WEBVTT - #304 Packers Unscripted: Off and running 0:00:00.880 --> 0:00:20.599 Hi, everyone, Welcome to Packers Unscripted from Packers dot Com. 0:00:20.640 --> 0:00:23.520 I am Mike Spofford and he is my trusted colleague 0:00:23.560 --> 0:00:25.480 West Hodko. It's we're coming to you here from our 0:00:25.480 --> 0:00:29.480 studios at lambeau Field. Training camp is underway. Just want 0:00:29.480 --> 0:00:31.440 to give you a rundown now that we're kind of 0:00:31.480 --> 0:00:35.360 in this new production format with being online as opposed 0:00:35.360 --> 0:00:38.159 to on cable television. We still have the podcast obviously, 0:00:38.600 --> 0:00:41.120 of course, but through training camp we will try to 0:00:41.159 --> 0:00:45.559 post new episodes Slash Podcast on Mondays and Wednesdays, and 0:00:45.600 --> 0:00:47.600 then once we get to the regular season, we will 0:00:47.680 --> 0:00:50.440 revert to what has been our regular season format for 0:00:50.440 --> 0:00:52.480 the past two years, which is five days a week, 0:00:53.200 --> 0:00:56.600 Monday through Friday. So with that, let's get right into it, West, 0:00:56.720 --> 0:00:59.120 because the Packers as we speak right now, had the 0:00:59.160 --> 0:01:03.040 first few practices of camp under their belt, and it 0:01:03.200 --> 0:01:05.319 sounds like from what we heard from players in the 0:01:05.360 --> 0:01:09.040 locker room that things got off to a rather rousing start, 0:01:09.240 --> 0:01:13.800 you might say, with regards to Mike Petton's opening speech 0:01:13.840 --> 0:01:16.959 to the team um in one of those team meetings 0:01:17.000 --> 0:01:20.080 the day before the first practice, seems like he really 0:01:20.160 --> 0:01:23.000 kind of set the tone for what he wants to 0:01:23.040 --> 0:01:25.280 get out of this camp from his defense, he did, Mike, 0:01:25.440 --> 0:01:27.000 And the thing that probably stands out to me the 0:01:27.000 --> 0:01:28.959 most with Petton, and I wrote about this during the 0:01:29.000 --> 0:01:32.520 off season program, he always the three times I think 0:01:32.520 --> 0:01:34.840 he's spoken to the media now every time he coaches 0:01:35.120 --> 0:01:37.120 with we have yet to give up a yard, So 0:01:37.200 --> 0:01:39.959 you're always going to be in that honeymoon phase zero yards, 0:01:40.040 --> 0:01:43.320 zero points, so exactly. But I think he's hit all 0:01:43.319 --> 0:01:45.679 the right notes up until this point. I wrote a 0:01:45.720 --> 0:01:47.880 story going back to the off season about how he 0:01:47.960 --> 0:01:51.160 met individually with every defensive player in his position. Coach 0:01:51.480 --> 0:01:53.720 made sure to carve out that time go over goals, 0:01:53.760 --> 0:01:57.080 had players right down their goals for the upcoming season, 0:01:57.240 --> 0:01:59.640 something a lot of those guys really responded well to. 0:02:00.240 --> 0:02:03.640 And now they get back. Mike McCarthy said he wanted 0:02:03.720 --> 0:02:07.000 first time he's done this, he wanted all three the coordinators, Petton, 0:02:07.400 --> 0:02:09.880 Joe Philbin coming back as the offensive coordinator in ron 0:02:10.000 --> 0:02:13.800 Zook to speak to the entire team offensive defense, defense 0:02:13.840 --> 0:02:17.560 to offense, special teams intertwined into that. He wanted everybody 0:02:17.560 --> 0:02:19.560 to be on the same page and Petton being up 0:02:19.560 --> 0:02:21.440 in front of that room in front of Aaron Rodgers 0:02:21.520 --> 0:02:24.640 those offensive position players, giving them an idea of what 0:02:24.720 --> 0:02:28.000 he expects from his unit, what his philosophy for defenses, 0:02:28.200 --> 0:02:30.400 and what he believes the role of the defense is 0:02:30.720 --> 0:02:33.560 in a team's success. And for Aaron Rodgers to go 0:02:33.560 --> 0:02:35.720 out of his way. He wasn't asked about this speech. 