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Speaker 1: It is Thursday, March fourteen.

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Speaker 2: This is Jaguars Happy Hour.

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Speaker 3: Jaguar's Happy Hour is presented by the Saint John's River

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Speaker 3: Water Management District. And now, ladies and gentlemen, hide your

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Speaker 3: Snickers bars. It's TV's Kai Stevens.

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Speaker 4: Oh, I wish there were Snickers bars that came with

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Speaker 4: this job. Snickers Over in the other field training camp

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Speaker 4: they bring out ice cream snickers for all the players

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Speaker 4: during training camp. And yes, I do partake in that.

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Speaker 4: Kay Stevens filling in for J. P. Shadwick. Jeff Logoman

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Speaker 4: not in as well. So I have some guests with

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Speaker 4: me today. But it's a big day here in Jacksonville.

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Speaker 4: We've got all these new faces coming in a bit

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Speaker 4: of a carousel of everybody. We've got to meet all

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Speaker 4: these new players today. It's exciting time.

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Speaker 1: Can John sit down?

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Speaker 4: John Oser is joining us up to the minute.

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Speaker 1: Right to make sure it was good with you.

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Speaker 4: I do appreciate that Bran Sexton is also with us today.

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Speaker 1: Worried about him standing over there.

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Speaker 4: I know. I don't want him to feel left out.

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Speaker 1: It's a busy day, I mean it's for sure. When

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Speaker 1: they get these guys in here, they meet with the coaches,

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Speaker 1: they take the photos, they meet with the media. It's

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Speaker 1: a whirlwind for them.

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Speaker 4: It is, John, thank you for joining us. We're here

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Speaker 4: on Happy Hour, of course, brought to you by Saint

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Speaker 4: John's River Water Management District, Florida's water it's worth saving.

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Speaker 2: John.

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Speaker 4: We were just talking about all these carousel we've been

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Speaker 4: going through with people, right, So we've had five different

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Speaker 4: players coming in and four were signed free agents, and

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Speaker 4: then of course Mac Jones that was traded for that

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Speaker 4: one official this afternoon. So it's exciting to see all

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Speaker 4: these new faces coming to town and potentially more things happening.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and we had Mitch Morse yesterday, and I think

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Speaker 5: collectively you got an idea that they're all impressive. They

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Speaker 5: all seem to have pretty solid leadership qualities. And Gabe

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Speaker 5: Davis was a captain this year for the Bills and

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Speaker 5: other players who have that feel.

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Speaker 2: Mitch Moore certainly has that feel.

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Speaker 5: So you know, look, I'm not sure that this is

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Speaker 5: the most high profile group of freegens they've ever had,

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Speaker 5: but I think it fits what they needed to do,

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Speaker 5: and I think it fit what they could do within

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Speaker 5: the cap constraints. And they all make sense, which to

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Speaker 5: me is the first step. I'm sort of past the point, Brian,

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Speaker 5: where I'm gonna get cartwheel excited over the free agency class.

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Speaker 5: But I think these guys make sense for what they're

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Speaker 5: trying to do. Well.

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Speaker 1: They spent one hundred and seventy five million dollars, set

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Speaker 1: a new league record a few years back. Right, they

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Speaker 1: didn't have that kind of money. They couldn't go and

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Speaker 1: play in the high dollar free agency. It wasn't going

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Speaker 1: to be the glitzy, glamorous class. I think we all

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Speaker 1: agreed that the More signing was the one that we

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Speaker 1: were all most excited about because it was such a glaring.

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Speaker 4: Need, huge for the team.

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Speaker 1: Yes, they they lacked the ability to convert third down

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Speaker 1: and short. Right, they lacked the ability to be consistent

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Speaker 1: with the running game up the middle, and it hampered

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Speaker 1: their offense. You could see the way the teams defended

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Speaker 1: them as they figured out they're not going to be

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Speaker 1: able to move the ball on us in the A gaps.

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Speaker 2: And I'll interrupt here.

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Speaker 5: Ian Rappaport is reporting that Eric Armstead is close to

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Speaker 5: a deal with the Jaguars, So we don't know that officially.

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Speaker 4: We love some breaking reports.

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Speaker 5: That's uh, you know, wrap is pretty good what he does. Listen,

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Speaker 5: and that's size in the middles making out Yeah, six seven,

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Speaker 5: he's a two hundred ninety five pound guy, an area

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Speaker 5: that they need to be stouter.

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Speaker 1: Here's a question, how in the world are they getting

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Speaker 1: it done? Right?

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Speaker 2: If they sign it and it's a witchcraft, Well look.

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Speaker 4: I have to know math Brian stop bringing us down,

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Speaker 4: all right?

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Speaker 1: Well, I don't want to just I'm just curious. You know,

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Speaker 1: if they're going to sign Eric Armstead, who's going right,

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Speaker 1: You've got three point eight million dollars in salary cap

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Speaker 1: from I'm using spot track by the way, right, some

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Speaker 1: people use over the cap. I use spot track and

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Speaker 1: they're roughly in the ballpark. So there's some magic being done.

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Speaker 1: I mean, there's some numbers being crunched. There's a strategy

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Speaker 1: have got to find the money somewhere. There's a there's

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Speaker 1: a precious few places to create cap room on this

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Speaker 1: roster right now. Right, we've talked about Cam Robinson has

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Speaker 1: won because he gives you about seventeen million dollars in

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Speaker 1: then it dries up pretty quickly. You know, the guys

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Speaker 1: aren't guys you're gonna cut. So it's interesting to see

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Speaker 1: them still being very active with very little room.

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Speaker 4: I will say we do have to address yesterday. They

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Speaker 4: saved some money because they did not re sign Calvin Ridley.

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Speaker 4: He is going to the Titans reportedly, and there's big

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Speaker 4: money going to him there, so I mean, good for him.

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Speaker 1: Earning also twenty three million years.

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Speaker 4: What he got fifty guaranteed ninety two over four years.

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Speaker 4: Is the reports, which here's the fifty guarantee. How do

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Speaker 4: you say no to that?

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Speaker 5: Well, how do you say no to it? And if

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Speaker 5: you're the Jags, how do you go that way?

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Speaker 1: You don't.

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Speaker 4: I think people would be upset if the team did.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, they would certainly be.

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Speaker 5: U said in a couple of years when it completely

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Speaker 5: hampered you with the cap. And you know, look, I

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Speaker 5: all off season and I wrote off season, I think

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Speaker 5: Calvin Ridley on this roster would have been good. I

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Speaker 5: don't know that it would have been good to the

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Speaker 5: tune of building your salary cap structure around him at

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Speaker 5: the expense of other things. And that's what fifty million

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Speaker 5: guarantee would have done.

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Speaker 1: You know, my sense of people's opinion of Calvin Ridley

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Speaker 1: was based on hope. Kai. There were a lot of

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Speaker 1: whether it's in line of publics or out at the beach,

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Speaker 1: where they hoped that another year in the system, another

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Speaker 1: year working with Trevor would get the Calvin Ridley that

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Speaker 1: we all had hoped we would see this year, you know,

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Speaker 1: twelve hundred thirteen hundred yards, ten touchdowns. We didn't see that.

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Speaker 1: So going forward, it I just don't think you could

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Speaker 1: guarantee fifty million dollars on hope. And it just doesn't

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Speaker 1: next year if he comes back healthy and has the

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Speaker 1: big year this year, a thirty year old receiver that,

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Speaker 1: That didn't make any sense to me. And by the way,

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Speaker 1: now he's going to Tennessee and he's going to run

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Speaker 1: imprecise routes for quarterback who isn't very accurate. Good luck

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Speaker 4: It would be interesting. I mean, that is a huge

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Speaker 4: first heard it. Of course, no one wants to see,

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Speaker 4: you know, a Jaguargo play for the Titans. Nobody likes that.

