1 00:00:02,640 --> 00:00:06,039 Speaker 1: Preseason game number two, and it will be a challenge, 2 00:00:06,160 --> 00:00:09,680 Speaker 1: no doubt. Welcome Bird Gang. On today's show, Zach Gershman 3 00:00:09,800 --> 00:00:12,640 Speaker 1: joins me, got the defending Super Bowl champions in town 4 00:00:12,720 --> 00:00:15,600 Speaker 1: this weekend. That would be the Kansas City Chiefs, who 5 00:00:15,720 --> 00:00:18,360 Speaker 1: just six months ago walked out of State Farm Stadium 6 00:00:18,360 --> 00:00:22,279 Speaker 1: with the Lombardi Trophy. The week of preparation has been different, 7 00:00:22,480 --> 00:00:26,119 Speaker 1: at least compared to the previous three weeks. It's Cardinals 8 00:00:26,160 --> 00:00:31,479 Speaker 1: Cover two, Episode six sixty three, and it starts now. 9 00:00:32,960 --> 00:00:34,760 Speaker 2: Welcome to Cardinals Cover two. 10 00:00:34,960 --> 00:00:35,839 Speaker 1: Budda Baker? 11 00:00:36,159 --> 00:00:37,800 Speaker 2: What Heart? What rent? 12 00:00:37,960 --> 00:00:39,360 Speaker 1: This guy's unbelievable. 13 00:00:39,560 --> 00:00:43,760 Speaker 2: Cardinals Cover two is presented by Hyundai, proud partner of 14 00:00:43,800 --> 00:00:49,640 Speaker 2: the Arizona Cardinals, and by Arizona Cardinals Podcasts. Visit Azycardinals 15 00:00:49,640 --> 00:00:51,400 Speaker 2: dot com Slash podcasts. 16 00:00:51,479 --> 00:00:52,840 Speaker 3: He's a a ten half of five. 17 00:00:52,960 --> 00:00:55,960 Speaker 1: He's it again, So more Harry Magic. 18 00:00:56,160 --> 00:00:58,840 Speaker 2: Whoa, here's Craig Grioloud. 19 00:01:03,240 --> 00:01:06,840 Speaker 1: Wait a second, what are you doing, Zach? You were 20 00:01:06,959 --> 00:01:11,160 Speaker 1: across for me like thirty seconds ago. Now you're closer 21 00:01:11,200 --> 00:01:13,560 Speaker 1: to Matt that I don't like you. But no, you 22 00:01:13,560 --> 00:01:16,560 Speaker 1: can say you don't like it. We have this buffer. 23 00:01:16,720 --> 00:01:19,680 Speaker 1: We have this long table that can separate the two 24 00:01:19,680 --> 00:01:22,319 Speaker 1: of us, and yet here you are immediately to my right. 25 00:01:22,440 --> 00:01:25,880 Speaker 3: I just can't believe we're starting this podcast like this 26 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:29,479 Speaker 3: crag like we They don't see me right now, they 27 00:01:29,480 --> 00:01:32,440 Speaker 3: don't see that. I just sat and Jonathan led Better sweat. 28 00:01:32,760 --> 00:01:34,560 Speaker 1: You need to paint the picture. Okay. 29 00:01:34,680 --> 00:01:37,399 Speaker 3: So I just sat and Jonathan led Better sweat, And 30 00:01:37,480 --> 00:01:41,160 Speaker 3: now I mean JG's wants to blood sweat the tears. 31 00:01:41,400 --> 00:01:44,240 Speaker 3: I got the sweat part down, pat courtesy that led Better. 32 00:01:44,440 --> 00:01:47,920 Speaker 1: All right, Well, let's give everyone the full story here. 33 00:01:48,120 --> 00:01:52,880 Speaker 1: Jonathan Ledbetter in studio before our show, Cardinals covered two 34 00:01:52,880 --> 00:01:55,600 Speaker 1: percents of by Hyundai, probably partner of the Arizona Cardinals 35 00:01:55,640 --> 00:01:58,960 Speaker 1: because he is this week's guest on the Big Red 36 00:01:59,040 --> 00:02:04,080 Speaker 1: Rage Practice ended. In speaking to Practice, I'll say this, 37 00:02:04,240 --> 00:02:06,680 Speaker 1: I said it earlier in the week, Zach. I prefer 38 00:02:07,160 --> 00:02:12,200 Speaker 1: Cards camp in Glendale versus Tempe because it's air conditioned 39 00:02:12,240 --> 00:02:15,280 Speaker 1: inside State Farm Stadium. There is no air conditioning outside 40 00:02:15,320 --> 00:02:15,919 Speaker 1: in Tempee. 41 00:02:15,960 --> 00:02:18,919 Speaker 3: So this is my one month anniversary of starting here 42 00:02:18,919 --> 00:02:21,440 Speaker 3: with the Arizona Cardinals. So happy anniversary to me. Thank 43 00:02:21,480 --> 00:02:24,560 Speaker 3: you very much, congratulations, thank you, thank you, and you 44 00:02:24,639 --> 00:02:27,720 Speaker 3: guys really shielded me from this Arizona heat. I thought 45 00:02:27,720 --> 00:02:30,040 Speaker 3: I was getting treated out there and State farmed. The 46 00:02:30,120 --> 00:02:32,600 Speaker 3: walk from the car into the stadium was hot in 47 00:02:32,639 --> 00:02:35,680 Speaker 3: and of itself, and then it's just jump right into 48 00:02:35,760 --> 00:02:38,959 Speaker 3: the heat. And it's not even like hot heat. It's 49 00:02:39,000 --> 00:02:41,360 Speaker 3: like burning on you type heat like in the East 50 00:02:41,440 --> 00:02:44,000 Speaker 3: Coast where I'm used to everything, it's like you feel 51 00:02:44,040 --> 00:02:46,280 Speaker 3: your humidity. You don't want to be outside then either, 52 00:02:46,760 --> 00:02:49,400 Speaker 3: But here, I mean, thank god, there was trees and 53 00:02:49,440 --> 00:02:52,280 Speaker 3: there was shade, but the shades, the leaves still move 54 00:02:52,320 --> 00:02:54,040 Speaker 3: out the way and you still feel that sun, and 55 00:02:54,120 --> 00:02:56,480 Speaker 3: I still feel that burned. They call it a dry heat, 56 00:02:56,720 --> 00:03:00,320 Speaker 3: though this week it felt literally like an a Then 57 00:03:00,760 --> 00:03:04,079 Speaker 3: the humidity was a little bit higher. There was hardly 58 00:03:04,120 --> 00:03:08,639 Speaker 3: any breeze, as we complain about being outside at triple digits, 59 00:03:08,680 --> 00:03:12,360 Speaker 3: and yes, the sky was clear just when you're standing 60 00:03:12,520 --> 00:03:16,919 Speaker 3: and there's no natural breeze. Yeah, it was again first 61 00:03:16,919 --> 00:03:21,800 Speaker 3: world problems. A little difficult watching practice this week, and 62 00:03:21,840 --> 00:03:24,800 Speaker 3: that is why Jonathan ledbetter when he came into studio. 63 00:03:24,880 --> 00:03:27,000 Speaker 3: It was literally right off the practice field. I mean 64 00:03:27,080 --> 00:03:29,639 Speaker 3: I was sweating too, but I've had time to cool off, 65 00:03:29,639 --> 00:03:32,160 Speaker 3: and I was not going against an offensive line, So 66 00:03:32,600 --> 00:03:34,679 Speaker 3: I mean, listen, it's a give and take. 67 00:03:34,880 --> 00:03:35,760 Speaker 1: I understand. 68 00:03:36,480 --> 00:03:38,920 Speaker 3: Nick Rowis came into the press conference room right away. 69 00:03:38,920 --> 00:03:41,160 Speaker 3: It was like it is hot out there. I mean 70 00:03:41,200 --> 00:03:44,080 Speaker 3: he is wearing a hoodie, so I understand. But us 71 00:03:44,080 --> 00:03:47,200 Speaker 3: and polos and shorts it's hot too. 72 00:03:47,640 --> 00:03:50,800 Speaker 1: It was not like this during the offseason as far 73 00:03:50,840 --> 00:03:54,120 Speaker 1: as OTA's in mini camp, it was not nearly this 74 00:03:54,400 --> 00:03:57,560 Speaker 1: unbearable as far as just how thick the air was. 75 00:03:57,600 --> 00:04:00,280 Speaker 1: And in course, you move into late July or early 76 00:04:00,320 --> 00:04:02,840 Speaker 1: August and you go into State Farms Stadium, the air 77 00:04:02,840 --> 00:04:06,240 Speaker 1: conditioning on. Of course this week which again a dry 78 00:04:06,320 --> 00:04:11,440 Speaker 1: heat during what JG called a dry run because they 79 00:04:11,600 --> 00:04:15,920 Speaker 1: broke cards camp in State Farm Stadium a week early. 80 00:04:16,000 --> 00:04:18,359 Speaker 1: This is still, at least to me training camp. But 81 00:04:18,400 --> 00:04:21,240 Speaker 1: now they're doing in Tempe a week before or I 82 00:04:21,240 --> 00:04:24,279 Speaker 1: should say the week leading up to preseason game number two, 83 00:04:24,520 --> 00:04:28,479 Speaker 1: and this is a dry run to what Gannon and 84 00:04:28,520 --> 00:04:31,760 Speaker 1: his coaches kind of want or think the regular season 85 00:04:31,880 --> 00:04:34,839 Speaker 1: schedule will be like. Meaning you have a walk through 86 00:04:34,839 --> 00:04:37,880 Speaker 1: in the bubble, team stretch in the bubble, go outside 87 00:04:38,320 --> 00:04:41,800 Speaker 1: for position drills, some seven on seven and eleven on 88 00:04:41,839 --> 00:04:45,120 Speaker 1: eleven special teams work, maybe you go back in the bubble, 89 00:04:45,200 --> 00:04:48,600 Speaker 1: maybe you just do everything outside. But this seems to 90 00:04:48,640 --> 00:04:51,560 Speaker 1: be what the schedule will be once you get to 91 00:04:51,600 --> 00:04:55,280 Speaker 1: the regular season, and that is mainly outside, maybe a 92 00:04:55,279 --> 00:04:57,400 Speaker 1: little bit earlier in the day as opposed to late 93 00:04:57,440 --> 00:05:01,560 Speaker 1: afternoon practices. But I like it, and listening to a 94 00:05:01,600 --> 00:05:04,440 Speaker 1: lot of the players, Zach, it doesn't seem like a 95 00:05:04,480 --> 00:05:08,240 Speaker 1: lot of them had experienced a dry run in the 96 00:05:08,279 --> 00:05:09,559 Speaker 1: midst of training camp. 97 00:05:09,640 --> 00:05:12,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's been something that JG has tried to 98 00:05:12,240 --> 00:05:15,279 Speaker 3: incorporate by saying, we know that the heat's not leaving 99 00:05:15,360 --> 00:05:17,680 Speaker 3: us anytime soon, so we got to get acclimated to 100 00:05:17,720 --> 00:05:20,039 Speaker 3: it right now. And with the team going to Minnesota 101 00:05:20,160 --> 00:05:23,160 Speaker 3: next week, they recognize that the first time that they 102 00:05:23,200 --> 00:05:24,760 Speaker 3: that they're going to be on the heat, they don't 103 00:05:24,800 --> 00:05:27,520 Speaker 3: want it to be when you're seeing an opposition. They 104 00:05:27,560 --> 00:05:30,360 Speaker 3: don't want it to see when you're at these joint practices. 