WEBVTT - Postgame Show: Eagles Lose 16-30 to the Green Bay Packers 0:00:04.600 --> 0:00:07.160 And thirty to sixteen. Year final score is the Eagles 0:00:07.160 --> 0:00:09.440 fall to the green Bay Packers in lambeau Field after 0:00:09.760 --> 0:00:12.319 starting three to nothing and then not able to get 0:00:12.320 --> 0:00:15.320 the lead after that, green Bay taking off, the Eagles 0:00:15.400 --> 0:00:18.439 making a push there but unable to get the job 0:00:18.480 --> 0:00:20.919 done against Aaron Rodgers in this Packers offense that was 0:00:20.960 --> 0:00:23.800 firing on all cylinders today. Thanks for joining us here 0:00:24.000 --> 0:00:26.840 on the postgame show presented by Rico, Amy Campbell, joined 0:00:26.840 --> 0:00:29.520 by Fran Duffy and Ike Greece. We have plenty to 0:00:29.560 --> 0:00:31.640 break down from this one today, guys, and of course 0:00:31.680 --> 0:00:34.320 what everyone's going to be talking about. Jalen Hurtz comes 0:00:34.320 --> 0:00:36.560 in in the third quarter and finishes out the game 0:00:37.159 --> 0:00:40.159 at quarterback for the Eagles. We will evaluate his performance. 0:00:40.200 --> 0:00:42.199 I'm sure everyone's going to be really interested to hear 0:00:42.240 --> 0:00:45.080 what Coach Peterson has to say when he is taking 0:00:45.120 --> 0:00:47.279 the podium. We will carry that live right here on 0:00:47.280 --> 0:00:50.400 this show. But guys, let's get into the big picture thoughts. Fran, 0:00:50.680 --> 0:00:54.480 what do you take away from this one? Yeah, I mean, look, obviously, look, 0:00:54.480 --> 0:00:56.400 Carson Wentz has not played well, right, I mean, there's 0:00:56.440 --> 0:00:58.640 no getting around that. And the first part of this 0:00:58.680 --> 0:01:01.639 game the first half and change was more the same. Right, 0:01:01.680 --> 0:01:03.960 we saw a lot of sacks. It was just, you know, 0:01:04.000 --> 0:01:07.120 the offense just not being able to move the ball consistently. 0:01:07.160 --> 0:01:09.200 So the team offered, you know a little bit of 0:01:09.200 --> 0:01:11.400 a change up here, putting the rookie quarterback in to 0:01:11.480 --> 0:01:13.480 see what he can do. Look, he completed five of 0:01:13.560 --> 0:01:15.480 twelve attempts. He threw the pick there at the end. 0:01:15.800 --> 0:01:17.319 We did see him get rid of the football, We 0:01:17.319 --> 0:01:19.119 saw him create with his legs. So we saw some 0:01:19.160 --> 0:01:21.520 good things, we saw some bad. I'm interested to go 0:01:21.600 --> 0:01:24.320 back and watch the film tomorrow morning. Yeah, they're certainly 0:01:24.440 --> 0:01:26.440 going to be plenty of look at on that film. Mike, 0:01:26.520 --> 0:01:28.720 I want to come to you now same question. What 0:01:28.800 --> 0:01:32.240 are your overall thoughts as we will get into the details, 0:01:32.240 --> 0:01:37.080 but just big picture, what's your takeaway from this game? Well, 0:01:37.240 --> 0:01:39.759 just a tough game, I mean pretty much what we've 0:01:39.800 --> 0:01:43.440 watched this offense due since they returned from the boyweek. 0:01:43.520 --> 0:01:46.240 What is that three straight games? Four straight games? Now 0:01:46.640 --> 0:01:50.040 where the offense just seeing the struggle. Even though they 0:01:50.080 --> 0:01:51.920 came out on that open end drive and they were 0:01:51.960 --> 0:01:54.760 able to get three points, in fact of the matter 0:01:54.880 --> 0:01:57.240 is they weren't able to get seven points, and then 0:01:57.240 --> 0:01:59.920 the next time down you had a bad sack take 0:02:00.120 --> 0:02:02.040 in there and where you were knocked out of field 0:02:02.040 --> 0:02:04.320 goal range, and from that point on you pretty much 0:02:04.320 --> 0:02:07.320 didn't have anything going on that side of the football. 