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Speaker 2: Welcome in, We'll drive in the Great episode two ninety four.

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Speaker 2: Appropriately dressed today with the Chiefs Colors villain sweatshirt. He got,

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Speaker 2: all right, you need a bad guy, will be your

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Speaker 2: bad guy. I You are gonna unbelievable. The amount of

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Speaker 2: whining and bitching and moaning from folks at the praying

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Speaker 2: at the altar, defending a Texans team that did everything

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Speaker 2: you do to lose a game. Terrible special teams. Check

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Speaker 2: lose your composure, check score one touchdown on offense, check

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Speaker 2: all the refs, every single one of those calls. Everyone's

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Speaker 2: complaining about having when the Chiefs had the ball. The

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Speaker 2: Texans big advantage is their defensive line. Their guy got

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Speaker 2: sacked eight times their guy. So but that's fine. I

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Speaker 2: part of me understands it because I will admit, during

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Speaker 2: the midst of the Patriots dynasty, I felt like they

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Speaker 2: got all the calls, so I empathize. But what was

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Speaker 2: tied to the Patriots. The feeling of the unfairness with

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Speaker 2: the Patriots was the multiple documented cheating scandals that they

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Speaker 2: it was like, oh, it feels like it might not

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Speaker 2: all be above board. The Chiefs invite a pop star

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Speaker 2: to a game and people are like, man, the NFL's

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Speaker 2: rigging it. By the way, how would that work. I'm

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Speaker 2: just curious when they're like, the NFL is rigging it.

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Speaker 2: We know the NFL is just thirty two owners of

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Speaker 2: other teams. They're like, guys, here's the plan. We're screwing

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Speaker 2: our own team, and the Texans owners like, gosh darn it.

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Speaker 2: All right, fine, I'm in on it, but I don't

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Speaker 2: not the owner, So who is it? Roger Goodell, who

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Speaker 2: Sixty million a year, highest speed person in sports. More

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Speaker 2: he might make all in more than show. Hey, and

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Speaker 2: he's like, all right, at the risk of ruining the

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Speaker 2: greatest gig in sports, I just gotta tell you. I'm

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Speaker 2: just gonna tell Cleate Blakeman fifty to fifty calls, give

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Speaker 2: him to the chiefs every time, morons. We'll get to

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Speaker 2: that in a moment, but first, demand's good to see you.

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Speaker 2: We didn't talk this weekend, A tough spot for your ravens.

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Speaker 2: Feel like we've been here before. We'll get to that

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Speaker 2: as we normally do. Here's what missed the cut. This

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Speaker 2: everything about this young man Rizzler. I don't know who

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Speaker 2: because he was at the football game. TikTok bandon unbanded.

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Speaker 2: Oh okay, nice, I really don't know. Is that what

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Speaker 2: Baby Gronk's nickname was Rizzler. I didn't know these were

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Speaker 2: people want the football commentaries grace football week in the year.

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Speaker 2: Have I ever told the audience? Have I even ever

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Speaker 2: I don't know if I have. Maybe I know I

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Speaker 2: I every year, for like however long you do spelling

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Speaker 2: And the reason the story was believable is because, well, yeah,

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Speaker 2: I gotta listen to Dan Orlovsky being like, if you

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Speaker 4: Uh yeah, So Lamar obviously didn't put that narrative to

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Speaker 2: Beer's certainly not all Lamar. And the second half rally

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Speaker 2: here's where I will The Mark Andrews fumble was brutal.

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Speaker 2: Fifty percent? I think lower, but they had just driven

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Speaker 2: the game goes to overtime. That's a fifty to fifty

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Speaker 2: So I'm not gonna kill Mark Andrews, but he was brutal,

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Speaker 2: and I'm not gonna kill Lamar. But what I'm also

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Speaker 2: not going to do is be gaslighted by other media

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Speaker 2: members that have just changed the definitions of how we

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Speaker 2: Bill Barnwell, I have said for fifteen years since I

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Speaker 2: which is what makes this stuff so disappointing to me.

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Speaker 2: At its base base level, you have a player in

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Speaker 2: Lamar who all year long. It's not only that he

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Speaker 2: four interceptions, and we've all seen the clips. None were

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Speaker 2: So really, he went all year without a horrendous throw

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Speaker 2: his ability to remain a pocket passer while avoiding the

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Speaker 2: And then not the Mark Andrew's two point conversion the

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Speaker 2: down the field, they put the ball in Lamar's hands,

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Speaker 2: All those things happened. None of those things were happening

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Speaker 2: think the guy's a different player in the postseason. The

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Speaker 2: last time Lamar Jackson had multiple turnovers in a game,

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Speaker 2: the last play the playoffs game against the Chiefs, the

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Speaker 2: Now again he rallied and played well. But it is

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Speaker 2: so patronizing to the player for a guy who, if

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Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers retires, will have more First team All Pros

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Speaker 2: Who a guy, if Vegas is correct, is about to

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Speaker 2: be Peyton won, Aaron Rodgers two, Lamar Jackson three, same

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Speaker 2: That that guy gets judged on the same standard that

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Speaker 2: people were holding Brock Purty to last year in the playoffs. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: he was brutal in the first half, but he rallied

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Speaker 2: in the second and PTY at least won those games.

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Speaker 2: And then we have folks twisting themselves in knots to argue, actually,

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Speaker 2: he was good, and that's the part that I can't abide.

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Speaker 2: And this is what Bill and Ben and Steven that

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Speaker 2: I was arguing with on Twitter yesterday. We're arguing it

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Speaker 2: wasn't that just that, Nick, It's just one game.

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Speaker 3: It was no.

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Speaker 2: Actually, Lamar was really good yesterday. That was the argument, Yead.

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Speaker 2: It's not Mahomes versus these guys. It's that we have

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Speaker 2: That so that part, so I don't know why people

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Speaker 2: rallied in the second half. Okay, that's a legitimate discussion

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Speaker 2: because he could have crumbled. They were down double digits.

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Speaker 2: is sample sized stuff. Excellent playoff run isn't super interesting

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Speaker 2: his career, I'd price it at like minus one thousand, Lol. Okay,

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Speaker 2: just don't think it's nearly as predictive as of future

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Speaker 2: there is just a belief some people have that I

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Speaker 2: It's the it's the quarterback who's been able to avoid disaster. Now,

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Speaker 2: personally for quarterbacks value playoff performance disproportunately the regular season performance.

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Speaker 2: That's different than the player who was during the regular season.

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Speaker 2: Can't argue that. Yeah, the question is because both Ben

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Speaker 2: make are you going to be like? But it'll be

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Speaker 2: Lamar was better this weekend. I so there's just a

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Speaker 2: the Chiefs fumbled, that Mahomes fumbled, that he then picked up.

427
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Speaker 2: Like that's not that's totally You're gonna include it as

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Speaker 2: if that is anything like Lamar setting the ball on

429
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Speaker 2: the ground and von Miller picking it up and running

430
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Speaker 2: fifty yards. But you are, you're conflating things here, because

431
00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:29,520
Speaker 2: what you have is a player who avoided the critical

432
00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:35,040
Speaker 2: mistake in Purty but did not make the plays necessary

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Speaker 2: to win, and then a player who made one big

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Speaker 2: mistake in Mahomes and then made all of the necessary

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Speaker 2: plays to win. And you're somehow saying Lamar is like Mahomes,

436
00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:51,240
Speaker 2: when Lamar had two or three critical mistakes and then

437
00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:53,680
Speaker 2: did not make the necessary place to win. Now you

438
00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:56,480
Speaker 2: could say made the play to Mark Andrews. And that's where,

439
00:30:56,520 --> 00:30:59,000
Speaker 2: again I remind you, that was not a two point

440
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Speaker 2: conversion down one with one second left. That was a

441
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Speaker 2: two point conversion down two with a minute and a

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Speaker 2: half left. So I don't I don't know, I don't

443
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Speaker 2: know what to what to do. And then just quickly

444
00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:20,480
Speaker 2: the Stephen Ruiz thing, and then dan Orlovsky, so Stephen

445
00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:28,080
Speaker 2: Ruiz was said, for the record, I defended Mahome. Mahomes

446
00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:31,800
Speaker 2: after that game, meaning the super Bowl, and after the

447
00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:34,960
Speaker 2: Bengals game, you guys are essentially doing the same thing

448
00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:38,360
Speaker 2: you'd be frustrated with if it happened to Mahomes. And

449
00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:41,720
Speaker 2: this is again, and I hate to use such harsh language,

450
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Speaker 2: but this is intellectual dishonesty to me, because, as I explained,

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Speaker 2: if Mahomes going into that Tampa Super Bowl wasn't on

452
00:31:54,440 --> 00:32:00,080
Speaker 2: a five straight awesome playoff game winning streak and a

453
00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:04,640
Speaker 2: Super Bowl champion already, he probably would have caught more heat.