105 00:05:30,600 --> 00:05:33,320 Speaker 3: So getting it started here and Colt McCoy has been 106 00:05:33,400 --> 00:05:35,440 Speaker 3: very complimentary of saying that this is a dry run 107 00:05:35,520 --> 00:05:37,240 Speaker 3: is like we're getting ready for the season. Same with 108 00:05:37,520 --> 00:05:40,840 Speaker 3: DJ Humphries. Michael Wilson talked a little bit about it 109 00:05:40,880 --> 00:05:43,679 Speaker 3: today from a rookiees perspective. Yell defer Holt was talking 110 00:05:43,680 --> 00:05:46,039 Speaker 3: about it from the offensive line perspective as well, that 111 00:05:46,480 --> 00:05:48,440 Speaker 3: they're getting used to it. They're getting used to these 112 00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:52,279 Speaker 3: dry runs. It's not as much watching film as much 113 00:05:52,320 --> 00:05:55,880 Speaker 3: as it is preparing yourself for your team, focusing on 114 00:05:55,920 --> 00:05:58,159 Speaker 3: your guys. But the focus still is on the Kansas 115 00:05:58,160 --> 00:05:59,320 Speaker 3: City Chiefs for this Saturday. 116 00:05:59,440 --> 00:06:02,880 Speaker 1: It's about the process. What does it operation? Yes, what 117 00:06:02,920 --> 00:06:06,120 Speaker 1: does it take to get to Sunday? And that's what 118 00:06:06,760 --> 00:06:12,440 Speaker 1: the NFL is. It's Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday 119 00:06:12,440 --> 00:06:16,360 Speaker 1: game on Sunday. And the athlete loves the routine and 120 00:06:16,440 --> 00:06:19,320 Speaker 1: this is to try to get the Cardinals and the 121 00:06:19,320 --> 00:06:23,919 Speaker 1: coaches and everyone else into that routine. Week one at Washington. 122 00:06:23,960 --> 00:06:26,160 Speaker 1: But this week, as you mentioned, you got the defending 123 00:06:26,160 --> 00:06:29,719 Speaker 1: Super Bowl champion Kansas City Chiefs in town. Saturday night 124 00:06:29,800 --> 00:06:33,240 Speaker 1: at State Farm Stadium. Five o'clock is the kickoff. Remember 125 00:06:33,279 --> 00:06:36,520 Speaker 1: the preseason opener on Friday was at seven pm. This 126 00:06:36,680 --> 00:06:41,280 Speaker 1: game on Saturday, five o'clock, one thirty pregame coverage begins, 127 00:06:41,400 --> 00:06:44,600 Speaker 1: and yes, the Super Bowl champs in town. It was 128 00:06:44,760 --> 00:06:48,120 Speaker 1: what six months ago they walked out of State Farm 129 00:06:48,160 --> 00:06:50,960 Speaker 1: Stadium with that Lombardi Trophy, and here they are once 130 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:54,560 Speaker 1: again in preseason game number two, which, at least from 131 00:06:54,600 --> 00:06:58,680 Speaker 1: the Chiefs standpoint, Andy Reid has said the starters will 132 00:06:58,720 --> 00:07:02,640 Speaker 1: play the entire first at least that is his plan 133 00:07:03,080 --> 00:07:05,719 Speaker 1: going it. Maybe something happens and he pulls some guys, 134 00:07:05,720 --> 00:07:08,360 Speaker 1: but the plan is is for the ones to play 135 00:07:08,360 --> 00:07:10,120 Speaker 1: the first half and then they'll mix in the twos 136 00:07:10,120 --> 00:07:13,320 Speaker 1: and threes in the second half. As of this recording 137 00:07:13,400 --> 00:07:16,920 Speaker 1: here on Thursday of game week, we don't quite know 138 00:07:17,040 --> 00:07:20,200 Speaker 1: exactly what the Cardinals plan is. Even if there was 139 00:07:20,400 --> 00:07:24,120 Speaker 1: availability on Friday, we wouldn't know what the Cardinals plan 140 00:07:24,240 --> 00:07:27,040 Speaker 1: is because JG just does not share that with us 141 00:07:27,080 --> 00:07:27,680 Speaker 1: ahead of time. 142 00:07:28,040 --> 00:07:30,280 Speaker 3: Until I mean to go back a little bit to 143 00:07:30,320 --> 00:07:32,520 Speaker 3: what you were saying about the Kansas State Chiefs. Pretty sure. 144 00:07:32,520 --> 00:07:35,440 Speaker 3: They started the season last year at State Farm Stadium 145 00:07:35,480 --> 00:07:39,520 Speaker 3: as well against the Cardinals, So they're playing as many 146 00:07:39,640 --> 00:07:42,400 Speaker 3: games as any other team in the NFL in State 147 00:07:42,400 --> 00:07:45,160 Speaker 3: Farm Stadium, beat behind the Arizona Cardinals. 148 00:07:45,520 --> 00:07:48,960 Speaker 1: They began the season at State Farm Stadium and ended 149 00:07:49,240 --> 00:07:50,880 Speaker 1: the season at State Farm Stadium. 150 00:07:50,920 --> 00:07:52,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, and I was there for that last one. They 151 00:07:52,680 --> 00:07:55,800 Speaker 3: definitely seemed to be happy leaving that stadium with the 152 00:07:55,840 --> 00:08:00,000 Speaker 3: Lombardi but coming back into the stadium, so was Nick Robin. 153 00:08:00,160 --> 00:08:02,680 Speaker 3: So is Jonathan Gannon. They were both on those on 154 00:08:02,720 --> 00:08:06,440 Speaker 3: the sidelines for that last game against Kansasity Chiefs. Obviously 155 00:08:06,640 --> 00:08:09,560 Speaker 3: they were on the Philadelphia Eagle sideline. But going into 156 00:08:09,600 --> 00:08:12,080 Speaker 3: this game, Nick Rowlis said, he's got he's not taking 157 00:08:12,160 --> 00:08:15,960 Speaker 3: anything away from what they last had at the Super Bowl. 158 00:08:16,120 --> 00:08:19,000 Speaker 3: This is an entirely new group, entirely new staff. He's 159 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:22,480 Speaker 3: got an entirely new role, as does Jonathan Gannon. And 160 00:08:22,520 --> 00:08:25,480 Speaker 3: when you compete against the reigning Super Bowl champions and 161 00:08:25,800 --> 00:08:30,240 Speaker 3: you're expected to see Patrick Mahomes and Travis Kelcey and 162 00:08:30,320 --> 00:08:32,440 Speaker 3: all the other stars that the Kansas City Chiefs have 163 00:08:32,480 --> 00:08:34,560 Speaker 3: on their sideline, as well as one of the best 164 00:08:34,559 --> 00:08:37,640 Speaker 3: coaches of all time in Andy Reid, you're gonna want 165 00:08:37,640 --> 00:08:39,720 Speaker 3: to have that competition. Nick Rolis said how much he 166 00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:43,320 Speaker 3: loves competition. And when you have these training camps against 167 00:08:43,320 --> 00:08:47,320 Speaker 3: the Minnesota Vikings, okay, that's one thing, but competition is 168 00:08:47,360 --> 00:08:49,720 Speaker 3: one thing in of itself. When it's game time. 169 00:08:49,760 --> 00:08:52,440 Speaker 1: It will be a great as they say, measuring stick, 170 00:08:52,600 --> 00:08:55,600 Speaker 1: where do the Cardinals stack up against the Chiefs, And yes, 171 00:08:55,640 --> 00:08:58,360 Speaker 1: it is a preseason game. I don't think there's a 172 00:08:58,400 --> 00:09:01,360 Speaker 1: lot of game planning as far as what do the 173 00:09:01,440 --> 00:09:03,680 Speaker 1: Chiefs do well? All right, how do we combat that? 174 00:09:03,800 --> 00:09:06,720 Speaker 1: Because right now the Cardinals aren't still they're not quite 175 00:09:06,760 --> 00:09:10,200 Speaker 1: a team yet. It's still ninety players trying to whittle 176 00:09:10,240 --> 00:09:13,160 Speaker 1: down to fifty three plus a practice squad. So as 177 00:09:13,200 --> 00:09:15,600 Speaker 1: we've heard from coaches and players, it is more about 178 00:09:15,720 --> 00:09:19,400 Speaker 1: us than it is them. Yet, how do the Cardinals 179 00:09:19,440 --> 00:09:23,120 Speaker 1: stack up against the Chiefs and that offense, that defense 180 00:09:23,200 --> 00:09:26,400 Speaker 1: with Trent McDuffie and Justin Reed in the secondary, because 181 00:09:26,400 --> 00:09:30,160 Speaker 1: it is are you winning your individual battles? Michael Wilson 182 00:09:30,200 --> 00:09:33,600 Speaker 1: talked about that winning your one of eleven meaning do 183 00:09:33,720 --> 00:09:36,320 Speaker 1: what you're supposed to do in that particular play, in 184 00:09:36,360 --> 00:09:40,120 Speaker 1: that particular drive, in that particular quarter, and then you 185 00:09:40,160 --> 00:09:43,600 Speaker 1: come to the sideline. Now, if that means you're going 186 00:09:43,640 --> 00:09:45,600 Speaker 1: out for a pass, that you're going to catch it, 187 00:09:45,800 --> 00:09:48,280 Speaker 1: or you're in there to block or do something else 188 00:09:48,400 --> 00:09:51,400 Speaker 1: or be a decoy, but be one of eleven meaning 189 00:09:51,440 --> 00:09:54,120 Speaker 1: do what you're supposed to do and then hopefully everyone 190 00:09:54,160 --> 00:09:55,439 Speaker 1: else follows. 191 00:09:55,080 --> 00:09:57,360 Speaker 3: And you have that one assignments what he was talking 192 00:09:57,440 --> 00:09:59,360 Speaker 3: about Normally, you're not going to be doing three four 193 00:09:59,480 --> 00:10:01,560 Speaker 3: five things in one play. You have your one assignment, 194 00:10:01,600 --> 00:10:03,719 Speaker 3: whether that is to block, whether that is to come 195 00:10:03,760 --> 00:10:05,480 Speaker 3: down with a tough grab or whatever it is, but 196 00:10:05,600 --> 00:10:07,800 Speaker 3: going out there and doing one hundred percent of that. 197 00:10:08,000 --> 00:10:10,400 Speaker 3: And on the defensive side of it, you got guys 198 00:10:10,400 --> 00:10:11,800 Speaker 3: like Kee Trel Clark who are trying to make a 199 00:10:11,880 --> 00:10:14,160 Speaker 3: name for themselves. But back in college, they had their 200 00:10:14,280 --> 00:10:16,840 Speaker 3: notes all jotted down. He had his notes all jotted 201 00:10:16,840 --> 00:10:19,400 Speaker 3: down about the top two wide receivers against the teams 202 00:10:19,440 --> 00:10:21,960 Speaker 3: he was playing against. He said that the focus is 203 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:24,600 Speaker 3: on training camp in preseason doing the best that he 204 00:10:24,720 --> 00:10:27,559 Speaker 3: can ackle me into the NFL. But he's going to 205 00:10:27,640 --> 00:10:30,400 Speaker 3: see a wide receiver group that he has not seen yet. 206 00:10:30,520 --> 00:10:32,640 Speaker 3: Those are new players that he's going to jot down notes. 207 00:10:32,640 --> 00:10:35,520 Speaker 3: He already said he has a notebook full of Michael Wilson. 208 00:10:35,800 --> 00:10:38,439 Speaker 3: Now he's going to go against another team trotting down 209 00:10:38,480 --> 00:10:41,040 Speaker 3: those notebooks in hopes of becoming one of those fifty three. 