WEBVTT - 082623 Dr. Tekola discusses Climate Change and Sustainability (Part 2)

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<v Speaker 1>If you just tuning in to Civic Cipher, I am

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<v Speaker 1>get back to rockin' in the free world for you today.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm jorin by the one and only doctor Doctor Tacolo,

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<v Speaker 1>a sustainability scientist who has chosen to sit in with

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<v Speaker 1>us to warn us to take decisive action to promote

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<v Speaker 1>sustainability and to combat climate change. And so she and

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<v Speaker 1>I are going to be having some more conversations, particularly

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<v Speaker 1>with respect to kind of what's at stake and really

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<v Speaker 1>what we can do about that. So if this is

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<v Speaker 1>something that interests you, please stick around. If this is

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<v Speaker 1>something that doesn't interest you, please get out of the way,

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<v Speaker 1>because it seems like we've got a whole lot of

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<v Speaker 1>work to do. But first and foremost, we are going

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<v Speaker 1>to discuss be A be A becoming a better Ally Baba.

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<v Speaker 1>be reading from CNN, But first I gotta ask you

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<v Speaker 1>a question. Did you know that human and pet hair

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<v Speaker 1>can be used to clean up oil spills? I know

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<v Speaker 1>that this isn't a decidedly black thing, but since this

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<v Speaker 1>is what we're talking about and there's ways to help

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<v Speaker 1>black people, our hair curls up and we can definitely

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<v Speaker 1>donate here, but everybody can donate. Basically, a hairstylist got

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<v Speaker 1>the idea of using hair to soak up oil after

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<v Speaker 1>seeing how oil stuck to the fur of wildlife, and

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<v Speaker 1>turns out it works all right, I read from CNN.

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<v Speaker 1>In nineteen eighty nine, Alabama based hairstylist Philip McRory had

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<v Speaker 1>designed a prototype device used to that used hair to

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<v Speaker 1>soak up oil, which was tested by NASA and bound

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<v Speaker 1>to function well. Together, San Francisco based nonprofit Matter of

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<v Speaker 1>Trust and McRory developed booms and mats made from human

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<v Speaker 1>and animal hair. Every Day, salons, pet groomers and individuals

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<v Speaker 1>send hair cuttings to Matter of Trusts San Francisco warehouse.

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<v Speaker 1>The packages are checked for contaminants such as debris, dirt,

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<v Speaker 1>or lice. Then the hair is separated, spread over a

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<v Speaker 1>frame and run through a custom built belting machine to

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<v Speaker 1>make the mats used to soak up the oil spills.

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<v Speaker 1>It takes five hundred grams of hair to create a

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<v Speaker 1>two foot square, one inch thick mat which can collect

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<v Speaker 1>up to one point five gallons.

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<v Speaker 2>And if you.

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<v Speaker 1>Want to learn more about this, you can visit matter

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<v Speaker 1>of Trust dot org. The fact of the matter is

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<v Speaker 1>that there's a lot of things that we're going to

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<v Speaker 1>need to do to make a lot of changes. As

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<v Speaker 1>we mentioned earlier in the show, a lot of times

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<v Speaker 1>black and brown communities bear the brunt of the worst

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<v Speaker 1>of climate change and environmental disasters, et cetera. And this

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<v Speaker 1>is a small thing that you can do to help out.

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<v Speaker 1>Once again, a matter of Trust dot org. Moving on, now,

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<v Speaker 1>let's talk about sustainability, doctor Tacola. Now, when we were

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<v Speaker 1>talking before the show, you know, you said you sent

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<v Speaker 1>me a text and you says, hey, we.

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<v Speaker 2>Need to really get the word out about all these.

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<v Speaker 1>Things that are going on in the country, these uh,

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<v Speaker 1>these storms and fires and so forth. And you also

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<v Speaker 1>texted me something that stood out. You said, it's gotten

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<v Speaker 1>really bad and there's a lot at steak.

