1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:04,720 Speaker 1: House Judiciary Chairman Jim Jordan just dropped another bombshell about 2 00:00:04,760 --> 00:00:10,320 Speaker 1: collaboration between the federal government and private institutions to censor Americans. 3 00:00:10,520 --> 00:00:12,600 Speaker 1: We'll talk to them about what you need to know, 4 00:00:12,680 --> 00:00:16,280 Speaker 1: what it means for the country and looking back at 5 00:00:16,280 --> 00:00:19,680 Speaker 1: the twenty twenty election, between this between the fifty to 6 00:00:19,720 --> 00:00:23,920 Speaker 1: one former Intel officers lying about Hunter Biden's laptop, between 7 00:00:23,920 --> 00:00:27,840 Speaker 1: the FBI going to Facebook to Twitter to warn them 8 00:00:27,880 --> 00:00:32,160 Speaker 1: about it, to censor information surrounding Hunter Biden. How much 9 00:00:32,320 --> 00:00:35,080 Speaker 1: of an impact did the federal government have on the 10 00:00:35,080 --> 00:00:38,560 Speaker 1: twenty twenty election. Should we be concerned about the twenty 11 00:00:38,600 --> 00:00:41,920 Speaker 1: twenty four election? What are they doing now to meddle 12 00:00:42,200 --> 00:00:45,080 Speaker 1: We'll talk to Congressman Jim Jordan about all of that. 13 00:00:45,360 --> 00:00:53,840 Speaker 1: Stay tuned for this important conversation. Well, Congressman, it's always 14 00:00:53,840 --> 00:00:55,520 Speaker 1: an honor to have you on the show. I appreciate 15 00:00:55,520 --> 00:00:56,280 Speaker 1: you making the time. 16 00:00:56,520 --> 00:00:57,360 Speaker 2: You beg good to be with you. 17 00:00:57,520 --> 00:01:00,440 Speaker 1: So let's talk about the extent of the governm government's 18 00:01:00,640 --> 00:01:02,880 Speaker 1: censorship of American citizens. 19 00:01:03,040 --> 00:01:04,720 Speaker 3: You know, tell us a little bit about the election 20 00:01:04,920 --> 00:01:07,559 Speaker 3: integrity partnership. You know, what did you learn? What should 21 00:01:07,560 --> 00:01:08,000 Speaker 3: people know? 22 00:01:08,280 --> 00:01:11,560 Speaker 2: In the broad sense, this as you know, Matt Taby 23 00:01:11,560 --> 00:01:14,399 Speaker 2: and Michael Schellenberger, the guys who put together the Twitter files. 24 00:01:14,640 --> 00:01:19,400 Speaker 2: As they said, this censorship industrial complex is even bigger, broader, 25 00:01:19,440 --> 00:01:21,640 Speaker 2: and more pervasive than we thought. You know, because we 26 00:01:21,680 --> 00:01:24,160 Speaker 2: initially thought it was big government working with big tech 27 00:01:24,640 --> 00:01:28,640 Speaker 2: to limit Americans speech and attack you know, sinser American speech, 28 00:01:28,640 --> 00:01:31,120 Speaker 2: attack the First Amendment liberties. Well we now learned through 29 00:01:31,440 --> 00:01:34,080 Speaker 2: what was going on at the Election Integrity Project that 30 00:01:34,240 --> 00:01:38,720 Speaker 2: was big government, big academia, and big tech all working together. 31 00:01:38,800 --> 00:01:42,119 Speaker 2: They were taking our tax dollars, running it through universities 32 00:01:42,680 --> 00:01:46,920 Speaker 2: and putting together these this this effort brought effort to 33 00:01:47,080 --> 00:01:50,360 Speaker 2: censor speech, and it was disproportionately conservative speech. So the 34 00:01:50,400 --> 00:01:55,880 Speaker 2: Election Integrity Project was at Stanford, put together by universities, 35 00:01:55,880 --> 00:01:58,160 Speaker 2: the government, in big tech, and they had this this 36 00:01:58,160 --> 00:02:02,280 Speaker 2: this kind of elaborate software system where we refer to 37 00:02:02,320 --> 00:02:04,760 Speaker 2: as like the dashboard where you there would be like 38 00:02:05,200 --> 00:02:07,840 Speaker 2: take down this post or limit the visibility of this 39 00:02:07,840 --> 00:02:10,760 Speaker 2: this tweet, and everyone could see it, everyone could operate 40 00:02:10,800 --> 00:02:14,920 Speaker 2: on it, and again all used to censor President Trump. 