1 00:00:02,520 --> 00:00:07,000 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Audio Studios, Podcasts, radio news. 2 00:00:09,720 --> 00:00:12,760 Speaker 2: This is the Bloomberg Day BAQ podcast. Good morning, It's Wednesday, 3 00:00:12,760 --> 00:00:15,880 Speaker 2: the tenth of September. I'm Caroline Hepka in London and. 4 00:00:15,800 --> 00:00:19,160 Speaker 1: I'm Stephen Caroline Brussels. Coming up today, the United States 5 00:00:19,239 --> 00:00:23,239 Speaker 1: offers rare criticism of Israel after the unprecedented bombing of 6 00:00:23,239 --> 00:00:24,560 Speaker 1: her mass leaders in Katar. 7 00:00:25,160 --> 00:00:29,560 Speaker 2: Poland scrambles jets and shots Warsaw Airport as it engages 8 00:00:29,720 --> 00:00:33,360 Speaker 2: with Russian strike drones over its territory in what it 9 00:00:33,479 --> 00:00:35,080 Speaker 2: calls an act of aggression. 10 00:00:35,600 --> 00:00:38,959 Speaker 1: Plus slimming down to boost sales, Apple unveils a new 11 00:00:39,000 --> 00:00:43,360 Speaker 1: thinner iPhone air, but a new lineup leaves investors underwhelmed. 12 00:00:43,840 --> 00:00:45,640 Speaker 2: Let's start with a roundup of our top stories. 13 00:00:45,760 --> 00:00:48,960 Speaker 1: Israel's unprecedented strike on her mass targets and the Katari 14 00:00:49,040 --> 00:00:52,920 Speaker 1: capital Doha has drawn rare public criticism from Donald Trump. 15 00:00:53,320 --> 00:00:56,320 Speaker 1: Until now, the US President has appeared aligned with Israeli 16 00:00:56,320 --> 00:01:01,920 Speaker 1: Prime Minister Benjaminettania, Who's aggressive approach to targeting regional adversaries. However, 17 00:01:01,960 --> 00:01:04,600 Speaker 1: Trump voice frustration as he said he was not given 18 00:01:04,640 --> 00:01:06,080 Speaker 1: advanced notice of the attack. 19 00:01:06,640 --> 00:01:07,720 Speaker 3: I'm not thrilled. 20 00:01:07,360 --> 00:01:12,959 Speaker 4: About the whole situations not a good situation. But I 21 00:01:13,000 --> 00:01:15,880 Speaker 4: will say this, we want the hostages back, but we 22 00:01:15,920 --> 00:01:18,479 Speaker 4: are not thrilled about the way that went down today. 23 00:01:19,200 --> 00:01:21,560 Speaker 1: Trump added that he spoke with both ness and Niahu 24 00:01:21,600 --> 00:01:24,840 Speaker 1: and Katari leaders after the strike and assured Katar that 25 00:01:24,920 --> 00:01:28,080 Speaker 1: such an attack would not happen again. Hamas said five 26 00:01:28,120 --> 00:01:30,360 Speaker 1: of its members were killed in the Doha attack, though 27 00:01:30,360 --> 00:01:35,399 Speaker 1: its main negotiating delegations survived. Meanwhile, European leaders denounced the 28 00:01:35,400 --> 00:01:39,000 Speaker 1: strike as a setback to Katari mediated talks aimed at 29 00:01:39,160 --> 00:01:41,760 Speaker 1: ending the war in Gaza and securing the release of 30 00:01:41,800 --> 00:01:43,320 Speaker 1: hostages held by Hamas. 31 00:01:44,520 --> 00:01:47,880 Speaker 2: Now, Poland has deployed military jets and shut down part 32 00:01:47,920 --> 00:01:51,240 Speaker 2: of its airspace as it engaged with Russian strike drones 33 00:01:51,280 --> 00:01:56,280 Speaker 2: that Poland's military says have repeatedly violated its airspace. Bloomberg's 34 00:01:56,280 --> 00:01:58,160 Speaker 2: Mijo Kubala reports. 35 00:01:57,760 --> 00:02:00,720 Speaker 5: Now, the Russian drones crossed over from me bring Ukraine 36 00:02:00,800 --> 00:02:03,160 Speaker 5: in what Poland has condemned as an act of aggression. 37 00:02:03,560 --> 00:02:07,040 Speaker 5: The country's military says and operation is underway to identify 38 00:02:07,160 --> 00:02:10,120 Speaker 5: and neutralize the objects. It urged residents in a number 39 00:02:10,120 --> 00:02:13,440 Speaker 5: of border regions to stay at home authorities also closed 40 00:02:13,440 --> 00:02:16,480 Speaker 5: the airspace over parts of the country, including around the 41 00:02:16,520 --> 00:02:19,839 Speaker 5: main international airport in Warsaw. Prime Minister Donald Tusk said 42 00:02:19,840 --> 00:02:23,320 Speaker 5: he briefed NATO Secretary General Markrute about the current situation 43 00:02:23,680 --> 00:02:26,800 Speaker 5: and that they remain in constant contact in Brussels. Mikael 44 00:02:26,880 --> 00:02:28,280 Speaker 5: Kubala Bloomberg. 