1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:04,280 Speaker 1: It's time to get inside the Giants Huddle on giants 2 00:00:04,280 --> 00:00:10,079 Speaker 1: dot Com, part of the Giants Podcast Network. Welcome to 3 00:00:10,119 --> 00:00:13,000 Speaker 1: the newest edition of The Giants Huddle podcast. My name 4 00:00:13,039 --> 00:00:17,119 Speaker 1: is John Schmilk. Today is our final of three interviews 5 00:00:17,160 --> 00:00:20,279 Speaker 1: with the giants three new coordinators. First we had Giant 6 00:00:20,320 --> 00:00:24,320 Speaker 1: Special teams coordinator Thomas mcgahey, Then we had Giants offensive 7 00:00:24,320 --> 00:00:28,920 Speaker 1: coordinator Mike Kafka, and then finally today Giants defensive coordinator. 8 00:00:29,080 --> 00:00:34,240 Speaker 1: Former Ravens defensive coordinator Don Wink Martindale Bob Popa, the 9 00:00:34,280 --> 00:00:37,519 Speaker 1: Voice of the Giants, conducted all three interviews. Before we 10 00:00:37,560 --> 00:00:40,360 Speaker 1: get going, just a reminder first, make sure you check 11 00:00:40,400 --> 00:00:44,400 Speaker 1: out our brand new podcast. It's called Draft Season. It 12 00:00:44,479 --> 00:00:47,800 Speaker 1: is a draft podcast. It is not Giants centric, but 13 00:00:47,880 --> 00:00:49,760 Speaker 1: it is draft centric. We take a look at all 14 00:00:49,760 --> 00:00:52,040 Speaker 1: the prospects, we break them down. We're in the midst 15 00:00:52,159 --> 00:00:55,080 Speaker 1: right now of doing our top five list on offense 16 00:00:55,120 --> 00:00:58,000 Speaker 1: and defense. Offense will post at the end of this week, 17 00:00:58,040 --> 00:01:00,200 Speaker 1: Defense next week, then we'll be at the end fail 18 00:01:00,280 --> 00:01:02,920 Speaker 1: combine as well as we continue to get you ready 19 00:01:03,120 --> 00:01:05,440 Speaker 1: and go through everything you need to know about the 20 00:01:05,520 --> 00:01:09,240 Speaker 1: NFL Draft. If you want to know everything about the prospects, 21 00:01:09,240 --> 00:01:11,280 Speaker 1: so you're ready for draft date. Draft Season is the 22 00:01:11,319 --> 00:01:14,240 Speaker 1: podcast for you. I am the host the experts that 23 00:01:14,319 --> 00:01:17,280 Speaker 1: joined us every week, or Tony Pauline, he's from Pro 24 00:01:17,360 --> 00:01:20,839 Speaker 1: Football Network and Eric Crocker a former NFL defensive back. 25 00:01:21,319 --> 00:01:23,880 Speaker 1: He was with the Jets one offseason, also played Arena 26 00:01:23,959 --> 00:01:26,600 Speaker 1: League and leagues like that. And he's also from the 27 00:01:26,640 --> 00:01:29,240 Speaker 1: Locked On NFL Draft podcast, so make sure you go 28 00:01:29,360 --> 00:01:32,679 Speaker 1: check that out. All right, let's get to our episode 29 00:01:32,800 --> 00:01:35,559 Speaker 1: of the Giants Huttle podcast are very own. Bob Popa, 30 00:01:35,560 --> 00:01:37,600 Speaker 1: the Voice of the Giants, had a chance to talk 31 00:01:37,720 --> 00:01:41,880 Speaker 1: to brand new Giants defensive coordinator Don Wink Martindale. Here's 32 00:01:41,920 --> 00:01:44,720 Speaker 1: that interview and we are joined by the new defensive 33 00:01:44,760 --> 00:01:48,000 Speaker 1: coordinator of the New York Football Giants, Don Wink Martinell 34 00:01:48,080 --> 00:01:51,520 Speaker 1: and uh coach. Welcome to New York, Welcome to the Giants. 