0:02:35.760 --> 0:02:39.000 He brought this up on his own. Yeah. For him 0:02:39.040 --> 0:02:41.360 to do that in in mentioning that, you know, it 0:02:41.440 --> 0:02:43.120 was an all timer, a guy that's now in his 0:02:43.160 --> 0:02:46.520 fourteenth NFL season, that's been through so many different years, 0:02:46.520 --> 0:02:49.239 so many different coaches, so many different mentors. For him 0:02:49.280 --> 0:02:50.960 to say that, I think gives you an idea of 0:02:51.000 --> 0:02:55.000 exactly what Petton has done to this point to really 0:02:55.040 --> 0:02:57.120 get guys to buy in. Yeah, And what I liked 0:02:57.120 --> 0:02:58.799 about what I was hearing from the players in the 0:02:58.880 --> 0:03:01.000 locker room. I go back to a comment that Mike 0:03:01.000 --> 0:03:03.960 Petton made to the media. I believe it was when 0:03:04.000 --> 0:03:06.320 he spoke to reporters during the mini camp in the 0:03:06.360 --> 0:03:09.640 middle of June, and that he said, if he were 0:03:09.680 --> 0:03:12.240 to boil it down to one message to his players, 0:03:12.919 --> 0:03:17.200 it's more important how they play than what they play. 0:03:17.240 --> 0:03:20.520 And what he means by that is the attitude the approach. 0:03:20.639 --> 0:03:23.320 The mentality of beat the guy across from you is 0:03:23.360 --> 0:03:26.520 way more important than scheme and the xs and ohs 0:03:26.560 --> 0:03:28.840 and anything that he's going to dial up. And I 0:03:28.880 --> 0:03:32.600 asked Tremont Williams about that, Williams obviously having played in 0:03:32.680 --> 0:03:35.280 Patton's defense for two years in Cleveland when he was 0:03:35.280 --> 0:03:38.320 the head coach there, and Williams said, flat out that 0:03:38.400 --> 0:03:41.400 is exactly where he comes from. It's about beating the 0:03:41.440 --> 0:03:44.120 guy across from you. You cannot lean on scheme as 0:03:44.120 --> 0:03:46.720 a crutch. If a pass rusher, for example, it's having 0:03:46.760 --> 0:03:49.680 trouble getting to the quarterback, don't look to the sideline, 0:03:49.680 --> 0:03:51.800 don't look to the coaches to say, hey, dial something 0:03:51.880 --> 0:03:53.760 up for me to get to the quarterback. No, you 0:03:53.840 --> 0:03:56.520 beat the guy across from you first, and then then 0:03:56.720 --> 0:03:59.800 you know what Williams said, you start mixing in scheme 0:04:00.080 --> 0:04:03.080 to that mentality, then the scheme becomes a bonus. But 0:04:03.200 --> 0:04:05.400 how you win is to be is to win your 0:04:05.400 --> 0:04:08.680 matchup and and and that that message is definitely getting through. Yeah, 0:04:08.680 --> 0:04:10.880 it's the It's a tale as old as time. I mean, 0:04:10.880 --> 0:04:13.200 when you look at winning one on ones in this game, 0:04:13.320 --> 0:04:15.720 it is what it boils down to. And being able 0:04:15.720 --> 0:04:18.400 to if there's gonna be situations where teams double cover 0:04:18.560 --> 0:04:21.919 guy or put two blockers on a pass rusher, the 0:04:21.960 --> 0:04:24.280 other guys being able to take advantage of that because 0:04:24.520 --> 0:04:26.719 you always are going to have that one for one matchup. 0:04:27.120 --> 0:04:29.159 I think the thing that that really resonates for me 0:04:29.279 --> 0:04:31.039 so far with pet and coming in here and in 0:04:31.120 --> 0:04:34.120 that message of you know, we're looking for individuals and 0:04:34.120 --> 0:04:36.880 in winning those matchups rather than letting the scheme save you, 0:04:36.960 --> 0:04:40.480 so to speak. Mike McCarthy mentioned, I forget which portion 0:04:40.480 --> 0:04:43.400 of the offseason program this was, but you know, as 0:04:43.440 --> 0:04:46.560 parentially successful as the offense has been top ten and 0:04:46.600 --> 0:04:48.520 whatever it's been now seven in the last nine years, 0:04:48.640 --> 0:04:51.279 something like that, they want the defense to be better 0:04:51.320 --> 0:04:53.159 than that. They don't want the defense to feel like 0:04:53.200 --> 0:04:55.320 the step child. And we've only, at this point in 0:04:55.360 --> 0:04:57.440 time which we're taping the show, had three practices to 0:04:57.480 --> 0:05:00.279 go off of one of those being padded. But there 0:05:00.320 --> 0:05:03.880 just is an energy there um and in in a feeling, 0:05:03.920 --> 0:05:06.800 and I think an attitude that has been instilled with 0:05:06.880 --> 0:05:09.200 these guys that has been passed down and in seeing 0:05:09.600 --> 0:05:11.839 Pett and you know, bringing a couple of extra coaches 0:05:11.839 --> 0:05:14.440 but also finding you know, guys on this current roster. 