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Speaker 1: Rob Phillips, and Kyle Yeoman's It is another edition of

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Speaker 1: Talking Cowboys. Here from the SWBC studios at the Star

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Speaker 1: in Frisco. Today is June seventh, Another Tuesday, Talking Cowboys

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Speaker 1: Tuesday tct CT Baby. As we break it down for you,

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Speaker 1: the Cowboys offseason continues to roll along, and as the

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Speaker 1: Big Voice man said, heck Ma Harrison, Isaiah Stanback, Rob,

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Speaker 1: We've got Chris Beam in the back of Kyle Yeoman's glad.

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Speaker 1: You're whipped us gentlemen, how are we doing? I'm swell man.

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Speaker 1: How are you? And you're wearing well or swoll Yes,

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Speaker 1: you're wearing the shot? What it is? Both? I wear

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Speaker 1: Let's go. It's an exel oh man medium, it's a

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Speaker 1: women's came all the way down man. Yeah, well, good glad.

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Speaker 1: Everybody's doing well. We've got some news and notes to hit.

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Speaker 1: We have a special guest coming up in our second segment,

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Speaker 1: one of which that has a gold jacket, but not

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Speaker 1: only a gold jacket, but one of the best careers

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Speaker 1: in the history of the National Football League. Mean, Joe

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Speaker 1: Green is going to join us on the phone coming

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Speaker 1: up in the second segment, Uncle Joe to heck mum,

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Speaker 1: But we're gonna talk some football. We're gonna get his

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Speaker 1: thought process about this Cowboys team and then also a

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Speaker 1: great foundation in which you guys can can help out

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Speaker 1: that coming up here in about twenty twenty five minutes

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Speaker 1: or so, we'll have me and Joe Green. But Rob,

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Speaker 1: as always, let's start things off with some news and notes.

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Speaker 1: What's going around Cowboy Nation. Well, the last week of

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Speaker 1: OTA's are here, followed by voluntary otia's volunt followed by

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Speaker 1: So something get something gives with it. No, I'm just

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Speaker 1: I'm just restating that. I think this gets more interesting

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Speaker 1: next week if it's mandatory and he's not here. But

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Speaker 1: as we all know he you know, he would like

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Speaker 1: a long term deal and and he doesn't have one.

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Speaker 1: He's on the franchise tag, which he signed back in March.

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Speaker 1: Soon after he got the tag. I think it's worth

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Speaker 1: almost eleven million bucks for tight Ends this year. He's

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Speaker 1: one of three tight ends to get a tag. One.

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Speaker 1: David and Joku has gotten a long term deal from Cleveland.

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Speaker 1: Dalton Schultz is not, and it doesn't sound like there's

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Speaker 1: been much movement on that front at all to this point,

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Speaker 1: so it's not worthy. I don't know if it's big news,

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Speaker 1: but you know, this is the first time this has

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Speaker 1: a guy on the tag who's not showed up. And

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Speaker 1: I can't remember the last time I've been does Bryant

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Speaker 1: don't even know if you call this a holdout, but

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Speaker 1: just you know, just kind of a raise your hand. Hey,

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Speaker 1: I'm still here. I'm I'm your top tight end. I'd

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Speaker 1: like to maybe start some conversations here if we can't, please, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: David and Joku. Four years, fifty four million dollars. That's

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Speaker 1: an average about of about thirteen point seven a year,

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Speaker 1: seventeen of that fully guaranteed. So that's a that's a

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Speaker 1: I don't it really hasn't been much movement there. It

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Speaker 1: to boot before they say put my name on the cake. Right.

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Speaker 1: But he's saying, I've shown you enough and based off

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Speaker 1: then he's also taking that production and he's looking around

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Speaker 1: the league and he's saying, this guy's making more money

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Speaker 1: say that with Dalton Shows. He is an integral part

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Speaker 1: a this is a match made in heaven. Right. You

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Speaker 1: can't click the puzzle piece more perfectly than what Dalton

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Speaker 1: dumb enough to say that that they have to come

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Speaker 1: David and Joku. David and Joku is a joke to him,

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Speaker 1: I just don't want the Dallas Cowboys organization to convolute

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Speaker 1: And you guys know, I'm not a big numbers guy,

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Speaker 1: I've said that on this show before. I'm not threatened

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Speaker 1: he's mister consistency. Now, there's obviously elements of his game

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Speaker 1: utilize him for he does very well. Let's back that up. Okay,

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Speaker 1: Let's go back to in Joku and Joku four years,

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Speaker 1: he would have gotten his money. I'm not sure. Do

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Speaker 1: So yeah, you could resign him to a deal, lock

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Speaker 1: Ferguson takes a big step as a rookie, but you know,

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Speaker 1: like this, and Isaiah, if I'm dealing with it on

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Speaker 1: got out to the field. Shout out to Kenny Schumo,

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Speaker 1: my fiance's brother is uh. He was a coach at

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Speaker 1: got to see some live pitching. It's gonna be fun.

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Speaker 1: I'm excited, right, Yeah, you know, it was funny. We

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Speaker 1: were talking. He was like, yeah, I think your power

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Speaker 1: is to the gaps. You think he thinks it's gap

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Speaker 1: to It's it's kind of center right center Trout, Like,

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Speaker 1: you know what if that's what your words, not mine.

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Speaker 1: I mean, if you want to compare it to Mike Trout,

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Speaker 1: the Trout kind of judge, you know, Aaron judge a

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Speaker 1: little bit. It's more like a short porch guy though. Okay, okay,

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Speaker 1: I mean he's like six foot seven, but he hits

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Speaker 1: three hundred and twenty foot bombs. Like that's all just

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Speaker 1: sneaks over the if you dropped scrapers, if you drop

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Speaker 1: your front leg back coyle, keeping that thing up, you

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Speaker 1: can send them down the line. That's easy. That's like

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Speaker 1: three ten yeah, three ten down the line. I think

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Speaker 1: there it's three fifty four down the line. Still three

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Speaker 1: down left field for sure. Yeah. I don't know if

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Speaker 1: everybody knows you were a baseball guy a long time

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Speaker 1: ago around Yeah, but I mean different lifetime. But but

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Speaker 1: but it was a thing. It was a thing. It

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Speaker 1: was a thing. Baseball is my best sport by far.

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Speaker 1: You didn't play yet but Washington though, right, you didn't

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Speaker 1: play at Washington. I started, my friend, I started playing

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Speaker 1: my refreshman year and didn I stopped. You did do

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Speaker 1: dual sports? How you left the bag on the table?

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Speaker 1: I did draft? I turned down. I turned down one

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Speaker 1: point I turned out one point three out of high school? Draft?

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Speaker 1: What do you do? What? Okay, here's the story, all right.

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Speaker 1: So I played baseball when I was since I was six.

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Speaker 1: I didn't touch a football to I was thirteen, so baseball.

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Speaker 1: I was a griffy guy. I thought I was griffy.

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Speaker 1: Played center field. Yeah, I was up there. I was

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Speaker 1: throwing eighty five at thirteen years old, Like, I was

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Speaker 1: a baseball dude, um and got scouted earlier all that jazz.

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Speaker 1: So I got the call to get drafted by the

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Speaker 1: Mariners in the first round. The night before the draft,

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Speaker 1: they let me know they're gonna take me in the

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Speaker 1: first the first round. And you left the first round

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Speaker 1: bit on the table, and you said what And I

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Speaker 1: pulled over on the side of the road and I

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Speaker 1: told the gentleman, thank you, but I need to go

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Speaker 1: to college. And he said, back then, back then, there

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Speaker 1: was no option. It was either you're going the minor league.

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Speaker 1: Orders now they get drafted like, hey, we'll pay for

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Speaker 1: college whenever you want to finish. You know what type

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Speaker 1: of deal. This is the moneyball thing the movie from

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Speaker 1: Billy Bean. He had one. He chose the contract. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I chose. I chose. I had a ready committed University

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Speaker 1: of Washington, so I wasn't gonna renig on my commitment there,

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Speaker 1: and I did not want to go forward in life

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Speaker 1: without some form of education beyond high school. So yeah,

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Speaker 1: I turned down pro baseball. I was in high school.

