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Speaker 1: Welcome Bird Gang. On today's show, what History tells us

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Speaker 1: about drafting a quarterback high in the first round, like

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Speaker 1: really high. Mike Jarecki continues to count down his top

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Speaker 1: fifty draft suspects will spotlight numbers thirty one to forty.

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Speaker 1: But first, Bird Gang, should we be worried? It's Cardinals

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Speaker 1: Cover two, Episode four thirteen, and it starts now. Welcome

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Speaker 1: to Cardinals Cover two with Craig Grigolu and Mike Jarecki.

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Speaker 1: Cardinals dot Com, Slash Podcasts. Murray rolls to the right,

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Speaker 1: this was interesting and something that caused quite the stir

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Speaker 1: among the fan base. A very innocent tweet to promote

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Speaker 1: an upcoming golf tournament. The tweet quote one week away

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Speaker 1: can't wait to see you all soon. Two things MJ

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Speaker 1: about the tweet, One the account from which it originated,

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Speaker 1: and two the picture attached to the tweets the account

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Speaker 1: MJ the Arians Foundation, an account I follow because while

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Speaker 1: I like BA, I like what he and his family

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Speaker 1: are all about. The picture though, Larry Fitzgerald swinging a

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Speaker 1: golf club. Help me out here, MJ, because you know

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Speaker 1: what everyone did, one plus one equals two, or in

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Speaker 1: this case, Aryans plus golf in Tampa equals fits signing

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Speaker 1: with the Buccaneers. Well, I'm sure it's more about going

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Speaker 1: there and obviously paying respect to the Aryans Foundation. You know,

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Speaker 1: Larry has a lot of respect for BA and his

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Speaker 1: I haven't talked to him about this, but listen, Larry

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Speaker 1: Fitzgerald is a free agent, and you know, we haven't

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Speaker 1: see wake up one morning and find out. But he

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Speaker 1: is a free agent. And you know, if you go

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Speaker 1: back to that podcast, the Ripping podcast he was on.

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Speaker 1: The one thing that sticks out when I went back

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Speaker 1: you could just see how excited they were. So I

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Speaker 1: think that's the only thing missing in his career. I

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Speaker 1: still think that, you know, the Cardinals are an option

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Speaker 1: if he decides to retire, but you know, I don't

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Speaker 1: want to speculate or guests, but I just don't think

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Speaker 1: point he's got to figure out the AID does he

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Speaker 1: and let's be honest, you look at a lot of

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Speaker 1: But at the same time, though, if he's chasing a

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Speaker 1: he decides that he's going to retire. I'm gonna go

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Speaker 1: with what I've said from the get go. It's either

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Speaker 1: I never would have expected, you know, and I'm at

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Speaker 1: Those two are attached at the hip. Now, the Coyotes

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Speaker 1: And here we are in April, the middle of April.

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Speaker 1: But again, I think I'll speak for a lot of

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Speaker 1: this edition of Cardinals Covered two presented by Hyunday, proud

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Speaker 1: week MJ's Top fifty Draft prospects. If you missed Prospects

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Speaker 1: forty one to fifty, invite you to go back into

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Speaker 1: for me specifically MJ, as I said, you do all

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Speaker 1: twelve games at airs in a rose overall. But he's

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Speaker 1: also a guy that can return kicks and punts five eleven,

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Speaker 1: one eighty nine. His comparison is Harry Douglas according to

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Speaker 1: the land zerline, I know the Cardinals have sent some

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Speaker 1: scouts on the road, and I noticed that one of

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Speaker 1: the times that during the Florida workout there was a

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Speaker 1: Cardinal representative there. Again, he can have x amount of

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Speaker 1: scouts show up with these workouts per team slot talent

437
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Speaker 1: who completes bigger than his listit size. He has battled

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Speaker 1: injuries which helped cap his production until twenty twenty. Again,

439
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Speaker 1: only one season of high level production and route speed

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Speaker 1: looks turned down at times. So it's a work in progress.

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Speaker 1: But he's got the physical attributes to give you a

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Speaker 1: return game and I think he's definitely a second round

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Speaker 1: guy or a second day guy. It was interesting on

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Speaker 1: Tony because, as again we talk about all the different

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Speaker 1: mock drafts, but Cynthia Freeland, NFL Network analytics expert, had

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Speaker 1: listed the top wide receivers and their best team fits

447
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Speaker 1: based off of the analytics and checking in in that

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Speaker 1: top five were the combination of Kadarius Tony and the

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Speaker 1: Cardinals and slot receiver. Yes, but the third fastest player

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Speaker 1: in the SEC with the ball in his hands used,

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Speaker 1: as she wrote, used a lot in the run game,

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Speaker 1: which would be interesting. Now, maybe you've got a dual

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Speaker 1: threat here as far as out of the backfield and

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Speaker 1: in the slot forced twenty miss tackles fifth most last

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Speaker 1: year per the Pro Football Focus and then after the

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Speaker 1: catch four hundred and seventy seven yards which was forced

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Speaker 1: best in the SEC. Another mock draft, and this was

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Speaker 1: analytics based, so and she looks at it differently. It's

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Speaker 1: it's a fascinating look at how she looks at the game.

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Speaker 1: And we're getting more and more into the analytics talk.

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Speaker 1: But I thought it was interesting best team fits for

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Speaker 1: top wide receivers Cardinals and Canarius Tony. Now he opted

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Speaker 1: out of the Gators bull game and accepted an invitation

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Speaker 1: to the Senior boat. So clearly the Cardinals had there

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Speaker 1: some of their scouts and could have been a couple

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Speaker 1: of position coaches there. But again, the Cardinals need a returner.

