1 00:00:00,800 --> 00:00:03,800 Speaker 1: This is the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast 2 00:00:03,880 --> 00:00:04,640 Speaker 1: with iHeartRadio. 3 00:00:05,880 --> 00:00:09,360 Speaker 2: Hey everyone, welcome to the Almost Simois podcast, where we'll 4 00:00:09,440 --> 00:00:15,440 Speaker 2: be breaking down today the Golden Bachelor Episode two. Wowie zowie. 5 00:00:16,920 --> 00:00:22,439 Speaker 2: This episode was incredible. Anyone who watches this episode, in 6 00:00:22,440 --> 00:00:26,239 Speaker 2: my opinion, will be hooked and we'll be watching every 7 00:00:26,280 --> 00:00:29,040 Speaker 2: single week. Last week, I loved it, cute, but it 8 00:00:29,080 --> 00:00:30,920 Speaker 2: was night one for me, and now that we are 9 00:00:30,960 --> 00:00:35,199 Speaker 2: in this ugh I'm dying for more. Ben, I know 10 00:00:35,240 --> 00:00:36,560 Speaker 2: that you feel the exact same way. 11 00:00:37,280 --> 00:00:39,920 Speaker 1: You know. I'm interested Ashley. I do feel the same way. 12 00:00:40,600 --> 00:00:43,479 Speaker 1: I am interested in your reaction because I can tell 13 00:00:43,520 --> 00:00:46,320 Speaker 1: there's a difference in your energy. I know, I know 14 00:00:47,000 --> 00:00:52,400 Speaker 1: you know the I think. Last week I came in hot, 15 00:00:52,800 --> 00:00:56,400 Speaker 1: fired up, Oh man, it's on TV. Finally, it's super exciting, 16 00:00:56,400 --> 00:00:59,520 Speaker 1: and you didn't hate it, but you I liked it. 17 00:01:00,120 --> 00:01:02,600 Speaker 2: Was like, okay, I liked it. I honestly didn't feel 18 00:01:02,600 --> 00:01:07,600 Speaker 2: a ton different from a regular night one. I just 19 00:01:07,959 --> 00:01:11,200 Speaker 2: loved it. This week we started to like see the 20 00:01:12,120 --> 00:01:14,800 Speaker 2: big differences in the age. 21 00:01:16,280 --> 00:01:17,120 Speaker 1: What do you mean by stories? 22 00:01:17,240 --> 00:01:17,920 Speaker 2: The histories? 23 00:01:18,240 --> 00:01:24,600 Speaker 1: The history, so the stories, the past experiences talking about 24 00:01:25,160 --> 00:01:29,000 Speaker 1: the past and the things that have happened, that is, 25 00:01:29,200 --> 00:01:31,080 Speaker 1: those are the moments that really pulled something out of you. 26 00:01:31,760 --> 00:01:35,760 Speaker 2: And the way that Gary was so receptive to them. 27 00:01:36,160 --> 00:01:41,720 Speaker 2: This man's kindness and warmth and act of listening just 28 00:01:42,440 --> 00:01:44,720 Speaker 2: this is where he got to shine. The way that 29 00:01:44,760 --> 00:01:49,040 Speaker 2: he uses the women's names, like he's like, oh, Nancy, 30 00:01:49,200 --> 00:01:52,560 Speaker 2: and like just relates to it and it's the most 31 00:01:52,760 --> 00:01:57,400 Speaker 2: wonderful ways. This was great And it was so freaking 32 00:01:57,600 --> 00:02:00,600 Speaker 2: fast the forty minutes, which it is with the commercials, 33 00:02:01,520 --> 00:02:04,320 Speaker 2: you're just dying for more and like my mom has 34 00:02:04,360 --> 00:02:06,480 Speaker 2: always said, leave people wanting more. 35 00:02:07,640 --> 00:02:10,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, I do think it's a little fast. I think 36 00:02:10,040 --> 00:02:12,480 Speaker 1: that's my biggest complaint right now is I would say 37 00:02:12,520 --> 00:02:17,280 Speaker 1: it feels like there can be no story development. It's 38 00:02:17,360 --> 00:02:20,520 Speaker 1: kind of flies through. We get bits and pieces of 39 00:02:20,560 --> 00:02:24,280 Speaker 1: a few women each episode, but we don't get an 40 00:02:24,280 --> 00:02:28,040 Speaker 1: overarching We don't get like a secondary story. We get 41 00:02:28,040 --> 00:02:30,320 Speaker 1: the main stories of each women, but we don't get 42 00:02:30,320 --> 00:02:33,040 Speaker 1: the behind the scenes stories really like maybe we do 43 00:02:33,120 --> 00:02:33,880 Speaker 1: on the other shows. 