1 00:00:39,479 --> 00:00:43,720 Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George 2 00:00:43,840 --> 00:00:48,360 Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Caddy arm Strong 3 00:00:48,440 --> 00:00:53,880 Speaker 1: and and he Armstrong and. 4 00:00:59,440 --> 00:01:04,560 Speaker 2: Brad Studio See see Senior A dimly lit room deep 5 00:01:04,600 --> 00:01:07,280 Speaker 2: with from the fowls of the Armstrong and Getty Communications 6 00:01:07,280 --> 00:01:10,040 Speaker 2: Compound to kick off a brand new week, and today 7 00:01:10,040 --> 00:01:13,600 Speaker 2: we're under the tutelage of our general manager, Voladimir z 8 00:01:13,640 --> 00:01:14,319 Speaker 2: A Lensco. 9 00:01:14,640 --> 00:01:19,520 Speaker 1: No, what happened? Good lord? The spicy Times gets spicier? 10 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:23,800 Speaker 1: How y'all doing new week, new month? Oh my gosh, 11 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:27,320 Speaker 1: pregnant with possibility. It's very exciting. I'm a little hungover 12 00:01:27,360 --> 00:01:31,520 Speaker 1: from a big Oscar party. What a wing ding that was? Wow? 13 00:01:32,480 --> 00:01:34,920 Speaker 2: Well, I had like four different costumes at ordering the night, 14 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:36,840 Speaker 2: so that was a little stressful and I probably drank 15 00:01:36,920 --> 00:01:39,600 Speaker 2: too much Shardenay and got out a hand. Oscar parties 16 00:01:39,680 --> 00:01:41,679 Speaker 2: used to be a thing. I doubt they are for 17 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:46,760 Speaker 2: very many people anymore. Seems so incredibly lame. I would 18 00:01:46,800 --> 00:01:49,880 Speaker 2: like to see a documentary studying people who still have 19 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:53,800 Speaker 2: Oscar parties. Right And by the way, I was lifestyles, 20 00:01:53,920 --> 00:01:57,000 Speaker 2: I believe I was actually thinking. Since we have started 21 00:01:57,040 --> 00:02:00,560 Speaker 2: on a number of new stations recently that are new 22 00:02:00,560 --> 00:02:03,720 Speaker 2: to our product and everything like that brief. 23 00:02:03,440 --> 00:02:04,640 Speaker 1: Description of what we are. 24 00:02:04,760 --> 00:02:09,280 Speaker 2: We are a dramedy about sex workers, if that helps 25 00:02:09,480 --> 00:02:15,400 Speaker 2: exactly explain. One of the most interesting things that's ever 26 00:02:15,440 --> 00:02:19,120 Speaker 2: happened happened like five minutes before our show ended on Friday, 27 00:02:19,200 --> 00:02:21,760 Speaker 2: So that was unfortunate that it couldn't have happened like 28 00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:24,280 Speaker 2: an hour earlier or something like that, so we wouldn't 29 00:02:25,480 --> 00:02:27,440 Speaker 2: miss it for two and a half days. And of course, 30 00:02:27,480 --> 00:02:31,160 Speaker 2: being whatever that was that occurred in the Oval office, 31 00:02:31,760 --> 00:02:35,880 Speaker 2: one of the strangest things anybody's ever seen, right, And 32 00:02:35,919 --> 00:02:37,679 Speaker 2: the more I learned about what went into it in 33 00:02:37,760 --> 00:02:41,840 Speaker 2: the context, the more interesting it becomes. It interrupts some 34 00:02:41,880 --> 00:02:44,760 Speaker 2: of the simplistic shouting at each other narratives, but. 35 00:02:45,400 --> 00:02:46,679 Speaker 1: I wish to enjoy it. 36 00:02:46,800 --> 00:02:49,800 Speaker 2: There was a way to have any conversation ever, that 37 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:52,600 Speaker 2: wasn't run through the filter of AREU for Trump or 38 00:02:52,600 --> 00:02:53,160 Speaker 2: against him? 39 00:02:53,520 --> 00:02:56,200 Speaker 1: Which dominates every conversation. 40 00:02:57,840 --> 00:03:01,280 Speaker 2: Unfortunately, it makes it very difficult to figure out what 41 00:03:01,320 --> 00:03:05,639 Speaker 2: people think well, and for a significant part of America, 42 00:03:05,680 --> 00:03:07,799 Speaker 2: and I'm not sure how significant. It's hard to say, 43 00:03:07,800 --> 00:03:11,640 Speaker 2: because social media is such a it's a distorting lens. 44 00:03:12,160 --> 00:03:14,800 Speaker 1: It is a lens. It shows you something. 45 00:03:14,480 --> 00:03:17,440 Speaker 2: But it it distorts the picture in a way that 46 00:03:17,800 --> 00:03:22,440 Speaker 2: it's difficult to quantify. But even more than it becoming 47 00:03:22,560 --> 00:03:25,760 Speaker 2: a just a simple question of whether you like Trump 48 00:03:25,880 --> 00:03:30,400 Speaker 2: or not, it seems like people who hate Trump, for instance, 49 00:03:32,120 --> 00:03:36,040 Speaker 2: can argue A and hate B on Monday, and if 50 00:03:36,240 --> 00:03:39,200 Speaker 2: Trump changes his mind, right, they love B and hate 51 00:03:39,240 --> 00:03:40,000 Speaker 2: A on Tuesday. 52 00:03:40,120 --> 00:03:43,640 Speaker 1: Right, That's what I meant. Sides, that's very difficult. 53 00:03:44,240 --> 00:03:49,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, we have mentioned a couple of times. Mark Alpern 54 00:03:49,440 --> 00:03:52,080 Speaker 2: wrote a paragraph I don't know how many weeks ago 55 00:03:52,080 --> 00:03:54,240 Speaker 2: it was now where he said, the all the talk 56 00:03:54,320 --> 00:03:57,360 Speaker 2: in Washington, d C. Is this grand deal that they're 57 00:03:57,360 --> 00:04:05,080 Speaker 2: trying to put together that includes China, Russia, Greenland, Thailand, Ukraine, 58 00:04:06,040 --> 00:04:10,320 Speaker 2: everything coming together in one grand bargain. Aprin said, it's 59 00:04:10,360 --> 00:04:12,200 Speaker 2: all the talk in DC. You can't go anywhere with 60 00:04:12,240 --> 00:04:14,440 Speaker 2: any audio may talk about whish. I find interesting given 61 00:04:14,480 --> 00:04:17,760 Speaker 2: the fact that it hasn't really surfaced anywhere except for 62 00:04:17,880 --> 00:04:20,520 Speaker 2: today in the Wall Street Journal, the editorial board has 63 00:04:20,960 --> 00:04:24,360 Speaker 2: Trump's old World Order? Does he want deals with Russia 64 00:04:24,400 --> 00:04:26,760 Speaker 2: and China to carve up the planet. He should tell 65 00:04:26,800 --> 00:04:30,720 Speaker 2: Americans with the idea that if this is part of 66 00:04:30,760 --> 00:04:34,040 Speaker 2: a grand strategy, maybe we should all be have an 67 00:04:34,040 --> 00:04:38,520 Speaker 2: idea of what's being discussed. Right, right, It's not the 68 00:04:38,560 --> 00:04:42,240 Speaker 2: sort of thing you spring on the world as a surprise. 69 00:04:42,040 --> 00:04:43,839 Speaker 1: Because maybe. 70 00:04:45,560 --> 00:04:51,360 Speaker 2: How belligerent the Trump administration is toward Ukraine would make 71 00:04:51,440 --> 00:04:54,240 Speaker 2: more sense if you were seeing it as part of 72 00:04:54,320 --> 00:04:57,520 Speaker 2: a deal that includes Taiwan, Greenland, China and a whole 73 00:04:57,520 --> 00:05:01,080 Speaker 2: bunch of other things. Correct, correct, Well, here's an indication 74 00:05:01,120 --> 00:05:06,800 Speaker 2: of whether that might hold water. The Russian Vladimir Putin's 75 00:05:06,839 --> 00:05:11,640 Speaker 2: spokesholes set a couple of really interesting things over the weekend. Interesting, troubling, horrifying, 76 00:05:11,640 --> 00:05:16,640 Speaker 2: depending on your perspective. Kremlin spokesman Dmitri Peskov said, quote, 77 00:05:16,640 --> 00:05:20,720 Speaker 2: the new administration is rapidly changing all foreign policy configurations. 78 00:05:20,880 --> 00:05:28,039 Speaker 2: This largely coincides with our vision. Coincides, I'm sorry. So 79 00:05:28,160 --> 00:05:31,120 Speaker 2: that's interesting to have the Kremlin spokesperson say that the 80 00:05:31,200 --> 00:05:36,000 Speaker 2: Trump policies coincide with our vision, which is crazy. But 81 00:05:36,080 --> 00:05:38,760 Speaker 2: the other thing they said to your point is, and 82 00:05:38,800 --> 00:05:42,719 Speaker 2: this is Russian State TV, now everything is being decided 83 00:05:42,720 --> 00:05:46,279 Speaker 2: inside a big triangle Russia, China, in the US. Within 84 00:05:46,360 --> 00:05:48,919 Speaker 2: this the new construction of the world will come to fruition. 85 00:05:49,279 --> 00:05:52,320 Speaker 2: The EU is a united political force no longer exists. 86 00:05:52,839 --> 00:05:56,200 Speaker 2: So they're talking about the big three way divide up 87 00:05:58,160 --> 00:06:02,680 Speaker 2: of the globe into spheres of influence. Wow, when do 88 00:06:02,760 --> 00:06:05,719 Speaker 2: we all get to find out about this? When are 89 00:06:05,800 --> 00:06:07,640 Speaker 2: people going to tell us how this is going, what 90 00:06:07,680 --> 00:06:12,359 Speaker 2: this is going to be, and then what's the reaction 91 00:06:12,640 --> 00:06:15,159 Speaker 2: to it as it is either announced or just becomes 92 00:06:15,200 --> 00:06:17,000 Speaker 2: more clear bit by bit right. 