Speaker 1: It's with Jenny Garth and Tori Spelling. Guess what. We're
Speaker 1: back this week on a new and exciting episode of
Speaker 1: nine O two one O m G. It's t It's
Speaker 1: Jay and it's as sisneys back. You think, hey, Sis,
Speaker 1: this is a tree because I got to watch two
Speaker 1: episodes back to back, because I watched the last weeks
Speaker 1: so I can catch up, and then plus this nice.
Speaker 1: I was in a flow. I almost wanted to start
Speaker 1: the next one. I was like, I have to stop bening.
Speaker 1: I really was. How is Hawaii? Oh it's so relaxing.
Speaker 1: We missed the kids, of course, but it was a
Speaker 1: much needed parent only vacation. Right. We were discussing, like,
Speaker 1: is it a baby moon when it's here? Well, we
Speaker 1: would typically say second, but it's your third but your
Speaker 1: second birth. Yes exactly, so yeah it was a baby moon. Well,
Speaker 1: we're glad you're back. We're glad you're back, and I'm
Speaker 1: sure all the listeners are glad you're back because very
Speaker 1: I'm happy to be back because when you're not when
Speaker 1: you're not here, Sis, I actually have to do my homework.
Speaker 1: Yeah that's not sure, do you do you? I have
Speaker 1: very detailed notes this week I'm so excited, you guys,
Speaker 1: this is me for this podcast. I'm gonna sit back,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna relax. Ab let Tori run the show. This
Speaker 1: is good because student, you do the hard work. This
Speaker 1: is cool though, because Tory, you're kind of the star
Speaker 1: student in this episode, so it really matches up. I
Speaker 1: was just living living up to my image, like imitating art.
Speaker 1: So let's get into it. Let's do it. She's ready
Speaker 1: to go, you guys, Let's talk about this week's episode.
Speaker 1: Episode ten of season two, Necessity Is a Mother, aired
Speaker 1: on September n Synopsis. Dylan's long es strange mother, Iris
Speaker 1: comes for a visit from Hawaii, which soon lands him
Speaker 1: in trouble at a local billiards club. Meanwhile, Steven Donna
Speaker 1: decided to play the stock markets. Yeah Baby. Directed by
Speaker 1: Jefferson Kiddie, written by Darren Starrs, Steve Wasserman, and Jessica
Speaker 1: Klein and starring us and starring Us Yes, this episode
Speaker 1: was a lot all about Dylan and his mama. Enter
Speaker 1: the fabulous Stephanie Beacham, Iris McKay. Who guess what you
Speaker 1: guys we have on our show today. That's right, we'll
Speaker 1: get to that a little bit later, but we're interviewing
Speaker 1: her and we have some very fond memories and it'll
Speaker 1: be great to catch up. So let's dive right into
Speaker 1: the beginning of the episode, shall we we? Shall um? Okay,
Speaker 1: right out of the gate, Dylan looks just amazing in
Speaker 1: the pool hall. He is everything he needs to be.
Speaker 1: That that is just him at his prime. I feel
Speaker 1: like he looks beautiful. He just right right away. Guys
Speaker 1: like it. It made me think of that old movie
Speaker 1: cool Hand Luke get it? And now he does look great.
Speaker 1: Do you remember if it was he a good pool player?
Speaker 1: I mean he Dylan was he? They certainly made it
Speaker 1: look like he was a good pool player. I don't
Speaker 1: know if that was real. It looked real, it did.
Speaker 1: It made it look like a good surfer too, which
Speaker 1: he was not. He was not. But I'll tell you
Speaker 1: what he's not good at. He's not good at driving.
Speaker 1: Um he's driving that. There's a scene where he's driving
Speaker 1: Brenda home from wherever and he rips into the driveway
Speaker 1: like a bad out of hell? That's isn't that the
Speaker 1: expression of bad out of hell? And he is, uh,
Speaker 1: he's not a very good drive for he like drives
Speaker 1: over the curb and slams on the brakes. Maybe he
Speaker 1: was mad, maybe he was already drunk. I don't know,
Speaker 1: something's going on. Yeah, maybe that that's just how you
Speaker 1: gotta If you have a car like that, you just
Speaker 1: gotta drive it like that. Maybe that's the thing. That's
Speaker 1: how bad boys drive cars like that, anti cars like that.
Speaker 1: M hmm. Brenda's ties back, I was very happy. I've
Speaker 1: gotten to passion. I don't care for that look. I
Speaker 1: know that you guys like it happy, I'm not my favorite. Well, yeah,
Speaker 1: Brenda's tires back. It was a different tie look, like
Speaker 1: this would be her second tie ensemble. Yeah, that's right,
Speaker 1: it's back. I wonder how many different ties we're going
Speaker 1: to see. How popular was that look in the nineties,
Speaker 1: Like is that where women wearing that to work? And
Speaker 1: that was like the style. I found a picture of
Speaker 1: myself on a talk show where I was in a
Speaker 1: white tied shirt, button down shirt, a tie and suspenders
Speaker 1: and pants. So I was taking one out of Shamon's book.
Speaker 1: Maybe what color was your tie red or something? I
Speaker 1: matched my lip to it. You know, it's very Paula Abdul, right,
Speaker 1: didn't she wear that book a lot. I'm going on record,
Speaker 1: I'm not a fan of that, and I know this
Speaker 1: one loves Annie Hall and now she wants to go
Speaker 1: to that look at some point in her life and
Speaker 1: she's not doing it. I don't want to be Annie Hall.
Speaker 1: I want to be just tying. Can't Keaton. I want
Speaker 1: to be It's it's like smart lady, look, mhm is,
Speaker 1: don't mess with me. Look I like it. Well, we
Speaker 1: were pulling into the driveway with Brenda, so his mom
Speaker 1: is there. He it's unexpected. She's there from Hawaii. Um,
Speaker 1: which we'll get to this later, but Stephanie Beacham tells
Speaker 1: us they made her from Hawaii because she had the
Speaker 1: worst American accent ever. Yes, you can, you can tell.
Speaker 1: I was like, what is the accent? Is that American
Speaker 1: or is that British? But I feel like it was
Speaker 1: British kind of trying to be American but it didn't
Speaker 1: really go over so well. So they made her from Hawaii,
Speaker 1: which makes absolutely no sense. It was Madonna. It was
Speaker 1: very very on trend at that point. I enjoyed it.
