Speaker 1: Countdown with Keith Olderman is a production of iHeartRadio. I
Speaker 1: did not see this coming. If JD. Vance and Trump
Speaker 1: and their campaign had not been terrified of fact checking,
Speaker 1: We're not enraged by fact checking. We're not enraged by facts.
Speaker 1: If none of that were true, last night's vice presidential
Speaker 1: debate would not have been headlined by Vance whining about
Speaker 1: and yelling about and finally having his mic actually cut
Speaker 1: because he was angry and yelled at the moderators over
Speaker 1: fact checking.
Speaker 2: Thank you, governor, and just to clarify for our viewers, Springfield,
Speaker 2: Ohio does have a large number of Haitian migrants who
Speaker 2: have legal status, temporary protectives.
Speaker 3: Well more, Thank you, senator.
Speaker 2: We had so much to get to.
Speaker 1: I think it's.
Speaker 2: Important turn out of the egonomy.
Speaker 1: Thing, Margaret. The rules were that you got a fact check.
Speaker 1: The rules were you guys weren't gonna fact check. We
Speaker 1: actually saw one of the great cliches of American culture
Speaker 1: spring to life. It was my understanding that there would
Speaker 1: be no math. Still resonating often attributed to incumbent President
Speaker 1: Gerald Ford, even believed to be one of the reasons
Speaker 1: he lost a debate and an election to Jimmy Carter
Speaker 1: forty eight years ago. Ford, of course never said that
Speaker 1: it was chevy Chase portraying Ford on Saturday Night Live
Speaker 1: on September eighteenth, nineteen seventy six. But when JD. Vance
Speaker 1: did that last night, it was my understanding that there
Speaker 1: would be no fact checking. That wasn't chevy Chase, that
Speaker 1: wasn't bowhen Yang or anybody else portraying Vance. It was
Speaker 1: Vance himself. And it's how he managed to lose a
Speaker 1: debate in which Tim Walls came out of the gate
Speaker 1: so nervous that for a while I was having a
Speaker 1: little first debate. PTSD. Vance also lost this debate because
Speaker 1: when asked about whether he would be the final voice
Speaker 1: in the room approving an Israeli preemptive strike on Iran,
Speaker 1: the first question of the debate, the most topical question
Speaker 1: of the debate, he somehow managed to say, never mind
Speaker 1: the Middle East. I'll get to that in a moment.
Speaker 1: But first, my name is James D. Bowman. No, I'm
Speaker 1: Jimmy Hamill, No, I'm J. D. Bantz. Well, whoever the
Speaker 1: hell I am. I'm here to sell you some Amway products.
Speaker 2: Would you support or oppose a preemptive strike by Israel
Speaker 2: on Iran.
Speaker 4: You have two minutes, so Margot, I want to answer
Speaker 4: the question. First of all, thanks Governor, thanks to CBS
Speaker 4: for hosting the debate, and thanks most importantly the American
Speaker 4: people who are watching this evening and caring enough about
Speaker 4: this country to pay attention to this vice presidential debate.
Speaker 1: I want to answer the question, but.
Speaker 4: I want to actually give an introduction to myself a
Speaker 4: little bit, as I recognize a lot of Americans don't
Speaker 4: know who either one of us are. I was raised
Speaker 4: in a working class family. My mother acquired food assistance
Speaker 4: for periods of her life.
Speaker 1: My grandmother virtually everything Tim Walls said was substantial and
Speaker 1: about policy and about facts, and virtually everything JD. Vance
Speaker 1: said and did sounded like an infomercial. Occasionally that worked,
Speaker 1: but he continually side eyed the camera and by extension,
Speaker 1: the viewer, and that probably would have been the burn
Speaker 1: he thought it was going to be if each knowing
Speaker 1: glance each time he tried his version of the Sarah
Speaker 1: pale and wink, it didn't emphasize the fact that he
Speaker 1: was wearing eyeliner again. And my god, it is polite
Speaker 1: to address by name the person asking you a question,
Speaker 1: but Dvance did it so often and so phonally that
Speaker 1: if you had Vance saying well Nora or yes Margaret
Speaker 1: on your drinking bingo card, you are still unconscious. For
Speaker 1: the first ten fifteen minutes the debate was a time
Speaker 1: or maybe Vance was ahead. This was largely because for
Speaker 1: that span it was entirely not a vice presidential debate.
Speaker 1: It was a second presidential debate, but by proxy. Don't
Speaker 1: get me wrong, Walls managed to do it too. He
Speaker 1: took a dozen bites out of Trump. He pivoted on
Speaker 1: the Iran question to how many Trump advisors insist Trump
Speaker 1: should never be let near a crisis like this one Again,
Speaker 1: he threw Vance's anti Trump quote against him. He said,
Speaker 1: a nearly eighty year old Donald Trump talking about crowd
Speaker 1: sizes is not what we need in this moment. He
Speaker 1: quoted Trump's failure in Iran. He quoted Trump's dismissal of
Speaker 1: injuries to US servicemen in Iran as headaches, a comment
Speaker 1: that Trump made just hours earlier. Walls referenced Trump and
Speaker 1: tweets referenced how climate change will give you more beachfront
Speaker 1: property according to Trump. He scored by noting the bribes
Speaker 1: Trump took from oil executives at Mari Lago, he scored
Speaker 1: with Mexico paying for the wall, and especially with Trump
Speaker 1: sinking the bipartisan border deal. Walls reminded the audience that
Speaker 1: Vance and Trump had said, scientists don't know what they're
Speaker 1: talking about, Economists don't know what they're talking about. Authorities
Speaker 1: don't know what they're talking about. And Vance took debate
Speaker 1: and insisted Trump believes in common sense, not experts. The
Speaker 1: problem is that as smooth as Walls was, what he
Speaker 1: was trying to defend ultimately was still Trump, and it
Speaker 1: was putting lipstick on it. It was so much Vance
Speaker 1: defending Trump, so much Vance attacking Harris. It was exhausting.
