WEBVTT - How Parental Controls Work

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<v Speaker 1>Brought to you by the reinvented two thousand twelve Camray.

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<v Speaker 1>It's ready. Are you get in touch with technology? With

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<v Speaker 1>tech stuff from how stuff works dot com. Hello, everybody,

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<v Speaker 1>welcome to the podcast. My name is Chris Poulette. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>an editor at how Stuff Works, and today I have

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<v Speaker 1>sitting next to me Jonathan Strickland, one of our writers.

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<v Speaker 1>I suppose I should remove the tape. Yeah, well, I

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<v Speaker 1>was gonna make a great owl sound, but I don't

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<v Speaker 1>even actually have tape. Those That was radio magic or

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<v Speaker 1>podcast magic if you want podcast magic. Well, the reason

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<v Speaker 1>Jonathan sounded muffled up front was because we were talking

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<v Speaker 1>today about parental controls. Yes, although I'm not his parents. No, No,

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<v Speaker 1>let's clear that up right away. No, he is not

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<v Speaker 1>my long last father. My father is is is neither

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<v Speaker 1>long nor lost. He doesn't have to wear a big

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<v Speaker 1>black suit with a mask over his head and wields

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<v Speaker 1>a lightsaber not often, Okay, alright, So anyway, parental controls

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<v Speaker 1>are a subject of much debate simply because you know,

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<v Speaker 1>let's get down in the nitty gradie. It's a form

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<v Speaker 1>of censorship um about which many people, including Jonathan uh

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm probably not gonna sound like, you know, an

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<v Speaker 1>anti censorship person. But I also have two young daughters,

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<v Speaker 1>one of which is uh too young to do any

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<v Speaker 1>more than drool on the keyboard. But you know, recently

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<v Speaker 1>I have a kindergartener who's very computer savvy, and uh

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<v Speaker 1>started thinking about that the other day. Looked at the

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<v Speaker 1>mac os and there's a parental control suite built into

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<v Speaker 1>the operating system. Yes, just like there is for a

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<v Speaker 1>for Microsoft Vista, and uh, these are these are really

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<v Speaker 1>simple uh solutions. You know. It says turn off the

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<v Speaker 1>computer at a certain time on school nights, or only

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<v Speaker 1>allow them to use the computer for and then you

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<v Speaker 1>get it to set half an hour, whole hour, three hours,

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<v Speaker 1>and you get to pick So those kinds of things

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<v Speaker 1>really okay, not censorship, but you do have some control

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<v Speaker 1>over how much time your your child spends using the computer. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>and they're built right into the operating systems, which you know,

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<v Speaker 1>seem pretty cool. Now. They also go farther. You can

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<v Speaker 1>allow them to block uh dirty words in the nictionary

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<v Speaker 1>websites that might be offensive. Of course you're relying on

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<v Speaker 1>somebody else to set those sites up, you know, and say, well, um,

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<v Speaker 1>go ahead, and subscribe to these conventions, so you're sort

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<v Speaker 1>of trusting somebody else to block your your websites for you.

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<v Speaker 1>But um, you know that that's essentially how it works.

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<v Speaker 1>And I thought, well, you know, I would like to

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<v Speaker 1>limit my my kids time on the computer, so I

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<v Speaker 1>set up a basic set of parental controls. UM. So

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<v Speaker 1>I'm so far pretty happy with it. Cool cool, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>back when, uh, back when I was a kid, UM,

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<v Speaker 1>I was fortunate to be part of a LUs hold

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<v Speaker 1>that had computers pretty early on. So I mean even

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<v Speaker 1>when I was I guess about maybe twelve or thirteen,

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<v Speaker 1>we had a computer. This is kind of dating myself

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit, um, but we had, uh, the first

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<v Speaker 1>real computer computer that we had. I'm not going to

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<v Speaker 1>count the Texas instruments and please don't send me mad

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<v Speaker 1>email about that, but it was the Apple to E,

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<v Speaker 1>the Apple to me, and and we had an Apple

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<v Speaker 1>to E. We had several games on it, um, which

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<v Speaker 1>ostensibly were for me, but it was not unusual to

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<v Speaker 1>find that my father playing playing games and beating my

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<v Speaker 1>high scores. Um. But the the real reason we got

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<v Speaker 1>it was because my my father writes novels. So um,

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<v Speaker 1>our parental control system was dad coming into the office

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<v Speaker 1>and kicking me off the computer so that he could

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<v Speaker 1>write the next chapter of his book, which was you

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<v Speaker 1>know necessary because in order to supplement his income and

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<v Speaker 1>pay for my education and everything along those lines and

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<v Speaker 1>those of my sister, you know, he kind of had to.

