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Speaker 1: to be remitting for water intrusion like a licensed plant

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00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:22,680
Speaker 1: I would do you know, or a licensed electrician would

427
00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:25,800
Speaker 1: manage you know, the electrical side. And the reason why

428
00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:29,080
Speaker 1: I got into this was really over something very trivial,

429
00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:31,200
Speaker 1: but to me it was big because I own a

430
00:24:31,240 --> 00:24:34,960
Speaker 1: rental property as well. UM. We were we had moved

431
00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:38,440
Speaker 1: out charges at Camp Pendleton, UM. It was our third

432
00:24:38,520 --> 00:24:41,840
Speaker 1: duty station, and it was something I fought with Lincoln

433
00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:45,800
Speaker 1: Military Housing for an entire year. And one of the

434
00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:48,240
Speaker 1: problems that I noticed is that there was no redressed.

435
00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:52,480
Speaker 1: So in California. UM. You know, if if you're a landlord,

436
00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:56,280
Speaker 1: if Lincoln Military Housing sends you to collections, you can't

437
00:24:56,359 --> 00:25:00,199
Speaker 1: file in state court to disuse those collection charge is

438
00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:03,320
Speaker 1: you literally pay it or it goes on your credit

439
00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:06,280
Speaker 1: report and then it goes against obviously your spouse is

440
00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:09,919
Speaker 1: clearance or your clearance if your government employee. UM. So

441
00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:14,080
Speaker 1: there is no redress within the local UM stage systems.

442
00:25:14,119 --> 00:25:15,400
Speaker 1: And so I was just like, oh my god, if

443
00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:18,640
Speaker 1: this is happening in California, what's happening in other places?

444
00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:20,600
Speaker 1: I mean, my whole family is military. My brother just

445
00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:23,320
Speaker 1: got out on ninety percent disability out of the army

446
00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:26,560
Speaker 1: at thirty four years old. So you know, this this

447
00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:29,359
Speaker 1: really circles around, as you know, dear to my heart,

448
00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:33,159
Speaker 1: because military families, you know, we are a military family.

449
00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:37,639
Speaker 1: And as I started getting into this, I said, you know,

450
00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:40,000
Speaker 1: I started reaching out to Fort Polk, I started reaching

451
00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:43,080
Speaker 1: out to Benny, I started reaching out to Campbell Union

452
00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:45,959
Speaker 1: and just all these bases. And then I found this

453
00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:49,359
Speaker 1: UM web page. I found this UM Facebook page was

454
00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:51,920
Speaker 1: called led Mold Asbestos at the time, and it was

455
00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:56,160
Speaker 1: ran by UM Darlina Brown, who was in the first

456
00:25:56,320 --> 00:26:00,879
Speaker 1: Ruder story about the lead poisoning. So Darlena and I

457
00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:05,840
Speaker 1: kind of hooked up, and then UM and all that networking.

458
00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:08,880
Speaker 1: The Reuters story came out, and then I started sending

459
00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:11,719
Speaker 1: information to Reuters and that's how I met Lee and

460
00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:15,000
Speaker 1: all of these other folks have really wanted to try

461
00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:18,280
Speaker 1: to help us UM, and so far, based on the

462
00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:21,240
Speaker 1: Facebook stats on that page, we've grown that page on

463
00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:25,000
Speaker 1: this two thousand members just a few months, and we

464
00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:29,200
Speaker 1: have reached over a hundred basis both in the country

465
00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:33,520
Speaker 1: and outside of the country for pervasive housing problems. Before

466
00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:36,560
Speaker 1: we get into some of the larger, big picture issues

467
00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:38,720
Speaker 1: that I definitely want to talk about, I was wondering

468
00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:41,440
Speaker 1: if you could speak a little bit more about how

469
00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:46,240
Speaker 1: the maintenance issues on these on post housing units deviate

470
00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:50,240
Speaker 1: from what are normal industry standards. Um, how is it

471
00:26:50,359 --> 00:26:53,680
Speaker 1: different than you know, if you lived you know, actually

472
00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:59,600
Speaker 1: off base somewhere, Lee, do you want to talk about

473
00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:02,959
Speaker 1: that are on me too? So for what I know

474
00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:07,480
Speaker 1: about you know, mold, everything needs to be sealed off

475
00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:11,800
Speaker 1: in the house. Um, family members including pets need to

476
00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:16,440
Speaker 1: be away from the premise because these spores become airborne

477
00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:20,280
Speaker 1: again and um, you know can people can develop some

478
00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:24,200
Speaker 1: severe respiratory issues and also infections due to the mold

479
00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:28,080
Speaker 1: spores being throughout the house. Um. When ours was treated,

480
00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:31,119
Speaker 1: there was some tarps put down on my kidsen table

481
00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:33,160
Speaker 1: and on the bed. I was never told to leave

482
00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:36,679
Speaker 1: the house. My kids and I were in our house

483
00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:40,800
Speaker 1: while this was going on. So if you know this

484
00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:46,679
Speaker 1: was in say a rental property off base, absolutely there

485
00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:48,879
Speaker 1: would be recourse for me. But there was nothing that

486
00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:51,760
Speaker 1: I could do in the situation other than ask and

487
00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:55,880
Speaker 1: ask and ask mm hmm. And so there's no there's

488
00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:58,960
Speaker 1: no legal recourse. UM, in the conventional sense that you

489
00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:01,560
Speaker 1: can't as as I think Crystal was pointing out, you

490
00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:04,760
Speaker 1: can't just go to a state court or a district

491
00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:09,600
Speaker 1: court or town court, civil court. Right, no, great. Frankly,

492
00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:12,000
Speaker 1: I was calling around all over the place, all living there.

493
00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:15,480
Speaker 1: I was calling home inspectors, and no one wanted to

494
00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:19,680
Speaker 1: help me out because of just the huge corporation. I

495
00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:23,119
Speaker 1: thought it that is they're quite Frankly, it seemed almost

496
00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:26,040
Speaker 1: scared to come on base since one guy said, well,

497
00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:30,120
Speaker 1: I can come on like after the sun sets and

498
00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:33,560
Speaker 1: take a look for you if you'd like. Not dealing

499
00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:37,800
Speaker 1: with that, like, yeah, yeah, I have a property and

500
00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:40,720
Speaker 1: have lot in North Carolina, which is great. It's every point.

501
00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:44,080
Speaker 1: So we actually have military tenants in our home, and

502
00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:47,960
Speaker 1: our home is damage because of the recent hurricane that

503
00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:49,960
Speaker 1: just came through and it took us, you know, a

504
00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:52,080
Speaker 1: couple of months to get the roof fixed, but we

505
00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:55,719
Speaker 1: had water damage. Um. But if there was no damage

506
00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:59,840
Speaker 1: inside the home, I would be regally liable within a

507
00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:03,800
Speaker 1: usable amount of time in a devastated area to make

508
00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:05,920
Speaker 1: sure that my tenants had a safe home. I am

509
00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:09,640
Speaker 1: required by law, by habitability laws in North Carolina to

510
00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:14,480
Speaker 1: ensure that damage is repaired promptly as promptly as possible, um,

511
00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:18,240
Speaker 1: and that the family is not exposed to know any

512
00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:21,640
Speaker 1: kind of harm like mold. Now, if you were living

513
00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:24,640
Speaker 1: at say Camp Lejeune, which um, they have a really

514
00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:26,880
Speaker 1: big more problem there be well they had a more

515
00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:28,840
Speaker 1: problem before the storm, but now it's even worse. I

516
00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:31,720
Speaker 1: actually stood under the ceiling of one of the Marine

517
00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:35,120
Speaker 1: Corps families as it was essentially about the cave in

518
00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:40,520
Speaker 1: over my head at Thanksgiving this year, and that family

519
00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:43,200
Speaker 1: has no recourse. They've gone to Jazz, They've gone to

520
00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:45,360
Speaker 1: their health and providers. They gone, they went to the

521
00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:48,600
Speaker 1: other healthy provider because there's actually too on Campbell Jun's

522
00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:50,720
Speaker 1: and they told her that they couldn't give her a home.

523
00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:53,920
Speaker 1: There was no home. Um, they went to their command.

524
00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:55,760
Speaker 1: The command said, look, you know, there's not a lot

525
00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:58,760
Speaker 1: we can do. There's there's no control within the command

526
00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:02,440
Speaker 1: element of power for even you know, Colonel's just saying, hey, look,

527
00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:06,920
Speaker 1: you need to fix this. There's no accountability. And and

528
00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:09,400
Speaker 1: it's not to the detriment of the military, like it's

529
00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:12,160
Speaker 1: not necessarily their fault. These commanders at these bubbles, they

530
00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:15,400
Speaker 1: didn't write these contracts. They're they're just trying to run

531
00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:17,960
Speaker 1: a command just like everybody else is. They're they're trying

532
00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:20,760
Speaker 1: to fight us seventeen year long war, just like everybody

533
00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:23,240
Speaker 1: else in the military, and they just don't have the

534
00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:26,560
Speaker 1: time or the researchers or the power to address some

535
00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:29,920
Speaker 1: of these small arm was not really a small housing problem,

536
00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:32,440
Speaker 1: but like the families who whose group was keeping and

537
00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:34,640
Speaker 1: they had three small children in our home and I

538
00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:37,400
Speaker 1: could hear their coffee, I could see the mold growing

539
00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:40,160
Speaker 1: out of the ceiling. I mean when you're standing under that.

540
00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:43,280
Speaker 1: I've never really been exposed to mold, but I left

541
00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:47,160
Speaker 1: there after an hour in our house with like struggling

542
00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:50,440
Speaker 1: to breathe and not even kidding. I mean, the black

543
00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:52,760
Speaker 1: mold issue is so serious. I mean, I was working

544
00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:55,960
Speaker 1: on this TV show a year ago and there's this

545
00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:59,120
Speaker 1: um it was actually uh Nicola Tesla's laboratory, and we're

546
00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:01,440
Speaker 1: all excited to like go inside it and finally see it,

547
00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:04,000
Speaker 1: and they're like, who WHOA stop right there, there's black

548
00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:05,800
Speaker 1: mold in that place, and you can't go in there

549
00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:08,640
Speaker 1: unless you're wearing like in the military we call mop

550
00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:11,800
Speaker 1: mop level four, like the full plastic body suit and

551
00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:14,520
Speaker 1: the gas mask, and like that's how serious a black

552
00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:19,160
Speaker 1: mold is. I mean absolutely, I mean stachybotrs is is

553
00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:21,480
Speaker 1: not a joke. And we so we've had some testing

554
00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:24,520
Speaker 1: done um in some of the houses acrost the nation,

555
00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:29,160
Speaker 1: and we have found elements um of stacky batras um

556
00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:32,239
Speaker 1: penatilla and asked for jealous, asked for jealous. These are

557
00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:35,760
Speaker 1: all different types of funguses, right, correct, Yeah, there's different

558
00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:38,800
Speaker 1: types of mold, right, and stacky is the stacky is

559
00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:42,360
Speaker 1: actually what is considered true black mold. Penstilla that's for

560
00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:46,240
Speaker 1: jealous is another kind of mold, and it's also a

561
00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:51,280
Speaker 1: toxic mold which causes um breathing issues and asthma relative

562
00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:54,680
Speaker 1: symptoms and um. Right, So that's what I heard in

563
00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:56,720
Speaker 1: my house, That's what I had, and I think it

564
00:31:56,840 --> 00:32:00,560
Speaker 1: was uh like eight times with the EP I would

565
00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:04,200
Speaker 1: deem you know, safe environment. Do we know how many

566
00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:07,640
Speaker 1: homes this one guy owns. Well, let's get let's get it.