0:05:14.600 --> 0:05:16.280 You know, you look at a guy like Joe Witt, 0:05:16.320 --> 0:05:19.120 who has been promoted a passing game corter. Their ideals 0:05:19.160 --> 0:05:21.520 a line and they all have a feeling in an 0:05:21.600 --> 0:05:23.760 in an idea of where they want this defense to go. 0:05:24.200 --> 0:05:26.040 And even though it's just been a couple of practices, 0:05:26.160 --> 0:05:27.880 I think you've been able to kind of sense that 0:05:27.880 --> 0:05:31.159 that mentality so far. Yeah, and there's definitely been plenty 0:05:31.160 --> 0:05:33.560 of energy on the offensive side of the tall as well. 0:05:33.600 --> 0:05:36.640 We saw in the first padded practice on Saturday, Um, 0:05:36.680 --> 0:05:39.080 a tight play in the end zone between Jimmy Graham 0:05:39.120 --> 0:05:41.599 and Josh Jones. They get into it a little bit. Hey, 0:05:41.640 --> 0:05:44.039 you know afterwards both guys brush it off. Hey, that's 0:05:44.040 --> 0:05:47.840 training camp. That's how it goes. But um, but if 0:05:47.880 --> 0:05:49.600 we want to talk a little bit about the offense, 0:05:49.640 --> 0:05:52.520 you're interesting to see that it looks like Aaron Rodgers 0:05:52.560 --> 0:05:55.160 Jimmy Graham off to a pretty fast start. Maybe some 0:05:55.240 --> 0:05:57.120 things to work on in the red zone, that things 0:05:57.160 --> 0:05:59.960 weren't quite clicking between them in the red zone work 0:06:00.040 --> 0:06:02.240 on Saturday, But as far as the stuff we've seen 0:06:02.279 --> 0:06:05.039 normal down at distance middle of the field, Jimmy Graham 0:06:05.040 --> 0:06:08.280 definitely making his plays. He certainly is, and again this 0:06:08.360 --> 0:06:10.760 is a guy that you have to see him to 0:06:10.839 --> 0:06:13.440 believe just how big he is and what he offers. 0:06:13.760 --> 0:06:16.839 And seeing those reps against Josh Jones, Josh Jones is 0:06:16.880 --> 0:06:20.159 a big kid, uh six ft two to twenty and 0:06:20.240 --> 0:06:22.080 you can see the height advantage. And we talked about 0:06:22.160 --> 0:06:24.160 last week and one of our three Things videos when 0:06:24.200 --> 0:06:27.479 Aaron Rodgers with how pinpoint precise he is when he 0:06:27.520 --> 0:06:29.640 puts the ball where the cornerback can't get it or 0:06:29.640 --> 0:06:32.240 the defensive back can't get it. Jimmy Graham also gives 0:06:32.279 --> 0:06:35.240 you a catching radius that widens that whole a little bit, 0:06:35.600 --> 0:06:37.080 and we saw it on a couple. I think one 0:06:37.080 --> 0:06:39.320 of them was that outroute last week was very impressive. 0:06:39.640 --> 0:06:41.799 Um just a really quickly pivot too. Because you mentioned 0:06:41.800 --> 0:06:45.279 the competitive rep between Jones. It doesn't always need to 0:06:45.360 --> 0:06:48.680 be something where guys are having conflict though. I even 0:06:48.720 --> 0:06:51.120 look at you know what Davante Adams and Kevin King 0:06:51.160 --> 0:06:53.200 have been doing in practice. You know there hasn't been 0:06:53.200 --> 0:06:57.400 any bickering or fighting or anything like that. How competitive 0:06:57.680 --> 0:07:00.279 those reps are for a guy that's coming off a 0:07:00.279 --> 0:07:02.560 pro Bowl working against the second round draft pick from 0:07:02.640 --> 0:07:05.240 last year trying to elevate his game. So, whether it 0:07:05.320 --> 0:07:08.160 is a Jimmy Graham and Davante Adams, you look at 0:07:08.160 --> 0:07:10.560 the defense, specifically the guys they get to work against, 0:07:10.600 --> 0:07:14.560 and and seeing those two, those two things kind of clash. 