1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:03,600 Speaker 1: An illegal alien from Guatemala charged with raping a child 2 00:00:03,680 --> 00:00:07,480 Speaker 1: in Massachusetts. An MS thirteen gang member from Al Salvador 3 00:00:07,720 --> 00:00:11,840 Speaker 1: accused of murdering a Texas man of Venezuelan charged with 4 00:00:11,920 --> 00:00:15,840 Speaker 1: filming and selling child pornography in Michigan. These are just 5 00:00:15,920 --> 00:00:19,680 Speaker 1: some of the heinous migrant criminals caught because of President 6 00:00:19,720 --> 00:00:20,159 Speaker 1: Donald J. 7 00:00:20,239 --> 00:00:21,200 Speaker 2: Trump's leadership. 8 00:00:21,480 --> 00:00:25,079 Speaker 1: I'm Christy nom the United States Secretary of Homeland Security. 9 00:00:25,440 --> 00:00:29,200 Speaker 1: Under President Trump, attempted illegal border crossings are at the 10 00:00:29,240 --> 00:00:33,080 Speaker 1: lowest levels ever recorded, and over one hundred thousand illegal 11 00:00:33,120 --> 00:00:36,920 Speaker 1: aliens have been arrested. If you are here illegally, your 12 00:00:37,040 --> 00:00:41,160 Speaker 1: next you will be fined nearly one thousand dollars a day, imprisoned, 13 00:00:41,479 --> 00:00:42,160 Speaker 1: and deported. 14 00:00:42,600 --> 00:00:43,800 Speaker 2: You will never return. 15 00:00:44,120 --> 00:00:47,120 Speaker 1: But if you register using our CBP home app and 16 00:00:47,240 --> 00:00:50,120 Speaker 1: leave now, you could be allowed to return legally. 17 00:00:50,479 --> 00:00:52,720 Speaker 2: Do what's right. Leave now. 18 00:00:53,040 --> 00:00:57,840 Speaker 1: Under President Trump, America's laws, border and families will be protected. 19 00:00:57,920 --> 00:01:00,000 Speaker 3: Sponsored by the United States Department of Homeland Security. 20 00:01:00,120 --> 00:01:02,640 Speaker 4: What is your stance on reparations, Yes. 21 00:01:03,360 --> 00:01:06,120 Speaker 5: You know, I understand the moral. 22 00:01:08,680 --> 00:01:15,400 Speaker 6: The moral argument for reparations. I think race paper based 23 00:01:15,440 --> 00:01:23,680 Speaker 6: reparations are are very, very obviously unconstitutional under the you 24 00:01:23,680 --> 00:01:24,640 Speaker 6: know reason. 25 00:01:26,600 --> 00:01:30,560 Speaker 5: Supreme Court decision in the Harvard case. Oh I you know. 26 00:01:30,680 --> 00:01:37,319 Speaker 6: My approach to economic development in black communities, I think 27 00:01:37,440 --> 00:01:43,880 Speaker 6: is more comprehensive than that, and you know less and constitutions. 28 00:01:44,160 --> 00:01:48,640 Speaker 6: I've worked for thirty five years as on the board 29 00:01:48,680 --> 00:01:52,200 Speaker 6: of directors of Bedford Steibusant Restoration, which is the oldest 30 00:01:52,280 --> 00:01:56,080 Speaker 6: community development corporation. My father started it in our country 31 00:01:56,120 --> 00:02:00,160 Speaker 6: in one of the poorest black neighborhoods in America, and 32 00:02:00,280 --> 00:02:02,520 Speaker 6: I watched what economic development. 33 00:02:02,080 --> 00:02:03,760 Speaker 5: Could do to those neighborhoods. 34 00:02:03,760 --> 00:02:06,400 Speaker 6: And you know, one of the problems in black neighborhoods 35 00:02:06,480 --> 00:02:11,600 Speaker 6: is that there is no equity. And we have systematically 36 00:02:11,760 --> 00:02:15,720 Speaker 6: stripped equity, including men, namely. 37 00:02:15,440 --> 00:02:18,680 Speaker 5: Home ownership, from black neighborhoods. 