35 00:01:51,880 --> 00:01:54,120 Speaker 1: How are excited are you to embark upon this new 36 00:01:54,200 --> 00:01:56,680 Speaker 1: chapter in your career? We can't wait. I mean, it's 37 00:01:56,760 --> 00:02:01,920 Speaker 1: it's a great experience for iconic franchise and we're so 38 00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:04,640 Speaker 1: excited to be here and looking forward to going to work. 39 00:02:05,120 --> 00:02:09,280 Speaker 1: Talk about getting a no coach table and kind of 40 00:02:09,280 --> 00:02:11,280 Speaker 1: being on his radar when he had to hire a 41 00:02:11,320 --> 00:02:15,280 Speaker 1: defensive coordinator. Did you guys have much of a relationship beforehand? 42 00:02:15,360 --> 00:02:17,720 Speaker 1: Not really. I mean we knew each other, you know, 43 00:02:17,919 --> 00:02:20,880 Speaker 1: combined things like that. And I've always respected him as 44 00:02:20,919 --> 00:02:24,880 Speaker 1: a offensive play caller because of his background, uh, you know, 45 00:02:24,919 --> 00:02:27,519 Speaker 1: working on both sides of the ball. So it really 46 00:02:27,560 --> 00:02:29,240 Speaker 1: excited me, and I was really happy for him that 47 00:02:29,240 --> 00:02:32,360 Speaker 1: he that he got this job. Uh, as you know, 48 00:02:32,440 --> 00:02:36,000 Speaker 1: I really I'm very fond of of of the giants 49 00:02:36,040 --> 00:02:39,959 Speaker 1: and and I just think it's a perfect fit for us. Yeah, 50 00:02:39,960 --> 00:02:43,440 Speaker 1: it's a franchise that's steeped in defensive tradition if you 51 00:02:43,520 --> 00:02:46,240 Speaker 1: go all the way back to Sam Huffing right on 52 00:02:46,400 --> 00:02:52,000 Speaker 1: through Michael Strahan and company. So pressure, you all you'd 53 00:02:52,040 --> 00:02:54,079 Speaker 1: like to bring the heat, You like to bring the pressure, 54 00:02:54,280 --> 00:02:56,520 Speaker 1: But can you just talk about sort of where your 55 00:02:56,520 --> 00:03:00,120 Speaker 1: philosophies have been developed? Well, I think that you know, 56 00:03:00,280 --> 00:03:03,600 Speaker 1: everybody says right away, pressure, but pressure can be viewed 57 00:03:03,639 --> 00:03:05,200 Speaker 1: in many forms, you know. I mean a lot of 58 00:03:05,280 --> 00:03:07,680 Speaker 1: a lot of the times that we had free erunners 59 00:03:08,880 --> 00:03:11,400 Speaker 1: in the past, it's just been on foreman pass rushes. 60 00:03:11,440 --> 00:03:15,320 Speaker 1: Now it's different guys coming. But I think that that's 61 00:03:15,360 --> 00:03:17,840 Speaker 1: our our trademark. We know how to attack pressures or 62 00:03:17,880 --> 00:03:20,520 Speaker 1: we know how to attack protections. And uh, and I'm 63 00:03:20,560 --> 00:03:24,919 Speaker 1: looking forward to it doing the same thing here my background. 64 00:03:25,680 --> 00:03:29,280 Speaker 1: You know, there's there's been quite a few in people 65 00:03:29,360 --> 00:03:32,160 Speaker 1: in my life that's really helped me, starting with Skip 66 00:03:32,160 --> 00:03:35,720 Speaker 1: and Lou Holtz uh at Notre Dame, and then you know, 67 00:03:35,800 --> 00:03:39,400 Speaker 1: it just I don't know how it happened. It just happened. 68 00:03:39,400 --> 00:03:42,400 Speaker 1: Then you know, you go Buddy Ryan and Al Davis 69 00:03:42,520 --> 00:03:46,040 Speaker 1: and and uh, you know it had Ozzie there in Baltimore, 70 00:03:46,160 --> 00:03:51,640 Speaker 1: and and you know, it just had a great encyclopedia 71 00:03:51,800 --> 00:03:54,440 Speaker 1: of people on how they see the game. And I 72 00:03:54,480 --> 00:03:58,800 Speaker 1: think what happens is is in today's football, because the 73 00:03:58,880 --> 00:04:01,360 Speaker 1: rule changes and everything else, that a lot of people 74 00:04:01,480 --> 00:04:04,160 Speaker 1: just want to play it safe. And I'm not built 75 00:04:04,200 --> 00:04:06,480 Speaker 1: that way. We're not built that way. We'd like to attack. 