1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and buck 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:08,520 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. 3 00:00:08,560 --> 00:00:10,880 Speaker 1: Appreciate all of you hanging out with us. We power 4 00:00:10,960 --> 00:00:15,080 Speaker 1: through the Tuesday edition of the program. We are joined 5 00:00:15,080 --> 00:00:19,760 Speaker 1: now by a guest who has done a ton over 6 00:00:19,920 --> 00:00:22,400 Speaker 1: the past two years, almost more than anyone in the media, 7 00:00:22,440 --> 00:00:25,880 Speaker 1: to shine a light on January sixth and how much 8 00:00:25,920 --> 00:00:29,680 Speaker 1: of a sham portions of substantial portions of the story 9 00:00:29,720 --> 00:00:33,200 Speaker 1: surrounding January sixth have been She is Julie Kelly, senior 10 00:00:33,200 --> 00:00:37,120 Speaker 1: writer American Greatness, author of January sixth, How Democrats use 11 00:00:37,240 --> 00:00:40,839 Speaker 1: the Capitol protest to launch a war on terror against 12 00:00:40,960 --> 00:00:43,680 Speaker 1: the political right. You've been writing about this for two 13 00:00:43,760 --> 00:00:48,480 Speaker 1: years now. How much vindication, validation and just sheer finally 14 00:00:49,000 --> 00:00:52,400 Speaker 1: reaction did you have to seeing Tucker Carlson's report last 15 00:00:52,520 --> 00:00:55,960 Speaker 1: night showing much of the footage from behind January sixth 16 00:00:55,960 --> 00:00:59,680 Speaker 1: that has been covered up. Well, thank you so much 17 00:00:59,720 --> 00:01:02,280 Speaker 1: for having me on, and I do have to say 18 00:01:02,360 --> 00:01:06,479 Speaker 1: it was very gratifying as the reporter who, to your point, 19 00:01:06,480 --> 00:01:09,320 Speaker 1: has been covering this issue for two years, but more 20 00:01:09,360 --> 00:01:14,479 Speaker 1: importantly since May of twenty twenty one, you know, revealing 21 00:01:14,520 --> 00:01:17,200 Speaker 1: the existence of these tapes, the fourteen thousand hours and 22 00:01:17,200 --> 00:01:20,520 Speaker 1: now it's forty four thousand, but demanding the release of 23 00:01:20,560 --> 00:01:23,480 Speaker 1: this video. So that was very gratifying. But I have 24 00:01:23,640 --> 00:01:27,880 Speaker 1: to say I was more relieved and happy for the 25 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:32,640 Speaker 1: January sixth defendants and their families and their attorneys because 26 00:01:33,280 --> 00:01:37,639 Speaker 1: concealing all of this video not just from the American people, 27 00:01:37,880 --> 00:01:40,760 Speaker 1: but from the people who are charged to need this 28 00:01:41,080 --> 00:01:47,400 Speaker 1: evidence as exculpatory to defend themselves against this ruthless Department 29 00:01:47,400 --> 00:01:50,880 Speaker 1: of Justice. I hope that this is just one part 30 00:01:51,040 --> 00:01:54,640 Speaker 1: of the progress in getting all of that video in 31 00:01:54,720 --> 00:01:59,920 Speaker 1: the hands of the defendants and their attorneys. Julie, they're 32 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:03,120 Speaker 1: claiming that this was available. I'm sure you've seen some 33 00:02:03,120 --> 00:02:05,160 Speaker 1: of this now, right. There's a lot of different One 34 00:02:05,160 --> 00:02:07,840 Speaker 1: of the challenges we have whenever the truth starts to 35 00:02:07,880 --> 00:02:11,399 Speaker 1: come out is the other side rallies a whole bunch 36 00:02:11,400 --> 00:02:15,640 Speaker 1: of different either you know, counter attacks, explanations that rely 37 00:02:15,840 --> 00:02:22,000 Speaker 1: on misdirection, or just additional fabrication. I've seen some claims that, oh, 38 00:02:22,120 --> 00:02:27,680 Speaker 1: the defense attorneys had access to this before, but is that, 39 00:02:27,919 --> 00:02:30,000 Speaker 1: I mean, what is the accuracy of that? I also 40 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:33,160 Speaker 1: would wonder is this How is a public defender going 41 00:02:33,200 --> 00:02:38,280 Speaker 1: to go through thousands and thousands of hours of video? Right, 42 00:02:38,360 --> 00:02:41,919 Speaker 1: So the media spin and the Democrats and I'm sure 43 00:02:41,919 --> 00:02:45,280 Speaker 1: you thought Chuck Schumer even go to the Yeah, we 44 00:02:45,360 --> 00:02:47,919 Speaker 1: played audio of that in the first hour on the show, 45 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:51,320 Speaker 1: Julie Chuck Schumer on the Senate floor ridiculing Tucker for 46 00:02:51,360 --> 00:02:55,320 Speaker 1: sharing this footage. Right, So, there is not a single 47 00:02:55,360 --> 00:02:58,680 Speaker 1: defense attorney who will confirm what the media is saying, 48 00:02:58,800 --> 00:03:02,480 Speaker 1: and that is that this entire platform, this trope of 49 00:03:02,600 --> 00:03:06,040 Speaker 1: video has been made available. In fact, I just posted 50 00:03:06,040 --> 00:03:10,240 Speaker 1: on Twitter from January this year, two years later, that 51 00:03:10,320 --> 00:03:14,560 Speaker 1: the government admits it is still producing global discovery. So 52 00:03:14,639 --> 00:03:19,440 Speaker 1: that means discovery that pertains to the entire case, in 53 00:03:19,720 --> 00:03:24,560 Speaker 1: the entire prosecution, not just case specific evidence. So what's 54 00:03:24,600 --> 00:03:30,120 Speaker 1: happening is the DJ of producing very tight brief, cherry 55 00:03:30,280 --> 00:03:34,639 Speaker 1: picked clips. They enter those that those clips in evidence 56 00:03:34,760 --> 00:03:38,640 Speaker 1: either for pre trialed attention hearings or sentencing or at trial. 57 00:03:39,440 --> 00:03:43,520 Speaker 1: Those clips are under protective orders. People the defendants have 58 00:03:43,600 --> 00:03:46,720 Speaker 1: to sign off on protective orders. So there's very tight 59 00:03:46,800 --> 00:03:50,680 Speaker 1: rules as to how the defendants can view this evidence, 60 00:03:50,880 --> 00:03:54,920 Speaker 1: especially if they're incarcerated under pre trialed attention orders, and 61 00:03:54,960 --> 00:03:58,720 Speaker 1: then how defense attorneys can use it. So you know, 62 00:03:58,880 --> 00:04:01,600 Speaker 1: this is a hiden seek game that the government's been 63 00:04:01,600 --> 00:04:06,240 Speaker 1: playing for two years. House Democrats, though, have this entire trow, 64 00:04:06,440 --> 00:04:10,120 Speaker 1: the forty four forty four thousand hours, which represents the 65 00:04:10,360 --> 00:04:14,560 Speaker 1: entire twenty four hour period of January six. They've had 66 00:04:14,640 --> 00:04:16,599 Speaker 1: that for two years. They could have released this to 67 00:04:16,640 --> 00:04:20,359 Speaker 1: whomever they wanted, but they have also been complicit in 68 00:04:20,480 --> 00:04:25,800 Speaker 1: concealing very likely exculpatory evidence from defendants. This is a 69 00:04:25,880 --> 00:04:33,160 Speaker 1: constitutional crisis. This violates so many constitutional rights. And the 70 00:04:33,279 --> 00:04:35,640 Speaker 1: judges on the DC District Court, I have to tell 71 00:04:35,680 --> 00:04:38,440 Speaker 1: you they're the real villains here because they've been watching 72 00:04:38,440 --> 00:04:41,440 Speaker 1: this unfold. They've allowed it to happen. They have not 73 00:04:41,560 --> 00:04:44,760 Speaker 1: protected the due process rights of these defendants. There's so 74 00:04:44,800 --> 00:04:46,840 Speaker 1: many bad guys in this, but I have to point 75 00:04:46,839 --> 00:04:50,839 Speaker 1: to especially the judges who've let us continue. Julie, you've 76 00:04:50,880 --> 00:04:53,520 Speaker 1: talked about the fact that many people have just let 77 00:04:53,600 --> 00:04:57,440 Speaker 1: these January six political prisoners be left to their own devices. 