38 00:02:19,919 --> 00:02:22,960 Speaker 6: By twenty thirty, there will be essentially he's zero Black 39 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:27,240 Speaker 6: equity left in this country. And that's destroying in these neighborhoods. 40 00:02:27,280 --> 00:02:29,079 Speaker 6: If you don't own a home, if you don't own 41 00:02:29,120 --> 00:02:31,200 Speaker 6: something that you can brow money on, you have no 42 00:02:31,840 --> 00:02:37,000 Speaker 6: entree to American capitalism. You are no longer a citizen. 43 00:02:37,080 --> 00:02:39,959 Speaker 6: You are now as a subject. And you know the 44 00:02:40,520 --> 00:02:45,040 Speaker 6: challenge is and you know those those communities are redlined. 45 00:02:46,120 --> 00:02:49,680 Speaker 6: It was black communities that the entire nation you know, collapse, 46 00:02:49,800 --> 00:02:52,880 Speaker 6: our real estate collapse in two thousand and eight because 47 00:02:52,880 --> 00:02:57,240 Speaker 6: of these balloon mortgages and these exotic instruments. Well those 48 00:02:57,320 --> 00:03:01,560 Speaker 6: companies were testing those exotic instrument for a decade earlier. 49 00:03:01,919 --> 00:03:05,280 Speaker 6: In the black that was the testing zone and those 50 00:03:05,360 --> 00:03:09,320 Speaker 6: you know bedside when I started working there was the 51 00:03:09,400 --> 00:03:13,640 Speaker 6: reason my father chose that neighborhood is it was very poor, 52 00:03:13,680 --> 00:03:17,520 Speaker 6: but it had a high incident of home ownership by 53 00:03:17,520 --> 00:03:19,880 Speaker 6: black families, many who have been there from the Civil War, 54 00:03:20,120 --> 00:03:23,000 Speaker 6: and so they had the opportunity to start businesses and 55 00:03:23,040 --> 00:03:27,520 Speaker 6: they were very entrepreneurial. The problem is they were redlined, 56 00:03:27,560 --> 00:03:30,400 Speaker 6: and my father ended that and got them access to 57 00:03:30,480 --> 00:03:34,639 Speaker 6: capital and the other The problem with black businesses is 58 00:03:34,680 --> 00:03:38,000 Speaker 6: that a lot of you know, there's not the accrued 59 00:03:40,160 --> 00:03:44,360 Speaker 6: knowledge business knowledge in black communities. Like my father always said, 60 00:03:44,600 --> 00:03:48,080 Speaker 6: you know, if he wanted to start a business, he'd 61 00:03:48,120 --> 00:03:50,400 Speaker 6: call a friend of his from Harvard to the Harvard 62 00:03:50,440 --> 00:03:52,800 Speaker 6: Business go and say, how do you solve this problem? 63 00:03:52,840 --> 00:03:55,000 Speaker 6: How do you do this accounting issue? You know, how 64 00:03:55,080 --> 00:03:58,320 Speaker 6: do you how do you handle inventories? You know, how 65 00:03:58,360 --> 00:04:00,400 Speaker 6: do when do you pay for the inventories, et cetera. 66 00:04:01,960 --> 00:04:04,760 Speaker 6: In a black neighborhood, there is not that accrude knowledge 67 00:04:04,840 --> 00:04:07,080 Speaker 6: and people can't pick up the phone and get it. 68 00:04:07,160 --> 00:04:10,680 Speaker 6: So one of the things we did with Bedside is 69 00:04:10,720 --> 00:04:14,240 Speaker 6: we made those mentorships available to them. And when we 70 00:04:14,400 --> 00:04:19,000 Speaker 6: first started working in Bedside Fulton Street in Brooklyn, there 71 00:04:19,080 --> 00:04:21,640 Speaker 6: wasn't a single open business. They were all boarded up. 72 00:04:21,680 --> 00:04:25,600 Speaker 6: Today it's a thriving community with black owned businesses everywhere. 