567
00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:11,040
Speaker 1: Let's get into that because the next thing I wanted

568
00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:13,880
Speaker 1: to bring up, and I've actually brought up an aspect

569
00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:16,720
Speaker 1: of this I think on the podcast before with a FEES,

570
00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:19,760
Speaker 1: is that it's interesting that there's just this assumption we

571
00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:22,200
Speaker 1: all make that a FEES is some sort of military

572
00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:25,880
Speaker 1: institution and it's not. It is privately owned it's a

573
00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:31,320
Speaker 1: it's a private corporation for profit. Okay. Um, there's an

574
00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:33,400
Speaker 1: assumption that I would have made up until I read

575
00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:36,160
Speaker 1: this Reuter's article that I'm Post housing is owned by

576
00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:40,080
Speaker 1: the US military, and that is definitely not the In

577
00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:42,720
Speaker 1: most cases, that's not the case. I mean maybe in

578
00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:48,560
Speaker 1: some um so, I definitely was hoping that you two

579
00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:53,360
Speaker 1: could elaborate on this gentleman John Pascern and his involvement

580
00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:57,400
Speaker 1: with on post Housing. You know, I just want to

581
00:32:57,400 --> 00:33:00,240
Speaker 1: preface that with I don't have a problem with people

582
00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:02,560
Speaker 1: being rich. You know what, if you want to live

583
00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:05,760
Speaker 1: in an Irish mansion, that's cool, you do you I

584
00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:09,480
Speaker 1: mean capitalism one oh one, right. But the problem that

585
00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:12,120
Speaker 1: I have with this, and it's not just discern but

586
00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:15,440
Speaker 1: it's with any anyone who is capitalizing off the backs

587
00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:18,760
Speaker 1: of military families and really took their detriment to help

588
00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:22,440
Speaker 1: them thinking economic fabilities. Um, I'm not cool with that.

589
00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:26,040
Speaker 1: If you're going to live in a mansion with a

590
00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:31,160
Speaker 1: thirty thousand dollar taxidermy alligator snakes and sort of thing,

591
00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:34,840
Speaker 1: and then I'm standing, you know, I'm going to m

592
00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:38,920
Speaker 1: meet and I'm looking at lead peeling off, you know,

593
00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:43,800
Speaker 1: or um, mold coming from a ceiling or ceilings caving in.

594
00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:47,000
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, but that's not okay. That is that is

595
00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:52,720
Speaker 1: not what capitalism is about. So you know the problem

596
00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:56,400
Speaker 1: that I have with them is that what we've noticed

597
00:33:56,440 --> 00:34:02,280
Speaker 1: that I'm not totally sure that I guess in my opinion,

598
00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:05,200
Speaker 1: I don't really think they care. He even said it

599
00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:09,840
Speaker 1: was recession group and some of his um interviews. You know,

600
00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:13,320
Speaker 1: this is a recession frous industry. It's a guaranteed contract,

601
00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:17,920
Speaker 1: is a guaranteed revenue stream, and we're really held hostage.

602
00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:20,919
Speaker 1: And you might say, hey, you know what, just move out,

603
00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:23,759
Speaker 1: Just move out, what's your problem? Just move out? Or

604
00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:26,920
Speaker 1: if you're an E three and you have two small children,

605
00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:31,320
Speaker 1: you know, finding the first and last month's deposit or

606
00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:35,080
Speaker 1: even first in deposit to move out can be really expensive.

607
00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:37,960
Speaker 1: And once you're once all your items have been exposed

608
00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:42,000
Speaker 1: to mold, you're talking thousands of dollars to replace all

609
00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:44,120
Speaker 1: of your stuff because you can't take it with you.

610
00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:50,319
Speaker 1: Not corus charge you to break your lease. Right there,

611
00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:53,880
Speaker 1: are you know, pervasive health concerns in your home and

612
00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:57,160
Speaker 1: you're penalized for doing that, or you have these exorbitant

613
00:34:57,239 --> 00:34:59,799
Speaker 1: move out charges, so they just kind of pile it

614
00:34:59,800 --> 00:35:02,840
Speaker 1: off pilot on, pilot on, and it's really not feasible

615
00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:05,160
Speaker 1: for a lot of these families here leaving on bases

616
00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:08,399
Speaker 1: an economic need, it's not a privilege, it's not a right.

617
00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:11,720
Speaker 1: It is an economic need to make sure our sports

618
00:35:11,719 --> 00:35:14,800
Speaker 1: that are ready to fight. Right. And as you mentioned,

619
00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:17,440
Speaker 1: I mean a young soldier a lot of times doesn't

620
00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:19,600
Speaker 1: have a lot of money in the bank. Um doesn't

621
00:35:19,600 --> 00:35:21,680
Speaker 1: have a lot of credit. Maybe he has or she

622
00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:25,640
Speaker 1: has bad credit. Uh. And you know the military has

623
00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:29,799
Speaker 1: offered housing to our troops. Uh So I mean, yeah,

624
00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:34,120
Speaker 1: I just wanted to elaborate on that a little bit. Sure, right,

625
00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:37,520
Speaker 1: And so I'm looking at the numbers here for Mr

626
00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:42,320
Speaker 1: Percern and Corpius is acquired control of twenties six thousand

627
00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:48,239
Speaker 1: houses and apartments across thirteen military bases. And this contract

628
00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:53,040
Speaker 1: that he was given is for fifty years five zero, yes, fifty.

629
00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:55,400
Speaker 1: So do you do you think some of these families

630
00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:57,640
Speaker 1: are unaware of what you guys are aware of the

631
00:35:57,680 --> 00:35:59,799
Speaker 1: black mold in their homes and it's you know, two

632
00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:04,200
Speaker 1: way it now, Yeah, I think that sometimes, Well, there's

633
00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:06,200
Speaker 1: there's a mix of things. First of all, they may

634
00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:08,640
Speaker 1: not realize that there's an issue, or you know, maybe

635
00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:11,880
Speaker 1: they don't realize that black mold is as scary as

636
00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:15,759
Speaker 1: it really is, or maybe the bis infestations there. You know,

637
00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:19,640
Speaker 1: they're expecting these private contractors to make sure that, you know,

638
00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:21,920
Speaker 1: they're habitable, and so when the private contractor comes in

639
00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:24,920
Speaker 1: and says, oh, we close that up, you're okay. Um,

640
00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:28,799
Speaker 1: they don't realize that there really is a problem. And

641
00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:30,960
Speaker 1: only that even if they do, where do they go?

642
00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:34,040
Speaker 1: They've gone to Jack. Jack said, hey, we're in a

643
00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:36,480
Speaker 1: conflict of interest position. We can't help you. Go to

644
00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:40,759
Speaker 1: the command. Sometimes the commands are retaliating, hopefully not some

645
00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:43,880
Speaker 1: of them are. Um, how do they retaliate against the

646
00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:50,200
Speaker 1: soldier who makes a complaint. So sometimes the PPVs will

647
00:36:50,239 --> 00:36:53,239
Speaker 1: call the commands and tell the commands one story that

648
00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:57,759
Speaker 1: isn't necessarily happening, and the soldier marine or sayler will

649
00:36:57,760 --> 00:37:01,840
Speaker 1: get in trouble. And I have actually fit rep documentation

650
00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:06,240
Speaker 1: of um a sailor and some marines getting in trouble

651
00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:09,600
Speaker 1: with their commands because the PPV called their command and

652
00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:15,080
Speaker 1: that goes on their fit rep. Yes, that is outrageous, YEP.

653
00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:19,239
Speaker 1: Just so for listeners who understand, a fit REP is

654
00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:22,239
Speaker 1: like what we would call in the navy. Uh, that's

655
00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:23,680
Speaker 1: what in the army we would call like an n

656
00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:26,920
Speaker 1: c o e R. It's an evaluation report, like your

657
00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:29,840
Speaker 1: yearly evaluation report, and that's been that's what your promotions

658
00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:32,120
Speaker 1: are based on. Essentially, it's saying did you do a

659
00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:34,200
Speaker 1: good job or do you do a bad job? And

660
00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:37,960
Speaker 1: so what's happening here is that soldiers or sailors or

661
00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:40,960
Speaker 1: marines in this case are making a complaint about what

662
00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:45,160
Speaker 1: a corporation is doing on post and that complaint is

663
00:37:45,200 --> 00:37:49,000
Speaker 1: then being put on their official military paperwork that impacts

664
00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:52,840
Speaker 1: their career. That's right, That's exactly right. And not to

665
00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:57,359
Speaker 1: mention the culture of fear of retaliation. We we did

666
00:37:57,440 --> 00:37:59,680
Speaker 1: um some of these forms over the weekend over here

667
00:37:59,680 --> 00:38:02,520
Speaker 1: in Norder, Virginia where I live, and we had families

668
00:38:02,560 --> 00:38:05,319
Speaker 1: that came in that worked with high level officials and

669
00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:07,520
Speaker 1: they were like, well, we don't want our husband to tell,

670
00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:09,959
Speaker 1: you know, the high level officials what's going on, because

671
00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:13,120
Speaker 1: we're afraid of retaliation or we're going to hurt your career.

672
00:38:14,680 --> 00:38:18,600
Speaker 1: Can you scary? Could? Uh? Lee? Why don't I toss

673
00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:20,600
Speaker 1: this over to you. Could you talk a little bit

674
00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:24,040
Speaker 1: more about John Pascern and who this guy is because

675
00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:27,000
Speaker 1: I read in the Reuters article in order to acquire

676
00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:31,520
Speaker 1: this fifty year contract, he flew to Fort Bragg with

677
00:38:31,600 --> 00:38:36,640
Speaker 1: his congressman on his private jet. Yes. Yeah, so that

678
00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:39,360
Speaker 1: means that to me was when I felt like, well,

679
00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:42,440
Speaker 1: there's just so many levels to this that, you know,

680
00:38:43,239 --> 00:38:47,440
Speaker 1: how am I as one army spouse, you know, supposed

681
00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:51,240
Speaker 1: to be able to handle this and take this on. Um,

682
00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:54,880
Speaker 1: it's just really really disheartening to see the amount of

683
00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:59,160
Speaker 1: money that this fan has put up to for donations

684
00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:01,759
Speaker 1: and this typically to people who are on the Arms

685
00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:07,719
Speaker 1: Services Committee to get this this contract essentially. Um, it's

686
00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:12,920
Speaker 1: just it's really disheartening to see that our homes on

687
00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:17,880
Speaker 1: these bases are kind of pay for play almost. Yeah,

688
00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:20,879
Speaker 1: I mean it's hard not to look at and see

689
00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:24,880
Speaker 1: this as like some sort of like sharecropper arrangement where

690
00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:29,160
Speaker 1: you know the I mean, as you say, it's it's

691
00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:32,520
Speaker 1: a recession proof contract, but I mean it's also like

692
00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:35,839
Speaker 1: you're strong arming these soldiers. They have nowhere else to go,

693
00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:38,640
Speaker 1: they have to pay you. So there is is it

694
00:39:38,680 --> 00:39:41,880
Speaker 1: there b a h that is going into what's the

695
00:39:41,920 --> 00:39:46,000
Speaker 1: corvious group. Right. So this is another aspect that I

696
00:39:46,040 --> 00:39:48,759
Speaker 1: think really needs to be changed, is that when you

697
00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:54,280
Speaker 1: live on post your entire BH is deducted from your paycheck.