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Speaker 1: It was hard man. The same same thing here. Honestly,

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Speaker 1: you got a call for I know, I spent a

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Speaker 1: lot of time and the one story that I've never

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Speaker 1: gotten the one time I got the call to go

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Speaker 1: first round two. What I'm saying, yeah, at least yeah, No,

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Speaker 1: they were thinking about signing me. It was like, I

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Speaker 1: think it was like two point three. Wow. That was

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Speaker 1: That was definitely the hardest decision decision I've ever had

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Speaker 1: to make. That was tough. Man. They were like, you

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Speaker 1: you sure, like they said, he actually laughed at me

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Speaker 1: when I said, what about college? He laughed, He's son,

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Speaker 1: this is a lot of money. They don't know what

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Speaker 1: you mean college. You come to play some ball. I'm like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: He's like, you want to go talk to your parents

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Speaker 1: about this? I was like, no, I don't believed. I'm

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Speaker 1: surprised that mama stand back didn't say put that football away.

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Speaker 1: She's should just stay right behind me. Man, But I

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Speaker 1: did get drafted by the Orioles out of college. You

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Speaker 1: turned out okay, You turned out okay. This is a

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Speaker 1: chance to talk to the Hall of Famer who mean

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Speaker 1: Joe Green on the line, one of the best defenders

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Speaker 1: in the history of the National Football League. Me and Joe,

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Speaker 1: thanks again for joining us and uh taking some time here.

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Speaker 1: We're talking cowboys. How's everything going on in your world

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Speaker 1: every day? It's fine, sir, how about yours? Absolutely fantastic.

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Speaker 1: I will also say, as a North Texas alumni, go

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Speaker 1: mean Green. So there you go, let's go. I gotta

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Speaker 1: put it out there. If it's me and Joe on

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Speaker 1: the line, I'm gonna I'm gonna say, go mean Green.

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Speaker 1: Before we really get into the nitty gritty, I want

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Speaker 1: to give you an opportunity to talk about the Green

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Speaker 1: Family Foundation. You guys do a fantastic job raising money

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Speaker 1: for those in need around the area, and you do

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Speaker 1: a lot of work around the Dallas Fort Worth Metroplex

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Speaker 1: and you've got a fundraiser coming up. It's your fourth

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Speaker 1: annual on the line coming up in the next couple

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Speaker 1: of weeks. Tell us about what's going on there and

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Speaker 1: and why it's so important to you. Well, it's it's

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Speaker 1: important to me. First of all, is because my kids

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Speaker 1: uh were involved, and they've got to start if they

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Speaker 1: were the reason for its uh, it's it's uh going

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Speaker 1: on right now. It's development, and it's it's uh to

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Speaker 1: honor their mother, my wife, Angasa Silcraft Green, and it

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Speaker 1: provides a worthwhile league for the university and University of

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Speaker 1: North Texas and some some students that R and me.

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Speaker 1: And that's that's what it's about. It's it's uh to

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Speaker 1: half worthy worthy students to get an education. That's a

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Speaker 1: great place to get an education from for sure. So

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Speaker 1: Uncle Joe, all right, look man, thank you for for

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Speaker 1: coming on the show. Today's short notice. Uh the foundation,

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Speaker 1: I want to say that the Nibble and Mingle is

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Speaker 1: the event. It's going to be on June eleventh, this Saturday, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: John eleventh starts at six thirty at the Highland Hotel.

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Speaker 1: And just to outline with my uncle Joe's talking about

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Speaker 1: my my aunt Actnes Lucilcraft Green passed UH from breast

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Speaker 1: cancer in twenty fifteen. This is a wonderful thing too

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Speaker 1: that the Green family is doing the scholarship for students

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Speaker 1: that are impacted, whether it be a parent or a

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Speaker 1: guardian that has died from breast cancer. To awards scholarships.

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Speaker 1: I mean, we all know someone who has been impacted

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Speaker 1: by cancer. And so up to date, twenty four students

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Speaker 1: have been awarded scholarships, and so the Green Family Foundation

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Speaker 1: and everything that it embodies, it has the breath of

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Speaker 1: what's going on right now in the fundraiser at the

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Speaker 1: Holland Hotel. Can't say enough about what it does for

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Speaker 1: the University of North Texas but also for students who

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Speaker 1: are impacted by cancer. But I just want to say this, guys.

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Speaker 1: You talk about an awesome place to be on Saturday.

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Speaker 1: I have been. This is going to be my fourth one.

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Speaker 1: And the amount of cowboys that are there, I believe

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Speaker 1: Cliff Harris is going to be there to Darsett has

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Speaker 1: been there in years. I don't know if he's gonna

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Speaker 1: be there this year, but you Pearson is going to

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Speaker 1: be there this year. But just a lot of Hall

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Speaker 1: of famers in the building that get this is called

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Speaker 1: the nibble and mingle, so you get an opportunity to

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Speaker 1: mingle with these Hall of Fame players. So I just

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Speaker 1: wanted to give that outline, Uncle Joe. But you know

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Speaker 1: we have some football questions. You know, we have football

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Speaker 1: questions for you. My question league, Come on, leg I

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Speaker 1: talked to eight prole young man, stand it. I remember

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Speaker 1: you when you were a little baby down We could

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Speaker 1: get into that unc Joe, don't do that with these

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Speaker 1: guys because we don't need to talk football. I'll tell you,

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Speaker 1: because my friends like these Who needs enemies? All right?

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Speaker 1: So right, So so Uncle Joe graduates, Thank you, Thank you. Um.

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Speaker 1: I want to ask you a question about being Defensive

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Speaker 1: Rookie of the Year, uh and the pressure that that

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Speaker 1: wasn't very long ago, but still as the defensive Rookie

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Speaker 1: of the Year. What was it like coming off of

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Speaker 1: that award until your second year? What was that pressure

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Speaker 1: like as a player? Well, you know, that run a

636
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Speaker 1: long time ago, and we didn't we didn't have all

637
00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:59,160
Speaker 1: the media coverage that you have these guys have today.

638
00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:03,600
Speaker 1: So UM, me being Defensive Rookie of the Year, it

639
00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:07,240
Speaker 1: was just something that I felt good about. But it

640
00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:11,000
Speaker 1: was just personal and it wasn't any I didn't put

641
00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:15,000
Speaker 1: that on anybody else, and I didn't weigh myself down

642
00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:20,400
Speaker 1: with that with that honor it Uh. You know, when

643
00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:22,960
Speaker 1: I was playing with Pittsburgh our first year, we were

644
00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:26,720
Speaker 1: in one ball game. The next year we won I

645
00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:30,920
Speaker 1: think three, So I didn't have much much room or

646
00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:33,360
Speaker 1: much time to be patting myself on the back, I'd

647
00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:36,680
Speaker 1: be nervous about being rookie of the years because our

648
00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:41,440
Speaker 1: team was really bad. So I had to be about

649
00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:43,800
Speaker 1: the work of playing football and trying to win some

650
00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:48,040
Speaker 1: ball games. And I'm sure that this this young man

651
00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:53,280
Speaker 1: from from Penn State, will have the same idea about

652
00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:56,680
Speaker 1: trying to keep his team win. He's not gonna be

653
00:33:56,800 --> 00:34:02,680
Speaker 1: worried about any kind of personal aide. He didn't come

654
00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:05,320
Speaker 1: from that kind of universe in his background. I'm sure

655
00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:09,000
Speaker 1: I've never met him, but I'm sure that his background

656
00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:13,520
Speaker 1: nothing allow or for that for those kinds of attitudes.

