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Speaker 2: Welcome back our number two here on the Herd. It's

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Speaker 2: me Jason McIntyre. They went to the bullpen today, folks.

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Speaker 2: Cowherd a little travel issues. He'll be back tomorrow, that's promised.

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Speaker 2: I think he's on a bird right now, very excited

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Speaker 2: to come back. He's got takes galore. This is a

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Speaker 2: guy who can't stop with the takes. I mean, if

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Speaker 2: you guys ever see Cowherd out in the wild, just

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Speaker 2: shout him up.

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Speaker 3: He will talk about sports anytime.

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Speaker 2: Me.

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Speaker 3: I'm more earbuds in. Just give the head nod what's up.

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Speaker 2: But very happy to be here on a Monday, exciting

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Speaker 2: week of sports ahead.

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Speaker 3: A lot of NFL action.

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Speaker 2: You got the Major League Baseball All Star get home

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Speaker 2: run derby tonight, you got the w NBA All Star

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Speaker 2: Game coming up, and obviously we have Matt Hasselbeck dropping

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Speaker 2: by here in a minute. Boy, I'm seeing his list

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Speaker 2: of winners in the offseason. Wow, he's got some takes.

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Speaker 2: Final hour, Chris Brusard. I'm gonna beat him up on

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Speaker 2: some NBA topics. That's what I do. All right, let's

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Speaker 2: quickly before we get to Hasslebeck, Let's just get this

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Speaker 2: out of the way early. I was gonna save it

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Speaker 2: for August, but let's just fire it now. I'm gonna

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Speaker 2: go ahead and pick your division winners because I'll be

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Speaker 2: going to Vegas soon my summer sojourn to get into

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Speaker 2: the gambling contest futures bets. Here are my eight division

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Speaker 2: winners in the NFL. A lot of sameness from last year.

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Speaker 2: Let's get started with the AFC East. This is a

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Speaker 2: no brainer. It's gonna be the Bills in Josh Allen.

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Speaker 2: They are an overwhelming favorite. Understandably, they're my pick to

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Speaker 2: win the Super Bowl the short of Josh Allen not playing,

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Speaker 2: the Bills are winning this division. I don't care how

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Speaker 2: good the Patriots are, Miami ain't gonna be great. My

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Speaker 2: Jets not there yet. The Bills will win the AFC East.

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Speaker 3: That is an absolute lock.

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Speaker 2: They are the biggest favorite to win their division at

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Speaker 2: minus two eighty.

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Speaker 3: Next up, AFC North. I thought about the Bengals.

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Speaker 2: Obviously cannot do Steelers here or Browns, so you gotta

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Speaker 2: who was amazing on the show last week.

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Speaker 3: What a great guest he was. So you gotta go

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Speaker 3: Ravens in the AFC North. I will accept.

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Speaker 2: Bengals, but their defense is still in shambles. AFC South,

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Speaker 2: here's where I'm going a little bit of a surprise.

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Speaker 2: I don't believe as much in the Texans. Not ready

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Speaker 2: going Jacksonville Jags going from four and thirteen to winning

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Speaker 3: You know, go ahead and fire your mud at knee online.

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Speaker 3: I'm used to it.

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Speaker 2: I'm going with the Chargers, but with Jim Harbaugh to

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Speaker 3: Obviously, Herbert has better weapons.

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Speaker 2: It's a tough division, but I'm going with Chargers in

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Speaker 3: I'm not quite there. Obviously, Giants stink.

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Speaker 3: Super Bowl champ. The defense is still going to be exceptional.

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Speaker 3: I think this is going to be a very good team.

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Speaker 2: I don't think they're quite due to the schedule super

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Speaker 2: here's my major curveball. I'm going with the Minnesota Vikings.

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Speaker 2: when you look at the odds, they are third best,

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Speaker 3: They are plus three point fifty to win the division.

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Speaker 2: I have planted my flag in the JJ McCarthy camp.

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Speaker 2: I know some people do not like that, and yes,

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Speaker 2: the a NFC North NFC South slight wrinkle, though not

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Speaker 3: I don't love some of the front office stuff, but.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna overlook it because I think Pennix has a

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Speaker 3: So give me the Falcons to win the NFC North.

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Speaker 2: NFC South, sorry, and finally NFC West. Oh yeah, Rock

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Speaker 2: Purdy and the Niners. They will win the division. They

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Speaker 3: Folks. This is schedule oriented. Go look at the schedule.

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Speaker 2: Easiest in the league by a mile. Robert Salah returns

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Speaker 2: from last year. A lot of change. We'll get to

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Speaker 2: the Juwan Jennings stuff that popped this morning.

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Speaker 3: Not great. Obviously, they'll need Brandon and I you badly.

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Speaker 2: I think the fiftees, fifty three million dollar man Rock

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Speaker 3: So there are my division winners, Bill's and Ravens.

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Speaker 2: No surprise Jags are surprise Chargers and upset Eagles nobody

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Speaker 2: I've got Niners missed the playoffs. Falcons missed the playoffs,

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Speaker 2: Jags missed the playoffs. Three new teams just a the

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Speaker 3: All right, let's get to our guest.

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Speaker 2: Matt Hasselbeck played eighteen seasons in the NFL.

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Speaker 3: Obviously a great analyst here at Fox.