210 00:10:41,200 --> 00:10:44,800 Speaker 1: You're trying to get ready for Week one. And remember 211 00:10:44,840 --> 00:10:47,640 Speaker 1: in the preseason uper we did not see James Connor, 212 00:10:47,760 --> 00:10:51,560 Speaker 1: DJ Humphreys, Buddha Baker, Kaiser White. Those players did not 213 00:10:51,679 --> 00:10:54,320 Speaker 1: see any action. They did go through pregame stretch, but 214 00:10:54,400 --> 00:10:56,640 Speaker 1: did not see the field. I'll throw in Hollywood Brown 215 00:10:56,760 --> 00:10:59,520 Speaker 1: as well, although he was not quite as full of 216 00:10:59,559 --> 00:11:03,040 Speaker 1: participate during training camp at the stadium as he was 217 00:11:03,120 --> 00:11:06,280 Speaker 1: as opposed to the others. And I'm curious now, you know, 218 00:11:06,280 --> 00:11:08,959 Speaker 1: I don't think we need to see Connor. I don't 219 00:11:09,000 --> 00:11:10,840 Speaker 1: think we need to see any of those five. And 220 00:11:11,320 --> 00:11:14,640 Speaker 1: I'm not expecting zach Ertz to play on Saturday. He 221 00:11:14,760 --> 00:11:17,559 Speaker 1: was just activated off the physically unable to perform list. 222 00:11:17,600 --> 00:11:20,840 Speaker 1: They're gonna slow play him. And this is really the 223 00:11:20,920 --> 00:11:23,839 Speaker 1: last for a lot of these players. This is the 224 00:11:23,960 --> 00:11:28,400 Speaker 1: last quote unquote game before Week one because next week 225 00:11:28,440 --> 00:11:33,600 Speaker 1: in Minnesota, the joint practices Wednesday and Thursday, those are 226 00:11:33,640 --> 00:11:36,800 Speaker 1: more important to a James Connor, a Buddha Baker than 227 00:11:37,360 --> 00:11:40,600 Speaker 1: the game against the Vikings on that Saturday afternoon, because 228 00:11:40,640 --> 00:11:43,199 Speaker 1: what you see Wednesday and Thursday, there are gonna be 229 00:11:43,200 --> 00:11:46,240 Speaker 1: a lot of players you don't see on Saturday in 230 00:11:46,320 --> 00:11:47,160 Speaker 1: the game exactly. 231 00:11:47,240 --> 00:11:50,840 Speaker 3: And for those joint practices, Yell Deferhold said that there's 232 00:11:50,880 --> 00:11:53,360 Speaker 3: not as many cameras the lights are not as bright. 233 00:11:53,480 --> 00:11:56,600 Speaker 3: It's really all about pride. It's your boys, your guys 234 00:11:56,720 --> 00:11:59,680 Speaker 3: versus their guys. And that's why I think we see 235 00:11:59,679 --> 00:12:02,000 Speaker 3: a lot of shippiness when it comes to these joint 236 00:12:02,040 --> 00:12:05,000 Speaker 3: practices because there's so much pride on the line. A 237 00:12:05,120 --> 00:12:07,000 Speaker 3: top of just trying to defend your brother that you 238 00:12:07,040 --> 00:12:08,880 Speaker 3: have to the right or to the left, to the 239 00:12:08,920 --> 00:12:11,120 Speaker 3: left of you, you're also trying to earn your keeps. 240 00:12:11,120 --> 00:12:13,320 Speaker 3: You're trying to earn your spot on this roster. So 241 00:12:13,360 --> 00:12:15,559 Speaker 3: that's why a lot of stuff Dick goes into place. 242 00:12:15,640 --> 00:12:18,840 Speaker 3: But you mentioned about how DJ and Buddha and James 243 00:12:18,840 --> 00:12:21,440 Speaker 3: Connor and Kaisei're white. They were on the sidelines for 244 00:12:21,600 --> 00:12:24,520 Speaker 3: that first preseason game. It was asked to DJ Humphries, 245 00:12:24,960 --> 00:12:27,719 Speaker 3: do you feel like you need to be playing these 246 00:12:27,720 --> 00:12:30,160 Speaker 3: preseason games, and he said, I think I'm one of 247 00:12:30,160 --> 00:12:33,240 Speaker 3: those guys that doesn't necessarily need it, because I could 248 00:12:33,240 --> 00:12:35,640 Speaker 3: go right into Week one and yeah, I might miss 249 00:12:35,679 --> 00:12:37,440 Speaker 3: trying to punch somebody in the face, as he said 250 00:12:37,440 --> 00:12:40,640 Speaker 3: it during the during his press conference, but he also 251 00:12:40,679 --> 00:12:42,840 Speaker 3: wants to try out some things. And that's the benefit 252 00:12:42,960 --> 00:12:45,760 Speaker 3: of preseason is you get to do things in preseason 253 00:12:45,800 --> 00:12:48,880 Speaker 3: when the games don't count in hopes of trying your 254 00:12:48,920 --> 00:12:52,080 Speaker 3: trick plays new opportunities, you're playing. You're putting players in 255 00:12:52,120 --> 00:12:55,319 Speaker 3: that you otherwise would not play. That's what preseason is 256 00:12:55,360 --> 00:12:57,960 Speaker 3: all about. And for a nine year vet like DJ Humphries, 257 00:12:58,400 --> 00:13:01,000 Speaker 3: he doesn't necessarily think he needs that. Does it help? 258 00:13:01,120 --> 00:13:03,600 Speaker 3: Of course it does. Rept are good for everybody, but 259 00:13:03,720 --> 00:13:05,880 Speaker 3: he knows that it's not necessarily what he needs. 260 00:13:06,120 --> 00:13:08,800 Speaker 1: You knocked the rust off, especially if you haven't done much, 261 00:13:08,880 --> 00:13:11,760 Speaker 1: and Humphreys hasn't done much this offseason because he was 262 00:13:11,800 --> 00:13:14,240 Speaker 1: recovering from a back injury. Yet at the same time, 263 00:13:14,520 --> 00:13:17,839 Speaker 1: I think we all are aware of what Humphreys can 264 00:13:17,880 --> 00:13:20,360 Speaker 1: do for this offensive line. And you brought up, yelled 265 00:13:20,360 --> 00:13:22,200 Speaker 1: to froeh Holt, I know you've got a story. If 266 00:13:22,240 --> 00:13:25,040 Speaker 1: it hasn't already been posted, it will be on the 267 00:13:25,040 --> 00:13:28,480 Speaker 1: Cardinals starting center. And I say starting center because here 268 00:13:28,480 --> 00:13:31,560 Speaker 1: we are going into week two of the preseason and 269 00:13:31,679 --> 00:13:35,800 Speaker 1: I think froh Holt has solidified. I'm not saying he's 270 00:13:35,840 --> 00:13:39,280 Speaker 1: a Week one starter, but in the offseason it was 271 00:13:39,400 --> 00:13:42,840 Speaker 1: more fifty to fifty. I think maybe they'll bring in 272 00:13:42,880 --> 00:13:45,880 Speaker 1: a veteran to compete well we did see a veteran 273 00:13:45,920 --> 00:13:49,200 Speaker 1: brought in during training camp that was pat offline. He 274 00:13:49,320 --> 00:13:52,680 Speaker 1: has not been practicing this week, so I'm not exactly 275 00:13:52,720 --> 00:13:54,760 Speaker 1: sure if we will see number fifty on the field 276 00:13:55,240 --> 00:14:00,280 Speaker 1: on Saturday. But froh Holt has maintained that for first 277 00:14:00,480 --> 00:14:05,400 Speaker 1: team rep at center throughout the entire offseason, throughout training camp, 278 00:14:05,480 --> 00:14:08,880 Speaker 1: so far in the first preseason game, it is his job. 279 00:14:09,000 --> 00:14:12,120 Speaker 1: It's been his job to lose, and I'm not really 280 00:14:12,200 --> 00:14:15,600 Speaker 1: seeing anyone move up, whether that is off line or 281 00:14:15,640 --> 00:14:18,400 Speaker 1: even a John gains to take it from fro Hole. 282 00:14:18,520 --> 00:14:20,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, John Gaines has done a really solid job, but 283 00:14:21,560 --> 00:14:24,560 Speaker 3: he's still a rookie, still is trying to He's only 284 00:14:24,560 --> 00:14:27,040 Speaker 3: played against one team so far, and that's been the 285 00:14:27,080 --> 00:14:30,280 Speaker 3: Denver Broncos. He hasn't seen much competition as opposed to 286 00:14:30,400 --> 00:14:32,520 Speaker 3: Yell Defrohold, who has five years in the league. In 287 00:14:32,800 --> 00:14:34,440 Speaker 3: when he was with the Patriots and when he was 288 00:14:34,480 --> 00:14:37,760 Speaker 3: with the Cleveland Browns, he played some center and he 289 00:14:37,760 --> 00:14:40,200 Speaker 3: also played some right guard. Now coming here to the 290 00:14:40,240 --> 00:14:43,760 Speaker 3: Arizona Cardinals, starting here with the team, he said today 291 00:14:43,800 --> 00:14:46,080 Speaker 3: during the press conference, it's been nice just being able 292 00:14:46,120 --> 00:14:49,040 Speaker 3: to focus on one position. He knows how he's going 293 00:14:49,120 --> 00:14:51,920 Speaker 3: to be able to help guys like Elijah Wilkinson and 294 00:14:51,960 --> 00:14:54,240 Speaker 3: Will Hernandez on the side, onto his right and to 295 00:14:54,320 --> 00:14:57,080 Speaker 3: his left if they get into sticky situations, which they're 296 00:14:57,080 --> 00:15:00,040 Speaker 3: gonna end up doing. It's football, it happens. Having that 297 00:15:00,120 --> 00:15:02,760 Speaker 3: experience as a guard helps him as a center, But 298 00:15:03,080 --> 00:15:05,840 Speaker 3: just being able to focus on his preparation in one 299 00:15:05,880 --> 00:15:08,680 Speaker 3: position not having to do both, is something that's really 300 00:15:08,720 --> 00:15:10,800 Speaker 3: helped him. And I think we could see that throughout 301 00:15:10,800 --> 00:15:14,280 Speaker 3: these training camps, throughout these training camp practices, because as 302 00:15:14,280 --> 00:15:16,359 Speaker 3: you mentioned, he's kind of separated himself. 303 00:15:16,120 --> 00:15:16,640 Speaker 1: From the pack. 304 00:15:17,120 --> 00:15:20,360 Speaker 3: Because now you came in with that question, Mark, who's 305 00:15:20,400 --> 00:15:22,600 Speaker 3: going to be the starting center? That's what we talked about. 306 00:15:22,600 --> 00:15:24,440 Speaker 3: I believe on the first cover two I was on 307 00:15:24,680 --> 00:15:27,160 Speaker 3: is who's going to be that starting center? Three weeks 308 00:15:27,200 --> 00:15:28,960 Speaker 3: later we have our answer pretty much. 309 00:15:29,040 --> 00:15:32,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think it's a question anymore. This close 310 00:15:32,480 --> 00:15:35,800 Speaker 1: to week one and he had two plays go viral 311 00:15:36,080 --> 00:15:39,600 Speaker 1: after the Friday win over the Broncos. One was against 312 00:15:39,680 --> 00:15:42,880 Speaker 1: Zach Allen the pancake and then the other one was 313 00:15:42,960 --> 00:15:45,960 Speaker 1: out in space blowing up a cornerback. And you like 314 00:15:46,080 --> 00:15:48,800 Speaker 1: to see that one, you like to see the athleticism 315 00:15:48,840 --> 00:15:51,680 Speaker 1: of your starting center one being able to out muscle 316 00:15:51,960 --> 00:15:55,200 Speaker 1: a defensive lineman and then get out in space and 317 00:15:55,480 --> 00:15:57,600 Speaker 1: either pull to the left or pull to the ride, 318 00:15:57,880 --> 00:16:00,320 Speaker 1: or be a part of that blocking brigade if you well, 319 00:16:00,600 --> 00:16:02,880 Speaker 1: for a running back or a wide receiver on a 320 00:16:02,920 --> 00:16:06,200 Speaker 1: screen pass. But I've been impressed so far by froh Holt. 321 00:16:06,240 --> 00:16:09,800 Speaker 1: And it's interesting because he said something earlier on Thursday 322 00:16:09,800 --> 00:16:11,960 Speaker 1: that I had not thought about, and then when you 323 00:16:12,080 --> 00:16:15,400 Speaker 1: kind of think about it, you like, he's absolutely correct. 