41 00:02:16,320 --> 00:02:20,840 Speaker 2: Sean Hannity, uh, Mike Hawk could be news. I mean, 42 00:02:20,880 --> 00:02:24,440 Speaker 2: all kinds of organizations and conservatives were censored in this effort. 43 00:02:24,560 --> 00:02:27,320 Speaker 1: Were there any Democrats or was it all conservatives who 44 00:02:27,320 --> 00:02:28,240 Speaker 1: were targeted from this? 45 00:02:28,600 --> 00:02:31,880 Speaker 2: Almost all conservatives? There were a few. And here's the kicker. 46 00:02:31,919 --> 00:02:34,079 Speaker 2: It wasn't like it was I mean, it was all 47 00:02:34,320 --> 00:02:38,680 Speaker 2: true information. It wasn't misinformation disb Sometimes it was just jokes. 48 00:02:38,680 --> 00:02:41,960 Speaker 2: It was just humor that any you know, any anybody 49 00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:44,360 Speaker 2: with any common sense could could figure out was a joke. 50 00:02:45,320 --> 00:02:48,720 Speaker 2: But it was it was real information. And as it was, 51 00:02:48,800 --> 00:02:51,800 Speaker 2: it was it was Americans. I mean, you know, like 52 00:02:51,840 --> 00:02:54,120 Speaker 2: there's one thing. It was like, oh, if it's foreign information, 53 00:02:54,280 --> 00:02:57,919 Speaker 2: I mean, maybe you have a bigger question there. We're 54 00:02:57,919 --> 00:03:01,680 Speaker 2: talking about true information by Americans, inisence put up disproportionately 55 00:03:01,720 --> 00:03:05,640 Speaker 2: targeting conservatives and of course using our tax dollars to 56 00:03:05,680 --> 00:03:06,280 Speaker 2: do it all. 57 00:03:06,240 --> 00:03:08,680 Speaker 1: You know, and what we found through you know, throughout COVID, 58 00:03:08,960 --> 00:03:11,799 Speaker 1: it's never information, as you pointed out, that's wrong. 59 00:03:12,240 --> 00:03:14,560 Speaker 3: It's just information that they don't like exactly. 60 00:03:14,720 --> 00:03:16,920 Speaker 2: They have a term for it that you know, the 61 00:03:16,960 --> 00:03:18,760 Speaker 2: typical government, they come up with all these these these 62 00:03:18,800 --> 00:03:23,120 Speaker 2: fancy terms. It's not misinformation disinformation. It's also now malinformation, 63 00:03:23,240 --> 00:03:26,320 Speaker 2: which is true information. But they don't like the context. 64 00:03:26,360 --> 00:03:28,400 Speaker 2: They don't like the way it's presented, they don't like 65 00:03:28,440 --> 00:03:31,160 Speaker 2: the framework that it's given in. Well, Boloney, that's like, 66 00:03:31,639 --> 00:03:35,120 Speaker 2: that's just a direct violation of the First Amendment. And frankly, 67 00:03:35,160 --> 00:03:37,680 Speaker 2: even if it's false information, it's an attack on the 68 00:03:37,680 --> 00:03:41,480 Speaker 2: First Amendment. But this was true information that they were 69 00:03:41,560 --> 00:03:42,040 Speaker 2: going after. 70 00:03:42,240 --> 00:03:44,760 Speaker 1: And is there any specific content or was it kind 71 00:03:44,760 --> 00:03:47,640 Speaker 1: of you know, wide ranging, like was it COVID related, 72 00:03:47,880 --> 00:03:50,000 Speaker 1: was it you know, or was it just kind of everything? 73 00:03:50,280 --> 00:03:52,680 Speaker 2: It was everything. Now, obviously the EP of the Election 74 00:03:52,720 --> 00:03:57,320 Speaker 2: Integrity Project was was focused on communications posts and tweets 75 00:03:58,280 --> 00:04:01,360 Speaker 2: relative to the election, but in a broad sense it 76 00:04:01,400 --> 00:04:03,800 Speaker 2: was it was it was COVID, as you point out, 77 00:04:03,840 --> 00:04:07,160 Speaker 2: Lisa and the election information and frankly all kinds of 78 00:04:07,160 --> 00:04:09,680 Speaker 2: other things too, But those are the two big areas 79 00:04:10,040 --> 00:04:14,200 Speaker 2: where they where they really censored speech. And of course 80 00:04:14,440 --> 00:04:18,960 Speaker 2: the Stanford Observatory and the Election Integrity Project all working together, 81 00:04:19,360 --> 00:04:22,040 Speaker 2: was that was primarily focused on the election. 