698
00:39:54,719 --> 00:39:59,640
Speaker 1: You don't even see it. Yeah. So essentially, when I

699
00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:03,160
Speaker 1: was through all these issues for a polk, I couldn't

700
00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:05,200
Speaker 1: you know, say well, I'm you know, not going to

701
00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:08,680
Speaker 1: pay a quarter of my rent until this issue is fixed,

702
00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:13,000
Speaker 1: because it's literally it's literally taken right out of my

703
00:40:13,120 --> 00:40:17,239
Speaker 1: husband's paycheck. He doesn't even see it. It goes from

704
00:40:17,239 --> 00:40:22,000
Speaker 1: the U. S. Treasury Department into the corveous group, correct, correct?

705
00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:24,840
Speaker 1: So I think in the writers are Full, they mentioned

706
00:40:24,840 --> 00:40:28,960
Speaker 1: how to certain didn't have to front any money because

707
00:40:30,160 --> 00:40:33,479
Speaker 1: they knew that he was going to be getting all

708
00:40:33,520 --> 00:40:39,319
Speaker 1: of these you know, housing stipends from the soldiers. Mm hmm. Yeah,

709
00:40:39,320 --> 00:40:41,920
Speaker 1: So Corbius is shielded from a risk um. In another way,

710
00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:44,680
Speaker 1: it's he's not obligated to repay nearly one point nine

711
00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:48,160
Speaker 1: billion in bank loans. It's military housing projects have received

712
00:40:48,520 --> 00:40:51,760
Speaker 1: the loans. Like salaries of most CORBEUS workers on bases

713
00:40:51,800 --> 00:40:55,480
Speaker 1: are paid off from the housing rental stipend, soldiers and

714
00:40:55,480 --> 00:40:59,600
Speaker 1: airmen received from the federal government, so it's all margin

715
00:40:59,680 --> 00:41:06,239
Speaker 1: for him. Correct, yep. So when you see, you know,

716
00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:08,480
Speaker 1: the side by side pictures, so I felt were very

717
00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:12,320
Speaker 1: powerful in this article. It's hard like I had definitely

718
00:41:12,520 --> 00:41:15,400
Speaker 1: a visceral or spots in my body thinking of my

719
00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:19,440
Speaker 1: child who can barely get through a karate class and

720
00:41:19,680 --> 00:41:23,879
Speaker 1: without using it his inhaler and this man flying out

721
00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:28,239
Speaker 1: some you know insta famous. I don't think what his

722
00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:31,920
Speaker 1: interior designer who designs for the Kardashians and his hashtag

723
00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:35,400
Speaker 1: on you know, John Piscern's one of his many tables

724
00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:39,120
Speaker 1: is hashtag my table is bigger than you more in

725
00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:47,600
Speaker 1: Lawrence Buillyard, Yeah, I mean it's it's infuriating, and it's

726
00:41:47,680 --> 00:41:52,760
Speaker 1: really kind of a scene. Yeah, it looks like something

727
00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:59,080
Speaker 1: from the Roman Empire. Yeah, exactly, you know, and really

728
00:41:59,080 --> 00:42:02,560
Speaker 1: it's kind of garbage too, because we're having a hard

729
00:42:02,600 --> 00:42:05,759
Speaker 1: time figuring out in the contracts where the recipe for

730
00:42:05,840 --> 00:42:08,720
Speaker 1: health and safety was supposed to happen From the army side,

731
00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:11,160
Speaker 1: Um well really not just for me. From the d

732
00:42:11,360 --> 00:42:13,960
Speaker 1: D side, you know, who was it was responsible for

733
00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:17,040
Speaker 1: the oversighting enforcement, closing the gaps for health and safety

734
00:42:17,080 --> 00:42:21,920
Speaker 1: issues and it doesn't look like anybody put anything in

735
00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:26,640
Speaker 1: there for it. Just check the balances for financial viability

736
00:42:26,680 --> 00:42:30,000
Speaker 1: of the project. You're saying that the maintenance issues weren't

737
00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:33,920
Speaker 1: adequately addressed in the contract. I'm not sure there were

738
00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:37,120
Speaker 1: health and safety balanced checks and balances in the contract.

739
00:42:38,719 --> 00:42:41,640
Speaker 1: And unfortunately a lot of the contracts are redacted, so

740
00:42:41,920 --> 00:42:47,520
Speaker 1: really heavily redacted. Under what's the justification for redacting a

741
00:42:47,520 --> 00:42:52,239
Speaker 1: housing contract? Proprietary? It's proprietary and it um it can

742
00:42:52,280 --> 00:42:57,200
Speaker 1: be a conflict within the market. If another UM, you know,

743
00:42:57,239 --> 00:42:59,719
Speaker 1: like Lincoln Military Housing, got ahold of it, they could

744
00:42:59,760 --> 00:43:02,960
Speaker 1: be a competitor. This is this is like one of

745
00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:07,319
Speaker 1: those confluences between industry and government. Like you can't buy

746
00:43:07,360 --> 00:43:09,560
Speaker 1: that kind of loyalty. It has to come from love,

747
00:43:11,080 --> 00:43:18,279
Speaker 1: right exactly. It's really incredible. It's incredible, and you're let lye.

748
00:43:18,360 --> 00:43:20,200
Speaker 1: You were even saying that your husband was on an

749
00:43:20,200 --> 00:43:23,279
Speaker 1: inhaler at one points, and this is a this is

750
00:43:23,280 --> 00:43:28,480
Speaker 1: a grown man in good physical shape. Yes, yes, so,

751
00:43:28,600 --> 00:43:32,040
Speaker 1: I mean it was just it was pitiful. My neighbors

752
00:43:32,040 --> 00:43:34,919
Speaker 1: were like, oh, like there he is the black lung

753
00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:37,319
Speaker 1: over there. You know, if you'd go up to UM,

754
00:43:37,400 --> 00:43:40,000
Speaker 1: what is it called med med check in the morning. Right,

755
00:43:40,239 --> 00:43:44,360
Speaker 1: he was on like heavy, heavy, serious like costs suppressant.

756
00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:46,120
Speaker 1: I mean, he couldn't even make it through a briefing

757
00:43:46,160 --> 00:43:49,640
Speaker 1: without you know, just you know, having these awful colbum.

758
00:43:49,680 --> 00:43:51,919
Speaker 1: Imagine what then does to a five year old kid.

759
00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:56,200
Speaker 1: But yeah, I know, I know. So we were actually

760
00:43:56,200 --> 00:43:59,880
Speaker 1: when we were in Polk, my husband, Um, they do

761
00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:03,919
Speaker 1: lot of rotations out in town throughout the Louisiana So

762
00:44:04,440 --> 00:44:06,560
Speaker 1: I when he was there, I would pack up the

763
00:44:06,640 --> 00:44:08,040
Speaker 1: kids and we would go there and stay in that

764
00:44:08,120 --> 00:44:12,040
Speaker 1: hotel because everyone was a lot healthier when we were

765
00:44:12,080 --> 00:44:15,759
Speaker 1: away from that house. It was safer in the hotel. Yeah,

766
00:44:16,200 --> 00:44:18,200
Speaker 1: what do you make I mean kind of getting into

767
00:44:18,200 --> 00:44:20,279
Speaker 1: a little bit of where things are now. I mean, well,

768
00:44:20,320 --> 00:44:23,360
Speaker 1: first off, what do you make of uh Pacerns lawyer

769
00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:26,080
Speaker 1: responding to the Reuter's article that this is all just

770
00:44:26,200 --> 00:44:29,200
Speaker 1: like drama. You know, you guys are just busy body,

771
00:44:29,320 --> 00:44:33,560
Speaker 1: army wives, you know that kind of thing. Well, I'm

772
00:44:33,600 --> 00:44:35,640
Speaker 1: not busy body. I have a full time job and

773
00:44:35,920 --> 00:44:39,560
Speaker 1: has nothing to do with the military. First of all, um,

774
00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:42,680
Speaker 1: that pays, you know, for my bill, because the Memary

775
00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:47,080
Speaker 1: Corps certainly doesn't. Um. But the other side is that

776
00:44:49,239 --> 00:44:52,600
Speaker 1: they have said things like we're bloggers and and things

777
00:44:52,600 --> 00:44:55,000
Speaker 1: like that as much. You know, I am not a blogger, okay,

778
00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:57,319
Speaker 1: and there's nothing wrong with a blogger. It's like amazing

779
00:44:57,440 --> 00:44:59,880
Speaker 1: military stuff. Bloggers that are gangs. I mean, they're awesome.

780
00:45:00,560 --> 00:45:03,080
Speaker 1: But at the same time, you know, I don't I

781
00:45:03,160 --> 00:45:05,840
Speaker 1: spend my time lobbying on the hill outside of my

782
00:45:05,960 --> 00:45:09,040
Speaker 1: job because I really believe in this issue, and I

783
00:45:09,120 --> 00:45:12,640
Speaker 1: really believe and have sees that it's a pervasive problem.

784
00:45:12,680 --> 00:45:16,360
Speaker 1: I have flown all over this country looking at houses

785
00:45:16,520 --> 00:45:19,960
Speaker 1: on my own dollar because I know for a fact

786
00:45:20,040 --> 00:45:23,520
Speaker 1: if there is a problem. So you know what his

787
00:45:23,600 --> 00:45:27,200
Speaker 1: lawyer can do with that little comment, You know what

788
00:45:27,239 --> 00:45:31,600
Speaker 1: he can do with it. Well, you know he said

789
00:45:31,640 --> 00:45:36,920
Speaker 1: that Reuters is using more tabloid style and you know,

790
00:45:37,040 --> 00:45:49,200
Speaker 1: shocking a Reuters really, I think least bias the opportunity, Yeah,

791
00:45:49,239 --> 00:45:51,600
Speaker 1: we welcome the opportunity to focus on the real issues,

792
00:45:51,640 --> 00:45:55,080
Speaker 1: like how our nation can provide better support for those

793
00:45:55,120 --> 00:45:58,160
Speaker 1: who certain So great, let's do it. Let's have this

794
00:45:58,200 --> 00:46:01,600
Speaker 1: conversation with them and you since you two are kind

795
00:46:01,600 --> 00:46:03,279
Speaker 1: of in the belly of the beast. As far as

796
00:46:03,360 --> 00:46:06,680
Speaker 1: dealing with this issue. I mean, have you seen any improvement?

