:18:43,600 --> 01:18:45,080
Speaker 2: get to Mark and West Seneca. What do you got

1495
01:18:45,080 --> 01:18:45,559
Speaker 2: for his mark?

1496
01:18:46,120 --> 01:18:50,120
Speaker 9: Hey, guys, just I think we're focusing way, way too

1497
01:18:50,200 --> 01:18:53,519
Speaker 9: much on stats. For one main reason. I think the

1498
01:18:53,680 --> 01:18:57,479
Speaker 9: Bills overall in the past catching group have a lot

1499
01:18:57,520 --> 01:18:59,519
Speaker 9: more talent than a lot of people want to give

1500
01:18:59,560 --> 01:19:03,639
Speaker 9: them credit for Number one. Number two, what I'm looking

1501
01:19:03,680 --> 01:19:07,920
Speaker 9: for from Keon is by games four or five, that

1502
01:19:08,000 --> 01:19:11,160
Speaker 9: he's on the field more often than not, let's say

1503
01:19:11,160 --> 01:19:14,080
Speaker 9: seventy five eighty percent of the time, and then by

1504
01:19:14,160 --> 01:19:17,559
Speaker 9: mid season, I want to see that other teams are

1505
01:19:17,600 --> 01:19:20,559
Speaker 9: now starting to have to account for him. And what

1506
01:19:20,600 --> 01:19:24,120
Speaker 9: I mean by that is more than just call your

1507
01:19:24,160 --> 01:19:27,800
Speaker 9: pass coverage whoever's over there. If Keon comes out there,

1508
01:19:27,840 --> 01:19:30,760
Speaker 9: you're fine with that. You're going to see adjustments and

1509
01:19:30,800 --> 01:19:33,679
Speaker 9: that you're going to start seeing more. You know, they're

1510
01:19:33,680 --> 01:19:37,120
Speaker 9: better players having to cover him and account for him

1511
01:19:37,479 --> 01:19:40,160
Speaker 9: because he's he's more than just just a catcher who

1512
01:19:40,160 --> 01:19:43,800
Speaker 9: can get the ball. He's now a threat and at

1513
01:19:43,880 --> 01:19:45,920
Speaker 9: least halfway through the season through the end of the year.

1514
01:19:46,479 --> 01:19:48,160
Speaker 9: That's what I'd like to see from him.

1515
01:19:48,479 --> 01:19:51,360
Speaker 3: So yeah, I get that. Hey, guys, thanks, it makes

1516
01:19:51,360 --> 01:19:52,720
Speaker 3: a lot of sense. I mean, you want to see him,

1517
01:19:53,600 --> 01:19:55,360
Speaker 3: you know, you got to kind of anticipate that he's

1518
01:19:55,360 --> 01:19:57,439
Speaker 3: going to start out a little bit slow, you know,

1519
01:19:57,520 --> 01:19:59,519
Speaker 3: ease his way into it, and then by the end

1520
01:19:59,560 --> 01:20:01,680
Speaker 3: of the year, you'd like to be as good as

1521
01:20:01,720 --> 01:20:04,960
Speaker 3: you can see him being at that level, maybe even

1522
01:20:04,960 --> 01:20:08,280
Speaker 3: a force on this offense, maybe an actual, you know,

1523
01:20:08,360 --> 01:20:11,760
Speaker 3: first option on this offense a lot more than than not.

1524
01:20:12,600 --> 01:20:16,519
Speaker 3: I get that. I think that's a reasonable expectation to

1525
01:20:16,600 --> 01:20:20,360
Speaker 3: see some change in the way he's used from the

1526
01:20:20,360 --> 01:20:22,839
Speaker 3: beginning of the season to the end of the season,

1527
01:20:23,000 --> 01:20:26,320
Speaker 3: even by Joe Brady, but also by what he's capable

1528
01:20:26,360 --> 01:20:29,280
Speaker 3: of and what they're comfortable giving him and having him.