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Speaker 2: And so then I brought up what I thought was

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00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:16,760
Speaker 2: a perfect analogy, and we can show it the uh

456
00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:18,840
Speaker 2: you know, Okay, we don't have the whole thing, which is,

457
00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:26,240
Speaker 2: would you treat the Times Steph Curry has come up

458
00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:29,600
Speaker 2: short in the postseason remotely the same as how you

459
00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:33,400
Speaker 2: would treat the Times James Harden has. I don't, even

460
00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:37,520
Speaker 2: though they have very similar regular season resumes. And Steven Ruiz,

461
00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:41,320
Speaker 2: who I think is awesome, right, come on, man, they're

462
00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:44,800
Speaker 2: both in their mid thirties. Bro, that's not what we're

463
00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:51,760
Speaker 2: talking about. We're talking in twenty eighteen. In twoenty eighteen,

464
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Speaker 2: when they were both in their Primes. If Steph Curry

465
00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:59,840
Speaker 2: had a rough game in the postseason and James Harden,

466
00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:02,960
Speaker 2: the league MVP, at a rough game in the postseason,

467
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Speaker 2: do we treat it the same? Of course not, because

468
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Speaker 2: everybody knows and everybody acts the same about all of

469
00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:15,840
Speaker 2: this stuff, except for when it comes to this quarterback.

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Speaker 2: And I will give Mike Silver credit because he actually

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Speaker 2: said he was honest about where a lot of this

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Speaker 2: comes from. I'm gonna read Mike Silver directly. If I

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Speaker 2: seem a little triggered by the Jackson bashing, I have

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Speaker 2: my reasons. Critics have tried to marginalize him from the jump,

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Speaker 2: even before he was in the league. Remember in February

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Speaker 2: of twenty eighteen, two months before the Ravens drafted the

477
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Speaker 2: former Louisville start with the last pick of the first round,

478
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Speaker 2: when Hall of Fame general manager Bill Polian proclaimed on

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Speaker 2: ESPN that Jackson should switch to wide receiver. Poleon called

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00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:09,720
Speaker 2: the Heisman Trophy winner quote short and a little bit slight.

481
00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:13,600
Speaker 2: Clearly clearly not the thrower the other guys are. The

482
00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:18,480
Speaker 2: accuracy isn't there. So here's why I bring that up.

483
00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:23,200
Speaker 2: And I've said this before and I will say it again,

484
00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:33,919
Speaker 2: the initial Lamar Jackson discourse was toxic and not by

485
00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:42,200
Speaker 2: Poleon necessarily, but by others oftentimes felt racist. That is undeniable.

486
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Speaker 2: Because of that, there have been, in my opinion, a

487
00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:59,319
Speaker 2: lot of well meaning people who have felt like we

488
00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:05,200
Speaker 2: can't and shouldn't criticize him, and it's patronizing to the player.

489
00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:09,480
Speaker 2: And that is why. And it all is fruit of

490
00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:16,160
Speaker 2: that Bill Poleian poisonous tree from February of twenty eighteen,

491
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Speaker 2: because everyone during the when Lamar was taken the league

492
00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:32,239
Speaker 2: by storm crushed Pollion for what was incorrect analysis. But

493
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Speaker 2: then when you read the quote that Mike Silver puts

494
00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:42,920
Speaker 2: in there, what you will see is Lamar's biggest defenders

495
00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:49,040
Speaker 2: echoing a piece of it short and a little bit slight.

496
00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:52,680
Speaker 2: And my buddy Ben Solex like well, early in his career,

497
00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:56,000
Speaker 2: they had to figure out his weight, clearly not the

498
00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:58,680
Speaker 2: thrower of the football. Other guys, are you know what

499
00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:02,239
Speaker 2: yesterday's commentary was, Why didn't they give the ball to

500
00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:06,720
Speaker 2: Derek Henry Moore? Why weren't there more Lamar Jackson designed runs?

501
00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:12,240
Speaker 2: And nobody wants to be lumped in with the folks

502
00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:15,480
Speaker 2: that were like, yeah, Bill Pollyan's right, the guys should

503
00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:19,360
Speaker 2: change positions because those people were idiots, they were wrong,

504
00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:25,000
Speaker 2: and oftentimes they felt racist. And so because of all

505
00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:30,840
Speaker 2: of that, there is now folks twisting themselves in knots

506
00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:36,239
Speaker 2: rather than simply saying guys. Reminds me a lot of

507
00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:41,480
Speaker 2: Peyton Manning. Not a single quarterback i'd rather have, maybe

508
00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:43,960
Speaker 2: in the history of the league in the regular season,

509
00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:49,200
Speaker 2: but in the biggest spots you're kind of holding your breath.

510
00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:56,040
Speaker 2: That's all it is, that's all it's ever been. And

511
00:36:56,200 --> 00:37:01,600
Speaker 2: he did have an opportunity Demons for a Peyton Manning moment.

512
00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:06,040
Speaker 2: Yesterday Peyton or Sunday, Peyton Manning was down twenty one

513
00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:10,440
Speaker 2: to three in the AFC Championship Game and didn't play

514
00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:13,279
Speaker 2: great in the beginning of that game, and he didn't

515
00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:16,319
Speaker 2: almost come back. He came all the way back and

516
00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:18,600
Speaker 2: they got the Super Bowl, and then the Super Bowl,

517
00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:21,080
Speaker 2: he didn't play great again, Director Roswim, they won anyway.

518
00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:25,600
Speaker 2: One day, Lamarro will have it. I would bet, But

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00:37:27,719 --> 00:37:33,680
Speaker 2: I just I don't I resent people. I shouldn't say

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00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:40,640
Speaker 2: resent people. I resent the idea that somehow this level

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00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:42,959
Speaker 2: of analysis that I've done for the last half hour

522
00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:50,280
Speaker 2: is lowbrow. That all that's morning talk show stuff. When guys,

523
00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:56,239
Speaker 2: if you're explaining to me that actually, by success rate

524
00:37:56,440 --> 00:38:01,880
Speaker 2: or EPA per play or QBR, Lamar was great on Sunday,

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Speaker 2: I say this with no reservation. You are the one

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Speaker 2: that doesn't understand football. If you thought Lamar played a

527
00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:14,360
Speaker 2: great game on Sunday, you don't understand how football works.

528
00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:19,920
Speaker 2: And no fancy advanced metric is gonna teach you. Now,

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00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:23,680
Speaker 2: if you went on TV and said Lamar and I

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00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:25,640
Speaker 2: don't even want to say this because someone will just

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Speaker 2: clip it fully out of context, so I'm gonna cover

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Speaker 2: my face when I do it. Uh. If you went

533
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Speaker 2: on TV and said Lamar is a playoff choker you'll

534
00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:37,400
Speaker 2: never win. The guy stinks you're an idiot too, But

535
00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:41,839
Speaker 2: nobody said that. That's a straw man that doesn't exist.

536
00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:46,680
Speaker 2: And if you if you have a job on those

537
00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:52,359
Speaker 2: morning talk shows or afternoon talk shows and your take

538
00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:59,600
Speaker 2: is it's nobody's fault they lost and any criticism makes

539
00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:05,000
Speaker 2: you a loser, as Danie Rolofski's take was, then amen,

540
00:39:06,160 --> 00:39:08,600
Speaker 2: I hope you get that offensive for their job you've

541
00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:11,480
Speaker 2: been gunning for. Wow, something just broke. I don't even

542
00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:12,920
Speaker 2: know what just happened? Is everything?

543
00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:13,160
Speaker 3: Okay?

544
00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:19,560
Speaker 2: Was there an earthquake? There? My goodness? Okay, you're all

545
00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:23,600
Speaker 2: right though, all right, well, let me let me bring

546
00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:28,200
Speaker 2: this back because this might maybe that was the sports

547
00:39:28,239 --> 00:39:31,760
Speaker 2: media on Budsman God saying Nick save this for Thursday

548
00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:34,000
Speaker 2: on the show, but I won't, So I'll do it

549
00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:39,160
Speaker 2: again here. If put the worl Offski tweet back up.

550
00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:45,040
Speaker 2: If your take is you can't put the loss on anyone,

551
00:39:45,880 --> 00:39:52,920
Speaker 2: and if you do, you're a loser, then amen, then

552
00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:59,399
Speaker 2: maybe coaching is what you're meant to do. Because as

553
00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:02,920
Speaker 2: uncommfortable as it may be, and if you check your

554
00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:09,040
Speaker 2: Twitter mentions, as angry as folks may get, our job

555
00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:12,560
Speaker 2: is not it's not purely to criticize. But it's not

556
00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:19,120
Speaker 2: purely to explain how great and awesome and wonderful everyone

557
00:40:19,239 --> 00:40:22,600
Speaker 2: played and how man, none of it was their fault.

558
00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:25,920
Speaker 2: And I'll read the Verlovsky tweet in full for the

559
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Speaker 2: audio audience, because man, he has so much courage when

560
00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:35,440
Speaker 2: it comes to taking shots at other people in his

561
00:40:35,600 --> 00:40:42,640
Speaker 2: current profession, because he is so unable to have even

562
00:40:42,680 --> 00:40:46,719
Speaker 2: a modicum of criticism for folks in his previous profession.

563
00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:51,600
Speaker 2: But quote. If you put the loss on Lamar tonight, respectfully,

564
00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:55,680
Speaker 2: you're a loser. Mark Andrews, one of the all time

565
00:40:55,760 --> 00:40:58,719
Speaker 2: Ravens had a brutal drop of a fumble. Yes, if

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00:40:58,760 --> 00:41:03,280
Speaker 2: you're gonna use that to crash him, respectfully, you're a loser.

567
00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:07,560
Speaker 3: Man.

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00:41:08,040 --> 00:41:16,440
Speaker 2: Again, I think I've shown I'm pretty like no sacred

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Speaker 2: cows to me. I ran there. I'd spend twenty minutes

570
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Speaker 2: running through tweets of friends of mine because I think

571
00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:26,719
Speaker 2: they're out of their mind. I obviously will criticize athletes.