Speaker 1: She was beautiful. I loved her hippie look, her whole
Speaker 1: like easy going vibes and departure for her as an actress,
Speaker 1: because coming from you know, other shows that she had done,
Speaker 1: Dynasty and everything, she's always so glammed up and like
Speaker 1: made up. This was just really natural and pretty, Stephanie,
Speaker 1: did you like that ty die? Like that silk? I
Speaker 1: feel like we would wear that nowadays, Like it wasn't nineties,
Speaker 1: but it was like it would be in now Like
Speaker 1: that tide kind of tied up shirt with the matching skirt.
Speaker 1: I loved it. Does she looked comfy, Let's bring that back.
Speaker 1: Did you like her little braids? Two little braids to
Speaker 1: really set the mood that she's out there. Yeah, that
Speaker 1: was like a note. I bet that note came from
Speaker 1: my dad, who was very invested in hair and makeup.
Speaker 1: Oddly enough um and war Jobe, but it was very like,
Speaker 1: I want their hair this way, And he always had
Speaker 1: to see polaroids were in back then, UM, and he
Speaker 1: would always bring them home in his briefcase. But I
Speaker 1: bet that was a note like let's do something hippie esque.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm. So Iris was also really into astrology, which
Speaker 1: I know you love. I loved that. Um. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: like I like her whole vibe, but I feel like
Speaker 1: she's she's super super cool. She comments that Dylan is
Speaker 1: a Libra and that Brenda is a Scorpio, which isn't
Speaker 1: a great match. But Luke actually was a Libra. I
Speaker 1: are so that's in October eleven, so it's interesting that
Speaker 1: they wrote that in the Dylan was a Libra as well.
Speaker 1: But Shannon's actually an aries like you my best friend,
Speaker 1: although you guys are very different, um in good ways. Uh,
Speaker 1: And that's interesting. They made her scorpio, which would be November.
Speaker 1: What is Kelly? That would be a question for I
Speaker 1: don't know. Darren texts big fan, super duper fan with that,
Speaker 1: not just a super fan, because I do believe in
Speaker 1: astrology and um. Scorpios can be challenging and um and
Speaker 1: Libras are kind of usually peacemakers. They usually don't have
Speaker 1: tempers like Dylan McKay, but I don't think they go together.
Speaker 1: By be curious to know what Helly is because I
Speaker 1: wonder if that's a better match. No spoilers, You're a
Speaker 1: sa Donna was a Sage or Capricorn. Christmas Christmas Day
Speaker 1: would be cap Capricorns or I don't know. Decemb I
Speaker 1: want to say, Sagittarius, does that feel Undonna? It worked
Speaker 1: for the storyline one episode. I guess Iris does make
Speaker 1: a comment though about um Brenda having really negative aura.
Speaker 1: Did you guys hear that? I did? And I feel like, uh,
Speaker 1: maybe I hate Brenda fan club was born right then
Speaker 1: and there people were like, well, I mean, you can't
Speaker 1: argue with it because she's so over the top with
Speaker 1: Dylan and Iris in this episode, like she's on him
Speaker 1: all the time and pretty rude to his mom. I mean,
Speaker 1: I was like, why is she being so rude to
Speaker 1: his mom? And I guess it was just based on
Speaker 1: you know, Dylan sharing his experiences with her and talking
Speaker 1: to her about it privately, but like she didn't have
Speaker 1: any level of respect for her for his mom, which
Speaker 1: I thought was a little weird. That's a little um
Speaker 1: dare I say it? Um on female? I feel like instinctually, um,
Speaker 1: we are there for women and we you know, women
Speaker 1: support women. So even if you know the boy in
Speaker 1: our lives is saying like the mother like you always
Speaker 1: are like hmm, let me see what's really getting on?
Speaker 1: Getting let me see what's really going on woman to woman.
Speaker 1: So I was surprised as well that she kind of
Speaker 1: came in very aggressive, defensively. It is your boyfriend's mom,
Speaker 1: I would want to impress her a little, even if
Speaker 1: they're estranged. I don't know, that's just me. Yeah, definitely,
Speaker 1: So we got some on Kelly's birthday, it's inconsistent. Shoot
Speaker 1: talk to kind of goes to the theme of the show, Okay,
Speaker 1: talk to us. In season three, Kelly's eighteenth birthday was
Speaker 1: celebrated in March, and then in season six, Kelly's twenty
Speaker 1: one birthday was celebrated in September. Wait, air date, but
Speaker 1: the air date? Doesn't they say it's March, or they
Speaker 1: say it's September, because air date doesn't matter. It may
Speaker 1: have been the episode date, Like whatever was happening in
Speaker 1: the episode, what season was it? What were we wearing?
Speaker 1: Was it? Like? Is that how we tell those season's Okay, wait, okay,
Speaker 1: let's just go through this for a second. So if
Speaker 1: it's March, I'm gonna go with March like end of March,
Speaker 1: because then you could be an aries, which you really are.
Speaker 1: And Dylan was a Libra, which Luke really was, and
Speaker 1: that kind of makes a love story even better for me.
Speaker 1: I like that because real playing really like it. I
Speaker 1: like it. Let's go with that. Know what, if that's
Speaker 1: what you want, that's what we're going to be. Kelly's
Speaker 1: birthdays in March time stamped right here and here, right
Speaker 1: here and here. Did you guys feel that it was
Speaker 1: foreshadowing at all that Donna would be in business with
Speaker 1: Steve and now Tory is in business with Ien that you,
Speaker 1: my friend, I didn't get that at all. Okay, it's
Speaker 1: so funny what you take away from things. So okay,
Speaker 1: So jumping to the Donna Steve storyline, which I was
Speaker 1: really grateful for. It was like a good story, juicy
Speaker 1: storyline for me. Um finding my voice, which you know
Speaker 1: is a big thing but over over arching theme in
Speaker 1: Tori's real life, as Jenny would know. I know, and
Speaker 1: that's so not me. Um. The character of Tori is no.
Speaker 1: But it's like, finding my voice has been a big thing,
Speaker 1: and my best friend always helps me find my voice,
Speaker 1: and we've been working on it and I'm getting there.
Speaker 1: You're getting their girls. Donna was getting there too. She
Speaker 1: I felt like Kelly was a really bad friend to
Speaker 1: Donna in this episode. I felt bad the way she
Speaker 1: was treating Donna. I mean, she kept saying she was stupid,
Speaker 1: and she didn't say you're stupid, she said, don't be stupid.