45 00:02:27,960 --> 00:02:31,840 Speaker 1: Radio BLOOMBERGUDA stands that US President Donald Trump told European 46 00:02:31,880 --> 00:02:35,320 Speaker 1: officials he's willing to impose sweeping new tariffs on India 47 00:02:35,360 --> 00:02:38,640 Speaker 1: and China, but only if the EU does so as well. 48 00:02:39,000 --> 00:02:40,960 Speaker 1: The aim of the tariffs would be to push Russia's 49 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:44,680 Speaker 1: Ladimir Putin to the negotiating table with Ukraine. It comes 50 00:02:44,720 --> 00:02:48,280 Speaker 1: after President Trump's deadline for Putin to engage in face 51 00:02:48,320 --> 00:02:51,400 Speaker 1: to face peace talks with Ukrainess of vladimir' Elensky passed 52 00:02:51,440 --> 00:02:55,120 Speaker 1: without consequence. Trump's proposal comes as the UK has reopened 53 00:02:55,160 --> 00:02:58,640 Speaker 1: its dialogue with Beijing. Business Secretary Peter Kaid is attending 54 00:02:58,680 --> 00:03:00,920 Speaker 1: the first high level trade top with the two countries 55 00:03:00,960 --> 00:03:05,120 Speaker 1: since twenty eighteen, is expected to press for better access 56 00:03:05,160 --> 00:03:06,200 Speaker 1: for British companies. 57 00:03:07,360 --> 00:03:10,800 Speaker 2: France's President of Maduel Macon has named out going Defence 58 00:03:10,840 --> 00:03:14,919 Speaker 2: Minister Sebasiel Locarno as his new Prime Minister. Macwar has 59 00:03:14,960 --> 00:03:18,120 Speaker 2: asked his longtime ally to consult the political groupings in 60 00:03:18,160 --> 00:03:22,000 Speaker 2: Parliament with a view to adopting a budget. Finding consensus 61 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:25,600 Speaker 2: on tax and spending plans that cut France's deficit will 62 00:03:25,639 --> 00:03:29,880 Speaker 2: be Lecurno's biggest challenge. As our Paris Bureau chief Alan 63 00:03:29,960 --> 00:03:31,760 Speaker 2: Katz explains. 64 00:03:32,080 --> 00:03:34,760 Speaker 6: Look on new who came originally from a party called 65 00:03:34,760 --> 00:03:37,080 Speaker 6: the Republicans, which is sort of a center right party, 66 00:03:37,880 --> 00:03:41,120 Speaker 6: has been with mccon since mcworm became president in twenty seventeen. 67 00:03:42,240 --> 00:03:44,520 Speaker 6: Is he the person to sort of build bridges across 68 00:03:44,560 --> 00:03:48,480 Speaker 6: these political parties. It's not immediately obvious. He's known as 69 00:03:48,480 --> 00:03:50,840 Speaker 6: the skilled negotiator. He doesn't have a lot of enemies. 70 00:03:50,920 --> 00:03:52,880 Speaker 6: He's been pretty good as a defense minister. 71 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:57,720 Speaker 2: Alan Katz went on to say that Locurno's minority government 72 00:03:57,760 --> 00:04:00,800 Speaker 2: will need tacit approval from the left all the right 73 00:04:00,880 --> 00:04:03,440 Speaker 2: to survive a possible no confidence motion. 74 00:04:04,480 --> 00:04:08,400 Speaker 1: A judge has temporarily blocked Donald Trump from removing Federal 75 00:04:08,400 --> 00:04:11,320 Speaker 1: Reserve Governor Lisa Cook, allowing her to stay in the 76 00:04:11,400 --> 00:04:15,360 Speaker 1: job while challenging mortgage fraud allegations. The ruling means Cook 77 00:04:15,440 --> 00:04:18,520 Speaker 1: will likely be able to take part in the fed's 78 00:04:18,600 --> 00:04:22,800 Speaker 1: highly anticipated interest rate decision meeting next week. The judge 79 00:04:22,880 --> 00:04:26,080 Speaker 1: concluded that the alleged Mius conduct likely didn't amount to 80 00:04:26,279 --> 00:04:29,320 Speaker 1: cause for firing under the Federal Reserve Act, and the 81 00:04:29,400 --> 00:04:33,280 Speaker 1: nature of her dismissal likely violated due process rights under 82 00:04:33,279 --> 00:04:34,039 Speaker 1: the Constitution. 83 00:04:34,920 --> 00:04:37,800 Speaker 2: US job's growth was far less robust than the year 84 00:04:37,960 --> 00:04:41,040 Speaker 2: through to the end of March than previously reported. The 85 00:04:41,160 --> 00:04:45,200 Speaker 2: number of workers on payrolls will likely be revised down 86 00:04:45,360 --> 00:04:48,640 Speaker 2: by a record nine hundred and eleven thousand, or zero 87 00:04:48,680 --> 00:04:53,320 Speaker 2: point six percent, according to the US government's preliminary benchmark revision. 88 00:04:53,960 --> 00:04:57,560 Speaker 2: JP Morgan CEO Jamie Darman says that that latest US 89 00:04:57,680 --> 00:05:01,240 Speaker 2: payrolls revision is more proof that the is slowing. He 90 00:05:01,320 --> 00:05:05,240 Speaker 2: was speaking to CNBC. He also acknowledged the unpredictable nature 91 00:05:05,320 --> 00:05:06,440 Speaker 2: of economic growth. 92 00:05:07,120 --> 00:05:09,560 Speaker 7: The government data is important, our own data is important. 