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Speaker 4: When we see the numbers, you're like, ah, it would

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Speaker 4: not have been super excited if Trent Balke went that

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Speaker 4: route right with fifty million guaranteed. But it does you know, now,

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Speaker 4: where's the wide receiver room going? John? Does this mean

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Speaker 4: maybe they're focusing on somebody else that we're unaware of,

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Speaker 4: or are they going to run with what they have?

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Speaker 4: How do you see it?

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Speaker 5: Unfildin, I think they put themselves in good situation going

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Speaker 5: in in this sense, it may take me a while

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Speaker 5: to get to this point. In twenty twenty two, they

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Speaker 5: were a good receiving corps that made the postseason. You

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Speaker 5: felt great about at the end with Zay Jones, Christian Kirk,

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Speaker 5: Evan Ingram, and Marvin Jones. They were essentially the same

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Speaker 5: offense last year, adding Ridley and removing Marvin Jones. And

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Speaker 5: he said, well, they were worse last year, but they

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Speaker 5: really weren't worse offensively last year. They were about the

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Speaker 5: same numbers wise, And then they dipped a little bit

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Speaker 5: once Trevor and Christian got hurt. They set themselves up

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Speaker 5: by signing Gabe Davis with having a cord next year.

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Speaker 5: Minimum that's going to be Davis, Zay Jones, Christian Kirk

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Speaker 5: and e An Inger. Well, that's not significantly different. You're

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Speaker 5: plugging Gabe Davis in for Marvin Jones, right. You know,

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Speaker 5: Marvin may run a little bit more precise routes and

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Speaker 5: be a little more veteran dependable guy, but Gabe gives

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Speaker 5: you big play guy. So if they stick with these four,

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Speaker 5: then I think they left themselves a situation where these

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Speaker 5: four can go win in the NFL.

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Speaker 2: Sure, and they had a chance.

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Speaker 5: I think Zay would have been gone had had Calvin

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Speaker 5: Ben signed. So you're upgrading that a little bit, maybe

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Speaker 5: with Ridley over Za, But to me, the whole key,

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Speaker 5: if it's these four, the key to me is can

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Speaker 5: they give you sixty total games? Can they be healthy,

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Speaker 5: because that's what really took the receiving core down last

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Speaker 1: You just compared Ridley to say, let's compare Ridley to

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Speaker 1: Gabe Davis. Right, So Ridley obviously has had big seasons

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Speaker 1: thousand yard seasons and gave Davis has not. But he

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Speaker 1: that he scored in the playoffs. So he's a proven commodity.

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Speaker 1: And the term that was used about him that I've

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Speaker 1: and get it right. He's more of a perimeter guy,

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Speaker 1: you know, sideline fifty to fifty bowl kind of guy.

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Speaker 1: How much This isn't the right way to phrase it,

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Speaker 1: but where are you in that comparison? Do you gain

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Speaker 1: anything or do you lose something when you put Davis

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Speaker 1: in the line up instead of Ridley? How much?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's uh, you know, realistic.

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Speaker 5: I'd say probably a little bit if you if you

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Speaker 5: told me I had to have one or the other

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Speaker 5: and it was specials. Yeah, So I'm not gonna be

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Speaker 5: disingenuous and say I wouldn't want really on the team.

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Speaker 1: I guess what I'm just saying is that I don't

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Speaker 1: think the gap is as big as you might.

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Speaker 4: Right.

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Speaker 5: It's in this offense. History is shown in Philadelphia when

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Speaker 5: they won in twenty seventeen.

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Speaker 2: Was there a go to guy? Not really.

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Speaker 5: The other comparison is always the Chiefs once less, you know,

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Speaker 5: kill a go to guy, But over time that offense

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Speaker 5: has always worked without.

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Speaker 1: A go to guy. The go to guy was the

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Speaker 5: Yeah, so you know it, it can work like this.

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Speaker 5: And the whole key to the thing is can they

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Speaker 5: interior run block better? Can they keep Trevor healthy? And

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Speaker 5: can Trevor reduce the turnovers? No matter what we're doing

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Speaker 5: right now, those are still the three storylines to me.

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Speaker 4: And I think that's It's a great point you bring up, John,

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Speaker 4: because in this day and age, do you need a

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Speaker 4: star receiver necessarily to win a Super Bowl?

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Speaker 5: You don't.

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Speaker 4: Probably you can get by with a bunch of twos

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Speaker 4: or whatever it is, but your quarterback does have to

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Speaker 4: step up their play.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I mean he again.

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Speaker 5: I'll go back to He fits what they want to do.

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Speaker 5: know over time. I don't think the locker room is

438
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Speaker 5: bad last year, but you need to make sure that

439
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Speaker 5: it stays what you want from listening to both of

440
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Speaker 5: these guys. I'm sure when Trent leaned into Doug's office

441
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Speaker 5: and said, Hey, I'm looking at these two guys. Yeah, absolutely,

442
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Speaker 5: Like I think Doug probably likes both of these guys

443
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Speaker 5: very much coming in here and being guys who can

444
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Speaker 5: come in and lead right away in.

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Speaker 2: The right way.

446
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Speaker 1: We were all sitting there in the postgame after that

447
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Speaker 1: Niners game and Doug came in and remember he said,

448
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Speaker 1: we haven't done anything yet. Well, he's bringing in some

449
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Speaker 1: guys who've done something right. Mitch Morris has played in

450
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Speaker 1: some AFC Championship games with the Bills, and Ronald Darby

451
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Speaker 1: won a Super Bowl with the with the Philadelphia Eagles,

452
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Speaker 1: and Darnell Savage has played in some playoff games, some

453
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Speaker 1: consequential games. He's brought some guys in here who have

454
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Speaker 1: done some things. And that's what that locker room lacked,

455
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Speaker 1: guys who have been there and done that. And I

456
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Speaker 1: think that's an important thing for them.

457
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Speaker 4: To fill this year and at a sustained level. I

458
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Speaker 4: remember telling you guys, it's that, Okay, you have one

459
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Speaker 4: good season, but to go and play, you know in

460
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Speaker 4: a Baltimore even Green Bay where they demand success there

461
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Speaker 4: as well. To have players that are on these teams

462
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Speaker 4: where they're expected to win and make the playoffs every

463
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Speaker 4: single year, it's different. And to know that you're going

464
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Speaker 4: into training camp, you're playing for a coach where you

465
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Speaker 4: know what's expected of you, and you have to set

466
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Speaker 4: that precedent with your players. You can't just have your

467
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Speaker 4: coach telling you that you need to see some players

468
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Speaker 4: and have some leaders on your team that do that.

469
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Speaker 4: And while Jacksonville is a young team, they can bring

470
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Speaker 4: in some veterans that have been there and done that well.

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Speaker 1: And by the way, if Eric Armstead ends up siding,

472
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Speaker 1: that's other thing, right super Bowls and I think you've

473
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Speaker 1: got to give you got to give Trent Doug and

474
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Speaker 1: their teams, both coaching and personnel, a lot of credit

475
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Speaker 1: because they didn't have a lot of salary cap room

476
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Speaker 1: to work with and they are making some various stute

477
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Speaker 1: moves guys that again, it's not going to light up

478
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Speaker 1: you know, social media with people praising them or radio stations,

479
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Speaker 1: But they're guys who come in and our good accomplished

480
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Speaker 1: players that come in at a number that works for

481
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Speaker 1: this team while setting up the future.

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Speaker 5: And you bring Armstead into the middle and then all

483
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Speaker 5: of a sudden, Robertson Harris von Hamilton, Armstead feels a

484
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Speaker 5: whole lot better.

485
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Speaker 1: Yet this than what was here before. Yeah, sure does.

486
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Speaker 4: That's a group. You definitely feel differently about.

