1 00:00:05,160 --> 00:00:07,280 Speaker 1: Hey, this is Annie and Samantha. I'm welcome to. 2 00:00:07,280 --> 00:00:18,880 Speaker 2: Stuff and never told you protection of iHeartRadio, and just 3 00:00:18,920 --> 00:00:22,120 Speaker 2: because we live in a real fast moving world. Today, 4 00:00:22,800 --> 00:00:26,279 Speaker 2: for this Monday, Minnie, I'm gonna time stamp it. It 5 00:00:26,360 --> 00:00:31,080 Speaker 2: is November sixth, twenty twenty five, and today we are 6 00:00:31,160 --> 00:00:33,680 Speaker 2: talking about something that has been going on for a while, 7 00:00:34,680 --> 00:00:40,120 Speaker 2: but especially in the age of Trump and MAGA. It's 8 00:00:40,200 --> 00:00:43,360 Speaker 2: men lying about their politics on dating profiles are being 9 00:00:43,600 --> 00:00:47,559 Speaker 2: very very vague. With a small update of something I 10 00:00:47,600 --> 00:00:49,959 Speaker 2: hadn't heard of until Samantha let me know about it. 11 00:00:50,560 --> 00:00:54,520 Speaker 2: That will be at the end. So while it is 12 00:00:54,720 --> 00:00:58,320 Speaker 2: true that some people can have romantic relationships with someone 13 00:00:58,320 --> 00:01:01,520 Speaker 2: who has different political beliefs, certainly couldn't right now, but 14 00:01:01,840 --> 00:01:05,640 Speaker 2: people can. It is easier to find someone who shares 15 00:01:05,680 --> 00:01:09,399 Speaker 2: your values, especially I would argue if you're coming from 16 00:01:09,400 --> 00:01:13,479 Speaker 2: a marginalized community and the current administration is harming you 17 00:01:13,640 --> 00:01:15,800 Speaker 2: and stripping you of your rights and the rights of 18 00:01:15,800 --> 00:01:20,000 Speaker 2: those that you care about, which has been heightened under Yes, 19 00:01:20,080 --> 00:01:25,640 Speaker 2: this current administration. Trump has demonized feminism, he's sexually assaulted 20 00:01:25,680 --> 00:01:32,040 Speaker 2: women and embraced hyper masculinity. So yeah, that's that's pretty polarizing. 21 00:01:32,280 --> 00:01:34,039 Speaker 3: Well did you know he says that he was better 22 00:01:34,040 --> 00:01:35,440 Speaker 3: looking than Mundani, Like a. 23 00:01:37,440 --> 00:01:40,280 Speaker 2: What, oh my god, does it even matter? 24 00:01:40,319 --> 00:01:40,880 Speaker 3: What? 25 00:01:40,880 --> 00:01:41,119 Speaker 1: What? 26 00:01:41,400 --> 00:01:41,600 Speaker 2: Like that? 27 00:01:41,800 --> 00:01:44,560 Speaker 1: But he needed to make that statement. I just just like, 28 00:01:44,680 --> 00:01:45,720 Speaker 1: he's so insecure. 29 00:01:45,959 --> 00:01:48,840 Speaker 2: He is so insecure as a. 30 00:01:49,080 --> 00:01:52,400 Speaker 3: Like almost dying man because he's old, y'all. I'm sorry 31 00:01:52,640 --> 00:01:54,640 Speaker 3: not to be ageist, but he's also not healthy. 32 00:01:54,960 --> 00:01:55,680 Speaker 2: But all that to. 33 00:01:55,640 --> 00:01:59,200 Speaker 3: Say, needs to compare himself to a like a young dude, 34 00:01:59,280 --> 00:02:02,720 Speaker 3: which other the I mean, come on anyway, keep going? 35 00:02:03,040 --> 00:02:07,040 Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, clearly so strong emotions, strong emotions. 36 00:02:06,600 --> 00:02:09,440 Speaker 3: Strong emotions, but like when you're that frail and fragile 37 00:02:09,560 --> 00:02:11,200 Speaker 3: that you need to be like, but I'm better logging 38 00:02:11,240 --> 00:02:12,120 Speaker 3: than him, bro? 39 00:02:12,240 --> 00:02:16,480 Speaker 2: What yeah? Is that the comeback got you? I have 40 00:02:16,520 --> 00:02:19,880 Speaker 2: a friend who I just am like, I don't I 41 00:02:19,960 --> 00:02:22,480 Speaker 2: never want this to be the news story, but just 42 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:25,760 Speaker 2: with you, I want to complain about all of these 43 00:02:25,960 --> 00:02:29,799 Speaker 2: very superficial things about Trump. I would never do it 44 00:02:30,040 --> 00:02:31,760 Speaker 2: because I think that actually takes up a lot of 45 00:02:31,800 --> 00:02:33,959 Speaker 2: space and harms other people exactly. 46 00:02:34,639 --> 00:02:37,200 Speaker 3: But the fact that he needed to compare himself, yes, 47 00:02:37,600 --> 00:02:38,799 Speaker 3: like he had to say. 48 00:02:39,720 --> 00:02:40,919 Speaker 2: What is happening? 49 00:02:41,040 --> 00:02:45,519 Speaker 1: Okay, this is the leader supposedly this is the guy. 50 00:02:45,760 --> 00:02:49,959 Speaker 2: So finding someone who shares your politics, while it doesn't 51 00:02:50,080 --> 00:02:53,480 Speaker 2: necessarily mean you won't find plenty of other issues, maybe 52 00:02:53,800 --> 00:02:58,440 Speaker 2: even political ones, because by goodness I have with them, 53 00:02:58,600 --> 00:03:02,359 Speaker 2: it is generally like a few less things to worry about, 54 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:06,799 Speaker 2: and it indicates that this person and you are more 55 00:03:06,880 --> 00:03:12,639 Speaker 2: likely to agree with several things of on values that 56 00:03:12,680 --> 00:03:17,360 Speaker 2: are important to you. Politics are personal. We've said it, 57 00:03:17,440 --> 00:03:20,480 Speaker 2: people have said it. It's true. Because of this, more 58 00:03:20,480 --> 00:03:25,160 Speaker 2: and more people, women specifically have started asking, typically men, 59 00:03:25,639 --> 00:03:29,760 Speaker 2: before the first date, what are your politics? Who did 60 00:03:29,800 --> 00:03:34,280 Speaker 2: you vote for? And surprise, surprise, a lot of conservative 61 00:03:34,320 --> 00:03:39,640 Speaker 2: men are lying about it to get more dates. Okay, 62 00:03:39,840 --> 00:03:42,520 Speaker 2: and they aren't wrong that a lot of women don't 63 00:03:42,560 --> 00:03:45,640 Speaker 2: want to date them. In the beginning of this year, 64 00:03:46,520 --> 00:03:52,000 Speaker 2: twenty twenty five, reminder, the conservative think tank American Enterprise 65 00:03:52,120 --> 00:03:55,640 Speaker 2: Institute released a study that found while thirty six percent 66 00:03:55,680 --> 00:03:58,920 Speaker 2: of heterosexual men reported they wouldn't date a Trump supporter, 67 00:03:59,400 --> 00:04:03,160 Speaker 2: fifty two percent of heterosexual women reported that they wouldn't. 68 00:04:04,200 --> 00:04:07,960 Speaker 2: Here's some quotes from that. Sixty percent of single women 69 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:10,560 Speaker 2: believe that women will be treated worse under the Trump 70 00:04:10,600 --> 00:04:14,760 Speaker 2: administration of you, only forty seven percent of single men share. 