44 00:02:33,960 --> 00:02:36,200 Speaker 2: Well, we only had a one one on one and 45 00:02:36,280 --> 00:02:38,119 Speaker 2: a group date. We didn't have the third date. 46 00:02:38,919 --> 00:02:41,320 Speaker 1: That's a good point that was missing. I think this 47 00:02:41,360 --> 00:02:43,240 Speaker 1: show's only going to get better. My point is not that, hey, 48 00:02:43,280 --> 00:02:45,280 Speaker 1: I think it's a bit massive mistake. I get it. 49 00:02:45,320 --> 00:02:47,440 Speaker 1: I leave people wanting more, you know. I think it's 50 00:02:47,480 --> 00:02:51,880 Speaker 1: good with Paradise obviously coming along for the ride now 51 00:02:51,960 --> 00:02:54,640 Speaker 1: of the Golden Bachelor, it's it's good to keep it short. 52 00:02:54,720 --> 00:02:56,720 Speaker 1: I just think now the episodes are going to get 53 00:02:56,760 --> 00:02:59,400 Speaker 1: better because there's going to be less people, and as 54 00:02:59,400 --> 00:03:03,720 Speaker 1: there's less they can really start to expand on some 55 00:03:03,760 --> 00:03:06,680 Speaker 1: of these storylines that maybe we haven't gotten full pictures 56 00:03:06,680 --> 00:03:09,400 Speaker 1: of yet. I do want to highlight before we break 57 00:03:09,440 --> 00:03:13,760 Speaker 1: down one section of before you kind of break down 58 00:03:13,760 --> 00:03:15,960 Speaker 1: the episode, there is one moment that really stood out 59 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:18,480 Speaker 1: to me with Gary this episode like really blew me 60 00:03:18,600 --> 00:03:21,799 Speaker 1: up away. His reaction to when I don't know the 61 00:03:22,160 --> 00:03:26,080 Speaker 1: woman's name, but she gave him a compliment and he 62 00:03:26,120 --> 00:03:30,200 Speaker 1: looked up this guy He goes, oh my gosh, that 63 00:03:30,680 --> 00:03:34,200 Speaker 1: is such a nice thing to say about me. That 64 00:03:34,280 --> 00:03:37,800 Speaker 1: means so much. And it was with this like almost 65 00:03:38,320 --> 00:03:43,360 Speaker 1: cartoonish genuineness, meaning it was like and it felt like 66 00:03:43,400 --> 00:03:47,440 Speaker 1: a very big overreaction to something that was said, but 67 00:03:47,640 --> 00:03:50,240 Speaker 1: there was a genuiness that makes me go, this is 68 00:03:50,360 --> 00:03:52,480 Speaker 1: just who he is. He is appreciative. 69 00:03:52,560 --> 00:03:55,320 Speaker 2: Oh did they find this man? He is such a 70 00:03:55,360 --> 00:04:01,280 Speaker 2: freaking treasure. Okay, So I'm thinking, like, how frustrated do 71 00:04:01,320 --> 00:04:04,160 Speaker 2: you think that the whole like ABC team is that 72 00:04:04,440 --> 00:04:06,840 Speaker 2: this show is an hour and Bachelor of Paradise is 73 00:04:06,880 --> 00:04:07,560 Speaker 2: two hours? 74 00:04:08,080 --> 00:04:10,520 Speaker 1: Well, I don't think they're I don't think they're. Yeah, 75 00:04:10,520 --> 00:04:13,280 Speaker 1: I'm sure they're, like, goodness, gracious. I think this was 76 00:04:13,320 --> 00:04:16,080 Speaker 1: such a risk and such a test for them that 77 00:04:16,120 --> 00:04:17,720 Speaker 1: they knew going in this was either going to be 78 00:04:17,760 --> 00:04:21,599 Speaker 1: a massive hit or a massive failure. And I think 79 00:04:21,640 --> 00:04:23,920 Speaker 1: they've they've kind of hedged their bets. 80 00:04:24,160 --> 00:04:26,200 Speaker 2: Could it have really been a massive failure? 