WEBVTT - Analyzing Latest Developments of Free Agency | Jaguars Happy Hour 0:00:03.560 --> 0:00:06.439 It is Thursday, March fourteen. 0:00:07.400 --> 0:00:10.000 This is Jaguars Happy Hour. 0:00:11.880 --> 0:00:14.880 Jaguar's Happy Hour is presented by the Saint John's River 0:00:15.040 --> 0:00:21.000 Water Management District. And now, ladies and gentlemen, hide your 0:00:21.040 --> 0:00:24.960 Snickers bars. It's TV's Kai Stevens. 0:00:25.720 --> 0:00:27.760 Oh, I wish there were Snickers bars that came with 0:00:27.800 --> 0:00:31.640 this job. Snickers Over in the other field training camp 0:00:31.640 --> 0:00:33.720 they bring out ice cream snickers for all the players 0:00:33.800 --> 0:00:36.120 during training camp. And yes, I do partake in that. 0:00:36.760 --> 0:00:39.680 Kay Stevens filling in for J. P. Shadwick. Jeff Logoman 0:00:39.720 --> 0:00:41.640 not in as well. So I have some guests with 0:00:41.680 --> 0:00:44.400 me today. But it's a big day here in Jacksonville. 0:00:44.440 --> 0:00:46.959 We've got all these new faces coming in a bit 0:00:46.960 --> 0:00:48.760 of a carousel of everybody. We've got to meet all 0:00:48.760 --> 0:00:50.440 these new players today. It's exciting time. 0:00:50.760 --> 0:00:51.600 Can John sit down? 0:00:52.080 --> 0:00:54.160 John Oser is joining us up to the minute. 0:00:53.960 --> 0:00:55.040 Right to make sure it was good with you. 0:00:55.080 --> 0:00:57.560 I do appreciate that Bran Sexton is also with us today. 0:00:57.720 --> 0:00:59.000 Worried about him standing over there. 0:00:59.040 --> 0:01:00.720 I know. I don't want him to feel left out. 0:01:01.240 --> 0:01:02.920 It's a busy day, I mean it's for sure. When 0:01:02.920 --> 0:01:05.240 they get these guys in here, they meet with the coaches, 0:01:05.319 --> 0:01:08.360 they take the photos, they meet with the media. It's 0:01:08.360 --> 0:01:09.240 a whirlwind for them. 0:01:09.600 --> 0:01:12.000 It is, John, thank you for joining us. We're here 0:01:12.000 --> 0:01:13.840 on Happy Hour, of course, brought to you by Saint 0:01:13.920 --> 0:01:17.679 John's River Water Management District, Florida's water it's worth saving. 0:01:18.000 --> 0:01:18.200 John. 0:01:18.240 --> 0:01:20.640 We were just talking about all these carousel we've been 0:01:20.640 --> 0:01:23.520 going through with people, right, So we've had five different 0:01:23.520 --> 0:01:26.840 players coming in and four were signed free agents, and 0:01:26.880 --> 0:01:29.080 then of course Mac Jones that was traded for that 0:01:29.120 --> 0:01:32.760 one official this afternoon. So it's exciting to see all 0:01:32.760 --> 0:01:35.280 these new faces coming to town and potentially more things happening. 0:01:35.400 --> 0:01:37.520 Yeah, and we had Mitch Morse yesterday, and I think 0:01:38.120 --> 0:01:43.800 collectively you got an idea that they're all impressive. They 0:01:43.880 --> 0:01:49.559 all seem to have pretty solid leadership qualities. And Gabe 0:01:49.640 --> 0:01:53.480 Davis was a captain this year for the Bills and 0:01:53.760 --> 0:01:56.639 other players who have that feel. 0:01:57.000 --> 0:01:58.520 Mitch Moore certainly has that feel. 0:01:58.640 --> 0:02:02.760 So you know, look, I'm not sure that this is 0:02:02.800 --> 0:02:05.280 the most high profile group of freegens they've ever had, 0:02:05.800 --> 0:02:08.880 but I think it fits what they needed to do, 0:02:09.040 --> 0:02:11.920 and I think it fit what they could do within 0:02:11.960 --> 0:02:16.320 the cap constraints. And they all make sense, which to 0:02:16.360 --> 0:02:19.280 me is the first step. I'm sort of past the point, Brian, 0:02:19.280 --> 0:02:23.520 where I'm gonna get cartwheel excited over the free agency class. 