Speaker 1: Don't be stupid. And also I didn't really understand why
Speaker 1: Kelly would care that much about Donna spending money because,
Speaker 1: as to Kelly, you know, money is just an evergreen thing,
Speaker 1: you know. So I didn't under I didn't really get
Speaker 1: why Kelly was supposed to be the voice of reason
Speaker 1: for her. Maybe it went with the theme of the
Speaker 1: episode of like mothering. Like it was almost like Kelly
Speaker 1: was very mothering. You guys are both so smart today. Yeah,
Speaker 1: this is where we are, but I'm loving it. Um. So,
Speaker 1: I was gonna say another thing about my life, Like
Speaker 1: I've always feared that people would think I was stupid.
Speaker 1: Um just I don't know why. So that, like the
Speaker 1: feeling of Donna thinking people will assume she's stupid is
Speaker 1: very on point for me my whole life, thinking people
Speaker 1: will assume I'm stupid. Um well, why do you think
Speaker 1: people would think that? I have no idea. I'm not sure,
Speaker 1: because I think you're a female. Um. I think it
Speaker 1: came originally because who my dad was, and he was
Speaker 1: the producer and people would make assumptions and perceptions, and
Speaker 1: they would say things like, oh, she just has the
Speaker 1: part because of her dad, and she can't act and
Speaker 1: she can't can't, can't. I heard can't so many times
Speaker 1: that I guess that went into my brain as I
Speaker 1: can't be smart, I can't think for myself, I can't
Speaker 1: have a voice, I can't anything because I'm just told
Speaker 1: no so much publicly. Mhm. And also that's not true.
Speaker 1: I was gonna say I wasn't that good in school,
Speaker 1: but it wasn't bad. And you're super smart. You're smart.
Speaker 1: Everybody has smart intelligence in different areas. I think. I
Speaker 1: always tell my kids, Uh, I'm not book smart, I'm
Speaker 1: street smart. Okay, So if you were going to have
Speaker 1: to talk to me as your kid in a mothering way,
Speaker 1: I'm not booked smart and I don't want street smart.
Speaker 1: So what type of smart? Oh, let's we're gonna have
Speaker 1: to come up with a different category, clearly, right, m
Speaker 1: Your business smart? Oh not money. I didn't say money.
Speaker 1: I did say don't go to them. I didn't say money.
Speaker 1: But I think your business smart, thank you. I think
Speaker 1: your business smart too. Um so, but it's funny, Donna
Speaker 1: was good at the stock market, which is money, which
Speaker 1: maybe that should have It made me laugh exactly. It
Speaker 1: didn't rub off at all. The interesting thing is, if
Speaker 1: they were going to write that in there, maybe my
Speaker 1: dad would have been like, maybe I should teach her
Speaker 1: about money and teacher investments and teacher about all the
Speaker 1: stock market he and my mom's stock market. But nope,
Speaker 1: nothing nothing. So I played it on TV. Didn't know
Speaker 1: in real life, still don't. It's so funny because I
Speaker 1: I don't think about money. I don't I'm not a
Speaker 1: money minded person. And I don't do math like just ever,
Speaker 1: Like I don't when you say numbers to me, even
Speaker 1: if it's a phone number, my brain just goes like
Speaker 1: I can't handle any kind of numbers. So I didn't
Speaker 1: teach my kids about math or you know, money, finances, anything,
Speaker 1: And I feel terrible about that. And I always said
Speaker 1: to their dad, like you have to pick pick up
Speaker 1: because I can't do this. I don't know, I don't
Speaker 1: know anything about it. So just the other day, my
Speaker 1: twenty four year old came and she was asking like
Speaker 1: real life questions about um money and a job and
Speaker 1: getting a raise and um w not nine ten one ten.
Speaker 1: I see, I don't know stuff like this W nine forms.
Speaker 1: Maybe I think I just think it's not the one
Speaker 1: you clean with. It's not the Okay, she was asking
Speaker 1: about all that stuff. Clearly I shouldn't ask you guys either,
Speaker 1: but I was like, I don't really know, so thank goodness,
Speaker 1: my husband Dave knows about it and um, but she said, yeah,
Speaker 1: you and Dad were no help when I needed advice
Speaker 1: about that kind of stuff because I was always like,
Speaker 1: I don't know cale Andy, who's like in the business
Speaker 1: management firm, Because I don't that's not good advice to
Speaker 1: give your kids, Like you should sit down and try
Speaker 1: to teach them about I guess money managed in school, Like, yeah,
Speaker 1: we can't do it. School needs to teach it. I
Speaker 1: don't think we should. We need to learn about trigometry
Speaker 1: or whatever Brendan is talking about what even don't even
Speaker 1: know what trigonometry is, but uh, they shouldn't teach about that.
Speaker 1: They should teach about real life applications of like finances
Speaker 1: and so many management and as basic as how to
Speaker 1: write a check and like like it's things all the ways.
Speaker 1: That's clearly nobody writes checks. I write a check every
Speaker 1: week what do you What are you guys talking about?
Speaker 1: I write a check every week? What are you talking about?
Speaker 1: You get a check book out and write a check
Speaker 1: to that person. There's still there's still some of you
Speaker 1: out there. How do you wait? How do you do it?
Speaker 1: If you don't write it? You guys? Venmo or electronic payments?
Speaker 1: Some people don't have that. No, I know what you mean.
Speaker 1: There's still some. So my housekeeper, who's literally Jen knows
Speaker 1: her well, like work for my mom since I was thirteen,
Speaker 1: started with me at eighteen. She's my grandma. I call
Speaker 1: her mama. Um. She doesn't know about electric transfer. She
Speaker 1: doesn't know this stuff, just like I don't. She didn't
Speaker 1: have VENMO, so I write her a check. I mean,
Speaker 1: I use checks still too, but I don't write them
Speaker 1: out anymore. They come off of a computer. But I
Speaker 1: still have a checkbook, but it's all out of checks,
Speaker 1: like there's no checks that it you guys. I got
Speaker 1: fancy with investing. I was on my Venmo the other
Speaker 1: day and it told me I could do bitcoin, crypto,
Speaker 1: all that jazz. Oh, clearly not. But it had the
Speaker 1: arrows going up and down like a stock market, and
Speaker 1: I saw the up arrow, So I said, you know what,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna roll the dice and take a chance. I
Speaker 1: invested a hundred dollars of my venmo in bitcoin. Yes
Speaker 1: it's seven bitcoin. It sound seventy four dollars and twenty
Speaker 1: three cents? Am I gonna be? Okay? Should I sell?
