WEBVTT - Boy Was That A Suck Fest

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<v Speaker 1>Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George

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<v Speaker 1>Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Caddy arm Strong

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<v Speaker 1>and and he Armstrong and.

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<v Speaker 2>Brad Studio See see Senior A dimly lit room deep

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<v Speaker 2>with from the fowls of the Armstrong and Getty Communications

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<v Speaker 2>Compound to kick off a brand new week, and today

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<v Speaker 2>we're under the tutelage of our general manager, Voladimir z

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<v Speaker 2>A Lensco.

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<v Speaker 1>No, what happened? Good lord? The spicy Times gets spicier?

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<v Speaker 1>How y'all doing new week, new month? Oh my gosh,

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<v Speaker 1>pregnant with possibility. It's very exciting. I'm a little hungover

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<v Speaker 1>from a big Oscar party. What a wing ding that was? Wow?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I had like four different costumes at ordering the night,

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<v Speaker 2>so that was a little stressful and I probably drank

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<v Speaker 2>too much Shardenay and got out a hand. Oscar parties

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<v Speaker 2>used to be a thing. I doubt they are for

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<v Speaker 2>very many people anymore. Seems so incredibly lame. I would

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<v Speaker 2>like to see a documentary studying people who still have

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<v Speaker 2>Oscar parties. Right And by the way, I was lifestyles,

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<v Speaker 2>I believe I was actually thinking. Since we have started

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<v Speaker 2>on a number of new stations recently that are new

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<v Speaker 2>to our product and everything like that brief.

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<v Speaker 1>Description of what we are.

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<v Speaker 2>We are a dramedy about sex workers, if that helps

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<v Speaker 2>exactly explain. One of the most interesting things that's ever

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<v Speaker 2>happened happened like five minutes before our show ended on Friday,

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<v Speaker 2>So that was unfortunate that it couldn't have happened like

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<v Speaker 2>an hour earlier or something like that, so we wouldn't

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<v Speaker 2>miss it for two and a half days. And of course,

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<v Speaker 2>being whatever that was that occurred in the Oval office,

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<v Speaker 2>one of the strangest things anybody's ever seen, right, And

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<v Speaker 2>the more I learned about what went into it in

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<v Speaker 2>the context, the more interesting it becomes. It interrupts some

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<v Speaker 2>of the simplistic shouting at each other narratives, but.

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<v Speaker 1>I wish to enjoy it.

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<v Speaker 2>There was a way to have any conversation ever, that

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't run through the filter of AREU for Trump or

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<v Speaker 2>against him?

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<v Speaker 1>Which dominates every conversation.

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<v Speaker 2>Unfortunately, it makes it very difficult to figure out what

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<v Speaker 2>people think well, and for a significant part of America,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm not sure how significant. It's hard to say,

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<v Speaker 2>because social media is such a it's a distorting lens.

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<v Speaker 1>It is a lens. It shows you something.

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<v Speaker 2>But it it distorts the picture in a way that

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<v Speaker 2>it's difficult to quantify. But even more than it becoming

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<v Speaker 2>a just a simple question of whether you like Trump

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<v Speaker 2>or not, it seems like people who hate Trump, for instance,

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<v Speaker 2>can argue A and hate B on Monday, and if

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<v Speaker 2>Trump changes his mind, right, they love B and hate

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<v Speaker 2>A on Tuesday.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, That's what I meant. Sides, that's very difficult.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we have mentioned a couple of times. Mark Alpern

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<v Speaker 2>wrote a paragraph I don't know how many weeks ago

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<v Speaker 2>it was now where he said, the all the talk

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<v Speaker 2>in Washington, d C. Is this grand deal that they're

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<v Speaker 2>trying to put together that includes China, Russia, Greenland, Thailand, Ukraine,

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<v Speaker 2>everything coming together in one grand bargain. Aprin said, it's

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<v Speaker 2>all the talk in DC. You can't go anywhere with

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<v Speaker 2>any audio may talk about whish. I find interesting given

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<v Speaker 2>the fact that it hasn't really surfaced anywhere except for

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<v Speaker 2>today in the Wall Street Journal, the editorial board has

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<v Speaker 2>Trump's old World Order? Does he want deals with Russia

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<v Speaker 2>and China to carve up the planet. He should tell

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<v Speaker 2>Americans with the idea that if this is part of

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<v Speaker 2>a grand strategy, maybe we should all be have an

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<v Speaker 2>idea of what's being discussed. Right, right, It's not the

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<v Speaker 2>sort of thing you spring on the world as a surprise.

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<v Speaker 1>Because maybe.

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<v Speaker 2>How belligerent the Trump administration is toward Ukraine would make

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<v Speaker 2>more sense if you were seeing it as part of

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<v Speaker 2>a deal that includes Taiwan, Greenland, China and a whole

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<v Speaker 2>bunch of other things. Correct, correct, Well, here's an indication

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<v Speaker 2>of whether that might hold water. The Russian Vladimir Putin's

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<v Speaker 2>spokesholes set a couple of really interesting things over the weekend. Interesting, troubling, horrifying,

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<v Speaker 2>depending on your perspective. Kremlin spokesman Dmitri Peskov said, quote,

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<v Speaker 2>the new administration is rapidly changing all foreign policy configurations.