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Speaker 1: They need somebody if Chase Havans is going to be

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Speaker 1: your your featured back or if they share carry's with

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Speaker 1: a one two punch. You know, Christian Kirk, he's had

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Speaker 1: some injuries, he dealt with COVID last year. I mean

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Speaker 1: he does he still get a chance return punts. But

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Speaker 1: you look at ja Jalen Waddle and you look at

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Speaker 1: Tony Here, they bring you a lot more versatility. Not

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Speaker 1: only can they play on special teams, but they can

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Speaker 1: return the return game. And that's something I think the

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Speaker 1: Cardinals have been missing the last couple of years. I'm

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Speaker 1: sure you know they got to decide who the fourth

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Speaker 1: and fifth receiver are, the fourth and fifth corner, who's

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Speaker 1: going to be on the field. But when I look

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Speaker 1: at Waddle in Tony Here, I mean, these guys can

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Speaker 1: day one come in here and be your punt return

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Speaker 1: and kick return and we haven't really seen that, And

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Speaker 1: they've tried different guys but I think that's an area

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Speaker 1: where they would like to improve. Now you're not going

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Speaker 1: to draft the guy just for that, but the fact

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Speaker 1: that they can do more position flexibility, I think it

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Speaker 1: will go a long way. And that's where the Cardinals

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Speaker 1: were hoping Andy Isabella would be able to contribute more

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Speaker 1: so and it just hasn't worked, especially in the return game.

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Speaker 1: Are we talked about the run of wide receivers kud

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Speaker 1: Arius Tony checking in number thirty five. Another wide out

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Speaker 1: at number thirty four, Nico Collins out of mission again,

493
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Speaker 1: unlike Tony and Eskridge, a much bigger wide out six

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Speaker 1: four two fifteen, but still fast four four three speed

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Speaker 1: at his pro day. The one question mark though, is

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Speaker 1: he opted out this past season, so there's no tape

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Speaker 1: on what he did on the field in twenty twenty.

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Speaker 1: He did accept an invitation to the Senior Bowl. I

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Speaker 1: agree with his arms are His arms are thirty four

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Speaker 1: in a quarter, his hands are nine to three. This

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Speaker 1: is interesting. And now when we say comps, I always

502
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Speaker 1: think I want to use the word traits because we're

503
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Speaker 1: not saying that that this guy is going to be

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Speaker 1: the same player, but they have the same traits and

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Speaker 1: this guy. When I mentioned his name, Coren land zerline

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Speaker 1: the comps to kill Harry, okay, but physical traits what

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Speaker 1: they're two fifteen the arms, you know, we listen nikkill

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Speaker 1: Harry had an outstanding college career. We know he put

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Speaker 1: up numbers. You know, he was named Michigan's Offensive Player

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Speaker 1: of the Year in twenty nineteen. To lend the big

511
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Speaker 1: ten an average per catch at nineteen point seven. He

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Speaker 1: opted out, as you point out, but he did go

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Speaker 1: to the Senior Bowl. He was invited to the Senior Bowl.

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Speaker 1: He possesses quality speed for such a big target, and

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Speaker 1: I think we could say that about Nick Harry again.

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Speaker 1: Hopefully he can get his curator turned around. I liked

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Speaker 1: what he did in college, but that's the comp Nico Collins,

518
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Speaker 1: and I think it's because of the size. And again

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Speaker 1: they're not saying they're going to be the same player.

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Speaker 1: They say they have the same traits. All right, So

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Speaker 1: three straight wide receivers we have discussed. Let's go back

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Speaker 1: now to the defensive side and checking in at number

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Speaker 1: thirty three. Again, this is our countdown top fifty draft

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Speaker 1: prospects as determined by Mike Direct. He at number thirty

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Speaker 1: three a free safety out of Central Florida. Richie Grant

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Speaker 1: three time first team All Conference. He's got good size

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Speaker 1: for a safety MJ six foot, one hundred and ninety

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Speaker 1: four pounds. Yeah, and he's got good arms. I mean

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Speaker 1: in this you know you're not going to see a

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Speaker 1: lot of safeties get drafted in the first round, So

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Speaker 1: I would think Richie Grant. And he really found himself

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Speaker 1: on NFL Scout's radar as a sophomore when he tied

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Speaker 1: the third in the FBS with six interceptions. He was

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Speaker 1: first team All American Conference that year, including led ucf

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Speaker 1: in AE hundred and nine tackles, so you look at it.

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Speaker 1: He was a named finalist for the Jim Thorpe Award

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Speaker 1: as one of the top defense that he invited. He

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Speaker 1: was accepted in an invitation to the Senior Bowl. So

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Speaker 1: another guy that can do a couple of different things,

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Speaker 1: but you know his compass Tedrick Thompson. Grant offers versustility

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Speaker 1: to play deep or down safety and has decent man

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Speaker 1: cover skills against tight ends. He is best at a

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Speaker 1: high safety where he has an overview of the entire field.

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Speaker 1: He can use his key to on quarterbacks when it

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Speaker 1: comes to ball hockey, So I do think he's going

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Speaker 1: to be a second day pick, and just because you're

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Speaker 1: not going to see a lot of safeties drafted early

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Speaker 1: in the first round or at least in general. But

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Speaker 1: I think he's shown it over a period of time

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Speaker 1: and the fact that he was on Scout's radar as

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Speaker 1: a sophomore. Now he's a red shirt. So he's put

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Speaker 1: his time in two other comps just for cardinal perspectives

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Speaker 1: and based off what he did in college, Tyron Matthew

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Speaker 1: and Buddha Baker. Just because in reading about Grant, he's

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Speaker 1: all over the field. I mean he's playing deep safety,

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Speaker 1: he's playing close to the line of scrimmage, he's playing

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Speaker 1: in the box, he's covering slot receivers. So one of

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Speaker 1: those players, as you said, can do a little bit

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Speaker 1: of everything, and we love the versatility and as we

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Speaker 1: know with Isaiah Simmons, you get to be able to

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Speaker 1: do a lot of different things in this day and age,

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Speaker 1: because defenses are asked to do a lot given the

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Speaker 1: offenses that they're asked to cover. That you can't pigeonhole

564
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Speaker 1: guys anymore is becoming more and more rare in which

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Speaker 1: you're only asked to do one thing. But based off

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Speaker 1: my reading, Richie Grant quote plays all over the field,

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Speaker 1: which for Cardinal fans, that's Buddha Baker, that's Tyron Matthew. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he had ten interceptions in his last thirty four games,

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Speaker 1: five career forced fumbles. Now, according to Lanzerlan, this is interesting.

