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Speaker 1: Yeah. So one of the things, you know, women's athlete
Speaker 1: Britney Grinder, she recently came out and said that it's
Speaker 1: okay for men to participate in women's sports. Now, this
Speaker 1: is something I have no I'm gonna give the disclaimer first,
Speaker 1: because it seems like now the era were living in
Speaker 1: is that if you have an opinion on something, you
Speaker 1: are deemed as all kind of folks. You know what
Speaker 1: I mean, You are deemed as a person that does
Speaker 1: a hater. No. I believe that people should be able
Speaker 1: to do whatever the hell they want to do as
Speaker 1: long as they are not impeding on nobody else's rights
Speaker 1: or principles. Now, these are my thoughts on that, and
Speaker 1: everybody is entireed of their own opinion. If I'm my
Speaker 1: father and i've been, you know, supporting my daughter and
Speaker 1: becoming a basketball player or track athlete, she's participating in
Speaker 1: track or whatever, right you know, against other women, other girls,
Speaker 1: her peers, her people that are in her same genre general.
Speaker 1: So now you get a guy that comes along and
Speaker 1: he decides that, okay, he's gonna switch his sexual identity,
Speaker 1: which is his right. It's his right to do so.
Speaker 1: But now he's impeding on her right to come in
Speaker 1: because he's physically stronger than her. Now you look up
Speaker 1: on the track and she's let's say she run the
Speaker 1: one hundred meters and she's made it all the way
Speaker 1: to the national championships or whatever, to the Olympics. But
Speaker 1: now in the lane too, next tour, it's a lady
Speaker 1: named Paula. But Paula used to really be paul.
Speaker 4: Now, let me ask you a question on the flip
Speaker 4: side of that, playing devil's advocate. Wasn't there a movement
Speaker 4: some years ago called the feminist movement, to where there
Speaker 4: was strong advocation for equality between men and women in
Speaker 4: the workplace in sports and all that, hence even forming
Speaker 4: the WNBA and different things of that nature.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 4: So with that happening, you have a lot of people
Speaker 4: who stand on the other sid out of the coin,
Speaker 4: who say, well, ain't just what they ask for?
Speaker 1: Now, what would you say to that? You know what,
Speaker 1: I see your point with that. But still we talking
Speaker 1: about apples and oranges. No, bro, because Paula used to
Speaker 1: be paul and now you know, if Paula wants to
Speaker 1: be called Paula now instead of paul i'ma call her Paula, right,
Speaker 1: But that don't mean that she's still DNA, wives has
Speaker 1: testosterone flowing through her blood, and she's still physically stronger
Speaker 1: than that girl. So now it is unfair. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: we're talking about track where you know, fortunately, can't nobody
Speaker 1: really get hurt. You know, she gonna get dusted.
Speaker 4: But it's not just track. They just had a controversy
Speaker 4: in swimming. They just had a controversy in mma.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think it's a life period, you know what
Speaker 5: I mean, if you look at it, you know what
Speaker 5: I mean.
Speaker 4: I don't mean to cut you off, bro, you know
Speaker 4: what I mean.
Speaker 5: But if you look at it, and what it sounds
Speaker 5: like to me is people want to be bigger.
Speaker 4: You know. Whatever they section is what you know, it's
Speaker 4: with anything. You know.
Speaker 5: You can play for the Writers, you could play for
Speaker 5: the Rams, you could play for you know. You could
Speaker 5: be from Loan Beach, you could be from South Central,
Speaker 5: you could be from you know, Kmart, you could be
Speaker 5: from Walmart, you know. I mean, people want to be
Speaker 5: bigger than what they are. But it's supposed to be
Speaker 5: the land of equals, you feel me? Yeah, so they
Speaker 5: have equality, you know. I think that they kind of
Speaker 5: pondering and on us too hard because they feeling like
Speaker 5: they bigger than equal.
Speaker 4: Well, I mean, first of all, there could be and
Speaker 4: there can't be no equality without no equity. So that's
Speaker 4: a false premise of this country in the first place.
Speaker 4: Ain't nobody in this country equal? Well we know that,
Speaker 4: we know that.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 4: My personal take on it, my personal take is this
Speaker 4: is an attempt to decimate what we know as a woman.
Speaker 4: It all stems from that. It ain't about the sports,
Speaker 4: you know, It's an overall movement to decimate the woman period.
Speaker 4: Interesting because they do it with everything you think about it. Movies,
Speaker 4: let's go back to the beginning of time. They they
Speaker 4: would have you believe that the first seeing on the
Speaker 4: face of this planet was caused by a woman with
Speaker 4: eve listening to the snake. Okay, since that time period,
Speaker 4: you know, there's always been an attack against the woman.
Speaker 4: In ancient times, in our civilization where we come from
Speaker 4: our ancestors in Africa, throughout Egypt, we put our women
Speaker 4: on a different pedestal, you know, and even throughout other nations.
Speaker 4: You know, once upon a time, you know, they worshiped
Speaker 4: the deity Isis. You know, throughout Europe, Rome, Britain, everybody
Speaker 4: worship Isis. You know what I'm saying. There was that
Speaker 4: time period. Then we went into a period what they
Speaker 4: call them the Dark Ages, where they were just wiping women out,
Speaker 4: calling them witches and all this. Also during the same
Speaker 4: time period, you had the rise of homosexuality between men,
Speaker 4: you know, and it was a lot of these men
Speaker 4: who created situations to where the woman would be on
Speaker 4: the lower level. But back in those days, bo.
Speaker 5: Like, if you think when we were younger, you know
Speaker 5: what I mean, you know, you run into a person
Speaker 5: that's you know, part of that culture, that lifestyle. You
Speaker 5: know what I mean they was kind of you know, hidden,
Speaker 5: It wasn't so out there. It was you know, it's
Speaker 5: like cussing on TV or something, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: Like, it was definitely an underground culture and people kind.
Speaker 5: Of yeah if it was on TV, like you think
Speaker 5: you think of Red Fox where we grew up, it
Speaker 5: was like that. No, you think of sitcoms the stuff
Speaker 5: we grew up to Red Fox and them. He used
Speaker 5: to do this, Oh I think he's thing. I mean
Speaker 5: that was you know, Tinkerbelt, but that was I mean,
Speaker 5: that's what they used to call you during that time period.
Speaker 5: Other and not to sound racist, but other racests and
Speaker 5: other cultures during that time Pio, when we was like
Speaker 5: and we made you know what I'm saying, they.
Speaker 4: Were still fully on. They were still that. I mean,
Speaker 4: this is you gotta go back to Roman times, you
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. Almost all the Roman heroes leaders,
Speaker 4: they were that they were involved in that long style.
Speaker 1: No doubt, no doubt.
Speaker 4: Remember it was nowadays. Yeah, the Roman, the Roman Empire,
Speaker 4: it was they was involving a life. And again I
Speaker 4: have no problem with that. To each what nobody choose
Speaker 4: to do, no doubt.
Speaker 1: You know, what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: But I also just as much as they have the
Speaker 4: right to do what they want to, I have the
Speaker 4: right to dislike what I want to. If I dislike
Speaker 4: salt pepper pork. You know what I'm saying. If I
Speaker 4: dislike something, I have the right to dislike it. We've
Speaker 4: become into a society to where you are judged and
Speaker 4: you are cast into a category because you dislike something
Speaker 4: or you don't agree with something.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 4: But back to the point I was making as far
Speaker 4: as the decimation and what they're doing to women, they
Speaker 4: are overall trying to make the woman and to put
Speaker 4: it in layman terms, they're trying to make the women
Speaker 4: significant more irrelevant than the way they try to even
Speaker 4: in ancient times. That's the point I was leading to.
Speaker 4: So it goes beyond let me finish, It goes beyond
Speaker 4: just sports. If you look at some of these debates,
Speaker 4: in these meetings where you have some of these trans men,
Speaker 4: their main focus is to be considered a woman, that
Speaker 4: they are a woman, you know, regardless if you're not
Speaker 4: biologically born that way. You want to force somebody to
Speaker 4: call you that you know, and you have the right
Speaker 4: to have somebody that just like somebody say I forced
Speaker 4: somebody when I was gangbanging, I forced somebody called me
Speaker 4: a cryp. You're not gonna call me nothing but a quip.
Speaker 4: You're gonna respect that, you know what I'm saying. So
Speaker 4: everybody has the right to claim what they want to
Speaker 4: claim and have somebody respect what they Yeah, but we're
Speaker 4: not out of here promoting if you if you don't
Speaker 4: call me a crypt, it's considered a hate crime, you
Speaker 4: know what I mean? But like how to be bigger
Speaker 4: than everything? Again, it's a it's a hitting agenda. It's
Speaker 4: a hitting agenda. Let's go even deeper. We were talking
Speaker 4: about population control. The only way you keep a population
Speaker 4: going is how between the union of a man and
Speaker 4: a woman. That is the only way throughout thet a
Speaker 4: whole animal kingdom planet except for a few species of
Speaker 4: animals that have I believe it might be bird or
Speaker 4: a fish or something like that, where a male is
Speaker 4: able to produce eggs and do.
Speaker 1: Whatever it does.
Speaker 4: But for the most part, ninety nine percent of nature
Speaker 4: relies on a female and male species to reproduce. You know,
Speaker 4: when we talk about living beings. Okay, now, if you
Speaker 4: have a situation to where the woman is deemed irrelevant
Speaker 4: or irvaluable, you know what I'm saying, or I mispronounced
Speaker 4: that word, But to make them seem just less valuable,
Speaker 4: to make them seem like they're in the category with
Speaker 4: the same men who want to be women or whatnot,
Speaker 4: Then it's not an attack on rights like people think
Speaker 4: it is. The perception. Oh, it's attack on women's rights.
Speaker 4: It's attack on women's sports, it's attack on the woman. No,
Speaker 4: it's an attack on the family. It's an attack on
Speaker 4: knowing that only between a man and a woman's union
Speaker 4: can you reproduce and keep life going on this planet.
Speaker 4: And when you have a set agenda coming all the
Speaker 4: way from the top, and I mean all the way
Speaker 4: from the top, that is into population control, you know,
Speaker 4: where they want to reduce the population, you know, or
Speaker 4: at least stifle it for the time being until they
Speaker 4: can figure out how to move part of it to Mars,
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, or some other planets that
Speaker 4: they're trying to explore. You know what I'm saying, They
Speaker 4: at least want to put it on palls, you know,
Speaker 4: and in a sense, you know, it has gotten out
Speaker 4: of control. Because you know, babies are just being born everywhere.
Speaker 4: Babies are just being born everywhere. Babies is just being born,
Speaker 4: and you don't have enough people taking care of their children.
Speaker 4: At the same time, people are dying and left or
Speaker 4: right too. Believe that the significance of a woman is
Speaker 4: important to not only where we've come, but to where
Speaker 4: we are going. The future of life relies in a woman,
Speaker 4: you know, not only just for child bearing, but for
Speaker 4: balance as well. They were created opposite of men to balance.
Speaker 4: We balance each other out without that balance. If you
Speaker 4: have a bunch of testosterone who claimed testosterone who claiming
Speaker 4: to be men, and testosterone who claiming to be women
Speaker 4: in the same room, how is their balance? There is
Speaker 4: no actual natural balance in that situation.
Speaker 5: Well, I know one thing, you know. I mean these
Speaker 5: men that choose to be you know, in women's sports,
Speaker 5: you know why they just can't have a section for them,
Speaker 5: you know, I mean, that would be mind.
Speaker 4: That, that would be great. I would That's what I
Speaker 4: would post to him. I would post to them, come
Speaker 4: with y'all your own sports league, and what I said
Speaker 4: the same way. Vince McMahon, remember when he came with
Speaker 4: the x FL. You know, what I'm saying, because it
Speaker 4: gets there are enough people in the l g b
Speaker 4: QT community financially well off to where they can do
Speaker 4: something their own league and whatever sports they want to.
Speaker 4: They can start their own Olympics if they want, they
Speaker 4: want to. But you have a situation of men of
Speaker 4: the time who didn't succeed in me in sports over there,
Speaker 4: so they go over there and now they can excel
Speaker 4: and you become like a swimmer, Dude, he was a
Speaker 4: bad swimmer as a man, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: As a in the woman's side. He took all the metal,
Speaker 4: he broke the records, he did all that. Yeah, now
Speaker 4: the time has broke all the records, and swimen broke
Speaker 4: all the records, broke all the records and women's though
Speaker 4: not men's, you know. And see that's that's where the
Speaker 4: unfair part comes in to women also, because.
Speaker 5: That's not cool if they want to be equal, you
Speaker 5: know what I'm saying, and they want to be you know.
Speaker 1: What they call women that resist that. They call them
Speaker 1: trans exclusionary radical feminists. Huh, women that are against men
Speaker 1: coming into their sports, you know, like transsible men coming.
Speaker 1: They short, they have a name for them. They call
Speaker 1: them trans exclusionary radical feminists. So they're saying that they're
Speaker 1: pretty much racist for not wanting people to come in
Speaker 1: you have.
Speaker 4: That's what I'm saying. Okay, So how are they not
Speaker 4: the same type? When you want to exclude people who
Speaker 4: don't view your lifestyle or the way that you live,
Speaker 4: it's the same thing. See, And that's what I always
Speaker 4: put forth to them, Like you being biased towards somebody
Speaker 4: who's biased towards you. It's the exact same fucking thing.
Speaker 4: It's the exact same fucking thing. If somebody don't agree
Speaker 4: with your lifestyle, you have these long names for them,
Speaker 4: and usually these names consist of things negative and derogatory
Speaker 4: to paint a picture of that person who don't agree
Speaker 4: with your lifestyle.
Speaker 1: Think about the name trans exclusionary. You're saying you want
Speaker 1: to exclude us. No, they're not saying they want to
Speaker 1: exclude you. They're saying they want to be fair. Because
Speaker 1: these women in some cases.
Speaker 4: Sayah, and I agree, because as me, could I walk
Speaker 4: on there with my beard and can you walk on
Speaker 4: there with your gray beard or your beard and walk
Speaker 4: into the wiener of women's mma and say I want
Speaker 4: to get down. I want to participate on this side
Speaker 4: right here, not as a trans but as a regular man.
Speaker 1: Walk up in the ring. Hey, hey, look, hey Daniel,
Speaker 1: I want to squab with her. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Set that out.
Speaker 4: They're not They're not gonna let you. They're not gonna
Speaker 4: let you do that. Why because you coming in with
Speaker 4: a man bravado, and it's the same thing as if
Speaker 4: you're coming in in a disguise. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: You're dressing up as juwanna man. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: You come in disguise, under the disguise and premise in
Speaker 4: your mind that you are a woman. But you know,
Speaker 4: you know, in order for you to consciously make the
Speaker 4: decision to change your identity, you have a sense of intelligence.
Speaker 4: And that sense of intelligence also lets you know every
Speaker 4: time you use the bathroom that you are of a
Speaker 4: certain anatomy. That's where it becomes mental.
Speaker 1: You feel what I'm saying. You know again, not brother,
Speaker 1: But let me put this disclaimer. We thoroughly believe that
Speaker 1: every human being on this planet has the right to choice.
Speaker 1: So don't try to twist this up like we're on
Speaker 1: you and hate. We're not. We just viewing facts. And
Speaker 1: I think that was It's a conversation that needs to
Speaker 1: be had because I have a daughter. You have a daughter,
Speaker 1: Chill you you have a daughter, correct daughter, daughters, if
Speaker 1: you've been working with your daughter her whole life to
Speaker 1: achieve a goal, because some of these women, a lot
Speaker 1: of them, great majority of them, they have been working
Speaker 1: their whole life towards this goal. So to have some
Speaker 1: person come in that's physically stronger than them, more dominant,
Speaker 1: more aggressive, come in and just kind of take over,
Speaker 1: it's like, where does it end? Yeah? And where does
Speaker 1: it end?
Speaker 4: And again you even have you even have people that
Speaker 4: are of the trans community who disagree with them participating
Speaker 4: in women's sports. Not all of them feel that that
Speaker 4: should be going on.
Speaker 1: Shout out to the Homy Flame of Row Flame is
Speaker 1: I don't know if you know Flame, he's long beaks. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Flame told me the same thing. These is Flame's words exactly.
Speaker 1: I forget who he was talking about, but he said
Speaker 1: that some not all, of these people have a certain
Speaker 1: agenda because they couldn't make it in the men's sport,
Speaker 1: so they coming over there now to dominate. Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, And it goes his words, not mine. Yeah, and
Speaker 4: again it's not just I saw something. I was watching
Speaker 4: something about a week ago, and there's this controversial guy,
Speaker 4: you know, who speaks a lot at different universities and
Speaker 4: different events against this trans agenda, you know, not the
Speaker 4: trans community, but the trans agenda. Two different things, two
Speaker 4: totally separate different things, you know what I'm saying. And
Speaker 4: there was a woman sitting in the room, There was
Speaker 4: trans women sitting in the room. There were straight men
Speaker 4: sitting in the room, you know, and they were gay
Speaker 4: men as well as lesbian women. This room was a mixed,
Speaker 4: very diverse room of people who were about the lifestyle. Okay,
Speaker 4: And when a trans EMT stood up, okay, and the
Speaker 4: guy put the trans EMT in a hell of a
Speaker 4: bide because the trans EMT kept swearing that he was
Speaker 4: a woman, and that a woman is what a person
Speaker 4: identifies himself as. You know, it's a state of mind,
Speaker 4: it's a state of being, it's a state of the
Speaker 4: way you carry yourself. This is what they want to
Speaker 4: teach you. So he asked him, as an EMT, if
Speaker 4: you had an emergency call nine to one one and
Speaker 4: you responded on your job as an EMT to a
Speaker 4: household where a man was telling you he was having
Speaker 4: labor pains. But you can clearly see his genitals on
Speaker 4: everything that he's a biological man. But he's telling you
Speaker 4: he's having labor pains. Would you check him to see
Speaker 4: if he was pregnant? Of course, no, the fuck you would.
Speaker 1: You wouldn't because this day and time, no, no, no.
Speaker 4: As a medical professional, if you respond to a scene
Speaker 4: and a motherfucker telling you that they having labor pains
Speaker 4: and you checked that motherfucker for being pregnant and all
Speaker 4: that is instead of properly treating that motherfucker, most likely
Speaker 4: just go to be your last day as an m
Speaker 4: and gonna find yourself, especially as he had job type
Speaker 4: for stomach also or something that rupts in his stomach
Speaker 4: that actually killed him, or like food printing or something.