487
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Speaker 1: It if you saw him on the field here when

488
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Speaker 1: they were here in November. He's just so so tall

489
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Speaker 1: and long and difficult to block that we haven't seen

490
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Speaker 1: that much of that.

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Speaker 4: It will be a good one here Unhappy Hour, Kai

492
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Speaker 4: Nannie Stevens filling in Brian Sexton, John Oser are with me.

493
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Speaker 4: We do want to invite you Jags fans to join

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Speaker 4: us on Tuesday, April sixteenth, from six thirty to eight

495
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Speaker 4: thirty at EverBank Stadium for the be Inspired by Jags

496
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Speaker 4: Jobs event that's presented by the Florida Lottery. You can

497
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Speaker 4: register for that right now at jaguars dot com slash

498
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Speaker 4: bright Futures. Of course, we're here on Jaguar's Happy I

499
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Speaker 4: were brought to you by the Saint John's River Water

500
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Speaker 4: Management District, Florida's water It's worth saving a lot of

501
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Speaker 4: new faces here. We will be back here on jag

502
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Speaker 4: Happy Hour here as we talk a little bit more,

503
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Speaker 4: coming back to the break.

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Speaker 6: Not only familiarity with Doug in the past that I've

505
00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:19,520
Speaker 6: always had a keen sense of trying to get back

506
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Speaker 6: to him ever since he became a head coach. I

507
00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:25,040
Speaker 6: thought it'd be kind of a fun deal. Either the culture.

508
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Speaker 6: I mean, we got absolutely smack last year in London

509
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Speaker 6: and then and you know, I've been a big fan

510
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Speaker 6: of that defense for a very long time, as well

511
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Speaker 6: as the offense. Of course, you know, I think this

512
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Speaker 6: league is a quarterback driven league, and to win in

513
00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:43,920
Speaker 6: this league you have to have a quarterback with the

514
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Speaker 6: tangibles and the and tanigles, and I think Trevor kind

515
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Speaker 6: of embodies both of those things.

516
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Speaker 2: So that and I mean the sunshine doesn't hurt.

517
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Speaker 4: Sunshine never hurts. That's offensive. Lineman Mitch Morse is going

518
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Speaker 4: to be the starting center for the team in twenty

519
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Speaker 4: twenty four. I'm kind of Annie Stephen's here on Jaguar's

520
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Speaker 4: Happy Hour, brought to you by the Saint John's River

521
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Speaker 4: Water Management Districts. It's Florida's water. It's worth saving, for sure,

522
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Speaker 4: and everybody seems to be happy to be in Florida.

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Speaker 4: I mean, it's not a hard sell, I would imagine,

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Speaker 4: other than I mean, us, as long as you get

525
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Speaker 4: as long as you get the money, right, I think

526
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Speaker 4: it's an easy sell for environment.

527
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Speaker 2: Which is what we're saying about you last year, right,

528
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Speaker 2: as long as you have the money.

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Speaker 4: I don't get I don't get these kind of contracts, though,

530
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Speaker 4: if that would make it a lot easier. Because I

531
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Speaker 4: was a little scared about training camp. I'm not gonna lie,

532
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Speaker 4: especially because I hear all these stories. I was like,

533
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Speaker 4: I'm going to pass it on training camp and everyone's

534
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Speaker 4: going to.

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Speaker 1: Be I don't think you did.

536
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Speaker 2: I didn't.

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Speaker 4: But we're very close to the MEC now. We're very fortunate.

538
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Speaker 4: This isn't the old days where you're just bacon in

539
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Speaker 4: the sun all day with no sunglasses on. So we were.

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Speaker 4: It was a and you eased me, and I appreciate why.

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Speaker 1: Practices you get some guys that are gonna have to

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Speaker 1: get used to it.

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Speaker 2: Right, I mean Mitch Mores in Buffalo, Darnell Savage's he's

544
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Speaker 2: been bay and.

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Speaker 1: If Armstead signs he's been in the Bay area that.

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Speaker 4: You know, that's get a nice little breeze different, yeah,

547
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Speaker 4: a little different, all right? Well, Well these are good,

548
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Speaker 4: good problems to have though, right, good problems to have,

549
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Speaker 4: especially around November December for them, so a lot of

550
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Speaker 4: new faces in town. We do want to talk about

551
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Speaker 4: the O line. Mitch Morris was actually signed earlier because

552
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Speaker 4: he was released by Buffalo, so we had him in

553
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Speaker 4: here earlier in the week. He says all the right things.

554
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Speaker 4: A veteran, certainly something we've been talking about for a

555
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Speaker 4: while that they needed to address that issue, and Mitch

556
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Speaker 4: Morse did address the issue in terms of coming in

557
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Speaker 4: and starting over Luke Fortner, and he said he's talked

558
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Speaker 4: to him already and that they feel like it'll be

559
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Speaker 4: a good vibe in the room.

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Speaker 6: You know, Luke and I have chatted and I'm just

561
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Speaker 6: looking forward to competing and growing with him. Like I

562
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Speaker 6: think that's that's what football is all about, right, I

563
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Speaker 6: guess it's about, you know, no matter where you are

564
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Speaker 6: in your career, growing and being a better professional and

565
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Speaker 6: learning how to take your game to the next level.

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Speaker 6: So you know, no matter what happens, how that works

567
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Speaker 6: it out. Like for me, I'm trying to be a

568
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Speaker 6: resource for him. He's going to be a resource for me,

569
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Speaker 6: and we're just going to see how it plays out.

570
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Speaker 6: But hopefully, first and foremost, just make a good relationship

571
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Speaker 6: in this offensive line room. Lasting a lot to do

572
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Speaker 6: is polarize anything.

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Speaker 4: Not a ton of divas in the offensive line group,

574
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Speaker 4: So I'm not surprised that they're all on the same

575
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Speaker 4: page there, but happy at least. I mean to see

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Speaker 4: that the team is understanding of, hey, we did something,

577
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Speaker 4: it didn't work. Luke Fortner was an issue on that

578
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Speaker 4: offensive line. Obviously they dealt with some injuries as well.

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Speaker 4: I think that at eight or nine different players that

580
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Speaker 4: started at one point on the offensive line this year.

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Speaker 4: But it has to give you some hope going forward.

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Speaker 4: And then Brian, as we've mentioned, the draft is always

583
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Speaker 4: an option.

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Speaker 1: Without a doubt. But when you put a player john

585
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Speaker 1: like Morse in the middle of your offensive line and

586
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Speaker 1: you've re signed Ezra Cleveland and you've got two guys

587
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Speaker 1: in Cam Robinson and Walker Little, you feel pretty good

588
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Speaker 1: about the guys that you've got and upgrading. And then

589
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Speaker 1: obviously they love what Anton Harrison gave them last year.

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Speaker 1: So the one spot that you're talking about now thinking

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Speaker 1: all right, we got to make sure we've got competition

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Speaker 1: there is with a guy who played five times as

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Speaker 1: a five ten pro bowler, right Brandon Sheriff, who, by

594
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Speaker 1: the way, credit to him, gutted through an ankle injury

595
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Speaker 1: that lingered all season long last year, and he just

596
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Speaker 1: never was willing to come out of the lineup, So

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Speaker 1: a lot of credit there. You can see. You can

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Speaker 1: make the case where this offensive line, just by adding

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Speaker 1: Morse and re signing Cleveland is poised to have a

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Speaker 1: significantly better outcome this season.

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Speaker 2: Well it should and.

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Speaker 5: Just by it if they're stouter up the middle, which

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Speaker 5: I get. It was hard to tell in the last

604
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Speaker 5: five games what exactly Ezra Cleveland was right, because you're

605
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Speaker 5: coming in trade, deadline trade, you're playing the last five

606
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Speaker 5: He gets hurt pretty quickly against the Brown. Even if

607
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Speaker 5: he hadn't, there's so much going on, you know, you're

608
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Speaker 5: losing games. It's you know, this guy's can make all

609
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Speaker 5: the difference, get him a fresh start. They obviously like him.