Speaker 1: At one point, as Vance literally referred to our borders
Speaker 1: are kamala Harris, he pointed at Tim Walls, I hate
Speaker 1: to tell you, Senator, that's not Kamala Harris. But the
Speaker 1: longer that debate went on and the more topics were
Speaker 1: addressed and in greater depth, the more Walls warmed to
Speaker 1: the process, and I think the more the audience warmed
Speaker 1: to him when it stopped being a proxy fight and
Speaker 1: started being about Vance and Walls. Vance didn't have anybody
Speaker 1: to talk about anymore. Vance complained about fact checking, Walls
Speaker 1: quoted the Bible about what we do for the least
Speaker 1: among us, and then he offered my pro tip for
Speaker 1: the day, My pro tip for the day. As well
Speaker 1: as those things resonated. Walls did miss several opportunities to
Speaker 1: bury Vance on the subject of Springfield, Ohio, including a
Speaker 1: moment when Vance insisted millions of illegal immigrants were taking
Speaker 1: over homes in Springfield, Ohio. Instead, he laid Vance skate
Speaker 1: on that, just as certainly Walls danced and effectively, I
Speaker 1: might add around the conflict between where he was and
Speaker 1: where he has said or implied he was during the
Speaker 1: Tiedenman Square uprising in China in nineteen eighty nine. Vance
Speaker 1: could have crushed him then. Instead, for some reason, he
Speaker 1: changed topics to something he had memorized. What Vance and
Speaker 1: the Republicans will say was their victory in this debate,
Speaker 1: and it will resonate because it's not entirely untrue, is
Speaker 1: that Vance's primary job was to sane wash Trump for
Speaker 1: people who are not paying attention or who are only
Speaker 1: getting the sanitized versions of Trump. In the New York times,
Speaker 1: Vance seemed perhaps wrong, but definitely reasonable. Frankly, Vance did
Speaker 1: not seem likely to stab you, only to pick your pocket.
Speaker 1: Noting that CBS News largely steered out of its ethical skid,
Speaker 1: and while this was not the best of the debates,
Speaker 1: it was twice as good as CNN's disaster. There is
Speaker 1: one last point to both of their credits. Unlike Trump
Speaker 1: in every debate he's ever done, they got two issues,
Speaker 1: they got two guns, They got to January sixth, Vance
Speaker 1: was wrong about all these things. But when Vance said
Speaker 1: the only thing that Trump did wrong was that the
Speaker 1: Russians bought five hundred thousand dollars worth of Facebook ads
Speaker 1: promoting Trump, walls picking his jaw off the floor, answered
Speaker 1: January sixth was not Facebook ads, and he managed to
Speaker 1: add of Mike Pence's refusal to overthrow the election on
Speaker 1: Trump's behalf. That's why Mike Pence isn't on this stage.
Speaker 5: I see a candidate out there who refused and now
Speaker 5: again and this, I'm pretty shocked by this.
Speaker 3: He lost the election.
Speaker 5: This is not a debate, It's not anything anywhere other
Speaker 5: than in Donald Trump's world. Because look, when Mike Pence
Speaker 5: made that decision, to certify that election. That's why Mike
Speaker 5: Pence isn't on this stage. What I'm concerned about is
Speaker 5: where is the firewall? With Donald Trump.
Speaker 1: On the other hand, the governor did fail to take
Speaker 1: the priceless advice of Democratic strategist Ali Samarco, quoting all
Speaker 1: Tim Wallas has to say tonight is I heard you're
Speaker 1: here because the last guy got hung up and it's
Speaker 1: over unquote. Lastly, when they addressed gun violence, Vance blamed
Speaker 1: it exclusively on mental health and soft targets in schools
Speaker 1: and insisted the answer was better door control. And that
Speaker 1: was when Tim Walls gave the answer of the night.
Speaker 5: This idea of stigmatizing mental health. Just because you have
Speaker 5: a mental health issue doesn't mean you're violent. And I
Speaker 5: think what we end up doing is we start looking
Speaker 5: for escapeboat. Sometimes it just is the guns. It's just
Speaker 5: the guns.
Speaker 1: A couple of debate postscripts, or maybe more accurately, debate
Speaker 1: prescripts in a story in which the cumulative IQ of
Speaker 1: everybody involved is still in less than three digits total.
Speaker 1: Trump went on Kelly an Conway's Fox Show and said,
Speaker 1: of course Vance would beat Tim Walls last night because quote,
Speaker 1: he's going up against a moron, a total moron, how
Speaker 1: she picked him his unbelievable unquote. And then having heard this,
Speaker 1: Kellyanne Conway went on Jesse Waters Fox Show and staid,
Speaker 1: of the debate, quote, I have high expectations about J. D. Waltz. Well,
Speaker 1: I was still trying to figure out if she meant JD.
Speaker 1: Vance or Tim Walls or an entirely different other person
Speaker 1: whose last name is Waltz, like in the last Waltz.
Speaker 1: Kelly and Cohn Job came right back and said, quote,
Speaker 1: the mainstream media and other Democrats did a really stupid
Speaker 1: thing with J. D. Waltz. They tried to drown him
Speaker 1: out in the first days after Trump picked him. So
Speaker 1: there you have it, your twenty twenty four Republican ticket
Speaker 1: per Kelly and Conway, Trump and J.
Speaker 3: D Waltz.
Speaker 1: Unless she meant the actor J. D. Walsh from Two
Speaker 1: and a Half Men or the late actor J. T.
Speaker 1: Walsh from Nixon and Good Morning Vietnam. And the bottom
Speaker 1: line here is it's Kelly Ann Conway. She could have
Speaker 1: meant anything, and sadly, one of the reasons we are
Speaker 1: in a world in which Kelly Ane Conway was not
Speaker 1: laughed out of Washington in the year two thousand and
Speaker 1: two is because the guard rails behind the guard rails
Speaker 1: beyond the original guard rails also failed. Back to the
Speaker 1: subject of fact checking, This was yesterday morning from Brian Stelter,
Speaker 1: one of the last two or three media news critics
Speaker 1: left alive. As the industry shrinks like a collapsing star.
Speaker 1: He and the others are supposed to be calling out
Speaker 1: cowardice in journalism. Instead, he turned the shrug emoji into
Speaker 1: written form, and he needed sixty four words to do it.
Speaker 1: Quoting facts unchecked. CBS News executives are signaling that Nora
Speaker 1: O'Donnell and Margaret Brennan will not fact check flagrantly false
Speaker 1: claims made on stage. Well, that's a filthy, flagrant falsehood.