324 00:16:15,560 --> 00:16:18,600 Speaker 1: These five guys on the offensive line right now, left right, 325 00:16:18,800 --> 00:16:23,800 Speaker 1: DJ Humphries, Elijah Wilkinson, yelled to Froeholt, Will Hernandez, and 326 00:16:23,880 --> 00:16:28,760 Speaker 1: Paris Johnson Junior. These five guys, they have not played 327 00:16:29,440 --> 00:16:32,880 Speaker 1: one as a unit before this season, but none of 328 00:16:32,920 --> 00:16:36,040 Speaker 1: them have the experience of playing with the guy next 329 00:16:36,120 --> 00:16:38,760 Speaker 1: to them, whether that's to the left or to the right, 330 00:16:39,320 --> 00:16:41,640 Speaker 1: or in the case of the interior, both your left 331 00:16:41,680 --> 00:16:44,920 Speaker 1: and you're right. And you're like, really, well, okay, Well, 332 00:16:45,000 --> 00:16:48,440 Speaker 1: Humphries is returning, but he plays left tackle. Will Hernandez 333 00:16:48,560 --> 00:16:50,680 Speaker 1: is returning, well, he plays right guards. So they're not 334 00:16:50,760 --> 00:16:54,560 Speaker 1: even on the same side of the ball at this 335 00:16:54,680 --> 00:16:57,080 Speaker 1: point as far as left and right, and then you think, yeah, 336 00:16:57,120 --> 00:16:59,960 Speaker 1: you're throwing in three brand new faces with two returners, 337 00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:03,560 Speaker 1: and there's really nothing that they can go back and 338 00:17:03,680 --> 00:17:05,439 Speaker 1: lean on and say, all right, this is what we 339 00:17:05,560 --> 00:17:09,400 Speaker 1: do best. They've had to come together from day one. 340 00:17:09,760 --> 00:17:13,399 Speaker 1: And remember, Humphreys did not do a lot in the offseason. 341 00:17:13,480 --> 00:17:15,520 Speaker 1: You only participated, i think, in a couple of mini 342 00:17:15,560 --> 00:17:19,359 Speaker 1: camp practices. So it's basically since late July that this 343 00:17:19,480 --> 00:17:22,600 Speaker 1: offensive line has come together as a group. 344 00:17:22,920 --> 00:17:25,000 Speaker 3: And it's funny because we just talked about is DJ 345 00:17:25,080 --> 00:17:27,600 Speaker 3: Humphreys even gonna play? We might not even have that 346 00:17:27,680 --> 00:17:30,880 Speaker 3: answer until the team travels to Washington for that first 347 00:17:30,880 --> 00:17:33,720 Speaker 3: game to see how this first unit really gels together. 348 00:17:33,960 --> 00:17:37,560 Speaker 3: Especially if DJ Humphries does not play in this upcoming 349 00:17:37,600 --> 00:17:40,840 Speaker 3: game against Kansas City, you doubt he's gonna play, if 350 00:17:41,240 --> 00:17:45,239 Speaker 3: at all, against Minnesota the following week. But it's very 351 00:17:45,320 --> 00:17:48,240 Speaker 3: interesting because the communication, especially on that offensive line, the 352 00:17:48,280 --> 00:17:50,439 Speaker 3: battle of the game is one in the trenches, and 353 00:17:50,480 --> 00:17:53,200 Speaker 3: if you don't have that sort of communication and camaraderie, 354 00:17:53,320 --> 00:17:56,720 Speaker 3: you're definitely gonna see some holes in the You're definitely 355 00:17:56,720 --> 00:17:59,240 Speaker 3: gonna see some holes in your offensive line. Despite how 356 00:17:59,280 --> 00:18:02,000 Speaker 3: talented they all my be individually. When you're when you're 357 00:18:02,119 --> 00:18:05,680 Speaker 3: that blocking brigade, When you're that blocking brigade, as you describe, 358 00:18:05,920 --> 00:18:08,080 Speaker 3: you gotta be collective, you gotta be allays one. And 359 00:18:08,960 --> 00:18:11,280 Speaker 3: it hasn't it hasn't been that. We haven't really seen 360 00:18:11,320 --> 00:18:13,800 Speaker 3: that outside a couple of practices. But once you're in 361 00:18:13,800 --> 00:18:18,119 Speaker 3: a game situation, it's very different. I think the first 362 00:18:18,600 --> 00:18:22,000 Speaker 3: real test will be those two joint practices in Minnesota, 363 00:18:22,000 --> 00:18:24,560 Speaker 3: because you're right, if Humphreys does not play this week, 364 00:18:24,920 --> 00:18:28,320 Speaker 3: then you're going into Week one without the offensive line 365 00:18:28,359 --> 00:18:32,600 Speaker 3: playing in a quote unquote game. Because again, as I said, 366 00:18:32,640 --> 00:18:35,480 Speaker 3: those two joint practices are more important than that final 367 00:18:35,520 --> 00:18:39,520 Speaker 3: third preseason game. So Humphreys doesn't play Saturday, he's not 368 00:18:39,560 --> 00:18:43,000 Speaker 3: gonna play against the Vikings in the week later. So 369 00:18:43,040 --> 00:18:46,760 Speaker 3: those two joint practices, those five guys outside going up 370 00:18:46,800 --> 00:18:49,399 Speaker 3: against their own defense, well, that will be their first 371 00:18:49,560 --> 00:18:52,639 Speaker 3: true test before the season begins. It doesn't seem like 372 00:18:52,760 --> 00:18:56,800 Speaker 3: Jonathan Gannon or Drew Petson or is really concerned about that, 373 00:18:56,840 --> 00:18:59,919 Speaker 3: at least not publicly, because they they're perfectly fine with 374 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:02,639 Speaker 3: the veterans. JG has said that it's gonna be a 375 00:19:02,680 --> 00:19:06,440 Speaker 3: case by case, individualized basis as to how much people 376 00:19:06,480 --> 00:19:09,120 Speaker 3: play during the preseason, So it doesn't seem like they're 377 00:19:09,119 --> 00:19:11,719 Speaker 3: really concerned about getting them integrated into the line. Obviously, 378 00:19:11,760 --> 00:19:15,080 Speaker 3: you want to have years of experience on that offensive 379 00:19:15,080 --> 00:19:18,680 Speaker 3: line together as one unit, but this group doesn't have 380 00:19:18,760 --> 00:19:21,440 Speaker 3: that right now. And maybe it's just me. I'm kind 381 00:19:21,440 --> 00:19:24,239 Speaker 3: of surprised that we haven't seen as much of it. 382 00:19:24,600 --> 00:19:26,760 Speaker 3: I get it, you want to keep your veterans healthy. 383 00:19:26,840 --> 00:19:29,720 Speaker 3: You don't think that those preseason games matters as much. 384 00:19:29,960 --> 00:19:32,200 Speaker 3: But if JAG's as convinced as he is about every 385 00:19:32,200 --> 00:19:34,400 Speaker 3: single time you step between those white lines you're going 386 00:19:34,400 --> 00:19:36,199 Speaker 3: to win a football game, You're going to also want 387 00:19:36,200 --> 00:19:38,320 Speaker 3: to put your best players in for those best reps 388 00:19:38,359 --> 00:19:41,200 Speaker 3: as possible with that first unit. So I mean, it's 389 00:19:41,240 --> 00:19:43,680 Speaker 3: going to be very interesting to see who jots out 390 00:19:43,680 --> 00:19:45,720 Speaker 3: onto the field on Saturday against the Chiefs. 391 00:19:45,760 --> 00:19:49,080 Speaker 1: They are working together in the classroom, studying film. It 392 00:19:49,240 --> 00:19:52,560 Speaker 1: just hasn't materialize on the field as far as again 393 00:19:52,840 --> 00:19:57,040 Speaker 1: in a preseason game, especially if Humphreys doesn't play on Saturday. 394 00:19:57,280 --> 00:20:00,520 Speaker 1: But I'll say this, individually, you don't have to be 395 00:20:00,560 --> 00:20:04,240 Speaker 1: the best at your respective position on the offensive line, 396 00:20:04,600 --> 00:20:07,840 Speaker 1: but collectively, how do you guys gel together and that 397 00:20:07,920 --> 00:20:11,399 Speaker 1: chemistry on field, well, it starts off the field, getting 398 00:20:11,440 --> 00:20:14,320 Speaker 1: to know the guy as a person and then being 399 00:20:14,359 --> 00:20:17,800 Speaker 1: able to communicate and feel comfortable with whoever is lining 400 00:20:17,880 --> 00:20:19,480 Speaker 1: up next to you, to your left or your right, 401 00:20:19,880 --> 00:20:22,560 Speaker 1: because as I say, you know it is when you 402 00:20:22,600 --> 00:20:24,720 Speaker 1: go to battle, who do you want in the foxhole 403 00:20:24,800 --> 00:20:27,280 Speaker 1: with you? And if you're yelled to Frold, well, you've 404 00:20:27,320 --> 00:20:31,480 Speaker 1: got Elijah Wilkinson and Will Hernandez on either side of you. 405 00:20:31,520 --> 00:20:33,880 Speaker 1: And he says, that's a lot of room or as 406 00:20:33,880 --> 00:20:37,120 Speaker 1: far as he called it, a lot of presence in there, 407 00:20:37,160 --> 00:20:39,359 Speaker 1: as far as those three guys on the interior of 408 00:20:39,400 --> 00:20:43,520 Speaker 1: the offensive line. So yeah, the chemistry is there, we 409 00:20:43,680 --> 00:20:46,080 Speaker 1: just haven't seen it on the football field. But even 410 00:20:46,119 --> 00:20:48,879 Speaker 1: with the Kelvin Beacham at left tackle, I thought the 411 00:20:48,880 --> 00:20:52,240 Speaker 1: offensive line held up real well against the Broncos defense. 412 00:20:52,320 --> 00:20:53,040 Speaker 1: I definitely agree. 413 00:20:53,080 --> 00:20:54,920 Speaker 3: And one of the things that yelled defro Hot talked 414 00:20:54,960 --> 00:20:58,199 Speaker 3: about was how the team in order to gain that 415 00:20:58,320 --> 00:21:00,960 Speaker 3: chemistry off the field, they've been doing some dinners together. 416 00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:03,920 Speaker 3: Although it hasn't been many, they've had some and DJ 417 00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:07,360 Speaker 3: Humphrey said specifically about Yell defro hol. He said that 418 00:21:07,359 --> 00:21:09,640 Speaker 3: that guy came into the room. They had no sort 419 00:21:09,680 --> 00:21:12,120 Speaker 3: of connection to one another ahead of time, and once 420 00:21:12,160 --> 00:21:13,720 Speaker 3: he came into the room, it wasn't like there was 421 00:21:13,760 --> 00:21:16,919 Speaker 3: any weird outlier. Once that happened. When you have so 422 00:21:17,040 --> 00:21:20,280 Speaker 3: many new faces, you kind of expect for that to happen. 