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Speaker 2: I like, he's coming right off the practice field and

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Speaker 2: I will say this.

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Speaker 4: Hey, yeah, cool, I'm in my high school coaching outfit.

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Speaker 4: It's sweaty down here at Nashville.

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Speaker 6: But I cannot wait for when Jmack was right and

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Speaker 6: when Jmax was wrong.

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Speaker 2: Yeah that's coming probably eventually next month, but really quickly.

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Speaker 3: So you're coaching a high profile football program and I

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Speaker 3: just love it. I'm just curious.

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Speaker 2: Are what's it like on the recruiting trail because you

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Speaker 2: obviously played in the NFL, big name, you're on TV,

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Speaker 3: Is it easy to recruit? Like? Is that so fun? Again?

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Speaker 3: I get nerdy about.

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Speaker 6: This, well, I mean recruiting in high school football, it

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Speaker 4: I mean I think of it more like an open house.

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Speaker 6: You know, like you're an open house to your program

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Speaker 6: and everyone says, oh, you guys, recruit, I mean, our

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Speaker 6: want to go where someone can develop you and to

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Speaker 4: And you know, personally, how we.

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Speaker 6: Coach, you know, we don't we don't tackle each other

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Speaker 4: And that's not necessarily how I grew up, you know.

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Speaker 6: But it is fun. It is definitely fun coaching these guys.

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Speaker 6: And we have a lot of talent down here in Nashville,

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Speaker 3: That's awesome, man, congrats.

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Speaker 2: That's a big thing in the communities, you know, coaching

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Speaker 3: So anyways, let's get to a We'll start with I'm

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Speaker 6: Give a shout out to my nephew is the quarterback,

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Speaker 6: and my brother Tim is the head coach.

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Speaker 6: A nice little buffer between the father son the way

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Speaker 4: You know Mike Home.

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Speaker 6: Uh, you know Jim Zorn was in there between me.

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Speaker 6: So it can get a little you know, it can

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Speaker 3: Wow, wait a step in there. Nicely done.

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Speaker 2: All right, let's go to quickly my division winners. Uh,

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Speaker 2: hear what you hate? Where I'm gonna be wrong, where

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Speaker 2: You gotta love the forty nine Ers, Falcons, Vikings, Eagles,

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Speaker 2: And then in the AFC, I don't have the Chiefs,

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Speaker 6: I think every year there's a quarterback that is kind

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Speaker 4: Sam Darnold comes out of nowhere. To me, I think

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Speaker 4: Daniel Jones in Indianapolis Colts have the best chance to

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Speaker 6: opportunity to win the division with Indianapolis Colts there. And

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Speaker 6: then the AFC West is an incredible division, but I

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Speaker 6: think people are sleeping on Sean Payton and bow Nicks

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Speaker 6: and what they could be in that division. I mean,

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Speaker 6: the easy pick would just to be said to say

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Speaker 6: the Chiefs Chargers are kind of a sexy pick, but

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Speaker 4: And then on your list, yeah Eagles. I love the

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Speaker 6: When your franchise quarterback does that, and the previous franchise

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Speaker 4: Well, he's a great runner too.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, And I think Anthony Richardson's like you know, he's

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Speaker 2: Remember Vanilla Vick was his nickname, which not everybody loved.

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Speaker 2: Sean Payton, I keep reading this defense man, they might

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Speaker 4: Yeah, no doubt, listen. I played a long time in

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Speaker 4: They were all disguising at the same time. One of

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Speaker 6: They do a nice job with their pre snap post

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Speaker 6: You know, bo Nicks had an incredible year last year.

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Speaker 6: And if it wasn't for Jayden Daniels having just an epic,

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Speaker 6: It's going to be better for the play action, better

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Speaker 4: They'll still go empty, they'll still all do that stuff.

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Speaker 4: You know, I just have a lot of respect for

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Speaker 2: Interesting all right, let's go to ESPN had a list

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Speaker 2: of the ten best quarterbacks. Apparently they pulled executives, coaches,

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Speaker 3: We all agree with that. But five through ten, I

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Speaker 2: You know, do people understand that Jalen Hurts statistically is

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Speaker 3: Matt, do you think that there's maybe.

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Speaker 2: A little bias because he's the only non first round

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Speaker 6: Yeah, you're asking a six round pick, So you think

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Speaker 4: No, I don't think so.

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Speaker 6: I think people are looking for a certain thing when

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Speaker 6: I love that top five. Listen, Jalen, you could make

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Speaker 4: And I think why I say that.

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Speaker 6: You know, people don't give him enough credit for the

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Speaker 4: He stays in the pocket. He doesn't flinch.

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Speaker 5: You know.

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Speaker 6: Maybe it's boring to some people, but listen, my favorite

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Speaker 6: it's some of the things that he does. It might

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Speaker 2: I do have to ask. I mean, listen, it's just

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Speaker 4: I think he's awesome in every way. I mean, I

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Speaker 6: You know, once you get the rib injury, you're like, oh, okay, yeah,

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Speaker 6: They invested in you know, two tackles. It's gonna help

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Speaker 4: You know, they let Fowler go.

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Speaker 4: Like, you know, a lot of guys, look, oh I

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Speaker 4: well guess what.

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Speaker 6: Jaden Daniels makes it the one opportunity when it's there

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Speaker 2: He was hurt a lot of last year.