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<v Speaker 1>So that was the old style of rental control where

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<v Speaker 1>it was very much hands on. But yeah, today, when

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<v Speaker 1>you've got kids who have their own computers now or

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<v Speaker 1>their own phone lines, I mean you've got a lot

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<v Speaker 1>more technology available, and some of it geared specifically towards children. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>you really have to take these other things into consideration.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not like, you know, we can only afford one

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<v Speaker 1>machine for the entire house now. Um, you know, the

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<v Speaker 1>prices have dropped so much that it's not a luxury

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<v Speaker 1>item anymore. Um, not for a lot of families anyways.

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<v Speaker 1>For some families, yes it still is. But for many families,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it's not unusual to find three or four

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<v Speaker 1>computers in the household. So in that case, you can't

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<v Speaker 1>really just you know what, pop your head in every

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<v Speaker 1>five minutes and make sure that your kids not jumping

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<v Speaker 1>back online to to check out the internet. It's it's

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<v Speaker 1>not really practical. So and I can I can begrudgingly

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<v Speaker 1>agree that these are unnecessary. Uh has died to use

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<v Speaker 1>the word eve, But they are necessary um in many cases.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh yeah, well see they they actually hurt me a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit. Yeah, I'm sure it did. I'm sure it did.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course, parental controls don't go only, they don't stop

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<v Speaker 1>at the edge of your computer screen. There are also other,

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<v Speaker 1>many other screens that you'll find parental controls on, like

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<v Speaker 1>your TV, the beachip which is built in actually to

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<v Speaker 1>the TV itself, which is supposed to UM allow the

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<v Speaker 1>rating system to sort of help you control what can

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<v Speaker 1>and can't be seen. Um. But you know, you'll also

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<v Speaker 1>find it on a lot of set top boxes, like

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<v Speaker 1>a cable or satellite subscriber. You'll um in many cases

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<v Speaker 1>find that there's some way to knock out certain channels. Uh. Personally,

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<v Speaker 1>I like doing that with the shopping channels. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I put a little password in there because I, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't really want to watch them. Um. Well, and

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<v Speaker 1>and really technology has become so pervasive that it's it's

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<v Speaker 1>that's pretty much why you need these things. So kind

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<v Speaker 1>of let's let's go back to the computer one for

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<v Speaker 1>a bit, because I did write an article that that

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<v Speaker 1>that dovetail tails into this conversation. UM. It's not directly relevant,

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<v Speaker 1>but UM tangentially, I suppose, which was about Internet censorship

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<v Speaker 1>and UM. One of the big problems are that that

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<v Speaker 1>advocacy groups have, with privacy advocacy groups and and and

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<v Speaker 1>UM and free speech advocacy groups have with these kind

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<v Speaker 1>of UH solutions is that they're not the most elegant

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<v Speaker 1>or accurate UM ways to prevent people from seeing certain sites.

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of them depend on UM blacklists. So in

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<v Speaker 1>that case, like Chris was saying earlier, you're depending on

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<v Speaker 1>someone else saying this site is inappropriate for people to

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<v Speaker 1>look at at work or for children to have access

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<v Speaker 1>to UM. And so that's just a list of websites

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<v Speaker 1>that that someone else somewhere has determined are not appropriate

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<v Speaker 1>for you or your your kids to look at. But

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<v Speaker 1>in other cases they use keyword blocking, so it's kind

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<v Speaker 1>of like a search engine. You know. Search engines will

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<v Speaker 1>often UH scour a website and and categorize it by

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<v Speaker 1>the keywords that are on there. So when you do

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<v Speaker 1>a search for that keyword term, that's how they pop

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<v Speaker 1>up well, the same sort of thing for these parental controls.

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<v Speaker 1>They search for a database of keywords, and if those

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<v Speaker 1>keywords show up or phrases in some cases UM, that

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<v Speaker 1>site will automatically get blocked by the software. And the

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<v Speaker 1>problem is that it doesn't always block the appropriate site.

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<v Speaker 1>Sometimes it blocks stuff that really you should have access to. UM.