93 00:06:17,080 --> 00:06:18,000 Speaker 1: Having read. 94 00:06:19,360 --> 00:06:22,800 Speaker 2: Fairly famous book Paris nineteen nineteen from the end of 95 00:06:22,839 --> 00:06:25,680 Speaker 2: World War One, when the major powers, many of the 96 00:06:25,680 --> 00:06:28,240 Speaker 2: same powers got together and carved up the world, which 97 00:06:28,240 --> 00:06:30,080 Speaker 2: has caused many problems. 98 00:06:30,080 --> 00:06:32,080 Speaker 1: That wasn't really discussed with the world either. 99 00:06:32,200 --> 00:06:34,760 Speaker 2: A bunch of important diplomats got together in a room 100 00:06:34,760 --> 00:06:36,479 Speaker 2: and carved up the world and came out and said, Okay, 101 00:06:36,480 --> 00:06:38,160 Speaker 2: here's the way it's going to be for the next. 102 00:06:37,960 --> 00:06:40,200 Speaker 1: Century and a half. Here's your new borders. 103 00:06:40,320 --> 00:06:43,839 Speaker 2: Enjoy them, Enjoy them. And so maybe that's what's going 104 00:06:43,880 --> 00:06:44,400 Speaker 2: to happen here. 105 00:06:44,440 --> 00:06:46,400 Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean this, I realize this all 106 00:06:46,440 --> 00:06:47,279 Speaker 1: sounds very. 107 00:06:48,720 --> 00:06:52,320 Speaker 2: Lofty or or like it's from Marvel Universe or something 108 00:06:52,440 --> 00:06:53,800 Speaker 2: like that. I got to talk about I went to 109 00:06:53,800 --> 00:06:57,080 Speaker 2: the new Captain America. Boy's that a suck fest? Oh? 110 00:06:57,200 --> 00:07:05,880 Speaker 1: No, God was honorable? Wow? Some Captain America great again? Yeah, yeah, 111 00:07:05,960 --> 00:07:07,200 Speaker 1: we'll make Marvel grade again. 112 00:07:07,720 --> 00:07:09,960 Speaker 2: Just to know they've got they've gone off the rails, 113 00:07:10,040 --> 00:07:11,240 Speaker 2: as many people have pointed out. 114 00:07:11,440 --> 00:07:14,200 Speaker 1: But I was like, I say, oh, just like some there's. 115 00:07:14,040 --> 00:07:19,800 Speaker 2: Some overarching sort of players involved in the structuring the 116 00:07:19,840 --> 00:07:21,360 Speaker 2: world that the rest of the people don't know. I 117 00:07:21,360 --> 00:07:25,400 Speaker 2: feel like that's is that what's going on now? I 118 00:07:25,400 --> 00:07:29,120 Speaker 2: don't know, but but my point being, maybe what the 119 00:07:29,280 --> 00:07:34,160 Speaker 2: the thing with uh, the way Trump's handling Putin and 120 00:07:34,200 --> 00:07:37,360 Speaker 2: everything like that makes sense in that structure. 121 00:07:37,600 --> 00:07:41,840 Speaker 1: I don't know. I guess we'll find out someday. And again, what's. 122 00:07:41,640 --> 00:07:46,120 Speaker 2: The reaction to that going to be among congressional leaders, 123 00:07:47,000 --> 00:07:51,360 Speaker 2: your your cabinet people, your Marco's Rubio for instance, Because 124 00:07:51,360 --> 00:07:55,080 Speaker 2: I remember from the first Trump term and this one's different. Obviously, 125 00:07:55,120 --> 00:07:57,680 Speaker 2: it's been much discussed that he's figured out who he 126 00:07:57,720 --> 00:08:00,120 Speaker 2: really wants around him, as opposed to just take the 127 00:08:00,160 --> 00:08:03,440 Speaker 2: other people's recommendation for what you know, wise and old 128 00:08:03,520 --> 00:08:05,880 Speaker 2: Washington hand he should hire now it's his people. But 129 00:08:06,680 --> 00:08:10,240 Speaker 2: I remember that folks were with him, and they were 130 00:08:10,320 --> 00:08:12,520 Speaker 2: kind of with him, and then he fired him because 131 00:08:12,520 --> 00:08:14,960 Speaker 2: obviously behind the scenes they were telling him, look, this 132 00:08:15,000 --> 00:08:15,560 Speaker 2: can't happen. 133 00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:18,600 Speaker 1: The list is long, John Bolton and go from there. 134 00:08:19,960 --> 00:08:23,280 Speaker 2: I just wonder how long a Marco Rubio, for instance, 135 00:08:24,160 --> 00:08:27,080 Speaker 2: will hang with this new vision. 136 00:08:26,880 --> 00:08:28,240 Speaker 1: How one he likes it, I don't know. 137 00:08:28,320 --> 00:08:31,400 Speaker 2: He sure seemed all in yesterday on whichever talk show 138 00:08:31,440 --> 00:08:32,080 Speaker 2: I saw him on. 139 00:08:32,360 --> 00:08:33,360 Speaker 1: He seemed all in. 140 00:08:33,480 --> 00:08:37,560 Speaker 2: He mean, he seemed as a forceful a mouthpiece for 141 00:08:37,720 --> 00:08:40,600 Speaker 2: Trump and Vance's view as you could possibly get. Now, 142 00:08:40,640 --> 00:08:45,440 Speaker 2: his old National Security advisor H. R. McMaster, who he 143 00:08:45,520 --> 00:08:47,559 Speaker 2: did get rid of in the way that you just described, 144 00:08:48,080 --> 00:08:50,360 Speaker 2: was on one of the talk shows yesterday, and he's 145 00:08:50,480 --> 00:08:52,120 Speaker 2: not digging what's going on at all. 146 00:08:53,080 --> 00:08:53,400 Speaker 1: I think. 147 00:08:53,440 --> 00:08:55,760 Speaker 2: So it was a real there's no way that was 148 00:08:55,800 --> 00:08:58,120 Speaker 2: a good thing that happened on Friday. Isn't And it 149 00:08:58,160 --> 00:09:01,120 Speaker 2: wouldn't that had been great to avoid that by everyone 150 00:09:01,920 --> 00:09:05,920 Speaker 2: unless you are in favor of the brave new tripolar 151 00:09:05,960 --> 00:09:09,040 Speaker 2: world order, divide up the globe Thingyn's great? 152 00:09:09,240 --> 00:09:13,480 Speaker 1: Even then wouldn't you rather do that behind closed doors? Uh? 153 00:09:13,840 --> 00:09:18,079 Speaker 2: Maybe maybe the A certain chunk of the Magna crowd 154 00:09:18,120 --> 00:09:21,080 Speaker 2: seems very excited now that we can all gang up 155 00:09:21,120 --> 00:09:23,400 Speaker 2: on Zelensky and call him all the bad things that 156 00:09:23,880 --> 00:09:26,640 Speaker 2: some people were two weeks ago. Some of the same 157 00:09:26,640 --> 00:09:28,800 Speaker 2: people who are now jumping on that bandwagon were saying 158 00:09:28,800 --> 00:09:31,960 Speaker 2: the opposite two weeks ago, which is curious. And Rubio again, 159 00:09:32,000 --> 00:09:33,920 Speaker 2: who went from looking like he was going to vomit 160 00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:36,600 Speaker 2: Friday to being more gung ho than anybody on Sunday. 161 00:09:36,640 --> 00:09:40,679 Speaker 1: It's kind of interesting. But yeah, well maybe he I 162 00:09:40,720 --> 00:09:41,160 Speaker 1: thought he. 163 00:09:41,840 --> 00:09:44,319 Speaker 2: I was reading Rubio through my lens of the way 164 00:09:44,360 --> 00:09:46,680 Speaker 2: I saw the thing at least on Friday, and I 165 00:09:46,679 --> 00:09:49,800 Speaker 2: thought Marco Rubio sinking there in the couch, he was 166 00:09:50,040 --> 00:09:52,640 Speaker 2: fairly well portrayed by Saturday Night Live. I thought it 167 00:09:52,679 --> 00:09:56,559 Speaker 2: was because he was upset, disappointed, horrified by the way 168 00:09:56,600 --> 00:10:00,439 Speaker 2: Trump Advance were acting. Turns out, at least way he's 169 00:10:00,480 --> 00:10:03,040 Speaker 2: portraying it yesterday, he was horrified by the way Zelensky 170 00:10:03,160 --> 00:10:06,120 Speaker 2: was acting, right, and just like, dude, what are you doing? 171 00:10:06,200 --> 00:10:08,760 Speaker 2: You're blowing up this whole thing. Oh my god, is 172 00:10:08,920 --> 00:10:11,679 Speaker 2: the way Marco was thinking sitting there on the couch. 173 00:10:12,280 --> 00:10:13,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, that that rings true. 174 00:10:13,520 --> 00:10:16,400 Speaker 2: Honestly, if you didn't get some of the contexts, if 175 00:10:16,400 --> 00:10:18,800 Speaker 2: you just jumped in. At the point that it went sideways, 176 00:10:19,640 --> 00:10:22,360 Speaker 2: it looked like Trump and Vance had lost their minds 177 00:10:22,920 --> 00:10:25,120 Speaker 2: and were just being horrific bullies. And there are some 178 00:10:25,200 --> 00:10:27,160 Speaker 2: aspects of what they said and the way they said 179 00:10:27,200 --> 00:10:28,679 Speaker 2: it that seemed very. 180 00:10:28,640 --> 00:10:30,280 Speaker 1: Like schoolyard bully to me, honestly. 181 00:10:30,520 --> 00:10:34,240 Speaker 2: But I was reminded of of the incident in when 182 00:10:34,320 --> 00:10:37,160 Speaker 2: was it twenty eleven something like that, when Net and 183 00:10:37,240 --> 00:10:40,760 Speaker 2: Yahoo came to the White House and lectured Obama. I 184 00:10:40,800 --> 00:10:44,720 Speaker 2: hated that, right, even though we asked that Obama. But yeah, 185 00:10:44,760 --> 00:10:47,280 Speaker 2: I'm a Net Yahoo fan and didn't really like Barack Obama. 