Speaker 4: But he telling you in his mind that he's having
Speaker 4: labor pain, so he decides.
Speaker 5: To chance him to see if he's But if we're
Speaker 5: talking about a person that's you know, cut from that cloth,
Speaker 5: you know what I mean, and he didn't have surgeries
Speaker 5: and all this, so extra shit. Yeah, the first thing
Speaker 5: I'm gonna do is check to see if this.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: See now now that's now the person has surgeries. Now
Speaker 4: getting my point was you come into the room, that
Speaker 4: that person come into the room as an EMT, and
Speaker 4: this nigga nuts is hanging out. You know, damn well,
Speaker 4: this nigga ain't pregnant, what I'm saying, So you're gonna
Speaker 4: do your job exactly. And that's what the EMT was
Speaker 4: stuck on. And you know what I noticed in that crowd.
Speaker 4: I noticed all except the trans I noticed the lesbians,
Speaker 4: I noticed the gay men. I noticed the straight people
Speaker 4: all clapping to the point, you feel what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So there's a.
Speaker 4: Stigma that that whole entire community all views everything the
Speaker 4: same way when they don't. You know, there's a distinction
Speaker 4: even within that community, you know what I'm saying, on
Speaker 4: the way they think. But again, we're talking about something
Speaker 4: that's an agenda. We're talking about something that's a political agenda.
Speaker 4: We're talking about something that is an agenda that has
Speaker 4: something to do not just with those particular individuals. It
Speaker 4: is part of a broad perspective and a broad plan,
Speaker 4: a meticulous plan to halt population growth and decrease population growth.
Speaker 4: The reason being is and if you are a person
Speaker 4: who lives in reality, you kind of slightly might see
Speaker 4: their way. The world is growing human beings. Is the
Speaker 4: planet growing though, no, exactly, that's so that's but that's
Speaker 4: but that's what But that's what they say. They say
Speaker 4: the planet is growing, so we're using up all the
Speaker 4: natural resarons. It's still unscave terran Yeah, but but it's
Speaker 4: all but it's all fake.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's all fake.
Speaker 4: Because but at the same time, you look at Alaska,
Speaker 4: you're looking all of that's just where there's you look
Speaker 4: at driving from goddamn California to Vegas, Nigga. Look how
Speaker 4: much land is just sitting there. That's what I say,
Speaker 4: unscathed territory, you know.
Speaker 5: But just like you see that, it's the population for
Speaker 5: the people, you know, I mean it's it's a lot
Speaker 5: of people, you know, I mean being born every day.
Speaker 5: Also in this day and time, in the last ten
Speaker 5: twenty years, it's been a lot of people dying too.
Speaker 5: And I'm not just talking about from street ship, but
Speaker 5: you know, you got people dying from heart attacks, stroke.
Speaker 4: That's about design, man, it's all. That's that's because because
Speaker 4: as well, because of the Internet and because of YouTube
Speaker 4: and things like that. People are now being made aware
Speaker 4: of stuff that we have been subjected to for many,
Speaker 4: many many years. Prime example, I just learned how cereals
Speaker 4: like fruit loops, applejacks and all that, how they abandoned
Speaker 4: so many countries in Europe for what the ingredients that
Speaker 4: they pertain up on fruit loop me too. Now, just
Speaker 4: imagine I wasn't no poet, and it wasn't no internet.
Speaker 4: Will still be just addicted to fruit loops and fruit
Speaker 4: loops like it's the thing to do, you know. So
Speaker 4: this is why you have a lot of people dying
Speaker 4: because those who did not know consume so much stuff
Speaker 4: that was bad because we wasn't made aware of all
Speaker 4: the pos and stuff and all the chemicals, and people
Speaker 4: didn't really pay attention to what's in the red dye,
Speaker 4: what's in the yellow dye? You know, what is this
Speaker 4: chemical that makes it preserve and be able to sit
Speaker 4: on the shelf for this long? Is definitely and a
Speaker 4: different thing. No, it's not. It's the food. It's it's
Speaker 4: the air, it's the water, it's everything.
Speaker 5: All of that is a part of in my beliefs,
Speaker 5: is all a part of, you know, population control, all of.
Speaker 4: It everybody to read. I want everybody to search out
Speaker 4: a book called Circle of Intrigue. Everybody, Circle of Intrigue.
Speaker 4: I believe you can now find it on Amazon because
Speaker 4: Amazon puts underground books on there. Do you know, But
Speaker 4: once upon a time before Amazon, it was hard as
Speaker 4: hell to find this. You have to go to a
Speaker 4: real underground bookstore, the type of bookstore that be having
Speaker 4: like spell books and wizard books and all that, and
Speaker 4: find this book, Circle of Intrigue. And you read the
Speaker 4: last bookstore they got it down there.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I read this book in nineteen ninety one when I
Speaker 4: was in Pelican Bay.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 4: A brother slid it to me in Pelican Bay, you know,
Speaker 4: And at that time I was super super super turned up,
Speaker 4: you know, super turned up, you know, and there's yeah,
Speaker 4: I remember it's there about you using the bay. I
Speaker 4: was a solid dad.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was. I was. I was.
Speaker 4: I was turned up, you know, and I'm not proud
Speaker 4: of it. But I went in as I went in
Speaker 4: in eighty eight as a juvenile, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: With eighteen months and it ended up leaving out of
Speaker 4: jail system til nineteen ninety three, out of Pelican Bay,
Speaker 4: you feel what I'm saying. I was just in there
Speaker 4: going bananas. But when I got to Pelican Bay, it
Speaker 4: was some real brothers up there doing life. And I
Speaker 4: was youngster, youngster, gonna end up up here with us
Speaker 4: for the rest of your life, young gonna end up
Speaker 4: gear stuck. You need to calm down, bro, Like even
Speaker 4: the police is talking about you. They called they got
Speaker 4: a little nickname for you, call see out of control
Speaker 4: because she was just I was just out of control.
Speaker 4: I didn't give a fuck about going to the whole,
Speaker 4: no nothing. I would type sock the walls. I was
Speaker 4: just I was gone, wow, you know, just wilding. And
Speaker 4: he sent me this book, Circle and Intrigue, Bro, and
Speaker 4: I was I had to read it because I was
Speaker 4: on lockdown. And when I started reading and started learning
Speaker 4: about the true nature of how this country was built,
Speaker 4: the true nature of things going all the way back
Speaker 4: slavery and before slavery, you know, and the mind state
Speaker 4: of people that formed the society that we live in.
Speaker 4: You know, the society that we live in was formed
Speaker 4: by design. You know, way back in the seventeen hundreds.
Speaker 4: They had formed the design for the way twenty twenty
Speaker 4: three years right now to this very fucking day, I believe. Okay,
Speaker 4: I remember reading in nineteen ninety one one about things
Speaker 4: like a pandemic hitting You know what I'm saying, all
Speaker 4: the stuff the nine eleven happening, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 4: all that different stuff read Circle of Intrigue. It would
Speaker 4: have you looking twice at even companies like Levi's. You
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, and how Levi's was built, built
Speaker 4: making the potato sacks for slaves. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 4: And how a lot of these companies was built. But
Speaker 4: the mind state they have, it lets you into the
Speaker 4: mind state of you know, these people are claimed to
Speaker 4: be a type of spiritual people. They have their own religion,
Speaker 4: which is called the Mystery religion. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: They worship Gaya, you know what I'm saying, which is
Speaker 4: an earth god.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: They got everybody else calling Mother Nature. So just know
Speaker 4: when you're using the term mother Nature, using the term
Speaker 4: of a false deity, that these the greats that people
Speaker 4: think is I'm talking about beyond a jay Z, beyond
Speaker 4: an open wink. I'm talking about the real You know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying the realty. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: They had they Yeah, they have it. They have they
Speaker 4: have a design, and they worship Guy. This is why
Speaker 4: you have Earth Day. This is why you have things
Speaker 4: like groundhogs. They believe that the earth and the animals
Speaker 4: that preoccupy this earth are more important than the human
Speaker 4: beings that live on this earth.
Speaker 1: Part of that group who the pe the people, the
Speaker 1: people that go around throwing pain some people's.
Speaker 4: Fers, that's all, that's all part of it. Any organization
Speaker 4: that you see that's for Earth preservation is really part
Speaker 4: of that group. I didn't care who the fuck it is.
Speaker 4: From Greenpeace on down. They part of that ship, and
Speaker 4: they worship. They worship the Earth, and they believe that
Speaker 4: if all human beings were extinct, another species or type
Speaker 4: of human being would come about, because they actually believe
Speaker 4: that the Earth deuced us in the first place, according
Speaker 4: to their science. You know, they don't have a belief
Speaker 4: in the Almighty Creator, even though they actually do. But
Speaker 4: they know they know things that most humans don't know,
Speaker 4: like how actual human beings got here? Who actually created
Speaker 4: human beings? You know what I'm saying, The act, how
Speaker 4: the Bible was actually formed and created all these different
Speaker 4: things that were created by design to shape society, right,
Speaker 4: you know, And their agenda again is to preserve this planet,
Speaker 4: even if it means killing off the majority of everybody
Speaker 4: on here. Because if you think about it, when you
Speaker 4: read that book, you're gonna be surprised that the number
Speaker 4: that they trying to reach, they trying to reach a
Speaker 4: number of five hundred million people. Do you know how
Speaker 4: many people on the face of this planet. There's a
Speaker 4: whole lot of people, and they trying to get down
Speaker 4: to five hundred million. Do you know how many billions
Speaker 4: of people that they have an agenda to wipe the
Speaker 4: fuck out and start They already started it started. It's
Speaker 4: starting now women's sports, it's starting now LGBQT community. Because again,
Speaker 4: nothing against nobody's lifestyle. But I always pose this question scientifically,
Speaker 4: if we all, as far as all human beings, just
Speaker 4: decided to go over to that lifestyle, where would human
Speaker 4: beings be in one hundred years extinct?
Speaker 1: Exactly?
Speaker 4: So there's no way that that is supposed to be
Speaker 4: the norm of that lifestyle. Plush that as the norm.
Speaker 4: Then you have.
Speaker 5: What what the Bible says, not of the norm and
Speaker 5: Romans chapter one through sixteen.
Speaker 4: That's what it's talking about.
Speaker 1: Man, let me show up in the questions, right And
Speaker 1: this has been very noticeable. You know, Elon Musk, he's
Speaker 1: let it be known that he's trying to explore space
Speaker 1: and look for, you know, different places they could possibly
Speaker 1: host the human race in the future in case something
Speaker 1: happened to this planet. I think the planet is in
Speaker 1: a lot of trouble right now and they're not telling
Speaker 1: us because it will be wide speare padic, you have
Speaker 1: you know, climbate disruption, you know, the pollution wayte We've
Speaker 1: just like, really, human beings are like the heart. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm hit the heart. Heart now you think about this, right,
Speaker 1: think about human beings. We are the most destructive creatures
Speaker 1: on the planet, dude, the most destructive. You know, dumping
Speaker 1: shit in the ocean, dumping shit in the ocean, putting
Speaker 1: all these chemicals in the air, the stuff we eat
Speaker 1: in the water, or this country. You know, you can't
Speaker 1: walk downtown in La without walking over somebody. But we
Speaker 1: spend billions of not trillions of dollars on on our military.
Speaker 1: You know, the whole thing is just really misguided right now.
Speaker 1: So I can see them trying to wipe some of
Speaker 1: the undesirables off the planet.
Speaker 4: I don't I don't have a problem being an American.
Speaker 4: I don't have a problem with them spending money on
Speaker 4: the military. But you have to though, but still, we
Speaker 4: have to have a balance. No, it has to be
Speaker 4: a balance. But trust and believe, if it was not
Speaker 4: for our military might. Okay, if it was not for
Speaker 4: our military might, black people would be in a way
Speaker 4: worse position. Okay, just know that. Just know that I
Speaker 4: s I say that because the military was so instrumental
Speaker 4: in knocking down the stereo typical thoughts of a white
Speaker 4: man towards a black man. It was significant. Okay. You
Speaker 4: when you go back and you look at the let's
Speaker 4: go back before the Tuskegee Airmen, you know, you had
Speaker 4: many men of color.
Speaker 1: Who were leaders.
Speaker 4: On the battlefield before there was machine guns. You had
Speaker 4: war strategies that were learned from the black mind. You
Speaker 4: feel what I'm saying. And only through no listen to me,
Speaker 4: only through that did you have Now, you did have
Speaker 4: that time period where you had you know, everybody being
Speaker 4: shipped off the Vietnam and all this. But I'm talking
Speaker 4: about a time period before that. You feel what I'm saying,
Speaker 4: the greatest military ever in the history is this military here?
Speaker 4: But again, sure, who's the lowest on the who's the
Speaker 4: lowest on the totem pole around the world.
Speaker 1: I want you to understand my point though, Boy, I
Speaker 1: wasn't talking against our military. I was just making the
Speaker 1: point my dad served.
Speaker 4: It none so so did my step my stepdad, my brother.
Speaker 4: I come from marine, a Marine Corps family. I chose
Speaker 4: to go to the yang Bang route, but my step pops,
Speaker 4: my step pops actually served in the Air Force, the Army,
Speaker 4: and the Marine. Doug feel I'm saying he only didn't
Speaker 4: go to the Navy, and I please don't take this
Speaker 4: the wrong way, but he said even back then that
Speaker 4: the Navy was too they had too many they had
Speaker 4: too many of it, they had too many people. And
Speaker 4: that's what used to always say. He was like, it
Speaker 4: was too much of this going on in the Navy.
Speaker 4: So he didn't he didn't do that. Yeah, he didn't
Speaker 4: do that in the Navy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know not, because I won't see the conversation
Speaker 1: for the show would always go laying on or bro.
Speaker 1: We have to have the military necessity if we didn't,
Speaker 1: everybody in the world will try to have their way
Speaker 1: with us. I'm talking about, we would be getting sold off.
Speaker 1: We would have went from if it wasn't for the military, Bro,
Speaker 1: we would have went from slavery in the United States
Speaker 1: to be slavery in China. Bro.
Speaker 4: The motherfucking white folks in the motherfucking America. Once we
Speaker 4: built this motherfucker, they would have sold all of our
Speaker 4: black ass to the next motherfucking nation. That's what the
Speaker 4: fuck the plan was. They was gonna sling us around
Speaker 4: the fucking world. We would still be getting slung around
Speaker 4: the world right now as whores for every other fucking race.
Speaker 4: Black people would be spread around this world as slaves
Speaker 4: if it wasn't for the fucking military, Bro, if it
Speaker 4: was not for the military and the motherfuckers. If you
Speaker 4: don't believe me, look what happened to fucking wasn't name
Speaker 4: over in a Libya. Look what happened in Libya. As
Speaker 4: soon as motherfucking Kuldaffi died. What happened They start kidnapping
Speaker 4: all the motherfucking Libyans and putting them into slavery. Motherfucking Indians. No, Look,
Speaker 4: the Indians went over there. The fucking Chinese went over there,
Speaker 4: and the motherfucking Iranians went over there and was kidnapping.
Speaker 4: They kidnapped over what two hundred thousand Libyans and put
Speaker 4: them into slavery, like real slavery. They put them in
Speaker 4: the actual slavery like back in the day, chains and
Speaker 4: all that.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: Because the United States had disrupted their thing and they
Speaker 4: didn't really have no leader, so they was able to
Speaker 4: go over there and just picked them off as slaves.
Speaker 4: So if we didn't have that military might of motherfuckers
Speaker 4: being scared, they would have been comes not to start
Speaker 4: black ass over here. Oh well, we need them motherfuckers
Speaker 4: over here to build up our country like they built
Speaker 4: up your country.
Speaker 1: Let me ask you this, bro, and I gotta wait
Speaker 1: to come up this nigga, he was the bathroom or
Speaker 1: anybody on't ever seen in my life?
Speaker 4: Man, Nah, I be I be like really really really
Speaker 4: really not pro military.
Speaker 1: Oh no, I'm.
Speaker 4: Pro. I'm pro filling safe.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, you know what, doing the military, especially in
Speaker 1: our community, has been a good thing. And I always
Speaker 1: tell kids, if you ain't got shit else to do
Speaker 1: instead of sitting around this motherfucker gang banging and doing
Speaker 1: it with the fuck go to the military for a
Speaker 1: few years.
Speaker 4: Nah, But you know what, my homage really to the
Speaker 4: military go deeper than that. If there was no military
Speaker 4: and we didn't have the military, there would be no
Speaker 4: fucking g funk. Swear to God, there would be no
Speaker 4: fucking g funk. Now everybody loved, There would be no
Speaker 4: g funk. There would be no Long Beach music era
Speaker 4: without fucking the Navy, because everybody from Snoop Dogg Mama
Speaker 4: and them down the Big Sea Style Daddy all came
Speaker 4: into Loan Beach through the fucking military Alabama, Mississippi. That's
Speaker 4: how everybody ended up in Loan Beach. That's how fucking
Speaker 4: Nate Dog ended up in fucking Loan Beach through the
Speaker 4: fucking goddamn military. Motherfucking the military is what who brought
Speaker 4: the majority of people that live in Loan Beach to
Speaker 4: Long Beach. I know this for a fact because I'm
Speaker 4: one of the only few motherfuckers that's that's in the
Speaker 4: music business from Lone Bee that was actually born in
Speaker 4: Saint Mary's Hospital. I was born in Saint Mary's, so
Speaker 4: I watched I watched everybody Over the last fifty years
Speaker 4: of my life, I watched all who came from theb
Speaker 4: dog wib dogs dog g for me, insane pop dog.
Speaker 4: Ain't even from motherfucking Long Beach. That's what you came.
Speaker 1: I remember when you moved from Carson.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's predominantly the coast though, you know what I'm
Speaker 5: all the niggas ain't from where they.
Speaker 4: Supposed to, you know, no, but I was Long Beach,
Speaker 4: long just wanting breaded in Compton, Loans in particular. That
Speaker 4: melting pot of people coming from those different places is
Speaker 4: what created our sound. That's what created us. Yeah, you see,
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. You know us who we
Speaker 4: are as far as our particular sound of g funk
Speaker 4: with the mixture of the gospel. See, you gotta think.
Speaker 4: Let me say this. You know what I mean.
Speaker 5: I went to I went to school in Loan Beach.