Speaker 1: The moderators will give the candidates the opportunity to fact
Speaker 1: check each other in real time. CBS Senior Vice president
Speaker 1: Claudia Milne told The New York Times, repeating what I
Speaker 1: wrote last month. Moderators are damned if they fact check,
Speaker 1: and damned if they don't. No, they aren't. No, they
Speaker 1: aren't doing your job as a journalist describing reality to
Speaker 1: your readers or viewers or newsletter recipients telling the truth,
Speaker 1: calling a lie a lie up up and down down,
Speaker 1: and then being threatened or abused for doing it. That
Speaker 1: is not the same as serving as nothing more than
Speaker 1: the debate timekeeper and the person who says we'll be
Speaker 1: right back, and as a result, jeopardizing freedom of the
Speaker 1: press and democracy itself. That is not damned if you do,
Speaker 1: and damned if you don't. It's just plain old damned. Meanwhile,
Speaker 1: back at the Looney Ranch, oh nothing, it's just Trump,
Speaker 1: who's actually responsible by commission and omission for the deaths
Speaker 1: of more than one million Americans because it is literally
Speaker 1: insane mishandling of COVID. It's just Trump accusing the vice
Speaker 1: president of murder and misidentifying the victim and conflating the
Speaker 1: victim and the perpetrator.
Speaker 5: I'm outraged that she let in the savage who raped
Speaker 5: and murdered Rachel Moran.
Speaker 2: Kamala let her in letter in she murdered him.
Speaker 3: In my opinion, Kamala murdered him. It's like she did,
Speaker 3: just like she had a gun in her hand.
Speaker 1: Wait, he said him, he said, Kamala murdered him. And
Speaker 1: Kamala Harris let her in the victim was a woman,
Speaker 1: U syphilitic menace. Steal yourself for more of this. It
Speaker 1: is just the beginning. I know you heard this quote yesterday.
Speaker 1: We should all memorize it. Yale historian Tim Snyder. Trump
Speaker 1: is in the classic dictatorial position. He needs to die
Speaker 1: in bed holding all executive power to stay out of prison.
Speaker 1: This means that he will do whatever he can to
Speaker 1: gain power, and once in power, will do all that
Speaker 1: he can do to never let it go. This is
Speaker 1: a basic incentive structure which underlies everything else. It is
Speaker 1: entirely inconsistent with democracy. Please learn it. By the beginning
Speaker 1: of the new week, Trump continued yesterday to pretend he
Speaker 1: did something to alleviate post Helene distress in the South.
Speaker 1: There were actually stories reading he was first to visit
Speaker 1: the damage in person, and to note that he launched
Speaker 1: a gofund me that had raised more than one million dollars.
Speaker 1: Left out of each of these stories, though, the reality
Speaker 1: that he claims to be a multi billionaire. He rages
Speaker 1: when contradicted on this point, and he never stops boasting
Speaker 1: about how much money he has, and instead of going
Speaker 1: to George Jordan, North Carolina or anywhere else and giving
Speaker 1: away just some of his own money. He launched a
Speaker 1: go fund me to give away other people's money and
Speaker 1: take credit for it. Oh and guess what the gofund me.
Speaker 1: He didn't donate to it either. As to the origin
Speaker 1: of some of Trump's billions, hundreds of millions, some millions,
Speaker 1: surprising news from Senate Democrats, they did something about the
Speaker 1: egypt bribe scandal. The majority on the Judiciary Committee has
Speaker 1: now written to the watchdog the DOJ, the Inspector General,
Speaker 1: asking him to investigate whether Trump appointees quote interfered with
Speaker 1: and ultimately blocked the criminal probe into the findings of
Speaker 1: our intelligence agencies that the Egyptian government gave or sought
Speaker 1: to give Trump ten million dollars to boost his White
Speaker 1: House campaign eight years ago. This is good, boys, but
Speaker 1: you know you can also hold hearings. And one more
Speaker 1: Trump note, A group called the Crooked and Obscene Project
Speaker 1: has unveiled a giant marionette version of Dementia J. Trump.
Speaker 1: It will begin its tour of the United States on
Speaker 1: Apex Harbor Lane in Las Vegas. It is there right now,
Speaker 1: darkening the sky. They say he's naked, made out of
Speaker 1: rebar covered with foam and weighs approximately six thousand pounds
Speaker 1: eight that's a marionette. Based on that description, that sounds
Speaker 1: like him. And because I want you to be able
Speaker 1: to enjoy my unique, weird, unearthly position on the fringes
Speaker 1: of this next story as much frankly as I am,
Speaker 1: CNN reports. The latest in the RFK Junior Olivia Newsy
Speaker 1: story is she has sued her former fiance, Ryan Lizza
Speaker 1: of Politico, and in the filing, she says that the
Speaker 1: source of the leaks that got her suspended by New
Speaker 1: York Magazine for an undisclosed personal relationship with the pervioust
Speaker 1: of the Kennedys was Ryan of Politico. CNN quotes Livy
Speaker 1: in the suit filed this week as claiming that Liza
Speaker 1: quote explicitly threatened to make public personal information about me
Speaker 1: to destroy my life, career and reputation, a threat he
Speaker 1: has since carried out. CNN flesh this out a bit,
Speaker 1: you should excuse the expression. Quoting its report, Newsy said
Speaker 1: she believes Liza began his alleged harassment at the beginning
Speaker 1: of July as a way to black mail her back
Speaker 1: into a relationship with him and punish her when she
Speaker 1: wouldn't acquiesce. She said. By the next month, Liza had
Speaker 1: stolen a personal electronic device from her was hacking her devices,
Speaker 1: then anonymously shopping information about her to the media. Some
Speaker 1: of the information may have been doctored to hurt her more,
Speaker 1: Newsy alleged, and she believes Liza impersonated an anonymous campaign
Speaker 1: operative to give a political campaign information that would hurt
Speaker 1: her further. According to the court recads, Newsy was granted
Speaker 1: a temporary no contact order against Liza. The judge also
Speaker 1: signed off CNN reports on her request to have police
Speaker 1: accompany her when she attempts to get her possessions back
Speaker 1: from Liza. The couple had lived together within the last year.
Speaker 1: The court filing said, they are going to be cops.
Speaker 1: Did you say, I'm sorry, I have to go and
Speaker 1: I have to run to make sure I've got enough
Speaker 1: popcorn for the rest of this I will add only
Speaker 1: this detail to that headline, and the headline would be
Speaker 1: Newsy Doozy. Court gets up in Liza's Bizza over rfk's Riz.
Speaker 1: When Olivia and I lived together in New York and
Speaker 1: she still worked for The Daily Beast, she frequently trapped
Speaker 1: to DC on stories, and whenever she came back, she'd
Speaker 1: give me a big hug and say she was sorry
Speaker 1: for taking me for granted, because there was this creepy
Speaker 1: guy who stalked her every time she went to Washington.
