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<v Speaker 2>Welcome in, We'll drive in the Great episode two ninety four.

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<v Speaker 2>Appropriately dressed today with the Chiefs Colors villain sweatshirt. He got,

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<v Speaker 2>all right, you need a bad guy, will be your

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<v Speaker 2>bad guy. I You are gonna unbelievable. The amount of

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<v Speaker 2>whining and bitching and moaning from folks at the praying

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<v Speaker 2>at the altar, defending a Texans team that did everything

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<v Speaker 2>you do to lose a game. Terrible special teams. Check

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<v Speaker 2>lose your composure, check score one touchdown on offense, check

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<v Speaker 2>all the refs, every single one of those calls. Everyone's

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<v Speaker 2>complaining about having when the Chiefs had the ball. The

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<v Speaker 2>Texans big advantage is their defensive line. Their guy got

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<v Speaker 2>sacked eight times their guy. So but that's fine. I

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<v Speaker 2>part of me understands it because I will admit, during

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<v Speaker 2>the midst of the Patriots dynasty, I felt like they

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<v Speaker 2>got all the calls, so I empathize. But what was

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<v Speaker 2>tied to the Patriots. The feeling of the unfairness with

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<v Speaker 2>the Patriots was the multiple documented cheating scandals that they

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<v Speaker 2>lost half picks or had their quarterback suspended four so

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<v Speaker 2>it was like, oh, it feels like it might not

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<v Speaker 2>all be above board. The Chiefs invite a pop star

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<v Speaker 2>to a game and people are like, man, the NFL's

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<v Speaker 2>rigging it. By the way, how would that work. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>just curious when they're like, the NFL is rigging it.

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<v Speaker 2>We know the NFL is just thirty two owners of

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<v Speaker 2>other teams. They're like, guys, here's the plan. We're screwing

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<v Speaker 2>our own team, and the Texans owners like, gosh darn it.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, fine, I'm in on it, but I don't

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<v Speaker 2>like it. Boys, but I'm in on it. So it's

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<v Speaker 2>not the owner, So who is it? Roger Goodell, who

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<v Speaker 2>works for the owners and makes sixty million a year.

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<v Speaker 2>Sixty million a year, highest speed person in sports. More

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<v Speaker 2>he might make all in more than show. Hey, and

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<v Speaker 2>he's like, all right, at the risk of ruining the

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<v Speaker 2>greatest gig in sports, I just gotta tell you. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>just gonna tell Cleate Blakeman fifty to fifty calls, give

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<v Speaker 2>him to the chiefs every time, morons. We'll get to

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<v Speaker 2>that in a moment, but first, demand's good to see you.

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<v Speaker 2>We didn't talk this weekend, A tough spot for your ravens.

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<v Speaker 2>Feel like we've been here before. We'll get to that

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<v Speaker 2>in a moment, but we'll do the show as schedule

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<v Speaker 2>as we normally do. Here's what missed the cut. This

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<v Speaker 2>is where I hate the producers. I have a very

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<v Speaker 2>carefully curated social media feed to where I have avoided

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<v Speaker 2>everything about this young man Rizzler. I don't know who

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<v Speaker 2>he is. I don't know how he got famous. I

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<v Speaker 2>know nothing about him. But now he's leading the show

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<v Speaker 2>because he was at the football game. TikTok bandon unbanded.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh okay, nice, I really don't know. Is that what

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<v Speaker 2>he wore? I have no idea I thought for if

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<v Speaker 2>you would have asked me three weeks ago. I thought

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<v Speaker 2>Baby Gronk's nickname was Rizzler. I didn't know these were

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<v Speaker 2>two different kids who were gonna have be parents are

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<v Speaker 2>taking advantage of them, and changes to the national spelling

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<v Speaker 2>be have. I I'm on one today and I know

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<v Speaker 2>people want the football commentaries grace football week in the year.

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<v Speaker 2>Have I ever told the audience? Have I even ever

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<v Speaker 2>told you demanse my spelling bee history?

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<v Speaker 3>Have I ever believe?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if I have. Maybe I know I

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<v Speaker 2>haven't told it to the audience, but real quick, so

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<v Speaker 2>I every year, for like however long you do spelling

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<v Speaker 2>me five six years, I'm not sure. Every year crushed

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<v Speaker 2>my school spelling bee crushed. There was some like my

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<v Speaker 2>local spelling bee, because then you advanced to like the

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<v Speaker 2>you know, like the district or whatever, and then every

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<v Speaker 2>single year at either sectionals or regionals before you got

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<v Speaker 2>to the nationals, the biggest of the big stage not

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<v Speaker 2>only would not win it, but would trip up over

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<v Speaker 2>a word I got right before, like just disaster, year

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<v Speaker 2>after year after year. And then in my student newspaper

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<v Speaker 2>at my school there was somebody took a shot at me,

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<v Speaker 2>like made fun of me about like like yeah, yeah, exactly,

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<v Speaker 2>and my and my mom and my sister, my mom

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<v Speaker 2>and my sister, like it went. After this person came

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<v Speaker 2>to my defense, was like this shouldn't be allowed. These

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<v Speaker 2>are fellow student all of it all right, So I

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<v Speaker 2>just made that whole story up. But in that story,

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<v Speaker 2>Lamar Jackson is me the speller. I'm the kid in

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<v Speaker 2>the student newspaper, and everyone else in the media is

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<v Speaker 2>my mom and my sister. Why are you being so mean?

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<v Speaker 2>He does so well at the local level. Why are

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<v Speaker 2>you pointing this out? So let's just have the conversation.

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<v Speaker 2>They'll say it again.

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<v Speaker 4>The analogy you're at school. You can't do that at school.

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<v Speaker 4>We can't like cast somebody else.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>The analogy was I'm the greatest ever and then the

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<v Speaker 2>stakes get high and I don't play like myself, and

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<v Speaker 2>somebody had the audacity to be like, hey, this seems relevant.

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<v Speaker 2>And the reason the story was believable is because, well, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>that's a fair criticism, but your mom and your sister

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<v Speaker 2>wouldn't want you to be criticized like that. But in reality,

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<v Speaker 2>it's one of the highest profile athletes in the world.

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<v Speaker 2>One guy in me, who's like, I don't know, guys,

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<v Speaker 2>I'd maybe pump the brakes on giving him all of

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<v Speaker 2>the awards you can receive every year, and then everyone

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<v Speaker 2>else in the media being like, oh, be nice. Come on,

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<v Speaker 2>I gotta listen to Dan Orlovsky being like, if you

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<v Speaker 2>blame anyone for the Ravens loss, you're a loser. Shut up.

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<v Speaker 2>This is the listen. Go coach a team like they

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<v Speaker 2>at the Well, we'll get to that in a minute, demons,

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<v Speaker 2>Let's do the Ravens game.

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<v Speaker 4>Uh yeah, So Lamar obviously didn't put that narrative to

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<v Speaker 4>bed when he played up against the Bills on Sunday. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>so we we obviously know he tends to taper off

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<v Speaker 4>in the postseason. Do you think that this might have

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<v Speaker 4>been more on somebody else or is this all Lamar?

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<v Speaker 3>Where are you putting the blame?

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<v Speaker 2>Beer's certainly not all Lamar. And the second half rally

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<v Speaker 2>was a positive sign. No, this could have gone totally

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<v Speaker 2>sideways on it and it could have been career defining,

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<v Speaker 2>and instead he did rally and play well in the

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<v Speaker 2>second half, and they almost had a chance to tie,

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<v Speaker 2>or they did have a chance to tie the game

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<v Speaker 2>and be at that moment, plus four hundred underdog. Like,

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<v Speaker 2>here's where I will The Mark Andrews fumble was brutal.

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<v Speaker 2>The Mark Andrews drop was brutal in how it looked.

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<v Speaker 2>But here is where the gambler and math part of

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<v Speaker 2>my brain were just gonna actually tease this out. Guys.

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<v Speaker 2>If Mark Andrews catches that two point conversion, what's the

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<v Speaker 2>live money line? Because I think the Bills are minus

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<v Speaker 2>four hundred. You know, like that's insane. Okay, well, let's

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<v Speaker 2>talk it through. It would have been Bill's ball a

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<v Speaker 2>minute thirty three left, two timeouts. What is the percent

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<v Speaker 2>chance that you hold them to zero points? What is it?

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<v Speaker 2>Fifty percent? I think lower, but they had just driven

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<v Speaker 2>all the way down the field and got into the

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<v Speaker 2>one yard line. I say it's probably thirty percent, but

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<v Speaker 2>let's call it fifty percent. You hold them to zero points,

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<v Speaker 2>you have a coin flip chance at that, and then

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<v Speaker 2>the game goes to overtime. That's a fifty to fifty

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<v Speaker 2>proposition as well. With two teams this evenly matched, So

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<v Speaker 2>you were a two point conversion away from being one

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<v Speaker 2>in four at best to win the game at best.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm not gonna kill Mark Andrews, but he was brutal,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm not gonna kill Lamar. But what I'm also

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<v Speaker 2>not going to do is be gaslighted by other media

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<v Speaker 2>members that have just changed the definitions of how we

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<v Speaker 2>judge athletes for one specific player. I'm not going to

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<v Speaker 2>do it. And I'm also not going to engage in

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<v Speaker 2>the level of intellectual, in my opinion, dishonesty that folks

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<v Speaker 2>are engaging in. And I want to say this on

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<v Speaker 2>the front end. Almost every person I got into Twitter

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<v Speaker 2>exchange with yesterday. In fact, yeah, every person I got

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<v Speaker 2>into Twitter exchange with yesterday I like. And one of them,

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<v Speaker 2>Bill Barnwell, I have said for fifteen years since I

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<v Speaker 2>was doing radio in Kansas City, I think he is

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<v Speaker 2>the smartest person in the world that covers the NFL,

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<v Speaker 2>which is what makes this stuff so disappointing to me.

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<v Speaker 2>At its base base level, you have a player in

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<v Speaker 2>Lamar who all year long. It's not only that he

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<v Speaker 2>just had four interceptions, it's that the folks who were

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<v Speaker 2>arguing he should be MVP again would show you those

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<v Speaker 2>four interceptions, and we've all seen the clips. None were

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<v Speaker 2>his fault. Actually three of them hit the receiver's hands.

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<v Speaker 2>So really, he went all year without a horrendous throw

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<v Speaker 2>that was intercepted, and on the second drive of the

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<v Speaker 2>playoff game made his worst pass of the year. They

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<v Speaker 2>would also tell you all year long he avoided the

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<v Speaker 2>awful mistakes, and then on the third drive of the

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<v Speaker 2>playoff game set the ball on the ground without anyone

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<v Speaker 2>touching his upper body. And then they would also tell

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<v Speaker 2>you that his escapability and maneuverability in the pocket and

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<v Speaker 2>his ability to remain a pocket passer while avoiding the

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<v Speaker 2>rush is what differentiates him. And then on the fourth

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<v Speaker 2>drive of the game, took a horrendous sack that took

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<v Speaker 2>him out from the two yard line to the eight

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<v Speaker 2>yard line, probably cost him four points. And then they

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<v Speaker 2>would also tell you, because I remember it during Raven's Bengals,

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<v Speaker 2>when Burrow was playing great, Lamar was playing great. Difference

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<v Speaker 2>between Burrow and Lamar, one of them is Burrow couldn't

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<v Speaker 2>get those two point conversions that he needed. Lamar can

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<v Speaker 2>get him with his arms, with his legs, with anything.

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<v Speaker 2>And then not the Mark Andrew's two point conversion the

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<v Speaker 2>one before after Derrick Henry gets you all the way

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<v Speaker 2>down the field, they put the ball in Lamar's hands,

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<v Speaker 2>he doesn't run, he tries to pass ball, gets batted down.

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<v Speaker 2>All those things happened. None of those things were happening

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<v Speaker 2>during the regular season. And I'm an a because I

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<v Speaker 2>think the guy's a different player in the postseason. The

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<v Speaker 2>last time Lamar Jackson had multiple turnovers in a game,

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<v Speaker 2>any guesses context clues, it makes into what I'm saying

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<v Speaker 2>the last play the playoffs game against the Chiefs, the

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<v Speaker 2>AFC Championship game. So he goes all year without a

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<v Speaker 2>multi multi turnover game and then bang, first half happens.

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<v Speaker 2>Now again he rallied and played well. But it is

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<v Speaker 2>so patronizing to the player for a guy who, if

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<v Speaker 2>Aaron Rodgers retires, will have more First team All Pros

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<v Speaker 2>than the rest of the quarterbacks in the the NFL combined.