0:02:23.560 --> 0:02:25.560 But I think these guys make sense for what they're 0:02:25.560 --> 0:02:26.359 trying to do. Well. 0:02:26.400 --> 0:02:29.240 They spent one hundred and seventy five million dollars, set 0:02:29.280 --> 0:02:32.320 a new league record a few years back. Right, they 0:02:32.320 --> 0:02:34.440 didn't have that kind of money. They couldn't go and 0:02:34.480 --> 0:02:36.960 play in the high dollar free agency. It wasn't going 0:02:37.000 --> 0:02:40.320 to be the glitzy, glamorous class. I think we all 0:02:40.360 --> 0:02:42.600 agreed that the More signing was the one that we 0:02:42.600 --> 0:02:46.400 were all most excited about because it was such a glaring. 0:02:46.080 --> 0:02:47.800 Need, huge for the team. 0:02:47.880 --> 0:02:51.919 Yes, they they lacked the ability to convert third down 0:02:51.919 --> 0:02:54.680 and short. Right, they lacked the ability to be consistent 0:02:54.720 --> 0:02:56.840 with the running game up the middle, and it hampered 0:02:56.880 --> 0:02:58.720 their offense. You could see the way the teams defended 0:02:58.720 --> 0:03:00.480 them as they figured out they're not going to be 0:03:00.480 --> 0:03:02.480 able to move the ball on us in the A gaps. 0:03:02.520 --> 0:03:03.360 And I'll interrupt here. 0:03:03.840 --> 0:03:07.000 Ian Rappaport is reporting that Eric Armstead is close to 0:03:07.000 --> 0:03:09.880 a deal with the Jaguars, So we don't know that officially. 0:03:10.000 --> 0:03:11.440 We love some breaking reports. 0:03:11.840 --> 0:03:16.440 That's uh, you know, wrap is pretty good what he does. Listen, 0:03:17.080 --> 0:03:22.560 and that's size in the middles making out Yeah, six seven, 0:03:22.600 --> 0:03:24.600 he's a two hundred ninety five pound guy, an area 0:03:24.639 --> 0:03:25.680 that they need to be stouter. 0:03:25.919 --> 0:03:27.880 Here's a question, how in the world are they getting 0:03:27.880 --> 0:03:28.760 it done? Right? 0:03:29.000 --> 0:03:31.720 If they sign it and it's a witchcraft, Well look. 0:03:31.760 --> 0:03:34.000 I have to know math Brian stop bringing us down, 0:03:34.040 --> 0:03:34.399 all right? 0:03:34.560 --> 0:03:36.840 Well, I don't want to just I'm just curious. You know, 0:03:36.920 --> 0:03:39.320 if they're going to sign Eric Armstead, who's going right, 0:03:39.600 --> 0:03:41.760 You've got three point eight million dollars in salary cap 0:03:41.800 --> 0:03:43.800 from I'm using spot track by the way, right, some 0:03:43.840 --> 0:03:46.240 people use over the cap. I use spot track and 0:03:46.480 --> 0:03:50.200 they're roughly in the ballpark. So there's some magic being done. 0:03:50.240 --> 0:03:52.520 I mean, there's some numbers being crunched. There's a strategy 0:03:52.560 --> 0:03:55.320 behind it, because if you're bringing in Eric Armstead, you 0:03:55.400 --> 0:03:57.520 have got to find the money somewhere. There's a there's 0:03:57.600 --> 0:04:01.400 a precious few places to create cap room on this 0:04:01.520 --> 0:04:04.440 roster right now. Right, we've talked about Cam Robinson has 0:04:04.480 --> 0:04:06.960 won because he gives you about seventeen million dollars in 0:04:07.000 --> 0:04:09.760 cap savings. Foyer Lui constant other he gives you about 0:04:09.800 --> 0:04:13.480 seven million dollars, say Jones gives you about four and 0:04:13.520 --> 0:04:16.040 then it dries up pretty quickly. You know, the guys 0:04:16.120 --> 0:04:17.800 we're talking about who have any cap savings at all 0:04:17.800 --> 0:04:21.440 aren't guys you're gonna cut. So it's interesting to see 0:04:21.960 --> 0:04:25.200 them still being very active with very little room. 0:04:25.839 --> 0:04:27.920 I will say we do have to address yesterday. They 0:04:27.920 --> 0:04:31.040 saved some money because they did not re sign Calvin Ridley. 