82 00:04:21,880 --> 00:04:24,240 Speaker 1: You know, between that and some of the you know, 83 00:04:24,279 --> 00:04:26,880 Speaker 1: other censorship things we've heard about with the government and 84 00:04:26,880 --> 00:04:29,279 Speaker 1: then the fifty one former Intel officers lying to the 85 00:04:29,279 --> 00:04:32,200 Speaker 1: public about Hunter Biden's laptop and the FBI going to 86 00:04:32,920 --> 00:04:35,440 Speaker 1: you know, Facebook and Twitter and warning them about the 87 00:04:35,480 --> 00:04:38,839 Speaker 1: Hunter Biden's laptop, saying it's disinformation. I mean, how big 88 00:04:38,920 --> 00:04:43,040 Speaker 1: of a rule did the federal government have an influencing 89 00:04:43,120 --> 00:04:44,920 Speaker 1: and trying to shape the twenty twenty election. 90 00:04:45,400 --> 00:04:47,719 Speaker 2: That is a great question. I think it was a 91 00:04:47,839 --> 00:04:52,680 Speaker 2: huge impact because remember they're doing all this this integrity 92 00:04:52,720 --> 00:04:55,400 Speaker 2: project and this effort with our tax dollars. And then, 93 00:04:55,440 --> 00:04:58,080 Speaker 2: as you point out, along comes the story in the 94 00:04:58,120 --> 00:05:01,320 Speaker 2: New York Post on October fourteenth, twenty two twenty about 95 00:05:01,320 --> 00:05:05,040 Speaker 2: the laptop, and they have you know the term that's 96 00:05:05,120 --> 00:05:08,000 Speaker 2: uses they had pre bunked. They meaning the FBI, the 97 00:05:08,040 --> 00:05:10,680 Speaker 2: government and Big Tech had kind of pre bunked the 98 00:05:10,720 --> 00:05:13,880 Speaker 2: whole idea that there would be a late breaking story 99 00:05:13,920 --> 00:05:18,560 Speaker 2: relative to in October, relative to the Biden family in 100 00:05:18,600 --> 00:05:21,240 Speaker 2: the Biden campaign. And then along comes this story in 101 00:05:21,240 --> 00:05:23,360 Speaker 2: the New York Post about the laptop and Hunter Biden, 102 00:05:23,400 --> 00:05:26,719 Speaker 2: and and it's like everyone is ready then to just 103 00:05:26,880 --> 00:05:30,719 Speaker 2: label this disinformation because of what had happened leading up 104 00:05:30,760 --> 00:05:33,120 Speaker 2: to that, the meetings that the FBI had had with 105 00:05:33,160 --> 00:05:36,080 Speaker 2: Big Tech and kind of pre programmed tould be on 106 00:05:36,120 --> 00:05:38,880 Speaker 2: the alert or something that the FBI already had this 107 00:05:38,960 --> 00:05:41,760 Speaker 2: laptop and it knew it was real, so that all 108 00:05:41,760 --> 00:05:43,320 Speaker 2: plays out. So yeah, I think that had a huge 109 00:05:43,320 --> 00:05:46,840 Speaker 2: impact because that information was basically censored and kept from 110 00:05:46,839 --> 00:05:51,280 Speaker 2: the American people. Again, just two weeks prior to the 111 00:05:51,320 --> 00:05:53,320 Speaker 2: biggest election we have, which is election for President of 112 00:05:53,320 --> 00:05:53,880 Speaker 2: the United States. 113 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:56,920 Speaker 1: Let's take a quick commercial break more with Congressman Jim Jordan. 114 00:06:00,320 --> 00:06:03,080 Speaker 1: One would have to conclude that they're also trying to 115 00:06:03,120 --> 00:06:06,880 Speaker 1: shape the twenty twenty four election. Have you, guys, have 116 00:06:06,960 --> 00:06:09,560 Speaker 1: you been privy to anything, have you heard of anything? 117 00:06:09,920 --> 00:06:12,160 Speaker 3: You know? What should we be concerned about there? 118 00:06:12,360 --> 00:06:14,520 Speaker 2: That is why I think our work is so important. 119 00:06:15,400 --> 00:06:19,000 Speaker 2: Our work and then also the well, let me said 120 00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:22,960 Speaker 2: this way, just sometimes by by by bringing this to 121 00:06:23,040 --> 00:06:27,120 Speaker 2: the public's attention, to the American people's attention, you changed 122 00:06:27,160 --> 00:06:29,440 Speaker 2: the way these agencies to operate. There was no longer 123 00:06:29,440 --> 00:06:32,279 Speaker 2: a Disinformation Governance Board when they tried to run that 124 00:06:32,320 --> 00:06:34,840 Speaker 2: through a year and a half ago at the Department 125 00:06:34,880 --> 00:06:37,560 Speaker 2: of Homeland Security. The