797
00:46:06,719 --> 00:46:08,400
Speaker 1: I mean, I think in the article, I mean, they

798
00:46:08,680 --> 00:46:11,040
Speaker 1: pledged themselves to saying, you know, we're going to do better.

799
00:46:11,120 --> 00:46:14,480
Speaker 1: We're going to do better. Yeah. Right, That's what like

800
00:46:14,560 --> 00:46:16,800
Speaker 1: the Military Housing said too when they got sued in

801
00:46:16,880 --> 00:46:19,479
Speaker 1: Norfolk and NUS but A thousand and eleven or whatever

802
00:46:19,480 --> 00:46:21,920
Speaker 1: it was, because the more problems there, they said the

803
00:46:21,960 --> 00:46:25,359
Speaker 1: same thing. And it's the same pervasive issue. Same thing

804
00:46:25,400 --> 00:46:29,160
Speaker 1: with Clark, same thing with Balfour, Baity, all of them.

805
00:46:29,200 --> 00:46:32,000
Speaker 1: I'm calling them all out because I've seen those houses,

806
00:46:32,120 --> 00:46:35,200
Speaker 1: and I've talked to those families and I've heard their children,

807
00:46:35,480 --> 00:46:39,080
Speaker 1: and it is despicable what they are doing to military families.

808
00:46:39,160 --> 00:46:42,120
Speaker 1: It is garbage. And this dude has a fifty year,

809
00:46:42,960 --> 00:46:48,080
Speaker 1: zero fifty year contract, so I mean, what's I mean?

810
00:46:48,440 --> 00:46:50,680
Speaker 1: He knows that contract is not going to get canceled

811
00:46:50,680 --> 00:46:55,399
Speaker 1: without some significant, significant legal action taking place. So I mean,

812
00:46:55,719 --> 00:46:57,880
Speaker 1: he doesn't have any incentive to really give a ship.

813
00:46:58,920 --> 00:47:01,200
Speaker 1: He doesn't, and I don't he does. I mean, I've

814
00:47:01,239 --> 00:47:04,000
Speaker 1: never heard of him going to visit these faces. Have

815
00:47:04,080 --> 00:47:12,040
Speaker 1: you crystal for his right now? That didn't didn't They

816
00:47:12,120 --> 00:47:15,160
Speaker 1: put out a response where they were talking about the

817
00:47:15,200 --> 00:47:18,640
Speaker 1: carpet at for a pole coup that had biohazard on it.

818
00:47:18,680 --> 00:47:21,120
Speaker 1: They would just pulled out, sanitize it, clean it, stretch

819
00:47:21,200 --> 00:47:24,760
Speaker 1: and put it back in. You guys see that article

820
00:47:24,920 --> 00:47:29,240
Speaker 1: that Uh huh, I don't think that. Yeah, there's another

821
00:47:29,360 --> 00:47:31,880
Speaker 1: article response. Um, I think they put through It was

822
00:47:32,000 --> 00:47:36,640
Speaker 1: local local news there. Yeah, they said if there's a

823
00:47:36,640 --> 00:47:40,160
Speaker 1: biohazard on the carpet, and you know, biohazard could be

824
00:47:40,160 --> 00:47:43,680
Speaker 1: anything biological. But what they do is they pulled out,

825
00:47:44,800 --> 00:47:48,439
Speaker 1: they sanitize it, quote unquote, and then they just put

826
00:47:48,480 --> 00:47:53,480
Speaker 1: it back in it. Would you want your child, your

827
00:47:53,560 --> 00:47:55,680
Speaker 1: new baby crawling on that. That's where we're going to

828
00:47:55,760 --> 00:47:58,880
Speaker 1: walk on biohazard carpet? If they likely charged the last

829
00:47:58,880 --> 00:48:04,759
Speaker 1: person to replaced and probably didn't. Jack, did you ever

830
00:48:04,840 --> 00:48:09,640
Speaker 1: live on base? Yes? I did at Fort Benning, Okay, okay,

831
00:48:09,719 --> 00:48:13,800
Speaker 1: I was that it was um it was geez heading

832
00:48:13,840 --> 00:48:16,319
Speaker 1: out to I'm trying to think of the gate. It's

833
00:48:16,320 --> 00:48:18,840
Speaker 1: one of the back gates. But I was kind of

834
00:48:18,880 --> 00:48:21,400
Speaker 1: the last person living there. Actually it was kind of

835
00:48:21,400 --> 00:48:24,600
Speaker 1: a ghost town. Um. I was a single soldier and

836
00:48:24,680 --> 00:48:27,759
Speaker 1: had a roommate and it was they were condemning and

837
00:48:27,840 --> 00:48:30,799
Speaker 1: knocking down all those houses and probably they threw up

838
00:48:30,840 --> 00:48:35,000
Speaker 1: corveous holmes after I left. Um, but yeah, it was

839
00:48:35,080 --> 00:48:39,439
Speaker 1: it was infested with cockroaches the size of my hand. Um.

840
00:48:39,520 --> 00:48:43,440
Speaker 1: But you know I was twenty two, you know, single guys,

841
00:48:43,760 --> 00:48:46,799
Speaker 1: so you know you deal with these things. Um. Yeah,

842
00:48:46,840 --> 00:48:49,080
Speaker 1: but that should never be the norm. No, no, no,

843
00:48:49,200 --> 00:48:51,600
Speaker 1: it shouldn't. If I had kids, I'd be freaking out

844
00:48:51,640 --> 00:48:57,960
Speaker 1: of privatizing the barracks. Yes, there is a pilot where

845
00:48:58,000 --> 00:49:01,360
Speaker 1: they have started privatizing barricks. So the barracks will be

846
00:49:01,400 --> 00:49:04,040
Speaker 1: falling under our purview as well once they start that

847
00:49:04,080 --> 00:49:08,759
Speaker 1: privatization process and actually already fallen my purview because you know,

848
00:49:09,120 --> 00:49:11,000
Speaker 1: we don't want to forget about our single men and

849
00:49:11,000 --> 00:49:14,080
Speaker 1: women who are living in barracks that are garbage to

850
00:49:14,200 --> 00:49:16,280
Speaker 1: It just comes at a different possitive money for now.

851
00:49:16,600 --> 00:49:20,680
Speaker 1: But there is a pilot to privatize the barracks. That

852
00:49:20,960 --> 00:49:24,239
Speaker 1: is wild. I mean I'm not like some kind of

853
00:49:24,400 --> 00:49:27,160
Speaker 1: you know, Leninist or something here, but I mean I

854
00:49:27,400 --> 00:49:29,640
Speaker 1: think that the military should be the military. I don't

855
00:49:29,640 --> 00:49:32,480
Speaker 1: think it should be run by corporations. I think just

856
00:49:32,840 --> 00:49:35,480
Speaker 1: everybody would agree with you on that, I hope. So

857
00:49:35,760 --> 00:49:38,800
Speaker 1: the military has never been, you know, like a privatized entity.

858
00:49:39,040 --> 00:49:43,960
Speaker 1: So now, and it's when they're you're fighting a seventeen

859
00:49:44,000 --> 00:49:46,120
Speaker 1: year long war, Okay, I mean they don't have time

860
00:49:46,200 --> 00:49:49,480
Speaker 1: to manage housing. So I get it. I get what

861
00:49:49,560 --> 00:49:52,440
Speaker 1: a commander. But but they do have the government housing

862
00:49:52,480 --> 00:49:56,160
Speaker 1: offices on base. The Army calls it our CI, the

863
00:49:56,160 --> 00:49:59,359
Speaker 1: Marine Corps calls it g h O. The Air Force

864
00:49:59,400 --> 00:50:02,239
Speaker 1: causes something different. But their government housing offices, and they're

865
00:50:02,239 --> 00:50:06,000
Speaker 1: paid for by the branch of service. Now, if they

866
00:50:06,040 --> 00:50:10,400
Speaker 1: could fund those, give them more funding, give them more staff,

867
00:50:11,040 --> 00:50:14,000
Speaker 1: address the contract gaps so that we can give these

868
00:50:14,080 --> 00:50:17,759
Speaker 1: folks more power to enforce help and safety and economic um,

869
00:50:18,120 --> 00:50:21,440
Speaker 1: you know, standards and take you know, managing managing the

870
00:50:21,480 --> 00:50:24,520
Speaker 1: stuff out of the command's hands except for you exceptions,

871
00:50:25,040 --> 00:50:27,440
Speaker 1: you know what. That's what they're there for. That is

872
00:50:27,480 --> 00:50:30,760
Speaker 1: their job. On the base, you have a government housing office,

873
00:50:31,719 --> 00:50:34,120
Speaker 1: you know, fund those guys, give them some money, give

874
00:50:34,160 --> 00:50:37,319
Speaker 1: them some power, give them a bit like be let

875
00:50:37,360 --> 00:50:40,879
Speaker 1: them be the advocate for family. But there's like two

876
00:50:41,000 --> 00:50:44,960
Speaker 1: people in those offices, for like, are both of you

877
00:50:45,040 --> 00:50:49,279
Speaker 1: still living in this home? We still in Oh no,

878
00:50:49,360 --> 00:50:52,040
Speaker 1: you're living off posts now, right, Yeah, I am off

879
00:50:52,120 --> 00:50:57,600
Speaker 1: post that the house was two posts a go. But

880
00:50:57,719 --> 00:50:59,879
Speaker 1: my son is still dealing with the issues. In fact,

881
00:51:00,040 --> 00:51:03,360
Speaker 1: we have to go get another uh skin prick tests

882
00:51:03,360 --> 00:51:05,719
Speaker 1: for him in the next few weeks. And I mean

883
00:51:05,760 --> 00:51:07,799
Speaker 1: that for a five year old is traumatic and he

884
00:51:08,160 --> 00:51:10,520
Speaker 1: that's you know, one of my issues is that everywhere

885
00:51:10,560 --> 00:51:13,320
Speaker 1: we go, we kind of start from square one again,

886
00:51:13,920 --> 00:51:16,520
Speaker 1: you know, because this new specialist will want to run

887
00:51:16,560 --> 00:51:20,760
Speaker 1: his own tests, and which I completely understand, but watching

888
00:51:20,760 --> 00:51:23,279
Speaker 1: my five year old sit there through this, it's like,

889
00:51:23,400 --> 00:51:26,400
Speaker 1: really pitiful. I wonder if fish darn would let his

890
00:51:26,480 --> 00:51:30,520
Speaker 1: daughter sleep in a room with mold growing on the ceiling.

891
00:51:30,960 --> 00:51:34,239
Speaker 1: I don't think so. I doubt it. I don't think.

892
00:51:34,239 --> 00:51:37,200
Speaker 1: I found very interesting. My husband and I last night

893
00:51:37,320 --> 00:51:41,600
Speaker 1: and watched his interview that he did with a local

894
00:51:41,880 --> 00:51:45,239
Speaker 1: news station right around the time he acquired this contract,

895
00:51:45,400 --> 00:51:49,200
Speaker 1: and he said, um, he sees this as a vocation.