423 00:21:20,320 --> 00:21:23,040 Speaker 3: But off the field, they seemed to be doing really well, 424 00:21:23,040 --> 00:21:26,000 Speaker 3: and to go to the game on Friday against the 425 00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:29,320 Speaker 3: Denver Broncos, the offensive line did hold up pretty well. 426 00:21:29,359 --> 00:21:32,360 Speaker 3: I thought the quarterbacks stayed upright majority of the game. 427 00:21:32,400 --> 00:21:35,440 Speaker 3: There really was not many hits taken on him, especially 428 00:21:35,440 --> 00:21:38,400 Speaker 3: not many sacks throughout the game. So the offensive line 429 00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:40,359 Speaker 3: did a good job until you started getting towards the 430 00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:42,960 Speaker 3: latter half of the game. Then it started to open 431 00:21:43,040 --> 00:21:45,240 Speaker 3: up a little bit and some weaknesses were starting to 432 00:21:45,240 --> 00:21:47,840 Speaker 3: show a little bit. But I thought overall, the offensive 433 00:21:47,840 --> 00:21:49,240 Speaker 3: line did great. And when you have a guy like 434 00:21:49,320 --> 00:21:53,160 Speaker 3: Kelvin Beacham who played a ton last year, he's coming 435 00:21:53,200 --> 00:21:55,680 Speaker 3: in with that experience and he's not one of those 436 00:21:55,720 --> 00:21:58,200 Speaker 3: guys you have a circle around saying Kenny hold up. 437 00:21:58,240 --> 00:21:59,239 Speaker 3: You know he's going to hold up. 438 00:21:59,359 --> 00:22:02,800 Speaker 1: Preseason game number two, Saturday night, Kansas City Chiefs in 439 00:22:02,880 --> 00:22:05,359 Speaker 1: town again. Five pm is the kickoff. One thirty of 440 00:22:05,359 --> 00:22:09,040 Speaker 1: the pregame coverage begins. I mentioned that how Pat Elfline 441 00:22:09,359 --> 00:22:11,560 Speaker 1: has not been practicing or at least has not been 442 00:22:11,600 --> 00:22:14,280 Speaker 1: spotted during the open portion of practice this week. Neither 443 00:22:14,359 --> 00:22:17,919 Speaker 1: has Cameron Thomas or Jeff Driscoll. Thomas has basically been 444 00:22:17,960 --> 00:22:21,359 Speaker 1: a spectator watching his fellow edge rushers practice, so would 445 00:22:21,359 --> 00:22:24,159 Speaker 1: not expect to see either of those three on the 446 00:22:24,200 --> 00:22:27,040 Speaker 1: field this week. What I do hope to see on 447 00:22:27,119 --> 00:22:30,000 Speaker 1: the field is guys that we did not see play 448 00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:34,639 Speaker 1: against the Broncos, specifically Trey McBride, Keyanta Ingram, and my 449 00:22:34,800 --> 00:22:38,920 Speaker 1: Jay Sanders. Those three, especially McBride as your number two 450 00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:42,240 Speaker 1: tied end. Ingram, can he be that number two running back? 451 00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:44,840 Speaker 1: And then my j Sanders? Can he do what he 452 00:22:44,920 --> 00:22:48,360 Speaker 1: did in limited reps a year ago, take that year 453 00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:51,879 Speaker 1: one to year two leap and be an outside linebacker, 454 00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:55,159 Speaker 1: be a dominant edge presence, rush the passer, set the 455 00:22:55,320 --> 00:22:58,520 Speaker 1: edge on the running plays. Those three I want to 456 00:22:58,560 --> 00:23:02,560 Speaker 1: see hopefully on Saturday. Don't know if we will, but 457 00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:06,280 Speaker 1: I think those three players, and maybe more so Ingram 458 00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:09,359 Speaker 1: than anyone else, because Bride's going to be on this team. 459 00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:11,520 Speaker 1: Sanders is going to be on this team. But those 460 00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:15,679 Speaker 1: three need reps in order to convince the coaches that 461 00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:18,520 Speaker 1: they are ready to go week one. It's one thing 462 00:23:18,560 --> 00:23:21,520 Speaker 1: to do the work on the side in the classroom, 463 00:23:21,720 --> 00:23:23,800 Speaker 1: in the film room, but I think they need to 464 00:23:23,800 --> 00:23:27,199 Speaker 1: see some reps specifically those three players. I definitely agree. 465 00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:30,840 Speaker 3: And when it comes to Keyanta Ingram, you definitely want 466 00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:34,880 Speaker 3: to see that battle between Corey Klement and Keyante. Now 467 00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:38,399 Speaker 3: we saw Corey walk off the field with an undisclosed injury. 468 00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:41,280 Speaker 3: He was back in practice the following days, so there 469 00:23:41,320 --> 00:23:44,400 Speaker 3: was no necessarily concerns about that, but you do lose 470 00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:47,240 Speaker 3: a back in that situation for a game time situation, 471 00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:50,440 Speaker 3: game time scenario. When it comes to my j Sanders, 472 00:23:50,960 --> 00:23:53,760 Speaker 3: you know, you definitely want to see what he's able 473 00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:56,960 Speaker 3: to do. He gave spurts last year and how that 474 00:23:57,160 --> 00:24:00,600 Speaker 3: was where his interests were like on that on that line, 475 00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:03,000 Speaker 3: how he was able to get to the quarterback. Started 476 00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:05,040 Speaker 3: off slow and then right away you start to see 477 00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:08,160 Speaker 3: spurts of him and Cam Thomas together all at one 478 00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:11,120 Speaker 3: and with Trey McBride. With the activation of zach Ertz, 479 00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:13,639 Speaker 3: you want to see that tight end two, especially in 480 00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:16,480 Speaker 3: an offense where the tight ends are very heavily used. 481 00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:18,280 Speaker 3: You want to see what he's able to do, what 482 00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:20,480 Speaker 3: he's able to bring to the field. Throughout training camp, 483 00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:22,440 Speaker 3: we didn't see much of him. He was off to 484 00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:25,520 Speaker 3: the side doing individual workouts for the most part, especially 485 00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:27,720 Speaker 3: when they got to seven on seven and eleven on eleven. 486 00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:29,879 Speaker 3: We didn't see him until the last two days of 487 00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:32,880 Speaker 3: training camp. I believe it was on the field. So 488 00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:35,040 Speaker 3: to see if he's able to come in, how he 489 00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:38,600 Speaker 3: gels with Colt McCoy, who's expected and will be the 490 00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:42,000 Speaker 3: starting quarterback against the Kansas City Chiefs, will definitely be 491 00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:46,680 Speaker 3: pretty unique. My Jay had that hand wrapped in training camp. 492 00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:50,679 Speaker 3: He missed almost ten practices. I believe the final count 493 00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:54,399 Speaker 3: was eights, and then McBride has been limited, didn't really 494 00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:58,200 Speaker 3: go through a full practice until late in cards camp 495 00:24:58,359 --> 00:25:02,000 Speaker 3: at State Farms Stadium with an undisclosed injury. And you 496 00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:04,520 Speaker 3: look at that tight end position because if you want 497 00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:08,119 Speaker 3: to play two three tight ends, zach Ertz coming off 498 00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:11,159 Speaker 3: an ACL injury, McBride dealing with whatever he. 499 00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:13,720 Speaker 1: Is dealing with. Noah Tangi I who missed a couple 500 00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:17,879 Speaker 1: of days of practice has returned those your top three perhaps, 501 00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:21,359 Speaker 1: and then Jeff Swain, there's four. And the only one 502 00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:25,359 Speaker 1: that really has been on the field consistently outside of 503 00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:29,120 Speaker 1: the last couple of practices at State Farm Stadium was TOGII, 504 00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:31,720 Speaker 1: and he certainly flashed a lot, but he did not 505 00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:35,520 Speaker 1: play against the Broncos either. So throw him as another 506 00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:38,760 Speaker 1: name to want to see get some game reps against 507 00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:40,720 Speaker 1: the Kansas City Chiefs, because I do think that tight 508 00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:43,600 Speaker 1: end room is going to be so important to what 509 00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:45,719 Speaker 1: this offense Andrew Petsy wants to do. 510 00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:49,200 Speaker 3: When it comes to Noah TAGII, he was Colt McCoy 511 00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:52,400 Speaker 3: one of his top targets during the open practices at 512 00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:54,359 Speaker 3: State Farm Stadium when we were able to see it. 513 00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:57,920 Speaker 3: He made a lot of spectacular catches and we randomly 514 00:25:57,960 --> 00:25:59,320 Speaker 3: just did not see him on the field. We weren't 515 00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:01,639 Speaker 3: told of any We just saw him on the sidelines, 516 00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:04,120 Speaker 3: and then he does not play against the Denver Broncos. 