IRS just announced two and a 126 00:06:37,600 --> 00:06:39,680 Speaker 2: half months ago that they will no longer be making 127 00:06:39,760 --> 00:06:43,359 Speaker 2: unannounced visits to Americans homes. That the Commissioner of the 128 00:06:43,400 --> 00:06:45,200 Speaker 2: of the Internal Revenue Service said, well, we're doing that 129 00:06:45,240 --> 00:06:47,520 Speaker 2: for the safety of our agents. Boloni. They're doing it 130 00:06:47,560 --> 00:06:51,000 Speaker 2: because we caught them knocking on Matt Taiebe's door at 131 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:52,960 Speaker 2: the very time he was testifying in front of our 132 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:55,720 Speaker 2: committee about censorship. They were trying to intimidate him knocking 133 00:06:55,800 --> 00:06:57,480 Speaker 2: on his door. Turned out, by the way that they 134 00:06:57,520 --> 00:07:02,080 Speaker 2: actually owed me Taiebe money, So well, you can change there. 135 00:07:02,600 --> 00:07:06,160 Speaker 2: And so I think bringing this out has has curtailed 136 00:07:06,480 --> 00:07:09,400 Speaker 2: any efforts that may have been underway to have the 137 00:07:09,440 --> 00:07:11,920 Speaker 2: same kind of influence in twenty twenty four. And then 138 00:07:11,960 --> 00:07:14,680 Speaker 2: finally you couple all that with the suit the case 139 00:07:14,960 --> 00:07:19,720 Speaker 2: in the Fifth Circuit where the Attorney General from Louisiana 140 00:07:19,760 --> 00:07:23,400 Speaker 2: and Missouri had brought this case on these agencies censoring speech, 141 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:26,240 Speaker 2: and we got a great decision there. I think that 142 00:07:26,280 --> 00:07:28,080 Speaker 2: case is going to the Supreme Court, and I think 143 00:07:28,120 --> 00:07:30,120 Speaker 2: we'll get a good decision from the court there in 144 00:07:30,160 --> 00:07:33,120 Speaker 2: saying you can't do this. That was censorship, These agencies 145 00:07:33,160 --> 00:07:35,800 Speaker 2: working with big tech with censorship. So I feel like 146 00:07:35,800 --> 00:07:38,880 Speaker 2: we've made a huge difference and curtailed any effort that 147 00:07:38,880 --> 00:07:41,760 Speaker 2: may have been underway to impact the twenty twenty four election. 148 00:07:41,920 --> 00:07:45,680 Speaker 1: Didn't they sort of use the Russia interference lie in 149 00:07:45,720 --> 00:07:48,200 Speaker 1: twenty sixteen to sort of lay the groundwork for all 150 00:07:48,240 --> 00:07:50,000 Speaker 1: of this, of like, oh, we have to spy on 151 00:07:50,080 --> 00:07:52,720 Speaker 1: Americans because of the ray. I mean, wasn't that sort 152 00:07:52,800 --> 00:07:55,280 Speaker 1: of didn't that sort of lay down the groundwork for 153 00:07:55,360 --> 00:07:55,720 Speaker 1: all of this? 154 00:07:55,960 --> 00:08:00,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, that became the reason for launching this new this agency, 155 00:08:00,840 --> 00:08:05,440 Speaker 2: SYS this this, you know, the the idea was, oh, 156 00:08:05,480 --> 00:08:09,080 Speaker 2: we don't want anyone interfering with the you know, the 157 00:08:09,080 --> 00:08:12,520 Speaker 2: way elections work, the sort of the infrastructure of elections. 158 00:08:12,560 --> 00:08:14,800 Speaker 2: Well that's that's all well and good, But when you 159 00:08:14,840 --> 00:08:19,480 Speaker 2: get into censoring speech talking about the election, talking about 160 00:08:19,520 --> 00:08:22,880 Speaker 2: the politics, that's an entirely different story and a violation 161 00:08:22,920 --> 00:08:26,360 Speaker 2: of the First Amendment. So, but the the premise for 162 00:08:26,440 --> 00:08:28,480 Speaker 2: all of it, the foundation for all of it was 163 00:08:28,520 --> 00:08:31,440 Speaker 2: the concern about Russian interference in our elections. 164 00:08:31,560 --> 00:08:34,040 Speaker 1: And then of course the big lie about that is 165 00:08:34,160 --> 00:08:35,960 Speaker 1: it's actually our own government. 166 00:08:35,800 --> 00:08:36,240 Speaker 2: That's do. 167 00:08:38,080 --> 00:08:39,800 Speaker 3: Which is actually the way scarier. 