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Speaker 1: Free and Out podcast Tuesday Morning might be listenings on Wednesday.

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Speaker 1: Just watch the Monday night football game, have some thoughts

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Speaker 1: but I'll give what I took away from this game

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Speaker 1: and really from their season. Daniel Jones is who he

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Speaker 1: Fly around the NFL. Derrick Henry looks like potentially out

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Speaker 1: for the season. Carson Wentz blows the game in overtime,

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Speaker 1: the game. And I think sometimes I think we're overthinking

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Speaker 1: this a little bit. Like if you're a little overweight,

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Speaker 1: your bank account. Right, some basic things in life we

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Speaker 1: just overthink. Yet we'll complain about and we'll freak out about.

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Speaker 1: This team sucks. What is going on with the Chiefs.

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Speaker 1: It's over the dynasty. Everyone keeps saying that the dynasty

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Speaker 1: is over. Here's what I know. And I watched the

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Speaker 1: I didn't I don't have these numbers in front of me,

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Speaker 1: There is a reason if you play football Peewee's. I

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Speaker 1: One thing that coaches consistently say on a daily basis turnovers, turnovers, turnovers.

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Speaker 1: Defensive coaches talk about wanting turnovers. Offensive coaches talk about

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Speaker 1: not committing turnovers. Head coaches talk about winning the turnover battle,

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Speaker 1: because if you win the turnover battle, you in games.

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Speaker 1: very difficult. And right now, for all the hoopla about

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Speaker 1: for several years. Mahomes, is he regressing? Here's what I know.

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Speaker 1: Minimum twenty eight teams wouldn't even flinch, would do anything

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Speaker 1: I don't care if you're playing the Giants or you're

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Speaker 1: feels like, right now, the Chiefs have just lost some

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Speaker 1: gonna be a lot of, you know, noise about firing

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Speaker 1: Dave Gettleman. That's an easy thing. Dave Gettleman never should

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Speaker 1: Chiefs thing let's not overthink this. When you have a

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Speaker 1: right in a Super Bowl they alwa scored three points,

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Speaker 1: but it's not like they lost three. They lost thirteen

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Speaker 1: I don't know, Listen, it's hard to find pass rushers

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Speaker 1: the Rams bold move, It'll be interesting how they use

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Speaker 1: them again. He's banged up in his name? Is it's this?

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Speaker 1: To me? This move is so synonymous, like with the NBA,

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Speaker 1: well kind of you know these guys are shot now?

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Speaker 1: I don't know, Like did the Rams this to me?

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Speaker 1: Nodell Beckham, Well, if he makes fifteen million dollars a year,

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Speaker 1: the greatest running backs in the history of the league.

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Speaker 1: So you removed that guy from this team. And even

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Speaker 1: though A. J. Brown's a star, I know Julio is

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Speaker 1: banged up, but you know, Tanny Hill, they can pass

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Speaker 1: the ball. But if you look at some of their

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Speaker 1: wins this year, he created them. He did it. I'll

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Speaker 1: never forget the Seattle game when they came back, it

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Speaker 1: was because of him. He is not your typical running back.

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Speaker 1: So to just think that they're going to be able

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Speaker 1: to overcome this now, they still are going to make

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Speaker 1: the playoffs winning that game yesterday. Basically, unless they have

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Speaker 1: an all time you know fall apart end of the season,

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Speaker 1: they're gonna win the division. They've already beat the Colt

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Speaker 1: twice there three games. Right now, technically they're the number

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Speaker 1: one seed in the a f C. But I think

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Speaker 1: that shows you it's pretty wide open, like they're gonna

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Speaker 1: make the playoffs. But could they have made noise in

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Speaker 1: the playoffs? Hell, they did a couple of years ago

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Speaker 1: when they beat the Patriots. Uh, then they beat the

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Speaker 1: Ravens because this guy was running for like a hundred

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Speaker 1: nine yards a game and he's the only guy in

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Speaker 1: the NFL that you go, yeah, this guy can run

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Speaker 1: for two in the yards a game. Everyone knows he's

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Speaker 1: getting the ball, everyone knows where it's going, and it

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Speaker 1: doesn't matter. Now he might stop him a couple of times,

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Speaker 1: but he can have and even yesterday I think his

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Speaker 1: line was like or sixty eight or something. Sometimes he

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Speaker 1: has those games and he got hurt yesterday. Well, if

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Speaker 1: he doesn't get hurt, maybe he goes thirty for a

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Speaker 1: buck thirty because he ends up busting that forty fifty

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Speaker 1: yard touchdown. And then it just breaks your back because

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Speaker 1: you go, we have done everything to stop this massive

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Speaker 1: human being and we've succeeded. And then one single snap

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Speaker 1: he'll run an outside zone. It'll be a crease, he'll

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Speaker 1: make the linebacker safety miss the other guy. He'll get

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Speaker 1: to the angle and it's just faster than him. So

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Speaker 1: losing that guy, especially having a foot injury, be one thing.

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Speaker 1: If he had broke his hand right or had you know, like, uh,

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Speaker 1: something happened to his abdominal. I don't know, some upper body,

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Speaker 1: but his What what makes Derrick Henry so special is

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Speaker 1: not his size. He's not running guys over, watching Adrian

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Speaker 1: Peterson in his peak. He's probably the last running back

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Speaker 1: who was truly it looks like a high school or

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Speaker 1: a college kid lowering his shoulder on contact and trucking linebackers.

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Speaker 1: That does not happen. Kamara's the McCaffrey's like those type players.

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Speaker 1: They're in space, they're making things happen. Most NFL running

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Speaker 1: backs are not low. I mean, you lower your shoulder.

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Speaker 1: Zeke does it too, but you try to make a

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Speaker 1: guy missed. You try to get on a guy's angle.

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Speaker 1: What makes this guy so special is his feet. He

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Speaker 1: has elite feet, and now one of his foots broken,

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Speaker 1: you know, or whatever it is, and that's a that's

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Speaker 1: a major problem for a team that has got to

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Speaker 1: six and two. We all talked about how crappy their

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Speaker 1: past defense is, but they figured it out. I think

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Speaker 1: Rabel is a really good coach, and it's just hard

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Speaker 1: to go from Derrick Henry in the peak of his

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Speaker 1: powers to Adrian Peterson who's like forty years old again

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Speaker 1: was I mean, it's great shape who has actually played

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Speaker 1: well and later on in his in his age, but

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Speaker 1: he's never actually been a great zone runner. Um, So

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Speaker 1: it's not a great fit. But there they are somewhat desperate.

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Speaker 1: I I can't imagine they don't have a couple of

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Speaker 1: guys on the practice squad or they couldn't claim a guy.

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Speaker 1: But it it rattles you. I mean it's for them.

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Speaker 1: It's not quite losing the quarterback, because if you lose

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Speaker 1: your quarterback, I don't even care if you have Derrick Henry,

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Speaker 1: Julio Jones and A. J. Brown. If this happened in

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Speaker 1: tanney Hill and he was out for basically the season

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Speaker 1: or potentially ten weeks, that they would be in major trouble.

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Speaker 1: You go, you think you should be able to overcome it.

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Speaker 1: But I think this is the one team where it

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Speaker 1: does just become pretty difficult. It really does, and that sucks.

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Speaker 1: It's just a fan of football as someone who loves

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Speaker 1: watching running backs play. Uh, that one hurt, you know,

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Speaker 1: that's that's a pretty big blow. And then on the

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Speaker 1: flip side, i'd of winning that game was the Colts.

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Speaker 1: And one of the main stories I can pump the

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Speaker 1: brakes on one thing is everyone we'll get to the

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Speaker 1: overtime interception, but the interception he threw at the end

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Speaker 1: of regulation with under two minutes to go in his

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Speaker 1: own end zone. Everyone on social media was shooting on

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Speaker 1: Carson Wentz. Well, if he hadn't thrown a pick six

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Speaker 1: and he had taken a safety, the game would have

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Speaker 1: been over. If he had taken a safety, then they

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Speaker 1: punt to the Titans. They had two time outs left,

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Speaker 1: but there was a buck twenty six on the on

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Speaker 1: the clock, So even if they called two time outs,

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Speaker 1: by the time they get it to one fifteen, they

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Speaker 1: run that bad boy to like thirty seconds and then

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Speaker 1: they punished. There's no way they could get down the

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Speaker 1: field and score touchdown. It would have been over. So

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Speaker 1: in a weird way, he had no choice when he's

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Speaker 1: getting tackled in the end zone. Like to me, that

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Speaker 1: one's on the head coach to run a screen backed

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Speaker 1: up in your own end zone. Too much can go

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Speaker 1: wrong because when you run a screen, you just let

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Speaker 1: guys go by as offensive lineman. Right, you hit him

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Speaker 1: and then he kind of gets a free rush of

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Speaker 1: the quarterback. And if you watch that play when Carson,

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Speaker 1: the other guy kind of comes free who they tried

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Speaker 1: to block his running back or maybe it was his

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Speaker 1: tight end. However, the screen was set up, he was covered,

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Speaker 1: so he had nowhere to go. He was fucked I mean,

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Speaker 1: he legitimately was absolutely screwed, and everyone's like, this is

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Speaker 1: the worst interception I've ever seen. What the hell is

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Speaker 1: he supposed to do? Now the one and overtime in

533
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Speaker 1: a tie game, you have the ball. They both pointed

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Speaker 1: back to each other that was a bad pick, and

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Speaker 1: that obviously cost him the game and potentially their season

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Speaker 1: because they win that game all of a sudden there

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Speaker 1: four and four. I think their next two games. I

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Speaker 1: talked about it last week on the podcast, like Jacksonville

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Speaker 1: and some other crappy team, they would have been six

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Speaker 1: and four. They would have been right back in the

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Speaker 1: mix whis splitting with Tennessee and that that one hurts,

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Speaker 1: it really does. And the pick, he had only had

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Speaker 1: one pick coming into that game. But I do not

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Speaker 1: put the first pick like, I don't overreact to that

545
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Speaker 1: one because when you really put the context around what's

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Speaker 1: happening in that situation where they are on the field,

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Speaker 1: and if he gets sacked, it's like, oh, I got

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Speaker 1: sacked at the thirty yard line. He's getting sacked in

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Speaker 1: the end zone. Last time I check. You know, the

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00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:05,760
Speaker 1: referees put their hands over their head and that's two points,

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Speaker 1: and they get the ball back. And I'm not saying

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Speaker 1: he's even thinking that, but he was desperate. He had

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Speaker 1: no choice. But then one in overtime, what was crippling.