78 00:04:57,920 --> 00:04:59,960 Speaker 1: Very few people are drawing attention to them. I don't 79 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:02,200 Speaker 1: know what the number is, but a lot of these 80 00:05:02,680 --> 00:05:07,120 Speaker 1: guys mostly men were held in solitary confinement for months 81 00:05:07,240 --> 00:05:10,080 Speaker 1: before their trial was going on. What do we know 82 00:05:10,120 --> 00:05:13,800 Speaker 1: about who's still being held basically as a political prisoner, 83 00:05:14,040 --> 00:05:16,760 Speaker 1: And how does the release of this footage change the 84 00:05:16,800 --> 00:05:22,120 Speaker 1: pressure that might be on these cases. So it's a 85 00:05:22,200 --> 00:05:25,120 Speaker 1: little bit harder to tell now, buck, who is under 86 00:05:25,120 --> 00:05:28,680 Speaker 1: pre trild attention, who's been sentenced, who's taken cle deals. 87 00:05:28,720 --> 00:05:31,640 Speaker 1: The government just brabbed DOJ this week that they have 88 00:05:31,880 --> 00:05:36,520 Speaker 1: a thousand total defendants, more than half have accepted cle deals, 89 00:05:36,560 --> 00:05:38,520 Speaker 1: and so it's kind of hard to tell who's in 90 00:05:38,560 --> 00:05:41,320 Speaker 1: pre trial who hasn't been But I can safely say 91 00:05:41,360 --> 00:05:44,440 Speaker 1: that over a hundred defendants at one point have been 92 00:05:44,480 --> 00:05:49,600 Speaker 1: denied bail and kept some now approaching two years. If 93 00:05:49,640 --> 00:05:53,960 Speaker 1: you can believe it, I mean, that's insane. Wait, so 94 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:56,400 Speaker 1: that means that you're telling us there are still people 95 00:05:57,040 --> 00:06:01,279 Speaker 1: who are being held. Oh, yes, there are people. There 96 00:06:01,320 --> 00:06:06,440 Speaker 1: are members of the Proud Boys who face seditious conspiracy charges. 97 00:06:06,680 --> 00:06:09,960 Speaker 1: Only one has a violent charge against him breaking a window. 98 00:06:10,040 --> 00:06:13,880 Speaker 1: The others have no violent charges, not assaulting police officers, 99 00:06:13,920 --> 00:06:18,120 Speaker 1: not bringing a weapon, vandalism, nothing. They have been held 100 00:06:18,279 --> 00:06:21,720 Speaker 1: behind bars for two years. One of them more than 101 00:06:21,760 --> 00:06:24,880 Speaker 1: two years. Their trial is going on right now in Washington, DC. 102 00:06:25,680 --> 00:06:28,520 Speaker 1: They were in jail almost two years before they even 103 00:06:28,560 --> 00:06:32,560 Speaker 1: got jury selection. There is another man, William Crestman, who 104 00:06:32,560 --> 00:06:35,159 Speaker 1: has been in the DC Goulac since January of twenty 105 00:06:35,200 --> 00:06:38,080 Speaker 1: twenty one. He doesn't even have a trial date yet. 106 00:06:38,800 --> 00:06:42,400 Speaker 1: So these are just a few examples of the as 107 00:06:42,440 --> 00:06:46,839 Speaker 1: I say, constitutional crisis. What's happening because there's a special 108 00:06:46,880 --> 00:06:49,679 Speaker 1: set of rules clay In book that the Chief Judge 109 00:06:49,680 --> 00:06:53,680 Speaker 1: of the DC District Court outlined early on how judges 110 00:06:53,760 --> 00:06:57,080 Speaker 1: and the government could determine who would be denied bail 111 00:06:57,200 --> 00:07:00,599 Speaker 1: who wouldn't, And it's strictly based on their involvement in 112 00:07:00,680 --> 00:07:06,039 Speaker 1: this four hour disturbance on January sixth. They are political prisoners. 113 00:07:06,200 --> 00:07:09,800 Speaker 1: I consider all of them political prisoners, even those who 114 00:07:09,840 --> 00:07:14,600 Speaker 1: were found guilty at trial. Outrageous sentences being handed down, 115 00:07:15,040 --> 00:07:17,880 Speaker 1: I mean months in prison for parading in the capital, 116 00:07:18,360 --> 00:07:24,200 Speaker 1: a low level claspy misdemeanor. This never happened before. And 117 00:07:24,200 --> 00:07:25,920 Speaker 1: so the end, Well, can I ask you, Julie, well, 118 00:07:25,920 --> 00:07:27,920 Speaker 1: whatever happened to the right, I'm pretty sure we have 119 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:31,520 Speaker 1: one to the accused shall enjoy the right to a 120 00:07:31,640 --> 00:07:35,360 Speaker 1: speedy and public trial. Whatever happened to that that this 121 00:07:35,440 --> 00:07:37,400 Speaker 1: is not No one thinks this is speedy. This wouldn't 122 00:07:37,440 --> 00:07:41,600 Speaker 1: be speedy in the Soviet Union, it wouldn't. I mean, 123 00:07:41,640 --> 00:07:45,440 Speaker 1: I think Putin is looking in with envy at what 124 00:07:45,600 --> 00:07:49,559 Speaker 1: is happening in our nation's capital, judicial and legal system. 125 00:07:49,600 --> 00:07:52,920 Speaker 1: And so yes, the speedy trial clock keeps getting told. 126 00:07:52,920 --> 00:07:56,240 Speaker 1: They keep exempting time from it because here's the trick 127 00:07:56,360 --> 00:08:00,640 Speaker 1: DJ use it. They supersede indict people, which they add 128 00:08:00,720 --> 00:08:05,760 Speaker 1: charges or they add descendants. So this forces the descendants, 129 00:08:05,800 --> 00:08:10,640 Speaker 1: the defense attorneys to basically start from scratch because they 130 00:08:10,720 --> 00:08:13,440 Speaker 1: wanted to delay a lot of these trials. They wanted, 131 00:08:13,480 --> 00:08:16,679 Speaker 1: for example, the oathkeeper's trial to coincide with the midterm 132 00:08:16,720 --> 00:08:20,400 Speaker 1: elections in the January sixth committee, which is exactly what happened. 133 00:08:20,440 --> 00:08:25,080 Speaker 1: We haven't even talked about that conflict of interest. But 134 00:08:25,440 --> 00:08:28,400 Speaker 1: the judges are nothing more than a rubber stamp for 135 00:08:28,480 --> 00:08:32,200 Speaker 1: this DOJ. They are the ones who are allowing this 136 00:08:32,320 --> 00:08:36,120 Speaker 1: to happen. So the Speedy Trial Act means nothing. Presumption 137 00:08:36,120 --> 00:08:41,199 Speaker 1: of innocence means nothing. Simply because they protested Joe Biden's election, 138 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:46,640 Speaker 1: they are considered domestic terrorists. That's what this FBI has said. 139 00:08:48,240 --> 00:08:51,079 Speaker 1: So Julie, where do we go from here? So Tucker 140 00:08:51,240 --> 00:08:54,199 Speaker 1: presumably is going to show more footage tonight. And what 141 00:08:54,280 --> 00:08:57,880 Speaker 1: I said was in the first hour, essentially we had 142 00:08:57,880 --> 00:09:00,439 Speaker 1: a show trial, right the prosecution, and that is the 143 00:09:00,520 --> 00:09:03,640 Speaker 1: January six committee members got to come out with no 144 00:09:03,720 --> 00:09:07,640 Speaker 1: opposition and make their case on why January sixth was, 145 00:09:07,960 --> 00:09:10,520 Speaker 1: as Karine, Jean Pierre and others in the administration have 146 00:09:10,559 --> 00:09:13,400 Speaker 1: said it, including Joe Biden, the most dangerous threat to 147 00:09:13,400 --> 00:09:15,800 Speaker 1: our democracy since the Civil War. I mean, that is 148 00:09:15,840 --> 00:09:18,920 Speaker 1: legitimately what they've tried to argue. And now what Tucker 149 00:09:19,000 --> 00:09:21,920 Speaker 1: is doing in some sense is providing the defense right 150 00:09:21,960 --> 00:09:26,440 Speaker 1: the further context, Hey, QAnon Shaman was not actually the 151 00:09:26,440 --> 00:09:30,760 Speaker 1: most dangerous human being on the planet January sixth, The 152 00:09:30,920 --> 00:09:34,760 Speaker 1: Brian Sicknick was not pummeled to death by protesters. In fact, 153 00:09:34,800 --> 00:09:37,959 Speaker 1: here's video of him continuing to move throughout the Capitol 154 00:09:38,040 --> 00:09:40,640 Speaker 1: to prove that he didn't die on that day from 155 00:09:40,679 --> 00:09:46,280 Speaker 1: attack from January sixth trespassers, where do we go from here? Like, 156 00:09:46,440 --> 00:09:48,880 Speaker 1: what is the next step in your mind? Now that 157 00:09:48,920 --> 00:09:52,200 Speaker 1: we've effectively gotten at least some form of the counter 158 00:09:52,360 --> 00:09:56,520 Speaker 1: narrative out there. So two things are going to happen. One, 159 