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<v Speaker 2>This largely coincides with our vision. Coincides, I'm sorry. So

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<v Speaker 2>that's interesting to have the Kremlin spokesperson say that the

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<v Speaker 2>Trump policies coincide with our vision, which is crazy. But

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<v Speaker 2>the other thing they said to your point is, and

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<v Speaker 2>this is Russian State TV, now everything is being decided

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<v Speaker 2>inside a big triangle Russia, China, in the US. Within

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<v Speaker 2>this the new construction of the world will come to fruition.

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<v Speaker 2>The EU is a united political force no longer exists.

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<v Speaker 2>So they're talking about the big three way divide up

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<v Speaker 2>of the globe into spheres of influence. Wow, when do

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<v Speaker 2>we all get to find out about this? When are

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<v Speaker 2>people going to tell us how this is going, what

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<v Speaker 2>this is going to be, and then what's the reaction

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<v Speaker 2>to it as it is either announced or just becomes

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<v Speaker 2>more clear bit by bit right.

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<v Speaker 1>Having read.

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<v Speaker 2>Fairly famous book Paris nineteen nineteen from the end of

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<v Speaker 2>World War One, when the major powers, many of the

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<v Speaker 2>same powers got together and carved up the world, which

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<v Speaker 2>has caused many problems.

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<v Speaker 1>That wasn't really discussed with the world either.

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<v Speaker 2>A bunch of important diplomats got together in a room

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<v Speaker 2>and carved up the world and came out and said, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>here's the way it's going to be for the next.

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<v Speaker 1>Century and a half. Here's your new borders.

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<v Speaker 2>Enjoy them, Enjoy them. And so maybe that's what's going

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<v Speaker 2>to happen here.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I mean this, I realize this all

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<v Speaker 1>sounds very.

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<v Speaker 2>Lofty or or like it's from Marvel Universe or something

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<v Speaker 2>like that. I got to talk about I went to

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<v Speaker 2>the new Captain America. Boy's that a suck fest? Oh?

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<v Speaker 1>No, God was honorable? Wow? Some Captain America great again? Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll make Marvel grade again.

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<v Speaker 2>Just to know they've got they've gone off the rails,

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<v Speaker 2>as many people have pointed out.

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<v Speaker 1>But I was like, I say, oh, just like some there's.

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<v Speaker 2>Some overarching sort of players involved in the structuring the

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<v Speaker 2>world that the rest of the people don't know. I

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<v Speaker 2>feel like that's is that what's going on now? I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know, but but my point being, maybe what the

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<v Speaker 2>the thing with uh, the way Trump's handling Putin and

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<v Speaker 2>everything like that makes sense in that structure.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I guess we'll find out someday. And again, what's.

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<v Speaker 2>The reaction to that going to be among congressional leaders,

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<v Speaker 2>your your cabinet people, your Marco's Rubio for instance, Because

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<v Speaker 2>I remember from the first Trump term and this one's different. Obviously,

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<v Speaker 2>it's been much discussed that he's figured out who he

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<v Speaker 2>really wants around him, as opposed to just take the

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<v Speaker 2>other people's recommendation for what you know, wise and old

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<v Speaker 2>Washington hand he should hire now it's his people. But

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<v Speaker 2>I remember that folks were with him, and they were

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<v Speaker 2>kind of with him, and then he fired him because

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<v Speaker 2>obviously behind the scenes they were telling him, look, this

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<v Speaker 2>can't happen.

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<v Speaker 1>The list is long, John Bolton and go from there.

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<v Speaker 2>I just wonder how long a Marco Rubio, for instance,

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<v Speaker 2>will hang with this new vision.

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<v Speaker 1>How one he likes it, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>He sure seemed all in yesterday on whichever talk show

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<v Speaker 2>I saw him on.

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<v Speaker 1>He seemed all in.

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<v Speaker 2>He mean, he seemed as a forceful a mouthpiece for

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<v Speaker 2>Trump and Vance's view as you could possibly get. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>his old National Security advisor H. R. McMaster, who he

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<v Speaker 2>did get rid of in the way that you just described,

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<v Speaker 2>was on one of the talk shows yesterday, and he's

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<v Speaker 2>not digging what's going on at all.

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<v Speaker 1>I think.

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<v Speaker 2>So it was a real there's no way that was

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<v Speaker 2>a good thing that happened on Friday. Isn't And it

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<v Speaker 2>wouldn't that had been great to avoid that by everyone

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<v Speaker 2>unless you are in favor of the brave new tripolar

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<v Speaker 2>world order, divide up the globe Thingyn's great?

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<v Speaker 1>Even then wouldn't you rather do that behind closed doors? Uh?

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe maybe the A certain chunk of the Magna crowd

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<v Speaker 2>seems very excited now that we can all gang up

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<v Speaker 2>on Zelensky and call him all the bad things that

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<v Speaker 2>some people were two weeks ago. Some of the same

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<v Speaker 2>people who are now jumping on that bandwagon were saying

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<v Speaker 2>the opposite two weeks ago, which is curious. And Rubio again,

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<v Speaker 2>who went from looking like he was going to vomit

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<v Speaker 2>Friday to being more gung ho than anybody on Sunday.

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<v Speaker 1>It's kind of interesting. But yeah, well maybe he I

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<v Speaker 1>thought he.

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<v Speaker 2>I was reading Rubio through my lens of the way

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<v Speaker 2>I saw the thing at least on Friday, and I

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<v Speaker 2>thought Marco Rubio sinking there in the couch, he was

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<v Speaker 2>fairly well portrayed by Saturday Night Live. I thought it

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<v Speaker 2>was because he was upset, disappointed, horrified by the way

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<v Speaker 2>Trump Advance were acting. Turns out, at least way he's

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<v Speaker 2>portraying it yesterday, he was horrified by the way Zelensky

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<v Speaker 2>was acting, right, and just like, dude, what are you doing?