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Speaker 1: And if you thought, if you think about it, if

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Speaker 1: the Colts had won that game, let's say Wentz drives

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Speaker 1: him down because never forget he throws the pick. At

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Speaker 1: the end of regulation, they get the ball back, he

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Speaker 1: drives him down the field and they score a touchdown,

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Speaker 1: so they win that game there four and four, and

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Speaker 1: then the Titans are losing Henry, and instead of them

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Speaker 1: being six and two, their five and three. All of

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Speaker 1: a sudden, you go, God, is this division kind of

563
00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:37,960
Speaker 1: up for graps? I think we would have been saying that.

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Speaker 1: So it's crazy how a lost plus an injury. It's

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Speaker 1: the narrative, and rightfully so to me, the word narrative,

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Speaker 1: like most narratives are true. Most narratives are what's actually happening.

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Speaker 1: It's what we're saying, it's what humans are talking about.

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Speaker 1: Narratives in society, you know, the media loves using that

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Speaker 1: term like it's some negative thing, like yeah, most of

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Speaker 1: them get created, like Carson Wentz forever, there's just narrative.

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Speaker 1: He's turned over prom Yeah, because there's a lot of turnovers.

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00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:06,280
Speaker 1: You know, that's that's a fact. You know. So that

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Speaker 1: that game was pretty bad, chick crazy, it really was.

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Speaker 1: And the other game that was just nuts, and I

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00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:16,439
Speaker 1: mean nuts is Mike White beating the Bengals. And it

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Speaker 1: just shows you there's a reason good teams consistently win.

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Speaker 1: You know, there's a culture with the Steelers, with the Ravens,

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Speaker 1: you know, now with the Rams, with Seattle Forever with

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Speaker 1: Russell Wilson. Right, because winning isn't just about like anyone

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Speaker 1: think about, like if you've played high school football or

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Speaker 1: high school sports, let alone, if you play college sports

582
00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:42,040
Speaker 1: or in the pros, it's easy to get up playing

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Speaker 1: a really good team. Like I know in high school

584
00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:46,400
Speaker 1: when we would play a team with like two guys

585
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Speaker 1: like that guy is going to play for Pete Carroll

586
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Speaker 1: at USC and they got three other Division one guys.

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00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:54,320
Speaker 1: It's a big deal. But if you're in college and

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Speaker 1: you're playing Ohio State or you're playing Alabama or you're

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00:28:57,440 --> 00:29:00,120
Speaker 1: playing Oregon and you're just you know, a middle of

590
00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:03,520
Speaker 1: the road Power five program, you're gonna give them everything

591
00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:05,200
Speaker 1: you have. Now it might not be good enough, but

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Speaker 1: it's easy that week to get up for. I remember

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Speaker 1: when I worked at President State, when we played Wisconsin,

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00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:13,920
Speaker 1: when we would play you know, any Power five program,

595
00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:17,000
Speaker 1: we played Illinois, we played Rutgers. It was like that

596
00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:20,200
Speaker 1: was our super Bowl, right or Boyse State that we

597
00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:22,840
Speaker 1: didn't always win the games, but that week in practice,

598
00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:25,280
Speaker 1: you didn't have to give some like you know new

599
00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:28,600
Speaker 1: Rockney speech at the beginning of the week. Right, it's easy.

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Speaker 1: When I was in the NFL, you play Monday night football,

601
00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:33,600
Speaker 1: you play Sunday night football, you play defending champs, you

602
00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:36,040
Speaker 1: play Tom Brady, you play Paid Manning, like everyone fucking

603
00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:39,120
Speaker 1: knows it's a big game. But when you play crappy teams,

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Speaker 1: I mean a team that's just is this a two

605
00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:44,120
Speaker 1: win team? Like when you play the Lions, when you

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Speaker 1: play the Texans, when you play the Jets, Like we're humans, right,

607
00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:51,800
Speaker 1: These players are humans. Hell, these coaches are humans. Coaches

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00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:54,760
Speaker 1: are less likely to overlook anything because it's their job

609
00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:57,760
Speaker 1: as their mindset, but players, for sure, you can't help.

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Speaker 1: But just it's you know, Belichick has been doing this

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Speaker 1: for years. They'll play a terrible team, you know, especially

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Speaker 1: like now November and December and the team will be

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Speaker 1: like one in eleven or you know, three in ten,

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Speaker 1: and they'll be like, you know, they got the best

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Speaker 1: special teams I've ever seen. And you look at some

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Speaker 1: of their wide receivers and any given game they can

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Speaker 1: score three touchdowns. You look at this actually like build

618
00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:19,560
Speaker 1: they have a total of three touchdowns combined. But he

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Speaker 1: can just he tricks himself because then he has to

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Speaker 1: tell the team. He doesn't have to do that when

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Speaker 1: they're playing you know, when you're playing Mahomes right now,

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Speaker 1: that's now they're playing Josh Allen, Like, he doesn't have

623
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Speaker 1: to give those speeches. But when you play really bad teams,

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Speaker 1: it's hard to be totally locked in. And then when

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Speaker 1: you factor in like I know, he's not a star

626
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Speaker 1: quarterback because he was statistically the worst rookie. He's actually

627
00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:43,040
Speaker 1: was the worst quarterback in the league, and he's a rookie,

628
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Speaker 1: but you get Mike White, so god, they got their

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Speaker 1: back up there. They're already terrible, and then their backup

630
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Speaker 1: quarterbacks coming in. We just beat the crap out of

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Speaker 1: the Ravens. We're gonna destroy these guys. And that to

632
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Speaker 1: me is where the Bengals like there are no lock

633
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Speaker 1: to make the playoffs. But they're just not because they're

634
00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:01,320
Speaker 1: gonna be up, been down. They got a young team,

635
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Speaker 1: they've never experienced success. I'd say this all the time

636
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Speaker 1: about admiring successful people that's still grind every day. Like

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Speaker 1: Elon Musk, he just works his ass off. Tom Brady

638
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Speaker 1: never stopped. Why are they still working so hard? They

639
00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:17,400
Speaker 1: have unlimited money, they have unlimited success. It's so easy

640
00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:20,120
Speaker 1: to work, Like I've been fired. It was easy that

641
00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:22,280
Speaker 1: next year to figure it out. Like it was like,

642
00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:25,320
Speaker 1: I don't have a choice, right, I've never just been

643
00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:27,040
Speaker 1: a guy like looking the bank and see a hundred

644
00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:29,520
Speaker 1: million dollars. Am I getting out of bed every morning

645
00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:32,640
Speaker 1: at six am. It's it's easy when you don't have much.

646
00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:35,600
Speaker 1: It's just harder. In theory, it should be way harder.

647
00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:38,120
Speaker 1: It's why most people kind of, you know, don't have

648
00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:40,560
Speaker 1: the Eventually you just kind of pull off the throttle.

649
00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:43,920
Speaker 1: And it's what was so expressive about the Patriots forever.

650
00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:46,560
Speaker 1: But part of that was Bellijick and Brady. They never stopped,

651
00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:48,840
Speaker 1: and then they created the culture. The Bengals just kind

652
00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:50,840
Speaker 1: of start feeling yourself. We're like, we're gonna go kill

653
00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:53,440
Speaker 1: the Jets. All of a sudden, Mike White looks like

654
00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:56,760
Speaker 1: you know, he looks like Joe Burrow, and you find

655
00:31:56,800 --> 00:31:58,800
Speaker 1: yourself in trouble. Now. I know there was a terrible

656
00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:01,680
Speaker 1: you know, a penalty in that game where they called

657
00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:04,000
Speaker 1: a penalty on the Bengals should have been on the Jets,

658
00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:06,440
Speaker 1: but still like they were already in a position where

659
00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:09,240
Speaker 1: you should beat them by fifteen points. I just saw

660
00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:11,200
Speaker 1: how good you were. I saw you play the Ravens

661
00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:14,000
Speaker 1: and you destroyed them, and then you play the Jets,

662
00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:16,720
Speaker 1: and listen, they can say whatever they want. There is

663
00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:20,960
Speaker 1: no chance on God's green Earth that the players on

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Speaker 1: that team. And I don't even necessarily blame them like

665
00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:26,400
Speaker 1: I I don't. I'm not acting like morally superior, like

666
00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:28,480
Speaker 1: if I was in their shoes at three years old

667
00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:30,800
Speaker 1: and I was kind of feeling myself. You know, I'm

668
00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:33,240
Speaker 1: not gonna watch as much film this week and take

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00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:35,880
Speaker 1: my girl out for dinner. I'm gonna hang with the boys,

670
00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:38,120
Speaker 1: I'm gonna play some two K I'm gonna do whatever

671
00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:41,600
Speaker 1: I want. Because I guarantee you this, that Ravens week,

672
00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:45,600
Speaker 1: every single guy maximized every minute leading into that week

673
00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:50,120
Speaker 1: of preparation of focus right again, back with what I said.

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00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:53,480
Speaker 1: It's easy to be focused when you're taking on a

675
00:32:53,520 --> 00:32:55,760
Speaker 1: goliath and you view yourself at David and you think

676
00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:58,160
Speaker 1: you're pretty talented. It's another thing when you're like, are

677
00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:00,200
Speaker 1: we kind of glass? And then all of a and

678
00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:02,520
Speaker 1: David hit you in the mouth and it's too late

679
00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:05,240
Speaker 1: and you lose the game. Now, luckily you know they're

680
00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:07,880
Speaker 1: not you know, five, they're still five and three. They

681
00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:10,400
Speaker 1: play the Browns this week, who are also in shambles.