186 00:10:47,480 --> 00:10:50,679 Speaker 2: I did not like a foreign leader coming and election. 187 00:10:50,800 --> 00:10:52,920 Speaker 2: The president sitting there in front of the fireplace hated 188 00:10:52,920 --> 00:10:55,880 Speaker 2: that well, right, as did Obama as people, and they 189 00:10:55,960 --> 00:10:57,800 Speaker 2: just beat the crap out of Net Yahoo behind it 190 00:10:57,880 --> 00:10:59,040 Speaker 2: mostly behind the scenes. 191 00:11:00,160 --> 00:11:01,520 Speaker 1: This time is in front of the scenes. 192 00:11:01,520 --> 00:11:03,920 Speaker 2: And as Trump himself famously said, well, let's make for 193 00:11:04,040 --> 00:11:04,480 Speaker 2: good TV. 194 00:11:06,600 --> 00:11:09,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'd say that it is true. We should start 195 00:11:09,679 --> 00:11:10,319 Speaker 1: the show officially. 196 00:11:10,360 --> 00:11:11,760 Speaker 2: We got plenty of time to talk about a whole 197 00:11:11,760 --> 00:11:13,679 Speaker 2: bunch of stuff that's going on in the world. I'm 198 00:11:13,720 --> 00:11:16,000 Speaker 2: Jack Armstrong, he's Joe Getty on this. Oh, it's a 199 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:18,120 Speaker 2: brand new month. We got a new month going on 200 00:11:18,440 --> 00:11:20,760 Speaker 2: March the third, the year twenty twenty five. We are 201 00:11:20,840 --> 00:11:23,760 Speaker 2: armstrong e gedy, and we approved this program. Okay, let's 202 00:11:23,760 --> 00:11:26,160 Speaker 2: begin that official according the FCC rules regulations. 203 00:11:26,160 --> 00:11:28,400 Speaker 1: Here we go at mark. Before we go any. 204 00:11:28,240 --> 00:11:31,160 Speaker 3: Further, I want you to know we did not use 205 00:11:31,360 --> 00:11:37,240 Speaker 3: AI to make this show. No AI, Yeah, no AI. 206 00:11:37,840 --> 00:11:45,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, we would never do that. We use child labor. Hey, 207 00:11:45,000 --> 00:11:45,920 Speaker 1: there's still people. 208 00:11:50,440 --> 00:11:54,400 Speaker 3: Of course, we lost a little billy, but that's sad anyway, WHOA. 209 00:11:57,760 --> 00:12:01,560 Speaker 2: I thought Conan was very charming in a unwinnable situation 210 00:12:01,679 --> 00:12:06,000 Speaker 2: of a four hour telecast for something nobody cares about anymore. 211 00:12:06,679 --> 00:12:09,880 Speaker 2: The Oscars. I forgot it was on. I watched a 212 00:12:09,920 --> 00:12:12,120 Speaker 2: fair amount of it just because I saw. You know, 213 00:12:12,200 --> 00:12:14,440 Speaker 2: I was hoping for my movie, the one movie I 214 00:12:14,440 --> 00:12:18,320 Speaker 2: saw it to do well, and it did not. I 215 00:12:18,320 --> 00:12:20,320 Speaker 2: saw the Bob Dylan movie, and then they ended up 216 00:12:20,320 --> 00:12:22,280 Speaker 2: going to the sex Worker movie, which I did not 217 00:12:22,400 --> 00:12:24,320 Speaker 2: take my kids do. And I only go to movies 218 00:12:24,360 --> 00:12:24,880 Speaker 2: I can take. 219 00:12:24,760 --> 00:12:25,200 Speaker 1: My kids do. 220 00:12:25,640 --> 00:12:29,000 Speaker 2: Should have Bob Dylan, Mary a Russian oligarch apparently from 221 00:12:29,080 --> 00:12:31,200 Speaker 2: that normal something like that. 222 00:12:31,280 --> 00:12:32,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know, I just. 223 00:12:32,160 --> 00:12:34,120 Speaker 2: Feed out the other movies I'd never heard of. To 224 00:12:34,160 --> 00:12:36,920 Speaker 2: win sounds great. I'll bet I'd like it. Made it 225 00:12:36,960 --> 00:12:39,480 Speaker 2: for six million dollars. I love that. I think that's 226 00:12:39,520 --> 00:12:43,920 Speaker 2: really cool. Anyway, Uh so we got Katie's headlines on 227 00:12:43,960 --> 00:12:45,360 Speaker 2: the way. We got to get to some more of 228 00:12:45,400 --> 00:12:47,559 Speaker 2: the analysis of what's going on in the world, because 229 00:12:47,559 --> 00:12:51,160 Speaker 2: it's it's complicated, man, And we got mail bag this 230 00:12:51,200 --> 00:12:52,200 Speaker 2: hour and all kinds of good stuff. 231 00:12:52,200 --> 00:12:52,920 Speaker 1: Hope you can stay here. 232 00:12:56,720 --> 00:12:59,680 Speaker 2: There's no reason to complain about the oscars because you 233 00:12:59,720 --> 00:13:01,959 Speaker 2: didn't watch them or probably even know they were on. 234 00:13:02,640 --> 00:13:06,520 Speaker 2: And America has long since decided they don't care about this, 235 00:13:06,720 --> 00:13:11,000 Speaker 2: so there's no reason to continue shoveling dirt on that. Sure, 236 00:13:11,160 --> 00:13:14,240 Speaker 2: but I watching some of it last night, I continue 237 00:13:14,280 --> 00:13:17,560 Speaker 2: to marvel at how important they think their craft is. 238 00:13:18,080 --> 00:13:22,040 Speaker 2: They think they're curing cancer by making these movies every year, 239 00:13:22,080 --> 00:13:23,679 Speaker 2: the way they talk about them constantly. 240 00:13:24,840 --> 00:13:31,360 Speaker 1: The hottery film plays in American society, it doesn't. It 241 00:13:31,640 --> 00:13:32,400 Speaker 1: just doesn't. 242 00:13:32,880 --> 00:13:35,480 Speaker 2: No one. We're done with work and we're tired. Sometimes 243 00:13:35,480 --> 00:13:38,880 Speaker 2: we watch something to entertain ourselves and then we forget 244 00:13:38,880 --> 00:13:40,840 Speaker 2: about it after it happened. Some of them you're really 245 00:13:40,880 --> 00:13:42,640 Speaker 2: liking you talk about now and then, but they don't 246 00:13:42,720 --> 00:13:43,520 Speaker 2: change the world. 247 00:13:43,679 --> 00:13:45,840 Speaker 1: Get over yourself. Yeah, it's fun. 248 00:13:45,840 --> 00:13:48,120 Speaker 2: It's fine way to make a living. Go about it quietly, 249 00:13:48,160 --> 00:13:50,360 Speaker 2: which in plays. Hey, let's figure out who's reporting what. 250 00:13:50,440 --> 00:13:53,760 Speaker 1: It's the lead story with Katie Green Katie, thank you, guys. 251 00:13:53,920 --> 00:13:58,280 Speaker 4: Starting with ABC News, Zelenski thanks United States for support 252 00:13:58,440 --> 00:14:01,280 Speaker 4: after a week of tough to play lee and urges 253 00:14:01,520 --> 00:14:02,240 Speaker 4: real peace. 254 00:14:04,040 --> 00:14:04,559 Speaker 1: Yeah. 255 00:14:04,679 --> 00:14:06,280 Speaker 2: I mean, I don't want to get sidetrack. We're going 256 00:14:06,360 --> 00:14:08,080 Speaker 2: to be talking about this a lot, so I'll hold 257 00:14:08,080 --> 00:14:08,719 Speaker 2: my tongue now. 258 00:14:09,840 --> 00:14:14,280 Speaker 4: From Breitbart dot com, Van's family moved to quote undisclosed 259 00:14:14,360 --> 00:14:18,760 Speaker 4: location after pro Ukrainian protesters disrupt his ski trip. 260 00:14:19,360 --> 00:14:23,000 Speaker 1: Oh I got hate to have your ski trip disrupted. 261 00:14:24,400 --> 00:14:28,160 Speaker 4: From NPR, Israel stops the delivery of aid to Gaza 262 00:14:28,280 --> 00:14:31,720 Speaker 4: until Hamas accepts us ceasefire extension. 263 00:14:33,120 --> 00:14:35,040 Speaker 2: My only comment on on that is I was listening 264 00:14:35,080 --> 00:14:37,680 Speaker 2: to NPR this morning to punish myself for the bad 265 00:14:37,720 --> 00:14:41,440 Speaker 2: things I've done, and they had quite the report on this, 266 00:14:41,680 --> 00:14:45,680 Speaker 2: and the one thing that struck me was they never 267 00:14:47,040 --> 00:14:51,640 Speaker 2: even suggest that Hamas or the quote unquote Palestinian people 268 00:14:51,720 --> 00:14:57,040 Speaker 2: have any agency whatsoever. Their entire existence is the cruel 269 00:14:57,200 --> 00:15:00,720 Speaker 2: and or merciful things Israel does to them or for them. 270 00:15:01,280 --> 00:15:06,240 Speaker 2: Their actions choices are never discussed as if they're part 271 00:15:06,280 --> 00:15:06,520 Speaker 2: of the. 272 00:15:06,920 --> 00:15:09,480 Speaker 1: Formula of this. It's interesting the lefty point of view 273 00:15:09,480 --> 00:15:09,680 Speaker 1: on that. 274 00:15:11,440 --> 00:15:14,920 Speaker 4: From the New York Times, Trump turns up trade pressure 275 00:15:15,000 --> 00:15:18,440 Speaker 4: on China in response to inaction on fentanyl. 276 00:15:19,760 --> 00:15:22,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, and again that might fit into the whole carving 277 00:15:22,800 --> 00:15:25,400 Speaker 2: up the world fanging We're gonna get rush on our 278 00:15:25,520 --> 00:15:29,600 Speaker 2: side to counterbalance China and whatever I'm reading about the 279 00:15:29,600 --> 00:15:30,240 Speaker 2: Wall Street. 