0:04:31.600 --> 0:04:34.599 He is going to the Titans reportedly, and there's big 0:04:34.640 --> 0:04:37.200 money going to him there, so I mean, good for him. 0:04:37.080 --> 0:04:38.680 Earning also twenty three million years. 0:04:38.720 --> 0:04:42.080 What he got fifty guaranteed ninety two over four years. 0:04:42.600 --> 0:04:45.520 Is the reports, which here's the fifty guarantee. How do 0:04:45.520 --> 0:04:46.240 you say no to that? 0:04:46.520 --> 0:04:48.760 Well, how do you say no to it? And if 0:04:48.760 --> 0:04:51.000 you're the Jags, how do you go that way? 0:04:51.040 --> 0:04:51.360 You don't. 0:04:51.720 --> 0:04:53.840 I think people would be upset if the team did. 0:04:53.880 --> 0:04:54.840 Yeah, well, they would certainly be. 0:04:54.880 --> 0:04:56.719 U said in a couple of years when it completely 0:04:56.760 --> 0:05:00.040 hampered you with the cap. And you know, look, I 0:05:00.160 --> 0:05:03.160 all off season and I wrote off season, I think 0:05:03.200 --> 0:05:06.719 Calvin Ridley on this roster would have been good. I 0:05:06.839 --> 0:05:09.400 don't know that it would have been good to the 0:05:09.440 --> 0:05:15.000 tune of building your salary cap structure around him at 0:05:15.040 --> 0:05:17.320 the expense of other things. And that's what fifty million 0:05:17.320 --> 0:05:18.200 guarantee would have done. 0:05:18.240 --> 0:05:20.800 You know, my sense of people's opinion of Calvin Ridley 0:05:21.240 --> 0:05:23.680 was based on hope. Kai. There were a lot of 0:05:23.680 --> 0:05:25.400 people that I've talked to in the last few days, 0:05:25.680 --> 0:05:27.679 whether it's in line of publics or out at the beach, 0:05:27.720 --> 0:05:31.640 where they hoped that another year in the system, another 0:05:31.760 --> 0:05:34.920 year working with Trevor would get the Calvin Ridley that 0:05:34.960 --> 0:05:38.080 we all had hoped we would see this year, you know, 0:05:38.320 --> 0:05:41.600 twelve hundred thirteen hundred yards, ten touchdowns. We didn't see that. 0:05:41.920 --> 0:05:44.080 So going forward, it I just don't think you could 0:05:44.080 --> 0:05:47.480 guarantee fifty million dollars on hope. And it just doesn't 0:05:47.480 --> 0:05:49.839 make sense for a franchise that has to get something 0:05:49.880 --> 0:05:53.080 done with Josh, that has to get something done with Trevor, 0:05:53.480 --> 0:05:56.400 that may want to get something done with Tyson Campbell 0:05:56.440 --> 0:05:58.760 next year if he comes back healthy and has the 0:05:58.800 --> 0:06:02.400 big year this year, a thirty year old receiver that, 0:06:03.040 --> 0:06:05.800 let's be honest, in a contract year, couldn't figure out 0:06:05.800 --> 0:06:08.040 where he was supposed to be on many routes right, 0:06:09.000 --> 0:06:10.720 That didn't make any sense to me. And by the way, 0:06:10.720 --> 0:06:13.040 now he's going to Tennessee and he's going to run 0:06:13.080 --> 0:06:16.479 imprecise routes for quarterback who isn't very accurate. Good luck 0:06:16.480 --> 0:06:16.680 with that. 0:06:17.160 --> 0:06:19.039 It would be interesting. I mean, that is a huge 0:06:19.080 --> 0:06:21.039 amount of money. I think I was upset when I 0:06:21.040 --> 0:06:23.000 first heard it. Of course, no one wants to see, 0:06:23.120 --> 0:06:25.240 you know, a Jaguargo play for the Titans. Nobody likes that. 0:06:25.279 --> 0:06:27.000 When we see the numbers, you're like, ah, it would 0:06:27.000 --> 0:06:29.560 not have been super excited if Trent Balke went that 0:06:29.640 --> 0:06:33.719 route right with fifty million guaranteed. But it does you know, now, 0:06:33.800 --> 0:06:36.120 where's the wide receiver room going? John? Does this mean 0:06:36.200 --> 0:06:39.560 maybe they're focusing on somebody else that we're unaware of, 0:06:39.600 --> 0:06:40.839 or are they going to run with what they have? 0:06:40.920 --> 0:06:41.520 How do you see it? 0:06:41.640 --> 0:06:44.560 