Speaker 5: Moms like, you ain't learning shit in Compton. You finish,
Speaker 5: take your ass to Grant and Loan Beach. Member, stop
Speaker 5: the hell, nigga. I went from Compton to Loan Beach
Speaker 5: and moms come pick She worked that Loan Beach memorial
Speaker 5: and then she come picked me up at my grandma
Speaker 5: house next to snooping them on sixty first in London,
Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying, and on the north and
Speaker 5: then take my black ass right back to Compton. You
Speaker 5: know what I mean. Every day, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: But when it was time to jump off the porch me,
Speaker 5: I was in the hood.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. But you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: But I say that to say.
Speaker 5: That I know these guys like I know your city,
Speaker 5: you know what I mean, Like I got family from
Speaker 5: your city, like you know, my uncles and them, they
Speaker 5: went to Jordan. They off you know, north side Long
Speaker 5: Beach catch but my family before that, they off from Mephis, Tennessee. Predominantly,
Speaker 5: all of us got family members that come from the South,
Speaker 5: from the mid from East. You know what I'm saying. Whatever,
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying. But let me say this.
Speaker 5: Me and Dog and Warren went and Ate went to
Speaker 5: school together. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: What school y'all went to together, Hamilton and then Jordans.
Speaker 5: He went to Hamilton, Yeah, Hamilton, Yeah, nigga. A went
Speaker 5: to Hamilton with me, you know what I mean. And
Speaker 5: we used to.
Speaker 4: Battle Domino go to Hamilton too. No, it was me
Speaker 4: a A Will Warren g and I think no Snoop
Speaker 4: with the Linn Burgh and he used to come up
Speaker 4: to a Hamilton to get ged up and battle me
Speaker 4: and eight right hand the guy left fan of Jesus.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Hold on, you're breaking some shit on there. So so
Speaker 1: when you and eight was in elementary school, junior high,
Speaker 1: junior high, y'all was battling Snoop Dogg and.
Speaker 4: Man check the internet. Snoop was just talking about it.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean.
Speaker 4: I used to battle they was Compton's most wanner.
Speaker 5: We used to battle. They from Compton, We from Long Beach.
Speaker 5: Compton and Long Beach didn't rock like that, you know
Speaker 5: what I'm saying. But through this rap shit, you know,
Speaker 5: we rocked like that.
Speaker 1: Real was.
Speaker 4: But you know, niggas in the streets was getting into it,
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Snoop says could freak style like a motherfucker.
Speaker 5: He used to do it back then. He used to
Speaker 5: do it back then. And Trayvon Lane, Trayvon Lane, he
Speaker 5: went to school with.
Speaker 1: Us too, So Trayvon Lane was a rapper too. Nope.
Speaker 4: He was a hustler, you know what I'm saying, A
Speaker 4: young hustler.
Speaker 1: Back.
Speaker 5: I'm talking about seventh. Let me just say this, seventh,
Speaker 5: eighth and ninth. This was when Junior High School was
Speaker 5: seventh eighth to ninth me eight at will Kill that
Speaker 5: will rest in peace, Warren Rayvon Lane. Snoopy used to
Speaker 5: come up there with d Box Jack Queish. He don't
Speaker 5: call himself joc Quish no more. He does security for Snoop.
Speaker 5: He's a Muslim brother, you know what I'm saying. But
Speaker 5: I forget what he called himself, but that's Jock Queis.
Speaker 5: We used to battle beat boxing. This is and I
Speaker 5: say this because I say it all formed our sound,
Speaker 5: because we product of the Dougie Freshes and you know,
Speaker 5: the Roger Troutman's in the in the you know it
Speaker 5: was a Gumbo, the rock Kims, the Krs.
Speaker 4: One fact, you know what I'm saying, Oh, wouldn't have
Speaker 4: landed where majority people wouldn't have landed in that particular
Speaker 4: region of Long Beach and Compton had it not been
Speaker 4: for coming through that military, whether it was the military
Speaker 4: or from the south somewhere. Oh yeah, they migrated migrated
Speaker 4: from the South. But that's why I give again, that's
Speaker 4: why I get a prop to the military because a
Speaker 4: lot of the way when we was growing up, the
Speaker 4: Navy housing and all that stuff, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 4: the stuff that used to go on there, and again
Speaker 4: the migration of who it brought to Long Beach.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you feel what I'm saying. I see, I know
Speaker 5: Long Beach before dogging them. I know ch Error, I
Speaker 5: know radio and and and that's.
Speaker 4: What created the the g Funks sound man.
Speaker 1: See. I know radio.
Speaker 5: And what's my boy name, dm DM. This is my
Speaker 5: nigga to h d MG not DMG.
Speaker 4: He Compton. I used to be with Daddy V Radio,
Speaker 4: not radio. That was my guy. You know what I'm saying. Yeah,
Speaker 4: it was the first radio was the first one actually.
Speaker 5: From the beach getting it in am I correct? And
Speaker 5: then Domino, Yeah, because Domino used to be with my
Speaker 5: bro Rhythm Stroke.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Domino he went. I don't know how he ended
Speaker 4: up on the Buzz and dreb Gone and all them cats. Yeah,
Speaker 4: but he ended up. He ended up on on there
Speaker 4: and then went from there to to I believe fucking
Speaker 4: with a Yeah.
Speaker 5: I think that through battle Cat. Yeah, Greedy Gray from
Speaker 5: l A seventy six in Shaw you know what I mean?
Speaker 5: From l A Yeah, seventy he's still there seventy six
Speaker 5: with some coment. No, no, he's the rock with quick
Speaker 5: But he put out Mocha Stuff, he put out BG
Speaker 5: knock on dryste he put out Domino, He put out Domino.
Speaker 4: He put out a few groups. You I mean the AMG.
Speaker 5: I mean he was behind uh death Jam uh uh
Speaker 5: Greedy Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: He had wrestling Russell and Russell and uh Russell and Puffy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he did it.
Speaker 4: They did him du lo because MOK and Stuff had
Speaker 4: the single I'm Going Down, which was harder than Mary J. Bliges.
Speaker 4: It was eating Mary J. Bliges and Puffy and them
Speaker 4: got wind of it, you know what I'm saying, And
Speaker 4: they was really trying to push Mary. So in exchange
Speaker 4: for them squashing that single, which was supposed to be
Speaker 4: greedy Greg singer that was gonna help keep pushing his label,
Speaker 4: they get they did the Mary J. Blige method. Man,
Speaker 4: you're all I need combination, Puffy let Mary sing on
Speaker 4: the hook and all that, And in exchange for that,
Speaker 4: they squashed smoking Steph career. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 4: Greedy Greg and them had a problem with that ship
Speaker 4: next thing. You know that whole situation.
Speaker 5: Greedy Greg had I deal with them and yeah, Outburst
Speaker 5: Records back then.
Speaker 4: Yeah that was that was yeah, and they messed over,
Speaker 4: they messed up. That's what ended up happening to YMV man. Yeah,
Speaker 4: they got they got squashed on purpose. So Mary J.
Speaker 4: Blige could could could futch that single that I'm going
Speaker 4: down single, That's why I'm saying it and blow up
Speaker 4: the worst Wow.
Speaker 1: Wow. You know what, while we on this whole deaf
Speaker 1: jam thing music thing, I wanted to kind of stay
Speaker 1: in music because you are one of the dopest singers
Speaker 1: from Long Beach. I don't think a lot of people know.
Speaker 4: That boy got that soul that you got all the
Speaker 4: soul in your stuff, you stoop.
Speaker 1: I forget the name of the song that you had
Speaker 1: with Snoop rapping on there, but that's one of the
Speaker 1: most beautiful fucking records I've heard on Fire on Fire. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's it's dope, man, It's amazing. How did you Because
Speaker 1: I know all y'all grew up, You and Warren grew
Speaker 1: up together, right, everybody grew up together through six degrees
Speaker 1: of separation.
Speaker 4: Okay, we all grew up together, but not together. You
Speaker 4: feel what I'm saying. You know how it is when
Speaker 4: you're growing up. You know him, you know him your
Speaker 4: but that's not your friend. That's not who you hang
Speaker 4: out with, That's not your buddy.
Speaker 1: Buddies.
Speaker 4: You feel what I'm saying. So you know, warn everybody.
Speaker 4: We was all on the Pop Warner football you know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying. Like I said, I was playing for
Speaker 4: the Eagles and whatnot. We all was around during school time.
Speaker 4: But actually my buddy was half dead. You know what
Speaker 4: I'm saying. Me and half dead. We walked you know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying. That was who I walked back and
Speaker 4: forth to school with. You know, Elements used to be
Speaker 4: on sixty first and lending as well with dog. You
Speaker 4: know what I mean, right next time actuality actuality. During
Speaker 4: that time period, I came over there because Big Sea
Speaker 4: Style lived over there, not because a dog. Now you
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. I was up under Big Sea
Speaker 4: Style wing. I ran away from home. I ran from
Speaker 4: home when I was you know what I'm saying. When
Speaker 4: I was young, I ran with from home. You know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying and what not. And big Sea Style
Speaker 4: kind of put me up under the wing, you know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying, because I was just I was just
Speaker 4: wild in the streets, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So Sea Style is the one.
Speaker 4: Who stayed over there on the north Yeah, that was
Speaker 4: that was That was him that when DOGG was on
Speaker 4: sixty first and they used to come through that backyard
Speaker 4: over the gate. Yea Sea Style house. Who the backyard
Speaker 4: they was coming up out of us?
Speaker 5: So me and eight we my grandmother. She stayed right
Speaker 5: there on Lyndon and Smith. Yeah, next street is sixty first.
Speaker 5: Ye you know them apartments that that corner house another
Speaker 5: house and then the apartments right there. That's where Snoopy
Speaker 5: HD little half did and you know, and you know
Speaker 5: of course GW used to be over there too, you
Speaker 5: know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: That's where that's where actually Style met dog He was
Speaker 4: actually there. He was finished actually shoot Snoop over there, yep.
Speaker 4: Snoop was coming through his backyard, had hopped the gate
Speaker 4: and was going over there where y'all was at. Style
Speaker 4: didn't know who was coming through his fucking backyard. Just
Speaker 4: heard somebody coming through the backyard and grabbed the burner
Speaker 4: when it was jump off, and look it was like
Speaker 4: it's me big homie now when it was jump off
Speaker 4: the porch.
Speaker 5: Time mean when we chose up on these streets, you
Speaker 5: know what I mean, these two were probably like four
Speaker 5: or five chicks you know that went to our church,
Speaker 5: Me and eight's church, you know what i mean, Greater
Speaker 5: Union Missionary Baptist Church.
Speaker 4: Yeah, man, we was in the choir. We did the
Speaker 4: deckey thing all that man, Baptist Church. You know what
Speaker 4: I'm saying that that's where that's where I got my
Speaker 4: start at.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm saying us at church christ Dyeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 5: So the church chicks stayed next to the on the
Speaker 5: other side of the apartments.
Speaker 4: So now we're off the porch. We got records out.
Speaker 5: It's a compter things straight checking and growing up in
Speaker 5: the hood, all that good stuff. Right now, we got cars,
Speaker 5: I mean eight and this is a zukie cheap he driving.
Speaker 5: I ain't got my license, so I'm shotgun, you know
Speaker 5: what I mean. And we go over there and hang
Speaker 5: with the chicks. HD and Snoopy used to be in
Speaker 5: the alley behind their house and we battling some more,
Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying. Then unknown cat that we
Speaker 5: me and eight was dealing with back then, he was
Speaker 5: hooking up with sugaring them and Dre and them when
Speaker 5: they left, you know, and doing ay thing or whatever,
Speaker 5: you know what I mean. And then this is when
Speaker 5: Snoopy and Warren got cracking off into the death Road thing.
Speaker 5: Me and Ate was supposed to be over there. We
Speaker 5: actually sat at the table and was you know, designed
Speaker 5: the name.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I wasn't around doing that time.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you was gone. You was in the bean, you
Speaker 5: know what I'm saying. But then right after that I
Speaker 5: left the same night we did the duck sick. I
Speaker 5: got gaffled, you know what i mean.
Speaker 4: See, I didn't even doing that time period. I really
Speaker 4: didn't even know Dog as far as you know, hanging
Speaker 4: out with him, you know what I'm saying. To school
Speaker 4: and C Night was part of my crew, right, you
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. Even back then, growing up, I
Speaker 4: seen the story he wanted to be from the Dove
Speaker 4: Shock That's that's for real. Who Snoopy I used to
Speaker 4: be used to want to be from the dove Shack.
Speaker 4: Most likely I'm not sure, but him, Scoop and Night
Speaker 4: was super tight. You know you know too. Scoop is
Speaker 4: the one who introduced Snoop and Chante.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know two schools stayed right here. Then it
Speaker 4: was like what two houses then Chante's stay Ready. They
Speaker 4: grew up on the same block with each other. Wow,
Speaker 4: but yeah, that's how they met through too school. You
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. So they was they was super tight,
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. And I was tight with them,
Speaker 4: but and I was part of a different I'm I'm
Speaker 4: dying block. You know what I'm saying. I'm tenth Street.
Speaker 4: You feel what I'm saying. Like I said, we ended
Speaker 4: up going from Antioch, you know what I'm saying, Church
Speaker 4: of Christ on Myrtle and from what we used to
Speaker 4: be on Mosic. From me from Church, that was my
Speaker 4: out into the street. That's when from the who Mosey
Speaker 4: and Quila No, I knew mos Mosey was from Antioch.
Speaker 4: You're talking about the producer Mosic. Yeah, and it's I
Speaker 4: knew now Mosey was from from Antioch. They was off
Speaker 4: for Gundry, you know what I'm saying. Mosey used to
Speaker 4: play the drums, mozaid, let me tell you something. What's crazy?
Speaker 4: They start off New Hope, me the twins, you know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying. Butch Cassidy, you said as as as
Speaker 4: as baby babies, that's when we start off. Then we
Speaker 4: went to Antioch. It was me, Mosey and Letho.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, I want to kind of stay on that
Speaker 1: little train man, because I got something I'm laying on. Right.
Speaker 1: So Warren starts doing his motherfucking thing. Warren. You know
Speaker 1: when Warren is probably the most uncredited in the world.
Speaker 1: Dog always talked to him. Was Warren on you know one?
Speaker 1: But yeah, it's cool. Yeah, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: You know, Warren real laid back in reserve. But I
Speaker 1: used to see Warren always up at the field with Underground,
Speaker 1: the North Long Beach, you know, the record store. He'd
Speaker 1: be in there buying a gang of records though all
Speaker 1: the time, what's up stell And he'd be getting this
Speaker 1: record is and smashing dog. Next thing, you know, they
Speaker 1: come out with the chronic and all that. Right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: And it seemed like, you know, I thought deff Roe
Speaker 1: would have snatched them up for sure.
Speaker 4: Who Warren from my under from my understanding, there was
Speaker 4: some conflict. There was some conflict with even back then
Speaker 4: with with Sugar and Warren.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: It was also because you know, Beefy was supposed to
Speaker 4: be over there too, Beef if he was Beefy was
Speaker 4: signing to Harry O and Dana Dane was signed Harry
Speaker 4: Dane and Beef was supposed to be on death roll.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: Yeah, they were signing the Godfather Entertainment when her and
Speaker 4: Shug you know, you know, but uh, from my understanding,
Speaker 4: there was there was, you know, some some situation over
Speaker 4: there to where you know, Warren g felt the need
Speaker 4: to go do his own thing, which was probably the
Speaker 4: smartest move.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, he won definitely.
Speaker 5: You know, It's crazy because when we were in school,
Speaker 5: Warren wasn't no rapper at all.
Speaker 4: Warren wasn't a rapper even when we was doing regulate.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, Warren, You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 4: Warren is a producer. Warren is a DJ. He a
Speaker 4: beat maker. Now see, I remember I used to have
Speaker 4: as a beat maker and as a producer. You know,
Speaker 4: it's not so far fetched to be able to rap.
Speaker 4: I used to have a little drum machine with the
Speaker 4: full pass on the steel. You hit it with the
Speaker 4: stick and they play these Yeah so gat up. Sister
Speaker 4: stayed across the street from these apartments. I used to
Speaker 4: be at.
Speaker 5: Matter of fact, me and eight have two little girlfriends
Speaker 5: and we used to be at their house.
Speaker 4: They Mama house. Let us kick it, let us drink,
Speaker 4: smoke weed, do whatever we want to do as kids.
Speaker 4: And Warren used to be across the street. He'll come
Speaker 4: across the street to come, you know, beat on my
Speaker 4: drum machine, like were your drummer, Jeene shill.
Speaker 5: I'm like here, go ahead, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 5: And he getting it in. Then I was like, okay,
Speaker 5: maybe he's a producer. Maybe he's a beat maker.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, because I was a beat
Speaker 4: box me d box jack queeze.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 5: Niggas was coming all the way from La trying to
Speaker 5: get us like whoever getting down you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: I was getting down in the beach, you know what
Speaker 5: I'm saying. From Compton, You know what I'm saying. And
Speaker 5: we come to see Vernon, like pull up, you know
Speaker 5: what I'm saying, Boom, I got to get at I
Speaker 5: got to go to the East Side. I got to
Speaker 5: go see Beefy Lowe. You know what I'm saying. All that,
Speaker 5: You know what I mean. So I'm part of that cloth.
Speaker 4: I was there. I remember when you know, it was
Speaker 4: the rt D before the Long Beach transit.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean.
Speaker 4: You know what I mean. So you feel me. You
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: The rough, tough and dangerous. I used to catch it
Speaker 5: from Compton and Atlantic all the way downtown, you know
Speaker 5: what I'm saying. And I went to continuation school on
Speaker 5: the East Side.
Speaker 4: I went to Read. Yeah, that's where I went to
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. And that's why that's why
Speaker 4: I was telling you. I didn't have that connection with
Speaker 4: dog and warn them during that time here because I
Speaker 4: was at Reed, right, I'm saying, go to Polly. You
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. So I missed that whole time here.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. I got out of Juvenile
Speaker 4: Hall and they sent me to the little continuation school
Speaker 4: that was across the street from Read at first, and
Speaker 4: when I got old enough then I went over to Read.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: Right, Yeah, I was at read. I was I was,
Speaker 4: I was.
Speaker 1: A fuck up. So you always one of the initial
Speaker 1: groups because Warren kicked his label off, right, No, Warren
Speaker 1: kicked this label off. What's y'all one of the first
Speaker 1: groups he signed? No, no, what do you mean? We
Speaker 1: never signed a war now, y'all was never a Warren's label.
Speaker 1: So he just produced you all album for Dick Jam.
Speaker 4: You need do some album, y'all was your own entity.
Speaker 4: That was just the honmy.
Speaker 1: So y'allways never signed a war that's the biggest misconsists.