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Speaker 5: What I like about Mitch Morse.

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Speaker 4: Is a.

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Speaker 5: His results show you that he's stouter on the interior

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Speaker 5: than Luke Fordner, so you start there. But center is

614
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Speaker 5: also and I'm sure Luke handled this part very well.

615
00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:11,040
Speaker 5: A center is of all the of the Lyne positions.

616
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Speaker 5: It's a leadership, communication position, A veteran center who clearly

617
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Speaker 5: it is a mature, intelligent, engaging person.

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Speaker 2: This guy seems to me like he.

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Speaker 5: Can step in right away and be if not the

620
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Speaker 5: captain on the offensive line, he can be the captain.

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Speaker 5: But he may I have the c But this guy

622
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Speaker 5: can lead steerly, can communicate, he can learn the offense.

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Speaker 2: He can give Trevor ease, you know. So he fills

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Speaker 2: all that.

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Speaker 5: So even if he's not the Mitch Morse that he

626
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Speaker 5: was maybe in year five, he certainly strikes you as

627
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Speaker 5: a guy who can be a good veteran for this

628
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Speaker 5: team for a couple of years.

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Speaker 1: You tell us, I mean you've interviewed enough guys and

630
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Speaker 1: understand body language and presence. You were with him yesterday.

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Speaker 4: He gets it and that's huge, right and John, you're

632
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Speaker 4: alluding to it because you need that on the offensive line.

633
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Speaker 4: We can't forget Trevor is a young quarterback and to

634
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Speaker 4: have a center that's been there, done that and knows

635
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Speaker 4: how it goes. He's played, you know, with Patrick Mahomes

636
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Speaker 4: in his second year, he's played with Josh Allen for

637
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Speaker 4: several years.

638
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Speaker 2: To have that kind of.

639
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Speaker 4: Calming presence, and especially if you happen to do have

640
00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:18,480
Speaker 4: the injury bug again, the centerpiece knock On Wood is

641
00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:20,960
Speaker 4: the same and that can kind of keep some security

642
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Speaker 4: because there were times. We don't want to say Trevor

643
00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:25,840
Speaker 4: necessarily saw ghosts, but you could tell he was getting,

644
00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:28,280
Speaker 4: you know, running around a little bit last season, and

645
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Speaker 4: maybe that was just, you know, not being familiar with

646
00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:32,800
Speaker 4: where people were going to be at certain times, and

647
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Speaker 4: you need your quarterback to feel comfortable if you want

648
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Speaker 4: them to be successful.

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Speaker 1: Now I'll throw this out there. They've signed Mitch Morse.

650
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Speaker 1: It's great. They've re signed Ezra Cleveland, fantastic. I still

651
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Speaker 1: want to see with one of the first two picks.

652
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Speaker 1: I've loosened up a little bit. I wanted to do

653
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Speaker 1: seventeen man. I wanted to right tackle right because I

654
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Speaker 1: think you got Anton Harrison is your long term future

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Speaker 1: at left tackle at least that's my understanding of what

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Speaker 1: he's capable of. A great draft, a great draft for

657
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Speaker 1: offensive lineman. Go get big, meaner, better, younger, have a

658
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Speaker 1: guy in there, because remember Cam's in the last year

659
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Speaker 1: of his deal, and so too is Walker Little. So

660
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Speaker 1: you have one tackle one under contract for twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 1: Don't let this thing be good this year and then

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Speaker 1: slide back. Go find a guy.

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Speaker 4: There are moves to be made, for sure, whether that's

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Speaker 4: at seventeen the first round or in the second round

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Speaker 4: as well. There, and we do want to mention that

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Speaker 4: Eric Armstead proposed deal reported John Saw on Twitter a

667
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Speaker 4: little bit earlier from Ian Rappaport that Eric Armstead might

668
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Speaker 4: be added because they got stout or on the offensive line.

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Speaker 4: The defensive line was a little bit of an issue

670
00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:35,640
Speaker 4: towards the end of the season. They were great with

671
00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:38,400
Speaker 4: the run stop early and then kind of things are falling.

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Speaker 4: I don't know IF's communication or what, but things were

673
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Speaker 4: falling off at the end there. So if you can

674
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Speaker 4: have someone like that in the middle, it just changes

675
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Speaker 4: the whole dynamic. If that's going to be what you

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Speaker 4: have in the center.

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Speaker 5: Well, it gives you three. You know, this seem's gonna

678
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Speaker 5: play a four to three. It gives you Trayvon, Josh

679
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Speaker 5: Eric Armstead. That's three and we were gonna get mad.

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Speaker 5: And I say it has three Pro Bowl level talents.

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Speaker 5: I know, Trayvon has not played in a Pro Bowl

682
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Speaker 5: LA yet. At the end of last year, he's coming on.

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Speaker 1: He's coming on.

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Speaker 2: And in terms of.

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Speaker 5: Stoutness, you know, if you line up Armstead and Trayvon,

686
00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:19,080
Speaker 5: that's hard to move, you know, So all of a sudden,

687
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Speaker 5: you're better if you add to that a healthy Devon Hamilton,

688
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Speaker 5: who was really coming out at the end of twenty

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Speaker 5: twenty two.

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Speaker 2: The formula is there. Now things have to go right.

691
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Speaker 2: But Trayvon next to Armstead on the line.

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Speaker 1: There's a lot of length there, right, I mean, Armstead

693
00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:39,800
Speaker 1: is six foot seven. He was here. He made a

694
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Speaker 1: visit nine years ago out of Oregon when they were

695
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Speaker 1: letting guys talk to us when they would come visit,

696
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Speaker 1: and I remember vividly him filling the doorway. Right. He

697
00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:54,680
Speaker 1: and Brnston buck are DeForest Buckner what they were teammates

698
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Speaker 1: at Oregon. They were back to back first round picks

699
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Speaker 1: by the Niners, and when the Niners went to the

700
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Speaker 1: Super Bowl in twenty nineteen. Yet those two massive bodies

701
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Speaker 1: in the middle. Now he's thirty years old. Okay, so

702
00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:09,520
Speaker 1: he's not a young man. But you've got incredible wingspan

703
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Speaker 1: for Trayvon, which makes him a very dangerous player. You

704
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Speaker 1: got the same thing on this with even more weight

705
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Speaker 1: and height. I think that's an interesting If I'm Ryan Nielsen,

706
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Speaker 1: I'm really intrigued about the games I can play with

707
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Speaker 1: these two guys on one side of the line together.

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Speaker 4: It ups your athleticism in that regard just having that

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Speaker 4: kind of range there.

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Speaker 1: Well I'm putting your hands up and blocking passes.

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Speaker 4: Well, that'll do it too. We gotta see. That is

712
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Speaker 4: Ryan Nielsen, I'm sure has come in and said what

713
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Speaker 4: he wanted to run. But he's got to have a

714
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Speaker 4: hand in some of this, right, like, Hey, I need

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Speaker 4: this and that. Do you think that's something you focus so.

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Speaker 5: Certainly in the secondary, there's no question, of course, and

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Speaker 5: up front as well, because there are games we played

718
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Speaker 5: up front. But everything that I have been able to

719
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Speaker 5: glean from reading and talk to people about Neelsen, he

720
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Speaker 5: likes to rush with four and wants to get it all.

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Speaker 5: Defensive coordinator who run a four to three want to

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Speaker 5: get there with four, but he really wants to do that.

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Speaker 5: And now you've got three guys on your interior and

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Speaker 5: Devon when he's right. Devon at the end of twenty

725
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Speaker 5: twenty two was getting penetration all of a sudden. You've

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Speaker 5: got four guys on your D line if you line

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Speaker 5: on Trayvon, Armstead, Alan and Devon who can all get

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Speaker 5: some pass rush and so Canroy. When Roy was right

729
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Speaker 5: at the end of twenty two twenty twenty two, he

730
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Speaker 5: was getting some pass rush too, so maybe an area

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Speaker 5: to be more disruptive upfront.