81 00:04:26,680 --> 00:04:28,719 Speaker 1: I never thought so, but I know they. 82 00:04:28,560 --> 00:04:31,640 Speaker 2: Did because thinking about like what the ratings of like 83 00:04:31,920 --> 00:04:35,320 Speaker 2: Zach and Charity season, How could how could this be 84 00:04:35,360 --> 00:04:37,960 Speaker 2: a failure? It would have matched, It would have absolutely 85 00:04:37,960 --> 00:04:38,760 Speaker 2: matched those ratings. 86 00:04:38,760 --> 00:04:42,440 Speaker 1: I know they they I mean, I know they've had shows, right, 87 00:04:42,480 --> 00:04:44,560 Speaker 1: They've had many of shows that they've created, actually they 88 00:04:44,600 --> 00:04:46,640 Speaker 1: think are going to be huge excesses that never even 89 00:04:46,640 --> 00:04:49,599 Speaker 1: get off the ground. I think TV's hard, and I 90 00:04:49,600 --> 00:04:52,479 Speaker 1: think this show is so new and so different that 91 00:04:52,560 --> 00:04:54,559 Speaker 1: I do think there was that risk that maybe nobody 92 00:04:54,600 --> 00:04:58,320 Speaker 1: would tune in maybe people are just over networked network TV, 93 00:04:58,640 --> 00:05:01,479 Speaker 1: but as we've mentioned, the show is crushing all of 94 00:05:01,520 --> 00:05:04,279 Speaker 1: those things. I think it's changing the way people see 95 00:05:04,320 --> 00:05:08,080 Speaker 1: network television. I actually believe people will look back on 96 00:05:08,120 --> 00:05:12,160 Speaker 1: The Golden Bachelor and be like, we design content based 97 00:05:12,200 --> 00:05:15,000 Speaker 1: on that show because of the success of that show, 98 00:05:15,040 --> 00:05:18,520 Speaker 1: and we're going to get these great, heartwarming shows that 99 00:05:18,600 --> 00:05:22,280 Speaker 1: tell really incredible stories, that have elements of drama, that 100 00:05:22,400 --> 00:05:26,479 Speaker 1: have elements of emotion, elements of little suspense because of 101 00:05:26,520 --> 00:05:28,480 Speaker 1: The Golden Bachelor. I think it's that big a show. 102 00:05:28,560 --> 00:05:31,880 Speaker 2: It could change Hollywood because they always know actors and 103 00:05:31,880 --> 00:05:33,960 Speaker 2: actresses always complained that once they hit a certain age 104 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:38,159 Speaker 2: they can't get roles anymore, and talk about maybe tapping 105 00:05:38,200 --> 00:05:41,359 Speaker 2: into some desire that people have to watch older romance movies, 106 00:05:42,440 --> 00:05:46,480 Speaker 2: romance movies with older you know leads. Sure, but let's 107 00:05:46,520 --> 00:05:48,160 Speaker 2: just tell you, guys, if you haven't listened to the 108 00:05:48,160 --> 00:05:50,839 Speaker 2: Headlines episode this week, we do dive deep into the 109 00:05:50,960 --> 00:05:54,320 Speaker 2: ratings of this series, and I think that the ratings 110 00:05:54,320 --> 00:05:57,240 Speaker 2: are going to go up even more because if you 111 00:05:57,360 --> 00:06:00,520 Speaker 2: had caught this this episode, and I know we don't 112 00:06:00,560 --> 00:06:03,719 Speaker 2: really like Channel Surf very much anymore, but if somebody 113 00:06:03,760 --> 00:06:05,560 Speaker 2: told you got to watch the Golden Bachelor, and you 114 00:06:05,640 --> 00:06:07,880 Speaker 2: end up watching episode two. I feel like you are 115 00:06:08,040 --> 00:06:09,039 Speaker 2: in for the whole ride. 116 00:06:09,640 --> 00:06:12,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, you're not stopping Ashley before we get kicked off here, 117 00:06:12,960 --> 00:06:14,400 Speaker 1: and we do need to get kicked off and break 118 00:06:14,440 --> 00:06:16,479 Speaker 1: down episode. I do want to ask you a very inappropriate, 119 00:06:16,480 --> 00:06:17,119 Speaker 1: weird question. 