572
00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:29,960
Speaker 2: I also try when I think something's awesome or someone's

573
00:41:29,960 --> 00:41:33,480
Speaker 2: been awesome, to praise it. The TV show I do

574
00:41:33,880 --> 00:41:36,320
Speaker 2: is as much of a celebration of sports as anything

575
00:41:36,360 --> 00:41:39,239
Speaker 2: on TV. We'll have more fun than anybody, But I

576
00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:46,000
Speaker 2: understand what the job is. I I find it really

577
00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:57,480
Speaker 2: I want to use the right word here telling that

578
00:41:57,520 --> 00:42:04,000
Speaker 2: Orolovsky has all the smoke in the world for folks

579
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Speaker 2: who do his current job in a way he thinks

580
00:42:10,080 --> 00:42:15,400
Speaker 2: his subpar, but literally set on TV to Shannon Sharp

581
00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:20,000
Speaker 2: a couple months ago that it's not his job to

582
00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:24,799
Speaker 2: criticize folks who do his previous job NFL quarterback if

583
00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:27,560
Speaker 2: they do it subpar. Not his job. That's not my job.

584
00:42:27,800 --> 00:42:32,080
Speaker 2: I'm not here for that. Okay, man, the kids would say,

585
00:42:32,160 --> 00:42:35,919
Speaker 2: keep that same energy, but listen, when you're doing a job,

586
00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:39,640
Speaker 2: because you're trying to get the coaching job, it's gonna be.

587
00:42:39,680 --> 00:42:43,520
Speaker 2: It's everyone's great, everyone's always great, no one's at fault.

588
00:42:43,719 --> 00:42:46,200
Speaker 2: And in fact, anyone that criticizes anyone, they're a loser.

589
00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:50,680
Speaker 2: Got it, no problem? Uh, all right, I think we've

590
00:42:50,719 --> 00:42:53,640
Speaker 2: got that pretty well covered. We'll talk Josh Allen on Thursday.

591
00:42:53,719 --> 00:42:59,040
Speaker 2: Let's do the Chiefs. What demonse you want to say?

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Speaker 2: You you can whatever you want. Wet no, no, no, no, So.

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Speaker 4: The Chief the Chief season obviously starts now after they

594
00:43:09,400 --> 00:43:10,640
Speaker 4: just took care of Houston.

595
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Speaker 3: Uh. Who do you think Buffalo should be more concerned about?

596
00:43:15,280 --> 00:43:18,360
Speaker 4: Between Patrick Mahomes, maybe some of his teammates or his

597
00:43:18,520 --> 00:43:22,800
Speaker 4: extended teammates, the referees, Dude, what do you think they should?

598
00:43:23,360 --> 00:43:29,399
Speaker 2: Let's talk about the refs. And you guys have heard

599
00:43:29,440 --> 00:43:31,200
Speaker 2: me say I think I said on this last show

600
00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:37,080
Speaker 2: that I think Buck and Aikman are made men. Unbelievable

601
00:43:38,320 --> 00:43:46,440
Speaker 2: love their broadcasts. Aikman has been very consistent in that

602
00:43:46,560 --> 00:43:50,040
Speaker 2: how much he hates the new rules about protecting quarterbacks.

603
00:43:50,560 --> 00:43:53,680
Speaker 2: So I don't buy that he like has a vendetta

604
00:43:53,719 --> 00:43:57,279
Speaker 2: against Mahomes. I don't I don't buy that. I don't

605
00:43:57,320 --> 00:44:02,160
Speaker 2: think that he really doesn't like the new rules. I

606
00:44:02,360 --> 00:44:11,040
Speaker 2: thought they missed the mark a bit in their slavish

607
00:44:11,120 --> 00:44:14,640
Speaker 2: focus on the roughing the passer calls. And we don't

608
00:44:14,680 --> 00:44:18,400
Speaker 2: have video rights, you know, NFL highlight rights for the podcast,

609
00:44:18,719 --> 00:44:23,120
Speaker 2: but we'll go through them. The first one, if you

610
00:44:24,440 --> 00:44:28,240
Speaker 2: go back and watch the game in real time TV

611
00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:32,600
Speaker 2: copy and just watch Mahomes. Don't watch when he throws

612
00:44:32,600 --> 00:44:36,680
Speaker 2: the ball, Just watch Mahomes. That looks like as obvious

613
00:44:36,800 --> 00:44:39,640
Speaker 2: of a roughing the passer call as you'll see in

614
00:44:39,680 --> 00:44:43,960
Speaker 2: the league all year. It is a high hit to

615
00:44:44,040 --> 00:44:46,880
Speaker 2: the head, his head snaps back. The ref who standing

616
00:44:46,880 --> 00:44:50,120
Speaker 2: behind it, throws the flag. The first replay we see,

617
00:44:50,560 --> 00:44:53,839
Speaker 2: which is from the refs angle, it looks like an

618
00:44:53,960 --> 00:44:58,680
Speaker 2: obvious roughing the passer call. The third replay we see,

619
00:44:58,760 --> 00:45:01,560
Speaker 2: when it's from the side, you see that most of

620
00:45:01,560 --> 00:45:05,600
Speaker 2: the contact did come to the chest and there was

621
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Speaker 2: like grazing contact to Mahomes' face mask. Okay, now you

622
00:45:09,880 --> 00:45:14,600
Speaker 2: can say Mahomes sold it. I suppose it's also Will Anderson,

623
00:45:14,640 --> 00:45:17,560
Speaker 2: one of the fastest, best defensive players in football, hitting

624
00:45:17,600 --> 00:45:21,800
Speaker 2: him full speed. My and that was a huge penalty.

625
00:45:21,840 --> 00:45:24,759
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna act like it wasn't because that was

626
00:45:24,880 --> 00:45:26,799
Speaker 2: third down. The Chiefs kept the ball, they end up

627
00:45:26,800 --> 00:45:31,120
Speaker 2: getting three points. What I am And this is where

628
00:45:31,160 --> 00:45:34,799
Speaker 2: I think folks are intellectually dishonest. And I keep using

629
00:45:34,800 --> 00:45:41,239
Speaker 2: that term. That call gets made in every game all

630
00:45:41,360 --> 00:45:46,040
Speaker 2: year long. That's not a Chief's only thing. Every time

631
00:45:46,480 --> 00:45:50,560
Speaker 2: the quarterback gets whacked and his head flings back and

632
00:45:50,560 --> 00:45:53,800
Speaker 2: the hits high, that's a flag. And what I felt

633
00:45:53,840 --> 00:45:59,080
Speaker 2: the broadcast missed was that play was reviewed and upheld

634
00:45:59,120 --> 00:46:02,160
Speaker 2: by New York. They saw it and they were like, yes,

635
00:46:02,480 --> 00:46:05,279
Speaker 2: that's a penalty, or at the very least what they

636
00:46:05,320 --> 00:46:09,640
Speaker 2: said is we can't overturn it because there was some

637
00:46:09,760 --> 00:46:12,959
Speaker 2: contact to the helmet. So the first one, which did

638
00:46:13,000 --> 00:46:15,680
Speaker 2: help the Chiefs pook points on the board, is a

639
00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:21,680
Speaker 2: regular call, a regular, typical call. The second one, I

640
00:46:21,800 --> 00:46:25,600
Speaker 2: understand people being annoyed by for two reasons. One is

641
00:46:26,160 --> 00:46:29,200
Speaker 2: Mahomes baited them into it, and the other one was

642
00:46:30,080 --> 00:46:33,880
Speaker 2: they hit each other, not him. That was a bad call.

643
00:46:34,160 --> 00:46:36,440
Speaker 2: There is no denying that was a bad call. My

644
00:46:36,640 --> 00:46:41,520
Speaker 2: frustration with the focus on that is if they didn't

645
00:46:41,560 --> 00:46:45,880
Speaker 2: flag that it was going to be second and six.

646
00:46:47,200 --> 00:46:49,840
Speaker 2: That's the part of it that I don't follow. The

647
00:46:50,080 --> 00:46:54,840
Speaker 2: outrage on was that wasn't on third down, That wasn't

648
00:46:54,880 --> 00:46:58,000
Speaker 2: on It wasn't gonna be second or third. It wasn't

649
00:46:58,040 --> 00:47:01,399
Speaker 2: on second and twenty five. It was first and ten.

650
00:47:03,200 --> 00:47:07,439
Speaker 2: He ran for four yards, So that was a bad call.

651
00:47:08,440 --> 00:47:12,200
Speaker 2: That also I think had minimal impact on the game.

652
00:47:12,320 --> 00:47:13,640
Speaker 3: Go ahead six.

653
00:47:13,719 --> 00:47:16,200
Speaker 4: Then you know, like that's that's probably that outrage is

654
00:47:16,239 --> 00:47:18,440
Speaker 4: just like we want to see let them make the

655
00:47:18,480 --> 00:47:20,919
Speaker 4: play as opposed to the refs just teleporting them there.

656
00:47:20,960 --> 00:47:23,399
Speaker 3: You know, it's like we got it. Oh it could

657
00:47:23,400 --> 00:47:24,160
Speaker 3: have sounded something.