168 00:08:40,160 --> 00:08:44,200 Speaker 2: And they used that that that quote Russian interference issue 169 00:08:44,400 --> 00:08:46,320 Speaker 2: to do all kinds of things you're not allowed to 170 00:08:46,320 --> 00:08:48,640 Speaker 2: do in a in a bigger sense as well, And 171 00:08:48,640 --> 00:08:50,199 Speaker 2: that's you know, they use that as the reason to 172 00:08:50,200 --> 00:08:52,760 Speaker 2: spy on President Trump's campaign, and then they use that 173 00:08:52,800 --> 00:08:55,360 Speaker 2: as the reason to launch the Muller invest thirty million dollars, 174 00:08:55,480 --> 00:08:59,240 Speaker 2: nineteen lawyers, so many agents, you know, this this whole thing, 175 00:08:59,280 --> 00:09:02,439 Speaker 2: and they found no losing, no coordination whatsoever. But they 176 00:09:02,520 --> 00:09:05,440 Speaker 2: used all that is the premise for so many things 177 00:09:06,000 --> 00:09:08,280 Speaker 2: that just I tied our government up and knots in 178 00:09:08,320 --> 00:09:10,800 Speaker 2: the Trump administration and it was all just a bunch 179 00:09:10,840 --> 00:09:13,760 Speaker 2: of boloney. I mean, Russia tried to influence the election. 180 00:09:13,880 --> 00:09:15,959 Speaker 2: I'm not disagreeing with that, but the idea that President 181 00:09:15,960 --> 00:09:17,560 Speaker 2: Trump was involved was all a bunch of blown. 182 00:09:17,440 --> 00:09:19,640 Speaker 1: But it's also like they always do, right, I mean, like, 183 00:09:19,960 --> 00:09:23,040 Speaker 1: you know, there's always some sort of meddling that has 184 00:09:23,080 --> 00:09:25,880 Speaker 1: gone on, probably historically from different you know, of enemy 185 00:09:25,880 --> 00:09:27,959 Speaker 1: countries and what have you, and you know, we're probably 186 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:28,640 Speaker 1: doing it to them. 187 00:09:28,800 --> 00:09:30,920 Speaker 3: It's just sort of seems like, you know, par for 188 00:09:30,960 --> 00:09:31,880 Speaker 3: the course or less. 189 00:09:31,960 --> 00:09:34,480 Speaker 1: If interviewed Ron Paul about this, because way back in 190 00:09:34,559 --> 00:09:36,920 Speaker 1: nineteen ninety eight, he was talking about how the FBI 191 00:09:37,080 --> 00:09:40,480 Speaker 1: was designed to spy on American citizens who disagreed with 192 00:09:40,520 --> 00:09:42,480 Speaker 1: the government, and I was like, you know, how does it. 193 00:09:42,360 --> 00:09:44,800 Speaker 3: Feel to be right about so many things. 194 00:09:45,120 --> 00:09:48,240 Speaker 1: You know, it really does beg the question of are 195 00:09:48,280 --> 00:09:51,760 Speaker 1: we just finding out more about, you know, how nefarious 196 00:09:51,760 --> 00:09:55,000 Speaker 1: our own government is because of social media and because 197 00:09:55,040 --> 00:09:57,079 Speaker 1: the curtain's been rolled back a little bit, or how 198 00:09:57,120 --> 00:09:58,560 Speaker 1: long has this stuff been going on? 199 00:09:58,760 --> 00:10:01,880 Speaker 2: Well, certainly since six that's when when I think so 200 00:10:01,960 --> 00:10:05,280 Speaker 2: many of us figured out, wait, something doesn't something's not 201 00:10:05,400 --> 00:10:09,280 Speaker 2: right here, this whole Trump you know, Trump Russia collusion, 202 00:10:09,360 --> 00:10:12,600 Speaker 2: blogeie and God blessed Devin Nunis because he was the first. 203 00:10:12,600 --> 00:10:14,960 Speaker 2: But there were really only a handful of us in 204 00:10:15,040 --> 00:10:18,920 Speaker 2: the in the Congress who said this is this is bogus, this, 205 00:10:18,920 --> 00:10:21,439 Speaker 2: this is not making sense. And then there were a 206 00:10:21,480 --> 00:10:23,720 Speaker 2: handful of you all on the on the on the outside, 207 00:10:23,880 --> 00:10:26,959 Speaker 2: in the journalist world who who said the same thing. 