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Speaker 4: But still no, no, no, he should not be in there.

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Speaker 3: Herbert I love, but Herbert doesn't have a playoff win.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, Well, I mean I'll just say this that

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Speaker 4: this is one of the best things about the NFL.

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Speaker 4: Then good teams get this right.

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Speaker 6: And Mike Holmgrian, I remember the Packers were coming off

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Speaker 6: a consecutive Super Bowls and I came in my very

447
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Speaker 6: first meeting with Mike Hongrin and he said, listen, I

448
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Speaker 6: do not care how much money you make.

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Speaker 4: I do not care where you were drafted. I don't

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Speaker 4: care what you have done in the past. The best

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Speaker 4: players are going to play. It is not about these

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Speaker 4: other things. And listen, that's a room with Reggie White

453
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Speaker 4: and Brett fav coming off with like three MVPs in

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Speaker 4: a row. And that's the mindset.

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Speaker 6: So like for players, and I think the best coaches,

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Speaker 6: what's someone's contract is is irrelevant. And I would say

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Speaker 6: that when I'm game planning against a defense, I don't

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Speaker 6: care if you're the highest paid corner in the league.

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Speaker 6: If I find a weakness in your game, we're going

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Speaker 6: to try to exploit it. And I think that's the

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Speaker 6: best way to look at, you know, some of these

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Speaker 6: positional rankings as well, your contract that's for somebody else

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Speaker 6: for us as we evaluate, you know, I think you.

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Speaker 4: Let the film do the talking.

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Speaker 2: All right, final one on this before we get to

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Speaker 2: your offseason winners. My guy, brock Perdy did not crack

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Speaker 2: the top ten. Now, he didn't have a phenomenal year,

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Speaker 2: a lot of injuries, but Matt, you saw him before this.

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Speaker 2: He was an elite quarterback. He was in the MVP

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Speaker 2: discussion two years ago, led the Niners to a Super Bowl,

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Speaker 2: led them to a conference championship. Brock Perty's numbers are

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Speaker 2: really good. Should he have made a case for the

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Speaker 2: top ten?

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Speaker 6: No, listen, I think he's awesome, and I think Dak's

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Speaker 6: a good quarterback too, But top ten is top ten.

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Speaker 4: I mean, that's you know, it's rare air.

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Speaker 6: I think that brock Party is the right quarterback for

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Speaker 6: the forty nine ers. I think Dak is the right

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Speaker 6: quarterback for the Dallas Cowboys. But Brock is a guy

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Speaker 6: that is always going to get doubted. You were talking

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Speaker 6: about the fact that Hurts wasn't a first rounder.

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Speaker 4: I don't think.

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Speaker 6: I don't care what brock Party does the rest of

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Speaker 6: his career. I think he will always be to some

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Speaker 6: people mister irrelevant.

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Speaker 4: To me, he is not that.

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Speaker 6: And to Kyle Shanahan and John Lynch, he is not that.

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Speaker 6: The challenge for them is they got to stick together

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Speaker 6: as guys are leaving, there's a lot of change. Juwan

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Speaker 6: Jennings wants a new contract right now, like there's a

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Speaker 6: lot of stuff. Can't pay everybody. But you know, he's

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Speaker 6: I think he's a good player. I think he could

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Speaker 6: be a great player if he continues to win that division,

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Speaker 6: that he continues to kind of do it when it

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Speaker 6: needs to be done. That's there's a fine line between

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Speaker 6: being a playoff quarterback and not a playoff quarterback, to

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Speaker 6: be a quarterback that wins playoff games and a quarterback

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Speaker 6: that's just one and done. And so I think he

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Speaker 6: certainly has the ingredients to do it. He's got the

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Speaker 6: coaching staff to do it. But that turnover is going

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Speaker 6: to be an issue for them.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, finally, let's get to your winners of

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Speaker 2: the offseason. I will say you listed four teams here.

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Speaker 2: I agree with two and a half of them. Colin

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Speaker 2: will greatly agree with one of them. But why don't

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Speaker 2: you reveal your four winners this offseason?

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Speaker 6: Well, you know, I'm not sure what the order is here,

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Speaker 6: but I love Minnesota. Like I think Minnesota is going

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Speaker 6: to be the sneaky tim My team. I mentioned Brian Flores.

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Speaker 6: I think that defense is going to be underrated. They

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Speaker 6: invested up front. They spend one hundred and six million

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Speaker 6: dollars at center and right guard with you know, with

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Speaker 6: the veterans that they went there. They I mean, they're

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Speaker 6: just they're going up front in the trenches. I think

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Speaker 6: we kind of learned from that. That's what they did

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Speaker 6: last year. Now it's going to be all on JJ McCarthy.

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Speaker 4: Can he do it? That's a huge question mark young quarterbacks.

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Speaker 6: But I'll say this, the people in Minnesota believe that

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Speaker 6: he can. That's why they let Sam Darnold walk. They

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Speaker 6: said no to Aaron Rodgers, they said no to Daniel Jones.

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Speaker 6: They like they believe with Kevin O'Connell. They feel like

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Speaker 6: he could be the guy.

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Speaker 4: You know, another team that I think he kind of

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Speaker 4: got to like buy low, sell high here that really improved.