Speaker 1: Do you know him? She'd ask? His name is Ryan?
Speaker 1: Liza shrug emoji? Also of interest here, Well, nothing, nothing
Speaker 1: compared to that obviously. Still, Pete Rose died Monday. People
Speaker 1: seem to think he's not in the Baseball Hall of
Speaker 1: Fame because he gambled on baseball while a player and
Speaker 1: while a manager, and while a player manager. Actually, they
Speaker 1: were just about to get beyond that, what with all
Speaker 1: the betting in baseball now seven years ago. They were
Speaker 1: about to let him in when that whole other thing
Speaker 1: came up, the whole other thing everybody has forgotten about,
Speaker 1: and almost no but he has mentioned since Pete Rose
Speaker 1: died the other thing where he admitted in the court
Speaker 1: documents that in the seventies, when he was married to
Speaker 1: his first wife, he also had a mistress and the
Speaker 1: mistress was fifteen years old. That's next. This is countdown.
Speaker 3: This is countdown with Keith Olberman, my crazy friend. There's
Speaker 3: a reason.
Speaker 1: The announcer today is Tony Kornheiser of ESPN, formerly of
Speaker 1: The Washington Post, still ahead of us on this edition
Speaker 1: of Countdown the Death of Pete Rose. That's not the
Speaker 1: reason I used to campaign against putting Pete Rose in
Speaker 1: Baseball's Hall of Fame. Then I campaigned in favor of
Speaker 1: putting him in Baseball's Hall of Fame. And then in
Speaker 1: twoenty seventeen, the little other thing happened. Like I said,
Speaker 1: that's when I started campaigning again for never putting him
Speaker 1: in Baseball's Hall of Fame. You may recall in nineteen
Speaker 1: eighty nine he'd been banned from baseball, and in twenty
Speaker 1: seventeen Pete Rose sued the investigator whose work led up
Speaker 1: to that banishment, and in discovery up popped this sworn
Speaker 1: deposition from a woman who, to quote the Hollywood Reporter,
Speaker 1: alleges that Rose had a relationship with her for several years,
Speaker 1: beginning before she turned sixteen. Rose acknowledged in court documents
Speaker 1: that he had sex with the woman, but thought she
Speaker 1: was sixteen at the time. When you admit to sex
Speaker 1: with a child, and your defense was, I thought she
Speaker 1: was sixteen. You'd done That's why he's not in the
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame and will never be in the Hall
Speaker 1: of fame. All this in depth in things I promised
Speaker 1: not to tell coming up first, there are still more
Speaker 1: new idiots to talk about. A rollicking addition of the
Speaker 1: daily roundup of the miss Grants, morons and Dunning Kruger
Speaker 1: effects better some meon's who constitute today's worst persons in
Speaker 1: the world. And this is why Tony Kornheiser, formerly of
Speaker 1: The Washington Post, is the announcer today the bronze worse
Speaker 1: the WNBA Players Association Terry Carmichael Jackson President. One player
Speaker 1: poked another player in the eye during a game. A
Speaker 1: reporter from USA Today asked the poker politely and specifically
Speaker 1: if it was deliberate or an accident. The player, to
Speaker 1: her credit, did not get angry, did not go all snark,
Speaker 1: but said hurting another player would never be part of
Speaker 1: her game. She was just reaching for the ball. The
Speaker 1: player and the reporter were both pros about it. There
Speaker 1: were no angry words, there were no complaints. But the
Speaker 1: injured player who got the finger in the eye was
Speaker 1: the rookie who put the WNBA on the map this year.
Speaker 1: Caitlin Clark, and the reporter was Christine Brennan, a fierce
Speaker 1: advocate for women's sports, such a veteran that when she
Speaker 1: joined The Washington Post alongside Tony Kornheiser, she had to
Speaker 1: respond not just accusations, but assumptions that she had gotten
Speaker 1: the job because she was sleeping with a Washington TV
Speaker 1: sportscaster and for reasons yet to be explained. The WNBA
Speaker 1: Players Association decided to respond to the extreme professionalism of
Speaker 1: Chris Brennan and the player who is such a pro
Speaker 1: I'm leaving her name out of this. Responded to this
Speaker 1: by slandering Christine Brennan, quoting a message on behalf of
Speaker 1: the one hundred and forty four that would be the
Speaker 1: players in the union to unprofessional members of the media
Speaker 1: like Christine Brennan, you are not fooling anyone. That so
Speaker 1: called interview in the name of journalism was a blatant
Speaker 1: attempt to bait a professional athlete into participating in a
Speaker 1: narrative that is false and designed to fuel racist, homophobic,
Speaker 1: and misogynistic vitriol on social media. You cannot hide behind
Speaker 1: your tenure instead of demonstrating the cornerstones of journalism, ethic
Speaker 1: like integrity, objectivity, and a fundamental commitment to truth. You
Speaker 1: have chosen to be indecent and downright insincere. You have
Speaker 1: abused your privileges and do not deserve the credentials issued
Speaker 1: to you. This is the statement of the Players Union,
Speaker 1: and you certainly are not entitled to any interviews with
Speaker 1: the members of this union or any other athlete in sport.
Speaker 1: Those credentials mean that you can ask anything, but they
Speaker 1: also mean that you know the difference between what you
Speaker 1: should and should not. We see you. Our relationship with
Speaker 1: the media is a delicate one, and we will continue
Speaker 1: to strengthen because the media is essential in growing the game.
Speaker 1: No one knows that better than we do. But the
Speaker 1: players are entitled to better. They are entitled to professionalism.
Speaker 1: We call on USA Today Network to review its principles
Speaker 1: of ethical conduct for newsrooms and address what we believe
Speaker 1: is a violation of several core principles, including seeking and
Speaker 1: reporting the truth. USA Today's Sports should explain why a
Speaker 1: reporter with Klee bias and ulterior motives was assigned to
Speaker 1: cover the league. We also urged the league to review
Speaker 1: its policies and take measures to prevent such issues protecting
Speaker 1: the integrity of the game at its players. Terry Carmichael Jackson,
Speaker 1: Executive Director WNBPA, Yes, congratulations, we may have reached actual
Speaker 1: equality in sports where the women athletes and their organizations
Speaker 1: can be as big a set of jerks and idiots
Speaker 1: and morons as male athletes. Perhaps we've even gone past
Speaker 1: equality to women being in the lead in these areas
Speaker 1: because they just trashed a woman who a mere thirty
Speaker 1: years ago was being thrown out of sports locker rooms
Speaker 1: because she was a woman, a woman who is one
Speaker 1: of the people, without whom the only professional opportunities for
Speaker 1: American women basketball stars in this country. The only opportunities
Speaker 1: would not be in this country. They would be in
Speaker 1: Russia still, or Europe or the Canary Islands. The WNBA
Speaker 1: and its Players Association must immediately apologize to Christine Brennan
Speaker 1: and WNBAPA President Terry Carmichael Jackson must resign or be fired.