Speaker 1: Donna sold? Should I sell? Write it out? Sell? I say, sell, sell, sell.
Speaker 1: I have no idea. But if I sell it, I
Speaker 1: only get seventy four dollars and three cents. No, no,
Speaker 1: you will. But I'm just saying so at that point,
Speaker 1: hold on, okay, you hold onto it. It'll come back up.
Speaker 1: It'll come back up. And the minute it comes back up,
Speaker 1: j G. The minute it comes back up, I'm selling it,
Speaker 1: just like Donna did. I'm going to take a lesson
Speaker 1: from my character on the show. Good for You. You'll
Speaker 1: learned something from this, rewatch. I think that all of
Speaker 1: our listeners have learned something from this episode two, and
Speaker 1: it's how money illiterate we all three seem to be.
Speaker 1: It's so sad because my dad is an accountant and
Speaker 1: my um my husband works in finance. He's the director
Speaker 1: of finance. Like I couldn't be more surrounded about with money,
Speaker 1: and I'm just like, well, thank god, that's great that
Speaker 1: you're going around you that are Yeah, you're gonna be okay.
Speaker 1: We there's there's a saying. What was the saying that
Speaker 1: your ex said to you about you in regards to money?
Speaker 1: Because it applies to me too, and I always think
Speaker 1: about it except now, which I forgot. Wait when he
Speaker 1: said someday you're going to thank me for this? Oh no,
Speaker 1: not that one. Uh oh, there's only two quotes. I
Speaker 1: can remember that one and um, your your penny smart
Speaker 1: and dollar foolish or is it the other way around?
Speaker 1: So know how to save We like bargains, like we'll
Speaker 1: go to Target or go to somewhere, but w end
Speaker 1: up spending so much money there that you could have
Speaker 1: spent into something else. It was in regards to this conversation,
Speaker 1: and you said, right, is that it? Yeah, you're a
Speaker 1: penny smart, dollar foolish. I think so that's me too.
Speaker 1: We have to stop talking about money now. I'm getting
Speaker 1: anxiety break. I like breaks. Okay, So when we come back,
Speaker 1: we're going to interview Stephanie Beacham, who played Iris McKay um.
Speaker 1: Of course you know her from well she worked with
Speaker 1: Jason on Sister Kate, and she was on Dynasty The
Speaker 1: Colby's and we're super excited to see her again. Okay,
Speaker 1: we are very, very honored and excited to be talking
Speaker 1: to Stephanie Beacham right now. As you know, played Iris
Speaker 1: McKay Dylan's cucko Mama free spirited. So excited to see
Speaker 1: you again. Oh, it's wonderful. It's wonderful. I mean, it's
Speaker 1: been far too long. I know, of course, story what
Speaker 1: I really think of is you and you're twelve in
Speaker 1: truth Beverly Hill. I know, it'sn't that crazy that we
Speaker 1: got to semi work together two times, even though we
Speaker 1: never were really like in major scenes in either in
Speaker 1: Troo Beverly Hills or nine or two and now Donning.
Speaker 1: I observed you behaving so beautifully when you were over
Speaker 1: hot in Santa Monica Park or something like that, and
Speaker 1: and you were so hot and you were asking for
Speaker 1: no privileges and you were just one of the team,
Speaker 1: and I thought, that girl is fabulous. Thank you. You've
Speaker 1: always been so amazing. That day that a couple of
Speaker 1: days it was like over a hundred degrees. People were
Speaker 1: passing out like crazy. It was it was hard. I
Speaker 1: thought you were very very cool. Well, besides that, my
Speaker 1: dad loved you so much. Obviously, he worked with you
Speaker 1: time and time again because he thought you were so
Speaker 1: amazing and so kind, so special, and he basically changed
Speaker 1: my life. M hm he really did. I mean I
Speaker 1: was a divorcee with I mean I was successful. He
Speaker 1: just changed my life. He turned it into chechnica. Mm hm.
Speaker 1: So your first job on television was with Aaron Spelling,
Speaker 1: because I know you trained at RATA and you did
Speaker 1: a lot of me me. My first job, what I
Speaker 1: think that television was in black and white. I played Mary,
Speaker 1: Queen of Scott's. Uh you know that did historical drama
Speaker 1: and stuff like that. Can we talk about Dynasty and
Speaker 1: the Colby's before nine o two and olm, I just said,
Speaker 1: I have to, yes, yes, okay, this is this is
Speaker 1: what was really fun. Then I did Sister Kate, which
Speaker 1: was when I played a nun, which I just was
Speaker 1: a good contrast to Table Colby. And Jason was my
Speaker 1: eldest orphan in this orphanage that I read. And when
Speaker 1: Luke needed a mom on nine o two one, oh,
Speaker 1: it was Jason that said you need Beecham your lover.
Speaker 1: And it was Jason who went to your daddy Tory,
Speaker 1: and said, how about Beacham for Luke's mom. And that's
Speaker 1: how it happened. I did not know that. I just
Speaker 1: assumed because my dad loved working with you, that he
Speaker 1: wanted to incorporate you. That's why. That's why it happened.
Speaker 1: Because you didn't thus say no. He said, oh well wait,
Speaker 1: and then of course I turned up with one of
Speaker 1: the worst American accents ever, and so they decided that
Speaker 1: I had to have come from Hawaii. Wait. They wanted
Speaker 1: you to come from Hawaii so you could use your
Speaker 1: real accent. No why, That's why I had a rather
Speaker 1: strange American accent. For some reason, they just thought it
Speaker 1: would work. Well, there we get I've never heard of
Speaker 1: Hawaiian with funny accent. Everything comes full circle because this
Speaker 1: isn't the reason Jason got the part. But I was
Speaker 1: such a huge fan of Sister Kate. I was obsessed
Speaker 1: with that show that when my dad was casting Beverly
Speaker 1: Hills Now to know, I said, you have to look
Speaker 1: at this guy, Jason Priestly. He's on my favorite sitcom,
Speaker 1: Sister Kate. Oh, and of course he watched it and
Speaker 1: my dad was like, oh and there's Sephany, Oh my gosh.
Speaker 1: Like it was just yeah, so it all works together.