517 00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:05,480 Speaker 3: It was good to see him in the helmet and 518 00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:08,840 Speaker 3: pads at the previous practices here at the Dignity Hell 519 00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:11,639 Speaker 3: Training Center because he is a big part of that 520 00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:15,080 Speaker 3: offense and he's somebody that Colt McCoy heavily was relying 521 00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:18,080 Speaker 3: on during the first couple weeks of training camp, and 522 00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:20,840 Speaker 3: somebody that has been on the field. Two players in 523 00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:24,320 Speaker 3: the tight end room Bernard Tsaichowitz and Blake white Hart. 524 00:26:24,359 --> 00:26:27,360 Speaker 3: Both of them are drenched in sweat, similar to Jonathan 525 00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:29,800 Speaker 3: led Better in the beginning, because they are just non 526 00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:33,159 Speaker 3: stop on the field, especially with how the tight end 527 00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:35,760 Speaker 3: room has taken a hit with some of the injuries 528 00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:37,520 Speaker 3: over the first couple weeks of training camp. 529 00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:39,399 Speaker 1: So those are some of the names that we hope 530 00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:42,800 Speaker 1: to see this weekend. Then you look at preseason game 531 00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:44,960 Speaker 1: number two and is how well things went in the 532 00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:47,880 Speaker 1: opener as far as the operations, and then the players 533 00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:50,359 Speaker 1: that we did see, especially some of the younger players, 534 00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:54,200 Speaker 1: ie quarterback Clayton Tune and then just a different look 535 00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:57,920 Speaker 1: for Zevi and Collins as an edge rusher, Isaiah Simmons 536 00:26:58,040 --> 00:27:01,320 Speaker 1: playing deep safety. All right, so you did things well 537 00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:04,199 Speaker 1: in week one, Now you got to stack that and 538 00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:06,520 Speaker 1: do it again in week two. It's not so much 539 00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:10,200 Speaker 1: about the end results against the Chiefs, but can Clayton 540 00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:12,800 Speaker 1: Tune maybe be a little bit quicker out of the gates, 541 00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:16,360 Speaker 1: not look so much like a rookie his first couple 542 00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:18,760 Speaker 1: of series, and then closed it out very well against 543 00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:21,360 Speaker 1: the Broncos. And then do we see more of Xavi 544 00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:23,560 Speaker 1: and Collins outside of the handful of STAPs that he 545 00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:26,600 Speaker 1: did get. Is there someone else in that edge rusher 546 00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:29,520 Speaker 1: room that can make a play or stand out on 547 00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:32,000 Speaker 1: film to where all of a sudden, now all right, 548 00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:35,160 Speaker 1: you're on the radar. Do it again against the Vikings 549 00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:37,840 Speaker 1: in those joint practices, and then push for a roster 550 00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:39,040 Speaker 1: spot at the end of the month. 551 00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:41,880 Speaker 3: One hundred percent with Clayton Tune thirteen for twenty three 552 00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:44,159 Speaker 3: for one hundred and thirty five yards a touchdown an 553 00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:47,560 Speaker 3: interception to Rondel Moore who slipped is not a bad 554 00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:50,280 Speaker 3: stat line, but it's the fact that some of those 555 00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:54,760 Speaker 3: incompletions were the rookie mistakes. Overthrowing Greg Dortch. I believe 556 00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:56,920 Speaker 3: it was three times in the game on the same 557 00:27:57,000 --> 00:27:59,879 Speaker 3: flat route that he had him open on through throughout 558 00:27:59,880 --> 00:28:02,440 Speaker 3: the game against the Broncos, and he said, obviously, any 559 00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:04,880 Speaker 3: rookie quarterback is gonna want some throws back, but those 560 00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:07,520 Speaker 3: are the footwork was a little bit off in some 561 00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:11,000 Speaker 3: of those moments and that's what separates the rookie quarterback 562 00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:12,879 Speaker 3: from the quarterback that's been in the league for a 563 00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:15,520 Speaker 3: handful of years. And you're gonna have a pretty darn 564 00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:17,480 Speaker 3: good quarterback on the other side of the field when 565 00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:20,760 Speaker 3: it comes to Patrick Mahomes. So I mean, it's not 566 00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:22,640 Speaker 3: like it's not like Russell Wilson was a bad quarterback 567 00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:25,359 Speaker 3: either to be going against him. Clayton Tune took the 568 00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:28,199 Speaker 3: same amount of reps on the field as Russell Wilson did. 569 00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:29,800 Speaker 3: They were both on the field at the same time 570 00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:32,879 Speaker 3: when those offenses were switching over. And with Zavin Collins, 571 00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:36,240 Speaker 3: it's like an it's like an outside linebacker by committee 572 00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:40,000 Speaker 3: essentially because of how many pass rushers that they do have. 573 00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:43,680 Speaker 3: Dennis Gardix, Zavion Collins, we talked about Cam Thomas, my 574 00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:47,560 Speaker 3: j Standers, you got bj Ojalari, Victor d mcagee, Jesse Luketta. 575 00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:50,520 Speaker 3: That is a linebacker room where you wonder, how are 576 00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:52,160 Speaker 3: all these guys gonna make the roster? 577 00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:53,280 Speaker 1: Will all of them? 578 00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:55,800 Speaker 3: And it's been asked to Jag and to Nick Rolis, 579 00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:58,280 Speaker 3: how they like that, And obviously they're gonna say that 580 00:28:58,320 --> 00:29:01,280 Speaker 3: they like it. Do they want somebody emerged a one competition. 581 00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:04,360 Speaker 3: That's the overall theme that we're getting from this. But 582 00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:08,320 Speaker 3: Xavi and Collins they describe as a violent man, a 583 00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:12,400 Speaker 3: dominant man, and we saw some pass rushing in the 584 00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:15,080 Speaker 3: previous game against the Broncos. Now you're going against the 585 00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:17,560 Speaker 3: reigning champs on their offensive line. They did not take 586 00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:21,080 Speaker 3: many hits in terms of losing players, So he's gonna 587 00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:22,080 Speaker 3: be going against some of the best. 588 00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:26,360 Speaker 1: How many of those eight outside linebackers make the team? 589 00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:29,080 Speaker 1: How many of those if you're not part of that 590 00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:32,720 Speaker 1: initial rotation as far as defensive snaps, how many of 591 00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:35,680 Speaker 1: those are involved on special teams in order to be 592 00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:38,840 Speaker 1: one of those forty eight players that are active on 593 00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:42,680 Speaker 1: game day at something I think will be determined. But 594 00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:46,200 Speaker 1: can you flash now here against the Kansas City Chiefs? 