896
00:51:50,840 --> 00:51:54,160
Speaker 1: I thought that was just very interesting. This is his

897
00:51:54,320 --> 00:51:58,120
Speaker 1: vocation now, so he gets to use this. Oh, I'm

898
00:51:58,160 --> 00:52:01,719
Speaker 1: taking care of these military family, these I'm doing such

899
00:52:01,800 --> 00:52:06,080
Speaker 1: great work. But the reality is that he saw this

900
00:52:06,239 --> 00:52:10,279
Speaker 1: as a lucrative business and he has the fifty year

901
00:52:10,360 --> 00:52:15,960
Speaker 1: contract that is through iron Clad and his families in

902
00:52:16,040 --> 00:52:19,680
Speaker 1: these homes are I hate that to use the word,

903
00:52:19,719 --> 00:52:22,839
Speaker 1: but like some of them are really suffering. Ye, it's

904
00:52:22,880 --> 00:52:27,120
Speaker 1: behaving like a slumboard. Basically, Um, he is a slumblourd slumboard.

905
00:52:27,160 --> 00:52:30,360
Speaker 1: Get rich. What I mean just yesterday someone was posting

906
00:52:30,800 --> 00:52:32,680
Speaker 1: there wasn't a we were in a Corbeaus house and

907
00:52:32,840 --> 00:52:37,080
Speaker 1: there was raw sewage backing up onto their property. What

908
00:52:37,160 --> 00:52:40,160
Speaker 1: are some of the things if you if you two

909
00:52:40,160 --> 00:52:41,920
Speaker 1: were to go point by point, what are some of

910
00:52:41,920 --> 00:52:44,160
Speaker 1: the things you would like to see happen to fix

911
00:52:44,239 --> 00:52:48,319
Speaker 1: the situation with on post housing the first time, like

912
00:52:48,440 --> 00:52:52,720
Speaker 1: to the lifted service members or their spouses. UM stock

913
00:52:52,760 --> 00:52:55,520
Speaker 1: the allotment for housing to put down nescrow and it

914
00:52:55,560 --> 00:52:57,560
Speaker 1: needs to go through a local judge. I don't want

915
00:52:57,640 --> 00:53:01,960
Speaker 1: command to have control over whether they think is justified

916
00:53:02,040 --> 00:53:04,000
Speaker 1: or not. I think there needs to be an independent

917
00:53:04,040 --> 00:53:09,040
Speaker 1: agency UM, whether it's Jack or whoever UM to let

918
00:53:09,120 --> 00:53:12,880
Speaker 1: the family stop their allotments for housing and kill and

919
00:53:12,880 --> 00:53:14,959
Speaker 1: put in an escrow. Just put it over an escrow.

920
00:53:14,960 --> 00:53:17,279
Speaker 1: They won't be able to touch it UM until the

921
00:53:17,320 --> 00:53:19,480
Speaker 1: housing problems are fixed. I think once you stop the

922
00:53:19,520 --> 00:53:22,520
Speaker 1: revenue stream, you start getting their attention. And I think

923
00:53:22,560 --> 00:53:24,600
Speaker 1: it would be a big stop because there's a lot

924
00:53:24,640 --> 00:53:28,560
Speaker 1: of there's seven hundred thousand homes across the military that

925
00:53:28,719 --> 00:53:32,880
Speaker 1: are houses, you know, and I suspect very conservatively that

926
00:53:32,960 --> 00:53:36,200
Speaker 1: at least ten or of them have problems at the

927
00:53:36,320 --> 00:53:41,239
Speaker 1: least a hundred homes UM at ratio. You know, what's

928
00:53:41,239 --> 00:53:45,520
Speaker 1: stop the funding, Let them stop there b a h. Yeah,

929
00:53:45,560 --> 00:53:49,040
Speaker 1: you'll see things change right quick if that happened. Absolutely,

930
00:53:51,080 --> 00:53:54,200
Speaker 1: what do you think? Yeah? I think that, I mean

931
00:53:54,320 --> 00:53:57,399
Speaker 1: that is would be the best case scenario, I think

932
00:53:57,400 --> 00:53:59,799
Speaker 1: in the situation, and there needs to be because there

933
00:53:59,840 --> 00:54:03,200
Speaker 1: needs to be some way to hold um, these companies

934
00:54:03,239 --> 00:54:07,160
Speaker 1: accountable for the living conditions UM. And I think that

935
00:54:07,520 --> 00:54:10,680
Speaker 1: if one of my issues was right after I left,

936
00:54:10,719 --> 00:54:14,000
Speaker 1: another family moved into my house, the problem was never fixed,

937
00:54:15,719 --> 00:54:18,960
Speaker 1: right like expanding SACRA you know at the s c

938
00:54:19,160 --> 00:54:23,840
Speaker 1: R A expanding SACRA to address privatizic housing. And in

939
00:54:23,920 --> 00:54:27,160
Speaker 1: the ethical business the unethical business practices that they have

940
00:54:27,680 --> 00:54:33,200
Speaker 1: what's economic issues sacra UM the Soldiers and Sailor's Release

941
00:54:33,280 --> 00:54:37,360
Speaker 1: Act right, okay, service what is it called? I was

942
00:54:37,400 --> 00:54:44,560
Speaker 1: called sacra Ahn't isn't it about? Isn't it grant debt

943
00:54:44,640 --> 00:54:50,040
Speaker 1: forgiveness to people who join the military. No sacra. There's

944
00:54:50,080 --> 00:54:52,520
Speaker 1: a lot of things that are in sacra. You have

945
00:54:52,800 --> 00:54:56,160
Speaker 1: things about your some of your can it right? Breaking

946
00:54:56,160 --> 00:55:00,600
Speaker 1: a lead? Um, There's there's tons of stuff in sacra UM,

947
00:55:00,640 --> 00:55:02,960
Speaker 1: and I think that if we expanded that on a

948
00:55:03,000 --> 00:55:06,279
Speaker 1: state and federal level where these installations are, then it

949
00:55:06,360 --> 00:55:09,000
Speaker 1: might benefit the families as well and give them more

950
00:55:09,040 --> 00:55:12,200
Speaker 1: options in a state court. What about the maintenance issue?

951
00:55:12,280 --> 00:55:14,680
Speaker 1: Like if if a family in one of these houses

952
00:55:14,760 --> 00:55:17,840
Speaker 1: makes a call and says, he, look, my my kids

953
00:55:17,840 --> 00:55:21,319
Speaker 1: are coughing, my my husband's coughing, you know, we got,

954
00:55:21,360 --> 00:55:24,319
Speaker 1: we got there's something wrong with this house. What's what

955
00:55:24,360 --> 00:55:26,680
Speaker 1: should change from the maintenance side of things? Like what

956
00:55:26,719 --> 00:55:30,960
Speaker 1: should that solution look like? I would say they need

957
00:55:31,000 --> 00:55:36,399
Speaker 1: to have a certified mold inspectors licensed within the state

958
00:55:37,800 --> 00:55:41,680
Speaker 1: M So where could people go to help with this issue?

959
00:55:41,800 --> 00:55:47,560
Speaker 1: Is there any any action that people can take? So

960
00:55:47,719 --> 00:55:49,799
Speaker 1: what I've pushed family to do is UM we have

961
00:55:49,920 --> 00:55:55,440
Speaker 1: the Facebook page is called UM Safe Military Housing Initiative. UM.

962
00:55:55,480 --> 00:55:59,040
Speaker 1: They also need to you know, if you're having housing

963
00:55:59,080 --> 00:56:01,160
Speaker 1: issues now, you really need to make sure that you

964
00:56:01,360 --> 00:56:07,000
Speaker 1: document everything very very thoroughly, every phone call, pictures, time

965
00:56:07,360 --> 00:56:10,839
Speaker 1: you spoke the coruct Yes, and it's a pain. Let

966
00:56:10,840 --> 00:56:12,560
Speaker 1: me tell you it's a pain, and I get it.

967
00:56:12,960 --> 00:56:15,920
Speaker 1: But at the same time, if you ever decide to

968
00:56:15,920 --> 00:56:18,680
Speaker 1: sue these people, you'll have the documentation if you have

969
00:56:18,719 --> 00:56:22,280
Speaker 1: been true and harm by military by these military housing

970
00:56:22,360 --> 00:56:25,719
Speaker 1: quote unquote partners I like to call contractors. I don't

971
00:56:25,719 --> 00:56:28,839
Speaker 1: believe their partners, um, But they need to make sure

972
00:56:28,880 --> 00:56:30,680
Speaker 1: the document everything. They need to make sure they go

973
00:56:30,760 --> 00:56:33,560
Speaker 1: to the proper channels, going through your government housing offices,

974
00:56:34,080 --> 00:56:37,359
Speaker 1: going through your command elements. Should at least let them

975
00:56:37,360 --> 00:56:40,280
Speaker 1: know what's going on. Don't give any of these people

976
00:56:40,440 --> 00:56:44,200
Speaker 1: and out, don't give them a way to not avoid culpability.

977
00:56:44,440 --> 00:56:51,239
Speaker 1: Has anyone sued corvous yet, um, Not yet to my

978
00:56:51,320 --> 00:56:54,319
Speaker 1: knowledge now and not to my knowledge. See a lot

979
00:56:54,360 --> 00:56:57,520
Speaker 1: of the times these things are not always publicized because

980
00:56:57,520 --> 00:56:59,640
Speaker 1: they don't get a jury trial. They say they're settled

981
00:56:59,640 --> 00:57:04,239
Speaker 1: outside out of court. But I was to go back

982
00:57:04,280 --> 00:57:06,880
Speaker 1: to my original question of what people could do. I

983
00:57:07,000 --> 00:57:09,040
Speaker 1: just mean for the average listener. I mean, because we

984
00:57:09,080 --> 00:57:12,720
Speaker 1: have broad listener base of people who are either former

985
00:57:12,760 --> 00:57:17,080
Speaker 1: military or civilians like myself who very pro military cred

986
00:57:17,240 --> 00:57:19,120
Speaker 1: and would would want to help out. I mean, is

987
00:57:19,120 --> 00:57:22,240
Speaker 1: there anything that they could do. It's you know, right

988
00:57:22,320 --> 00:57:26,800
Speaker 1: to your congressman. Mm hmm, Well can you join us,

989
00:57:27,400 --> 00:57:30,600
Speaker 1: join our page, join us, help us, you know on

990
00:57:30,640 --> 00:57:33,600
Speaker 1: the hill. Make sure that you're writing your congressman. If

991
00:57:33,600 --> 00:57:35,760
Speaker 1: you're local to an area and you still have based

992
00:57:35,840 --> 00:57:38,920
Speaker 1: access and um, if you can help a military family,

993
00:57:39,040 --> 00:57:41,520
Speaker 1: like by going in and if you're say you're a

994
00:57:41,560 --> 00:57:44,680
Speaker 1: contractoring and you happen to know that there's an issue. Um,

995
00:57:44,720 --> 00:57:46,880
Speaker 1: as a family called you because they have mold or

996
00:57:47,160 --> 00:57:50,240
Speaker 1: collapse ceiling, you know, don't repair it, but just go

997
00:57:50,320 --> 00:57:52,280
Speaker 1: in and be a witness. I mean because a lot

998
00:57:52,320 --> 00:57:55,560
Speaker 1: of these families don't have these outside resources like mold

999
00:57:55,600 --> 00:57:58,720
Speaker 1: inspectors and contractors who know how to build things. They're

1000
00:57:58,720 --> 00:58:01,560
Speaker 1: just relying on with the man and what the PPV

1001
00:58:01,760 --> 00:58:06,200
Speaker 1: is telling them. Um, you know, join us in in

1002
00:58:06,520 --> 00:58:09,880
Speaker 1: advocating for families. I mean, the more support that we have,

1003
00:58:10,480 --> 00:58:13,360
Speaker 1: the better honest we are, we all will be. And

1004
00:58:13,520 --> 00:58:17,120
Speaker 1: I mean really honestly, we're stronger together. We can't let

1005
00:58:17,120 --> 00:58:19,840
Speaker 1: these guys mess with our family, and our military is

1006
00:58:19,840 --> 00:58:25,560
Speaker 1: our family. John Pascern also is based out of Rhode Island. Um,

1007
00:58:26,160 --> 00:58:29,240
Speaker 1: and his what was his congressman's name that he flew

1008
00:58:29,280 --> 00:58:32,480
Speaker 1: down to a break? Oh, Jack Read, Jaack Senator Jack Red.