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Speaker 6: I think the Las Vegas Raiders did a great job,

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Speaker 6: you know, I think about Pete Carroll. They went and

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Speaker 6: got Chip Kelly, they upgraded, They got Geno Smith, they

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Speaker 6: got Ashton Genty, they got a good running back room,

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Speaker 6: Rock Bauers in this offense.

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Speaker 4: I like it, you know, I can't.

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Speaker 6: I think Tom Brady's influence in this is something.

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Speaker 4: It's not nothing.

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Speaker 6: So to me, I think the Raiders are a much

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Speaker 6: improved team. Will they be relevant enough in this division?

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Speaker 4: I don't know. It's a year one thing.

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Speaker 6: The New England Patriots in a similar way, I think

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Speaker 6: it's a bit upgrade Mike Rabel, Josh McDaniels, Drake May.

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Speaker 5: Year two.

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Speaker 4: They've invested in the draft on the.

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Speaker 6: Offensive side of the ball early, and then they kind

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Speaker 6: of went free agency with guys like Milton Williams. They

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Speaker 6: got Christian Barmore back, they got two of the best

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Speaker 6: corners in the league, and Christian Gonzales and Carlton Davis.

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Speaker 3: Third.

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Speaker 6: I think the Patriots make a huge jump. They were

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Speaker 6: terrible last year. They're going to be potentially a playoff

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Speaker 6: team this year, and then this might surprise people a

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Speaker 6: little bit coming from me, But I really believe that

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Speaker 6: this team has done, probably more than anybody the most

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Speaker 6: to improve and that's the Chicago Bears. And part of

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Speaker 6: the reason that I say it is I love the

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Speaker 6: fact that they locked up Ryan Poles.

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Speaker 4: I think one of the biggest issues in.

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Speaker 6: Chicago is that they have not had continuity and symmetry

555
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Speaker 6: with the GM and the head coach. So now you

556
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Speaker 6: get polls, you get Ben Johnson, you go maybe done

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Speaker 6: the best job of any team solidifying the inside of

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Speaker 6: the offensive line. They're building this whole thing around Caleb Williams.

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Speaker 6: They're saying, Caleb, it is your job. We are setting

560
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Speaker 6: you up. You are the guy that should be the

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Speaker 6: most improved quarterback from last year to this.

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Speaker 4: Year, and we'll see. I mean it's he's certainly, I've

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Speaker 4: said it many times.

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Speaker 6: He has the talent. He is off to a very

565
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Speaker 6: slow start. He has the potential. It's all surrounded great coaching,

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Speaker 6: great protection, weapons, Like I really think that this is

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Speaker 6: this is a make or break year for him in

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Speaker 6: that sense, and he certainly is capable of doing it.

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Speaker 6: But if you look on paper most improved, I'll say

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Speaker 6: that they've done a great job.

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Speaker 3: Often so wrap up with give me your order for

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Speaker 3: that division?

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Speaker 2: Then, I mean, I agree they got better, But is

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Speaker 2: there any way they're not last place in the division?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I listen.

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Speaker 6: I think it's gonna be hard for Detroit. I think

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Speaker 6: it's gonna be hard for Detroit with all the losses

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Speaker 6: that they've had. I mean, they were one of the

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Speaker 6: best teams in football all last year. Loved him, but

580
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Speaker 6: losing both coordinators is tough. There's a lot of adversity

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Speaker 6: that they're going to have to overcome and Detroit and

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Speaker 6: they might overcome it.

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Speaker 4: They might. They've got strong leadership there, the same quarterback there.

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Speaker 6: That could happen to me. I think Minnesota is a

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Speaker 6: team that's going to shock people. I think they're really good,

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Speaker 6: like really good. Green Bays underrated. I thought they, you know,

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Speaker 6: a double digit win team last year.

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Speaker 4: You know, are the Bears going to be fourth in

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Speaker 4: that division? Possibly?

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Speaker 6: But I think it's they're kind of putting all their

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Speaker 6: chips on this guy that they think is a franchise quarterback,

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Speaker 6: the first pick in the overall in the draft. Can

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Speaker 6: he be a difference maker the way that Jaden Daniels was.

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Speaker 6: Jane Daniels took a bad team and said, hey, get

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Speaker 6: on my back, follow me.

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Speaker 4: I will lead us.

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Speaker 6: And they were one game away from from doing something

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Speaker 6: incredibly special.

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Speaker 4: So you know, is Caleb that guy?

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Speaker 6: I guess it kind of comes down to you believe

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Speaker 6: Caleb's that guy or not. But they put all the

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Speaker 6: pieces around him for him to do it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I like it.

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Speaker 2: That's a spicy take. All right, the great Matt hasselback.

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Speaker 2: Keep up the good work you guys doing two days

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Speaker 2: this week?

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Speaker 4: No no, no, no, no, you come on now, we're

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Speaker 4: not great. Two days are over. Science has told us

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Speaker 4: that is not even smart.

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Speaker 6: So we practiced once today Monday through Wednesday, seven on

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Speaker 6: seven on a Thursday.

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Speaker 4: Enjoy your weekend. You know that kind of Wow?

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Speaker 2: Maybe I should play football for you. Oh my, that

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Speaker 2: sounds cushy.

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Speaker 4: Gee. Well, most our kids are playing baseball and.

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Speaker 6: Summer lacrosse and other stuff too, so we believe in

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Speaker 6: multi sport athletes.