682
00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:12,360
Speaker 1: So now you're getting a Bengals team that like still

683
00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:14,360
Speaker 1: thinks they're pretty good, but you're getting a team the

684
00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:16,440
Speaker 1: Browns are gonna be just desperate. I mean, their seasons

685
00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:18,240
Speaker 1: kind of on the line. We talked about last week,

686
00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:21,440
Speaker 1: you know that final six game stretch of the Browns,

687
00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:23,240
Speaker 1: Like if they don't win this game, like the playoffs

688
00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:25,960
Speaker 1: are bye bye, no Moss, it would be over. And

689
00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:30,320
Speaker 1: we'll talk about them probably on the podcast for Friday. Uh,

690
00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:32,840
Speaker 1: kind of dive into that game. But they have more

691
00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:35,000
Speaker 1: on the line than the Bengals. So can the Bengals

692
00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:39,280
Speaker 1: max their pure desperation because the Bengals had it. Desperation

693
00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:41,360
Speaker 1: will be the wrong word, but they had a focus

694
00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:44,280
Speaker 1: and a hunger against the Ravens, and they they didn't

695
00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:46,120
Speaker 1: have it against the Jets. And the Mike White story

696
00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:48,160
Speaker 1: is cool, you know, And I say this all the

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00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:53,760
Speaker 1: time about you know, backup quarterbacks. I think Tomlin said, uh,

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00:33:54,040 --> 00:33:57,280
Speaker 1: you know on Sean McVeigh with Peter Schrager over the summer.

699
00:33:57,320 --> 00:33:59,320
Speaker 1: He went on the podcast and I think he said,

700
00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:01,640
Speaker 1: Bonnie Kiffin taught him this, or maybe Dick Lebo taught

701
00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:04,200
Speaker 1: him this when he was a young coach. That, like,

702
00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:08,160
Speaker 1: you know, coaching anyone on any given game, if if

703
00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:10,319
Speaker 1: you're a coach worth your salt, can get a B

704
00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:13,200
Speaker 1: player to play or get a C player to play

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00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:15,919
Speaker 1: at a B level any game, like you could take

706
00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:18,320
Speaker 1: a star player, right, I can take Jalen Ramsey, I

707
00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:21,440
Speaker 1: can take Khalil Mack. I could take Davante Adams and

708
00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:24,480
Speaker 1: one game situation, these guys are still pros, and I

709
00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:27,000
Speaker 1: could get a really good game out of a backup.

710
00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:29,759
Speaker 1: But you cannot. They're just not good enough. And it's

711
00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:32,600
Speaker 1: impossible to even coach this to maintain that like C

712
00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:34,919
Speaker 1: minus player, to make him play at a B plus level.

713
00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:36,400
Speaker 1: You can do it one week. Hell, you might be

714
00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:38,080
Speaker 1: able to do it two weeks, but you can't really

715
00:34:38,080 --> 00:34:40,520
Speaker 1: do it for two months, right. That's why once a

716
00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:43,839
Speaker 1: starting player of a high caliber guy goes out, if

717
00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:46,879
Speaker 1: he misses the season, you're in trouble. I e. Derrick Henry.

718
00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:49,879
Speaker 1: But the hard part about coaching is to get your

719
00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:53,600
Speaker 1: top players to do it consistently over and over? Can

720
00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:56,000
Speaker 1: I get elite Joe Burrow? Can I get elite Jamaar Chase?

721
00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:59,800
Speaker 1: Can I get elite Joe Mixon every single game? Be?

722
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:02,680
Speaker 1: It's just difficult. And I saw Dabbo had a good

723
00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:05,640
Speaker 1: rant like last week, Like anything that happens on the

724
00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:10,080
Speaker 1: field personnel wise is on me. Every single guy that

725
00:35:10,120 --> 00:35:12,759
Speaker 1: goes on the field for every single play is ultimately

726
00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:16,040
Speaker 1: my decision. And you know you're either coaching are allowing

727
00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:17,960
Speaker 1: to happen. And listen. I listened to Zach Taylor last

728
00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:20,160
Speaker 1: week with Colin. He was impressive. It seems like a

729
00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:22,960
Speaker 1: really smart guy. But he's also a young coach. He's

730
00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:25,600
Speaker 1: never been through that, so it's it's it was kind

731
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Speaker 1: of predictable, even though who in their right mind would

732
00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:30,120
Speaker 1: have bet on the Bengals to win out right? But

733
00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:32,239
Speaker 1: looking back, like oh, I could have seen that you know,

734
00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:34,280
Speaker 1: I know stuck, he loved the Jets in that spot

735
00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:36,560
Speaker 1: plus ten and a half, and even I thought, I

736
00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:39,080
Speaker 1: was like, you know, I don't know, the Jets suck.

737
00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:41,719
Speaker 1: And then once when you're watching the game, just on

738
00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:44,080
Speaker 1: red zone, I was like, he was, oh, yeah, this

739
00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:50,000
Speaker 1: is this makes perfect sense. The other two teams yesterday

740
00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:52,359
Speaker 1: that just you talk about culture, and you talk about

741
00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:56,120
Speaker 1: teams that have guys that can handle the ebbs and

742
00:35:56,160 --> 00:35:59,319
Speaker 1: flows two seasons. They can handle winning just like they

743
00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:03,400
Speaker 1: can handle using right handling losing. Like you know, that's

744
00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:06,600
Speaker 1: why losing teams stay losing. They just get a losing culture.

745
00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:09,200
Speaker 1: Some of it is like the Lions is aren't good enough, right,

746
00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:11,880
Speaker 1: The Texans just aren't good enough. They're not necessarily losing

747
00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:15,319
Speaker 1: because their culture sucks. They have shitty players. But you

748
00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:18,080
Speaker 1: know the Belichick the Patriots lost a couple of games

749
00:36:18,120 --> 00:36:20,200
Speaker 1: and you're like, you know, are they really gonna get

750
00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:22,759
Speaker 1: this together? They got a rookie quarterback, but they still

751
00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:25,480
Speaker 1: got mccordy, they still got Slater, they still got high

752
00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:27,520
Speaker 1: Tower is probably not the same guy. Same thing with

753
00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:29,880
Speaker 1: the Steelers, like you know, Roethlisberger and I was guilty.

754
00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:32,120
Speaker 1: I was like he's old. You know, he doesn't have

755
00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:35,000
Speaker 1: it anymore. It's gonna be tough. But what do they have.

756
00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:37,680
Speaker 1: They have make a Fitzpatrick who's been there for a while.

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00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:38,920
Speaker 1: They have t. J. Watter who has been there for

758
00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:42,720
Speaker 1: a while. Ben's been there forever. Uh, you know, even Naji,

759
00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:46,080
Speaker 1: while a rookie, comes from a program that just expects

760
00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:48,719
Speaker 1: to win every single time, every single snap of every

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00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:51,560
Speaker 1: single game. Right, So they have very high standards in

762
00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:54,719
Speaker 1: that building, and when things get a little rocky, you

763
00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:58,960
Speaker 1: can't count out championship level mindset. Now, obviously Belichick is

764
00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:01,279
Speaker 1: one a lot more in Tomlin. But listen, there's a

765
00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:03,759
Speaker 1: reason Tomlin has never gone under five hundred. This it's

766
00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:07,680
Speaker 1: not it's not tolerated there. They they're not losers. You know,

767
00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:11,800
Speaker 1: even their worst season of all time, when Roethlisberger towards elbow,

768
00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:14,239
Speaker 1: with Duck Hodges and Mason Rudolph, they still found a

769
00:37:14,239 --> 00:37:15,600
Speaker 1: way to go eight and eate. That's one of the

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00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:18,560
Speaker 1: most remarkable seasons I've ever seen. And then last year

771
00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:21,160
Speaker 1: with old Ben, you know, they were hosting a playoff

772
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Speaker 1: game against the Browns. We want they won the division, right,

773
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Speaker 1: the Steelers. That's that's pretty damn impressive. And then the

774
00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:31,640
Speaker 1: Patriots to play the Chargers, who, like in theory, the

775
00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:35,040
Speaker 1: Chargers should be much better. They have a huge advantage

776
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Speaker 1: at quarterback. There's not a soul, including Belichick, who would

777
00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:42,239
Speaker 1: take Mac Jones over Herbert. You factor in Bossa, your

778
00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:44,920
Speaker 1: factor in Derwin James, you factor in Keenan Allen. I

779
00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:48,280
Speaker 1: know Mike Williams banged up, but Patriots kicked their ass,

780
00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:52,320
Speaker 1: kicked their ass. And you see last week there's a

781
00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:54,960
Speaker 1: reason Belichick kept that pedal to the metal against the Jets,

782
00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:58,399
Speaker 1: started getting momentum, started getting the confidence, and they come

783
00:37:58,440 --> 00:38:00,360
Speaker 1: too that Charger game, they just thoroughly outplay him, and

784
00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:02,719
Speaker 1: really Mac Jones a couple of throws like he's airmailing,

785
00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:05,440
Speaker 1: like he was far from perfect, and they easily could

786
00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:08,080
Speaker 1: have won that game by seventeen twenty points. That that

787
00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:11,839
Speaker 1: was that was heavily dominated by the Patriots. And now

788
00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:14,760
Speaker 1: the Patriots are four and four. Are they just pretty solid?

789
00:38:15,120 --> 00:38:18,040
Speaker 1: You know? Are they just when the dust settles you

790
00:38:18,040 --> 00:38:20,640
Speaker 1: look at the f C, it's pretty wide open. How

791
00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:22,840
Speaker 1: are they not a playoff team? He's too good of

792
00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:26,120
Speaker 1: a schematic guy against these younger quarterbacks and just the

793
00:38:26,160 --> 00:38:28,080
Speaker 1: reality of the people you play in the a f

794
00:38:28,120 --> 00:38:30,319
Speaker 1: C is you just get a lot of younger quarterbacks.

795
00:38:30,640 --> 00:38:33,040
Speaker 1: You get Remember remember last year with Cam Newton, Uh

796
00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:35,160
Speaker 1: they almost beat the Bills when Josh Allen was having

797
00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:38,080
Speaker 1: his historic season and I think it was a late

798
00:38:38,239 --> 00:38:40,719
Speaker 1: fumble in that game by Cam that cost him the game,

799
00:38:40,719 --> 00:38:42,560
Speaker 1: but they were driving to win the game. He can

800
00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:46,399
Speaker 1: just give young quarterback fits. And his team is very

801
00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:50,200
Speaker 1: comfortable in awful environments in terms of the weather. So

802
00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:53,279
Speaker 1: the weather changes clearly in Boston and then any other

803
00:38:53,320 --> 00:38:56,440
Speaker 1: games they play outside, they will be comfortable in that spot.

