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I am 14 00:01:26,040 --> 00:01:29,319 Speaker 1: JOSHUAP Warren, and each week on this show, I'll be 15 00:01:29,360 --> 00:01:33,120 Speaker 1: bringing you brand new mind blowing content, news exercises, and 16 00:01:33,520 --> 00:01:37,600 Speaker 1: weird experiments you can do at home, and a lot more. 17 00:01:38,760 --> 00:01:43,840 Speaker 1: On this edition of the program, A prisoner wrote me 18 00:01:44,000 --> 00:01:50,840 Speaker 1: a letter and here's what he said. You know, let 19 00:01:50,880 --> 00:01:54,960 Speaker 1: me start by telling you I am recording this in 20 00:01:55,160 --> 00:01:58,320 Speaker 1: the Halloween season, and this is the time of year 21 00:01:58,920 --> 00:02:02,800 Speaker 1: when it's okay to talk about spooky stuff. But you 22 00:02:02,800 --> 00:02:07,640 Speaker 1: know what, that's really a silly thing to say, because 23 00:02:07,720 --> 00:02:13,000 Speaker 1: the absolute scariest things in society are things that many 24 00:02:13,040 --> 00:02:18,480 Speaker 1: of us, as a huge audience, gorge on all year long. 25 00:02:18,800 --> 00:02:24,720 Speaker 1: It's called true crime. Yes, the entire genre of true 26 00:02:24,760 --> 00:02:30,520 Speaker 1: crime TV shows, books, podcasts, you name it. It's everywhere 27 00:02:31,160 --> 00:02:35,040 Speaker 1: all year long, and it has always been popular since 28 00:02:35,080 --> 00:02:40,920 Speaker 1: the very beginning of media. Why is that? Why is 29 00:02:40,960 --> 00:02:47,040 Speaker 1: it that people are not necessarily interested in some cases 30 00:02:47,080 --> 00:02:50,160 Speaker 1: and say like a fictional horror movie or a haunted 31 00:02:50,200 --> 00:02:55,840 Speaker 1: fun house, but nonetheless glued to true crime stories about 32 00:02:55,919 --> 00:03:01,080 Speaker 1: real people doing real things that are really truly horrible. 33 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:04,760 Speaker 1: That's kind of an ironic part of our lives as 34 00:03:04,760 --> 00:03:08,920 Speaker 1: a society. I think it It must have to do 35 00:03:09,000 --> 00:03:13,160 Speaker 1: with our fight or flight survival instincts, you know, like 36 00:03:13,200 --> 00:03:19,520 Speaker 1: our natural inclination to protect ourselves by avoiding dangerous things, 37 00:03:19,560 --> 00:03:24,800 Speaker 1: and the media has always exploited that with scary headlines. 38 00:03:26,400 --> 00:03:31,440 Speaker 1: But it also goes beyond that into a fascination with 39 00:03:31,560 --> 00:03:37,840 Speaker 1: people who are capable of committing unspeakable x. You know, 40 00:03:37,880 --> 00:03:39,800 Speaker 1: this is a little bit off topic, but I want 41 00:03:39,840 --> 00:03:43,360 Speaker 1: to bring this up because I have always had this 42 00:03:44,440 --> 00:03:50,280 Speaker 1: kind of weird relationship to true crime. And one example 43 00:03:50,360 --> 00:03:53,480 Speaker 1: that pops into my mind comes from I think it 44 00:03:53,600 --> 00:03:57,760 Speaker 1: was two thousand six. For a short period of time, 45 00:03:57,920 --> 00:04:01,800 Speaker 1: I teamed up with my friends the late Jim Mars 46 00:04:02,280 --> 00:04:08,119 Speaker 1: and Nick Redfern, who is still among us. Some say 47 00:04:08,120 --> 00:04:10,880 Speaker 1: he's an alien, but he whatever, he is with us. 48 00:04:11,800 --> 00:04:15,920 Speaker 1: I teamed up with Jim Mars and Nick Redfern and 49 00:04:16,120 --> 00:04:20,560 Speaker 1: we went on a speaking engagement tour and uh, this 50 00:04:20,640 --> 00:04:23,360 Speaker 1: is something that I put together. It was called Dark thirty, 51 00:04:23,480 --> 00:04:29,120 Speaker 1: the Dark thirty Tour, and our first place to speak 52 00:04:29,400 --> 00:04:35,599 Speaker 1: was Kansas City, Missouri, and Jim had contact there with 53 00:04:35,720 --> 00:04:39,080 Speaker 1: the theater. So I set the whole thing up, and 54 00:04:39,160 --> 00:04:41,280 Speaker 1: it was gonna be like, I forget how many hours, 55 00:04:42,360 --> 00:04:45,720 Speaker 1: probably you know, like three hours, with some intermissions were 56 00:04:45,760 --> 00:04:47,599 Speaker 1: like I would speak for an hour, Jim will do 57 00:04:47,600 --> 00:04:50,400 Speaker 1: an hour, and Nick would do an hour. UM. It 58 00:04:50,480 --> 00:04:53,600 Speaker 1: was a really cool thing. The Dark thirty Tour was 59 00:04:53,640 --> 00:04:58,240 Speaker 1: actually recorded and somewhere out there, UM, I have got 60 00:04:59,120 --> 00:05:01,200 Speaker 1: those record things. I think I need to talk to 61 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:04,400 Speaker 1: Mobius and see if we can put those online and 62 00:05:04,839 --> 00:05:10,599 Speaker 1: make them available for streaming. UM. Anyway, so we all flew. 63 00:05:10,680 --> 00:05:13,960 Speaker 1: The three of us flew to Kansas City, Missouri, and 64 00:05:14,160 --> 00:05:19,760 Speaker 1: I arranged for us to have this hotel that was 65 00:05:19,880 --> 00:05:24,480 Speaker 1: right next to a bar and restaurant that was open 66 00:05:24,600 --> 00:05:29,039 Speaker 1: late within walking distance because I knew that often we 67 00:05:29,080 --> 00:05:32,440 Speaker 1: would be coming back late at night, and uh, we 68 00:05:32,440 --> 00:05:35,200 Speaker 1: were not renting a car, and so I was like, well, 69 00:05:35,200 --> 00:05:36,919 Speaker 1: this is cool because we can just walk over to 70 00:05:36,960 --> 00:05:39,920 Speaker 1: this place and you know, eat before we head back 71 00:05:39,960 --> 00:05:43,000 Speaker 1: to our room for the night. So we came in, 72 00:05:43,360 --> 00:05:45,320 Speaker 1: oh at least a day early, and I think we 73 00:05:45,400 --> 00:05:49,920 Speaker 1: stayed to day late. So when we arrived, the three 74 00:05:49,920 --> 00:05:52,920 Speaker 1: of us walked into this bar and actually see Eric 75 00:05:52,920 --> 00:05:55,440 Speaker 1: Scott was there because he was the guy who filmed everything. 76 00:05:55,880 --> 00:05:59,080 Speaker 1: We walked into this big there's a nice old, like 77 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:04,120 Speaker 1: very hometown, you know, like neighborhood kind of bar restaurant, 78 00:06:04,120 --> 00:06:06,240 Speaker 1: and we walked in and uh, I don't know, I 79 00:06:06,320 --> 00:06:10,760 Speaker 1: just looked over, and as one would do, I randomly 80 00:06:10,839 --> 00:06:13,840 Speaker 1: picked a table for us to go sit down. So 81 00:06:13,880 --> 00:06:16,600 Speaker 1: we go, we sit down at this table and the 82 00:06:16,680 --> 00:06:20,159 Speaker 1: server comes over and you know, we hadn't I think 83 00:06:20,240 --> 00:06:22,240 Speaker 1: that was like a late lunch or whatever. And then 84 00:06:22,320 --> 00:06:26,400 Speaker 1: later that evening we went back to have dinner, and 85 00:06:26,600 --> 00:06:29,800 Speaker 1: uh there was that same table that you know, we 86 00:06:29,800 --> 00:06:32,040 Speaker 1: were like, hey, let's just let's sit at that table. 87 00:06:32,279 --> 00:06:35,599 Speaker 1: Turns out, for the next few days, like every time 88 00:06:35,839 --> 00:06:40,520 Speaker 1: we went into this restaurant, we sat at that table. 89 00:06:40,800 --> 00:06:44,960 Speaker 1: That table was available, um, and it was you know, 90 00:06:45,080 --> 00:06:48,320 Speaker 1: very well placed, and we didn't really think much about it. 91 00:06:48,600 --> 00:06:52,640 Speaker 1: So on the very last night of our stay, we 92 00:06:52,680 --> 00:06:55,000 Speaker 1: had like a v I P thing where some of 93 00:06:55,000 --> 00:06:58,039 Speaker 1: the people who came to see us speak could pay 94 00:06:58,080 --> 00:07:01,279 Speaker 1: extra and then they could come and actually hang out 95 00:07:01,279 --> 00:07:06,400 Speaker 1: with us at this bar. And so, uh, we walked 96 00:07:06,440 --> 00:07:09,920 Speaker 1: into the bar and there's our usual table, you know, 97 00:07:09,920 --> 00:07:12,320 Speaker 1: where we've been sitting in the past few days. We 98 00:07:12,440 --> 00:07:15,400 Speaker 1: sat down and everybody gathered around us and you know, 99 00:07:15,640 --> 00:07:20,680 Speaker 1: having the usual deep philosophical conversations. And at one point 100 00:07:21,680 --> 00:07:24,800 Speaker 1: one of the guys who had lived in Kansas City 101 00:07:25,080 --> 00:07:28,200 Speaker 1: his whole life, said, well, it figures that you guys 102 00:07:28,280 --> 00:07:33,560 Speaker 1: would be at this table. And I said we, oh, yeah, 103 00:07:33,560 --> 00:07:38,360 Speaker 1: why is that And he goes, oh, you don't know, no, 104 00:07:40,880 --> 00:07:43,480 Speaker 1: And that is when he told me the story of 105 00:07:43,560 --> 00:07:48,840 Speaker 1: the Kansas City Butcher. The Kansas City Butcher was a 106 00:07:48,880 --> 00:07:54,640 Speaker 1: man named Robert Berdella. Last name spelled b E R 107 00:07:54,760 --> 00:08:00,680 Speaker 1: d E l l A. And apparently, uh, and I 108 00:08:00,760 --> 00:08:03,800 Speaker 1: have not. I should have gone back and like reread 109 00:08:03,840 --> 00:08:08,160 Speaker 1: everything in detail, but uh, I really didn't want to 110 00:08:08,200 --> 00:08:12,640 Speaker 1: think about this again. Um. This basically like in the 111 00:08:12,760 --> 00:08:16,680 Speaker 1: nineteen eighties, I think, one day, as this guy explains, 112 00:08:17,280 --> 00:08:24,200 Speaker 1: this naked, badly damaged man wearing a dog collar is 113 00:08:24,280 --> 00:08:29,120 Speaker 1: running down the street screaming in some you know, nearby neighborhood. 