71 00:04:15,240 --> 00:04:19,039 Speaker 2: Not surprisingly, most single women, including three quarters of college 72 00:04:19,160 --> 00:04:22,280 Speaker 2: educated single women, report that they would be less likely 73 00:04:22,360 --> 00:04:25,960 Speaker 2: to date a Trump supporter. Single men and women also 74 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:30,080 Speaker 2: have dramatically different views about what Trump's election means. Single 75 00:04:30,120 --> 00:04:35,120 Speaker 2: women are uniquely fearful of Trump's return to power. Among 76 00:04:35,120 --> 00:04:38,080 Speaker 2: those who voted for Kamala Harris, forty one percent of 77 00:04:38,120 --> 00:04:41,360 Speaker 2: single women and twenty six percent of single men report 78 00:04:41,400 --> 00:04:45,479 Speaker 2: that they are frightened by Trump's election. Six to ten 79 00:04:45,720 --> 00:04:48,240 Speaker 2: single women believe that women in the US will be 80 00:04:48,320 --> 00:04:53,000 Speaker 2: worse off under a second Trump presidency. Most single men 81 00:04:53,279 --> 00:04:57,840 Speaker 2: do not share these concerns. I also think something that's 82 00:04:57,880 --> 00:05:02,200 Speaker 2: not being discussed as much he is the intensity of 83 00:05:02,279 --> 00:05:06,000 Speaker 2: women's dislike of Trump. It's not like a minor dislike. 84 00:05:06,040 --> 00:05:10,679 Speaker 4: It's like a big one, like a vitual that is, yes, 85 00:05:11,120 --> 00:05:18,200 Speaker 4: saving out exactly some women that I might be, Yes, Well, 86 00:05:18,240 --> 00:05:20,920 Speaker 4: you might get to see some of it already, heard 87 00:05:20,960 --> 00:05:21,720 Speaker 4: some of it already. 88 00:05:22,240 --> 00:05:26,719 Speaker 2: Here's a quote from American Survey Center. The antipathy young 89 00:05:26,760 --> 00:05:30,800 Speaker 2: women feel towards Donald Trump has been well documented, but 90 00:05:31,160 --> 00:05:34,120 Speaker 2: the strength of the aversion they feel towards him is 91 00:05:34,240 --> 00:05:38,040 Speaker 2: less remarked upon. The typical way we measure feelings toward 92 00:05:38,160 --> 00:05:41,039 Speaker 2: political figures is on a scale of very favorable to 93 00:05:41,160 --> 00:05:45,839 Speaker 2: very unfavorable. Seventy five percent of unmarried young women have 94 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:51,520 Speaker 2: a very unfavorable view of Trump. But this survey question 95 00:05:51,640 --> 00:05:55,919 Speaker 2: does not adequately capture the visceral feelings of disgust many 96 00:05:56,000 --> 00:05:59,960 Speaker 2: young women have for Trump. A twenty sixteen ap pole 97 00:06:00,200 --> 00:06:03,000 Speaker 2: found that a majority of young women said the term 98 00:06:03,279 --> 00:06:06,200 Speaker 2: sexist described Trump, which, yeah. 99 00:06:06,480 --> 00:06:08,560 Speaker 3: I feel like that's the polite way of saying that's 100 00:06:08,560 --> 00:06:14,120 Speaker 3: the nicest way to say it. Very very of diplomatic, 101 00:06:14,560 --> 00:06:16,640 Speaker 3: politically correct here, I know. 102 00:06:18,080 --> 00:06:21,320 Speaker 2: The dating app Hilly released a survey around the same 103 00:06:21,320 --> 00:06:23,760 Speaker 2: time that found one in three of gen Z and 104 00:06:23,800 --> 00:06:28,240 Speaker 2: millennial women wouldn't date someone with different political beliefs. I 105 00:06:28,279 --> 00:06:33,320 Speaker 2: believe the prevailing quote was I'd rather die alone only 106 00:06:33,400 --> 00:06:37,760 Speaker 2: one only one and ten of the men surveyed reported 107 00:06:37,760 --> 00:06:42,960 Speaker 2: the same thing. A twenty twenty Pew Research study found 108 00:06:42,960 --> 00:06:46,320 Speaker 2: that while half of Republicans said they probably are definitely 109 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:50,039 Speaker 2: wouldn't date someone who voted for Biden, seventy one percent 110 00:06:50,600 --> 00:06:53,719 Speaker 2: of Democratic women said they probably are definitely wouldn't date 111 00:06:53,800 --> 00:06:56,760 Speaker 2: someone who voted for Trump. A twenty twenty four survey 112 00:06:56,800 --> 00:06:59,840 Speaker 2: of one thousand people from the dating app Coffee Meats 113 00:06:59,839 --> 00:07:02,839 Speaker 2: Bay found that eighty three percent would be willing to 114 00:07:03,080 --> 00:07:07,760 Speaker 2: end the relationship based on politics. Eighty three percent. Yeah, 115 00:07:08,000 --> 00:07:10,720 Speaker 2: it's and these are only a handful of numbers listeners. 116 00:07:10,840 --> 00:07:13,520 Speaker 2: There has been a lot about that. 117 00:07:14,080 --> 00:07:15,560 Speaker 3: I was just thinking about the fact that you were 118 00:07:15,560 --> 00:07:17,760 Speaker 3: saying the single some of the single men who said 119 00:07:17,760 --> 00:07:20,320 Speaker 3: they would be afraid, I'm sure they were all Like, 120 00:07:20,360 --> 00:07:23,200 Speaker 3: I wonder if they're part of the queer community. Yeah, 121 00:07:23,200 --> 00:07:26,080 Speaker 3: I could chug of those people or like some marginalized 122 00:07:26,080 --> 00:07:30,960 Speaker 3: group single men, like it wasn't just white obviously, Yeah, 123 00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:32,200 Speaker 3: white heteronormative men. 124 00:07:32,760 --> 00:07:37,760 Speaker 2: Yes, I would not be surprised at all. Uh. I'm 125 00:07:37,800 --> 00:07:42,280 Speaker 2: also not surprised about this. Unfortunately, what have conservative men 126 00:07:42,360 --> 00:07:46,080 Speaker 2: started doing because of all this? They have been labeling 127 00:07:46,120 --> 00:07:53,080 Speaker 2: themselves as moderate or being otherwise very politically vague, so 128 00:07:53,120 --> 00:07:55,640 Speaker 2: that they can match with women who have like a 129 00:07:55,680 --> 00:07:59,400 Speaker 2: no Conservatives descriptor or something like that in their profile 130 00:07:59,440 --> 00:08:04,280 Speaker 2: where they meet see that and just swipe left. This 131 00:08:04,360 --> 00:08:07,360 Speaker 2: practice has become so widespread from these men that for 132 00:08:07,480 --> 00:08:11,720 Speaker 2: many moderate has become a red flag that's an immediately nope, 133 00:08:12,520 --> 00:08:18,040 Speaker 2: a lot of women have described days months of messaging, 134 00:08:18,120 --> 00:08:22,520 Speaker 2: only to eventually find out not only are these men 135 00:08:22,720 --> 00:08:27,640 Speaker 2: not moderate, but are in fact far right and anti feminist. 136 00:08:28,480 --> 00:08:32,840 Speaker 2: Some even lie, like outright lie about who they voted 137 00:08:32,880 --> 00:08:37,320 Speaker 2: for at first, given that women's rights are under attack, 138 00:08:37,760 --> 00:08:41,880 Speaker 2: reproductive rights are being stripped, the administration's promotion of proto 139 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:46,400 Speaker 2: nationalism to increase the white Christian birth rate in the 140 00:08:46,480 --> 00:08:48,640 Speaker 2: US switch by the way, I almost did that for 141 00:08:48,679 --> 00:08:51,000 Speaker 2: a Monday many but it was such a big topic 142 00:08:51,040 --> 00:08:54,760 Speaker 2: that we're just going to have to come back. But yeah, 143 00:08:54,840 --> 00:08:57,440 Speaker 2: and the rise of online discourse around trad drives that 144 00:08:57,480 --> 00:09:02,240 Speaker 2: women are rightfully anxious about this. It feels like a threat, 145 00:09:02,320 --> 00:09:06,760 Speaker 2: it feels like a violation, and it's exhausting. It's exhausting. 