1529
01:20:29,320 --> 01:20:32,920
Speaker 3: Like I've said throughout the show, when he gets opportunities

1530
01:20:32,920 --> 01:20:34,519
Speaker 3: and he makes the most of them, he gets more

1531
01:20:34,960 --> 01:20:37,759
Speaker 3: and you want to see that grow all of those things.

1532
01:20:37,880 --> 01:20:42,679
Speaker 2: Yeah, I did look up second round draft choices who

1533
01:20:42,720 --> 01:20:46,519
Speaker 2: were wide receivers from the last three drafts prior to

1534
01:20:46,560 --> 01:20:49,599
Speaker 2: this Springs draft, and I'll just run through it real

1535
01:20:49,680 --> 01:20:54,960
Speaker 2: quick Jonathan. Last year, Jonathan Mingo to Carolina played with

1536
01:20:55,120 --> 01:20:59,520
Speaker 2: rookie quarterback Bryce Young, a fellow rookie, eighty five targets

1537
01:20:59,840 --> 01:21:02,560
Speaker 2: for forty three catches four hundred eighteen yards, no touchdowns.

1538
01:21:03,000 --> 01:21:05,920
Speaker 2: Jaden Reed Green Bay played with a first year starter

1539
01:21:06,000 --> 01:21:09,799
Speaker 2: in Jordan Love but in his fourth NFL season sixty

1540
01:21:09,840 --> 01:21:13,080
Speaker 2: four catches, seven hundred and ninety three yards, eight touchdowns

1541
01:21:13,080 --> 01:21:16,760
Speaker 2: and two rushing touchdowns on ninety four targets, and then

1542
01:21:16,840 --> 01:21:19,160
Speaker 2: Rashid Rice as we know last year with Kansas City

1543
01:21:19,479 --> 01:21:22,599
Speaker 2: one hundred two targets seventy nine for nine thirty eight

1544
01:21:23,000 --> 01:21:27,280
Speaker 2: and seven touchdowns. Marvin Mims in Denver had Russell Wilson

1545
01:21:27,280 --> 01:21:29,759
Speaker 2: as his quarterback, but he was basically a primary returner.

1546
01:21:30,080 --> 01:21:32,080
Speaker 2: He only had like thirty three targets on the season,

1547
01:21:32,120 --> 01:21:34,280
Speaker 2: so I don't think he factors. In twenty twenty two,

1548
01:21:34,439 --> 01:21:38,040
Speaker 2: Christian Watson Round two to Green Bay played with Rogers,

1549
01:21:38,760 --> 01:21:43,080
Speaker 2: veteran quarterback, sixty six targets, forty one catches, six hundred

1550
01:21:43,080 --> 01:21:46,680
Speaker 2: and eleven yards, seven touchdowns, also had two rushing touchdowns

1551
01:21:46,680 --> 01:21:50,439
Speaker 2: for a total of nine. For my money, if you're

1552
01:21:50,439 --> 01:21:57,160
Speaker 2: comparing Coleman's situation, Steve with another second round draft choice

1553
01:21:57,160 --> 01:22:01,720
Speaker 2: at receiver. It probably is somewhere between Christian Watson in

1554
01:22:01,760 --> 01:22:06,040
Speaker 2: twenty twenty two playing with Rogers, a veteran quarterback forty

1555
01:22:06,080 --> 01:22:09,559
Speaker 2: one for six to eleven and nine total touchdowns, and

1556
01:22:09,600 --> 01:22:14,200
Speaker 2: then somewhere between Jaden Reid and Rashi Rice. I mean

1557
01:22:14,520 --> 01:22:18,760
Speaker 2: Reid's playing with Love. Rice is playing with Mahomes. I

1558
01:22:18,760 --> 01:22:21,680
Speaker 2: mean Rice was off the charts. Allen's not that far

1559
01:22:21,760 --> 01:22:23,240
Speaker 2: removed from Rice, but is he going to be the

1560
01:22:23,280 --> 01:22:25,320
Speaker 2: number one receiver in the offense By the time we

1561
01:22:25,360 --> 01:22:27,679
Speaker 2: got to midseason, Rashi Rice was the number one receiver

1562
01:22:28,400 --> 01:22:31,840
Speaker 2: in Kansas City's offense by default. So Jaden Reid, for

