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Speaker 1: Music Saved Me.

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Speaker 2: That's how music is. You know.

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Speaker 3: You can use it to escape your everyday grind and

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Speaker 3: it to find God. You can use it to find

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Speaker 3: a love in your heart for someone or something. There's

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Speaker 2: Crazy to me.

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Speaker 3: I mean that's why I just like I'm in the

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Speaker 3: music business, but I think of it more like I'm

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Speaker 1: Well, I'm Buzznight and I do host the Taking a

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Speaker 1: Walk podcast, and you're on the Music Save Me podcast,

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Speaker 1: which is normally hosted by Lynn Hoffman, but I'm sitting

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Speaker 1: in for Lynn on this one, and we have our

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Speaker 1: special guest today, a man who has been on quite

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Speaker 1: a journey and he's a transparent soul, so he's going

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Speaker 1: to tell us about his journey. Way Jennings, thanks for

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Speaker 1: being on Music Save Me.

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Speaker 2: Oh, you're very welcome. You're very welcome.

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Speaker 1: So do you believe music has sort of supernatural healing powers?

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Speaker 2: I do.

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Speaker 3: I believe that to myself, to my core, I believe

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Speaker 3: that music was given to us by God as a

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Speaker 3: tool to use to heal each other. You know what

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Speaker 3: I mean because I've believe this in a long long time.

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Speaker 3: You know, the way you communicate with people has more

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Speaker 3: they can take that any way they want to take it,

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Speaker 3: If you talk to them on the phone, you could

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Speaker 3: say one thing wrong and they'll completely shut their ears off.

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Speaker 3: If you go into a recording studio and you sing

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Speaker 3: that message but it wasn't put beautiful music behind it,

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Speaker 3: and you put it out there the way that can,

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Speaker 3: the best way possible. It's gonna be heard and understood.

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Speaker 3: You're not gonna be talking to somebody. You're not gonna

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Speaker 3: You're gonna be delivering a beautiful message to somebody, wrapped

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Speaker 3: in music, and it's gonna be received in the.

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Speaker 2: Best way possible.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, I do believe that that music can save

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Speaker 1: When is the first time you realize music had these powers.

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Speaker 1: Do you remember, Oh.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I do. I mean at a very very young age.

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Speaker 3: I guess the best example would be when I first

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Speaker 3: I mean, it sort of slowly shows you a picture

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 3: It's huge because that's the only way we can talk

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Speaker 3: Music, I'm telling you, man, it's stronger than any bomb,

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Speaker 1: Honestly, you mentioned Randy Travis, who is some of the

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Speaker 3: Well, there's no very many, very many music musicians out

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Speaker 3: I mean, I go I played biker events all the time,

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Speaker 3: And I preach sobriety, and I don't preach that everybody

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Speaker 3: Every door has ever opened in my life, I opened

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Speaker 3: And that's what he's been using me for as a tool.

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Speaker 3: And this musical journey I'm on has been a beautiful

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Speaker 1: Honestly, how does it make you feel when you know

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Speaker 3: It makes me feel blessed because it wasn't my music

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Speaker 2: That led me there.

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Speaker 3: And I'm not saying that every song I put out

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Speaker 3: My pastor said it best the other the other day.

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Speaker 3: He said, you can't always just just shin the light

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Speaker 1: Has it been difficult for you being so transparent about

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Speaker 3: You can't photoshop your life. You can photoshop a picture.

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Speaker 2: I want to put out great music.

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Speaker 3: I want to put everything I have into it, all

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Speaker 2: I don't want to work for me, and.

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Speaker 3: I don't want to work, you know, to go out

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Speaker 3: what's the old adage that you can give somebody a

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Speaker 1: Can you talk about a couple of your songs in

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Speaker 1: music has saved you up.

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Speaker 3: If it wasn't for the sinning, it was a good one.

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Speaker 3: It was a point when I had just gotten out

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Speaker 2: You know what I mean.

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Speaker 3: And if it wasn't for the Sinate, it was a

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Speaker 3: At the end of it, we put a really great

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Speaker 1: Well, I'd love to do it again. I want to

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Speaker 3: That's a hard question, and it's one that doesn't have

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Speaker 3: I'd be doing something around then right there, but no

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Speaker 3: matter what it was, I'd be doing God's work. That's

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Speaker 1: Way Jennings, it's an honor to meet you. Thank you

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Speaker 1: for being on the Music Save Me podcast, and thank

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Speaker 1: you for all of your messages, and thank you for

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Speaker 3: You're very welcome. It's been a pleasure, sir. Thank you.

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Speaker 3: You're easy to talk to.

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Speaker 1: You know that