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Speaker 1: I don't think I can added anything to that because

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Speaker 1: the one thing I was gonna say was Devn Hamilton

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Speaker 1: from the end of his rookie season was a guy

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Speaker 1: that you could see. He was powerful, so he could

736
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Speaker 1: push people backwards. But for his wide a body he is,

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Speaker 1: and he's wide, he can slide between two offensive linemen

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Speaker 1: like few big guys do. So if you've got that

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Speaker 1: and he's not having to play, you know, sixty five

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Speaker 1: percent of the snaps, you'll get him back closer to

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Speaker 1: where he's supposed to be.

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Speaker 4: A nimble, big guy, nimble, nimble on his feet sometimes.

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Speaker 1: Did you see him out on the practice field last

744
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Speaker 1: summer with his little little, like two week old child,

745
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Speaker 1: I mean holding him with his great big hands. You

746
00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:18,760
Speaker 1: could barely see the baby.

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Speaker 4: It's a big guy, but he's fast. So I think,

748
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Speaker 4: is this something where maybe we might see a later

749
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Speaker 4: round pick trying to get someone on a line and

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Speaker 4: maybe someone a project, just like physically, a large person

751
00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:32,080
Speaker 4: that you could work on to like build going forward.

752
00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:33,800
Speaker 4: Because obviously this is great, but in a couple of

753
00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:35,080
Speaker 4: years we have the same issue.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they did it last year with Lacey and he quietly.

755
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Speaker 5: Lacey played most of the games and and and was there.

756
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Speaker 5: So that's sort of what you do. You always sort

757
00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:50,920
Speaker 5: of hope a later round pick can come along and

758
00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:54,360
Speaker 5: be impact on the defensive line. That's tough because usually,

759
00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:57,960
Speaker 5: you know, the great, big ones usually go early. So

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Speaker 5: uh sure, I wouldn't have a problem if you went

761
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Speaker 5: defensive line, offensive line one two in the draft most years,

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Speaker 5: but it's hard for teams to do that when you

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Speaker 5: have needs. And I think it'll be hard for this

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Speaker 5: team to do that this year, frankly, because you still

765
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Speaker 5: have a need a corner.

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Speaker 4: And that is something I'm looking at. John. I don't

767
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Speaker 4: know if you've publicly said what you think they're going

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Speaker 4: to do at seventeen, but I still feel like corner

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Speaker 4: might be in the mix there. Do you feel like

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Speaker 4: they're edging one all?

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Speaker 1: I think it's definitely the mix.

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Speaker 2: I think it's I.

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Speaker 4: Feel like that's what's going to be. It's just so

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Speaker 4: hard to get a good corner.

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Speaker 1: Like I feel like the question is will they be

776
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Speaker 1: a run on them before they draft, Will they.

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Speaker 4: Have to move will they be available at that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's Trent really really really likes drafting big people.

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00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:45,520
Speaker 5: So I am in which is fair, which is a

780
00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:48,400
Speaker 5: great game. Yeah, And so I'm saying that as a

781
00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:49,800
Speaker 5: compliment because that's how you build it.

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Speaker 2: Most gms do. Most gms want to do that.

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Speaker 5: But then when you get on draft day and you've

784
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Speaker 5: got a hole in your roster and you're thinking how

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00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:03,360
Speaker 5: you're going to line the team up, that's where the

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00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:07,920
Speaker 5: push and pull of life and real decisions and sitting

787
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Speaker 5: in the room going I wish I had five picks

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Speaker 5: right here.

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Speaker 2: You only got one.

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Speaker 1: So the variable that we can't account for is we

791
00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:17,840
Speaker 1: don't know who they like, right, We don't know who's

792
00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:21,239
Speaker 1: the number one corner on that board, and are they

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Speaker 1: willing to go up because they covet the guy from

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Speaker 1: Toledo perhaps, right, that's a name that a lot of

795
00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:28,440
Speaker 1: people have talked about it with a guy from Alabama.

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Speaker 1: Who's going to be there and who do they like?

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Speaker 1: There's just so many variables to it, but you can't

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Speaker 1: go wrong with a big guy the way the board falls.

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Speaker 4: As they say, we got a couple more weeks to

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Speaker 4: talk about that.

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Speaker 1: And also, by the way, Trent how many times they

802
00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:44,200
Speaker 1: moved back last year? Right? Yes, I mean they moved

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Speaker 1: from twenty four to twenty five to twenty seven.

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Speaker 4: I think we all remember because you were like, yeah,

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00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:50,080
Speaker 4: they're finding on the board. Oh just kidding, Oh, just kidding.

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Speaker 1: So the possibility exists that that they will do that again.

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00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:55,080
Speaker 1: They'll play around a little bit to get in a

808
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Speaker 1: spot and get the guy who matters the most to them.

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Speaker 4: All right, we're here on Jaguars Happy Hour, brought to

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Speaker 4: you by Saint John's River Water Management District, Florida's water

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Speaker 4: it's worth saving. Got our Microsoft social media questions. I'm

812
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Speaker 4: sure a bunch of you guys have questions about what's

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Speaker 4: going on right now. John has some answers for you.

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Speaker 4: So stay with us here on Jaguars Happy Hour.

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Speaker 6: Thank you.

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Speaker 1: Gotta get rid of one. Okay, so we got a

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Speaker 1: bagel with waffle pancakes. Friend, hildre my bagel.

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Speaker 5: Guys, are.

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Speaker 4: I love an icebreaker?

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Speaker 5: Question?

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Speaker 4: Darnell Savage was asking everybody in the building safety from

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Speaker 4: Green Bay, what you would get rid of given the

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Speaker 4: options for breakfast foods. I think one of them is

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Speaker 4: kind of already out of the mix for me. But

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Speaker 4: we'll get there. So his options were bagel, French toasts, pancakes, and.

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Speaker 2: Waffles, as long as I can have bagel.

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Speaker 4: Correct. First of all, here's me, bagel's kind of out

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Speaker 4: of I feel like it really should be French toasts,

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Speaker 4: pancakes and waffles, right, But if you're gonna put it

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Speaker 4: in bagels, absolutely staying. See you're a Northeastern, I'm a

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Speaker 4: good bagel, a good bagel.

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Speaker 1: I'm a Midwesterner. Bagels mean nothing to me, so I

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Speaker 1: would toss the bagels out.

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Speaker 4: Yes, it has to be a good bag I guess

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Speaker 4: that would be the precursor to that. But I think

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Speaker 4: waffles are going for me. I like a good waffle,

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Speaker 4: but I feel like a lot of waffles don't hit home.

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Speaker 5: So I'd say French toast because I'm more of a

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Speaker 5: basics guy, And if you had to, you could live

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Speaker 5: off bagels and waffles and pancakes. French toast really isn't

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Speaker 5: good unless you have syrup on it, So you're going pancakes.

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Speaker 4: So syrup.

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Speaker 2: This is madness if you if you had too.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I guess it's accessories.

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Speaker 2: The condimental my pancakes.

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Speaker 4: Booberry pancakes, absolutely now we know, look at this, we're

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Speaker 4: all getting.

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Speaker 1: To know each other as long as we don't have

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Speaker 1: to give a bacon.

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Speaker 4: No, bacon's obviously involved in this, oh for sure. By

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Speaker 4: the way, there's mo Mosa's beer and bacon.

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Speaker 1: I have a recipe for a French toast that's infused

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Speaker 1: with bourbon that you might like.

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Speaker 4: Also croissant French toasts.

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Speaker 2: A very little question.

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Speaker 4: I would like that bourbon involved. Yes, absolutely wrong, as we.