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<v Speaker 2>You're blowing up this whole thing. Oh my god, is

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<v Speaker 2>the way Marco was thinking sitting there on the couch.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that that rings true.

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<v Speaker 2>Honestly, if you didn't get some of the contexts, if

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<v Speaker 2>you just jumped in. At the point that it went sideways,

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<v Speaker 2>it looked like Trump and Vance had lost their minds

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<v Speaker 2>and were just being horrific bullies. And there are some

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<v Speaker 2>aspects of what they said and the way they said

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<v Speaker 2>it that seemed very.

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<v Speaker 1>Like schoolyard bully to me, honestly.

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<v Speaker 2>But I was reminded of of the incident in when

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<v Speaker 2>was it twenty eleven something like that, when Net and

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<v Speaker 2>Yahoo came to the White House and lectured Obama. I

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<v Speaker 2>hated that, right, even though we asked that Obama. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm a Net Yahoo fan and didn't really like Barack Obama.

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<v Speaker 2>I did not like a foreign leader coming and election.

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<v Speaker 2>The president sitting there in front of the fireplace hated

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<v Speaker 2>that well, right, as did Obama as people, and they

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<v Speaker 2>just beat the crap out of Net Yahoo behind it

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<v Speaker 2>mostly behind the scenes.

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<v Speaker 1>This time is in front of the scenes.

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<v Speaker 2>And as Trump himself famously said, well, let's make for

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<v Speaker 2>good TV.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'd say that it is true. We should start

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<v Speaker 1>the show officially.

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<v Speaker 2>We got plenty of time to talk about a whole

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<v Speaker 2>bunch of stuff that's going on in the world. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>Jack Armstrong, he's Joe Getty on this. Oh, it's a

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<v Speaker 2>brand new month. We got a new month going on

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<v Speaker 2>March the third, the year twenty twenty five. We are

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<v Speaker 2>armstrong e gedy, and we approved this program. Okay, let's

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<v Speaker 2>begin that official according the FCC rules regulations.

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<v Speaker 1>Here we go at mark. Before we go any.

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<v Speaker 3>Further, I want you to know we did not use

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<v Speaker 3>AI to make this show. No AI, Yeah, no AI.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we would never do that. We use child labor. Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>there's still people.

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<v Speaker 3>Of course, we lost a little billy, but that's sad anyway, WHOA.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought Conan was very charming in a unwinnable situation

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<v Speaker 2>of a four hour telecast for something nobody cares about anymore.

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<v Speaker 2>The Oscars. I forgot it was on. I watched a

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<v Speaker 2>fair amount of it just because I saw. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>I was hoping for my movie, the one movie I

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<v Speaker 2>saw it to do well, and it did not. I

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<v Speaker 2>saw the Bob Dylan movie, and then they ended up

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<v Speaker 2>going to the sex Worker movie, which I did not

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<v Speaker 2>take my kids do. And I only go to movies

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<v Speaker 2>I can take.

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<v Speaker 1>My kids do.

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<v Speaker 2>Should have Bob Dylan, Mary a Russian oligarch apparently from

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<v Speaker 2>that normal something like that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I don't know, I just.

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<v Speaker 2>Feed out the other movies I'd never heard of. To

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<v Speaker 2>win sounds great. I'll bet I'd like it. Made it

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<v Speaker 2>for six million dollars. I love that. I think that's

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<v Speaker 2>really cool. Anyway, Uh so we got Katie's headlines on

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<v Speaker 2>the way. We got to get to some more of

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<v Speaker 2>the analysis of what's going on in the world, because

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<v Speaker 2>it's it's complicated, man, And we got mail bag this

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<v Speaker 2>hour and all kinds of good stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>Hope you can stay here.

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<v Speaker 2>There's no reason to complain about the oscars because you

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<v Speaker 2>didn't watch them or probably even know they were on.

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<v Speaker 2>And America has long since decided they don't care about this,

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<v Speaker 2>so there's no reason to continue shoveling dirt on that. Sure,

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<v Speaker 2>but I watching some of it last night, I continue

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<v Speaker 2>to marvel at how important they think their craft is.

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<v Speaker 2>They think they're curing cancer by making these movies every year,

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<v Speaker 2>the way they talk about them constantly.

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<v Speaker 1>The hottery film plays in American society, it doesn't. It

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<v Speaker 1>just doesn't.

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<v Speaker 2>No one. We're done with work and we're tired. Sometimes

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<v Speaker 2>we watch something to entertain ourselves and then we forget

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<v Speaker 2>about it after it happened. Some of them you're really

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<v Speaker 2>liking you talk about now and then, but they don't

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<v Speaker 2>change the world.

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<v Speaker 1>Get over yourself. Yeah, it's fun.

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<v Speaker 2>It's fine way to make a living. Go about it quietly,

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<v Speaker 2>which in plays. Hey, let's figure out who's reporting what.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the lead story with Katie Green Katie, thank you, guys.

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<v Speaker 4>Starting with ABC News, Zelenski thanks United States for support

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<v Speaker 4>after a week of tough to play lee and urges

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<v Speaker 4>real peace.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I don't want to get sidetrack. We're going

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<v Speaker 2>to be talking about this a lot, so I'll hold

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<v Speaker 2>my tongue now.