00:09:56,559 --> 00:10:00,160 Speaker 1: you already see defense attorneys filing emergency motions and are 160 00:10:00,679 --> 00:10:05,920 Speaker 1: asking a judge to demand this extended trove of footage, 161 00:10:05,920 --> 00:10:09,040 Speaker 1: the forty four thousand hours. They want to see all 162 00:10:09,080 --> 00:10:12,200 Speaker 1: of that to see what other exculpatory evidence there could be, 163 00:10:12,280 --> 00:10:15,760 Speaker 1: like we saw Jacob chans Ley's case. The next step 164 00:10:16,040 --> 00:10:18,679 Speaker 1: is if the judges won't step up, which they won't. 165 00:10:18,800 --> 00:10:21,680 Speaker 1: I've watched this court for two years in horror. Is 166 00:10:21,720 --> 00:10:26,080 Speaker 1: for Congress then House Republicans, who technically own that footage 167 00:10:26,080 --> 00:10:28,640 Speaker 1: even though belongs to Capitol Police, they're part of the 168 00:10:28,760 --> 00:10:33,439 Speaker 1: legislative branch. That's their boss. Kevin McCarthy is then to 169 00:10:33,480 --> 00:10:36,719 Speaker 1: make sure that this is accessible in some ways to 170 00:10:36,920 --> 00:10:39,880 Speaker 1: the defense attorneys, that they can produce clips and that 171 00:10:40,040 --> 00:10:43,800 Speaker 1: the government has withheld, and then they can enter those 172 00:10:43,840 --> 00:10:49,520 Speaker 1: two either drop cases, dismiscounts, release people from jail, but 173 00:10:49,640 --> 00:10:52,520 Speaker 1: certainly to be used in any sort of plea agreement 174 00:10:52,720 --> 00:10:55,000 Speaker 1: or a jury trial. Julie, do you think it would 175 00:10:55,000 --> 00:10:57,920 Speaker 1: make sense? And I'm using this example just because I 176 00:10:57,960 --> 00:11:00,600 Speaker 1: do think this is such a voluminous amount of data 177 00:11:00,679 --> 00:11:03,920 Speaker 1: in the wiki links trove. Right. The idea was, let's 178 00:11:03,960 --> 00:11:07,200 Speaker 1: put everything out there and will allow individuals to go 179 00:11:07,320 --> 00:11:10,120 Speaker 1: through it. In your mind, is there a benefit? Much 180 00:11:10,120 --> 00:11:13,240 Speaker 1: of this forty four thousand hours is basically empty rooms, right, 181 00:11:13,240 --> 00:11:15,520 Speaker 1: because it's twenty four hours, Like I don't know how 182 00:11:15,520 --> 00:11:18,840 Speaker 1: many total hours of you know, I would say relevant 183 00:11:19,360 --> 00:11:21,920 Speaker 1: data there is, But what it makes sense to you 184 00:11:22,000 --> 00:11:24,719 Speaker 1: for the House Republicans, once Tucker is through and has 185 00:11:24,760 --> 00:11:27,160 Speaker 1: done his reports and has pulled the stuff out, to 186 00:11:27,200 --> 00:11:30,400 Speaker 1: just put all this available online so that the American public, 187 00:11:30,640 --> 00:11:33,839 Speaker 1: regardless of their political persuasions, could have access and go watch. 188 00:11:34,800 --> 00:11:37,400 Speaker 1: I absolutely do, and I hope that somewhere down the 189 00:11:37,440 --> 00:11:40,320 Speaker 1: road that that is going to happen. But you already 190 00:11:40,360 --> 00:11:43,200 Speaker 1: see Capital police pushing back today. You had the police 191 00:11:43,280 --> 00:11:46,440 Speaker 1: chief come out and say that the clips were misrepresented, 192 00:11:46,800 --> 00:11:50,120 Speaker 1: that police officers were not escorting Jacob Chansley, Like we're 193 00:11:50,160 --> 00:11:52,959 Speaker 1: supposed to not believe our own eyes. So this will 194 00:11:53,000 --> 00:11:56,319 Speaker 1: be a huge battle to get the relevant segments, as 195 00:11:56,360 --> 00:12:00,360 Speaker 1: you said, uploaded onto a platform. But we really need 196 00:12:00,559 --> 00:12:02,960 Speaker 1: to get that done. And I will say for those 197 00:12:03,000 --> 00:12:05,760 Speaker 1: who wanted that done immediately, you see why it was 198 00:12:05,800 --> 00:12:08,640 Speaker 1: smart for Tucker to do this. If you flooded the 199 00:12:08,720 --> 00:12:11,959 Speaker 1: zone with a bunch of random clips. Very few people 200 00:12:12,040 --> 00:12:15,160 Speaker 1: understand this issue. Is carefully say I do, or Tucker 201 00:12:15,440 --> 00:12:18,360 Speaker 1: or a handful of journalists. You flood the zone, it 202 00:12:18,360 --> 00:12:21,520 Speaker 1: has no impact. This is a surgical strike by this 203 00:12:21,600 --> 00:12:23,600 Speaker 1: is honestly starting to cut you off, Julie. But that's 204 00:12:23,640 --> 00:12:25,720 Speaker 1: one of the problems with the Twitter files. I think 205 00:12:25,840 --> 00:12:27,920 Speaker 1: has been the way that they distributed them, and they 206 00:12:27,960 --> 00:12:31,880 Speaker 1: haven't gotten to pick up that I think they deserved, right. 207 00:12:32,040 --> 00:12:36,240 Speaker 1: I think that that was sort of illustrative of how 208 00:12:36,320 --> 00:12:40,080 Speaker 1: things can just get watered down. That's exactly what would 209 00:12:40,080 --> 00:12:42,440 Speaker 1: have happened if this would have been made available, even 210 00:12:42,440 --> 00:12:47,199 Speaker 1: to people like me. Surgical strike, huge impact, the panic 211 00:12:47,240 --> 00:12:49,800 Speaker 1: in Washington and in the news media, and I have 212 00:12:49,880 --> 00:12:54,760 Speaker 1: to believe that the Department of Justice is palpable. So 213 00:12:54,960 --> 00:12:57,280 Speaker 1: this is why it was so smart to give this 214 00:12:57,360 --> 00:13:01,600 Speaker 1: to Tucker. Is team so profession they know this issue, 215 00:13:01,600 --> 00:13:04,240 Speaker 1: they know what to look for, and that's why you 216 00:13:04,280 --> 00:13:06,480 Speaker 1: know what happened last night, and there's there's more to 217 00:13:06,520 --> 00:13:08,880 Speaker 1: come tonight. Julie just wanted to ask I'd meant to 218 00:13:08,880 --> 00:13:13,319 Speaker 1: ask you this earlier. The DC jury pool is obviously 219 00:13:14,559 --> 00:13:20,760 Speaker 1: ferociously hostile to anybody involved in or accused of involvement 220 00:13:20,760 --> 00:13:23,400 Speaker 1: in January sixth in any capacity, even the people that 221 00:13:23,480 --> 00:13:25,480 Speaker 1: were just kind of walking around with fanny packs on 222 00:13:25,559 --> 00:13:30,400 Speaker 1: taking selfies. But have the judges just effectively denied all 223 00:13:30,840 --> 00:13:33,520 Speaker 1: requests for anyone who has actually gone to trial for 224 00:13:33,640 --> 00:13:36,600 Speaker 1: a change of venue. Has that been their their mo 225 00:13:36,800 --> 00:13:39,240 Speaker 1: It just seems it just seems like the most most 226 00:13:39,280 --> 00:13:42,559 Speaker 1: basic fairness would would require them to move this out 227 00:13:42,600 --> 00:13:45,559 Speaker 1: of DC because they can't get a fair jury trial. 228 00:13:46,880 --> 00:13:50,560 Speaker 1: Great question. The first trial was one year ago March 229 00:13:50,640 --> 00:13:54,760 Speaker 1: of twenty twenty two. Since that time, DJ has about 230 00:13:54,760 --> 00:13:59,840 Speaker 1: a ninety nine percent conviction rate in jury trials. Every 231 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:05,280 Speaker 1: single judge has denied numerous occasions on numerous motions, denied 232 00:14:05,480 --> 00:14:09,120 Speaker 1: change of venue motions, even though they know how highly 233 00:14:09,200 --> 00:14:12,400 Speaker 1: part is in the city, is how differently they take 234 00:14:12,440 --> 00:14:15,120 Speaker 1: the events of January sixth than any other city. We 235 00:14:15,240 --> 00:14:18,520 Speaker 1: have surveys that show that there's data that shows Google 236 00:14:18,559 --> 00:14:22,240 Speaker 1: searches related to January sixth that show, you know, this 237 00:14:22,400 --> 00:14:25,160 Speaker 1: huge heat map in the nation's capital versus the rest 238 00:14:25,160 --> 00:14:28,280 Speaker 1: of the country where no one really cared. You know, 239 00:14:28,320 --> 00:14:30,320 Speaker 1: I was just at the proud Boys trial. You have 240 00:14:31,440 --> 00:14:34,960 Speaker 1: at least seven jurors who admitted to participating in left 241 00:14:35,000 --> 00:14:40,120 Speaker 1: wing demonstrations, whether it was anti gun, BLM, the Women's March. 