0:02:07.560 --> 0:02:10.200 I thought the defense held in there as best they 0:02:10.240 --> 0:02:13.320 could as long as they could. Aaron Rodgers did with 0:02:13.440 --> 0:02:16.799 Aaron Rodgers typically does, which is fine, DeVante Adams which 0:02:16.919 --> 0:02:20.360 is fine. His open receivers. He's arguably the best thrower 0:02:20.680 --> 0:02:23.440 of the football that the game has ever seen. And 0:02:23.480 --> 0:02:26.400 when you don't get pressure on Aaron Rodgers, he's gonna 0:02:26.440 --> 0:02:28.799 make you pay. And that's what you saw. You saw 0:02:28.840 --> 0:02:31.359 the Green Bay Packers pretty much have control of this 0:02:31.400 --> 0:02:35.080 game until late in that fourth quarter, midway through the 0:02:35.080 --> 0:02:39.240 fourth quarter, where Jalen Hurts was inserted into the game 0:02:39.280 --> 0:02:42.080 for the first time and he was able to provide 0:02:42.080 --> 0:02:46.080 a spark with some off scheduled plays. He'd been able 0:02:46.080 --> 0:02:48.960 to use his legs and athleticism. And then you saw 0:02:49.120 --> 0:02:51.600 Raider with a nice pump returning for a touchdown. But 0:02:51.760 --> 0:02:56.240 just too little, too late in that game, and this 0:02:56.280 --> 0:03:00.360 game really boiled down to another slow start and the 0:03:00.400 --> 0:03:03.800 inability of the offense. It's really to get anything going 0:03:04.200 --> 0:03:06.880 early in this game, and I would say seventy seven 0:03:07.120 --> 0:03:10.080 yard return for a touchdown for the rookie wide receiver 0:03:10.200 --> 0:03:13.280 Jalen Rigger. There, let's go over to Dave Spadero now, 0:03:13.280 --> 0:03:16.119 and Dave look a lot to be taken from this game. 0:03:16.160 --> 0:03:18.200 Of course, the Jalen Hurts storyline is going to be 0:03:18.200 --> 0:03:20.640 something probably people are talking about all week. But we 0:03:20.680 --> 0:03:23.480 saw Aaron Rodgers in this Packers offense do what they do, 0:03:23.600 --> 0:03:27.480 continue to be explosive. They score thirty points, they dominate 0:03:27.480 --> 0:03:30.840 almost every category, more than four hundred yards of offense. 0:03:30.880 --> 0:03:34.800 Aaron Rodgers scores his four hundred touchdown pass DeVante Adams 0:03:34.800 --> 0:03:37.160 two touchdowns, more than one hundred yards for him. What 0:03:37.240 --> 0:03:39.320 are your what's kind of your big takeaway from this one? 0:03:39.640 --> 0:03:43.000 It's about Jalen Hurts. It's about the quarterback situation, Eagles 0:03:43.040 --> 0:03:45.600 defense four man rush. I wanted to see more pressure. 0:03:45.600 --> 0:03:47.040 I want to see mix him up a little bit. 0:03:47.560 --> 0:03:50.520 Jim Schwartz decided to instead play coverage and that was 0:03:50.560 --> 0:03:52.400 a tough call. I mean, it's very difficult to do 0:03:52.440 --> 0:03:55.280 anything against Aaron Rodgers, But to me, it was so 0:03:55.480 --> 0:03:59.920 noticeable when Jalen Hurts win in the game. The energy level, 0:04:00.200 --> 0:04:02.440 the speed, the tempo of this football team, not only 0:04:02.440 --> 0:04:06.040 on offense, defense, special teams. Everybody just seemed to play 0:04:06.040 --> 0:04:08.600 with more energy. And the throw he made to Greg 0:04:08.640 --> 0:04:11.560 Ward for the touchdown fourth and eighteen, rolling away from 0:04:11.600 --> 0:04:15.240 pressure for a rookie in that situation, that's an exceptional throw. 0:04:15.360 --> 0:04:18.800 That's an exceptional play. Cool got the ball out there, 0:04:19.440 --> 0:04:22.159 nice arm strength. I don't know what is going to 0:04:22.200 --> 0:04:25.040 happen here. I am not speaking for the Philadelphia Eagles here, 0:04:25.279 --> 0:04:28.000 but I would be very surprised if Jalen Hurts is 0:04:28.040 --> 0:04:30.760 not the starter next week against the New Orleans Saints. 0:04:30.920 --> 0:04:34.000 The Giants won today in Seattle, big upset for them. 0:04:34.240 --> 0:04:36.280 They have a game and a half lead on the Eagles. 0:04:36.320 --> 0:04:39.040 It's not about the division right now, okay, It's about 0:04:39.080 --> 0:04:43.320 who's given you the best chance at quarterback. It's Jalen Hurts. 0:04:43.400 --> 0:04:47.360 After watching Carson Wentz struggle yet again, I think it's 0:04:47.400 --> 0:04:49.640 time to give the kid a chance. See what you 0:04:49.680 --> 0:04:51.560 can do with a week of preparation agains the Saints again. 