657
00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:17,520
Speaker 1: It's about the team. Sweet well, mister Green, this is

658
00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:19,400
Speaker 1: Isaiah Stamar. I want to say it's a pleasure to

659
00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:22,360
Speaker 1: meet you. I'm gonna go ahead and practice a deja

660
00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:24,920
Speaker 1: blue and toast that to you. Appreciate you, man, for

661
00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:28,080
Speaker 1: everything that you've done for us for the game. I

662
00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:30,680
Speaker 1: would like to know, as you look at this roster,

663
00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:33,120
Speaker 1: this Dallas Cowboys roster, is there any player on this

664
00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:37,160
Speaker 1: roster that embodies that will, determination and character that could

665
00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:39,319
Speaker 1: have played on the same field as you in your

666
00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:42,960
Speaker 1: comrades back in the day. Oh my goodness, I mean

667
00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:51,640
Speaker 1: there are a number of players, you know, m players

668
00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:55,320
Speaker 1: of different decades. You know, they bring different things to

669
00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:59,160
Speaker 1: the game. And I've always said that these guys are

670
00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:04,399
Speaker 1: probably the number of those guys are I'm not saying

671
00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:07,880
Speaker 1: that they're better athletes, but in terms of the team

672
00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:12,640
Speaker 1: of fifty guys, they may have fifty guys that are

673
00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:15,359
Speaker 1: pretty good athletes, and I'm saying we probably had maybe

674
00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:18,960
Speaker 1: twenty or thirty, so they had more. They have more

675
00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:23,080
Speaker 1: guys that that are athletic and strong, and and and

676
00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:25,920
Speaker 1: and and and they can play the positions that they

677
00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:32,800
Speaker 1: are they're um um entitled to play. So I'm saying

678
00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:41,319
Speaker 1: that athletes they come in our seasons, and I would

679
00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:46,160
Speaker 1: say that today they're just probably more of them because

680
00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:50,600
Speaker 1: they spend more time preparing. Uh. I never went to

681
00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:57,320
Speaker 1: a mini camp or OTAs. I never did that. I

682
00:35:57,400 --> 00:36:01,480
Speaker 1: just went to training camp and hated that so and

683
00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:07,359
Speaker 1: I didn't really I didn't work out until probably two

684
00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:09,200
Speaker 1: weeks is where I had to go to training again.

685
00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:15,200
Speaker 1: So that's to me, that's my personal difference. And I

686
00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:18,160
Speaker 1: know that I couldn't stack stack up against guys that

687
00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:24,160
Speaker 1: played today from the standpoint of being conditioning. So you know,

688
00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:26,839
Speaker 1: if I had waited until I got conditioned. With these guys,

689
00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:31,520
Speaker 1: I probably would have made it. Mister Green, this is

690
00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:34,360
Speaker 1: Rob Phillips. It's great to meet you. Thank you so

691
00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:37,120
Speaker 1: much for what you're doing with your foundation. My mother

692
00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:41,400
Speaker 1: in law passed breast cancer in January, so I know

693
00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:45,440
Speaker 1: my family really appreciates what your family's doing with the foundation.

694
00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:48,080
Speaker 1: M just curious your thoughts. I don't know how much

695
00:36:48,120 --> 00:36:51,560
Speaker 1: you watch of the Cowboys every season, but um, just

696
00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:54,759
Speaker 1: your impressions of this team, what they did last year,

697
00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:57,439
Speaker 1: what they need to do to get to the next

698
00:36:57,520 --> 00:37:01,480
Speaker 1: level in twenty twenty two. Well, it's it's hard to

699
00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:03,799
Speaker 1: say when you're not in those meetings and you don't

700
00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:06,360
Speaker 1: know what their strategy is and what they're talking about.

701
00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:11,280
Speaker 1: But as a fan, uh and a person that watches

702
00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:16,319
Speaker 1: the game, um, they have they it looks like they

703
00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:18,880
Speaker 1: have a dilemma there. They have a quarterback, and they

704
00:37:18,920 --> 00:37:24,680
Speaker 1: have receivers, and they have a running back, and they

705
00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:33,240
Speaker 1: did have a strong offensive line, so somewhere between running

706
00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:37,840
Speaker 1: the football and passing the football, they kind of I

707
00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:40,160
Speaker 1: think they may have lost their way a little bit.

708
00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:47,799
Speaker 1: Um when when the running back they have now, what's

709
00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:53,640
Speaker 1: his name? When? When when when he had his rookie year,

710
00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:59,560
Speaker 1: the offensive line was in place and the type of

711
00:37:59,680 --> 00:38:06,000
Speaker 1: run that he ran or we're outstanding, outstanding, and that

712
00:38:06,239 --> 00:38:10,520
Speaker 1: that gave them the impetence to throw the football to

713
00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:14,919
Speaker 1: dude just about whatever they needed. And at that point

714
00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:18,799
Speaker 1: in time, I think the defense were onesn't quite as

715
00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:24,200
Speaker 1: as good as it has been, and they were trying

716
00:38:24,239 --> 00:38:27,839
Speaker 1: to get They were trying to score everyone, and that's

717
00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:31,759
Speaker 1: that's a difficult thing to do, especially when you're giving

718
00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:37,440
Speaker 1: up points on the other side. So I think they

719
00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:40,560
Speaker 1: have to as any football team, you have to find

720
00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:45,279
Speaker 1: a balance. And right now, with so much emphasis on

721
00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:51,840
Speaker 1: throwing the football and and going empty. You know, that

722
00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:55,799
Speaker 1: was the defense's lineman's dream when I was playing, Hey yeah,

723
00:38:55,880 --> 00:39:01,880
Speaker 1: go empty, love and love and love it. So that

724
00:39:02,120 --> 00:39:06,680
Speaker 1: tells everyone that you're not going to the football, and

725
00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:12,600
Speaker 1: everyone on defense and you know, the offense, they think

726
00:39:12,680 --> 00:39:17,600
Speaker 1: that's an advantage and it might be, but that does

727
00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:22,480
Speaker 1: let the guys that like to get the quarterback go

728
00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:30,520
Speaker 1: after him. And I think the wide defensive backs probably

729
00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:34,759
Speaker 1: kind of like that also does I mean, they don't

730
00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:40,719
Speaker 1: have as much time to sign those open receivers. You know,

731
00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:43,080
Speaker 1: Uncle Joe let me ask you this question. Uh, the

732
00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:47,120
Speaker 1: when you look at a player like Aaron Donald that

733
00:39:47,320 --> 00:39:50,920
Speaker 1: just signed a two year deal that makes him one

734
00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:54,040
Speaker 1: of the highest paid defensive linemen in the league next

735
00:39:54,040 --> 00:39:56,640
Speaker 1: to quarterbacks, and you you think about what you guys

736
00:39:56,719 --> 00:39:59,680
Speaker 1: were paying for playing for back in the seventies, do

737
00:39:59,840 --> 00:40:02,960
Speaker 1: you ever say to yourself when you look at those numbers, boy,

738
00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:05,640
Speaker 1: I was in there. I was born in the wrong era.

739
00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:08,400
Speaker 1: I wish I was born now. I mean, when you

740
00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:10,920
Speaker 1: see all that money that these guys are making, I mean,

741
00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:13,359
Speaker 1: how does that make you feel, knowing that you are

742
00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:16,959
Speaker 1: one of the greatest players to ever play this game? Well,

743
00:40:17,160 --> 00:40:21,319
Speaker 1: I'm happy for them, And on the other side of that, corn,

744
00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:25,440
Speaker 1: I'm happy for myself because they couldn't have paid me

745
00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:30,319
Speaker 1: forty million dollars a year back then and me still

746
00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:36,040
Speaker 1: be alive today. I wouldn't work. It wouldn't worked, No way,

747
00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:43,640
Speaker 1: no way, no way. I wasn't I wasn't a mature

748
00:40:43,719 --> 00:40:48,920
Speaker 1: to not to handle that to that much burden. It

749
00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:52,040
Speaker 1: would have been a burden to me. That's awesome, And

750
00:40:52,600 --> 00:40:55,960
Speaker 1: thank you again for hopping on the show one more time.

751
00:40:56,200 --> 00:40:58,000
Speaker 1: I do want to plug it before we let you go.

752
00:40:58,680 --> 00:41:03,880
Speaker 1: The Green Family Foundation, Uh Nibble and Mingle coming up

753
00:41:03,960 --> 00:41:07,640
Speaker 1: this Saturday, six thirty. How can they or how can

754
00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:11,359
Speaker 1: anyone listening become a part of that? How can they donate? Uh?

755
00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:14,400
Speaker 1: And how can they help this Green Family Foundation continue

756
00:41:14,440 --> 00:41:18,320
Speaker 1: to provide scholarships for those students that that definitely deserve it.