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<v Speaker 1>I have a I have friends who work at the

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<v Speaker 1>Center for Disease Control and some of them work in

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<v Speaker 1>uh in realms which require them to do research on

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<v Speaker 1>things like sexually transmitted diseases. But with certain software blocking

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<v Speaker 1>applications on their are website blocking applications, they can't go

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<v Speaker 1>to the sites they need to go to to do

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<v Speaker 1>research because they these keywords are popping up and that

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<v Speaker 1>the information is being blocked. So there are times where

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<v Speaker 1>this can really prevent you from from even doing your

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<v Speaker 1>job right. So that's kind of uh that's that's why

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<v Speaker 1>I look at this is sort of a downside in

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<v Speaker 1>many ways. Now, when you're talking about kids, it's a

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<v Speaker 1>different it's a different matter altogether. But the problem is

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<v Speaker 1>that these these parental controls aren't being applied just by

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<v Speaker 1>parents too kids. They're being applied by by companies to

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<v Speaker 1>employees or in some cases by governments to citizens. True enough,

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<v Speaker 1>there are instances even of I s p s Internet

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<v Speaker 1>service providers who are filtering content that comes into UH

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<v Speaker 1>into homes based on their content for you know, actually

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<v Speaker 1>have heard of politic coal content being censored. UM. And

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<v Speaker 1>we're just talking about in the United States. Of course,

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<v Speaker 1>there are other places like China who are famous where

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<v Speaker 1>you know, they're famous for blocking large, large volumes of

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<v Speaker 1>content on the Internet, and Cuba, which has its own

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<v Speaker 1>intranet which acts like an Internet but is really all

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<v Speaker 1>self contained. It doesn't really access anything to the outside,

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<v Speaker 1>so it really insulates the citizens. That's true. It's one

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<v Speaker 1>of those things to UH that people try to use

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<v Speaker 1>it for uh. You know, applications such as libraries, public

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<v Speaker 1>libraries where um you know, in this case, you wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to shut down at a certain point to uh to

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<v Speaker 1>log off all the computers in the library. But um,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, there is a big debate in many library

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<v Speaker 1>circles UM over whether or not it is a good

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<v Speaker 1>idea or a bad idea to UH to allow censorship.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course, you don't want uh. Your child is working

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<v Speaker 1>on a term paper, UM for a class, you don't

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<v Speaker 1>want somebody surfing the internet for for porn right next

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<v Speaker 1>to them. But at the same time, you know, is

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<v Speaker 1>it right? You know, one of the central tenants to

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<v Speaker 1>UH to the American Library Association's uh you know code

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<v Speaker 1>is that you're supposed to open these channels and and

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<v Speaker 1>fight censorship and all fronts. I know this because I'm

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<v Speaker 1>pursuing my degree in library and information sciences. So this

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<v Speaker 1>is a topic We've talked about a lot lately, but um,

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<v Speaker 1>it is. It is one of those things where they

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<v Speaker 1>you know, there are people fighting on both sides of it.

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<v Speaker 1>They see a reason for it. But you know, for

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<v Speaker 1>as far as the kids are concerned, but as far

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<v Speaker 1>as adults are concerned, do you apply the same rules

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<v Speaker 1>and in what way? Right? It's difficult? Yeah? Yeah. Do

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<v Speaker 1>you put a do you have a separate section in

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<v Speaker 1>the library? I mean, and if actually does that, does

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<v Speaker 1>that is that inappropriate in the way because it casts

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<v Speaker 1>a certain light on the people who go in there.

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<v Speaker 1>One of the one of the most popular ways of

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<v Speaker 1>handling it is to notify the library customer that they

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<v Speaker 1>are being they are not using a filtered internet connection,

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<v Speaker 1>and to offer an unfiltered internet connection to that person,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, as an alternative, it's like, well, here it is.

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<v Speaker 1>You know. Of course they also risk losing federal funding

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<v Speaker 1>for these projects because that's part of the legislation. And

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<v Speaker 1>and this is you know, it's just gonna get more complicated.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not gonna get uh easy. You know, it's not

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<v Speaker 1>gonna there there's no easy answers to this, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>not gonna you know, there's no solutions gonna pop up

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<v Speaker 1>in the next thirty seconds or something. I mean, you're

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<v Speaker 1>hearing the latest news I've heard about. This is for

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<v Speaker 1>airlines that are considering, you know that they're starting to

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<v Speaker 1>use um, I'm starting to WiFi enable right in flight

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<v Speaker 1>Internet that have WiFi enabled uh um in flight services,

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<v Speaker 1>so you pay to have access to the internet and

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<v Speaker 1>you can surf the web on your laptop in flight

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<v Speaker 1>for a fee. UM. And there are people they're both customers.

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<v Speaker 1>There are airline personnel like like flight attendants and even

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<v Speaker 1>pilots who are all concerned about whether or not they

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<v Speaker 1>should put in filters to block people from surfing for

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<v Speaker 1>porn on an airplane flight. Right, And I mean that

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<v Speaker 1>that's definitely one of those situations where you're you're thinking, really,

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<v Speaker 1>why would you want to You're sitting next to perfect strangers.