1009
00:58:33,320 --> 00:58:35,600
Speaker 1: Senator Jack Read. So he flew down on his private

1010
00:58:35,680 --> 00:58:38,920
Speaker 1: jet with his senator to get this contract. So if

1011
00:58:38,920 --> 00:58:41,480
Speaker 1: you want to write letters, you know, maybe shoot some,

1012
00:58:41,680 --> 00:58:45,000
Speaker 1: especially if you're in Rhode Island. Yeah, and he's rank

1013
00:58:46,040 --> 00:58:49,640
Speaker 1: member US asked as well the Senate on Services Committee,

1014
00:58:50,200 --> 00:58:54,480
Speaker 1: Jack Read its committee after that story came out. Oh,

1015
00:58:54,520 --> 00:58:58,439
Speaker 1: what do you say? It was an interesting conversation. Um.

1016
00:58:58,560 --> 00:59:03,280
Speaker 1: He kept saying essentially that, um, you know, he basically

1017
00:59:03,320 --> 00:59:07,040
Speaker 1: wanted to hold them accountable. That the that the flying

1018
00:59:07,160 --> 00:59:09,760
Speaker 1: of concerned down to sort brag was before he was

1019
00:59:09,800 --> 00:59:12,720
Speaker 1: a senator. He is prior services, and he cares about

1020
00:59:12,720 --> 00:59:17,200
Speaker 1: the military families. UM, just really essentially that. And I

1021
00:59:17,280 --> 00:59:19,080
Speaker 1: just kind of took him to tack on what he

1022
00:59:19,160 --> 00:59:20,560
Speaker 1: was going to do and what we were going to

1023
00:59:20,640 --> 00:59:23,800
Speaker 1: do next. Yeah, I mean that's cool, Jack Read. But

1024
00:59:23,920 --> 00:59:26,400
Speaker 1: I do push ups until you're not fucked up anymore,

1025
00:59:26,960 --> 00:59:32,320
Speaker 1: you know, exactly exactly. Yeah. I think a local TV

1026
00:59:32,440 --> 00:59:37,760
Speaker 1: reporter did interview Senator Read and when asked if he

1027
00:59:37,920 --> 00:59:40,640
Speaker 1: helped John for SERN to get that contract at all,

1028
00:59:40,720 --> 00:59:48,200
Speaker 1: he said, not not that I recall. I recall, yeah,

1029
00:59:48,360 --> 00:59:52,560
Speaker 1: that's like Bill Clinton. I did not have fractual relations

1030
00:59:52,600 --> 00:59:57,080
Speaker 1: with that woman exactly. You know, um Corby is I

1031
00:59:57,200 --> 00:59:59,240
Speaker 1: don't think it owing for Bragg as well, and I

1032
00:59:59,320 --> 01:00:02,880
Speaker 1: think own for Rag. But they're housing on four Brags

1033
01:00:02,920 --> 01:00:05,440
Speaker 1: there too that they're Um, I think they're getting an

1034
01:00:05,440 --> 01:00:09,440
Speaker 1: eighty one million dollar contract. I asked jack 's office

1035
01:00:09,440 --> 01:00:12,040
Speaker 1: the bull. They said, we don't have any knowledge of that,

1036
01:00:12,120 --> 01:00:15,160
Speaker 1: and I said, well, that's unreal. So I'm hearing yeah,

1037
01:00:15,560 --> 01:00:18,800
Speaker 1: right in four week I was going to allude to,

1038
01:00:19,480 --> 01:00:21,960
Speaker 1: you know, the problem like Fort Bragg has some major issues,

1039
01:00:22,040 --> 01:00:25,560
Speaker 1: but throughout four years, I think starting in two thousand

1040
01:00:25,640 --> 01:00:30,320
Speaker 1: seven to two thousand eleven, twelve children under the age

1041
01:00:30,320 --> 01:00:34,760
Speaker 1: of two died in military homes and one housing area.

1042
01:00:35,040 --> 01:00:37,560
Speaker 1: And I do believe three in one home. Are you

1043
01:00:37,600 --> 01:00:43,880
Speaker 1: talking Are you talking about like SIDS? But statistics, that's

1044
01:00:44,000 --> 01:00:47,560
Speaker 1: what they're saying, right. If if it's there's that great

1045
01:00:47,720 --> 01:00:52,720
Speaker 1: statistical probability of infants dying in the same home, I mean,

1046
01:00:52,760 --> 01:00:56,280
Speaker 1: the the actors the odds that there's an environmental factor

1047
01:00:56,600 --> 01:01:00,520
Speaker 1: escalaged drastically. Oh absolutely, I got to be how you

1048
01:01:00,600 --> 01:01:03,360
Speaker 1: came out and said that was statistically probable, and I

1049
01:01:03,480 --> 01:01:05,360
Speaker 1: was like, I'm a banker and I can tell you

1050
01:01:05,400 --> 01:01:11,640
Speaker 1: that's not probably probable. That's well outside the statistic probability

1051
01:01:11,760 --> 01:01:14,240
Speaker 1: of three babies dying. And what home in a very

1052
01:01:14,280 --> 01:01:18,640
Speaker 1: short amount of time makes sense. Yeah, it's it's terrible.

1053
01:01:18,720 --> 01:01:22,080
Speaker 1: And to my knowledge, just from what I've heard, is

1054
01:01:22,120 --> 01:01:25,640
Speaker 1: that that home they do not have people living in anymore.

1055
01:01:26,560 --> 01:01:29,120
Speaker 1: I heard they tore down the whole housing area. But

1056
01:01:29,160 --> 01:01:31,000
Speaker 1: we're supposed to get to Bragged. I want to go

1057
01:01:31,040 --> 01:01:33,760
Speaker 1: see for myself. UM. We are going to be doing

1058
01:01:33,800 --> 01:01:36,760
Speaker 1: some more forums, hopefully in Bragg and Benning. I'm going

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01:01:36,800 --> 01:01:40,640
Speaker 1: to California this weekend. There's a Military housing forum UM

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01:01:40,720 --> 01:01:44,720
Speaker 1: at the Oceanside Library this weekend. UM that I will

1061
01:01:44,760 --> 01:01:47,920
Speaker 1: be at. There will be attorneys there outside attorneys to

1062
01:01:48,280 --> 01:01:50,720
Speaker 1: be you know, trying to help in their capacity to

1063
01:01:50,800 --> 01:01:54,880
Speaker 1: answer questions. UM. So you know, we are trying to

1064
01:01:54,920 --> 01:01:59,320
Speaker 1: give families other resources to you know, try to address

1065
01:01:59,440 --> 01:02:03,640
Speaker 1: short term and long term solutions. UM. You know, get

1066
01:02:03,760 --> 01:02:05,960
Speaker 1: on the legal fund and Jack, I think you could

1067
01:02:06,040 --> 01:02:08,560
Speaker 1: attest to this that you know a lot of the

1068
01:02:08,600 --> 01:02:11,280
Speaker 1: commanders have been coming out and saying, well, we have

1069
01:02:11,480 --> 01:02:14,720
Speaker 1: these open office hours, so you know, anyone can come

1070
01:02:14,720 --> 01:02:18,120
Speaker 1: to that, Like, do you do you believe that you

1071
01:02:18,200 --> 01:02:21,720
Speaker 1: know an E three, you know E four would go

1072
01:02:21,760 --> 01:02:26,280
Speaker 1: in to see this base commander. No, I don't play

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01:02:26,320 --> 01:02:29,120
Speaker 1: about house. I don't. And I think that even if

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01:02:29,120 --> 01:02:32,080
Speaker 1: you did, you would be blown off. I think if

1075
01:02:32,080 --> 01:02:33,880
Speaker 1: you were at E seven or an E eight you

1076
01:02:33,920 --> 01:02:36,120
Speaker 1: went in there, they'd tell you to kick rocks. Um

1077
01:02:36,600 --> 01:02:39,560
Speaker 1: and you deal with it. You're an E what's your problem? Yeah,

1078
01:02:39,600 --> 01:02:42,360
Speaker 1: we've seen over and over again when guys try to

1079
01:02:42,360 --> 01:02:45,840
Speaker 1: blow the whistle internally and try to fix things internally

1080
01:02:45,880 --> 01:02:49,120
Speaker 1: and they get retaliated against um. You know, we're seeing

1081
01:02:49,120 --> 01:02:52,480
Speaker 1: it right now with them. They're they're chaptering out those

1082
01:02:52,480 --> 01:02:57,040
Speaker 1: two n C b M who they're being blamed for

1083
01:02:57,080 --> 01:03:01,120
Speaker 1: a letter that was sent over the internal comm email system.

1084
01:03:01,160 --> 01:03:03,520
Speaker 1: They had nothing to do with this letter complaining about

1085
01:03:04,000 --> 01:03:07,200
Speaker 1: special forces training, and they're being kicked out of the

1086
01:03:07,200 --> 01:03:10,040
Speaker 1: military just because they knew the guy and because they

1087
01:03:10,040 --> 01:03:12,840
Speaker 1: were at the town hall meeting that the commander had

1088
01:03:12,840 --> 01:03:15,600
Speaker 1: where these issues were raised. And so I mean it's

1089
01:03:15,640 --> 01:03:17,920
Speaker 1: them for them to say there's no retaliation. I mean

1090
01:03:17,920 --> 01:03:21,960
Speaker 1: that that's it's bullshit and everyone knows it. Um, and

1091
01:03:22,120 --> 01:03:25,720
Speaker 1: you correct me if I'm my brain cells are firing

1092
01:03:25,760 --> 01:03:30,120
Speaker 1: wrong here. But you guys are also working with Jim Moriarty.