658
00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:31,240
Speaker 2: No, no, no, I I totally understand that, my I think,

659
00:47:31,320 --> 00:47:35,120
Speaker 2: And if we want to make roughing the passer calls reviewable,

660
00:47:35,280 --> 00:47:39,680
Speaker 2: I'm all for it also, I I And then the

661
00:47:39,880 --> 00:47:47,040
Speaker 2: the the thing people, what's to me most delusional about

662
00:47:47,200 --> 00:47:53,160
Speaker 2: the discourses the image everyone is using as anger about

663
00:47:53,200 --> 00:47:57,000
Speaker 2: the Chiefs and the refs is for Mahomes' flop on

664
00:47:57,040 --> 00:48:02,319
Speaker 2: the sideline. Yeah, but there was no flag there, Like.

665
00:48:02,360 --> 00:48:06,160
Speaker 3: There is you know where that comes from. But it's

666
00:48:06,160 --> 00:48:06,919
Speaker 3: like hand in hand.

667
00:48:07,239 --> 00:48:09,319
Speaker 4: He gets all these calls and then you see him

668
00:48:09,320 --> 00:48:13,080
Speaker 4: flop on the sideline trying the exactly.

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00:48:13,160 --> 00:48:15,759
Speaker 3: It's like, come on, man, so.

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00:48:15,840 --> 00:48:20,960
Speaker 2: No I I so I understand that. And so if

671
00:48:21,000 --> 00:48:25,040
Speaker 2: we want to, you know, revisit a lot of and

672
00:48:25,080 --> 00:48:27,440
Speaker 2: by the way, the running around the one that he

673
00:48:27,520 --> 00:48:30,640
Speaker 2: got that would have been second and six, that's dangerous

674
00:48:30,640 --> 00:48:33,000
Speaker 2: for him. I don't want him doing.

675
00:48:32,840 --> 00:48:33,879
Speaker 3: The rule for that, right.

676
00:48:33,960 --> 00:48:36,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, It's like they try to squeeze out every yard

677
00:48:36,719 --> 00:48:39,279
Speaker 4: they can and then they put the defender out of disappage.

678
00:48:40,040 --> 00:48:44,000
Speaker 2: I think that right. I think that there is a

679
00:48:44,040 --> 00:48:47,319
Speaker 2: real argument to be made that for and there's gonna

680
00:48:47,320 --> 00:48:52,680
Speaker 2: have the judgment stuff four quarterbacks, if you do not

681
00:48:53,480 --> 00:48:57,640
Speaker 2: basically instantly slide, if you you can run as far

682
00:48:57,640 --> 00:49:00,239
Speaker 2: as you can run, but slide at the you know,

683
00:49:00,320 --> 00:49:03,080
Speaker 2: as soon as someone's within X amount of yards of you,

684
00:49:03,760 --> 00:49:07,319
Speaker 2: then you're not protected anymore. Then now you're running back.

685
00:49:07,400 --> 00:49:11,360
Speaker 2: I think I'm fine with that rule. I'm also fine

686
00:49:11,400 --> 00:49:18,480
Speaker 2: with guys it's a penalty to flop on the sideline

687
00:49:19,360 --> 00:49:21,640
Speaker 2: or in a scrum because you don't see it so

688
00:49:21,719 --> 00:49:25,319
Speaker 2: much with quarterbacks, but the offensive line defensive linemen who

689
00:49:25,400 --> 00:49:28,200
Speaker 2: jawed each other having in Bill's Ravens, and some bushroom

690
00:49:28,320 --> 00:49:30,640
Speaker 2: was like, oh, I got shot. I'm fine with that

691
00:49:30,719 --> 00:49:34,040
Speaker 2: being a penalty. I'm good with all of it. But

692
00:49:34,680 --> 00:49:41,600
Speaker 2: what is so What was to me like triple annoying

693
00:49:41,640 --> 00:49:45,279
Speaker 2: about the discourse was the first penalty, which did lead

694
00:49:45,320 --> 00:49:49,320
Speaker 2: to points, is a penalty all the time in the NFL,

695
00:49:49,680 --> 00:49:51,920
Speaker 2: and they reviewed it and said, yes, it's a penalty.

696
00:49:52,239 --> 00:49:58,240
Speaker 2: The second one, I think had minimal impact on the game, minimal.

697
00:49:59,640 --> 00:50:03,279
Speaker 2: And then the other two parts of the discourse that

698
00:50:03,440 --> 00:50:09,360
Speaker 2: killed me was if we are listing reasons the Texans

699
00:50:09,440 --> 00:50:13,640
Speaker 2: lost and we're being honest, how many do we have

700
00:50:13,680 --> 00:50:17,040
Speaker 2: to list before we get to the refs. First reason

701
00:50:17,160 --> 00:50:23,080
Speaker 2: is that Travis Kelcey destroyed them, right, That's the first reason.

702
00:50:23,840 --> 00:50:29,480
Speaker 2: The second reason is they had a special team's abomination

703
00:50:30,239 --> 00:50:34,520
Speaker 2: literally from the opening kickoff. The third reason is, and

704
00:50:34,560 --> 00:50:38,600
Speaker 2: this is a pretty big one, you scored one touchdown

705
00:50:39,239 --> 00:50:43,600
Speaker 2: on the road at Arrowhead against the Chiefs. Teams doing

706
00:50:43,640 --> 00:50:47,720
Speaker 2: that are let me check, oh for life, since Mahome's

707
00:50:47,760 --> 00:50:50,560
Speaker 2: been the starter, and if we want to say, and

708
00:50:50,719 --> 00:50:53,800
Speaker 2: I would argue, the fourth reason is.

709
00:50:53,160 --> 00:50:58,280
Speaker 3: The whole line the nothing the off it well.

710
00:50:58,160 --> 00:51:01,320
Speaker 2: That kind of hand in hand with the only scoring

711
00:51:01,360 --> 00:51:04,080
Speaker 2: one touchdown. I was, you know what I mean, So

712
00:51:04,120 --> 00:51:07,920
Speaker 2: those are kind of combined. Fourth reason, I thought Demiko

713
00:51:08,440 --> 00:51:11,719
Speaker 2: had a tough game management game. I thought kicking the

714
00:51:11,760 --> 00:51:16,719
Speaker 2: fifty five yard field goal in those conditions early was

715
00:51:17,560 --> 00:51:21,000
Speaker 2: just flatly the wrong decision. And I thought rushing that

716
00:51:21,160 --> 00:51:24,960
Speaker 2: fourth and ten down eight and not using a timeout

717
00:51:25,120 --> 00:51:29,200
Speaker 2: or punting was the wrong decision. And then reason number five,

718
00:51:29,280 --> 00:51:32,120
Speaker 2: I would go to the officiating. That's how I would

719
00:51:32,280 --> 00:51:37,520
Speaker 2: rank it. The other thing that frustrates me is people

720
00:51:37,640 --> 00:51:41,719
Speaker 2: not caring about the data, not supporting this idea that

721
00:51:41,760 --> 00:51:44,240
Speaker 2: the Chiefs get all the calls. On the last pod,

722
00:51:44,320 --> 00:51:46,719
Speaker 2: we did the thing about how when it comes to

723
00:51:46,800 --> 00:51:50,319
Speaker 2: roughing the passer penalties, there is one quarterback head and

724
00:51:50,360 --> 00:51:52,880
Speaker 2: shoulders that gets more than anyone. It's Josh Allen and

725
00:51:52,920 --> 00:51:55,799
Speaker 2: Mahomes is middle of the pack, and that's per game,

726
00:51:55,960 --> 00:52:01,479
Speaker 2: per pass, however you do it. But the the other

727
00:52:01,520 --> 00:52:11,080
Speaker 2: thing is, and Josh debou Has of the Associated Press

728
00:52:11,680 --> 00:52:15,040
Speaker 2: has been fighting the good fight on this, which is

729
00:52:16,000 --> 00:52:22,720
Speaker 2: there is simply no data to suggest, no matter how

730
00:52:22,760 --> 00:52:29,720
Speaker 2: you isolated, that the Chiefs get some hugely beneficial whistle.

731
00:52:29,880 --> 00:52:32,560
Speaker 2: I'm not going to go through it all, but since

732
00:52:32,600 --> 00:52:35,360
Speaker 2: Malmes has been there, they are dead last in the

733
00:52:35,520 --> 00:52:40,080
Speaker 2: NFL and penalty yardage differential. People are like, oh, well,

734
00:52:40,640 --> 00:52:44,120
Speaker 2: it's about It's not that. It's just during this dynasty run.

735
00:52:44,200 --> 00:52:47,080
Speaker 2: During the last three years, the Chiefs have been penalized

736
00:52:47,080 --> 00:52:48,759
Speaker 2: for one hundred and forty seven more yards and their

737
00:52:48,800 --> 00:52:52,120
Speaker 2: opponents in the last three seasons, that's the twelfth worst.

738
00:52:52,840 --> 00:52:56,720
Speaker 2: Vikings actually have the best at their almost one thousand

739
00:52:57,360 --> 00:53:01,640
Speaker 2: fewer than their opponents than People are like, no, we're

740
00:53:01,760 --> 00:53:08,080
Speaker 2: talking about the fourth quarter or big spots. Let me

741
00:53:08,120 --> 00:53:12,840
Speaker 2: find his tweet on that one where gosh darn it,

742
00:53:12,960 --> 00:53:15,719
Speaker 2: I had it because somebody was talking about its high

743
00:53:15,840 --> 00:53:23,360
Speaker 2: leverage situations. So let me find it real quick. I apologize.