280 00:15:30,080 --> 00:15:35,520 Speaker 4: Journal from NBC, the Pentagon to send nearly three thousand 281 00:15:35,600 --> 00:15:39,080 Speaker 4: additional active duty troops to the US Mexico border. 282 00:15:39,120 --> 00:15:39,480 Speaker 1: There you go. 283 00:15:42,200 --> 00:15:46,920 Speaker 4: From CNN, Adam Sandler's trademark casual wear mocked. 284 00:15:46,560 --> 00:15:50,080 Speaker 1: By Oscars host Conan O'Brien. That was pretty funny. He 285 00:15:50,160 --> 00:15:50,680 Speaker 1: went full. 286 00:15:50,560 --> 00:15:55,120 Speaker 4: Fetterman at the Oscars to tell oh, yeah, the. 287 00:15:55,080 --> 00:15:58,040 Speaker 2: Only thing I can say positively about the Oscars is 288 00:15:58,080 --> 00:16:02,600 Speaker 2: that some of the tuxedos are cool. 289 00:16:02,840 --> 00:16:04,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, they are. I mean they go so far. 290 00:16:04,760 --> 00:16:06,480 Speaker 2: I mean some of them are a little over the top, 291 00:16:06,640 --> 00:16:10,360 Speaker 2: especially for a zoftig middle aged man like myself. 292 00:16:10,400 --> 00:16:11,760 Speaker 1: I couldn't pull off those looks. 293 00:16:11,800 --> 00:16:14,640 Speaker 2: But the whole it's not just black and white. You 294 00:16:14,640 --> 00:16:18,400 Speaker 2: can go interesting colors of I like that from. 295 00:16:18,200 --> 00:16:22,040 Speaker 4: The New York Post Texas may rename New York strip 296 00:16:22,080 --> 00:16:26,280 Speaker 4: steak indirect at shot liberal empire state that shouldn't get 297 00:16:26,280 --> 00:16:26,720 Speaker 4: the credit. 298 00:16:27,800 --> 00:16:30,040 Speaker 1: They're going to rename it the Texas strip steak. 299 00:16:30,040 --> 00:16:32,480 Speaker 2: Okay instead of the New York strip, kind of like 300 00:16:32,560 --> 00:16:36,360 Speaker 2: the Gulf of America of steaks exactly. 301 00:16:37,800 --> 00:16:42,240 Speaker 4: And finally from the Babylon Bee, insult to injury. Trump 302 00:16:42,320 --> 00:16:45,320 Speaker 4: changes Netflix password and now Zelensky has to get his 303 00:16:45,360 --> 00:16:47,600 Speaker 4: own account never ends. 304 00:16:48,600 --> 00:16:52,640 Speaker 2: Ah, the lighter side, Oh my god, No, getting the 305 00:16:52,720 --> 00:16:53,680 Speaker 2: lighter side of. 306 00:16:53,640 --> 00:17:00,000 Speaker 1: A horrible, horrible war, I mean, just brutal. Yeah, is ish, 307 00:17:00,200 --> 00:17:00,920 Speaker 1: He's just right. 308 00:17:02,440 --> 00:17:05,399 Speaker 2: My favorite analysis I read let me try that again. 309 00:17:05,640 --> 00:17:09,000 Speaker 2: My favorite analysis I read of this whole thing from 310 00:17:09,040 --> 00:17:12,720 Speaker 2: a great opinion writer at some point this hour, and 311 00:17:12,800 --> 00:17:14,480 Speaker 2: I thought, put it in pretty good perspective. And we 312 00:17:14,520 --> 00:17:16,760 Speaker 2: got a bunch of other stuff. Joe's got mailbag. Mail 313 00:17:16,800 --> 00:17:19,440 Speaker 2: Bag is very interesting and revealing. 314 00:17:19,600 --> 00:17:21,040 Speaker 1: Oh cool. I will just say that. 315 00:17:21,119 --> 00:17:22,560 Speaker 2: I can't wait if you miss a segment to get 316 00:17:22,560 --> 00:17:26,879 Speaker 2: the podcast Armstrong and Getty on demand. 317 00:17:27,160 --> 00:17:30,200 Speaker 1: Armstrong and Getty. I think The. 318 00:17:30,200 --> 00:17:32,440 Speaker 5: Last line in the President's truth social post is the 319 00:17:32,480 --> 00:17:34,520 Speaker 5: one to focus in on, and that is will be 320 00:17:34,560 --> 00:17:36,600 Speaker 5: ready to re engage when they're ready to make peace, 321 00:17:36,640 --> 00:17:39,440 Speaker 5: which is clearly what the president's goal is here. He's 322 00:17:39,480 --> 00:17:42,000 Speaker 5: trying to get Russia to the table to see there's 323 00:17:42,000 --> 00:17:43,960 Speaker 5: a way to bring about an end to this conflict. 324 00:17:44,040 --> 00:17:46,919 Speaker 5: That's his goal, that's his only goal, and you know, 325 00:17:46,960 --> 00:17:48,840 Speaker 5: hopefully we'll get to a point where that's possible. 326 00:17:49,080 --> 00:17:52,080 Speaker 2: You know, it's funny that clip from Marco Rubio from yesterday. 327 00:17:53,320 --> 00:17:56,119 Speaker 2: I felt like, after watching that whole thing on Friday, 328 00:17:56,160 --> 00:18:00,840 Speaker 2: I finally understood Trump's position, but I hadn't understood it before, 329 00:18:00,840 --> 00:18:03,000 Speaker 2: and I'm not sure is Zelensky had understood it before. 330 00:18:04,359 --> 00:18:06,240 Speaker 1: What Trump's trying to say. 331 00:18:06,040 --> 00:18:09,680 Speaker 2: Is, look, we're there to help you if you want 332 00:18:09,720 --> 00:18:12,800 Speaker 2: to end the war, but we're not interested in you 333 00:18:12,880 --> 00:18:18,920 Speaker 2: continuing fighting the war. So you can't just like continue 334 00:18:18,960 --> 00:18:24,560 Speaker 2: to fight the war once we commit to helping you, right, 335 00:18:25,040 --> 00:18:27,960 Speaker 2: And I don't think that was presented in a way 336 00:18:28,000 --> 00:18:32,320 Speaker 2: that President Zlynsky understood or something at some point prior 337 00:18:32,359 --> 00:18:35,119 Speaker 2: to that. There were a number of aspects of that 338 00:18:35,119 --> 00:18:38,000 Speaker 2: that that bothered me, including I think maybe some of 339 00:18:38,000 --> 00:18:43,560 Speaker 2: the subtleties of language that were lost, which turn appreciate it. 340 00:18:43,640 --> 00:18:51,200 Speaker 2: I can't imagine. Oh man, I made Bernie Sanders sound 341 00:18:51,240 --> 00:18:54,880 Speaker 2: like Pavaratti. Oh my god, one of the Flemish masters there. 342 00:18:55,000 --> 00:18:59,000 Speaker 1: That was rough. I'm getting over whatever I had last week. 343 00:18:59,440 --> 00:19:02,639 Speaker 2: Oh yes, you're in the clearing out the system phase. 344 00:19:02,720 --> 00:19:04,919 Speaker 1: Huh yeah, I'm. 345 00:19:04,280 --> 00:19:06,639 Speaker 2: At about sixty percent I think, But I lived my 346 00:19:06,680 --> 00:19:09,000 Speaker 2: life at about seventy two percent, So right, you know 347 00:19:09,040 --> 00:19:09,840 Speaker 2: I'm close to normal. 348 00:19:11,160 --> 00:19:14,879 Speaker 1: Got it? Just for inflation or something like that. What 349 00:19:14,960 --> 00:19:18,720 Speaker 1: was I gonna say? Oh yeah, I can't imagine. 350 00:19:18,760 --> 00:19:20,760 Speaker 2: Well, I don't speak a second language at all, but 351 00:19:20,880 --> 00:19:24,000 Speaker 2: I can't imagine if I did, getting into a heated 352 00:19:24,160 --> 00:19:28,359 Speaker 2: argument in somebody else's language and trying to keep up 353 00:19:28,960 --> 00:19:32,600 Speaker 2: and not doing great harm by not exactly the right 354 00:19:32,640 --> 00:19:35,080 Speaker 2: words and not exactly the right tone because you don't 355 00:19:35,119 --> 00:19:39,760 Speaker 2: speak the language right, and particularly if people are throwing 356 00:19:39,760 --> 00:19:45,080 Speaker 2: around what are known as idiomatic phrases, meaning slang and expressions. 357 00:19:45,119 --> 00:19:48,680 Speaker 2: We all understand the literal meaning of as native English speakers, 358 00:19:48,680 --> 00:19:52,800 Speaker 2: but somebody learning the language it would be completely lost 359 00:19:52,880 --> 00:19:55,879 Speaker 2: on them. You have no cards. I'm not playing cards? 360 00:19:56,000 --> 00:19:58,760 Speaker 2: Is a perfectly reasonable thing to say. If you don't 361 00:19:58,840 --> 00:20:03,840 Speaker 2: understand that, that means in a negotiation you have few leverages, 362 00:20:04,520 --> 00:20:06,720 Speaker 2: a few levers to use. 363 00:20:07,160 --> 00:20:10,800 Speaker 1: Well, when he said what do you mean by diplomacy? JD? 364 00:20:10,920 --> 00:20:13,719 Speaker 2: Which seemed to really set JD. Vance off, that's when 365 00:20:13,840 --> 00:20:17,000 Speaker 2: things went really crazy. He might have said that completely 366 00:20:17,119 --> 00:20:21,359 Speaker 2: differently or different tone if he was speaking his own language. 367 00:20:21,760 --> 00:20:25,520 Speaker 2: I mean, you don't know anyway, I thought. One of 368 00:20:25,560 --> 00:20:28,119 Speaker 2: the most interesting things I came across over the weekend 369 00:20:28,359 --> 00:20:31,639 Speaker 2: was Ross Douthought's opinion piece in The Wall and the 370 00:20:31,680 --> 00:20:35,879 Speaker 2: New York Times rather now his co conservative using my 371 00:20:35,920 --> 00:20:37,959 Speaker 2: finger quotes in the New York Times, they you know, 372 00:20:38,000 --> 00:20:41,120 Speaker 2: they're they're conservatives are not exactly. 373 00:20:42,920 --> 00:20:44,320 Speaker 1: The same as you get everywhere else. 374 00:20:44,400 --> 00:20:48,560 Speaker 2: But Brett Stevens was His piece was just absolutely this 375 00:20:48,640 --> 00:20:51,840 Speaker 2: was a disaster. Trump is a villain, et cetera, et cetera. 