1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:03,440 Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on 2 00:00:03,560 --> 00:00:07,840 Speaker 1: iHeart Radio. Open lines on Coast to Coast AM is 3 00:00:08,039 --> 00:00:13,440 Speaker 1: an answer to the dulling normalcy of most things of life. 4 00:00:14,280 --> 00:00:18,000 Speaker 1: You know, the mindless repetition that can sometimes be our 5 00:00:18,079 --> 00:00:20,439 Speaker 1: day to day gets blown out of the water. On 6 00:00:20,480 --> 00:00:22,520 Speaker 1: open lines, you never know what's going to happen. Robert 7 00:00:22,640 --> 00:00:25,160 Speaker 1: is in Houston on a wildcard line on Coast to 8 00:00:25,239 --> 00:00:29,280 Speaker 1: Coast AM. Robert, Hey, I made the big time at last. 9 00:00:29,360 --> 00:00:35,879 Speaker 1: You had so now what? Well, I was wondering if 10 00:00:36,760 --> 00:00:40,040 Speaker 1: you saw the short called Night at the Garden and 11 00:00:40,120 --> 00:00:43,319 Speaker 1: if you're familiar with it, tell me about Night at 12 00:00:43,320 --> 00:00:47,160 Speaker 1: the Garden. Well, I was flipping through TV one night 13 00:00:47,440 --> 00:00:50,800 Speaker 1: late and it was a series of shorts, not just 14 00:00:50,880 --> 00:00:54,800 Speaker 1: that one, that were on and I saw it and 15 00:00:54,880 --> 00:00:57,280 Speaker 1: I'm like, wow, I had heard of these things. But 16 00:00:57,360 --> 00:01:00,480 Speaker 1: when you see it or you it's different. When is 17 00:01:00,480 --> 00:01:04,160 Speaker 1: this the Nazi rally thing? Yes, sir, I read about this, 18 00:01:04,680 --> 00:01:07,759 Speaker 1: so this is about the right the famous the footage 19 00:01:07,760 --> 00:01:12,000 Speaker 1: they found recently or rediscovered from the nineteen thirty nine 20 00:01:12,440 --> 00:01:16,440 Speaker 1: rally at Madison Square Garden. Yeah, I read about it. 21 00:01:16,440 --> 00:01:21,440 Speaker 1: Didn't burn it because it's pretty sick and uh, it's 22 00:01:21,440 --> 00:01:24,240 Speaker 1: hard to believe that it's in American soil, shot on 23 00:01:24,319 --> 00:01:28,039 Speaker 1: American soil. There's a part in there where a protesters. 24 00:01:28,920 --> 00:01:33,800 Speaker 1: Uh there's a protesters beaten up. Yeah, yeah, this is 25 00:01:33,800 --> 00:01:36,360 Speaker 1: the I saw. I'm so funny you mentioned it because 26 00:01:36,360 --> 00:01:38,400 Speaker 1: I didn't really I was reading it, but I was 27 00:01:38,440 --> 00:01:41,560 Speaker 1: sort of distracted by something else. So, um, this is 28 00:01:41,640 --> 00:01:45,280 Speaker 1: it's it's it's nominated for an oscar, right, I hope 29 00:01:45,280 --> 00:01:49,880 Speaker 1: it wins. Yeah, I think, well, it's the trip seeing it. 30 00:01:49,960 --> 00:01:52,200 Speaker 1: I mean, I've always heard these things, but when you 31 00:01:52,240 --> 00:01:55,800 Speaker 1: see it, it's different. U. Um. The reason I called 32 00:01:55,920 --> 00:01:58,200 Speaker 1: was I got a story on my phone that you 33 00:01:58,240 --> 00:02:00,280 Speaker 1: know how you get little stories, click on it to 34 00:02:00,360 --> 00:02:02,640 Speaker 1: yes or no. But it was about how I forget 35 00:02:02,680 --> 00:02:05,400 Speaker 1: when network they banned they're not going to show the 36 00:02:06,600 --> 00:02:09,679 Speaker 1: commercial for it, they pulled it or whoever. I