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<v Speaker 2>So let's talk about what said Steak.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh, I'd say, what's that steak is our future and

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<v Speaker 3>it's the ability to live on this planet. And so

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<v Speaker 3>what we're seeing is how it gets What will change

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<v Speaker 3>is like agriculture zone. So for example, the United States,

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<v Speaker 3>we have the bread basket. If the bread basket moves

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<v Speaker 3>up to Canada because of the heat and the temperature,

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<v Speaker 3>that increased temperature, then then we know, no longer have

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<v Speaker 3>We're no longer a wheat exporter, We're no longer creates

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<v Speaker 3>huge national security, huge economic implications. But more importantly, I

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<v Speaker 3>would say, you know, like the risings of the tides,

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<v Speaker 3>which you know, the ocean will continue to rise as

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<v Speaker 3>the glaciers continue to melt, which means that the coasts

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<v Speaker 3>will not be safe. Florida's underwater parts of California or

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<v Speaker 3>underwater and New York. And when we're looking at this,

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<v Speaker 3>these are the most populated places in the world is

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<v Speaker 3>the coast. And so if the coast go underwater, we're

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<v Speaker 3>talking about mass evacuation mass and you know who gets

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<v Speaker 3>left behind, poor people, and that oftentimes means our communities,

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<v Speaker 3>and so not not to mention you know, like how

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<v Speaker 3>are we going to grow food? Where are we going

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<v Speaker 3>to get water? Here in Arizona, Arizona, Nevada, and southwest California.

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<v Speaker 3>So we all get water. Specifically Vegas, Phoenix and La

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<v Speaker 3>get a huge component. And Phoenix is forty percent of

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<v Speaker 3>our water from Lake Mead, which is the water from

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<v Speaker 3>the Colorada River behind Hoover Dam. Lake Mead is we're

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<v Speaker 3>about to run out. I was just there a few

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<v Speaker 3>weeks ago, and I saw the impact. And ye know,

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<v Speaker 3>I was just there ten years ago, and to look

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<v Speaker 3>at the difference in ten years, you shouldn't be able

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<v Speaker 3>to see that.

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<v Speaker 2>For folks that haven't been up there, because I was

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<v Speaker 2>just up there recently myself, and you can see the

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<v Speaker 2>water line. You can see how much water is gone.

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<v Speaker 2>And as someone who's lived here and gone to Vegas

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<v Speaker 2>since I was let's call it the past twenty years,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm used to seeing that water line at or approximately

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<v Speaker 2>at the normal level, and now it's so far gone

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<v Speaker 2>it's really scary. So for folks who don't make it

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<v Speaker 2>to the side of the country, you know, it's important

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<v Speaker 2>for you to know that this is not an exaggeration. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>not making this up.

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<v Speaker 3>Phoenix, La, Las Vegas. Can you imagine if these cities

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<v Speaker 3>ran out of water and we're talking about. This is

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<v Speaker 3>our reality in the next five to ten years if

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<v Speaker 3>we do nothing, and in fact, it's actually going to

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<v Speaker 3>be sooner. If by twenty twenty five we don't do something,

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<v Speaker 3>that means will lock in and basically by twenty thirty

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<v Speaker 3>there will be past the point of return. And that's

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<v Speaker 3>the thing about climate change, and that's actually when you

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<v Speaker 3>look at human psychology, we tend to procrastinate about things

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<v Speaker 3>that aren't directly in front of our face. So you know,

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<v Speaker 3>if it's a slow boiling like they say in a

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<v Speaker 3>frog with frogs, right, you put a frog in a

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<v Speaker 3>boiling pot, they're gonna jump out, but you turn up

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<v Speaker 3>the heat slowly and you can willingly cook them. And

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<v Speaker 3>that's literally what's happening to us in this world. So

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<v Speaker 3>one of the things is that the IPCC, which is

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<v Speaker 3>the International Panel on Climate Change. These are the best

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<v Speaker 3>scientists from around the world that put out reports every year,

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<v Speaker 3>and they have in twenty nineteen they said that twenty

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<v Speaker 3>thirty is our tipping point and if we do not

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<v Speaker 3>peak carbon emissions by twenty thirty, that will be the

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<v Speaker 3>point of no return. So we only have seven years

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<v Speaker 3>left really to evert the most uh evert this crisis

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<v Speaker 3>as we know it, and if we don't by twenty thirty,

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<v Speaker 3>then we really have to start looking at how do

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<v Speaker 3>we survive the apocalypse. But we're already starting to feel that,

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<v Speaker 3>like I said, like the Southwest water future is is

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<v Speaker 3>not guaranteed. And what we're seeing is that instead of

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<v Speaker 3>you know, you would think like meat drying up would

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<v Speaker 3>be enough, if you know, the Southwest running out of

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<v Speaker 3>water would be enough for behavioral change, and what we're

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<v Speaker 3>seeing is not that. For example, we're in Tier two

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<v Speaker 3>shortage of water, which is the federal government is telling

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<v Speaker 3>the Southwest they have to come up with plans to

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<v Speaker 3>reduce their water and recently when they had until like

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<v Speaker 3>this spring to come up with plans, and Nevada and

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<v Speaker 3>Arizona we're teamed up and we're like, we have a plan,

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<v Speaker 3>tell California to cut all the water. California was like wait, wait, wait,

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<v Speaker 3>hold up, you know, like that's not fair. So we're

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<v Speaker 3>not actually being solution oriented, We're not being conducive. You know.