Unfildin, I think they put themselves in good situation going 0:06:44.640 --> 0:06:48.480 in in this sense, it may take me a while 0:06:48.480 --> 0:06:51.640 to get to this point. In twenty twenty two, they 0:06:51.640 --> 0:06:54.520 were a good receiving corps that made the postseason. You 0:06:54.520 --> 0:06:58.320 felt great about at the end with Zay Jones, Christian Kirk, 0:06:58.320 --> 0:07:03.240 Evan Ingram, and Marvin Jones. They were essentially the same 0:07:03.400 --> 0:07:07.479 offense last year, adding Ridley and removing Marvin Jones. And 0:07:07.560 --> 0:07:09.080 he said, well, they were worse last year, but they 0:07:09.080 --> 0:07:11.840 really weren't worse offensively last year. They were about the 0:07:11.880 --> 0:07:14.160 same numbers wise, And then they dipped a little bit 0:07:15.080 --> 0:07:19.600 once Trevor and Christian got hurt. They set themselves up 0:07:19.640 --> 0:07:23.520 by signing Gabe Davis with having a cord next year. 0:07:23.840 --> 0:07:27.840 Minimum that's going to be Davis, Zay Jones, Christian Kirk 0:07:27.880 --> 0:07:32.400 and e An Inger. Well, that's not significantly different. You're 0:07:32.440 --> 0:07:37.560 plugging Gabe Davis in for Marvin Jones, right. You know, 0:07:39.600 --> 0:07:43.960 Marvin may run a little bit more precise routes and 0:07:44.000 --> 0:07:46.800 be a little more veteran dependable guy, but Gabe gives 0:07:46.800 --> 0:07:50.440 you big play guy. So if they stick with these four, 0:07:51.440 --> 0:07:55.600 then I think they left themselves a situation where these 0:07:55.640 --> 0:07:56.880 four can go win in the NFL. 0:07:57.040 --> 0:07:58.600 Sure, and they had a chance. 0:07:58.640 --> 0:08:01.000 I think Zay would have been gone had had Calvin 0:08:01.000 --> 0:08:05.360 Ben signed. So you're upgrading that a little bit, maybe 0:08:05.400 --> 0:08:08.280 with Ridley over Za, But to me, the whole key, 0:08:08.600 --> 0:08:12.160 if it's these four, the key to me is can 0:08:12.200 --> 0:08:15.560 they give you sixty total games? Can they be healthy, 0:08:16.040 --> 0:08:18.400 because that's what really took the receiving core down last 0:08:18.480 --> 0:08:20.880 year Isay being out nine and Christian being out five. 0:08:21.040 --> 0:08:24.320 You just compared Ridley to say, let's compare Ridley to 0:08:24.440 --> 0:08:28.520 Gabe Davis. Right, So Ridley obviously has had big seasons 0:08:28.680 --> 0:08:32.160 thousand yard seasons and gave Davis has not. But he 0:08:32.200 --> 0:08:35.560 has twenty seven touchdowns in four years, plus five more 0:08:36.040 --> 0:08:39.440 that he scored in the playoffs. So he's a proven commodity. 0:08:39.920 --> 0:08:42.920 And the term that was used about him that I've 0:08:42.960 --> 0:08:45.360 heard is he's a deep ball guy who can go 0:08:45.400 --> 0:08:47.840 and get it right. He's more of a perimeter guy, 0:08:48.880 --> 0:08:51.080 you know, sideline fifty to fifty bowl kind of guy. 0:08:51.960 --> 0:08:54.600 How much This isn't the right way to phrase it, 0:08:54.640 --> 0:08:58.400 but where are you in that comparison? Do you gain 0:08:58.400 --> 0:09:01.160 anything or do you lose something when you put Davis 0:09:01.200 --> 0:09:02.840 in the line up instead of Ridley? How much? 0:09:04.040 --> 0:09:04.280 Yeah? 0:09:04.280 --> 0:09:09.880 I mean, it's uh, you know, realistic. 0:09:09.920 --> 0:09:11.800 I'd say probably a little bit if you if you 0:09:11.840 --> 0:09:13.199 told me I had to have one or the other 0:09:13.720 --> 0:09:18.839 and it was specials. Yeah, So I'm not gonna be 0:09:18.880 --> 0:09:21.840 disingenuous and say I wouldn't want really on the team. 0:09:21.880 --> 0:09:23.319 I guess what I'm just saying is that I don't 0:09:23.320 --> 0:09:24.600 think the gap is as big as you might. 0:09:24.679 --> 0:09:24.800 Right. 