0:07:14.640 --> 0:07:16.760 To me, That's what I look for in these practices, 0:07:16.800 --> 0:07:19.000 and as time goes on now too, I think a 0:07:19.000 --> 0:07:21.240 guy like Josh Jones is gonna learn a lot from 0:07:21.240 --> 0:07:23.400 going up against the Jimmy Graham because you know what, Michael, 0:07:23.600 --> 0:07:25.559 there aren't a lot of six seven, two or sixty 0:07:25.800 --> 0:07:27.560 pound tight ends in this league that can do what 0:07:27.640 --> 0:07:30.480 Jimmy Graham does. Yeah. Absolutely, and and and to uh, 0:07:30.680 --> 0:07:32.760 to expound on Graham a little bit, he had a 0:07:32.760 --> 0:07:34.560 lot of comments. He spoke to the media for the 0:07:34.600 --> 0:07:37.640 first time in a while after Saturday's practice, yet was 0:07:37.720 --> 0:07:40.520 very complimentary, obviously of Aaron Rodgers. He had talked about 0:07:40.520 --> 0:07:42.320 that in April, how excited he is to be in 0:07:42.360 --> 0:07:46.080 this offense. One comment from Graham that really stood out 0:07:46.120 --> 0:07:49.320 to me though, was when he talked about how he 0:07:49.360 --> 0:07:53.119 can completely trust Aaron Rodgers not to throw a ball 0:07:53.120 --> 0:07:55.440 that's going to put him in a bad situation where 0:07:55.440 --> 0:07:57.640 he has to worry about one of those you know, 0:07:57.760 --> 0:08:00.280 across the middle type of hits, or or one those 0:08:00.320 --> 0:08:03.880 blindside type of shots that you don't see coming and whatnot. 0:08:03.880 --> 0:08:05.520 And it got me thinking, I made and I made 0:08:05.520 --> 0:08:08.360 this comment in our Insider Inbox column that you know, 0:08:08.440 --> 0:08:10.800 you and I. Every year there's a there's a few 0:08:10.880 --> 0:08:14.680 days where the group of officials comes in UM they 0:08:14.680 --> 0:08:16.680 show us, They show the media as well as the 0:08:16.680 --> 0:08:19.840 players and coaches a video of rules, changes, points of 0:08:19.880 --> 0:08:22.640 emphasis and all that for the upcoming season. The whole 0:08:22.680 --> 0:08:26.160 defenseless receiver thing has been a part of that video 0:08:26.280 --> 0:08:29.119 for a number of years now. They've been changing the rules, 0:08:29.160 --> 0:08:32.600 they emphasize different things. I can't recall one time in 0:08:32.640 --> 0:08:35.320 any of those videos that an Aaron Rodgers pass was 0:08:35.360 --> 0:08:38.040 in there. That says something, And that's exactly what Graham 0:08:38.120 --> 0:08:42.400 is talking about. Aaron Rodgers. Not only is his accuracy amazing, 0:08:42.480 --> 0:08:45.760 but he protects his players. His awareness of the field 0:08:45.880 --> 0:08:48.760 is such that he doesn't put his pass catchers in 0:08:48.800 --> 0:08:51.480 a compromising position. And Graham is one of those guys 0:08:51.480 --> 0:08:54.240 who really appreciates three dimensional chess. I don't know how 0:08:54.240 --> 0:08:56.319 many times we've talked about it as it relates to 0:08:56.400 --> 0:08:58.640 him and the pre snap, being able to win that 0:08:58.720 --> 0:09:01.240 battle at the line of scrimma, finding ways to draw 0:09:01.280 --> 0:09:03.959 guys off sides, finding ways to gain a favorable matchup 0:09:04.000 --> 0:09:06.040 for the offense, even you know, the twelve men on 0:09:06.080 --> 0:09:08.120 the field things. But I think that's a really good 0:09:08.120 --> 0:09:09.800 point you raised, because one of the things we never 0:09:09.840 --> 0:09:12.400 talked about because it's not an issue in this offense 0:09:12.880 --> 0:09:15.040 is guys getting lit up because of the ball being 0:09:15.040 --> 0:09:17.920 in a particular place that allows the safety or allows 0:09:17.920 --> 0:09:20.360 the defensive back to come in and lay a heavy 0:09:20.440 --> 0:09:22.680 hit on a guy. Um. And I think when you 0:09:22.720 --> 0:09:25.120 look at Graham in the course of his career, he's 0:09:25.240 --> 0:09:27.320 been able to catch passes from Russell Wilson. I know, 0:09:27.600 --> 0:09:29.319 probably didn't go as well as he wanted it to 0:09:29.400 --> 0:09:31.960 in Seattle, but you know, he also had Drew Brees. 