757
00:41:18,560 --> 00:41:20,279
Speaker 1: And I can tell you, I can tell you right

758
00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:24,080
Speaker 1: now if you go on www dot Green Family Foundation

759
00:41:24,239 --> 00:41:27,480
Speaker 1: dot org, that is the first place uh to go,

760
00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:32,520
Speaker 1: and that's Green Family Foundation dot org. And that's tickets

761
00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:36,040
Speaker 1: to the Nibble and Mingle and UM donation there at

762
00:41:36,080 --> 00:41:39,080
Speaker 1: that website. Any anybody specifically you could tell us is

763
00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:41,800
Speaker 1: going to be there on Saturday, Joe, is there anybody

764
00:41:41,880 --> 00:41:45,160
Speaker 1: that's on the list that that could be of note? Well?

765
00:41:48,040 --> 00:41:52,560
Speaker 1: As as mister Harrison said, Uh, mister Pearson the new

766
00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:59,000
Speaker 1: new Dallas Cowboy Hall of Famer and uh Cliff Harris

767
00:41:59,120 --> 00:42:03,960
Speaker 1: another uh Dallas Cowboy Hall of Fame, and all the

768
00:42:04,040 --> 00:42:09,480
Speaker 1: Hall of Fames will be wearing their jackets. UM. In

769
00:42:09,640 --> 00:42:13,879
Speaker 1: the past, Tony Darsett was what was going to be there,

770
00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:18,080
Speaker 1: but he's he's out of the country this week, and

771
00:42:18,320 --> 00:42:24,080
Speaker 1: so is uh Randy White. But UH, well, we'll have

772
00:42:24,320 --> 00:42:28,000
Speaker 1: enough guys there. Well, we're gonna miss those guys. Harold

773
00:42:28,080 --> 00:42:33,160
Speaker 1: Campbell will be there, He'll be there. Yeah, that's cool.

774
00:42:35,320 --> 00:42:37,520
Speaker 1: So we're looking at looking forward to having a good

775
00:42:37,600 --> 00:42:42,680
Speaker 1: time there and at five thirty, uh, we're gonna have

776
00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:47,680
Speaker 1: a a toast, the champagne toast to early arrival. Oh

777
00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:49,960
Speaker 1: there you go. So get there early, Get there early,

778
00:42:50,040 --> 00:42:52,880
Speaker 1: and have a ton of fun with the fourth annual

779
00:42:53,040 --> 00:42:56,719
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780
00:42:56,880 --> 00:42:59,080
Speaker 1: much for taking some time to talk with us. It's

781
00:42:59,120 --> 00:43:01,680
Speaker 1: been an absolute pleasure. It's always great talking to you

782
00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:05,560
Speaker 1: and I'm sure we'll definitely have to catch back up

783
00:43:05,600 --> 00:43:08,399
Speaker 1: down the road as well. Well. Thank you for having

784
00:43:08,480 --> 00:43:10,759
Speaker 1: me on. And thank you hegman, and thank you for

785
00:43:10,960 --> 00:43:14,920
Speaker 1: talking about denial. Are you guys a pleasure? Thank you?

786
00:43:15,080 --> 00:43:17,600
Speaker 1: Thank you. There he goes. One of the best to

787
00:43:17,719 --> 00:43:21,320
Speaker 1: ever play the game, mean, Joe Green, hall of famer,

788
00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:23,000
Speaker 1: and not just a Hall of famer, but he's an

789
00:43:23,080 --> 00:43:27,000
Speaker 1: upper echelon at the gate the goat. Yeah, no doubt

790
00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:29,439
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792
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Speaker 1: needed that for a drop. It's good every time he

848
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Speaker 1: does it. I went back and listened to the show

849
00:46:48,360 --> 00:46:50,160
Speaker 1: last week to find like time cues, and it was

850
00:46:50,239 --> 00:46:52,279
Speaker 1: right at the start of a segment when he did it. Yeah,

851
00:46:52,560 --> 00:46:57,719
Speaker 1: it's like it sounds like a drop wow, baby blue Chris.

852
00:46:58,160 --> 00:47:00,520
Speaker 1: Chris could be in the back pushing up. But yeah,

853
00:47:00,680 --> 00:47:02,600
Speaker 1: in the days, you want to see me a refrigerator

854
00:47:02,640 --> 00:47:04,480
Speaker 1: and putting my office, I wouldn't be mad. Who knows?

855
00:47:04,920 --> 00:47:08,960
Speaker 1: I loaded up. We love our friends over at always.

856
00:47:09,640 --> 00:47:12,920
Speaker 1: Thanks again, special thanks to Joe Green for hopping on

857
00:47:13,000 --> 00:47:17,520
Speaker 1: the show with us again. The Green Family Foundation go online.

858
00:47:17,560 --> 00:47:20,440
Speaker 1: I'm going to tweet out the the uh the graphic

859
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Speaker 1: that was up on our stream as well. Www dot

860
00:47:23,920 --> 00:47:27,839
Speaker 1: Green Family Foundation dot org. It's a great cause, goes

861
00:47:27,960 --> 00:47:30,160
Speaker 1: a long way in the Dallas Fort Worth Metroplex, even

862
00:47:30,160 --> 00:47:32,600
Speaker 1: if you're outside of the Fort Dallas Fort Worth Metriplex.

863
00:47:33,200 --> 00:47:34,600
Speaker 1: Was awesome find a way to do it. It was

864
00:47:34,640 --> 00:47:36,920
Speaker 1: a lot of fun to talk with him. Since we

865
00:47:37,120 --> 00:47:38,840
Speaker 1: had one of the best defenders of all time on

866
00:47:38,920 --> 00:47:41,799
Speaker 1: the show. How about we talk some defense to round

867
00:47:41,840 --> 00:47:43,960
Speaker 1: out all right, I think we've got to right. Yeah,

868
00:47:44,120 --> 00:47:48,520
Speaker 1: So looking at OTAs, you don't get really a great

869
00:47:48,560 --> 00:47:52,080
Speaker 1: opportunity to see what this defense can bring this year.

870
00:47:52,239 --> 00:47:55,360
Speaker 1: But it's a big time question. They saw the uptick

871
00:47:55,440 --> 00:47:59,120
Speaker 1: from twenty twenty to twenty twenty one. Is there an

872
00:47:59,160 --> 00:48:02,360
Speaker 1: opportunity for this defense to take the next step, and

873
00:48:02,480 --> 00:48:04,840
Speaker 1: how good can this defense be this year round? I

874
00:48:04,960 --> 00:48:08,880
Speaker 1: think yes. I think having the scheme in place this

875
00:48:09,080 --> 00:48:12,440
Speaker 1: year gives a foundation for dan Quinn to build off of,

876
00:48:12,760 --> 00:48:15,160
Speaker 1: so I think, yeah, that they can be better. My

877
00:48:15,400 --> 00:48:18,799
Speaker 1: question is, can you if you're not leading the league

878
00:48:18,840 --> 00:48:22,080
Speaker 1: in takeaways like you did last year, how does that

879
00:48:22,160 --> 00:48:23,839
Speaker 1: impact your defense? Because I don't know if you can

880
00:48:23,920 --> 00:48:26,880
Speaker 1: count on that every year to get those takeaways. And

881
00:48:26,920 --> 00:48:29,319
Speaker 1: I think there were some games where they gave up

882
00:48:29,320 --> 00:48:32,160
Speaker 1: a lot of yardage but it was offset by getting

883
00:48:32,200 --> 00:48:34,759
Speaker 1: extra possessions for the offense. So if you're not doing that,

884
00:48:35,400 --> 00:48:37,480
Speaker 1: how are you How are you accounting for that? But

885
00:48:37,560 --> 00:48:41,440
Speaker 1: would you trade the turnovers for sacks if you led

886
00:48:41,480 --> 00:48:46,040
Speaker 1: the league in sacks, if they were sacks strip fumbles,

887
00:48:46,080 --> 00:48:48,640
Speaker 1: I would. I'll take the takeaways every day of the week.