0:09:25.080 --> 0:09:33.199 It's in this offense. History is shown in Philadelphia when 0:09:33.200 --> 0:09:34.560 they won in twenty seventeen. 0:09:34.600 --> 0:09:35.959 Was there a go to guy? Not really. 0:09:37.559 --> 0:09:40.400 The other comparison is always the Chiefs once less, you know, 0:09:41.080 --> 0:09:43.960 kill a go to guy, But over time that offense 0:09:44.000 --> 0:09:45.240 has always worked without. 0:09:45.000 --> 0:09:46.680 A go to guy. The go to guy was the 0:09:46.720 --> 0:09:47.120 tight end. 0:09:47.360 --> 0:09:51.960 Yeah, so you know it, it can work like this. 0:09:53.240 --> 0:09:55.199 And the whole key to the thing is can they 0:09:55.600 --> 0:09:58.800 interior run block better? Can they keep Trevor healthy? And 0:09:58.840 --> 0:10:02.439 can Trevor reduce the turnovers? No matter what we're doing 0:10:02.480 --> 0:10:04.200 right now, those are still the three storylines to me. 0:10:04.480 --> 0:10:06.520 And I think that's It's a great point you bring up, John, 0:10:06.559 --> 0:10:08.240 because in this day and age, do you need a 0:10:08.240 --> 0:10:10.080 star receiver necessarily to win a Super Bowl? 0:10:10.160 --> 0:10:10.600 You don't. 0:10:10.679 --> 0:10:13.040 Probably you can get by with a bunch of twos 0:10:13.160 --> 0:10:14.880 or whatever it is, but your quarterback does have to 0:10:14.880 --> 0:10:15.560 step up their play. 0:10:15.640 --> 0:10:15.720 Right. 0:10:15.760 --> 0:10:18.160 We need to see Trevor take it to that point 0:10:18.320 --> 0:10:20.560 where he's carrying the team along, and we've yet to 0:10:20.559 --> 0:10:22.559 see that at this point. So it'll be up to 0:10:22.640 --> 0:10:25.000 him to do that. We don't know if he'll they'll 0:10:25.000 --> 0:10:27.240 add to the wide receiver room from today or if 0:10:27.240 --> 0:10:28.160 they'll run with what they have. 0:10:28.320 --> 0:10:31.199 Well, they've got what eight draft picks now after sending 0:10:31.240 --> 0:10:34.360 the sixth round pick to the Patriots, and it's a 0:10:34.360 --> 0:10:37.400 deep draft for wide receivers. I mean that, by the way, 0:10:37.440 --> 0:10:39.880 you can repeat every year for reasons that we're elaborated on. 0:10:40.280 --> 0:10:41.280 That's now what they do. 0:10:42.120 --> 0:10:45.360 Will they find one? Though? Is the question to identify someone? 0:10:45.480 --> 0:10:47.400 And you're absolutely right that is because it's a lot 0:10:47.440 --> 0:10:49.840 easier said than done to find no wide receiver. 0:10:49.880 --> 0:10:53.360 Sever here's the guy who was the go to guy 0:10:53.480 --> 0:10:57.160 for the Eagles in seventeen, and it was Alshon Jeffrey, 0:10:57.400 --> 0:11:00.720 who is very much like Gabe Davis, big guy who 0:11:00.720 --> 0:11:04.679 can work the chains and keep you on track, keep 0:11:04.720 --> 0:11:08.160 you on target a midway. I didn't want to suggest 0:11:08.280 --> 0:11:11.280 that he couldn't cool over the middle. It's just when 0:11:11.320 --> 0:11:13.079 you watch the routes that he ran. 0:11:13.200 --> 0:11:14.640 How he's been used so far, Yeah. 0:11:14.520 --> 0:11:16.319 Right, and Buffalo used him as a down the field 0:11:16.400 --> 0:11:19.720 kind of guy. He was offsetting Stefan Diggs. But when 0:11:19.720 --> 0:11:22.360 I look at the body style, yeah, he and Alshon Jeffrey, 0:11:22.400 --> 0:11:24.480 who was kind of the pivot man, especially down the 0:11:24.520 --> 0:11:27.480 stretch for the Eagles in twenty seventeen, are very similar guys. 0:11:27.800 --> 0:11:29.640 That's important because they struggled so much on third down. 0:11:29.679 --> 0:11:31.600 We harped on that pretty much every week this season. 