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Speaker 3: Pread Show The Bachelorette.

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Speaker 4: Contestants from Taylor Frankie Paul's canceled season took to social

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Speaker 4: but posting videos watching blank TV screens. One former suitor,

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Speaker 4: Another ex contestant, Johnny LaRosa, posted a video of his

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Speaker 2: Remember we're supposed to feel bad for these contestants. Yes, yes,

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Speaker 2: I think because you're shot at Influencer Deals is over now.

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Speaker 4: And then also one of them was going to be

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Speaker 4: I'll But is there no chance that she's learned and

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Speaker 2: And whether again that's to get her endorsements back, or

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Speaker 3: He literally called her the S word.

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Speaker 4: And said, you slept at this man too early, and

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Speaker 2: Very no matter what angle you look at. I think

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Speaker 2: have gone on the Bachelorette. She was not ready all season.

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Speaker 2: But for them for ABC to be at the last minute,

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Speaker 2: and it's one more example of him controlling her with manipulation,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's the whole thing. Sick. It's sick.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, yeah, it's you guys need to watch this.

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Speaker 2: But only the only thing I thought about was that kid.

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Speaker 2: I don't care about any of the rest of it.

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Speaker 1: It's just the only time we've seen it.

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Speaker 3: I've been the kid.

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Speaker 4: I've also been in a situation with abuse, and so

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Speaker 3: She should have never been the bachelorette, and I feel

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Speaker 4: But I also I am worried that their son is

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Speaker 4: now with Dakota, only because.

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Speaker 3: I don't trust him either. So I guess we got

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Speaker 3: to probably move.

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Speaker 2: Someone said this sounds like victim blamy. Absolutely, it's the

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Speaker 2: exact opposite of victim blood Are we've no, I just

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Speaker 2: I just said, they're both idiots, and they both need help.

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Speaker 1: They both need help.

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Speaker 2: They both need to see this, and they need to

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Speaker 2: get off social media and they need to figure this out.

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Speaker 1: They say that they're families their children. No, no one is.

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Speaker 3: No, he's a child is the only victim.

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Speaker 2: They're probably all victims. Quite frankly, the whole thing's sad. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: but no, this isn't one person's fault to the other.

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Speaker 2: That someone needs to intervene.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, a small snapshot of a fight.

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Speaker 4: I just think now the whole world's commenting it makes

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Speaker 4: me really sad.

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Speaker 3: But yes, the child is the only victim.

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Speaker 4: I guess I'll move on The Freend Show on demand

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Speaker 4: if you want to catch up on anything you missed.

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Speaker 2: And by the way, they're not they're not idiots for

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Speaker 2: being in this situation or for falling into a toxic cycle.

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Speaker 2: I think I think it's all being played out so publicly,

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Speaker 2: and it's like and again, I've been watching this show

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Speaker 2: for seasons now, so they figured out a way to

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Speaker 2: sort of monetize this toxicity and elevate it.

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Speaker 1: And it's it's really sad to see.

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Speaker 3: You're think the camera baiting herself. He's still talking to

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Speaker 3: her the whole time.

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Speaker 2: No, it's not good, All all right. Show by Shelley

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Speaker 2: is up next. One hundred bucks she's never lost to

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Speaker 2: in a row. We'll see what happens today. We'll get

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Speaker 2: to waiting by the phone. The Entertainment Report headlines fun fact.

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