114 00:08:30,440 --> 00:08:34,480 Speaker 1: And this is actually similar to what happened in Jeffrey 115 00:08:34,520 --> 00:08:40,560 Speaker 1: Dahmer's case. And um, let's see, I believe it was. Okay, yeah, 116 00:08:40,600 --> 00:08:44,480 Speaker 1: this is in the eighties, and so uh, this led 117 00:08:44,559 --> 00:08:48,800 Speaker 1: them to this guy's house. And this guy, Robert Burdella, Okay, 118 00:08:48,840 --> 00:08:53,000 Speaker 1: he looks kind of like a big fat Mario from 119 00:08:53,440 --> 00:08:57,160 Speaker 1: Super Mario Brothers. And if you just go look up 120 00:08:57,200 --> 00:09:02,520 Speaker 1: the Wikipedia page, here's what it says. Okay, so this 121 00:09:02,640 --> 00:09:05,360 Speaker 1: this guy had he had a dungeon okay, in his 122 00:09:06,160 --> 00:09:08,400 Speaker 1: on his property there, and you know what guys do 123 00:09:08,480 --> 00:09:12,679 Speaker 1: in their dungeons, like like real dudgeons, And Wikipedia says 124 00:09:14,160 --> 00:09:18,640 Speaker 1: Robert Berdella, Jr. Who lived from nineteen forty nine to 125 00:09:18,760 --> 00:09:25,160 Speaker 1: nineteen two, was an American serial killer who kidnapped, raped, tortured, 126 00:09:25,640 --> 00:09:30,480 Speaker 1: and murdered at least six young men, after having forced 127 00:09:30,640 --> 00:09:33,960 Speaker 1: his victims to endure periods of up to six weeks 128 00:09:33,960 --> 00:09:39,280 Speaker 1: of captivity. His crimes took place in Kansas City, Missouri, 129 00:09:39,400 --> 00:09:44,240 Speaker 1: between nineteen eighty four and nineteen seven. Now I would 130 00:09:44,679 --> 00:09:47,600 Speaker 1: actually I would be willing to go into detail and 131 00:09:47,640 --> 00:09:49,400 Speaker 1: tell you some of the stuff that this guy did, 132 00:09:49,880 --> 00:09:52,360 Speaker 1: but producer Tom dan Huiser says, this has to be 133 00:09:52,440 --> 00:09:56,640 Speaker 1: a family friendly podcast, so I will. If you want 134 00:09:56,640 --> 00:09:59,080 Speaker 1: to know what this guy was doing, two dudes, just 135 00:09:59,200 --> 00:10:03,600 Speaker 1: go just look up Robert Berdella and prepare yourself, okay, 136 00:10:03,679 --> 00:10:09,440 Speaker 1: B E R D E L L A. And the 137 00:10:09,520 --> 00:10:12,880 Speaker 1: reason this is relevant is because this guy, he was 138 00:10:12,960 --> 00:10:16,200 Speaker 1: also a cannibal. See, he and Dahmer had a lot 139 00:10:16,400 --> 00:10:18,680 Speaker 1: in common, a lot in common. But I think he 140 00:10:18,720 --> 00:10:21,800 Speaker 1: did even more horrible things too, dudes than Dahmer did, 141 00:10:22,080 --> 00:10:25,120 Speaker 1: because he would keep them alive for a long long time, 142 00:10:25,760 --> 00:10:28,400 Speaker 1: as long as like he was successful keeping them alive 143 00:10:28,440 --> 00:10:33,280 Speaker 1: for a long time and horribly torturing these men. Well, 144 00:10:34,679 --> 00:10:39,920 Speaker 1: at that restaurant back in the day, they had kind 145 00:10:39,920 --> 00:10:44,160 Speaker 1: of like a a little flea market that they would 146 00:10:44,200 --> 00:10:48,839 Speaker 1: do on the weekends where you know, locals would come 147 00:10:48,880 --> 00:10:51,880 Speaker 1: together and they could reserve a table and set up 148 00:10:51,920 --> 00:10:55,480 Speaker 1: their wares and sell things. A lot of communities still 149 00:10:55,520 --> 00:10:58,600 Speaker 1: do that kind of thing to this day. And so 150 00:10:58,880 --> 00:11:03,240 Speaker 1: he you is this uh as a fixture. Okay, he 151 00:11:03,320 --> 00:11:07,000 Speaker 1: would earn a lot of money by going to this 152 00:11:07,120 --> 00:11:14,360 Speaker 1: flea market and he always always got that spot where 153 00:11:14,400 --> 00:11:17,839 Speaker 1: our table was, where he would set up his goodies 154 00:11:17,960 --> 00:11:21,800 Speaker 1: to sell to make some money on the weekends. Now, 155 00:11:21,840 --> 00:11:27,120 Speaker 1: the thing is, this story gets even more twisted, and 156 00:11:27,360 --> 00:11:29,080 Speaker 1: U when we come back from this break, I'm going 157 00:11:29,160 --> 00:11:32,000 Speaker 1: to tell you about some of the goodies that this 158 00:11:32,040 --> 00:11:35,760 Speaker 1: guy would sell at that spot, and then also about 159 00:11:35,760 --> 00:11:40,720 Speaker 1: another horrible UH brush I had a true crime. And 160 00:11:40,760 --> 00:11:42,520 Speaker 1: then finally I'm gonna tell you I'm gonna read to 161 00:11:42,559 --> 00:11:45,520 Speaker 1: you this actual letter that I received a few days 162 00:11:45,520 --> 00:11:52,160 Speaker 1: ago from a man who is currently incarcerated. He he 163 00:11:52,280 --> 00:11:55,600 Speaker 1: heard me on the radio and it led to him 164 00:11:55,640 --> 00:11:58,760 Speaker 1: sending me this And it's really strange, and I'd like 165 00:11:58,840 --> 00:12:03,040 Speaker 1: to see what you all think about it. Um. 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I am Joshua pe Warren and 183 00:13:00,440 --> 00:13:03,600 Speaker 1: you were listening to Strange Things on the I Heart 184 00:13:03,720 --> 00:13:07,720 Speaker 1: Radio and Coast to Coast. I am Paranormal Podcast Network, 185 00:13:08,280 --> 00:13:45,760 Speaker 1: and I will be right back. Welcome back to Strange 186 00:13:46,160 --> 00:13:50,000 Speaker 1: Things on the I Heart Radio and Coast to Coast 187 00:13:50,040 --> 00:13:54,600 Speaker 1: to m Paranormal Podcast Network. I am your host, the 188 00:13:54,640 --> 00:13:58,880 Speaker 1: Wizard of Weird, Joshua pe Warren, beaming into your wormhole 189 00:13:58,920 --> 00:14:04,280 Speaker 1: brain from my student deo in Sin City, Las Vegas, Nevada, 190 00:14:04,720 --> 00:14:08,640 Speaker 1: where every day is golden and every night this silver. 191 00:14:10,120 --> 00:14:12,680 Speaker 1: So yeah, there we were sitting at this table being 192 00:14:12,720 --> 00:14:17,440 Speaker 1: informed by this local that that was the table where 193 00:14:17,440 --> 00:14:21,680 Speaker 1: this horrible serial killer. And I know all serial killers 194 00:14:21,720 --> 00:14:25,560 Speaker 1: are horrible, but some are more horrible than others, because 195 00:14:26,320 --> 00:14:28,680 Speaker 1: this is a guy who would keep people in his 196 00:14:28,960 --> 00:14:35,120 Speaker 1: house for like weeks and torture them unimaginably before they died. 197 00:14:36,080 --> 00:14:39,960 Speaker 1: And uh, I mean I can't imagine a worse a 198 00:14:40,040 --> 00:14:43,520 Speaker 1: worse type of person, a worse individual than than this. Really, 199 00:14:44,400 --> 00:14:52,320 Speaker 1: um so this guy, Uh, Robert Berdella. Yeah, I always 200 00:14:52,320 --> 00:14:56,680 Speaker 1: want to say Bordello, but it's Robert Burdella. Uh. He 201 00:14:57,000 --> 00:15:01,040 Speaker 1: would set up these sort of like our and crafts 202 00:15:01,080 --> 00:15:04,920 Speaker 1: there at this spot, maybe even on that very table. 203 00:15:05,000 --> 00:15:07,080 Speaker 1: I doubt it. Surely they he brought his own table, 204 00:15:07,160 --> 00:15:10,120 Speaker 1: or they threw his table out or whatever. Hopefully we 205 00:15:10,120 --> 00:15:13,440 Speaker 1: weren't eating off of that table. And he was apparently 206 00:15:13,480 --> 00:15:16,880 Speaker 1: incorporating human body parts into arts and crafts that he 207 00:15:16,880 --> 00:15:19,560 Speaker 1: would sell there. And the thing is, now that I've 208 00:15:19,600 --> 00:15:21,320 Speaker 1: gone back and take a second look, I don't think 209 00:15:21,320 --> 00:15:25,360 Speaker 1: he ever admitted to any kind of cannibalism. But once 210 00:15:25,440 --> 00:15:28,560 Speaker 1: I started talking to locals there, some of the people 211 00:15:28,760 --> 00:15:32,160 Speaker 1: who would participate in that little neighborhood flea market said 212 00:15:32,200 --> 00:15:36,880 Speaker 1: that it was common for the regular sellers to all 213 00:15:37,080 --> 00:15:40,280 Speaker 1: get together and pretty much have like a pot luck 214 00:15:41,160 --> 00:15:46,520 Speaker 1: lunch where everybody would contribute something to the mill for 215 00:15:46,560 --> 00:15:50,360 Speaker 1: the sellers. Um. I know that sounds a little odd 216 00:15:50,400 --> 00:15:52,440 Speaker 1: that they would do that in a restaurant, but that's 217 00:15:52,440 --> 00:15:58,000 