Speaker 4: I thought all these I think it's I think it's
Speaker 4: misconstrued for the simple fact. Let me get my terminology
Speaker 4: and tell me if I'm right or even loopl I
Speaker 4: think it's the G funk uh and that G y'all
Speaker 4: mean that Warren made so famous with regular album, you
Speaker 4: know what I mean? And then y'all come and it's
Speaker 4: that gift print. His imprint wasn't a full go by
Speaker 4: the time we signed. You feel what I'm saying. It wasn't.
Speaker 4: It wasn't fully developed in a full go, right, or
Speaker 4: else Warren g would have came out of his own label.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. He came out. He came out.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. He was first up under
Speaker 4: Paul Stewart, you know what I'm saying. And that's who
Speaker 4: we were up under. Y'all was signed straight def Jam. Now, no,
Speaker 4: at first we were signing the P and P def Jam.
Speaker 4: That's what made Warren G and Paul Stewart fall out,
Speaker 4: cause Warren G felt that Paul Stewart went behind his
Speaker 4: back and signed us. Wow, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 4: which which might be been the case, but I don't
Speaker 4: look at it that way. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: We were We were like really on the outskirts, you
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. As far as the Dove Shack,
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. We was active. We was active.
Speaker 4: We wasn't on no music shit. He was you know,
Speaker 4: he was block boying the streets and super super active.
Speaker 4: We was known for throwing parties on the west side
Speaker 4: of the Shack. That's what the Dove Shack was known for.
Speaker 4: We wasn't known as we know what I'm saying, right
Speaker 4: west side o Delta. You know what I'm saying. We
Speaker 4: knew how to rap and what not. We participating in battles.
Speaker 4: Our crew, big nuts crew, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: But our focus was gangbanging, you feel what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: And so during that time period when the whole thing
Speaker 4: was was was being developed, warned the Twins and the
Speaker 4: five footers they had they then going the way. They
Speaker 4: was all over at Keith Clark in b Tip House
Speaker 4: all the time, right off of twentieth and King. That's
Speaker 4: where majority of that was going down at. You know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying. We was on the west side tenth Street, Chestnut.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. It was not so we
Speaker 4: wasn't part of that as as far as the early
Speaker 4: sound that they was developing. So when Warren got on
Speaker 4: and he made his move and he started getting shows
Speaker 4: and whatnot, he was taking the five footers and the twins.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, He wasn't really taking the
Speaker 4: death shock because we wasn't trying to pursue no shit,
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: We actually really wasn't.
Speaker 4: You know who really convinced us to start really trying
Speaker 4: to pursue music. Seriously, Beefy, you know, Beefy was coming over.
Speaker 4: The Beefy had come over by wee from it and
Speaker 4: Warren was coming over. The boom was on the west
Speaker 4: side and whatnot. You know what I'm saying. Warren was
Speaker 4: coming over and he had just got the Caprice and whatnot.
Speaker 4: Beefy had just got a Blazer. He had just got
Speaker 4: a Chevy Blaze like Chevy I'm saying. But we were
Speaker 4: still active. We was active, you know. You know, the
Speaker 4: whole little war thing was going on at that time,
Speaker 4: So we was over in that field right there. So
Speaker 4: when Warren was moving around making money, Butdweiser, Superfestal, he
Speaker 4: was taking them, we were still on the block and
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, on the turfs chopping. So
Speaker 4: when the opportunity came one, you know, got his situation
Speaker 4: and whatnot. With that, there was a lookout for his
Speaker 4: immediate right. You know what I'm saying. He was telling us,
Speaker 4: I want to fuck with y'all cult, but y'all need
Speaker 4: to slow down.
Speaker 1: Cut. I remember him coming over to the Shock like.
Speaker 4: Cut, I keep you about y'all, could cut y'all did chill?
Speaker 4: Could just focused on rap, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: And at that time, we had ended up doing something
Speaker 4: that had Our name wasn't like all these niggas over there.
Speaker 1: First degree.
Speaker 5: That's what my nigga name is. First degree. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 5: his parents is uh they are deaf. Yeah, first degree. Yeah,
Speaker 5: I to be.
Speaker 4: That's what taught me how to work at SB twelve
Speaker 4: hundred on the East Side. Yep, they had their thing.
Speaker 4: Paul called us one day one g nim on the road.
Speaker 1: Know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: Uh, I forgot where it was. I don't know if
Speaker 4: he was in New York or whatnot, But I remember
Speaker 4: I was on Earl Street, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: I remember I was on Earl right off the twentieth
Speaker 4: and got the call. Paul Stewart was like, asked us
Speaker 4: what you know what we was doing? You know, like
Speaker 4: what y'all doing? And we was we at the time,
Speaker 4: we had just got out of a situation with this
Speaker 4: female named Bonzoy. Bonzo Compton used to be on a
Speaker 4: laundry in Atlantic.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Uh, balling little lady.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Turtle sister. That's Turtle sister. That's Turtle sister. Know Bono. Okay,
Speaker 5: we record storing the cut right there with the barbershopping
Speaker 5: all that. We was initially messing with Bonswish Studio just
Speaker 5: to go over there and drop ship. I used to
Speaker 5: go over what I'm saying, and she had us signed
Speaker 5: some contract basically to where we couldn't take the music
Speaker 5: and do what we wanted to with it, which we
Speaker 5: wasn't tripping off of because like I said, we wasn't
Speaker 5: really really trying to pursue using It was the niggas
Speaker 5: who produced Summertime in the LBC who let us know, man, y'all,
Speaker 5: that's some JANKI shiit y'all, paperwork JANKI as fuck, y'all
Speaker 5: quit fucking with that bright So we quit fucking with
Speaker 5: that situation, and we was just you know, on the block.
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying, Warren like, I'm a fuck
Speaker 5: with y'all, be cause I'm a fuck with y'all. Let
Speaker 5: me get my ship going. Let me get my ship going. Cut,
Speaker 5: I'm aa fuck with y'all, y'all. Just y'all need to
Speaker 5: stop selling dope ga up.
Speaker 1: Cut.
Speaker 4: We can't stop doing that cause we got we got
Speaker 4: kids at this time, before we got record deals.
Speaker 1: We got kids. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: We kids, We're kids, so we're not We're not in
Speaker 4: a situation where we could stop doing what we're doing.
Speaker 4: If you're not providing us out, we can't stop doing
Speaker 4: we're doing. So when the situation of Paul Stewart hit
Speaker 4: us after we ended up doing we end up doing
Speaker 4: roll with a gang first for Warren album and they
Speaker 4: was like, nah, that's two gangster for the album. We
Speaker 4: did it on that one beat dun dun d dun
Speaker 4: dun d d d d.
Speaker 1: It's so.
Speaker 4: That was originally deaf shock beat and we did a
Speaker 4: song roll with a gang on there. Death Jam was like, fuck, no,
Speaker 4: that's just way too gang banged out. You know, no
Speaker 4: better was still gang bang. So Warren g slid us.
Speaker 4: This is a shock. You know what I'm saying. We did,
Speaker 4: this is a shock. They heard it. Everybody went bananas.
Speaker 4: Chris Lighty heard it. He went crazy, you know what
Speaker 4: I'm saying. Next thing, I know, we get a phone call.
Speaker 4: What y'all doing? What y'all situation? Like, we don't got
Speaker 4: no situation. You'all got demo record. I don't know nothing
Speaker 4: about that ship. We ain't working on no shit. Now,
Speaker 4: we ain't got no demo. We ain't even trying to
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, so immediately get off phone
Speaker 4: with him, and I called you the height cuz motherfuckers
Speaker 4: just called us cut. They trying to fuck with us
Speaker 4: and what not. Warren Gee exact words to me were
Speaker 4: we cud, y'all better handle y'all business.
Speaker 1: Cut. I can't do everything for y'all.
Speaker 4: Cut.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, y'all cut, y'all gotta get
Speaker 1: y'all shit together. Cut, Get y'all a lawyer. I told
Speaker 1: y'all get y'all shit together. Cud.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, The shit was gonna pop off.
Speaker 4: So when he said that, as a hood nigga, what
Speaker 4: you take that ass? Handle your business right, do what
Speaker 4: you're doing, Do what you do. So that's what we did.
Speaker 4: We pursued the situation. You feel what I'm saying. It
Speaker 4: wasn't not until we were signed and locked in. You
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. Warren turned around like, wait, hold up,
Speaker 4: that's my group. You know what I'm saying. Why they
Speaker 4: over here signed the P and P whatnot and him
Speaker 4: going to death jam is what kind of you know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying, fucked it off for Paul Stewart. You
Speaker 4: feel what I'm saying, but Death Jam didn't turn around
Speaker 4: and compensate what's on G Funk because again they hadn't
Speaker 4: given the complete green light for that. They turned around
Speaker 4: and put us on Rush associated labels Hell death Jam.
Speaker 4: But again, Warren g had, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 4: a lightweight issue with the fact that we wasn't up
Speaker 4: under him. So to make everything smooth everything over with him,
Speaker 4: they put the G Funk imprint on our album. That's okay,
Speaker 4: that's why we thought we thought you was.
Speaker 1: Saying, and I didn't. I'm just finding out Warren didn't
Speaker 1: produce Summertime in the LBC.
Speaker 4: Warren didn't produce nothing on our album.
Speaker 1: Wow, did you know that him?
Speaker 4: I did not know that.
Speaker 1: I didn't know that all these years that Warren did
Speaker 1: Summertime in the LBC.
Speaker 4: No, Hank and Lamont did that. Really not the same
Speaker 4: dudes that did. They'll come a day and a couple
Speaker 4: of other records. You know what I'm saying. On our
Speaker 4: thing that was Hank in Lamont then was the Homies
Speaker 4: on forty ninth Street when chopping on forty nine, Yeah,
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, and ended up moving on
Speaker 4: the other side on the other side of Loan beas,
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. And these niggas stayed in
Speaker 4: the same complex and I used to just walk by
Speaker 4: their garage all the time. Get it beat and it
Speaker 4: actually was the homie plow Lil Pelok is the one
Speaker 4: like cut cuse they got a beat over there, cut
Speaker 4: like you gotta hear that ship cut and he the
Speaker 4: one pushed summer Time in the LBC on the Motherfucker.
Speaker 4: But Nah, Warren didn't do that. The only beat from
Speaker 4: Warren on our album is this is a Shock. And
Speaker 4: that's because it was taken off regulated album and put
Speaker 4: on our album because the name of our album was
Speaker 4: this is the Shock. But Warren g didn't do not
Speaker 4: one beat on our album. And actually Daz did a
Speaker 4: beat on our album. He did it up under his
Speaker 4: alias Amani. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: He did the.
Speaker 4: East Side, he did east Side and something else. But
Speaker 4: at that particular time, you know what I'm saying, Uh,
Speaker 4: Warren was kind of you know, pissed off, you know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So he didn't give us no beats.
Speaker 4: Wow, we Keith Clark, the homie Keith Clark, you know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying, who started off with Warren? Who housed Warren?
Speaker 4: And then was that on twentieth You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 4: that's who house they started at. Keith Clark, you know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying. Keith Clark did Hank Lamont.
Speaker 1: Dad and uh.
Speaker 4: I remember Keith Clark. I forgot what his name was.
Speaker 4: Dave Dave Something, not Dave Aaron, It was another Dave
Speaker 4: black dude. He also produced Coolio's Fantastic Voyage and what's
Speaker 4: the name coolio first single?
Speaker 1: What was his name? Dave Something? The black brother I
Speaker 1: know you're talking about. I don't know.
Speaker 4: I thought it was the only why ohd produce that?
Speaker 1: You know what? Let me ask you a question though,
Speaker 1: So Dad stated that in his alias because he was
Speaker 1: on the road at that time, that row at.
Speaker 4: That time, right yeah, and at that time what's her name?
Speaker 4: Then wouldn't see an eye of eye Sugar and Russell.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. They wouldn't see an eye
Speaker 4: that eye at all. You know what I'm saying. So
Speaker 4: I had did a gang. I did a gang of
Speaker 4: records over there on Death Road, that Death Jam that
Speaker 4: Russell them just put the brakes on you know what
Speaker 4: I'm saying, all over the LBC cul and me and
Speaker 4: Dog got so many fucking records together, from fucking Magic
Speaker 4: Jeanie to all type of shit Dog. I literally was
Speaker 4: at Canam Studio seven days a week for damn near
Speaker 4: two years straight, right right. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 4: for damn near two years straight. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 4: just up there fucking with Dog. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 4: the Dog Pound whatnot. You know, but no, I wish
Speaker 4: I wish we would have been signed to Warn. We
Speaker 4: might as well have, because you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 4: we kept our loyalty to him. That's the only reason
Speaker 4: we ended up out our death jam situation. Like he
Speaker 4: don't even know this, He don't even know this. When
Speaker 4: they when they backed up off of Warn, you know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying, they were still trying to fuck with
Speaker 4: the death shack. You know what I'm saying. You know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying. I well, I probably lost it by now.
Speaker 4: I don't know if my baby mama still got that
Speaker 4: mo fucking story. But I had a tall bottle of
Speaker 4: gray Goose. Remember they sell a gigantic gray Goose and
Speaker 4: leor sent me. Wow, you know what I'm saying, Leor
Speaker 4: had Cathy sending to my house. You feel what I'm
Speaker 4: saying to as a thing, saying that they was fucking
Speaker 4: with death Shack. Get we fucking with the Death Shock
Speaker 4: but no in a way that's but they hit me
Speaker 4: with the butt do the bull Rock record first before
Speaker 4: second Shock out. But then we heard there was an
Speaker 4: issue with Warren. You know what I'm saying, because some
Speaker 4: shit something supposed to happen between Warren and LLL.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Oh shit, what happened with them?
Speaker 4: Dude? I guess LLLL was hating on warn You know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying. He was in rustling them ear and
Speaker 4: Chris lighting them ear, trying to hate on Warren because
Speaker 4: Warren was the man. Warren save Death Jam for sure.
Speaker 4: Warren not only save death Jam, he saved PolyGram, which
Speaker 4: ended up becoming Universal, right damn it. And I remember
Speaker 4: walking into the Universal office after they tur for PolyGram.
Speaker 4: Soon as you walk in the building used to be
Speaker 4: on Wilshore and fucking suppovitor, I mean Santa Monica's suppovid.
Speaker 4: As soon as you walk in, they had a gigantic
Speaker 4: I'm talking about from the top of that wall to
Speaker 4: the bottom of that wall, a thank you plaque to
Speaker 4: Warren G. A big old thank you to Warren G.
Speaker 4: With all the records and with the exact numbers, the
Speaker 4: exact dollar amount of what he had made them. They
Speaker 4: had put that shit in a fucking plaque and hung
Speaker 4: it up in the fucking lobby. Wow, that's how much
Speaker 4: money Warren G had made for Death Jam in Universal.
Speaker 4: They literally thanked him for saving him. Uh No, at
Speaker 4: the time, out the gate it went five out the gate.
Speaker 4: Eventually it did, but it did like four five right
Speaker 4: out the gate. But he basically saved them. They was
Speaker 4: Deaf Jam had just lost a deal with they distribution
Speaker 4: did with something them. You feel what I'm saying, what
Speaker 4: nothing selling on Death Jam. Warren G came over and
Speaker 4: literally saved the whole label. So everybody LL built Death
Speaker 4: Jim Deaf Jam was built on LL's back, but DMC
Speaker 4: wasn't signed. You know this dog.
Speaker 1: LL seemed like he had a problem with everybody that
Speaker 1: came in after him. He had a problem with Jay.
Speaker 1: You know what what and I don't I don't. I
Speaker 1: don't knock him for that.
Speaker 4: I don't knock him for that, because you know what,
Speaker 4: it was the same situation with a lot of people
Speaker 4: who feel I helped build something. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 4: I helped build something as the motherfucker. It's the same
Speaker 4: way Shaq felt about Kobe, and while he left the Lakers,
Speaker 4: he felt that I had built this motherfucker back to
Speaker 4: the dynasty it is. And now y'all favor and this
Speaker 4: little nigga more so than me of showing this nigga
Speaker 4: the same amount of love you're showing me.
Speaker 1: Fuck all that.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, that's that's that's the situation.
Speaker 4: I mean, it's it's sort of the situation that happened
Speaker 4: with a Dog and Pop. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 4: when Pop came into death Road. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 4: Dog had to right to feel something like this motherfucker
Speaker 4: was built on my back, you know what I'm saying. Yeah,
Speaker 4: Drake Chronic was cool, but Drake Chronic wouldn't even be
Speaker 4: Drake Chronic without Snoop Dog. You feel what I'm saying,
Speaker 4: This motherfucker was built on my shoulders. You know what
Speaker 4: I'm saying. For you to turn around and say that
Speaker 4: this is the motherfucker, you know what I'm saying. So
Speaker 4: that's how I'm assuming l L was perceiving it, like
Speaker 4: Death Jam was built on my shoulders, you know what
Speaker 4: I'm saying. You know, l A at that time still
Speaker 4: was rapping and whatnot, so they probably was putting you
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. If you think about it, during
Speaker 4: that era when warn G and all of us dropped,
Speaker 4: what East Coast artists dropped me Man Wu Tang was
Speaker 4: running ship you know, through Death Jam, you know what
Speaker 4: I'm saying. They had DM later on, but it was method,
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Over there.
Speaker 4: They was even they even had something going on with
Speaker 4: a brand Pooba and whatnot, But there was no LL
Speaker 4: records during that time. Here, think about it.
Speaker 1: We both had one album that was kind of did
Speaker 1: bad though, the one with the who shots you on
Speaker 1: there with the they was they was going hard on
Speaker 1: that album.
Speaker 4: But that's that's that's the that's the one that had
Speaker 4: flopped and had had death that Death Jam had banked
Speaker 4: a lot of money on and had them really sinking.
Speaker 4: Let me ask you this, did Death Jam have warned
Speaker 4: first as a West Coast group or South Central Cartel
Speaker 4: or j Yo Felony.
Speaker 1: Oh, well, Jail Felony was signed to he was signed.
Speaker 4: With Jacks that I could not tell you. You know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying, because I don't know if Greedy Greg
Speaker 4: had his situation first either, because it's the same time
Speaker 4: had his situation first. That means record Yeah, US, because
Speaker 4: I remember going to the sharm Stick video. Shoot. You
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, that was doing the same time
Speaker 4: period as US. JO was the same time period as US.