595 00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:48,640 Speaker 1: There's some other players. Can a key Trell Clark do 596 00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:52,920 Speaker 1: what he did again, but against maybe better competition, whether 597 00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:56,520 Speaker 1: that is seen being opposite a Sky Moore and facing 598 00:29:56,520 --> 00:29:59,600 Speaker 1: a quarterback and Patrick Mahomes, what about Christian Matthew Tho 599 00:29:59,840 --> 00:30:05,400 Speaker 1: your top two cornerbacks opposite Marco Wilson that you know 600 00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:08,760 Speaker 1: again you flashed once? Can you do it again to 601 00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:10,680 Speaker 1: where you don't get lost and all of a sudden 602 00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:13,520 Speaker 1: you become a one hit wonder. Can these rookies, these 603 00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:18,400 Speaker 1: second third year players that are still young fighting for 604 00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:22,640 Speaker 1: a roster spot, continue to progress and throw that upward 605 00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:25,320 Speaker 1: climb to where, all right, they can be counted on 606 00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:26,400 Speaker 1: once the season begins. 607 00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:28,720 Speaker 3: We know what we're gonna get from veterans that have 608 00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:30,840 Speaker 3: been in the league for a handful of years. For 609 00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:33,280 Speaker 3: those guys, as you mentioned, the second year, the third 610 00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:36,240 Speaker 3: year and the rookie, I saw something that was interesting 611 00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:39,160 Speaker 3: during the open port doing the open portion of practice, 612 00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:42,320 Speaker 3: the defensive line and the outside linebackers were kind of 613 00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:45,240 Speaker 3: stationed right in front of us, and cam Thomas was 614 00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:49,440 Speaker 3: working a lot with Bjojalari, going over his reps on 615 00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:51,800 Speaker 3: the dummy back that they were going against when Coach 616 00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:55,120 Speaker 3: Rodriguez was giving them the tricks that they needed to do. 617 00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:57,920 Speaker 3: After each time cam Thomas would go and they would 618 00:30:58,080 --> 00:31:00,800 Speaker 3: he would go talk to b j Ojulari, and it's 619 00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:03,160 Speaker 3: kind of like that they know that they're in this together, 620 00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:06,200 Speaker 3: being the younger guys, cam Thomas having just experience what 621 00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:09,040 Speaker 3: Bja is about to experience. So you see that from 622 00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:09,520 Speaker 3: one another. 623 00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:10,479 Speaker 1: But the NFL. 624 00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:12,440 Speaker 3: It's a ruthless business and you got to come in 625 00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:15,640 Speaker 3: and you got to perform, Especially like Buddha Baker when 626 00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:17,920 Speaker 3: he spoke to us in the beginning portion of camp, 627 00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:19,840 Speaker 3: he said, when it was when we were talking about 628 00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:22,720 Speaker 3: his contract, But if I don't perform, no one's bringing 629 00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:25,800 Speaker 3: me back anyway. And that's the standard. That's the mindset 630 00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:28,160 Speaker 3: for all these guys, from the vets all the way 631 00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:30,240 Speaker 3: down to the rookies. You can't be that one hit 632 00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:32,720 Speaker 3: wonder and say, wow, I remember when they had a 633 00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:34,680 Speaker 3: good game. You got to have good games. 634 00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:37,000 Speaker 1: You can't have a bad day. Or if you do 635 00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:38,840 Speaker 1: have a bad day, it better be followed up by 636 00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:41,560 Speaker 1: an outstanding day to where it's like, Okay, that's just 637 00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:44,959 Speaker 1: gonna happen during the course of a long off season 638 00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:48,040 Speaker 1: training camp. But make sure that it's a one off 639 00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:52,280 Speaker 1: and that something that becomes consistent or a habit. Anyone 640 00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:55,760 Speaker 1: else on Saturday that you want to see either for 641 00:31:55,800 --> 00:32:00,960 Speaker 1: the first time or just again against a again better 642 00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:05,240 Speaker 1: quality opponents than what the Cardinals faced in the opener 643 00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:08,440 Speaker 1: against the Denver Broncos. Although say this offensively, that first 644 00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:11,560 Speaker 1: team offense with Russell Wilson was on the field for 645 00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:14,800 Speaker 1: the majority of the first half. Again the expectation. Head 646 00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:18,040 Speaker 1: coach Andy Reid says he plans to play his daughters 647 00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:22,160 Speaker 1: the entire first half. We'll see if that changes depending 648 00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:24,680 Speaker 1: on what happens during the course of the game, but 649 00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:27,920 Speaker 1: you're going to see the Super Bowl champs that first 650 00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:29,800 Speaker 1: half on Saturday night. 651 00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:32,160 Speaker 3: The person I want to see take the field one 652 00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:34,880 Speaker 3: hundred percent is Kaisier White, especially if he's going to 653 00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:37,040 Speaker 3: be wearing that green dot and he's going to be 654 00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:40,480 Speaker 3: controlling the defense. We saw that Josh Woods did a 655 00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:43,280 Speaker 3: pretty solid job with that first unit on the defense. 656 00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:46,360 Speaker 3: Then owen Papo Nick Rolis at today, they gave him. 657 00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:48,960 Speaker 3: They gave the rookie the green dot, and to see 658 00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:52,360 Speaker 3: a rookie manage that position, it's pretty impressive in and 659 00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:55,320 Speaker 3: of itself, especially in his first game. But Kaisier White, 660 00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:57,720 Speaker 3: we know the expectations that he has coming into the 661 00:32:57,760 --> 00:33:01,000 Speaker 3: Cardinals program from his previous time in Filmladelphia with JG 662 00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:03,920 Speaker 3: with Nick Rolis. The coaching staff knows what they're going 663 00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:06,360 Speaker 3: to get out of him. To see Kaysier White on 664 00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:09,240 Speaker 3: the field donning that number seven red jersey, you want 665 00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:11,440 Speaker 3: to see how he's going to perform, how his communication 666 00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:15,240 Speaker 3: is with his fellow defenders, because as I mentioned, Josh 667 00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:17,719 Speaker 3: Woods did a pretty solid job and so did Owen Papo. 668 00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:19,880 Speaker 3: But you want to see the guys that are definitely 669 00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:22,479 Speaker 3: gonna be making the plays on the field, and Kayier 670 00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:24,160 Speaker 3: White's going to be the one call in the plays 671 00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:26,160 Speaker 3: on the field for that defense. So would love to 672 00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:28,320 Speaker 3: see how he gets out there and the communication he 673 