208 00:10:27,120 --> 00:10:30,240 Speaker 2: And it's funny because when it all was all said 209 00:10:30,280 --> 00:10:32,520 Speaker 2: and done, the only thing we had wrong, the handful 210 00:10:32,559 --> 00:10:35,040 Speaker 2: of us in the media and in Congress who were 211 00:10:35,080 --> 00:10:37,559 Speaker 2: raising concerns about all this. The only thing we had 212 00:10:37,600 --> 00:10:40,360 Speaker 2: wrong is it was worse than we thought. I mean that, 213 00:10:40,480 --> 00:10:42,400 Speaker 2: that's the one thing it was like, it is actually 214 00:10:42,400 --> 00:10:44,080 Speaker 2: worse than we thought it was. What they were trying 215 00:10:44,080 --> 00:10:45,760 Speaker 2: to do spying on his campaign. What they did to 216 00:10:46,679 --> 00:10:49,559 Speaker 2: Michael Flann Carter paid all these other it was ridiculous. 217 00:10:49,559 --> 00:10:52,640 Speaker 2: So we started to get to know there and then 218 00:10:52,679 --> 00:10:55,040 Speaker 2: we've learned things since then that they were looked actually 219 00:10:55,400 --> 00:10:57,720 Speaker 2: looks like they were spying on Devin Nunis's staff. We 220 00:10:57,760 --> 00:11:00,079 Speaker 2: found out a week and a half ago that one 221 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:03,600 Speaker 2: of the staffers for Senator Grassley uh they were looking 222 00:11:03,640 --> 00:11:07,680 Speaker 2: at his UH call records and his email records. So 223 00:11:08,360 --> 00:11:10,680 Speaker 2: that's that's when you start. When when when they're looking 224 00:11:10,720 --> 00:11:13,440 Speaker 2: at staff on Capitol Hill, and we've sent a letter 225 00:11:13,480 --> 00:11:16,400 Speaker 2: now asking who else were you spying on? Who else 226 00:11:16,400 --> 00:11:20,600 Speaker 2: were there? Were their members? Were there other staffers. I 227 00:11:20,600 --> 00:11:22,719 Speaker 2: think we've really learned a lot in the last six 228 00:11:22,760 --> 00:11:25,240 Speaker 2: seven years, but it really kind of started with what 229 00:11:25,280 --> 00:11:26,840 Speaker 2: they did to President Trump and his campaign. 230 00:11:27,040 --> 00:11:30,240 Speaker 1: Talk a little bit about Delaware US Attorney David Weiss 231 00:11:30,600 --> 00:11:32,640 Speaker 1: and what he told the House Judiciary Committee. 232 00:11:32,679 --> 00:11:34,679 Speaker 3: What did you learn from him? What should people know? 233 00:11:35,120 --> 00:11:38,160 Speaker 2: The biggest takeaway is that everything the whistleblowers have told 234 00:11:38,200 --> 00:11:41,040 Speaker 2: us has stood up. We've now deposed seven individuals associated 235 00:11:41,080 --> 00:11:47,240 Speaker 2: with the investigation. FBI agents, US attorneys, and the head 236 00:11:47,280 --> 00:11:50,680 Speaker 2: of the DJ tax division. They've all in none. No 237 00:11:50,720 --> 00:11:54,920 Speaker 2: one can refute what mister Shapley and mister Zigler brought forward. 238 00:11:55,360 --> 00:11:59,319 Speaker 2: Uh David Weiss included. Now he talked primarily about the 239 00:11:59,360 --> 00:12:02,120 Speaker 2: authority he had, and what was interesting he was asked 240 00:12:02,200 --> 00:12:05,840 Speaker 2: during the deposition, did you ever seek special attorney status 241 00:12:06,559 --> 00:12:08,559 Speaker 2: which would have allowed him to bring the charge to 242 00:12:08,600 --> 00:12:11,240 Speaker 2: any jurisdiction around the country, And he said, yes, he 243 00:12:11,280 --> 00:12:13,760 Speaker 2: did in the spring of twenty twenty two, but he 244 00:12:13,840 --> 00:12:16,480 Speaker 2: wasn't given that status. And so in essence, when he 245 00:12:16,520 --> 00:12:20,080 Speaker 2: went to other US attorneys to where the case should be, 246 00:12:20,320 --> 00:12:23,839 Speaker 2: you know, charges should be brought, and they turned him down. 247 00:12:24,360 --> 00:12:27,280 Speaker 2: He couldn't prosecute there without that status, and he asked 248 00:12:27,280 --> 00:12:30,560 Speaker 2: for it and wasn't given it. So the long of 249 00:12:30,600 --> 00:12:31,880 Speaker 2: it and the long and the short of it is 250 00:12:31,920 --> 00:12:36,280 Speaker 2: that he wound up letting the statute of limitations expire 251 00:12:36,440 --> 00:12:38,839 Speaker 2: for certain tax chars where there was a huge tax 252 00:12:38,880 --> 00:12:42,320 Speaker 2: liability that Hunter Biden had and it was the years 253 00:12:42,360 --> 00:12:45,320 Speaker 2: that dealt with the income he received from the Ukrainian 254 00:12:45,400 --> 00:12:48,880 Speaker 2: energy company Barisma. And that I think is important because 255 00:12:49,440 --> 00:12:53,920 Speaker 2: that that laps that statute of limitations expired, and if 256 00:12:54,360 --> 00:12:56,520 Speaker 2: he gets into that that takes you right to the 257 00:12:56,559 --> 00:13:00,000 Speaker 2: White House, because remember Joe Biden when he was vice president, 258 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:03,319 Speaker 2: then used our tax dollars as the reason to fire 259 00:13:03,360 --> 00:13:07,280 Speaker 2: the prosecutor who was investigating and looking into Bearisma. And 260 00:13:07,360 --> 00:13:09,640 Speaker 2: I think that that was why they let that expire. 261 00:13:10,000 --> 00:13:12,439 Speaker 2: And it was interesting he needed that special attorney status 262 00:13:12,440 --> 00:13:15,480 Speaker 2: to bring those charges. He wasn't given that status and 263 00:13:15,559 --> 00:13:17,839 Speaker 2: was denied by the district attorney in the Washington DC 264 00:13:18,040 --> 00:13:20,840 Speaker 2: district to bring charges there. So that was sort of 265 00:13:20,840 --> 00:13:24,320 Speaker 2: the biggest takeaway kind of confirmed again what mister Shapley 266 00:13:24,360 --> 00:13:25,840 Speaker 2: and mister Zigler had already told us. 267 00:13:25,880 --> 00:13:28,040 Speaker 1: Well, I mean it seems a little too obvious to 268 00:13:28,120 --> 00:13:31,360 Speaker 1: let the Barisma years run out of the statue, right, 269 00:13:31,400 --> 00:13:33,320 Speaker 1: I mean that seems a little too on the nose. 270 00:13:33,559 --> 00:13:36,480 Speaker 2: I think this, in the end, this impeachment inquiry that 271 00:13:36,480 --> 00:13:40,000 Speaker 2: we're involved in, is really the the you know, I 272 00:13:40,040 --> 00:13:42,240 Speaker 2: always say a tale as old as time. Here you 273 00:13:42,320 --> 00:13:45,760 Speaker 2: had a politician who takes certain actions, those actions benefit 274 00:13:45,840 --> 00:13:48,760 Speaker 2: his family financially, and then there's an effort to sweep 275 00:13:48,800 --> 00:13:51,320 Speaker 2: it all under the rug. And that is what happened 276 00:13:51,360 --> 00:13:55,319 Speaker 2: because certain key facts are one Hunter Biden gets put 277 00:13:55,360 --> 00:13:58,320 Speaker 2: on the board of this Ukrainian energy company, Barisma. Fact 278 00:13:58,400 --> 00:14:00,480 Speaker 2: number two, he's not qualified to be on the board. 279 00:14:00,840 --> 00:14:04,360 Speaker 2: Fact number three, the head of Barisma asked Hunter Biden, 280 00:14:04,400 --> 00:14:07,160 Speaker 2: can you help relieve the pressure we are under. Immediately 281 00:14:07,200 --> 00:14:10,200 Speaker 2: after getting that request, Hunter Biden calls DC. According to 282 00:14:10,520 --> 00:14:13,880 Speaker 2: Devon Archer, called his dad, called the Vice President Joe Biden. 283 00:14:14,160 --> 00:14:17,080 Speaker 2: Five days later, Joe Biden's in Ukraine and he starts 284 00:14:17,120 --> 00:14:19,800 Speaker 2: the process to fire the prosecutor, and he holds up 285 00:14:19,840 --> 00:14:21,920 Speaker 2: American tax dollars that we're going to go to Ukraine 286 00:14:21,920 --> 00:14:25,040 Speaker 2: and aid to get it done. Now, all those four 287 00:14:25,120 --> 00:14:28,280 Speaker 2: facts comport with what the confidential human source told us 288 00:14:28,280 --> 00:14:30,760 Speaker 2: in this now famous ten twenty three form where the 289 00:14:30,760 --> 00:14:34,040 Speaker 2: confidential human source told the FBI. The FBI recorded in 290 00:14:34,080 --> 00:14:37,400 Speaker 2: that form about Barisma paying the Bidens to get certain 291 00:14:37,440 --> 00:14:41,040 Speaker 2: actions done. And then, of course the sweeping and under 292 00:14:41,040 --> 00:14:43,520 Speaker 2: the rug is what David Weis did. He swept it 293 00:14:43,560 --> 00:14:45,960 Speaker 2: under the rug by letting the