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Speaker 1: As a veteran of that safety, he needed to do

571
00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:05,760
Speaker 1: a better job of making everyone was on the same page.

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00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:08,240
Speaker 1: There were so many busts from game to game out

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Speaker 1: of that unit. But I like his ball talent, his

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Speaker 1: overall field toughness. He'll have a spot in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: Very good player as far as what you're asking for

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Speaker 1: a safety. So keep that name in mind, especially on

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Speaker 1: Day two. All right, getting close to the end here

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Speaker 1: at number thirty two, the first offensive lineman in this

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Speaker 1: ten draft prospect grouping that we're talking about here on

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Speaker 1: this edition to Cardinals covered two presented by Hunday Proud

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Speaker 1: partner of the Arizona Cardinals, Jackson Carmen out of Clemson

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Speaker 1: six six three thirty five. And all you really need

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Speaker 1: to know is if you like Trevor Lawrence, then you

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Speaker 1: can thank Jackson Carmen because he was Lawrence's blind side protector.

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00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:56,880
Speaker 1: He kept arguably or not arguably, the presumptive number one

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Speaker 1: overall pick in this year's draft, Trevor Lawrence. He kept upright,

587
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Speaker 1: and that is certainly important when you're looking for an

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Speaker 1: offensive tackle. Yeah, six five, three seventeen. Now, you know,

589
00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:11,920
Speaker 1: he was a finalist for both the Anthony Munius National

590
00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:15,720
Speaker 1: Offensive Player Your War by the USA today. You're right.

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Speaker 1: They came in there and he started playing left tackle.

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Speaker 1: You know, he had all ACC honors for his play

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Speaker 1: gardened third team there. The thing is that they're also

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Speaker 1: saying Carmen may have the offer emergency tackle value at

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00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:33,840
Speaker 1: the next level, but better suited possibly inside. Regardless of

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00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:36,360
Speaker 1: the position, he needs to improve his placement and sustain

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Speaker 1: his hands to help and stay contacted, stay connected against

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Speaker 1: the blockers. So again that that's a big guy to

599
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Speaker 1: go inside, But the fact is that he has left

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Speaker 1: tackle experience. Some teams maybe look at him as a

601
00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:50,959
Speaker 1: right tackle, but he is listed as an offensive tackle

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00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:54,600
Speaker 1: and an offensive guard from Clemson. It's kind of like

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Speaker 1: Elijah Vera Tucker out of USC. Many people peg him

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Speaker 1: as a guard, but there's a segment out there of

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00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:03,800
Speaker 1: scouts that do think he could play tackle as well?

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Speaker 1: I guess it's you know what you're looking for, and

607
00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:09,520
Speaker 1: then where do you believe a player like that fits

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Speaker 1: regardless of size. Yes, I understand when you're six six,

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00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:16,560
Speaker 1: three hundred plus pounds, it's a little difference to see

610
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Speaker 1: someone that size playing inside as opposed to outside. But

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Speaker 1: wherever you're going to play your best and fit the

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Speaker 1: best along that offensive line. All right. The last player here,

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Speaker 1: it's a running back, Travis Atn at A Clemson. So

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Speaker 1: if you're talking about, you know, your top thirty two,

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Speaker 1: that's the first round. We're having our first running back

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Speaker 1: in the first round. Only one running back off the

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Speaker 1: board in the first round. But Atn has done everything.

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Speaker 1: He's the ACC's all time career rushing rushing touchdown, total,

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Speaker 1: touchdown and yards from scrimmage leader, a two time consensus

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Speaker 1: All American. If you like Travis Atn, there's a lot

621
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Speaker 1: to like. You give have his Etn a lot of card.

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00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:03,200
Speaker 1: He went back for his senior year. He could have

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Speaker 1: come out and you know running backs, I mean he

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00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:08,200
Speaker 1: rushed Newly for fifty four hundred yards in his final

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Speaker 1: two seasons in high school. As you pointed, up acc

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Speaker 1: career mark almost five thousand yards five ten, two fifteen.

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Speaker 1: You know, I'm curious to see what he weighed during

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Speaker 1: the season and what he was is this pro day

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Speaker 1: because the Cardinals, you know, they want somebody that's going

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Speaker 1: to be like two hundred and eighteen two hundred and

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Speaker 1: twenty pounds to compliment a guy like Chase Edmons. But

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Speaker 1: you know, a guy can do a lot of different things.

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Speaker 1: The funny thing is, we haven't heard this name in

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Speaker 1: a while, and I would sign up for it the

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00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:42,080
Speaker 1: comp Garrison hearst okay, that certainly would work. Garrison Hurst

636
00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:45,560
Speaker 1: obviously he played with the Arizona Cardinals. But you know

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00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:49,959
Speaker 1: he's he can bounce outside, he can run between the tackles.

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00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:53,400
Speaker 1: He's got great balance overall, avoiding being tackled early in

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Speaker 1: the process. His average runs and in size were long strides.

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Speaker 1: He does have home run speed in the open field.

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00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:06,120
Speaker 1: His tools are creating yards standout during games at when

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00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:09,640
Speaker 1: he was patient and he could see that he saw

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Speaker 1: a hole and he was patient enough where he started

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Speaker 1: hitting and try to make the big play. So he's

645
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Speaker 1: very capable of excellent on all three downs. He could

646
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Speaker 1: put him in the paint throughout his career, seventy eight

647
00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:23,200
Speaker 1: total touchdowns in five years. So in others when you

648
00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:25,640
Speaker 1: get down to the goal line, he's a guy. He's

649
00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:30,719
Speaker 1: had sixteen career had sixteen career touchdowns of forty four

650
00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:35,960
Speaker 1: plus yards, so he's excellent reading, cut timing. You know,

651
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Speaker 1: these guys get devalue. We only had one running back

652
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Speaker 1: on the first round last year, and now I was

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Speaker 1: the number thirty two overall. I do think he's going

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Speaker 1: to be a first round pick right now. I got

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Speaker 1: him at thirty one. I do think Harris could be

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Speaker 1: a first round pick, but I don't think those teams