93 00:05:09,600 --> 00:05:13,200 Speaker 7: We get data from non government sources and you know, 94 00:05:13,240 --> 00:05:16,479 Speaker 7: you can look at Delingercy data, worldwide data, trade data. 95 00:05:16,640 --> 00:05:18,680 Speaker 7: We get all of that. But trying to figureut what 96 00:05:18,720 --> 00:05:20,080 Speaker 7: the clim is going to do is still hard to 97 00:05:20,120 --> 00:05:23,000 Speaker 7: do with all that data. And maybe one day AI 98 00:05:23,080 --> 00:05:25,800 Speaker 7: I'll fix that problem. But uh, you know, hopefully things 99 00:05:25,839 --> 00:05:28,000 Speaker 7: will be okay and but you do see that kind 100 00:05:28,040 --> 00:05:28,880 Speaker 7: of weakening. 101 00:05:28,560 --> 00:05:32,960 Speaker 2: Unfortunately, JP Morgan's Jamie Diamond there as US Treasury Sector 102 00:05:33,040 --> 00:05:35,680 Speaker 2: Scott best End called on the Federal Reserve to see 103 00:05:35,680 --> 00:05:38,880 Speaker 2: the data as a strong reason to change its policy 104 00:05:38,920 --> 00:05:40,400 Speaker 2: stants and cut rates. 105 00:05:41,320 --> 00:05:44,040 Speaker 1: British business groups of Warrens the labor governments at fiscal 106 00:05:44,120 --> 00:05:48,320 Speaker 1: policies could stoke price increases and threaten companies with billions 107 00:05:48,400 --> 00:05:51,840 Speaker 1: of pounds and extra costs. They say the Chancellor's policies 108 00:05:51,880 --> 00:05:55,080 Speaker 1: on taxes, employment rights and the minimum wage threatened to 109 00:05:55,120 --> 00:05:58,440 Speaker 1: pile billions of pounds of operating costs onto companies and 110 00:05:58,520 --> 00:06:02,159 Speaker 1: stoke price increases for another year. A spokesperson for the 111 00:06:02,160 --> 00:06:05,159 Speaker 1: British Chambers of Commerce said their number one ask from 112 00:06:05,160 --> 00:06:08,919 Speaker 1: her upcoming budget in November is for no more tax 113 00:06:08,960 --> 00:06:12,279 Speaker 1: increases on businesses. In the House of Commons, the Chancellor 114 00:06:12,360 --> 00:06:14,680 Speaker 1: hit back at the Conservative Party suggested that the UK 115 00:06:14,839 --> 00:06:18,359 Speaker 1: might need an IMF bailout due to higher borrowing costs. 116 00:06:19,360 --> 00:06:21,719 Speaker 8: The country would have heard what the leader of the 117 00:06:21,720 --> 00:06:26,039 Speaker 8: opposition said today talking down our economy in a desperate 118 00:06:26,040 --> 00:06:30,719 Speaker 8: attempt to get attention The truth is that the benches 119 00:06:30,760 --> 00:06:34,560 Speaker 8: opposite note that it is not serious and it is irresponsible. 120 00:06:35,000 --> 00:06:38,159 Speaker 8: The only thing in Britain that leaves a bailout is 121 00:06:38,200 --> 00:06:40,880 Speaker 8: the Tory Party from its failed leadership. 122 00:06:41,200 --> 00:06:43,920 Speaker 1: Josh love One, Chancell rayjer Reeves speaking there is Boomberg 123 00:06:43,960 --> 00:06:46,680 Speaker 1: Economics calculates that she needs to fill a projected thirty 124 00:06:46,720 --> 00:06:49,599 Speaker 1: five billion pound fiscal hole in her budget. 125 00:06:49,680 --> 00:06:53,320 Speaker 2: In November and Lassie Apple has introduced a fresh range 126 00:06:53,360 --> 00:06:58,640 Speaker 2: of products, including enhanced AirPods, watches, and its thinnest ever iPhone, 127 00:06:58,880 --> 00:07:01,960 Speaker 2: along with new pro versions of the device. The new 128 00:07:02,000 --> 00:07:06,040 Speaker 2: skinnier model dubs the iPhone seventeen Air do the loudest 129 00:07:06,120 --> 00:07:09,400 Speaker 2: cheers at its launch event in California, but it lags 130 00:07:09,440 --> 00:07:13,000 Speaker 2: in key areas including on battery, life, cameras and audio. 131 00:07:13,280 --> 00:07:15,800 Speaker 2: Dan Ives, the global head of tech research at web 132 00:07:15,800 --> 00:07:19,680 Speaker 2: Bush Securities, gave his tech take on the new upgrades. 133 00:07:20,680 --> 00:07:22,600 Speaker 9: Look, the reality is that this is not going to 134 00:07:22,640 --> 00:07:25,640 Speaker 9: be a super cycle. There's nothing here that makes you 135 00:07:25,760 --> 00:07:28,240 Speaker 9: think that this is going to be the game change 136 00:07:28,240 --> 00:07:30,920 Speaker 9: that everyone's been waiting for. But I do believe given 137 00:07:30,960 --> 00:07:34,200 Speaker 9: the install is given some of the tweaks here and 138 00:07:34,360 --> 00:07:36,880 Speaker 9: ultimately on the on sort of the second half of 139 00:07:36,920 --> 00:07:41,080 Speaker 9: this upgrade cycle, you will have an AI driven ECOSYSMAB, 140 00:07:41,160 --> 00:07:44,480 Speaker 9: we will be Google Gemini. This could be a sneaky 141 00:07:44,600 --> 00:07:48,080 Speaker 9: upgrade cycle that I think surprises investors on the upside. 