73 00:04:26,640 --> 00:04:28,800 Speaker 6: And you know, the other thing we need to be 74 00:04:28,880 --> 00:04:32,200 Speaker 6: doing in those communities is it's a criminal. It's criminal 75 00:04:32,240 --> 00:04:35,120 Speaker 6: what we're doing to the schools urban schools in this country. 76 00:04:35,440 --> 00:04:40,080 Speaker 6: Kids are not getting educated. They're being warehouse in those schools. 77 00:04:40,160 --> 00:04:43,880 Speaker 6: And you know what I see people teaching about for 78 00:04:44,200 --> 00:04:48,560 Speaker 6: diversity training and you know, and you know all of 79 00:04:48,600 --> 00:04:54,599 Speaker 6: these sort of any racism education and enforcement, et cetera 80 00:04:54,760 --> 00:04:59,160 Speaker 6: that you see, which all great, but you know that's 81 00:04:59,200 --> 00:05:01,120 Speaker 6: not going to insult the problem. What solve is the 82 00:05:01,160 --> 00:05:03,200 Speaker 6: problem if you have a generation of kids who have 83 00:05:03,240 --> 00:05:06,960 Speaker 6: self confidence, who believe in themselves, who have access to capital, 84 00:05:07,040 --> 00:05:10,400 Speaker 6: who are part of families that are building businesses, who 85 00:05:10,520 --> 00:05:12,479 Speaker 6: own a business for themselves. 86 00:05:13,800 --> 00:05:15,520 Speaker 5: I was calling you know when I was a kid. 87 00:05:15,560 --> 00:05:18,120 Speaker 6: There was a lot of anti Catholic president prejudors in 88 00:05:18,120 --> 00:05:21,360 Speaker 6: this country, and I got called names like mackerels Acher, 89 00:05:21,400 --> 00:05:25,120 Speaker 6: et cetera. And it never bothered me. I would think, 90 00:05:25,240 --> 00:05:27,640 Speaker 6: you know that that person's problem. They're calling me that 91 00:05:27,760 --> 00:05:30,120 Speaker 6: I'm proud of who I am. I'm proud of my religion. 92 00:05:30,560 --> 00:05:34,040 Speaker 6: And you know I was able to feel that. 93 00:05:33,920 --> 00:05:38,400 Speaker 4: Way, mystic mister Kennedy. Not to cut you off, but 94 00:05:38,520 --> 00:05:41,720 Speaker 4: just I just wanted to go because you see. So, 95 00:05:42,120 --> 00:05:44,400 Speaker 4: I think we did two different conversations. As far as 96 00:05:44,440 --> 00:05:47,280 Speaker 4: black economic empowerment. That's important, that's kind of the basis 97 00:05:47,320 --> 00:05:50,080 Speaker 4: of our of our whole show. But the question was 98 00:05:50,080 --> 00:05:53,359 Speaker 4: specifically around reparations. So you said, you know your anti that, 99 00:05:53,880 --> 00:05:56,159 Speaker 4: and you said that I believe you say it's unconstitutional. 100 00:05:56,720 --> 00:06:02,280 Speaker 4: But where Japanese Americans not compensated for what happened to 101 00:06:02,400 --> 00:06:03,520 Speaker 4: them during World War Two? 102 00:06:04,400 --> 00:06:04,599 Speaker 5: Yeah? 103 00:06:04,920 --> 00:06:09,640 Speaker 6: Job, and these Americans were compensated. And I think if 104 00:06:09,720 --> 00:06:16,640 Speaker 6: reparations were not race based, that for example, if you 105 00:06:16,720 --> 00:06:21,240 Speaker 6: just said, no matter what race you are, if you 106 00:06:21,279 --> 00:06:24,960 Speaker 6: can trace your lineage back to slavery, there you could 107 00:06:25,080 --> 00:06:29,240 Speaker 6: you could not do reparations for Jim Crow. You can 108 00:06:29,279 --> 00:06:32,080 