657
00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:53,200
Speaker 1: are going to do it until we get to the

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Speaker 1: twenties twenty five to thirty two, and that could be

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Speaker 1: the Cardinals trading down. But I just don't think there's

660
00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:01,560
Speaker 1: too many other players to quarterbacks are going to drive

661
00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:03,839
Speaker 1: some other position players down. But I do think we'll

662
00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:07,120
Speaker 1: have two running backs compared to maybe a year ago. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think at number sixteen, drafting aid running back is

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Speaker 1: too high for me, even if you love him, but

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Speaker 1: at sixteen you want value, and I just don't know,

666
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Speaker 1: especially how teams value running backs these days, unless you're

667
00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:24,439
Speaker 1: going to turn the offense all on the running back

668
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Speaker 1: and focus on him. I just don't see it with

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Speaker 1: the Arizona Cardinals based off what they have already and

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Speaker 1: what they're looking to do as far as the offense

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Speaker 1: is concerned. So Travis Atn closes out numbers thirty one

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Speaker 1: to forty on Mike Jarecki's Top fifty drafts Prospects. Let's

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Speaker 1: count down or recap the most recent five Kadarius, Tony,

674
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Speaker 1: Nico Collins, Richie Grant, Jackson Carmen, and Travis Etn. Those

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Speaker 1: were numbers thirty five to thirty one, and again we

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Speaker 1: covered thirty one to forty here on this episode a

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Speaker 1: Cardinals cover two. Next show we will go from twenty

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Speaker 1: one to thirty and then I think those are becoming

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00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:07,040
Speaker 1: more familiar names that Cardinal fans are aware of and

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Speaker 1: might more likely be in that range at either sixteen

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00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:14,080
Speaker 1: or if the Cardinals should drop into the twenties and

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Speaker 1: be that pick on April twenty nine. But again, I've

683
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Speaker 1: enjoyed this so far, MJ because it does give a

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Speaker 1: lot of our listeners and myself included a little bit

685
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Speaker 1: more of a broader sense of what the Cardinals might

686
00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:29,399
Speaker 1: be looking at Day one and Day two. Keep in mind,

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00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:31,399
Speaker 1: on Day two right now, they only had that one pick,

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Speaker 1: and that's at number forty nine overall. Yeah, and we're

689
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Speaker 1: using NFL dot Com. Lanzer Line, he's done a really

690
00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:40,080
Speaker 1: good job over the years rating the capsules, and they've

691
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Speaker 1: had a Chad reader. Lanzer Line's father was a long

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Speaker 1: time offensive line coach. Matter of fact, he is working

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Speaker 1: out some of these draft heres in Arizona, so maybe

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Speaker 1: the Cardinals could have some intel. So quickly here Lance

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00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:55,600
Speaker 1: ranked the position groups going into their draft. Number one

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00:37:55,719 --> 00:37:57,920
Speaker 1: wide receiver. I mean again, I don't know him. He's

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00:37:57,920 --> 00:37:59,359
Speaker 1: gonna go in the first round, but I could see

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Speaker 1: a lot between the second and third rounds, just like

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Speaker 1: a year ago. He says offensive tackle, interior, offensive lines, three,

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Speaker 1: AD drusher four, quarnerback five, which is interesting because I

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Speaker 1: thought it's more of a deeper class linebacker six, quarterbacks seventh.

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Speaker 1: He has a quarterback seventh, and he says I'd be

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Speaker 1: willing to put this three quarterbacks from twenty up against

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Speaker 1: the three quarterbacks from twenty twenty one. However, this drafts

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Speaker 1: by potential fush rounds, and he also mentioned Kellen Mond,

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Speaker 1: who teams could look look for in the future. Obviously

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Speaker 1: in Kyle Trash, but he has this quarterback position seventh

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Speaker 1: and unfortunately the safety eight, number eight, running back nine.

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Speaker 1: He thinks there's a drop off after the top two.

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Speaker 1: He does mention Trey Sermon, he likes him out of

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Speaker 1: Ohio State, A little bit different guy. Maybe we'll get

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Speaker 1: to him tight end and then interior defensive line. Good

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00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:52,759
Speaker 1: thing the Cardinals went out and got JJ Watt. All right,

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Speaker 1: I'm glad you brought up the quarterbacks because I think

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Speaker 1: this is fascinating. But bird Gang, hold on four moments.

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Speaker 1: If you haven't already, update to the latest version of

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Speaker 1: the Cardinals mobile app today. The update features an all

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Speaker 1: app four more. All right, this is amazing. We talk

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Speaker 1: about the quarterback position every year because it is the

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00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:20,040
Speaker 1: most important position on the field. I'm sorry, bertrand Barrier,

722
00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:23,480
Speaker 1: that's just the way it is. Yet it is hard.

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Speaker 1: Let me stress that it is hard to find a

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Speaker 1: solid franchise quarterback, even if you are drafting in the

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Speaker 1: first round and have a top five pick. A couple

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00:39:36,520 --> 00:39:39,239
Speaker 1: of different stats, one that I saw and relayed to

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Speaker 1: you over the weekend, and another one MJ, that you

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Speaker 1: relayed back to me. We all talk about quarterbacks, but

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Speaker 1: keep this in mind. ESPN's Jeremy Shap over the weekend

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Speaker 1: tweeted this, forty four quarterbacks have been selected either first, second,

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Speaker 1: or third overall, and the last fifty drafts, only two

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Speaker 1: of those forty four quarterbacks, Troy Aikman and Peyton Manning,

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Speaker 1: won Super Bowls starting for the teams that drafted them.

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Speaker 1: And that's an important distinction. You were drafted by a

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Speaker 1: team who had a top three pick and you won

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Speaker 1: a Super Bowl, started a Super Bowl for that team.

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Speaker 1: So Eli Manning doesn't come into that. Yes, he was

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Speaker 1: a top three pick, but he was not selected by

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Speaker 1: the New York Giants. So it goes even deeper than that.