Speaker 1: We were all meant to be together. Oh, I tell
Speaker 1: you I missed the old days, don't you. I missed
Speaker 1: your daddy. It will never be Yeah. It was definitely
Speaker 1: a different way of making television that I don't think
Speaker 1: will ever happen again. I was talking just that somebody
Speaker 1: was asking me. I mean they do on a daily basis,
Speaker 1: but somebody was asking me on the set today about it,
Speaker 1: and I said, it was extraordinarily because it was like
Speaker 1: being under contract to old Hollywood. Being under contract, how
Speaker 1: you could borrow the clothes, you weren't to wear jeans,
Speaker 1: those sort of things. You know. It was. It was
Speaker 1: a very very wonderful, wonderful time. Um. And it had
Speaker 1: its definite rules and they were easy to follow. So
Speaker 1: did they breath knew on too Dynasty already knowing the
Speaker 1: intention of doing a spinoff? Or was that first I
Speaker 1: got cast as say, we'll call be married to Charlton Heston,
Speaker 1: sister in law Barbara Stane, you know, in all the
Speaker 1: most amazing cast, and we went to a party, Um, uh,
Speaker 1: John Forsyth and Lynda Evans, you know, with with Crystal's Place,
Speaker 1: and that's how we span off. That's how we started
Speaker 1: the cold Oh my gosh, amazing. And can you talk
Speaker 1: a little bit about the wardrobe because everyone talks about
Speaker 1: the wardrobe from Dynasty and Colbies. Just to mention the
Speaker 1: wardrobe and you think of Nolan Miller at six o'clock
Speaker 1: in the morning or earlier if need be, on his
Speaker 1: hands and knees inning ahem. He was so hands on,
Speaker 1: that wonderful man, he really was. And he gave me
Speaker 1: the great privilege of making a figure for me in
Speaker 1: the workroom because he said, you don't change shape like
Speaker 1: Elizabeth Taylor, you know you you stay the same shape,
Speaker 1: so I can make you a figure. And therefore we
Speaker 1: only had to have the original conversation about what it
Speaker 1: should know, what it was needed for the scene, and
Speaker 1: then the fitting. I mean that in itself was as
Speaker 1: glamorous as could ever be. It's only the only thing
Speaker 1: that was a down side of it was having new
Speaker 1: shoes every day because they heard five inch new heels
Speaker 1: sort of, and because when I met Linda Evans for
Speaker 1: the first time, I thought, what on earth are you
Speaker 1: doing wearing those fluffy slippers? Well, I was in fluffy
Speaker 1: slippers in between takes. Very soon, I promised, Yes, we
Speaker 1: love the fluffy slippers. Between takes. You had your own, Judy,
Speaker 1: You had a figure your own. That's amazing. So when
Speaker 1: I used to go because he was to me, he
Speaker 1: was uncle Nolan, and I was fascinated with going to
Speaker 1: his shop and he would let me come to the
Speaker 1: shop when I was little, and he would take me
Speaker 1: through all of the amazing iconic actresses and I would
Speaker 1: see their figures, their duties and their names on it,
Speaker 1: and I would just be obsessed and be like, this
Speaker 1: is what I want to do when I grow up,
Speaker 1: and just look at these beautiful figures and be like
Speaker 1: I want to be an actress. And were all these
Speaker 1: glamorous clothes? Um, But you guys definitely created fashion for
Speaker 1: a decade, totally totally. And I can remember one Halloween
Speaker 1: when the guys in West Hollywood, if they weren't Lynda
Speaker 1: Revens and they weren't Joan Collins, they were say, we'll
Speaker 1: cold the um because we were the most wonderfully done
Speaker 1: up people on the planet, weren't we. I mean we
Speaker 1: we The values that were put into that show were extraordinary.
Speaker 1: I mean the materialistic values and the sets, for Heaven's sake,
Speaker 1: I mean the true glab, true glab. The sets were amazing.
Speaker 1: They were they were like my house growing up, but
Speaker 1: they were but a real set, like the details that
Speaker 1: ash trays were real, and just everything of such opulence.
Speaker 1: It was an amazing Sorry to spend so much time
Speaker 1: in this, but I know people are fascinated by Dynasty
Speaker 1: and we're so excited to talk to you. Barbara's Stammack
Speaker 1: said to me, don't ever eat the caveat And I said,
Speaker 1: why not, It looks great. She said, no, it will
Speaker 1: get into your teeth and your smile with black dots um.
Speaker 1: But it was real. It was near or not real cavea.
Speaker 1: I mean, it was extraordinary, wasn't it. Oh my gosh,
Speaker 1: real Cavia. And I feel like on Dynasty, like nowadays,
Speaker 1: wigs are back in and everyone's wearing a wig instead
Speaker 1: of doing their hair over and over again. I remember
Speaker 1: visiting the sets and Linda and Joan had wigs. I
Speaker 1: would visit their makeup room and I'd be like, oh
Speaker 1: my gosh, that was new to me. I didn't understand,
Speaker 1: and did you wear it was all bone hair? Wow,
Speaker 1: where did you go on? Where did it go on? Um?
Speaker 1: That was all my own hair. And Barbara Ronsey was
Speaker 1: the hairdresser and she I said, what am I going
Speaker 1: to look like today, Barbara? And she said, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I haven't felt it yet, but just create amazements. No,
Speaker 1: it was, it was. It was pretty dawn special. But
Speaker 1: come on, goes, what about n O two one? Let's
Speaker 1: talk about it? And I kid, what a very different character.
Speaker 1: Forget about that. I just remember laughing so hard when
Speaker 1: I came into the makeup room one morning and there
Speaker 1: you all were fast asleep in the makeup trade and
Speaker 1: the makeup jos passed out while they were doing our makeup.
Speaker 1: Of course, we were growing teens. We we needed our sleep.
Speaker 1: You were you were fabulous creatures. You were you were,
Speaker 1: You were a terrific bunch of an amazing energy. Thank you.
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. Well it's because of Gus stars like
Speaker 1: you that our show was so successful and um, you know,
Speaker 1: such a memorable was because we were just it was
Speaker 1: really it wasn't it. It was a brilliant idea. It
Speaker 1: was terribly clever and it worked. Incredibly Well, it really did.