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<v Speaker 2>Who a guy, if Vegas is correct, is about to

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<v Speaker 2>win his third MVP, So all time MVP list will

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<v Speaker 2>be Peyton won, Aaron Rodgers two, Lamar Jackson three, same

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<v Speaker 2>amount as Tom Brady, more than Patrick Mahomes or Joe Montana.

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<v Speaker 2>That that guy gets judged on the same standard that

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<v Speaker 2>people were holding Brock Purty to last year in the playoffs. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>he was brutal in the first half, but he rallied

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<v Speaker 2>in the second and PTY at least won those games.

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<v Speaker 2>And then we have folks twisting themselves in knots to argue, actually,

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<v Speaker 2>he was good, and that's the part that I can't abide.

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<v Speaker 2>And this is what Bill and Ben and Steven that

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<v Speaker 2>I was arguing with on Twitter yesterday. We're arguing it

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't that just that, Nick, It's just one game.

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<v Speaker 3>It was no.

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<v Speaker 2>Actually, Lamar was really good yesterday. That was the argument, Yead.

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<v Speaker 2>He was actually really good. Yes, he made two mistakes

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<v Speaker 2>which took points off the board, put the team in

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<v Speaker 2>a hole, got them out of their game plan. They

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<v Speaker 2>didn't feel comfortable just leaning on Derrick Henry all of that.

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<v Speaker 2>But he was actually really good. And that's simply not

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<v Speaker 2>how playoff football works. There is no such thing as

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<v Speaker 2>the game where you make the mistakes that set the

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<v Speaker 2>table for your team to lose. Your team then loses,

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<v Speaker 2>and you played really well. And the idea that we

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<v Speaker 2>ever hold good but not great near the end of

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<v Speaker 2>their career tight ends to the same standard as smack

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<v Speaker 2>dab in the middle of your prime defending MVP likely

0:16:26.600 --> 0:16:34.360
<v Speaker 2>repeat MVP quarterback is just dishonest. So let's go through

0:16:34.400 --> 0:16:37.800
<v Speaker 2>the tweets and we'll start with my friend Ben Solak,

0:16:38.000 --> 0:16:40.960
<v Speaker 2>who I think is excellent. And I said this at

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<v Speaker 2>the front end on the front end, where Ben says,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm very surprised he made such bad mistakes in the

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<v Speaker 2>first half, as he's avoided them those all season. Extremely

0:16:52.160 --> 0:16:57.520
<v Speaker 2>unlike him. Pause, and this is demand's ware and listen,

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<v Speaker 2>I know you don't like my Lamar opinions, and so

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<v Speaker 2>maybe you'll maybe you're more with them than with me.

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<v Speaker 2>But I think that's I think that first clause there

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<v Speaker 2>is wrong. It's not extremely unlike him at all. In

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<v Speaker 2>the playoffs, He's played eight playoff games, four of them

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<v Speaker 2>he's had multiple turnovers. He's played ninety four regular season games,

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<v Speaker 2>fourteen of those he's had multiple turnovers. It is extremely

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<v Speaker 2>unlike him in the regular season. Happens all the time

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<v Speaker 2>in the playoffs. And then I Ben, and this to

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<v Speaker 2>me is where guys are. They are smarter than their

0:17:42.480 --> 0:17:46.520
<v Speaker 2>Lamar defense allows them to be. Because Ben wrights and

0:17:46.560 --> 0:17:48.840
<v Speaker 2>we can say if we go back to that, Sorry, guys,

0:17:49.240 --> 0:17:52.160
<v Speaker 2>of course, this is the difference between Mahomes and Alan

0:17:52.240 --> 0:17:56.119
<v Speaker 2>Lamar Burrow everyone. Mahomes has nearly never failed in these moments,

0:17:56.160 --> 0:17:59.040
<v Speaker 2>whereas everyone else has a few. That's not the difference.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not Mahomes versus these guys. It's that we have

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<v Speaker 2>four right now, Mount rushmore current quarterbacks. Do we agree

0:18:11.320 --> 0:18:16.800
<v Speaker 2>demanse those four Mahomes, Alan Burrow, Lamar everyone on the

0:18:16.840 --> 0:18:19.919
<v Speaker 2>same page that those are the guys. Now. Jaden is

0:18:19.960 --> 0:18:22.640
<v Speaker 2>trying to elbow his way in there, and we'll get

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<v Speaker 2>to him in a moment, but those are the guys, right,

0:18:26.080 --> 0:18:31.160
<v Speaker 2>those are the guys. Yes, Mahomes has elevated past the others,

0:18:32.320 --> 0:18:38.439
<v Speaker 2>but what the others have is a playoff run or

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<v Speaker 2>two where they also answered the bell every time. So

0:18:44.960 --> 0:18:50.200
<v Speaker 2>positioning it as it's not just about do you ever fail,

0:18:50.880 --> 0:18:57.919
<v Speaker 2>it's do you ever not have your worst game of

0:18:57.960 --> 0:19:03.359
<v Speaker 2>the season in the play playoffs. Burrows had played the

0:19:03.400 --> 0:19:06.240
<v Speaker 2>playoff run in twenty twenty one and the playoff run

0:19:06.240 --> 0:19:09.600
<v Speaker 2>in twenty twenty two. Burrow was good to very good

0:19:10.040 --> 0:19:15.240
<v Speaker 2>every time. Josh Allen in twenty twenty one was superb

0:19:15.280 --> 0:19:18.560
<v Speaker 2>in both those games. Josh Allen in twenty twenty three

0:19:19.200 --> 0:19:22.959
<v Speaker 2>was superb and then good in both of those games.

0:19:24.520 --> 0:19:27.600
<v Speaker 2>So that's the differentiator. Now we'll keep going, We'll go

0:19:27.680 --> 0:19:32.600
<v Speaker 2>through these because this is meaningful. And so I just

0:19:32.640 --> 0:19:35.159
<v Speaker 2>explained that tweet. So let's we can go back to

0:19:35.200 --> 0:19:40.199
<v Speaker 2>Ben and this is where I say, what are we

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<v Speaker 2>doing well? I'd say Lamar was pretty good in this run.

0:19:45.400 --> 0:19:49.960
<v Speaker 2>Say for exactly two plays, pause it. What is this run?

0:19:51.160 --> 0:19:54.600
<v Speaker 2>Played two games? One of them was excellent, the other

0:19:54.640 --> 0:20:00.600
<v Speaker 2>one the two plays lost your team the game. So

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<v Speaker 2>that's not a to me, that is not a a

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<v Speaker 2>an idea that exists.

0:20:09.600 --> 0:20:11.040
<v Speaker 3>God please lose you the game.

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<v Speaker 4>But like you have to finish the game out and

0:20:13.160 --> 0:20:16.679
<v Speaker 4>he showed up, you know, Like I think it's like

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<v Speaker 4>once the turnovers happen, it's like it's nothing you could do.

0:20:19.520 --> 0:20:22.240
<v Speaker 4>But like after that, I think it's about, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>how you play after that and how you build on it.

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<v Speaker 4>And I think he did the best he possibly could have.

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<v Speaker 4>Like it's like they have so.

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<v Speaker 2>That so that part, so I don't know why people

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<v Speaker 2>wouldn't say that, Which is the argument that you're forming

0:20:38.720 --> 0:20:46.040
<v Speaker 2>there is you Nick, you should be more optimistic about

0:20:46.240 --> 0:20:52.280
<v Speaker 2>Lamar in the postseason moving forward because of how he

0:20:52.400 --> 0:20:57.399
<v Speaker 2>rallied in the second half. Okay, that's a legitimate discussion

0:20:57.640 --> 0:21:01.360
<v Speaker 2>because he could have crumbled. They were down double digits.

0:21:01.640 --> 0:21:05.680
<v Speaker 2>He fought them almost all the way back. They did

0:21:05.720 --> 0:21:08.560
<v Speaker 2>have a chance to tie the game. Now, I again,

0:21:08.600 --> 0:21:10.719
<v Speaker 2>they still would have been a significant dog, but whatever,

0:21:11.080 --> 0:21:15.320
<v Speaker 2>that's legitimate. But that is totally different than he And

0:21:15.400 --> 0:21:18.960
<v Speaker 2>let's go back to Ben's tweet, he was excellent in

0:21:19.000 --> 0:21:21.760
<v Speaker 2>this game. Are in this run aside from two plays,

0:21:23.200 --> 0:21:26.320
<v Speaker 2>and then this is where we get to I think

0:21:27.280 --> 0:21:31.280
<v Speaker 2>just a fundamental misunderstanding of how you evaluate football, which

0:21:31.280 --> 0:21:34.920
<v Speaker 2>is sample sized stuff. Excellent playoff run isn't super interesting

0:21:34.960 --> 0:21:37.720
<v Speaker 2>to me when a player's career is six seasons old.

0:21:38.359 --> 0:21:42.160
<v Speaker 2>It's seven. But that's fine, especially in a conference this stacked.

0:21:42.520 --> 0:21:45.080
<v Speaker 2>If you asked me for a market on Will Lamar

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<v Speaker 2>of a consensus excellent playoff run at some point in

0:21:47.560 --> 0:21:52.040
<v Speaker 2>his career, I'd price it at like minus one thousand, Lol. Okay,

0:21:52.400 --> 0:21:57.320
<v Speaker 2>and Ben that the that's a if you'd price it

0:21:57.320 --> 0:21:59.920
<v Speaker 2>at that, we can lay that wager because I don't

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<v Speaker 2>that Peyton never did. I don't know that Marino ever did.

0:22:03.680 --> 0:22:05.800
<v Speaker 2>And those are two of the greatest quarterbacks ever. So

0:22:05.880 --> 0:22:08.040
<v Speaker 2>let's just you guys and producers. We can just roll

0:22:08.080 --> 0:22:14.879
<v Speaker 2>through these and I'll get to the and so he

0:22:15.280 --> 0:22:17.880
<v Speaker 2>then responds to me he entered knuck led mode when

0:22:17.880 --> 0:22:21.320
<v Speaker 2>he had spent all season avoiding it. Extremely frustrating. I

0:22:21.400 --> 0:22:23.959
<v Speaker 2>just don't think it's nearly as predictive as of future

0:22:24.000 --> 0:22:34.680
<v Speaker 2>postseason performance, and what possibly could be predictive of future

0:22:34.720 --> 0:22:41.240
<v Speaker 2>postseason performance than one's entire postseason career. Then, and maybe

0:22:41.240 --> 0:22:43.720
<v Speaker 2>there is just a belief some people have that I

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<v Speaker 2>do not share that playoff football is no different than

0:22:48.320 --> 0:22:51.840
<v Speaker 2>regular season football. But I think we're seeing we have

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<v Speaker 2>seen this this weekend. The quarterback with the better stats

0:22:56.359 --> 0:22:59.960
<v Speaker 2>has not really fared that well, except for Commander's Lions.

0:23:00.680 --> 0:23:04.560
<v Speaker 2>It's the it's the quarterback who's been able to avoid disaster. Now,

0:23:04.600 --> 0:23:07.960
<v Speaker 2>at some point we'll have an old school quarterback duel

0:23:08.160 --> 0:23:10.960
<v Speaker 2>where both guys play great. We haven't had it yet.

0:23:11.160 --> 0:23:15.040
<v Speaker 2>The weather gets tougher, the defenses get tougher, players get

0:23:15.040 --> 0:23:17.520
<v Speaker 2>more nervous. And let's roll through Ben. Because I don't

0:23:17.520 --> 0:23:20.480
<v Speaker 2>want to pick on Ben, but these were public tweets,

0:23:21.760 --> 0:23:26.800
<v Speaker 2>the and the He said, it's not that it's hard

0:23:26.800 --> 0:23:29.800
<v Speaker 2>to admit not admit, it's that's remarkably less meaningful to

0:23:29.840 --> 0:23:35.080
<v Speaker 2>me than his body of work, which is legitimately six

0:23:35.160 --> 0:23:42.159
<v Speaker 2>seasons of legitimately unbelievable football. And so yeah, I I

0:23:42.560 --> 0:23:49.280
<v Speaker 2>personally for quarterbacks value playoff performance disproportunately the regular season performance.