142 00:07:48,640 --> 00:07:51,559 Speaker 2: Dan Ives, the global head of Tech research at Webb 143 00:07:51,600 --> 00:07:55,720 Speaker 2: Bush Securities, as investor reaction was muted with Apple shares 144 00:07:55,760 --> 00:07:58,240 Speaker 2: down one and a half percent in New York. 145 00:07:59,360 --> 00:08:01,960 Speaker 1: And those are time stories coming up. Looking at the 146 00:08:01,960 --> 00:08:05,720 Speaker 1: markets this morning, eurostocks fifty futures are at the moment 147 00:08:05,760 --> 00:08:08,360 Speaker 1: two tens of one percent higher. In Asia, we have 148 00:08:08,400 --> 00:08:11,520 Speaker 1: seen the MSCIS Specific index up by one point one percent, 149 00:08:11,560 --> 00:08:13,840 Speaker 1: the hang Sayings up by one point three percent today. 150 00:08:13,840 --> 00:08:16,120 Speaker 1: On currency markets, Bimberg dollar spot inex a tenth of 151 00:08:16,120 --> 00:08:19,440 Speaker 1: one percent week, or the eurotraining at one seventeen sixty 152 00:08:19,480 --> 00:08:22,000 Speaker 1: in the ten year treasury yield is holding steady this 153 00:08:22,080 --> 00:08:24,200 Speaker 1: morning at four point zero nine percent. 154 00:08:25,400 --> 00:08:28,800 Speaker 2: Now, you were in Paris yesterday, as Stephen Koe You're 155 00:08:28,800 --> 00:08:32,280 Speaker 2: back in Brussels today. There is simply no shortage of 156 00:08:32,320 --> 00:08:35,280 Speaker 2: news that we must discuss, and we will be thinking 157 00:08:35,520 --> 00:08:38,440 Speaker 2: about the strikes in Cut on just a moment. But 158 00:08:38,520 --> 00:08:42,680 Speaker 2: there's also Nova Nordisk out today talking about slashing nine 159 00:08:42,760 --> 00:08:47,800 Speaker 2: thousand jobs. And we've had more reaction from Poland around 160 00:08:47,840 --> 00:08:51,400 Speaker 2: the drone incident. These drones at the Polish military say, 161 00:08:51,640 --> 00:08:55,400 Speaker 2: have repeatedly come over from Ukraine, their Russian drones of 162 00:08:55,480 --> 00:08:59,960 Speaker 2: Poland convening an emergency cabinet meeting after this drone incident, 163 00:09:00,000 --> 00:09:03,240 Speaker 2: and so lots going on in Europe. Barely a chance 164 00:09:03,280 --> 00:09:05,920 Speaker 2: to think really about the politics in France today. 165 00:09:06,360 --> 00:09:07,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, indeed, and of course the big event in France 166 00:09:07,960 --> 00:09:09,560 Speaker 1: today is going to be the protest, which are going 167 00:09:09,559 --> 00:09:12,439 Speaker 1: to overshadow Sebastiania Cornoho's first day as Prime minister. He's 168 00:09:12,480 --> 00:09:14,319 Speaker 1: going to have his handover ceremony in a couple of 169 00:09:14,400 --> 00:09:17,000 Speaker 1: hours with Francois Berou. Will will get a chance to 170 00:09:17,040 --> 00:09:19,480 Speaker 1: hear a little bit from the new Prime minister as well. 171 00:09:19,520 --> 00:09:22,079 Speaker 1: And he has an already absolutely massive job trying to 172 00:09:22,120 --> 00:09:25,120 Speaker 1: win support in a very fractured National Assembly to try 173 00:09:25,160 --> 00:09:30,080 Speaker 1: and get budget proposals underway. But the short term challenges 174 00:09:30,080 --> 00:09:32,960 Speaker 1: are going to be around how disruptive this day of 175 00:09:33,040 --> 00:09:35,600 Speaker 1: protest is. It was a movement largely organized on social 176 00:09:35,600 --> 00:09:38,400 Speaker 1: media called Let's Block Everything, and it comes ahead of 177 00:09:38,600 --> 00:09:42,080 Speaker 1: a much briger demonstration organized by the Unions, which is 178 00:09:42,080 --> 00:09:44,080 Speaker 1: happening next week. But both are going to cause use 179 00:09:44,120 --> 00:09:46,720 Speaker 1: disruption to people's everyday life in France. So perhaps not 180 00:09:46,720 --> 00:09:49,680 Speaker 1: the best first day for the new Prime Minister Sebastiana Cornu. 181 00:09:50,360 --> 00:09:55,360 Speaker 2: No, indeed, right, Well, let's discuss then the other stories. 182 00:09:55,440 --> 00:09:59,520 Speaker 2: Our main news item Israel's attack against Hamasin kata, a 183 00:09:59,720 --> 00:10:02,720 Speaker 2: U ally and key mediator in the talks over the 184 00:10:02,720 --> 00:10:06,600 Speaker 2: war in Gaza. It has deeply unnerved the region. Joining 185 00:10:06,640 --> 00:10:09,200 Speaker 2: us now is our Middle East and Africa Managing editor 186 00:10:09,200 --> 00:10:12,000 Speaker 2: Paul Wallace. Paul, good to have you with us. What 187 00:10:12,120 --> 00:10:14,840 Speaker 2: has been the reaction in Kutar to this attack? Do 188 00:10:14,920 --> 00:10:17,160 Speaker 2: you think we should expect a response? 