146 00:09:06,880 --> 00:09:11,080 Speaker 2: Dating is already a minefield, and now you may go 147 00:09:11,160 --> 00:09:15,839 Speaker 2: on a date where you have to explain why this 148 00:09:15,880 --> 00:09:19,120 Speaker 2: whole political thing isn't just a difference of opinion. This 149 00:09:19,160 --> 00:09:23,240 Speaker 2: is about safety, it's about rights, it's about humanity. Do 150 00:09:23,320 --> 00:09:25,480 Speaker 2: you see me as human? Do you see me as 151 00:09:25,520 --> 00:09:29,080 Speaker 2: someone deserving equal rights? Now I have to do this. 152 00:09:29,640 --> 00:09:32,040 Speaker 3: If they're lying about it, then they know the significance 153 00:09:32,400 --> 00:09:35,280 Speaker 3: that that's the thing is what bothers me is eventually 154 00:09:35,440 --> 00:09:37,000 Speaker 3: it will come out because they will slip up and 155 00:09:37,040 --> 00:09:40,480 Speaker 3: say something because it inevitably, whether it's an eye roll, 156 00:09:40,559 --> 00:09:43,160 Speaker 3: whether it's a dismissal, whether it's like, oh but he 157 00:09:43,280 --> 00:09:46,160 Speaker 3: wasn't that bad type of conversation, it'll eventually come out, 158 00:09:46,200 --> 00:09:47,920 Speaker 3: and the red flags will be like being because the 159 00:09:47,920 --> 00:09:51,480 Speaker 3: women are like, wait, what the thing is? 160 00:09:51,640 --> 00:09:53,000 Speaker 1: They know? How about it is? 161 00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:54,840 Speaker 3: Is? They know it's a big deal if they have 162 00:09:54,960 --> 00:09:58,079 Speaker 3: to lie to get to these women, And also, why 163 00:09:58,120 --> 00:10:00,840 Speaker 3: would you want to date someone with these things that 164 00:10:00,880 --> 00:10:04,600 Speaker 3: are so against what you quote unquote voted for. As 165 00:10:04,600 --> 00:10:07,720 Speaker 3: well as the fact that didn't they start like these 166 00:10:07,760 --> 00:10:10,880 Speaker 3: conservative dating websites specifically so they could. 167 00:10:10,640 --> 00:10:11,600 Speaker 2: Find their own people. 168 00:10:11,640 --> 00:10:14,000 Speaker 1: Why are they straying away from them so hard? 169 00:10:14,760 --> 00:10:28,120 Speaker 2: Yes, well, part of the reason that this was on 170 00:10:28,160 --> 00:10:29,960 Speaker 2: my radar. We have been talking about doing this for 171 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:33,680 Speaker 2: a while, but it came up again to me recently 172 00:10:33,720 --> 00:10:36,840 Speaker 2: because there was a news article that was about people 173 00:10:36,880 --> 00:10:44,040 Speaker 2: in Washington, DC. Basically nobody likes Trump there. It's pretty rare, 174 00:10:44,880 --> 00:10:48,960 Speaker 2: and so they were saying like conservative men were having 175 00:10:49,000 --> 00:10:51,520 Speaker 2: such a hard time matching, and so it was sort 176 00:10:51,520 --> 00:10:54,880 Speaker 2: of a way of gaming the system, because if you say, 177 00:10:55,760 --> 00:10:59,320 Speaker 2: a lot of dating apps now give you the option 178 00:10:59,480 --> 00:11:05,040 Speaker 2: to screen out if they say conservative or anything like that, 179 00:11:05,200 --> 00:11:07,600 Speaker 2: just immediately screen them out. And so it was sort 180 00:11:07,640 --> 00:11:11,440 Speaker 2: of like a way of getting back. Yeah. So the 181 00:11:11,520 --> 00:11:15,000 Speaker 2: problem is compounded in liberal cities, where conservative men have 182 00:11:15,120 --> 00:11:18,800 Speaker 2: far fewer chances of matching. I saw the nicest, most 183 00:11:18,800 --> 00:11:21,320 Speaker 2: diplomatic quote about this from a woman who was interviewed, 184 00:11:21,600 --> 00:11:24,280 Speaker 2: and she said, well, they really have no option because 185 00:11:24,320 --> 00:11:29,679 Speaker 2: no one wants to take them. But no. That made 186 00:11:29,720 --> 00:11:31,240 Speaker 2: me laugh, but she was saying, like, in such a 187 00:11:31,280 --> 00:11:36,839 Speaker 2: liberal city, you're dating pool. It's very small. Some women 188 00:11:36,920 --> 00:11:39,960 Speaker 2: have reported that men in these situations say things like 189 00:11:40,520 --> 00:11:42,520 Speaker 2: you're in a blue state, You're fine, which makes me 190 00:11:42,559 --> 00:11:46,760 Speaker 2: want to throw something. That is a horrible thing to say. 191 00:11:47,840 --> 00:11:51,719 Speaker 2: Some sites that I found even have like these questions 192 00:11:51,760 --> 00:11:55,360 Speaker 2: like advice about how to how to figure out what 193 00:11:55,520 --> 00:11:59,120 Speaker 2: moderate means to someone you're messaging, which blows my mind 194 00:11:59,240 --> 00:12:03,920 Speaker 2: that there's actual dating advice about this. There's also apps 195 00:12:03,960 --> 00:12:06,880 Speaker 2: like maple Match, which was a dating service to put 196 00:12:06,920 --> 00:12:10,559 Speaker 2: Americans and Canadians together that was created in twenty sixteen 197 00:12:10,720 --> 00:12:13,320 Speaker 2: after the election. By the way, was. 198 00:12:13,320 --> 00:12:16,000 Speaker 1: It a green card yesship. 199 00:12:17,320 --> 00:12:22,240 Speaker 2: Yes, and they were talking about all the numbers went 200 00:12:22,320 --> 00:12:27,120 Speaker 2: way up after the other election. So again, maybe we 201 00:12:27,160 --> 00:12:29,880 Speaker 2: could come back and do that topic for another day. 202 00:12:30,240 --> 00:12:32,200 Speaker 2: Another topic we need to do another day. But I 203 00:12:32,280 --> 00:12:35,959 Speaker 2: did find some articles about how some consider tradwive relationships 204 00:12:36,000 --> 00:12:41,760 Speaker 2: being a twenty four to seven kink relationship. Well, we'll 205 00:12:41,760 --> 00:12:47,960 Speaker 2: come back to that maybe maybe. Okay, So not only 206 00:12:48,360 --> 00:12:51,240 Speaker 2: do women report feeling catfish or being lied to after 207 00:12:51,280 --> 00:12:54,440 Speaker 2: all of this, but there is something else going on here. 208 00:12:54,520 --> 00:12:57,400 Speaker 2: Some men are doing this not just for a date, 209 00:12:57,800 --> 00:13:01,040 Speaker 2: but because they want to change the politics of the 210 00:13:01,120 --> 00:13:04,320 Speaker 2: liberal woman they match with. They see it as like 211 00:13:04,360 --> 00:13:09,760 Speaker 2: a duty and or they can't meet the standards of 212 00:13:09,920 --> 00:13:14,560 Speaker 2: conservative women. They want to have sex before marriage, they 213 00:13:14,600 --> 00:13:18,320 Speaker 2: want the duel income, they want a conquest, they didn't 214 00:13:18,360 --> 00:13:22,000 Speaker 2: actually want to be the breadwinner. So who do they 215 00:13:22,040 --> 00:13:26,439 Speaker 2: go for liberal women because they can't meet conservative women's standards? 216 00:13:26,960 --> 00:13:27,520 Speaker 1: Interesting? 