888
00:48:48,719 --> 00:48:50,319
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, you already know that you're not going

889
00:48:50,360 --> 00:48:52,120
Speaker 1: to get the same number of sacks from last year,

890
00:48:52,120 --> 00:48:53,919
Speaker 1: and if you do, that's obviously going to be great

891
00:48:53,960 --> 00:48:57,400
Speaker 1: for dan Quinn. But they're saying turnovers right right, No, No,

892
00:48:57,680 --> 00:49:00,239
Speaker 1: I'm saying that the turnovers like you're not, it's going

893
00:49:00,280 --> 00:49:02,680
Speaker 1: to be the same this year from last year. But

894
00:49:02,760 --> 00:49:06,480
Speaker 1: if you're able to supplant maybe with sacks this seasons,

895
00:49:06,560 --> 00:49:08,640
Speaker 1: you have to have another part of your game. You

896
00:49:08,719 --> 00:49:10,560
Speaker 1: have to be better in the run defense, better in

897
00:49:10,680 --> 00:49:14,040
Speaker 1: pass but also if you're not getting those turnovers, can

898
00:49:14,120 --> 00:49:16,759
Speaker 1: you produce those sacks as well. Those are some of

899
00:49:16,800 --> 00:49:18,799
Speaker 1: the things that I saw last year where we were

900
00:49:18,920 --> 00:49:21,480
Speaker 1: not getting pressure at the times that you know, look,

901
00:49:21,719 --> 00:49:24,719
Speaker 1: we just needed to get a stop. And so look

902
00:49:24,800 --> 00:49:27,759
Speaker 1: looking at this defense, I believe, just based off of

903
00:49:27,800 --> 00:49:31,640
Speaker 1: what I'm seeing from OTA's that Michael Parsons don't matter

904
00:49:31,680 --> 00:49:34,359
Speaker 1: if he has on show to pass and shorts. He's

905
00:49:34,360 --> 00:49:36,480
Speaker 1: one of the best defenders in the league right now.

906
00:49:36,600 --> 00:49:39,640
Speaker 1: I'm just just saying this guy is all over the place,

907
00:49:39,920 --> 00:49:42,680
Speaker 1: and how they're gonna use him with the extra defenders.

908
00:49:42,719 --> 00:49:46,880
Speaker 1: I'm really interested to see Dante Fowler because Dante Fowler

909
00:49:47,080 --> 00:49:49,239
Speaker 1: is a player that to me looks like a guy

910
00:49:49,719 --> 00:49:51,880
Speaker 1: that could really help you in their rotation with the

911
00:49:52,000 --> 00:49:55,320
Speaker 1: edge rushers that you have, and that thing, to me,

912
00:49:55,560 --> 00:49:57,719
Speaker 1: is going to allow for Michael to play as free

913
00:49:57,800 --> 00:50:00,520
Speaker 1: as we saw him play last season way that dan

914
00:50:00,640 --> 00:50:02,960
Speaker 1: Quinn can use them. So the question is can they

915
00:50:03,040 --> 00:50:05,560
Speaker 1: be a dominant defense. I think a lot has been

916
00:50:05,600 --> 00:50:08,000
Speaker 1: said on the table about the turnovers from last year

917
00:50:08,400 --> 00:50:11,319
Speaker 1: being different this year. So I'm just I'm looking at

918
00:50:11,400 --> 00:50:13,799
Speaker 1: them to be able to dominate in another way, whether

919
00:50:13,840 --> 00:50:16,360
Speaker 1: to be stop to run or get pressures on the quarterback.

920
00:50:17,160 --> 00:50:19,920
Speaker 1: I just want them to be disruptive. Honestly, I want

921
00:50:19,960 --> 00:50:22,680
Speaker 1: this defense collectively to be disruptive. I think last year,

922
00:50:22,680 --> 00:50:24,640
Speaker 1: obviously they created a lot of chaos in terms of

923
00:50:24,640 --> 00:50:27,239
Speaker 1: the ability to create turnovers. But this year, I'm not

924
00:50:27,400 --> 00:50:29,840
Speaker 1: sure that you can really bank on that back to

925
00:50:29,880 --> 00:50:31,719
Speaker 1: back years. I mean, that was just crazy, right, that

926
00:50:31,800 --> 00:50:34,320
Speaker 1: was monumental. But I think that this defense could be

927
00:50:34,440 --> 00:50:37,440
Speaker 1: very disruptive in a sense of just just messing up

928
00:50:37,560 --> 00:50:40,040
Speaker 1: whatever whatever offenses are trying to bring to the table.

929
00:50:40,120 --> 00:50:43,360
Speaker 1: Would you consider last year's defense to be disruptive. I

930
00:50:43,520 --> 00:50:46,920
Speaker 1: think they were dangerous in the form of if you

931
00:50:46,960 --> 00:50:48,440
Speaker 1: throw the ball in the air, we're gonna get it.

932
00:50:49,080 --> 00:50:52,200
Speaker 1: I think, you know, I think you put it in

933
00:50:52,239 --> 00:50:53,840
Speaker 1: the air, we're going to grab that thing. Right, So

934
00:50:54,080 --> 00:50:56,759
Speaker 1: I think they were disruptive in that sense. I want

935
00:50:56,800 --> 00:51:00,880
Speaker 1: to see now that disruption carry over to the ground game. Yeah, Now,

936
00:51:01,080 --> 00:51:03,520
Speaker 1: I love what you said about chaos. Yeah, because that's

937
00:51:03,560 --> 00:51:06,480
Speaker 1: what you want your defense to be. And the one

938
00:51:06,560 --> 00:51:08,200
Speaker 1: game that I saw them you asked that question. I

939
00:51:08,280 --> 00:51:10,880
Speaker 1: saw them do it in spurts, but especially against the

940
00:51:10,920 --> 00:51:13,360
Speaker 1: Washington football team last year. I thought that game was

941
00:51:13,400 --> 00:51:16,200
Speaker 1: one where you were like, they are all over this team.

942
00:51:16,440 --> 00:51:18,759
Speaker 1: They are not, and obviously they were shorthanded as well,

943
00:51:18,840 --> 00:51:23,360
Speaker 1: but still the defense seemed to disrupt everything that the Commanders.

944
00:51:23,400 --> 00:51:25,680
Speaker 1: So the Washington football team was doing at the time,

945
00:51:25,960 --> 00:51:31,680
Speaker 1: They're gonna have to continue that with less seemingly now

946
00:51:32,200 --> 00:51:36,359
Speaker 1: that they've lost something on defense. Yeah, it'd be nice

947
00:51:36,360 --> 00:51:38,760
Speaker 1: to have Tank, you hope for you know, full season,

948
00:51:38,880 --> 00:51:43,000
Speaker 1: start the season healthy. But as far as chaos goes,

949
00:51:43,080 --> 00:51:45,520
Speaker 1: like I thought, that's one thing that's something Randy Gregory

950
00:51:45,600 --> 00:51:47,600
Speaker 1: brought and it wasn't you know, he'd he missed some

951
00:51:47,719 --> 00:51:50,520
Speaker 1: games and injuries or a factor and all that, but

952
00:51:50,680 --> 00:51:53,040
Speaker 1: like he could wreck a game for you. So who

953
00:51:53,280 --> 00:51:55,240
Speaker 1: is going to help fill in that role you mentioned

954
00:51:55,520 --> 00:51:59,359
Speaker 1: Dante foller U Doran s Armstrong may take a step

955
00:51:59,480 --> 00:52:01,839
Speaker 1: up in terms of of snaps. Can he deliver more

956
00:52:02,239 --> 00:52:04,160
Speaker 1: he had? He had pretty good number of pressures for

957
00:52:04,200 --> 00:52:06,080
Speaker 1: the mount of snaps he played last year, so maybe

958
00:52:06,160 --> 00:52:08,760
Speaker 1: he can take a step forward, see what Sam Williams

959
00:52:08,840 --> 00:52:11,320
Speaker 1: can bring off the edge. Like they've got some guys

960
00:52:11,360 --> 00:52:13,440
Speaker 1: that collectively they're going to try to replace that production.