242 00:14:40,360 --> 00:14:44,760 Speaker 1: Not a single one participated in a conservative demonstration. But 243 00:14:44,880 --> 00:14:48,960 Speaker 1: yet the judges are convinced, or they've convinced themselves, or 244 00:14:49,000 --> 00:14:51,720 Speaker 1: they're in on it because it's so rigged. They know 245 00:14:52,680 --> 00:14:55,800 Speaker 1: they want these guilty verdicts, especially the judges who have 246 00:14:55,880 --> 00:14:59,280 Speaker 1: kept men in pre trial's attention. They want to be exonerated. 247 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:02,480 Speaker 1: If you've kept defendant like the Proud Boys in jail 248 00:15:02,520 --> 00:15:06,800 Speaker 1: for two years pre trialed attention on conspiracy charges, you 249 00:15:06,920 --> 00:15:10,840 Speaker 1: want them convicted because it exonerates you for the torture 250 00:15:11,240 --> 00:15:14,800 Speaker 1: you've inflicted on these men. So they have a solid 251 00:15:14,840 --> 00:15:17,520 Speaker 1: investment in guilty verdicts. I'm telling you it is the 252 00:15:17,560 --> 00:15:20,240 Speaker 1: most twisted thing I've ever seen in my life. I'm 253 00:15:20,280 --> 00:15:23,720 Speaker 1: not an attorney, but I never thought our system of 254 00:15:23,760 --> 00:15:26,520 Speaker 1: justice would work the way that it is in our 255 00:15:26,600 --> 00:15:30,440 Speaker 1: nation's capital, which should be the sterling example of how 256 00:15:30,480 --> 00:15:36,640 Speaker 1: America's justice system should operate, and it is a Banana republic. Julie, 257 00:15:36,840 --> 00:15:39,800 Speaker 1: you are absolutely killing it. 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We 324 00:19:09,960 --> 00:19:13,879 Speaker 1: are joined now by our friend Carol Markowitz, who has 325 00:19:13,880 --> 00:19:16,560 Speaker 1: a book that came out comes out today, doesn't it 326 00:19:17,320 --> 00:19:20,600 Speaker 1: the book? Yeah, it's Stolen Youth, How radicals are racing 327 00:19:20,640 --> 00:19:25,679 Speaker 1: innocence and indoctrinating a generation. Co writer Bethany Mandel, I 328 00:19:25,760 --> 00:19:29,080 Speaker 1: believe you are in Texas right now. If I remember Gregly, 329 00:19:29,080 --> 00:19:31,199 Speaker 1: your husband is a Dallas Cowboy fan. Is it just 330 00:19:31,240 --> 00:19:33,359 Speaker 1: a reminder of how much the Cowboys stink and are 331 00:19:33,400 --> 00:19:37,199 Speaker 1: never gonna win anything? When you're in Texas well, I 332 00:19:37,280 --> 00:19:41,120 Speaker 1: like seeing the cowboys paraphernalia everywhere. That's really a good time. 333 00:19:41,280 --> 00:19:44,640 Speaker 1: And you know, I think they're gonna win something next year. 334 00:19:44,800 --> 00:19:48,439 Speaker 1: Actually actually, actually actually I don't think they are. But 335 00:19:48,520 --> 00:19:51,439 Speaker 1: in all seriousness, congratulations on this book. We know you 336 00:19:51,480 --> 00:19:53,000 Speaker 1: live in Florida. You've been coming on the show for 337 00:19:53,080 --> 00:19:56,439 Speaker 1: a couple of years now with us. How happy are you? 338 00:19:56,440 --> 00:19:58,359 Speaker 1: Because I always like to start with this for people 339 00:19:58,359 --> 00:20:01,239 Speaker 1: out there who have kids, how much better is your 340 00:20:01,280 --> 00:20:04,240 Speaker 1: family's life in Florida than it was in New York 341 00:20:04,320 --> 00:20:09,080 Speaker 1: so far? So it's really immeasurable. I'm so much happier 342 00:20:09,320 --> 00:20:12,679 Speaker 1: with every aspect of our family life in Florida. My 343 00:20:12,800 --> 00:20:15,119 Speaker 1: kids go to schools where I don't have to worry 344 00:20:15,200 --> 00:20:19,119 Speaker 1: as much about vocalism being targeted to them, and I 345 00:20:19,160 --> 00:20:21,720 Speaker 1: don't have to worry as much about them being indoctrinated. 346 00:20:22,240 --> 00:20:24,920 Speaker 1: Having said all that, in our book, we really cover 347 00:20:25,160 --> 00:20:27,480 Speaker 1: that just because you live in a red state or 348 00:20:27,480 --> 00:20:30,280 Speaker 1: a red city or a red town in a red enclave, 349 00:20:30,640 --> 00:20:33,280 Speaker 1: and you think that you're safe, you're not. This is 350 00:20:33,320 --> 00:20:36,399 Speaker 1: coming for all of our kids. This indoctrination is happening 351 00:20:36,400 --> 00:20:39,400 Speaker 1: all over the country. And while I feel a lot 352 00:20:39,440 --> 00:20:42,040 Speaker 1: more peace than I did living in deep, deep, deep 353 00:20:42,040 --> 00:20:45,080 Speaker 1: blue Brooklyn, I still am on alert and I still 354 00:20:45,200 --> 00:20:46,720 Speaker 1: know that I have to watch out for what my 355 00:20:46,800 --> 00:20:49,160 Speaker 1: kids are getting in school, what they're getting at all 356 00:20:49,200 --> 00:20:51,600 Speaker 1: different kinds of activities, even what they're getting at the 357 00:20:51,640 --> 00:20:55,520 Speaker 1: pediatrician's office. Hey Carol, it's buck, So do you go 358 00:20:55,760 --> 00:20:59,520 Speaker 1: through the various stages in the book, I mean, how 359 00:20:59,760 --> 00:21:04,240 Speaker 1: do you structure the indoctrination process where everyone understands, because 360 00:21:04,520 --> 00:21:06,520 Speaker 1: it seems like one thing we've just noticed from the 361 00:21:06,600 --> 00:21:11,120 Speaker 1: media and from people like lives of TikTok and Chris 362 00:21:11,240 --> 00:21:15,960 Speaker 1: Rufo and the actual information the video and curricula that 363 00:21:15,960 --> 00:21:19,400 Speaker 1: are being exposed is that they're they're going after kids 364 00:21:19,400 --> 00:21:22,440 Speaker 1: in the younger and younger ages to try to get 365 00:21:22,480 --> 00:21:25,879 Speaker 1: their their neurons and their circuits pointing in a certain 366 00:21:25,880 --> 00:21:29,920 Speaker 1: direction exactly. And why we wanted to write Stolen Youth 367 00:21:30,080 --> 00:21:32,800 Speaker 1: was because we saw so many books about the targeting 368 00:21:32,880 --> 00:21:36,600 Speaker 1: of college students and you know, the targeting of employees 369 00:21:36,600 --> 00:21:41,400 Speaker 1: at corporations, but nothing that described how early this was happening. 370 00:21:41,640 --> 00:21:43,439 Speaker 1: So the way we structure it we opened with a 371 00:21:43,520 --> 00:21:46,679 Speaker 1: history chapter onto telitarian societies of the past and the 372 00:21:46,720 --> 00:21:49,560 Speaker 1: way that they targeted children fir indoctrination and the way 373 00:21:49,560 --> 00:21:53,439 Speaker 1: that they separated families. They made sure it's keep things secret, comparents, 374 00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:58,080 Speaker 1: and so we trace this leftism that has gripped our 375 00:21:58,119 --> 00:22:00,840 Speaker 1: society and the way that it's gripped iteas in the past, 376 00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:04,080 Speaker 1: and how it's implemented through force, and then we talk 377 00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:07,040 Speaker 1: about COVID has a chapter in the book and about 378 00:22:07,080 --> 00:22:09,160 Speaker 1: how that was the awakening of a lot of parents 379 00:22:09,240 --> 00:22:12,080 Speaker 1: to really what was going on. And then we focus 380 00:22:12,160 --> 00:22:16,800 Speaker 1: on schools or institutions, licensing agencies, all the ways that 381 00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:19,960 Speaker 1: all of these people are talking with one voice, one 382 00:22:20,040 --> 00:22:22,520 Speaker 1: way to describe, one way to think about anything, one 383 00:22:22,560 --> 00:22:24,479 Speaker 1: way to speak about anything. You know, you can't be 384 00:22:24,840 --> 00:22:27,440 Speaker 1: not racist, right, you have to be anti racist, and 385 00:22:27,640 --> 00:22:29,840 Speaker 1: just saying no, I'm not racist is nowhere near or 386 00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:33,240 Speaker 1: not anymore. So it's very Soviet the way that they 387 00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:36,960 Speaker 1: demand this spectacle of all of us, and so many 388 00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:39,000 Speaker 1: people are just willing to go along with it. But 389 00:22:39,520 --> 00:22:42,200 Speaker 1: there's real danger to what they're doing, and there's real 390 00:22:42,280 --> 00:22:46,359 Speaker 1: danger specifically to children, over what they're doing. Carol Bucket 391 00:22:46,280 --> 00:22:48,239 Speaker 1: and I were talking, and I'm sure you saw this 392 00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:52,000 Speaker 1: controversy and have been following it, this whole drag show thing. 