217 00:13:28,160 --> 00:13:31,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, very interesting. Also, like I've read a pretty heartbreaking 218 00:13:31,880 --> 00:13:35,240 Speaker 2: story from a woman that this happened to, and she 219 00:13:35,400 --> 00:13:37,880 Speaker 2: really liked this guy, spent a long time with him, 220 00:13:38,640 --> 00:13:43,520 Speaker 2: and after they had sex, he the next morning he said, 221 00:13:43,520 --> 00:13:46,040 Speaker 2: what do you think is the biggest problem facing feminism, 222 00:13:46,720 --> 00:13:49,560 Speaker 2: and she gave, like, you know, reproductive rights, like a 223 00:13:49,559 --> 00:13:53,200 Speaker 2: bunch of answers that I would agree with, and then 224 00:13:53,280 --> 00:13:55,240 Speaker 2: he said, I think it's because you all hate men, 225 00:13:55,360 --> 00:13:58,880 Speaker 2: and then left, like he just had sex with her 226 00:13:58,960 --> 00:14:02,480 Speaker 2: and left her, and that's so gross that he took 227 00:14:02,559 --> 00:14:07,400 Speaker 2: that final moment to be like, you're actually very unintelligent, 228 00:14:07,960 --> 00:14:08,880 Speaker 2: and here's why. 229 00:14:10,320 --> 00:14:11,160 Speaker 1: Because I tricked you. 230 00:14:11,679 --> 00:14:15,840 Speaker 2: Because I tricked you. There is a pretty fiery Reddit 231 00:14:15,840 --> 00:14:18,480 Speaker 2: post that I found about this, where the poster I 232 00:14:18,520 --> 00:14:22,720 Speaker 2: think it was it was something like too afraid to ask, 233 00:14:23,640 --> 00:14:27,040 Speaker 2: but they asked why are men doing this? And a 234 00:14:27,080 --> 00:14:30,280 Speaker 2: lot of the comments I'm guessing from largely men were 235 00:14:30,400 --> 00:14:34,000 Speaker 2: essentially things like because things have been so radicalized and 236 00:14:34,080 --> 00:14:36,920 Speaker 2: conservatives are seen aren't seen as people anymore. Our people 237 00:14:36,960 --> 00:14:39,120 Speaker 2: won't even give us a chance for more than our 238 00:14:39,160 --> 00:14:43,520 Speaker 2: political beliefs, or that they're actually more progressive than people think. 239 00:14:44,000 --> 00:14:46,720 Speaker 2: I don't believe it in extremes was a big one. 240 00:14:47,560 --> 00:14:50,160 Speaker 2: Once they get to know me better, they'll know I'm 241 00:14:50,160 --> 00:14:53,240 Speaker 2: a good person and forget the lying. I love that one. 242 00:14:53,720 --> 00:14:59,720 Speaker 2: It's discrimination, It's about the economy. I'm a political or 243 00:15:00,040 --> 00:15:03,120 Speaker 2: and believe in it right, I'm glad you have the. 244 00:15:03,040 --> 00:15:08,280 Speaker 1: Privilege to be right, like a political is the biggest 245 00:15:08,280 --> 00:15:11,400 Speaker 1: red Like you are so privileged that you do you 246 00:15:11,480 --> 00:15:15,160 Speaker 1: are securely okay with everything going wrong, and you do 247 00:15:15,200 --> 00:15:18,400 Speaker 1: not care about other people, Like that's the big red flag. 248 00:15:18,760 --> 00:15:21,960 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that was a That one came up a lot. 249 00:15:22,680 --> 00:15:25,440 Speaker 2: I just don't. I mean, I get it, but that 250 00:15:25,560 --> 00:15:30,800 Speaker 2: is the most frustrating, like shrug of responsibility or care 251 00:15:30,960 --> 00:15:36,520 Speaker 2: I've ever just no, no thanks, no thanks. And yeah, 252 00:15:36,560 --> 00:15:39,520 Speaker 2: this whole thing is not surprising. It aligns with a 253 00:15:39,560 --> 00:15:42,920 Speaker 2: lot of pickup culture or lying to get a date 254 00:15:43,040 --> 00:15:46,000 Speaker 2: or hookup that we do see is really popular in 255 00:15:46,440 --> 00:15:51,560 Speaker 2: conservative circles. But it's gross that people, largely heterosexual men 256 00:15:51,600 --> 00:15:55,520 Speaker 2: in this case, feel so comfortable lying, and the hopes 257 00:15:55,520 --> 00:15:58,880 Speaker 2: of getting women invested are getting laid because a lot 258 00:15:58,920 --> 00:16:01,800 Speaker 2: of them said I just have to get her invested 259 00:16:02,160 --> 00:16:10,800 Speaker 2: and then she won't leave right exactly. And I'm not 260 00:16:10,920 --> 00:16:12,040 Speaker 2: saying it's. 261 00:16:11,840 --> 00:16:14,200 Speaker 5: Easy dating these days, but if you have to start 262 00:16:14,200 --> 00:16:17,520 Speaker 5: with a lie, then maybe we should be examining a 263 00:16:17,560 --> 00:16:21,120 Speaker 5: bunch of other things, as has been pointed out by many, 264 00:16:21,280 --> 00:16:24,560 Speaker 5: For a lot of heterosexual, usually white men that have 265 00:16:24,680 --> 00:16:29,760 Speaker 5: never felt threatened by politics, or by like a vagueness. 266 00:16:29,120 --> 00:16:33,840 Speaker 2: Around politics, so they don't understand the actual danger and 267 00:16:33,920 --> 00:16:37,160 Speaker 2: threat that some of us feel, or they dismiss it 268 00:16:37,240 --> 00:16:40,240 Speaker 2: or if they laugh at it. But for marginalized folks, 269 00:16:40,320 --> 00:16:44,120 Speaker 2: this is not the case. That American Enterprise Institute study 270 00:16:44,160 --> 00:16:47,720 Speaker 2: I mentioned earlier, it also found that only thirty five 271 00:16:47,760 --> 00:16:51,480 Speaker 2: percent of unmarried women felt safe using online dating apps. 272 00:16:51,640 --> 00:16:56,000 Speaker 2: Only thirty five percent, And this is a significant drop 273 00:16:56,080 --> 00:16:57,920 Speaker 2: from a previous study in twenty nineteen. 274 00:16:58,080 --> 00:16:59,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a huge job. 275 00:17:00,640 --> 00:17:06,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean thirty Oddly. I actually think this whole 276 00:17:06,600 --> 00:17:09,399 Speaker 2: thing is part of what helped get Trump elected because 277 00:17:09,480 --> 00:17:14,520 Speaker 2: angry single men largely voted for Trump, while single women 278 00:17:14,600 --> 00:17:19,320 Speaker 2: largely didn't. And these men are angry that they're single, uh, 279 00:17:19,359 --> 00:17:22,199 Speaker 2: and so they vote for things that embody that anger, 280 00:17:22,920 --> 00:17:27,800 Speaker 2: this misogyny, but it perpetuates numerous things that are why 281 00:17:27,880 --> 00:17:28,960 Speaker 2: they are single. 282 00:17:29,359 --> 00:17:29,639 Speaker 1: Right. 283 00:17:30,359 --> 00:17:32,639 Speaker 3: Oh, I don't see the like cyclical bit of this, 284 00:17:33,160 --> 00:17:36,520 Speaker 3: Like you are the problem and you are causing more problems. 285 00:17:37,000 --> 00:17:40,560 Speaker 2: Right, Like if we actually honestly worked on rape culture 286 00:17:40,600 --> 00:17:42,600 Speaker 2: and made that better, I promised to you a lot 287 00:17:42,640 --> 00:17:45,720 Speaker 2: more women would be willing to go on dates with you. 288 00:17:46,480 --> 00:17:50,560 Speaker 3: The bar is so low that a decent dude that 289 00:17:50,760 --> 00:17:53,680 Speaker 3: literally is like, yeah, you know what if a woman 290 00:17:53,720 --> 00:17:57,120 Speaker 3: says no and and he walks away, people clap for them. 291 00:17:57,520 --> 00:17:57,960 Speaker 3: I know. 292 00:18:00,320 --> 00:18:02,520 Speaker 2: You're going in the wrong way, my man. 293 00:18:03,520 --> 00:18:06,520 Speaker 1: You really don't have to do that much not lying. 