Speaker 6: make a very strong moral case for that, you know, 109 00:06:33,320 --> 00:06:35,479 Speaker 6: and I grew up in a Jim Crow's day, But 110 00:06:35,920 --> 00:06:39,200 Speaker 6: you couldn't. You can't do race based. You could say, okay, 111 00:06:39,240 --> 00:06:43,560 Speaker 6: if I trace my lineage back to slavery and my 112 00:06:43,720 --> 00:06:47,480 Speaker 6: family was, you know, promised forty acres a mule, and 113 00:06:47,520 --> 00:06:50,440 Speaker 6: then we got double crossed on that that you can 114 00:06:50,960 --> 00:06:54,760 Speaker 6: that you know, you could conceivably bring that case and 115 00:06:54,800 --> 00:06:55,640 Speaker 6: that it would be. 116 00:06:58,120 --> 00:07:00,560 Speaker 5: That would pass constitution. Monster. 117 00:07:00,760 --> 00:07:07,520 Speaker 6: Do I think that that case politically that you could, 118 00:07:07,760 --> 00:07:12,320 Speaker 6: that you could you could push through those kind of 119 00:07:12,400 --> 00:07:15,520 Speaker 6: reparations in Congress. I think it would be a very 120 00:07:15,640 --> 00:07:17,239 Speaker 6: very heavy lift. 121 00:07:24,240 --> 00:07:25,760 Speaker 3: So you brought up a few issues, right. 122 00:07:25,800 --> 00:07:27,960 Speaker 7: You talked about the lack of education in our community, 123 00:07:28,120 --> 00:07:30,960 Speaker 7: the lack of schools which hence talks about the lack 124 00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:33,640 Speaker 7: of education. Talked about the lack of businesses in our communities. 125 00:07:34,120 --> 00:07:37,600 Speaker 7: You said, the issues with having no home equity, and 126 00:07:37,640 --> 00:07:39,400 Speaker 7: these are all issues redlining. 127 00:07:38,960 --> 00:07:39,480 Speaker 3: You brought up. 128 00:07:40,040 --> 00:07:43,240 Speaker 7: I want to talk about something that also plagues our communities, 129 00:07:43,480 --> 00:07:47,239 Speaker 7: and that's criminal justice and mass incarceration. 130 00:07:48,320 --> 00:07:50,240 Speaker 3: And social criminal justice reform. 131 00:07:50,320 --> 00:07:52,000 Speaker 7: So I want to know what your thoughts around that, because, 132 00:07:52,040 --> 00:07:56,160 Speaker 7: as we know, black African Americans and LATINX community are 133 00:07:56,160 --> 00:08:00,680 Speaker 7: disproportionately incarcerated, more so than anybody in our country and 134 00:08:00,680 --> 00:08:04,280 Speaker 7: pretty much the world for that matter. So what are 135 00:08:04,320 --> 00:08:10,000 Speaker 7: your thoughts around criminal justice for form, Well. 136 00:08:09,880 --> 00:08:12,640 Speaker 6: I think the you know, the nineteen eighty six Criminal 137 00:08:12,800 --> 00:08:16,240 Speaker 6: Justice Act and then you know nineteen ninety four, which 138 00:08:16,280 --> 00:08:20,360 Speaker 6: instantly were both supported by were written on both of 139 00:08:20,400 --> 00:08:27,040 Speaker 6: them by President Biden, were you know, probably the worst 140 00:08:27,160 --> 00:08:30,960 Speaker 6: blight on the African American community. And you know, we 141 00:08:31,800 --> 00:08:35,320 Speaker 6: as you guys know, there was one hundred to one 142 00:08:36,400 --> 00:08:39,280 Speaker 6: in the in the nineteen eighty six Act, there was 143 00:08:39,360 --> 00:08:46,839 Speaker 6: one hundred to one penalty for for for crack cocaine. 