0:11:31.600 --> 0:11:33.079 That was an issue for them is kind of keep 0:11:33.080 --> 0:11:35.240 the chains moving, keep that momentum. So if he can 0:11:35.280 --> 0:11:38.360 be consistent and get that, you know, rappoor down with Trevor, 0:11:38.400 --> 0:11:38.840 that's huge. 0:11:39.000 --> 0:11:42.920 I say this too. We heard late yesterday that the 0:11:42.960 --> 0:11:46.880 Texans were getting in on Calvin Ridley was Gary Houston. 0:11:47.160 --> 0:11:49.440 I might have scratched my head a little bit and went, oh, right, 0:11:49.559 --> 0:11:51.680 with that quarterback that they've got over there. But the 0:11:51.720 --> 0:11:55.000 situation in Tennessee I think works that you won't worry 0:11:55.000 --> 0:11:56.160 so much about him being there. 0:11:56.200 --> 0:11:57.760 Correct, you never want to see him in the same division, 0:11:57.800 --> 0:11:59.599 but it was a little scarier when we thought it was. 0:12:00.559 --> 0:12:03.600 It's a bold move on Tennessee's part. I don't know 0:12:04.440 --> 0:12:07.320 what their strategy is. I don't cover that team. 0:12:07.720 --> 0:12:10.280 But they're spending money. 0:12:10.559 --> 0:12:14.400 Yeah, they're spending money, and they have the cap room 0:12:14.440 --> 0:12:18.400 forward because they have rookie quarterback on first year deal, 0:12:18.559 --> 0:12:21.000 second round pick, so that makes sense in their part. 0:12:23.520 --> 0:12:24.200 Good luck to him. 0:12:25.080 --> 0:12:26.480 All Right, it's a busy day here. We're talking a 0:12:26.520 --> 0:12:28.040 little bit about people that aren't in the building. We're 0:12:28.040 --> 0:12:29.560 going to talk about the people that are in the 0:12:29.559 --> 0:12:32.440 building as we got coming up here on Jaguars Happy 0:12:32.480 --> 0:12:35.360 Hour presented by the Saint John's River Water Management District. 0:12:35.400 --> 0:12:37.720 Of course, we've got five new faces here in Jacksonville. 0:12:37.760 --> 0:12:39.680 We'll hear from some of them coming up next on 0:12:39.800 --> 0:12:40.680 Jaguars Happy Hour. 0:12:56.120 --> 0:12:58.000 As soon as I heard Jacksonville, I was like, thank 0:12:58.120 --> 0:13:00.840 god they call as I thank god. 0:13:01.840 --> 0:13:03.120 I wanted to come back to Florida. 0:13:03.240 --> 0:13:05.679 I wanted to be around you know, guys that I knew, 0:13:06.040 --> 0:13:08.960 you know, coach that I loved, and you know, the 0:13:08.960 --> 0:13:09.600 team's great. 0:13:10.400 --> 0:13:10.720 Shoot. 0:13:10.720 --> 0:13:12.880 We can never we can never beat them, you know 0:13:12.840 --> 0:13:18.480 what I mean. So came, uh, came, came here, and 0:13:19.000 --> 0:13:21.080 you know, as soon as soon as they sent it in, 0:13:21.200 --> 0:13:22.760 you know, Nicholas Shame's winning then boom. 0:13:22.840 --> 0:13:24.240 I was like, Yeah, I'm a Jaguar man. 0:13:24.480 --> 0:13:25.360 Pretty easy decision. 0:13:26.120 --> 0:13:29.240 M an easy choice. Happy to be in Florida as 0:13:29.280 --> 0:13:31.319 there are the rest of us. I'm kind Nannie Stevens, 0:13:31.400 --> 0:13:33.720 John Oser, Ryan Sextoner with me as we're filling in 0:13:34.400 --> 0:13:37.920 for JP and Jeff today on Happy Hour presented by 0:13:38.120 --> 0:13:41.640 Saint John's Riverwater Management District, Florida's water It's worth saving. 0:13:41.760 --> 0:13:43.920 It's a busy day here. We've got some reported trades 0:13:43.960 --> 0:13:45.680 we're going to keep an eye on. And also five 0:13:45.720 --> 0:13:48.280 new faces were in the building. Gabe Davis, wide receiver 0:13:48.360 --> 0:13:51.520 from Buffalo and he as he said, very happy to 0:13:51.559 --> 0:13:52.960 see when Jacksonville called. 0:13:57.160 --> 0:14:01.480 Oh yeah, I mean he again. 