804
00:38:57,040 --> 00:39:00,960
Speaker 1: And then Tomlin like yesterday, Listen, I'm not gonna shift

805
00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:03,040
Speaker 1: on Baker. He's injured. He as a torn labor him.

806
00:39:03,080 --> 00:39:06,359
Speaker 1: I can't even imagine the pain, like my brother has one.

807
00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:09,200
Speaker 1: He needs surgery. And he's just a farmer slash golfer,

808
00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:11,640
Speaker 1: and he says sometimes he's just being so much pain

809
00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:14,719
Speaker 1: and he doesn't have to throw a football. So he's

810
00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:17,080
Speaker 1: clearly not as bad as he's showing this year. I

811
00:39:17,080 --> 00:39:19,160
Speaker 1: don't think he's quite as good as it went last year.

812
00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:22,000
Speaker 1: But he's a solid player and we can argue all

813
00:39:22,080 --> 00:39:24,320
Speaker 1: day long whether you'd pay him I would not, and

814
00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:27,240
Speaker 1: I don't think they will. But they're in this season

815
00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:29,000
Speaker 1: and they're trying to make the playoffs and a little

816
00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:32,200
Speaker 1: bit like the Bengals on a higher level. They didn't

817
00:39:32,239 --> 00:39:34,399
Speaker 1: just make the playoffs last year. They won a playoff game,

818
00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:36,879
Speaker 1: and for Cleveland that's a really big deal and their

819
00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:41,160
Speaker 1: expectations were sky high. And I heard Schraeger say this,

820
00:39:41,680 --> 00:39:43,600
Speaker 1: and I could attest. He's like, you know, we reached

821
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Speaker 1: out me and McVeigh to have Stefanski on the podcast,

822
00:39:47,280 --> 00:39:49,959
Speaker 1: and he's like, I'm not doing media this off season

823
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Speaker 1: because it's not about me, and he just I think

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00:39:51,600 --> 00:39:53,920
Speaker 1: he knew the expectations. I have a couple of buddies

825
00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:56,479
Speaker 1: in the NFL that are buddies with Stefanski. I got

826
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Speaker 1: his email. I shoot up shot him an email, uh

827
00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:01,560
Speaker 1: well before training camp, and I'd be like, hey, Kevin,

828
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Speaker 1: I'd love to have you on the podcast, kind of

829
00:40:03,400 --> 00:40:06,440
Speaker 1: introduced myself, and he responded very politely back like hey man,

830
00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:09,560
Speaker 1: not just not interested in not doing any media. So

831
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Speaker 1: he was really focused because I think he understood, like

832
00:40:12,640 --> 00:40:14,759
Speaker 1: it wasn't just gonna be cool going eight or nine

833
00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:16,879
Speaker 1: wins this year. The expectations for them were to win

834
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Speaker 1: like twelve or thirteen games, and on paper they were

835
00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:21,239
Speaker 1: one of the best teams in the league. Now they

836
00:40:21,239 --> 00:40:23,560
Speaker 1: have a bunch of injuries in their chambles and they

837
00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:26,440
Speaker 1: got beat by a team like the Pittsburgh Steelers. Didn't

838
00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:29,440
Speaker 1: just score twenty eight points and they scored fifteen points.

839
00:40:29,800 --> 00:40:33,160
Speaker 1: He scored fifth teen points. It was really hard for

840
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Speaker 1: the Browns to move the ball. And Roethlisberger say what

841
00:40:36,280 --> 00:40:39,880
Speaker 1: you want I mean, And again I'm guilty because I was,

842
00:40:40,120 --> 00:40:43,080
Speaker 1: you know, somewhat shipping on his career being over, because

843
00:40:43,080 --> 00:40:45,439
Speaker 1: he just looks he's a shell of what he used

844
00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:48,520
Speaker 1: to be. But he still does have just the capability

845
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Speaker 1: of one. He's gonna be able to play in weather,

846
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Speaker 1: assuming like his body can hold up. Maybe the weather

847
00:40:53,120 --> 00:40:55,960
Speaker 1: might not be great for his elbow, but he's crafty

848
00:40:56,360 --> 00:40:59,560
Speaker 1: and he's just he's a better player at thirty thirty nine.

849
00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:02,600
Speaker 1: Then little injured Baker, he just is. I thought you'll

850
00:41:02,600 --> 00:41:04,920
Speaker 1: played him yesterday. He didn't throw a pick, you know,

851
00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:06,640
Speaker 1: he didn't turn the ball over, and they got a

852
00:41:06,640 --> 00:41:08,920
Speaker 1: good game from Nase and then won the game fifteen

853
00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:11,520
Speaker 1: to ten. And now they're in position, like I think,

854
00:41:11,520 --> 00:41:14,960
Speaker 1: if you're betting on that division back to I know

855
00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:19,279
Speaker 1: the Bengals beat the Steelers earlier this year, but you know,

856
00:41:19,320 --> 00:41:22,400
Speaker 1: and obviously beat the Ravens. I still think the Steelers

857
00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:24,759
Speaker 1: can be heard of, and I think the Browns, the

858
00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:28,360
Speaker 1: Brownies are in major, major trouble, uh you know, and

859
00:41:28,480 --> 00:41:30,759
Speaker 1: part of it sometimes you just have a season from hell, right,

860
00:41:30,760 --> 00:41:33,960
Speaker 1: you just have a season where guys get hurt and

861
00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:36,920
Speaker 1: he can't overcome it. And we can't keep saying it's

862
00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:39,960
Speaker 1: a quarterback league. It's a quarterback league. In hell. We

863
00:41:39,960 --> 00:41:42,320
Speaker 1: say this a lot where I live about the forty Niners, like, well,

864
00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:45,759
Speaker 1: the running game was the Fanski and Kyle like we

865
00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:48,880
Speaker 1: eventually gotta throw the ball. You know, you get in positions.

866
00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:50,680
Speaker 1: Is what I always say about the playoffs. Where I

867
00:41:50,760 --> 00:41:53,920
Speaker 1: questioned Lamar ever being a star quarterback in previous years

868
00:41:54,120 --> 00:41:55,719
Speaker 1: because I was like, well, when he gets into like

869
00:41:55,840 --> 00:41:59,200
Speaker 1: third and seven to third and ten, that is inevitable

870
00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:02,400
Speaker 1: in playoff games, can you win right in? Lamar has

871
00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:05,680
Speaker 1: proven he can. He's comfortable in that spot. Well right now,

872
00:42:05,719 --> 00:42:08,759
Speaker 1: it's very very hard for the Browns and when must

873
00:42:08,760 --> 00:42:12,480
Speaker 1: pass situations for them to be successful, it just is

874
00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:15,640
Speaker 1: you know, and and that's that's a problem. And I

875
00:42:15,680 --> 00:42:18,840
Speaker 1: think the problem for them big picture is you know

876
00:42:18,840 --> 00:42:21,680
Speaker 1: he's gonna get offseason shoulder surgery, so you picked up

877
00:42:21,680 --> 00:42:23,480
Speaker 1: his five year option next year, he just plays on

878
00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:25,000
Speaker 1: it and you just kind of see how it goes.

879
00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:28,000
Speaker 1: I think that's the only play, because under no circumstances

880
00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:31,200
Speaker 1: I would sign him to probably the Marii Cooper contract.

881
00:42:31,440 --> 00:42:33,919
Speaker 1: What do you take five for twenty sixty million dollars

882
00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:36,120
Speaker 1: guaranteed pay twenty million dollars a year. You never would,

883
00:42:37,120 --> 00:42:42,560
Speaker 1: but I cannot do the doc Josh Allen, Mahomes, Russell Wilson,

884
00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:46,520
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers like game that level. And for a team

885
00:42:46,560 --> 00:42:49,280
Speaker 1: that's run by an IVY multiple IVY leaguers, their gm

886
00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:51,959
Speaker 1: is and their head coach, like their combination of head

887
00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:56,160
Speaker 1: coach and gm just in terms of intellect in just

888
00:42:56,239 --> 00:42:59,400
Speaker 1: a meeting room talking is as high as against the

889
00:42:59,480 --> 00:43:02,400
Speaker 1: league now football wise. Like I'm not annointing them like

890
00:43:02,680 --> 00:43:07,640
Speaker 1: the next Bill Parcels and you know, George Young or something,

891
00:43:08,560 --> 00:43:12,000
Speaker 1: but they are very very intelligent guys, and neither of

892
00:43:12,040 --> 00:43:15,200
Speaker 1: them picked this guy. So I think Baker, you know,

893
00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:17,440
Speaker 1: I know, people, especially Colin can pick on him a

894
00:43:17,480 --> 00:43:20,759
Speaker 1: little bit, but it is a legitimate question. Lamar is

895
00:43:20,800 --> 00:43:23,520
Speaker 1: going to get signed. You know, I think it's complicated

896
00:43:23,600 --> 00:43:26,280
Speaker 1: because he's his own agent, but he's not going anywhere.

897
00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:29,680
Speaker 1: He is the Ravens obviously, Josh Allen is under contract.

898
00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:32,560
Speaker 1: The Baker thing is gonna be something that Lingers and

899
00:43:32,640 --> 00:43:35,560
Speaker 1: I just don't see how this offseason unless they give

900
00:43:35,600 --> 00:43:37,480
Speaker 1: him the fakest to fake contracts in the history of

901
00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:41,480
Speaker 1: fake contracts, how he gets a big extension so that

902
00:43:41,480 --> 00:43:44,880
Speaker 1: that game yesterday, the Steelers, you know, kind of out cultured,

903
00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:47,920
Speaker 1: I thought the Browns because let's not act like you know,

904
00:43:47,960 --> 00:43:50,200
Speaker 1: of course, the Steelers beat him at a bunch of injuries. Now,

905
00:43:50,200 --> 00:43:52,200
Speaker 1: I mean the Steelers were under ducks. My favorite bet

906
00:43:52,200 --> 00:43:54,480
Speaker 1: of the week Steelers plus three and a half. But

907
00:43:55,040 --> 00:43:58,960
Speaker 1: just physicality and Ben, you know, finding a way to

908
00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:00,880
Speaker 1: play with his mind, which is always something that I

909
00:44:00,920 --> 00:44:02,600
Speaker 1: don't think he ever got that much credit for because

910
00:44:02,600 --> 00:44:05,279
Speaker 1: that's the way we talked about Brady and Breeze and

911
00:44:05,280 --> 00:44:08,320
Speaker 1: and Uh and Manning kind of his generation, even Rivers.