961
00:52:13,760 --> 00:52:16,919
Speaker 1: And but heck's right, like you get starts up front, Yeah,

962
00:52:16,920 --> 00:52:19,440
Speaker 1: and if you bring pressure, you're most likely going to

963
00:52:19,520 --> 00:52:21,560
Speaker 1: force turnovers at some point along the way as well.

964
00:52:21,680 --> 00:52:23,919
Speaker 1: Michael Parsons did that a lot last year. He wasn't

965
00:52:23,960 --> 00:52:26,040
Speaker 1: the one that was leading the league in terms of

966
00:52:26,239 --> 00:52:29,839
Speaker 1: interceptions or forced fumbles and whatever, but he was there

967
00:52:30,040 --> 00:52:33,200
Speaker 1: providing pressure that led to plenty of interceptions along the way.

968
00:52:33,520 --> 00:52:35,840
Speaker 1: Part of why Treybond Dicks had eleven picks was because

969
00:52:36,120 --> 00:52:38,160
Speaker 1: Michael Parsons was as disruptive as he was in the

970
00:52:38,200 --> 00:52:41,960
Speaker 1: backfield throughout the season. Happened on multiple occasions throughout the year,

971
00:52:42,440 --> 00:52:45,560
Speaker 1: and Mica, I mean you mentioned it with Ota specifically.

972
00:52:46,040 --> 00:52:49,640
Speaker 1: You saw him last year and his first real offseason

973
00:52:49,760 --> 00:52:51,960
Speaker 1: work and it was jaw dropping, right, you saw him too,

974
00:52:52,080 --> 00:52:55,239
Speaker 1: You saw him to jaw dropping. Is he better this

975
00:52:55,400 --> 00:52:57,640
Speaker 1: year already, like just compared to what you saw without

976
00:52:57,680 --> 00:52:59,720
Speaker 1: the pads on last year, because I think he's already

977
00:52:59,760 --> 00:53:02,480
Speaker 1: taken and that step up now, I think you have

978
00:53:02,680 --> 00:53:06,360
Speaker 1: to assume that he is. And I'm look, I'm just

979
00:53:06,480 --> 00:53:10,880
Speaker 1: basically looking at him, just pulverized, still in practice, and

980
00:53:11,680 --> 00:53:13,800
Speaker 1: that's the thing that's your starting right tackle, right, I

981
00:53:13,840 --> 00:53:17,200
Speaker 1: mean dominating, But that's Micah. And you just see the

982
00:53:17,360 --> 00:53:19,600
Speaker 1: speed that he plays with the type of force that

983
00:53:19,680 --> 00:53:22,480
Speaker 1: he generates. Maybe we didn't see anything like this before

984
00:53:22,520 --> 00:53:25,600
Speaker 1: with a defensive rookie of the year there, or he's

985
00:53:25,640 --> 00:53:28,360
Speaker 1: eerily reminiscent to some other greats that have played in

986
00:53:28,400 --> 00:53:31,080
Speaker 1: the league. I think everybody is clock watching when it

987
00:53:31,160 --> 00:53:33,080
Speaker 1: comes down to Mica and what he's gonna do this year.

988
00:53:33,120 --> 00:53:35,880
Speaker 1: There's no way that he regresses in his second season.

989
00:53:35,920 --> 00:53:38,600
Speaker 1: I think if I'm dan Quinn, I am in the

990
00:53:38,880 --> 00:53:41,960
Speaker 1: Madman Cave trying to draw up everything that I can

991
00:53:42,360 --> 00:53:45,640
Speaker 1: for Micah to get to the quarterback. That disruption that

992
00:53:45,680 --> 00:53:48,160
Speaker 1: you're talking about, if you're not getting those turnovers exactly

993
00:53:48,239 --> 00:53:51,400
Speaker 1: what Isaiah's talking about, has to be your emo. You

994
00:53:51,520 --> 00:53:53,440
Speaker 1: have to guys have to Tampa has to get off

995
00:53:53,480 --> 00:53:56,640
Speaker 1: the bus, come in here and have their whole life

996
00:53:56,920 --> 00:54:01,520
Speaker 1: rocked by this defense from just being everywhere. Look, we've

997
00:54:01,600 --> 00:54:04,200
Speaker 1: had we've asked Trey Von Diggs and this was a

998
00:54:04,280 --> 00:54:07,120
Speaker 1: lot of pressure on him. Aside from his rookie season,

999
00:54:07,160 --> 00:54:09,920
Speaker 1: I don't think people were as impressed with him his

1000
00:54:10,080 --> 00:54:13,600
Speaker 1: second season. Man, he just basically blew everyone's socks off. Yeah,

1001
00:54:13,800 --> 00:54:17,279
Speaker 1: being in this system another season, I think he's going

1002
00:54:17,320 --> 00:54:19,480
Speaker 1: to be improved. So he may not be the guy

1003
00:54:19,520 --> 00:54:21,799
Speaker 1: that we're looking at or even thinking that can get

1004
00:54:21,880 --> 00:54:23,719
Speaker 1: any better than what he is. But what if he

1005
00:54:23,800 --> 00:54:26,960
Speaker 1: does well? And he's even talking about it specifically, And

1006
00:54:27,080 --> 00:54:29,000
Speaker 1: we've got some audio here that I want to go to.

1007
00:54:29,640 --> 00:54:32,239
Speaker 1: But but MICA's speaking. And I tweeted this out after

1008
00:54:32,320 --> 00:54:34,680
Speaker 1: the OTA practice. I said, Mica looks like a monster

1009
00:54:35,000 --> 00:54:38,239
Speaker 1: and he sounds like a vet because his mindset is

1010
00:54:38,320 --> 00:54:41,560
Speaker 1: continuously getting better. And he spoke on what Lyle Collins

1011
00:54:42,000 --> 00:54:45,960
Speaker 1: before he left kind of taught him. And I love

1012
00:54:46,080 --> 00:54:50,239
Speaker 1: this quote because it really does bring everything back into

1013
00:54:50,320 --> 00:54:52,800
Speaker 1: perspective of what he's trying to do and trying to

1014
00:54:52,880 --> 00:54:56,040
Speaker 1: avoid that second year slump. Here's the audio. Sam came

1015
00:54:56,160 --> 00:54:58,560
Speaker 1: up to me even today and said, you know, how

1016
00:54:58,600 --> 00:55:00,359
Speaker 1: do you know when to go inside? And I'm like, man,

1017
00:55:00,360 --> 00:55:03,600
Speaker 1: I'm reading half his body, you know, I said the

1018
00:55:03,680 --> 00:55:05,920
Speaker 1: best thing Lael Collins told me early on when I

1019
00:55:06,000 --> 00:55:07,759
Speaker 1: was learning how to pass for us, she was like, man,

1020
00:55:08,120 --> 00:55:11,200
Speaker 1: you got to make them fear one thing, and you know,

1021
00:55:11,360 --> 00:55:13,399
Speaker 1: I make them fear to speed, and then everything else

1022
00:55:13,480 --> 00:55:15,600
Speaker 1: can go off that because they got to respect you

1023
00:55:15,719 --> 00:55:19,359
Speaker 1: on some aspect. They got to fear the speed, fear

1024
00:55:19,400 --> 00:55:21,960
Speaker 1: to power. They got to fear something about you that's

1025
00:55:21,960 --> 00:55:24,160
Speaker 1: gonna make them set just a little bit different. I

1026
00:55:24,239 --> 00:55:27,759
Speaker 1: was like, once you you show that, then you could

1027
00:55:27,840 --> 00:55:29,800
Speaker 1: do all your counters or your moves and things that

1028
00:55:29,920 --> 00:55:31,480
Speaker 1: you want to show. But they got to respect you

1029
00:55:31,600 --> 00:55:35,160
Speaker 1: in some aspect. Gotta respect you in some aspect. You

1030
00:55:35,280 --> 00:55:38,520
Speaker 1: gotta fear one thing. It gives you chills when you

1031
00:55:38,560 --> 00:55:41,200
Speaker 1: think about it from an individual standpoint, right, and it

1032
00:55:41,400 --> 00:55:44,000
Speaker 1: is the speed for him, it absolutely is. I don't

1033
00:55:44,000 --> 00:55:46,400
Speaker 1: know who has closing speed like Michael does play in

1034
00:55:46,480 --> 00:55:49,480
Speaker 1: his position. You know that is the one thing on

1035
00:55:49,560 --> 00:55:51,040
Speaker 1: the back of my neck standing up and I don't

1036
00:55:51,040 --> 00:55:56,960
Speaker 1: have any hair, it's there. My question to you, Isaiah, specifically,

1037
00:55:57,120 --> 00:56:01,600
Speaker 1: is what is this defense going to be feared for

1038
00:56:02,400 --> 00:56:04,839
Speaker 1: if you I know he was talking about individuals there,

1039
00:56:04,880 --> 00:56:08,400
Speaker 1: but I'm putting it from a broad standpoint of the defense. Specifically,

1040
00:56:08,640 --> 00:56:10,840
Speaker 1: if you're an offense going up against this defense in

1041
00:56:10,880 --> 00:56:14,279
Speaker 1: twenty twenty two, what are they fearing. I think this

1042
00:56:14,400 --> 00:56:16,160
Speaker 1: team is going to have a lot of sacks this year.