Speaker 4: The only thing I believe that was before US was
Speaker 4: Domino on Death Jam. Ghetto Jam dropped before Outbursts. Yeah,
Speaker 4: so Martel was over there too, I mean, what's the name, Yeah,
Speaker 4: BG Knockout, BG Knockout. They was through Outbursts, and I
Speaker 4: believe Outbursts had their situation before we got over there. Yeah,
Speaker 4: that's Domino had. I remember domind listening to Domino when
Speaker 4: we before we even dropped.
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying, Domino was getting played on
Speaker 5: the original kJ. From my understanding, am K with the
Speaker 5: Ghetto you might have.
Speaker 1: Been might have been.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't, but I don't know when JO situation
Speaker 4: officially got locked. I know it was after Domino. I
Speaker 4: was wondering if right now, huh, let me EXI with
Speaker 4: right now yep? Or but I don't know what south
Speaker 4: Central cart because South Central Cartel was one of Leor's projects.
Speaker 4: He loved South Central. Shout out to you have like boys.
Speaker 4: I remember New York. Flew out here from New York
Speaker 4: and came picked me up in the nine eleven Porsche.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying that, like you want you
Speaker 4: ride with me? Where we're going. We're going to visit
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, We're going to visit South It's.
Speaker 5: Safe to say that y'all was like us, because if
Speaker 5: y'all didn't come up through Snoopy or Warren or on
Speaker 5: your own ten toes period.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's that's how me and eight was. We didn't
Speaker 4: go through depth jam. We went through roofless. We were
Speaker 4: had our own situation.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean.
Speaker 4: We was r L death jam and shout out to
Speaker 4: KD Washington. KD Washington. He was a new attorney at
Speaker 4: that time, fresh out of Moorhouse. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: KD went on to be involved in nelling them situation.
Speaker 4: But he was originally from Saint Louis. You know what
Speaker 4: I'm saying. We met him through our boy Phil, who
Speaker 4: was managing us at the time. But KD was slick
Speaker 4: enough and new enough to have a type of clause
Speaker 4: in our contract to where if by after our first
Speaker 4: release within a year, death Jam had to have a
Speaker 4: release in a set time for our second album or
Speaker 4: we can opt out of our contract. I just couldn't
Speaker 4: have a sitting. Remember, they had nice and smooth sitting,
Speaker 4: y did you know what I'm saying. Everybody in the
Speaker 4: industry knew that that they had nice and smooth just sitting,
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. And then word was in
Speaker 4: the game that Prince had Rosie what was her name,
Speaker 4: Rosie Gaines sitting. Everybody in the industry knew that, you
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, The girl that sings on diamonds
Speaker 4: and pearls had her just sitting. That was a big
Speaker 4: thing back then. Motherfucker's sign. And then just sit him dog,
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, Just sit him off to
Speaker 4: the side and sit him on the shelves.
Speaker 1: The deal.
Speaker 4: So he made sure that we had a thing in
Speaker 4: our claws to Hey, I wanted out that motherfucker you
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. Hold on real quick, I'm gonna
Speaker 4: plug you. Hold on one second, dog, i'mna put on
Speaker 4: the thing Young Bullet.
Speaker 6: Ugly because it's chilling ball rock, mother lips, mus.
Speaker 1: Mouth, mother.
Speaker 4: Brown brown tequila, my rock man. What's up man, brown
Speaker 4: brown tea?
Speaker 2: Oh no, I know you ain't got brown shitty corrupt
Speaker 2: with you.
Speaker 1: We were trying to figure out.
Speaker 4: Who was signed on Death Jef first, South Central Cartel
Speaker 4: or was Outbursting him over there first?
Speaker 1: Or was you?
Speaker 2: Uh South Central Cartel and Outbursts.
Speaker 4: Outburst had b G knockout, Yeah, I know.
Speaker 2: Knut Moching, Stephan them pretty Greg. Yeah, I think they
Speaker 2: came after.
Speaker 7: I think Warren G was there first, and then then
Speaker 7: I came after that, and then I think they came.
Speaker 4: After South Central Cartel was after uh.
Speaker 2: Cartel wasn't on this for the real.
Speaker 1: Huh?
Speaker 4: What was your first single? This is for the Real
Speaker 4: Niggas and the Bitch.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Jason's lyrics soundtrack.
Speaker 1: Right who that was jail first thing? Yeah? I thought
Speaker 1: was his first single.
Speaker 5: No, it was just because he was I stole this
Speaker 5: type from John Smith Old Lawyer well Man Man.
Speaker 7: On the West soundtrack on the Jason's Lyrics soundtrack lyrics.
Speaker 1: Ship you know what, that's right, that's more for this
Speaker 1: history up here. We see, I see man, We're gonna
Speaker 1: call bullet local. We ain't want to be up here,
Speaker 1: you know, falsifying no facts.
Speaker 6: You know what I mean?
Speaker 4: You know what's crazy Jason's lyric that that premiere y'all
Speaker 4: remember the premiere party at the House of Blues. Yeah,
Speaker 4: that's where me and Pot got into it at Is
Speaker 4: that right? It's the first time I met Pot and
Speaker 4: we got into segonway. I've been drinking water. I got
Speaker 4: to piss again.
Speaker 1: Oh man, come on, man, you go to bathion of time.
Speaker 2: Man, bad bladder as nigga?
Speaker 1: What what what?
Speaker 4: Nigga in the bathroom for the time like an old man,
Speaker 4: he said, bad bladder having.
Speaker 1: Let me ask you this because it seemed like, so
Speaker 1: I want to go back to this Warren C. L
Speaker 1: six ways. So I was just hating no motherfuckers up
Speaker 1: in the building.
Speaker 4: Nah, he was hating on Warren G. Because they was
Speaker 4: praising Warren G so much. Basically, Warren G had became
Speaker 4: the man at death Jamlician and l L. When he
Speaker 4: distinctly he distinctly criticized the way Warren G rapped. You
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, because remember Warren G misspelled it
Speaker 4: misspelled his name, the W E the W to the R.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying on the album. But that's
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, What's next? What's next? What's
Speaker 4: n x e T You know what I'm saying. So
Speaker 4: motherfucking l L. You know, Warren G is smart enough
Speaker 4: to know he could have redid that if he put
Speaker 4: it out. Motherfucker, he meant to put it the fuck out.
Speaker 4: But LLL want to paint the picture as if Warren
Speaker 4: G's a dummy, he's bad for rap. You know what
Speaker 4: I'm saying, He don't really know how to rap. You
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. He was trying to hate on
Speaker 4: warng g situation. You know what I'm saying and try
Speaker 4: to push off on them that Warren G should be
Speaker 4: more like Doctor Dre and just stick to producing and
Speaker 4: have other rappers rap.
Speaker 1: You feel what I'm saying, Well, that nigga will ill
Speaker 1: it flunked before that. That's why they def Jim wasn't
Speaker 1: the thing they was in because he put out that
Speaker 1: who shots and shit.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and the pink cookies in the plastic bag.
Speaker 1: Getting crushed by a billion all little weird shit. You know,
Speaker 1: no disrespect to ll but.
Speaker 4: No, I would never, ever, ever, ever disrespect LLL because regardless,
Speaker 4: and this is why I say LLL wasn't hating on everybody,
Speaker 4: because LLL did something for me personally that he didn't
Speaker 4: have to do as a West Coast artist. We had
Speaker 4: went on tour to Japan, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: And when I came back, we had a janky ass
Speaker 4: business manager, but I wasn't tripping dog. I didn't pay
Speaker 4: my rent up before I left to go to Japan
Speaker 4: and know it was gonna be going that long. So
Speaker 4: while we was in Japan, I lost my motherfucking apartment,
Speaker 4: you feel what I'm saying. So when I came back,
Speaker 4: I'm homeless, you know what I'm saying. My friend who
Speaker 4: stayed in the apartment building with me, she had she
Speaker 4: had got all my stuff for me. When she seen
Speaker 4: they was putting me out, she got all my stuff
Speaker 4: for me and put it in her storage. So I
Speaker 4: had hit leor and them, like I just got off
Speaker 4: the plane. I ain't got no place to live, so
Speaker 4: they put me in the La Montros La Montros Hotel.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: So I'm in the La Montros for about at least
Speaker 4: about a month or so.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: I ain't even trying to look for an apartment because
Speaker 4: every time anything they call it, we're doing this, We're
Speaker 4: doing promo tours and all this old shit to push
Speaker 4: the album and push the show soundtrack and all this
Speaker 4: whod shit. Right anyway, dog my bill run up at
Speaker 4: the Lo Montros. You feel what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: And I'm not knowing.
Speaker 4: So I'm coming back from an event again, I'm up
Speaker 4: in the La Mantros Hotel. They like, yeah, your thing
Speaker 4: is due tomorrow. Now, this is on I believe a Saturday.
Speaker 4: I feel what I'm saying. Ain't nobody a death jam
Speaker 4: on a Sunday. You feel what I'm saying. So I
Speaker 4: called John Stockton. You know what I'm saying, the homie
Speaker 4: John Stock that worked over there. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 4: John stock You know what I'm saying. Shout out to
Speaker 4: John Stock. John stock always looked out. You feel what
Speaker 4: I'm saying. I called John Stott and John Stott at
Speaker 4: the time I tell him what was going on, I'm like, man,
Speaker 4: you need to get Lee Ord track Lee or Russell
Speaker 4: or somebody. Get one of the motherfucker's on the line.
Speaker 4: Dug before my You know what I'm saying. I can't
Speaker 4: be without no place to live. Dog Like, come on now,
Speaker 4: y'all gott to fix this situation. I didn't know why
Speaker 4: I was talking to John. John was in the car
Speaker 4: moving in traffic with LM. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: So next thing I know, I get a phone. John like,
Speaker 4: i'm'a handle. I'm gonna call him, see what's up. You
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. So I get a phone call.
Speaker 4: I'm thinking, you know, he called me back to tell
Speaker 4: me something. You know what I'm saying. Then nigga like,
Speaker 4: come downstairs. You know what I'm saying. I go downstairs.
Speaker 4: He introduced me to LLL and paid my whole bill
Speaker 4: that was due, and paid for a whole nother week.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: So the nigga knocked off the It was like like
Speaker 4: two three. You know what I'm saying. That he dropped
Speaker 4: real quick. You know what I'm saying, knock off the
Speaker 4: bill and put me up in there and didn't even
Speaker 4: know me. He was just on someome man.
Speaker 1: I know how it is.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying up and coming artists, man,
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. I didn't want you to
Speaker 4: be in no bad situation, man. So that's just love
Speaker 4: on the strength.
Speaker 1: That was because I heard a couple of things the
Speaker 1: homies from South Central Cartel told me that they had.
Speaker 1: Because I always wondered how the Mob Deep niggas wind
Speaker 1: up with the same name as the South Central Cartel niggas,
Speaker 1: the heavy can Products, and then you find out that
Speaker 1: they had management heavy in Products. You had a manager
Speaker 1: of somebody that was in Chris Lighting and them that
Speaker 1: was inside of Death Jam, and probably I went back
Speaker 1: and gave him that ship.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I get off the phone, man, Uh, no disrespect.
Speaker 2: I could never disrespect ll that. That was my favorite
Speaker 2: motherfucking rapper, you know what I mean.
Speaker 7: And I just know Warren g when he came along,
Speaker 7: he saved Death Jam from going bankrupt.
Speaker 5: Right, Death Jam was going bankrupt, and you know, and
Speaker 5: record would put him back on.
Speaker 2: That three triple platinum record.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I was just wondering if I was just wondering
Speaker 4: who was over there from the West.
Speaker 5: That was first was the Jews South Central cartel or
Speaker 5: the Outburst situation, you.
Speaker 1: Know what I mean.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Dame after I think I was signed to jam
Speaker 2: Master J before before they was signed over there with Outbursts.
Speaker 2: I was already I was already signed.
Speaker 4: I know, I know you was definitely signed before we
Speaker 4: had got signed because we end up coming. You was
Speaker 4: already locked in with jam Master J when we when
Speaker 4: they brought us to your video shoot.
Speaker 2: Yeah, then then I signed.
Speaker 1: They wouldn't do a courting process with us. Yeah. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: I was over there first before before that.
Speaker 7: Then I was signed directly to death Jam in New York, right,
Speaker 7: you know what I mean, I wasn't signed to death
Speaker 7: Jam West.
Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure. Man, tell yo, man, we gotta get
Speaker 1: you on this motherfucker dog.
Speaker 2: We got no doubt.
Speaker 1: So I appreciate you man calling in.
Speaker 2: Hey, no doubt, man, I have a go on all right?
Speaker 1: Sure that was Jo feeling me.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but that was that was That was a good
Speaker 4: time period, you know what I'm saying for the West
Speaker 4: Coast music. Like I said, I just wish it hadn't
Speaker 4: happened the way it did as far as you know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying, us not you know, being signed directly
Speaker 4: to Warren. The situation happened with Warren and them falling
Speaker 4: out and then Lee or them, you know, like I said,
Speaker 4: you know, And to this day though I'm on the
Speaker 4: fence about whether that was whether I made the right
Speaker 4: decision or not. You know what I'm saying, because keeping
Speaker 4: loyal to Warn and knowing the Warn was falling out
Speaker 4: with death Jam, we forced them to let us go.
Speaker 4: We you know what I'm saying, We exercise as that
Speaker 4: clause that was in our contract about the year thing.
Speaker 4: That's the cloth we was cut from, bro.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: I'm saying it was like, well, shit, y'all ain't got
Speaker 4: a date for us, y'all. We had we had did it,
Speaker 4: We had did We was working on the second album.
Speaker 4: We hadn't turned it in though we was doing one
Speaker 4: with DJ Rectangle, you know what I'm saying. But this
Speaker 4: is how we knew what was going on on the
Speaker 4: inside with Warren too, you know what I'm saying. With them,
Speaker 4: and they're not seeing an eye of eye, you know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying. We was almost complete with the the thing,
Speaker 4: and we had presented I believe we had presented we
Speaker 4: was gonna turn in a song what you see, which
Speaker 4: had a Tracy Chapman sample on it. You know what
Speaker 4: I'm saying, So that you know, Tracy Chapman shot that
Speaker 4: down so she don't let nobody sample him. Shit, So
Speaker 4: we go back to the drawing board to go work.
Speaker 4: Going back to the drawing board pushed us over that
Speaker 4: that time period, you know what I'm saying. So now okay,
Speaker 4: oh well we ain't been released in a year, so
Speaker 4: now the ball is in our court, you know what
Speaker 4: I'm saying, on whether we want to stay or not.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. And since you ain't fucking
Speaker 4: with the homies, you know what I'm saying. And it
Speaker 4: was basically, we just felt some jankie shit was going
Speaker 4: on because they had snatched Tina Tina David. Shout out
Speaker 4: to Tina Davis. You know what I'm saying, one of
Speaker 4: the dopest motherfucking females executive ever in the fucking business
Speaker 4: and just cooling the motherfucker. It's through her that I
Speaker 4: met e Fordy, Richie rich and all that shit. Her
Speaker 4: taking me to Oakland but Tina Davis was head of
Speaker 4: Deaf Jam West, you know what I'm saying, and she's
Speaker 4: a beast on the business shit, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: So they seen her talents and was not immediately snatched
Speaker 4: her up to New York, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: And really it wasn't no death Jam West no more.
Speaker 4: It wasn't no location we used to. It went from
Speaker 4: Paul Stewart's office on Third in Los Enegod to where
Speaker 4: they had to Death Jam West thing. When they fell
Speaker 4: out with Paul Stewart, they moved Deaf Jam West on
Speaker 4: Sunset right down from the Roxy, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: And then they decided to shut that down, you know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: And there was this.
Speaker 4: Big old thing to where everybody just you know what
Speaker 4: I'm saying, start shaking the spot, and they relocated motherfuckers
Speaker 4: to New York. So then it became hard to communicate.
Speaker 4: It used to be easy, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: You go up to the office, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: Nobody answered the phone. You go up to the office,
Speaker 4: I'm saying, such and such here you waiting the lobby.
Speaker 4: They gonna come see you and whatnot. You know what
Speaker 4: I'm saying. Now, it's all phone tag. It's all phone tag.
Speaker 4: It's all phone tag. And mind you, at this time
Speaker 4: we're dealing straight with Leor. We're not dealing with nobody else.
Speaker 4: You got Leor on speed down. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 4: New to the business, not realizing who this motherfucker was,
Speaker 4: how powerful he was, and the moves that he was making.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. Niggas got him on speed down.
Speaker 4: Y'all be talking Leo all time. You're talking to New York.
Speaker 4: Time call Kathy. Let me speak Lyori. You know what
Speaker 4: I'm saying. I knew he was the man at death Jam,
Speaker 4: you know, saying up under Russell, but I didn't know
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying and whatnot. So basically, the
Speaker 4: maneuvers that he was making was becoming too big to
Speaker 4: just be accepting phone calls from groups. You feel what
Speaker 4: I'm saying and whatnot. So he had encouraged us to
Speaker 4: get some new management. We had fired our manager and whatnot.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. He wanted us to get
Speaker 4: new management during that time period and what not. Then
Speaker 4: it became well let's work on the boat Rock project.
Speaker 4: And then me being a hood nigga, like you know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying, Like now we don't feel that you
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, I just can't leave my niggas.
Speaker 4: Let's do another Dove Shock. Then we talk about a
Speaker 4: boat rock and whatnot. You know what I'm saying and
Speaker 4: what not. Well, I'm not really interested in doing the
Speaker 4: dev shock first. You know what I'm saying. This single summertime,
Speaker 4: it's finna go out the roof. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: Trust me, you know what I'm saying. I want to
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, Let's focus on you. And
Speaker 4: I'm like, naha, well man, look we just gonna we're
Speaker 4: just gonna opt out our contract.
Speaker 1: Man, Like, you know, that's unfortunate. I want to go
Speaker 1: back to one thing because it kind of got set
Speaker 1: up so you and Pot got into it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, what was that all about?
Speaker 1: Uh?
Speaker 4: An incident happened with fucking Jada Pinkett at the Jason's lyric.
Speaker 4: Fucking shit, you know what I'm saying, and me fucking
Speaker 4: uh who was out there with? I forgot who the
Speaker 4: fuck I was there with. But anyway, I ended up
Speaker 4: meeting Dog, Dre and all them down there. You know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying. Yeah, they hit me. I forgot who
Speaker 4: the fuck hit me and told me that they was
Speaker 4: coming down to the House of Blues. But anyway, they
Speaker 4: showed up Dog Snoop Dash Corrupt Shine Dog Big Style.