912
00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:11,080
Speaker 1: But that's how Roethlisberger, if they're going to make the

913
00:44:11,120 --> 00:44:13,279
Speaker 1: playoffs and keep winning, that's how he's gonna have to

914
00:44:13,320 --> 00:44:16,279
Speaker 1: function because he's not gonna have these many games. He

915
00:44:16,280 --> 00:44:18,480
Speaker 1: didn't yesterday, but he's just not gonna have You're not

916
00:44:18,480 --> 00:44:20,880
Speaker 1: gonna look up in Roethlisberger. Oh you see h Roethlisberger

917
00:44:20,920 --> 00:44:22,880
Speaker 1: through you know, five touchdowns and four in yards like

918
00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:25,760
Speaker 1: that's probably not their deal and that's a big reason

919
00:44:25,880 --> 00:44:28,760
Speaker 1: that you know, obviously, No, she's a really good player.

920
00:44:28,880 --> 00:44:30,560
Speaker 1: And I thought he was, you know, a first round

921
00:44:30,600 --> 00:44:34,080
Speaker 1: level caliber player. But I think no one if Roethlisberger

922
00:44:34,120 --> 00:44:35,359
Speaker 1: was in the peak of his powers. Do you think

923
00:44:35,400 --> 00:44:37,960
Speaker 1: they draft you know, a running back in the first round.

924
00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:40,360
Speaker 1: Probably not, But I think they were able to balance

925
00:44:40,360 --> 00:44:42,919
Speaker 1: short and long term with Nagi Harris Go. He's gonna

926
00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:45,440
Speaker 1: help Ben immediately. And it's just probably one of the

927
00:44:45,440 --> 00:44:47,680
Speaker 1: better players on aren board, right and he was big

928
00:44:47,760 --> 00:44:51,120
Speaker 1: yesterday at that sweet touchdown where he leaped over over

929
00:44:51,160 --> 00:44:53,360
Speaker 1: everyone and he's you know, he's gonna he's gonna be

930
00:44:53,360 --> 00:44:57,160
Speaker 1: a really good stealer. Okay. I wanted to touch on

931
00:44:57,239 --> 00:45:00,520
Speaker 1: something college wise, and it has to do uh with

932
00:45:00,680 --> 00:45:02,239
Speaker 1: U C. L A. There was an article in the

933
00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:05,879
Speaker 1: l A Times momentums shifting Chip Kelly is gonna get

934
00:45:05,880 --> 00:45:09,279
Speaker 1: fired his and let's face it, he hasn't been a

935
00:45:09,280 --> 00:45:12,799
Speaker 1: good football coach since about two thousand, fifteen disaster at

936
00:45:12,800 --> 00:45:15,080
Speaker 1: the end of his Eagles run, worst nine or season

937
00:45:15,120 --> 00:45:18,400
Speaker 1: the history of the franchise, and he's fifteen and twenty

938
00:45:18,440 --> 00:45:22,560
Speaker 1: five at u C. L A. But and listen to me,

939
00:45:22,600 --> 00:45:24,719
Speaker 1: they're justified firing. I never would have hired him in

940
00:45:24,719 --> 00:45:27,759
Speaker 1: the first place. I like Troy Aikman, I respect the

941
00:45:27,760 --> 00:45:30,480
Speaker 1: hell out of him. But he led the charge with

942
00:45:30,520 --> 00:45:32,600
Speaker 1: one of the most powerful guys in L. A. Wasserman,

943
00:45:32,960 --> 00:45:35,840
Speaker 1: and they brought him there and it was a mistake

944
00:45:35,880 --> 00:45:39,600
Speaker 1: from the get go. But one thing I read in

945
00:45:39,640 --> 00:45:41,920
Speaker 1: the l A Times is they called it a sixteen

946
00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:45,960
Speaker 1: million dollar mistake. And Chip Kelly is the highest paid

947
00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:48,800
Speaker 1: coach in the history of the program. He's obviously he

948
00:45:48,840 --> 00:45:51,439
Speaker 1: makes a lot of money for the West Coast, and

949
00:45:51,920 --> 00:45:54,800
Speaker 1: I kind of thoughts to myself, God, the Pack twelve

950
00:45:54,840 --> 00:45:57,640
Speaker 1: is so far behind. Like, you guys are making a

951
00:45:57,640 --> 00:46:00,319
Speaker 1: big deal about a four million dollar football coach. You

952
00:46:00,320 --> 00:46:02,799
Speaker 1: know what the going grade is now for top guys

953
00:46:02,840 --> 00:46:05,279
Speaker 1: six seven million dollars a year, And obviously if you

954
00:46:05,280 --> 00:46:07,919
Speaker 1: want an elite guy, it's seven eight million dollars a year.

955
00:46:08,320 --> 00:46:11,960
Speaker 1: That's the cost of doing business. You can't get mad

956
00:46:12,360 --> 00:46:14,399
Speaker 1: when you have a four million dollar coach and he's

957
00:46:14,400 --> 00:46:17,919
Speaker 1: not that good. Now, obviously, with four million dollars a year,

958
00:46:18,239 --> 00:46:20,400
Speaker 1: you'd like to at least compete to be five hundred,

959
00:46:20,840 --> 00:46:22,880
Speaker 1: which maybe for the first time in his U c

960
00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:25,120
Speaker 1: l A ten year, they'll go five hundred this year.

961
00:46:25,560 --> 00:46:27,759
Speaker 1: You Utah just kicked the living you know what out

962
00:46:27,760 --> 00:46:30,840
Speaker 1: of him on Sunday, ran it right down their throat chips.

963
00:46:31,000 --> 00:46:33,160
Speaker 1: You know, he's not a very good assistant coach. Higher

964
00:46:33,719 --> 00:46:35,719
Speaker 1: when he had a good staff at Oregon, it's because

965
00:46:35,719 --> 00:46:38,640
Speaker 1: he kept everyone on staff that was on Billadi staff.

966
00:46:39,080 --> 00:46:42,160
Speaker 1: His defensive coordinator Jerry as an arrow. People I know

967
00:46:42,320 --> 00:46:45,880
Speaker 1: around Philadelphia, I mean jaw hit the floor when he

968
00:46:45,960 --> 00:46:48,040
Speaker 1: named him the defensive coordinator at u c l A.

969
00:46:48,360 --> 00:46:50,400
Speaker 1: He makes seven hundred thousand dollars a year, is what

970
00:46:50,440 --> 00:46:54,080
Speaker 1: I always say, like I I don't think we spend.

971
00:46:54,360 --> 00:46:56,719
Speaker 1: It is way harder to be a player in the

972
00:46:56,760 --> 00:47:00,000
Speaker 1: pros or even start in college than it is a Jerry.

973
00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:03,000
Speaker 1: He has an arrow making seven hundred thousand dollars. There's

974
00:47:03,040 --> 00:47:05,480
Speaker 1: no other profession that guy would sniff that much money,

975
00:47:05,840 --> 00:47:07,799
Speaker 1: let alone be it. No other team would hire them

976
00:47:07,800 --> 00:47:12,000
Speaker 1: to be their coordinator. But listen, Chip should go. But

977
00:47:12,080 --> 00:47:13,600
Speaker 1: I think U C l A and some of these

978
00:47:13,640 --> 00:47:17,360
Speaker 1: programs in the PAC twelve if you want to be competitive,

979
00:47:17,440 --> 00:47:20,120
Speaker 1: and let's face it, beside Oregon, the conference is not

980
00:47:20,280 --> 00:47:23,520
Speaker 1: competitive right now. It simply is not. There is not

981
00:47:23,640 --> 00:47:26,080
Speaker 1: enough talent the best. If I had to rank the

982
00:47:26,080 --> 00:47:29,080
Speaker 1: best five programs right now on the West Coast, it

983
00:47:29,120 --> 00:47:33,880
Speaker 1: would be Oregon, Utah, Fresno State, San Diego State, Nevada.

984
00:47:34,120 --> 00:47:37,840
Speaker 1: The PAC twelve is a joke. University of Washington awful.

985
00:47:38,520 --> 00:47:41,680
Speaker 1: Washington State actually isn't bad, but they lost their head coach,

986
00:47:41,800 --> 00:47:44,359
Speaker 1: so they're just it's just not an ideal situation. They

987
00:47:44,360 --> 00:47:46,720
Speaker 1: actually probably would have been solid if Rolovich would have stayed.

988
00:47:46,960 --> 00:47:49,319
Speaker 1: I washed Oregon State play. I like Jonathan Smith, but

989
00:47:49,520 --> 00:47:51,840
Speaker 1: their team doesn't really have that much talent. Col is

990
00:47:51,880 --> 00:47:57,600
Speaker 1: not very good. Stanford's awful US season shambles, Arizona State stinks,

991
00:47:57,640 --> 00:48:02,160
Speaker 1: Arizona hasn't won a game. Colorado terrible. Part of the

992
00:48:02,200 --> 00:48:05,680
Speaker 1: reason the SEC and the Big Ten have pulled away

993
00:48:05,680 --> 00:48:10,120
Speaker 1: from everyone. They're spending more money. You get what you

994
00:48:10,160 --> 00:48:15,120
Speaker 1: pay for in life, especially in competitive, high priced industries.

995
00:48:15,640 --> 00:48:19,280
Speaker 1: So some of these programs. Money's all relative. Four million

996
00:48:19,320 --> 00:48:22,320
Speaker 1: dollars ten years ago was a lot to pay a coach.