Speaker 1: She just made an asshole out of herself and every
Speaker 1: one of her players. She's just set back her sport
Speaker 1: and the gains it has made in the last few years.
Speaker 1: If this is how the WNBPA is going to treat
Speaker 1: its most loyal most honored reporters. Frankly, all news organizations
Speaker 1: should boycott the WNBA, not even report the goddamn scores,
Speaker 1: and networks like ESPN that Carrie WNBA games should refuse
Speaker 1: to do so until the apology is made. The WNBA is,
Speaker 1: by doing a press release like this, fabricating an environment
Speaker 1: unsafe for media with exactly the same kind of deliberate
Speaker 1: targeting of reporters done by the likes of Donald fing Trump,
Speaker 1: and its history tells us that when a player's union
Speaker 1: attacks the media, its next target will be the fans
Speaker 1: it doesn't like. In other words, you and I are next.
Speaker 1: Chris Brennan might be on the Mount Rushmore of the
Speaker 1: builders of women's sports in this country, Terry Carmichael Jackson,
Speaker 1: executive director of the WNBPA, is a bully and a
Speaker 1: lawyer the runner up Leon, as Trump has called him.
Speaker 1: I'd love to know what's wrong with Elon Musk based
Speaker 1: on those profiles. My guest is he stoned. Look, he's
Speaker 1: a fascist, he's a nut job, he's unstable, and as
Speaker 1: somebody noted, all the spy movies of the sixties revolve
Speaker 1: around a crazy billionaire who has the rockets and all
Speaker 1: the communications systems and decides to take over the world. No,
Speaker 1: I expect you to die. Mister bond Elmo's latest problem
Speaker 1: is though, as he tries to take over the world,
Speaker 1: he's making an extraordinary number of really stupid mistakes. He
Speaker 1: has now posted one of these, right winger, I'm recording
Speaker 1: this in my car idiot videos, and he wrote with it,
Speaker 1: as this video describes, Trump supports women's rights far more
Speaker 1: than Kabala. The video shows a young woman with dead
Speaker 1: eyes and badly dyed hair who rambles on about how
Speaker 1: Kamala Harris has already been president? Is that true? Did
Speaker 1: I miss something? Am I coming out of a coma?
Speaker 1: Was she president already? She wasn't okay? And that Trump
Speaker 1: quote was already president? How many rights did you lose?
Speaker 1: I don't mean to tell you your business, ladies, not after
Speaker 1: that opening part of this segment, but a lot of them. Actually,
Speaker 1: a lot of rights have already been lost. The narrator
Speaker 1: is clearly unaware of the repeal of Roe v. Wade
Speaker 1: or the Trump planned to institute abortion bands wherever he
Speaker 1: can and punish the states where he can't. Leon put
Speaker 1: this out without really listening to it. Didn't he because
Speaker 1: Zempics but the worst our winner, Rob Schneider, idiot formerly
Speaker 1: on Saturday Night Live, and apparently he was funny during
Speaker 1: the audition. The basketball great to Kembe Mutumbo has died
Speaker 1: after a long and terrible fight against brain cancer. And
Speaker 1: Rob Schneider, who has gone over there to the fascist
Speaker 1: Nicket night world where they'll all pretend your career isn't
Speaker 1: over provided you support Trump, decided he had to say
Speaker 1: something about it. Schneider posted a video of the late
Speaker 1: beloved hoopstar mister Matumbo doing a video from Christmas of
Speaker 1: twenty twenty one, urging people to get the COVID shot
Speaker 1: so they could all get together, and he wrote above
Speaker 1: it rest in peace. I'm sure this is just another coincidence,
Speaker 1: but I took a pass on the JAB and I'm
Speaker 1: not going to let anyone I know and who will
Speaker 1: listen get it either. Well, there's this much to say
Speaker 1: about Rob Schneider. The one advantage he has is he
Speaker 1: never has to face the prospect of what Kembe Mtumbo
Speaker 1: had to face in brain cancer. Rob as they say,
Speaker 1: no pain, no gain, but no brain, no pain. Schneider
Speaker 1: two days worst person in the Land to the number
Speaker 1: one story on the countdown, and as promised yesterday, some
Speaker 1: thoughts on the passing of Pete Rose, and I wanted
Speaker 1: to take extra time to think about it because my
Speaker 1: thoughts about Pete Rose are all over the map, and
Speaker 1: through the history of my life, they are even further
Speaker 1: all over the map. For twenty years I campaigned against
Speaker 1: Pete Rose being in Baseball's Hall of Fame, and just
Speaker 1: after I had an epiphany that said, no, I think
Speaker 1: he should be in. Just after that came the scandal
Speaker 1: that proved that he had had an ongoing sexual relationship
Speaker 1: with an underage girl, and the Hall of Fame question
Speaker 1: became academic. I will say that this issue of Pete
Speaker 1: Rose and gambling, and Pete Rose and the all time
Speaker 1: hit record in baseball, the man who made more base
Speaker 1: hits than anybody else, the man who round out every
Speaker 1: ground ball and every flyball and every walk. The Pete
Speaker 1: Rose story really is summarized by the first thought I
Speaker 1: had when the news was announced Monday evening that he
Speaker 1: had died sometime during the day Monday. My thought was,
Speaker 1: what did he have a bet down on that Mets
Speaker 1: Braves game and it killed him? I knew Pete Rose
Speaker 1: enough to know that he would have appreciated that joke.
Speaker 1: He would not have appreciated the fact that he had
Speaker 1: died without being put into the Baseball Hall of Fame,
Speaker 1: because he said many times that he thought they were
Speaker 1: waiting for him to die before they would put him in.