120 00:06:17,360 --> 00:06:18,000 Speaker 2: Oh my goodness. 121 00:06:18,040 --> 00:06:22,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, you or my go to for all these questions 122 00:06:22,200 --> 00:06:24,120 Speaker 1: in my life that I can't ask my wife, or 123 00:06:24,120 --> 00:06:26,080 Speaker 1: that maybe I forgot to ask her before she left 124 00:06:26,080 --> 00:06:26,440 Speaker 1: her work. 125 00:06:26,600 --> 00:06:28,479 Speaker 2: And then I tell like how much plastic surgery did 126 00:06:28,520 --> 00:06:33,920 Speaker 2: the ladies have? No, that's not my question yet, because, 127 00:06:34,360 --> 00:06:37,080 Speaker 2: like I said last week's episode, there's some filler in 128 00:06:37,160 --> 00:06:37,839 Speaker 2: those chicks. 129 00:06:38,520 --> 00:06:42,119 Speaker 1: Go for girls, go for it. You know. My question 130 00:06:42,240 --> 00:06:44,599 Speaker 1: is this. Gary is obviously a handsome man. He's very sweet, 131 00:06:44,640 --> 00:06:48,120 Speaker 1: he's very kind. Do you think people your age are 132 00:06:48,160 --> 00:06:52,120 Speaker 1: watching this with any type of like attraction to Gary 133 00:06:52,279 --> 00:06:54,760 Speaker 1: or is it more of a kind of a fatherly 134 00:06:54,880 --> 00:06:59,279 Speaker 1: grandfatherly like love and admiration and just the sweetness of Gary? 135 00:06:59,480 --> 00:07:03,279 Speaker 1: Or is there or do you think the majority is like, goodness, gracious, 136 00:07:03,320 --> 00:07:06,200 Speaker 1: he could leave, you know, he could be around for 137 00:07:06,240 --> 00:07:08,240 Speaker 1: a while, Like I like this guy. I would actually 138 00:07:08,240 --> 00:07:10,240 Speaker 1: be on this show too, if they would allow, you know, 139 00:07:10,320 --> 00:07:11,119 Speaker 1: thirty year olds. 140 00:07:12,360 --> 00:07:15,200 Speaker 2: I have the perfect answer to this question. So I 141 00:07:15,320 --> 00:07:18,840 Speaker 2: was watching last night with my sister and my friend 142 00:07:18,880 --> 00:07:21,920 Speaker 2: was here and she was looking at the TV and 143 00:07:21,960 --> 00:07:24,280 Speaker 2: she just could not stop talking about how attracted she 144 00:07:24,480 --> 00:07:27,520 Speaker 2: was to him, and like how she literally said that, 145 00:07:27,600 --> 00:07:30,280 Speaker 2: like he's the bachelor that she would most want to 146 00:07:30,280 --> 00:07:32,040 Speaker 2: get in bed. 147 00:07:32,920 --> 00:07:35,440 Speaker 1: I don't even take that offensively, Like I get it. 148 00:07:35,480 --> 00:07:38,920 Speaker 2: I mean he's I get it again, I get it, 149 00:07:39,000 --> 00:07:41,280 Speaker 2: but like I mean not for me, Like there's quite 150 00:07:41,280 --> 00:07:43,640 Speaker 2: a number, Like you know, I was on the show 151 00:07:43,680 --> 00:07:46,840 Speaker 2: and very attracted to Chris Soles, and there's so many 152 00:07:46,960 --> 00:07:50,080 Speaker 2: of my very attractive friends that you know, like personally, 153 00:07:50,160 --> 00:07:53,440 Speaker 2: I like to date more within my age range when 154 00:07:53,480 --> 00:07:55,920 Speaker 2: I used to date and but but my sister's the 155 00:07:55,960 --> 00:07:57,920 Speaker 2: exact same way. She just thinks that he's so hot, 156 00:07:58,040 --> 00:08:02,760 Speaker 2: And I get it, I get it. But I'd also 157 00:08:02,960 --> 00:08:07,000 Speaker 2: personally would yeah, I like more matrix. But and then 158 00:08:07,280 --> 00:08:10,480 Speaker 2: just to like draw a full picture, we were at 159 00:08:10,520 --> 00:08:14,200 Speaker 2: dinner last night and these two ladies in their seventies 160 00:08:14,240 --> 00:08:15,880 Speaker 2: came up to us and they were like so sweet. 