0:04:51.760 --> 0:04:54.560 That is my opinion. We'll see what Doug Peterson says. 0:04:54.560 --> 0:04:56.839 He may be noncommittal after the game. But it was 0:04:56.920 --> 0:04:59.719 the big takeaway from me was how clear it was 0:05:00.240 --> 0:05:03.080 the level of energy that picked up around this football 0:05:03.080 --> 0:05:07.200 team when Jalen Hurts came into the game. Dave, I'm 0:05:07.240 --> 0:05:08.840 interested to just kind of get your thoughts. I mean, 0:05:08.880 --> 0:05:11.280 you kind of just laid out there how you feel 0:05:11.279 --> 0:05:13.479 about how this could go over the course of the 0:05:13.480 --> 0:05:15.640 next few days. I mean, we're all gonna be staying 0:05:15.680 --> 0:05:18.280 tuned to listen to what Doug Peterson says after this game. 0:05:18.400 --> 0:05:20.240 I'll be interested to see if that, you know, does 0:05:20.320 --> 0:05:22.640 kind of change for tomorrow. As you said, you know, 0:05:22.760 --> 0:05:25.119 might be not committal, you know, right here in the moment, 0:05:25.200 --> 0:05:27.280 but we're all gonna be tuned, tod in listening right here, 0:05:27.560 --> 0:05:29.640 right here at philadelphiels dot com in a few minutes 0:05:29.640 --> 0:05:31.960 for when Doug Peterson speaks. Yeah, there's no doubt. And 0:05:32.000 --> 0:05:34.160 Fran it may be noncommittally, we're in the heat of 0:05:34.200 --> 0:05:36.359 the moment here. Doug is thinking about the loss, not 0:05:36.480 --> 0:05:39.800 about the future, not about the big picture. But I've 0:05:39.800 --> 0:05:42.560 been around here long enough to see quarterback changes. When 0:05:42.640 --> 0:05:44.159 is the right time, when is not the right time. 0:05:44.200 --> 0:05:47.280 We go back to two thousand and eight when Donovan 0:05:47.360 --> 0:05:50.520 McNatt was benched and then he came back in and 0:05:50.640 --> 0:05:53.120 played and played very well, but he wasn't in as 0:05:53.160 --> 0:05:56.360 long of a prolonged stretch of just poor play at 0:05:56.360 --> 0:06:00.240 the quarterback position Carson Wentz. We have to at some 0:06:00.320 --> 0:06:03.480 point here in the weeks to come the offseason talk 0:06:03.480 --> 0:06:05.800 about what has happened to him this season? How do 0:06:05.880 --> 0:06:09.279 you get him back for twenty twenty one. The Eagles 0:06:09.279 --> 0:06:12.040 certainly want to rehabilitate and bring out the very best 0:06:12.040 --> 0:06:14.760 in Carson Wentz. But for right now, you're not seeing that. 0:06:14.839 --> 0:06:17.120 And I'm not sure in a short week how you're 0:06:17.160 --> 0:06:20.120 going to see that unless you know, I don't know 0:06:20.160 --> 0:06:22.600 the answer. But all I know is this again, when 0:06:22.680 --> 0:06:25.200 Jalen Hurts came into the game, it was a different feel. 0:06:25.600 --> 0:06:27.640 It was a different level of energy, it was a 0:06:27.680 --> 0:06:30.800 different level of tempo and the production. All of a sudden, 0:06:30.800 --> 0:06:33.479 receivers were open, Jalen Reager was open down the field, 0:06:33.480 --> 0:06:36.479 great Ward was open. The tight ends created separation. You 0:06:36.560 --> 0:06:38.960 just didn't see that for the last several weeks here 0:06:38.960 --> 0:06:44.480 with Carson Wentz at quarterback. Yeah. Day, I mean, obviously 0:06:44.480 --> 0:06:46.520 this is going to be the number one topic. You know, 0:06:46.680 --> 0:06:50.400 the Eagles fans have been certainly clamoring to get Jalen 0:06:50.520 --> 0:06:52.560 Hurts out there on the field and some sort of 0:06:52.600 --> 0:06:55.640 extensive action. This is the first time we've gotten a 0:06:55.720 --> 0:06:58.920 chance to watch him an extensive action. Now, as far 0:06:58.920 --> 0:07:01.560 as I'm concerned, this is a twenty to three game 0:07:02.040 --> 0:07:05.000 with nothing to lose. It was a long shot for 0:07:05.080 --> 0:07:07.240 him to win this game. He went out there and 0:07:07.320 --> 0:07:09.800 he provided a spark. He was able to move around 0:07:10.200 --> 0:07:13.080 and make some all schedule throws. I thought the same 0:07:13.160 --> 0:07:16.400 issues that playing Carson Wentz, Jalen Hurts saw some of 0:07:16.400 --> 0:07:19.560 those things. The big difference was Jalen Hursts certainly is 0:07:19.560 --> 0:07:23.400 a much better athlete at the quarterback position, and maybe 0:07:23.400 --> 0:07:25.680 that does give you a little bit of a spark. 