Speaker 4: They had just finished recording what would you Do? You
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, and Dre brought it to the
Speaker 4: House of Blues. He was gonna premiere it and play
Speaker 4: it for the club. So everybody just lined up, you know,
Speaker 4: the House of Blues. The DJ booth was here to
Speaker 4: face the stage, So everybody lined up by the DJ booth. Shit,
Speaker 4: come on, boom boom boom boom boom, whole place, go bananas.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. Arncourtana Pocket is with Jada
Speaker 4: Jada had. She had a little like a little seat
Speaker 4: through like type dress.
Speaker 1: All right, Pop go.
Speaker 4: To slam dance. Not knowing this niggas and the slam
Speaker 4: he could jump out here on the fucking dance floor
Speaker 4: with the outlaw niggas. No, it wasn't even an outlaw
Speaker 4: niggas at the time. It was a thug likee niggas
Speaker 4: it was, but but what's the name? Was let him
Speaker 4: though Cych was still with him. Though, Yeah, yeah, this
Speaker 4: nigga go out here just to start slam dancing, like
Speaker 4: they form a circle around him, throwing this nigga around
Speaker 4: the circle, and he like like like he is in
Speaker 4: the rock and roll concert or like he heavy metal,
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. But everybody in the place
Speaker 4: is going crazy to what would you do? That motherfucker
Speaker 4: got there. It got the whole place vibrating. Ain't nobody
Speaker 4: heard no beat like that?
Speaker 1: You know? Boo got boo.
Speaker 4: Boo boot as a super flow. Here, Shine Dog here
Speaker 4: no little style, Little style and shine dogs standing next
Speaker 4: to each other. And Jada is over there, you know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying. So she dancing and ship you know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying, tworking her little booty and whatnot. Whyle
Speaker 4: pocket is on the thing, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: And she kind of we was all like almost in
Speaker 4: a straight line, but this nigga kind of stepped up,
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, so we could see her
Speaker 4: fucking ass.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Her little bitty booty. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: It's a little booty. You know what I'm saying while
Speaker 4: she dancing to the music and whatnot. So I think
Speaker 4: it was little style or shine on one of my
Speaker 4: nuts like this, my look. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: Basically like niggas, she trying to throw it to you.
Speaker 4: You know how niggas be talking like niggas trying to.
Speaker 1: Nigga. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: At this time, I'm not knowing that her in pocket
Speaker 4: is fucking you feel what I'm saying. Everybody, I don't
Speaker 4: know what this new thing is acting like they.
Speaker 1: Was just better.
Speaker 4: These niggas was fucking we know what's up. You know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying. Motherfucker was fucking At this time, I
Speaker 4: didn't know he was fucking. You feel who she was
Speaker 4: will Smith? Then before then, yeah, this way before then,
Speaker 4: he was still just he was still in bel air.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he was still in bel air. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying.
Speaker 4: It this way before then this at the Jason's lyric
Speaker 4: from beer party at the House of Blues, You know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying. So, you know, niggas being mischievous and
Speaker 4: all of those ships you're talking, You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: So I reach around, I reach around little style what
Speaker 4: I'm said and slap her cheeks. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 4: I reach around. You know what I'm saying. That nigga
Speaker 4: turn around and lose it.
Speaker 7: Mmm.
Speaker 4: She talked to the hommy dog. You know what I'm saying. Like,
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: It's all funny games. So cars turn around and be like, oh,
Speaker 4: cud while you do that?
Speaker 1: What it?
Speaker 4: Just immediately just throw a niggaup under the bust right
Speaker 4: right right, right right right right? You got you tripping.
Speaker 4: So by this time, this nigga came over, right he
Speaker 4: see the commotion. Now, cuse I'm gonna turn up. He
Speaker 4: turning up talking crazy to He's tired cuz it was
Speaker 4: some or was it super? It was somebody He started
Speaker 4: just like rowing up at like on some light. He
Speaker 4: hard type shit you feel I'm saying now. At this
Speaker 4: time a lot of people don't know Pop was trying
Speaker 4: to identify himself as a cryp. Right, yeah, you know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying, because you know, all thug life was crips.
Speaker 1: It was for these.
Speaker 4: Yeah cousin blue ragging want all that you feel what
Speaker 4: I'm saying, So this nigga trying to go off and
Speaker 4: show off of these niggas. So the nigga keep cousin,
Speaker 4: keep cousin to hommy. You know what I'm saying, WOUTI
Speaker 4: will shiit die. Damn motherfuckers like Dre upstairs. Dre, you
Speaker 4: know they had that little eating section upstairs. Everybody go
Speaker 4: upstairs and a little eating section. They go their little
Speaker 4: separate ways. Here come this nigga with these niggas again
Speaker 4: over to the eating section. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 4: trying to figure out who did what? Hey man, which
Speaker 4: one of y'all.
Speaker 1: Telling you get your cousin? So it make me mad?
Speaker 1: I'm I'm Pelican bait nigga. Ni what you're doing?
Speaker 4: All that cripping for nigga? You ain't the only crip
Speaker 4: up in this motherfucker nigga, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: Soon as he said that, the light skinned niggah, I
Speaker 4: don't know where cudz for. I think it was some
Speaker 4: fodies or iv C or something. Cuz go to say
Speaker 4: some nigga that was with him for the thug lifeych No,
Speaker 4: not sight psyching the one that was with him kind
Speaker 4: of kind of stock you long he had longer, too long,
Speaker 4: kind of like he kind of looked like Chino said.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I know you're talking about, but I didn't know
Speaker 4: where he was from. Though I know you're talking about that.
Speaker 4: Try to buck up. I immediately I wouldn't. You know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying, Go in on cuz drade him scattered.
Speaker 1: They gone. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: You know, any first tign of commotion, nigga out of here.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, He gone. You know what
Speaker 4: I'm saying, The Homy shine Dog separated us and whatnot. Nigga,
Speaker 4: I'm so hot because this nigga has been putting on
Speaker 4: this whole show. So the whole time, I'm like, Nigga,
Speaker 4: when we get outside, Nigga, I'm finna beat your fucking ass.
Speaker 4: My nigga, I'm finna beat your ass. And I'm trying
Speaker 4: to get this nigga to come outside. Nigga, they they upstairs.
Speaker 4: They would not come up from upstairs, my nigga. They
Speaker 4: would not come from upstairs. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: And that's when I officially met sych Couz came over
Speaker 4: and introduced herself. He didn't introduce himself as that that.
Speaker 4: Nigga introduced herself as Psyche from my VC. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 4: I from my VCU. Rest in peace.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: And you know, you know coming from there, you know energy,
Speaker 4: you know when you when you come across with all right,
Speaker 4: what's up?
Speaker 1: Cuse you know what I'm saying. It must be you.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you must be the motherfucker that they hide behind
Speaker 4: right right right that's giving him this uh this bravado
Speaker 4: to be the way they are. You feel what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: And he knew it because because they were like, let
Speaker 4: that go. You know what I'm saying, don't don't, don't
Speaker 4: don't smash cause you know what I'm saying, cause it's
Speaker 4: a little loud mouth for whatn't not woot the wood
Speaker 4: woo woo woo woo.
Speaker 1: Let that go.
Speaker 4: That was the end of that. Tina Davis ended up
Speaker 4: taking me to, uh introduce me to Richie Rich. You
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. She introduced me to Richie rich
Speaker 4: introduced me to Foldy whatnot. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: You know, me and Richie Rich do the do GE's
Speaker 4: got to go to heaven, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: And it's only because of Richie Rich. You know what
Speaker 4: I'm saying. Did did that situation ended up not really
Speaker 4: going nowhere else? It wasn't because of sight, you know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying. It was because of the love I
Speaker 4: had for Richie Rich. You know what I'm saying. And
Speaker 4: at the time, Richie Rich didn't even know Me and
Speaker 4: Pocket had it out. You know what I'm saying. Like
Speaker 4: niggas a gang shit, don't run around speaking on shit.
Speaker 4: You feel what I'm saying. I'm fucking with you for
Speaker 4: you what I'm saying. But I did not know at
Speaker 4: that time even that him and Pak was like this,
Speaker 4: like that was that was his nigga. Like I remember
Speaker 4: coming into the Lo Mantos one time, I go grab
Speaker 4: a box of Syria. We finisah go do something? Him
Speaker 4: and Richie Rich and lips up in the l Mantos.
Speaker 4: I come over there and drop some cereal off.
Speaker 1: Nigga.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. Nigga, and and and and
Speaker 4: Richie Rich was on the speakerphone with Pop. You know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying. He was at I'm just gonna say this.
Speaker 4: He was at the Peninsula, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 4: And that that that situation with that girl that just happened.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. Situation with that girl that
Speaker 4: just happened. You know what I'm saying. That when he
Speaker 4: knocked that down, you know what I'm saying. And and
Speaker 4: and they was finished send word back to New York. Yeah,
Speaker 4: I just I just gutted that out. You know what
Speaker 4: told me about that? Yeah, I just I just I
Speaker 4: just ske ske skeeted all up in yours. You know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying. But yeah, yeah, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: That's a fact, right because he was on the phone
Speaker 4: telling Richie right after it happened, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: So I don't care who denied. She could say whatever
Speaker 4: she want to. Hey, you know what I'm saying. He
Speaker 4: made that call right after he did that, right, you
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, Like, I just I just did that.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, I just did that. You
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. You know what I'm saying. We
Speaker 4: ended up. You know what I'm saying after that? You
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, we ended up becoming cool. I
Speaker 4: ended up I ran into him a few times. You
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. That canam what I'm saying. During
Speaker 4: that time period, I was hanging hanging around there, you
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. And then we ended up actually
Speaker 4: getting on some deep conversations about the whole Illuminati shit,
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, and whatnot.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: I was, I was heavy on that ship way back then,
Speaker 4: you know, having conversations about that, you know, and we
Speaker 4: we ended up That's where we ended up connecting that
Speaker 4: and really communicating on you know what I'm saying, on
Speaker 4: that knowledge of that and me talking to him about
Speaker 4: different stuff that I had read, and he laced me
Speaker 4: up on stuff that he had knew, you know what
Speaker 4: I'm saying. But at first, yeah, we was our first
Speaker 4: our very first meeting. That wasn't that was our first
Speaker 4: meeting as communicator. The first time I ever seen him.
Speaker 4: He had came by, uh track studio, you know what
Speaker 4: I'm saying. And I believe no track studio on Violent
Speaker 4: That's where Warren G was recording Georgiana shit, and they
Speaker 4: I believe they were working on.
Speaker 1: The was it Above the Rim.
Speaker 4: I think it was the Above the Rim soundtrack, Becuz
Speaker 4: came by the studio to try to try to get
Speaker 4: some work, try to get warm G to either mix
Speaker 4: a record or give him a beat for the uh
Speaker 4: for the soundtrack, it was butter Rim. It was a
Speaker 4: butter Rim. He wanted to warn you to touch up
Speaker 4: a record, you know what I'm saying. For and for
Speaker 4: a butter Rim. But that was actually the first time
Speaker 4: I ever seen him, you know what I'm saying, and
Speaker 4: was not in like, oh no, that's that's Tupac, you
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. But the homies attitude was like
Speaker 4: I ain't with that shit like so it wasn't no
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, No big deal like that
Speaker 4: about about meeting. But you know what I'm saying again,
Speaker 4: we never had no no, no, no actual super dealings
Speaker 4: with each other, you know what I'm saying. Like we
Speaker 4: hung out, had drinks, you know what I'm saying. We
Speaker 4: was over here smoking weed and you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 4: and what not, Like even the vocals I did on
Speaker 4: Life of an Outlaw, you know what I'm saying, Cause
Speaker 4: wasn't even in the session for that. Yeah, you know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying. Uh h, Dave Aaron, Yeah, Dave Aaron
Speaker 4: put that together and whatnot. But he wasn't even in
Speaker 4: a session for that, so we never hung out and
Speaker 4: ship like that. I hung out more with Richie rich Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 4: shout out to Richie rich Man. That's a real bay
Speaker 4: Cat man. You know what I'm we gotta get. We
Speaker 4: gotta get Richie rich right there. Man like he a
Speaker 4: real like like I'm a real compan nigga. He a
Speaker 4: real long beach nigga. He a real Oakland nigga. You
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. Yeah, yeah, you know that nigga.
Speaker 4: Know what that nigga remind me of. That's the closest
Speaker 4: motherfucker I ever remind.
Speaker 1: Me of Billy D. Williams.
Speaker 4: That nigga, That nigga. I don't think I ever even
Speaker 4: heard Richie rich raise his voice. My nigga, his nigga.
Speaker 4: This nigga been smooth since you know.
Speaker 5: What I'm saying, and about his paper, I've been you
Speaker 5: know what I'm saying. You know what I'm saying, smooth.
Speaker 4: I went to his pa. He had white.
Speaker 5: He one of the first niggas my age with all
Speaker 5: white carpet, like fur carpet, and we walking.
Speaker 4: With shoes on in the month. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: He came and picked me up from a He was
Speaker 4: the first nigga I seen that had the car, his
Speaker 4: cars matching his motorcycle. Wheah, nigga came pick me up
Speaker 4: from the airport in Oakland and it was like a
Speaker 4: peach color cutlass with the white top.
Speaker 1: Damn. You know what I'm saying. I was like, Oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: this nigga here is a hell of a player. Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, But Jesse, he always reminded me Billy D. Willie
Speaker 4: because you know, Billy D. Williams ain't never have a
Speaker 4: movie where he got loud. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, what I'm saying, He's always kept the same. Jay
Speaker 1: Prince all got the same, the meaning because Jake, no
Speaker 1: matter how mad he gets.
Speaker 4: He's still like like, hey, I'm gonna.
Speaker 1: Tell you like this man. You know, it's just just
Speaker 1: real laid back. Don't never get their blood pressure raised
Speaker 1: up for nothing? Is that right? Yeah?
Speaker 4: I ain't never met that dude. What that dude about?
Speaker 1: Jay Prince? A cool care?
Speaker 4: I know Jay Prince from a long long time ago.
Speaker 1: Hey, Prince, the cool care. He gave high to see
Speaker 1: a d o dog when he had to let me know.
Speaker 1: Record came with the wind. When when when we had
Speaker 1: called down there, I called my homeboy Mike MC down
Speaker 1: there because that's how I met them. My boy Mike
Speaker 1: MC is from out here. Actually he was running a
Speaker 1: lot of stuff from Jay before he went over the
Speaker 1: New Tribe. Jay X miss blessed to go over the
Speaker 1: New Tribe. But J is a cool solid nigga. JA
Speaker 1: is just when you're doing business with Ja dog, you
Speaker 1: just gotta tell them what you want dog and be
Speaker 1: specific about it. J is all business. New Tribe. What
Speaker 1: was his name? Was it? Eric Brooks? What his name?
Speaker 4: Eric Brooks? That was That's that's who owned New Tribe.
Speaker 1: That was had who was on No New Tribe was dude, No,
Speaker 1: that's some oh boy on Eric Brooks on New Tribe.
Speaker 1: Yea Eric Brooks face myb yeah.
Speaker 4: Face. That's actually how the that's actually how crooked I was.
Speaker 4: I mean, you know, that was one of the big
Speaker 4: c styles first. That was his second deal after Capitol
Speaker 4: over there. Yeah was over there. Yeah the loon is
Speaker 4: just yuck. But no, the Loonies was over there. They
Speaker 4: were signed, they were saying to That's how Jay found
Speaker 4: Jay was over a new tribe because Mike mccott bought
Speaker 4: rap a Lot over there because they was looking for
Speaker 4: new distribution, right because they was with Priority for a minute.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they got new distribution and they went over there
Speaker 1: and Mike mccott brought him over there and they had
Speaker 1: That's how he found Yuck Mo because they was in
Speaker 1: the studio and he said, man, you know, smoke a
Speaker 1: lot needed to be rap a lot rap a you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Went over there and sold the
Speaker 1: Gazigion records with them. You know, J Prince is a boss,
Speaker 1: another boss, you know what I mean. Cool dude, Man.
Speaker 4: They never met the brother I met Scarface.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I know, facing them from from back in
Speaker 5: the back of the day when Ate and you know
Speaker 5: he was on the album and Too Deep the music
Speaker 5: drive by out.
Speaker 4: But we used to do a lot of touring together.
Speaker 4: But I actually met Jay Princeton, actually had the opportunity
Speaker 4: to spend time with him. That was through Big Mike situations,
Speaker 4: something serious album, you know what I'm saying, And they
Speaker 4: kind of fell out on some gangs. I just recently
Speaker 4: seen an interview yeah. You know what I'm saying. I'm like, Damn,
Speaker 4: this is one of the only few cats I heard
Speaker 4: speak the way he speaks. Because you know that other dude,
Speaker 4: what's the name, Charleston White? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 4: that nigga reckless tongue. He reckless tongue. Anyway. But when
Speaker 4: I heard when I seen the Big Mic, you know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying, and the Jay Princeton, they was on
Speaker 4: some real live gangster shit, you know.
Speaker 1: And a lot of people don't know. You know, when
Speaker 1: I first started, before I even knew you bo, I
Speaker 1: heard a box you with for the for the boo
Speaker 1: oh yeah, for the squabble gang.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's I mean, that's how I established myself in
Speaker 4: the gang world. You feel what I'm saying. I'm I'm
Speaker 4: proud to say I ain't never took no other black
Speaker 4: man life. You feel what I'm saying. I never took
Speaker 4: no other black man. Know what I'm saying. I ain't
Speaker 4: never been one of those killer types. Just you know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying. I was raised in church and wasn't it.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. But there's a shipload of
Speaker 4: killers who ran into me. You feel what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: And one thing about what I call pistol gangsters. You
Speaker 4: were always cassing without a pistol. Oh yeah, moment, Oh yeah.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Oh yeah, And.
Speaker 4: That's how that's how I got my reputation. I got
Speaker 4: my rotation from my big homies, you know, Style and
Speaker 4: reeseye Cup coming to get in the cup. You know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying, Come pick a nigga up. You know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying. I got somebody. I got somebody for
Speaker 4: you cud to come socer on real quick. You know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying. They'll take me around here to beat up.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. At this time, I'm young.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. They got me beating up
Speaker 4: niggas at Polly. You know what I'm saying. I'm going
Speaker 4: to Guardie's Roosevelt.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I got mine me socking
Speaker 1: out there Polly. But that's what I always been on.
Speaker 4: And I always had an advantage because, like I said,
Speaker 4: Pops was Steppops was military, so step Pop showed me
Speaker 4: Judo moves when I was fucking eight nine years old.