393 00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:53,840 Speaker 1: And I don't know whether you touch on it in 394 00:22:53,880 --> 00:22:57,000 Speaker 1: the book or not, but when I watch these videos, 395 00:22:57,160 --> 00:23:02,760 Speaker 1: what I am seeing is white mom overwhelmingly seem interested 396 00:23:02,800 --> 00:23:06,160 Speaker 1: in taking their young daughters, maybe young sons as well, 397 00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:10,480 Speaker 1: to these drag shows. And there's almost no men buy 398 00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:12,720 Speaker 1: in large, like it's all like it feels like moms 399 00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:15,800 Speaker 1: at brunch, what's going on here? Because as a dad, 400 00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:18,040 Speaker 1: I sit back and say and Buck and I talked 401 00:23:18,040 --> 00:23:19,760 Speaker 1: about it, like if I took one of my boys 402 00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:23,200 Speaker 1: to like an actual strip show or like a pasty 403 00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:26,520 Speaker 1: show with a legitimate woman like dancing around in high 404 00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:29,359 Speaker 1: heels and a thong and like pasties one, my wife 405 00:23:29,359 --> 00:23:32,119 Speaker 1: would probably kill me too. I really think that I 406 00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:35,760 Speaker 1: might get prosecuted as a dad for bringing a child 407 00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:39,280 Speaker 1: to an event like that. How has this gotten so mainstream? 408 00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:42,000 Speaker 1: And what do you think the moms who overwhelmingly seem 409 00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:44,600 Speaker 1: to be involved in seems like white suburban moms. What 410 00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:48,439 Speaker 1: are they thinking here? Isn't it interesting that if you 411 00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:51,399 Speaker 1: did that you would get in trouble and obviously, like, 412 00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:53,480 Speaker 1: let's say you're the kind of crazy parent to do that. 413 00:23:53,560 --> 00:23:55,399 Speaker 1: Would you take a video of it and put it 414 00:23:55,440 --> 00:23:57,560 Speaker 1: on your social media and be like, look, Carol, if 415 00:23:57,600 --> 00:23:59,800 Speaker 1: I took if I took one of my boys to 416 00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:03,320 Speaker 1: a like, you know, like strip type show, right, Like, 417 00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:06,320 Speaker 1: I really think that I would get charged with a 418 00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:09,159 Speaker 1: crime and get arrested, right. But I would also not 419 00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:12,199 Speaker 1: even contemplated because it's such a crazy thing to do 420 00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:14,760 Speaker 1: as a parent, yet it's become normal. I just I 421 00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:17,880 Speaker 1: really don't understand it what these women are thinking. So 422 00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:21,320 Speaker 1: it's interesting because they use the LGBT, you know plus 423 00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:24,200 Speaker 1: plus thing as cover. When you look at like the 424 00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:27,600 Speaker 1: porn books that keep getting discovered in school libraries, they're 425 00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:31,000 Speaker 1: always on the LGBT theme. It's like it's somehow they 426 00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:33,600 Speaker 1: don't think that this is you know that this has 427 00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:37,480 Speaker 1: the same kind of connotations as as straight performances. Of course, 428 00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:39,560 Speaker 1: you would never allow a woman to grind up on 429 00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:41,960 Speaker 1: your child, but for some reason, because it's a man 430 00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:45,240 Speaker 1: justin drag, that should be okay. I think that so 431 00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:48,440 Speaker 1: much of this is the conformist push from the left 432 00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:50,760 Speaker 1: to be like, we are okay with this. If you're 433 00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:52,679 Speaker 1: not okay with this, maybe you're not part of our 434 00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:56,760 Speaker 1: wee And that kind of in group thinking is really powerful. 435 00:24:56,880 --> 00:24:59,480 Speaker 1: People really want to be part of the in group, 436 00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:01,720 Speaker 1: and so when you see these women taking their kids, 437 00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:04,240 Speaker 1: they just want to belong. That's what I think. I 438 00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:07,160 Speaker 1: think that they're saying that we do this now, we're 439 00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:09,399 Speaker 1: okay with this, and if you're not, you're not in 440 00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:12,760 Speaker 1: the group. So we talk a lot about conformity and 441 00:25:12,800 --> 00:25:15,080 Speaker 1: stolen news. We talk a lot about the way it's 442 00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:19,520 Speaker 1: worced on people that conformity. But some people conform easier 443 00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:22,080 Speaker 1: than others, and some people want to belong so badly 444 00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:23,959 Speaker 1: that they'll do this kind of thing to their children. 445 00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:27,240 Speaker 1: Speaking to Carol Marko, It's co author of Stolen Youth, 446 00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:31,639 Speaker 1: how radicals are racing innocence and indoctrinating a generation, and 447 00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:34,719 Speaker 1: of course give our regards Carol to Bethany Mendelier, your 448 00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:38,399 Speaker 1: co authors done a great job on this book. The 449 00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:41,840 Speaker 1: teachers unions, do you go Do you go after those 450 00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:46,919 Speaker 1: commy evildoers as well? I'm just wondering, like, does that 451 00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:49,720 Speaker 1: because it feels like to me they're they're the political 452 00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:54,360 Speaker 1: muscle that gives cover to the most lunatic indoctrination measures 453 00:25:54,359 --> 00:25:58,520 Speaker 1: that are happening in the schools. Absolutely and so throughout COVID. 