161 00:08:15,880 --> 00:08:19,400 Speaker 2: They're like, you girls are so pretty. And the woman 162 00:08:19,400 --> 00:08:23,640 Speaker 2: didn't even know I was on the Bachelor, And for 163 00:08:23,680 --> 00:08:30,200 Speaker 2: some reason, the golden Bacheler comes up and she goes, Oh, yeah, 164 00:08:30,240 --> 00:08:32,520 Speaker 2: that guy can like get it. The seventy year old 165 00:08:32,559 --> 00:08:34,880 Speaker 2: woman goes, oh, that golden Bacheler, he can get it. 166 00:08:35,800 --> 00:08:38,120 Speaker 1: Goodness, it's bringing out a side of people I've never 167 00:08:38,440 --> 00:08:41,440 Speaker 1: known or seen or heard people talk about. It is. 168 00:08:41,800 --> 00:08:44,320 Speaker 1: I mean, it's opening my eyes to a whole new world. 169 00:08:45,640 --> 00:08:48,720 Speaker 1: I just learned too much, so much. I wasn't going 170 00:08:48,760 --> 00:08:51,800 Speaker 1: to be surprised if you said that you thought your 171 00:08:51,840 --> 00:08:56,240 Speaker 1: friends were actually attracted to Gary. I think he would 172 00:08:56,240 --> 00:08:59,960 Speaker 1: find that unique and different and something he's never experienced. 173 00:09:00,440 --> 00:09:03,360 Speaker 1: I know my wife watches it and she has this 174 00:09:03,600 --> 00:09:07,920 Speaker 1: just like love for grandparents. Yeah she does because of 175 00:09:07,920 --> 00:09:11,080 Speaker 1: her grandparents, and she just like is is more in 176 00:09:11,120 --> 00:09:14,080 Speaker 1: the like sweet like oh he's like I just I 177 00:09:14,160 --> 00:09:15,760 Speaker 1: just want to protect him kind of like I just 178 00:09:15,840 --> 00:09:18,360 Speaker 1: love him and I just want him happy kind of thing. 179 00:09:18,679 --> 00:09:19,199 Speaker 2: Yeah. 180 00:09:19,240 --> 00:09:23,400 Speaker 1: But my wife is also not you know, she isn't 181 00:09:23,559 --> 00:09:26,800 Speaker 1: as like Ford or expressive or you know, she doesn't 182 00:09:26,840 --> 00:09:29,600 Speaker 1: think and maybe the ways that every you know, everybody 183 00:09:29,600 --> 00:09:31,720 Speaker 1: else does. She's unique in her in the way that 184 00:09:31,800 --> 00:09:35,720 Speaker 1: you know, she doesn't hadn't really dated until we got married, 185 00:09:35,720 --> 00:09:38,520 Speaker 1: and so she has just a different kind of like, yeah, 186 00:09:38,600 --> 00:09:41,560 Speaker 1: perspective on life and thought when it comes to these things. 187 00:09:42,040 --> 00:09:44,960 Speaker 1: But I wasn't going to be surprised that, you know, 188 00:09:45,040 --> 00:09:48,959 Speaker 1: college campuses that are now watching The Golden Bachelor at 189 00:09:48,960 --> 00:09:52,120 Speaker 1: watch parties are watching this and the girls are going, 190 00:09:52,840 --> 00:09:55,640 Speaker 1: oh my gosh, Like I this is the first time 191 00:09:55,679 --> 00:09:58,480 Speaker 1: I felt like I've I watched this seventy year old 192 00:09:58,480 --> 00:10:01,040 Speaker 1: on TV and I'm like, yeah, he's pretty attractive. 193 00:10:00,559 --> 00:10:03,520 Speaker 2: Or really funny, exactly like I have an appreciation for it. 194 00:10:03,520 --> 00:10:06,439 Speaker 2: Am I dress like, he's very handsome, he's so sweet, 195 00:10:06,520 --> 00:10:09,240 Speaker 2: Like I would love to have him as part of 196 00:10:09,280 --> 00:10:13,240 Speaker 2: my family. Yeah, but just yeah, like I just am 197 00:10:13,280 --> 00:10:15,480 Speaker 2: that girl who's always just been like, oh, is he 198 00:10:15,559 --> 00:10:19,040 Speaker 2: within like ten years of my age? Okay then yeah, 199 00:10:19,160 --> 00:10:21,160 Speaker 2: but like even ten years seemed like a stretch to me. 200 00:10:21,200 --> 00:10:22,920 Speaker 2: I just like I am the personality that I feel 201 00:10:22,920 --> 00:10:25,480 Speaker 2: like we need to like generationally relate. 