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Speaker 2: Got rid of the French toast. That sounds great.

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Speaker 5: All right.

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Speaker 4: This is not a breakfast show. It is a sports show. Promise, Ka, Nannie, Stephens,

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Speaker 4: briand sext and John Osier with me here on Happy Hour.

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Speaker 4: We're filling in for our guys JP and Jeff who

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Speaker 4: are off today. Brought to you by the Saint John's

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Speaker 4: River Water Management District. And it's been a busy day,

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Speaker 4: but a fun day. We like when new faces are

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Speaker 4: coming to town a little bit, probably more like two

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Speaker 4: years ago when you guys had a bunch of people

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Speaker 4: coming in new as opposed to last year was a

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Speaker 4: little more quiet, probably a similar roster, not as many

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Speaker 4: free agents coming in. But it feels like John, we've

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Speaker 4: discussed a little bit, just to reiterate Eric arms Sad

871
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Speaker 4: obviously a big name if that comes to fruition that's

872
00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:48,200
Speaker 4: floated out there, that he'll be added to this mix.

873
00:40:48,280 --> 00:40:50,120
Speaker 4: But of the people that are coming in, you know,

874
00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:54,240
Speaker 4: veteran presences, you know, filling some needs, but also nothing crazy,

875
00:40:54,320 --> 00:40:55,960
Speaker 4: which you want to build off what you have but

876
00:40:56,040 --> 00:40:57,080
Speaker 4: also address issues.

877
00:40:57,560 --> 00:41:00,640
Speaker 5: Yeah, when you get tight against the hap and have

878
00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:05,239
Speaker 5: to make changes, you have to manage what you do

879
00:41:05,320 --> 00:41:08,000
Speaker 5: in freegency a little bit. And Brian's mentioned they spent

880
00:41:08,080 --> 00:41:10,759
Speaker 5: a lot anyway, seventy five million that year, but they

881
00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:14,160
Speaker 5: really this year couldn't come in and just break the

882
00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:20,359
Speaker 5: bank on guys they had. When they decided that ray

883
00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:24,440
Speaker 5: Sean and Darius were clearly not fits for what they

884
00:41:24,520 --> 00:41:28,239
Speaker 5: wanted to do. Well, that's fine, except now you've got

885
00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:32,680
Speaker 5: situations where you need those players. Well, it would have

886
00:41:32,719 --> 00:41:35,640
Speaker 5: been hard to go out and get top of the

887
00:41:35,719 --> 00:41:39,520
Speaker 5: market guy in those two situations. So again, are they

888
00:41:39,800 --> 00:41:42,279
Speaker 5: worlds better from a just pure Hey look at my

889
00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:45,279
Speaker 5: depth chart and with this talent. No, but I think

890
00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:48,880
Speaker 5: their scheme fit better and I think they've made logical

891
00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:50,760
Speaker 5: moves in some important places.

892
00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:53,279
Speaker 1: Well, they're trying to win this year, right, I mean

893
00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:56,520
Speaker 1: that they lost the chance to win the division on

894
00:41:56,640 --> 00:41:59,719
Speaker 1: the final play, close to the final play of the

895
00:41:59,760 --> 00:42:03,120
Speaker 1: Sea so they're not looking at it as the roster

896
00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:07,560
Speaker 1: long term. They're looking at this year and for them,

897
00:42:08,120 --> 00:42:10,239
Speaker 1: the guys that they went out and signed, they're looking

898
00:42:10,280 --> 00:42:13,160
Speaker 1: to fill gaps. I mean, Ronald Darby is thirty years old.

899
00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:15,960
Speaker 1: That's old for a football player, right, but they think

900
00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:19,120
Speaker 1: you can still play. And Eric Armstead is thirty years old,

901
00:42:19,320 --> 00:42:21,759
Speaker 1: Mors is thirty one. Mors is thirty one. So they

902
00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:25,239
Speaker 1: are clearly looking at these guys and the value for

903
00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:28,520
Speaker 1: twenty twenty four, even though because of their cap they're

904
00:42:28,560 --> 00:42:31,160
Speaker 1: having to make these multi year deals and push some

905
00:42:31,280 --> 00:42:33,759
Speaker 1: of the money out. But you're always trying to have

906
00:42:33,840 --> 00:42:37,719
Speaker 1: an eye towards two, three, four, five years down the road,

907
00:42:37,880 --> 00:42:39,879
Speaker 1: and that's where the draft comes in, which is next

908
00:42:39,960 --> 00:42:40,480
Speaker 1: on their list.

909
00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:43,160
Speaker 4: It's good for me if I'm looking at from a

910
00:42:43,239 --> 00:42:45,800
Speaker 4: fan perspective. I felt like last year maybe they you know,

911
00:42:45,880 --> 00:42:48,120
Speaker 4: other than the addition of Calvin Ridley off after his

912
00:42:48,200 --> 00:42:50,600
Speaker 4: suspension was up, it was a similar roster of the

913
00:42:50,680 --> 00:42:53,080
Speaker 4: year before where you finished. Yeah, there was a great

914
00:42:53,200 --> 00:42:55,640
Speaker 4: you know, playoff game in there. Comeback. That was awesome.

915
00:42:55,760 --> 00:42:57,360
Speaker 4: He won the division, but that was a nine to

916
00:42:57,480 --> 00:42:59,960
Speaker 4: eight team. Then you got pretty much same roster nine

917
00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:02,440
Speaker 4: eight team, And yes there was things that happened throughout

918
00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:05,120
Speaker 4: the season, of course, but I want to see change

919
00:43:05,120 --> 00:43:07,239
Speaker 4: in the off season. Even if you're a super Bowl team,

920
00:43:07,280 --> 00:43:09,560
Speaker 4: you see change in the off season, and we're certainly

921
00:43:09,600 --> 00:43:11,600
Speaker 4: seeing that so far. We'll obviously see that with the

922
00:43:11,680 --> 00:43:14,360
Speaker 4: draft as well, but so far I feel comfortable with

923
00:43:14,440 --> 00:43:17,160
Speaker 4: the plays that they're making so far, at least the

924
00:43:17,239 --> 00:43:19,120
Speaker 4: additions that we've seen through free agency.

925
00:43:19,239 --> 00:43:22,160
Speaker 1: That's a good point because the Jaguars did bring everybody

926
00:43:22,239 --> 00:43:28,319
Speaker 1: back off of that team, and usually your turnovers about

927
00:43:28,360 --> 00:43:31,000
Speaker 1: a third of your roster, which means you're going to

928
00:43:31,080 --> 00:43:32,760
Speaker 1: lose a couple of starters out of your starting twenty

929
00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:36,080
Speaker 1: two that didn't hit them last year. They were able

930
00:43:36,160 --> 00:43:38,719
Speaker 1: to adjust the cap and make that one work. But

931
00:43:38,920 --> 00:43:40,000
Speaker 1: you know, new Blood, this.

932
00:43:40,040 --> 00:43:42,320
Speaker 4: Is much more familiar position I think for most football

933
00:43:42,360 --> 00:43:43,719
Speaker 4: teams kind of replace and can.

934
00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:45,239
Speaker 1: Run you, and you've got to bring guys in that

935
00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:47,040
Speaker 1: you can develop that are your guys, and you've also

936
00:43:47,080 --> 00:43:49,440
Speaker 1: got to keep the cap replanished. You can't. I'll give

937
00:43:49,440 --> 00:43:52,480
Speaker 1: you an example, because I'm a bit of a cap geek, right,

938
00:43:53,040 --> 00:43:55,680
Speaker 1: the New Orleans Saints look like the two thousand and

939
00:43:56,040 --> 00:43:59,920
Speaker 1: two Jacksonville Jaguars. They have been keeping everybody, keeping every

940
00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:03,719
Speaker 1: you know, extending contracts and pushing money out, and they're

941
00:44:03,760 --> 00:44:05,480
Speaker 1: in a position where they got unto the cap this year.