0:07:25.960 --> 0:07:28.360 It's a different defense they're gonna be facing next week, 0:07:28.480 --> 0:07:32.000 arguably the best in Pro football with the New Orleans 0:07:32.040 --> 0:07:35.800 Saints the Eagles. Right now, the big question is what 0:07:35.880 --> 0:07:39.120 do you have at quarterback? And although it looked good 0:07:39.120 --> 0:07:41.960 for seven minutes out there, I think we still are 0:07:42.000 --> 0:07:45.520 a long way away from finding out who's the quarterback 0:07:45.600 --> 0:07:48.280 moving forward. But it was nice to see Jalen Hurts 0:07:48.280 --> 0:07:51.520 out there some extensive action. Wouldn't you say, yeah, yeah, 0:07:51.520 --> 0:07:53.480 I agree with you, and I'm not getting big picture here. 0:07:53.480 --> 0:07:55.000 I'm in the heat of the moment too, looking at 0:07:55.040 --> 0:07:57.200 that game and figure it feeling like, hey it just 0:07:57.440 --> 0:07:58.960 if I'm in that locker room, Mike, I mean you 0:07:59.200 --> 0:08:01.520 take me into the locker. Okay, you're a player. You 0:08:01.680 --> 0:08:04.600 felt the difference out there when Jalen Hurts came into 0:08:04.600 --> 0:08:07.760 the game. What would your expectation be as a player? 0:08:08.080 --> 0:08:11.040 Would you would you just accept either quarterback? I'm sure? 0:08:11.080 --> 0:08:14.679 But it did you? Like, did it not feel different 0:08:14.720 --> 0:08:18.360 out there when when Jayalen went in? Yeah, no, no 0:08:18.400 --> 0:08:20.760 doubt about it. I mean you noticed it. You noticed it, 0:08:20.960 --> 0:08:25.360 and you're exactly right. He provided a different level of energy, 0:08:25.800 --> 0:08:28.320 a new spark, and players feed off of that. I 0:08:28.360 --> 0:08:31.640 mean players are human as well, and so when you 0:08:31.640 --> 0:08:34.240 get the guy in there with some fresh energy and 0:08:34.280 --> 0:08:37.240 he's giving you the opportunity to make place and then 0:08:37.280 --> 0:08:41.480 you see positive things happen, players respond to that. And 0:08:41.559 --> 0:08:44.880 immediately you saw the punk retire for a touchdown from 0:08:45.000 --> 0:08:49.080 Jalen Rager. Those things are real. But the big question 0:08:49.280 --> 0:08:51.960 is is that this coaching staff, starting with the head coach, 0:08:52.360 --> 0:08:54.400 is going to have to figure out is that something 0:08:54.400 --> 0:08:57.040 that just happened in a vacuum at the end of 0:08:57.040 --> 0:08:59.680 the game, where you got the Green Bay Packers who 0:08:59.679 --> 0:09:02.600 weren't prepared for Jalen Hurts, who are also playing a 0:09:02.600 --> 0:09:04.800 little bit of an umbrella defense because you got a 0:09:04.840 --> 0:09:08.800 twenty to three league. That's different than a guy being 0:09:08.920 --> 0:09:11.560 game planned for and having to be out there for 0:09:11.640 --> 0:09:15.200 an entire game. So for the players, you're certainly right. 0:09:15.280 --> 0:09:18.920 The energy was provided, the spark was providing. I'm just 0:09:19.000 --> 0:09:22.840 wondering is this sustainable for four quarters when you go 0:09:22.880 --> 0:09:25.360 out there against the New Orleans Saints next week? And 0:09:25.400 --> 0:09:27.959 that's understood, but I'll tell you this, if you are 0:09:28.040 --> 0:09:30.920 Doug Peterson, you have to take into account, right, like 0:09:31.160 --> 0:09:34.200 what's happened here through twelve games and what's happened to 0:09:34.240 --> 0:09:37.560 this offense with Carson wins. I mean, it's not you're 0:09:37.559 --> 0:09:40.480 also I get it. Look, the Saints are gonna whoever 0:09:40.480 --> 0:09:42.080 the