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Speaker 3: I like that. Totally agree. All right, Matt has all

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Speaker 3: my good stuff.

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Speaker 2: Man, thanks a lot, see Jayson, all right, he's a

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Speaker 2: good guy. Sounds like a great coach. I mean, geez,

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Speaker 2: letting kids play multiple sports. I know a lot of

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Speaker 2: coaches were like, Hey, you got to drop the other

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Speaker 2: sports and focus on this, which is a terrible idea. Anyways,

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Speaker 2: coming up next, I'll tell you why Travis Hunter should

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Speaker 2: not play both ways next season, and a celebrity endorsement

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Speaker 2: comes along with it.

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Speaker 3: That's next year on the Herd.

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Speaker 3: Back here on the Herd.

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Speaker 2: Fun stuff with Matt Hasselbeck, one of the seminal quarterbacks

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Speaker 2: in Seattle Seahawks history.

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Speaker 3: He said he had a great career, three time Pro bowler.

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Speaker 2: Interesting teams to watch I listed the Jags as a

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Speaker 2: team to watch earlier in the show, and we had

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Speaker 2: a gambler.

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Speaker 3: On last week. I forget if it was.

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Speaker 2: It might have been Adam turnoff for Chris FeliCa. One

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Speaker 2: of those two was hyping Trevor Lawrence to lead the

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Speaker 2: league in touchdowns, and it's an interesting take because you know,

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Speaker 2: Lawrence has not really lived up to the hype, and they.

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Speaker 3: You know, had a good receiver.

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Speaker 2: I think Brian Thomas last year put up some great

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Speaker 2: rookie numbers and then they've trade up, which I didn't

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Speaker 2: love at the time, to draft Travis Hunter, the great

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Speaker 2: wide receiver who also plays cornerback at a very high

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Speaker 2: level at Colorado, and now he's going to the pros.

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Speaker 2: So I'm bullish on the Jags offense. But the question becomes,

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Speaker 2: is Travis Hunter going to play both ways? We've never

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Speaker 2: really seen it. Obviously, people want to compare it to

662
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Speaker 2: Dion Sanders. Dion it was a great cornerback and returned

663
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Speaker 2: punts and stuff, and then he played baseball, like that's

664
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Speaker 2: a little different than playing defensive back and then playing

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Speaker 2: wide receiver. And Travis Hunter had a quote this week

666
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Speaker 2: about how, hey, listen, it's a lot for Travis Hunter,

667
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Speaker 2: but he can handle.

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Speaker 3: It's a lot to put on his plate, but he

669
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Speaker 3: can handle.

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Speaker 2: He's a really polished route runner, he's an excellent cornerback.

671
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Speaker 3: He's just a athlete. And I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I think I said at the time that it struck

673
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Speaker 2: me as hey, we need to make a splash as Jacksonville.

674
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Speaker 2: You know, there's a lot of jokes about the Jags.

675
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Speaker 2: They're London's team, they don't really have a fan base,

676
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Speaker 2: and this was the kind of move like, Travis Hunter

677
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Speaker 2: was one of the most popular players in the draft

678
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Speaker 2: when you factor in social media activity, off the field, endorsements.

679
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Speaker 2: He's just he's super popular. People like him, gravitate toward him.

680
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Speaker 2: So it was a play of hey, we got a

681
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Speaker 2: duel threat athlete, Hey we got an elite athlete, and oh,

682
00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:36,920
Speaker 2: by the way, he's super popular. Everybody loves him, so

683
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Speaker 2: you kind of put Jacksonville a little more on the map. However,

684
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Speaker 2: we had Marlon Humphrey, the great Ravens defensive back last week,

685
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Speaker 2: who said, Travis Hunter, I don't know about going both ways.

686
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Speaker 3: Here's Marlon Humphrey.

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Speaker 4: To do both It seems very mission impossible esque.

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Speaker 7: You know, I think Dion obviously did a little bit

689
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Speaker 7: of it, you know, back in his day, but I

690
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Speaker 7: just think the game has changed so much since then.

691
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Speaker 7: Dion was clearly light and day the fastest guy out there.

692
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Speaker 7: Nowadays everybody's fast. I think he's really got a tough

693
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Speaker 7: challenge ahead. I think eventually he will realize, Man, it's

694
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Speaker 7: really really hard to do this at a high level

695
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Speaker 7: where every week you're playing a top NFL team. It's

696
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Speaker 7: not like college where you know, there is teams on

697
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Speaker 7: everyone's roster, where it's like this should be a pretty

698
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Speaker 7: easy game, and that's just not the case.

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Speaker 5: In the NFL.

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Speaker 7: I hope he has success with it, and I hope

701
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Speaker 7: he just decides it's just too much for me as

702
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Speaker 7: opposed to you know, he kind of struggles with it.

703
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Speaker 3: Yeah, and I totally agree with Marlon Humphrey.

704
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Speaker 2: By the way, I don't know that many other people

705
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Speaker 2: are advising him against this. Everybody's endorsing it as being positive,

706
00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:47,920
Speaker 2: and I get it, you want to be positive. By

707
00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:50,480
Speaker 2: the way, this is how popular Travis Hunter is. After

708
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Speaker 2: we had on Marlon Humphrey last week, I said, I

709
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Speaker 2: agreed with him. I got a DM from my guy

710
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Speaker 2: low Wayne, the rapper who has appeared on this network

711
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Speaker 2: plenty of times, and he's like, hey, man, that's my guy.