0:09:31.960 --> 0:09:34.480 He's had some high quality quarterbacks to kind of take 0:09:34.520 --> 0:09:36.240 care of him. And now you also have a guy 0:09:36.240 --> 0:09:38.920 like Aaron Rodgers who with that precision, with that accuracy, 0:09:39.160 --> 0:09:42.040 also keeps his receiver's health in mind, a really big 0:09:42.080 --> 0:09:44.440 thing not only for the safety of the player, but 0:09:44.520 --> 0:09:46.280 also the health of the football team as a season 0:09:46.280 --> 0:09:48.400 where's on. Yeah, and the fans might be asking, is 0:09:48.440 --> 0:09:50.839 we're discussing this, so what about Davante Adams and those 0:09:50.840 --> 0:09:53.160 shots he took last year? Well, take a look at it. 0:09:53.200 --> 0:09:55.000 The first one against the Bears, it was a short 0:09:55.040 --> 0:09:57.839 pass over the middle. Adams was basically being held up 0:09:58.120 --> 0:10:00.320 by a Bears guy and then another guy comes in, 0:10:00.440 --> 0:10:02.680 Danny Trevathan and clocks him. And then the one in 0:10:02.720 --> 0:10:06.360 Carolina was after interception on an interception return, you know, 0:10:06.400 --> 0:10:09.000 which those blindside type of blocks the league is trying 0:10:09.000 --> 0:10:11.240 to eliminate and try to get rid of. Thomas Davis 0:10:11.240 --> 0:10:14.560 just lights up Davante Adams for no reason. So in 0:10:14.679 --> 0:10:17.320 discussing this, that hits that Adams took last year certainly 0:10:17.360 --> 0:10:19.720 not on Aaron Rodgers, although Rogers was not happy about 0:10:19.720 --> 0:10:22.000 the fact he through an interception, Yeah, totally. You know, 0:10:22.440 --> 0:10:24.000 I gotta say this too. I don't know if I'd 0:10:24.000 --> 0:10:27.720 bet a cooler cucumber right now than Davante Adams. I mean, 0:10:28.160 --> 0:10:31.240 the fact that he was willing to kind of make 0:10:31.320 --> 0:10:34.480 peace with Thomas Davis at the Pro Bowl too. He's 0:10:34.480 --> 0:10:37.320 a He's probably a bigger man than I at that 0:10:37.360 --> 0:10:39.760 point of his season, you know, trying to do in 0:10:39.760 --> 0:10:42.440 a contract. Oh yeah, he's he's in. He's in a contract. 0:10:42.480 --> 0:10:44.200 You're trying to get a new deal and everything. And 0:10:44.200 --> 0:10:46.319 then he ends up having to having to sit out 0:10:46.360 --> 0:10:50.199 the last few games with another concussions. It was certainly unfortunate, 0:10:50.240 --> 0:10:53.679 But I agree with you, Davante Adams very big man there. 0:10:53.679 --> 0:10:56.480 But continuing the discussion about the wide receiver's west, you 0:10:56.520 --> 0:10:59.400 wrote about a guy late last week, and we've talked 0:10:59.400 --> 0:11:02.520 a lot about the three rookie d wide receivers, how 0:11:02.559 --> 0:11:04.760 that depth chart is going to shake out. There's a 0:11:04.800 --> 0:11:08.680 young man from Wisconsin, Whitewater. Now it's early in camp. 0:11:08.760 --> 0:11:10.640 We haven't even gotten a family night letter in the 0:11:10.640 --> 0:11:13.400 first preseason games, so we you know, throw in the 0:11:13.440 --> 0:11:18.880 caveat that it's early. But Jake kumarole to me, there's 0:11:18.920 --> 0:11:20.640 nothing and I don't I don't mean this as a 0:11:20.640 --> 0:11:23.160 as a detriment to him. There's nothing that stands out 0:11:23.200 --> 0:11:25.679 to me about him except that when we're watching practice, 0:11:25.679 --> 0:11:28.520 he's getting open and making catches. And that's that's really 0:11:28.559 --> 0:11:30.320 the name of the game here for these young guys 0:11:30.400 --> 0:11:32.200 trying to make the roster. Well, I will say this, 0:11:32.280 --> 0:11:33.760 the thing that stands out to me about him, is 0:11:33.800 --> 0:11:35.839 he six four and twitter and nine pounds. I mean, 0:11:35.880 --> 0:11:38.680 he's a big kid. And