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<v Speaker 4>From Breitbart dot com, Van's family moved to quote undisclosed

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<v Speaker 4>location after pro Ukrainian protesters disrupt his ski trip.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh I got hate to have your ski trip disrupted.

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<v Speaker 4>From NPR, Israel stops the delivery of aid to Gaza

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<v Speaker 4>until Hamas accepts us ceasefire extension.

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<v Speaker 2>My only comment on on that is I was listening

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<v Speaker 2>to NPR this morning to punish myself for the bad

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<v Speaker 2>things I've done, and they had quite the report on this,

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<v Speaker 2>and the one thing that struck me was they never

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<v Speaker 2>even suggest that Hamas or the quote unquote Palestinian people

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<v Speaker 2>have any agency whatsoever. Their entire existence is the cruel

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<v Speaker 2>and or merciful things Israel does to them or for them.

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<v Speaker 2>Their actions choices are never discussed as if they're part

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<v Speaker 2>of the.

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<v Speaker 1>Formula of this. It's interesting the lefty point of view

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<v Speaker 1>on that.

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<v Speaker 4>From the New York Times, Trump turns up trade pressure

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<v Speaker 4>on China in response to inaction on fentanyl.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and again that might fit into the whole carving

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<v Speaker 2>up the world fanging We're gonna get rush on our

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<v Speaker 2>side to counterbalance China and whatever I'm reading about the

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<v Speaker 2>Wall Street.

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<v Speaker 4>Journal from NBC, the Pentagon to send nearly three thousand

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<v Speaker 4>additional active duty troops to the US Mexico border.

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<v Speaker 1>There you go.

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<v Speaker 4>From CNN, Adam Sandler's trademark casual wear mocked.

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<v Speaker 1>By Oscars host Conan O'Brien. That was pretty funny. He

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<v Speaker 1>went full.

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<v Speaker 4>Fetterman at the Oscars to tell oh, yeah, the.

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<v Speaker 2>Only thing I can say positively about the Oscars is

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<v Speaker 2>that some of the tuxedos are cool.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they are. I mean they go so far.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean some of them are a little over the top,

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<v Speaker 2>especially for a zoftig middle aged man like myself.

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<v Speaker 1>I couldn't pull off those looks.

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<v Speaker 2>But the whole it's not just black and white. You

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<v Speaker 2>can go interesting colors of I like that from.

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<v Speaker 4>The New York Post Texas may rename New York strip

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<v Speaker 4>steak indirect at shot liberal empire state that shouldn't get

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<v Speaker 4>the credit.

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<v Speaker 1>They're going to rename it the Texas strip steak.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay instead of the New York strip, kind of like

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<v Speaker 2>the Gulf of America of steaks exactly.

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<v Speaker 4>And finally from the Babylon Bee, insult to injury. Trump

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<v Speaker 4>changes Netflix password and now Zelensky has to get his

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<v Speaker 4>own account never ends.

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<v Speaker 2>Ah, the lighter side, Oh my god, No, getting the

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<v Speaker 2>lighter side of.

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<v Speaker 1>A horrible, horrible war, I mean, just brutal. Yeah, is ish,

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<v Speaker 1>He's just right.

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<v Speaker 2>My favorite analysis I read let me try that again.

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<v Speaker 2>My favorite analysis I read of this whole thing from

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<v Speaker 2>a great opinion writer at some point this hour, and

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<v Speaker 2>I thought, put it in pretty good perspective. And we

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<v Speaker 2>got a bunch of other stuff. Joe's got mailbag. Mail

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<v Speaker 2>Bag is very interesting and revealing.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh cool. I will just say that.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't wait if you miss a segment to get

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<v Speaker 2>the podcast Armstrong and Getty on demand.

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<v Speaker 1>Armstrong and Getty. I think The.

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<v Speaker 5>Last line in the President's truth social post is the

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<v Speaker 5>one to focus in on, and that is will be

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<v Speaker 5>ready to re engage when they're ready to make peace,

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<v Speaker 5>which is clearly what the president's goal is here. He's

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<v Speaker 5>trying to get Russia to the table to see there's

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<v Speaker 5>a way to bring about an end to this conflict.

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<v Speaker 5>That's his goal, that's his only goal, and you know,

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<v Speaker 5>hopefully we'll get to a point where that's possible.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, it's funny that clip from Marco Rubio from yesterday.

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<v Speaker 2>I felt like, after watching that whole thing on Friday,

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<v Speaker 2>I finally understood Trump's position, but I hadn't understood it before,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm not sure is Zelensky had understood it before.

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<v Speaker 1>What Trump's trying to say.

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<v Speaker 2>Is, look, we're there to help you if you want

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<v Speaker 2>to end the war, but we're not interested in you

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<v Speaker 2>continuing fighting the war. So you can't just like continue

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<v Speaker 2>to fight the war once we commit to helping you, right,

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<v Speaker 2>And I don't think that was presented in a way

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<v Speaker 2>that President Zlynsky understood or something at some point prior

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<v Speaker 2>to that. There were a number of aspects of that

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<v Speaker 2>that that bothered me, including I think maybe some of

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<v Speaker 2>the subtleties of language that were lost, which turn appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't imagine. Oh man, I made Bernie Sanders sound

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<v Speaker 2>like Pavaratti. Oh my god, one of the Flemish masters there.