Speaker 1: what I was told, And that Robert Burtella made the 218 00:15:58,040 --> 00:16:03,200 Speaker 1: best stu ever. Everybody just loved that Robert Bridella stew 219 00:16:04,000 --> 00:16:06,160 Speaker 1: And so of course the word on the street was 220 00:16:06,320 --> 00:16:11,120 Speaker 1: that he was finding all kinds of creative ways of 221 00:16:11,360 --> 00:16:16,600 Speaker 1: disposing of bodies and that he probably got a little 222 00:16:17,400 --> 00:16:21,200 Speaker 1: private pleasure out of watching other people eat some of 223 00:16:21,240 --> 00:16:24,600 Speaker 1: his victims. Again, who knows if that's true or not, 224 00:16:24,640 --> 00:16:28,880 Speaker 1: but regardless, it was definitely a shock that we had 225 00:16:28,920 --> 00:16:33,920 Speaker 1: been sitting at this spot this whole time. And then uh, 226 00:16:34,080 --> 00:16:37,000 Speaker 1: then a locals like, oh you do know where you are? 227 00:16:37,120 --> 00:16:41,880 Speaker 1: You know, tells us the story. Um, we never had 228 00:16:41,920 --> 00:16:44,520 Speaker 1: any paranormal experiences there, but I mean, that's kind of 229 00:16:44,560 --> 00:16:46,720 Speaker 1: messed up and can but think about it if you 230 00:16:46,720 --> 00:16:48,880 Speaker 1: were one of those people who ate some of that stew. 231 00:16:50,000 --> 00:16:54,080 Speaker 1: I mean, wouldn't you feel disgusted as soon as you 232 00:16:54,160 --> 00:16:57,800 Speaker 1: realized what this guy was up to? Wouldn't that be terrible? 233 00:16:59,440 --> 00:17:03,680 Speaker 1: Um So anyway, but let me before I get into this. Uh. 234 00:17:03,840 --> 00:17:06,760 Speaker 1: And I know I'm starting off with some really twisted 235 00:17:06,800 --> 00:17:11,280 Speaker 1: stuff here, but I I have had prisoners contact me before. 236 00:17:12,720 --> 00:17:17,240 Speaker 1: I think the worst prisoner that has ever personally contacted 237 00:17:17,240 --> 00:17:24,360 Speaker 1: me was Richard Ramirez, known as the night Stalker. Uh 238 00:17:24,400 --> 00:17:28,360 Speaker 1: and by the way, Robert Berdella. He died in prison 239 00:17:29,119 --> 00:17:33,560 Speaker 1: of a heart attack at age forty three. Thank goodness, 240 00:17:33,920 --> 00:17:37,800 Speaker 1: Thank goodness, because look, if a guy like that escapes, 241 00:17:37,880 --> 00:17:39,719 Speaker 1: you don't know what he's gonna do. I mean, uh, 242 00:17:40,280 --> 00:17:42,679 Speaker 1: look at Ted Bundy. He escaped from prison and he 243 00:17:42,720 --> 00:17:46,160 Speaker 1: went right back to killing people. So um so, yeah, 244 00:17:46,240 --> 00:17:49,600 Speaker 1: Richard Ramirez another one of the worst, the twisted, horrible 245 00:17:49,640 --> 00:17:52,480 Speaker 1: stuff he did, the night Stalker Again, I'm not gonna 246 00:17:52,520 --> 00:17:56,960 Speaker 1: go over all the things he did, um it says here. Uh. 247 00:17:57,480 --> 00:18:02,760 Speaker 1: He was also called the Walking Killer. His crime spree 248 00:18:02,800 --> 00:18:06,960 Speaker 1: took place in California between June of nineteen four in 249 00:18:07,000 --> 00:18:15,000 Speaker 1: August nineteen five, and Uh. He was convicted of thirteen 250 00:18:15,080 --> 00:18:19,119 Speaker 1: counts of murder, five counts of attempted murder, all kinds 251 00:18:19,160 --> 00:18:23,199 Speaker 1: of other assaults and burglary. And you know, basically what 252 00:18:23,720 --> 00:18:27,240 Speaker 1: usually somebody who's like that, they get whatever they're convicted 253 00:18:27,280 --> 00:18:31,800 Speaker 1: of as a fraction of the stuff they've actually done. Um. 254 00:18:31,840 --> 00:18:35,600 Speaker 1: He he was given nineteen death sentences. This guy, he 255 00:18:35,720 --> 00:18:38,880 Speaker 1: was so dark and twisted and evil and just again 256 00:18:38,960 --> 00:18:42,480 Speaker 1: the worst of the worst. Practically a demon, a real 257 00:18:42,600 --> 00:18:49,240 Speaker 1: demon walking amongst us on earth. And uh, he heard 258 00:18:49,280 --> 00:18:53,119 Speaker 1: me on the radio, and yeah, here's here's what happens. 259 00:18:53,200 --> 00:18:58,399 Speaker 1: Usually when prisoners generally do not have access to email. 260 00:18:59,200 --> 00:19:02,119 Speaker 1: So what they'll do is they will write a letter 261 00:19:03,520 --> 00:19:06,120 Speaker 1: and with her with her own hand, you know, they 262 00:19:06,119 --> 00:19:09,439 Speaker 1: get a pin and a pencil or whatever and a 263 00:19:09,440 --> 00:19:11,680 Speaker 1: piece of paper and they write a letter, and they 264 00:19:11,840 --> 00:19:15,760 Speaker 1: send that letter to a friend, a supporter, a relative, 265 00:19:16,280 --> 00:19:19,720 Speaker 1: and then that person will scan it in and email you. 266 00:19:20,560 --> 00:19:23,120 Speaker 1: So it's a slow process if you're going to try 267 00:19:23,160 --> 00:19:28,280 Speaker 1: to communicate with a prisoner. And so I got cars 268 00:19:28,280 --> 00:19:32,760 Speaker 1: somebody contacted me who was like Richard Ramirez is rep 269 00:19:32,880 --> 00:19:37,560 Speaker 1: or whatever, the night Stalker, and said that he would 270 00:19:37,640 --> 00:19:40,919 Speaker 1: like for me to interview him. And this is when 271 00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:44,400 Speaker 1: I was doing my show called Speaking of Strange on 272 00:19:44,480 --> 00:19:48,000 Speaker 1: the news radio five seventy w w n C, the 273 00:19:48,080 --> 00:19:55,840 Speaker 1: Talk of the Mountains, And you know, my immediate reaction was, oh, yeah, yeah, 274 00:19:55,880 --> 00:19:59,920 Speaker 1: I think that'd be great radio me quizzing a serial killer. 275 00:20:00,359 --> 00:20:02,879 Speaker 1: And my program director thought it was a good idea. 276 00:20:03,040 --> 00:20:06,520 Speaker 1: But then after that, like after the immediate like, oh, 277 00:20:06,560 --> 00:20:08,480 Speaker 1: that'd be a good radio then I started thinking, like, 278 00:20:10,280 --> 00:20:13,080 Speaker 1: is this ethical? Is this more like? And I started 279 00:20:13,160 --> 00:20:16,000 Speaker 1: really digging into who this guy was, and I started 280 00:20:16,040 --> 00:20:18,639 Speaker 1: feeling kind of sick about it, and I and and 281 00:20:18,720 --> 00:20:21,239 Speaker 1: it really started disturbing me, and I started thinking, I 282 00:20:21,280 --> 00:20:26,359 Speaker 1: don't believe that I want to to to do anything 283 00:20:26,640 --> 00:20:31,119 Speaker 1: to like feature the voice of this evil person. But 284 00:20:31,240 --> 00:20:33,960 Speaker 1: on the other hand, you know, I had that conflict like, well, 285 00:20:34,000 --> 00:20:37,879 Speaker 1: can we can we learn something from this evil person 286 00:20:38,000 --> 00:20:40,560 Speaker 1: about how to avoid this kind of I mean, you 287 00:20:40,600 --> 00:20:44,919 Speaker 1: go through these really weird emotions. So I had not 288 00:20:45,119 --> 00:20:47,439 Speaker 1: made up my mind actually as to whether or not 289 00:20:47,440 --> 00:20:51,320 Speaker 1: I was going to interview him. And then at that point, uh, 290 00:20:51,400 --> 00:20:56,360 Speaker 1: the California Corrections who are the prisoner or whatever? Uh 291 00:20:56,720 --> 00:20:59,359 Speaker 1: they the warden stepped in and said he would not 292 00:20:59,480 --> 00:21:02,960 Speaker 1: allow the interview to take place. So that ended that. 293 00:21:03,640 --> 00:21:06,560 Speaker 1: But so that shows you, like another example of how 294 00:21:06,600 --> 00:21:10,760 Speaker 1: I've thought about these kinds of things. And before I 295 00:21:10,800 --> 00:21:13,560 Speaker 1: tell you what I was about this letter that this 296 00:21:13,600 --> 00:21:16,160 Speaker 1: prisoner just wrote me a few days ago, I want 297 00:21:16,200 --> 00:21:21,359 Speaker 1: to make something clear. I do not encourage prisoners to 298 00:21:21,480 --> 00:21:24,760 Speaker 1: contact me, Okay, I I really would prefer not to 299 00:21:24,800 --> 00:21:28,439 Speaker 1: be contacted by prisoners, And I'll tell you why. Um, 300 00:21:28,440 --> 00:21:31,440 Speaker 1: And that is because I am not in a position 301 00:21:31,520 --> 00:21:34,360 Speaker 1: to judge anybody. And I don't know if if you're 302 00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:38,719 Speaker 1: in prison, I don't know if you are a good person, 303 00:21:38,880 --> 00:21:41,399 Speaker 1: who is you know, like an innocent person who was 304 00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:44,640 Speaker 1: wrongfully convicted and is having like this the worst time 305 00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:47,800 Speaker 1: of your life, or if you are a bad person 306 00:21:47,840 --> 00:21:50,720 Speaker 1: and you deserve to be in prison. I'm not in 307 00:21:50,760 --> 00:21:56,439 Speaker 1: a position to judge that. That's some pretty heavy stuff, um, 308 00:21:56,480 --> 00:21:59,280 Speaker 1: And so I prefer to avoid that. You know, you 309 00:21:59,359 --> 00:22:01,720 Speaker 1: might take some buddy who's in prison and talk about 310 00:22:01,760 --> 00:22:04,520 Speaker 1: what he or she says, and then some victim out 311 00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:07,239 Speaker 1: there says, well, why are you, you know, celebrating this 312 00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:09,280 Speaker 1: person or something like that, And of course I'm not, 313 00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:12,199 Speaker 1: but that's how it may be perceived. So it's a 314 00:22:12,320 --> 00:22:17,200 Speaker 1: very complicated territory, and uh, you know, I'm not the governor. 