Speaker 4: See what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I learned. Yeah I had.
Speaker 5: I was a little skinny motherfucker fighting big motherfuckers for
Speaker 5: whatever reason.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I think it was just the heart.
Speaker 4: But then I got good.
Speaker 5: And then especially you know what I'm saying, coming from
Speaker 5: the Old County, the nine, the nine thousand, flow in
Speaker 5: the Crypt forty eight hundred, you know, all through Way
Speaker 5: Side wayst Side, North Supermax. Uh, you know what I mean,
Speaker 5: all that shit East Max, all that shit, Biscal Loose Center,
Speaker 5: all that shit.
Speaker 4: That's when a nigga got good. I think, you know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying. Not being one of those types helped
Speaker 4: me to number one, establish the fact that I've never
Speaker 4: lost a fight. It ain't it ain't one. I can
Speaker 4: look in the camera and say, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 4: it ain't one human being that has ever outside of
Speaker 4: my daddy with my ass. I ain't got my ass. Well,
Speaker 4: oh wait, no, I take that back, La County. Sheares
Speaker 4: beat the fuck out of me. Yeah no, I ain't
Speaker 4: got Actually I mean I ain't got my ass little,
Speaker 4: but I done lost my legs. They actually cuffed me
Speaker 4: to the rails and head my my legs open, took
Speaker 4: turns kicking me in my nuts?
Speaker 1: Are you seriously?
Speaker 4: I wasn't never supposed to have kids, Doug. I wasn't
Speaker 4: never supposed to have kid Then motherfucker's handcuffed me to
Speaker 4: both rails like this, you know what I'm saying. And
Speaker 4: one deputy grabbed deputy I remember his name, Deputy fucking
Speaker 4: King from the goon squad. He grabbed this pants leg
Speaker 4: and my shit, and the other deputy grabbed this pants
Speaker 4: leg and they snatched my legs open. And then motherfuckers
Speaker 4: walked by, took turns at like three of them kicked
Speaker 4: me in my nuts. You know what I'm saying, Nigga.
Speaker 4: On the third one, I actually went out and I
Speaker 4: woke up in HOJJ. They had AHOJJ steal. I was
Speaker 4: on the female side in the pregnancy thing. They had
Speaker 4: me on one of them pregnancy gurneys to have my
Speaker 4: legs strapped open because my nuts had swollen up so big.
Speaker 4: And you know what I'm saying, I wasn't even pissing blood.
Speaker 4: It was just blood leaking out of my deck. Damn.
Speaker 4: You feel what I'm saying. They like fucked me up,
Speaker 4: bad dog. And I wasn't never supposed to have kid.
Speaker 4: That's why I got out and just had a gang
Speaker 4: of kid because they told me I wasn't gonna never
Speaker 4: have here.
Speaker 1: And this is crazy, man, what these motherfuckers get away with?
Speaker 6: Dog?
Speaker 4: I remember men eight, we was at the had this
Speaker 4: club and captain of VMW I remember that. Yeah, he
Speaker 4: was over there in Santana blocker.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: And you know that's this is when the dress the
Speaker 5: dress code was was was was was a big deal,
Speaker 5: you know what I mean. But you know us, we
Speaker 5: kakis and T shirts every day, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: So we threw on some actually jeans. I think those
Speaker 5: jeans probably was Levi eys and a button down shirt,
Speaker 5: you know what I mean, and some rid of boots.
Speaker 5: We used to call him ride of boots. That's that's
Speaker 5: the Hancho boots. This when eight first start growing his braids.
Speaker 5: So we knew the police by name too. Blondie Bookman,
Speaker 5: you know what I mean, Ramirez, you know what I mean. Yeah,
Speaker 5: So they they they work in the club, they working
Speaker 5: the VFW.
Speaker 4: We push up.
Speaker 5: We're feeling good, you know what I'm saying. This Woo,
Speaker 5: I'm the dude with the boy. He had short waves
Speaker 5: back then, but he said, no, y'all can't get in.
Speaker 5: Get off the line, you know what I'm saying. And
Speaker 5: I'm like, man, what's up?
Speaker 4: But mean while we can't get in, you know what
Speaker 4: I'm saying, he like, get the fuck out my line,
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. Because he got the nappy
Speaker 4: as braids. I'm like, man, we dressed cool. You know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying. Let us in the club. You know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying. Nigga talked around and fired my shit up.
Speaker 4: I am skip the fuck off the light. You know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying. That eight tripping like hate aim fighter, damn.
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying. Now, we can't do nothing
Speaker 5: for taking on the chin. Everybody in line like, oh,
Speaker 5: that's fucked up. But I say that because the ship
Speaker 5: that the police used to get away with back then
Speaker 5: on me is straight up abuse.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, they're straight up abuse. They I tell people
Speaker 4: all the time. You know, it's for cell phones, and
Speaker 4: it's because of the Internet that people now see what
Speaker 4: the fuck I grew up seeing Signal Hill police killed
Speaker 4: my cousin. You know what I'm saying. My second cousin,
Speaker 4: Ron settles. Certain that was your cousin. That was my cousin.
Speaker 4: There's certain cities you just don't go to. Signal Hill
Speaker 4: was one of them. Yep, they they over, but they
Speaker 4: arrested him over a butter knife and then they're ended
Speaker 4: up beating him to death and hanging him and didn't
Speaker 4: know that he was on his way to play for
Speaker 4: the Dallas Cowboys. That's the only reason the shit blew
Speaker 4: up and went major controversy and national headlines. You feel
Speaker 4: what I'm saying, because he was a football star on
Speaker 4: his way somewhere. He wasn't a gang bang and he
Speaker 4: wasn't none of that. You know what I'm saying. Y'all
Speaker 4: just wanted to put him in that category. College get
Speaker 4: this good story on college student. But you know what
Speaker 4: I'm saying, I've been I've been seeing that. You know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying. I haven't seen bowline them strip niggas down.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, Lady mad Dog do some shit.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. I know they asked by names.
Speaker 4: They was five Long Beach Police, Long Beach Police. Once
Speaker 4: upon a time they had a thing, a second thing
Speaker 4: called Metro. These motherfuckers actually gang bang. Half of them
Speaker 4: roll with the ensigns and the other half roll with
Speaker 4: the twenties. And they would run around in metro police
Speaker 4: and fucking black I remember, in black Chevy cards police cards,
Speaker 4: and then motherfuckers would ride by police and throw up
Speaker 4: a gang signed you like, they would throw insigne up
Speaker 4: to you and dare you to throw twenties back up
Speaker 4: to them, and you throw twenties back up, and they
Speaker 4: finish jack you up, fuck you up, and then drop
Speaker 4: you off somewhere insane hood and let the niggas fuck
Speaker 4: you up. And this was the police, and that's why
Speaker 4: a lot of Long Beach gang violeis end up escalating
Speaker 4: the way it is. Police was doing a lot of
Speaker 4: that shit. You know what I'm saying out there, busting
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, pulling over. I remember who
Speaker 4: was a stutter box, the homie stutter Box. One time
Speaker 4: police pulled him over, jacked him up, took his motherfucking
Speaker 4: lack and was riding around the hood in his lock.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, The motherfucking police. You know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying, Like like just crazy shit like that
Speaker 4: was going on, you know, that and people starting to
Speaker 4: be able to witness it now with the Trayvon Martin's
Speaker 4: and that that that Eric Gardner's and whatnot. You know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying, But shit, that's that's been something I've
Speaker 4: been seeing since childbirth, really on a regular basis, On
Speaker 4: a regular basis, you finna get your ass whooped. Beat
Speaker 4: the fuck up, you know what I'm saying. Just as
Speaker 4: you ran, If you act like you want to run,
Speaker 4: evenna beat the fuck out of you. They don't give
Speaker 4: a fuck how old you is. Motherfucker's beat you in
Speaker 4: front of your Now. I seen motherfucker the homie Jelly
Speaker 4: Loaf from Nineteenth Street Rest in Peace. I remember they
Speaker 4: beat him up in front of his mama, the whole family,
Speaker 4: with the whole street, all the nineteen in line standing outside,
Speaker 4: the neighbors and all that. Like y'all don't need to
Speaker 4: be doing that, Moore like that. You think they stopped,
Speaker 4: You think they gave a fuck. Hell fucking no, Long
Speaker 4: Beach police beat up another police. Goddamnit, y'all don't remember
Speaker 4: that hunts and scanders when Long Beach police beat up
Speaker 4: their black Orange County police and through the window over
Speaker 4: there with the poneag chip. But see that's what it
Speaker 4: was two days. You know, back in the days.
Speaker 5: You know, my grandmama live like over there Lyndon and Smith.
Speaker 5: It was not vers in Long Beach, you know what
Speaker 5: I mean. When I first started going to school in
Speaker 5: Long Beach, it was you know, white people, Asian people,
Speaker 5: someone's you know, black and Mexicans. I mean, so this
Speaker 5: is when I got introduced to those type of folks,
Speaker 5: you know what I mean. But I remember as a kid,
Speaker 5: like I'm talking about like probably like ten years old,
Speaker 5: eleven years old, white people putting nooses and people black
Speaker 5: people yard in Long.
Speaker 4: Beach, you know, I mean, so they had they had
Speaker 4: the little it's a little statue they used to have.
Speaker 4: It looked like a jockey, looked like a jockey. And
Speaker 4: the motherfucker used to be hold the land. He used
Speaker 4: to hold the lander, a little black jockey hold the lander.
Speaker 4: That's what. They took the lantern out and they put
Speaker 4: the rope on it like a noose. So you gotta
Speaker 4: saying that motherfucker, yo, your goddamn y'all.
Speaker 5: Yeah, so you gotta think once again, you know, when
Speaker 5: we jump off the porch and we having babies and
Speaker 5: our babies having babies. And you know now you got
Speaker 5: little ensigns in twenties and one nines and West coasts
Speaker 5: and you know what I'm saying, count the niggas living
Speaker 5: over here and watch niggas. You know what I'm saying
Speaker 5: that you got the bricks on the.
Speaker 4: North, the old hoods, the folk hood, folk ConA blocks,
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, The boulevards, you know what
Speaker 4: I'm saying, all of that. Now, you got the mag mathiears,
Speaker 4: the what's that over there? Pyramount, the two ends. You
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. Whatever that's called over that way?
Speaker 5: Yeah, oh by the winter stithts for over there, yeah North,
Speaker 5: something like that. You know what I'm saying, This all
Speaker 5: type of shitiggas.
Speaker 1: It changed.
Speaker 5: You know those police that was putting putting nooses and
Speaker 5: ship out while we was bread and you know, gang bangers.
Speaker 4: They was bred Nazis, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: So that's y'all pole least all them dudes moved to
Speaker 5: Orange County, you know what I'm saying, because y'all got
Speaker 5: y'all own entity and everything for this La County.
Speaker 4: Long Beach is LA County, But Long Beach is Long Beach.
Speaker 1: No Orange County tried to buy a Long Beach.
Speaker 4: Yeah, they got their own Section eight. They got their
Speaker 4: own county said No.
Speaker 5: Long Beach School District is not LA Unified School district.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. They got their own thing, everything,
Speaker 4: even their own taxes, got their own taxes exactly. Even
Speaker 4: though it's LA County, Long Beach taxes is different than
Speaker 4: the rest of LA. It's nothing affiliated to LA.
Speaker 1: Man. You know motherfuckers that came into arrested meat Dog.
Speaker 1: A motherfucker had arrested meat Dog over some bullshit from
Speaker 1: a warrant from nineteen ninety two. My nigga I was
Speaker 1: in New Mexico playing football. My nigga, I was Mexico
Speaker 1: playing football. I wouldn't even here. And then motherfucker said, well,
Speaker 1: you got a warrant for the thing I say. I
Speaker 1: wasn't even driving the ninety two dog. Why motherfucker's arrested
Speaker 1: meat dog. Nigga took mine heeler because I asthma right
Speaker 1: and was in the front seat. Spring that my fuckers,
Speaker 1: like you got any dope in here is weeding here?
Speaker 4: He was.
Speaker 1: Out dogs prad all my shit out just and I'm
Speaker 1: back there, mother fucking tied up. He tied him. But
Speaker 1: thank God for this one brother. Man. It came over
Speaker 1: the house because I cussed him out the day before
Speaker 1: over some bullshit, right cussed him out. He showed up
Speaker 1: the next day at my door by the way that
Speaker 1: you know you hadn't the rest that warn't for your arrest, Norman,
Speaker 1: And I said, man, get the fuck out. He ain't
Speaker 1: got no thing. I tried to close my door right
Speaker 1: he put his foot in there. I looked outside. He said,
Speaker 1: some little nigga calls this little Mexican dude ten ninety
Speaker 1: nine something like that. Next thing I know, man, it
Speaker 1: was a police all around my house and I'm out
Speaker 1: there with my shirt off. The big black nigga, I'm
Speaker 1: out there like this. This one brother came on a
Speaker 1: motorcycle and they was hired to him. Man, because he said, no,
Speaker 1: all this ain't going down. You know what I mean,
Speaker 1: They arrest the motherfully. They took me down a long
Speaker 1: beach and shit, man.
Speaker 4: That's why I don't understand how people even voted for Biden.
Speaker 1: Righting is horrible.
Speaker 4: Well, see what I was saying, People don't realize is
Speaker 4: before see people, but he horrible. Now, I been knew
Speaker 4: this motherfucker was horrible. I knew he was horrible before
Speaker 4: he became vice president. This is the same motherfucker who
Speaker 4: who drafted the search and seize the search seize law
Speaker 4: to where the police is able to just roll by
Speaker 4: a group of niggas and jack you up. Hey, what
Speaker 4: y'all doing against the wall boy? Joe Biden wrote that
Speaker 4: law jump out boys, see, he saying he made it
Speaker 4: way for the jump out boys and the police to
Speaker 4: be able to do.
Speaker 1: What they do. Yeah.
Speaker 5: See, that's what I say about your police out there.
Speaker 5: You know what I mean, All them grown Nazi motherfuckers
Speaker 5: moved to Orange County, Seal Beach, Huntington Beach, you know
Speaker 5: what I mean, Westminster own up the coast of Mason.
Speaker 5: All of that they kids, is still policing y'all. Now
Speaker 5: you got a lot of Mexican police, and it's a
Speaker 5: heavy Mexican black situation with the longos and the cribs,
Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying, and all this extra shit,
Speaker 5: you know what I mean, that's the politics y'all be
Speaker 5: dealing with on that end.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think you know what I'm saying. That's that's
Speaker 4: all by design too, you know what I'm saying. See,
Speaker 4: I look at I love looking at life in the
Speaker 4: gray area. I don't look at it as black and white.
Speaker 4: I love staying in the gray area, you know what
Speaker 4: I'm saying. So when I look at the fact that
Speaker 4: they've hired all these Hispanic police, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: I know what the religion is, I know what the
Speaker 4: gray area is. You know what I'm saying. We can't
Speaker 4: have them partner it up with the niggas. We got
Speaker 4: to create some spiration right there. So what's the best
Speaker 4: way to create separation? Put one on one side of
Speaker 4: the fence and the other one on the other side
Speaker 4: of the fence, and you start employing a gang of
Speaker 4: Hispanics as police and put them where to police where
Speaker 4: in the black community, in the minority community.
Speaker 1: You feel what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: And unfortunately it's created the type of environment to where
Speaker 4: it's creating division within their own race, you know what
Speaker 4: I'm saying. Which is the sad part about it, because
Speaker 4: it's a mind state that you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 4: they put you in. You know what I'm saying, They
Speaker 4: put you in a mind state to where nothing is
Speaker 4: more important than that.
Speaker 1: That blue code. That's it.
Speaker 4: It's the structure life. You feel what I'm saying. And
Speaker 4: once they got them in that state of mind, you
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, your race even becomes secondary.
Speaker 1: That's what they teach you.
Speaker 4: This is why you have so many quote unquote house
Speaker 4: nigga ask police because part of their training is part
Speaker 4: of the training is who you are as a person
Speaker 4: before you came in here is irrelevant. It's who we
Speaker 4: turn you into. That's what's only thing important. And those
Speaker 4: brothers and sisters who are part of what you have become,
Speaker 4: that's what's important. The code that we live by, that's
Speaker 4: what's important. Definitely at the doctor, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: So they they create, they create a division, you know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying, within the community as they always have.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. You know, the police come
Speaker 4: from the plantation, That's what they come. That's how the
Speaker 4: whole system was formed. You know what I'm saying. For
Speaker 4: them wanting to be slave chasers, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 4: And then we can keep your slaves in line.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: Then it went from that till you know, they got
Speaker 4: a little bit of freedom. But we can regulate them,
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, and police them. You know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying, Why in their communities? You know what
Speaker 4: I'm saying, Look at the term police. When you police something,
Speaker 4: you clean it up. You feel what I'm saying. You
Speaker 4: think they ever felt that they needed to clean up
Speaker 4: their own community. You think they ever felt they needed
Speaker 4: to clean up their own race?
Speaker 1: Ever?
Speaker 4: Fuck no, it's twenty twenty three, and you still can't
Speaker 4: get them to admit that we need reparations and what
Speaker 4: the fuck they undid to us? They still won't even
Speaker 4: admit that. They still every time we bring up slavery,
Speaker 4: they throw another tragic event that doesn't happen to another
Speaker 4: race up in there to die of drown. Praise slavery,
Speaker 4: but it ain't. Nobody went through four hundred years. I
Speaker 4: don't even think people even calculate that.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: Well, when you look in the mirror and you look
Speaker 4: and you know, when you look at your motherfucking id,
Speaker 4: the next person look at your fucking id, and you
Speaker 4: see how old the fuck you are. I don't give
Speaker 4: fuck how old you are. If you able to look
Speaker 4: at your I D I need you to multiply your
Speaker 4: age four hundred years.
Speaker 1: Into that many years. Well, it's funny that you land
Speaker 1: on that, man. California panel was called for billions of
Speaker 1: reparations for the centers of slaves.
Speaker 4: Don't don't don't fall into that trap. That shit sound good.
Speaker 4: That's one of Newsome things right there. But that's nothing
Speaker 4: but a panel. That's not love. I seen that, and
Speaker 4: I hate that people put false advertisement information out there
Speaker 4: because now they're gonna have black people running around California
Speaker 4: thinking we get at one point two million dollar check
Speaker 4: and ain't no shit even closer like it happened. It's
Speaker 4: a it's an analyzation. Let me tell you. Gavin Newsom
Speaker 4: put together a panel to do research, a reparations research panel,
Speaker 4: and to come up with a determined nation to where
Speaker 4: if if we were to get reparations approved, if the
Speaker 4: government decided we're gonna give our reparations, how much would
Speaker 4: they end up coming to. That's what that is right there. Well,
Speaker 4: you know, and that's the number that they came that's
Speaker 4: the number that they came out of there.