376 00:20:52,280 --> 00:20:54,840 Speaker 2: Ross Duthought wrote this piece, Trump and Vance are stripping 377 00:20:54,880 --> 00:20:57,679 Speaker 2: away foreign policy illusions, and I thought this was really interesting, 378 00:20:57,680 --> 00:20:58,280 Speaker 2: and we talked. 379 00:20:58,080 --> 00:21:00,720 Speaker 1: A little bit about this last week. Donald Trump. 380 00:21:00,760 --> 00:21:03,800 Speaker 2: Henry Kissinger remarked in twenty eighteen, maybe one of those 381 00:21:03,800 --> 00:21:06,720 Speaker 2: figures in history who appears from time to time to 382 00:21:06,760 --> 00:21:09,119 Speaker 2: mark the end of an era and force it to 383 00:21:09,160 --> 00:21:11,399 Speaker 2: give up its old pretenses. 384 00:21:11,960 --> 00:21:14,200 Speaker 1: Which I know that i'd ever heard that quote. 385 00:21:14,280 --> 00:21:16,679 Speaker 2: That general first term comment might as well be marching 386 00:21:16,760 --> 00:21:19,760 Speaker 2: orders for Trump's second term foreign policy, from policy and 387 00:21:19,800 --> 00:21:22,040 Speaker 2: speeches to Friday's blow up in the Oval Office. The 388 00:21:22,040 --> 00:21:25,359 Speaker 2: president of Ukraine, everything Trump is doing and saying, and 389 00:21:25,440 --> 00:21:28,600 Speaker 2: everything is Vice President is saying and doing is ruthlessly 390 00:21:28,600 --> 00:21:32,080 Speaker 2: stripping away pretenses in the United States, around the United States, 391 00:21:32,119 --> 00:21:32,800 Speaker 2: and around the world. 392 00:21:32,800 --> 00:21:36,080 Speaker 1: And he gives some examples. Here you go, a pretense. 393 00:21:36,040 --> 00:21:38,880 Speaker 2: The United States is capable of playing the hegemonic role 394 00:21:38,880 --> 00:21:42,639 Speaker 2: that played twenty years ago, fully supporting democratic allies in 395 00:21:42,720 --> 00:21:46,080 Speaker 2: every region, standing ready to fight wars across multiple theaters, 396 00:21:46,240 --> 00:21:48,719 Speaker 2: refusing any compromise with authoritarianism. 397 00:21:49,040 --> 00:21:51,480 Speaker 1: The reality America is overstretched. 398 00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:55,240 Speaker 2: A more multipolar world requires making deals with unpleasant regimes, 399 00:21:55,320 --> 00:21:57,480 Speaker 2: and we need to recalibrate and retrench in ways that 400 00:21:57,480 --> 00:21:59,200 Speaker 2: will require much more of our. 401 00:21:59,080 --> 00:22:00,720 Speaker 1: Allies come in on that. 402 00:22:01,640 --> 00:22:03,919 Speaker 2: Well, Yeah, I had just read somewhere else, and I 403 00:22:03,920 --> 00:22:09,600 Speaker 2: was trying to find the citation that Ross is somebody 404 00:22:09,720 --> 00:22:14,399 Speaker 2: high in the administration's foreign policy whisperer, and he's very 405 00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:18,080 Speaker 2: big on what he just suggested Trump is doing. He 406 00:22:18,760 --> 00:22:22,320 Speaker 2: is cheerleading in that piece, even as he described well, 407 00:22:22,320 --> 00:22:24,920 Speaker 2: which fit, which fits in the thing we were talking 408 00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:27,840 Speaker 2: about earlier, about this grand bargain that might be working 409 00:22:27,880 --> 00:22:32,080 Speaker 2: behind the scenes with China, Taiwan, Greenland, rushie, all the 410 00:22:32,119 --> 00:22:35,760 Speaker 2: different things at one piece. Here's another pretense, a pretense 411 00:22:35,800 --> 00:22:38,920 Speaker 2: our European allies are strong nations and equal partners and 412 00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:42,399 Speaker 2: protecting the security of the world. The reality Europe has 413 00:22:42,440 --> 00:22:46,280 Speaker 2: been badly misgoverned. Its economic position is perilous, its demographic 414 00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:50,320 Speaker 2: situation is miserable, in its military capacities of atrophied, and 415 00:22:50,400 --> 00:22:52,920 Speaker 2: most of the chest thumping about a revival of European 416 00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:55,200 Speaker 2: power is empty talk and fantasy politics. 417 00:22:56,240 --> 00:22:59,160 Speaker 1: That is correct. Definitely, definitely think that's true. 418 00:22:59,359 --> 00:23:01,760 Speaker 2: You know, even the Rumsfeld way back in the day 419 00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:04,439 Speaker 2: was hinting toward that with his old europe talk. 420 00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:07,160 Speaker 1: You know, it's not what it used to be, all right. 421 00:23:08,560 --> 00:23:12,120 Speaker 2: I've been fairly staunchly in favor of helping Ukraine defeat Russia, 422 00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:15,240 Speaker 2: not the idiotic half measures of the Biden administration. You know, 423 00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:17,719 Speaker 2: I'm on the records having said that, but I was 424 00:23:17,960 --> 00:23:20,520 Speaker 2: reading it might have been a journal I can't remember 425 00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:25,359 Speaker 2: Europe to forge new piece plan, it's going to be 426 00:23:25,840 --> 00:23:29,280 Speaker 2: lean much more heavily on European power and prestige and 427 00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:29,840 Speaker 2: the rest of it. 428 00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:31,879 Speaker 1: And I read that and it just it struck me 429 00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:32,719 Speaker 1: as pathetic. 430 00:23:34,119 --> 00:23:37,840 Speaker 2: I mean, just just sad because they don't have the 431 00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:43,320 Speaker 2: capacity to influence events practically at all. Well that's that's 432 00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:47,080 Speaker 2: an overstatement, but they don't have much capacity to do that. 433 00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:49,480 Speaker 2: It was just it was exactly what ross do thought, 434 00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:53,920 Speaker 2: was just talking about faded powers still shining up their 435 00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:57,639 Speaker 2: metals and putting on their moth edn you know, uniforms 436 00:23:57,640 --> 00:24:01,000 Speaker 2: of significance. And by the way, this end of an 437 00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:03,960 Speaker 2: era and doing away with old pretenses. I've had to 438 00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:06,080 Speaker 2: do it in my own life a few times. It's 439 00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:11,200 Speaker 2: not a pleasant experience. It's not without its bumps. Whenever 440 00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:13,840 Speaker 2: you owed, indeed, whenever you have to do that well. 441 00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:17,760 Speaker 2: And I'm presuming that the people in your personal life 442 00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:19,960 Speaker 2: that you're describing were not armed to the teeth with 443 00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:21,000 Speaker 2: advanced weaponry. 444 00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:23,080 Speaker 1: Right, another pretense. 445 00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:26,320 Speaker 2: With enough military aid and moral support, the Ukrainians can 446 00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:29,439 Speaker 2: roll back the Russians, secure their pre war borders, and 447 00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:30,480 Speaker 2: eventually join NATO. 448 00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:32,640 Speaker 1: The reality the war is stalemated. 449 00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:35,199 Speaker 2: There's no path to the Ukrainian victory short of a 450 00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:38,399 Speaker 2: direct American intervention, which ain't gonna happen. Some kind of 451 00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:42,680 Speaker 2: negotiated settlement is inevitable. NATO membership was never in the cards, 452 00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:46,680 Speaker 2: and there's value in speaking more openly about uncomfortable realities. 