0:23:49.840 --> 0:23:52.280
<v Speaker 2>And then Ben goes to the sample size stuff. Eight

0:23:52.320 --> 0:23:56.200
<v Speaker 2>game sample, eight games in the NFL is a huge sample, guys,

0:23:56.920 --> 0:24:00.760
<v Speaker 2>Eight games of playoff football. How many playoff games do you,

0:24:00.800 --> 0:24:07.840
<v Speaker 2>guys think Dan Marino played in his career? Dan Marino again,

0:24:08.119 --> 0:24:10.360
<v Speaker 2>one of the greatest quarterbacks ever. You know how many

0:24:10.359 --> 0:24:13.560
<v Speaker 2>playoff games he played? Eighteen? So eight games almost half

0:24:13.560 --> 0:24:16.119
<v Speaker 2>of that. Joe Burrow, how many playoff games do you

0:24:16.119 --> 0:24:20.320
<v Speaker 2>think he has played? The enter is seven, so eight

0:24:20.400 --> 0:24:25.119
<v Speaker 2>games is meaningful. And then we'll wrap up with Ben

0:24:25.560 --> 0:24:27.480
<v Speaker 2>and where because I make the point about the sample

0:24:27.520 --> 0:24:31.840
<v Speaker 2>size stuff, and then this is where again guys just

0:24:31.920 --> 0:24:36.480
<v Speaker 2>lose the plot. One thing that's also true specifically on

0:24:36.560 --> 0:24:39.240
<v Speaker 2>Lamar is they had to spend time the first couple

0:24:39.320 --> 0:24:42.439
<v Speaker 2>of seasons figuring out what weight running game usage they

0:24:42.480 --> 0:24:45.520
<v Speaker 2>wanted for him. He's more healthy in the playoffs. His

0:24:45.520 --> 0:24:48.720
<v Speaker 2>body tap type in play style was is I don't know,

0:24:48.800 --> 0:24:51.720
<v Speaker 2>yet more liable for deturation over twenty game season than

0:24:51.760 --> 0:24:54.840
<v Speaker 2>Mahomes or Borrow or even Allen, which may mean he'll

0:24:54.880 --> 0:24:57.880
<v Speaker 2>always be a little worse than The postseason was very

0:24:57.880 --> 0:25:02.119
<v Speaker 2>healthy this year though, first year with Henry exactly. I

0:25:02.200 --> 0:25:05.439
<v Speaker 2>appreciate that we got there. Now we can put it

0:25:05.480 --> 0:25:09.600
<v Speaker 2>on weight or but at the end of the day,

0:25:09.880 --> 0:25:12.080
<v Speaker 2>it's like, oh, yeah, by the way, I agree, he's

0:25:12.119 --> 0:25:17.480
<v Speaker 2>worse than the playoffs, okay, and now the and we'll

0:25:17.480 --> 0:25:21.320
<v Speaker 2>go through these other ones faster. My buddy Bill Barnwell,

0:25:21.680 --> 0:25:26.399
<v Speaker 2>who I texted Bill because I was listening to a

0:25:26.440 --> 0:25:32.120
<v Speaker 2>pod from before this game where Bill said Lamar has

0:25:32.240 --> 0:25:37.040
<v Speaker 2>been the best, the best quarterback in the NFL the

0:25:37.160 --> 0:25:41.720
<v Speaker 2>last two years, the best, the best quarterback in the

0:25:41.800 --> 0:25:45.359
<v Speaker 2>NFL the last two years. And I was like, you

0:25:45.400 --> 0:25:50.000
<v Speaker 2>got you gotta be kidding me, Bill. And this is

0:25:50.000 --> 0:25:52.639
<v Speaker 2>where I'll just read Bill's tweet and full because it

0:25:52.840 --> 0:25:55.359
<v Speaker 2>to be fair to him. But I just don't. I

0:25:55.400 --> 0:26:00.879
<v Speaker 2>can't follow this reasoning. But even with the turn, Lamar

0:26:01.160 --> 0:26:06.440
<v Speaker 2>was dot dot dot better than Patrick Mahomes yesterday, twenty

0:26:06.480 --> 0:26:10.920
<v Speaker 2>points of QBR better. The offense scored more points, he

0:26:11.000 --> 0:26:13.800
<v Speaker 2>moved the ball better and did that without his top

0:26:13.840 --> 0:26:16.960
<v Speaker 2>wide receiver all game and with his top tight end

0:26:17.280 --> 0:26:22.679
<v Speaker 2>seemingly actively sabotaging the team. No arguing Mahomes has been

0:26:22.720 --> 0:26:25.000
<v Speaker 2>better than Lamar in the postseason over the course of

0:26:25.040 --> 0:26:29.399
<v Speaker 2>their careers, but over the last two years the window

0:26:29.440 --> 0:26:34.680
<v Speaker 2>in which I'm talking about, their postseason numbers are dot

0:26:34.760 --> 0:26:40.160
<v Speaker 2>dot dot basically identical. But one guy's had his top

0:26:40.160 --> 0:26:42.320
<v Speaker 2>wide receiver fumble away the ball at the one yard

0:26:42.320 --> 0:26:44.760
<v Speaker 2>line of the AFC Championship game, and his top tight

0:26:44.840 --> 0:26:47.480
<v Speaker 2>end fumble away along completion drop game tying two pointer,

0:26:47.720 --> 0:26:49.800
<v Speaker 2>and the others receivers as urrific as they were in

0:26:49.840 --> 0:26:53.320
<v Speaker 2>the twenty twenty three season, haven't. Okay, So let's just

0:26:53.600 --> 0:26:58.679
<v Speaker 2>disregard the fact, as I pointed out that everyone's you know,

0:26:58.880 --> 0:27:03.280
<v Speaker 2>talks about, Zay Flowers fumbled the ball with the Ravens

0:27:03.400 --> 0:27:07.320
<v Speaker 2>down ten at the one yard line, okay, because they

0:27:07.320 --> 0:27:10.760
<v Speaker 2>had scored seven points, because the quarterback wasn't effective enough

0:27:10.800 --> 0:27:12.840
<v Speaker 2>and the quarterback could turn the ball over, and on

0:27:12.880 --> 0:27:15.520
<v Speaker 2>the very next drive the quarterback drew a pick. It's

0:27:15.600 --> 0:27:19.560
<v Speaker 2>last year's game. The Chiefs in the round before fumbled

0:27:19.560 --> 0:27:22.480
<v Speaker 2>the ball at the one yard line. McCole Hardman, same

0:27:22.520 --> 0:27:25.399
<v Speaker 2>type of player, same spot on the field in the

0:27:25.480 --> 0:27:29.479
<v Speaker 2>fourth quarter, but the Chiefs survived it because the quarterback

0:27:29.480 --> 0:27:30.960
<v Speaker 2>could played great up to that point. They had a

0:27:30.960 --> 0:27:33.000
<v Speaker 2>three point lead. And then in the Super Bowl the

0:27:33.040 --> 0:27:36.280
<v Speaker 2>Chiefs fumbled, not Mahomes, the Chiefs fumbled inside the ten

0:27:36.400 --> 0:27:38.800
<v Speaker 2>yard line. I don't remember it was Pacheco or Clyde

0:27:38.800 --> 0:27:44.000
<v Speaker 2>who whoever it was running back fumbled. But the argument

0:27:45.040 --> 0:27:53.720
<v Speaker 2>that hey, look at his QBR and in a game

0:27:54.560 --> 0:27:58.639
<v Speaker 2>that the Ravens were favored, that everyone but me seemingly

0:27:58.680 --> 0:28:01.120
<v Speaker 2>thought they had the advantage, and they had the more

0:28:01.160 --> 0:28:05.320
<v Speaker 2>talented roster that they played from behind the entire time

0:28:05.840 --> 0:28:09.840
<v Speaker 2>because of Lamar's two turnovers in the beginning that that game,

0:28:09.880 --> 0:28:13.439
<v Speaker 2>he played better than a quarterback that understood exactly what

0:28:13.480 --> 0:28:17.880
<v Speaker 2>they needed to do. And in the critical moment, third

0:28:17.920 --> 0:28:22.360
<v Speaker 2>and eleven in the red zone, up only one, the

0:28:22.400 --> 0:28:27.200
<v Speaker 2>Texans have just scored throws a falling touchdown pass to

0:28:27.320 --> 0:28:30.840
<v Speaker 2>Travis Kelsey is just bananas to me. A little more

0:28:30.840 --> 0:28:36.080
<v Speaker 2>from Barnwell for me. Move on. Lamar did make two mistakes.

0:28:36.400 --> 0:28:38.880
<v Speaker 2>That's different than the player who was during the regular season.

0:28:38.960 --> 0:28:44.560
<v Speaker 2>Can't argue that. Yeah, the question is because both Ben

0:28:44.640 --> 0:28:49.200
<v Speaker 2>and Bill eventually conceded the point. Next year, you're gonna

0:28:49.200 --> 0:28:50.880
<v Speaker 2>make are you going to be like? But it'll be

0:28:50.920 --> 0:28:56.400
<v Speaker 2>different this year. And then he talks about Mahomes and

0:28:57.200 --> 0:29:01.800
<v Speaker 2>that's fine, and are in the second half. And then

0:29:01.840 --> 0:29:03.880
<v Speaker 2>if he says, if the goals to make the fuse mistakes,

0:29:03.920 --> 0:29:05.720
<v Speaker 2>moms is better. If the goals should do the most

0:29:05.760 --> 0:29:08.640
<v Speaker 2>on offense help your team win even given the mistakes,

0:29:08.760 --> 0:29:11.640
<v Speaker 2>Lamar was better this weekend. I so there's just a

0:29:11.680 --> 0:29:16.000
<v Speaker 2>fundamental disagreement between me and a friend. I the the

0:29:17.400 --> 0:29:24.360
<v Speaker 2>you you can't separate the mistakes from the then second

0:29:24.400 --> 0:29:28.400
<v Speaker 2>half production, you just can't. And then will wrap up

0:29:28.440 --> 0:29:30.960
<v Speaker 2>the bill stuff be where we get to Rui's and

0:29:31.480 --> 0:29:34.480
<v Speaker 2>dan uh So, I said, let's take Patrick out of this.

0:29:34.520 --> 0:29:37.120
<v Speaker 2>Who was better Lamar or Josh in that game? And

0:29:37.160 --> 0:29:40.400
<v Speaker 2>he said he thought Lamar considerably. And then he said,

0:29:41.120 --> 0:29:44.560
<v Speaker 2>in last year's Super Bowl, did Purty zero iront zero fumbles,

0:29:44.600 --> 0:29:48.880
<v Speaker 2>one sack play better than Mahomes interception, fumble on a

0:29:48.920 --> 0:29:51.600
<v Speaker 2>bobbled snap, three sacks because he made fewer mistakes? Of

0:29:51.600 --> 0:29:54.320
<v Speaker 2>course not. So this is again, I just think intellectual

0:29:54.320 --> 0:29:58.080
<v Speaker 2>dishonesty from smart people. First of all, the fumble on

0:29:58.120 --> 0:30:01.640
<v Speaker 2>a bobbled snap, Yes, there was a bobble snap that

0:30:02.240 --> 0:30:05.600
<v Speaker 2>the Chiefs fumbled, that Mahomes fumbled, that he then picked up.

0:30:06.160 --> 0:30:10.840
<v Speaker 2>Like that's not that's totally You're gonna include it as

0:30:10.840 --> 0:30:15.200
<v Speaker 2>if that is anything like Lamar setting the ball on

0:30:15.240 --> 0:30:18.040
<v Speaker 2>the ground and von Miller picking it up and running

0:30:18.040 --> 0:30:25.440
<v Speaker 2>fifty yards. But you are, you're conflating things here, because

0:30:25.480 --> 0:30:29.520
<v Speaker 2>what you have is a player who avoided the critical

0:30:29.560 --> 0:30:35.040
<v Speaker 2>mistake in Purty but did not make the plays necessary

0:30:35.080 --> 0:30:38.520
<v Speaker 2>to win, and then a player who made one big

0:30:38.600 --> 0:30:42.440
<v Speaker 2>mistake in Mahomes and then made all of the necessary

0:30:42.520 --> 0:30:46.280
<v Speaker 2>plays to win. And you're somehow saying Lamar is like Mahomes,

0:30:46.600 --> 0:30:51.240
<v Speaker 2>when Lamar had two or three critical mistakes and then

0:30:51.360 --> 0:30:53.680
<v Speaker 2>did not make the necessary place to win. Now you

0:30:53.680 --> 0:30:56.480
<v Speaker 2>could say made the play to Mark Andrews. And that's where,

0:30:56.520 --> 0:30:59.000
<v Speaker 2>again I remind you, that was not a two point

0:30:59.040 --> 0:31:02.360
<v Speaker 2>conversion down one with one second left. That was a

0:31:02.400 --> 0:31:05.080
<v Speaker 2>two point conversion down two with a minute and a

0:31:05.120 --> 0:31:10.640
<v Speaker 2>half left. So I don't I don't know, I don't

0:31:10.640 --> 0:31:15.360
<v Speaker 2>know what to what to do. And then just quickly

0:31:15.440 --> 0:31:20.480
<v Speaker 2>the Stephen Ruiz thing, and then dan Orlovsky, so Stephen

0:31:20.560 --> 0:31:28.080
<v Speaker 2>Ruiz was said, for the record, I defended Mahome. Mahomes

0:31:28.080 --> 0:31:31.800
<v Speaker 2>after that game, meaning the super Bowl, and after the

0:31:31.840 --> 0:31:34.960
<v Speaker 2>Bengals game, you guys are essentially doing the same thing

0:31:35.480 --> 0:31:38.360
<v Speaker 2>you'd be frustrated with if it happened to Mahomes. And

0:31:38.400 --> 0:31:41.720
<v Speaker 2>this is again, and I hate to use such harsh language,

0:31:41.880 --> 0:31:48.800
<v Speaker 2>but this is intellectual dishonesty to me, because, as I explained,

0:31:50.160 --> 0:31:54.360
<v Speaker 2>if Mahomes going into that Tampa Super Bowl wasn't on

0:31:54.440 --> 0:32:00.080
<v Speaker 2>a five straight awesome playoff game winning streak and a

0:32:00.200 --> 0:32:04.640
<v Speaker 2>Super Bowl champion already, he probably would have caught more heat.