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<v Speaker 1>That was rough. I'm getting over whatever I had last week.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yes, you're in the clearing out the system phase.

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<v Speaker 1>Huh yeah, I'm.

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<v Speaker 2>At about sixty percent I think, But I lived my

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<v Speaker 2>life at about seventy two percent, So right, you know

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<v Speaker 2>I'm close to normal.

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<v Speaker 1>Got it? Just for inflation or something like that. What

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<v Speaker 1>was I gonna say? Oh yeah, I can't imagine.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I don't speak a second language at all, but

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<v Speaker 2>I can't imagine if I did, getting into a heated

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<v Speaker 2>argument in somebody else's language and trying to keep up

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<v Speaker 2>and not doing great harm by not exactly the right

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<v Speaker 2>words and not exactly the right tone because you don't

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<v Speaker 2>speak the language right, and particularly if people are throwing

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<v Speaker 2>around what are known as idiomatic phrases, meaning slang and expressions.

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<v Speaker 2>We all understand the literal meaning of as native English speakers,

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<v Speaker 2>but somebody learning the language it would be completely lost

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<v Speaker 2>on them. You have no cards. I'm not playing cards?

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<v Speaker 2>Is a perfectly reasonable thing to say. If you don't

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<v Speaker 2>understand that, that means in a negotiation you have few leverages,

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<v Speaker 2>a few levers to use.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, when he said what do you mean by diplomacy? JD?

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<v Speaker 2>Which seemed to really set JD. Vance off, that's when

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<v Speaker 2>things went really crazy. He might have said that completely

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<v Speaker 2>differently or different tone if he was speaking his own language.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, you don't know anyway, I thought. One of

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<v Speaker 2>the most interesting things I came across over the weekend

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<v Speaker 2>was Ross Douthought's opinion piece in The Wall and the

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<v Speaker 2>New York Times rather now his co conservative using my

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<v Speaker 2>finger quotes in the New York Times, they you know,

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<v Speaker 2>they're they're conservatives are not exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>The same as you get everywhere else.

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<v Speaker 2>But Brett Stevens was His piece was just absolutely this

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<v Speaker 2>was a disaster. Trump is a villain, et cetera, et cetera.

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<v Speaker 2>Ross Duthought wrote this piece, Trump and Vance are stripping

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<v Speaker 2>away foreign policy illusions, and I thought this was really interesting,

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<v Speaker 2>and we talked.

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<v Speaker 1>A little bit about this last week. Donald Trump.

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<v Speaker 2>Henry Kissinger remarked in twenty eighteen, maybe one of those

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<v Speaker 2>figures in history who appears from time to time to

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<v Speaker 2>mark the end of an era and force it to

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<v Speaker 2>give up its old pretenses.

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<v Speaker 1>Which I know that i'd ever heard that quote.

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<v Speaker 2>That general first term comment might as well be marching

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<v Speaker 2>orders for Trump's second term foreign policy, from policy and

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<v Speaker 2>speeches to Friday's blow up in the Oval Office. The

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<v Speaker 2>president of Ukraine, everything Trump is doing and saying, and

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<v Speaker 2>everything is Vice President is saying and doing is ruthlessly

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<v Speaker 2>stripping away pretenses in the United States, around the United States,

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<v Speaker 2>and around the world.

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<v Speaker 1>And he gives some examples. Here you go, a pretense.

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<v Speaker 2>The United States is capable of playing the hegemonic role

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<v Speaker 2>that played twenty years ago, fully supporting democratic allies in

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<v Speaker 2>every region, standing ready to fight wars across multiple theaters,

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<v Speaker 2>refusing any compromise with authoritarianism.

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<v Speaker 1>The reality America is overstretched.

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<v Speaker 2>A more multipolar world requires making deals with unpleasant regimes,

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<v Speaker 2>and we need to recalibrate and retrench in ways that

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<v Speaker 2>will require much more of our.

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<v Speaker 1>Allies come in on that.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, Yeah, I had just read somewhere else, and I

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<v Speaker 2>was trying to find the citation that Ross is somebody

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<v Speaker 2>high in the administration's foreign policy whisperer, and he's very

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<v Speaker 2>big on what he just suggested Trump is doing. He

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<v Speaker 2>is cheerleading in that piece, even as he described well,

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<v Speaker 2>which fit, which fits in the thing we were talking

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<v Speaker 2>about earlier, about this grand bargain that might be working

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<v Speaker 2>behind the scenes with China, Taiwan, Greenland, rushie, all the

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<v Speaker 2>different things at one piece. Here's another pretense, a pretense

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<v Speaker 2>our European allies are strong nations and equal partners and

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<v Speaker 2>protecting the security of the world. The reality Europe has

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<v Speaker 2>been badly misgoverned. Its economic position is perilous, its demographic

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<v Speaker 2>situation is miserable, in its military capacities of atrophied, and

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<v Speaker 2>most of the chest thumping about a revival of European

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<v Speaker 2>power is empty talk and fantasy politics.

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<v Speaker 1>That is correct. Definitely, definitely think that's true.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, even the Rumsfeld way back in the day

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<v Speaker 2>was hinting toward that with his old europe talk.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, it's not what it used to be, all right.

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<v Speaker 2>I've been fairly staunchly in favor of helping Ukraine defeat Russia,

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<v Speaker 2>not the idiotic half measures of the Biden administration. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm on the records having said that, but I was

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<v Speaker 2>reading it might have been a journal I can't remember

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<v Speaker 2>Europe to forge new piece plan, it's going to be

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<v Speaker 2>lean much more heavily on European power and prestige and

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<v Speaker 2>the rest of it.