315 00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:19,440 Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not in the position to have to decide, 316 00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:23,359 Speaker 1: you know, who gets what I do. However, realize, as 317 00:22:23,400 --> 00:22:25,840 Speaker 1: we all should, that if a person does commit a 318 00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:29,880 Speaker 1: crime and is guilty, and if we don't kill that 319 00:22:29,920 --> 00:22:33,640 Speaker 1: person or put that person in prison forever, well then 320 00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:38,199 Speaker 1: if that person does the time and then rejoin society, 321 00:22:38,320 --> 00:22:42,040 Speaker 1: well we want to do everything we can to rehabilitate 322 00:22:42,119 --> 00:22:44,160 Speaker 1: that person. You know. That's good for all of us. 323 00:22:44,800 --> 00:22:46,600 Speaker 1: That's that should be the goal. It's like, what's the 324 00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:51,080 Speaker 1: point and giving somebody, you know, the scarlet letter the 325 00:22:51,160 --> 00:22:53,600 Speaker 1: rest of his or her life, which is just gonna 326 00:22:53,800 --> 00:22:58,720 Speaker 1: drive them, possibly back into doing some kind of dark act. 327 00:22:59,119 --> 00:23:03,400 Speaker 1: So I mean, we have to be open to rehabilitating 328 00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:06,439 Speaker 1: people and giving them another chance. That's the whole purpose 329 00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:09,959 Speaker 1: of the justice system. But so again, I don't like 330 00:23:10,040 --> 00:23:13,080 Speaker 1: thinking about these things, so I do. If you're a prisoner, 331 00:23:13,480 --> 00:23:16,399 Speaker 1: I'm not please, I prefer you not contact me. But 332 00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:20,800 Speaker 1: in this particular case, I was contacted and the prisoner 333 00:23:20,880 --> 00:23:24,119 Speaker 1: said something really strange, and I figured I tossed it 334 00:23:24,119 --> 00:23:25,720 Speaker 1: out there to you and see what you think. So 335 00:23:25,840 --> 00:23:28,440 Speaker 1: that's enough of the build up. I guess. Okay, this 336 00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:33,359 Speaker 1: is a man who is in a prison in Texas 337 00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:40,680 Speaker 1: and he is serving eighteen years for robbery. And from 338 00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:44,919 Speaker 1: what I can tell, um, I think that's it, like 339 00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:48,119 Speaker 1: you know, aggravated robbery kind of thing. And I know 340 00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:50,080 Speaker 1: eighteen years is a long time, so I don't know 341 00:23:50,119 --> 00:23:52,920 Speaker 1: what he did exactly, supposedly, I don't know if he's 342 00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:56,360 Speaker 1: claiming he's innocent or not. Uh, and I think there 343 00:23:56,359 --> 00:24:02,199 Speaker 1: are also some weapons charges. So his representative scanned in 344 00:24:02,359 --> 00:24:05,760 Speaker 1: his letter and sent it to me, and he gave me, 345 00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:08,800 Speaker 1: of course, all his information in terms of like his 346 00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:13,120 Speaker 1: name and uh, you know, where where he is located, etcetera. 347 00:24:13,160 --> 00:24:16,680 Speaker 1: I'm not going to give his name out though, because 348 00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:21,439 Speaker 1: that um, I mean, let's face it, being in prison 349 00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:23,639 Speaker 1: is nothing to be proud of. And I said he 350 00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:25,840 Speaker 1: would probably be okay with me giving his name, but 351 00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:28,200 Speaker 1: I'm not sure and I don't have time to check 352 00:24:28,240 --> 00:24:31,679 Speaker 1: with him, so I'm not going to do that. But 353 00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:36,840 Speaker 1: he heard me on the radio and uh, and he 354 00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:40,639 Speaker 1: wrote this message, let's see, how are we doing on time? Okay, 355 00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:42,960 Speaker 1: I think I may as well. Yeah, I'm gonna have 356 00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:44,959 Speaker 1: to take a break, and when we come back, I'm 357 00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:47,040 Speaker 1: going to read to you what he said. He and 358 00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:54,280 Speaker 1: the funny thing is he has an exercise that he 359 00:24:54,440 --> 00:25:01,240 Speaker 1: is discovered, a mental exercise, and he wants me and 360 00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:07,919 Speaker 1: all of you possibly to do it, to experiment with it. Now, 361 00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:09,480 Speaker 1: what do you think about that? A guy who's in 362 00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:15,560 Speaker 1: prison wants to do something to put you in his mindset. 363 00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:21,160 Speaker 1: I told you that's why this show is called Strange Things. 364 00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:25,720 Speaker 1: I'm Joshua P. Warren. Yeah, Strange Things on the I 365 00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:30,760 Speaker 1: Heart Radio and Coast to Coast I am Paranormal Podcast Network. 366 00:25:31,760 --> 00:26:09,919 Speaker 1: I'll be back after these important messages. Welcome back to 367 00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:14,800 Speaker 1: Strange Things on the I Heart Radio and Coast to Coast. 368 00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:19,639 Speaker 1: I am para normal podcast Network. I'm your host, Joshua 369 00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:23,240 Speaker 1: Pee Warren, and this is the show where the unusual 370 00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:31,919 Speaker 1: becomes usual. For well over ten years, I have worked 371 00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:37,359 Speaker 1: on television projects with Zach Began's who, of course, is 372 00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:41,919 Speaker 1: the host of Ghost Adventures on what was originally on 373 00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:45,200 Speaker 1: the Travel Channel and now it's it's on other places. 