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Speaker 1: Here's the stat that you shared with me, MJ. Thirty

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Speaker 1: quarterbacks drafted within the top five picks from nineteen ninety

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Speaker 1: to twenty fifteen. Only two of those thirty quarterbacks have

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Speaker 1: won Super Bowls as starters, regardless of who they were

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Speaker 1: drafted by. Peyton Manning and Eli Manning the only two

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Speaker 1: starters who have won Super Bowls. Quarter Backs drafted in

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Speaker 1: the top five picks. So, you know, we talk about

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Speaker 1: what the best quarterbacks of our generation, Manning, Brady, Breeze.

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Speaker 1: You can can throw someone else in there, but those

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Speaker 1: three are kind of married together. Manning is the only

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Speaker 1: one who was a first round pick number one over Breeze,

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Speaker 1: second round, Brady sixth round. So and I get why

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Speaker 1: teams do this. I totally understand it, But there's always

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00:41:32,520 --> 00:41:34,799
Speaker 1: that quarterback. Maybe Josh Allen is the next one. He

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00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:38,360
Speaker 1: was the fifth of the five I'm sorry, the fourth

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Speaker 1: of the five quarterbacks. Lamar Jackson was fifth of that class.

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00:41:42,440 --> 00:41:45,880
Speaker 1: Yet who do we focus on these days? Allen Lamar Jackson?

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00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:50,319
Speaker 1: So I'm just you know, again, I hope, let's hope

758
00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:52,840
Speaker 1: Kyler Murray when we're having this discussion in twenty years

759
00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:55,920
Speaker 1: is the exception and not the rule. But I totally

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00:41:56,040 --> 00:41:58,880
Speaker 1: understand why we put so much emphasis on quarterback play.

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Speaker 1: Yet based off these numbers, it does not signal to

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Speaker 1: you that you are going to either a win or

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Speaker 1: be even get to the super Bowl, let alone win it.

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Speaker 1: And that's why Ron Wolfe would always say, you take

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Speaker 1: a quarterback every year. Of course, that doesn't go well

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Speaker 1: with Aaron Rodgers when they're trying to win now. But

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Speaker 1: you know, when you get a franchise quarterback, you want

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Speaker 1: to make sure you protect him. You want to make

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Speaker 1: sure you're doing everything in your power to make sure

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Speaker 1: he could succeed. And I think the Cardinals are doing

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00:42:27,040 --> 00:42:29,480
Speaker 1: that obviously with the addition of Rodney Hudson bringing in

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Speaker 1: aj Green. But at the same time, though, you know,

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Speaker 1: it's no guarantees. I mean, a lot of money's invested

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Speaker 1: on just the evaluation of the quarterback. They're analytics that

775
00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:45,000
Speaker 1: I'm sure they're deeper than we have, so yeah, and

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00:42:45,400 --> 00:42:47,600
Speaker 1: it's interesting because you know that they're talking about next

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Speaker 1: year's class already, and you know, compared to last year's class.

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Speaker 1: And I always think that, you know, we heard about

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Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence for a couple of years and now we're

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Speaker 1: going to see the fruits at a labor But you

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00:42:56,560 --> 00:42:59,839
Speaker 1: just look at it. I mean, when I look at

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Speaker 1: it from a standpoint of everyone thinks the Niners have

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Speaker 1: moved up for a quarterback. And you know, we can

784
00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:12,160
Speaker 1: make a case about Mac Jones and Zach Wilson. I

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00:43:12,200 --> 00:43:14,640
Speaker 1: mean Zach Wilson, he doesn't have a lot of starts.

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00:43:14,640 --> 00:43:17,239
Speaker 1: He played at BYU, not the greatest competition, struggle to

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Speaker 1: close to Carolina Craig. Would it be a surprise? Now,

788
00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:23,839
Speaker 1: we shouldn't be surprised, because you know, I think we

789
00:43:23,840 --> 00:43:26,160
Speaker 1: were surprised when DeAndre Hopkins was traded when the Cardinals

790
00:43:26,160 --> 00:43:28,120
Speaker 1: signed JJ Watt. You know you've been around the league

791
00:43:28,160 --> 00:43:30,960
Speaker 1: long enough to where he connect the dots. Okay, it

792
00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:33,480
Speaker 1: makes sense. Do you think the Niners would take a

793
00:43:33,520 --> 00:43:37,120
Speaker 1: position player at number three? It would be a surprise.

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00:43:37,200 --> 00:43:39,560
Speaker 1: And only this aspect because it has not been talked

795
00:43:39,600 --> 00:43:46,480
Speaker 1: about yet. I understand that if you're talking best player available,

796
00:43:46,920 --> 00:43:49,960
Speaker 1: if you think if you're ranking all players in this

797
00:43:50,040 --> 00:43:52,760
Speaker 1: draft class, I think the consensus is is Trevor Lawrence

798
00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:56,240
Speaker 1: is head and shoulders above everyone else, and he's learned

799
00:43:56,400 --> 00:44:00,000
Speaker 1: he should be the number one player and regardless of position. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but the second best player I've heard a lot of

801
00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:05,200
Speaker 1: people say, is Kyle Pitts to tie it in out

802
00:44:05,200 --> 00:44:10,680
Speaker 1: of Florida And do you move up Mark Chase? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: But if you're the forty nine ers, do you move

804
00:44:12,920 --> 00:44:19,240
Speaker 1: up that high to get a position players that you think? Well, again,

805
00:44:19,320 --> 00:44:22,800
Speaker 1: all it matters is if how that particular team feels

806
00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:25,560
Speaker 1: and believes about a player, So we might say it's

807
00:44:25,640 --> 00:44:29,359
Speaker 1: too steep a price to pay. If you think that's

808
00:44:29,360 --> 00:44:32,520
Speaker 1: a Hall of Fame talent, and if you're moving up

809
00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:36,240
Speaker 1: you hope that's the case, then there is no price

810
00:44:36,400 --> 00:44:39,160
Speaker 1: too large to pay for something like that. But I

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Speaker 1: would be a surprise. I would personally be surprised because

812
00:44:41,719 --> 00:44:44,160
Speaker 1: we're all thinking, you know, the top three picks are

813
00:44:44,200 --> 00:44:46,400
Speaker 1: all going to be quarterbacks, and you know, maybe the

814
00:44:46,840 --> 00:44:50,520
Speaker 1: Falcons at number four looking to draft someone and Matt

815
00:44:50,600 --> 00:44:53,160
Speaker 1: Ryan's air apparent if they don't try it off the pick,

816
00:44:53,239 --> 00:44:56,080
Speaker 1: because there's been discussion that the Falcons are listening to

817
00:44:56,200 --> 00:44:59,480
Speaker 1: offers to move out of number four. I just think

818
00:44:59,480 --> 00:45:02,239
Speaker 1: the money that got involved in George Kittle. I don't

819
00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:04,560
Speaker 1: know if you can. I know the Patriots went out

820
00:45:04,560 --> 00:45:06,839
Speaker 1: inside the top two tight ends in football, but they

821
00:45:06,840 --> 00:45:09,440
Speaker 1: were the worst tight end position since the last year.