Speaker 1: It was a lovely show. Yes, Iris brought so much,
Speaker 1: so many complications I think to Dylan's character and made
Speaker 1: his character so much um juicy or deeper more meaningful. Well,
Speaker 1: you're you're very sweet. But I think that amazing actor
Speaker 1: Luke could do anything that he wanted. He was he
Speaker 1: is a I mean, that's a great actor. What what
Speaker 1: is your favorite memory of working with Luke? With Luke? Oh,
Speaker 1: actually my favorite memory is Luke and Jason singing Tom
Speaker 1: Jones songs in the in the makeup room. Gave me
Speaker 1: a whole Tom Jones concert in the makeup room. That
Speaker 1: brings it all back. I remember that, Yes, yes, just
Speaker 1: the sweetness it because the off time is just as
Speaker 1: important in a day's work, isn't it as as the
Speaker 1: work on screen, because that's what gives the atmosphere. And
Speaker 1: when you've got people who are really lovely to work with,
Speaker 1: um and lovely to be around, well that just makes
Speaker 1: the blitz, doesn't it. Yeah, the connection show on screen,
Speaker 1: the energy between the people. Definitely, and you guys definitely
Speaker 1: had that. Yes, we did. Actually, I both my boys,
Speaker 1: my boys um uh loved dear Um. You studied early
Speaker 1: on to be a mind do you is that something
Speaker 1: that you used? The mind thing was pretty magic. It
Speaker 1: was in Paris and I was no pair at the
Speaker 1: same time and doing this mind thing and it was
Speaker 1: terribly serious mind and did these fearsome exercises. I mean,
Speaker 1: I can dislocate all the parts of my body because
Speaker 1: of these exercises. We're not displ kate, but isolate. Yes,
Speaker 1: that's it. No shoulder movement. Wow, maybe we have a future.
Speaker 1: Maybe we could be mine. Stephanie. We gotta get you
Speaker 1: on TikTok. Yes, that would be I'd do a good tire,
Speaker 1: you would, Stephanie. Before we go, what you said you're
Speaker 1: working today, UM on a project. Can you share with
Speaker 1: us what it is? Okay, it's a really funny, really
Speaker 1: exciting adventure film UM called Renegades. But I'm a policewoman
Speaker 1: who is trying to solve things and I have a
Speaker 1: very small and fun little part. It's like it's like
Speaker 1: fifteen people have got fabulous parts, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: It's one of those it's so interesting. Sorry. Before we go,
Speaker 1: we always ask our guests would you be Team Brandon
Speaker 1: or Team Dylan? And that's a hard one. For you
Speaker 1: to answer because we're so close to old of them.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, blood comes first, it's teamed Okay, thank you
Speaker 1: so much for taking the time to talk with us.
Speaker 1: Oh you're so sweet. It's such a pleasure to see
Speaker 1: you too. Thank you, Stephanie, thank you, thank you, thank you,
Speaker 1: thank you. We love you. M h Okay, guys, let's
Speaker 1: get into fashion, shall we. This episode had a couple
Speaker 1: of good fashion moments, and you think it did. I
Speaker 1: gotta say, I was really into my floral dress that
Speaker 1: I wore in one of the stock market classroom scenes
Speaker 1: because remember NBH nine two O Darren Martin, our biggest fan,
Speaker 1: have that dress and and is it blocked back? Marbert,
Speaker 1: he keeps everything as it blocked back. It was very professional.
Speaker 1: It was very weird. He brought you a baggy with
Speaker 1: a dress in it, and I was like, weird, weird. No,
Speaker 1: but that's the dress he brought you. That's that's the
Speaker 1: dress that he brought to the set that day. I remember.
Speaker 1: He's also like an uber collector, you guys. He has
Speaker 1: a whole room dedicated to nine O two and oh,
Speaker 1: and he has brilliant pieces from over the years. So
Speaker 1: he does keep everything like, uh, labeled and done. So
Speaker 1: he brought it and I was super nervous because I
Speaker 1: was like, I'm not gonna be able to fit into that.
Speaker 1: But thank you spanks for spanks. Later, I got into it, right, Jen,
Speaker 1: you did. I don't know how many pairs of snakes
Speaker 1: you had on that day, but you got into it.
Speaker 1: You had to help me pee, I think at some
Speaker 1: point in the trailer, because when you got a pee,
Speaker 1: it's really hard to get spanks off. Wait, are you
Speaker 1: being serious? Do you really put that many on? Jen?
Speaker 1: Am I missing? She does? No? What's the most what's
Speaker 1: the most amount of spanks you Warren? For an outfit? Jen,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go on record with three, Jennifer eve is
Speaker 1: that you know? I hate odd numbers? Oh? Okay four four?
Speaker 1: She went with four. We're round up. It was four four.
Speaker 1: I don't know how you get the spanks on with
Speaker 1: your nails, Like it's treacherous and you don't do you like,
Speaker 1: poke right through them with those things? Okay? So here, okay,
Speaker 1: so no, I can get them on and off. It
Speaker 1: takes a while. It's no easy feat. But I don't
Speaker 1: know if you guys have tried skims by Kim Kardashian.
Speaker 1: They're really really good, but she doesn't make a pea
Speaker 1: hole in them, And you've got to have the p
Speaker 1: hole because spanks are so tight that sometimes you can't
Speaker 1: get them off. But it's nice when it has that
Speaker 1: little hole, so then it's just a it's just a well,
Speaker 1: it's yeah, it's four of the same spanks that all
Speaker 1: have holes, so then you could. But all of spanks
Speaker 1: now make with holes in them for easy p um
Speaker 1: and skims do not. I love them. They're super good,
Speaker 1: but they don't have a pee hole. And I tried
Speaker 1: once to cut a pe hole into it and the
Speaker 1: whole thing went to put No, I am talking about
Speaker 1: pe holes. This is I don't know the Family show.
Speaker 1: When this is a useful hack for women out there.
Speaker 1: Don't try to cut your own pe hole. You will
Speaker 1: ruin your undergarments. Okay, anyway, back to favorite fashion moment um.
Speaker 1: One of mine was Andrea's floral shirt, and I loved
Speaker 1: it because my mom has a couch in that seem
Speaker 1: floral pattern still to this day. That is amazing. That's amazing.
Speaker 1: I loved that shirt. Sis, did you have a favorite
Speaker 1: fashion moment um? Not necessarily a favorite, but I'm really
Speaker 1: needing Cindy to step up her game a little bit
Speaker 1: with her outfits because the striped collared shirt thing she
Speaker 1: was wearing one of the scenes, I'm just like, she's
Speaker 1: so beautiful, let's like dress her better. And the jeans
Speaker 1: with the bell does not. It's not the best look.