0:32:05.920 --> 0:32:10.160
<v Speaker 2>And so then I brought up what I thought was

0:32:10.760 --> 0:32:16.760
<v Speaker 2>a perfect analogy, and we can show it the uh

0:32:16.800 --> 0:32:18.840
<v Speaker 2>you know, Okay, we don't have the whole thing, which is,

0:32:20.160 --> 0:32:26.240
<v Speaker 2>would you treat the Times Steph Curry has come up

0:32:26.320 --> 0:32:29.600
<v Speaker 2>short in the postseason remotely the same as how you

0:32:29.640 --> 0:32:33.400
<v Speaker 2>would treat the Times James Harden has. I don't, even

0:32:33.400 --> 0:32:37.520
<v Speaker 2>though they have very similar regular season resumes. And Steven Ruiz,

0:32:38.080 --> 0:32:41.320
<v Speaker 2>who I think is awesome, right, come on, man, they're

0:32:41.360 --> 0:32:44.800
<v Speaker 2>both in their mid thirties. Bro, that's not what we're

0:32:44.840 --> 0:32:51.760
<v Speaker 2>talking about. We're talking in twenty eighteen. In twoenty eighteen,

0:32:52.080 --> 0:32:55.959
<v Speaker 2>when they were both in their Primes. If Steph Curry

0:32:56.000 --> 0:32:59.840
<v Speaker 2>had a rough game in the postseason and James Harden,

0:33:00.160 --> 0:33:02.960
<v Speaker 2>the league MVP, at a rough game in the postseason,

0:33:03.360 --> 0:33:08.600
<v Speaker 2>do we treat it the same? Of course not, because

0:33:08.680 --> 0:33:13.120
<v Speaker 2>everybody knows and everybody acts the same about all of

0:33:13.160 --> 0:33:15.840
<v Speaker 2>this stuff, except for when it comes to this quarterback.

0:33:16.920 --> 0:33:23.600
<v Speaker 2>And I will give Mike Silver credit because he actually

0:33:24.480 --> 0:33:28.000
<v Speaker 2>said he was honest about where a lot of this

0:33:28.080 --> 0:33:33.760
<v Speaker 2>comes from. I'm gonna read Mike Silver directly. If I

0:33:33.840 --> 0:33:38.720
<v Speaker 2>seem a little triggered by the Jackson bashing, I have

0:33:38.880 --> 0:33:43.480
<v Speaker 2>my reasons. Critics have tried to marginalize him from the jump,

0:33:46.080 --> 0:33:50.640
<v Speaker 2>even before he was in the league. Remember in February

0:33:50.680 --> 0:33:54.600
<v Speaker 2>of twenty eighteen, two months before the Ravens drafted the

0:33:54.640 --> 0:33:57.320
<v Speaker 2>former Louisville start with the last pick of the first round,

0:33:57.640 --> 0:34:01.080
<v Speaker 2>when Hall of Fame general manager Bill Polian proclaimed on

0:34:01.320 --> 0:34:06.360
<v Speaker 2>ESPN that Jackson should switch to wide receiver. Poleon called

0:34:06.360 --> 0:34:09.720
<v Speaker 2>the Heisman Trophy winner quote short and a little bit slight.

0:34:10.440 --> 0:34:13.600
<v Speaker 2>Clearly clearly not the thrower the other guys are. The

0:34:13.719 --> 0:34:18.480
<v Speaker 2>accuracy isn't there. So here's why I bring that up.

0:34:20.880 --> 0:34:23.200
<v Speaker 2>And I've said this before and I will say it again,

0:34:27.000 --> 0:34:33.919
<v Speaker 2>the initial Lamar Jackson discourse was toxic and not by

0:34:33.960 --> 0:34:42.200
<v Speaker 2>Poleon necessarily, but by others oftentimes felt racist. That is undeniable.

0:34:44.400 --> 0:34:49.960
<v Speaker 2>Because of that, there have been, in my opinion, a

0:34:50.040 --> 0:34:59.319
<v Speaker 2>lot of well meaning people who have felt like we

0:34:59.440 --> 0:35:05.200
<v Speaker 2>can't and shouldn't criticize him, and it's patronizing to the player.

0:35:06.280 --> 0:35:09.480
<v Speaker 2>And that is why. And it all is fruit of

0:35:09.520 --> 0:35:16.160
<v Speaker 2>that Bill Poleian poisonous tree from February of twenty eighteen,

0:35:16.920 --> 0:35:22.920
<v Speaker 2>because everyone during the when Lamar was taken the league

0:35:22.920 --> 0:35:32.239
<v Speaker 2>by storm crushed Pollion for what was incorrect analysis. But

0:35:32.640 --> 0:35:37.640
<v Speaker 2>then when you read the quote that Mike Silver puts

0:35:37.640 --> 0:35:42.920
<v Speaker 2>in there, what you will see is Lamar's biggest defenders

0:35:44.560 --> 0:35:49.040
<v Speaker 2>echoing a piece of it short and a little bit slight.

0:35:50.280 --> 0:35:52.680
<v Speaker 2>And my buddy Ben Solex like well, early in his career,

0:35:52.760 --> 0:35:56.000
<v Speaker 2>they had to figure out his weight, clearly not the

0:35:56.000 --> 0:35:58.680
<v Speaker 2>thrower of the football. Other guys, are you know what

0:35:59.040 --> 0:36:02.239
<v Speaker 2>yesterday's commentary was, Why didn't they give the ball to

0:36:02.600 --> 0:36:06.720
<v Speaker 2>Derek Henry Moore? Why weren't there more Lamar Jackson designed runs?

0:36:08.280 --> 0:36:12.240
<v Speaker 2>And nobody wants to be lumped in with the folks

0:36:12.480 --> 0:36:15.480
<v Speaker 2>that were like, yeah, Bill Pollyan's right, the guys should

0:36:15.560 --> 0:36:19.360
<v Speaker 2>change positions because those people were idiots, they were wrong,

0:36:19.800 --> 0:36:25.000
<v Speaker 2>and oftentimes they felt racist. And so because of all

0:36:25.080 --> 0:36:30.840
<v Speaker 2>of that, there is now folks twisting themselves in knots

0:36:31.280 --> 0:36:36.239
<v Speaker 2>rather than simply saying guys. Reminds me a lot of

0:36:36.280 --> 0:36:41.480
<v Speaker 2>Peyton Manning. Not a single quarterback i'd rather have, maybe

0:36:41.520 --> 0:36:43.960
<v Speaker 2>in the history of the league in the regular season,

0:36:45.440 --> 0:36:49.200
<v Speaker 2>but in the biggest spots you're kind of holding your breath.

0:36:50.080 --> 0:36:56.040
<v Speaker 2>That's all it is, that's all it's ever been. And

0:36:56.200 --> 0:37:01.600
<v Speaker 2>he did have an opportunity Demons for a Peyton Manning moment.

0:37:02.160 --> 0:37:06.040
<v Speaker 2>Yesterday Peyton or Sunday, Peyton Manning was down twenty one

0:37:06.080 --> 0:37:10.440
<v Speaker 2>to three in the AFC Championship Game and didn't play

0:37:10.440 --> 0:37:13.279
<v Speaker 2>great in the beginning of that game, and he didn't

0:37:13.320 --> 0:37:16.319
<v Speaker 2>almost come back. He came all the way back and

0:37:16.400 --> 0:37:18.600
<v Speaker 2>they got the Super Bowl, and then the Super Bowl,

0:37:18.640 --> 0:37:21.080
<v Speaker 2>he didn't play great again, Director Roswim, they won anyway.

0:37:21.719 --> 0:37:25.600
<v Speaker 2>One day, Lamarro will have it. I would bet, But

0:37:27.719 --> 0:37:33.680
<v Speaker 2>I just I don't I resent people. I shouldn't say

0:37:33.680 --> 0:37:40.640
<v Speaker 2>resent people. I resent the idea that somehow this level

0:37:40.640 --> 0:37:42.959
<v Speaker 2>of analysis that I've done for the last half hour

0:37:43.600 --> 0:37:50.280
<v Speaker 2>is lowbrow. That all that's morning talk show stuff. When guys,

0:37:51.600 --> 0:37:56.239
<v Speaker 2>if you're explaining to me that actually, by success rate

0:37:56.440 --> 0:38:01.880
<v Speaker 2>or EPA per play or QBR, Lamar was great on Sunday,

0:38:02.280 --> 0:38:05.160
<v Speaker 2>I say this with no reservation. You are the one

0:38:05.160 --> 0:38:10.319
<v Speaker 2>that doesn't understand football. If you thought Lamar played a

0:38:10.560 --> 0:38:14.360
<v Speaker 2>great game on Sunday, you don't understand how football works.

0:38:15.040 --> 0:38:19.920
<v Speaker 2>And no fancy advanced metric is gonna teach you. Now,

0:38:20.440 --> 0:38:23.680
<v Speaker 2>if you went on TV and said Lamar and I

0:38:23.719 --> 0:38:25.640
<v Speaker 2>don't even want to say this because someone will just

0:38:25.680 --> 0:38:28.680
<v Speaker 2>clip it fully out of context, so I'm gonna cover

0:38:28.760 --> 0:38:30.640
<v Speaker 2>my face when I do it. Uh. If you went

0:38:30.680 --> 0:38:33.719
<v Speaker 2>on TV and said Lamar is a playoff choker you'll

0:38:33.760 --> 0:38:37.400
<v Speaker 2>never win. The guy stinks you're an idiot too, But

0:38:37.440 --> 0:38:41.839
<v Speaker 2>nobody said that. That's a straw man that doesn't exist.

0:38:44.440 --> 0:38:46.680
<v Speaker 2>And if you if you have a job on those

0:38:46.760 --> 0:38:52.359
<v Speaker 2>morning talk shows or afternoon talk shows and your take

0:38:52.560 --> 0:38:59.600
<v Speaker 2>is it's nobody's fault they lost and any criticism makes

0:38:59.640 --> 0:39:05.000
<v Speaker 2>you a loser, as Danie Rolofski's take was, then amen,

0:39:06.160 --> 0:39:08.600
<v Speaker 2>I hope you get that offensive for their job you've

0:39:08.640 --> 0:39:11.480
<v Speaker 2>been gunning for. Wow, something just broke. I don't even

0:39:11.520 --> 0:39:12.920
<v Speaker 2>know what just happened? Is everything?

0:39:12.960 --> 0:39:13.160
<v Speaker 3>Okay?

0:39:13.280 --> 0:39:19.560
<v Speaker 2>Was there an earthquake? There? My goodness? Okay, you're all

0:39:19.640 --> 0:39:23.600
<v Speaker 2>right though, all right, well, let me let me bring

0:39:23.680 --> 0:39:28.200
<v Speaker 2>this back because this might maybe that was the sports

0:39:28.239 --> 0:39:31.760
<v Speaker 2>media on Budsman God saying Nick save this for Thursday

0:39:31.760 --> 0:39:34.000
<v Speaker 2>on the show, but I won't, So I'll do it

0:39:34.040 --> 0:39:39.160
<v Speaker 2>again here. If put the worl Offski tweet back up.