712
00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:03,400
Speaker 2: You gotta stop putting him down. Why you guys hating

713
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Speaker 2: on him? And we're not hating on Travis Hunter. He's

714
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Speaker 2: a great athlete. But the idea that he's gonna go

715
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Speaker 2: out on the first defensive series and try to tackle

716
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Speaker 2: running backs in space and then chase wide receivers and

717
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Speaker 2: then hey, we're on offense, go out there and run

718
00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:21,680
Speaker 2: round that's insane. That's way too much pressure on a

719
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Speaker 2: young kid. And I looked at the Jags schedule. Okay,

720
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Speaker 2: so you know what's gonna happen. Travis Hunter can play

721
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Speaker 2: both ways against the Carolina Panthers in the opener, he.

722
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Speaker 3: Can do that.

723
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Speaker 2: He probably will excel. Carolina's not a great offense. You know,

724
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Speaker 2: Bryce Young doesn't have many weapons, they don't have a

725
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Speaker 2: running back that scares you.

726
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Speaker 3: He can do that in the.

727
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Speaker 2: Opener and everybody's gonna see I told you guys, he

728
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Speaker 2: can do it, and I'd be happy for Week two

729
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Speaker 2: Cincinnati Bengals. He's gonna be chasing around Jamar Chase and

730
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Speaker 2: or T Higgins.

731
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Speaker 3: That's a tall order. And then he's gonna be running routes.

732
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Speaker 2: Week three, Hello Nico Collins, who emerged last year before

733
00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:09,400
Speaker 2: the injury. It's one of the best receivers in the league. Okay,

734
00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:12,360
Speaker 2: and CJ. Stroud, you know, likes to chuck and duck.

735
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Speaker 2: Week four, San Francisco forty nine Ers, hey man, we

736
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Speaker 2: need you to tackle Christian McCaffrey at George Kittle's gonna

737
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Speaker 2: be blocking you good looking around him, and then we

738
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Speaker 2: need you to chase around I you Cor Jennings or

739
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Speaker 2: whoever they got a receiver.

740
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Speaker 3: Not gonna be easy.

741
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Speaker 2: Week five, Kansas City Chiefs, hey man, Isaiah Pacheco.

742
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Speaker 3: A few guys run as hard as him.

743
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Speaker 2: Need you to get him in space, wrap him up,

744
00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:39,240
Speaker 2: no pile inspector stuff.

745
00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:40,280
Speaker 3: You got to get in there and wrap.

746
00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:43,520
Speaker 2: And then I need you chasing around Xavier Worthy, one

747
00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:44,720
Speaker 2: of the fastest players in the league.

748
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Speaker 3: And Rashid Rice over the middle.

749
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Speaker 2: You just look at the schedule and you're like, Okay,

750
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Speaker 2: Travis Hunter makes out for a week and maybe he

751
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Speaker 2: has a splash play or two against Jamar Chase or

752
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Speaker 2: Xavier Worthy or Rashi Rice, but that schedule is Bruce, Guys,

753
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Speaker 2: I just don't like this for Travis Hunter, and I

754
00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:05,120
Speaker 2: like the kid.

755
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Speaker 3: He might be rookie the year. I just think it's

756
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Speaker 3: too much for a young guy.

757
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Speaker 4: All right.

758
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Speaker 2: Coming up next, former NBA center Ryan Hollins drops by, listen,

759
00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:15,880
Speaker 2: this Lebron.

760
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Speaker 3: Stuff is concerning everybody. He's near the end. He's carrying

761
00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:20,200
Speaker 3: the league for fifteen years.

762
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Speaker 2: What does Ryan Hollins have to say about the goat

763
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Speaker 2: that's next year on the Herd?

764
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Speaker 8: Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays

765
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Speaker 8: and noon Easter not a Empacific.

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Speaker 10: All right.

767
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Speaker 2: He's spent ten seasons in the NBA with nine different

768
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Speaker 2: teams at some clean livin.

769
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Speaker 3: Let's welcome in Ryan Hollins.

770
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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio every Sunday, nine am Easter. Look at

771
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Speaker 2: my guy sitting in his Elon muskmobile with with the

772
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Speaker 2: shades on, looking tough.

773
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Speaker 3: How hot is that Houston heat?

774
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Speaker 7: Was it?

775
00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:52,800
Speaker 3: One? Ten?

776
00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:55,400
Speaker 5: Is burning up?

777
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Speaker 7: Man?

778
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Speaker 10: I'm over in the gym with my guy, Justin Allen

779
00:33:57,880 --> 00:33:59,720
Speaker 10: over in Houston, and you are right, man, it is.

780
00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:02,440
Speaker 5: By the humidity is different for this California boy.

781
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Speaker 2: Man.

782
00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:04,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, you got to get back to Cali. Baby.

783
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Speaker 2: A little too hot in Houston, by the way, I

784
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Speaker 2: will say, speaking of hot how good did Reed Shepherd

785
00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:13,120
Speaker 2: look in Summer League. He's out here frying guys. He's

786
00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:14,800
Speaker 2: going to be big in the rotation for the Rockets

787
00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:15,399
Speaker 2: this year, right.