1093
01:03:30,480 --> 01:03:34,600
Speaker 1: That's great. We I've spoken with Jim before. You know, um,

1094
01:03:34,640 --> 01:03:36,959
Speaker 1: you know sadly about you know, his son being killed

1095
01:03:36,960 --> 01:03:40,880
Speaker 1: in Jordan's. Um And if people who listen to this

1096
01:03:40,920 --> 01:03:44,240
Speaker 1: podcast probably remember when the gate guard at Jordan's opened

1097
01:03:44,240 --> 01:03:48,000
Speaker 1: fire and he killed several Green Berets and one of

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01:03:48,040 --> 01:03:51,880
Speaker 1: them was Jim's son, um. And and Jim Moriarty fought

1099
01:03:51,960 --> 01:03:54,560
Speaker 1: tooth and nail to make sure the truth came out

1100
01:03:54,760 --> 01:03:58,400
Speaker 1: about what happened there. Um. Really brave guy. And and

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01:03:58,440 --> 01:04:00,440
Speaker 1: so I'm really glad that he's working with with you

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01:04:00,520 --> 01:04:03,760
Speaker 1: guys on this. He's a lawyer, by the way, isn't

1103
01:04:03,760 --> 01:04:08,280
Speaker 1: a Oh he's I mean he's great. I mean connected

1104
01:04:08,320 --> 01:04:11,800
Speaker 1: with him while we were in California and you know,

1105
01:04:12,280 --> 01:04:15,480
Speaker 1: working on something different. And when writers came to me

1106
01:04:15,520 --> 01:04:17,640
Speaker 1: and asked if I would be willing to step with them,

1107
01:04:17,880 --> 01:04:19,840
Speaker 1: I was like, we just check in and see what

1108
01:04:19,920 --> 01:04:23,360
Speaker 1: Jim thinks about this. And he read the articles that

1109
01:04:23,440 --> 01:04:25,560
Speaker 1: they had previously done and he was like, I need

1110
01:04:25,600 --> 01:04:28,720
Speaker 1: to get involved in this. This is not right. I'm

1111
01:04:28,760 --> 01:04:31,280
Speaker 1: going to help in whatever capacity I can. That's great,

1112
01:04:31,360 --> 01:04:34,280
Speaker 1: and he has, he's been amazing and in doing that,

1113
01:04:34,360 --> 01:04:36,720
Speaker 1: We've also got some other attorneys along the way you

1114
01:04:36,840 --> 01:04:39,760
Speaker 1: have a vested interest in this, who are prior service

1115
01:04:39,920 --> 01:04:43,240
Speaker 1: or reserve or a military stouth attorney. We all have

1116
01:04:43,320 --> 01:04:46,680
Speaker 1: a dog in the fight, and we genuinely care about families.

1117
01:04:46,760 --> 01:04:50,080
Speaker 1: And like I said, you know, um, no one's making

1118
01:04:50,160 --> 01:04:52,800
Speaker 1: money off of this. I'm not making any money off

1119
01:04:52,840 --> 01:04:54,760
Speaker 1: of this. I paid for my own Like well, John

1120
01:04:54,960 --> 01:05:01,040
Speaker 1: starts making money off of this, making money off do

1121
01:05:01,120 --> 01:05:04,640
Speaker 1: you think they want lots of money he could buy uh,

1122
01:05:05,120 --> 01:05:06,880
Speaker 1: you know what is an Irish estate with his own

1123
01:05:06,880 --> 01:05:10,400
Speaker 1: private golf course. So he's doing pretty well. By the

1124
01:05:10,400 --> 01:05:14,840
Speaker 1: biggest to you mention, don't get it twistedly, it's too

1125
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Speaker 1: many Okay Later, thank you both so much for coming

1126
01:05:19,640 --> 01:05:22,560
Speaker 1: on the podcast today. Um, is there anything else that

1127
01:05:22,600 --> 01:05:25,000
Speaker 1: we failed to get to? Any questions I failed to

1128
01:05:25,040 --> 01:05:27,840
Speaker 1: ask that that you think should be brought up before

1129
01:05:27,880 --> 01:05:32,480
Speaker 1: we before we go, I know, and spend a message

1130
01:05:32,480 --> 01:05:35,120
Speaker 1: to the listeners that you know what. We know it's

1131
01:05:35,120 --> 01:05:37,600
Speaker 1: scary and we know it's tough, but if you are

1132
01:05:37,680 --> 01:05:40,680
Speaker 1: active duty and you are, however having housing problems, please

1133
01:05:40,680 --> 01:05:43,600
Speaker 1: stand up and say something. You can reach out to me,

1134
01:05:43,680 --> 01:05:46,840
Speaker 1: you can reach out to we. You know, please say something,

1135
01:05:46,960 --> 01:05:49,480
Speaker 1: and you know, let's do the right thing together. Let's

1136
01:05:49,520 --> 01:05:52,600
Speaker 1: try to help we did you want to say something?

1137
01:05:52,640 --> 01:05:55,000
Speaker 1: Kind of pick yeah, piggyback of thought a little bit.

1138
01:05:55,040 --> 01:05:58,360
Speaker 1: I think so many times the American public sees um

1139
01:05:58,400 --> 01:06:00,800
Speaker 1: just kind of like porny love is there with you know,

1140
01:06:00,880 --> 01:06:03,760
Speaker 1: soldiers coming home and you know how wonderful it is.

1141
01:06:03,800 --> 01:06:08,760
Speaker 1: But in reality, this is what our living conditions are alike. Um,

1142
01:06:08,800 --> 01:06:11,400
Speaker 1: you know, not everyone, but there are you know, more

1143
01:06:11,400 --> 01:06:15,120
Speaker 1: than I should be going through this. And just as

1144
01:06:15,160 --> 01:06:17,800
Speaker 1: much as you can write to your congressman, like just

1145
01:06:18,160 --> 01:06:19,800
Speaker 1: we just want people to be aware of what's going

1146
01:06:19,800 --> 01:06:22,280
Speaker 1: on in order to get this um fixed. And I

1147
01:06:22,360 --> 01:06:27,040
Speaker 1: also wanted to just do a little brief um blurb

1148
01:06:27,120 --> 01:06:32,640
Speaker 1: about the Station Foundation because that's okay, yeah, of course, Jack, Okay, Yeah.

1149
01:06:32,640 --> 01:06:35,920
Speaker 1: So I just got back from a week in Montana

1150
01:06:36,120 --> 01:06:41,760
Speaker 1: with fellow Soft Buses and this organization, the Station Foundation.

1151
01:06:42,280 --> 01:06:46,400
Speaker 1: They're just doing such wonderful things for a community. Um.

1152
01:06:46,520 --> 01:06:49,640
Speaker 1: They it's a couple they were the husband was in

1153
01:06:49,720 --> 01:06:53,680
Speaker 1: the one sixf and when he got out, he saw

1154
01:06:53,720 --> 01:06:57,680
Speaker 1: the need for just kind of these guys to come

1155
01:06:57,680 --> 01:07:00,640
Speaker 1: back and get back with family and and so they

1156
01:07:00,680 --> 01:07:03,480
Speaker 1: started this program out in Montana and it is so

1157
01:07:03,600 --> 01:07:07,800
Speaker 1: great to just unplug and get with other soft families

1158
01:07:07,960 --> 01:07:10,400
Speaker 1: and you know, see every everyone's kind of going through

1159
01:07:10,440 --> 01:07:13,600
Speaker 1: the same thing. But the one great thing that they're

1160
01:07:13,600 --> 01:07:16,880
Speaker 1: doing as well is they do a program this summer

1161
01:07:16,920 --> 01:07:20,400
Speaker 1: for gold Star children. They fly gold Star children out

1162
01:07:20,560 --> 01:07:26,760
Speaker 1: with a member from their fallen dad's which I think

1163
01:07:26,880 --> 01:07:30,640
Speaker 1: is just incredible, and they celebrate his life together for

1164
01:07:30,720 --> 01:07:34,840
Speaker 1: that week out there among other thought kids. Yeah, and

1165
01:07:36,160 --> 01:07:38,800
Speaker 1: it means so much to um, you know, the kids

1166
01:07:38,880 --> 01:07:41,680
Speaker 1: who often they didn't get to know their father the

1167
01:07:41,680 --> 01:07:44,120
Speaker 1: way they wanted to. And as they grow up, I've

1168
01:07:44,160 --> 01:07:46,280
Speaker 1: just found it means so much for them to like

1169
01:07:46,360 --> 01:07:51,800
Speaker 1: hear stories about their dad. Right, and for people who

1170
01:07:51,800 --> 01:07:54,160
Speaker 1: want to check that out. Lee, what's the organization again,

1171
01:07:54,440 --> 01:07:58,080
Speaker 1: It's called the Station Foundation. Got it will link to

1172
01:07:58,160 --> 01:08:03,000
Speaker 1: them and then uh and Lee also the Facebook group. Yeah,

1173
01:08:03,080 --> 01:08:06,200
Speaker 1: so Crystal, Uh, what do you want to say about that?

1174
01:08:06,240 --> 01:08:10,400
Speaker 1: Really quick? Um? So that's College Safe UM, the Safe

1175
01:08:10,400 --> 01:08:16,280
Speaker 1: Military Housing Initiatives Facebook group also if you're having questions

1176
01:08:16,280 --> 01:08:20,719
Speaker 1: about future PCs station UM, check out PCs grades. They're

1177
01:08:20,760 --> 01:08:27,240
Speaker 1: building their database to include recent reviews of military housing

1178
01:08:27,360 --> 01:08:31,559
Speaker 1: and military housing and off face housing as well. Check

1179
01:08:31,600 --> 01:08:35,200
Speaker 1: out PCs grades. Also, we have support from the Trcare

1180
01:08:35,280 --> 01:08:39,000
Speaker 1: for Kids Coalition. They've been UM supporting us and and

1181
01:08:39,120 --> 01:08:41,600
Speaker 1: doing their best to lobby and hold you know, like

1182
01:08:41,680 --> 01:08:44,200
Speaker 1: the Department Health. I'm sorry, the Defense Health Agency is

1183
01:08:44,479 --> 01:08:48,720
Speaker 1: accountable UM. And we also, you know, if you're having

1184
01:08:48,720 --> 01:08:52,160
Speaker 1: housing issues, definitely reach out to MALA, which is the

1185
01:08:52,240 --> 01:08:56,759
Speaker 1: Military Officers Association of America as well. They've been UM

1186
01:08:56,800 --> 01:09:00,679
Speaker 1: pretty important and and listening to their members about housing

1187
01:09:00,680 --> 01:09:06,120
Speaker 1: issues as well. Absolutely. Yeah, I hope you know, combined, UM,

1188
01:09:06,600 --> 01:09:08,760
Speaker 1: you're able to get the ball rolling on something. I mean,

1189
01:09:08,800 --> 01:09:11,280
Speaker 1: just from my point of view, my my way person's

1190
01:09:11,320 --> 01:09:12,840
Speaker 1: point of view, it sounds like there needs to be

1191
01:09:13,120 --> 01:09:20,880
Speaker 1: a sweeping corruption investigation into this subject and honesty, the

1192
01:09:20,920 --> 01:09:23,800
Speaker 1: more people who are aware, you know, just as I'm

1193
01:09:23,920 --> 01:09:27,400
Speaker 1: doing this interview googling John Percern he paid. He definitely

1194
01:09:27,400 --> 01:09:30,639
Speaker 1: paints a very flowery picture of himself, and I'm sure

1195
01:09:30,680 --> 01:09:33,519
Speaker 1: he does a good job of presenting himself as someone

