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Speaker 2: And welcome back to Coast to Coast George Norri with you.
Speaker 2: Originally from Switzerland, Heinz Guger found his home in Australia
Speaker 2: via the United States. Now He earned his degrees in
Speaker 2: Switzerland and the US and was president and CEO of
Speaker 2: a variety of different companies during his time here in
Speaker 2: the US. In two thousand and four, he decided to
Speaker 2: quit the corporate world and move his family to Australia.
Speaker 2: They settled in rural Queensland, where they owned one of
Speaker 2: Australia's largest prosimian fruit farms. Over the next fifteen years,
Speaker 2: he transformed that traditionally chemically farmed land into a thriving,
Speaker 2: holistic in biodynamic farm using subtle energy techniques. Dowsing and Radionics.
Speaker 2: Hines is a dowsing and radionics practitioner and teacher and
Speaker 2: is dedicated to empowering people to take back their own
Speaker 2: power back Here he is on Coast to Coast. Mine's welcome.
Speaker 2: Fascinating But afternoon, George and glad.
Speaker 3: To be on the show.
Speaker 2: Good to have you with us too, So tell me
Speaker 2: about the corporate world you worked in here in the
Speaker 2: US and then you just gave it all up.
Speaker 3: Yeah. It was you know when the kids. We had
Speaker 3: two kids in the state, so our girl was born
Speaker 3: in New Jersey and oustn in South Carolina, and when
Speaker 3: there were five and nine, it was the time to say,
Speaker 3: you know, we had the opportunity to move to Australia
Speaker 3: and work on a Persimon farm, and that's what we
Speaker 3: decided to leave, you know, before they get older. And
Speaker 3: you know the former guest that was talking a lot
Speaker 3: about oboriginal Australians. Yeah, and I have to disappoint you
Speaker 3: don't have the Australian accent here. It's like a mix
Speaker 3: of between Swiss and American and Australian accent.
Speaker 2: You sound like our friend Eric von Donakan.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know, and I think we have that rough,
Speaker 3: rough accent always coming around because of the Swiss German background.
Speaker 2: What made you decide to go into farming?
Speaker 3: We were always when we were kids. We grew up
Speaker 3: on the farm and when the opportunity came up. We
Speaker 3: know these people and they said we're want to sell it,
Speaker 3: says why not? I mean it's a lifestyle change and
Speaker 3: away from corporate. But you know, farming is not just
Speaker 3: the beautiful sunshine, and you know, go out there once able,
Speaker 3: it's a very stressful job. It's twenty four hours a
Speaker 3: day for people who are in farming, they know that,
Speaker 3: and you're always you know, out in the weather, and
Speaker 3: you're very dictates your profits based the idea and.
Speaker 2: Heines, how did you make the transition as a farmer
Speaker 2: to start writing books about manifestation and holistics and dowsing.
Speaker 2: How did that that all happen?
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a little bit. I never thought I would
Speaker 3: actually write a book about you know, manifestation and dowsing.
Speaker 3: But it started off on the farm. And you know,
Speaker 3: everybody knows working with supplements, so you know, the fertilizer
Speaker 3: going to the onto the plants, and a lot of
Speaker 3: people also know we use biology to actually stimulate the soil,
Speaker 3: but not a lot of people knew about the energetic
Speaker 3: side of it. And so it started off when you know,
Speaker 3: and still still people are aware and they know the
Speaker 3: water dowsing, so people they know the douses out there,
Speaker 3: they're finding water using these tools, and that's how I
Speaker 3: got introduced to it, and it just worked for me.
Speaker 3: So I was able to pick up these dousing tools
Speaker 3: and seeing results. And the radionics came into place when
Speaker 3: we had some issues doing the seas and on the persimens.
Speaker 3: We have little loric heats that cause the little tarrots
Speaker 3: during the day and they can destroy an orchard in
Speaker 3: two days because they just nibble on the fruit. And
Speaker 3: in the night we have that they really love the fruit.
Speaker 3: So the old way of farming was, you know, you
Speaker 3: just go up there and get rid of them. And
Speaker 3: I met my mentor at that time, Hugh Lobel, and
Speaker 3: he said, you know, walk into radionics. And I never
Speaker 3: heard of radionics before, but I got into it, and
Speaker 3: I did a lot of mistakes during that period of
Speaker 3: time as well, but the results started to show that,
Speaker 3: oh this is actually working. These subtle energy devices are working.
Speaker 3: And as a farmer, you know, I always tried everything
Speaker 3: and if it works, and then you know, I don't
Speaker 3: question it and I have results. If it doesn't work,
Speaker 3: you look for something else.