76 00:04:06,520 --> 00:04:09,880 Speaker 1: And and like I said earlier, pressure breaks pipes on 77 00:04:09,920 --> 00:04:12,560 Speaker 1: the on these offenses as well. And I just don't 78 00:04:12,560 --> 00:04:15,600 Speaker 1: want to sit back and say, Okay, let's see what 79 00:04:15,640 --> 00:04:18,320 Speaker 1: you got. I want them to sit back and see 80 00:04:18,360 --> 00:04:21,720 Speaker 1: what we have. Dictate the terms no doubt as opposed 81 00:04:21,760 --> 00:04:24,800 Speaker 1: to sort of read and reacting to what's coming at you. 82 00:04:25,440 --> 00:04:28,320 Speaker 1: Let's force them to do And isn't it in today's 83 00:04:28,400 --> 00:04:30,560 Speaker 1: NFL the teams that have success, you've got to get 84 00:04:30,560 --> 00:04:32,960 Speaker 1: the ball out of that quarterback's hands quickly or else 85 00:04:33,160 --> 00:04:35,800 Speaker 1: your toast right, no doubt, no doubt. And and it's 86 00:04:35,880 --> 00:04:38,719 Speaker 1: it's it gets worse every year that way. And you know, 87 00:04:38,839 --> 00:04:41,880 Speaker 1: it's not like right off the get go. You know, 88 00:04:41,920 --> 00:04:45,360 Speaker 1: we're not going into this thing blind. But you know, 89 00:04:45,960 --> 00:04:48,120 Speaker 1: we'll have a couple of games where we pressure a lot, 90 00:04:48,200 --> 00:04:49,719 Speaker 1: and then there'll be a game or two or we 91 00:04:49,760 --> 00:04:52,520 Speaker 1: don't pressure as much. And I think that's what makes 92 00:04:52,560 --> 00:04:55,200 Speaker 1: it great about our system, that is the scheme of 93 00:04:55,240 --> 00:04:58,360 Speaker 1: it all, is how flexible it is. Talk a little 94 00:04:58,360 --> 00:05:01,280 Speaker 1: bit about um coming here in New York. You mentioned 95 00:05:01,320 --> 00:05:05,479 Speaker 1: the tradition that exists here. Obviously part of your deep 96 00:05:05,600 --> 00:05:08,320 Speaker 1: dive now is studying the players that are currently on 97 00:05:08,400 --> 00:05:11,600 Speaker 1: the roster. Um how long a process is that as 98 00:05:11,640 --> 00:05:13,480 Speaker 1: you go through it. I mean, some of the guys 99 00:05:13,520 --> 00:05:16,080 Speaker 1: you obviously know from the league, as is right, It's 100 00:05:16,120 --> 00:05:18,240 Speaker 1: it's it is a deep dive, and it's get to 101 00:05:18,720 --> 00:05:21,200 Speaker 1: know him personally as well, you know, to find out 102 00:05:21,279 --> 00:05:24,480 Speaker 1: their makeup. You know, but you know, good football players, 103 00:05:24,480 --> 00:05:27,280 Speaker 1: a good football player, we all know that, and you 104 00:05:27,320 --> 00:05:28,839 Speaker 1: know it's our job to put them in the best 105 00:05:28,839 --> 00:05:31,800 Speaker 1: position to make plays because as we know, and I've 106 00:05:31,839 --> 00:05:36,000 Speaker 1: said often that this game always has been and always 107 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:39,200 Speaker 1: will be about the players we saw in the Super Bowl. 108 00:05:39,279 --> 00:05:41,040 Speaker 1: You know, we talked about you and I were talking 109 00:05:41,080 --> 00:05:44,359 Speaker 1: before we started this interview. Talk so much about offense, 110 00:05:44,400 --> 00:05:46,960 Speaker 1: talks so much about schemes, but at the end of 111 00:05:46,960 --> 00:05:51,320 Speaker 1: the day, it's and the Bengals couldn't get off the field. 