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<v Speaker 3>We have people like Christian Cinema of that be like

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<v Speaker 3>I don't like that California gets more water than Arizona

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<v Speaker 3>and it's like this isn't that's beside the point. Okay, well,

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<v Speaker 3>let's not debate who gets more. Let's actually talk about

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<v Speaker 3>how do we change our behavior so that we avert

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<v Speaker 3>this crisis of the Southwest, you know, having to evacuate

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<v Speaker 3>right now.

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<v Speaker 2>There's something that there's two things that you said.

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<v Speaker 1>And I know we're kind of focused a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>on the south West right now, but I think that

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<v Speaker 1>that kind of shows that mentality that you described, that

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<v Speaker 1>people are not really taking it seriously. So if you

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<v Speaker 1>don't live in the Southwest, bear with us for a minute.

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<v Speaker 1>You mentioned the bread basket and how there are fiscal

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<v Speaker 1>implications and potential food and securities if you know, we

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<v Speaker 1>don't combat this issue right now right so now we're

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<v Speaker 1>talking about people's money, and money typically makes people that

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<v Speaker 1>makes their ears proc up right, or if we're talking

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<v Speaker 1>about food security, you know, those are things that people

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<v Speaker 1>might worry about because it doesn't matter how much money

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<v Speaker 1>you have. If you can't eat you can't eat them dollars,

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<v Speaker 1>trust me. Yeah, So I want us to hold that

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<v Speaker 1>in one part of our minds. The other part of

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<v Speaker 1>our minds, I want us to imagine you don't really

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<v Speaker 1>have to imagine because it's a real thing. But in

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<v Speaker 1>the same state you mentioned Kirsten Cinema, in the state

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<v Speaker 1>of Arizona, where there is a water shortage and a

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<v Speaker 1>water crisis, let's be honest, let's call it what it is,

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<v Speaker 1>they're actively building a water park. You're read about this, right, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So you can see how the intersection of corporate interests

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<v Speaker 1>and sustainability that the alarming kind of intersection typically falls

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<v Speaker 1>on deaf ears when it comes to politics, because politicians

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<v Speaker 1>require money to remain in office, and then the money

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<v Speaker 1>comes with favors and strings attached and so forth, and

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<v Speaker 1>then we the people end up paying the price for it.

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<v Speaker 1>And again we've talked a bit about poor people, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>bearing the brunt of this, but the fact of the

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<v Speaker 1>matter is that there's a lot of people that live

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<v Speaker 1>in the Southwest, in Vegas, in southern California, and in Arizona.

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<v Speaker 1>And for a second, let me just mention this for

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<v Speaker 1>people that think that just because California is on the ocean,

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<v Speaker 1>that they're going to be fine, it doesn't work that way.

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<v Speaker 2>We need fresh water, that we're we're not salt water creatures.

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<v Speaker 1>But anyway, I just wanted to make sure that I

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<v Speaker 1>interjected that, because people really need to understand the mentality

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<v Speaker 1>of our elected officials so that we know how to

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<v Speaker 1>hold them responsible for our lives, in the future, of

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<v Speaker 1>our planet, in the future for our babies. It's funny,

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<v Speaker 1>before the show, you were, you know, you saw my son,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, in the studio, and you know that I

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<v Speaker 1>definitely want a world for him to grow up in

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<v Speaker 1>and have his own children, and so I'd imagine that

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<v Speaker 1>most people feel the same way.