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<v Speaker 1>And I read that and it just it struck me

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<v Speaker 1>as pathetic.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, just just sad because they don't have the

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<v Speaker 2>capacity to influence events practically at all. Well that's that's

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<v Speaker 2>an overstatement, but they don't have much capacity to do that.

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<v Speaker 2>It was just it was exactly what ross do thought,

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<v Speaker 2>was just talking about faded powers still shining up their

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<v Speaker 2>metals and putting on their moth edn you know, uniforms

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<v Speaker 2>of significance. And by the way, this end of an

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<v Speaker 2>era and doing away with old pretenses. I've had to

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<v Speaker 2>do it in my own life a few times. It's

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<v Speaker 2>not a pleasant experience. It's not without its bumps. Whenever

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<v Speaker 2>you owed, indeed, whenever you have to do that well.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm presuming that the people in your personal life

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<v Speaker 2>that you're describing were not armed to the teeth with

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<v Speaker 2>advanced weaponry.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, another pretense.

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<v Speaker 2>With enough military aid and moral support, the Ukrainians can

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<v Speaker 2>roll back the Russians, secure their pre war borders, and

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<v Speaker 2>eventually join NATO.

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<v Speaker 1>The reality the war is stalemated.

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<v Speaker 2>There's no path to the Ukrainian victory short of a

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<v Speaker 2>direct American intervention, which ain't gonna happen. Some kind of

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<v Speaker 2>negotiated settlement is inevitable. NATO membership was never in the cards,

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<v Speaker 2>and there's value in speaking more openly about uncomfortable realities.

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<v Speaker 2>People need to know that the world is not what

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<v Speaker 2>it was in two thousand or even in twenty twelve.

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<v Speaker 2>They need to understand that the kind of issues that

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<v Speaker 2>Jade Vance raised in its controversial speech in Europe about

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<v Speaker 2>free speech and how they need to step up to

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<v Speaker 2>the place and their.

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<v Speaker 1>Native support and all that sort of stuff is real.

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<v Speaker 2>And people need to understand that the armiscist that the

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<v Speaker 2>Trump administration seems to want to negotiate with Russia may

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<v Speaker 2>not look all that different from the endgame that would

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<v Speaker 2>have developed on a democratic president. It would just taken longer.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think that's almost certainly true. Yeah, more death

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<v Speaker 2>and destruction.

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<v Speaker 1>I see, I can't.

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<v Speaker 2>I have trouble not getting backtracked to the conversation. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't like the way JD and Trump presented a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of this stuff to you. I think they put Zelensky

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<v Speaker 2>in an impossible position. How could you sit there and

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<v Speaker 2>get lectured about your own people dying?

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<v Speaker 1>I would I might have thrown punches.

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<v Speaker 2>I found that aspect of it sickening, literally sickening. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>you don't understand. I don't understand. I don't understand what's

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<v Speaker 2>going on here. You have many funerals.

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<v Speaker 1>I've been to you. Any mangled children I've seen being

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<v Speaker 1>yelled at? Your people are dying? Yeah, I know, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>where of that. Yeah, there's you know.

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<v Speaker 2>That's that's why I am so annoyed, exhausted by the whole.

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<v Speaker 2>Trump's one hundred percent right all the time in a

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<v Speaker 2>saint or He's the new hitler and a villain. And

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<v Speaker 2>even if he advocates something as clearly good as opening

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<v Speaker 2>the schools, I'm against it. And if he says the

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<v Speaker 2>bat virus came out of Wuhan, I'm going to stand

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<v Speaker 2>up for Chinese communists. I mean, whether trump ophelia or

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<v Speaker 2>Trumpophobia are both just so.

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<v Speaker 1>Dumb wears me out.

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<v Speaker 2>So it is Rossterusat's a column there in the main

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<v Speaker 2>on the button. Is he just you know, is he

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<v Speaker 2>describing reality? And we need to adjust to it and

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<v Speaker 2>realize the old world is moving away, blah blah blah. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>all right, super, but does that mean that that meeting

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<v Speaker 2>was not ugly and unnecessarily just bullying and nasty and

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<v Speaker 2>I'll try to wrap this up fast because I want

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<v Speaker 2>to get to mail bag and hear what people had

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<v Speaker 2>to say about all the stuff that happened over the weekend.

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<v Speaker 2>But so after Ross Duthought just said, you know, Trump's

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<v Speaker 2>just ushering in reality, which I think he agrees with.

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<v Speaker 2>I agree with their here's a little he could have

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<v Speaker 2>handled it better. Pretense in foreign policy is not always

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<v Speaker 2>the same thing as self deception. It's also just a

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<v Speaker 2>form of being polite, of circling uncomfortable subjects and making

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<v Speaker 2>countries that are in your debt or whom you need

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<v Speaker 2>to strong arm feel like they're friends and not just subjects.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a way to give foreign leaders space to do

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<v Speaker 2>what you want them to do while they are also

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<v Speaker 2>handled their own domestic audiences, making sure that you aren't

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<v Speaker 2>accidentally empowering parties hostile to your policies. Most of the

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<v Speaker 2>foreign policy team around Trump, so far as I can tell,

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<v Speaker 2>imagines itself, doing what realist Republican presidents like Dwight Eisenhower

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<v Speaker 2>and Richard Nixon have done in the past, matching means

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<v Speaker 2>and ends, accepting lesser evils to avoid greater ones, and

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<v Speaker 2>delivering necessary shock therapy for a system of alliances that

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<v Speaker 2>needs it. But those realist presidents were also extremely fluent

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<v Speaker 2>in the language of diplomacy. They could wax idealistic when

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<v Speaker 2>the situation called for it, speak smoothly even when they

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<v Speaker 2>are acting ruthlessly, and settle allies down as well as

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<v Speaker 2>trigger them. Trump does not speak diplomatically and never will.