453 00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:48,639 Speaker 2: People need to know that the world is not what 454 00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:51,120 Speaker 2: it was in two thousand or even in twenty twelve. 455 00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:53,199 Speaker 2: They need to understand that the kind of issues that 456 00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:57,199 Speaker 2: Jade Vance raised in its controversial speech in Europe about 457 00:24:57,560 --> 00:24:59,679 Speaker 2: free speech and how they need to step up to 458 00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:00,520 Speaker 2: the place and their. 459 00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:02,880 Speaker 1: Native support and all that sort of stuff is real. 460 00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:05,800 Speaker 2: And people need to understand that the armiscist that the 461 00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:09,440 Speaker 2: Trump administration seems to want to negotiate with Russia may 462 00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:11,480 Speaker 2: not look all that different from the endgame that would 463 00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:14,359 Speaker 2: have developed on a democratic president. It would just taken longer. 464 00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:20,040 Speaker 2: And I think that's almost certainly true. Yeah, more death 465 00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:20,560 Speaker 2: and destruction. 466 00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:21,640 Speaker 1: I see, I can't. 467 00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:24,320 Speaker 2: I have trouble not getting backtracked to the conversation. I 468 00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:27,640 Speaker 2: don't like the way JD and Trump presented a lot 469 00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:30,200 Speaker 2: of this stuff to you. I think they put Zelensky 470 00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:34,159 Speaker 2: in an impossible position. How could you sit there and 471 00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:36,960 Speaker 2: get lectured about your own people dying? 472 00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:39,440 Speaker 1: I would I might have thrown punches. 473 00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:45,280 Speaker 2: I found that aspect of it sickening, literally sickening. Yes, 474 00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:51,240 Speaker 2: you don't understand. I don't understand. I don't understand what's 475 00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:52,880 Speaker 2: going on here. You have many funerals. 476 00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:56,520 Speaker 1: I've been to you. Any mangled children I've seen being 477 00:25:56,600 --> 00:25:59,640 Speaker 1: yelled at? Your people are dying? Yeah, I know, I'm 478 00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:02,160 Speaker 1: where of that. Yeah, there's you know. 479 00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:07,480 Speaker 2: That's that's why I am so annoyed, exhausted by the whole. 480 00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:10,399 Speaker 2: Trump's one hundred percent right all the time in a 481 00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:13,399 Speaker 2: saint or He's the new hitler and a villain. And 482 00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:17,600 Speaker 2: even if he advocates something as clearly good as opening 483 00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:21,240 Speaker 2: the schools, I'm against it. And if he says the 484 00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:24,560 Speaker 2: bat virus came out of Wuhan, I'm going to stand 485 00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:28,320 Speaker 2: up for Chinese communists. I mean, whether trump ophelia or 486 00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:31,520 Speaker 2: Trumpophobia are both just so. 487 00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:34,720 Speaker 1: Dumb wears me out. 488 00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:39,720 Speaker 2: So it is Rossterusat's a column there in the main 489 00:26:40,560 --> 00:26:44,439 Speaker 2: on the button. Is he just you know, is he 490 00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:46,720 Speaker 2: describing reality? And we need to adjust to it and 491 00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:49,760 Speaker 2: realize the old world is moving away, blah blah blah. Okay, 492 00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:54,560 Speaker 2: all right, super, but does that mean that that meeting 493 00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:59,359 Speaker 2: was not ugly and unnecessarily just bullying and nasty and 494 00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:01,600 Speaker 2: a bad look. I will close with this couple of 495 00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:04,280 Speaker 2: paragraphs about that, right after we tell you about Simply 496 00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:07,199 Speaker 2: Safe and why you should get this at home. 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Free that simplysafe dot 515 00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:03,680 Speaker 2: com sah armstrong. There's no safe like simply safe. So 516 00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:05,159 Speaker 2: I'll try to wrap this up fast because I want 517 00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:06,560 Speaker 2: to get to mail bag and hear what people had 518 00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:08,480 Speaker 2: to say about all the stuff that happened over the weekend. 519 00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:11,480 Speaker 2: But so after Ross Duthought just said, you know, Trump's 520 00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:14,119 Speaker 2: just ushering in reality, which I think he agrees with. 521 00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:17,119 Speaker 2: I agree with their here's a little he could have 522 00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:20,560 Speaker 2: handled it better. Pretense in foreign policy is not always 523 00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:22,679 Speaker 2: the same thing as self deception. It's also just a 524 00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:26,600 Speaker 2: form of being polite, of circling uncomfortable subjects and making 525 00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:29,120 Speaker 2: countries that are in your debt or whom you need 526 00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:32,400 Speaker 2: to strong arm feel like they're friends and not just subjects. 527 00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:35,719 Speaker 2: It's a way to give foreign leaders space to do 528 00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:38,480 Speaker 2: what you want them to do while they are also 529 00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:42,280 Speaker 2: handled their own domestic audiences, making sure that you aren't 530 00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:46,400 Speaker 2: accidentally empowering parties hostile to your policies. Most of the 531 00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:48,560 Speaker 2: foreign policy team around Trump, so far as I can tell, 532 00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:52,680 Speaker 2: imagines itself, doing what realist Republican presidents like Dwight Eisenhower 533 00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:55,320 Speaker 2: and Richard Nixon have done in the past, matching means 534 00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:58,000 Speaker 2: and ends, accepting lesser evils to avoid greater ones, and 535 00:28:58,080 --> 00:29:01,560 Speaker 2: delivering necessary shock therapy for a system of alliances that 536 00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:05,040 Speaker 2: needs it. But those realist presidents were also extremely fluent 537 00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:08,440 Speaker 2: in the language of diplomacy. They could wax idealistic when 538 00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:11,160 Speaker 2: the situation called for it, speak smoothly even when they 539 00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:14,360 Speaker 2: are acting ruthlessly, and settle allies down as well as 540 00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:17,800 Speaker 2: trigger them. Trump does not speak diplomatically and never will. 541 00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:20,640 Speaker 2: But his first term foreign policy succeeded with the president 542 00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:23,600 Speaker 2: playing the heavy while his appointees offered normalcy. 