quarterbacks, the Saints are gonna have a week to 0:09:42.120 --> 0:09:46.160 prepare for that quarterback. But the way that Carson has played, 0:09:46.200 --> 0:09:49.400 the way the offense has responded, that has to be 0:09:49.440 --> 0:09:54.120 taken into consideration. Also, Dave, what were your thoughts just 0:09:54.200 --> 0:09:56.440 on seeing Jayleen we talked about Jalen Reagor. Let's start 0:09:56.440 --> 0:09:59.000 Taylor Jalen Hurts. Let's talk about Jalen Reagor. What were 0:09:59.040 --> 0:10:01.280 your thoughts seeing him break when we saw the biggest 0:10:01.280 --> 0:10:04.800 play of his young career. Finally, you know, the big 0:10:04.840 --> 0:10:07.600 return game that the Eagles have just been unable to 0:10:07.640 --> 0:10:11.120 get anything going in the return game too. To see 0:10:11.240 --> 0:10:14.040 Jalen Reagor do that, you understand why the Eagles loved 0:10:14.080 --> 0:10:16.600 him so much in the draft as a return man 0:10:17.080 --> 0:10:19.280 getting down the field in the past game he was open, 0:10:19.320 --> 0:10:22.880 had a nice catch from Jalen Hurts. So very encouraging 0:10:23.200 --> 0:10:26.520 to see those two young players, the two Jalen's really 0:10:26.600 --> 0:10:29.800 step up in a moment where this the Eagles need energy. 0:10:29.800 --> 0:10:31.800 I mean, my gosh, where is this offense going? Where 0:10:31.800 --> 0:10:34.840 are they getting big plays? And a play like Jalen 0:10:34.920 --> 0:10:38.520 Ragor makes really goes a long way to boosting his confidence, 0:10:38.559 --> 0:10:40.760 to making him feel better, and to having him be 0:10:40.840 --> 0:10:43.520 more productive in the offense and on special team. So 0:10:43.679 --> 0:10:46.120 loved what I saw from Jalen Reagor, albeit in a 0:10:46.160 --> 0:10:49.920 losing cause. Well, Dave, as always, we appreciate your thoughts, 0:10:49.960 --> 0:10:52.280 We appreciate your insight and it will all be keeping 0:10:52.320 --> 0:10:54.720 a close eye on Coach Peterson's press conference coming up 0:10:54.720 --> 0:10:56.520 here in a little bit. Thanks so much for joining us. 0:10:56.800 --> 0:11:00.760 All right, guys, all right, I want to get back 0:11:00.760 --> 0:11:03.560 to you here with your takeaways. Let's get to the 0:11:03.600 --> 0:11:06.400 first thing that really stood out to you is a 0:11:06.520 --> 0:11:12.600 Jalen Hurts related Well, no, it's it's it's actually Carson 0:11:12.679 --> 0:11:15.679 Wentz in the first team offense related. Obviously, Winch was 0:11:15.720 --> 0:11:19.000 the only one that the change happened when Jalen Hurts 0:11:19.080 --> 0:11:23.400 came in, But for basically three quarters the offense was 0:11:23.520 --> 0:11:28.040 lifeless out there, Unable to sustain drives, unable to protect 0:11:28.120 --> 0:11:32.000 the quarterback, and unable to get anything going even when 0:11:32.040 --> 0:11:35.520 they had a little bit of momentum. Like the first drive, 0:11:35.840 --> 0:11:37.839 you're only able to get three points out of the 0:11:37.960 --> 0:11:40.640 edge drive. And then you have a third and eleven 0:11:41.080 --> 0:11:44.440 and you're impacker territory and you're in field goal range, 0:11:44.840 --> 0:11:48.680 and you know, you dial up a play and there's 0:11:48.720 --> 0:11:51.240 a sack to where you're sacked out of field goal range. 0:11:51.240 --> 0:11:54.960 So you get nothing out of that, right, So it's 0:11:55.000 --> 0:11:58.400 just some of the same things that we've been seeing 0:11:58.440 --> 0:12:01.280 over the last before West the Eagles have come back 0:12:01.320 --> 0:12:05.200 from the bye week that the offense just failed to 0:12:05.240 --> 0:12:08.600 provide any type of energy plays out there, any type 0:12:08.600 --> 0:12:11.719 of big plays, and this game was hanging there in 0:12:11.760 --> 0:12:14.680 the balance, waiting for something to happen, and they couldn't 0:12:14.720 --> 0:12:17.600 get anything going. Where was the running game for the 0:12:17.640 --> 0:12:21.040 first two and a half quarters. Only nine rushing attempts 0:12:21.360 --> 0:12:23.720 in the first half. It's just like the I mean 0:12:23.800 --> 0:12:26.800 that first drive, I saw movement, I saw getting the 0:12:26.880 --> 0:12:30.400 quarterback outside the pocket, and after that it seemed like 0:12:30.440 --> 0:12:33.920 the offense was very redundant when you look at the 0:12:33.960 --> 0:12:37.040 sort of passing plays that were there. So just nothing 0:12:37.080 --> 0:12:43.840 there from a spark being provided from that offense for 0:12:43.920 --> 0:12:47.280 about three quarters. When we talked about that in the 0:12:47.280 --> 0:12:50.000 pregame show, the importance of not only starting fast, but 0:12:50.080 --> 0:12:52.679 also scoring points in the first half. The Packers one 0:12:52.679 --> 0:12:54.880 of the best teams in the NFL at first half points, 0:12:54.920 --> 0:12:57.240 the Eagles towards the bottom of the NFL and first 0:12:57.280 --> 0:13:01.000 half points. So you mentioned it. At halftime, it's fourteen 0:13:01.040 --> 0:13:03.720 to three, the Eagles trailing. The Eagles in their last 0:13:03.760 --> 0:13:06.000 four games have scored a total of twelve points in 0:13:06.040 --> 0:13:08.920 the first half, so continuing to be plagued by those 0:13:08.960 --> 0:13:12.080 slow starts there, even though we did see them come 0:13:12.120 --> 0:13:15.400 out and strike first, followed by or the defense also 0:13:15.760 --> 0:13:17.559 starting with the three and out, so you start to 0:13:17.559 --> 0:13:19.439 feel like, okay, they're putting it a little bit together 0:13:19.480 --> 0:13:21.760 on both sides here. But you mentioned only nine rushing 0:13:21.760 --> 0:13:24.720 attempts for Philadelphia in the first half as well, Fran, 0:13:24.800 --> 0:13:27.040 what did you see from the offense? It did really 0:13:27.040 --> 0:13:29.920 feel like there was you know, we have the first 0:13:30.080 --> 0:13:32.480 half plus a little bit of that third quarter to 0:13:32.559 --> 0:13:35.280 evaluate and then the Jalen Hurts coming in is a 0:13:35.280 --> 0:13:37.040 little bit of a different feel to the game, like 0:13:37.120 --> 0:13:39.360 Spuds talked about. But what did you see kind of 0:13:39.400 --> 0:13:41.520 early on there that I touched? I thought the first 0:13:41.600 --> 0:13:43.760 quarter was kind of the formula, right, I mean that 0:13:43.800 --> 0:13:45.439 was kind of the blueprint I feel like coming in 0:13:45.520 --> 0:13:47.760 because I mean I think Green Bay ran four plays 0:13:47.840 --> 0:13:50.040 or five plays in the first quarter. The Eagles were 0:13:50.040 --> 0:13:52.520 able to possess the football. They had the run game going. 0:13:52.679 --> 0:13:55.199 A lot of the throws for Carson Wentz were well defined, 0:13:55.360 --> 0:13:57.200 you know, you know, they moved the pocket a little bit, 0:13:57.240 --> 0:13:58.960 You had a couple of things going. You're able to 0:13:58.960 --> 0:14:01.679 move the football. You just couldn't finish drives, as I 0:14:01.760 --> 0:14:04.480 alluded to, so as they got behind the sticks that 0:14:04.600 --> 0:14:07.839 second drive where you know they had a penalty, now 0:14:07.880 --> 0:14:09.760 it's first and long, you have a little bit of 0:14:09.760 --> 0:14:11.720 a run play that now you're in second and long, 0:14:12.080 --> 0:14:13.600 and now you take two sacks in a row, the 0:14:13.640 --> 0:14:15.719 second one taking you out of field goal range. And 0:14:16.040 --> 0:14:18.959 after that it was all kind of fining that following 0:14:19.000 --> 0:14:21.760 that same script where they just could not move the 0:14:21.800 --> 0:14:24.520 ball with consistency, and that ultimately led to the change 0:14:24.520 --> 0:14:27.000 of quarterback. Well, and you talk about both of those 0:14:27.000 --> 0:14:30.440 sacks ran. The offensive line gave up seven sacks in 0:14:30.480 --> 0:14:33.320 this game. Doug Peterson threw Tracy wolf Signed, the sideline 0:14:33.320 --> 0:14:36.080 reporter for the game, did say that they were not 0:14:36.160 --> 0:14:37.960 all on the offensive line, They were not all on 0:14:38.000 --> 0:14:40.280 the quarterback. They were not there. You know that each one, 0:14:40.320 --> 0:14:43.360 of course, has a different blame to go around. But 0:14:43.480 --> 0:14:46.880 still seven sacks, four on Carson Wentz, three on Jalen Hurts. 