744
00:53:23,600 --> 00:53:26,200
Speaker 2: I should have pulled this up beforehand. He tweeted a

745
00:53:26,239 --> 00:53:28,400
Speaker 2: lot more than I thought he did. Maybe it's in

746
00:53:28,440 --> 00:53:33,160
Speaker 2: his replies. Okay, here it is now do third down

747
00:53:33,160 --> 00:53:37,040
Speaker 2: in the fourth quarter ups. So somebody wrote a third

748
00:53:37,080 --> 00:53:38,640
Speaker 2: down in the first quarter up seven. It is not

749
00:53:38,640 --> 00:53:40,359
Speaker 2: the same as a third down in the fourth quarter,

750
00:53:40,440 --> 00:53:44,600
Speaker 2: down three. Josha Bob the Associated Press, Chiefs opponents have

751
00:53:44,640 --> 00:53:48,279
Speaker 2: gotten four more first downs, by penalty on third and

752
00:53:48,360 --> 00:53:51,120
Speaker 2: fourth downs in the fourth quarter, in overtime in games

753
00:53:51,120 --> 00:53:54,480
Speaker 2: decided by one score or less since Mahomes got there,

754
00:53:55,080 --> 00:54:01,040
Speaker 2: and so there's just no data to support this. Uh.

755
00:54:01,400 --> 00:54:07,520
Speaker 2: But when teams are always in the biggest games, and

756
00:54:07,719 --> 00:54:13,319
Speaker 2: when we're in an era where the best quarterbacks are

757
00:54:14,440 --> 00:54:19,520
Speaker 2: hyper protected, this is you know, It's why Chiefs fans

758
00:54:19,560 --> 00:54:22,359
Speaker 2: feel like Josh Allen gets all the calls, and it's

759
00:54:22,400 --> 00:54:25,160
Speaker 2: why the rest of America feels like the Chiefs get

760
00:54:25,200 --> 00:54:28,560
Speaker 2: all the calls. My last point on the refereeing and

761
00:54:28,600 --> 00:54:33,279
Speaker 2: the biggest frustration on it there was, And this is

762
00:54:33,320 --> 00:54:38,480
Speaker 2: where I just think everyone loses their ability to fairly reason.

763
00:54:39,880 --> 00:54:45,480
Speaker 2: There was one horrific call this weekend that you can

764
00:54:45,560 --> 00:54:53,120
Speaker 2: say directly, maybe not only directly, led to points, maybe

765
00:54:53,239 --> 00:54:58,120
Speaker 2: change the entire game. And everyone is so and it

766
00:54:58,200 --> 00:55:04,640
Speaker 2: would have been the best argument to make by anyone

767
00:55:04,880 --> 00:55:08,919
Speaker 2: during all of my Lamar Jackson ranting. But people are

768
00:55:09,000 --> 00:55:14,640
Speaker 2: so used to bad calls it didn't even occur to him.

769
00:55:15,239 --> 00:55:19,000
Speaker 2: They only stick out when it involves the Chiefs. Because

770
00:55:20,160 --> 00:55:25,080
Speaker 2: the defensive pass interference penalty to Monsey against the Ravens

771
00:55:25,719 --> 00:55:29,120
Speaker 2: at the end of the first half was the worst

772
00:55:29,120 --> 00:55:33,960
Speaker 2: call of the weekend and the most impactful. It's undeniable

773
00:55:34,920 --> 00:55:39,000
Speaker 2: that was they maybe get three because of that, they

774
00:55:39,080 --> 00:55:43,040
Speaker 2: definitely got seven. It takes a fourteen maybe seventeen to

775
00:55:43,080 --> 00:55:45,560
Speaker 2: ten game to twenty one ten set at the table

776
00:55:45,560 --> 00:55:47,960
Speaker 2: for all of it. That looked to me like offensive

777
00:55:47,960 --> 00:55:52,359
Speaker 2: pass interference or a no call. They call defensive pass interference. Right.

778
00:55:53,360 --> 00:55:57,239
Speaker 2: Also in that game, Lamar got whacked on the sideline.

779
00:55:57,239 --> 00:55:58,920
Speaker 3: On the sideline, yeah, and there was.

780
00:55:59,200 --> 00:56:05,839
Speaker 2: And there was no call and if and so now

781
00:56:05,880 --> 00:56:08,680
Speaker 2: maybe it's like, okay, the the league's in the bag

782
00:56:08,760 --> 00:56:11,879
Speaker 2: for the Chiefs and the Bills, or maybe it's that

783
00:56:13,200 --> 00:56:15,600
Speaker 2: standalone games, there's gonna be a lot of bad calls

784
00:56:16,360 --> 00:56:22,480
Speaker 2: and it just irritate like that the nobody brought up

785
00:56:23,320 --> 00:56:28,080
Speaker 2: as a defense of Lamar, the bad pass interference penalty

786
00:56:28,239 --> 00:56:30,959
Speaker 2: that actually would have been a good one, Like, hey man,

787
00:56:31,080 --> 00:56:33,200
Speaker 2: even with all those mistakes, they should have just been

788
00:56:33,239 --> 00:56:36,760
Speaker 2: down four. They sustained a terrible call went against them.

789
00:56:36,800 --> 00:56:39,880
Speaker 2: But people are so tied to this narrative that no,

790
00:56:40,080 --> 00:56:42,879
Speaker 2: the bad calls only favor one team in the league,

791
00:56:42,920 --> 00:56:46,640
Speaker 2: and it's the Chiefs that like that to me, And

792
00:56:47,719 --> 00:56:53,680
Speaker 2: I thought Buck and Aikman overdid the refereeing stuff in

793
00:56:53,760 --> 00:56:56,279
Speaker 2: the Chiefs game. They were still talking about it when

794
00:56:56,280 --> 00:56:59,000
Speaker 2: it's third and eleven and mahomes to Kelsey. The greatest

795
00:56:59,000 --> 00:57:01,880
Speaker 2: playoff combination of the history of the league combines for

796
00:57:01,960 --> 00:57:05,280
Speaker 2: what is the critical touchdown. There's still, you know, upset

797
00:57:05,320 --> 00:57:07,600
Speaker 2: about the refereeing. I thought they overdid it a bit.

798
00:57:08,000 --> 00:57:11,879
Speaker 2: I thought Nance and Romo underdid it on that DPI

799
00:57:12,480 --> 00:57:20,440
Speaker 2: that dB. Yeah, I couldn't believe it. And so that

800
00:57:20,640 --> 00:57:24,000
Speaker 2: to me was, you know, that's what I'll say about

801
00:57:24,000 --> 00:57:27,160
Speaker 2: the officiating. All right, and our long A block is

802
00:57:27,200 --> 00:57:32,760
Speaker 2: pretty good. Uh, We're gonna have a much quicker B

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Speaker 2: block and answer some listener questions. Quick break right back,

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Speaker 2: All Right, Demon's that was one of our longest ay blocks.

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Speaker 2: Is there anything that I felt like, you know, sometimes

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00:59:13,800 --> 00:59:17,280
Speaker 2: you're kind of boxed out a bit, but is there

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00:59:17,280 --> 00:59:20,040
Speaker 2: anything that you wanted to chime in on on either

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00:59:20,080 --> 00:59:22,400
Speaker 2: of those four move on to the other games.

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Speaker 3: Or calling you crazy or whatever. I think that like

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00:59:29,600 --> 00:59:30,920
Speaker 3: the Chiefs this year, how.

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00:59:30,760 --> 00:59:33,640
Speaker 4: They won, and like those you call it lucky or

836
00:59:33,760 --> 00:59:36,160
Speaker 4: like the crazy fashion, just the way that the Ravens

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00:59:36,160 --> 00:59:38,320
Speaker 4: losing the postseason, even if you want to say Lamar

838
00:59:38,520 --> 00:59:41,200
Speaker 4: tapers off a little bit, it just I think it

839
00:59:41,320 --> 00:59:43,600
Speaker 4: leaves questioning a lot of people's brains because it's just

840
00:59:43,640 --> 00:59:46,640
Speaker 4: like that one little thing. It's like unlucky. It's it's

841
00:59:46,720 --> 00:59:49,560
Speaker 4: it's as opposed to lucky, it's unlucky. It's just comes

842
00:59:49,560 --> 00:59:51,800
Speaker 4: down to these one little plays. Or I get he

843
00:59:51,880 --> 00:59:53,880
Speaker 4: turned the ball over multiple times in the game, but

844
00:59:53,960 --> 00:59:55,640
Speaker 4: it's just no, still was too.

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00:59:56,040 --> 01:00:00,640
Speaker 2: Here's so here's the thing, and this is what's tough.

846
01:00:02,520 --> 01:00:08,000
Speaker 2: You you need to give yourself a bigger margin for error.