0:14:01.520 --> 0:14:04.360 I'll go back to He fits what they want to do. 0:14:05.480 --> 0:14:08.240 He fits what they're trying to do at receiver. My 0:14:09.600 --> 0:14:13.240 only concern at receiver is it's a very very very 0:14:13.280 --> 0:14:16.959 expensive room filled with a lot of second contract free agents, 0:14:17.080 --> 0:14:20.560 and eventually they are going to want to draft and 0:14:20.600 --> 0:14:24.080 develop behind that to get that a little more salary 0:14:24.080 --> 0:14:27.440 cap palpable. But I'm tired of talking about the cap 0:14:27.600 --> 0:14:31.400 you know, for those you know, for on the field 0:14:31.440 --> 0:14:34.840 next year. It does give Trevor an option. He hasn't 0:14:34.880 --> 0:14:36.720 had to throw it up and go get the ball guy. 0:14:37.520 --> 0:14:40.840 So it's one more element they have and I'm fine 0:14:40.840 --> 0:14:43.240 with it. To me, this group, Brian, it is a 0:14:43.240 --> 0:14:46.760 group that easily all four of these guys you could 0:14:46.800 --> 0:14:51.400 see catching nine hundred yards worth of balls and seven 0:14:51.480 --> 0:14:54.960 to eight touchdowns, So that's very reasonable for all that, I. 0:14:54.960 --> 0:14:56.920 Would agree with you, tinly, which is sort of what 0:14:56.960 --> 0:15:00.240 we saw from them in twenty twenty two. We like 0:15:00.320 --> 0:15:03.520 the big bodied receiver, Like look, Zay is not a 0:15:03.560 --> 0:15:07.200 small guy, but he's not as big as Gabe Davis. 0:15:07.720 --> 0:15:11.320 And you can either you can look at Evan Ingram 0:15:11.360 --> 0:15:13.480 is a smaller tight end or as a bigger wide receiver, 0:15:13.960 --> 0:15:16.760 but you see how effective he is in this league. 0:15:16.840 --> 0:15:20.240 Everyone wanted t Higgins, right, they still do go trade 0:15:20.240 --> 0:15:21.560 for T Higgins. I have ma I've heard of a 0:15:21.600 --> 0:15:24.880 thousand times. This is one of those big bodies, not 0:15:24.920 --> 0:15:26.520 quite as big as T Higgins, but the kind of 0:15:26.520 --> 0:15:30.880 guy we haven't really seen Jacksonville going back gosh, I 0:15:30.920 --> 0:15:35.880 mean the mid two thousands since Ernest us here, right, 0:15:36.040 --> 0:15:37.760 It's been a long time since we've had that kind 0:15:37.760 --> 0:15:40.479 of a guy. And this is a gifted athlete. 0:15:40.800 --> 0:15:43.000 And maybe that argument that Trevor Lawrence need's kind of 0:15:43.000 --> 0:15:45.400 those weapons down the field, But Gabe Davis can make 0:15:45.440 --> 0:15:48.680 those big plays, which is a skill set that not 0:15:48.800 --> 0:15:51.360 every wide receiver has, and that's something that will be 0:15:51.440 --> 0:15:53.640 added by adding him to the lineup, So that's good 0:15:53.640 --> 0:15:56.800 to see there. In terms of other people coming in today, 0:15:56.840 --> 0:15:59.280 we do have we have Devin Devernet who's a return specialist. 0:15:59.320 --> 0:16:02.000 Pretty much means he was coming out of Baltimore. So 0:16:02.000 --> 0:16:04.320 we're not probably gonna see Jamal Agnew. We'll see him 0:16:04.400 --> 0:16:07.560 land somewhere else. That's I haven't seen a ton of 0:16:07.600 --> 0:16:10.560 him so, but that's certainly a dynamic position that if 0:16:10.560 --> 0:16:12.240 you can help out on special teams that can be 0:16:12.280 --> 0:16:13.000 a huge difference. 0:16:13.040 --> 0:16:15.440 As we've seen, well, Jamal had been hurt last year, 0:16:15.560 --> 0:16:22.600 and typically a returner who is coming in as a 0:16:22.600 --> 0:16:26.320 free agent, Jamal had been here three years. That's a 0:16:26.320 --> 0:16:30.240 pretty long shelf life for free agent returner to come 0:16:30.280 --> 0:16:33.600 in and be with the team. So the best wishes 0:16:33.640 --> 0:16:37.200 to Jamal. Great guy, you know he was back in 0:16:37.240 --> 0:16:40.120 his career. This will have been a great stop for him. 0:16:40.400 --> 0:16:43.720 Happy story. You don't always stay everywhere a derviin a 0:16:44.160 --> 0:16:49.000 has been healthy. He would seem to be a smidge 0:16:49.000 --> 0:16:52.720 of an upgrade as a receiver. Jamal made some big 0:16:52.720 --> 0:16:56.120 plays as a receiver and he mattered in the offense. 