Speaker 2: Do you wish you would have learned about these techniques
Speaker 2: earlier in your life or do you think you're happy
Speaker 2: with the timing that had occurred.
Speaker 3: I think if I would have known that before, or
Speaker 3: if everybody would have known that there's actually this subtle
Speaker 3: energy out there and how you can work with that,
Speaker 3: that the world would be a better place. I mean,
Speaker 3: we're always introduced to that. We're always in that field,
Speaker 3: you know. I always look with an example when we
Speaker 3: were teenagers and we said, look we really Saturday night,
Speaker 3: you know, we put the good jeans on, we got
Speaker 3: the head on, put the nice perfume on. We went
Speaker 3: out there and we all said, ladies, watch out. You know,
Speaker 3: the boys are on.
Speaker 2: The lost, on the loose, right, And we tried so.
Speaker 3: Hard and nothing happens. And then you know, next weekend
Speaker 3: we just say, no, what forget them. We just have
Speaker 3: some fun, play some cards, and there were anywhere. So
Speaker 3: this was basically we're already doing it. We already did it.
Speaker 3: Everybody does it. We're just not aware of it. How
Speaker 3: to harness and how to work with these energies.
Speaker 2: Heinz give us your definition of manifestation.
Speaker 3: Well, money station is we're in that field twenty four
Speaker 3: hours a day and it never stops. So when we
Speaker 3: look what's what's happening in the brain. We have our
Speaker 3: left brain and we have a right brain, and that
Speaker 3: also when we use radonics, We also use a scale device,
Speaker 3: which is basically a device Tesla developed, and this manifestation
Speaker 3: is always happening. Now what we can do, This manifestation
Speaker 3: works either good or bad. So whatever we broadcasting out
Speaker 3: into our field and our scale field will attract. So
Speaker 3: now that that can be tough to you. And I
Speaker 3: had a lot of mistakes as well, because you know,
Speaker 3: on the farm sometimes you get up in the morning,
Speaker 3: you had a beautiful day, you work to the shed
Speaker 3: and that the flat tire is in the tractor, and
Speaker 3: so the first thing you do, you know, you take
Speaker 3: it a few times and use some funny words, and
Speaker 3: that's basically now I'm placing my order into the universe.
Speaker 3: And then you know, the next thing is what else
Speaker 3: can go wrong? And guess what everything else will go
Speaker 3: wrong as well. Then this didn't work. That didn't work.
Speaker 3: That didn't work. So manifestation is you're you can't really
Speaker 3: measure that, but that's your intent in the fild, what
Speaker 3: you want to see to occur.
Speaker 2: And heinz it doesn't work for everybody.
Speaker 3: Why not, well, because they always changed the order. And
Speaker 3: I think that's the biggest thing. That's what I'm always
Speaker 3: telling people. If you have an intent. The first thing
Speaker 3: is you have to be very very clear how you're
Speaker 3: actually going to formulate an intent or a manifestation, and
Speaker 3: you know and also how to formulate it. If you
Speaker 3: just say, for example, I want money, that will not
Speaker 3: come to you because the want is already like you're
Speaker 3: in a lack of desire, you don't have. And then
Speaker 3: it's also they change your order select they're really good
Speaker 3: at manifestation. And when you then always look at it,
Speaker 3: when you always observe your manifestation, you change the outcome.
Speaker 3: So compare it when you have a pizza. When you
Speaker 3: go to the pizza shop and you order a pizza,
Speaker 3: and you're going to tell the guy behind the counterext
Speaker 3: at the size of the pizza, you know what you
Speaker 3: like on it, how big it is, and then you
Speaker 3: start changing the orders. Or you might change it once
Speaker 3: and because you want to put the oliff back on,
Speaker 3: or then you change it the second time you want
Speaker 3: to change another input, and after three times the guy
Speaker 3: behind the counterma tell you know, you come back when
Speaker 3: you know what you want.
Speaker 2: So yeah, or you'll dump the pizza on your head or.
Speaker 3: Something that's it. You woudn't even get it because you
Speaker 3: know you changed you order too many times. So the
Speaker 3: idea when you manifest, and that's the it can't manifest
Speaker 3: when you change the orders all the time. And that's
Speaker 3: just quantum physics tels Us. If you look at it,
Speaker 3: it's only observing it. You're changing it. So and it
Speaker 3: happens too many people where you know you really desired
Speaker 3: something in your life and then you you you really
Speaker 3: want that until you until you don't go of it,
Speaker 3: it will not come to you.