847
01:00:09,640 --> 01:00:13,160
Speaker 2: Like that's the answer. And so like people when people

848
01:00:13,160 --> 01:00:15,720
Speaker 2: bring up the Chiefs and these clothes, forget the regular

849
01:00:15,760 --> 01:00:24,280
Speaker 2: season playoff wins, right, they they've given it a lot

850
01:00:24,320 --> 01:00:30,520
Speaker 2: of those games have been close because the Chiefs made

851
01:00:30,560 --> 01:00:33,440
Speaker 2: a critical mistake, but they were good enough to have

852
01:00:33,440 --> 01:00:36,280
Speaker 2: the margin forrera. As I mentioned before, in the Super Bowl,

853
01:00:37,120 --> 01:00:41,080
Speaker 2: after the huge play to Travis, why did Travis or

854
01:00:41,320 --> 01:00:44,960
Speaker 2: was it to Travis? No, it wasn't to Travis. Who

855
01:00:45,000 --> 01:00:49,560
Speaker 2: was it to McCole I don't even remember. Regardless, the

856
01:00:49,680 --> 01:00:55,640
Speaker 2: reason Travis shoved Andy Reid was because he wasn't on

857
01:00:55,800 --> 01:00:59,560
Speaker 2: the field on the fumble inside the ten and he

858
01:00:59,680 --> 01:01:02,200
Speaker 2: felt like he would have held the block better. That's

859
01:01:02,240 --> 01:01:05,200
Speaker 2: what happened. The point I'm bringing up is in the

860
01:01:05,240 --> 01:01:08,640
Speaker 2: Super Bowl, yes it was super thin margins. The Chiefs

861
01:01:08,800 --> 01:01:12,040
Speaker 2: needed a drive to force overtime and then won in overtime,

862
01:01:14,240 --> 01:01:18,640
Speaker 2: but they had already had their terrible luck, you know,

863
01:01:18,720 --> 01:01:22,760
Speaker 2: with the fumble inside the ten in the previous in

864
01:01:22,840 --> 01:01:26,960
Speaker 2: the second round against the Bills, they run a stupid

865
01:01:27,000 --> 01:01:31,040
Speaker 2: play and McCall fumble's reach them for the pylon at

866
01:01:31,080 --> 01:01:34,280
Speaker 2: the one yard line. They had a big enough, they

867
01:01:34,320 --> 01:01:36,720
Speaker 2: already had a lead there, like you've got to build in.

868
01:01:37,360 --> 01:01:41,520
Speaker 2: It's gonna be hard to play a perfect game, and

869
01:01:41,600 --> 01:01:44,360
Speaker 2: so now some of it is just unlucky bouncers or

870
01:01:44,400 --> 01:01:48,680
Speaker 2: lucky bounces the opening kickoff of Chiefs Texans great kick

871
01:01:48,720 --> 01:01:52,560
Speaker 2: return guy fumble, We've you know, samajp Ryan fell on it.

872
01:01:52,640 --> 01:01:56,600
Speaker 2: Like that's good, that's good fortune. So yeah, some of

873
01:01:56,600 --> 01:01:59,320
Speaker 2: this stuff isn't exactly fair. All right, next, let's get

874
01:01:59,320 --> 01:02:01,240
Speaker 2: to the let's get to the other games.

875
01:02:01,800 --> 01:02:04,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, so Sirianni tried to give you the game. Jalen

876
01:02:04,800 --> 01:02:06,880
Speaker 4: Hurts also try to give you the game. He wasn't throwing.

877
01:02:06,960 --> 01:02:07,200
Speaker 3: Well.

878
01:02:07,360 --> 01:02:11,760
Speaker 4: They basically just spammed Saquon so Philly, you know, one

879
01:02:11,800 --> 01:02:15,040
Speaker 4: in dominating fashion, but still didn't look really good. Do

880
01:02:15,080 --> 01:02:16,840
Speaker 4: you think the right team won this game?

881
01:02:18,160 --> 01:02:20,520
Speaker 2: I do think the right team won. I listen, the

882
01:02:20,600 --> 01:02:23,480
Speaker 2: Rams could have stolen it, and I think Sirianni may

883
01:02:23,520 --> 01:02:27,240
Speaker 2: have been fired. I know that sounds insane, but if

884
01:02:27,240 --> 01:02:29,240
Speaker 2: they blew a thirteen point lead to go to the

885
01:02:29,320 --> 01:02:34,400
Speaker 2: NFC Championship game with four minutes left, and it was

886
01:02:34,440 --> 01:02:40,480
Speaker 2: because Okay, Jalen Hurts was not having a hor horrible game,

887
01:02:40,520 --> 01:02:43,640
Speaker 2: but he wasn't having a great game. The AJ Brown

888
01:02:43,720 --> 01:02:46,040
Speaker 2: drop hurt him. Another AJ Brown drop hurt him. Like

889
01:02:46,040 --> 01:02:49,680
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna kill Jalen Hurts. But then he got injured.

890
01:02:50,480 --> 01:02:53,720
Speaker 2: And once he got injured. He could not move, and

891
01:02:53,840 --> 01:02:59,240
Speaker 2: Sirianni saw that and on his second playback on the

892
01:02:59,280 --> 01:03:02,560
Speaker 2: field after being injured, called a drop back into his

893
01:03:02,560 --> 01:03:05,120
Speaker 2: own end zone where he's just a sitting dock and

894
01:03:05,280 --> 01:03:12,760
Speaker 2: gets safety. Despite that, they recover, Saquon goes for eighty yards.

895
01:03:12,760 --> 01:03:17,560
Speaker 2: They're up thirteen the Rams score. Now there's three minutes left.

896
01:03:17,600 --> 01:03:20,920
Speaker 2: It's second and seven. Saquan's just gone for three yards

897
01:03:21,280 --> 01:03:25,320
Speaker 2: and he caught a play action rollout with his injured,

898
01:03:25,400 --> 01:03:29,000
Speaker 2: immobile quarterback who hasn't who has not completed a big

899
01:03:29,040 --> 01:03:34,600
Speaker 2: pass in hours, and they they end up having to

900
01:03:34,680 --> 01:03:38,920
Speaker 2: punt like that, That second and seven pass call, honest

901
01:03:38,920 --> 01:03:40,720
Speaker 2: to god's one of the worst play calls I've ever

902
01:03:40,760 --> 01:03:43,680
Speaker 2: seen in my life. It's one of the worst play

903
01:03:43,680 --> 01:03:47,200
Speaker 2: calls I've ever seen in my life. And it they

904
01:03:47,400 --> 01:03:50,480
Speaker 2: because of that. All of a sudden, Stafford's inside the

905
01:03:50,480 --> 01:03:53,800
Speaker 2: twenty down six because Elliott missed the extra point like

906
01:03:54,360 --> 01:03:58,520
Speaker 2: that would have been as horrifying a loss as exists.

907
01:03:58,840 --> 01:04:01,480
Speaker 2: And aj Brown, you got to play better. For all

908
01:04:01,520 --> 01:04:05,520
Speaker 2: the I'm reading the book, I like Jalen did make

909
01:04:05,560 --> 01:04:12,560
Speaker 2: a great Yes, you're causing all this nonsense. Saquan's out

910
01:04:12,560 --> 01:04:15,440
Speaker 2: there just crushing fools. We're talking about the Eagles and

911
01:04:15,480 --> 01:04:18,280
Speaker 2: negative light because Aj Brown keeps we need to work

912
01:04:18,320 --> 01:04:21,280
Speaker 2: on passing. No, I always read books on the sideline,

913
01:04:21,680 --> 01:04:25,000
Speaker 2: like what do you sometimes I I I I take

914
01:04:25,040 --> 01:04:30,120
Speaker 2: cooking classes. Stop it and so the and it is

915
01:04:30,240 --> 01:04:33,880
Speaker 2: so in the you know, now the authors at the game,

916
01:04:33,920 --> 01:04:36,800
Speaker 2: he's getting interviewed about the book with the stop it.

917
01:04:37,480 --> 01:04:45,080
Speaker 2: Uh and so listen. The the Eagles are able to

918
01:04:45,200 --> 01:04:49,640
Speaker 2: overcome an injured quarterback and a ridiculous coach, and you

919
01:04:49,720 --> 01:04:52,120
Speaker 2: gotta give in. I you know, had some questions about

920
01:04:52,120 --> 01:04:53,920
Speaker 2: how Rosemand going into the year. You got to give

921
01:04:53,960 --> 01:04:56,600
Speaker 2: Rosemand credit. That's a hell of a roster they've built.

922
01:04:56,800 --> 01:04:59,959
Speaker 2: They have talent everywhere. But yeah, so the right team

923
01:05:00,160 --> 01:05:03,960
Speaker 2: did win. But man, oh man, you're supposed to lose

924
01:05:04,000 --> 01:05:08,520
Speaker 2: playoff games. It's really hard. Like the Rams had the

925
01:05:08,560 --> 01:05:12,360
Speaker 2: two turnovers, right, the two fumbles which let the Eagles

926
01:05:12,400 --> 01:05:18,640
Speaker 2: take control. The Eagles mental errors and coaching errors plus

927
01:05:18,680 --> 01:05:21,640
Speaker 2: a quarterback injury. It's supposed to cost you a playoff game.

928
01:05:21,880 --> 01:05:23,320
Speaker 2: All right, let's talk about Detroit.

929
01:05:24,440 --> 01:05:26,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, so last year, Dan Campbell told his team after

930
01:05:26,800 --> 01:05:28,880
Speaker 4: they lost to San Francisco that was probably gonna be

931
01:05:28,880 --> 01:05:32,160
Speaker 4: their last shot at the Super Bowl this year. They

932
01:05:32,160 --> 01:05:35,240
Speaker 4: weren't able to overcome the devastating injuries or, as you

933
01:05:35,280 --> 01:05:37,120
Speaker 4: would say, Jared Goff's tiny hands.