374 00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:49,120 Speaker 1: Um we did. I've been on Ghost Adventures a number 375 00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:51,760 Speaker 1: of times. And then let's see, I was on the 376 00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:55,639 Speaker 1: Paranormal Challenge, which he produced. I was on every episode 377 00:26:55,680 --> 00:27:00,000 Speaker 1: of Paranormal Papa Rozzi, which he produced. Um, we've worked 378 00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:05,679 Speaker 1: on other projects. And Zach has this museum here in 379 00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:11,359 Speaker 1: Las Vegas called the Haunted Museum, And when it comes 380 00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:14,919 Speaker 1: to the topic of serial killers and people who have 381 00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:21,440 Speaker 1: done horrible things, uh, the Haunted Museum is I think 382 00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:30,080 Speaker 1: unmatched and how it uh presents the most terrible aspects 383 00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:33,280 Speaker 1: of humankind. Uh. And let me tell you, I've been 384 00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:36,480 Speaker 1: to a lot of morbid places, Like I've been to 385 00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:39,399 Speaker 1: the Museum of Death in Los Angeles, and I've been 386 00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:44,760 Speaker 1: to the Motor Museum, uh Moon or Museum whatever in Philadelphia, 387 00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:50,000 Speaker 1: the UM National Pathology Museum. I mean, I've seen some, 388 00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:56,200 Speaker 1: you know, pretty gruesome collections. But but Zack's place, it's 389 00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:59,000 Speaker 1: not a fun house by any means. I mean, when 390 00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:04,360 Speaker 1: you go in there, he is featuring, um, the worst 391 00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:09,920 Speaker 1: of the worst serial killers and things that that they've done, 392 00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:13,920 Speaker 1: and ghosts that are attached to the things that they've done. 393 00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:16,760 Speaker 1: And I actually the last time I went there, I 394 00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:21,399 Speaker 1: literally had nightmares that night. I've been there numerous times 395 00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:23,800 Speaker 1: because you know, a lot of people come into Vegas 396 00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:25,960 Speaker 1: and if they want to visit, they say, what is 397 00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:28,000 Speaker 1: there to do? And of course they're like, oh, I 398 00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:30,960 Speaker 1: want to go to the Haunted Museum. And and let 399 00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:35,000 Speaker 1: me just tell you, if you can handle it, then 400 00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:38,760 Speaker 1: you should go see it, because it is astounding what 401 00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:41,040 Speaker 1: he has put together. I could. I mean I got 402 00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:43,120 Speaker 1: to go in there, and he personally gave me a 403 00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:46,520 Speaker 1: behind the scenes tour, just one on one of everything 404 00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:51,000 Speaker 1: before the museum even opened. Uh. And and it's only 405 00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:54,600 Speaker 1: gotten bigger and more elaborate since then. And let me 406 00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:58,240 Speaker 1: just tell you, I can't believe all the effort and 407 00:28:58,320 --> 00:29:01,640 Speaker 1: money and time that Zach Bagan's put into creating this 408 00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:04,600 Speaker 1: Haunted Museum. It's there's there's nothing else like it in 409 00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:08,800 Speaker 1: the world. But it is really truly disturbing if you 410 00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:13,440 Speaker 1: can't handle going in and seeing the worst of humankind. 411 00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:17,640 Speaker 1: And uh, you know, that's one of the reasons that 412 00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:24,480 Speaker 1: I am am hesitant when it comes to digging into 413 00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:28,360 Speaker 1: people who do dark things. That's because I I don't 414 00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:31,680 Speaker 1: want to dwell on that and haven't sort of those 415 00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:35,320 Speaker 1: thoughts kind of like effect or infect my thinking, you 416 00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:39,080 Speaker 1: know in some way. But this guy who wrote me 417 00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:41,320 Speaker 1: this letter, he's not one of those types. He was 418 00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:45,800 Speaker 1: convicted on robbery. And let me tell you, robbery, that 419 00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:48,160 Speaker 1: is a terrible thing. Uh. You know, when I was 420 00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:51,360 Speaker 1: a kid, I got home one day from school and 421 00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:54,200 Speaker 1: somebody had broken into our house and stole a bunch 422 00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:58,000 Speaker 1: of stuff, including some things that were very valuable to me, 423 00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:01,640 Speaker 1: some things that I personally treasure. They stole a camera 424 00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:05,200 Speaker 1: that had photographs in it. Um, they stole my go kart. 425 00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:08,400 Speaker 1: My dad had bequeathed me some things and they stole 426 00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:13,000 Speaker 1: those things. And let me tell you, robbery is nothing, uh, 427 00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:15,600 Speaker 1: nothing to shake off. I mean, that's a bad thing. 428 00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:20,040 Speaker 1: That's a horrible thing to rob something from somebody. So 429 00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:23,920 Speaker 1: this man was convicted of robbery, and again he's in Texas. 430 00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:27,280 Speaker 1: He's serving eighteen years. I don't know how much of 431 00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:30,600 Speaker 1: that he's served, but anyway, let me get it right. 432 00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:35,560 Speaker 1: Into his letter, he says, I was wondering if you 433 00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:40,240 Speaker 1: could validate or debunk an experience I have had with 434 00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:48,040 Speaker 1: delving behind the scenes of reality. I can only explain 435 00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:53,400 Speaker 1: it as a comparison to exploring the inner workings of 436 00:30:53,480 --> 00:31:02,080 Speaker 1: a video game while it is paused. If possible, please 437 00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:06,560 Speaker 1: snell melmy. And he gave me his address and everything. Uh. 438 00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:10,120 Speaker 1: He says, I'm confident you will have questions after you 439 00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:16,280 Speaker 1: try this exercise and see what I'm talking about. And 440 00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:19,360 Speaker 1: I'm reading this as a handwritten letter, so if if 441 00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:22,120 Speaker 1: I stumble a little bit just because maybe the writing 442 00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:25,040 Speaker 1: is uh, you know, it's it's actually pretty good writing, 443 00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:26,720 Speaker 1: but it might be a little bit sloppy here and there. 444 00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:29,600 Speaker 1: So here we go. He says. The exercise is more 445 00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:34,560 Speaker 1: effective when you try it immediately after you wake or 446 00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:39,760 Speaker 1: before you go to bed. It's a lot easier when 447 00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:44,160 Speaker 1: you wake around three thirty a m. And try it out. 448 00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:53,400 Speaker 1: Here are these steps. Number one, as soon as you awaken, 449 00:31:55,000 --> 00:32:02,880 Speaker 1: lay on your side and close your eyes. Number two, relax, 450 00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:11,120 Speaker 1: clear your mind of worrying thoughts and tasks. Number three, 451 00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:17,240 Speaker 1: Stare at your closed eyelids without darting your eyes around 452 00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:25,080 Speaker 1: or moving your lids. Number four, focus on the far 453 00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:32,840 Speaker 1: distant image fuzz or smudge that you see. It may 454 00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:39,440 Speaker 1: dance