144 00:08:47,040 --> 00:08:51,600 Speaker 6: Visa the powder cocaine and crack cocaine was a black 145 00:08:51,679 --> 00:08:55,199 Speaker 6: job drug. They're both cocaine, they're both the same drug, 146 00:08:55,320 --> 00:08:58,280 Speaker 6: but the form was more common. 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It was for drug crimes. And we 209 00:12:38,320 --> 00:12:41,839 Speaker 6: destroyed an entire generation of Black Americans. We made it 210 00:12:41,920 --> 00:12:46,240 Speaker 6: in many states so they can't vote, they're disenfranchised. It 211 00:12:46,360 --> 00:12:49,360 Speaker 6: was a generation of black children who were raised without 212 00:12:49,400 --> 00:12:54,760 Speaker 6: their fathers, and you know, there was a you know, 213 00:12:55,679 --> 00:12:58,520 Speaker 6: that's where rap music came from. All of these, you know, 214 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:03,360 Speaker 6: the entire culture of the black community. Because jailing was 215 00:13:03,440 --> 00:13:07,240 Speaker 6: a prison was so commonplace became it became a you know, 216 00:13:07,240 --> 00:13:11,040 Speaker 6: a part of the part part of the cultural a 217 00:13:11,080 --> 00:13:12,720 Speaker 6: typical cultural experience. 218 00:13:13,440 --> 00:13:15,600 Speaker 7: I'm sorry, are you saying that country. 219 00:13:15,679 --> 00:13:19,840 Speaker 6: No, and I will your answer your question. I want 220 00:13:19,920 --> 00:13:21,720 Speaker 6: to get I want to stop. 221 00:13:22,000 --> 00:13:23,320 Speaker 7: Yeah, I just wanted to be clear what you were 222 00:13:23,360 --> 00:13:25,400 Speaker 7: saying about the music itself. You're saying that the music 223 00:13:25,440 --> 00:13:28,920 Speaker 7: derived from the mass incarceration or because I just want 224 00:13:28,920 --> 00:13:29,960 Speaker 7: to be clear, I. 225 00:13:29,960 --> 00:13:33,560 Speaker 6: Mean, madis incarceration dictated the way people dress the music. 226 00:13:33,600 --> 00:13:36,199 Speaker 6: All I'm saying is that it was so power, such 227 00:13:36,200 --> 00:13:41,320 Speaker 6: a powerful and universal experience that it put the stamp 228 00:13:43,000 --> 00:13:46,600 Speaker 6: on every aspect of black culture. And it's you know, 229 00:13:46,880 --> 00:13:50,120 Speaker 6: I don't think that that's I'm not saying anything. I'm 230 00:13:50,160 --> 00:13:53,800 Speaker 6: certainly not saying anything against rap music. I'm just saying 231 00:13:53,840 --> 00:13:59,600 Speaker 6: that it changed, It altered the entire culture, and it's 232 00:13:59,640 --> 00:14:02,160 Speaker 6: not you know, it's not a good thing. 233 00:14:02,320 --> 00:14:04,160 Speaker 5: It was not a good thing for our country. 234 00:14:04,240 --> 00:14:07,600 Speaker 6: It was definitely not a good thing for the black population, 235 00:14:07,840 --> 00:14:11,840 Speaker 6: or for economic development, or or people being able to 236 00:14:11,840 --> 00:14:15,080 Speaker 6: live in this country and fulfill their potential and fulfill 237 00:14:15,160 --> 00:14:16,320 Speaker 6: their expectations. 238 00:14:16,480 --> 00:14:20,840 Speaker 5: In prison's not a good place to do that. So, 239 00:14:22,160 --> 00:14:23,560 Speaker 5: you know, that's all I was saying. 