Speaker 2: How do you know how to structure your intent to
Speaker 2: bring these results positively?
Speaker 3: Right? So, over the years doing what we did or
Speaker 3: doing the courses when I was teaching there, we have
Speaker 3: like a three four step program. So the first step
Speaker 3: is and this is not AI written, you have to
Speaker 3: do this. This is your tent. This is where you
Speaker 3: has to sit down, relax and actually think what you
Speaker 3: really desire. And so the first paragraph is always we
Speaker 3: stop what put interfere And that doesn't come from fear.
Speaker 3: This is not fear based. Stop. So you know, when
Speaker 3: you go onto a building site, what you do is,
Speaker 3: you know, you make sure that there's no water going
Speaker 3: through the site. The road is may be diverorded so
Speaker 3: that's just common sense what put interfere. And so that's
Speaker 3: the first PARAGRAPHY we write and you have to write
Speaker 3: it down because if you just put it out in
Speaker 3: the field, it's not anchor dick and it's very fluid.
Speaker 3: So the best way is you write them. We write
Speaker 3: them on a piece of paper. The second one is
Speaker 3: the way it is, so that doesn't mean the way
Speaker 3: it is or shot or cold, is actually the way
Speaker 3: you see it finished, a way you see it to
Speaker 3: see the finished product. And the third step is you
Speaker 3: put the emotions onto the piece of paper. This is
Speaker 3: how you feel when you actually achieve that. And then
Speaker 3: the fourth one, and I think that's I always stress that,
Speaker 3: and I think that's very important that you it's a
Speaker 3: safety switch that you write this or something better for
Speaker 3: the benefit of pone detriment of non. But this does
Speaker 3: you don't want to attract money because you have repairs
Speaker 3: or you're not looking for a certain outcome, and you're
Speaker 3: harming somebody doing that process. So then you write this
Speaker 3: or something better for the benefit of phone detriment of none.
Speaker 3: Then you're not harming anybody, and the order is in
Speaker 3: the universe, it's placed. And then you just have to
Speaker 3: relax and you know, wait until the pipa comes to
Speaker 3: you mine.
Speaker 2: Let's talk about two different people. Let's talk about the
Speaker 2: successful person and the unsuccess And by that I mean
Speaker 2: with the unsuccessful person, Let's assume they can't keep a job,
Speaker 2: they can't make money, they can't have a relationship with somebody,
Speaker 2: They're down and out on their life and their luck.
Speaker 2: What are they doing wrong? In your opinion, it's.
Speaker 3: Never ever one thing. You know, there are people always
Speaker 3: that it must be this. You know, it's like there's always, uh,
Speaker 3: just one component which is important, but that's usually a
Speaker 3: whole variety of different things which don't work together. And
Speaker 3: what we learned on the farm looking at balance in
Speaker 3: the soil and balance in the trees, we also would
Speaker 3: look a balance in a person. So when you have
Speaker 3: a balance, is you know, the emotional balance, the physical balance,
Speaker 3: that there's spiritual balance and the mental balance, and sometimes
Speaker 3: we also look at the soul. And you know, there
Speaker 3: are people out there they're really they're they're top fit,
Speaker 3: they're in the gym all the time, they eat the
Speaker 3: right thood, but mentally they're just on the right path,
Speaker 3: and they always think I'm a poor boy, I don't
Speaker 3: deserve this and it can't manifest. And the other hand
Speaker 3: is when you have very very spiritual people and they're
Speaker 3: way up there in the spiritual realm, but they don't
Speaker 3: come into the third dimension and do the job. So
Speaker 3: that's not just want to say this is the key.
Speaker 3: It's a balance of all the different inputs. So if
Speaker 3: it's like a car, then you have a car with
Speaker 3: four tires and all four tires are pumped properly, then
Speaker 3: it flows better. So if you have your emotional, physical, mental,
Speaker 3: and spiritual body in balance, you attract that better because
Speaker 3: you're in balance with all the realms and not just
Speaker 3: with one. You know, you don't want to have one
Speaker 3: higher than the other one because that that scale will
Speaker 3: then shift to the other side.
Speaker 2: Now, the person who is doing things the correct way
Speaker 2: the right way, are they doing it with or without ego?