294 00:18:07,200 --> 00:18:09,400 Speaker 3: This is one of the beginnings changing some of your 295 00:18:09,480 --> 00:18:11,639 Speaker 3: views about human rights. 296 00:18:12,160 --> 00:18:13,639 Speaker 2: Barely right. 297 00:18:14,680 --> 00:18:16,639 Speaker 3: I just saw a post about a girl saying that 298 00:18:16,680 --> 00:18:19,080 Speaker 3: she saw this man holding a baby in the correct way, 299 00:18:19,200 --> 00:18:21,480 Speaker 3: and she was like, my uter is jump. 300 00:18:21,760 --> 00:18:26,440 Speaker 2: Man right, it's it's bad news. I know we've talked 301 00:18:26,440 --> 00:18:29,119 Speaker 2: about it before, but every time I hear my friends 302 00:18:29,119 --> 00:18:31,239 Speaker 2: who are still dating their stories, I'm like, this is 303 00:18:31,320 --> 00:18:35,320 Speaker 2: not worth it. This is not worth it. And in fact, 304 00:18:35,400 --> 00:18:40,160 Speaker 2: many of my friends, my women friends, they're just like that, 305 00:18:40,160 --> 00:18:43,600 Speaker 2: you're right, I don't want to date anymore. That's it's 306 00:18:43,640 --> 00:18:49,440 Speaker 2: not worth it. And this contracts with the idea that men, 307 00:18:49,600 --> 00:18:51,480 Speaker 2: a lot of men feel that they are entitled to 308 00:18:51,560 --> 00:18:56,880 Speaker 2: women and resort to violence when they don't get dates. 309 00:18:58,280 --> 00:19:02,439 Speaker 2: We talked about the male loneliness. I think that you 310 00:19:02,480 --> 00:19:06,359 Speaker 2: know in it we said women are lonely too. It's 311 00:19:06,480 --> 00:19:10,040 Speaker 2: just that the male loneliness part is leading. 312 00:19:09,760 --> 00:19:11,840 Speaker 1: To violence, right, leading to death. 313 00:19:12,440 --> 00:19:18,440 Speaker 2: Exactly. Uh So this whole thing, like Trump's ruining your 314 00:19:18,520 --> 00:19:22,320 Speaker 2: dating chances. Dudes, I know you're not listening and you 315 00:19:22,400 --> 00:19:25,480 Speaker 2: never would, but I'm just gonna put it out there. 316 00:19:25,840 --> 00:19:29,919 Speaker 3: Christian nationalism is killing your chances of having a family. 317 00:19:30,359 --> 00:19:36,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, those things that you're like supporting and pushing, they're 318 00:19:36,480 --> 00:19:38,040 Speaker 2: not working out, okay. 319 00:19:38,600 --> 00:19:40,840 Speaker 3: Like the thing is, women are just as lonely, but 320 00:19:40,880 --> 00:19:43,880 Speaker 3: we also have better friend groups. So when we say 321 00:19:43,880 --> 00:19:46,879 Speaker 3: we're okay singles, because we have a family within our 322 00:19:46,920 --> 00:19:49,280 Speaker 3: friend groups. Like I talk about the fact that if 323 00:19:49,440 --> 00:19:52,200 Speaker 3: my relationship with my partner were to end right now, 324 00:19:52,359 --> 00:19:55,040 Speaker 3: I would not want to try to date again, Like 325 00:19:55,119 --> 00:19:57,199 Speaker 3: I feel like I'm already too old, which is an 326 00:19:57,240 --> 00:20:00,560 Speaker 3: age's kind of attitude in the sexist, misogynistic world. But 327 00:20:00,760 --> 00:20:02,720 Speaker 3: also I'm tired, and I don't want to try to 328 00:20:03,040 --> 00:20:05,440 Speaker 3: maneuver through that. Also, I know I have a great 329 00:20:05,480 --> 00:20:10,200 Speaker 3: group of like women who are either single or like childless, 330 00:20:10,200 --> 00:20:12,959 Speaker 3: and we are a community that does okay. We are 331 00:20:13,000 --> 00:20:16,080 Speaker 3: okay because we're not attached to our partner in such 332 00:20:16,080 --> 00:20:18,880 Speaker 3: a way that if one of us, if we would 333 00:20:18,880 --> 00:20:21,120 Speaker 3: break up, like everything falls apart. That's not a thing 334 00:20:21,400 --> 00:20:23,640 Speaker 3: as were once upon a time when you you know, 335 00:20:24,119 --> 00:20:27,400 Speaker 3: my parents specifically and my older siblings, it it did 336 00:20:27,400 --> 00:20:29,560 Speaker 3: feel that way, like they have to figure out their finances, 337 00:20:29,600 --> 00:20:30,800 Speaker 3: they have to figure out how to get you know, 338 00:20:31,119 --> 00:20:33,960 Speaker 3: all these things that really held them into that marriage 339 00:20:34,440 --> 00:20:37,240 Speaker 3: or relationship. And also because they lost a lot of 340 00:20:37,240 --> 00:20:39,560 Speaker 3: their friendships or those friendships are all caught up in 341 00:20:39,600 --> 00:20:42,639 Speaker 3: their families, we have less of that, Like I have 342 00:20:42,840 --> 00:20:44,960 Speaker 3: enough group of people that I'm like, I could lean 343 00:20:45,000 --> 00:20:48,560 Speaker 3: to being able to have my time in I'm gonna 344 00:20:48,560 --> 00:20:51,240 Speaker 3: hang out with this person. This person they would let 345 00:20:51,280 --> 00:20:53,240 Speaker 3: me stay with them if I need like stuff like that. 346 00:20:54,119 --> 00:20:56,359 Speaker 3: And knowing that, you know, I have enough single friends. 347 00:20:56,400 --> 00:20:58,399 Speaker 3: I have enough like childless friends. 348 00:20:58,520 --> 00:20:59,520 Speaker 1: I have people who. 349 00:20:59,320 --> 00:21:01,000 Speaker 3: Do have children, but not a lot of you know what, 350 00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:03,760 Speaker 3: I'm like that we can make a community and we 351 00:21:03,840 --> 00:21:04,880 Speaker 3: don't feel lonely. 352 00:21:05,960 --> 00:21:07,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, in that same way. 353 00:21:08,200 --> 00:21:11,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, And I mean that's it's also such a 354 00:21:11,520 --> 00:21:15,160 Speaker 2: larger conversation of pilots. 355 00:21:16,080 --> 00:21:18,239 Speaker 3: And we talked about that with the loneliness epidemic, Like 356 00:21:18,320 --> 00:21:20,280 Speaker 3: that's exactly like we were able to be like we 357 00:21:20,359 --> 00:21:23,840 Speaker 3: can suffice. Being single is no longer a threat for us. 358 00:21:24,320 --> 00:21:26,800 Speaker 2: Yes, And going back to the episode I mentioned that 359 00:21:26,880 --> 00:21:28,600 Speaker 2: I was going to do for this Monday Mini. I'm 360 00:21:28,600 --> 00:21:31,760 Speaker 2: proto nationalism. We've talked about that before with the Monday 361 00:21:31,760 --> 00:21:36,040 Speaker 2: many of yours about the South Korean birth rate. There 362 00:21:36,080 --> 00:21:39,639 Speaker 2: has been a lot of handwringing about that recently, and 363 00:21:39,680 --> 00:21:43,360 Speaker 2: not just the US but a bunch of countries, and 364 00:21:43,440 --> 00:21:47,120 Speaker 2: a lot of it was, you know, women, don't they 365 00:21:47,160 --> 00:21:51,080 Speaker 2: have job opportunities where they didn't. It wasn't it wasn't 366 00:21:51,119 --> 00:21:52,720 Speaker 2: painted in a bad light for a lot of people, 367 00:21:52,760 --> 00:21:54,879 Speaker 2: but they were saying, this is why it's happening, is 368 00:21:54,960 --> 00:22:00,320 Speaker 2: because a lot of these things weren't there before that 369 00:22:00,359 --> 00:22:02,639 Speaker 2: women are now able to pursue. 