let me put it this way, Michael, 0:11:38.760 --> 0:11:40.800 if you didn't know, he was coming from a Division 0:11:40.880 --> 0:11:43.000 three background and Whitewater has had a lot of success, 0:11:43.440 --> 0:11:45.560 power to them for that. But it is still Division 0:11:45.600 --> 0:11:47.880 three football, right, you don't see a lot of it. 0:11:47.960 --> 0:11:49.920 We saw Matt Blanchard at trying to make the roster 0:11:49.960 --> 0:11:52.800 a number of years ago. There isn't always a proven 0:11:52.840 --> 0:11:54.680 path for D three guys in the NFL. If you 0:11:54.679 --> 0:11:57.400 would have told me Jake Kumaroo take away all the 0:11:57.440 --> 0:12:00.400 colleges and asked which one is the Division three kid, 0:12:00.400 --> 0:12:03.400 I wouldn't have said him on this receiver's roster. That's 0:12:03.400 --> 0:12:05.520 a good point. And that's and that's quite a compliment 0:12:05.559 --> 0:12:07.920 to h Yeah. And and the thing that stands out 0:12:07.960 --> 0:12:10.600 to me is he had a phenomenal practice on Friday, 0:12:10.640 --> 0:12:13.080 had three catches in a two minute period, came back 0:12:13.160 --> 0:12:15.800 right the next period, had a nice play in the 0:12:15.800 --> 0:12:17.760 past under pressure where he was able to split the 0:12:17.760 --> 0:12:20.559 cornerback in the safety, made a nice cut CATCHU believe 0:12:20.559 --> 0:12:23.600 on a corner route. Look great. But what stood out 0:12:23.640 --> 0:12:26.400 to me is Saturday morning, McCarthy was asked about him, 0:12:26.440 --> 0:12:29.679 and there was no surprise. He said that they've been 0:12:29.679 --> 0:12:32.040 seeing this throughout the offseason program. It wasn't a one 0:12:32.120 --> 0:12:34.320 hit wonder. Now, don't get me wrong. Camarade has a 0:12:34.320 --> 0:12:36.360 tough road ahead of him to make this roster. There's 0:12:36.400 --> 0:12:39.560 seven guys at the receiver position right now that have 0:12:39.640 --> 0:12:43.679 been drafted into the NFL, including three this past year's rookies. 0:12:44.080 --> 0:12:47.240 Asked him about that on Friday afternoon, said that didn't 0:12:47.240 --> 0:12:50.800 bother him. He was watching, he was expecting it. His goal, though, 0:12:50.840 --> 0:12:53.000 is still to show that he can do this. His 0:12:53.080 --> 0:12:55.839 father was a first round draft pick, his cousin Joey 0:12:55.880 --> 0:12:58.640 Bosa Defensive Player the Year, a Rookie of the Year 0:12:58.880 --> 0:13:02.000 a year ago. He has NFL bloodlines, and he has 0:13:02.040 --> 0:13:04.360 full confidence that he can make that dream come true. Yeah. 0:13:04.360 --> 0:13:06.560 I wasn't aware when he came to Green Bay about 0:13:06.720 --> 0:13:09.920 the connection, you know, those family connections playing in the NFL. 0:13:10.080 --> 0:13:12.559 The last name sort of rang a bell. And then 0:13:12.559 --> 0:13:14.640 when I when you had looked it up in terms 0:13:14.679 --> 0:13:18.000 of his, uh, his father being a rather high draft pick, 0:13:18.080 --> 0:13:22.120 first round pick. Yeah, that's uh, that is that is 0:13:22.120 --> 0:13:25.920 pretty impressive. Those those bloodlines can can matter at certain 0:13:26.000 --> 0:13:29.000 points with regards to the rookies. A lot of people asking, okay, 0:13:29.000 --> 0:13:31.760 are there any of those rookies you know, eq St Brown, 0:13:32.200 --> 0:13:35.760 Jamon Moore, Marquis Valdes Scantling, any of them standing out? 0:13:36.160 --> 0:13:40.520 I will say this, Valdes Scantling unfortunately missed his chance 0:13:40.559 --> 0:13:43.000 to be maybe the star of the day on Saturday. 