788
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Speaker 5: He's gonna be huge. He's right now?

789
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Speaker 10: Is everybody assessus Houston's Rocket roster? You like to say

790
00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:26,560
Speaker 10: that he can be the most pivotal piece. You know,

791
00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:30,360
Speaker 10: everyone's looking to what he can do. And last season,

792
00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:33,480
Speaker 10: the biggest frustration I would say, wasn't you know that

793
00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:36,200
Speaker 10: Reid wasn't talented or didn't have the IQ. He knows

794
00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:38,239
Speaker 10: everywhere that he's supposed to be on the floor. You know,

795
00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:40,560
Speaker 10: it's the other way, you know. I never had these

796
00:34:40,600 --> 00:34:42,560
Speaker 10: problems with j Mac. They're like shoot the ball more,

797
00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:45,440
Speaker 10: you know, let it rip, let the ball fly. So

798
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Speaker 10: at Summer League you can see the big emphasis for

799
00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:51,920
Speaker 10: Reid to look for his shot, and he's got a

800
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Speaker 10: unique skill set.

801
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Speaker 5: Comparable J Mac.

802
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Speaker 10: Don't go crazy when I say this, Oh go crazy

803
00:34:57,440 --> 00:35:00,920
Speaker 10: when I say this, Okay, comparable to have Curry in

804
00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:04,000
Speaker 10: the sinse of the smaller guard Jay Man, Come on, bro,

805
00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:08,200
Speaker 10: that's not I said comparable. I didn't say he's Curry,

806
00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:11,560
Speaker 10: but he can get his shot off off the bounce.

807
00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:14,520
Speaker 10: He has a very quick release, and you see why

808
00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:16,759
Speaker 10: he's encouraged to shoot the ball more. And that's one

809
00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:19,640
Speaker 10: thing that Houston really needed. That you have the defense,

810
00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:22,560
Speaker 10: the rebounding, but the three point shooting, which would open

811
00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:25,800
Speaker 10: up the four for guys like Durant and Van Vliet

812
00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:28,080
Speaker 10: and men Thompson and Shingoon.

813
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Speaker 5: Inside, stop laughing.

814
00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:34,360
Speaker 3: Man, Sorry, sorry for laughing. Obviously that wasn't a comparison.

815
00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:39,360
Speaker 2: I'll say Shepherd's game is clean, smooth, nice. It looks

816
00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:41,720
Speaker 2: like he has worked on these moves like Kobe Bryant

817
00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:44,120
Speaker 2: over the years, Like Kobe's moves are just so smooth,

818
00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:46,640
Speaker 2: it's like it's perfected. Now it is only summer league,

819
00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:49,600
Speaker 2: let's seehim do it against elite NBA players.

820
00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:51,839
Speaker 3: But all right, one last thing on summer league before

821
00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:52,239
Speaker 3: we move on.

822
00:35:53,239 --> 00:35:56,560
Speaker 2: Cooper Flag looked I thought fine in the opener, A

823
00:35:56,560 --> 00:35:58,560
Speaker 2: lot of people were saying more mid five for twenty

824
00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:01,080
Speaker 2: one shooting, and then he was off for thirty one

825
00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:05,800
Speaker 2: against the Spurs, just dunk after dunk off the dribble bombs,

826
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Speaker 2: like that's the real Cooper Flag. How impressed were you?

827
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Speaker 10: I was extremely impressed with Cooper Flag, and I think

828
00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:16,680
Speaker 10: it's a great call by Dallas. You know, the one

829
00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:18,959
Speaker 10: reason he has one reason to be in Summer League,

830
00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:21,239
Speaker 10: not just to show the fans and pay it off

831
00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:23,160
Speaker 10: because it's just a part of our game and the

832
00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:27,120
Speaker 10: way that it's played, but to have confidence. He is

833
00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:29,919
Speaker 10: gaining confidence in that second game where he went off

834
00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:33,120
Speaker 10: was great. And then Cooper Flagg being the number one pick,

835
00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:34,919
Speaker 10: he's the guy that the media is going.

836
00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:35,680
Speaker 5: To be all over. You know.

837
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Speaker 10: Unfortunately for Sarrow last year and the kid over in Atlanta,

838
00:36:41,239 --> 00:36:43,799
Speaker 10: you know, everybody was talking about Bronnie James. He took

839
00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:47,359
Speaker 10: that pressure. But this year, Cooper Flag undisputedly is the guy.

840
00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:50,160
Speaker 10: So you get him feeling good, he's positive, they're excellent.

841
00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:52,520
Speaker 10: Storylines are going to be going around him. And the

842
00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:55,680
Speaker 10: one thing that I take away and we saw this

843
00:36:56,080 --> 00:36:59,080
Speaker 10: is for Cooper Flag, He's in the perfect situation in Dallas.

844
00:36:59,239 --> 00:37:01,520
Speaker 10: He's not going to be great creating off the dribble,

845
00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:05,480
Speaker 10: just going one on one, but he excels in the

846
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Speaker 10: open floor.

847
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Speaker 5: He brings it out a lot of length and.

848
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Speaker 10: I think for the mistakes or you know, rookie understanding

849
00:37:12,719 --> 00:37:14,440
Speaker 10: of where to be on the floor, you know, you

850
00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:18,040
Speaker 10: got Anthony Davis behind you, you got Gafford behind you.