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<v Speaker 1>And I've heard arguments about this. I've heard arguments that say, well,

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<v Speaker 1>why would you look on someone else's screen? Well, it's

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<v Speaker 1>in your field of vision. I mean, you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know about you, but my my vision does extend

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<v Speaker 1>beyond directly straight in front of me, and the way

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<v Speaker 1>the way you're sitting in an airplane. Let mean, if

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<v Speaker 1>you're in coach, I mean you know, you're your elbows

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<v Speaker 1>are and sticking in the ribs of the person next

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<v Speaker 1>to you. There's not a whole lot of space there. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>if you think about it. The one of the biggest

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<v Speaker 1>arguments that I've heard for people who do not want

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<v Speaker 1>airlines to allow cell phone use is they don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to hear everybody else talking. No, I don't having their

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<v Speaker 1>personal phone conversations. Well, why would you want to? You know,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll give that some credit. You know, you're a captive

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<v Speaker 1>audience for your four hour flight. You have to sit

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<v Speaker 1>next to this person in very close proximity. If you

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to flight, you can't switch seats or anything like. Yeah, So,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I don't really want to watch somebody sir,

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<v Speaker 1>for porn, you know, sitting right next to them and

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<v Speaker 1>coach and I want to but no, particularly not when

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<v Speaker 1>you're a captive audience strapped into a seat at thirty

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<v Speaker 1>thou feet that that definitely does not have appeal to me.

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<v Speaker 1>And I've heard suggestions, perhaps tongue in cheek for solutions

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<v Speaker 1>like having the curtained off area in the back of

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<v Speaker 1>the plane so you can just have the porn section.

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<v Speaker 1>And just do we really need to turn airplanes into

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<v Speaker 1>that kind of environment. I mean, we used to have

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<v Speaker 1>the smoking sections, which, depending on your point of view,

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<v Speaker 1>we're bad enough. From my own point of view, definitely

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<v Speaker 1>bad enough, so I'm glad those are gone. But I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>it's just such a kin of worms um and and

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<v Speaker 1>even though I am vehemently anti censorship, I guess it's

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<v Speaker 1>one of those things where it's okay as long as

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<v Speaker 1>it doesn't impact me, because I can I can definitely

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<v Speaker 1>say that if I were sitting next to someone and

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<v Speaker 1>they were looking at inappropriate material, however you may define that,

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<v Speaker 1>it would definitely make me uncomfortable. And I mean it

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<v Speaker 1>just seems wildly inappropriate. You you you would hope people

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<v Speaker 1>would use their individual judgment and come to the conclusion of, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>this is something I should only look at in the

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<v Speaker 1>privacy of my own home, bathroom, closet, whatever, um, and

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<v Speaker 1>not on a seven thirty seven going on a transatlantic flight.

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<v Speaker 1>You know. But you can't necessarily trust that people will

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<v Speaker 1>do that. So that's where the kind of worms comes in.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's what I think I'm going to have to

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<v Speaker 1>do eventually with my kids. Um. You know, they're, at

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<v Speaker 1>least as far as I can tell, um, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>pretty smart kids, and they're gonna have to you know,

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<v Speaker 1>they're gonna be able to get around a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>the paroun controls I could set up for them. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>they'll find some way to do it, because you know

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<v Speaker 1>that's the kids are smart and uh you know, and

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<v Speaker 1>they soak up information so quickly, see as fast as

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<v Speaker 1>we come put up barriers that are gonna know ways

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<v Speaker 1>around them. It's kind of it's it's both admirable and scary.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes it is. And you know, I think I think

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<v Speaker 1>you're right. I think what it comes down to is

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<v Speaker 1>educating people and saying, look, you know this isn't appropriate

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<v Speaker 1>at this time. You don't want to do this in

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<v Speaker 1>front of all these people. You don't want to expose

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<v Speaker 1>people to things that you wouldn't want to be exposed to,

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<v Speaker 1>and here's why. And you have to uh to get

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<v Speaker 1>in there and explain what it is, what's going on,

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<v Speaker 1>and say, you know, you're gonna have to use your judgment. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so we're getting back to the old parental control. Exactly interesting, right,

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<v Speaker 1>You can't just solely depend upon technology. Although technology can

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<v Speaker 1>certainly help you out, you can't. You can't depend on

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<v Speaker 1>that as the the cure all solution. Um. Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 1>you've got to hope that we don't have too many

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<v Speaker 1>Andy Kaufman's out there, because those are the exactly the

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<v Speaker 1>kind of people who would want to push your buttons

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<v Speaker 1>and do what you're not supposed to do in public

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<v Speaker 1>just to see how people react. And there's always going

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<v Speaker 1>to be those people, but hopefully they'll be in the minority. Well.

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