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01:09:33,520 --> 01:09:37,240
Speaker 1: who's helping military families to you know, potential investors in

1197
01:09:37,280 --> 01:09:39,360
Speaker 1: that type of thing. And you know, we have a

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01:09:39,400 --> 01:09:42,800
Speaker 1: wide audience obviously, Reuters has a wide audience. If more

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01:09:42,800 --> 01:09:46,320
Speaker 1: and more people hear the name John Pacerna associated with this,

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01:09:46,479 --> 01:09:49,360
Speaker 1: I think you're gonna have less people who who want

1201
01:09:49,360 --> 01:09:51,200
Speaker 1: to have anything to do with him is a part

1202
01:09:51,200 --> 01:09:53,439
Speaker 1: of their business, and I'm sure he relies on a

1203
01:09:53,479 --> 01:09:55,760
Speaker 1: lot of people and a lot of other businesses to

1204
01:09:55,880 --> 01:09:58,599
Speaker 1: do what he does. So you know, hopefully just smearing

1205
01:09:58,720 --> 01:10:01,559
Speaker 1: his name right fully will do some them. I'm not

1206
01:10:01,640 --> 01:10:04,519
Speaker 1: interested in smearing anyone, but you know, we're we're in

1207
01:10:04,560 --> 01:10:07,760
Speaker 1: an age where people get outraged about you know, Chick

1208
01:10:07,840 --> 01:10:11,800
Speaker 1: fil A, Gillette, Eddie Coolers, like all these companies. Like

1209
01:10:11,840 --> 01:10:14,080
Speaker 1: I don't really care about any of them, but this

1210
01:10:14,160 --> 01:10:16,439
Speaker 1: is this, in this case, Corfeus Group. I mean, this

1211
01:10:16,520 --> 01:10:19,320
Speaker 1: is something that's really wrong. But people should be angry,

1212
01:10:19,400 --> 01:10:23,920
Speaker 1: but in all honesty, be angry about that. Yeah, of

1213
01:10:23,960 --> 01:10:26,920
Speaker 1: course it's a it's a higher profile example. But if

1214
01:10:26,960 --> 01:10:29,400
Speaker 1: you look at what's happening with R Kelly right now,

1215
01:10:29,760 --> 01:10:32,120
Speaker 1: the fact that it's become such a big thing and

1216
01:10:32,200 --> 01:10:36,280
Speaker 1: all these women protesting R Kelly, there's finally record labels

1217
01:10:36,320 --> 01:10:39,040
Speaker 1: and artists who associated with it that are coming out

1218
01:10:39,040 --> 01:10:41,479
Speaker 1: and saying like I apologize for working with him, and

1219
01:10:41,720 --> 01:10:47,040
Speaker 1: you know his name is rightfully, you know negative right,

1220
01:10:47,320 --> 01:10:49,200
Speaker 1: and they should be exposed. And I think if the

1221
01:10:49,280 --> 01:10:51,880
Speaker 1: same thing happens, like if more people are just aware

1222
01:10:52,040 --> 01:10:55,280
Speaker 1: of who John Pascern is and they're aware of of

1223
01:10:55,880 --> 01:10:58,880
Speaker 1: Lee's story and crystals story, I think you're gonna have

1224
01:10:58,960 --> 01:11:01,800
Speaker 1: less people who want to work with someone like this. No,

1225
01:11:02,000 --> 01:11:03,880
Speaker 1: I agree, And at the end of the day, the

1226
01:11:04,160 --> 01:11:08,599
Speaker 1: entire MHPI program, the entire project, like you said, needs

1227
01:11:08,600 --> 01:11:13,200
Speaker 1: to have a sweetin investigation into how the money is

1228
01:11:13,240 --> 01:11:16,280
Speaker 1: being here and that's what we're actually relying on the

1229
01:11:16,320 --> 01:11:18,639
Speaker 1: g a O to do that right now as we speak.

1230
01:11:19,400 --> 01:11:21,679
Speaker 1: So Brian Lapour with the g a O has been

1231
01:11:21,680 --> 01:11:26,559
Speaker 1: tasked qu UM to make that happen. So, you know,

1232
01:11:26,800 --> 01:11:28,720
Speaker 1: support the g a O. If you're having issues of

1233
01:11:28,760 --> 01:11:31,160
Speaker 1: your housing, email your stuff to Brian lapor the g

1234
01:11:31,320 --> 01:11:37,840
Speaker 1: a O. That's the Government Accountability Office. That's right, Okay, Well,

1235
01:11:37,960 --> 01:11:40,880
Speaker 1: Lee Crystal, thank you so much for taking the time

1236
01:11:40,920 --> 01:11:43,040
Speaker 1: out of your day today to come on here and

1237
01:11:43,080 --> 01:11:46,920
Speaker 1: talk about this. UM. It's I think much more powerful

1238
01:11:46,960 --> 01:11:49,400
Speaker 1: for people to hear directly from you than for me

1239
01:11:49,520 --> 01:11:51,920
Speaker 1: to our, you know, write an article about this or

1240
01:11:52,000 --> 01:11:55,320
Speaker 1: just talk about it. Um, you know, hearing it directly

1241
01:11:55,360 --> 01:11:57,400
Speaker 1: from you, UM, I think it's going to really connect

1242
01:11:57,479 --> 01:12:00,320
Speaker 1: with a lot of listeners. Well, thank you so much

1243
01:12:00,320 --> 01:12:03,200
Speaker 1: for having us. Thank you, Thank you. If there are

1244
01:12:03,200 --> 01:12:06,040
Speaker 1: any developments in this case or anything happens that you

1245
01:12:06,040 --> 01:12:09,120
Speaker 1: guys like to come back on and talk about this again,

1246
01:12:09,640 --> 01:12:12,560
Speaker 1: please feel free to reach out to us. Thank you,

1247
01:12:13,120 --> 01:12:15,680
Speaker 1: We share will. Thank you so much. Thanks, and we'll

1248
01:12:15,720 --> 01:12:18,160
Speaker 1: have this up tomorrow. I'll email you as soon as

1249
01:12:18,160 --> 01:12:22,080
Speaker 1: I put it up. Thank you. Thanks, all right, thanks girls,

1250
01:12:22,120 --> 01:12:27,400
Speaker 1: all right by. Well, we haven't done a throat Punch

1251
01:12:27,439 --> 01:12:29,720
Speaker 1: of the Week in a very long time. I mean,

1252
01:12:29,720 --> 01:12:32,080
Speaker 1: this is what I was thinking, I think rightfully so

1253
01:12:32,320 --> 01:12:35,160
Speaker 1: throughout Punch of the Week, John Percern, This guy is

1254
01:12:35,200 --> 01:12:37,559
Speaker 1: truly a scumbag. I mean, I just don't know how

1255
01:12:37,640 --> 01:12:42,160
Speaker 1: you could sleep at night knowing that military children are,

1256
01:12:42,200 --> 01:12:45,120
Speaker 1: you know, going through issues like Asthman all this described,

1257
01:12:45,160 --> 01:12:48,160
Speaker 1: and you're able to just you know, not even give

1258
01:12:48,200 --> 01:12:52,960
Speaker 1: any credence to these huge concerns. Yeah, you know. I

1259
01:12:53,640 --> 01:12:55,920
Speaker 1: mean it's not like John Percern goes to sleep at

1260
01:12:56,000 --> 01:12:58,160
Speaker 1: night praying that black mold grows in the houses he

1261
01:12:58,200 --> 01:13:00,439
Speaker 1: built but haven't done anything. But yeah, but he doesn't

1262
01:13:00,439 --> 01:13:03,880
Speaker 1: do ship to fix it. That's that's really the problem. Yeah,

1263
01:13:03,920 --> 01:13:05,920
Speaker 1: And so I think people need to be aware of this.

1264
01:13:06,040 --> 01:13:08,080
Speaker 1: And as they kind of hinted at, he's not the

1265
01:13:08,120 --> 01:13:11,960
Speaker 1: only one. There's definitely other Yeah. And you know the

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Speaker 1: both these women on. Yeah, I think as pretty powerful

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Speaker 1: hopefully you guys are glad that we didn't do I

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Speaker 1: don't know, uh this hour and a half on you

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Speaker 1: hearing about this issue. And it turns out it's like

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Speaker 1: they're like doing this like amateur and like picture analysis

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Speaker 1: react to. And I mean personally, what we've been talking

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Speaker 1: about for the past hour, I'm way more outrage. There's more. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: this is like meaningful discussion. Uh, it's important information. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I just can't do the day to day outrage that

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Speaker 1: low hanging fruit politics. It just isn't important. Yeah, I'm

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Speaker 1: buying into the conspiracy that like social media was you know,

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Speaker 1: created to distract us from real things going on. Because

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Speaker 1: every you know, every day, it's the new outrage over

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Speaker 1: some bullshit you know that really doesn't affect any of us.

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Speaker 1: And look, I get the significance of it, but it's

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Speaker 1: just I mean, the fact that we've discussed this to

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Speaker 1: death for like three days on social media, it's where

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Speaker 1: it's pretty sad. There's there's bigger things go. I was saying,

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Speaker 1: we had last week everyone's up in arms over a

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Speaker 1: but you don't hear anything about this stuff, well except

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Speaker 1: for Reuters who did this pretty important story. But otherwise

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Speaker 1: you don't hear about corvia. Yeah, like why why aren't

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Speaker 1: people outraged about that? And and as you've said before,

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Speaker 1: I mean, unfortunately, this is not what people want to hear.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure more people are clicking on the Jouette ad

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Speaker 1: there's something to be said about it. Action does need

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Speaker 1: to be taken about this, and I think if millions

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Speaker 1: you know what Lee and Crystal were saying about, right,

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Speaker 1: New York Congressman, and you know, to some extent um

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Speaker 1: getting active on the subject. And I hate to use

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Speaker 1: that word like awareness, It's like kind of cliche, but

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Speaker 1: you know, you bring it to people's attention and enough

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Speaker 1: I would hope just also that like a major lossuit

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Speaker 1: it's the only way that a lot of act a

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Speaker 1: I mean that's why I'm glad you know someone like

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Speaker 1: and I'd like to see this guy, in particular in

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Speaker 1: they're there with their laptops getting it done. Um. I

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Speaker 1: wanted to mention this in the intro, but we just

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Speaker 1: didn't have time. Really unfortunate news A base blown up

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Speaker 1: in Afghanistan. Yeah, I think the latest number of casualties

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Speaker 1: was a hundred and twenty six dead. It was a

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Speaker 1: Afghan um NDS compound, which is their intelligence service. So

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Speaker 1: there are a lot of paramilitary commandos Afghan Special Forces

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Speaker 1: soldiers there. UM. I haven't heard anything about American casualties

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Speaker 1: and so hopefully there aren't any. Um. But this is

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Speaker 1: still a tremendous loss for of course the Afghan security forces. Um.

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Speaker 1: There's speculation that the Hakani network was behind it. They

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Speaker 1: had a stolen humby um that I believe was packed

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Speaker 1: with explore thoseives that they drove in and exploded, and

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Speaker 1: This episode is as you guys have um recently. With

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Speaker 1: if I could uncover which email it is. I have

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