202 00:10:26,080 --> 00:10:28,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, hot uncle Gary. That's who he could be in 203 00:10:28,280 --> 00:10:31,400 Speaker 1: my family is hot uncle Gary. Okay, we're gonna take 204 00:10:31,440 --> 00:10:33,720 Speaker 1: a break here, Ashley, before we start breaking down the 205 00:10:33,800 --> 00:10:37,760 Speaker 1: episode I do want to tease this. There is something 206 00:10:37,800 --> 00:10:43,040 Speaker 1: about Gary that gave Jessica and I the ick. What 207 00:10:43,400 --> 00:10:55,680 Speaker 1: really we're gonna talk about when we get back. You know, 208 00:10:55,920 --> 00:10:58,760 Speaker 1: I think breaking down the Golden Bachelor Ashley is best 209 00:10:58,800 --> 00:11:01,880 Speaker 1: done in kind of highlight because there it's a short 210 00:11:01,880 --> 00:11:03,000 Speaker 1: episode right way. 211 00:11:03,080 --> 00:11:04,120 Speaker 2: It's just like flashes. 212 00:11:04,720 --> 00:11:08,480 Speaker 1: It's flashes and and some of the things here is 213 00:11:08,480 --> 00:11:10,200 Speaker 1: the girls are waking up in the mansion, which is 214 00:11:10,240 --> 00:11:13,360 Speaker 1: really fun for me to watch because the mansion is 215 00:11:13,920 --> 00:11:16,080 Speaker 1: is a lot. I don't know about your experience in 216 00:11:16,080 --> 00:11:17,800 Speaker 1: the mansion, but when I was on the Bachelor app 217 00:11:18,240 --> 00:11:21,760 Speaker 1: they did not make those rooms as nice and cute 218 00:11:21,840 --> 00:11:22,480 Speaker 1: and like, ok. 219 00:11:22,400 --> 00:11:23,439 Speaker 2: They did for these women. 220 00:11:23,880 --> 00:11:26,440 Speaker 1: I mean those rooms look pretty nice. When I was 221 00:11:26,600 --> 00:11:28,839 Speaker 1: very kind of look like a like a like a 222 00:11:29,320 --> 00:11:31,520 Speaker 1: bad dorm room. Yeah. 223 00:11:32,160 --> 00:11:35,240 Speaker 2: I was like, what's up with the plush comforters and 224 00:11:35,280 --> 00:11:39,080 Speaker 2: like the cute matching stuff like where are looked like 225 00:11:39,160 --> 00:11:41,400 Speaker 2: more of like a like a campsite. 226 00:11:43,200 --> 00:11:45,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, And they never got shown on TV. You know, 227 00:11:45,640 --> 00:11:48,280 Speaker 1: I've talked many times about, you know, the interesting part 228 00:11:48,280 --> 00:11:51,280 Speaker 1: about the mansion, and I do think that the viewers 229 00:11:51,760 --> 00:11:54,160 Speaker 1: were kind of shocked by the bunk bed situation. I 230 00:11:54,280 --> 00:11:57,400 Speaker 1: get it. I understand that, uh, you know, having bunk 231 00:11:57,440 --> 00:12:00,000 Speaker 1: beds for these women, it's crazy. But the mansion is 232 00:12:00,160 --> 00:12:03,080 Speaker 1: not that big upstairs. There is not many rooms. There's 233 00:12:03,240 --> 00:12:08,040 Speaker 1: very few bathrooms, and and I know my issue. Yeah, yeah, 234 00:12:08,080 --> 00:12:11,079 Speaker 1: there's only a few bathrooms. We've talked about it before. Yeah, 235 00:12:11,120 --> 00:12:13,160 Speaker 1: when you have a bunch of guys on a show, 236 00:12:13,400 --> 00:12:16,960 Speaker 1: weird things happen in those bathrooms, and those bathrooms become disgusting, 237 00:12:17,520 --> 00:12:18,880 Speaker 1: absolutely disgusting. 