189 00:10:19,600 --> 00:10:24,920 Speaker 3: Hi Hee, Caroline. This attack has been i'd say universally condemned. 190 00:10:24,920 --> 00:10:28,880 Speaker 3: It's hard to find a country that's sticking up for 191 00:10:29,880 --> 00:10:33,040 Speaker 3: Israel in terms of the strike. Even the US is 192 00:10:33,520 --> 00:10:36,920 Speaker 3: making it pretty clear that it was not happy with this. 193 00:10:37,000 --> 00:10:40,839 Speaker 3: It has an outright condemned or criticized Israel or Prime 194 00:10:40,840 --> 00:10:44,880 Speaker 3: Minister Benjamin Nettan Yahoo, but it's made very clear that 195 00:10:44,960 --> 00:10:49,720 Speaker 3: it was unhappy with Israel choosing to launch an air 196 00:10:49,760 --> 00:10:54,080 Speaker 3: strike on Qatar's capital, and it's very awkward for Donald Trump. 197 00:10:53,760 --> 00:10:54,959 Speaker 9: To say the least. 198 00:10:55,679 --> 00:10:58,680 Speaker 3: Saudi Arabia has called it a criminal at the Gas 199 00:10:58,720 --> 00:11:02,160 Speaker 3: states of all sais that this endangers regional security and 200 00:11:02,200 --> 00:11:06,600 Speaker 3: that it's a reckless act. So there's certainly a feeling 201 00:11:06,679 --> 00:11:09,839 Speaker 3: of i'd say, outrage in the region from from among 202 00:11:09,880 --> 00:11:13,920 Speaker 3: a lot of governments and a lot of official officials 203 00:11:13,960 --> 00:11:17,480 Speaker 3: about about what happened yesterday. 204 00:11:18,800 --> 00:11:21,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, indeed, and the effects, as you say, being discussed 205 00:11:21,480 --> 00:11:24,439 Speaker 1: across the region as well. I mean, where does Israel 206 00:11:24,559 --> 00:11:28,680 Speaker 1: go from here after, you know, the sort of ripple 207 00:11:28,720 --> 00:11:30,640 Speaker 1: effects across the region from the strike. 208 00:11:33,200 --> 00:11:34,880 Speaker 3: It's a very good question. We're going to have to 209 00:11:34,920 --> 00:11:37,080 Speaker 3: wait and see. In terms of Caroen what you asked 210 00:11:37,080 --> 00:11:39,320 Speaker 3: about whether there would be a reaction. I think there's 211 00:11:39,360 --> 00:11:41,760 Speaker 3: going to be something. I'm not saying it will be 212 00:11:41,880 --> 00:11:44,800 Speaker 3: a military reaction from Kappa or any of the other 213 00:11:44,840 --> 00:11:48,800 Speaker 3: Gulf states. I really doubt they would even think of 214 00:11:49,480 --> 00:11:53,080 Speaker 3: something like that. But they have leverage in other ways, 215 00:11:53,120 --> 00:11:58,280 Speaker 3: whether it's you know, the financial financial route in terms 216 00:11:58,320 --> 00:12:03,280 Speaker 3: of you know, ending pledges to invest in to invest 217 00:12:03,320 --> 00:12:06,160 Speaker 3: in America. Many of those pledges were only made as 218 00:12:06,200 --> 00:12:08,720 Speaker 3: recently as May when Don Trump flew to you know, 219 00:12:08,760 --> 00:12:11,520 Speaker 3: Saudi Arabia and Qatar and the UAE. And you know 220 00:12:11,600 --> 00:12:15,160 Speaker 3: he wore me embraced Cuto's leader when he was there, 221 00:12:15,960 --> 00:12:16,160 Speaker 3: you know. 222 00:12:16,520 --> 00:12:17,760 Speaker 10: Uh, So there's that. 223 00:12:18,520 --> 00:12:22,760 Speaker 3: There's also you know, the UAE could well reduce what 224 00:12:22,840 --> 00:12:27,440 Speaker 3: ties it has with Israel and reduce sort of contact 225 00:12:27,520 --> 00:12:31,600 Speaker 3: between between officials. I don't think Israel is going to 226 00:12:31,600 --> 00:12:33,920 Speaker 3: be that perturbed by any of that. I'm sure it's 227 00:12:34,600 --> 00:12:37,400 Speaker 3: aware that some of this stuff might happen, and I 228 00:12:37,480 --> 00:12:40,160 Speaker 3: just don't think it cares because from Israel's point of view, 229 00:12:40,160 --> 00:12:43,280 Speaker 3: they said, Hamas officials off a air game wherever they 230 00:12:43,320 --> 00:12:46,760 Speaker 3: are in the world, no matter of their rank. So 231 00:12:46,880 --> 00:12:51,000 Speaker 3: Israel felt that it was it was okay and in 232 00:12:51,040 --> 00:12:53,840 Speaker 3: its national interest to go after that. It did say 233 00:12:53,840 --> 00:12:57,079 Speaker 3: that it was partly a reaction to Monday's attack in 234 00:12:57,200 --> 00:13:02,960 Speaker 3: Jerusalem when a Palestinian gunman killed killed six people. So 235 00:13:03,120 --> 00:13:05,360 Speaker 3: the longest short of it is we will see a 236 00:13:05,400 --> 00:13:08,640 Speaker 3: reaction of some kind. This could be the end of 237 00:13:08,640 --> 00:13:13,480 Speaker 3: the ceasefire walks between Hamas and UH and Israel for 238 00:13:13,760 --> 00:13:16,280 Speaker 3: the time being, they were already stuttering, they were already 239 00:13:16,280 --> 00:13:20,600 Speaker 3: effectively halted. But this could could put a sort of 240 00:13:20,640 --> 00:13:24,480 Speaker 3: formal end to them, and it will have diplomatic repercussions, 241 00:13:24,640 --> 00:13:26,680 Speaker 3: and I guess those will play out in the coming 242 00:13:26,720 --> 00:13:27,720 Speaker 3: weeks and months. 