1043
00:56:16,920 --> 00:56:20,600
Speaker 1: I really do. I think that that that chaos, that

1044
00:56:20,800 --> 00:56:23,320
Speaker 1: disruption that I was talking about. I'm hoping that it

1045
00:56:23,360 --> 00:56:25,360
Speaker 1: shows up in the in the running game. But I

1046
00:56:25,480 --> 00:56:28,880
Speaker 1: really think in the past and in terms of applying pressure,

1047
00:56:29,120 --> 00:56:31,080
Speaker 1: I really think it's gonna be pressing more so than

1048
00:56:31,200 --> 00:56:34,360
Speaker 1: last year. I don't. I know everybody's high on Gregory,

1049
00:56:34,400 --> 00:56:36,440
Speaker 1: and I know he's you know, highly acclaimed here. He's

1050
00:56:36,440 --> 00:56:38,800
Speaker 1: been through a lot and the organization respects him. But

1051
00:56:38,880 --> 00:56:42,960
Speaker 1: I never saw Gregory as that guy. Yeah, I never

1052
00:56:43,080 --> 00:56:44,920
Speaker 1: saw him. I saw him as productive, you know, and

1053
00:56:45,120 --> 00:56:47,360
Speaker 1: when he wanted to play, when he wanted to be disruptive,

1054
00:56:47,360 --> 00:56:49,600
Speaker 1: he absolutely good. It wasn't all the time. It wasn't

1055
00:56:49,600 --> 00:56:51,520
Speaker 1: all the time. He didn't his switch wasn't just on.

1056
00:56:51,840 --> 00:56:53,840
Speaker 1: You know, He's like he decided when the switch was on,

1057
00:56:54,000 --> 00:56:55,839
Speaker 1: you know, whether it's a penalty against him or somebody

1058
00:56:55,880 --> 00:56:57,920
Speaker 1: took a cheap shot at him, didn't he turned it

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00:56:57,960 --> 00:57:00,520
Speaker 1: on right, There's always something else outside measure or had

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00:57:00,600 --> 00:57:03,279
Speaker 1: to click that on for him. So one person that

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00:57:03,360 --> 00:57:06,080
Speaker 1: I'm I'm really excited to see, especially after us doing

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00:57:06,120 --> 00:57:09,320
Speaker 1: a rookie UM deal last week. Is Sam Williams. I

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00:57:09,480 --> 00:57:12,760
Speaker 1: like his personality. I think he I've played with guys

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00:57:13,080 --> 00:57:15,520
Speaker 1: that have that type of personality and those guys play

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00:57:15,560 --> 00:57:17,680
Speaker 1: with reckless abandonment. Who are some of those guys? If

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00:57:17,720 --> 00:57:21,200
Speaker 1: you have any off the top oh man, uh, Jpp,

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00:57:22,440 --> 00:57:25,520
Speaker 1: that's a good name. Yeah. Jpp is definitely one that

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00:57:25,640 --> 00:57:30,040
Speaker 1: sticks out for me. Um. You know, d Ware is

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00:57:30,080 --> 00:57:32,000
Speaker 1: somebody who like that? Who sticks out to me, somebody

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00:57:32,040 --> 00:57:36,320
Speaker 1: who is just their character, like they're not worried about

1071
00:57:36,320 --> 00:57:38,920
Speaker 1: what you think about them, Like they are who they are,

1072
00:57:39,440 --> 00:57:41,000
Speaker 1: you know, and whether you're gonna like it or you're

1073
00:57:41,000 --> 00:57:42,880
Speaker 1: not gonna like it, they carry themselves that way and

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00:57:42,960 --> 00:57:46,400
Speaker 1: they're not trying to appease anybody else. They have something

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00:57:46,480 --> 00:57:49,160
Speaker 1: that's a driving measure for them, whether it be family

1076
00:57:49,720 --> 00:57:51,479
Speaker 1: or whether it be there you know, the kids or parents.

1077
00:57:51,560 --> 00:57:53,880
Speaker 1: There's something that's that's their driving force that you can

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00:57:53,920 --> 00:57:56,520
Speaker 1: see whenever you have a conversation with them. They get

1079
00:57:56,600 --> 00:57:59,760
Speaker 1: serious about that, right and that's what you know, That's

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00:57:59,800 --> 00:58:02,280
Speaker 1: what they're thinking about when they're out there grinding every

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00:58:02,320 --> 00:58:05,160
Speaker 1: single day. That's the that's their driving measure. And then

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00:58:05,280 --> 00:58:07,520
Speaker 1: other than that, their clowns, they're like they have fun

1083
00:58:07,720 --> 00:58:09,200
Speaker 1: and they're just gonna go out there and they just

1084
00:58:09,360 --> 00:58:11,400
Speaker 1: know they're just the guys that like they just like

1085
00:58:11,520 --> 00:58:13,400
Speaker 1: messing stuff up. Yeah you know what I'm saying. Like

1086
00:58:13,440 --> 00:58:16,680
Speaker 1: they they find joy and making your life hard. And

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00:58:16,760 --> 00:58:19,320
Speaker 1: I get that same sense out of Sam Williams just

1088
00:58:19,440 --> 00:58:22,240
Speaker 1: in a brief time. Joker, just a joker man, and

1089
00:58:22,360 --> 00:58:25,200
Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to him being opposite of Mica a

1090
00:58:25,280 --> 00:58:27,240
Speaker 1: lot of times. And whenever they decided to start applying

1091
00:58:27,280 --> 00:58:29,200
Speaker 1: pressure and then you put Fowler in there as well,

1092
00:58:29,320 --> 00:58:31,479
Speaker 1: who's going to be asked to do one thing? Yeah,

1093
00:58:31,960 --> 00:58:34,960
Speaker 1: put pressure on the qby. So when you started putting this,

1094
00:58:35,080 --> 00:58:36,840
Speaker 1: when you start thinking about all these different aspects and

1095
00:58:36,880 --> 00:58:39,040
Speaker 1: their personality traits that they're starting to put together on

1096
00:58:39,120 --> 00:58:41,440
Speaker 1: that side of the ball, I believe that this defense

1097
00:58:41,480 --> 00:58:43,640
Speaker 1: can be very disruptive. Now. I love that you said

1098
00:58:43,680 --> 00:58:47,520
Speaker 1: that JPP for one, because I've always thought that JPP

1099
00:58:47,680 --> 00:58:50,680
Speaker 1: had the biggest luxury playing on that team coming in

1100
00:58:50,880 --> 00:58:53,200
Speaker 1: with I don't know, Mike strayhand O, see you what

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00:58:53,200 --> 00:58:56,640
Speaker 1: I mean? How easy? What's your job when you come

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00:58:56,720 --> 00:58:58,720
Speaker 1: in and you have guys like that in front of you.