238 00:12:19,000 --> 00:12:21,760 Speaker 2: You guys are weird. I gotta say, you guys are weird. 239 00:12:22,720 --> 00:12:24,160 Speaker 1: We're very odd. We're very odd. 240 00:12:24,320 --> 00:12:26,760 Speaker 2: You know, Like, I don't know why it would get disgusting, 241 00:12:26,920 --> 00:12:31,440 Speaker 2: but knowing Jared, yeah, like you guys just like have 242 00:12:31,559 --> 00:12:33,440 Speaker 2: a thing. I don't know, let's not get into it. 243 00:12:34,200 --> 00:12:36,760 Speaker 1: We do have a thing, and things get weird. 244 00:12:37,000 --> 00:12:39,800 Speaker 2: It gets exactly like I'm like, I never would have 245 00:12:39,840 --> 00:12:43,719 Speaker 2: known that things get weird in the bathroom until like what. 246 00:12:43,960 --> 00:12:45,360 Speaker 1: You can ask Jared all about it. 247 00:12:45,440 --> 00:12:46,840 Speaker 2: Do I have to bring a blue light in the 248 00:12:46,840 --> 00:12:47,760 Speaker 2: bathroom or something? 249 00:12:48,080 --> 00:12:50,440 Speaker 1: One hundred percent you should. But these women walk in 250 00:12:51,920 --> 00:12:54,920 Speaker 1: you know, again, I talked about it last week and 251 00:12:54,960 --> 00:12:57,920 Speaker 1: I won't go far into it this week, but I 252 00:12:57,960 --> 00:13:00,679 Speaker 1: do think it's really fun, probably for all these women 253 00:13:00,679 --> 00:13:03,480 Speaker 1: to have sleepovers. I'm imagining because I don't know how 254 00:13:03,480 --> 00:13:08,040 Speaker 1: often they have like sleepovers now in their life. Maybe 255 00:13:08,440 --> 00:13:10,440 Speaker 1: every once in a while their friends get together and they're like, hey, 256 00:13:10,520 --> 00:13:12,840 Speaker 1: let's go on a girls trip. But they all seem 257 00:13:13,080 --> 00:13:16,120 Speaker 1: very excited to be in this mansion. There was no 258 00:13:16,280 --> 00:13:19,600 Speaker 1: complaining really like we see in other seasons where they 259 00:13:19,679 --> 00:13:21,960 Speaker 1: entered into the mansion, and you know it even if 260 00:13:21,960 --> 00:13:25,439 Speaker 1: it wasn't shown on television, like when the guys or 261 00:13:25,480 --> 00:13:28,079 Speaker 1: the girls walk up for the first time, like this 262 00:13:28,400 --> 00:13:31,480 Speaker 1: is where we're staying. Yeah, like there is a lot 263 00:13:31,480 --> 00:13:33,439 Speaker 1: of complaining. That's kind kind of like that. 264 00:13:33,520 --> 00:13:35,600 Speaker 2: But at the same time, it's like also so surreal 265 00:13:35,640 --> 00:13:37,480 Speaker 2: to see your name on the bunk that you're just like, 266 00:13:37,600 --> 00:13:40,320 Speaker 2: it's fine, I can't believe I'm here and that you 267 00:13:40,360 --> 00:13:42,200 Speaker 2: just got through a row ceremony and all that. But yeah, 268 00:13:42,240 --> 00:13:46,040 Speaker 2: you're definitely like believe me. I must have said out loud, 269 00:13:46,480 --> 00:13:49,800 Speaker 2: like the bathroom situation, like how am I supposed to 270 00:13:49,800 --> 00:13:52,199 Speaker 2: go in privacy? Like how am I supposed to even 271 00:13:52,200 --> 00:13:54,280 Speaker 2: shower in privacy? Because I've just been that girl. I've 272 00:13:54,280 --> 00:13:57,480 Speaker 2: always been that person. That's like, nobody sees my naked body. 273 00:13:57,480 --> 00:13:59,560 Speaker 2: Not because I'm not confident, it's just like, A'm very private. 274 00:14:00,320 --> 00:14:02,600 Speaker 1: Yeah you're not. When you get into that mansion, everything 275 00:14:02,640 --> 00:14:05,480 Speaker 1: is wide open, everything is to be seen, Everything is 276 00:14:05,520 --> 00:14:08,960 Speaker 1: shared every like, there's people in and out at all times. 