0:39:39.920 --> 0:39:45.040
<v Speaker 2>If your take is you can't put the loss on anyone,

0:39:45.880 --> 0:39:52.920
<v Speaker 2>and if you do, you're a loser, then amen, then

0:39:53.480 --> 0:39:59.399
<v Speaker 2>maybe coaching is what you're meant to do. Because as

0:39:59.560 --> 0:40:02.920
<v Speaker 2>uncommfortable as it may be, and if you check your

0:40:02.960 --> 0:40:09.040
<v Speaker 2>Twitter mentions, as angry as folks may get, our job

0:40:09.360 --> 0:40:12.560
<v Speaker 2>is not it's not purely to criticize. But it's not

0:40:12.840 --> 0:40:19.120
<v Speaker 2>purely to explain how great and awesome and wonderful everyone

0:40:19.239 --> 0:40:22.600
<v Speaker 2>played and how man, none of it was their fault.

0:40:23.320 --> 0:40:25.920
<v Speaker 2>And I'll read the Verlovsky tweet in full for the

0:40:26.000 --> 0:40:32.160
<v Speaker 2>audio audience, because man, he has so much courage when

0:40:32.200 --> 0:40:35.440
<v Speaker 2>it comes to taking shots at other people in his

0:40:35.600 --> 0:40:42.640
<v Speaker 2>current profession, because he is so unable to have even

0:40:42.680 --> 0:40:46.719
<v Speaker 2>a modicum of criticism for folks in his previous profession.

0:40:47.800 --> 0:40:51.600
<v Speaker 2>But quote. If you put the loss on Lamar tonight, respectfully,

0:40:51.960 --> 0:40:55.680
<v Speaker 2>you're a loser. Mark Andrews, one of the all time

0:40:55.760 --> 0:40:58.719
<v Speaker 2>Ravens had a brutal drop of a fumble. Yes, if

0:40:58.760 --> 0:41:03.280
<v Speaker 2>you're gonna use that to crash him, respectfully, you're a loser.

0:41:06.800 --> 0:41:07.560
<v Speaker 3>Man.

0:41:08.040 --> 0:41:16.440
<v Speaker 2>Again, I think I've shown I'm pretty like no sacred

0:41:16.520 --> 0:41:19.759
<v Speaker 2>cows to me. I ran there. I'd spend twenty minutes

0:41:19.840 --> 0:41:22.239
<v Speaker 2>running through tweets of friends of mine because I think

0:41:22.280 --> 0:41:26.719
<v Speaker 2>they're out of their mind. I obviously will criticize athletes.

0:41:26.800 --> 0:41:29.960
<v Speaker 2>I also try when I think something's awesome or someone's

0:41:29.960 --> 0:41:33.480
<v Speaker 2>been awesome, to praise it. The TV show I do

0:41:33.880 --> 0:41:36.320
<v Speaker 2>is as much of a celebration of sports as anything

0:41:36.360 --> 0:41:39.239
<v Speaker 2>on TV. We'll have more fun than anybody, But I

0:41:39.320 --> 0:41:46.000
<v Speaker 2>understand what the job is. I I find it really

0:41:49.800 --> 0:41:57.480
<v Speaker 2>I want to use the right word here telling that

0:41:57.520 --> 0:42:04.000
<v Speaker 2>Orolovsky has all the smoke in the world for folks

0:42:04.040 --> 0:42:10.040
<v Speaker 2>who do his current job in a way he thinks

0:42:10.080 --> 0:42:15.400
<v Speaker 2>his subpar, but literally set on TV to Shannon Sharp

0:42:16.160 --> 0:42:20.000
<v Speaker 2>a couple months ago that it's not his job to

0:42:20.160 --> 0:42:24.799
<v Speaker 2>criticize folks who do his previous job NFL quarterback if

0:42:24.800 --> 0:42:27.560
<v Speaker 2>they do it subpar. Not his job. That's not my job.

0:42:27.800 --> 0:42:32.080
<v Speaker 2>I'm not here for that. Okay, man, the kids would say,

0:42:32.160 --> 0:42:35.919
<v Speaker 2>keep that same energy, but listen, when you're doing a job,

0:42:36.000 --> 0:42:39.640
<v Speaker 2>because you're trying to get the coaching job, it's gonna be.

0:42:39.680 --> 0:42:43.520
<v Speaker 2>It's everyone's great, everyone's always great, no one's at fault.

0:42:43.719 --> 0:42:46.200
<v Speaker 2>And in fact, anyone that criticizes anyone, they're a loser.

0:42:46.320 --> 0:42:50.680
<v Speaker 2>Got it, no problem? Uh, all right, I think we've

0:42:50.719 --> 0:42:53.640
<v Speaker 2>got that pretty well covered. We'll talk Josh Allen on Thursday.

0:42:53.719 --> 0:42:59.040
<v Speaker 2>Let's do the Chiefs. What demonse you want to say?

0:42:59.040 --> 0:43:04.680
<v Speaker 2>You you can whatever you want. Wet no, no, no, no, So.

0:43:06.400 --> 0:43:09.359
<v Speaker 4>The Chief the Chief season obviously starts now after they

0:43:09.400 --> 0:43:10.640
<v Speaker 4>just took care of Houston.

0:43:11.480 --> 0:43:14.840
<v Speaker 3>Uh. Who do you think Buffalo should be more concerned about?

0:43:15.280 --> 0:43:18.360
<v Speaker 4>Between Patrick Mahomes, maybe some of his teammates or his

0:43:18.520 --> 0:43:22.800
<v Speaker 4>extended teammates, the referees, Dude, what do you think they should?

0:43:23.360 --> 0:43:29.399
<v Speaker 2>Let's talk about the refs. And you guys have heard

0:43:29.440 --> 0:43:31.200
<v Speaker 2>me say I think I said on this last show

0:43:32.000 --> 0:43:37.080
<v Speaker 2>that I think Buck and Aikman are made men. Unbelievable

0:43:38.320 --> 0:43:46.440
<v Speaker 2>love their broadcasts. Aikman has been very consistent in that

0:43:46.560 --> 0:43:50.040
<v Speaker 2>how much he hates the new rules about protecting quarterbacks.

0:43:50.560 --> 0:43:53.680
<v Speaker 2>So I don't buy that he like has a vendetta

0:43:53.719 --> 0:43:57.279
<v Speaker 2>against Mahomes. I don't I don't buy that. I don't

0:43:57.320 --> 0:44:02.160
<v Speaker 2>think that he really doesn't like the new rules. I

0:44:02.360 --> 0:44:11.040
<v Speaker 2>thought they missed the mark a bit in their slavish

0:44:11.120 --> 0:44:14.640
<v Speaker 2>focus on the roughing the passer calls. And we don't

0:44:14.680 --> 0:44:18.400
<v Speaker 2>have video rights, you know, NFL highlight rights for the podcast,

0:44:18.719 --> 0:44:23.120
<v Speaker 2>but we'll go through them. The first one, if you

0:44:24.440 --> 0:44:28.240
<v Speaker 2>go back and watch the game in real time TV

0:44:28.480 --> 0:44:32.600
<v Speaker 2>copy and just watch Mahomes. Don't watch when he throws

0:44:32.600 --> 0:44:36.680
<v Speaker 2>the ball, Just watch Mahomes. That looks like as obvious

0:44:36.800 --> 0:44:39.640
<v Speaker 2>of a roughing the passer call as you'll see in

0:44:39.680 --> 0:44:43.960
<v Speaker 2>the league all year. It is a high hit to

0:44:44.040 --> 0:44:46.880
<v Speaker 2>the head, his head snaps back. The ref who standing

0:44:46.880 --> 0:44:50.120
<v Speaker 2>behind it, throws the flag. The first replay we see,

0:44:50.560 --> 0:44:53.839
<v Speaker 2>which is from the refs angle, it looks like an

0:44:53.960 --> 0:44:58.680
<v Speaker 2>obvious roughing the passer call. The third replay we see,

0:44:58.760 --> 0:45:01.560
<v Speaker 2>when it's from the side, you see that most of

0:45:01.560 --> 0:45:05.600
<v Speaker 2>the contact did come to the chest and there was

0:45:05.640 --> 0:45:09.799
<v Speaker 2>like grazing contact to Mahomes' face mask. Okay, now you

0:45:09.880 --> 0:45:14.600
<v Speaker 2>can say Mahomes sold it. I suppose it's also Will Anderson,

0:45:14.640 --> 0:45:17.560
<v Speaker 2>one of the fastest, best defensive players in football, hitting

0:45:17.600 --> 0:45:21.800
<v Speaker 2>him full speed. My and that was a huge penalty.

0:45:21.840 --> 0:45:24.759
<v Speaker 2>I'm not gonna act like it wasn't because that was

0:45:24.880 --> 0:45:26.799
<v Speaker 2>third down. The Chiefs kept the ball, they end up

0:45:26.800 --> 0:45:31.120
<v Speaker 2>getting three points. What I am And this is where

0:45:31.160 --> 0:45:34.799
<v Speaker 2>I think folks are intellectually dishonest. And I keep using

0:45:34.800 --> 0:45:41.239
<v Speaker 2>that term. That call gets made in every game all

0:45:41.360 --> 0:45:46.040
<v Speaker 2>year long. That's not a Chief's only thing. Every time

0:45:46.480 --> 0:45:50.560
<v Speaker 2>the quarterback gets whacked and his head flings back and

0:45:50.560 --> 0:45:53.800
<v Speaker 2>the hits high, that's a flag. And what I felt

0:45:53.840 --> 0:45:59.080
<v Speaker 2>the broadcast missed was that play was reviewed and upheld

0:45:59.120 --> 0:46:02.160
<v Speaker 2>by New York. They saw it and they were like, yes,

0:46:02.480 --> 0:46:05.279
<v Speaker 2>that's a penalty, or at the very least what they

0:46:05.320 --> 0:46:09.640
<v Speaker 2>said is we can't overturn it because there was some

0:46:09.760 --> 0:46:12.959
<v Speaker 2>contact to the helmet. So the first one, which did

0:46:13.000 --> 0:46:15.680
<v Speaker 2>help the Chiefs pook points on the board, is a

0:46:15.760 --> 0:46:21.680
<v Speaker 2>regular call, a regular, typical call. The second one, I

0:46:21.800 --> 0:46:25.600
<v Speaker 2>understand people being annoyed by for two reasons. One is

0:46:26.160 --> 0:46:29.200
<v Speaker 2>Mahomes baited them into it, and the other one was

0:46:30.080 --> 0:46:33.880
<v Speaker 2>they hit each other, not him. That was a bad call.

0:46:34.160 --> 0:46:36.440
<v Speaker 2>There is no denying that was a bad call. My

0:46:36.640 --> 0:46:41.520
<v Speaker 2>frustration with the focus on that is if they didn't

0:46:41.560 --> 0:46:45.880
<v Speaker 2>flag that it was going to be second and six.

0:46:47.200 --> 0:46:49.840
<v Speaker 2>That's the part of it that I don't follow. The

0:46:50.080 --> 0:46:54.840
<v Speaker 2>outrage on was that wasn't on third down, That wasn't

0:46:54.880 --> 0:46:58.000
<v Speaker 2>on It wasn't gonna be second or third. It wasn't

0:46:58.040 --> 0:47:01.399
<v Speaker 2>on second and twenty five. It was first and ten.

0:47:03.200 --> 0:47:07.439
<v Speaker 2>He ran for four yards, So that was a bad call.

0:47:08.440 --> 0:47:12.200
<v Speaker 2>That also I think had minimal impact on the game.

0:47:12.320 --> 0:47:13.640
<v Speaker 3>Go ahead six.

0:47:13.719 --> 0:47:16.200
<v Speaker 4>Then you know, like that's that's probably that outrage is

0:47:16.239 --> 0:47:18.440
<v Speaker 4>just like we want to see let them make the

0:47:18.480 --> 0:47:20.919
<v Speaker 4>play as opposed to the refs just teleporting them there.

0:47:20.960 --> 0:47:23.399
<v Speaker 3>You know, it's like we got it. Oh it could

0:47:23.400 --> 0:47:24.160
<v Speaker 3>have sounded something.

0:47:25.400 --> 0:47:31.240
<v Speaker 2>No, no, no, I I totally understand that, my I think,

0:47:31.320 --> 0:47:35.120
<v Speaker 2>And if we want to make roughing the passer calls reviewable,

0:47:35.280 --> 0:47:39.680
<v Speaker 2>I'm all for it also, I I And then the

0:47:39.880 --> 0:47:47.040
<v Speaker 2>the the thing people, what's to me most delusional about

0:47:47.200 --> 0:47:53.160
<v Speaker 2>the discourses the image everyone is using as anger about

0:47:53.200 --> 0:47:57.000
<v Speaker 2>the Chiefs and the refs is for Mahomes' flop on

0:47:57.040 --> 0:48:02.319
<v Speaker 2>the sideline. Yeah, but there was no flag there, Like.