00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:29,080 Speaker 3: has with his guys. 674 00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:31,840 Speaker 1: That last part, the communication, I think maybe more so 675 00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:35,320 Speaker 1: than what he does as far as tackles are making plays, 676 00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:39,120 Speaker 1: but gaining the signal, getting the play call from the sideline, 677 00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:42,000 Speaker 1: and then being able to relay it to his teammates. Yeah, 678 00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:44,720 Speaker 1: you can do it out here on the field in practice, 679 00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:48,640 Speaker 1: but now in a stadium full of people game setting, 680 00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:52,560 Speaker 1: the acoustics are different. It is much louder and in 681 00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:55,760 Speaker 1: in a game setting, regardless of its preseason. As DJ 682 00:33:55,840 --> 00:33:59,280 Speaker 1: Humphreys talked about earlier in the week, your juices start flowing, 683 00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:01,360 Speaker 1: you step between the white lines, and all of a 684 00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:04,040 Speaker 1: sudden it doesn't matter to you or you don't start 685 00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:06,800 Speaker 1: thinking about, oh it's a preseason versus a regular season game, 686 00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:10,560 Speaker 1: but just the operations going back to that term from 687 00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:14,280 Speaker 1: Nick Rawlis to Kaiser White, to the ten other players 688 00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:17,600 Speaker 1: on the field, how does that look as opposed to 689 00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:20,960 Speaker 1: someone else. So, even though Kaiser did not play in 690 00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:23,960 Speaker 1: that first game, yeah, maybe a series or two, especially 691 00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:27,560 Speaker 1: against the Chiefs, would bode well for the entire operation 692 00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:28,320 Speaker 1: of the defense. 693 00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:31,120 Speaker 3: And I would say Nick Rolis spoke today about how 694 00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:32,920 Speaker 3: whether he was going to be up in the coaches 695 00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:34,440 Speaker 3: booth or if he was going to be on the sidelines. 696 00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:36,000 Speaker 3: When he was in Philly, he was in the coaching 697 00:34:36,160 --> 00:34:37,680 Speaker 3: he was in the coaches booth, and he worked with 698 00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:41,000 Speaker 3: the linebackers like Kaizer White. He said he liked it 699 00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:43,440 Speaker 3: being on the sidelines against the Denver Broncos. He will 700 00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:46,080 Speaker 3: be back on the sidelines for Saturday's game against the 701 00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:50,160 Speaker 3: Kansas City Chiefs. That communication relaying the plays in from 702 00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:53,040 Speaker 3: your coaching staff to the players to ultimately put the 703 00:34:53,040 --> 00:34:56,839 Speaker 3: play onto the field, that is incredibly important. And with 704 00:34:57,000 --> 00:35:00,080 Speaker 3: that new coaching staff, with now Kaizer White has to 705 00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:02,239 Speaker 3: to get used to Nick Rowlis calling it from the sidelines. 706 00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:05,120 Speaker 3: Nick does not have the bird's eye view anymore. He's 707 00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:07,400 Speaker 3: down on the field, he's raining the trenches. And he 708 00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:09,920 Speaker 3: said when he was in that linebackers spot. When he 709 00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:13,080 Speaker 3: was coaching the linebackers in Philly, he couldn't detect runs 710 00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:16,200 Speaker 3: as easily. Now he's seeing the whole operation and calling 711 00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:17,960 Speaker 3: that play in and making sure you get the right 712 00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:21,280 Speaker 3: play is important. So I think that the communication between 713 00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:24,000 Speaker 3: Nick Rolis and Kaiser White that's one in one A 714 00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:26,560 Speaker 3: and then one A in one C is going to 715 00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:29,480 Speaker 3: be Kaiser White talking to the defense. 716 00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:33,359 Speaker 1: The face to face conversation versus over the phone. I 717 00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:36,680 Speaker 1: mean that's something that sometimes where you are on that 718 00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:40,200 Speaker 1: coach's pecking order, Yeah, it's better to be on the sideline. 719 00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:42,520 Speaker 1: Sometimes it's better to be in the booth. Nick Rolis, 720 00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:46,640 Speaker 1: right now, given his position as defensive coordinator, prefers being 721 00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:49,839 Speaker 1: on the sideline for that face to face conversation with 722 00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:54,040 Speaker 1: the with his defensive teammates or defensive team. So that's 723 00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:59,040 Speaker 1: just it's again part of this learning curve for everyone 724 00:35:59,120 --> 00:36:01,279 Speaker 1: right here and with the pre season is all about. 725 00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:03,759 Speaker 1: By the way, speaking of face to face conversation, has 726 00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:07,120 Speaker 1: anyone told you that you're a part of Saturday's pregame 727 00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:11,000 Speaker 1: coverage that begins at one thirty. You told me, Okay, 728 00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:13,440 Speaker 1: I just want to make sure you're paying attention to change. No, 729 00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:16,360 Speaker 1: just make sure you're there at one thirty, maybe. 730 00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:17,880 Speaker 2: Before the earlier. 731 00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:20,680 Speaker 3: Just because the shot clocks going down doesn't mean I 732 00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:21,879 Speaker 3: want to shoot it right at one. 733 00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:26,360 Speaker 1: By the way, we'll let you go change, uh, dry 734 00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:29,080 Speaker 1: off a little bit or if you want to. I 735 00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:31,480 Speaker 1: don't know. I put the shorts on eBay and say 736 00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:36,120 Speaker 1: Jonathan Ledbetter's sweatstain. What should the starting bid be? Oh? Yeah, 737 00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:38,399 Speaker 1: you might have to pay your own money to get 738 00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:39,840 Speaker 1: someone to take that off your hands. 739 00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:42,080 Speaker 3: I mean, I wouldn't blame them. 740 00:36:42,080 --> 00:36:42,840 Speaker 2: I would have did. 741 00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:48,840 Speaker 1: More from young Zach Gershman. Coming up on Saturday again, 742 00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:52,319 Speaker 1: preseason game number two, the defending Super Bowl champions In 743 00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:56,120 Speaker 1: Town Cardinals and Kansas City Chiefs. The last time Bird 744 00:36:56,160 --> 00:36:59,000 Speaker 1: Gang that you can see the Cardinals in that building 745 00:36:59,120 --> 00:37:03,000 Speaker 1: before the season begins. And week two when the Cardinals 746 00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:06,959 Speaker 1: host the New York Giants, but that's for another day again, 747 00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:10,160 Speaker 1: Cardinals and Chiefs coming up at five o'clock one point thirty. 748 00:37:10,360 --> 00:37:14,279 Speaker 1: Pregame coverage begins on the Arizona Cardinals Radio Network. And 749 00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:16,160 Speaker 1: on that note, we will put a lid on this 750 00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:19,520 Speaker 1: edition of Cardinals Cover two presented by Hyundai, proud partner 751 00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:22,560 Speaker 1: of the Arizona Cardinals. As always, special thanks to our 752 00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:26,640 Speaker 1: executive producer jem Mamahudra, our associate producer Cody Fincher for 753 00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:29,160 Speaker 1: Zach Gershman, I'm Craig Riolu. We'll talk to you next 754 00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:31,040 Speaker 1: time here on Cardinals Cover two.