Speaker 1: I don't know if he ever will go in. That
Speaker 1: issue of the underage well, what it was child rape
Speaker 1: will never go away. But that's why he's not in
Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame. I believe everything was turning for
Speaker 1: Pete Rose twy ten to twenty fifteen. He had gotten
Speaker 1: back into baseball. He was a commentator on Fox Sports,
Speaker 1: and particularly given the nature of Fox Sports and the
Speaker 1: nature of the decline in baseball commentary, especially on the
Speaker 1: national level, he was doing very well. And then came
Speaker 1: the story in twenty seventeen, and he had not been
Speaker 1: heard from since. It's ironic that baseball and gambling are
Speaker 1: now in bed together so frequently, so visibly, so positively,
Speaker 1: that what Pete Rose did while he managed and before
Speaker 1: that played for the Cincinnati Reds is seen almost as
Speaker 1: a series of misdemeanors. It's a little bit more than that.
Speaker 1: Pete Rose and let me explain this as briefly and
Speaker 1: not intricately as possible. Pete Rose gambled on some Cincinnati
Speaker 1: Reds baseball games while he was the manager of the
Speaker 1: team and in fact player and manager of the team,
Speaker 1: but he did not gamble on other Cincinnati Reds games.
Speaker 1: He was the first one to point out, even after
Speaker 1: all of the dirt about the gambling came out, that
Speaker 1: he never bet against his own team. That's the cardinal
Speaker 1: sin in sports. If you bet against your own team,
Speaker 1: why then you may have gone out there and tried
Speaker 1: to lose, in which case you are done. That's the
Speaker 1: whole premise of the nineteen nineteen World Series and the
Speaker 1: eight great players led by Shuelas Joe Jackson, who were
Speaker 1: never permitted to play again once their confessions and their
Speaker 1: trial ended the year after the nineteen nineteen World Series.
Speaker 1: Did That's not what Pete Rose was accused of, But
Speaker 1: in a way he did the passive aggressive version of that.
Speaker 1: Because if you are the manager of a baseball team
Speaker 1: and you are placing bat that's in thousands of dollars
Speaker 1: in amounts on some of the games. What about the
Speaker 1: games you chose not to bet on? Did you manage
Speaker 1: them differently, And after all, it is the manager who
Speaker 1: decides which pitcher is starting the game, which pitcher is
Speaker 1: coming in in the sixth inning, the game is five
Speaker 1: to two, your team is losing. Are you using your
Speaker 1: best relief pitcher in the seventh inning because you have
Speaker 1: a bet on the game, or are you saving him
Speaker 1: till tomorrow when you will have a bet on the game.
Speaker 1: That was the crux for me of why I could
Speaker 1: never support Pete Rose going into Baseball's Hall of Fame.
Speaker 1: As much as my experience with him personally was similar
Speaker 1: to what most people's was, he was very charming, he
Speaker 1: was very likable, and certainly you could talk about the nuances,
Speaker 1: subtleties and history of the game with Pete Rose as
Speaker 1: you could with few other players. He didn't just know
Speaker 1: everybody from his own era. He knew everybody who'd ever
Speaker 1: played Major League baseball, at least seemingly. He knew the
Speaker 1: details of the life of Ty Cobb, the man who
Speaker 1: he supplanted as the all time leader in hits. He
Speaker 1: knew about nineteenth century players, he knew about the original
Speaker 1: Cincinnati Red Stockings of eighteen sixty nine, and he was
Speaker 1: always fascinating and particularly if you were willing to pay him.
Speaker 1: He was always good for an anecdote and autograph a
Speaker 1: piece of memorabilia, which I'll circle back to in a moment,
Speaker 1: because when I was a teenager, I knew something was
Speaker 1: wrong with Pete Rose because of that issue of memorabilia.
Speaker 1: The other reason my mind changed on whether or not
Speaker 1: Rose should go to the Hall of Fame was, of course,
Speaker 1: the advent of the ped scandal, the performance enhancing drugs
Speaker 1: for steroids, and then the next wave of human growth hormone,
Speaker 1: and then what I presume has been going on behind
Speaker 1: the surface in baseball for a while, whatever came next. Unfortunately,
Speaker 1: those fans who, after too long painful no these guys
Speaker 1: are clean scandals has serious doubts that all these guys
Speaker 1: are clean. How can we ever be sure?
Speaker 3: Again?
Speaker 1: But that's another subject. My experience with Pete Rose was
Speaker 1: largely limited to the year nineteen eighty nine. I can
Speaker 1: see in my mind's eye the cover of the Sports
Speaker 1: Illustrated magazine in which the Rose scandal, which I had
Speaker 1: been hearing about behind the scenes for more than a decade, broke.
Speaker 1: I'm standing outside the Angels spring training facility, in Palm Springs, California,
Speaker 1: doing a live shot for my television station in Los
Speaker 1: Angeles from the parking lot of the library across the street,
Speaker 1: and there's the sports illustrated with his picture on it.
Speaker 1: The entirety of that year, from March of nineteen eighty
Speaker 1: nine through August twenty fourth, nineteen eighty nine was what's
Speaker 1: the latest in the Pete Rose scan. Finally, in August
Speaker 1: it seemed to have stalled, although there was clear evidence
Speaker 1: that they were trying to get rid of Pete Rose,
Speaker 1: and that he might be suspended or banished or fired
Speaker 1: as manager of the Cincinnati Reds, or something else would happen,
Speaker 1: or he would be indicted for tax evasion or a
Speaker 1: thousand rumors swirled. Finally, I had a couple of weeks
Speaker 1: of vacation coming to me, and I went back to
Speaker 1: New York. I was to leave for Los Angeles and
Speaker 1: return to my job, I believe on a Friday morning,
Speaker 1: Thursday afternoon, the story broke that Pete Rose was going
Speaker 1: to be suspended or banished by the Commissioner of Baseball,
Speaker 1: Bart Jimatti, actor Paul Jamatti's father. The next day, well,
Speaker 1: my flight was leaving the next day, so I postponed
Speaker 1: that and I went to that news conference, and I
Speaker 1: have never seen anything quite like the performance of Commissioner Jamatti,
Speaker 1: who was a baseball purist and believed in justice, and
Speaker 1: believed in fair play, and believed more than those things,
Speaker 1: he believed in baseball, and he was justice in baseball.
Speaker 1: And he managed to end Pete Rose's baseball career, whether
Speaker 1: Pete Rose knew that's what he was signing in the
Speaker 1: document that he signed or not. And I was in
Speaker 1: the crowd by sheer happenstance, sharing a crew with a
Speaker 1: reporter from Channel two in New York, using Channel two
Speaker 1: in New York's equipment for my report for Channel two
Speaker 1: in Los Angeles, and I remember thinking as I watched
Speaker 1: Bart Jimmatti in front of us, taking no questions but
Speaker 1: making a speech. And he was the former president of Yale.