0:48:02.360 --> 0:48:06.160
<v Speaker 3>There is you know where that comes from. But it's

0:48:06.160 --> 0:48:06.919
<v Speaker 3>like hand in hand.

0:48:07.239 --> 0:48:09.319
<v Speaker 4>He gets all these calls and then you see him

0:48:09.320 --> 0:48:13.080
<v Speaker 4>flop on the sideline trying the exactly.

0:48:13.160 --> 0:48:15.759
<v Speaker 3>It's like, come on, man, so.

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<v Speaker 2>No I I so I understand that. And so if

0:48:21.000 --> 0:48:25.040
<v Speaker 2>we want to, you know, revisit a lot of and

0:48:25.080 --> 0:48:27.440
<v Speaker 2>by the way, the running around the one that he

0:48:27.520 --> 0:48:30.640
<v Speaker 2>got that would have been second and six, that's dangerous

0:48:30.640 --> 0:48:33.000
<v Speaker 2>for him. I don't want him doing.

0:48:32.840 --> 0:48:33.879
<v Speaker 3>The rule for that, right.

0:48:33.960 --> 0:48:36.680
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, It's like they try to squeeze out every yard

0:48:36.719 --> 0:48:39.279
<v Speaker 4>they can and then they put the defender out of disappage.

0:48:40.040 --> 0:48:44.000
<v Speaker 2>I think that right. I think that there is a

0:48:44.040 --> 0:48:47.319
<v Speaker 2>real argument to be made that for and there's gonna

0:48:47.320 --> 0:48:52.680
<v Speaker 2>have the judgment stuff four quarterbacks, if you do not

0:48:53.480 --> 0:48:57.640
<v Speaker 2>basically instantly slide, if you you can run as far

0:48:57.640 --> 0:49:00.239
<v Speaker 2>as you can run, but slide at the you know,

0:49:00.320 --> 0:49:03.080
<v Speaker 2>as soon as someone's within X amount of yards of you,

0:49:03.760 --> 0:49:07.319
<v Speaker 2>then you're not protected anymore. Then now you're running back.

0:49:07.400 --> 0:49:11.360
<v Speaker 2>I think I'm fine with that rule. I'm also fine

0:49:11.400 --> 0:49:18.480
<v Speaker 2>with guys it's a penalty to flop on the sideline

0:49:19.360 --> 0:49:21.640
<v Speaker 2>or in a scrum because you don't see it so

0:49:21.719 --> 0:49:25.319
<v Speaker 2>much with quarterbacks, but the offensive line defensive linemen who

0:49:25.400 --> 0:49:28.200
<v Speaker 2>jawed each other having in Bill's Ravens, and some bushroom

0:49:28.320 --> 0:49:30.640
<v Speaker 2>was like, oh, I got shot. I'm fine with that

0:49:30.719 --> 0:49:34.040
<v Speaker 2>being a penalty. I'm good with all of it. But

0:49:34.680 --> 0:49:41.600
<v Speaker 2>what is so What was to me like triple annoying

0:49:41.640 --> 0:49:45.279
<v Speaker 2>about the discourse was the first penalty, which did lead

0:49:45.320 --> 0:49:49.320
<v Speaker 2>to points, is a penalty all the time in the NFL,

0:49:49.680 --> 0:49:51.920
<v Speaker 2>and they reviewed it and said, yes, it's a penalty.

0:49:52.239 --> 0:49:58.240
<v Speaker 2>The second one, I think had minimal impact on the game, minimal.

0:49:59.640 --> 0:50:03.279
<v Speaker 2>And then the other two parts of the discourse that

0:50:03.440 --> 0:50:09.360
<v Speaker 2>killed me was if we are listing reasons the Texans

0:50:09.440 --> 0:50:13.640
<v Speaker 2>lost and we're being honest, how many do we have

0:50:13.680 --> 0:50:17.040
<v Speaker 2>to list before we get to the refs. First reason

0:50:17.160 --> 0:50:23.080
<v Speaker 2>is that Travis Kelcey destroyed them, right, That's the first reason.

0:50:23.840 --> 0:50:29.480
<v Speaker 2>The second reason is they had a special team's abomination

0:50:30.239 --> 0:50:34.520
<v Speaker 2>literally from the opening kickoff. The third reason is, and

0:50:34.560 --> 0:50:38.600
<v Speaker 2>this is a pretty big one, you scored one touchdown

0:50:39.239 --> 0:50:43.600
<v Speaker 2>on the road at Arrowhead against the Chiefs. Teams doing

0:50:43.640 --> 0:50:47.720
<v Speaker 2>that are let me check, oh for life, since Mahome's

0:50:47.760 --> 0:50:50.560
<v Speaker 2>been the starter, and if we want to say, and

0:50:50.719 --> 0:50:53.800
<v Speaker 2>I would argue, the fourth reason is.

0:50:53.160 --> 0:50:58.280
<v Speaker 3>The whole line the nothing the off it well.

0:50:58.160 --> 0:51:01.320
<v Speaker 2>That kind of hand in hand with the only scoring

0:51:01.360 --> 0:51:04.080
<v Speaker 2>one touchdown. I was, you know what I mean, So

0:51:04.120 --> 0:51:07.920
<v Speaker 2>those are kind of combined. Fourth reason, I thought Demiko

0:51:08.440 --> 0:51:11.719
<v Speaker 2>had a tough game management game. I thought kicking the

0:51:11.760 --> 0:51:16.719
<v Speaker 2>fifty five yard field goal in those conditions early was

0:51:17.560 --> 0:51:21.000
<v Speaker 2>just flatly the wrong decision. And I thought rushing that

0:51:21.160 --> 0:51:24.960
<v Speaker 2>fourth and ten down eight and not using a timeout

0:51:25.120 --> 0:51:29.200
<v Speaker 2>or punting was the wrong decision. And then reason number five,

0:51:29.280 --> 0:51:32.120
<v Speaker 2>I would go to the officiating. That's how I would

0:51:32.280 --> 0:51:37.520
<v Speaker 2>rank it. The other thing that frustrates me is people

0:51:37.640 --> 0:51:41.719
<v Speaker 2>not caring about the data, not supporting this idea that

0:51:41.760 --> 0:51:44.240
<v Speaker 2>the Chiefs get all the calls. On the last pod,

0:51:44.320 --> 0:51:46.719
<v Speaker 2>we did the thing about how when it comes to

0:51:46.800 --> 0:51:50.319
<v Speaker 2>roughing the passer penalties, there is one quarterback head and

0:51:50.360 --> 0:51:52.880
<v Speaker 2>shoulders that gets more than anyone. It's Josh Allen and

0:51:52.920 --> 0:51:55.799
<v Speaker 2>Mahomes is middle of the pack, and that's per game,

0:51:55.960 --> 0:52:01.479
<v Speaker 2>per pass, however you do it. But the the other

0:52:01.520 --> 0:52:11.080
<v Speaker 2>thing is, and Josh debou Has of the Associated Press

0:52:11.680 --> 0:52:15.040
<v Speaker 2>has been fighting the good fight on this, which is

0:52:16.000 --> 0:52:22.720
<v Speaker 2>there is simply no data to suggest, no matter how

0:52:22.760 --> 0:52:29.720
<v Speaker 2>you isolated, that the Chiefs get some hugely beneficial whistle.

0:52:29.880 --> 0:52:32.560
<v Speaker 2>I'm not going to go through it all, but since

0:52:32.600 --> 0:52:35.360
<v Speaker 2>Malmes has been there, they are dead last in the

0:52:35.520 --> 0:52:40.080
<v Speaker 2>NFL and penalty yardage differential. People are like, oh, well,

0:52:40.640 --> 0:52:44.120
<v Speaker 2>it's about It's not that. It's just during this dynasty run.

0:52:44.200 --> 0:52:47.080
<v Speaker 2>During the last three years, the Chiefs have been penalized

0:52:47.080 --> 0:52:48.759
<v Speaker 2>for one hundred and forty seven more yards and their

0:52:48.800 --> 0:52:52.120
<v Speaker 2>opponents in the last three seasons, that's the twelfth worst.

0:52:52.840 --> 0:52:56.720
<v Speaker 2>Vikings actually have the best at their almost one thousand

0:52:57.360 --> 0:53:01.640
<v Speaker 2>fewer than their opponents than People are like, no, we're

0:53:01.760 --> 0:53:08.080
<v Speaker 2>talking about the fourth quarter or big spots. Let me

0:53:08.120 --> 0:53:12.840
<v Speaker 2>find his tweet on that one where gosh darn it,

0:53:12.960 --> 0:53:15.719
<v Speaker 2>I had it because somebody was talking about its high

0:53:15.840 --> 0:53:23.360
<v Speaker 2>leverage situations. So let me find it real quick. I apologize.

0:53:23.600 --> 0:53:26.200
<v Speaker 2>I should have pulled this up beforehand. He tweeted a

0:53:26.239 --> 0:53:28.400
<v Speaker 2>lot more than I thought he did. Maybe it's in

0:53:28.440 --> 0:53:33.160
<v Speaker 2>his replies. Okay, here it is now do third down

0:53:33.160 --> 0:53:37.040
<v Speaker 2>in the fourth quarter ups. So somebody wrote a third

0:53:37.080 --> 0:53:38.640
<v Speaker 2>down in the first quarter up seven. It is not

0:53:38.640 --> 0:53:40.359
<v Speaker 2>the same as a third down in the fourth quarter,

0:53:40.440 --> 0:53:44.600
<v Speaker 2>down three. Josha Bob the Associated Press, Chiefs opponents have

0:53:44.640 --> 0:53:48.279
<v Speaker 2>gotten four more first downs, by penalty on third and

0:53:48.360 --> 0:53:51.120
<v Speaker 2>fourth downs in the fourth quarter, in overtime in games

0:53:51.120 --> 0:53:54.480
<v Speaker 2>decided by one score or less since Mahomes got there,

0:53:55.080 --> 0:54:01.040
<v Speaker 2>and so there's just no data to support this. Uh.

0:54:01.400 --> 0:54:07.520
<v Speaker 2>But when teams are always in the biggest games, and

0:54:07.719 --> 0:54:13.319
<v Speaker 2>when we're in an era where the best quarterbacks are

0:54:14.440 --> 0:54:19.520
<v Speaker 2>hyper protected, this is you know, It's why Chiefs fans

0:54:19.560 --> 0:54:22.359
<v Speaker 2>feel like Josh Allen gets all the calls, and it's

0:54:22.400 --> 0:54:25.160
<v Speaker 2>why the rest of America feels like the Chiefs get

0:54:25.200 --> 0:54:28.560
<v Speaker 2>all the calls. My last point on the refereeing and

0:54:28.600 --> 0:54:33.279
<v Speaker 2>the biggest frustration on it there was, And this is

0:54:33.320 --> 0:54:38.480
<v Speaker 2>where I just think everyone loses their ability to fairly reason.

0:54:39.880 --> 0:54:45.480
<v Speaker 2>There was one horrific call this weekend that you can

0:54:45.560 --> 0:54:53.120
<v Speaker 2>say directly, maybe not only directly, led to points, maybe

0:54:53.239 --> 0:54:58.120
<v Speaker 2>change the entire game. And everyone is so and it

0:54:58.200 --> 0:55:04.640
<v Speaker 2>would have been the best argument to make by anyone

0:55:04.880 --> 0:55:08.919
<v Speaker 2>during all of my Lamar Jackson ranting. But people are

0:55:09.000 --> 0:55:14.640
<v Speaker 2>so used to bad calls it didn't even occur to him.

0:55:15.239 --> 0:55:19.000
<v Speaker 2>They only stick out when it involves the Chiefs. Because

0:55:20.160 --> 0:55:25.080
<v Speaker 2>the defensive pass interference penalty to Monsey against the Ravens

0:55:25.719 --> 0:55:29.120
<v Speaker 2>at the end of the first half was the worst

0:55:29.120 --> 0:55:33.960
<v Speaker 2>call of the weekend and the most impactful. It's undeniable

0:55:34.920 --> 0:55:39.000
<v Speaker 2>that was they maybe get three because of that, they

0:55:39.080 --> 0:55:43.040
<v Speaker 2>definitely got seven. It takes a fourteen maybe seventeen to

0:55:43.080 --> 0:55:45.560
<v Speaker 2>ten game to twenty one ten set at the table

0:55:45.560 --> 0:55:47.960
<v Speaker 2>for all of it. That looked to me like offensive

0:55:47.960 --> 0:55:52.359
<v Speaker 2>pass interference or a no call. They call defensive pass interference. Right.

0:55:53.360 --> 0:55:57.239
<v Speaker 2>Also in that game, Lamar got whacked on the sideline.