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<v Speaker 3>So yeah, definitely, And I think when you talk about

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<v Speaker 3>the politician's mentality, it's just ego and greed, and it's

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<v Speaker 3>ego to the point of, you know, h it can

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<v Speaker 3>really cause us to for us all to die because

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<v Speaker 3>these people thought they were they could put a water park,

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<v Speaker 3>add a Tier two shortage. It's just at this point

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<v Speaker 3>it's like, how can you be so arrogant? But as

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<v Speaker 3>you could see, it's also and this is part of

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<v Speaker 3>my research and why I connected decolonization and climate change,

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<v Speaker 3>because it's this type of colonial thinking of this man

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<v Speaker 3>over nature, of this domination over nature, just like dominating

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<v Speaker 3>over people of color, and it's this belief that oh,

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<v Speaker 3>we can just solve it, And so what we hear

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<v Speaker 3>from a lot of the Republican legislature, from a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of people is like, oh, we got the ocean, we

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<v Speaker 3>can just desalinize. Well, the problem with desalinization is it's

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<v Speaker 3>credibly expensive. Right now, we're paying sense per gallon. When

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<v Speaker 3>you look at desalinization, we're going to be spending dollars

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<v Speaker 3>per gallon. And some people, the rich might be able

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<v Speaker 3>to afford that, but what happens to people who can

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<v Speaker 3>no longer afford water? Because that was the plan desalinization,

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<v Speaker 3>not to mention that a lot of these plants break.

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<v Speaker 3>Not to mention in states like Arizona, we don't have

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<v Speaker 3>a coast, and they're talking about we're just gonna make

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<v Speaker 3>a deal with Mexico, Like we don't have the greatest

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<v Speaker 3>relationship with Mexico. Have you actually talked to them. You

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<v Speaker 3>can't bank our future on these, you know, political negotiations

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<v Speaker 3>that haven't even been started. So it is scary. But

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<v Speaker 3>I also want to talk about the other side. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>one of the things that I've heard criticism of climate

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<v Speaker 3>activism is that, you know, they say Martin Luther King

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<v Speaker 3>had a dream, but climate activists only described the nightmare,

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<v Speaker 3>the nightmare of the future, right, and so we also

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<v Speaker 3>have to look at the bright side, the possibility of opportunity.

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<v Speaker 3>Not only Klein has a book called this Changes Everything,

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<v Speaker 3>and really climate change does change everything. But instead of

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<v Speaker 3>looking at it like, oh, what are we going to do?

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<v Speaker 3>This is so terrible, we can look at an opportunity.

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<v Speaker 3>This is an opportunity. Address existing inequities, address redlining, address

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<v Speaker 3>all of these issues our communities already had if we

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<v Speaker 3>really look at the opportunity. And so there's two important

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<v Speaker 3>bills that actually passed, the Inflation Reduction Act and the

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<v Speaker 3>Jobs and Infrastructure Bill. Both of these unlocked billions of

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<v Speaker 3>dollars that go into one green jobs, which on average,

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<v Speaker 3>green jobs pay more than oil jobs. They're healthier, they

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<v Speaker 3>don't have as much toxic exposure, and then they also

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<v Speaker 3>oftentimes are union jobs that don't require a college degree.

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<v Speaker 3>And so these are this can actually have a material

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<v Speaker 3>benefit to our communities. And when you look at oil

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<v Speaker 3>versus renewable energy, since we have to build the infrastructure

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<v Speaker 3>renewable energy that make three to four jobs per every

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<v Speaker 3>one job in the oil industry. So when we talk

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<v Speaker 3>about the jobs versus environment, false dichotomy. Well, if we

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<v Speaker 3>want to play that game, renewable energy creates more jobs.

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<v Speaker 3>And so with these two bills, they really unlock all

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<v Speaker 3>sorts of possibilities. Now, in particular, another important thing is

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<v Speaker 3>Biden had passed what's called Justice forty. It's an executive

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<v Speaker 3>order which says that forty percent of these environmental and

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<v Speaker 3>similar social bills have to forty percent of that funding

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<v Speaker 3>has to go to communities of color. And so when

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<v Speaker 3>we look at the Inflation Reduction Act, that's three hundred

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<v Speaker 3>and seventy billion dollars, This is bigger than the New Deal,

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<v Speaker 3>and forty percent of that has to go to our communities.

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<v Speaker 3>So when we look at the decades of disinvestment, the

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<v Speaker 3>Inflation Reduction Act, if we seize the opportunity, if we

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<v Speaker 3>hold government accountable, if we get our cities to apply

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<v Speaker 3>for this funding, if we get our communities to apply

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<v Speaker 3>for this funding, we could really transform our cities, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>and it will be an opportunity to change these historical inequities.