Speaker 1: I know. No oh I. She was so nice to
Speaker 1: Iris in this episode, so it kind of it wasn't
Speaker 1: cute that they were hanging out and she was kind
Speaker 1: of like going with her vibe and you know, trying
Speaker 1: new things. Wait, I want to ask you, guys, what
Speaker 1: is a mind jim? Have you ever been to a
Speaker 1: mind gym? Because in this episode, Iris take Cindy to
Speaker 1: a mind Jim in Beverly Hills, and I don't. I've
Speaker 1: never been to such a thing. It's so funny. I
Speaker 1: was about to say the same thing, but I couldn't
Speaker 1: remember the name. I was going to call it a
Speaker 1: chill bar because I loved the bar set up and
Speaker 1: it was so like the glowing lights and glass Um, no,
Speaker 1: we should do that and drink garlic drinks. It looked
Speaker 1: like a real boring place to go. I gotta tell you,
Speaker 1: is it because like a place you go and meditate
Speaker 1: and drink tea or the evolution of that nowadays would
Speaker 1: be like an oxygen bar, right, or like a meditation um,
Speaker 1: you know, like the den. They have that meditation center
Speaker 1: here in l A. You can go and meditate. M
Speaker 1: where you go float? Have you gone to float? I
Speaker 1: have never floated in a in a tank? What's that called?
Speaker 1: I thought? Tank? Yeah? Right, I did it. I did
Speaker 1: it one thing. I think you would go as nuts
Speaker 1: as I went because I couldn't shut my brain off.
Speaker 1: I had the million one checklist and I was just like, okay,
Speaker 1: so now couldn't in your trapped in like a tank
Speaker 1: of water? Yeah, I think I might have gotten seasick.
Speaker 1: They always have any times in the middle of the mall.
Speaker 1: It seems weird to do it tanks. Yeah, I've seen that.
Speaker 1: Oh my god. I was gonna say, that's like getting
Speaker 1: a chair massage in them and all of them all,
Speaker 1: but I stopped myself. Do you do that? I do that?
Speaker 1: She's pointing at me. I will get a massage wherever
Speaker 1: someone will give me a massage. I love getting a
Speaker 1: massage at the mall. Like I'm down for that. I
Speaker 1: know I would get a massage in the grocery store
Speaker 1: if they would offer that. I mean, I'm all for
Speaker 1: those a little tie like massage places where you just
Speaker 1: like can walk into welcome as long as they have
Speaker 1: a sign up that says no happy endings. But in
Speaker 1: the mall, I would think you, of all people would
Speaker 1: be worried that you could private or like, you know,
Speaker 1: like someone. But once you're once you're there, like in
Speaker 1: the saddle with your face in the thing, nobody knows
Speaker 1: who's there. Nobody sees what you're looking like. It's only
Speaker 1: when you get out and then you have like the
Speaker 1: paper stuck to your face, or you have like an
Speaker 1: imprint of the round thing and you're you're going on
Speaker 1: down to bed Beth and beyond or whatever to get
Speaker 1: your shopping done. It's a little weird, you know. It
Speaker 1: said like, have all your shopping bags near your massage chair.
Speaker 1: You don't want to make you steal it with your
Speaker 1: feet a little bit exactly. Note to anyone in l
Speaker 1: A when you were in a mall, check out those
Speaker 1: chairs because you never know who might be faced down
Speaker 1: in them. It might be Jenny Garden. It's a great deal.
Speaker 1: It is I want to go today. Let's go get
Speaker 1: one today. Minutes in. Well, I have the best line
Speaker 1: from the episode I was watching. When I was watching it,
Speaker 1: it didn't it wasn't in the episode, but when my
Speaker 1: husband walked through the room and I was watching it,
Speaker 1: he goes, why is Brenda wearing a tie? I love
Speaker 1: that favorite line? Uh Brandon saying you'll get used to it. Pal.
Speaker 1: Is it the word pal that? Yeah? I was hey,
Speaker 1: pal like I don't know, I was pal a lot.
Speaker 1: It's an old school term. My dad used to say pal.
Speaker 1: But it was weird to see a teenage boy saying
Speaker 1: pal to his best friend. I don't know. Mine is
Speaker 1: from Kelly Brenn. You can love him, but you can't
Speaker 1: save him, true dad. Yeah, she was kind of tough
Speaker 1: love on that whole telling Brenda how to hang out
Speaker 1: with what you know, how to deal with Dylan. Oh,
Speaker 1: I'm surprised you didn't love the scene where she told
Speaker 1: Jim Walsh that he could mellow out, go somewhere, grow
Speaker 1: a beard, swim naked. I'm sure you got all hot
Speaker 1: and bothered with that scene, didn't you. I did not
Speaker 1: get hot and bothered, No, but I did. Now that
Speaker 1: I'm thinking about Jim. I did like his um, his
Speaker 1: leisure suit at the dinner table. I love a man
Speaker 1: in a eat your suit. We have to get James
Speaker 1: ecass On here. We have to is this infatuation um
Speaker 1: recent or did you feel this way when you were
Speaker 1: actually filming with him at the time. It's a teenager. No,
Speaker 1: this is just as a fan watching the show back.
Speaker 1: I have daddy issues. Hey, sis, do we have any
Speaker 1: questions from listeners? We sure do. Okay, so let's get
Speaker 1: to Erica's She's asking, did your significant others ever get
Speaker 1: jealous or annoyed with your relationships with castmates male or female?
Speaker 1: M that's a good because you guys had a tight bond,
Speaker 1: you know, like even if it wasn't you know, you
Speaker 1: guys didn't were like a love connection on the show.
Speaker 1: But like since your first husband, feel about the wedding
Speaker 1: gift that Lukes sent, we send me said a huge smile.
Speaker 1: What is it believe you're bringing this up? Okay? So
Speaker 1: I got married when I was twenty one, wow, And
Speaker 1: we had a beautiful wedding in Beverly Hills. And Luke
Speaker 1: couldn't come to the wedding, but he did send a gift,
Speaker 1: and he sent a breadmaker. And the only reason he
Speaker 1: sent a bread maker was because it was called Mr Loaf.
Speaker 1: I don't get it. He wasn't a fan of her
Speaker 1: first husband. He he felt that the title said it
Speaker 1: all got it? No card, no card, just Mr Loaf.