0:55:57.239 --> 0:55:58.920
<v Speaker 3>On the sideline, yeah, and there was.

0:55:59.200 --> 0:56:05.839
<v Speaker 2>And there was no call and if and so now

0:56:05.880 --> 0:56:08.680
<v Speaker 2>maybe it's like, okay, the the league's in the bag

0:56:08.760 --> 0:56:11.879
<v Speaker 2>for the Chiefs and the Bills, or maybe it's that

0:56:13.200 --> 0:56:15.600
<v Speaker 2>standalone games, there's gonna be a lot of bad calls

0:56:16.360 --> 0:56:22.480
<v Speaker 2>and it just irritate like that the nobody brought up

0:56:23.320 --> 0:56:28.080
<v Speaker 2>as a defense of Lamar, the bad pass interference penalty

0:56:28.239 --> 0:56:30.959
<v Speaker 2>that actually would have been a good one, Like, hey man,

0:56:31.080 --> 0:56:33.200
<v Speaker 2>even with all those mistakes, they should have just been

0:56:33.239 --> 0:56:36.760
<v Speaker 2>down four. They sustained a terrible call went against them.

0:56:36.800 --> 0:56:39.880
<v Speaker 2>But people are so tied to this narrative that no,

0:56:40.080 --> 0:56:42.879
<v Speaker 2>the bad calls only favor one team in the league,

0:56:42.920 --> 0:56:46.640
<v Speaker 2>and it's the Chiefs that like that to me, And

0:56:47.719 --> 0:56:53.680
<v Speaker 2>I thought Buck and Aikman overdid the refereeing stuff in

0:56:53.760 --> 0:56:56.279
<v Speaker 2>the Chiefs game. They were still talking about it when

0:56:56.280 --> 0:56:59.000
<v Speaker 2>it's third and eleven and mahomes to Kelsey. The greatest

0:56:59.000 --> 0:57:01.880
<v Speaker 2>playoff combination of the history of the league combines for

0:57:01.960 --> 0:57:05.280
<v Speaker 2>what is the critical touchdown. There's still, you know, upset

0:57:05.320 --> 0:57:07.600
<v Speaker 2>about the refereeing. I thought they overdid it a bit.

0:57:08.000 --> 0:57:11.879
<v Speaker 2>I thought Nance and Romo underdid it on that DPI

0:57:12.480 --> 0:57:20.440
<v Speaker 2>that dB. Yeah, I couldn't believe it. And so that

0:57:20.640 --> 0:57:24.000
<v Speaker 2>to me was, you know, that's what I'll say about

0:57:24.000 --> 0:57:27.160
<v Speaker 2>the officiating. All right, and our long A block is

0:57:27.200 --> 0:57:32.760
<v Speaker 2>pretty good. Uh, We're gonna have a much quicker B

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<v Speaker 2>block and answer some listener questions. Quick break right back,

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<v Speaker 2>All Right, Demon's that was one of our longest ay blocks.

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<v Speaker 2>Is there anything that I felt like, you know, sometimes

0:59:13.800 --> 0:59:17.280
<v Speaker 2>you're kind of boxed out a bit, but is there

0:59:17.280 --> 0:59:20.040
<v Speaker 2>anything that you wanted to chime in on on either

0:59:20.080 --> 0:59:22.400
<v Speaker 2>of those four move on to the other games.

0:59:26.720 --> 0:59:29.520
<v Speaker 3>Or calling you crazy or whatever. I think that like

0:59:29.600 --> 0:59:30.920
<v Speaker 3>the Chiefs this year, how.

0:59:30.760 --> 0:59:33.640
<v Speaker 4>They won, and like those you call it lucky or

0:59:33.760 --> 0:59:36.160
<v Speaker 4>like the crazy fashion, just the way that the Ravens

0:59:36.160 --> 0:59:38.320
<v Speaker 4>losing the postseason, even if you want to say Lamar

0:59:38.520 --> 0:59:41.200
<v Speaker 4>tapers off a little bit, it just I think it

0:59:41.320 --> 0:59:43.600
<v Speaker 4>leaves questioning a lot of people's brains because it's just

0:59:43.640 --> 0:59:46.640
<v Speaker 4>like that one little thing. It's like unlucky. It's it's

0:59:46.720 --> 0:59:49.560
<v Speaker 4>it's as opposed to lucky, it's unlucky. It's just comes

0:59:49.560 --> 0:59:51.800
<v Speaker 4>down to these one little plays. Or I get he

0:59:51.880 --> 0:59:53.880
<v Speaker 4>turned the ball over multiple times in the game, but

0:59:53.960 --> 0:59:55.640
<v Speaker 4>it's just no, still was too.

0:59:56.040 --> 1:00:00.640
<v Speaker 2>Here's so here's the thing, and this is what's tough.

1:00:02.520 --> 1:00:08.000
<v Speaker 2>You you need to give yourself a bigger margin for error.

1:00:09.640 --> 1:00:13.160
<v Speaker 2>Like that's the answer. And so like people when people

1:00:13.160 --> 1:00:15.720
<v Speaker 2>bring up the Chiefs and these clothes, forget the regular

1:00:15.760 --> 1:00:24.280
<v Speaker 2>season playoff wins, right, they they've given it a lot

1:00:24.320 --> 1:00:30.520
<v Speaker 2>of those games have been close because the Chiefs made

1:00:30.560 --> 1:00:33.440
<v Speaker 2>a critical mistake, but they were good enough to have

1:00:33.440 --> 1:00:36.280
<v Speaker 2>the margin forrera. As I mentioned before, in the Super Bowl,

1:00:37.120 --> 1:00:41.080
<v Speaker 2>after the huge play to Travis, why did Travis or

1:00:41.320 --> 1:00:44.960
<v Speaker 2>was it to Travis? No, it wasn't to Travis. Who

1:00:45.000 --> 1:00:49.560
<v Speaker 2>was it to McCole I don't even remember. Regardless, the

1:00:49.680 --> 1:00:55.640
<v Speaker 2>reason Travis shoved Andy Reid was because he wasn't on

1:00:55.800 --> 1:00:59.560
<v Speaker 2>the field on the fumble inside the ten and he

1:00:59.680 --> 1:01:02.200
<v Speaker 2>felt like he would have held the block better. That's

1:01:02.240 --> 1:01:05.200
<v Speaker 2>what happened. The point I'm bringing up is in the

1:01:05.240 --> 1:01:08.640
<v Speaker 2>Super Bowl, yes it was super thin margins. The Chiefs

1:01:08.800 --> 1:01:12.040
<v Speaker 2>needed a drive to force overtime and then won in overtime,

1:01:14.240 --> 1:01:18.640
<v Speaker 2>but they had already had their terrible luck, you know,

1:01:18.720 --> 1:01:22.760
<v Speaker 2>with the fumble inside the ten in the previous in

1:01:22.840 --> 1:01:26.960
<v Speaker 2>the second round against the Bills, they run a stupid

1:01:27.000 --> 1:01:31.040
<v Speaker 2>play and McCall fumble's reach them for the pylon at

1:01:31.080 --> 1:01:34.280
<v Speaker 2>the one yard line. They had a big enough, they

1:01:34.320 --> 1:01:36.720
<v Speaker 2>already had a lead there, like you've got to build in.

1:01:37.360 --> 1:01:41.520
<v Speaker 2>It's gonna be hard to play a perfect game, and

1:01:41.600 --> 1:01:44.360
<v Speaker 2>so now some of it is just unlucky bouncers or

1:01:44.400 --> 1:01:48.680
<v Speaker 2>lucky bounces the opening kickoff of Chiefs Texans great kick

1:01:48.720 --> 1:01:52.560
<v Speaker 2>return guy fumble, We've you know, samajp Ryan fell on it.

1:01:52.640 --> 1:01:56.600
<v Speaker 2>Like that's good, that's good fortune. So yeah, some of

1:01:56.600 --> 1:01:59.320
<v Speaker 2>this stuff isn't exactly fair. All right, next, let's get

1:01:59.320 --> 1:02:01.240
<v Speaker 2>to the let's get to the other games.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, so Sirianni tried to give you the game. Jalen

1:02:04.800 --> 1:02:06.880
<v Speaker 4>Hurts also try to give you the game. He wasn't throwing.

1:02:06.960 --> 1:02:07.200
<v Speaker 3>Well.

1:02:07.360 --> 1:02:11.760
<v Speaker 4>They basically just spammed Saquon so Philly, you know, one

1:02:11.800 --> 1:02:15.040
<v Speaker 4>in dominating fashion, but still didn't look really good. Do

1:02:15.080 --> 1:02:16.840
<v Speaker 4>you think the right team won this game?

1:02:18.160 --> 1:02:20.520
<v Speaker 2>I do think the right team won. I listen, the

1:02:20.600 --> 1:02:23.480
<v Speaker 2>Rams could have stolen it, and I think Sirianni may

1:02:23.520 --> 1:02:27.240
<v Speaker 2>have been fired. I know that sounds insane, but if

1:02:27.240 --> 1:02:29.240
<v Speaker 2>they blew a thirteen point lead to go to the

1:02:29.320 --> 1:02:34.400
<v Speaker 2>NFC Championship game with four minutes left, and it was

1:02:34.440 --> 1:02:40.480
<v Speaker 2>because Okay, Jalen Hurts was not having a hor horrible game,

1:02:40.520 --> 1:02:43.640
<v Speaker 2>but he wasn't having a great game. The AJ Brown

1:02:43.720 --> 1:02:46.040
<v Speaker 2>drop hurt him. Another AJ Brown drop hurt him. Like

1:02:46.040 --> 1:02:49.680
<v Speaker 2>I'm not gonna kill Jalen Hurts. But then he got injured.

1:02:50.480 --> 1:02:53.720
<v Speaker 2>And once he got injured. He could not move, and

1:02:53.840 --> 1:02:59.240
<v Speaker 2>Sirianni saw that and on his second playback on the

1:02:59.280 --> 1:03:02.560
<v Speaker 2>field after being injured, called a drop back into his

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<v Speaker 2>own end zone where he's just a sitting dock and

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<v Speaker 2>gets safety. Despite that, they recover, Saquon goes for eighty yards.

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<v Speaker 2>They're up thirteen the Rams score. Now there's three minutes left.

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<v Speaker 2>It's second and seven. Saquan's just gone for three yards

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<v Speaker 2>and he caught a play action rollout with his injured,

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<v Speaker 2>immobile quarterback who hasn't who has not completed a big

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<v Speaker 2>pass in hours, and they they end up having to

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<v Speaker 2>punt like that, That second and seven pass call, honest

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<v Speaker 2>to god's one of the worst play calls I've ever

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<v Speaker 2>seen in my life. It's one of the worst play

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<v Speaker 2>calls I've ever seen in my life. And it they

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<v Speaker 2>because of that. All of a sudden, Stafford's inside the

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<v Speaker 2>twenty down six because Elliott missed the extra point like

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<v Speaker 2>that would have been as horrifying a loss as exists.

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<v Speaker 2>And aj Brown, you got to play better. For all

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<v Speaker 2>the I'm reading the book, I like Jalen did make

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<v Speaker 2>a great Yes, you're causing all this nonsense. Saquan's out

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<v Speaker 2>there just crushing fools. We're talking about the Eagles and

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<v Speaker 2>negative light because Aj Brown keeps we need to work

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<v Speaker 2>on passing. No, I always read books on the sideline,

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<v Speaker 2>like what do you sometimes I I I I take

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<v Speaker 2>cooking classes. Stop it and so the and it is

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<v Speaker 2>so in the you know, now the authors at the game,

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<v Speaker 2>he's getting interviewed about the book with the stop it.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh and so listen. The the Eagles are able to

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<v Speaker 2>overcome an injured quarterback and a ridiculous coach, and you

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<v Speaker 2>gotta give in. I you know, had some questions about

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<v Speaker 2>how Rosemand going into the year. You got to give

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<v Speaker 2>Rosemand credit. That's a hell of a roster they've built.

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<v Speaker 2>They have talent everywhere. But yeah, so the right team

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<v Speaker 2>did win. But man, oh man, you're supposed to lose

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<v Speaker 2>playoff games. It's really hard. Like the Rams had the

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<v Speaker 2>two turnovers, right, the two fumbles which let the Eagles

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<v Speaker 2>take control. The Eagles mental errors and coaching errors plus

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<v Speaker 2>a quarterback injury. It's supposed to cost you a playoff game.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, let's talk about Detroit.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, so last year, Dan Campbell told his team after

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<v Speaker 4>they lost to San Francisco that was probably gonna be

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<v Speaker 4>their last shot at the Super Bowl this year. They

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<v Speaker 4>weren't able to overcome the devastating injuries or, as you

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<v Speaker 4>would say, Jared Goff's tiny hands.