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<v Speaker 3>And so I also think that we should talk about

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<v Speaker 3>the possibilities if we address if we have what they

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<v Speaker 3>call it just transition, where we make sure no one's

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<v Speaker 3>left behind, it can actually put communities of color on

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<v Speaker 3>a better outlook in the future.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, Okay, Now I want to circle back to that

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<v Speaker 1>in just a second, because I feel like you can

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<v Speaker 1>give us some pretty profound advice in terms of what

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<v Speaker 1>we individually can do. You have studied, you've seen it all,

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<v Speaker 1>you know it all most folks are. They wake up,

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<v Speaker 1>they go to work, they get their kids from school,

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<v Speaker 1>they go home, and like you said, it's such a

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<v Speaker 1>far away problem for most people. But because you've seen it,

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<v Speaker 1>and because you know what can be done and what

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<v Speaker 1>happens if we don't, I'd love to get your advice

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<v Speaker 1>for the every man and every woman or every person.

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<v Speaker 1>I should say that, like what they what we can

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<v Speaker 1>do in our in our immediate lives, but beyond recycling

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<v Speaker 1>and you know whatever. So first, before we get there,

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<v Speaker 1>I do want to share something that I got from Vox. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so box dot com record heat normal, it's hot, hot hot,

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<v Speaker 1>all right. That's from Laura Ingram on our Fox News show.

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<v Speaker 1>After all, we're in the middle of a season called summer. Now.

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<v Speaker 1>The thing is, she was being facetious, you know, just

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<v Speaker 1>she was like, oh, everybody's complained about it's hot at summer, right,

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<v Speaker 1>she's not understanding or she's trying to make light of

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<v Speaker 1>the fact that it is a record breaking July, the

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<v Speaker 1>hottest July on record. Anyway, The fact checks suggest that

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<v Speaker 1>more than three thousand temperature records were shattered in the

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<v Speaker 1>US for the month of July alone, something scientists say

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<v Speaker 1>would be virtually impossible without human caused climate.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, let's go to forest fires. Nature naturally burns itself

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<v Speaker 2>off every eleven years with natural disaster forest fires. This

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<v Speaker 2>comes from Senator Mark Wayne Mullen, who's a Republican from Oklahoma.

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<v Speaker 2>This is a forest fire, all right, Now, let's fact

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<v Speaker 2>check him. It says the severity of wildfires, such as

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<v Speaker 2>the historic blazes in Canada this year, are fueled by

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<v Speaker 2>complex conditions including forest management and drought primed by climate change.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, all right, so let's go to these stronger hurricanes.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, just a part of life. This is something

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<v Speaker 1>that is a fact of life in the Sunshine State.

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<v Speaker 1>This comes from Florida Governor Ron DeSantis. He said this

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<v Speaker 1>in a Fox News interview. He goes on to say,

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<v Speaker 1>I've always rejected the politicization.

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<v Speaker 2>Is I said that right politicization. That's what it says

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<v Speaker 2>of the weather.

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<v Speaker 1>But the fact check suggests that climate change drives the

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<v Speaker 1>warming of ocean waters, which provide fuel for more devastating

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<v Speaker 1>hurricanes and typhoons. All right, so let me go on

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<v Speaker 1>to the next one. Here, more Americans are impacted by

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<v Speaker 1>climate change. Sixty two percent of all voters recognized climate

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<v Speaker 1>change is caused by human activity, according to a Gallop

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<v Speaker 1>pole from this spring.

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<v Speaker 2>Yet, climate change.

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<v Speaker 1>Denial is not only alive and well in the GOP,

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<v Speaker 1>it's become a lot more insidious and polarizing, said John Cook,

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<v Speaker 1>a University of Melbourne researcher who has tracked the path

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<v Speaker 1>of climate disinformation online using artificial intelligence. The GOP's only

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<v Speaker 1>climate policy is actually bad for the environment. When Representative

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<v Speaker 1>Bruce Westerman, who was a Republican from Arkansas, first proposed

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<v Speaker 1>the Trillion Trees Act in twenty twenty, environmentalists said the

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<v Speaker 1>bill would significantly increase logging across America's federal forests, convert

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<v Speaker 1>millions of acres into industrial treat plantations, increase global carbon emissions,

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<v Speaker 1>increased wildfire risk, and harm wildlife and watersheds. The idea

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<v Speaker 1>was a wolf in sheep's clothing effectively giving loggers more

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<v Speaker 1>allowances as long as they planted seedlings, which are decades

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<v Speaker 1>away from delivering climate burning. But the GOP has come

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<v Speaker 1>to champion this idea as their climate plan. So it's

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<v Speaker 1>important to know that there are people who may even

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<v Speaker 1>pretend to care about this issue, and they may put

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<v Speaker 1>something together that sounds good. Trillion trees, if that's what

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<v Speaker 1>you name it. It sounds great, A trillion more trees. Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>we're good, right, But when you peel back a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of layers, you know, as I mentioned, it's really just

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<v Speaker 1>expanding logging. And they do want to plant more trees,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's just not realistic because the benefit of those trees.