240 00:14:23,600 --> 00:14:27,160 Speaker 6: And I you know, as president, I'm going to do 241 00:14:27,280 --> 00:14:31,520 Speaker 6: everything I can to make sure my father fought you know, Uh, 242 00:14:31,880 --> 00:14:35,720 Speaker 6: tooth and nail, or prison reform to make sure that 243 00:14:35,760 --> 00:14:38,200 Speaker 6: people when they came out of prison, that they had training, 244 00:14:38,320 --> 00:14:42,920 Speaker 6: that they had that they had opportunities for education, that 245 00:14:42,960 --> 00:14:47,400 Speaker 6: they had opportunities when they got out, and that people 246 00:14:47,400 --> 00:14:51,680 Speaker 6: weren't in prison for you know, for rhymes, that that 247 00:14:51,720 --> 00:14:53,240 Speaker 6: they shouldn't be in prison for. 248 00:14:55,880 --> 00:14:56,280 Speaker 5: Anyway. 249 00:14:56,400 --> 00:14:59,600 Speaker 6: I mean one way, my father died. All of the 250 00:14:59,600 --> 00:15:03,320 Speaker 6: the It's It's sing sing an Attica wore black armbands 251 00:15:03,480 --> 00:15:09,920 Speaker 6: because the commitment he'd made to better the conditions in 252 00:15:10,040 --> 00:15:13,720 Speaker 6: the prisons and to give opportunities to people, you know, that. 253 00:15:13,680 --> 00:15:16,640 Speaker 5: They're not cast away. You know, what I want to do. 254 00:15:18,160 --> 00:15:21,560 Speaker 6: Is start is you know, but prisons are now the 255 00:15:21,600 --> 00:15:24,600 Speaker 6: biggest industry in rural areas in our country, and I 256 00:15:24,680 --> 00:15:29,200 Speaker 6: want to develop instead a string of farm drug rehabs 257 00:15:29,240 --> 00:15:35,000 Speaker 6: and healing farms in those same rural communities where people 258 00:15:35,120 --> 00:15:37,720 Speaker 6: can go if they get involved with drugs, if they 259 00:15:38,560 --> 00:15:43,040 Speaker 6: if they're you know, if they're debilitated by depression or 260 00:15:45,120 --> 00:15:50,920 Speaker 6: or dependence on on on psychiatric drugs that they want 261 00:15:50,960 --> 00:15:53,160 Speaker 6: to get off of, there's places for them to go 262 00:15:53,240 --> 00:15:55,680 Speaker 6: where they can learn to live in communities again, where 263 00:15:55,680 --> 00:15:59,160 Speaker 6: they can receive job training where they can receive to 264 00:15:59,240 --> 00:16:02,920 Speaker 6: get social skills and make sure they can. 265 00:16:02,800 --> 00:16:05,320 Speaker 5: Get GEDs and education. 266 00:16:05,360 --> 00:16:10,320 Speaker 6: Or whatever, and that we have a humane way of 267 00:16:10,360 --> 00:16:13,840 Speaker 6: treating people in this country who who've gone off on 268 00:16:13,920 --> 00:16:16,000 Speaker 6: the wrong you know, on the wrong tack. 269 00:16:16,320 --> 00:16:18,080 Speaker 5: Listen, I was a drug addict. 270 00:16:17,760 --> 00:16:22,800 Speaker 6: For fourteen years when I was a kid after my 271 00:16:22,920 --> 00:16:25,680 Speaker 6: dad died. And you know, if I had been in 272 00:16:25,720 --> 00:16:30,280 Speaker 6: a black community, I'd probably be in prison today. Oh, 273 00:16:30,320 --> 00:16:32,440 Speaker 6: you know, that's not fair and it's not a good 274 00:16:32,480 --> 00:16:35,960 Speaker 6: thing for our country. And you know, I don't you know, 275 00:16:36,000 --> 00:16:38,560 Speaker 6: it's going to be one of my priorities as president. 276 00:16:39,160 --> 00:16:42,000 Speaker 7: I mean, but the issue is systemic, right, we can 277 00:16:42,080 --> 00:16:45,160 Speaker 7: all agree on that, and we all know from statistics 278 00:16:45,160 --> 00:16:46,480 Speaker 7: that it hasn't been. 279 00:16:46,360 --> 00:16:47,960 Speaker 3: A place to rehabilitate people. 