942
00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:10,320
Speaker 1: They're okay this year. Next year they have already a

943
00:44:10,400 --> 00:44:13,560
Speaker 1: fifty five million dollar deficit. They're fifty five million dollars

944
00:44:13,719 --> 00:44:15,960
Speaker 1: over the cap that's projected for next year with only

945
00:44:16,040 --> 00:44:18,520
Speaker 1: forty two players on the roster. You never want to

946
00:44:18,560 --> 00:44:20,279
Speaker 1: get to that point. You never want to get to

947
00:44:20,320 --> 00:44:23,799
Speaker 1: a point where you just keep keeping on and don't

948
00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:26,040
Speaker 1: and don't because it kills your cap.

949
00:44:26,200 --> 00:44:27,520
Speaker 4: It will be a fire sale at some point.

950
00:44:27,520 --> 00:44:29,040
Speaker 1: I'm sure for them to blow up next year.

951
00:44:29,320 --> 00:44:32,280
Speaker 4: Let's go to some of our Microsoft's social media questions

952
00:44:32,360 --> 00:44:34,920
Speaker 4: powered by Microsoft. It's also an ozone mail bag because

953
00:44:34,960 --> 00:44:38,320
Speaker 4: we know our ozone listeners, reader's viewers, they all have

954
00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:41,239
Speaker 4: their questions. John, so I appreciate you sharing these with us.

955
00:44:41,600 --> 00:44:43,400
Speaker 4: Keith from Duval by way of Miami. This is a

956
00:44:43,400 --> 00:44:45,719
Speaker 4: good point because I thought of this recently. Stakes we

957
00:44:45,719 --> 00:44:47,600
Speaker 4: haven't talked about it after that deal fell through. But

958
00:44:47,760 --> 00:44:49,400
Speaker 4: what are your thoughts on the kicker position.

959
00:44:50,320 --> 00:44:52,359
Speaker 2: Well, they have Riley Patterson on the roster.

960
00:44:52,960 --> 00:44:56,239
Speaker 5: Brandon McManus was allowed to hit free agency, which I

961
00:44:56,239 --> 00:45:01,200
Speaker 5: don't think was a huge surprise. I think right now

962
00:45:01,239 --> 00:45:04,440
Speaker 5: they're in decent shape because Riley's has shown he can

963
00:45:04,480 --> 00:45:08,200
Speaker 5: make big kicks. I would be surprised if they don't.

964
00:45:08,760 --> 00:45:12,359
Speaker 5: I mean, they'll certainly have competition for him. I would

965
00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:15,160
Speaker 5: be a little surprised if that competition is not a

966
00:45:15,239 --> 00:45:17,680
Speaker 5: draft pick. I think they'll draft a kicker at some

967
00:45:17,840 --> 00:45:21,680
Speaker 5: point and try to find the guy that can be

968
00:45:21,840 --> 00:45:23,759
Speaker 5: a X number a year guy.

969
00:45:23,880 --> 00:45:25,560
Speaker 1: When I was in Kansas City last year, the rumor

970
00:45:25,800 --> 00:45:28,040
Speaker 1: was that they were trying to get the kid from Michigan.

971
00:45:28,960 --> 00:45:29,840
Speaker 1: Is it Jake Mooney that?

972
00:45:30,520 --> 00:45:32,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was what. Yeah, they were I think they

973
00:45:32,560 --> 00:45:33,239
Speaker 2: were trying to get him.

974
00:45:33,239 --> 00:45:33,880
Speaker 6: That was the rumor.

975
00:45:34,080 --> 00:45:36,879
Speaker 1: And then the Niners jumped over the Jaguars and took him.

976
00:45:37,800 --> 00:45:39,560
Speaker 1: So they were trying to address the position. You're always

977
00:45:39,560 --> 00:45:41,520
Speaker 1: trying to address it with a young guy that you

978
00:45:41,600 --> 00:45:43,520
Speaker 1: can bring in here and be that long term solution

979
00:45:43,600 --> 00:45:44,919
Speaker 1: for you. I don't know if there's one in the draft.

980
00:45:44,960 --> 00:45:46,920
Speaker 1: I haven't looked at the kickers. You haven't been focused

981
00:45:46,920 --> 00:45:47,759
Speaker 1: on the offensive line.

982
00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:49,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, hopefully I'm not taking a kicker at seventeen,

983
00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:50,840
Speaker 4: so that'll be a little.

984
00:45:50,840 --> 00:45:52,560
Speaker 1: Little fit Joseph Astian Janakowski.

985
00:45:52,640 --> 00:45:54,560
Speaker 4: In this year, it's a little farther down the line, hopefully.

986
00:45:55,080 --> 00:45:58,120
Speaker 4: Our second question for John is ericrom Jacksonville Beach. She said,

987
00:45:58,680 --> 00:46:00,440
Speaker 4: we talked a little bit about this. What will the

988
00:46:00,520 --> 00:46:02,680
Speaker 4: Jaguars do with wide receiver now? Round one?

989
00:46:03,120 --> 00:46:03,279
Speaker 6: Right?

990
00:46:03,960 --> 00:46:05,120
Speaker 4: I don't know. Round one?

991
00:46:05,200 --> 00:46:09,359
Speaker 5: You think, well, that was the automatic sort of quick trigger. Oh,

992
00:46:09,440 --> 00:46:11,920
Speaker 5: they lost Ridley's a huge need. They got to go

993
00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:15,960
Speaker 5: get one a round one. I would be very surprised

994
00:46:16,040 --> 00:46:18,960
Speaker 5: if they went after round one, considering what we've all

995
00:46:19,040 --> 00:46:23,320
Speaker 5: been talking about that Trent likes big people and the

996
00:46:23,440 --> 00:46:27,560
Speaker 5: need at corner. So I think I think if something

997
00:46:27,680 --> 00:46:31,239
Speaker 5: fell in their lap where they could, you know, if

998
00:46:31,840 --> 00:46:35,000
Speaker 5: a veteran out there made sense, they could still make

999
00:46:35,040 --> 00:46:40,440
Speaker 5: the same maneuver with Zay being available for release. But

1000
00:46:40,920 --> 00:46:43,520
Speaker 5: I kind of think that they don't see it as

1001
00:46:43,520 --> 00:46:46,120
Speaker 5: a huge need. And I don't know that for sure,

1002
00:46:46,200 --> 00:46:48,680
Speaker 5: but I wouldn't I wouldn't be surprised if they don't

1003
00:46:48,719 --> 00:46:50,160
Speaker 5: consider it a hot button issue.

1004
00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:52,560
Speaker 1: Right, now, you know, there's part of me that says,

1005
00:46:52,920 --> 00:46:55,799
Speaker 1: no receivers in the first round unless you're Marvin Harrison junior. Right,

1006
00:46:55,840 --> 00:46:58,080
Speaker 1: that's six foot four guy. I know, there's the Brian

1007
00:46:58,160 --> 00:47:00,880
Speaker 1: Thomas kid from LSU that has that sort of a frame.