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00:58:58,960 --> 00:59:00,800
Speaker 1: And I think the same thing about Sam Williams. I

1104
00:59:00,880 --> 00:59:03,600
Speaker 1: think he gets drafted. He comes in, he looks like

1105
00:59:03,800 --> 00:59:05,840
Speaker 1: him and Michael could be brothers. I've already said this,

1106
00:59:05,960 --> 00:59:07,600
Speaker 1: like ancestry dot Com has got to tell me that

1107
00:59:07,640 --> 00:59:10,840
Speaker 1: they're not related. But I'm just saying with a guy

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00:59:10,960 --> 00:59:12,880
Speaker 1: like that that can come in and play loose and

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00:59:13,040 --> 00:59:15,960
Speaker 1: just do one job, like you just said about Dante Fowler,

1110
00:59:16,520 --> 00:59:20,280
Speaker 1: Sam Williams job is liking the same thing. I'm pin

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00:59:20,360 --> 00:59:22,520
Speaker 1: your ears back and get to the quarterback. We have

1112
00:59:22,720 --> 00:59:24,560
Speaker 1: all these other guys that can do all the other

1113
00:59:24,680 --> 00:59:27,040
Speaker 1: things in your sub package. When you come in, come in,

1114
00:59:27,360 --> 00:59:30,640
Speaker 1: it's to get down sub package. You got one job

1115
00:59:30,680 --> 00:59:33,120
Speaker 1: and one job only get home. And so that's why

1116
00:59:33,160 --> 00:59:35,360
Speaker 1: I was saying, like, if we can't get the turnovers,

1117
00:59:35,560 --> 00:59:38,000
Speaker 1: we can get the sacks, and we can be disrupted

1118
00:59:38,080 --> 00:59:40,720
Speaker 1: because of all the quarterbacks that we have that are

1119
00:59:40,760 --> 00:59:42,560
Speaker 1: coming into at and T and that the quarterbacks that

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00:59:42,560 --> 00:59:44,400
Speaker 1: we're gonna play on the schedule. If that's one of

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00:59:44,440 --> 00:59:46,960
Speaker 1: the things that you can do is have that clock

1122
00:59:47,120 --> 00:59:49,560
Speaker 1: as a quarterback, as a former quarterback in college, if

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00:59:49,600 --> 00:59:51,400
Speaker 1: that clock is hey I gotta get this ball. I

1124
00:59:51,400 --> 00:59:53,240
Speaker 1: gotta go, I gotta go, gotta go. You know, you're

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00:59:53,320 --> 00:59:55,840
Speaker 1: rushing everything else on the back end. He's a guy

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00:59:55,920 --> 00:59:58,800
Speaker 1: that I'm looking forward to seeing week one like week

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00:59:58,920 --> 01:00:01,640
Speaker 1: one like because TV twelve. TV twelve has a little

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01:00:01,640 --> 01:00:03,040
Speaker 1: bit of a prick to him, you know what I'm saying,

1129
01:00:03,200 --> 01:00:06,160
Speaker 1: as he very well should, but he's that guy where like,

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01:00:06,240 --> 01:00:08,480
Speaker 1: how dare you touch me? Type of guy? You know

1131
01:00:08,480 --> 01:00:10,040
Speaker 1: what I mean? And Sam Williams is like one of

1132
01:00:10,040 --> 01:00:11,800
Speaker 1: those guys like, oh, I'm gonna touch you. I'm a

1133
01:00:11,960 --> 01:00:13,640
Speaker 1: poke in Yeah, I'm a poke in your neck, Like

1134
01:00:13,640 --> 01:00:15,440
Speaker 1: I'm gonna bother the heck out of you this whole day,

1135
01:00:15,560 --> 01:00:17,479
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna love it the whole way. I'm gonna

1136
01:00:17,520 --> 01:00:19,160
Speaker 1: run by even if I don't touch you, I'm gonna

1137
01:00:19,160 --> 01:00:20,400
Speaker 1: say something on the way by, just so you know

1138
01:00:20,480 --> 01:00:22,080
Speaker 1: I'm there, and I'll be back, you know, after this

1139
01:00:22,120 --> 01:00:24,200
Speaker 1: next series, I'll be right back. He's that type of guy,

1140
01:00:24,280 --> 01:00:26,600
Speaker 1: and I can't wait to see that personality come across

1141
01:00:26,640 --> 01:00:28,880
Speaker 1: on this defense. They need it. This personality. I mean,

1142
01:00:28,960 --> 01:00:31,080
Speaker 1: this defense has a personality. I mean you walk all

1143
01:00:31,080 --> 01:00:33,760
Speaker 1: the way around that there are those guys Micah Sam

1144
01:00:34,080 --> 01:00:37,000
Speaker 1: Trey Von like there's personality Bridgeway too. I like him Ridgeway,

1145
01:00:37,080 --> 01:00:38,720
Speaker 1: I like him. Yeah, we got a chance to kind

1146
01:00:38,760 --> 01:00:40,400
Speaker 1: of sit down with him for a little bit. But

1147
01:00:41,200 --> 01:00:44,200
Speaker 1: it's going to be that. I mean, as much as

1148
01:00:44,240 --> 01:00:46,640
Speaker 1: the offense has been the talking point throughout much of

1149
01:00:46,720 --> 01:00:48,720
Speaker 1: this offseason, and as it should be because of the

1150
01:00:48,760 --> 01:00:51,480
Speaker 1: disappointment that we saw toward the back half of last year,

1151
01:00:52,000 --> 01:00:55,320
Speaker 1: this defense has to be better and in certain areas

1152
01:00:55,480 --> 01:00:57,880
Speaker 1: we're gonna continue to talk about that with more talking

1153
01:00:57,960 --> 01:01:00,760
Speaker 1: cowboys down the road to it was a lot of fun.

1154
01:01:01,160 --> 01:01:04,000
Speaker 1: We had met Joe on the show. Did Let's talk

1155
01:01:04,040 --> 01:01:06,440
Speaker 1: a little? Home Run Derby learned more about Let's go okay,

1156
01:01:06,520 --> 01:01:09,160
Speaker 1: Why we're gonna have some fun tonight Reliant home on

1157
01:01:09,280 --> 01:01:12,240
Speaker 1: Derby six thirty. Come see the cowboys out there. I'll

1158
01:01:12,240 --> 01:01:16,240
Speaker 1: already be holding my championship. How many cuts do you

1159
01:01:16,320 --> 01:01:18,680
Speaker 1: get tonight? So it's ten ounce in the first round,

1160
01:01:18,720 --> 01:01:21,440
Speaker 1: seven outs in the second round? Five ounces? Who are

1161
01:01:21,440 --> 01:01:25,800
Speaker 1: you up against? R J? Choppy Pat Doney? If you

1162
01:01:25,880 --> 01:01:28,280
Speaker 1: can't take down Pat Doney? And come on now, we

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01:01:28,400 --> 01:01:30,040
Speaker 1: got twenty two cuts? How many how many home ERUs

1164
01:01:30,080 --> 01:01:31,840
Speaker 1: youre getting out of twenty two cuts. Well, no, if

1165
01:01:31,880 --> 01:01:35,600
Speaker 1: I hit a homer, then I get another cut out. Shoot, Kyle,

1166
01:01:35,800 --> 01:01:40,919
Speaker 1: I'm rolling. Did they move the fence up? Yeah, let's

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01:01:40,960 --> 01:01:43,920
Speaker 1: freaking go. Let's get after it boys, six thirty, Come

1168
01:01:44,000 --> 01:01:46,320
Speaker 1: watch it. Ninth Daniel rely on Home Run Derby. It's

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Speaker 1: a lot of fun. Back for the first time since

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Speaker 1: twenty nineteen. We'll be back next week. So what you're

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01:01:51,120 --> 01:01:54,480
Speaker 1: saying is that next week, Kyle trout, when we up,

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Speaker 1: when we got a full review next week starting We're

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Speaker 1: starting show with the good battle. I'm gonna wear the

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01:02:04,320 --> 01:02:06,480
Speaker 1: egg and I'm popping here and I'll be ashamed. I'll

1175
01:02:06,520 --> 01:02:10,720
Speaker 1: wear a hat or something. Now that won't be you dog. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's right. All right, that's it for Talking Cowboys this week.

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Speaker 1: For Chris being Rob Phillips is Isaiah stand back, heck

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Speaker 1: my Harrison, I'm Kyle Yeoman's We'll see you next Tuesday. Here,

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Speaker 1: I'm talking Cowboys. This has been a production of Dallas

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