243 00:13:28,320 --> 00:13:30,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, I suppose what does it also mean for the 244 00:13:30,360 --> 00:13:33,920 Speaker 2: war in Gaza for Palestinian people? Are you and body 245 00:13:33,960 --> 00:13:36,520 Speaker 2: declaring a family in parts of the territory? I mean, 246 00:13:36,880 --> 00:13:41,920 Speaker 2: what happens now with that conflict exactly? 247 00:13:42,160 --> 00:13:46,520 Speaker 3: And there are even some Israeli saying this is a 248 00:13:46,559 --> 00:13:49,960 Speaker 3: disaster for the prospects of ending ending the war soon. 249 00:13:50,760 --> 00:13:55,800 Speaker 3: There were some family members of Israeli hostages that are 250 00:13:55,840 --> 00:14:00,200 Speaker 3: still held in Garza really criticizing Ettigno, who lost night 251 00:14:00,520 --> 00:14:03,559 Speaker 3: and late yesterday for this attack and saying that this 252 00:14:03,600 --> 00:14:07,240 Speaker 3: will set back the prospects for a ceasefile into the war. 253 00:14:08,320 --> 00:14:12,760 Speaker 3: It is difficult to say, Nasnel, who himself is arguing 254 00:14:12,840 --> 00:14:15,600 Speaker 3: that this is something that can hasten the end to 255 00:14:15,679 --> 00:14:19,440 Speaker 3: the war. It's difficult to sort of square that with 256 00:14:20,080 --> 00:14:23,480 Speaker 3: the reality right now, because you know, the people that 257 00:14:23,560 --> 00:14:27,200 Speaker 3: Israel targeted these Hamas leaders, a lot of you know, 258 00:14:27,280 --> 00:14:30,520 Speaker 3: they were essentially front and center of these ceasefire talks. 259 00:14:31,360 --> 00:14:35,480 Speaker 3: We you know, the leaders that were targeted don't seem 260 00:14:35,520 --> 00:14:38,240 Speaker 3: to have been killed. Some other people were lower level 261 00:14:38,280 --> 00:14:41,720 Speaker 3: from US officials. But you know, Israel going after those 262 00:14:42,360 --> 00:14:45,480 Speaker 3: those key mediators, you know, it's hard to see how 263 00:14:45,520 --> 00:14:49,840 Speaker 3: that's going to help get how much to the point 264 00:14:49,840 --> 00:14:52,000 Speaker 3: where it surrenders or accepts the cease fire. 265 00:14:52,760 --> 00:14:55,000 Speaker 1: Okay, Paul, thank you very much. Paul Whiles there our 266 00:14:55,040 --> 00:14:59,200 Speaker 1: Middleast Inn Africa Managing editor. Stay with us. More from 267 00:14:59,200 --> 00:15:01,680 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Day Break Europe coming up after this. 268 00:15:02,320 --> 00:15:06,800 Speaker 2: Now it is time to think about another story across 269 00:15:07,000 --> 00:15:11,680 Speaker 2: the US. Apple has launched its new thinner iPhone seventeen Air, 270 00:15:11,800 --> 00:15:14,960 Speaker 2: as well as a number of other products, a story 271 00:15:15,000 --> 00:15:18,360 Speaker 2: that we've been thinking about this after signs of slowing 272 00:15:18,360 --> 00:15:21,640 Speaker 2: demand in recent years for what has been the biggest 273 00:15:21,640 --> 00:15:25,280 Speaker 2: money maker for Apple, the iPhone. Investors were generally underwhelmed, 274 00:15:25,560 --> 00:15:27,960 Speaker 2: Apple's share price falling one and a half percent in 275 00:15:28,000 --> 00:15:31,000 Speaker 2: New York trading. A little earlier, we spoke to Bloomberg's 276 00:15:31,080 --> 00:15:35,760 Speaker 2: consumer Technology managing Edison Mark German, and started by asking him, well, 277 00:15:35,800 --> 00:15:38,560 Speaker 2: of course, for his verdict on the new products. 