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<v Speaker 1>We're going to sink a lot further before we get

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<v Speaker 1>the benefits of those and right now we need to

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<v Speaker 1>be climbing out of the ditch. We sink any further

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<v Speaker 1>that we may hit that point of no return that

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<v Speaker 1>you mentioned. So we got a couple of minutes left.

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<v Speaker 1>I do want to ask you, what again, what is

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<v Speaker 1>it that sort of the every person can do with

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<v Speaker 1>the information that we've discussed on today's show.

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<v Speaker 3>So I'm not going to talk about individual actions because Frankly,

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<v Speaker 3>I think we're beyond that. For me, the individual actions

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<v Speaker 3>I take is more of part of my personal ethic

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<v Speaker 3>and helps me be conscious of the environment that I'm in.

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<v Speaker 3>But really, when we look at we need, we need

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<v Speaker 3>political action, and so when we think about voting, when

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<v Speaker 3>we think about talking to our legislature, we need to

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<v Speaker 3>make climate the number one issue. We need to make

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<v Speaker 3>sure that our politicians realize that if they're going to

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<v Speaker 3>be an ostrich with their head in the sand, if

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<v Speaker 3>they're going to be the emperor has no clothes and

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<v Speaker 3>talk about like, oh, climate change doesn't exist. Meanwhile, communities

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<v Speaker 3>in Alaska are already having to be relocated because they're melting,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, So you can't really deny that, and if

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<v Speaker 3>you do again, like you have to, you can't be

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<v Speaker 3>seen as a political politically feasible. And so we have

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<v Speaker 3>to make that reality right. We need to strengthen our

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<v Speaker 3>democracy by ensuring that communities, that politicians know that this

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<v Speaker 3>is one of our core issues. And then you know,

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<v Speaker 3>there's other things that you can do in terms of

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<v Speaker 3>like ensuring you know, like ensuring that we hold corporations accountable,

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<v Speaker 3>and there's a lot of different ways that we can

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<v Speaker 3>do that. There's a lot of different organizations, whether like

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<v Speaker 3>the Sunrise Movement or other groups like Extinction Rebellion. We

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<v Speaker 3>really need to hold these corporations accountable. And actually, on

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<v Speaker 3>September seventeenth, which is during Climate Week in New York,

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<v Speaker 3>there's gonna be a huge mass protest. I'll be there.

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<v Speaker 3>If you're in New York. You should. You should be

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<v Speaker 3>there if you're in the area. And we're really trying

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<v Speaker 3>to again hold our politicians responsible. Let corporations know no more.

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<v Speaker 3>But it's really important for us to be aware. So

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<v Speaker 3>increase our awareness and then also make sure that we're

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<v Speaker 3>holding our governing and corporations accountable.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, that is sound advice. I appreciate you coming to

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<v Speaker 1>share that with us. Obviously, this is this is the

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<v Speaker 1>most important issue. It doesn't matter who's black and who's

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<v Speaker 1>white and whatever, if there's no planet and we can't

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<v Speaker 1>survive on it, so you know, vote accordingly. I like

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<v Speaker 1>that advice. If you feel so inclined, please you know,

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<v Speaker 1>share any ways that people can connect with you, virtually

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<v Speaker 1>social media anything like that, or even sort of websites

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<v Speaker 1>that people and go do to get some more information.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, for sure. So a few different ways. If you

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<v Speaker 3>are if you are to connect with me personally, my

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<v Speaker 3>instagram is doctor Sara Tacola. If you're interested in I

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<v Speaker 3>am an environmental justice consultant. My company is at DSLM Consulting,

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<v Speaker 3>so I help organizations improve their environmental justice analysis. And

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<v Speaker 3>then finally, I think, just like I said, make sure

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<v Speaker 3>that you pay attention and get involved in what's happening

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<v Speaker 3>in your neighborhood.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, and the until next week, y'all. Peace,