1563
01:22:31,960 --> 01:22:35,240
Speaker 2: my money, might be the sweet spot because he's right

1564
01:22:35,280 --> 01:22:38,880
Speaker 2: in between Rice and Watson as a rookie comes in

1565
01:22:39,000 --> 01:22:41,439
Speaker 2: ninety four targets, which is a number around where you

1566
01:22:41,520 --> 01:22:45,200
Speaker 2: thought it would be. Sixty four catches, seven hundred and

1567
01:22:45,240 --> 01:22:50,800
Speaker 2: ninety three yards, eight touchdowns, receiving, two rushing. That might

1568
01:22:50,840 --> 01:22:54,080
Speaker 2: be the sweet spot of what would be ideal for him.

1569
01:22:54,080 --> 01:22:56,000
Speaker 3: I want to see him catch more than sixty four

1570
01:22:56,160 --> 01:22:59,360
Speaker 3: of the twenty four targets. I want that at least

1571
01:22:59,360 --> 01:23:02,840
Speaker 3: to be seventy five percent seventy five.

1572
01:23:03,560 --> 01:23:05,960
Speaker 2: There's not many rookie receivers that have it that high.

1573
01:23:06,120 --> 01:23:08,360
Speaker 2: That's a high catch rate for a rookie. I'm sorry,

1574
01:23:08,360 --> 01:23:08,840
Speaker 2: that's what I want.

1575
01:23:08,880 --> 01:23:13,639
Speaker 3: Okay, you're asking me, I want an eighty per catch rate.

1576
01:23:13,840 --> 01:23:20,840
Speaker 2: Okay, Shakir did that, Kinkaid did that well. Well, I

1577
01:23:20,840 --> 01:23:24,080
Speaker 2: think Coleman, with a more accurate quarterback in Allan than

1578
01:23:24,120 --> 01:23:26,280
Speaker 2: he hadn't in college, could do that. But we'll have

1579
01:23:26,320 --> 01:23:29,720
Speaker 2: to see. We'll see to Brian out in Hawaii. What's up,

1580
01:23:29,720 --> 01:23:31,960
Speaker 2: Brian below high.

1581
01:23:33,880 --> 01:23:36,200
Speaker 13: So what I was calling about is, I, uh, you know,

1582
01:23:36,680 --> 01:23:40,560
Speaker 13: a couple of weeks back, I watched every single pass

1583
01:23:40,920 --> 01:23:44,880
Speaker 13: play that Ken Coleman had through Florida State, and all

1584
01:23:44,880 --> 01:23:48,519
Speaker 13: this talk about contested catches. What I seen on tape,

1585
01:23:48,520 --> 01:23:50,920
Speaker 13: and I'm no expert looking at tape, it's really one

1586
01:23:50,960 --> 01:23:53,320
Speaker 13: of the first times I really delved into it. It

1587
01:23:53,400 --> 01:23:56,240
Speaker 13: seemed to me that from the time that ball was

1588
01:23:56,320 --> 01:23:59,880
Speaker 13: snapped to the time it hit his hands, he was

1589
01:24:00,040 --> 01:24:03,680
Speaker 13: stared down by his quarterback for the entire play. And

1590
01:24:03,720 --> 01:24:06,960
Speaker 13: what I'm getting at is, when the entire defense knows

1591
01:24:07,160 --> 01:24:10,000
Speaker 13: that the ball's coming to you, I would imagine there's

1592
01:24:10,000 --> 01:24:13,400
Speaker 13: going to be a lot of contested catches. The interceptions

1593
01:24:13,400 --> 01:24:16,120
Speaker 13: that were taken off of him. You know, the cornerback

1594
01:24:16,200 --> 01:24:19,240
Speaker 13: broke on the ball before the thing was out of

1595
01:24:19,320 --> 01:24:21,720
Speaker 13: the quarterback's hand and ran right in front of him

1596
01:24:21,760 --> 01:24:26,439
Speaker 13: for an interception. His drops, they were contested catches, but

1597
01:24:26,560 --> 01:24:29,160
Speaker 13: again there were three guys standing around him by the

1598
01:24:29,200 --> 01:24:33,360
Speaker 13: time the ball up the quarterback's hand. So contested catches, yes,

1599
01:24:33,840 --> 01:24:38,000
Speaker 13: but I would say that his quarterback play no lookoffs.