112 00:05:52,160 --> 00:05:54,480 Speaker 1: The Rams got off the field when it mattered. Most 113 00:05:54,560 --> 00:05:56,520 Speaker 1: still comes down to making plays on that side of 114 00:05:56,560 --> 00:05:59,720 Speaker 1: the ball, no doubt, and and and players making plays too, 115 00:05:59,800 --> 00:06:03,000 Speaker 1: and and you just everybody think everybody in the building 116 00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:05,600 Speaker 1: new that Aaron Donald was going to be one. You know, 117 00:06:05,640 --> 00:06:08,039 Speaker 1: they they have three pass rushers there in that front 118 00:06:08,080 --> 00:06:11,000 Speaker 1: that uh, but Aaron Aaron Donald was not going to 119 00:06:11,080 --> 00:06:13,040 Speaker 1: be denied a Super Bowl ring. And you could just 120 00:06:13,080 --> 00:06:16,120 Speaker 1: see it the way it was rushing. Do fans and 121 00:06:16,200 --> 00:06:20,320 Speaker 1: even media sometimes get caught up in scheme three four 122 00:06:20,600 --> 00:06:23,359 Speaker 1: four three or is the game evolved to a point 123 00:06:23,520 --> 00:06:28,480 Speaker 1: defensively where everybody's pretty darn multiple. I think that the 124 00:06:28,960 --> 00:06:32,320 Speaker 1: three four four three talk. You know you're talking about 125 00:06:32,320 --> 00:06:37,160 Speaker 1: probably tend to of the season is what you'll play 126 00:06:37,320 --> 00:06:41,520 Speaker 1: the base three four or three or four three defense 127 00:06:41,760 --> 00:06:44,840 Speaker 1: and everything else besides that is sub. Now what kind 128 00:06:44,880 --> 00:06:48,880 Speaker 1: of sub you put out there is very multiple and 129 00:06:49,080 --> 00:06:51,520 Speaker 1: that's the fun part of it, you know, they just 130 00:06:51,600 --> 00:06:54,719 Speaker 1: because it's you can change it up every week. What 131 00:06:54,800 --> 00:06:57,479 Speaker 1: are some of the things, for instance, like corners? What 132 00:06:57,480 --> 00:06:59,520 Speaker 1: what do you look for in a cornerback? Because this 133 00:06:59,640 --> 00:07:01,800 Speaker 1: has been come such a passing league and you've got 134 00:07:01,800 --> 00:07:03,640 Speaker 1: to have at least three or four that can play 135 00:07:03,640 --> 00:07:05,760 Speaker 1: on a high level, right I. I just don't think 136 00:07:06,200 --> 00:07:09,479 Speaker 1: with with our philosophy you can have enough quarterback corners 137 00:07:09,520 --> 00:07:11,760 Speaker 1: because of the quarterbacks and the wide receivers in this 138 00:07:11,840 --> 00:07:14,080 Speaker 1: league and the rules that that that that they have. 139 00:07:14,240 --> 00:07:15,760 Speaker 1: You know, we don't make the rules. We just played 140 00:07:15,760 --> 00:07:17,000 Speaker 1: by them. But what do I look for in the 141 00:07:17,040 --> 00:07:20,880 Speaker 1: corner as someone with length and speed and if there's 142 00:07:21,040 --> 00:07:23,720 Speaker 1: a smaller corner, I hope they got long arms, you know, 143 00:07:23,760 --> 00:07:26,400 Speaker 1: and have a vertical leap to go play the football. 144 00:07:27,200 --> 00:07:30,360 Speaker 1: But each each guy will have his own skill set 145 00:07:30,840 --> 00:07:33,200 Speaker 1: and that's how you determine where you're gonna play him 146 00:07:33,240 --> 00:07:36,080 Speaker 1: in what situations and how you do it, and uh, 147 00:07:36,240 --> 00:07:39,600 Speaker 1: you know, everybody's different, and you know, and that's what 148 00:07:39,640 --> 00:07:42,920 Speaker 1: we're gonna sit down and attack here with free agency 149 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:45,800 Speaker 1: and in the draft and and with O T. A. 150 00:07:45,880 --> 00:07:48,040 Speaker 1: S are guys that we have and I'm I can't wait, 151 00:07:49,000 --> 00:07:51,680 Speaker 1: you know, without you're just doing your deep dive into 152 00:07:51,720 --> 00:07:55,440 Speaker 1: the players. Um, but Xavian McKinney