454 00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:00,520 Speaker 1: The thing that I would say about the teacher unions 455 00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:03,520 Speaker 1: is like they're not particularly strong. It's that the politicians 456 00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:07,280 Speaker 1: are weak. So it's that they prey on these weak 457 00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:09,920 Speaker 1: politicians who don't stand up for children and don't stand 458 00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:11,919 Speaker 1: up for the right thing, and they force them to 459 00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:14,360 Speaker 1: do the right you know, what they want. And this 460 00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:19,399 Speaker 1: isn't only Democrats, you know, like I think Maryland's governor 461 00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:21,920 Speaker 1: was Republican and he really didn't stand up for kids 462 00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:26,480 Speaker 1: at all. These people are are forcing their way into 463 00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:29,960 Speaker 1: our kids' lives and the fact that people are letting 464 00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:32,680 Speaker 1: it happen. You can't really just hold the teachers unions 465 00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:35,320 Speaker 1: accountable just them anymore. It has to be all the 466 00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:37,720 Speaker 1: people who are giving them power, all the politicians who 467 00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:41,000 Speaker 1: don't do the right thing, and all the school administrators 468 00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:43,440 Speaker 1: who continue to listen to these people. You can have 469 00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:45,720 Speaker 1: your own opinion and say no, I'm not doing this. 470 00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:47,560 Speaker 1: And the one thing I want to really point out 471 00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:51,800 Speaker 1: to people is that this leftism, the vocalism, is deeply unpopular. 472 00:26:52,119 --> 00:26:54,240 Speaker 1: They have to do it through force because there's no 473 00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:55,679 Speaker 1: other way to do it. They have to do it 474 00:26:55,720 --> 00:26:57,719 Speaker 1: through secrecy, and they have to make sure that parents 475 00:26:57,720 --> 00:26:59,840 Speaker 1: don't know what's really going on. You know, I like this. 476 00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:02,479 Speaker 1: They don't run on let's get porn in the school 477 00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:06,040 Speaker 1: library mail platform because they know that parents won't like that, 478 00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:08,439 Speaker 1: so they have to do it in secrecy. And the 479 00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:10,760 Speaker 1: reason for our book we wanted to write Stolen Use 480 00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:13,399 Speaker 1: so that people will not have the excuse to be 481 00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:15,719 Speaker 1: like I didn't know, I didn't hear about this. I 482 00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:19,800 Speaker 1: wasn't sure. You know it's happening. You have to fight it, Carol, 483 00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:22,439 Speaker 1: I think you nailed the answer about what these moms 484 00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:27,800 Speaker 1: are thinking on going to these transgender shows. This sort 485 00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:30,800 Speaker 1: of craziness one thing that I wonder and I think 486 00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:32,480 Speaker 1: this is something that we can all do a better 487 00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:35,920 Speaker 1: job talking about this concept of banned books, and Buck 488 00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:37,520 Speaker 1: and I have been hammering it, but I think it'll 489 00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:39,840 Speaker 1: make sense to you as a parent as well. When 490 00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:42,520 Speaker 1: a movie is rated, are we don't say the movie 491 00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:45,760 Speaker 1: is banned because it isn't It's just not appropriate for 492 00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:49,080 Speaker 1: all ages to consume. I think this is one of 493 00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:51,080 Speaker 1: the things that Florida has to push back at, you know, 494 00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:53,959 Speaker 1: executives and everybody else, but also people in our world. 495 00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:58,360 Speaker 1: It's actually totally normal to decide what is age appropriate 496 00:27:58,359 --> 00:28:01,600 Speaker 1: for your child. And the way that band is being defined, 497 00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:04,080 Speaker 1: it's as if the book is being taken off the 498 00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:06,439 Speaker 1: shelves and burned and torn away, which is actually what 499 00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:09,640 Speaker 1: left wingers want to do. Everybody I hear is just saying, hey, 500 00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:12,080 Speaker 1: there is a time to learn about sexuality. It's just 501 00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:14,919 Speaker 1: not when you're six, right, I mean in the same way, 502 00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:18,200 Speaker 1: and everybody understands it in the concept of movies, because 503 00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:20,439 Speaker 1: most six year olds don't go to R rated movies, 504 00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:23,119 Speaker 1: but we don't say they're banned from the R rated movie. 505 00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:27,080 Speaker 1: That's right, But that's really giving these people the benefit 506 00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:29,359 Speaker 1: of the doubts that they're trying to be honest about it, 507 00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:31,320 Speaker 1: and I don't see a lot of evidence that they are. 508 00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:33,880 Speaker 1: They know what these books are inappropriate. They know what's 509 00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:37,480 Speaker 1: being pulled out of the libraries in Florida are deeply inappropriate. 510 00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:39,880 Speaker 1: So when you have these arguments, it's always like, that's 511 00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:41,680 Speaker 1: not really happening. And then you're like, here, you know 512 00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:44,920 Speaker 1: are ten examples of pornographic books in school libraries. It 513 00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:47,400 Speaker 1: is actually happening, And they're like, well, that's a really 514 00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:49,680 Speaker 1: small percentage of all the books, you know, of all 515 00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:52,320 Speaker 1: the schools in Florida, and so obviously this is crazy. 