543 00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:26,280 Speaker 1: His second term to date needs more of that balance. 544 00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:29,960 Speaker 2: Someone to twist arms and someone to smooth feathers, someone 545 00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:32,800 Speaker 2: to speak frankly, and someone to keep the frankest truth 546 00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:33,920 Speaker 2: telling off camera. 547 00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:37,760 Speaker 1: I would say that is true. 548 00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:41,000 Speaker 2: He did have some well of those kind of diplomats 549 00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:44,240 Speaker 2: that can kind of massage things along with his blunt talk. 550 00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:47,840 Speaker 1: There was no massaging anything on Friday. 551 00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:54,760 Speaker 2: Because in international relations, in the life of a nation, 552 00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:59,960 Speaker 2: the deal today is important, but how people feel of 553 00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:02,240 Speaker 2: and what happens the next time, and the next time 554 00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:06,160 Speaker 2: and the next time really matters. You can't, you know, 555 00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:08,560 Speaker 2: stick a knife in somebody's hand and make them sign 556 00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:11,400 Speaker 2: a document and say, there we go. It's all settled 557 00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:13,640 Speaker 2: down because you're gonna need them or want them or 558 00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:18,040 Speaker 2: something down the road. Yeah, if you've ever have been 559 00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:21,040 Speaker 2: a boss or in a situation like that, walking people 560 00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:23,760 Speaker 2: toward the decision you want them to make is much 561 00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:26,680 Speaker 2: better than just forcing someone to do it, or as 562 00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:30,600 Speaker 2: a parent or a spouse. Yeah, perfect example. Yeah, anyway, 563 00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:32,160 Speaker 2: we got to get the mailbag that's coming up. You 564 00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:34,560 Speaker 2: can always comment anytime you want text line four one, 565 00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:41,680 Speaker 2: two nine five KFTC. Why is it considered a scandal 566 00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:43,840 Speaker 2: if you look disappointed if you didn't win. 567 00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:46,760 Speaker 1: Isn't that the normal? Shouldn't you be hoping you won 568 00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:49,440 Speaker 1: and be disappointed if you didn't win. Oh No, you've 569 00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:51,560 Speaker 1: got to be gracious and happy for the people. I'm 570 00:30:51,560 --> 00:30:52,720 Speaker 1: so happy for you. 571 00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:56,840 Speaker 2: One more reason I hate Hollywood, well pointed out, here's 572 00:30:56,840 --> 00:31:00,280 Speaker 2: your freedom loving quota today, beginning a series from Teddy Roselt. 573 00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:05,640 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, no, nation deserves to exist if it permits 574 00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:06,480 Speaker 2: itself to lose. 575 00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:08,920 Speaker 1: The stern and virile virtues, and this. 576 00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:10,920 Speaker 2: Without regard to whether the loss is due to the 577 00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:14,840 Speaker 2: growth of a heartless and self absorbing commercialism, to prolonged 578 00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:17,920 Speaker 2: indulgence in luxury and soft, effortless ease, or to the 579 00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:22,640 Speaker 2: deification of a warped and twisted sentimentality. In other words, 580 00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:26,880 Speaker 2: if a nation stops being a hard ass, it will crumble. 581 00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:28,960 Speaker 1: If you lose the manly. 582 00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:33,760 Speaker 2: Virtues and womanly of a nation, it does not deserve 583 00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:40,600 Speaker 2: to exist. Speak softly, carry a big stick, center mailbag. 584 00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:44,000 Speaker 1: Drops no mail bag at armstrong and geddy dot com. 585 00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:44,880 Speaker 1: I have not. 586 00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:51,560 Speaker 2: Stacked these emails in any particular order. They are all 587 00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:58,120 Speaker 2: about the explosive White House meeting on Friday, and it's 588 00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:00,440 Speaker 2: not enough data to really form an idea of what 589 00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:02,840 Speaker 2: you good folks think. But I thought it was interesting 590 00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:07,560 Speaker 2: the variety of perspectives. Having said that, Jay and San Jose, California, well, 591 00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:10,360 Speaker 2: it's clear Zlinsky is not a seasoned diplomat. The main 592 00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:13,480 Speaker 2: issue is US security guarantees. He's been willing to trade 593 00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:18,160 Speaker 2: mineral wealth for reconstruction continued arming of his military and security. 594 00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:20,400 Speaker 2: Was a mistake for him to bring up US security 595 00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:22,040 Speaker 2: guarantees in that setting. 596 00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:23,640 Speaker 3: Now. 597 00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:28,400 Speaker 2: The New York Post says that the Democrats, some Democrats put. 598 00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:30,320 Speaker 1: Him up to that. You know, you need to challenge him. 599 00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:33,880 Speaker 2: Don't let them get away with not giving the security guarantees. 600 00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:35,840 Speaker 2: And man, they let him down a bad road. If 601 00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:40,840 Speaker 2: that's what happened, Yeah, we'll dig into that later. Jim says, 602 00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:43,760 Speaker 2: I officially regret my vote. That was a calculated and 603 00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:46,680 Speaker 2: premeditated ambush of Zelensky. It was hard to watch, it 604 00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:49,040 Speaker 2: was painful to watch. It was sad to watch. I 605 00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:51,960 Speaker 2: officially regret my vote because of it. Donald Trump is 606 00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:54,280 Speaker 2: as mentally unfit for office as Joe Biden, but in 607 00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:57,000 Speaker 2: a different way. And he says, we're Americans. We support 608 00:32:57,000 --> 00:32:58,720 Speaker 2: freedom more than anything else. That's who we are and 609 00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:01,360 Speaker 2: that's what makes our country so great. Then he goes 610 00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:04,680 Speaker 2: into some of the horrors of the Ukrainian War, Ukrainian 611 00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:08,200 Speaker 2: men captured or systematically tortured, forced to fight against their 612 00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:11,560 Speaker 2: own countrymen, zero chances survival, thousands of children ripped away 613 00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:14,320 Speaker 2: from their families, now being institutionalized in Russia. 