and your two kind 153 00:07:55,440 --> 00:07:58,640 Speaker 1: of came into his own a little bit, schooled under 154 00:07:58,720 --> 00:08:02,560 Speaker 1: Nick Saban in Alabama, effortless in his motions, always seems 155 00:08:02,600 --> 00:08:04,480 Speaker 1: to know where he needs to be and gets there 156 00:08:04,640 --> 00:08:06,400 Speaker 1: ahead of time, and seems to have a really high 157 00:08:06,440 --> 00:08:09,760 Speaker 1: football I Q. Do you start to think about the 158 00:08:09,800 --> 00:08:12,040 Speaker 1: things that you can do with a player like that? No, No, 159 00:08:12,280 --> 00:08:14,800 Speaker 1: that's that's gonna be fun. That's the fun part. And 160 00:08:14,800 --> 00:08:16,600 Speaker 1: then you know you have to see where you you 161 00:08:16,640 --> 00:08:20,120 Speaker 1: think your wink link link is and uh, you know, 162 00:08:20,200 --> 00:08:24,040 Speaker 1: and and work on that too. But people will be surprised. 163 00:08:24,080 --> 00:08:26,280 Speaker 1: It's it's it's never as bad as it seems. It's 164 00:08:26,320 --> 00:08:29,560 Speaker 1: never as good as it seems. But people will be surprised, Uh, 165 00:08:29,600 --> 00:08:31,400 Speaker 1: you know, with with what we can do with what 166 00:08:31,480 --> 00:08:33,559 Speaker 1: we have already. And you know, I'm just looking to 167 00:08:33,600 --> 00:08:36,640 Speaker 1: add to it all right, message for Giants fans what 168 00:08:36,679 --> 00:08:40,439 Speaker 1: they can expect out of a Wink Martindale defense. I 169 00:08:40,480 --> 00:08:44,280 Speaker 1: think that you're gonna be excited coming to the game 170 00:08:44,520 --> 00:08:47,520 Speaker 1: to watch the defense as well as the offense. And uh, 171 00:08:47,679 --> 00:08:49,880 Speaker 1: you know, it's gonna be an attacking style, old school 172 00:08:49,920 --> 00:08:53,400 Speaker 1: Giants football that you've seen in the past. And I 173 00:08:53,480 --> 00:08:55,679 Speaker 1: look forward to every day being out there with him 174 00:08:56,200 --> 00:08:58,600 Speaker 1: and and being with the fans on Sunday because this 175 00:08:58,679 --> 00:09:02,679 Speaker 1: is a eight organization with great fans and I already 176 00:09:02,760 --> 00:09:06,199 Speaker 1: know it well if you go back to the fifties. Uh, 177 00:09:06,440 --> 00:09:09,560 Speaker 1: the defensive players for that fifty six championship team are 178 00:09:09,600 --> 00:09:13,480 Speaker 1: still a household names. So New York loves that defense. Coach, 179 00:09:13,559 --> 00:09:15,480 Speaker 1: Welcome to the New York Giants. We forgot to bring 180 00:09:15,559 --> 00:09:22,080 Speaker 1: up lt We never forget, never forget coach Don Winke Martindale, 181 00:09:22,080 --> 00:09:24,800 Speaker 1: the new defensive coordinator of the New York Football Giants. 182 00:09:24,840 --> 00:09:27,800 Speaker 1: Thank you very much. We thank Bob Popa, Don Wink Martindale, 183 00:09:27,840 --> 00:09:30,160 Speaker 1: and of course all the Giants coordinators for joining us 184 00:09:30,440 --> 00:09:33,719 Speaker 1: in our Coordinator series on the Giant Subtle Podcast. If 185 00:09:33,720 --> 00:09:36,800 Speaker 1: you like this content, make sure you subscribe. Find the 186 00:09:36,840 --> 00:09:39,640 Speaker 1: Giant Subtle Podcast on your favorite podcast platforms. 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Thanks to Bob and our 197 00:10:06,200 --> 00:10:09,920 Speaker 1: three coordinators Thomas mcgahey, Mike Kafka and Don Wing Martindale, 198 00:10:10,559 --> 00:10:12,559 Speaker 1: have a good one. We'll see you next time on 199 00:10:12,640 --> 00:10:14,119 Speaker 1: the Giants Hute podcast