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<v Speaker 2>But his first term foreign policy succeeded with the president

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<v Speaker 2>playing the heavy while his appointees offered normalcy.

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<v Speaker 1>His second term to date needs more of that balance.

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<v Speaker 2>Someone to twist arms and someone to smooth feathers, someone

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<v Speaker 2>to speak frankly, and someone to keep the frankest truth

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<v Speaker 2>telling off camera.

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<v Speaker 1>I would say that is true.

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<v Speaker 2>He did have some well of those kind of diplomats

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<v Speaker 2>that can kind of massage things along with his blunt talk.

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<v Speaker 1>There was no massaging anything on Friday.

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<v Speaker 2>Because in international relations, in the life of a nation,

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<v Speaker 2>the deal today is important, but how people feel of

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<v Speaker 2>and what happens the next time, and the next time

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<v Speaker 2>and the next time really matters. You can't, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>stick a knife in somebody's hand and make them sign

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<v Speaker 2>a document and say, there we go. It's all settled

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<v Speaker 2>down because you're gonna need them or want them or

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<v Speaker 2>something down the road. Yeah, if you've ever have been

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<v Speaker 2>a boss or in a situation like that, walking people

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<v Speaker 2>toward the decision you want them to make is much

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<v Speaker 2>better than just forcing someone to do it, or as

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<v Speaker 2>a parent or a spouse. Yeah, perfect example. Yeah, anyway,

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<v Speaker 2>we got to get the mailbag that's coming up. You

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<v Speaker 2>can always comment anytime you want text line four one,

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<v Speaker 2>two nine five KFTC. Why is it considered a scandal

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<v Speaker 2>if you look disappointed if you didn't win.

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<v Speaker 1>Isn't that the normal? Shouldn't you be hoping you won

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<v Speaker 1>and be disappointed if you didn't win. Oh No, you've

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<v Speaker 1>got to be gracious and happy for the people. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>so happy for you.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, no, nation deserves to exist if it permits

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<v Speaker 2>Without regard to whether the loss is due to the

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<v Speaker 2>growth of a heartless and self absorbing commercialism, to prolonged

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<v Speaker 2>indulgence in luxury and soft, effortless ease, or to the

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<v Speaker 2>deification of a warped and twisted sentimentality. In other words,

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<v Speaker 2>if a nation stops being a hard ass, it will crumble.

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<v Speaker 1>If you lose the manly.

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<v Speaker 2>Virtues and womanly of a nation, it does not deserve

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<v Speaker 1>Drops no mail bag at armstrong and geddy dot com.

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<v Speaker 1>I have not.

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<v Speaker 2>Stacked these emails in any particular order. They are all

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<v Speaker 2>about the explosive White House meeting on Friday, and it's

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<v Speaker 2>not enough data to really form an idea of what

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<v Speaker 2>you good folks think. But I thought it was interesting

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<v Speaker 2>the variety of perspectives. Having said that, Jay and San Jose, California, well,

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<v Speaker 2>it's clear Zlinsky is not a seasoned diplomat. The main

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<v Speaker 2>issue is US security guarantees. He's been willing to trade

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<v Speaker 2>mineral wealth for reconstruction continued arming of his military and security.

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<v Speaker 2>Was a mistake for him to bring up US security

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<v Speaker 2>guarantees in that setting.

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<v Speaker 3>Now.

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<v Speaker 2>The New York Post says that the Democrats, some Democrats put.

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<v Speaker 1>Him up to that. You know, you need to challenge him.

0:32:30.480 --> 0:32:33.880
<v Speaker 2>Don't let them get away with not giving the security guarantees.

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<v Speaker 2>And man, they let him down a bad road. If

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<v Speaker 2>that's what happened, Yeah, we'll dig into that later. Jim says,

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<v Speaker 2>I officially regret my vote. That was a calculated and

0:32:43.800 --> 0:32:46.680
<v Speaker 2>premeditated ambush of Zelensky. It was hard to watch, it

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<v Speaker 2>was painful to watch. It was sad to watch. I

0:32:49.080 --> 0:32:51.960
<v Speaker 2>officially regret my vote because of it. Donald Trump is

0:32:51.960 --> 0:32:54.280
<v Speaker 2>as mentally unfit for office as Joe Biden, but in

0:32:54.320 --> 0:32:57.000
<v Speaker 2>a different way. And he says, we're Americans. We support

0:32:57.000 --> 0:32:58.720
<v Speaker 2>freedom more than anything else. That's who we are and

0:32:58.720 --> 0:33:01.360
<v Speaker 2>that's what makes our country so great. Then he goes

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<v Speaker 2>into some of the horrors of the Ukrainian War, Ukrainian

0:33:04.680 --> 0:33:08.200
<v Speaker 2>men captured or systematically tortured, forced to fight against their

0:33:08.200 --> 0:33:11.560
<v Speaker 2>own countrymen, zero chances survival, thousands of children ripped away

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<v Speaker 2>from their families, now being institutionalized in Russia.