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Speaker 1: If they don't take your quarterback, I think it would

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00:45:12,160 --> 00:45:14,960
Speaker 1: be Jamar Chase. You put him with Brandon and Iyuk

824
00:45:15,320 --> 00:45:18,839
Speaker 1: Deebo Samuel, Yeah, I mean, and it's all everything, Well,

825
00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:22,279
Speaker 1: Jimmy's fine with this, okay, and you know, we'll draft

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Speaker 1: a quarterback for the future, and we're gonna be all

827
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Speaker 1: set up. Listen, the Niners roster right now is built

828
00:45:28,160 --> 00:45:30,319
Speaker 1: to get back to the Super Bowl if they could

829
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Speaker 1: stay healthy and get Whether you like Grappolo or not, yes,

830
00:45:33,680 --> 00:45:35,680
Speaker 1: he's going to turn the ball over. But defensively, they

831
00:45:35,680 --> 00:45:37,319
Speaker 1: don't give up a ton of points. They could stop

832
00:45:37,360 --> 00:45:39,640
Speaker 1: the run. They can put pressure on you. So you

833
00:45:39,719 --> 00:45:44,080
Speaker 1: put Jamar Chase in that offense, they would be dangerous.

834
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Speaker 1: And Kylie Pitts Listen, I know they got Terry Fontano.

835
00:45:50,440 --> 00:45:52,040
Speaker 1: He's a new GM there and he's already come out

836
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Speaker 1: and said we're gonna drop the quarterback. We're gonna draft

837
00:45:53,880 --> 00:45:56,279
Speaker 1: a wide receiver. Juliu Jones is still there. I met Ryan.

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00:45:56,320 --> 00:45:59,520
Speaker 1: To me, he's gonna be Ryan Tannehill with Arthur Smith

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00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:01,560
Speaker 1: going to run the ball. They signed Mike Davis. It

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00:46:01,600 --> 00:46:04,160
Speaker 1: wouldn't surprise me if they get a running back early

841
00:46:04,200 --> 00:46:06,319
Speaker 1: in the second round. The guys we've talked about, maybe

842
00:46:06,480 --> 00:46:09,839
Speaker 1: Javonta william I would take pits because what he did

843
00:46:09,880 --> 00:46:13,919
Speaker 1: in that Tennessee offense, he creates space. And you look

844
00:46:13,960 --> 00:46:16,799
Speaker 1: how Smith's played the tight end who got paid in

845
00:46:16,840 --> 00:46:20,000
Speaker 1: New England. Look at some of the wide receivers he

846
00:46:20,080 --> 00:46:22,520
Speaker 1: was one of the better play callers, creating space where

847
00:46:22,640 --> 00:46:24,680
Speaker 1: his players and it's all pretty kind of the run games.

848
00:46:24,680 --> 00:46:26,600
Speaker 1: So they're gonna ride Mike Davis, but they will get

849
00:46:26,600 --> 00:46:29,440
Speaker 1: it running back in that second round. So if I'm them,

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00:46:29,560 --> 00:46:32,440
Speaker 1: it's either Pits or if they want to get protection

851
00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:35,399
Speaker 1: or trade down because I'm not taking a quarterback there.

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00:46:35,400 --> 00:46:38,200
Speaker 1: Matt Ryan's under contract and Pete doesn't get the credit

853
00:46:38,239 --> 00:46:40,680
Speaker 1: he lost the Super Bowl. You look at his completion

854
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Speaker 1: percentage over the last ten or twelve years, he's number one,

855
00:46:44,239 --> 00:46:47,560
Speaker 1: number one, so not so fast. And I know they

856
00:46:47,800 --> 00:46:49,640
Speaker 1: got a new head coach and the new GM and

857
00:46:49,680 --> 00:46:51,600
Speaker 1: these guys are gonna call the shots because they got

858
00:46:51,680 --> 00:46:56,200
Speaker 1: rid of you know, Thomas to meet your off. Rich

859
00:46:56,360 --> 00:46:58,480
Speaker 1: McKay is still involved, but they're gonna let these guys

860
00:46:58,520 --> 00:47:02,120
Speaker 1: do their thing. But if they can get Pits and

861
00:47:02,200 --> 00:47:04,040
Speaker 1: get a running back in the second round, the Falcons

862
00:47:04,040 --> 00:47:06,680
Speaker 1: will be better off than trying to get the future.