don't 37 00:02:09,680 --> 00:02:11,720 Speaker 1: know who it was. I don't remember, somebody knows, But 38 00:02:12,560 --> 00:02:15,840 Speaker 1: did you know that? So I looked this up as 39 00:02:15,880 --> 00:02:19,840 Speaker 1: you were talking. So this story appeared on Indie Wire 40 00:02:20,120 --> 00:02:22,920 Speaker 1: about the short A Night at the Garden, and it 41 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:29,280 Speaker 1: says here that since we published the following story, we 42 00:02:29,320 --> 00:02:33,800 Speaker 1: received this statement from a spokesperson for Fox News. The commercial, 43 00:02:34,280 --> 00:02:37,919 Speaker 1: the commercial in question was a local ad buy, so 44 00:02:37,960 --> 00:02:40,600 Speaker 1: it wasn't a national Fox News ad by it would 45 00:02:40,639 --> 00:02:43,200 Speaker 1: be a local affiliate, which was done through the regional 46 00:02:43,280 --> 00:02:46,560 Speaker 1: cable system, not through the network at the national level. 47 00:02:46,600 --> 00:02:50,679 Speaker 1: We have no control over what airs locally, so that 48 00:02:51,040 --> 00:02:55,679 Speaker 1: the story was then that that it was a local buy, 49 00:02:55,840 --> 00:02:59,320 Speaker 1: not a national one. And what was happened is what 50 00:02:59,360 --> 00:03:01,560 Speaker 1: the commercial guy spiked. Is that what it was, and 51 00:03:01,680 --> 00:03:07,359 Speaker 1: people were prevented the commercial from airing, which promoted the movie. 52 00:03:07,480 --> 00:03:11,200 Speaker 1: Is that the story? No, well I don't know details 53 00:03:10,800 --> 00:03:14,480 Speaker 1: of the story. Which made a big thing. Was the 54 00:03:14,520 --> 00:03:18,280 Speaker 1: CEO or whoever a Fox said? Well, he just for 55 00:03:18,360 --> 00:03:20,320 Speaker 1: no reason. He didn't give a reason. He just said, 56 00:03:20,760 --> 00:03:22,080 Speaker 1: I don't want to show it, or we're not going 57 00:03:22,120 --> 00:03:25,280 Speaker 1: to show the commercial, okay like that. So it wasn't 58 00:03:25,440 --> 00:03:28,239 Speaker 1: national Fox. It was the local some local guy who 59 00:03:28,360 --> 00:03:31,519 Speaker 1: said that. Yeah, yeah, so that was it? Well fair enough, 60 00:03:31,560 --> 00:03:33,440 Speaker 1: well it really I'm so glad you brought this up 61 00:03:33,440 --> 00:03:36,080 Speaker 1: because I sort of stuck in my mind to go 62 00:03:36,120 --> 00:03:38,480 Speaker 1: back and figure that out, because I remember, I mean, 63 00:03:38,560 --> 00:03:40,720 Speaker 1: I wasn't alive for it, but I've seen and heard 64 00:03:40,720 --> 00:03:45,400 Speaker 1: about this famous night and at the time to see 65 00:03:45,480 --> 00:03:47,800 Speaker 1: this weird. Yeah, I want to think here in the 66 00:03:47,840 --> 00:03:51,240 Speaker 1: Twilight Zone. You they show a marquee and stuff and 67 00:03:51,800 --> 00:03:55,680 Speaker 1: it sys right there like Nazi rally tonight, right, and 68 00:03:55,720 --> 00:03:57,960 Speaker 1: then inside if I remember I only saw it, well 69 00:03:58,000 --> 00:04:01,160 Speaker 1: I saw it twice. But um, if I remember right, 70 00:04:01,240 --> 00:04:04,000 Speaker 1: they have huge posters. Man, I hope I'm not wrong. 71 00:04:04,120 --> 00:04:06,440 Speaker 1: They have huge posters of George Washington. Yeah. I was 72 00:04:06,440 --> 00:04:09,480 Speaker 1: gonna say, no, it's exactly George Washington. It's behind the podium. 