Speaker 3: Ego is in important in that case that you know
Speaker 3: you you can't get riddle of one hundred percent. You
Speaker 3: don't want to shut that down. There's always that little
Speaker 3: bit there. But the more ego driven you are, the
Speaker 3: more you want to achieve that, the less you're going
Speaker 3: to get it. So that means you know, you're still
Speaker 3: going to have a plan. You still got an idea,
Speaker 3: but you let go. So we had a lot of
Speaker 3: times when I work with farmers as well. You know,
Speaker 3: they look at the fruit, they look at the cattle,
Speaker 3: and that they start calculating from the ego side. You know,
Speaker 3: this is the business, this is the yield, this is
Speaker 3: how much I can make money, and they're looking just
Speaker 3: at the profit side. That's just ego driven. But when
Speaker 3: we turn it around and say, okay, start looking at
Speaker 3: how can I help the soil, how can I help
Speaker 3: the cattle? And you come from passion law, then the
Speaker 3: successful follow so you almost you still run a business,
Speaker 3: of course, but you're actually looking at more how can
Speaker 3: I support the soil and the animals to then receive
Speaker 3: the outcome.
Speaker 2: I design well with Heinz Gugar. His website is linked
Speaker 2: up at coast tocoastdam dot com. The book we're talking
Speaker 2: about is there to manifest Hen have you ever used
Speaker 2: manifestation in your dream state? And by that I mean
Speaker 2: before you go to bed, you think about something and
Speaker 2: then you let your dreams take over and get these
Speaker 2: things done for you.
Speaker 3: Yep, And I think everybody probably does that. But the
Speaker 3: conscious is unconsciously, you know, interacting with them. But you
Speaker 3: have to get out of the way. So if you
Speaker 3: actually don't want to control how it's going to come
Speaker 3: to you, then you're putting a blockage onto that outcomes
Speaker 3: or view. Get into into a dream state and you
Speaker 3: see the product working. Let source get to that point,
Speaker 3: you know. So this is not like a machine where
Speaker 3: you turn it on and you get an output at
Speaker 3: the end. You don't control that part. It's when you
Speaker 3: in that dream state. You just let it happen them
Speaker 3: And this is very very powerful as well. But again
Speaker 3: make sure this is for the benefit of one degiment
Speaker 3: of non so you're not harming anybody doing that process.
Speaker 2: Hines, Can you give us an example of how somebody
Speaker 2: has used manifestation to change their life.
Speaker 3: We had one this one lady. She she had to
Speaker 3: have a hip surgery and she was very afraid to
Speaker 3: go there because, you know, of the doctors and the hospital.
Speaker 3: She really didn't like that that whole process of having
Speaker 3: you know, knocked out full even she has to surgery.
Speaker 3: So what we used first is she went in all
Speaker 3: these special surgeons because of that hip. And then what
Speaker 3: we did we used some dowsing tools to actually find
Speaker 3: which one is the most qualified for her operation, and
Speaker 3: then we clear that whole did the energy of the surgery,
Speaker 3: and you know, when she comes out of surgery, the
Speaker 3: waking up state and so doing that process, she said
Speaker 3: this probably was her best experience ever. It's unds a
Speaker 3: little bit funny for a surgery, but she had that
Speaker 3: and now she can walk again after like twenty five years.
Speaker 3: So because we worked on the sudden side as well,
Speaker 3: she was able then to walk again now and actually
Speaker 3: go for a swim that she couldn't do for twenty
Speaker 3: five years.
Speaker 2: Wow. Would you call that a miracle? Lines, I think.
Speaker 3: We worked with miracles every day, and for us, this
Speaker 3: is just normally it's what we expect and this is
Speaker 3: when you used to that, this is what what just
Speaker 3: happened every day for us.
Speaker 2: It is truly remarkable. And the ancients practice manifestation as well.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, they knew that already. I mean, we're
Speaker 3: having tools now which we you know, we don't really need,
Speaker 3: but we're not that evolved anymore. But way back in
Speaker 3: the ancient times, they were living in that state and
Speaker 3: they were able to hold these frequency Because what is
Speaker 3: important on certain occasions. Is also when you have an intent,
Speaker 3: when you write that down, that is anchored. Now, if
Speaker 3: you can hold that intent for a half an hour
Speaker 3: without you know, going up and down, then that will manifest.
Speaker 3: But usually after ten seconds of fifteen seconds, you know,
Speaker 3: your mind bombers. Often he goes what's for luncheon? What's
Speaker 3: for dinner? So that's why we can use writing it down,
Speaker 3: and we use tools basically outsourced that. But the ancient
Speaker 3: didn't have that. But they also didn't have to pay
Speaker 3: bills like we do. We're living a society of which
Speaker 3: we have now.
Speaker 2: All that's true too. We're stuck with all kinds of
Speaker 2: things like that, aren't we.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's part of the They call it your evolution. Right.
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