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<v Speaker 2>So, Ben, you guys were thinking it on that fumble

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<v Speaker 2>when that ball slipped out of his hands in the

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<v Speaker 2>red zone. You guys were thinking it too. Be honest,

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<v Speaker 2>you guys were like, oh, man, his hands killed you,

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<v Speaker 2>but go ahead.

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<v Speaker 3>Guys got small hands.

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<v Speaker 4>Ben Johnson is gone with Caleb Williams, and how wor

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<v Speaker 4>it is Aaron Klinn might be out of there too.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you think Campbell is right? Was? Did they officially

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<v Speaker 3>miss their win? Don't win the Super Bowl?

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<v Speaker 2>No? I don't think you're gonna say they officially missed

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<v Speaker 2>their window. But this year is this is just as

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<v Speaker 2>painful of a situation as you can imagine. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>the the defensive injuries killed him. Ben Johnson, who you

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<v Speaker 2>know I wanted the Bears to hire, and the Bears

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<v Speaker 2>are hiring. I thought, you know, the silver medal for

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<v Speaker 2>most insane plague call of the weekend was Ben Johnson.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, let me just tell you guys a little

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<v Speaker 2>about James and Williams. Jameis and Williams got drafted by

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<v Speaker 2>the Lions in the first round. He was out because

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<v Speaker 2>of an injury in college. He then after his first

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<v Speaker 2>year got suspended for gambling, then after his second year

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<v Speaker 2>got suspended for steroids. While he was suspended for steroids,

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<v Speaker 2>got pulled over by the cops, had guns in the

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<v Speaker 2>car and was like, no, no, no, I played for

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<v Speaker 2>the Lions. You gotta let me go. You know. It

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<v Speaker 2>seems like they did let him go, and then that

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<v Speaker 2>story came out well. In this game, he scored a

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<v Speaker 2>touchdown and then pretended to have deeply passionate sex with

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<v Speaker 2>the end zone before the cameras pulled off. That's that's

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<v Speaker 2>the player he is. Okay, that's who he is. Ben

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<v Speaker 2>Johnson in the fourth quarter of the playoff game, at

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<v Speaker 2>knowing who he was going into the game and then

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<v Speaker 2>knowing an hour ago, this guy, I mean really aggressively

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<v Speaker 2>humped the end zone. You know what I think I

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<v Speaker 2>should do ask him to make a critical on the

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<v Speaker 2>fly decision about to throw a pass or not throw

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<v Speaker 2>a pass. I mean that that was a problem and

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<v Speaker 2>that lost him the game. Now maybe they would have

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<v Speaker 2>lost anyway, but they were down ten and scoring every

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<v Speaker 2>time that Golf didn't turn it over like they they

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<v Speaker 2>were in the game. Not the time for that, bro, No,

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<v Speaker 2>not the time for that. If I have like a

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<v Speaker 2>critical letter that needs to be delivered and I tie

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<v Speaker 2>it around Dexter's my dog's neck and kick him in

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<v Speaker 2>the ass out the door and like go boy, and

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<v Speaker 2>it's like, I'm in letter didn't get delivered. Is it

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<v Speaker 2>on him? I don't know, it's not. And so I

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<v Speaker 2>that was a banana's decision. And then so the defensive injuries,

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<v Speaker 2>golf's hat trick of turnovers that mattered in the first half,

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<v Speaker 2>fumble picked six where he got cracked, and then the

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<v Speaker 2>pick in the end zone, and then the Jamison thing.

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<v Speaker 2>And so I listen, I feel sick for Lions fans,

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<v Speaker 2>I really do. And I'm not saying it's closed for them.

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<v Speaker 2>I am saying there's a decent chance five years from

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<v Speaker 2>now we're gonna say their best shot was last year.

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<v Speaker 2>In this year, I think that's more than on the board.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, let's do Jaden.

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<v Speaker 4>All right, So Washington and Jaydeen Daniels surprised America dominating

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<v Speaker 4>the Lions. All it was a shootout, and then they

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<v Speaker 4>ended up pulling away with it, crazy game.

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<v Speaker 3>Obviously, Jayden Daniels is a rookie.

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<v Speaker 4>Has anyone impressed you more in the NFL than Jadeen

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<v Speaker 4>Daniels and this last two weeks in the NFL, this

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<v Speaker 4>whole year.

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<v Speaker 2>No. No. And I know people think I'm anti Jaden

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<v Speaker 2>because I was skeptical of in coming out of college.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to make this for the one hundredth time,

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<v Speaker 2>very very clear. My Jaden take is a very simple one.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought he was phenomenal as last year at LSU.

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<v Speaker 2>I think the talent and it seems like character as

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<v Speaker 2>well as off the charts. I am incredibly nervous about

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<v Speaker 2>his ability to hold up long term from a health

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<v Speaker 2>perspective because of his frame, how thin he is, combined

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<v Speaker 2>with his style of play. That's that's the take. The

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<v Speaker 2>take is not oh he's not good.

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<v Speaker 3>Now.

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<v Speaker 2>I was on the record Demons saying I would have

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<v Speaker 2>taken Drake May ahead of him because Drake May is

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<v Speaker 2>three years younger and the is sturdier. But I don't

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<v Speaker 2>think he's My take on bow Nicks is low ceiling.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think he's that good. We'll see if I'm

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<v Speaker 2>right about that. He had a very good rookieyear. Take

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<v Speaker 2>on Jayden? Is I worry about him the way I

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<v Speaker 2>worried about RG three? Go ahead, you want to say something.

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<v Speaker 4>So Jane Daniels is like, Jane Daniels is five pounds

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<v Speaker 4>lighter than Caleb Williams. I think Jayden Daniel's two ten

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<v Speaker 4>cale Williams two fifteen.

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<v Speaker 3>Is that fake news?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, Jayde Daniels one ninety five, you know in college

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<v Speaker 2>he's also three inches taller than Caleb. So that's the

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<v Speaker 2>other thing. Lit Lawrence Slinder, So yeah it But go ahea.

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<v Speaker 4>So I had a question, would a nightmare scenario be

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<v Speaker 4>for you Jade and Daniels facing the Chiefs in the

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<v Speaker 4>Super Bowl? Jayde Daniels poticially beats Patrick Maholmes to stop

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<v Speaker 4>the three pete you're hyping up. Jade Daniels is exactly

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<v Speaker 4>who you described Caleb Williams to.

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<v Speaker 2>Be, I know. So that's what's crazy. So and I listen,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not anti Jaden, but it is he's living the

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<v Speaker 2>life that I thought Caleb would be living right now. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>and by the way, listen, ultimate spind zone is this

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<v Speaker 2>demanse if in If I were to say to you,

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<v Speaker 2>listen a massive meteor massive is gonna hit Argentina in

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<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty seven, and everyone's like, no way, it's never happened,

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<v Speaker 2>It never would never happen. Everyone's like, you're crazy. Seven

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<v Speaker 2>a massive meteor hits Brazil. Am I dead wrong? Or

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<v Speaker 2>am I more right than anyone? If all off season

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<v Speaker 2>I said, an NFC rookie quarterback is going to meet

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<v Speaker 2>Patrick Mahomes in the Super Bowl, and everyone's like, you're crazy,

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<v Speaker 2>rookie's never been there, conference stacked, whatever it is. And

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<v Speaker 2>then in February, an NFC rookie quarterback meets Patrick Mahomes

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<v Speaker 2>in the Super Bowl, but it was just the number

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<v Speaker 2>two pick instead of the number one pick. Am I

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<v Speaker 2>wrong or am I more right than anyone? It's just

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<v Speaker 2>a question people are asking, Uh, listen, Jaden's been unbelievable,

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<v Speaker 2>and the top four quarterbacks in football Demonse Mahomes, Alan

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<v Speaker 2>Borough lamore that fifth spot. It's like seven guys. You

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<v Speaker 2>could argue. At various points over the last year and

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<v Speaker 2>a half, people have argued the following names, just running

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<v Speaker 2>through them, Dak Stafford, Purty, Love Hurts, Herbert.

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<v Speaker 3>Over all those names you just listed easily.

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<v Speaker 2>That's except that's what I'm that's what I'm making a case. Yeah, No,

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<v Speaker 2>Jaden's already got playoffs.

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<v Speaker 4>It's just talking about like the skill set. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>he's he's different and he's calm. It's like he's been

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<v Speaker 4>here before.

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<v Speaker 2>But there's no question about him. Uh, you're absolutely right.

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<v Speaker 2>The only dip he had all year was when he

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<v Speaker 2>got banged up. So he's been unbelievable. And we'll talk

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<v Speaker 2>more about that game this weekend. All right, quick break

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<v Speaker 2>answers a few listener questions. Uh, and I gotta go soon,

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<v Speaker 2>so we'll just answer a few quick break right back,

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<v Speaker 2>What's right? All right, welcome back in What's Right with

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<v Speaker 2>Nick right demonte ask these three listener questions, and I

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<v Speaker 2>got to.

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<v Speaker 4>Run Casey Colossal not named Mahomes. Which quarterback would you

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<v Speaker 4>like to start a franchise.

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<v Speaker 2>With Allen the I would? I mean it would for me,

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<v Speaker 2>it would, Yeah, it would be Alan. Uh, and that's

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<v Speaker 2>a pretty easy question. The Burrow Burrows the only other

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<v Speaker 2>one that I would have a real strong argument for.

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<v Speaker 2>But Allen's the most maybe the most durable player in

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<v Speaker 2>the league, and Joe's not. I know Joe was held

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<v Speaker 2>up this year, but so that that one's that one's

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<v Speaker 2>super easy.

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<v Speaker 4>Next, mister Brownstone, is Jade Daniels already a better quarterback

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<v Speaker 4>than Lamar Jackson all the running ability but the ability

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<v Speaker 4>to pass.

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<v Speaker 2>No, So that no, So that's what I think way

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<v Speaker 2>too far, because here's the thing. There is real obvious

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<v Speaker 2>tangible value, obvious tangible value to Lamar being an a

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<v Speaker 2>triple plus in the regular season, even if he never

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<v Speaker 2>improves in the postseason. If this is who he is

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<v Speaker 2>the rest of his career, the odds are they'll win

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<v Speaker 2>a Super Bowl anyway. That you know that, and so

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<v Speaker 2>the and Jaden right, but also now listen if Jaden,

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<v Speaker 2>if if Jaden is here's why I would prompt the brakes.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like a lot of people were saying something

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<v Speaker 2>similar last year about CJ and maybe even Jordan Love, like,

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<v Speaker 2>oh man, look at all this, you know, young guy,

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<v Speaker 2>instant bactability progression in this league is not linear. And

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<v Speaker 2>this is also when people are talking about the thin

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<v Speaker 2>margins you were talking about with the Ravens Demonsey. There's

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<v Speaker 2>also this Jayden's been unbelievable. If the Bucks rookie center

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't screw up the snap count with two minutes left

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<v Speaker 2>in round one. We probably don't get any of this

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<v Speaker 2>from Jayden. It doesn't make him any you know what

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<v Speaker 2>I mean? Like that, that's how thin he's youre. They

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<v Speaker 2>ended up selling for a field goal. Jayden then drove

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<v Speaker 2>the field and then we saw that unbelievable game against

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<v Speaker 2>Detroit right last one.

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<v Speaker 4>Eric garn says there's a case for Harball being responsible

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<v Speaker 4>for a game plan that did not focus on the

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<v Speaker 4>rushing attack.

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<v Speaker 3>How do you not leverage the King Henry rushing attack?

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<v Speaker 2>Listen? They Lamar only threw the ball twenty five times.

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<v Speaker 2>I think the real criticism is they should have Lamar

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<v Speaker 2>should have run more. Henry had sixteen carries. That's not enough,

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<v Speaker 2>but they were behind. Justice Hill though had a half

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<v Speaker 2>dozen carries, and he was electric when he got him.

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<v Speaker 2>My frustration with that is, I think it's very very

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<v Speaker 2>telling when folks all throughout the regular season are like,

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<v Speaker 2>this guy is the MVP, and then when that team

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<v Speaker 2>loses in the playoffs, they're like, why did they give

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<v Speaker 2>the MVP the ball so much? They should have given

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<v Speaker 2>to someone else. That's all all right, I've got to

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<v Speaker 2>do Colin in about an hour, very excited to hear

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<v Speaker 2>the latest reason why Jmack thinks the Chiefs actually won't

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<v Speaker 2>win when they just keep winning, and argue with Colin

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<v Speaker 2>the hierarchy. I will see you guys on First Things

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