997
00:48:23,320 --> 00:48:26,440
Speaker 1: Four million dollars twenty years ago an astronomical amount of

998
00:48:26,440 --> 00:48:28,680
Speaker 1: money to pay a coach. But if you tell me

999
00:48:28,719 --> 00:48:31,759
Speaker 1: that Lincoln Riley or Steve Sarkisian or some of these

1000
00:48:31,800 --> 00:48:35,520
Speaker 1: guys in these programs are making six seven eight million dollars,

1001
00:48:36,280 --> 00:48:38,120
Speaker 1: how can you ce l A think they're gonna get

1002
00:48:38,120 --> 00:48:42,040
Speaker 1: a top notch guy paying four million dollars. It's triple

1003
00:48:42,360 --> 00:48:44,560
Speaker 1: the amount of money it costs to live in l

1004
00:48:44,640 --> 00:48:47,640
Speaker 1: A than it costs to live in Norman, Oklahoma. Austin

1005
00:48:47,680 --> 00:48:50,600
Speaker 1: is more expensive than Norman, is still relatively cheap Tuscaloosa.

1006
00:48:50,840 --> 00:48:54,360
Speaker 1: What Kirby makes a Georgia Ryan Day and Columbus. You

1007
00:48:54,480 --> 00:48:57,680
Speaker 1: have to be competitive in any industry. You can't get

1008
00:48:57,719 --> 00:49:00,840
Speaker 1: mad when you can't compete, when you don't spend the

1009
00:49:00,880 --> 00:49:05,600
Speaker 1: money as the competitive competition. And right now the PAC

1010
00:49:05,680 --> 00:49:08,520
Speaker 1: twelve is living like it's ten years ago. They need

1011
00:49:08,560 --> 00:49:11,280
Speaker 1: to get in the fucking modern times where they're gonna

1012
00:49:11,360 --> 00:49:15,680
Speaker 1: keep getting lapped. Luckily for Oregon, they're the only program

1013
00:49:15,680 --> 00:49:17,800
Speaker 1: out west like u c l A. I Read is

1014
00:49:17,880 --> 00:49:21,800
Speaker 1: like a multi billion dollar operation, yet they pinch pennies

1015
00:49:21,800 --> 00:49:24,960
Speaker 1: with football where he really they should invest in football

1016
00:49:25,000 --> 00:49:27,879
Speaker 1: and basketball, and that'd be like a marketing campaign for them.

1017
00:49:28,280 --> 00:49:30,640
Speaker 1: We've all read the stories over the years about what

1018
00:49:30,760 --> 00:49:34,239
Speaker 1: Nick Saban, the value he's brought to that program in

1019
00:49:34,360 --> 00:49:38,040
Speaker 1: terms of UH potential applicants every year. U c A

1020
00:49:38,200 --> 00:49:41,479
Speaker 1: just does not care. They just simply do not care.

1021
00:49:42,000 --> 00:49:44,280
Speaker 1: But then you can't get mad when you suck at football,

1022
00:49:44,440 --> 00:49:47,799
Speaker 1: because to them, paying four million dollars for Chip Kelly

1023
00:49:48,080 --> 00:49:51,840
Speaker 1: was like, you know, hiring Bill belichicker Nick Saban, and

1024
00:49:51,920 --> 00:49:54,560
Speaker 1: Chip has gone fifteen and I could have told you

1025
00:49:54,560 --> 00:49:56,520
Speaker 1: when you hired him he wasn't gonna win there. He

1026
00:49:56,560 --> 00:49:59,320
Speaker 1: hates recruiting, doesn't fit in in the in the culture

1027
00:49:59,320 --> 00:50:03,360
Speaker 1: and the vibe. It is an awful fit and he

1028
00:50:03,440 --> 00:50:06,239
Speaker 1: hasn't had success. But the problem is like they're gonna

1029
00:50:06,280 --> 00:50:07,759
Speaker 1: try to go hire like a two or three million

1030
00:50:07,760 --> 00:50:11,600
Speaker 1: dollar coach and maybe they get lucky, because you know,

1031
00:50:11,680 --> 00:50:14,360
Speaker 1: there are some coaches that grew up in southern California

1032
00:50:14,400 --> 00:50:16,640
Speaker 1: that might be drawn. Maybe they hit a home run

1033
00:50:16,680 --> 00:50:21,279
Speaker 1: with an assistant coach, But it's very, very difficult to

1034
00:50:21,480 --> 00:50:25,720
Speaker 1: operate under the circumstances of always trying to go cheap,

1035
00:50:26,120 --> 00:50:27,759
Speaker 1: and then when you think you're spending a lot of

1036
00:50:27,760 --> 00:50:31,480
Speaker 1: money compared to your competition, you're still cheap. Now. I

1037
00:50:31,560 --> 00:50:33,759
Speaker 1: know they beat l s U this year, but for

1038
00:50:33,800 --> 00:50:35,799
Speaker 1: the most part, they're never gonna beat LSU because LSU

1039
00:50:35,840 --> 00:50:37,800
Speaker 1: was always gonna have a seven, eight, nine million dollar coach.

1040
00:50:39,400 --> 00:50:41,239
Speaker 1: It's why the rumors are that mil Tucker is gonna

1041
00:50:41,239 --> 00:50:43,920
Speaker 1: get the job. We just saw good mil Tucker was

1042
00:50:44,040 --> 00:50:47,120
Speaker 1: he just beat hardball in Michigan. Well, where was mil

1043
00:50:47,200 --> 00:50:49,279
Speaker 1: Tucker before we got to Michigan State in the Big Ten?

1044
00:50:50,520 --> 00:50:54,040
Speaker 1: He was at Colorado And guess what happened. Michigan State

1045
00:50:54,080 --> 00:50:56,600
Speaker 1: paid him more money. And guess why he's gonna leave

1046
00:50:56,640 --> 00:50:58,719
Speaker 1: Michigan State because l s U is gonna pay him

1047
00:50:58,719 --> 00:51:01,919
Speaker 1: more money. Is a money game, This is an arms race,

1048
00:51:02,560 --> 00:51:05,200
Speaker 1: and the money is flowing. There's a reason Ohio State

1049
00:51:05,200 --> 00:51:08,799
Speaker 1: and Alabama and now Georgia and I know Clemson is

1050
00:51:08,840 --> 00:51:11,240
Speaker 1: having a bad year, but they're gonna consistently be fine

1051
00:51:11,680 --> 00:51:15,239
Speaker 1: because they spend like for the most part, I know,

1052
00:51:15,280 --> 00:51:17,040
Speaker 1: they haven't won a World Series in a decade, but

1053
00:51:17,040 --> 00:51:19,319
Speaker 1: the Yankees are always in the mix. The Dodgers are

1054
00:51:19,320 --> 00:51:21,400
Speaker 1: always gonna be in the mix. The Red Sox are

1055
00:51:21,400 --> 00:51:24,040
Speaker 1: always gonna be there. They're gonna spend the money. It's

1056
00:51:24,080 --> 00:51:26,880
Speaker 1: it's like that in any pro sports. You know what

1057
00:51:26,960 --> 00:51:29,680
Speaker 1: the what the A's and Rays are doing. It's very hard,

1058
00:51:29,760 --> 00:51:33,280
Speaker 1: it's very difficult. You have to outthink everyone, and luckily,

1059
00:51:33,320 --> 00:51:35,640
Speaker 1: somehow the Tampa Bay Rays have the smartest people alive

1060
00:51:35,719 --> 00:51:38,960
Speaker 1: running their baseball operation. That's not the case at U

1061
00:51:38,960 --> 00:51:40,560
Speaker 1: c l A, And more than likely it's not the

1062
00:51:40,600 --> 00:51:43,080
Speaker 1: case with the Football Coast. They're gonna hire because they're

1063
00:51:43,120 --> 00:51:46,040
Speaker 1: surely gonna try to go cheaper and it's gonna backfire. Now,

1064
00:51:46,080 --> 00:51:49,680
Speaker 1: hopefully for USC, they're willing to spend you know, seven

1065
00:51:49,719 --> 00:51:52,439
Speaker 1: eight million dollars to hire James Franklin, which I still

1066
00:51:52,480 --> 00:51:55,200
Speaker 1: think is a pretty big stretch, but given the bar

1067
00:51:55,360 --> 00:51:58,279
Speaker 1: is really low, it's a huge upgrade form. But the

1068
00:51:58,320 --> 00:52:00,560
Speaker 1: way they're gonna get James frankly is they're gonna have

1069
00:52:00,600 --> 00:52:03,719
Speaker 1: to pay him. They couldn't get Jane Franklin by offering

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00:52:03,800 --> 00:52:06,040
Speaker 1: him five years, twenty five billion dollars. He makes way

1071
00:52:06,080 --> 00:52:08,839
Speaker 1: more than that. Now, remember a couple of years ago

1072
00:52:08,880 --> 00:52:12,160
Speaker 1: when Temper hired Matt Rule because like they gave Matt

1073
00:52:12,239 --> 00:52:15,200
Speaker 1: Rules seventy million dollars. Like, yeah, guys, he's making eight

1074
00:52:15,239 --> 00:52:19,360
Speaker 1: and a half in Waco, Texas. Like you, if you

1075
00:52:19,520 --> 00:52:22,400
Speaker 1: become eight million dollars in certain areas, you live like

1076
00:52:22,440 --> 00:52:25,719
Speaker 1: your Warren Buffet or Elon Musk. Ten million dollars get

1077
00:52:25,760 --> 00:52:28,840
Speaker 1: you in Norman, Oklahoma, you realize you're like in l A.

1078
00:52:28,920 --> 00:52:31,640
Speaker 1: Even if I got five million dollars, I got Newsom

1079
00:52:31,680 --> 00:52:34,480
Speaker 1: coming after half of it. I mean, a decent house

1080
00:52:34,560 --> 00:52:36,719
Speaker 1: cost me three million dollars, let alone the house my

1081
00:52:36,719 --> 00:52:39,640
Speaker 1: wife wants cost me eight. I gotta send my kids

1082
00:52:39,640 --> 00:52:43,640
Speaker 1: to private school. That's that's fifty granded a year, especially

1083
00:52:43,640 --> 00:52:47,279
Speaker 1: if I have multiple kids. It's expensive. It's really expensive

1084
00:52:47,280 --> 00:52:50,360
Speaker 1: in Southern California, in l A and San Francisco, and

1085
00:52:50,400 --> 00:52:52,680
Speaker 1: these programs just won't pay the money and then they

1086
00:52:52,680 --> 00:52:55,960
Speaker 1: get piste off when they lose. It's just it's why

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00:52:56,000 --> 00:52:58,640
Speaker 1: I've converted to be an SEC fan, because I I

1088
00:52:58,760 --> 00:53:02,319
Speaker 1: do not fun to mentally agree with the way our

1089
00:53:02,440 --> 00:53:05,680
Speaker 1: academic elites out here approach football. When we have the money.