0:13:43.040 --> 0:13:45.840 He had made a great catch with a safety draped 0:13:45.880 --> 0:13:48.079 all over him in the end zone. You know, kind 0:13:48.120 --> 0:13:52.120 of a corner route there off to the side, great catch, 0:13:52.240 --> 0:13:55.360 gets his feet down in traffic, but then end later 0:13:55.400 --> 0:13:59.120 in practice runs a go route down the middle, really 0:13:59.160 --> 0:14:01.679 starts to separate eight from the defensive backs. Looks like 0:14:01.720 --> 0:14:04.680 a really good throw. Can't quite haul it in the 0:14:04.760 --> 0:14:06.920 end zone. He left his feed, he dove, maybe he 0:14:07.040 --> 0:14:09.679 didn't have to one of those kinds of things, didn't 0:14:09.679 --> 0:14:11.360 bring it in. If he had caught that pass. And 0:14:11.360 --> 0:14:13.480 I know if ifs and butts for candies and nuts, 0:14:13.520 --> 0:14:16.079 but if he had caught that pass, we'd be talking 0:14:16.080 --> 0:14:19.040 about him being, you know, maybe the early star amongst 0:14:19.040 --> 0:14:21.720 these rookie wide receivers. Here's what's interesting, Michael, I've covered 0:14:21.760 --> 0:14:24.800 this is my seventh full time training camp I've covered. 0:14:24.840 --> 0:14:26.840 I covered a couple before then on an interim basis, 0:14:26.880 --> 0:14:29.440 but full time to me, and I'm not trying to 0:14:29.440 --> 0:14:31.720 speak in hyperbole here, but this is going to be 0:14:31.760 --> 0:14:34.640 the most fun receiver battles watch. And we're talking about 0:14:34.720 --> 0:14:36.640 years where Jared Boykin came out of nowhere and you 0:14:36.680 --> 0:14:39.560 had Tory Gurley and and DeAndre Barrell and guys that 0:14:39.600 --> 0:14:42.520 you really were excited about, you know, possibly pushing the 0:14:42.560 --> 0:14:45.080 rest of that deep receiving corpse. This is the most 0:14:45.080 --> 0:14:47.160 excited I've been to watch this group work because you're 0:14:47.240 --> 0:14:49.360 right the Elda Scantling didn't come down with the ball 0:14:49.400 --> 0:14:53.480 on that, but his speed is ridiculous. That was that 0:14:53.600 --> 0:14:56.520 was impressive. That was pure separation while the ball was 0:14:56.560 --> 0:14:58.920 in the air. He just continued to separate from the 0:14:59.000 --> 0:15:02.000 DBS to go and he's done it several times in 0:15:02.080 --> 0:15:04.440 this camp. I think Jamon Moore is a guy that 0:15:04.520 --> 0:15:06.960 has an NFL build. I've been excited to watch him. 0:15:07.000 --> 0:15:09.080 He can hold up. You can see that the way 0:15:09.120 --> 0:15:11.200 he's built is going to be able to translate I 0:15:11.200 --> 0:15:13.720 think in the NFL in terms of a sixteen game season. 0:15:14.160 --> 0:15:17.640 E q st Brown the bloodlines, the pedigree, the work ethic. 0:15:18.080 --> 0:15:20.120 I'm excited to watch this on full because you also 0:15:20.120 --> 0:15:22.600 have Geronimo Allison and Trevor Davis competing for spots too. 0:15:22.680 --> 0:15:24.560 It's gonna be really exciting to see. Yeah, and I 0:15:24.560 --> 0:15:28.040 think Allison is off to a pretty solid like like 0:15:28.080 --> 0:15:31.320 what I've what I've seen there, as you say, very steady. 0:15:31.360 --> 0:15:32.840 One other thing I want to hit on on the 0:15:32.880 --> 0:15:35.920 defensive side here West before we bolt out to practice. 0:15:36.600 --> 0:15:40.560 A guy we didn't see much of last year, Montravius Adams. 0:15:40.560 --> 0:15:43.160 The pads go on for the first time on Saturday, 0:15:43.240 --> 0:15:45.240 and suddenly he kind of jumped out a little bit, 0:15:45.240 --> 0:15:47.640 didn't He did, He really did, and they did one 0:15:47.680 --> 0:15:51.560 on one drills. This he beat three offensive linemen with 0:15:51.600 --> 0:15:53.720 the same swim move technique. And the thing you got 0:15:53.720 --> 0:15:56.000 to keep in mind with one on ones, this is 0:15:56.120 --> 0:15:57.840 your you want to beat your guy, but you're also 0:15:57.880 --> 0:16:01.000 working on things too. In a year ago, that first 0:16:01.040 --> 0:16:03.800 padded practice, Montrevia's Adams wasn't on the field. He broke 0:16:03.840 --> 0:16:06.880 his foot after the second one, didn't practice the rest 0:16:06.920 --> 0:16:09.480 of training camp. So realistically, this is the first time 0:16:09.520 --> 0:16:11.560 I've been able to see him in competitive reps because 0:16:11.560 --> 0:16:12.800 we don't get to see