1600
01:24:38,280 --> 01:24:40,480
Speaker 13: I think compounded that issue.

1601
01:24:40,320 --> 01:24:43,200
Speaker 2: Right, And I would take it a step further, Brian

1602
01:24:43,280 --> 01:24:46,120
Speaker 2: and say that, and this is not to knock Jordan Travis,

1603
01:24:46,160 --> 01:24:48,120
Speaker 2: who's now in New York yet and we'll be rehabbing

1604
01:24:48,160 --> 01:24:50,400
Speaker 2: a knee injury for most of his rookie year, but

1605
01:24:50,479 --> 01:24:54,080
Speaker 2: I'll even go so far as to say he wasn't

1606
01:24:54,080 --> 01:24:58,639
Speaker 2: all that accurate either all the time. So I think

1607
01:24:58,680 --> 01:25:02,120
Speaker 2: that's the one area where brand and Bean pulls something

1608
01:25:02,240 --> 01:25:07,719
Speaker 2: from college game tape that maybe not every personnel evaluator does.

1609
01:25:08,320 --> 01:25:11,760
Speaker 2: Another example of that would be Josh Allen. You know,

1610
01:25:12,200 --> 01:25:14,920
Speaker 2: everybody was all wrapped up with the fifty six percent

1611
01:25:15,000 --> 01:25:19,280
Speaker 2: completion percentage, and what they failed to recognize was after

1612
01:25:19,680 --> 01:25:22,679
Speaker 2: Josh's first year as a starter, he lost his three

1613
01:25:22,720 --> 01:25:28,519
Speaker 2: best passing targets to graduation. Bless you, Steve, And all

1614
01:25:28,520 --> 01:25:31,519
Speaker 2: of a sudden, he's trying to force balls to guys

1615
01:25:31,560 --> 01:25:34,360
Speaker 2: who aren't open, to try to make plays move the football,

1616
01:25:34,680 --> 01:25:38,479
Speaker 2: and his completion percentage suffered. And Brandon Bean's evaluation of

1617
01:25:38,520 --> 01:25:40,800
Speaker 2: that was, this is not a guy that can't put

1618
01:25:40,800 --> 01:25:43,759
Speaker 2: it on a dime. This is a guy who's trying

1619
01:25:43,760 --> 01:25:46,439
Speaker 2: to make a play when one might not even be there.

1620
01:25:46,600 --> 01:25:48,400
Speaker 3: One of the things as well with Josh, and it

1621
01:25:48,800 --> 01:25:51,519
Speaker 3: applies to Keon Coleman and his quarterbacks play as well.

1622
01:25:52,160 --> 01:25:54,840
Speaker 3: I had a guy who I got a lot of

1623
01:25:54,840 --> 01:25:58,360
Speaker 3: respect for, say he was a former NFL quarterback, and

1624
01:25:58,400 --> 01:26:01,200
Speaker 3: he said, listen, I'm watching this Josh Allen guy and

1625
01:26:02,560 --> 01:26:05,280
Speaker 3: the offense he's playing in one and they're saying about

1626
01:26:05,280 --> 01:26:08,840
Speaker 3: his completion percentage. Listen this offense. They're playing on wide

1627
01:26:08,960 --> 01:26:12,759
Speaker 3: college hash marks. He's dropping back to pass his outlet pass.