73 00:04:09,480 --> 00:04:12,440 Speaker 1: I've seen that. You've seen that picture, and so they 74 00:04:12,520 --> 00:04:16,560 Speaker 1: tied in George Washington to basically making him out to 75 00:04:16,600 --> 00:04:20,080 Speaker 1: be like a proto Nazi and it is so typical 76 00:04:20,200 --> 00:04:24,240 Speaker 1: of I think of how people twist the American message 77 00:04:24,320 --> 00:04:27,760 Speaker 1: like that in the Great American Experiment. You know, well, 78 00:04:27,800 --> 00:04:31,040 Speaker 1: I've never been this, well I've never been in New York, 79 00:04:31,160 --> 00:04:36,040 Speaker 1: much less the garden. But it's packed. Yeah, this was 80 00:04:36,080 --> 00:04:40,599 Speaker 1: the original garden. So there's been several Madison Square gardens. Okay, 81 00:04:40,920 --> 00:04:43,520 Speaker 1: I didn't know this. It was either this was the 82 00:04:43,640 --> 00:04:46,480 Speaker 1: either the first one or the second one. Back at 83 00:04:46,520 --> 00:04:49,240 Speaker 1: the time when it was actually not even what was it. 84 00:04:49,360 --> 00:04:55,440 Speaker 1: It was called originally Madison Square Garden Bowl. That's what 85 00:04:55,520 --> 00:04:57,960 Speaker 1: it was called. Originally, they dropped bowl and it just 86 00:04:58,000 --> 00:05:02,720 Speaker 1: became Madison Square Garden. But um, yeah, okay, I'm so glad, 87 00:05:02,760 --> 00:05:05,760 Speaker 1: so let's root for that for for the oscars coming up. 88 00:05:05,880 --> 00:05:09,120 Speaker 1: And and and it's an amazing story. I'm glad you raise 89 00:05:10,320 --> 00:05:11,960 Speaker 1: with a lot of different shorts and I watched them 90 00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:13,839 Speaker 1: all and that one I'm like, wow, that was kind of, 91 00:05:14,080 --> 00:05:17,360 Speaker 1: you know, weird, But I'm glad somebody it's American history, 92 00:05:17,440 --> 00:05:20,120 Speaker 1: like it or not, that's exactly well, we need to 93 00:05:20,160 --> 00:05:25,039 Speaker 1: always learn from it. This country helped some of the Nazis. Uh, 94 00:05:25,080 --> 00:05:26,880 Speaker 1: they gave him a free pass to come help us 95 00:05:26,880 --> 00:05:29,200 Speaker 1: out right. They don't teach you, they don't teach you 96 00:05:29,240 --> 00:05:31,960 Speaker 1: that in high school. Well, you know, it's funny. And 97 00:05:32,160 --> 00:05:35,320 Speaker 1: and thank you, Robert. I appreciate everything you're saying. Um, 98 00:05:35,440 --> 00:05:38,480 Speaker 1: I would say when they say, you know, they don't 99 00:05:38,520 --> 00:05:42,440 Speaker 1: teach that, I think that it's there. It's not hidden information. 100 00:05:42,960 --> 00:05:46,280 Speaker 1: I think it's just not emphasized. So, I mean, I 101 00:05:46,360 --> 00:05:50,960 Speaker 1: remember reading about as a kid Nazi scientists coming to 102 00:05:51,080 --> 00:05:53,960 Speaker 1: the United States and helping with the rocket program, but 103 00:05:54,040 --> 00:05:56,960 Speaker 1: they were always sort of softened. So the story the 104 00:05:57,120 --> 00:06:01,560 Speaker 1: history on. It was was back soft pedaled in a 105 00:06:01,600 --> 00:06:06,120 Speaker 1: way to be that they were somehow not mean Nazis, 106 00:06:06,200 --> 00:06:09,800 Speaker 1: and they were Nazis