Speaker 1: He could make a hell of a speech. And you
Speaker 1: know what his son can do, Bart Jimotti standing there,
Speaker 1: and I remember saying to the cameraman from the New
Speaker 1: York station, I have never heard or seen anybody more
Speaker 1: alive than the Commissioner of Baseball at this moment. He
Speaker 1: died one week later on vacation a chainsmoker, and he
Speaker 1: collapsed of a heart attack. One week later, one Friday,
Speaker 1: Pete Rose is being banned, and the end of that saga,
Speaker 1: as Jamati said that day, the story of mister Rose
Speaker 1: is now over. Then a week later, Jamati's life was
Speaker 1: extraordinary juxtaposition, very very sobering thing for a thirty year
Speaker 1: old sportscaster to contemplate. In any event, My next face
Speaker 1: to face experience with Pete Rose came in Cooperstown in
Speaker 1: the year two thousand and nine. I was up there
Speaker 1: with the broadcaster Tony Kubeck, who was going into the
Speaker 1: Baseball Hall of Fame and his family. I had been
Speaker 1: their favorite newscaster and a favorite sportscaster, and Tony Kubeck
Speaker 1: had been a favorite sportscaster of mine when he did
Speaker 1: the Baseball Game of the Week. And somehow Tony Kubeck's
Speaker 1: son invited me to be an honorary member of the
Speaker 1: family for the Hall of Fame week. And I went
Speaker 1: up there and luxuriated in this town and upstate New York,
Speaker 1: full of Victorian houses and what smelled like snow already coming,
Speaker 1: and it was July. Had a great time, had a blast,
Speaker 1: and there was Pete Rose. So I talked to him,
Speaker 1: and Pete Rose told me off the record that he
Speaker 1: was going to he had had a preliminary meeting with
Speaker 1: the Commissioner of Baseball about what he had to do
Speaker 1: to be reinstated, and that he'd come back as a
Speaker 1: special instructor. There'd be all sorts of limits as to
Speaker 1: what he could and couldn't do, but that once they
Speaker 1: had tried this out ten years before, he had been banned,
Speaker 1: but he had been named to the Baseball All Century
Speaker 1: Team for the twentieth Century. And even though he could
Speaker 1: not work in baseball and any players who associated with
Speaker 1: him were subject to being fined or punished or warned,
Speaker 1: Baseball was somehow able to bring him onto the field
Speaker 1: at the World Series and at the All Star Game
Speaker 1: and present him as a member of the All Century Team.
Speaker 1: This was a little discordant, a little critical, and yet
Speaker 1: it was the first step in the rehabilitation of Pete Rose.
Speaker 1: Somewhere after the ped scandals broke and I said, well,
Speaker 1: you know what, this is comparatively nothing what Rose did
Speaker 1: compared to what these guys did. And then Baseball began
Speaker 1: to accept the idea of gambling to perform its own
Speaker 1: gambling adjacent services like Fantasy League Baseball run by Baseball,
Speaker 1: providing the stats an edge ever closer to having an
Speaker 1: official wagering sponsor of each team, which it does now.
Speaker 1: As that moment came, it became clear that Pete Rose
Speaker 1: was going to get back into the Baseball Hall of Fame,
Speaker 1: and not because he had improved at all, not because
Speaker 1: he had admitted that he had gambled on baseball, because
Speaker 1: he did that rather quickly, because he could sign baseball's
Speaker 1: for money. As long as he wrote I'm sorry, I
Speaker 1: bet on baseball, he could get an extra twenty dollars.
Speaker 1: There's the old joke about the rare to Pete Rose
Speaker 1: items is the Pete Rose unautographed baseball in any event,
Speaker 1: I believe. In twenty fourteen, Bob Lee and I did
Speaker 1: a special about Pete Rose and his reinstatement and whether
Speaker 1: or not it should happen. And it included an interview
Speaker 1: with Pete Rose, and he was exceptional and frank, and
Speaker 1: you could not listen to that and say, no, there's
Speaker 1: no way I can let him back in. I had
Speaker 1: already come out after years of arguing this, arguing against
Speaker 1: my old partner Dan Patrick, who insisted Rose should be
Speaker 1: in the Hall of Fame, arguing like we argued about
Speaker 1: nothing else. I now suddenly jumped to the pro Pete
Speaker 1: Rose side, And in a couple of years after that,
Speaker 1: I'm doing an ESPN special about the reinstatement of Pete Rose,
Speaker 1: and I say to him, I'm convinced. I don't think
Speaker 1: what you did was right. I think it does not
Speaker 1: require an eternal ban. I think they should put you
Speaker 1: back in, but no, you can't manage it again. And
Speaker 1: then came the story about the girl. I don't know
Speaker 1: that he'll ever go in, but do not, as this
Speaker 1: subject comes back to the forefront in the wake of
Speaker 1: his sudden passing on Monday afternoon. Do not think that
Speaker 1: he has been shunted aside because of the gambling. He
Speaker 1: was shunted aside because of the gambling that was coming
Speaker 1: to an end. He had been welcomed back, at least
Speaker 1: to the degree that Baseball, which could have been very
Speaker 1: easily said to Fox, No, you can't put him on
Speaker 1: the baseball broadcasts, you can't put him on the studio shows.