1008
00:47:01,280 --> 00:47:03,440
Speaker 1: And then I remember last year that Zay Flowers was

1009
00:47:03,480 --> 00:47:06,560
Speaker 1: a late first round selection by the Ravens and he

1010
00:47:06,680 --> 00:47:08,880
Speaker 1: was really productive until that, you know, that playoff game

1011
00:47:08,920 --> 00:47:11,040
Speaker 1: against Kansas City. I mean, there's a really, really good

1012
00:47:11,080 --> 00:47:13,719
Speaker 1: player for them. So I suppose if you're sitting there

1013
00:47:13,760 --> 00:47:16,040
Speaker 1: and there's some guy that you have a high grade on,

1014
00:47:16,320 --> 00:47:18,800
Speaker 1: if I'm going to be a best available player purist,

1015
00:47:19,400 --> 00:47:21,319
Speaker 1: well then okay, if you've got a guy who can

1016
00:47:21,360 --> 00:47:24,719
Speaker 1: be an impact player. I just for the reasons that

1017
00:47:24,800 --> 00:47:26,520
Speaker 1: John has talked about on some of the shows this week,

1018
00:47:26,560 --> 00:47:28,800
Speaker 1: there's so many receivers now the game is at the

1019
00:47:28,840 --> 00:47:31,600
Speaker 1: college level is a passing game too, and there's just

1020
00:47:31,800 --> 00:47:34,919
Speaker 1: tons of receivers out there. Go find your guy. There's

1021
00:47:34,960 --> 00:47:38,399
Speaker 1: only so many big men on the planet who can move,

1022
00:47:39,080 --> 00:47:41,200
Speaker 1: and I just don't want to get away from those guys.

1023
00:47:42,120 --> 00:47:44,399
Speaker 4: I do think we should mention today the other person

1024
00:47:44,480 --> 00:47:47,160
Speaker 4: that's been in the building via trade. Is Mac Jones

1025
00:47:47,280 --> 00:47:49,440
Speaker 4: backup quarterback kind of the role they're seeing him as

1026
00:47:49,560 --> 00:47:51,640
Speaker 4: he was in the same draft class as Trevor Lawrence.

1027
00:47:51,920 --> 00:47:53,640
Speaker 4: Things did not work out in New England. That was

1028
00:47:53,640 --> 00:47:55,319
Speaker 4: a bit of a mess up there. Not all his fault.

1029
00:47:55,400 --> 00:47:58,520
Speaker 4: They had, you know, three different offensive coordinators, one of

1030
00:47:58,520 --> 00:48:01,080
Speaker 4: which was not a real offensive course coordinator. So that's

1031
00:48:01,120 --> 00:48:03,799
Speaker 4: a tough situation to be in. But he's Jacksonville kid,

1032
00:48:03,840 --> 00:48:06,360
Speaker 4: He's coming back home. I have to imagine Doug Peterson's

1033
00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:07,800
Speaker 4: kind of like, let's see what I can do with this.

1034
00:48:08,000 --> 00:48:10,960
Speaker 4: Maybe I can make something out of it. John low risk,

1035
00:48:11,040 --> 00:48:13,640
Speaker 4: high reward, maybe a solid backup if you need him

1036
00:48:13,680 --> 00:48:13,960
Speaker 4: to play.

1037
00:48:14,120 --> 00:48:20,080
Speaker 5: I think you say Zachy right, it's low risk, low cost,

1038
00:48:20,920 --> 00:48:24,000
Speaker 5: a six round pick, and if he's here for a year,

1039
00:48:24,719 --> 00:48:27,320
Speaker 5: then you've got a six round pick that you're you know,

1040
00:48:28,239 --> 00:48:32,480
Speaker 5: paying minimally for a backup quarterback. And from max perspective,

1041
00:48:35,200 --> 00:48:37,960
Speaker 5: he said it in the pressure a minute ago, I

1042
00:48:38,040 --> 00:48:39,600
Speaker 5: want to get the trains back. I want to get

1043
00:48:39,640 --> 00:48:43,279
Speaker 5: the train back on the tracks. So he's a young guy,

1044
00:48:43,360 --> 00:48:45,880
Speaker 5: he's got plenty of experience. He talked a little bit

1045
00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:49,320
Speaker 5: in the presser about just how fast things move for

1046
00:48:49,400 --> 00:48:53,160
Speaker 5: a rookie when you're drafted, you come in and all

1047
00:48:53,200 --> 00:48:54,319
Speaker 5: of a sudden, you're the guy. You're the guy, You're

1048
00:48:54,360 --> 00:48:56,359
Speaker 5: the guy. I think this year could be good for him.

1049
00:48:56,640 --> 00:48:59,719
Speaker 5: You're with a quarterback guru and Doug. You don't have

1050
00:48:59,760 --> 00:49:02,239
Speaker 5: to worry about the pressure of what's the meeting and

1051
00:49:02,280 --> 00:49:04,160
Speaker 5: save abman? What's Belichick going to save abm it? What's

1052
00:49:04,160 --> 00:49:08,040
Speaker 5: this gonna happen? What's this gonna happen? And it's entirely

1053
00:49:08,080 --> 00:49:11,560
Speaker 5: conceivable for mac if if Trevor gets hurt for a month,

1054
00:49:11,640 --> 00:49:15,799
Speaker 5: which let's hope not, but if it does, he comes

1055
00:49:15,840 --> 00:49:20,160
Speaker 5: in plays well, it goes three and one. The quarterback

1056
00:49:20,360 --> 00:49:23,520
Speaker 5: needy free agent team in twenty twenty five is beating

1057
00:49:23,560 --> 00:49:26,520
Speaker 5: down his door and so that scenario could easily play

1058
00:49:26,520 --> 00:49:29,560
Speaker 5: out for him. And he's a good kid, even though

1059
00:49:29,560 --> 00:49:32,040
Speaker 5: he went to Bowls. This Episcopal grad hopes he does well.

1060
00:49:32,160 --> 00:49:34,120
Speaker 1: Listen, he was an academic All American with a four

1061
00:49:34,160 --> 00:49:37,680
Speaker 1: point zero at Alabama. Okay, he already has his master's degree,

1062
00:49:37,719 --> 00:49:40,600
Speaker 1: and he's made twelve million dollars, almost thirteen million dollars

1063
00:49:40,640 --> 00:49:41,880
Speaker 1: playing football. At the end of this year, it'll be

1064
00:49:41,880 --> 00:49:43,879
Speaker 1: about fifteen million dollars. He's at home.

1065
00:49:44,200 --> 00:49:44,319
Speaker 6: Right.

1066
00:49:44,400 --> 00:49:46,440
Speaker 1: We heard Gabe Davis talk about being back in the

1067
00:49:46,520 --> 00:49:49,080
Speaker 1: sunshine in Florida, the big smile on his face, that

1068
00:49:49,160 --> 00:49:51,000
Speaker 1: he's glad to be home. I think he's in the

1069
00:49:51,040 --> 00:49:54,919
Speaker 1: situation where he can relax and work on himself, which

1070
00:49:54,960 --> 00:49:58,040
Speaker 1: he couldn't do as the starting quarterback. Right. I think

1071
00:49:58,040 --> 00:50:00,920
Speaker 1: it's a great situation for him, and clearly he's excited

1072
00:50:00,960 --> 00:50:02,680
Speaker 1: about it. I love the quip about his mom coming

1073
00:50:02,719 --> 00:50:03,520
Speaker 1: to pick him up from work.

1074
00:50:03,600 --> 00:50:07,239
Speaker 5: I'll promise you this, if my kid's living at home,

1075
00:50:07,360 --> 00:50:09,120
Speaker 5: he's made that kind of money, You're not picking up

1076
00:50:09,360 --> 00:50:11,520
Speaker 5: paying the mortgage for the next couple of months.

1077
00:50:11,560 --> 00:50:13,000
Speaker 4: You're not gonna be his super driver and come pick

1078
00:50:13,040 --> 00:50:13,279
Speaker 4: up up.

1079
00:50:13,320 --> 00:50:14,919
Speaker 2: I give him free rent. I gave him much money

1080
00:50:14,920 --> 00:50:16,799
Speaker 2: for you for you for a couple of months. Mac

1081
00:50:16,840 --> 00:50:19,200
Speaker 2: ain't getting free rent. Right, That was my kid. Maybe

1082
00:50:19,239 --> 00:50:20,360
Speaker 2: his mom feels different.

1083
00:50:20,280 --> 00:50:22,480
Speaker 4: Well, I'm sure she's happy to have him home. A

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