only by name, they weren't real 107 00:06:09,880 --> 00:06:12,200 Speaker 1: Nazis and all these other things which we know now 108 00:06:12,240 --> 00:06:14,839 Speaker 1: to be totally false. They were completely aware of the 109 00:06:14,880 --> 00:06:17,600 Speaker 1: slave labor that was going into the building of the 110 00:06:18,040 --> 00:06:20,880 Speaker 1: Nazi nuclear program, for example, or some of the other 111 00:06:21,160 --> 00:06:25,320 Speaker 1: you know, the rocketry they were doing the experiments with 112 00:06:25,360 --> 00:06:27,880 Speaker 1: the V two and the other things, and they knew 113 00:06:27,920 --> 00:06:31,000 Speaker 1: very darned well that it was that these were all 114 00:06:31,080 --> 00:06:35,679 Speaker 1: Jewish slave laborers who would die on the job every day. 115 00:06:36,400 --> 00:06:38,640 Speaker 1: They weren't oblivious to it, but that was part of 116 00:06:38,640 --> 00:06:41,160 Speaker 1: how it was sold to the American people at the time, 117 00:06:41,240 --> 00:06:43,680 Speaker 1: so that part was hidden from us, but they were 118 00:06:43,760 --> 00:06:46,799 Speaker 1: teaching it. They just kind of put, you know, Werner 119 00:06:46,880 --> 00:06:48,920 Speaker 1: von Brown and other people in kind of a different 120 00:06:48,960 --> 00:06:51,080 Speaker 1: light than I think he if we're going to look 121 00:06:51,080 --> 00:06:53,479 Speaker 1: at the harsh light of history, we should be we 122 00:06:53,520 --> 00:06:56,440 Speaker 1: should be considering to Robert's point though, two, I just 123 00:06:56,480 --> 00:07:00,200 Speaker 1: want to say, and I'll look forward to seeing this 124 00:06:59,440 --> 00:07:05,279 Speaker 1: um this short again night at the Garden, is that 125 00:07:06,279 --> 00:07:09,520 Speaker 1: there was that actually presents sort of a time when 126 00:07:09,600 --> 00:07:14,480 Speaker 1: journalism was flummixed over covering that because the pressure was 127 00:07:14,480 --> 00:07:17,400 Speaker 1: on to say, hey, where American as you you know, 128 00:07:18,640 --> 00:07:20,840 Speaker 1: we're not any different, we just have different views. You 129 00:07:20,920 --> 00:07:24,160 Speaker 1: have to cover our views. And it wasn't at the 130 00:07:24,200 --> 00:07:28,360 Speaker 1: time in nineteen thirty nine, they really tried to be 131 00:07:28,600 --> 00:07:31,680 Speaker 1: sort of objective about the way they were covering the 132 00:07:31,800 --> 00:07:36,800 Speaker 1: growth of the American Nazi movement, and an in effect, 133 00:07:36,960 --> 00:07:40,040 Speaker 1: you know, played right into the Nazi movement's hands by 134 00:07:40,120 --> 00:07:43,040 Speaker 1: making them seem no different than a democrat or a 135 00:07:43,040 --> 00:07:46,960 Speaker 1: republican or an independent. And it wasn't until the horrors 136 00:07:47,040 --> 00:07:48,880 Speaker 1: really of World War Two that a lot of those 137 00:07:48,920 --> 00:07:52,400 Speaker 1: people ended up getting a come upance for that period 138 00:07:52,400 --> 00:07:56,679 Speaker 1: and journalist began to treat the Nazi conversation very differently. 139 00:07:56,960 --> 00:08:00,240 Speaker 1: Listen to more Coast to Coast AM every weeknight at 140 00:08:00,280 --> 00:08:03,160 Speaker 1: one a m Eastern and go to Coast to coastam 141 00:08:03,240 --> 00:08:04,280 Speaker 1: dot com for more