1628
01:26:12,800 --> 01:26:16,680
Speaker 3: When everything goes goes belly up. His outlet passes on

1629
01:26:16,720 --> 01:26:18,439
Speaker 3: the wide side of the field and it's a twelve

1630
01:26:18,560 --> 01:26:21,920
Speaker 3: yard out. I mean it's a nope, there's some quarter

1631
01:26:21,960 --> 01:26:24,080
Speaker 3: I can't even make that throw, let alone use it

1632
01:26:24,120 --> 01:26:27,439
Speaker 3: as a quick outlet. So the offense Josh ran in

1633
01:26:27,479 --> 01:26:29,680
Speaker 3: it at Wyoming. There was a lot of factors in

1634
01:26:29,720 --> 01:26:31,559
Speaker 3: that as to why he was a fifty two percent

1635
01:26:32,080 --> 01:26:35,880
Speaker 3: completion percentage. Guy personnel around him and the offense, and

1636
01:26:35,920 --> 01:26:40,120
Speaker 3: they were asking Josh, I mean, just tattoo the cape

1637
01:26:40,120 --> 01:26:41,519
Speaker 3: on your back because you got to put it on

1638
01:26:41,640 --> 01:26:45,320
Speaker 3: every single play bro and Josh attempted to do that,

1639
01:26:45,360 --> 01:26:47,120
Speaker 3: and I think that carried over with him into the

1640
01:26:47,160 --> 01:26:49,000
Speaker 3: Pros to a certain extent, not well too.

1641
01:26:49,320 --> 01:26:52,640
Speaker 2: But the point I'm trying to make is Jordan Travis

1642
01:26:53,520 --> 01:26:59,240
Speaker 2: I think compromised Keon Coleman's separation ability because of ball

1643
01:26:59,320 --> 01:27:03,960
Speaker 2: location and all placement, and compromised his effectiveness as a

1644
01:27:04,000 --> 01:27:07,200
Speaker 2: separator because he telegraphed a lot of the passes to

1645
01:27:07,240 --> 01:27:10,200
Speaker 2: Brian's point. So I think there is some validity to

1646
01:27:10,280 --> 01:27:12,960
Speaker 2: what Brian was saying, and I think Brandon Bean saw

1647
01:27:13,000 --> 01:27:15,760
Speaker 2: that in the college tape on Coleman as well, which

1648
01:27:15,760 --> 01:27:18,080
Speaker 2: is why he said, I know there's reports out there

1649
01:27:18,120 --> 01:27:20,400
Speaker 2: that he can't separate, and he said, I'm telling you

1650
01:27:20,760 --> 01:27:23,960
Speaker 2: he can separate, which is a nice way of Brandon

1651
01:27:24,000 --> 01:27:27,360
Speaker 2: Bean saying his quarterback made it harder for him. I think,

1652
01:27:27,479 --> 01:27:29,479
Speaker 2: and he would never say that publicly, but I'm here

1653
01:27:29,520 --> 01:27:33,560
Speaker 2: to say it because I saw that telegraphing passes inaccurate

1654
01:27:33,560 --> 01:27:36,360
Speaker 2: throws makes it harder on the receiver to make place

1655
01:27:36,439 --> 01:27:36,600
Speaker 2: for it.

1656
01:27:36,680 --> 01:27:38,320
Speaker 3: You'd like to know too. I mean, I don't know

1657
01:27:38,360 --> 01:27:41,080
Speaker 3: how many other options there were in Florida States. I've

1658
01:27:41,120 --> 01:27:42,080
Speaker 3: heard people say that at the.

1659
01:27:42,120 --> 01:27:42,639
Speaker 2: End of the year.

1660
01:27:43,400 --> 01:27:45,599
Speaker 3: At the end of the year, it was Keon Coleman

1661
01:27:45,640 --> 01:27:49,840
Speaker 3: and everybody else, right, So, and that's why Keon kind

1662
01:27:49,880 --> 01:27:53,160
Speaker 3: of got catapulled it into, you know, this conversation of

1663
01:27:53,160 --> 01:27:55,240
Speaker 3: being in the first round and the only thing that

1664
01:27:55,439 --> 01:27:56,760
Speaker 3: the only reason he's not in the first round is

1665
01:27:56,760 --> 01:27:58,679
Speaker 3: because he ran a tenth of a second slowness forty.