370 00:22:02,920 --> 00:22:07,200 Speaker 3: Right. It also studies that say things like being married 371 00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:11,240 Speaker 3: is actually detrimental women but helps men and like single 372 00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:15,400 Speaker 3: women outlive married women and do better for themselves. 373 00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:18,240 Speaker 1: Like the studies have shown, oh. 374 00:22:17,960 --> 00:22:21,119 Speaker 3: Like women lose themselves because they have to sacrifice so 375 00:22:21,200 --> 00:22:23,560 Speaker 3: much for a family or married but when they don't 376 00:22:23,600 --> 00:22:25,680 Speaker 3: have to do all that, they live just as well 377 00:22:25,720 --> 00:22:26,560 Speaker 3: as the married dude. 378 00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:28,480 Speaker 1: Yeah without the baggage. 379 00:22:29,000 --> 00:22:34,440 Speaker 2: Yeah. There was another quote I found from somebody talking 380 00:22:34,480 --> 00:22:40,600 Speaker 2: about this that was just I'm good. I don't need 381 00:22:40,640 --> 00:22:44,560 Speaker 2: the drama men bring into my life. I feel like, right, 382 00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:45,680 Speaker 2: I'm okay. 383 00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:49,240 Speaker 3: And honestly this goes for like queer relationships too, because 384 00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:53,119 Speaker 3: I've seen statistics where the abusive relationships within like specifically 385 00:22:53,119 --> 00:22:57,560 Speaker 3: like lesbian relationships and gay relationships have kind of like 386 00:22:57,760 --> 00:23:00,400 Speaker 3: it is now that they're actually researching it is higher 387 00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:04,760 Speaker 3: than you would expect. And so just being single even, yeah, 388 00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:05,879 Speaker 3: it's still better. 389 00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:13,479 Speaker 2: Yeah I know, I know, but yes, I see that too. 390 00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:17,000 Speaker 1: You're living that dream right now, like, yes, Anie. 391 00:23:16,920 --> 00:23:19,000 Speaker 2: No, That's why I'm excited to come back to the 392 00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:21,720 Speaker 2: article you were you sent to me that we'll mention 393 00:23:21,800 --> 00:23:24,560 Speaker 2: at the end. But it's been it's been a kind 394 00:23:24,600 --> 00:23:27,040 Speaker 2: of interesting journey for me from going to like to 395 00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:30,119 Speaker 2: hear the sad single lady he'll never get married, to 396 00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:38,240 Speaker 2: be like survive one. Well, welcome back to that in future. 397 00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:50,200 Speaker 2: We already were planning it. Another thing I stumbled upon 398 00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:53,760 Speaker 2: researching this is apparently another trick men are using is 399 00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:57,360 Speaker 2: putting in therapy in their profiles to indicate that they 400 00:23:57,440 --> 00:24:02,439 Speaker 2: know how to communicate and are emotionally intelligent. This was 401 00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:05,240 Speaker 2: in part because of questions about openness of discussing mental 402 00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:06,960 Speaker 2: health that we're on a lot of dating apps, so 403 00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:11,159 Speaker 2: if people of men answered yes, they saw about a 404 00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:16,120 Speaker 2: five hundred percent increase in potential matches. So you can 405 00:24:16,119 --> 00:24:18,680 Speaker 2: see the episode bar so low that bar is so loo. 406 00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:22,480 Speaker 2: They just want to know are you okay? And you 407 00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:24,840 Speaker 2: can see the episode we did with bridget about this 408 00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:27,240 Speaker 2: whole thing. We kind of talked about it with Jonah 409 00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:31,040 Speaker 2: Hill's controlling behavior of his ex and he was using 410 00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:34,800 Speaker 2: these therapy terms inaccurately, like these are my boundaries, which 411 00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:38,720 Speaker 2: that was not correct uses at all. But yeah, you 412 00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:41,000 Speaker 2: can listen to that episode to learn more about that. 413 00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:45,560 Speaker 2: Also to mention once more this there has been a 414 00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:48,640 Speaker 2: whole push for women who have said they don't want 415 00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:52,520 Speaker 2: or can't afford to have kids and some there's been 416 00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:55,800 Speaker 2: a really interesting conversation I'm seeing playing out about that 417 00:24:56,040 --> 00:24:58,399 Speaker 2: on dating apps where men are like, we can have 418 00:24:58,480 --> 00:25:04,160 Speaker 2: five kids and women are like, no, uh, we can't. 419 00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:07,960 Speaker 1: Were you talking who is we batman exactly? 420 00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:11,920 Speaker 2: But also just the reality of our economy right now 421 00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:13,840 Speaker 2: and then like the economies of a lot of the 422 00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:18,879 Speaker 2: world is no, we cannot do it, and you're talking 423 00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:20,640 Speaker 2: about me probably losing. 