516 00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:56,040 Speaker 1: There's no The argument keeps shifting because they know they're 517 00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:58,440 Speaker 1: in the wrong here. If they and it goes for 518 00:28:58,560 --> 00:29:00,800 Speaker 1: so many things, if they would just say, okay, no 519 00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:04,000 Speaker 1: pornographic books in school libraries, and that would be it, 520 00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:05,880 Speaker 1: we would just pull the pornographic books and that's it. 521 00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:08,080 Speaker 1: If they would just say a lot of these teenage 522 00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:10,560 Speaker 1: girls who declare themselves trans are just going through a 523 00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:12,760 Speaker 1: phase and we shouldn't do anything about it. We shouldn't 524 00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:15,200 Speaker 1: be giving them puberty blockers or anything like that, that 525 00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:18,880 Speaker 1: that crisis would be mitigated. But they won't do that 526 00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:22,960 Speaker 1: because the ideology comes first, and the ideology says that 527 00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:26,040 Speaker 1: if conservatives want it, absolutely we have to fight tooth 528 00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:29,600 Speaker 1: and nail to keep it. And it's a really damaging 529 00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:32,920 Speaker 1: way to treat children. And so in Stolen Youths we 530 00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:35,320 Speaker 1: go through all the different ways that this is happening 531 00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:39,320 Speaker 1: throughout society, and it's not just in schools, it's everywhere. 532 00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:41,560 Speaker 1: When you go to a preediatrician's office and you say 533 00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:43,880 Speaker 1: that you know, my kid is having some gender questions, 534 00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:47,040 Speaker 1: the pediatrician has only one line that they're allowed to 535 00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:50,640 Speaker 1: deliver to you, and that's to absolutely confirm that that 536 00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:54,080 Speaker 1: child is probably trans and that and to affirm their 537 00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:57,440 Speaker 1: new identity. And that's a crazy way to behave and 538 00:29:57,520 --> 00:30:00,800 Speaker 1: no normal society should be accepting this. The book is 539 00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:04,680 Speaker 1: Stolen Youth, How radicals are racing innocence and indoctrinating a generation. 540 00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:07,360 Speaker 1: Go google it, Go pick up your copy of Stolen 541 00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:11,440 Speaker 1: Youth by Carol Markwitz and Bethany Mandel. Carol, our friend 542 00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:14,360 Speaker 1: and fantastical being with us. Great to talk to you. 543 00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:19,680 Speaker 1: Thank you. There are so many very powerful and often 544 00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:24,560 Speaker 1: ruthless advocates for what they term reproductive health, but not 545 00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:26,760 Speaker 1: nearly as many voices out there that you're going to 546 00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:29,480 Speaker 1: hear in the media for the life of an unborn child. 547 00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:33,160 Speaker 1: But there is an organization working overtime to help unborn 548 00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:36,959 Speaker 1: children come into this world. Preborn Network Clinics have rescued 549 00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:40,320 Speaker 1: over two hundred thousand babies lives. 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Use your CNB 582 00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:24,800 Speaker 1: twenty four to seven subscription to get access to the guys. 583 00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:27,480 Speaker 1: Fine the Clay and Buck app in your app store 584 00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:29,640 Speaker 1: and make it part of your day. You know, I 585 00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:32,760 Speaker 1: mentioned this before. I think we have an obligation your 586 00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:38,160 Speaker 1: Clay as wiser older gentlemen for the the gen Z 587 00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:41,360 Speaker 1: folks and the younger millennials out there. You're gen X, 588 00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:43,320 Speaker 1: so that's a whole on the last year of gen 589 00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:46,480 Speaker 1: X eight months I got in under the radar. You're 590 00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:51,120 Speaker 1: generation in American history that you honestly the generations that's 591 00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:55,120 Speaker 1: saving right now America from going completely to hell. But 592 00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:59,360 Speaker 1: you know, I like to give some some advice out 593 00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:02,880 Speaker 1: there to the you know, to the whipper snappers who 594 00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:05,760 Speaker 1: are coming up that Gen Z folks and whatever is 595 00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:10,800 Speaker 1: coming up below gen Z and let them know that 596 00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:14,320 Speaker 1: this idea because look, I understand if I was going 597 00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:18,000 Speaker 1: through being in my early twenties again and there were 598 00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:22,080 Speaker 1: people on college teams maybe already making millions of dollars 599 00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:25,680 Speaker 1: because of the name and likeness thing or even more common. 