1666
01:27:59,640 --> 01:28:01,400
Speaker 2: We got to take a break here, but Steve and

1667
01:28:01,439 --> 01:28:04,640
Speaker 2: I to wrap things up, including a little nugget on

1668
01:28:04,680 --> 01:28:08,200
Speaker 2: the potential NFL schedule release. We'll get to that next

1669
01:28:08,240 --> 01:28:26,080
Speaker 2: here on One Bill's Live Stay with Us. So we

1670
01:28:26,160 --> 01:28:28,680
Speaker 2: mentioned at the top of the show, how you know

1671
01:28:28,760 --> 01:28:32,200
Speaker 2: you're hearing murmurs and whispers about when the NFL twenty

1672
01:28:32,240 --> 01:28:34,360
Speaker 2: twenty four schedule is going to be released. We had

1673
01:28:34,400 --> 01:28:38,000
Speaker 2: heard perhaps this Thursday, and then with very little to go,

1674
01:28:38,120 --> 01:28:41,320
Speaker 2: on this week, including no preseason schedule to speak of,

1675
01:28:41,360 --> 01:28:45,479
Speaker 2: which is usually the precursor. We're like, nah, probably next week.

1676
01:28:45,920 --> 01:28:49,320
Speaker 2: And then owner of that Colts Jim Irsay, decides to

1677
01:28:49,400 --> 01:28:53,639
Speaker 2: fire off this blast on his Twitter account. I smell

1678
01:28:53,720 --> 01:28:59,960
Speaker 2: a twenty twenty four schedule coming out soon, ellipsis football emoji?

1679
01:29:00,560 --> 01:29:01,719
Speaker 2: The hell is that, Jim?

1680
01:29:01,840 --> 01:29:02,760
Speaker 3: What does soon mean?

1681
01:29:05,320 --> 01:29:07,200
Speaker 2: It's called it? It's called a teaser.

1682
01:29:08,200 --> 01:29:08,960
Speaker 3: He's killing me.

1683
01:29:09,840 --> 01:29:13,360
Speaker 2: I mean, now, I don't know what to think. Maybe

1684
01:29:13,360 --> 01:29:15,599
Speaker 2: it means nothing? And soon is next week?

1685
01:29:15,640 --> 01:29:16,960
Speaker 3: Could you? Yeah? Could you give us?

1686
01:29:17,360 --> 01:29:19,599
Speaker 2: Tell us narrow the parameters a little us?

1687
01:29:20,040 --> 01:29:24,080
Speaker 3: When's it coming out? Dig They can't stand the pressure,

1688
01:29:24,080 --> 01:29:27,360
Speaker 3: they can't have it like it's done already. Come on, God,

1689
01:29:27,720 --> 01:29:31,840
Speaker 3: they're gonna put up the Christmas Day games up forbid individually.

1690
01:29:32,360 --> 01:29:33,240
Speaker 2: So yeah to the network?

1691
01:29:33,880 --> 01:29:34,720
Speaker 4: Do yeah?

1692
01:29:34,720 --> 01:29:38,559
Speaker 2: Because Peacock Peacock, NBC paid one hundred million for the

1693
01:29:38,560 --> 01:29:42,040
Speaker 2: Peacock game, one hundred million dollars.

1694
01:29:42,080 --> 01:29:43,519
Speaker 3: I'll say this, though, you got to give them a

1695
01:29:43,600 --> 01:29:44,719
Speaker 3: chance to get their numbers together.

1696
01:29:44,840 --> 01:29:46,760
Speaker 2: Probably a buck and a half now, right for a

1697
01:29:46,840 --> 01:29:49,960
Speaker 2: Christmas game. Christmas game the ratings were off the charts.

1698
01:29:50,800 --> 01:29:53,920
Speaker 3: Yes, you're right. It starts the bidding starts at fifty million,

1699
01:29:54,000 --> 01:29:55,439
Speaker 3: so it does.

1700
01:29:56,000 --> 01:29:57,240
Speaker 2: I think it starts at one hundred.

1701
01:29:57,320 --> 01:29:59,719
Speaker 3: No, well, it's not going to end it at fifty. No.

1702
01:30:00,600 --> 01:30:02,559
Speaker 2: That's it for us today. We'll catch up with you

1703
01:30:02,560 --> 01:30:02,960
Speaker 2: tomorrow