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<v Speaker 1>Goes on and on.

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<v Speaker 2>Man when Trump said to Zelensky, look at the hatred

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<v Speaker 2>he has for putin.

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<v Speaker 1>How can we possibly make a deal with the guy

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<v Speaker 1>has this kind of hatred for Putin? How would you

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<v Speaker 1>not have hatred for Putin?

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<v Speaker 2>I know that's utterly insane to say that, and yet

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<v Speaker 2>on a lot of you know, the other aspects of

0:33:31.960 --> 0:33:34.800
<v Speaker 2>this they've talked about, like Marco Rubio and Ross Duthat's column.

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<v Speaker 2>Just now, Yeah, you're right. Anyway, moving along, Oh, let's

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<v Speaker 2>see uh B Rights guy's Friday's meeting in the White

0:33:43.680 --> 0:33:46.040
<v Speaker 2>House brings to mind the old adage big men are

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<v Speaker 2>hard on themselves, small men are hard on others. Okay,

0:33:52.960 --> 0:33:56.840
<v Speaker 2>let's see John Wrights. I voted for Trump. I don't

0:33:56.840 --> 0:33:58.360
<v Speaker 2>regret it and still support a lot of what he

0:33:58.360 --> 0:34:00.480
<v Speaker 2>wants to do. But watching a man who actively avoided

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<v Speaker 2>the military and a sidekick who had a non combat

0:34:03.400 --> 0:34:07.440
<v Speaker 2>political resume building role in the military both attacking demean

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<v Speaker 2>a president fighting for a goddamn life of his country

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<v Speaker 2>and democracy was disgusting.

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<v Speaker 1>It appeared to me that JD.

0:34:14.080 --> 0:34:15.960
<v Speaker 2>Vance forced a shouting match so that we could score

0:34:16.000 --> 0:34:19.439
<v Speaker 2>bounty brownie points with Trump. I don't get that role

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<v Speaker 2>at all. That's surprising to me. I'm surprised Trump's cool JD.

0:34:25.200 --> 0:34:25.959
<v Speaker 1>Vance like.

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<v Speaker 2>Taking a role in how far things are going to

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<v Speaker 2>go new I'll decide how far we're gonna go.

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<v Speaker 1>You just sit there and watch. You're the vice president.

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<v Speaker 2>If we're gonna brow be to foreign leader on camera,

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<v Speaker 2>that's going to be me doing it and figuring out

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<v Speaker 2>how fight it's gonna go. Yeah, I would agree. At

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<v Speaker 2>the same time, though, as we said earlier, the idea

0:34:44.440 --> 0:34:47.680
<v Speaker 2>of a foreign leader coming and lecturing our president on

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<v Speaker 2>camera is highly improper, highly so.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and again there's.

0:34:55.160 --> 0:34:59.120
<v Speaker 2>A lot of good and bad, you know, admirable and

0:34:59.200 --> 0:35:01.239
<v Speaker 2>not admirable on all sides. Yeah, there's a great piece

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<v Speaker 2>in the National Review about how Ozelensky should have handled

0:35:04.000 --> 0:35:05.759
<v Speaker 2>this and how he screwed up, and we'll get to

0:35:05.800 --> 0:35:13.000
<v Speaker 2>that later. Yeah, let's see how about this, Jim says,

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<v Speaker 2>I've been with Ukraine from day one, hate the Russians

0:35:15.160 --> 0:35:17.279
<v Speaker 2>in the invasion, but there's been no movement of the

0:35:17.320 --> 0:35:19.520
<v Speaker 2>lines in the war for over a year. Trump's main

0:35:19.560 --> 0:35:21.960
<v Speaker 2>point is that time is now being wasted by Ukraine

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<v Speaker 2>hoping some grand breakthrough will occur.

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<v Speaker 1>It will not.

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<v Speaker 2>Also, Ukraine has a weight on us around our neck,

0:35:28.080 --> 0:35:31.200
<v Speaker 2>and instead we could get dragged into something. I am

0:35:31.239 --> 0:35:33.560
<v Speaker 2>all for the real politic of beating Putin, but Trump

0:35:33.600 --> 0:35:37.000
<v Speaker 2>has his eye on a bigger picture. Yes, Putin's a

0:35:37.000 --> 0:35:39.120
<v Speaker 2>war criminal, but it's all under the bridge at this point.

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<v Speaker 2>In other words, let's stop screwing around and get to

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<v Speaker 2>peace so people stop dying.

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<v Speaker 1>I get that you got a massage that.

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<v Speaker 2>Though I would agree, you know, there are plenty of

0:35:53.200 --> 0:35:57.360
<v Speaker 2>examples in history of the right thing being done in

0:35:57.400 --> 0:36:02.160
<v Speaker 2>the wrong way that happens. That whole thing of Zelensky

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<v Speaker 2>wanting to continue to fight reminds me of a line

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<v Speaker 2>from Gladiator when they about to destroy yet another tribe

0:36:10.600 --> 0:36:13.440
<v Speaker 2>that they want to take their land, and friend of

0:36:13.520 --> 0:36:16.600
<v Speaker 2>Russell Crow says, why don't people understand when they're defeated?

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<v Speaker 2>And Russell Crow says to him, would you would? I? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>It's easier said than done.

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<v Speaker 1>Right. We got a lot more on this, and we'd

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<v Speaker 1>love to hear from you.

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