0:14:46.920 --> 0:14:49.400 You're getting hit that many times. I think there's really 0:14:49.440 --> 0:14:51.640 only so much an offense can do. And look, we 0:14:51.680 --> 0:14:54.160 saw more injuries to the offensive line as well, Jason 0:14:54.200 --> 0:14:56.440 Peters going out with I believe it was a foot 0:14:56.480 --> 0:14:59.320 or an ankle injury. He's also been banged up this 0:14:59.360 --> 0:15:03.280 season and just continuing to just rotate different bodies and 0:15:03.360 --> 0:15:05.440 on that offensive line. I mean that has to take 0:15:05.440 --> 0:15:07.920 a toll on an offense after a season like this, 0:15:07.920 --> 0:15:10.560 wouldn't you say so? Fran Absolutely. I mean it's more 0:15:10.560 --> 0:15:12.320 of the same. It's the same thing we've been saying. 0:15:12.560 --> 0:15:15.560 It's been eleven different combinations to start twelve different games. 0:15:15.960 --> 0:15:18.080 Who knows, maybe it'll be at twelve to start thirteen 0:15:18.120 --> 0:15:21.400 games start next week. I guess we'll wait to find out. Well, 0:15:21.480 --> 0:15:24.040 there is no team in the NFL that is dealing 0:15:24.080 --> 0:15:26.640 with that kind of injuries to a unit that is 0:15:26.800 --> 0:15:30.120 that important, So it should not be something that is 0:15:30.200 --> 0:15:33.400 overlooked in these conversations when we talk about the struggling offense. 0:15:33.520 --> 0:15:35.360 All right, Mike, what else stood out to you from 0:15:35.400 --> 0:15:39.000 this one? Well, now we can get to the hot 0:15:39.040 --> 0:15:42.520 topic of the game, and that's the Jalen Hurts effect 0:15:42.680 --> 0:15:46.920 and what he had on this offense and provide a 0:15:46.920 --> 0:15:50.640 little bit of excitement for Eagle fans and his teammates 0:15:51.040 --> 0:15:54.120 the last quarter or so of this game. Now, a 0:15:54.200 --> 0:15:56.840 great thing about being a backup quarterback when you're coming 0:15:56.880 --> 0:16:00.520 in and the game that seemingly already decided is that 0:16:00.880 --> 0:16:02.960 you don't have any pressure on you. You can go 0:16:03.000 --> 0:16:07.000 out there and just perform, just play relaxed. This was 0:16:07.040 --> 0:16:10.160 his first extensive action. This was like a preseason game 0:16:10.520 --> 0:16:14.480 for Jalen Hursts, with the exception the nation was watching, 0:16:14.680 --> 0:16:17.560 and I thought he conducted himself very well out there listening. 0:16:17.680 --> 0:16:21.600 Everything wasn't perfect, that's to be expected in his first 0:16:21.600 --> 0:16:24.680 extensive action. But the one thing I liked about what 0:16:24.760 --> 0:16:27.120 I saw from Jalen Hurts is that there seemed to 0:16:27.120 --> 0:16:31.080 be a calm, a calmness about his game. He didn't 0:16:31.080 --> 0:16:33.520 seem for nedick out there, even when he was under 0:16:33.560 --> 0:16:37.040 the rest, even when the pocket was collapsing around him, 0:16:37.280 --> 0:16:40.520 he didn't seem as if he was panicking. And he 0:16:40.600 --> 0:16:43.400 was able to find some of those escape routes and 0:16:43.640 --> 0:16:47.040 in extend some plays and pick up the first down. 0:16:47.080 --> 0:16:49.920 And we obviously know his first touchdown pass of his 0:16:50.120 --> 0:16:53.440 career was a nice job by him stepping up into 0:16:53.440 --> 0:16:57.160 the pocket, escaping to the right, using that athleticism, but 0:16:57.320 --> 0:17:01.920 more importantly, keeping his eyes down. It's fourth and eighteen. 