1090
00:53:06,000 --> 00:53:08,799
Speaker 1: Stanford U C. L A. I mean, Washington schools have

1091
00:53:08,920 --> 00:53:11,320
Speaker 1: an unlimited amount of cash because of the power of

1092
00:53:11,360 --> 00:53:14,480
Speaker 1: their university. Like really, an extra five million dollars is

1093
00:53:14,560 --> 00:53:18,520
Speaker 1: nothing to them. But these non athletic people, you know,

1094
00:53:18,560 --> 00:53:21,120
Speaker 1: in terms of like the presidents, and they can't even

1095
00:53:21,239 --> 00:53:25,120
Speaker 1: fathom or understand that, hey man, you invest a little,

1096
00:53:25,280 --> 00:53:28,480
Speaker 1: you get more because they're not businessmen. They're they're living

1097
00:53:28,480 --> 00:53:30,960
Speaker 1: in academia. They love the chart, right, they love a

1098
00:53:30,960 --> 00:53:33,839
Speaker 1: good white board teaching in theories. Well, in the real

1099
00:53:33,880 --> 00:53:37,560
Speaker 1: world where I live, where you live, theories ain't getting

1100
00:53:37,560 --> 00:53:43,279
Speaker 1: it done. And clearly pactwell football ain't getting it done. Okay,

1101
00:53:43,360 --> 00:53:46,319
Speaker 1: let's go a little Middlecoff mail bag at John Middlecoff

1102
00:53:46,360 --> 00:53:50,080
Speaker 1: is the Instagram, slide up into those little things we

1103
00:53:50,160 --> 00:53:54,359
Speaker 1: call direct messages d m s and get your question

1104
00:53:54,400 --> 00:53:57,759
Speaker 1: answer here on the show. What should the Broncos do

1105
00:53:57,800 --> 00:54:02,400
Speaker 1: at quarterback? Simeon post text, Sin's Oustweiler, Paxson, Lynch, case Keenum,

1106
00:54:02,520 --> 00:54:06,560
Speaker 1: ripping Lock Bridgewater. We can't compete in the vision with Mahomes,

1107
00:54:07,200 --> 00:54:10,040
Speaker 1: Herbert and Carr unless we get a guy. Why. I

1108
00:54:10,040 --> 00:54:12,239
Speaker 1: think everyone thinks they're gonna get or not gonna get.

1109
00:54:12,280 --> 00:54:14,520
Speaker 1: I don't, but they're gonna try to get Aaron Rodgers.

1110
00:54:14,600 --> 00:54:17,279
Speaker 1: Why would Aaron Rodgers go to the Broncos. Why would

1111
00:54:17,280 --> 00:54:19,240
Speaker 1: you leave the Packers, Why would you leave Matt Lafleoor.

1112
00:54:19,400 --> 00:54:23,080
Speaker 1: It just does not make any sense. Now, if Russell

1113
00:54:23,120 --> 00:54:27,200
Speaker 1: Wilson becomes available, could they get involved Deshaun Watson. It

1114
00:54:27,400 --> 00:54:30,279
Speaker 1: feels like they're not really in Deshaun Watson. I don't know,

1115
00:54:31,480 --> 00:54:33,960
Speaker 1: not a great you know, offseason to need a quarterback.

1116
00:54:34,360 --> 00:54:39,960
Speaker 1: Jimmy Garoppolo will be available. Uh, I don't really think

1117
00:54:39,960 --> 00:54:42,160
Speaker 1: that many people are gonna be available. I I don't

1118
00:54:42,200 --> 00:54:45,600
Speaker 1: honestly really know their options. I think they're honestly kind

1119
00:54:45,600 --> 00:54:49,920
Speaker 1: of screwed. Big fan of the pot. I'm sliding into

1120
00:54:49,960 --> 00:54:53,640
Speaker 1: your d m s from my wife's phone because I

1121
00:54:53,760 --> 00:54:56,759
Speaker 1: don't have social media. I message you a while back

1122
00:54:56,880 --> 00:55:00,360
Speaker 1: about a book called Fearless. I think I ordered that

1123
00:55:00,440 --> 00:55:05,240
Speaker 1: on on my Apple of my audio books. I played

1124
00:55:05,239 --> 00:55:09,160
Speaker 1: for Iowa State from thirteen to seventeen and was wondering

1125
00:55:09,160 --> 00:55:10,399
Speaker 1: if you had a chance to listen to the book.

1126
00:55:10,400 --> 00:55:12,920
Speaker 1: I haven't listened yet. Also, I'm a huge Colts fan,

1127
00:55:12,960 --> 00:55:15,160
Speaker 1: and I know Whence had an awful interception in the

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00:55:15,239 --> 00:55:17,719
Speaker 1: end zone laid against the Titans on a screen pass

1129
00:55:17,760 --> 00:55:19,720
Speaker 1: for the tight end. I thought it was a terrible

1130
00:55:19,760 --> 00:55:22,040
Speaker 1: call by Frank on our own three yard line. I agree,

1131
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Speaker 1: What are your thoughts? I talked about it earlier, like

1132
00:55:25,239 --> 00:55:27,400
Speaker 1: that pick? What what was he gonna do? He was

1133
00:55:27,400 --> 00:55:29,800
Speaker 1: gonna get sacked for safety and then they would have

1134
00:55:29,840 --> 00:55:31,520
Speaker 1: had to punt back, and then they could have knelt

1135
00:55:31,600 --> 00:55:33,919
Speaker 1: it twice called timeouts. It would have been one ten.

1136
00:55:34,719 --> 00:55:36,680
Speaker 1: They could take forty seconds off, so there have been

1137
00:55:36,719 --> 00:55:38,560
Speaker 1: thirty seconds on the clock, and then they punt it

1138
00:55:38,560 --> 00:55:40,480
Speaker 1: and they get the ball back with twenty five seconds.

1139
00:55:41,719 --> 00:55:43,279
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't think he was thinking that, but

1140
00:55:43,360 --> 00:55:47,879
Speaker 1: it wasn't. I think it was a little over hype. Now,

1141
00:55:48,000 --> 00:55:51,959
Speaker 1: picking the in the in overtime. I think Bird picked

1142
00:55:52,000 --> 00:55:54,399
Speaker 1: it off and went to It was a bad throw.

1143
00:55:55,280 --> 00:55:57,399
Speaker 1: You know, you can't commit it. You can't commit a pick.

1144
00:55:57,680 --> 00:56:02,120
Speaker 1: You just can't. You can't commit a turnover there. Um, yeah,

1145
00:56:02,160 --> 00:56:03,360
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't really know what to say. I

1146
00:56:03,600 --> 00:56:06,279
Speaker 1: don't put the end zone interception on Wins. I put

1147
00:56:06,320 --> 00:56:09,720
Speaker 1: that on the coach. I I do. So I'm with you.

1148
00:56:09,560 --> 00:56:11,920
Speaker 1: And you played Iowa State from thirteen to seventeen. I

1149
00:56:11,920 --> 00:56:13,760
Speaker 1: mean you were a big time Division one football player.

1150
00:56:13,960 --> 00:56:15,960
Speaker 1: Where you walk on or did you play? You know,

1151
00:56:16,000 --> 00:56:19,280
Speaker 1: we're your starter or special teamer. Either way, it's impressive.

1152
00:56:19,320 --> 00:56:21,760
Speaker 1: I'm not if you're a special team, that's that's really impressive.

1153
00:56:22,960 --> 00:56:25,400
Speaker 1: I watched Rudy actually, it was on Fox Sports one

1154
00:56:25,440 --> 00:56:28,720
Speaker 1: a little while ago. Big fans of the show, lifelong

1155
00:56:28,800 --> 00:56:31,560
Speaker 1: Niner fans from the Bahamas in Chicago for the game,

1156
00:56:31,920 --> 00:56:35,640
Speaker 1: Tito's and soda to get the tailgate started. It was

1157
00:56:35,640 --> 00:56:38,680
Speaker 1: a funny game. It was the Niners kicked their ass

1158
00:56:38,680 --> 00:56:42,920
Speaker 1: in the second half, but they didn't have Khalil Mackniter

1159
00:56:42,920 --> 00:56:44,880
Speaker 1: should win the game. I mean the Niners were favored

1160
00:56:45,200 --> 00:56:48,480
Speaker 1: on the road, so nice little win though. You know,

1161
00:56:48,600 --> 00:56:51,360
Speaker 1: you never apologize for winning life definitely not in the NFL.

1162
00:56:52,560 --> 00:56:54,280
Speaker 1: What do you think people are not giving the Packers

1163
00:56:54,320 --> 00:56:56,960
Speaker 1: more credit for how they've been playing. Look at what

1164
00:56:57,000 --> 00:56:59,120
Speaker 1: they've been able to do with the amount of injuries

1165
00:56:59,160 --> 00:57:00,680
Speaker 1: and with the amount of show Flame had to do,

1166
00:57:00,719 --> 00:57:02,920
Speaker 1: with the offensive line and the number of guys they

1167
00:57:02,920 --> 00:57:05,480
Speaker 1: had to have been brought up from the practice squad.

1168
00:57:05,880 --> 00:57:08,839
Speaker 1: Thank you for your opinion. I think they've been fantastic.

1169
00:57:09,520 --> 00:57:11,560
Speaker 1: I saw a coward last week after the win. He

1170
00:57:11,600 --> 00:57:14,040
Speaker 1: called it the most impressive Aaron Rodgers game of his career.