280 00:16:48,000 --> 00:16:51,560 Speaker 7: But from a business standpoint, I mean, the more prisoners 281 00:16:51,600 --> 00:16:54,600 Speaker 7: that are taking in, the cost for is tremendous, So 282 00:16:55,520 --> 00:16:59,320 Speaker 7: private business specifically, what is the benefit of not in 283 00:16:59,400 --> 00:17:02,400 Speaker 7: prisoning population? Like, what are we going to do to 284 00:17:02,480 --> 00:17:03,080 Speaker 7: combat that? 285 00:17:03,520 --> 00:17:08,639 Speaker 6: If you're elected, let me ask you something besides what 286 00:17:08,800 --> 00:17:12,359 Speaker 6: I said, what do you think I should be doing? 287 00:17:14,359 --> 00:17:15,560 Speaker 3: What do I think you should be doing? 288 00:17:15,760 --> 00:17:17,239 Speaker 5: I mean, yeah, what do you think I mean? 289 00:17:17,680 --> 00:17:20,760 Speaker 6: Tell me what if you were president, or if I'm 290 00:17:20,880 --> 00:17:24,680 Speaker 6: president and I call you up on the first week 291 00:17:24,720 --> 00:17:26,439 Speaker 6: and say, will you come up here and give me 292 00:17:26,480 --> 00:17:27,160 Speaker 6: a plan for. 293 00:17:28,600 --> 00:17:30,600 Speaker 5: Prison reform? What are you going to tell me to do? 294 00:17:30,920 --> 00:17:31,040 Speaker 3: Well? 295 00:17:31,160 --> 00:17:35,000 Speaker 7: I don't think it's it's a singular proposal, right. I 296 00:17:35,000 --> 00:17:38,200 Speaker 7: think that's something that we'd have to discuss amongst our people. 297 00:17:39,480 --> 00:17:41,320 Speaker 3: From a place that's education. 298 00:17:41,080 --> 00:17:43,159 Speaker 5: I can sound like a politician. 299 00:17:43,160 --> 00:17:45,760 Speaker 7: No, I'm sounded like somebody that's answering your question right 300 00:17:45,960 --> 00:17:50,320 Speaker 7: from a standpoint that we know the issues and we 301 00:17:50,400 --> 00:17:52,800 Speaker 7: know the people that benefit from it. But every time 302 00:17:52,840 --> 00:17:55,600 Speaker 7: somebody is, you know, trying to be elected for an 303 00:17:55,720 --> 00:17:58,680 Speaker 7: office or a seat, they talk about policies, but none 304 00:17:58,680 --> 00:18:01,080 Speaker 7: of them ever implemented. And so I'm asking you specifically, 305 00:18:01,119 --> 00:18:04,240 Speaker 7: what are the policies, right, are the other educational programs? 306 00:18:04,720 --> 00:18:09,359 Speaker 3: Is it police reform? Are are we having better training? Like? 307 00:18:09,560 --> 00:18:11,480 Speaker 7: What are the specific things that are going to be 308 00:18:11,480 --> 00:18:12,960 Speaker 7: implemented to combat it? 309 00:18:14,960 --> 00:18:15,120 Speaker 6: Well? 310 00:18:15,160 --> 00:18:18,199 Speaker 5: You know, I have a guy who's working on my campaign. 311 00:18:19,720 --> 00:18:26,040 Speaker 6: Who is who served a long bid in prison and 312 00:18:26,640 --> 00:18:30,200 Speaker 6: he learned to he got his ged and he got 313 00:18:30,240 --> 00:18:35,960 Speaker 6: an education, and he came out feeling like it actually 314 00:18:36,040 --> 00:18:37,920 Speaker 6: had been a good positive. 315 00:18:37,440 --> 00:18:39,160 Speaker 5: Experience for him. 316 00:18:39,720 --> 00:18:43,560 Speaker 6: And so I think it's possible that people go to 317 00:18:44,480 --> 00:18:48,720 Speaker 6: particularly when young people go to prison, and we give 318 00:18:48,760 --> 00:18:53,080 Speaker 6: them opportunities to actually make themselves better for when they 319 00:18:53,119 --> 00:18:53,959 Speaker 6: get out of prison. 