a lot of this stuff 0:16:12.840 --> 0:16:15.680 during the regular season. And I was impressed. Larry mccaron 0:16:15.720 --> 0:16:17.920 mentioned the kid has a really good first step. I 0:16:17.920 --> 0:16:21.400 thought his swin move was nasty, being able to, you know, 0:16:21.480 --> 0:16:24.960 give coporation very quick in the middle of the offensive line, 0:16:25.000 --> 0:16:27.080 and I get it. You talked about it, Larry talked 0:16:27.080 --> 0:16:28.840 about he's going up against guys that are lower on 0:16:28.880 --> 0:16:31.000 the depth chart. You know, it's only one on one. 0:16:31.040 --> 0:16:33.080 There's gonna be more traffic in there in the regular season. 0:16:33.440 --> 0:16:36.840 But I've covered training camp practices for a number of 0:16:36.920 --> 0:16:39.640 years now, and I'll say this, I'd rather see what 0:16:39.720 --> 0:16:43.600 Montrevia's Adams put on film on Saturday then the guys 0:16:43.640 --> 0:16:45.080 that go in there and just gets held up at 0:16:45.120 --> 0:16:46.760 the line of scrimmage. You don't know what you got. 0:16:47.240 --> 0:16:49.640 I thought he flashed him serious potential. It's a deep 0:16:49.720 --> 0:16:51.400 d line room. He's gonna have to work hard to 0:16:51.440 --> 0:16:53.960 get reps in there. But I really liked what I 0:16:54.000 --> 0:16:56.160 saw so far from Montrevia's Adams, given that that was 0:16:56.200 --> 0:16:58.800 our real first taste into the first or the former 0:16:58.840 --> 0:17:01.080 third round pick. Yeah, and or third round pick out 0:17:01.080 --> 0:17:03.320 of Auburn. Definitely showing why he was a top one 0:17:03.680 --> 0:17:07.040 draft pick a year ago. But I made this point 0:17:07.119 --> 0:17:09.560 in our Three Things video, and I'll say this, if 0:17:10.240 --> 0:17:12.680 if fans are going to only go on our website 0:17:12.720 --> 0:17:15.760 for two minutes a day, you have to watch Three Things. 0:17:16.119 --> 0:17:18.520 We want you with us for the minutes what you're 0:17:18.560 --> 0:17:20.960 doing Packers unscripted. Don't get me wrong, but if you 0:17:21.000 --> 0:17:23.680 want a two minute Packer fix every day during training camp, 0:17:23.800 --> 0:17:26.680 just check out Three Things. Larry McCarron is the star 0:17:26.760 --> 0:17:29.160 of the show. We love it. He cracks us up 0:17:29.200 --> 0:17:31.359 and hopefully he cracks you up as well. But I 0:17:31.440 --> 0:17:33.920 made the point in in our Three Things segment that 0:17:34.200 --> 0:17:36.480 with those swim moves you're talking about, Adams was beating 0:17:36.520 --> 0:17:38.800 some guys lower on the depth chart. But what that 0:17:38.880 --> 0:17:42.200 does is that potentially earns him reps in the one 0:17:42.240 --> 0:17:44.760 on ones. Now as camp goes on against the guys 0:17:44.760 --> 0:17:46.720 a little higher on the depth chart, maybe he's gonna 0:17:46.760 --> 0:17:49.959 go against Lane Taylor or Corey Linsley as an inside 0:17:50.000 --> 0:17:52.440 Russia as opposed to those guys further down the depth chart. 0:17:52.440 --> 0:17:54.800 And then that's when you really see what a guy 0:17:54.840 --> 0:17:58.119 like Montravius Adams have has and does he have another 0:17:58.160 --> 0:18:00.959 move because Corey Lindsley is not gonna get Corey Lindsley 0:18:01.040 --> 0:18:03.960 is watching that he sees that swim move. Okay, that's 0:18:03.960 --> 0:18:05.720 what that guy's got. I'm gonna make sure I take 0:18:05.760 --> 0:18:08.199 that away. So then what can Adams do when he 0:18:08.240 --> 0:18:11.040 goes up against a better player to to make an adjustment? 0:18:11.160 --> 0:18:12.840 Those are the kinds of things that are fun to 0:18:12.880 --> 0:18:15.280 watch as training camp goes along. Yeah, and one thing 0:18:15.320 --> 0:18:17.000 to point out to the reason why he was taking 0:18:17.040 --> 0:18:18.320 on a lot of the guys lawering the depth chart. 0:18:18.320 --> 0:18:20.280 You know, Lane Taylor wasn't going through the one on ones. 0:18:20.320 --> 0:18:22.360