851
00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:20,400
Speaker 5: You know you got those Derek Lively behind you, have

852
00:37:20,520 --> 00:37:21,360
Speaker 5: those big bodies.

853
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Speaker 10: So I think he's going to be excellent over there

854
00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:25,919
Speaker 10: in Dallas, and that if you defend, you can get

855
00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:26,479
Speaker 10: out and run.

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Speaker 5: And one thing Dallas wants to do is play a

857
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Speaker 5: lot faster.

858
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Speaker 3: All right, Ryan, I'm work shopping a take.

859
00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:35,800
Speaker 2: So the Bucks, you know, they probably should trade Giannis,

860
00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:38,719
Speaker 2: but they don't want to, right, So let's go over

861
00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:41,120
Speaker 2: pay Miles Turner, which is a bad deal. That Damian

862
00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:43,239
Speaker 2: low is in disaster. They're not going to be good,

863
00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:46,680
Speaker 2: but they're keeping Jannis for now. The Denver Nuggets are

864
00:37:46,719 --> 00:37:48,759
Speaker 2: doing the opposite. We got to do everything we can

865
00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:52,839
Speaker 2: to keep Yokic, right, Let's get Cam Johnson like Tim

866
00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:55,600
Speaker 2: Hardaway Junior. Let's get we actually have a bench this year,

867
00:37:56,440 --> 00:37:59,160
Speaker 2: and Jokic said, no, thank you to the extension this year.

868
00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:01,440
Speaker 2: Let me see how we do now. Obviously you can

869
00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:03,839
Speaker 2: make more money next year. But I'm just curious. Are

870
00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:07,680
Speaker 2: we seeing a different approach toward keeping these European stars,

871
00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:09,680
Speaker 2: because even the Lakers with Luca Hey.

872
00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:12,520
Speaker 3: We don't want to commit to anybody long term. Lebron.

873
00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:16,160
Speaker 2: Sorry, so we're seeing, like Luka, Jannison, Jokicic, the three

874
00:38:16,239 --> 00:38:19,000
Speaker 2: next pillars in the league and how teams are trying

875
00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:21,480
Speaker 2: to keep them or build around them. I'm just curious

876
00:38:21,520 --> 00:38:24,080
Speaker 2: your thoughts about team building in regards to those three.

877
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Speaker 10: Well, the one thing that you have to understand, j

878
00:38:27,640 --> 00:38:29,439
Speaker 10: mac is is you don't want to go back into

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Speaker 10: the ice ages of development and tanking.

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Speaker 5: We'll just call it for what it is.

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Speaker 10: And if you're not one of these mega markets, you

882
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Speaker 10: can use this JAMC.

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Speaker 5: If you're not one of these mega.

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Speaker 10: Markets and you have one of these mega stars, you

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00:38:43,880 --> 00:38:46,560
Speaker 10: gotta sign the nassis to keep them. You got to

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00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:50,320
Speaker 10: be aggressive in free agency. You gotta make these moves

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Speaker 10: because they mean that much. And even more so, you know,

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Speaker 10: following the heels of Lebron James, these stars know their

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Speaker 10: value and they're willing to go. So you know, with

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Speaker 10: the stars of the past would stay put, you can

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Speaker 10: build around them. You know there wasn't movement gonna be there. Uh,

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Speaker 10: these guys get it. So I'm all in for Milwaukee. Giannis.

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Speaker 10: Is that darn good that you go and you make

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Speaker 10: moves And it was a historical buyout with Damian Lillard.

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Speaker 10: That's not the best thing obviously for the franchise moving forward,

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Speaker 10: but for Giannis, you want to stay competitive, and you

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Speaker 10: look at the injuries in the Eastern Conference. Giannis out

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Speaker 10: to the Coupo has to be looking over and saying, Okay,

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Speaker 10: I lose Lopez, but.

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Speaker 5: I get I get a guy a.

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Speaker 10: Little younger, the guy who can block shots the same,

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Speaker 10: and I can go pound for pound for the best,

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Speaker 10: the best of them in the East.

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Speaker 5: And now you put a chip on my shoulders.

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Speaker 10: So they get a buy out with with Anthony goes

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Speaker 10: over there from Memphis sou I'm telling you, man, I'm

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Speaker 10: not completely against it.

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Speaker 5: They're settling for the now.

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Speaker 2: Wow, col So Cole Anthony could start. I don't know, Ryan,

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Speaker 2: I like how you're hyping the bus. But hey, how

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Speaker 2: about this. We didn't even get unto Lebron. You know,

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Speaker 2: there's just not enough time. Uh yeah, so or anyways,

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Speaker 2: Ryan Hollins, the former end a Center Fox Sports radio star,

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Speaker 2: enjoy the summer and the heat, stay cool.

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Speaker 3: In Houston, Ryan, I'd rather talk to him.

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Speaker 2: Good stuff, Ryan Hans. I was gonna tell him they

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Speaker 2: could you text Lebron and tell him Lebron just just

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Speaker 2: just chill like it's gonna be fine. Start talking to

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Speaker 2: the media, all right. Coming up next, we got kind

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Speaker 2: of a controversial top ten quarterback NFL list floating around,

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Speaker 2: so I'm giving you my version of it, obviously more accurate.