0:16:56.560 --> 0:16:59.000 But I don't know that you ever felt like if 0:16:59.000 --> 0:17:01.280 he was going to be one year four going out 0:17:01.760 --> 0:17:04.720 that you loved that as an option. I don't know 0:17:04.760 --> 0:17:07.439 that Dermine's love is an option, but maybe a bit 0:17:07.480 --> 0:17:09.840 of an upgrade there. And he's been healthier, you feel 0:17:09.880 --> 0:17:12.840 like he's more in the prime of his career. You're 0:17:12.920 --> 0:17:14.920 signing a free agent like this for the next three years, 0:17:15.000 --> 0:17:15.800 not the last two years. 0:17:15.800 --> 0:17:18.120 Since we're just sort of prognosticating here. I mean, I'm 0:17:18.119 --> 0:17:23.160 fine with Duverne being just the return guy. I've got 0:17:23.200 --> 0:17:26.560 Travis Etn who can do a multitude of things for me. 0:17:26.680 --> 0:17:29.240 He can take some of those jet screens and do 0:17:29.400 --> 0:17:31.679 some of the stuff that Doug wanted to do the 0:17:31.720 --> 0:17:34.320 last two years with Jamal, and he's got better hands. 0:17:34.400 --> 0:17:37.040 Let's be honest. Last year, Jamal put the ball on 0:17:37.080 --> 0:17:39.120 the ground a couple of times in Madje whoa right, 0:17:39.320 --> 0:17:40.800 Like all of a sudden, that was kind of becoming 0:17:40.800 --> 0:17:45.560 an issue. I expect Tank Bigsby to have a bigger share, 0:17:45.840 --> 0:17:47.800 and Doug even talked about it at the combine. 0:17:47.840 --> 0:17:49.760 He has to with the spot that he was drafted that. 0:17:49.800 --> 0:17:52.080 Absolutely, and I believe in this kid. We talked about 0:17:52.160 --> 0:17:54.080 him a lot last year, So that will free you 0:17:54.200 --> 0:17:58.000 up to use etn in that. Quite honestly, there is 0:17:58.080 --> 0:18:01.640 no lack of weaponry. If you protect this guy, which 0:18:01.680 --> 0:18:03.960 I'm going back to the offensive line, if you build 0:18:04.000 --> 0:18:06.920 the wall in front of the quarterback, there's enough weapons 0:18:06.920 --> 0:18:09.320 here to be as good as you were in twenty 0:18:09.359 --> 0:18:13.320 twenty two, effective or better. So I could see a 0:18:13.320 --> 0:18:16.480 lot of different things happening. They don't need du Verne 0:18:16.760 --> 0:18:18.760 to come in and be a receiver. They needed to 0:18:18.800 --> 0:18:21.440 be a great return man because Jamal Agnew came down 0:18:21.480 --> 0:18:23.760 here and was a Pro Bowl return man. You're going 0:18:23.840 --> 0:18:27.359 to lose that without him. They're gambling, writes Crystal Ball Business. 0:18:27.600 --> 0:18:30.360 They're gambling that this guy is the next Jamal. 0:18:30.080 --> 0:18:32.200 Agnew come in and play that role on this team 0:18:32.280 --> 0:18:34.240 for sure. On the defensive side of the ball, we 0:18:34.280 --> 0:18:37.200 have Darnell Savage coming from Green Bay, Ronald Darby who's 0:18:37.600 --> 0:18:41.880 bopped around a couple different places at cornerback there, John 0:18:41.960 --> 0:18:43.920 is it a little I know we talked about it yesterday. 0:18:43.920 --> 0:18:45.400 One might be a little more of a stop gap 0:18:45.440 --> 0:18:47.239 the other two, but brings in a little bit more 0:18:47.280 --> 0:18:50.600 experience to kind of with your new defensive coordinator figure 0:18:50.640 --> 0:18:52.800 out what pieces work wear and get some of the 0:18:52.840 --> 0:18:54.280 youth and seeing exactly what you have. 0:18:54.480 --> 0:18:59.000 Well, I think it was an affordable fit. I've used 0:18:59.000 --> 0:19:03.359 a phrase stopgap, but in this day and age there's 0:19:03.359 --> 0:19:05.840 so much turnover that most guys are stopgasks. If your 0:19:05.920 --> 0:19:09.800