statute of limitations expire 294 00:14:46,720 --> 00:14:48,880 Speaker 2: and all kinds of things that that investigation did. They 295 00:14:48,880 --> 00:14:51,480 Speaker 2: slow walk this nub in five year investigation for goodness sake. 296 00:14:51,800 --> 00:14:55,720 Speaker 2: So to me, that is the sort of the crux 297 00:14:55,760 --> 00:14:59,000 Speaker 2: of the matter. And we continue to investigate now and 298 00:14:59,040 --> 00:15:01,280 Speaker 2: look at some of the the other money trails and 299 00:15:01,320 --> 00:15:03,360 Speaker 2: other things that are happening since that that have happened 300 00:15:03,360 --> 00:15:06,720 Speaker 2: since then. With mister Comber's is in the middle of that. 301 00:15:06,760 --> 00:15:09,520 Speaker 2: We've just sent a number of subpoenas that will help 302 00:15:09,600 --> 00:15:10,640 Speaker 2: us get more answers. 303 00:15:10,760 --> 00:15:14,320 Speaker 1: What should people be paying attention to right now, you know, 304 00:15:14,400 --> 00:15:16,800 Speaker 1: sort of what's most important in the work that you're 305 00:15:16,840 --> 00:15:19,360 Speaker 1: doing right now and trying to hold the government accountable. 306 00:15:19,440 --> 00:15:22,440 Speaker 2: Obviously, the report we released on what they were doing 307 00:15:22,480 --> 00:15:24,920 Speaker 2: with censoring American speech and they're run up to the 308 00:15:24,920 --> 00:15:28,240 Speaker 2: twenty twenty election, the Selection Integrity Project, and we think 309 00:15:28,320 --> 00:15:33,920 Speaker 2: is important relative to the investigation and look back up 310 00:15:34,000 --> 00:15:36,560 Speaker 2: and coming out of that and all of this is 311 00:15:37,360 --> 00:15:42,280 Speaker 2: the FIES up has the pies of law, particularly the 312 00:15:42,320 --> 00:15:44,360 Speaker 2: seven of what's called the seven H two program has 313 00:15:44,400 --> 00:15:47,040 Speaker 2: to be reauthorized by is up for reauthorization by the 314 00:15:47,120 --> 00:15:49,080 Speaker 2: end of this year, so we're working on that. That's 315 00:15:49,120 --> 00:15:50,760 Speaker 2: going to be important here the last two months of 316 00:15:50,800 --> 00:15:54,240 Speaker 2: this this calendar year. And then then of course it's 317 00:15:54,280 --> 00:15:57,640 Speaker 2: the work we're doing on the impeachment inquiry, which is 318 00:15:57,800 --> 00:15:59,960 Speaker 2: part of our you know, part of our constitutional duties. 319 00:16:00,040 --> 00:16:01,960 Speaker 2: To do oversight. Would continue to do that, and number 320 00:16:01,960 --> 00:16:05,280 Speaker 2: of subpoenas went out yesterday, more going out today that 321 00:16:06,160 --> 00:16:08,040 Speaker 2: we'll get people in front of us that we need 322 00:16:08,080 --> 00:16:08,400 Speaker 2: to talk to. 323 00:16:08,600 --> 00:16:12,680 Speaker 1: Jim Jordan, Congressman from Ohio, chairman of the Hop Judiciary Committee, 324 00:16:12,680 --> 00:16:15,200 Speaker 1: you're doing really important work. So we appreciate you taking 325 00:16:15,240 --> 00:16:18,000 Speaker 1: the time, and we appreciate you holding our government accountable. 326 00:16:18,040 --> 00:16:20,160 Speaker 3: It's incredibly important right now. 327 00:16:20,080 --> 00:16:21,440 Speaker 2: You bet, thank you, thanks for all you do. You 328 00:16:21,480 --> 00:16:21,840 Speaker 2: take care. 329 00:16:27,240 --> 00:16:30,040 Speaker 1: That was Congressman Jim Jordan, of course, the chairman of 330 00:16:30,040 --> 00:16:33,280 Speaker 1: the House Judiciary Committee, doing really important work. Appreciate him 331 00:16:33,280 --> 00:16:35,760 Speaker 1: taking the time to join the show and bring us 332 00:16:35,760 --> 00:16:37,680 Speaker 1: all that information. I want to thank you guys at 333 00:16:37,680 --> 00:16:39,880 Speaker 1: home for listening every Monday and Thursday, but you can 334 00:16:39,880 --> 00:16:41,800 Speaker 1: listen throughout the week. I want to thank John Cassio 335 00:16:41,800 --> 00:16:44,040 Speaker 1: and my producer for putting the show together. 336 00:16:44,200 --> 00:16:44,960 Speaker 3: Until next time.