863
00:47:06,719 --> 00:47:08,840
Speaker 1: Because Arthur Blank has money, they'll go out and spend

864
00:47:08,880 --> 00:47:10,920
Speaker 1: if they need to. A lot of people believe that

865
00:47:10,960 --> 00:47:14,600
Speaker 1: the draft does start at number four. Yet we talked

866
00:47:14,600 --> 00:47:17,720
Speaker 1: about being surprised at the forty nine ers went elsewhere

867
00:47:17,760 --> 00:47:21,279
Speaker 1: at number three talking about not drafting a quarterback, and

868
00:47:21,320 --> 00:47:24,600
Speaker 1: that would be a tremendous smokescreen because, as we've heard

869
00:47:24,600 --> 00:47:27,960
Speaker 1: of the last several days, Justin Fields is having a

870
00:47:28,040 --> 00:47:32,080
Speaker 1: second pro day, Trey Lance is having a second pro day,

871
00:47:32,200 --> 00:47:36,719
Speaker 1: and John Lynch Kyle Shanahan are both expected to be

872
00:47:36,880 --> 00:47:40,640
Speaker 1: at both of those pro days. Now, are you hoping

873
00:47:40,719 --> 00:47:44,480
Speaker 1: to show up? Be seen as an indication of what

874
00:47:44,520 --> 00:47:47,319
Speaker 1: you want everyone to think, as opposed to what you're

875
00:47:47,360 --> 00:47:50,000
Speaker 1: going to do. Who knows? It's you know, I have

876
00:47:50,040 --> 00:47:53,759
Speaker 1: a hard time this time of year, MG, believing anything

877
00:47:54,280 --> 00:47:58,239
Speaker 1: that I see red said or on social media. You're

878
00:47:58,520 --> 00:48:00,839
Speaker 1: a smart man, You've learned. I'm with you. I try

879
00:48:00,840 --> 00:48:03,200
Speaker 1: to filter it out and you know, I you know,

880
00:48:03,239 --> 00:48:05,640
Speaker 1: I'll sample mox, but I don't. I don't. I look

881
00:48:05,680 --> 00:48:08,080
Speaker 1: at you know, who are the top fifteen, twenty five

882
00:48:08,200 --> 00:48:10,000
Speaker 1: thirty players, and then you kind of figure it out.

883
00:48:10,000 --> 00:48:13,760
Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean, it's just that, you know, Jimmy

884
00:48:13,880 --> 00:48:16,239
Speaker 1: was fine with this, like he's okay with you know,

885
00:48:16,239 --> 00:48:18,640
Speaker 1: Whitney White. Whitney forced his way out even though you

886
00:48:18,640 --> 00:48:21,640
Speaker 1: know clearly he is in the best option right now, Hey, listen,

887
00:48:21,640 --> 00:48:23,640
Speaker 1: if they want to take a quarterback there and plan

888
00:48:23,880 --> 00:48:25,960
Speaker 1: for the future and already to move on group. More

889
00:48:26,000 --> 00:48:28,400
Speaker 1: power to him. Like you said, it's it's a position

890
00:48:28,480 --> 00:48:32,040
Speaker 1: is hard to find. You know, um you can. You

891
00:48:32,040 --> 00:48:34,000
Speaker 1: can draft a guy in the first round and you

892
00:48:34,000 --> 00:48:36,520
Speaker 1: know he doesn't pan out. But if you you know

893
00:48:36,800 --> 00:48:39,640
Speaker 1: again there their biggest issue is if Garoppolo gets hurt,

894
00:48:40,120 --> 00:48:43,040
Speaker 1: who's the backup quarterback? And they wanted to bring in

895
00:48:43,080 --> 00:48:45,879
Speaker 1: a veteran guy. So all of a sudden, if you're

896
00:48:46,000 --> 00:48:48,440
Speaker 1: a first round picking a quarterback, is Land's going to

897
00:48:48,480 --> 00:48:50,440
Speaker 1: see the field? Is Josh Rosen's gonna be the backup

898
00:48:50,520 --> 00:48:56,160
Speaker 1: quarterback there? So it'd be interesting. But Kyle Shannon had

899
00:48:56,160 --> 00:48:58,279
Speaker 1: already come out and said, we don't have to hide

900
00:48:58,320 --> 00:49:01,440
Speaker 1: this now, you know what I mean. Like before you

901
00:49:01,520 --> 00:49:05,720
Speaker 1: probably would send your number one scouting or director of

902
00:49:05,719 --> 00:49:08,480
Speaker 1: college scouting to go look at a prospect. They don't

903
00:49:08,480 --> 00:49:11,360
Speaker 1: have to hide it now they have options. Who goes first?

904
00:49:11,400 --> 00:49:13,719
Speaker 1: We know that's Lawrence, who goes second and third? So

905
00:49:14,080 --> 00:49:16,280
Speaker 1: you don't have to hide it. But man, it would

906
00:49:16,280 --> 00:49:20,200
Speaker 1: be amazing if they wouldn't either Pits or Chase. And

907
00:49:20,239 --> 00:49:22,239
Speaker 1: again I don't think Pits because of how much you're

908
00:49:22,239 --> 00:49:25,640
Speaker 1: paying Kittle, But you put Jamar Chase in that offense. Wow,

909
00:49:26,640 --> 00:49:29,759
Speaker 1: the noise, if you will, is only going to get

910
00:49:29,800 --> 00:49:34,520
Speaker 1: louder as we get closer and closer to April twenty ninth. Hey,

911
00:49:34,560 --> 00:49:37,200
Speaker 1: one quick note before we wrap up this edition of

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00:49:37,320 --> 00:49:40,640
Speaker 1: Cardinals Cover two. As I see this Fox Sports, Jay

913
00:49:40,640 --> 00:49:44,280
Speaker 1: Glazer of Fox Sports is reporting that running back James

914
00:49:44,360 --> 00:49:48,040
Speaker 1: Connor is visiting with the Cardinals. So as we talk

915
00:49:48,080 --> 00:49:51,520
Speaker 1: about veteran running backs, he's certainly someone that is still

916
00:49:51,560 --> 00:49:54,879
Speaker 1: available and still on the lists. And yes, we know

917
00:49:55,000 --> 00:49:58,360
Speaker 1: of his background the former Pittsburgh Steelers running back and

918
00:49:58,400 --> 00:50:01,280
Speaker 1: the course that automatically brings up the connection with James Saxon,

919
00:50:01,520 --> 00:50:04,520
Speaker 1: the Cardinals running backs coach. So not saying it's going

920
00:50:04,600 --> 00:50:08,200
Speaker 1: to happen. All Jay Glazer is reporting is that Connor

921
00:50:08,400 --> 00:50:11,120
Speaker 1: is visiting, and that is something that we have been

922
00:50:11,120 --> 00:50:13,600
Speaker 1: paying attention to as far as these running backs, these