278 00:15:39,400 --> 00:15:41,680 Speaker 10: I like that they've brought the forty eight megapixel camera 279 00:15:41,800 --> 00:15:44,560 Speaker 10: to the telehotal lens. That's a big improvement in my 280 00:15:44,720 --> 00:15:48,920 Speaker 10: viewpoint for daily photography purposes. I think people are really 281 00:15:48,960 --> 00:15:51,560 Speaker 10: going to like the new design and form factor. One 282 00:15:51,600 --> 00:15:54,400 Speaker 10: thing that I will tell you is that one of 283 00:15:54,440 --> 00:15:57,600 Speaker 10: the flagship features of this new phone is fixing a 284 00:15:57,640 --> 00:16:00,680 Speaker 10: problem they introduced two years ago. They may recall. With 285 00:16:00,720 --> 00:16:04,400 Speaker 10: the fifteen Pro, they moved to a titanium design. You 286 00:16:04,520 --> 00:16:08,080 Speaker 10: have some benefits with titanium, right, durability being one of them. 287 00:16:08,680 --> 00:16:11,600 Speaker 10: But one of the big drawbacks is it doesn't dissipate 288 00:16:11,680 --> 00:16:14,880 Speaker 10: heat as well as aluminum, and so now they're moving 289 00:16:14,920 --> 00:16:18,400 Speaker 10: back to aluminum because the last two models overheated. 290 00:16:19,880 --> 00:16:21,760 Speaker 1: Is it going to be enough to tempt people to 291 00:16:21,840 --> 00:16:24,320 Speaker 1: upgrade their phones the really key question that Apple is 292 00:16:24,360 --> 00:16:28,880 Speaker 1: trying to get that achievement with these new models. 293 00:16:30,440 --> 00:16:35,120 Speaker 10: Oh absolutely. I mean design is what sells new phones, 294 00:16:35,480 --> 00:16:38,440 Speaker 10: right if you're an Apple customer, and I think that 295 00:16:38,520 --> 00:16:41,800 Speaker 10: this is the biggest change to the iPhone in half 296 00:16:41,840 --> 00:16:44,320 Speaker 10: a decade, and so you'll see lines for this thing, 297 00:16:44,360 --> 00:16:48,640 Speaker 10: particularly the Orange Pro. I think the iPhone Air is interesting, 298 00:16:49,200 --> 00:16:53,480 Speaker 10: but it's not practical for the vast, vast, vast vast 299 00:16:53,520 --> 00:16:59,360 Speaker 10: majority of people. Battery life, performance, camera issues, et cetera, 300 00:16:59,440 --> 00:17:01,800 Speaker 10: et cetera. So I think it's really the profones that 301 00:17:01,840 --> 00:17:04,560 Speaker 10: are going to move the needle for Apple this year, 302 00:17:04,800 --> 00:17:07,760 Speaker 10: there's also new Apple Watches, there's new AirPods, and I 303 00:17:07,800 --> 00:17:11,439 Speaker 10: thought they did a good job on the AirPods. I 304 00:17:11,480 --> 00:17:15,200 Speaker 10: thought the new Apple Watches were sort of mediocre updates. 305 00:17:16,240 --> 00:17:19,840 Speaker 2: My main question, as someone who studied languages way back when, 306 00:17:20,440 --> 00:17:23,359 Speaker 2: is that the airports, in a very sort of slick 307 00:17:23,680 --> 00:17:28,600 Speaker 2: presentation that they delivered, showed this idea of simultaneous translation 308 00:17:28,760 --> 00:17:32,200 Speaker 2: for the AirPods. I mean, also, it's had for some 309 00:17:32,280 --> 00:17:35,679 Speaker 2: time the idea of helping people with hearing loss, but 310 00:17:35,760 --> 00:17:39,400 Speaker 2: I thought simultaneous translation in the era of chat GPT 311 00:17:39,520 --> 00:17:43,680 Speaker 2: as well, that seemed really pretty novel. If it really 312 00:17:43,720 --> 00:17:44,320 Speaker 2: works that. 313 00:17:44,240 --> 00:17:47,920 Speaker 10: Way, Yeah, the simultaneous translation is very cool. It does 314 00:17:48,080 --> 00:17:52,040 Speaker 10: work quite well. The only question is and how many 315 00:17:52,040 --> 00:17:54,639 Speaker 10: people are needing to use that feature? 316 00:17:54,760 --> 00:17:54,920 Speaker 2: Right? 317 00:17:54,960 --> 00:17:57,280 Speaker 10: It doesn't seem like a feature that's going to get 318 00:17:57,600 --> 00:18:01,200 Speaker 10: super wide adoption a lot of use. There's not many 319 00:18:01,359 --> 00:18:05,480 Speaker 10: use cases where you would need that translation feature, especially 320 00:18:05,840 --> 00:18:09,639 Speaker 10: when you think about it, You're going with another country, right, 321 00:18:10,119 --> 00:18:11,920 Speaker 10: and how many people are going to run into that 322 00:18:11,960 --> 00:18:14,240 Speaker 10: you need to talk to in their language that already 323 00:18:14,240 --> 00:18:21,000 Speaker 10: have aeropods in their ears. So certainly it's something that 324 00:18:21,760 --> 00:18:24,280 Speaker 10: a lot of people are gonna want to use a demo, 325 00:18:24,520 --> 00:18:26,280 Speaker 10: but maybe not something that's going to be used on 326 00:18:26,320 --> 00:18:30,080 Speaker 10: a daily basis in practice. The heart rate feature is 327 00:18:30,080 --> 00:18:33,760 Speaker 10: pretty cool. They added these to the power Beats in January. 