around or play around like Mickey mouse. Number five, 455 00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:44,480 Speaker 1: as it moves and shifts, do not, and he puts 456 00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:47,640 Speaker 1: in capital letters, do not follow it with your eyes, 457 00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:54,960 Speaker 1: keep them looking forward. Number six. When you start seeing 458 00:32:55,080 --> 00:33:03,600 Speaker 1: a moving image, walking, running, climbing, etcetera. Just keep looking 459 00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:11,760 Speaker 1: forward number seven. Out of the blue, your eyelids will 460 00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:18,520 Speaker 1: beam into a projector where you vividly see you are 461 00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:24,640 Speaker 1: someplace else. You can even consciously move your foot to 462 00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:32,560 Speaker 1: ensure you're still awake. Sometimes the projector will drift in 463 00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:36,920 Speaker 1: and out, but once everything is completely clear, you are 464 00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:41,880 Speaker 1: free to walk and explore. This is not lucid dreaming, 465 00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:49,640 Speaker 1: but you can imagine any weapon, food, or scenario. Go 466 00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:53,880 Speaker 1: around a corner or looking a bin, and it will 467 00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:59,480 Speaker 1: be there, and you can terminate the experience at will. 468 00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:07,880 Speaker 1: What place you land in difference, But normally a teddy 469 00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:12,879 Speaker 1: bear will pop up from me when I grab it. 470 00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:19,120 Speaker 1: For this, uh, when I grab for it. This enables 471 00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:25,160 Speaker 1: me to walk and explore. I must warn you that 472 00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:29,920 Speaker 1: sometimes the initial projection will scare you so bad you 473 00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:36,240 Speaker 1: will open your eyes and tap out, But practice the steps. 474 00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:39,040 Speaker 1: Sometimes it takes me up to thirty minutes to set 475 00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:45,400 Speaker 1: the projection. Sometimes I struggle between the playing mouth stinky stages. 476 00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:49,279 Speaker 1: Just sometimes I go right in. The strange part is 477 00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:54,600 Speaker 1: that other people are there exploring like you. Some will 478 00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:58,799 Speaker 1: conjure weapons to attack you, and you can do the same. 479 00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:03,440 Speaker 1: But I imagine they two are real people that found 480 00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:08,600 Speaker 1: themselves there. You will know it's not a lucid dream 481 00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:12,520 Speaker 1: because you still have to focus on not opening your eyes, 482 00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:20,399 Speaker 1: and your trip there was intentional. I recommend you ask 483 00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:25,640 Speaker 1: particular people to try the exercise, like those who claim 484 00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:30,399 Speaker 1: things mysteriously catch on fire. That shouldn't okay, he says, 485 00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:33,480 Speaker 1: But don't tell them what they will or should experience. 486 00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:37,879 Speaker 1: Let them tell you so as to preserve the integrity 487 00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:42,960 Speaker 1: of the exercise. I learned the exercise by complete accident, 488 00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:45,879 Speaker 1: but it did not surprise me since I've experienced all 489 00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:53,560 Speaker 1: sorts of paranormal activity like closing shadow portals. If you 490 00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:56,200 Speaker 1: have any questions, please contact me, and I have his 491 00:35:56,239 --> 00:36:03,520 Speaker 1: infot Wow. Umm, now look, I got this days ago 492 00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:09,799 Speaker 1: and I have not I'm I'm super duper busy right now. 493 00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:13,040 Speaker 1: It's October. It's like the busiest month of my year, 494 00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:17,640 Speaker 1: and I can't wake up and just lay in bed 495 00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:21,080 Speaker 1: for thirty minutes and try this experiment. Um, my mind 496 00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:24,640 Speaker 1: braces and darts a lot anyway. I mean, he's in prison, 497 00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:30,040 Speaker 1: so I mean it's it's probably easier to do when 498 00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:32,080 Speaker 1: when you're in prison and you have nothing else to do. 499 00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:37,840 Speaker 1: But uh, in the future, I'm sure he'll at some point. 500 00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:40,400 Speaker 1: I'm sure somebody will make sure that he hears that 501 00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:44,120 Speaker 1: I read his letter on this podcast and he wants 502 00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:46,759 Speaker 1: me to then reveal more about who he is and 503 00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:50,400 Speaker 1: all that. I will do that, but um, you know, 504 00:36:50,760 --> 00:36:54,800 Speaker 1: he asked me to have others experiment with this, uh, 505 00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:58,360 Speaker 1: And what I've done is past this message along to 506 00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:01,360 Speaker 1: all of you. So now it's gonna be very interesting 507 00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:03,799 Speaker 1: for me to sit back and get your reactions for 508 00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:07,279 Speaker 1: those of you who try this out, and let me 509 00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:12,000 Speaker 1: know if he's onto something or you know, or if 510 00:37:12,040 --> 00:37:15,040 Speaker 1: this is just like some crazy message from a guy 511 00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:19,040 Speaker 1: who's losing his mind behind bars. What do you think? 512 00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:22,360 Speaker 1: Let me know when we come back from this break. 513 00:37:23,239 --> 00:37:25,520 Speaker 1: Some of the people who are in prison who contact 514 00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:32,359 Speaker 1: me say, you're a manifestation expert. How do I manifest 515 00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:38,000 Speaker 1: getting out of prison? And when we come back from 516 00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:41,160 Speaker 1: the break, I'm gonna tell you, um some of my 517 00:37:41,239 --> 00:37:46,320 Speaker 1: thoughts on that. Actually, I'm Joshua P. Warren. You're listening 518 00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:50,400 Speaker 1: to Strange Things on the I Heart Radio and Coast 519 00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:55,799 Speaker 1: to Coast ampera Marble podcast network. I will be all 520 00:37:55,920 --> 00:38:35,160 Speaker 1: right back. Welcome back to the final segment of this edition. 