Speaker 1: One of the things that was interesting to me. They
Speaker 1: wanted to only give it the people that was over
Speaker 1: seventy two years of age. Well, they here's the thing
Speaker 1: about it. I wouldn't take it no way. You wouldn't
Speaker 1: take the bread. Fuck No, don't you know what I'm saying. Listen,
Speaker 1: do the math. Okay, there's no fucking way, my nigga.
Speaker 1: You finla owe me five hundred dollars for six months,
Speaker 1: six years, seven years, eight years, and then when I
Speaker 1: run into you, you hit me off with a hundred
Speaker 1: and fife and oh yeah, yeah cool, But you on
Speaker 1: dodged me and said fuck me for my five hundred
Speaker 1: dollars this whole time. If motherfuckers don't sit back and
Speaker 1: do the math on what forty acres amount to, we
Speaker 1: just feel like a mule.
Speaker 4: Fuck a fucking mule. We won't even throw the mule
Speaker 4: up in there. Fucking mule. Give me forty acres of
Speaker 4: land in motherfucking California, and you tell me where you
Speaker 4: find forty acres of land in motherfucking California for less
Speaker 4: than twenty million dollars, Right, less than twenty motherfucking million
Speaker 4: dollars California in California. So don't come with no motherfucking
Speaker 4: bullshit ass number that one point two something, especially in
Speaker 4: twenty twenty three when motherfuckers are selling Cadillac Escalades for
Speaker 4: over a one hundred thousand motherfucking dollars. Now in the
Speaker 4: new motherfucking what is the new Challenger or something that
Speaker 4: they finish come out with, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 4: or the other new one like this a Dodge one
Speaker 4: hundred thousand. You feel what I'm saying. You got Bougatti's
Speaker 4: costing a million dollars. It's a million dollars for a
Speaker 4: car now, But you're finish, give me one point two Basically,
Speaker 4: you're giving me a fucking card some game show ass shit.
Speaker 4: Don't treat me like no motherfucking game show contendent, Not
Speaker 4: for my four hundred years of motherfucking suffering and what
Speaker 4: the fuck my people went through. You're not gonna give
Speaker 4: me no game contestant.
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying. You know, it's the same
Speaker 5: thing you don't mean, like with the PPP and the
Speaker 5: ed ED. You know what I'm saying, it's the shame
Speaker 5: our people go god down, going crazy.
Speaker 4: What they what's gonna have to happen, Bro. The only
Speaker 4: thing that will ever compensate that is if they set
Speaker 4: up a separate financial system.
Speaker 1: For our people.
Speaker 4: Right, we cannot be integrated into their financial system and
Speaker 4: ever reach a level of equality or equity. Why because
Speaker 4: in the end, there's a chosen few that control their
Speaker 4: whole entire money system. And those chosen few can't be persuaded,
Speaker 4: They can't be deterred. They give a fuck about your opinion,
Speaker 4: They give a fuck about the breath you breathe. Some
Speaker 4: of these motherfuckers got so much money that they'll tell
Speaker 4: you straight to your face. We don't talk to blacks,
Speaker 4: meet with blacks, and tell you right to your face. No,
Speaker 4: I don't talk to your kind, and we don't meet
Speaker 4: with your kind. Oh, those sorries exist. I feel what
Speaker 4: I'm saying, and if those who control that particular money system,
Speaker 4: those people will never see us worthy enough to be
Speaker 4: on the same level as them. See, and that's what
Speaker 4: you have to realize.
Speaker 1: See.
Speaker 4: Reparations is a I feel sorry for what I did.
Speaker 4: You feel what I'm saying. Don't give me, No, I
Speaker 4: feel sorry for what I did. Give me something. I'm
Speaker 4: gonna put you all in the game.
Speaker 1: Like we are.
Speaker 4: See, that's a whole different mind state, bro. Yeah, that's
Speaker 4: a whole different mind state from I'm gonna compensate you
Speaker 4: for what I did versus I'm gonna put you in
Speaker 4: the game, my nigga. Right, you know what I'm saying. Right,
Speaker 4: whenever you have to compensate and pay up a bill,
Speaker 4: you do not happily pay no bill. Name one bill
Speaker 4: that you happily pay. You don't happily pay no bill,
Speaker 4: No bills. Reparation is a bill that we're looking to
Speaker 4: collect on. So they're not gonna be happy in paying it.
Speaker 4: So they're gonna try to give us the minimum. They're
Speaker 4: gonna try to break it down. They're gonna try to
Speaker 4: put panels together. They're gonna do percentages and break it
Speaker 4: down to the scarce minimum of what we can possibly
Speaker 4: do for these people. Instead of just giving us equality,
Speaker 4: just giving us equity, right, give us some equity in
Speaker 4: the planet and what we need. The only way we
Speaker 4: get equity is we get our own separate money system
Speaker 4: like other nations have. Us as a people gotta be
Speaker 4: able to you know, handle it, you know what I mean,
Speaker 4: Get a little bit of money, ma'am. Fuckers go fuck
Speaker 4: it off money and then when that money gone, the
Speaker 4: mother start bumping it.
Speaker 1: But you know what, no, chill, the thing is man.
Speaker 1: Even when they said that they want to give it
Speaker 1: the people that were seventy two and over all three
Speaker 1: of us aren't seventy two. But we have been greatly
Speaker 1: impacted by systemic racism. Yes, and we are behind. I
Speaker 1: think it should be eavery for black persons.
Speaker 5: It should be. Regardless of the should be, it should be.
Speaker 5: I don't think it should be handed out at one time.
Speaker 5: I think it should be, like you said, in the
Speaker 5: system too well.
Speaker 4: A system integrated and integrated into a system that will
Speaker 4: help change the dynamics of the situation. You feel what
Speaker 4: I'm saying, because if you just give people individual money,
Speaker 4: the number one thing you're gonna do is create separatism
Speaker 4: amongst a race that's already too separated. You feel what
Speaker 4: I'm saying. We already too separated. And ninety nine point
Speaker 4: nine percent of our separation it's financial. Yeah, we got
Speaker 4: black people who get money, they develop the mind state
Speaker 4: of Jermaine dupri and to change. Oh, I don't understand
Speaker 4: the language of people would show money they get to
Speaker 4: Kanye West, Oh, I don't listen to people less successful
Speaker 4: than me. You will only hear a black person say
Speaker 4: some shit like you feel what I'm saying. You will
Speaker 4: only hear that. But then they turn around and say
Speaker 4: praise God out the same Bible that tells you you
Speaker 4: can learn a lot from a food. Yeah, you can't
Speaker 4: fool a fool though. Yeah you feel what I'm saying,
Speaker 4: But you're gonna turn around and you can't conversate with
Speaker 4: the motherfucker who ain't got sure. Were the only race
Speaker 4: of people who feel that getting to a certain financial
Speaker 4: status makes us better than other people, not our character,
Speaker 4: not our principles. Now of that the majority of us
Speaker 4: feel is a financial base. If you don't believe it,
Speaker 4: look at how we look at who we look to
Speaker 4: for our leaders. Look at who the majority of our
Speaker 4: black people look to for advice. They look to black
Speaker 4: people with black wealth, black fame. You feel what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: They don't turn to the Uncle Simo. You know what
Speaker 4: I'm saying. They don't turn to You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 4: Uncle Charles. You know what I'm saying. They turned to
Speaker 4: Jay jiggerb Bron Bryan. You feel what I'm saying, they
Speaker 4: turn the nas You know what I'm saying, that's who,
Speaker 4: That's who they That's who they turned to Will Smith.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, They turned the Viola Davis,
Speaker 4: they turn to Oprah Winfrey. They turn all these different
Speaker 4: people as if these people, because you have reached a
Speaker 4: certain financial status, you have found the key to life,
Speaker 4: a successful life, you know what I'm saying. But at
Speaker 4: the same time, there's nobody who you know, what I'm
Speaker 4: saying really embodies the notion that we don't need finances,
Speaker 4: we need equity, right or we can go on see money,
Speaker 4: money you can spend I said, we can go on
Speaker 4: for hours.
Speaker 1: Man, we will have to have. You gonna hear again, man,
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, we can go off ours. We're gonna have
Speaker 1: to have You're gonna hear again. Man, I'm gonna let you.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna let you finish up your thoughts. Though, what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, if money we don't, we don't. We don't.
Speaker 4: We don't need we don't need money to resolve our
Speaker 4: issues and our problems. You feel what I'm saying, we
Speaker 4: need the changing of the way people think. See that
Speaker 4: makes a big difference. See, I can give you some
Speaker 4: money and still look down on you. You know what
Speaker 4: I'm saying. Like I seen the thing the other day
Speaker 4: to where the dude who owns uh Neiman Marcus, the
Speaker 4: president of Neming Marcus. They have another subdivision of neiming
Speaker 4: Marks is called Nemen Marcus Off the Wall or something
Speaker 4: something like that, but it's basically like Norsetrum's rack where
Speaker 4: they sell the lower quality. And he was saying that
Speaker 4: he's gonna shut down all them departments because he don't
Speaker 4: want nobody who has to shop on a budget shopping
Speaker 4: at Nemen Marcus. He don't want to deal with nobody
Speaker 4: who has to think about price or anything. He wants
Speaker 4: to deal with exclusively the super wealthy. So they even
Speaker 4: eliminate in certain stores so they can keep people who
Speaker 4: perpetrate being rich, you know. And then I was listening
Speaker 4: to a thing where this one guy was saying that
Speaker 4: every single line or label, like Gucci pride in all them,
Speaker 4: they make two different lines. They make a line for
Speaker 4: the people who want to seem rich, and then they
Speaker 4: make a line for the actual rich. You feel what
Speaker 4: I'm saying, It's two different things that they do. And
Speaker 4: if you would go through that don't of business financial
Speaker 4: spending money to separate yourself from a certain class of people.
Speaker 4: You feel what I'm saying, where they would spend money
Speaker 4: to separate themselfs from a certain class of people. Then
Speaker 4: it doesn't matter how much money we have, you know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying. What's that old saying, You're steal a nigga.
Speaker 4: You steal a nigga. What we need is a change
Speaker 4: of how people think about us. Don't give me no money,
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Give me.
Speaker 4: Respect, give me love, give me honor, give me equity,
Speaker 4: give me equality. Don't just hand me some bread and
Speaker 4: think I'm gonna be happy. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: I'm not a bitch, I'm not a prostitute. I'm not
Speaker 4: a whore. You just can't hit me off with no
Speaker 4: cash and say, run your little black ass off. Okay,
Speaker 4: we gave you a little reparations, y'all. Niggas cool. You
Speaker 4: feel what I'm saying, But i'ma still get the treated
Speaker 4: the same way when I go into the fucking bank,
Speaker 4: no matter how much fucking money. You feel what I'm saying,
Speaker 4: you don't believe it. Look at fucking Bill Cosy Look
Speaker 4: at Kanye West, Look at all the other blacks that
Speaker 4: they take down, Look at Kyrie Irvin. It don't matter
Speaker 4: how much fucking money you got. If you don't have
Speaker 4: the fucking respect, then you still ain't shit. So don't
Speaker 4: give me no fucking money. Give me my respect, give
Speaker 4: me my proper just doue. Give me equality, Give me
Speaker 4: equity in this life, this thing that we call life.
Speaker 4: I want equity in this planet, in this world. You
Speaker 4: feel what I'm saying. I don't want you just to
Speaker 4: hand me no cash. I can get my own money
Speaker 4: if you give me some equity, if you give me
Speaker 4: true equality, Because when we had it, what did we
Speaker 4: have even when we didn't have true, true equality, when
Speaker 4: you didn't worry about giving me no money and you
Speaker 4: gave me the space and the respect and let me
Speaker 4: do what I do?
Speaker 1: That's what I did.
Speaker 4: I built Black Wall Street. Oh yeah, you feel what
Speaker 4: I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I built.
Speaker 4: I've built a whole financial system that made y'all so
Speaker 4: jealous and panic that y'all elp, y'all have to destroy it.
Speaker 4: So if you want to give me something, if you
Speaker 4: want to give me something, give me back that opportunity
Speaker 4: for that system again to set up that system. I
Speaker 4: don't want your money. Don't hand me your money. Give
Speaker 4: me the opportunity to freely, freely trade the way you
Speaker 4: got on the same equal level that you trade on.
Speaker 4: Why I can't go nowhere and find a gang of
Speaker 4: African products everywhere? I can go find Chinatown. I can
Speaker 4: go find little Italy, I can go find little Armenia.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, Go find little Ethiopia. On
Speaker 4: fair facts. That shit five blocks long on two sides
Speaker 4: of the street, six seven restaurants, and that's what you
Speaker 4: consider a little fucking Ethiopia. You feel what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: How big is Chinatown?
Speaker 1: Though?
Speaker 4: Do you know what type of state of mind that
Speaker 4: builds for a Chinese person in this country? Do you
Speaker 4: know what type of pride they have and when they
Speaker 4: see things like that? So it's don't give me no money,
Speaker 4: give me equity, you know what I'm saying, Give me respect,
Speaker 4: give me love, give me honor, give me the old
Speaker 4: things first, and I go get my own motherfucking bread.
Speaker 4: I don't need you man like.
Speaker 1: We definitely man for the sake of time, because I
Speaker 1: think the podcasts only hold so much they don't allow
Speaker 1: you to post so much. I think where we at now,
Speaker 1: Brian two fifteen. Man on that note, Man, we go
Speaker 1: end it, Man, But I definitely got to have you
Speaker 1: back up here. Actually, you need your own podcast, man.
Speaker 1: I enjoy talking to you today.
Speaker 4: Yes, would would would I would love to explore into
Speaker 4: the podcast realm. I've been thinking about it because, you
Speaker 4: know what, I watch a lot of podcasts, and me
Speaker 4: watching other podcasts has motivated me to want to share
Speaker 4: some of the things that I've learned throughout my life,
Speaker 4: some of the knowledge that I've acquired, you know, because
Speaker 4: unlike most people, you know.
Speaker 1: I've always always always.
Speaker 4: Felt more proud about the fact that my homies think
Speaker 4: comes smart, more so than they think I'm down, more
Speaker 4: so than they think I can know how to sing right,
Speaker 4: more so than I know how to wrap. You feel
Speaker 4: what I'm saying. I love the fact that people appreciate
Speaker 4: my intelligence because I've worked so hard at mastering my intelligence.
Speaker 4: A lot of book reading. I feed my mind things
Speaker 4: that make me smarter. You feel what I'm saying. Ninety
Speaker 4: nine percent of the things that people are involved in
Speaker 4: I spent put it like this. I watch something educational
Speaker 4: seven fucking days a week. There's not one day goes
Speaker 4: by to where I don't feed myself something for my brain.
Speaker 4: I wouldn't give fucking We should national geographs.
Speaker 1: We should be looking at stuff and reading things that
Speaker 1: edify us. That's why I don't look at That's why
Speaker 1: I don't look at bullshit. I refuse to look at Yeah,
Speaker 1: I refuse to look at it. It smons it's all.
Speaker 1: It's all to dumb you down. That's what it's all
Speaker 1: really designed for.
Speaker 4: A lot of the stuff, even the people that they
Speaker 4: push out there, A lot of the people that y'all
Speaker 4: see get pushed out there and they get blown up
Speaker 4: for they podcasts and you see them get pushed out there.
Speaker 4: They get pushed out there because they feeding your brain
Speaker 4: a bunch of nonsense and bullshit. And that's what the
Speaker 4: powers that be want. They want your brain fed with
Speaker 4: nonsense and bullshit. You feel what I'm saying, That's what
Speaker 4: they want your brain fed with. Because if you fed
Speaker 4: with bullshit, then you miss everything that you're supposed to
Speaker 4: see that's really going on in this world, right you know? Real,
Speaker 4: like I said, you're missing you miss the fact that
Speaker 4: they building new apartments everywhere around California. Right, we got
Speaker 4: the largest homeless population right for real. Yeah, that's what
Speaker 4: I'm saying. You can get one shelter. You definitely have
Speaker 4: a train of thought man, that's needed out there. Man,
Speaker 4: and I appreciate having you on it Man and Chield.
Speaker 4: I appreciate you coming through in the collection day. Man
Speaker 4: when a Homie eight couldn't be there today. Man shout
Speaker 4: out to the homy Man.
Speaker 5: Man got to see for a second, because you know,
Speaker 5: get on back work, man, I got some other ship
Speaker 5: to take down.
Speaker 1: Yeah for sure. Man. On that note, Man, we out
Speaker 1: of here. Oh you know what before I go Boa,
Speaker 1: where can they find you at?
Speaker 4: On Instagram and all that bull Rock dot dev shack
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Speaker 4: You have a Twitter b O r o C just
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Speaker 4: than that, that's that's really all I.
Speaker 1: I really I have.
Speaker 4: You know, it's something finished with me. You can reach
Speaker 4: out at bow Rock b O r o C dot
Speaker 4: l b C at gmail dot com. You know you
Speaker 4: want to discuss any business or anything of that nature.
Speaker 1: There it is is you go get a lot of
Speaker 1: you go get a lot of people hear you up
Speaker 1: after this episode drop. I'm pretty sure it's gonna be
Speaker 1: a lot of people contacting you. Well.
Speaker 4: I would love to chop it up, you know. Like
Speaker 4: I said, Remember I told you before, I'm not trying
Speaker 4: to sway anybody's opinion. I just want to offer a
Speaker 4: different opinion. And that's a different way of thinking. I'm
Speaker 4: not telling you that my way of thinking is right, right.
Speaker 4: The only thing I ever wanted to do is just
Speaker 4: lay an option on the table to the yang to
Speaker 4: the yang and western norm Yeah, you have the ying
Speaker 4: to the yang. Yeah, you know what I'm saying. But
Speaker 4: I want you to you know, there's a line in
Speaker 4: between yeah yang. Yeah, that's the only thing. I'm lacing
Speaker 4: people up on the line in the middle that separates
Speaker 4: the ying and the yang. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: Pay attention to that line too, because little do people
Speaker 4: know that little bitty line in between the yin and
Speaker 4: the yang. Something's going on the yin and yang together,
Speaker 4: and it can also separate the yin and yang. You
Speaker 4: did that part well.
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