Speaker 1: You can't have him from center field during your World
Speaker 1: Series telecast before and after the games themselves. You can't
Speaker 1: do that. They could have easily said that. They never
Speaker 1: did until that last scandal broke, and I don't know
Speaker 1: if he ever recovers from that. And of course it
Speaker 1: is tragic. It is somehow a tragic story, the way
Speaker 1: a Shakespearean play is a tragic story, because the contrasts
Speaker 1: between the good Pete Rose and the bad Pete Rose
Speaker 1: looks so stark until you realize that it's the same guy,
Speaker 1: and these are two aspects of the same guy. This
Speaker 1: competitiveness that led him with good but not exceptional talents
Speaker 1: to a mass more hits than anybody else in baseball history,
Speaker 1: that led him to will a couple of teams into
Speaker 1: the postseason, that allowed him to change from starting as
Speaker 1: a second baseman, then becoming an outfielder, then becoming a
Speaker 1: third baseman, then becoming a first baseman, each time to
Speaker 1: improve the team that he was playing on. That will
Speaker 1: was the same will that said I'm going to be
Speaker 1: the greatest gambler of all time. The old joke was
Speaker 1: Mickey Mantle told this story that his nickname Charlie Hustle,
Speaker 1: which he embraced, was from an incident in a spring
Speaker 1: training game where Mantle and Whitey Ford, his Yankee teammate,
Speaker 1: were seated on the bench during the Cincinnati Reds New
Speaker 1: York Yankees spring training game in March of perhaps nineteen
Speaker 1: sixty three, and somebody hit a titanic home run far
Speaker 1: into the right field stands. I mean a five hundred
Speaker 1: foot home run that would have cleared the fence fifty
Speaker 1: or sixty feet above the top of the outfield fence,
Speaker 1: and they in their minds Mantle recalled Rose leaping above
Speaker 1: the fence and coming only, you know, forty three feet
Speaker 1: short of catching the home run. The problem is Pete
Speaker 1: Rose was the second baseman then he did not play
Speaker 1: the outfield in spring training or anywhere else until nineteen
Speaker 1: sixty six or sixty seven. And the Charlie Hustle nickname
Speaker 1: we know predates that. But the Charlie Hustle image is
Speaker 1: that exactly false. Hustle, as the Saturday Night Live character
Speaker 1: played by Gary Garrett Morris pointed out, Charlie Hustle, you
Speaker 1: bet an ironic thing because that happened before we knew
Speaker 1: about the gambling. So the Mantles story where he got
Speaker 1: that nickname from is probably conflated with an actual event
Speaker 1: in a World Series game, which is Saint Louis Cardinals
Speaker 1: outfielder named Mike Shannon tried to catch Mantle's home run
Speaker 1: that won Game three. I believe it was in the
Speaker 1: nineteen sixty four World Series, landed in the upper deck,
Speaker 1: and if you look carefully on the film, Mike Shannon,
Speaker 1: perhaps two hundred feet below where the home run landed,
Speaker 1: is leaping in hopes of catching the ball, which he
Speaker 1: could not have caught even if he had been one
Speaker 1: hundred and ninety feet tall. I believe Mantle conflated Shannon
Speaker 1: and Pete Rose, so that Charlie Hustle thing was more
Speaker 1: likely a Cincinnati Reds New York Yankees exhibition game in
Speaker 1: which Pete Rose must have gotten a walk as a
Speaker 1: rookie is an unknown rookie who have played the year
Speaker 1: before in the lowest minor league rungs, and he ran
Speaker 1: to first base, and Whitey Ford turned to Mickey Mann
Speaker 1: and said get a load to Charlie Hussell, and Rose
Speaker 1: took that and made money off of it. Pete Rose
Speaker 1: was not a contradiction. He was one guy. He was
Speaker 1: going to beat you. Unfortunately, like so many people for
Speaker 1: whom that is a mantra. There are no rules. Ultimately,
Speaker 1: they may stop themselves from doing illegal things for fear
Speaker 1: of getting caught, or they may not stop themselves from
Speaker 1: doing illegal things for fear of getting caught. Pete Rose
Speaker 1: got caught. As a last note, I promised you that
Speaker 1: I had found out about the Pete Rose scandals without
Speaker 1: knowing what they could have been about. I knew there
Speaker 1: was something wrong in my late teens. I was one
Speaker 1: of the first of the baseball card collectors as a kid,
Speaker 1: and so I was at all the primordial baseball card
Speaker 1: conventions we called them in those days, and the traffic
Speaker 1: was almost all in cards and to some degree autographs
Speaker 1: and photos, but generally publicly accessible stuff magazines, score cards, yearbooks,
Speaker 1: the stuff anybody could buy. Just these were the ones
Speaker 1: that people hadn't thrown out, except there was a small
Speaker 1: market in game worn baseball uniforms. They were prized beyond words.
Speaker 1: I don't know that there were more than one hundred
Speaker 1: of them in private hands in nineteen say seventy six,
Speaker 1: And then suddenly everywhere you turned, at the card conventions
Speaker 1: of nineteen seventy seven, there was a Pete Rose jersey available.
Speaker 1: Every dealer in the New York Show in the spring
Speaker 1: of nineteen seventy seven seemed to have an autographed, game worn,
Speaker 1: authentic Pete Rose game used uniform. It made no sense,
Speaker 1: and throughout his career, dating back to his rookie year,
Speaker 1: which was at that point fourteen years earlier, made no sense. Well.
Speaker 1: Of course, what was happening was Pete Rose was in
Speaker 1: financial trouble, and we figured that out pretty quickly that
Speaker 1: the only possible source for these uniforms was Pete Rose.
Speaker 1: In the past, baseball uniforms had leaked out through charity events,
Speaker 1: through teams selling extra uniforms from equipment managers, stealing them
Speaker 1: and then selling them into the hobby. But Pete Roses,
Speaker 1: we're so voluminous that they could have only come from
Speaker 1: one source, Pete Rose. He did it for the money.
Speaker 1: He would take his uniform off and take it home
Speaker 1: and wear a different one the next day. There were
Speaker 1: hundreds upon hundreds of Game Warren Pete Rose uniforms. There
Speaker 1: may have been some point in the late seventies where
Speaker 1: there were more Pete Rose Game Warn uniforms than all
Speaker 1: the Game Warn uniforms of all the other players in
Speaker 1: baseball history combined, so we knew in the hobby Pete
Speaker 1: needs the money. The joke was this, and it is
Speaker 1: the joke that I think, also in addition to the
Speaker 1: one I already made, Pete Rose might have enjoyed. I
Speaker 1: don't remember if I told him about it or not.
Speaker 1: The joke was that the collector goes up to the
Speaker 1: dealer in uniforms sometime in the late seventies or early
Speaker 1: eighties and says, I'd like to buy a Pete Rose
Speaker 1: Game Warren uniform and the dealer says great, Cincinnati, Philadelphia
Speaker 1: or Montreal. And the collector is a little surprised that
Speaker 1: he has these options Cincinnati flannel or double knit flannel,
Speaker 1: full sleeve pinstripe or nineteen sixty three to sixty six
Speaker 1: best style, the full sleeve pinstripe, Please okay? Home or away?
Speaker 1: And the guy is now totally flamixed and says, uh home,
Speaker 1: and the dealer says one other question for you, Yes,
Speaker 1: what size would you like? I've done all the damage
Speaker 1: I can do here. Thank you for listening. We're now
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