923
00:50:13,640 --> 00:50:19,560
Speaker 1: quote unquote veterans Todd Gurley, Chris Thompson, Jerrick McKinnon, Lashawn McCoy,

924
00:50:19,680 --> 00:50:22,839
Speaker 1: Frank Gore someone to come in as a compliment, if

925
00:50:22,880 --> 00:50:26,920
Speaker 1: you will, to Chase Edmonds Connor. He's got the measurables

926
00:50:26,960 --> 00:50:28,920
Speaker 1: that you're looking for with that one two punch with

927
00:50:29,120 --> 00:50:32,759
Speaker 1: Chase Edmonds. He's dealt with some injuries, you know, over

928
00:50:32,800 --> 00:50:35,800
Speaker 1: the last couple of years, but obviously he's a fighter

929
00:50:36,080 --> 00:50:39,040
Speaker 1: coming back from cancer. But you look at it, I

930
00:50:39,040 --> 00:50:42,480
Speaker 1: mean the fact that it's listened as a visit. But

931
00:50:42,640 --> 00:50:46,360
Speaker 1: now you reminded me earlier about Colt McCoy was a

932
00:50:46,480 --> 00:50:48,160
Speaker 1: visit and that was reported the week before and he

933
00:50:48,239 --> 00:50:51,239
Speaker 1: ended up signing, you know, coming off the injury. The

934
00:50:51,239 --> 00:50:54,359
Speaker 1: Cardinals need to know they need to add a running back.

935
00:50:54,520 --> 00:50:56,600
Speaker 1: This would this would allow them not to me take

936
00:50:56,640 --> 00:50:58,800
Speaker 1: a running back in the second or third round the draft.

937
00:50:58,840 --> 00:51:02,160
Speaker 1: Now again, is it a one year deal. Chases contract expires,

938
00:51:02,600 --> 00:51:04,920
Speaker 1: you know, what's his health. But he's a guy that

939
00:51:05,000 --> 00:51:07,160
Speaker 1: can get that the third and two and fourth and

940
00:51:07,280 --> 00:51:10,560
Speaker 1: one where you don't have to you know, have Kyler

941
00:51:10,680 --> 00:51:13,480
Speaker 1: under center or try to move somebody around and do

942
00:51:13,480 --> 00:51:15,960
Speaker 1: a direct snapp to the running back. So he fits

943
00:51:16,000 --> 00:51:18,799
Speaker 1: the profile of what they're looking for. And I think

944
00:51:18,880 --> 00:51:21,160
Speaker 1: Mark Inger would have fit that profile. And Mike Davis,

945
00:51:21,440 --> 00:51:23,760
Speaker 1: those guys obviously he didn't want to wait. They signed

946
00:51:23,800 --> 00:51:27,719
Speaker 1: with other teams, the Falcons with Mike Davis. So yeah,

947
00:51:27,760 --> 00:51:30,520
Speaker 1: I mean it makes sense. But now as the question is, Okay,

948
00:51:30,560 --> 00:51:33,640
Speaker 1: what's the physical look like, what's his asking price because

949
00:51:33,960 --> 00:51:36,360
Speaker 1: at this point in time, he wants to get in

950
00:51:36,440 --> 00:51:38,560
Speaker 1: an NFL camp. But I do like the fact that

951
00:51:38,680 --> 00:51:41,240
Speaker 1: James Sex and the running backs coach has intel, Sean

952
00:51:41,320 --> 00:51:43,360
Speaker 1: Kuga has an intel. I'm sure there's another guy in

953
00:51:43,400 --> 00:51:46,960
Speaker 1: that locker room that may have intel. So it's interesting

954
00:51:47,000 --> 00:51:50,319
Speaker 1: because of the pick formula. Do you want to sign

955
00:51:50,320 --> 00:51:51,920
Speaker 1: a guy now, you want to wait after the draft?

956
00:51:51,960 --> 00:51:54,080
Speaker 1: And I got getting the weeds here, but some of

957
00:51:54,160 --> 00:51:56,640
Speaker 1: these guys, I think they're concerned. If the teams get

958
00:51:56,640 --> 00:51:58,279
Speaker 1: to the draft and they draft a running back in

959
00:51:58,320 --> 00:52:01,240
Speaker 1: the first three rounds, all of the sudden, your leverage changes.

960
00:52:01,360 --> 00:52:04,920
Speaker 1: So I don't always asking price. And again you got

961
00:52:04,920 --> 00:52:06,319
Speaker 1: to make sure you him a physical. But I like

962
00:52:06,400 --> 00:52:08,080
Speaker 1: the fact that they're kicking the tires and it couldn't

963
00:52:08,080 --> 00:52:09,560
Speaker 1: be one of those signings. Craig. We get to the

964
00:52:09,560 --> 00:52:12,080
Speaker 1: second round and the Cardinals take another player, and we

965
00:52:12,080 --> 00:52:14,920
Speaker 1: hear the Cardinals signed James Connor just so they can

966
00:52:15,040 --> 00:52:18,879
Speaker 1: cover themselves when the weekends over. So to speak. Yeah,

967
00:52:18,920 --> 00:52:21,120
Speaker 1: some of these players, if you wait too long, you

968
00:52:21,160 --> 00:52:23,280
Speaker 1: wait till after the draft, and all of a sudden

969
00:52:23,360 --> 00:52:26,439
Speaker 1: that job is no longer open again, just to visit,

970
00:52:26,520 --> 00:52:29,800
Speaker 1: reported by Jay Glazier of Fox Sports. He knows his stuff.

971
00:52:29,880 --> 00:52:33,360
Speaker 1: James Connor reportedly visiting with the Arizona Cardinals. Will follow

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Speaker 1: that and of course bring you all the news right

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Speaker 1: here on Cardinals Cover two. And on that note, let's

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Speaker 1: put a lid on this edition of Cardinals cover two

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Speaker 1: presented by Hunday, proud partner of the Arizona Cardinals. As always,

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Speaker 1: special thanks to our executive producer Jim I'm a Hundro

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Speaker 1: or Mike Jarecki. I'm Craig reel Loop. We'll talk to

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Speaker 1: you next time here on Cardinals Cover two