521 00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:38,760 Speaker 1: Of Strange Things on the I Heart Radio and Coast 522 00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:44,000 Speaker 1: to Coast AM Paranormal podcast Network. I'm your host, Joshua 523 00:38:44,120 --> 00:38:47,080 Speaker 1: pe O Warren, and let me remind you that if 524 00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:51,800 Speaker 1: you drive about half hour thirty minutes from the Vegas Strip, 525 00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:55,080 Speaker 1: you will find the quaint town of Boulder City, Nevada, 526 00:38:56,040 --> 00:38:59,560 Speaker 1: which was created in the nineteen thirties to house the 527 00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:05,480 Speaker 1: work is for the Hoover Dam, and I have the 528 00:39:05,600 --> 00:39:09,880 Speaker 1: Haunted Boulder City Ghost and UFO tour there. It's a 529 00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:14,520 Speaker 1: one hour tour, easy stroll for all ages, and just 530 00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:16,480 Speaker 1: to give you an idea of some of the spooky 531 00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:19,960 Speaker 1: things about that town and why it's haunted. You know, 532 00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:27,480 Speaker 1: a very few people realize that the the first man 533 00:39:27,719 --> 00:39:32,319 Speaker 1: to die on that project building the Hoover Dam was 534 00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:35,160 Speaker 1: a man named J. G. Tierney. He was a surveyor 535 00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:41,680 Speaker 1: and he slipped from a barge and drowned the morning 536 00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:46,200 Speaker 1: of December twenty, nineteen, two first man to die on 537 00:39:46,239 --> 00:39:51,080 Speaker 1: the project. The last man to die on the project 538 00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:59,640 Speaker 1: was his son, Patrick Tierney. He died on the exact 539 00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:06,239 Speaker 1: same day, December twenty of nineteen thirty five, when he 540 00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:10,960 Speaker 1: felt his death from an intake tower isn't Doesn't that 541 00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:15,960 Speaker 1: give you goose bumps? The first man dies and then 542 00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:18,799 Speaker 1: thirteen years later his son becomes the last man to 543 00:40:18,880 --> 00:40:22,839 Speaker 1: die on the day. There were about a hundred men 544 00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:25,280 Speaker 1: who died total on that project, and that just helps 545 00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:28,800 Speaker 1: set the stage. So anyway, look, if you're in town, 546 00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:33,080 Speaker 1: go do it. Haunted Boulder City dot com. Haunted Boulder 547 00:40:33,120 --> 00:40:37,399 Speaker 1: City dot com. We run year round as long as 548 00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:39,719 Speaker 1: we have reservations. You know, there are some nights that 549 00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:42,400 Speaker 1: are like the weather is a little off or whatever, 550 00:40:42,560 --> 00:40:46,160 Speaker 1: but we more or less run year round Haunted Boulder 551 00:40:46,160 --> 00:40:50,000 Speaker 1: City dot com. So, like I told you, some prisoners 552 00:40:50,080 --> 00:40:52,120 Speaker 1: they contact me and they ask about, you know, how 553 00:40:52,160 --> 00:40:54,279 Speaker 1: to manifest getting out of jail and that kind of thing. 554 00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:58,200 Speaker 1: You know. Um, it goes back to how do you 555 00:40:58,280 --> 00:41:02,640 Speaker 1: manifest anything? And here's one thing I think it's important. 556 00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:05,480 Speaker 1: I was talking to my wife Lauren the other day 557 00:41:05,520 --> 00:41:11,160 Speaker 1: about the story of the Gordian Not, which is an 558 00:41:11,239 --> 00:41:17,399 Speaker 1: ancient Greek legend, and the legend says that, um, there 559 00:41:17,520 --> 00:41:24,520 Speaker 1: was this city, let's see what was called Figerian or 560 00:41:24,560 --> 00:41:26,319 Speaker 1: something like that. I don't know, I don't I don't 561 00:41:26,480 --> 00:41:29,480 Speaker 1: know how they pronounced these Greek things. But anyway, this 562 00:41:29,520 --> 00:41:34,120 Speaker 1: city didn't have a king, and an oracle there decreed 563 00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:37,680 Speaker 1: that the next man to enter the city driving an 564 00:41:37,680 --> 00:41:42,919 Speaker 1: ox cart should should become their king. Well, sure enough, 565 00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:46,319 Speaker 1: this peasant farmer came into town with an ox cart, 566 00:41:46,400 --> 00:41:50,000 Speaker 1: and his name was Gordeous, and they immediately declared him king. 567 00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:54,319 Speaker 1: That's how desperate they got, and he was apparently a 568 00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:58,640 Speaker 1: really good king. And so for gratitude, uh, he took 569 00:41:58,680 --> 00:42:04,200 Speaker 1: that ox cart and he connected it to a big 570 00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:10,320 Speaker 1: post in the town with this extremely complicated, elaborate knot, 571 00:42:11,080 --> 00:42:15,680 Speaker 1: and he said, um, that you know this, This is 572 00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:21,120 Speaker 1: so tightly entangled. It's impossible, uh to see how this 573 00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:24,520 Speaker 1: knot has put together. And so this other oracle said 574 00:42:24,560 --> 00:42:28,880 Speaker 1: that any man who could unravel that knot was destined 575 00:42:28,920 --> 00:42:32,880 Speaker 1: to become the ruler of all Asia. And it was 576 00:42:32,960 --> 00:42:35,760 Speaker 1: that way for many many years until Alexander the Great 577 00:42:35,840 --> 00:42:39,560 Speaker 1: came through. And he when he got to that town, 578 00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:43,399 Speaker 1: he struggled to untie this knot, and he couldn't do it, 579 00:42:44,440 --> 00:42:47,359 Speaker 1: and so finally he said, well, it doesn't matter how 580 00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:50,960 Speaker 1: it's loosed. So he drew his sword and sliced it 581 00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:57,120 Speaker 1: in half with a single stroke, and sure enough he 582 00:42:57,400 --> 00:43:00,960 Speaker 1: went on to conquer all of Asia and that day 583 00:43:00,960 --> 00:43:04,360 Speaker 1: and age, fulfilling the prophecy. The point to that story 584 00:43:04,640 --> 00:43:08,280 Speaker 1: is that when you want to manifest something, you can't 585 00:43:08,360 --> 00:43:11,120 Speaker 1: just wish for it. You also have to take action. 586 00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:18,120 Speaker 1: Um here's a portion of my book Use the Force, 587 00:43:18,200 --> 00:43:20,960 Speaker 1: a Jedi's Guide to the Law of Attraction. Perhaps the 588 00:43:21,040 --> 00:43:25,120 Speaker 1: single most underestimated aspect of the law of attraction is 589 00:43:25,160 --> 00:43:29,080 Speaker 1: the simple ability to receive the things you are manifesting. 590 00:43:29,960 --> 00:43:33,880 Speaker 1: This certainly seems weird and counterintuitive. After all, what's so 591 00:43:34,040 --> 00:43:36,799 Speaker 1: hard about sitting back and reaping the benefits of your 592 00:43:36,800 --> 00:43:40,360 Speaker 1: mind power. The problem is that receiving is not simply 593 00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:44,399 Speaker 1: a passive process. It also takes some effort and great 594 00:43:44,440 --> 00:43:48,440 Speaker 1: awareness on your part. The things you manifest can only 595 00:43:48,480 --> 00:43:51,960 Speaker 1: appear by way of the natural laws in the real world. 596 00:43:52,320 --> 00:43:54,200 Speaker 1: That means, if you wish for a pot of gold, 597 00:43:54,239 --> 00:43:57,319 Speaker 1: it's not going to simply magically materialize out of thin 598 00:43:57,400 --> 00:44:01,280 Speaker 1: air and fall at your feet. If only lepre cons 599 00:44:01,280 --> 00:44:05,520 Speaker 1: were real, you cannot just lazily sit back, relying on 600 00:44:05,600 --> 00:44:10,480 Speaker 1: your personal gravity alone to attract the grand things you desire. Instead, 601 00:44:10,560 --> 00:44:15,719 Speaker 1: you most actively participate in the world, expecting to see 602 00:44:16,120 --> 00:44:21,160 Speaker 1: positive things start to freely appear in your life. Thomas 603 00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:24,080 Speaker 1: Jefferson is said to have stated, quote, I am a 604 00:44:24,120 --> 00:44:28,440 Speaker 1: great believer in luck, and I find the harder I work, 605 00:44:28,680 --> 00:44:33,799 Speaker 1: the more I have of it end quote, And as 606 00:44:33,880 --> 00:44:38,920 Speaker 1: the wildly successful Jack Canfield, creator of Chicken Soup for 607 00:44:38,920 --> 00:44:46,520 Speaker 1: the Soul, often says the last word and attraction is action. Generally, 608 00:44:46,560 --> 00:44:49,680 Speaker 1: when you want to materialize something significant and develop the 609 00:44:49,800 --> 00:44:53,960 Speaker 1: right attitude, you will quickly see signs that your mindset 610 00:44:54,080 --> 00:44:58,160 Speaker 1: is paying off. Little things will pop up each day. 611 00:44:58,440 --> 00:45:00,840 Speaker 1: You might find the item you w at the grocery 612 00:45:00,880 --> 00:45:04,240 Speaker 1: store happens to be on sale that day, or someone 613 00:45:04,360 --> 00:45:07,040 Speaker 1: may invite you to go ahead of them in line. 614 00:45:08,080 --> 00:45:10,960 Speaker 1: Maybe a stranger will give you a nice compliment, or 615 00:45:11,680 --> 00:45:14,040 Speaker 1: you'll make it back to your house just before it 616 00:45:14,120 --> 00:45:19,000 Speaker 1: starts to rain. If you're wishing for financial opportunities, you 617 00:45:19,040 --> 00:45:23,240 Speaker 1: may literally begin to see money and other valuables lying around. 