614 00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:15,000 Speaker 1: Goes on and on. 615 00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:17,760 Speaker 2: Man when Trump said to Zelensky, look at the hatred 616 00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:18,640 Speaker 2: he has for putin. 617 00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:20,520 Speaker 1: How can we possibly make a deal with the guy 618 00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:22,680 Speaker 1: has this kind of hatred for Putin? How would you 619 00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:24,280 Speaker 1: not have hatred for Putin? 620 00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:30,000 Speaker 2: I know that's utterly insane to say that, and yet 621 00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:31,920 Speaker 2: on a lot of you know, the other aspects of 622 00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:34,800 Speaker 2: this they've talked about, like Marco Rubio and Ross Duthat's column. 623 00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:40,240 Speaker 2: Just now, Yeah, you're right. Anyway, moving along, Oh, let's 624 00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:43,680 Speaker 2: see uh B Rights guy's Friday's meeting in the White 625 00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:46,040 Speaker 2: House brings to mind the old adage big men are 626 00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:51,600 Speaker 2: hard on themselves, small men are hard on others. Okay, 627 00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:56,840 Speaker 2: let's see John Wrights. I voted for Trump. I don't 628 00:33:56,840 --> 00:33:58,360 Speaker 2: regret it and still support a lot of what he 629 00:33:58,360 --> 00:34:00,480 Speaker 2: wants to do. But watching a man who actively avoided 630 00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:03,360 Speaker 2: the military and a sidekick who had a non combat 631 00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:07,440 Speaker 2: political resume building role in the military both attacking demean 632 00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:10,160 Speaker 2: a president fighting for a goddamn life of his country 633 00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:11,680 Speaker 2: and democracy was disgusting. 634 00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:13,879 Speaker 1: It appeared to me that JD. 635 00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:15,960 Speaker 2: Vance forced a shouting match so that we could score 636 00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:19,439 Speaker 2: bounty brownie points with Trump. I don't get that role 637 00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:25,040 Speaker 2: at all. That's surprising to me. I'm surprised Trump's cool JD. 638 00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:25,959 Speaker 1: Vance like. 639 00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:29,960 Speaker 2: Taking a role in how far things are going to 640 00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:32,880 Speaker 2: go new I'll decide how far we're gonna go. 641 00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:34,600 Speaker 1: You just sit there and watch. You're the vice president. 642 00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:36,960 Speaker 2: If we're gonna brow be to foreign leader on camera, 643 00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:38,960 Speaker 2: that's going to be me doing it and figuring out 644 00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:42,239 Speaker 2: how fight it's gonna go. Yeah, I would agree. At 645 00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:44,399 Speaker 2: the same time, though, as we said earlier, the idea 646 00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:47,680 Speaker 2: of a foreign leader coming and lecturing our president on 647 00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:53,040 Speaker 2: camera is highly improper, highly so. 648 00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:55,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, and again there's. 649 00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:59,120 Speaker 2: A lot of good and bad, you know, admirable and 650 00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:01,239 Speaker 2: not admirable on all sides. Yeah, there's a great piece 651 00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:04,000 Speaker 2: in the National Review about how Ozelensky should have handled 652 00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:05,759 Speaker 2: this and how he screwed up, and we'll get to 653 00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:13,000 Speaker 2: that later. Yeah, let's see how about this, Jim says, 654 00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:15,160 Speaker 2: I've been with Ukraine from day one, hate the Russians 655 00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:17,279 Speaker 2: in the invasion, but there's been no movement of the 656 00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:19,520 Speaker 2: lines in the war for over a year. Trump's main 657 00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:21,960 Speaker 2: point is that time is now being wasted by Ukraine 658 00:35:22,080 --> 00:35:23,720 Speaker 2: hoping some grand breakthrough will occur. 659 00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:24,319 Speaker 1: It will not. 660 00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:27,960 Speaker 2: Also, Ukraine has a weight on us around our neck, 661 00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:31,200 Speaker 2: and instead we could get dragged into something. I am 662 00:35:31,239 --> 00:35:33,560 Speaker 2: all for the real politic of beating Putin, but Trump 663 00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:37,000 Speaker 2: has his eye on a bigger picture. Yes, Putin's a 664 00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:39,120 Speaker 2: war criminal, but it's all under the bridge at this point. 665 00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:41,960 Speaker 2: In other words, let's stop screwing around and get to 666 00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:43,279 Speaker 2: peace so people stop dying. 667 00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:49,160 Speaker 1: I get that you got a massage that. 668 00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:53,080 Speaker 2: Though I would agree, you know, there are plenty of 669 00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:57,360 Speaker 2: examples in history of the right thing being done in 670 00:35:57,400 --> 00:36:02,160 Speaker 2: the wrong way that happens. That whole thing of Zelensky 671 00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:05,640 Speaker 2: wanting to continue to fight reminds me of a line 672 00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:09,960 Speaker 2: from Gladiator when they about to destroy yet another tribe 673 00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:13,440 Speaker 2: that they want to take their land, and friend of 674 00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:16,600 Speaker 2: Russell Crow says, why don't people understand when they're defeated? 675 00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:20,560 Speaker 2: And Russell Crow says to him, would you would? I? Yeah, 676 00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:22,000 Speaker 2: It's easier said than done. 677 00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:24,839 Speaker 1: Right. We got a lot more on this, and we'd 678 00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:25,440 Speaker 1: love to hear from you. 679 00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:27,799 Speaker 2: We're getting some interesting texts for one, five, two, nine, 680 00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:30,640 Speaker 2: five KFTC. 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