424 00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:25,760 Speaker 3: My job or having one thousand dollars as like like 425 00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:31,040 Speaker 3: your your incentive to children who know grow out of 426 00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:33,919 Speaker 3: clothes have to use diaper like what. 427 00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:38,840 Speaker 2: YEP called Trump accounts listeners. I had to go to 428 00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:41,879 Speaker 2: the White House official website for the first time to 429 00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:46,359 Speaker 2: learn about this, and it's gross. I was like, I 430 00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:53,159 Speaker 2: knew that you had really hijacked this website. But wow. Anyway, 431 00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:56,360 Speaker 2: all of this has perhaps led to something that yes, 432 00:25:56,440 --> 00:25:59,959 Speaker 2: Samantha turned me on too, that we're planning on returning 433 00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:03,280 Speaker 2: in the future, which is the recent viral Vogue article 434 00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:07,439 Speaker 2: by Chante Joseph is having a boyfriend embarrassing Now? And 435 00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:11,160 Speaker 2: it includes the quote why does having a boyfriend feel Republican? 436 00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:14,200 Speaker 1: Yes, so. 437 00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:20,879 Speaker 2: Look out for that. But yeah, I mean, this just 438 00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:23,480 Speaker 2: makes me so angry. I there's a part of me 439 00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:26,560 Speaker 2: that like because the comparison that kept coming up was 440 00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:32,240 Speaker 2: men lie about their heights on on dating apps because 441 00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:35,200 Speaker 2: it just screened you out, and they feel like if 442 00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:37,720 Speaker 2: I just if they just get to know me, I 443 00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:40,040 Speaker 2: have less of a problem with that. I still think 444 00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:44,159 Speaker 2: you shouldn't just lie, But this feels like a serious 445 00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:45,800 Speaker 2: This is. 446 00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:49,240 Speaker 3: All our rights and infringements and also your beliefs of 447 00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:50,520 Speaker 3: the value of me. 448 00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:55,520 Speaker 2: Yes, and also a lot of the profiles will say 449 00:26:55,520 --> 00:27:01,760 Speaker 2: specifically know and they'll lie and then they'll say something 450 00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:04,359 Speaker 2: like you just needed to get to know me, Like 451 00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:08,520 Speaker 2: it has nothing to do with how highly do you 452 00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:11,679 Speaker 2: have to think of yourself? Right where you think you 453 00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:14,800 Speaker 2: can enter a relationship like that and she'll get to 454 00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:18,760 Speaker 2: know me, and then I'm in the clear. She'll forget 455 00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:21,000 Speaker 2: about this whole live that started the whole thing. 456 00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:28,119 Speaker 3: I there's so many conversations that you have to wonder 457 00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:35,320 Speaker 3: why you would think this is just a minor like 458 00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:39,639 Speaker 3: once upon a time, once upon a time, maybe I 459 00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:42,399 Speaker 3: don't know, I don't know, I like maybe when I 460 00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:45,280 Speaker 3: was talking about Bush, which still is bad, don't get. 461 00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:47,400 Speaker 1: Me wrong, don't get me wrong. 462 00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:49,000 Speaker 2: But like. 463 00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:55,720 Speaker 3: Today's rhetoric is literally the extreme of whatever. Like we 464 00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:59,280 Speaker 3: have Nazi parties coming back, we have neo Nazis coming 465 00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:03,160 Speaker 3: in full wing. We have anti black people like literally 466 00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:06,040 Speaker 3: the Clue Klux Klan in different forms have been shown 467 00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:10,240 Speaker 3: back up, the Daughters of the Confederacy slash Moms for Liberty, 468 00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:12,880 Speaker 3: like all of these things are literally trying to take 469 00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:17,880 Speaker 3: away rights to the point that we are seeing queer 470 00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:20,800 Speaker 3: rights being taken away. When rights are being taken away, 471 00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:23,760 Speaker 3: that is when we were like, no, no, this is 472 00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:27,520 Speaker 3: not an extreme. This is a failure of humanity. This 473 00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:32,160 Speaker 3: is an access to atrocities and new things that we're 474 00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:34,359 Speaker 3: coming to see when we see people being locked up 475 00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:38,600 Speaker 3: for no damn reason and be dying, and facilities and 476 00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:42,600 Speaker 3: systems being shot because they're a different race, because like 477 00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:46,400 Speaker 3: all being profiled just because you might be a different race, 478 00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:51,000 Speaker 3: being told that using having food for your kids is 479 00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:54,720 Speaker 3: a privilege, yeah, and not a right, Like these are 480 00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:56,800 Speaker 3: the things that like, that's the problem that I'm like 481 00:28:56,920 --> 00:28:59,600 Speaker 3: when you trying to downplay that to being like it's 482 00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:02,920 Speaker 3: just the political it's just a viewpoint, it's just an opinion. 483 00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:07,640 Speaker 3: It's like, it's not what it's actually trying to actively 484 00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:13,160 Speaker 3: kill people, actively hurt people, Like this is the difference, 485 00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:17,720 Speaker 3: and if you can't see that, then that is a 486 00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:18,680 Speaker 3: failing in itself. 