934
01:05:37,720 --> 01:05:41,000
Speaker 2: So, Ben, you guys were thinking it on that fumble

935
01:05:41,320 --> 01:05:43,560
Speaker 2: when that ball slipped out of his hands in the

936
01:05:43,600 --> 01:05:46,320
Speaker 2: red zone. You guys were thinking it too. Be honest,

937
01:05:46,720 --> 01:05:48,920
Speaker 2: you guys were like, oh, man, his hands killed you,

938
01:05:48,960 --> 01:05:49,880
Speaker 2: but go ahead.

939
01:05:49,840 --> 01:05:51,000
Speaker 3: Guys got small hands.

940
01:05:51,560 --> 01:05:54,400
Speaker 4: Ben Johnson is gone with Caleb Williams, and how wor

941
01:05:54,480 --> 01:05:56,240
Speaker 4: it is Aaron Klinn might be out of there too.

942
01:05:56,920 --> 01:05:59,400
Speaker 3: Do you think Campbell is right? Was? Did they officially

943
01:05:59,400 --> 01:06:01,040
Speaker 3: miss their win? Don't win the Super Bowl?

944
01:06:01,760 --> 01:06:04,040
Speaker 2: No? I don't think you're gonna say they officially missed

945
01:06:04,040 --> 01:06:06,640
Speaker 2: their window. But this year is this is just as

946
01:06:06,760 --> 01:06:10,200
Speaker 2: painful of a situation as you can imagine. I mean,

947
01:06:10,240 --> 01:06:16,320
Speaker 2: the the defensive injuries killed him. Ben Johnson, who you

948
01:06:16,320 --> 01:06:18,280
Speaker 2: know I wanted the Bears to hire, and the Bears

949
01:06:18,280 --> 01:06:22,560
Speaker 2: are hiring. I thought, you know, the silver medal for

950
01:06:22,720 --> 01:06:26,400
Speaker 2: most insane plague call of the weekend was Ben Johnson.

951
01:06:27,800 --> 01:06:29,240
Speaker 2: All right, let me just tell you guys a little

952
01:06:29,240 --> 01:06:32,680
Speaker 2: about James and Williams. Jameis and Williams got drafted by

953
01:06:32,720 --> 01:06:35,080
Speaker 2: the Lions in the first round. He was out because

954
01:06:35,120 --> 01:06:38,320
Speaker 2: of an injury in college. He then after his first

955
01:06:38,400 --> 01:06:44,000
Speaker 2: year got suspended for gambling, then after his second year

956
01:06:44,040 --> 01:06:47,960
Speaker 2: got suspended for steroids. While he was suspended for steroids,

957
01:06:48,320 --> 01:06:50,360
Speaker 2: got pulled over by the cops, had guns in the

958
01:06:50,400 --> 01:06:52,720
Speaker 2: car and was like, no, no, no, I played for

959
01:06:52,760 --> 01:06:55,560
Speaker 2: the Lions. You gotta let me go. You know. It

960
01:06:55,560 --> 01:06:59,160
Speaker 2: seems like they did let him go, and then that

961
01:06:59,280 --> 01:07:03,280
Speaker 2: story came out well. In this game, he scored a

962
01:07:03,320 --> 01:07:07,880
Speaker 2: touchdown and then pretended to have deeply passionate sex with

963
01:07:07,960 --> 01:07:11,440
Speaker 2: the end zone before the cameras pulled off. That's that's

964
01:07:11,480 --> 01:07:17,560
Speaker 2: the player he is. Okay, that's who he is. Ben

965
01:07:17,680 --> 01:07:24,400
Speaker 2: Johnson in the fourth quarter of the playoff game, at

966
01:07:24,440 --> 01:07:26,880
Speaker 2: knowing who he was going into the game and then

967
01:07:26,920 --> 01:07:34,040
Speaker 2: knowing an hour ago, this guy, I mean really aggressively

968
01:07:34,160 --> 01:07:36,760
Speaker 2: humped the end zone. You know what I think I

969
01:07:36,800 --> 01:07:42,920
Speaker 2: should do ask him to make a critical on the

970
01:07:42,960 --> 01:07:46,040
Speaker 2: fly decision about to throw a pass or not throw

971
01:07:46,080 --> 01:07:52,400
Speaker 2: a pass. I mean that that was a problem and

972
01:07:52,400 --> 01:07:54,440
Speaker 2: that lost him the game. Now maybe they would have

973
01:07:54,480 --> 01:07:58,320
Speaker 2: lost anyway, but they were down ten and scoring every

974
01:07:58,400 --> 01:08:01,400
Speaker 2: time that Golf didn't turn it over like they they

975
01:08:01,440 --> 01:08:06,480
Speaker 2: were in the game. Not the time for that, bro, No,

976
01:08:07,000 --> 01:08:11,280
Speaker 2: not the time for that. If I have like a

977
01:08:11,600 --> 01:08:16,719
Speaker 2: critical letter that needs to be delivered and I tie

978
01:08:16,760 --> 01:08:20,000
Speaker 2: it around Dexter's my dog's neck and kick him in

979
01:08:20,040 --> 01:08:22,600
Speaker 2: the ass out the door and like go boy, and

980
01:08:22,640 --> 01:08:24,960
Speaker 2: it's like, I'm in letter didn't get delivered. Is it

981
01:08:25,000 --> 01:08:30,000
Speaker 2: on him? I don't know, it's not. And so I

982
01:08:30,080 --> 01:08:36,600
Speaker 2: that was a banana's decision. And then so the defensive injuries,

983
01:08:37,120 --> 01:08:40,639
Speaker 2: golf's hat trick of turnovers that mattered in the first half,

984
01:08:41,400 --> 01:08:46,920
Speaker 2: fumble picked six where he got cracked, and then the

985
01:08:47,000 --> 01:08:51,040
Speaker 2: pick in the end zone, and then the Jamison thing.

986
01:08:52,600 --> 01:08:55,120
Speaker 2: And so I listen, I feel sick for Lions fans,

987
01:08:55,160 --> 01:09:00,000
Speaker 2: I really do. And I'm not saying it's closed for them.

988
01:08:59,840 --> 01:09:02,479
Speaker 2: I am saying there's a decent chance five years from

989
01:09:02,479 --> 01:09:04,360
Speaker 2: now we're gonna say their best shot was last year.

990
01:09:04,360 --> 01:09:08,479
Speaker 2: In this year, I think that's more than on the board.

991
01:09:08,479 --> 01:09:09,599
Speaker 2: All right, let's do Jaden.

992
01:09:10,840 --> 01:09:15,160
Speaker 4: All right, So Washington and Jaydeen Daniels surprised America dominating

993
01:09:15,200 --> 01:09:16,920
Speaker 4: the Lions. All it was a shootout, and then they

994
01:09:17,000 --> 01:09:20,080
Speaker 4: ended up pulling away with it, crazy game.

995
01:09:20,160 --> 01:09:21,880
Speaker 3: Obviously, Jayden Daniels is a rookie.

996
01:09:22,520 --> 01:09:25,880
Speaker 4: Has anyone impressed you more in the NFL than Jadeen

997
01:09:25,960 --> 01:09:29,000
Speaker 4: Daniels and this last two weeks in the NFL, this

998
01:09:29,000 --> 01:09:29,479
Speaker 4: whole year.

999
01:09:29,560 --> 01:09:33,839
Speaker 2: No. No. And I know people think I'm anti Jaden

1000
01:09:33,920 --> 01:09:35,719
Speaker 2: because I was skeptical of in coming out of college.

1001
01:09:35,800 --> 01:09:37,439
Speaker 2: I want to make this for the one hundredth time,

1002
01:09:37,640 --> 01:09:42,759
Speaker 2: very very clear. My Jaden take is a very simple one.

1003
01:09:43,160 --> 01:09:45,519
Speaker 2: I thought he was phenomenal as last year at LSU.

1004
01:09:46,360 --> 01:09:49,640
Speaker 2: I think the talent and it seems like character as

1005
01:09:49,680 --> 01:09:54,400
Speaker 2: well as off the charts. I am incredibly nervous about

1006
01:09:54,439 --> 01:09:57,160
Speaker 2: his ability to hold up long term from a health

1007
01:09:57,240 --> 01:10:01,599
Speaker 2: perspective because of his frame, how thin he is, combined

1008
01:10:01,640 --> 01:10:05,599
Speaker 2: with his style of play. That's that's the take. The

1009
01:10:05,640 --> 01:10:08,360
Speaker 2: take is not oh he's not good.

1010
01:10:08,720 --> 01:10:08,960
Speaker 3: Now.

1011
01:10:09,080 --> 01:10:12,120
Speaker 2: I was on the record Demons saying I would have

1012
01:10:12,200 --> 01:10:15,960
Speaker 2: taken Drake May ahead of him because Drake May is

1013
01:10:16,680 --> 01:10:22,040
Speaker 2: three years younger and the is sturdier. But I don't

1014
01:10:22,080 --> 01:10:25,719
Speaker 2: think he's My take on bow Nicks is low ceiling.

1015
01:10:26,040 --> 01:10:27,800
Speaker 2: I don't think he's that good. We'll see if I'm

1016
01:10:27,880 --> 01:10:30,080
Speaker 2: right about that. He had a very good rookieyear. Take

1017
01:10:30,120 --> 01:10:32,479
Speaker 2: on Jayden? Is I worry about him the way I

1018
01:10:32,560 --> 01:10:35,280
Speaker 2: worried about RG three? Go ahead, you want to say something.