328 00:18:34,280 --> 00:18:36,840 Speaker 10: Now they're bringing them to the Aeropods Pro. It's going 329 00:18:36,920 --> 00:18:38,960 Speaker 10: to get more people on the Apple ecosystem, I think, 330 00:18:39,119 --> 00:18:42,320 Speaker 10: and maybe interest people even and upgrading to Apple Watch 331 00:18:42,400 --> 00:18:44,359 Speaker 10: or fitness subscriptions and what have you. 332 00:18:45,560 --> 00:18:47,320 Speaker 1: I want to come back to the iPhone Air for 333 00:18:47,359 --> 00:18:49,480 Speaker 1: a moment because some of the issues that you flagged 334 00:18:49,480 --> 00:18:52,280 Speaker 1: around it, like things like battery life. Is this a 335 00:18:52,359 --> 00:18:55,760 Speaker 1: first iteration of a product that will evolve and could 336 00:18:55,840 --> 00:18:58,520 Speaker 1: become a much bigger setup for Apple down the line. 337 00:18:59,520 --> 00:19:02,000 Speaker 10: Well, I think about what the MacBook Air was. It 338 00:19:02,080 --> 00:19:05,800 Speaker 10: was a device that started off with mediocre battery life, 339 00:19:06,280 --> 00:19:09,360 Speaker 10: terrible processing power that it was super thin and light 340 00:19:09,400 --> 00:19:12,080 Speaker 10: and marketable. Right, You're going to see the same thing 341 00:19:12,119 --> 00:19:14,280 Speaker 10: happen all iPhones one day are going to be like 342 00:19:14,320 --> 00:19:17,720 Speaker 10: the iPhone Air. The iPhone Air is sort of exactly 343 00:19:17,760 --> 00:19:19,479 Speaker 10: what Apple wants to hit one day. It's just going 344 00:19:19,520 --> 00:19:21,840 Speaker 10: to take a while for them to get the performance 345 00:19:21,840 --> 00:19:24,760 Speaker 10: and the camera technology for a profone in that slim 346 00:19:24,800 --> 00:19:25,639 Speaker 10: down form factor. 347 00:19:26,840 --> 00:19:30,600 Speaker 2: Let's think money. Apple actually called this launch event, they 348 00:19:30,720 --> 00:19:35,600 Speaker 2: named it or dropping. Investors were not particularly impressed. The 349 00:19:35,640 --> 00:19:38,520 Speaker 2: share price of Apple went down just after that presentation. 350 00:19:39,320 --> 00:19:41,280 Speaker 2: And then you also have to think about the flip 351 00:19:41,280 --> 00:19:44,080 Speaker 2: side of that, the price tag of the hardware that 352 00:19:44,160 --> 00:19:46,919 Speaker 2: is on offer. How do you think about it in 353 00:19:47,040 --> 00:19:49,440 Speaker 2: terms of you know the numbers. 354 00:19:50,440 --> 00:19:54,080 Speaker 10: Well, what you got was a silent price hike. So 355 00:19:54,160 --> 00:19:58,400 Speaker 10: instead of hiking prices, the iPhone air came in at 356 00:19:58,520 --> 00:20:01,120 Speaker 10: one thousand US, which is one hundred dollars more than 357 00:20:01,160 --> 00:20:05,640 Speaker 10: the sixteen plus it replaces. And fine. The other thing 358 00:20:05,720 --> 00:20:08,720 Speaker 10: to note is that the fifteen or the seventeen pro 359 00:20:08,800 --> 00:20:12,160 Speaker 10: I should say, comes in at eleven hundred US, that 360 00:20:12,520 --> 00:20:14,240 Speaker 10: is one hundred dollars increase year of a year from 361 00:20:14,240 --> 00:20:17,000 Speaker 10: the sixteen pro. But they are doubling the storage at 362 00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:20,520 Speaker 10: the starting capacity, and so it's basically no price increase. 363 00:20:20,560 --> 00:20:23,359 Speaker 10: That's why I call it a silent price increase. And 364 00:20:23,400 --> 00:20:26,120 Speaker 10: then you have watches and AirPods saying stagnan in terms 365 00:20:26,119 --> 00:20:30,680 Speaker 10: of pricing, the AirPods at to fifty, the watch se 366 00:20:30,680 --> 00:20:35,800 Speaker 10: at two fifty, and so forth. But the big story 367 00:20:35,840 --> 00:20:39,639 Speaker 10: here is that investors really need to reset their expectations. 368 00:20:39,720 --> 00:20:42,600 Speaker 10: I mean, you're not going to see major AI innovation 369 00:20:42,800 --> 00:20:44,760 Speaker 10: for a couple of years from now. You're not going 370 00:20:44,800 --> 00:20:47,440 Speaker 10: to see a big update tail serie until next year. 371 00:20:47,560 --> 00:20:50,960 Speaker 10: And so the question is why are you an Apple stock? 372 00:20:51,040 --> 00:20:53,840 Speaker 10: Don't you understand that Apple's a hardware company and this 373 00:20:53,880 --> 00:20:56,080 Speaker 10: is their hardware showcase and they make their money from 374 00:20:56,119 --> 00:20:59,399 Speaker 10: hardware and what they delivered here. Sure, there's I have 375 00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:03,119 Speaker 10: serious concerns with the iPhone Air. I have criticisms with 376 00:21:03,160 --> 00:21:05,880 Speaker 10: the iPhone promas. I think they could have done more 377 00:21:05,960 --> 00:21:08,320 Speaker 10: on the Apple watches. 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