0:17:02.320 --> 0:17:04.320 He knows it doesn't make any sense for him to 0:17:04.400 --> 0:17:07.800 take off. So there is the intelligence that he has 0:17:07.840 --> 0:17:10.800 at the position to understand to keep his eyes down 0:17:10.880 --> 0:17:13.840 the field and he's able to find Greg Ward going 0:17:13.880 --> 0:17:16.359 through that zone and he's able to drop a dime 0:17:16.400 --> 0:17:19.159 on him for a touchdown. You gotta like what you 0:17:19.200 --> 0:17:23.480 saw from Jalen Hurts, and this first extended action as 0:17:23.520 --> 0:17:26.879 a pro football player a lot to learn from. And 0:17:26.960 --> 0:17:30.160 I guarantee that the Eagles coaching staff they feel good 0:17:30.440 --> 0:17:32.960 because now they have something that they have what we 0:17:33.000 --> 0:17:37.359 call teaching tape. There's enough, there's enough plays there that 0:17:37.520 --> 0:17:41.080 now they can get a real gauge or a somewhat 0:17:41.119 --> 0:17:43.639 better gauge of some of the things he can do 0:17:43.720 --> 0:17:45.760 and some of the things that he can't do. But 0:17:45.840 --> 0:17:48.879 you also know he also had to deal with what 0:17:49.040 --> 0:17:52.080 Carson Wentz has been dealing with for twelve weeks, which 0:17:52.200 --> 0:17:55.280 is the protection isn't gonna hold up, and you better 0:17:55.320 --> 0:17:57.760 be able to make some plays with your legs. He 0:17:57.920 --> 0:18:01.240 was sacked three times and just some quarter, just a 0:18:01.280 --> 0:18:03.719 little bit over a quarter. He was sacked three times 0:18:03.720 --> 0:18:06.800 in this game, went sacked four times. But I still 0:18:06.840 --> 0:18:09.720 like what I saw from Jalen Hurts out there tonight. Yeah, 0:18:09.720 --> 0:18:12.280 I think that's a great point about the poise, and 0:18:12.920 --> 0:18:15.320 what impressed me most about him was that touchdown pass 0:18:15.359 --> 0:18:18.520 on fourth and eighteen, especially after you get the OPI 0:18:18.720 --> 0:18:21.080 on all Shan Jeffrey there to be able to just 0:18:21.400 --> 0:18:24.000 erase that from your the short term memory. Shake it off. 0:18:24.119 --> 0:18:28.639 Fourth and eighteen, just escaping the pressure, super poise, super 0:18:28.640 --> 0:18:31.199 calm touchdown pass to Greg Ward. I thought that that 0:18:31.359 --> 0:18:34.959 calmness from a rookie quarterback in his you know, in 0:18:35.000 --> 0:18:38.040 his rookie year, big time at lambeau Field against the 0:18:38.040 --> 0:18:40.960 Green Bay Packers, to get your first passing touchdown. I 0:18:41.320 --> 0:18:44.440 really liked the poise and the column, especially again after 0:18:44.480 --> 0:18:48.200 that penalty that was called the OPI just to play 0:18:48.240 --> 0:18:51.240 before that, Fran, what did you think about hurts his performance? 0:18:51.520 --> 0:18:53.119 And I know you're gonna look at the tape, but 0:18:53.119 --> 0:18:54.480 what are some of the things that stood out to 0:18:54.480 --> 0:18:56.439 you so far? Yeah, and a lot of things that 0:18:56.480 --> 0:18:57.960 I hit on right. And we saw some good, we 0:18:57.960 --> 0:18:59.680 saw some bad, We saw some sacks, We saw the 0:18:59.720 --> 0:19:02.000 inner reception. We saw him kind of run around and 0:19:02.040 --> 0:19:04.159 be able to make plays that can work for you, 0:19:04.200 --> 0:19:06.280 as we've seen with Carson Wentz, that can work for you. 0:19:06.359 --> 0:19:08.560 Or that can work against you at times. He was 0:19:08.600 --> 0:19:10.480 able to move the chains a number of times, both 0:19:10.600 --> 0:19:12.919 with his arm and with his legs, which is certainly 0:19:12.920 --> 0:19:16.639 a positive. You'd like the unflappable mentality with him, and 0:19:16.800 --> 0:19:18.720 you know that he was not hurt by what was 0:19:18.720 --> 0:19:21.920 happening around him from the penalties and things of that nature. 0:19:21.960 --> 0:19:24.080 That certainly is a good sign. It's gonna be a 0:19:24.080 --> 0:19:26.000 plenty that they're gonna be able to evaluate. It's it's 0:19:26.040 --> 0:19:28.040 good to be able to see practice film and get 0:19:28.080 --> 0:19:30.440 those kind of reps. But now they've got some meaningful 0:19:30.480 --> 0:19:33.399 snaps here in game action of him playing quarterback that 0:19:33.640 --> 0:19:35.479 they can go back and sit with him and go 0:19:35.520 --> 0:19:37.600