487 00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:25,360 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, And I mean the if you want to 488 00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:28,440 Speaker 2: be infuriated, you can look up some of the responses 489 00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:30,840 Speaker 2: these men have had when they've been found out and 490 00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:35,440 Speaker 2: they're just oh but also, uh, it was it was 491 00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:40,120 Speaker 2: kind of funny to read about how many dates hit 492 00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:43,640 Speaker 2: so quickly. Yeah, now where they're like seven minutes in, 493 00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:46,840 Speaker 2: got it, I do come. 494 00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:50,680 Speaker 3: Up very quickly because they say something real silly. I 495 00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:53,800 Speaker 3: remember way back when it was John McCain that was 496 00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:57,720 Speaker 3: running with Sarah Palin, right, yes, I remember when that 497 00:29:57,840 --> 00:30:00,120 Speaker 3: was going on, which was bad enough. And by the way, 498 00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:03,160 Speaker 3: as much as I disliked John McCain, love him compared 499 00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:04,000 Speaker 3: to everything else. 500 00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:08,520 Speaker 1: Can we just lido rip? Can we just say that? 501 00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:11,120 Speaker 3: But like I remember the girl went on a date 502 00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:13,720 Speaker 3: and they didn't even talk about politics. 503 00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:17,200 Speaker 1: This is before the whole like, let me know your politics. 504 00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:18,920 Speaker 1: That was when moderate was okay. 505 00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:23,200 Speaker 3: Moderate was seemingly okay because at the very least they're like, fine, 506 00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:27,400 Speaker 3: we'll give you, you know, queer rights, we'll give you 507 00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:31,240 Speaker 3: like twenty weeks and like some which is still not enough, 508 00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:33,600 Speaker 3: but like at the very least they weren't actively trying 509 00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:37,080 Speaker 3: to quick kill women or the queer community or people 510 00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:40,760 Speaker 3: of color kind of but like at least they were 511 00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:41,239 Speaker 3: hiding it. 512 00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:42,240 Speaker 1: We'll say it that way. 513 00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:44,479 Speaker 3: But he literally said to her, he was like, so, 514 00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:48,040 Speaker 3: how excited are you? And she was like excuse me, 515 00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:50,400 Speaker 3: and she was like how He's like, how is si 516 00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:53,840 Speaker 3: are you? I mean Sarah Palin, She's amazing. It's a 517 00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:57,160 Speaker 3: woman it's a woman. I'm like, that is again, this 518 00:30:57,200 --> 00:31:01,840 Speaker 3: is where we have to talk about your insane sexism 519 00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:05,800 Speaker 3: to believe that will quill right any type. 520 00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:10,720 Speaker 2: Of yes, perfect, yay, right, that's all I needed. 521 00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:15,959 Speaker 3: That is her intellectual abilities to understand it's a woman. Yay. 522 00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:19,040 Speaker 3: That's not Now I can go back to my lipstick 523 00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:24,120 Speaker 3: and having babies. Like I was like at that point, 524 00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:26,360 Speaker 3: it was that insulting, like to this, like you don't 525 00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:29,000 Speaker 3: say it, and now we're here. But it's always been 526 00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:32,040 Speaker 3: a little bit and now it's just come to the extremists. 527 00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:39,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, well it's incredibly condescending and and somebody included a 528 00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:42,400 Speaker 2: quote from Trevor Noah's book, but it was basically like 529 00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:49,120 Speaker 2: men want to they want to capture the quote exotic bird. 530 00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:53,080 Speaker 2: They want to they want to tame and subdue. There's 531 00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:57,200 Speaker 2: just a challenge exactly. So the conservative woman to them 532 00:31:57,320 --> 00:32:00,280 Speaker 2: is like she's already in the cage. But what we 533 00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:05,160 Speaker 2: want is the woman who doesn't agree, and you want 534 00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:09,240 Speaker 2: to tame her, change her mind, kill her spirit, kill 535 00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:14,400 Speaker 2: her spirit. And I was like, yeah, that unfortunately rings 536 00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:19,720 Speaker 2: pretty true to me. Yeah, so we will be back 537 00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:24,200 Speaker 2: to talk more about this. It's it's been a big 538 00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:26,120 Speaker 2: news item for a long time. Like I said, we've 539 00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:28,120 Speaker 2: been talking about this for a while, but I just 540 00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:32,000 Speaker 2: last week ran into it again. So if any listeners 541 00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:35,800 Speaker 2: have experienced this and you want to share your story, 542 00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:42,680 Speaker 2: I'm sorry, please write in what a Mess. 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