320 00:18:54,720 --> 00:18:57,200 Speaker 5: And you know, I've been in prison. I served. 321 00:18:58,160 --> 00:19:02,880 Speaker 6: I spent the summer of two thousand one in maximum 322 00:19:02,960 --> 00:19:07,639 Speaker 6: security federal prison in Puerto Rico. And you know, in 323 00:19:07,680 --> 00:19:11,000 Speaker 6: that particular prison, there were a lot of educational opportunities 324 00:19:11,040 --> 00:19:13,040 Speaker 6: for people, and there were other opportunities, and then there 325 00:19:13,080 --> 00:19:15,600 Speaker 6: were things that were foreclosed, like I couldn't go to 326 00:19:15,640 --> 00:19:17,560 Speaker 6: AA meetings when I was in that prison. 327 00:19:19,200 --> 00:19:20,400 Speaker 5: There's something wrong with that. 328 00:19:20,520 --> 00:19:22,439 Speaker 6: A lot of people are in prison you want that 329 00:19:22,840 --> 00:19:27,280 Speaker 6: have access to recovery. So I know I could tell 330 00:19:27,359 --> 00:19:31,480 Speaker 6: you right now that you know if when I'm present, 331 00:19:31,520 --> 00:19:34,360 Speaker 6: I'm going to make sure that federal prisons, that federal 332 00:19:34,359 --> 00:19:38,960 Speaker 6: prisoners have access to twelve step program. If somebody wants 333 00:19:39,000 --> 00:19:42,480 Speaker 6: to recover, that's a perfect place to do it. But 334 00:19:42,640 --> 00:19:44,879 Speaker 6: you know what I'm also asking you, and I you know, 335 00:19:44,960 --> 00:19:48,880 Speaker 6: I'm going to provide educational opportunities and make sure that 336 00:19:49,160 --> 00:19:51,359 Speaker 6: you know that we do everything that we get that 337 00:19:51,800 --> 00:19:56,719 Speaker 6: identify model programs around the country that are working and 338 00:19:56,760 --> 00:20:00,399 Speaker 6: then try to adopt those protocols in other prison And 339 00:20:00,400 --> 00:20:02,240 Speaker 6: that's all I can tell you. But I mean, I'd 340 00:20:02,280 --> 00:20:04,439 Speaker 6: love to hear because a lot of people ask me 341 00:20:04,480 --> 00:20:08,320 Speaker 6: about prisoner for him and I you know when I 342 00:20:08,400 --> 00:20:10,760 Speaker 6: say to them, And I said this to my friend Champ, 343 00:20:10,800 --> 00:20:12,560 Speaker 6: I said, what would you do with you were me? 344 00:20:12,680 --> 00:20:14,280 Speaker 6: And he said, education. 345 00:20:14,040 --> 00:20:18,000 Speaker 5: Changed my life. So that's a good idea. I want that. 346 00:20:18,040 --> 00:20:22,240 Speaker 6: Available to everybody. And if you have an idea, and 347 00:20:22,400 --> 00:20:24,520 Speaker 6: I want to hear it, you know, because I don't 348 00:20:24,560 --> 00:20:29,800 Speaker 6: know everything. 349 00:20:27,680 --> 00:20:30,840 Speaker 8: A lot about If we're being very honest, we're going 350 00:20:30,920 --> 00:20:33,800 Speaker 8: to have to find a way to offset the seven 351 00:20:33,840 --> 00:20:37,720 Speaker 8: point four billion dollars that they lose annually. So if 352 00:20:38,560 --> 00:20:42,080 Speaker 8: there is cash and money related incentives to lock our 353 00:20:42,119 --> 00:20:44,679 Speaker 8: people up, there has to be a way to funnel 354 00:20:44,720 --> 00:20:46,919 Speaker 8: them from the current system that they're using into another. 355 00:20:47,280 --> 00:20:50,960 Speaker 1: An illegal alien from Guatemala charged with raping a child 356 00:20:50,960 --> 00:20:54,760 Speaker 1: in Massachusetts. 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