1019
01:10:35,160 --> 01:10:39,559
Speaker 4: So Jane Daniels is like, Jane Daniels is five pounds

1020
01:10:39,640 --> 01:10:42,479
Speaker 4: lighter than Caleb Williams. I think Jayden Daniel's two ten

1021
01:10:43,040 --> 01:10:44,280
Speaker 4: cale Williams two fifteen.

1022
01:10:45,760 --> 01:10:46,639
Speaker 3: Is that fake news?

1023
01:10:48,320 --> 01:10:52,200
Speaker 2: Well, Jayde Daniels one ninety five, you know in college

1024
01:10:52,240 --> 01:10:56,400
Speaker 2: he's also three inches taller than Caleb. So that's the

1025
01:10:56,439 --> 01:11:00,200
Speaker 2: other thing. Lit Lawrence Slinder, So yeah it But go ahea.

1026
01:11:00,640 --> 01:11:03,720
Speaker 4: So I had a question, would a nightmare scenario be

1027
01:11:03,840 --> 01:11:07,479
Speaker 4: for you Jade and Daniels facing the Chiefs in the

1028
01:11:07,520 --> 01:11:11,439
Speaker 4: Super Bowl? Jayde Daniels poticially beats Patrick Maholmes to stop

1029
01:11:11,479 --> 01:11:15,040
Speaker 4: the three pete you're hyping up. Jade Daniels is exactly

1030
01:11:15,120 --> 01:11:16,840
Speaker 4: who you described Caleb Williams to.

1031
01:11:16,760 --> 01:11:20,840
Speaker 2: Be, I know. So that's what's crazy. So and I listen,

1032
01:11:20,920 --> 01:11:24,320
Speaker 2: I'm not anti Jaden, but it is he's living the

1033
01:11:24,360 --> 01:11:27,000
Speaker 2: life that I thought Caleb would be living right now. Yes,

1034
01:11:27,200 --> 01:11:31,080
Speaker 2: and by the way, listen, ultimate spind zone is this

1035
01:11:31,160 --> 01:11:40,920
Speaker 2: demanse if in If I were to say to you,

1036
01:11:41,000 --> 01:11:52,880
Speaker 2: listen a massive meteor massive is gonna hit Argentina in

1037
01:11:52,960 --> 01:11:57,280
Speaker 2: twenty twenty seven, and everyone's like, no way, it's never happened,

1038
01:11:58,200 --> 01:12:04,320
Speaker 2: It never would never happen. Everyone's like, you're crazy. Seven

1039
01:12:05,680 --> 01:12:12,320
Speaker 2: a massive meteor hits Brazil. Am I dead wrong? Or

1040
01:12:12,320 --> 01:12:16,200
Speaker 2: am I more right than anyone? If all off season

1041
01:12:16,280 --> 01:12:21,519
Speaker 2: I said, an NFC rookie quarterback is going to meet

1042
01:12:21,560 --> 01:12:25,240
Speaker 2: Patrick Mahomes in the Super Bowl, and everyone's like, you're crazy,

1043
01:12:25,720 --> 01:12:29,760
Speaker 2: rookie's never been there, conference stacked, whatever it is. And

1044
01:12:29,800 --> 01:12:34,960
Speaker 2: then in February, an NFC rookie quarterback meets Patrick Mahomes

1045
01:12:35,040 --> 01:12:37,599
Speaker 2: in the Super Bowl, but it was just the number

1046
01:12:37,680 --> 01:12:39,559
Speaker 2: two pick instead of the number one pick. Am I

1047
01:12:39,680 --> 01:12:42,479
Speaker 2: wrong or am I more right than anyone? It's just

1048
01:12:42,520 --> 01:12:47,640
Speaker 2: a question people are asking, Uh, listen, Jaden's been unbelievable,

1049
01:12:48,200 --> 01:12:53,200
Speaker 2: and the top four quarterbacks in football Demonse Mahomes, Alan

1050
01:12:53,240 --> 01:12:58,960
Speaker 2: Borough lamore that fifth spot. It's like seven guys. You

1051
01:12:59,000 --> 01:13:02,800
Speaker 2: could argue. At various points over the last year and

1052
01:13:02,840 --> 01:13:05,639
Speaker 2: a half, people have argued the following names, just running

1053
01:13:05,640 --> 01:13:15,720
Speaker 2: through them, Dak Stafford, Purty, Love Hurts, Herbert.

1054
01:13:14,240 --> 01:13:17,240
Speaker 3: Over all those names you just listed easily.

1055
01:13:17,360 --> 01:13:24,040
Speaker 2: That's except that's what I'm that's what I'm making a case. Yeah, No,

1056
01:13:24,920 --> 01:13:27,839
Speaker 2: Jaden's already got playoffs.

1057
01:13:27,960 --> 01:13:30,760
Speaker 4: It's just talking about like the skill set. But yeah,

1058
01:13:30,800 --> 01:13:34,519
Speaker 4: he's he's different and he's calm. It's like he's been

1059
01:13:34,520 --> 01:13:35,040
Speaker 4: here before.

1060
01:13:35,920 --> 01:13:41,760
Speaker 2: But there's no question about him. Uh, you're absolutely right.

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Speaker 2: The only dip he had all year was when he

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Speaker 2: got banged up. So he's been unbelievable. And we'll talk

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Speaker 2: more about that game this weekend. All right, quick break

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Speaker 2: answers a few listener questions. Uh, and I gotta go soon,

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Speaker 2: so we'll just answer a few quick break right back,

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Speaker 2: What's right? All right, welcome back in What's Right with

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Speaker 2: Nick right demonte ask these three listener questions, and I

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Speaker 2: got to.

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Speaker 4: Run Casey Colossal not named Mahomes. Which quarterback would you

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Speaker 4: like to start a franchise.

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Speaker 2: With Allen the I would? I mean it would for me,

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Speaker 2: it would, Yeah, it would be Alan. Uh, and that's

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Speaker 2: a pretty easy question. The Burrow Burrows the only other

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Speaker 2: one that I would have a real strong argument for.

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Speaker 2: But Allen's the most maybe the most durable player in

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Speaker 2: the league, and Joe's not. I know Joe was held

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Speaker 2: up this year, but so that that one's that one's

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Speaker 2: super easy.

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Speaker 4: Next, mister Brownstone, is Jade Daniels already a better quarterback

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Speaker 4: than Lamar Jackson all the running ability but the ability

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Speaker 4: to pass.

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Speaker 2: No, So that no, So that's what I think way

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Speaker 2: too far, because here's the thing. There is real obvious

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Speaker 2: tangible value, obvious tangible value to Lamar being an a

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Speaker 2: triple plus in the regular season, even if he never

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Speaker 2: improves in the postseason. If this is who he is

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Speaker 2: the rest of his career, the odds are they'll win

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Speaker 2: a Super Bowl anyway. That you know that, and so

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Speaker 2: the and Jaden right, but also now listen if Jaden,

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Speaker 2: if if Jaden is here's why I would prompt the brakes.

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Speaker 2: I feel like a lot of people were saying something

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Speaker 2: similar last year about CJ and maybe even Jordan Love, like,

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Speaker 2: oh man, look at all this, you know, young guy,

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Speaker 2: instant bactability progression in this league is not linear. And

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Speaker 2: this is also when people are talking about the thin

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Speaker 2: margins you were talking about with the Ravens Demonsey. There's

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Speaker 2: also this Jayden's been unbelievable. If the Bucks rookie center

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Speaker 2: doesn't screw up the snap count with two minutes left

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Speaker 2: in round one. We probably don't get any of this

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Speaker 2: from Jayden. It doesn't make him any you know what

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Speaker 2: I mean? Like that, that's how thin he's youre. They

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Speaker 2: ended up selling for a field goal. Jayden then drove

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Speaker 2: the field and then we saw that unbelievable game against

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Speaker 2: Detroit right last one.

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Speaker 4: Eric garn says there's a case for Harball being responsible

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Speaker 4: for a game plan that did not focus on the

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Speaker 4: rushing attack.

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Speaker 3: How do you not leverage the King Henry rushing attack?

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Speaker 2: Listen? They Lamar only threw the ball twenty five times.

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Speaker 2: I think the real criticism is they should have Lamar

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Speaker 2: should have run more. Henry had sixteen carries. That's not enough,

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Speaker 2: but they were behind. Justice Hill though had a half

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Speaker 2: dozen carries, and he was electric when he got him.

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Speaker 2: My frustration with that is, I think it's very very

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Speaker 2: telling when folks all throughout the regular season are like,

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Speaker 2: this guy is the MVP, and then when that team

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Speaker 2: loses in the playoffs, they're like, why did they give

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Speaker 2: the MVP the ball so much? They should have given

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Speaker 2: to someone else. That's all all right, I've got to

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Speaker 2: do Colin in about an hour, very excited to hear

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Speaker 2: the latest reason why Jmack thinks the Chiefs actually won't

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Speaker 2: win when they just keep winning, and argue with Colin

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Speaker 2: that the Chiefs should be ahead of the Bills in

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Speaker 2: the hierarchy. I will see you guys on First Things

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Speaker 2: versus Three. Good job, Demnse, Good job Blue Duck. Talk

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