1171
00:57:14,840 --> 00:57:18,280
Speaker 1: Now I think from a character standpoint and a great standpoint,

1172
00:57:18,360 --> 00:57:23,360
Speaker 1: I agree. Obviously he's had statistically infinitely better games, right,

1173
00:57:23,400 --> 00:57:25,080
Speaker 1: I mean, he's one of the greatest quarterbacks ever. He's

1174
00:57:25,080 --> 00:57:28,320
Speaker 1: had remarkable games. But in terms of I thought that's

1175
00:57:28,360 --> 00:57:32,560
Speaker 1: as good given the circumstances, given the personnel, I'd even

1176
00:57:32,600 --> 00:57:35,360
Speaker 1: include Laflour. That's as good as a coach and a

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00:57:35,440 --> 00:57:37,640
Speaker 1: quarterback can operate. Now, they screwed up the end for

1178
00:57:37,680 --> 00:57:39,439
Speaker 1: the end zone, though. I put that on Rodgers because

1179
00:57:39,440 --> 00:57:41,560
Speaker 1: I think he loves those gun runs because that's kind

1180
00:57:41,560 --> 00:57:43,840
Speaker 1: of his baby la Floor's offense get him under center.

1181
00:57:44,680 --> 00:57:47,720
Speaker 1: So I I think that was an incredible win. I

1182
00:57:47,760 --> 00:57:50,919
Speaker 1: think they have been fucking awesome since the Saints game.

1183
00:57:50,960 --> 00:57:54,120
Speaker 1: They really have. I mean, Rogers as good as anybody

1184
00:57:54,160 --> 00:57:58,200
Speaker 1: in the league any position. Davante is same, the some

1185
00:57:58,280 --> 00:58:00,360
Speaker 1: of the random guys that got played on defense. Right now,

1186
00:58:00,360 --> 00:58:02,360
Speaker 1: we're awesome. I mean, they're dbs, are making plays and

1187
00:58:02,360 --> 00:58:04,800
Speaker 1: it's not even like Jay Alexander's there. They had a

1188
00:58:04,840 --> 00:58:07,280
Speaker 1: couple of guys making plays beside Douglas that I didn't

1189
00:58:07,280 --> 00:58:10,600
Speaker 1: even know who they were. They have the pass rusher,

1190
00:58:10,680 --> 00:58:13,320
Speaker 1: slash linebackers making plays. They just found him on the street.

1191
00:58:14,040 --> 00:58:16,040
Speaker 1: So I give Goodakins a lot of credit. I give

1192
00:58:16,120 --> 00:58:17,680
Speaker 1: a floor a lot of credit. I give Rodgers a

1193
00:58:17,720 --> 00:58:20,680
Speaker 1: lot of credit. They've been awesome. I mean they are

1194
00:58:22,040 --> 00:58:25,160
Speaker 1: to me. They're one of the you know them, the Rams, Tampa.

1195
00:58:26,680 --> 00:58:29,400
Speaker 1: There's probably not a team in the FC super Bowl bust,

1196
00:58:29,640 --> 00:58:31,480
Speaker 1: I mean anything less than the super Bowl for those

1197
00:58:31,520 --> 00:58:34,600
Speaker 1: three teams. I'd say Tampa, the Rams, but definitely the

1198
00:58:34,600 --> 00:58:37,000
Speaker 1: Packers in Tampa because you know, can can you really

1199
00:58:37,000 --> 00:58:39,760
Speaker 1: be super Bowl or bust? With Matt Stafford? You never

1200
00:58:39,760 --> 00:58:44,320
Speaker 1: won a playoff game. Now the franchise is But give

1201
00:58:44,360 --> 00:58:49,720
Speaker 1: me Aaron Rodgers Matt Stafford round two Tampa. You know,

1202
00:58:49,760 --> 00:58:52,000
Speaker 1: I'm selfish. I'd like to see Tampa Niners. But we

1203
00:58:52,080 --> 00:58:55,480
Speaker 1: got a long way to go. You know, people would

1204
00:58:55,520 --> 00:58:57,600
Speaker 1: call me an Arizona hater. We'll see. I mean, Kyler's

1205
00:58:57,600 --> 00:59:01,680
Speaker 1: already hurt. Kyler's injured. So this this is my issue

1206
00:59:01,720 --> 00:59:05,760
Speaker 1: with them. He is a remarkable player, but second half

1207
00:59:05,760 --> 00:59:08,080
Speaker 1: of the season again, he's he's injured. Now he's gonna

1208
00:59:08,080 --> 00:59:12,200
Speaker 1: miss some games. It's hard when you're tiny, I mean tiny,

1209
00:59:12,320 --> 00:59:15,240
Speaker 1: and you can get buying basketball, you know, you can

1210
00:59:15,280 --> 00:59:18,160
Speaker 1: be Muggsy Bogs In basketball, obviously Kylas Better and Muggsy Bogs.

1211
00:59:18,200 --> 00:59:19,600
Speaker 1: But you know what I mean, you can be a

1212
00:59:19,640 --> 00:59:22,440
Speaker 1: smaller player and Trey Young and kick Damian Lillard kick

1213
00:59:22,480 --> 00:59:26,880
Speaker 1: everyone's ass. In football, you're getting hit at quarterback. It's

1214
00:59:26,920 --> 00:59:30,160
Speaker 1: it's hard to last. No matter how talented and how

1215
00:59:30,200 --> 00:59:33,480
Speaker 1: fast and how good his arm is, he just gets crushed.

1216
00:59:34,480 --> 00:59:38,840
Speaker 1: So I I hope he's healthy. I mean, but man,

1217
00:59:38,880 --> 00:59:41,960
Speaker 1: it's just gonna be hard for them to sustain without him.

1218
00:59:42,160 --> 00:59:45,120
Speaker 1: Love the pot. I invest in crypto as well, Bitcoin,

1219
00:59:45,280 --> 00:59:48,919
Speaker 1: Ethereum and Cardono. You like Cardono? What is your take

1220
00:59:49,000 --> 00:59:51,880
Speaker 1: on the specific crypto and why I don't really have one.

1221
00:59:52,680 --> 00:59:56,280
Speaker 1: I can't pretend I've invested in Cardono kind of a

1222
00:59:56,320 --> 00:59:59,520
Speaker 1: low risk, high ceiling, just took a swing for the fences.

1223
01:00:00,120 --> 01:00:03,200
Speaker 1: If it hits great, if not, whatever. But I mean,

1224
01:00:03,240 --> 01:00:06,480
Speaker 1: I kind of understand the blockchain stuff n f T

1225
01:00:06,680 --> 01:00:09,040
Speaker 1: s I'm not involved in. I mean, I I believe

1226
01:00:09,120 --> 01:00:12,080
Speaker 1: that where we're headed. Maybe we're way early with some

1227
01:00:12,160 --> 01:00:15,320
Speaker 1: of this stuff. But I don't like, I don't have

1228
01:00:15,360 --> 01:00:17,360
Speaker 1: a take. The reason I do it. Part of the

1229
01:00:17,400 --> 01:00:19,840
Speaker 1: reason I do it is just because it feels like

1230
01:00:19,920 --> 01:00:22,840
Speaker 1: it's inevitable everything is gonna be based online. I mean,

1231
01:00:22,840 --> 01:00:26,320
Speaker 1: that's just, that's simple. I don't pretend, by any means

1232
01:00:26,360 --> 01:00:29,480
Speaker 1: to be a crypto expert. I'm a crypto idiot. But

1233
01:00:29,640 --> 01:00:31,480
Speaker 1: I want a little skin in the game. I don't

1234
01:00:31,480 --> 01:00:34,560
Speaker 1: like getting left. Uh, you know, as a train is

1235
01:00:34,600 --> 01:00:36,680
Speaker 1: taken off and me on the sideline. I like, I

1236
01:00:36,760 --> 01:00:38,680
Speaker 1: like having a little action. Now if I miss whatever,

1237
01:00:39,000 --> 01:00:41,880
Speaker 1: I'm okay. If that goes to zero, I would love

1238
01:00:41,880 --> 01:00:44,480
Speaker 1: for it to go ten x. But I'm just playing.

1239
01:00:44,760 --> 01:00:47,160
Speaker 1: I like the juice. I'm really in it for the juice,

1240
01:00:47,760 --> 01:00:50,520
Speaker 1: not the knowledge. I mean the knowledge that a lot

1241
01:00:50,560 --> 01:00:52,800
Speaker 1: of the heavy hitters are playing. That's why I got involved.

1242
01:00:53,560 --> 01:00:57,280
Speaker 1: Uh now that Sheba coin, that things shot off like

1243
01:00:57,280 --> 01:00:59,600
Speaker 1: a rocket. I had a friend to put a thousand bucks,

1244
01:00:59,640 --> 01:01:03,560
Speaker 1: he said, he looks two days later, it's like, it's like, goddamn,

1245
01:01:03,560 --> 01:01:05,720
Speaker 1: you should have put like ten grand. It would have

1246
01:01:05,720 --> 01:01:07,960
Speaker 1: made an easy you know, seventy grand before you even blink.

1247
01:01:08,680 --> 01:01:10,960
Speaker 1: But even he was like, I don't even understand what's

1248
01:01:11,000 --> 01:01:14,200
Speaker 1: going on. Sometimes you don't. Sometimes you just yop on

1249
01:01:14,240 --> 01:01:15,560
Speaker 1: that board and you ride the wave and you just

1250
01:01:15,600 --> 01:01:18,200
Speaker 1: see where it will go. Now, sometimes the wave crashes

1251
01:01:18,400 --> 01:01:20,840
Speaker 1: or a great white shark eats you. Other times you

1252
01:01:20,960 --> 01:01:22,919
Speaker 1: ripped that wave and you're the surf champion. You're layed

1253
01:01:22,920 --> 01:01:26,240
Speaker 1: Hamilton's you know, you just you never know, but you

1254
01:01:26,240 --> 01:01:28,880
Speaker 1: know at least you attempted to ride the wave. So

1255
01:01:29,200 --> 01:01:32,440
Speaker 1: that's my crypto speech. Enjoy the week and I will

1256
01:01:32,480 --> 01:01:57,160
Speaker 1: see everybody on Friday. Actually talk to you on Friday.

1257
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Speaker 1: The Volume eight