618 00:45:23,680 --> 00:45:26,560 Speaker 1: And whenever you see these things, pick them up and 619 00:45:26,640 --> 00:45:30,600 Speaker 1: take them except what's being given, and feel grateful for 620 00:45:30,680 --> 00:45:36,120 Speaker 1: these gestures of generosity made by the universe. Remember the adage, 621 00:45:36,160 --> 00:45:38,200 Speaker 1: find a penny, pick it up, and all day long 622 00:45:39,080 --> 00:45:42,000 Speaker 1: you'll have good luck. That's a passage from my book 623 00:45:42,120 --> 00:45:44,520 Speaker 1: Used the Force, A Jedi's Guide to the Law of Attraction. 624 00:45:45,120 --> 00:45:47,520 Speaker 1: If you go to Joshua P. Warren dot com, you'll 625 00:45:47,560 --> 00:45:51,120 Speaker 1: see uh currently on the top right hand corner a 626 00:45:51,160 --> 00:45:53,080 Speaker 1: picture of that book, and if you click on it 627 00:45:53,440 --> 00:45:57,120 Speaker 1: then you can you can download it. You can buy 628 00:45:57,120 --> 00:46:01,120 Speaker 1: a physical copy, or you can listen to me read 629 00:46:01,200 --> 00:46:04,680 Speaker 1: the whole darn thing as an audio book through Audible 630 00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:07,640 Speaker 1: and I don't know it takes hours and hours, but 631 00:46:07,680 --> 00:46:09,759 Speaker 1: I've recorded it in Puerto Rico and a lot of 632 00:46:09,800 --> 00:46:13,279 Speaker 1: people love it. Look at the reviews. Um whatever you're 633 00:46:13,320 --> 00:46:17,840 Speaker 1: trying to manifest, place your intention and then take some action. 634 00:46:18,280 --> 00:46:21,320 Speaker 1: It's like, for example, here, I live in Las Vegas 635 00:46:21,360 --> 00:46:24,680 Speaker 1: and I'm now, especially now that i'm middle age, I'm 636 00:46:24,680 --> 00:46:28,480 Speaker 1: always trying to lose weight. I think we all can 637 00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:31,440 Speaker 1: relate to that. But it's super hard when you live 638 00:46:31,440 --> 00:46:34,640 Speaker 1: in Las Vegas. I mean, in this day and age, 639 00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:36,279 Speaker 1: you can you know it as you can get your 640 00:46:36,320 --> 00:46:41,120 Speaker 1: phone and go click, click, and have it delivered. And 641 00:46:41,200 --> 00:46:43,120 Speaker 1: this is a twenty four hour a daytown. I can 642 00:46:43,120 --> 00:46:46,000 Speaker 1: get almost anything I want delivered here twenty four hours 643 00:46:46,000 --> 00:46:48,600 Speaker 1: a day. You're sitting there at three in the morning 644 00:46:48,680 --> 00:46:51,520 Speaker 1: and you go, you know what, maybe a pizza would 645 00:46:51,560 --> 00:46:54,000 Speaker 1: be good. Right now? There a Philly cheese steakers. I 646 00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:57,160 Speaker 1: mean I I I live within my house is within 647 00:46:57,280 --> 00:47:01,480 Speaker 1: walking distance of a bar and restaurant that's open twenty 648 00:47:01,480 --> 00:47:05,880 Speaker 1: four hours a day, serving drinks twenty four hours a day, 649 00:47:06,200 --> 00:47:09,239 Speaker 1: gambling twenty four hours a day, and some of the 650 00:47:09,280 --> 00:47:12,240 Speaker 1: best pizza in Las Vegas twenty four hours a day. 651 00:47:12,360 --> 00:47:17,319 Speaker 1: I'm probably screwed here. And so yes, I you know, 652 00:47:17,360 --> 00:47:20,000 Speaker 1: I set one of my boxes like I'm gonna lose weight, 653 00:47:20,000 --> 00:47:22,239 Speaker 1: gonna lose weight. But I don't just set it and 654 00:47:22,239 --> 00:47:27,320 Speaker 1: be like, now this is magically gonna happen. That subconsciously 655 00:47:27,320 --> 00:47:33,520 Speaker 1: helps me to start thinking more about making good decisions. Uh, 656 00:47:33,640 --> 00:47:36,279 Speaker 1: one decision at a time. And you know, like I 657 00:47:36,360 --> 00:47:38,279 Speaker 1: have a little board. I was like, I'm gonna buy 658 00:47:38,320 --> 00:47:42,560 Speaker 1: a little up dry erase board and start counting my calories. 659 00:47:43,560 --> 00:47:46,040 Speaker 1: And that's how you start just like little things like that. 660 00:47:46,160 --> 00:47:49,400 Speaker 1: Every time you put something in your mouth, you go, Okay, 661 00:47:49,480 --> 00:47:53,239 Speaker 1: how many calories? And I know that sucks, but you 662 00:47:53,280 --> 00:47:56,120 Speaker 1: have to start participating in the process if you expect 663 00:47:56,160 --> 00:47:59,920 Speaker 1: any results. I don't know if I'm gonna man, I 664 00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:03,040 Speaker 1: fest what I want, but maybe I'll do a better 665 00:48:03,120 --> 00:48:07,080 Speaker 1: job than I would have otherwise. I think you get 666 00:48:07,080 --> 00:48:11,279 Speaker 1: the point. That's how you go about manifesting anything, so 667 00:48:11,480 --> 00:48:16,320 Speaker 1: you dwell on that and put that into context. Um boy, 668 00:48:16,800 --> 00:48:18,640 Speaker 1: there is so much more I wanted to talk to 669 00:48:18,640 --> 00:48:21,279 Speaker 1: you about, but we are out of time. So here 670 00:48:21,360 --> 00:48:24,239 Speaker 1: is what we can all do together. We can all 671 00:48:24,280 --> 00:48:28,080 Speaker 1: just stop thinking for a moment and we can relax. 672 00:48:28,400 --> 00:48:31,320 Speaker 1: If you can close your eyes, take a deep breath, 673 00:48:32,400 --> 00:48:35,279 Speaker 1: and listen to this tone, the good Fortune tone. It 674 00:48:35,360 --> 00:48:38,080 Speaker 1: has done so much for people. I get emails all 675 00:48:38,120 --> 00:48:41,160 Speaker 1: the time saying just listening to this tone is improving 676 00:48:41,200 --> 00:48:44,160 Speaker 1: my life. And if you have some beverage around, you 677 00:48:44,239 --> 00:48:45,640 Speaker 1: might even want to put it in front of the 678 00:48:45,719 --> 00:48:50,239 Speaker 1: speaker and play the tone with that beverage next to it, 679 00:48:50,280 --> 00:48:52,439 Speaker 1: and then later drink the beverage. A lot of people 680 00:48:52,520 --> 00:48:55,759 Speaker 1: say they've had success with that. So here we go, 681 00:48:56,360 --> 00:48:59,880 Speaker 1: kick back, relax, and enjoy the one and only, are 682 00:49:00,000 --> 00:49:28,040 Speaker 1: original Good Fortune Tom. That's it for this edition of 683 00:49:28,080 --> 00:49:31,440 Speaker 1: the show. Follow me on Twitter at Joshua pe Warren, 684 00:49:31,920 --> 00:49:35,160 Speaker 1: Plus visit Joshua pe warren dot com to sign up 685 00:49:35,200 --> 00:49:39,040 Speaker 1: for my free e newsletter to receive a free instant 686 00:49:39,080 --> 00:49:42,680 Speaker 1: gift and check out the cool Stuff and the Curiosity 687 00:49:42,760 --> 00:49:46,440 Speaker 1: Shop all at Joshua pe Warren dot com. I have 688 00:49:46,560 --> 00:49:49,400 Speaker 1: a fun one lined up for you next time, I promise, 689 00:49:50,000 --> 00:49:53,040 Speaker 1: so please tell all your friends to subscribe to this 690 00:49:53,160 --> 00:49:58,239 Speaker 1: show and to always remember the Golden Rule. Thank you 691 00:49:58,280 --> 00:50:02,400 Speaker 1: for listening, thank you for your interest in support, thank 692 00:50:02,440 --> 00:50:06,080 Speaker 1: you for staying curious, and I We'll talk to you 693 00:50:06,680 --> 00:50:11,560 Speaker 1: again soon. You've been listening to Strange Things on the 694 00:50:11,600 --> 00:50:14,640 Speaker 1: I Heart Radio and Coast to Coast st a Um 695 00:50:14,800 --> 00:50:27,799 Speaker 1: Paranormal Podcast Network. Thanks for listening to the I Heart 696 00:50:27,880 --> 00:50:30,720 Speaker 1: Radio and Coast to Coast Day and Paranormal Podcast Network. 697 00:50:30,840 --> 00:50:33,279 Speaker 1: Make sure and check out all our shows on the 698 00:50:33,320 --> 00:50:35,839 Speaker 1: I Heart Radio app or by going to I heart 699 00:50:35,920 --> 00:50:41,720 Speaker 1: radio dot com