Speaker 1: How did he feel? He didn't know, He had no
Speaker 1: idea that he didn't make the connection. He didn't. He
Speaker 1: didn't know it all. Only I knew you might have
Speaker 1: gotten mad at the time, but secretly you were laughing.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, definitely. I don't think I got mad at
Speaker 1: the time either. I think I was just laughing because
Speaker 1: it's like a like your brother, would you know, like
Speaker 1: say something about your your boyfriend and your husband or whatever?
Speaker 1: But I don't. Oh please, you want to hear another
Speaker 1: joke he said about I don't even know if it
Speaker 1: was more my husband or or boyfriend. I don't know
Speaker 1: what it was. Oh yeah, so and so is having
Speaker 1: friends over friends over tonight. Ten friends. He hasn't seen
Speaker 1: it in a while. His toes that was about the same. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I guess that thought he meant. I don't know, he
Speaker 1: felt like my husband had a big tummy or something. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think he's not even a beer gut at the time,
Speaker 1: because I think he was jelly probably, Yeah, sounds it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we were all really close, so for me, it was
Speaker 1: always just a matter of managing that, especially with the
Speaker 1: male co stars, because I always just had to say,
Speaker 1: they're like brothers. You know, these are like my brothers,
Speaker 1: and you're going to have to deal with it. You're
Speaker 1: gonna have to get over if you have any issue
Speaker 1: with it, because we're really close and we have to
Speaker 1: be and you don't need to be threatened by them.
Speaker 1: But they watch the episodes, Um, yeah, I don't remember
Speaker 1: ever sitting down and watching an episode with an X
Speaker 1: that was like, you know, Kelly making out with somebody.
Speaker 1: I know now when Dave watches episodes back with me
Speaker 1: and he sees Kelly being sassy or like sexy or
Speaker 1: kissing some guy, he just makes a big joke out
Speaker 1: of it, like he laughs at it and get but
Speaker 1: he does. You can tell he gets a little bit
Speaker 1: like stirred up inside and he deals with it with humor. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's like a clear sign. Um. There's like a running
Speaker 1: theme of Luke not liking our exes. Because Luke hated
Speaker 1: one of my ex is rightfully, so everyone did. But anyway,
Speaker 1: at my parents Christmas Eve party, Luke punch my ex
Speaker 1: boyfriend and that was really uncomfortable because I lived with
Speaker 1: them and he was like it was a whole big deal.
Speaker 1: And then I had to go to set and it
Speaker 1: was really hard because Luke was really upset and we
Speaker 1: didn't talk for six months outside of filming. That's crazy
Speaker 1: to not talk to somebody outside of film, mean, did
Speaker 1: that happen more than once with any other I was mad,
Speaker 1: but not mad, like I knew it was right because
Speaker 1: he was supporting Later I saw that he was protecting me.
Speaker 1: But at the time, when you're in the relationship and
Speaker 1: you're the one that's getting yelled at it at home,
Speaker 1: like why are your friends so mean to me? Like
Speaker 1: you have to deal with that on both sides. So
Speaker 1: I was like really mad at Luke um. But yeah,
Speaker 1: he was right. He was always right. He was just
Speaker 1: so protective of us, and hindsight, it's so nice. We
Speaker 1: had such great brothers, you know, totally Okay mc nsy
Speaker 1: is asking. Tori has openly talked about how she and
Speaker 1: Jason had a summer romance. Was it taking place during
Speaker 1: the filming of these specific episodes problems that she just
Speaker 1: has her head in her and did it ever cause
Speaker 1: problems on set? Especially with Brian. Literally, if you guys
Speaker 1: could see right now, Tori is hiding from this, hide
Speaker 1: from the question. The microphone is right there. We can
Speaker 1: still hear you. Did hear me go? Yeah? But when
Speaker 1: did you openly talk about summer? Was it in a book? No?
Speaker 1: It was on It was on a show called Celebrity
Speaker 1: Lie Detector. I couldn't lie. You could have lied and
Speaker 1: then they would have like guessed that it was true,
Speaker 1: and then you would have won. I screwed up. I
Speaker 1: wasn't thinking clearly, and I panicked and I said it
Speaker 1: and and then it was everywhere and whatever. Anyway, Okay,
Speaker 1: so tell us what did you say? I remember, Jen,
Speaker 1: when was it? It was? Brian didn't care because by then, Brian,
Speaker 1: Brian I were a thing of the past. Now it
Speaker 1: was like, after looking at me, I'm like, I don't remember.
Speaker 1: It was the summer between season seven and eight and
Speaker 1: season seven and eight. I don't know why that comes
Speaker 1: to mind. I don't know as deep. I'm not sure
Speaker 1: if it was then, but it was deep into this.
Speaker 1: I had brown hair, I go by hair colors during
Speaker 1: the whole filming, and now I go by when I
Speaker 1: had kids, back in my twenties and teens, I went
Speaker 1: by hair colors on the TV show I had ter college,
Speaker 1: so it was after college. Yes, yes, why did I
Speaker 1: well either block this from my memory or never knew
Speaker 1: about this? Was it secret of at the time? He
Speaker 1: is sneaking around? I haven't you. You can't tell people
Speaker 1: to I was scared to tell you. Oh my god,
Speaker 1: you learn something new everyday. People. This juicy. We'll give
Speaker 1: us some more. Deed, No, she doesn't want to talk
Speaker 1: about it, that's all you said on that show. We're
Speaker 1: not going to make you elaborate on it if you
Speaker 1: don't want to, but we would really like to hear
Speaker 1: the details. It didn't cause any problems, and we've all
Speaker 1: remained really super close friends. You all right, do you
Speaker 1: want to talk about any of your secret romances? Jenny Um.
Speaker 1: I don't think the question was geared towards me. McKenzie
Speaker 1: specifically asked Tori you question, and I don't think I'm
Speaker 1: in a comment on that any further. Well, I think
Speaker 1: that's going to do it for this episode. Ladies. Yes,
Speaker 1: thank you, so much. Everybody out there, UM, text me
Speaker 1: after where do you guys? I'll tell you all the details.
Speaker 1: I'm just kidding, my goodness. I love you guys. Oh. Next,
Speaker 1: We'll have a great week. Next episode, Season two, episode eleven,
Speaker 1: Leading from the Heart. Be there or be Square.