600 00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:29,239 Speaker 1: I think these days, are you know, YouTube influencers or 601 00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:32,760 Speaker 1: TikTok influencers who are getting brand deals. I mean there 602 00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:35,280 Speaker 1: are there are nineteen year old kids who are showing 603 00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:38,800 Speaker 1: up their campuses in a Lamborghini because they're selling you know, 604 00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:42,120 Speaker 1: some young woman is selling some kind of you know, 605 00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:44,320 Speaker 1: hair care products or something on TikTok. I mean, this 606 00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:47,800 Speaker 1: stuff is happening now, so grinding it out at a 607 00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:50,880 Speaker 1: job doesn't sound very appealing to a lot of people 608 00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:53,480 Speaker 1: right now. I can understand that, you know, the younger generation, 609 00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:56,040 Speaker 1: but we're here to tell you that there are some 610 00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:59,479 Speaker 1: strategies you should not you should not deploy. And this 611 00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:02,400 Speaker 1: reminds me remember we talked about quiet quitting, which I 612 00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:04,600 Speaker 1: referred to as the Wall Street Journal. It was a 613 00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:07,000 Speaker 1: front page article the Wall Street Journal about how post 614 00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:09,879 Speaker 1: pandemic people were quiet quitting their jobs, and I was like, yes, 615 00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:12,160 Speaker 1: this has existed for a long time. It's actually called 616 00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:16,360 Speaker 1: slow firing, as in, you are going to get fired eventually. 617 00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:19,520 Speaker 1: Like this quiet quitting thing of doing the bare minimum 618 00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:21,560 Speaker 1: always and refusing to ever go the extra mile. They're 619 00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:24,880 Speaker 1: gonna find somebody to replace you. Most likely but bare 620 00:34:25,160 --> 00:34:28,600 Speaker 1: minimum Monday. Have you seen? This is now a thing 621 00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:31,040 Speaker 1: that after the weekend, people say, I'm just gonna show 622 00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:32,960 Speaker 1: up and do the absolute bare minimum I can get 623 00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:36,680 Speaker 1: away with on Mondays. I think this is bad. I 624 00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:40,080 Speaker 1: think the opposite Sunday you should be obviously, you know 625 00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:43,319 Speaker 1: if it's those of you who practice day of going 626 00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:45,800 Speaker 1: for the going to church day of the Lord, Dave rest, 627 00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:49,160 Speaker 1: but get ready for the week with moment the worst 628 00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:51,319 Speaker 1: if you're gonna do bare minimum. I'm trying to say, Clay, 629 00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:54,799 Speaker 1: is be bare minimum Thursday or bare minimum Friday, bare 630 00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:58,319 Speaker 1: minimum Monday. It's this is like, this is like stumbling 631 00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:00,520 Speaker 1: up there when you're getting your award on stage. This 632 00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:02,960 Speaker 1: is the worst place to make the stumble. I know 633 00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:06,000 Speaker 1: I'm getting to be an old man because there are 634 00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:07,920 Speaker 1: so many people that I want to grab by the 635 00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:10,359 Speaker 1: scruff of the neck and just like lift them up. 636 00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:12,640 Speaker 1: If I were strong enough to do that and be like, 637 00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:15,640 Speaker 1: what are you doing with your life? It isn't that 638 00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:19,680 Speaker 1: hard to be successful at a job. And the number 639 00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:22,040 Speaker 1: of people that I see out and about who are 640 00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:25,160 Speaker 1: like I only work eight hours a day, I'm like, okay, 641 00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:27,920 Speaker 1: that's fine. You're probably never gonna be any good at 642 00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:31,600 Speaker 1: anything right if you And my advice to everybody out 643 00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:35,160 Speaker 1: there is if you are in your twenties, that is 644 00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:39,520 Speaker 1: the time in your early thirties to absolutely bust your 645 00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:43,440 Speaker 1: ass because sooner or later you're probably gonna have kids, 646 00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:45,560 Speaker 1: and this bucket is gonna get this good advice for you. 647 00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:50,479 Speaker 1: Everybody thinks they're busy until they have kids, and then 648 00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:54,440 Speaker 1: you realize that before you had kids, you were never 649 00:35:54,520 --> 00:35:59,560 Speaker 1: actually that busy because you controlled your day. Kids are 650 00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:03,560 Speaker 1: phenomen dominal, but they are incredible time vacuums. And so 651 00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:05,759 Speaker 1: I met when I was in my twenties. I thought 652 00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:07,719 Speaker 1: I was working hard before I had my first kid. 653 00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:09,640 Speaker 1: And then I had my first kid, and I was like, 654 00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:11,480 Speaker 1: holy hell, I had so much time. I can go 655 00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:13,279 Speaker 1: to the gym, I can go out to dinner, I 656 00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:14,799 Speaker 1: can go see a movie, and I didn't have to 657 00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:17,640 Speaker 1: be scheduled like three months in advance. Buck I've got 658 00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:20,759 Speaker 1: guy friends. They'll text me every now and then they're like, hey, 659 00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:23,440 Speaker 1: can you get a beer on April twenty fourth, And 660 00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:27,400 Speaker 1: I'm like, dude, it's it's like February. Like this is 661 00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:29,920 Speaker 1: what happens when you have kids. You have to schedule 662 00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:35,560 Speaker 1: things so far into the future, work your asses off beforehand, 663 00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:38,560 Speaker 1: and if you're only willing to work eight hours, you're 664 00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:41,880 Speaker 1: gonna fail. Period. Oh I only work eight hours. Okay, 665 00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:43,920 Speaker 1: that's fine. You're never gonna make any money and you're 666 00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:46,680 Speaker 1: gonna fail. It doesn't take that much right now, because 667 00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:50,040 Speaker 1: so many people are slackers out there to absolutely dominate it. 668 00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:52,440 Speaker 1: Can I just say I thought I was dropping the hammer, 669 00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:56,400 Speaker 1: and then Clay, get off my lawn. Travis takes the 670 00:36:56,480 --> 00:37:00,520 Speaker 1: dial to eleven actually work holders,