277 00:14:09,080 --> 00:14:12,400 Speaker 1: It is a very weird experience. But we do see 278 00:14:12,440 --> 00:14:14,200 Speaker 1: the women enter into the mansion and then we see 279 00:14:14,240 --> 00:14:20,600 Speaker 1: Gary pull up. Gary is shining. I mean, this dude 280 00:14:20,880 --> 00:14:25,320 Speaker 1: is talk about him hitting his peak. I don't know 281 00:14:25,400 --> 00:14:27,960 Speaker 1: if we'll see another peak for Gary this season, but 282 00:14:28,080 --> 00:14:31,280 Speaker 1: him pulling up in that vintage convertible up up to 283 00:14:31,320 --> 00:14:35,480 Speaker 1: the mansion, to me, I was just like, yeah, this like, 284 00:14:35,680 --> 00:14:38,520 Speaker 1: you could not have picked anybody better. You can't. You couldn't. 285 00:14:38,560 --> 00:14:41,680 Speaker 1: I mean, he's he's so he's just so good at it. 286 00:14:41,760 --> 00:14:44,000 Speaker 1: He's so relaxed in a position that would. 287 00:14:43,800 --> 00:14:47,200 Speaker 3: Be so I was saying throughout the entire episode, how 288 00:14:47,360 --> 00:14:51,600 Speaker 3: is this dude who's plucked from obscurity so comfortable in 289 00:14:51,640 --> 00:14:54,640 Speaker 3: front of the cameras, so comfortably emotionally in front of 290 00:14:54,640 --> 00:14:55,240 Speaker 3: the cameras. 291 00:14:55,640 --> 00:14:57,480 Speaker 2: Just if there's an ease about him. 292 00:14:57,560 --> 00:15:02,240 Speaker 1: It's incredible, Actually, I asked the producer, serious yesterday I 293 00:15:02,240 --> 00:15:03,840 Speaker 1: had a phone call with some of them and I said, Hey, 294 00:15:03,840 --> 00:15:06,160 Speaker 1: did you give Gary more training than you would have 295 00:15:06,200 --> 00:15:08,720 Speaker 1: given me? Like, did you prep him in a different way, 296 00:15:08,840 --> 00:15:12,080 Speaker 1: or you know, have the procedures to getting the person 297 00:15:12,160 --> 00:15:15,000 Speaker 1: ready to be the lead changed? I mean we also 298 00:15:15,040 --> 00:15:18,040 Speaker 1: have to remember Gary wasn't a part of a previous season. Right, 299 00:15:18,280 --> 00:15:20,600 Speaker 1: he is the start, so he does not have the 300 00:15:20,640 --> 00:15:21,520 Speaker 1: camera experience, so. 301 00:15:22,080 --> 00:15:25,480 Speaker 2: We always have a trial run basically with the lead. 302 00:15:25,600 --> 00:15:28,440 Speaker 2: They were picked because they are comfortable with the camera, 303 00:15:28,480 --> 00:15:31,400 Speaker 2: because they're dynamic and like people are drawn to them 304 00:15:31,400 --> 00:15:33,440 Speaker 2: through the screen. They didn't even know. 305 00:15:33,960 --> 00:15:35,600 Speaker 1: They didn't give him any more training than they would 306 00:15:35,640 --> 00:15:38,680 Speaker 1: have given me. Like there was some conversations about Gary, 307 00:15:38,680 --> 00:15:40,560 Speaker 1: how do you feel about this? Are you ready? I 308 00:15:40,640 --> 00:15:43,520 Speaker 1: do think it comes down to life experience and wisdom 309 00:15:44,000 --> 00:15:48,000 Speaker 1: that helps him navigate this, because I don't think there's 310 00:15:48,080 --> 00:15:51,280 Speaker 1: any conversation that he's going to be in or any 311 00:15:51,320 --> 00:15:53,320 Speaker 1: moment that he's going to be I'm sure he's nervous, 312 00:15:54,080 --> 00:15:58,840 Speaker 1: but I don't think he's gonna be surprised, Like, I 313 00:15:58,880 --> 00:16:00,880 Speaker 1: don't think he I think he's prob'll been through all 314 00:16:00,920 --> 00:16:03,080 Speaker 1: of these before. Right, he sat down with people who 315 00:16:03,160 --> 00:16:06,680 Speaker 1: have experienced lost. He's walked into rooms where there's a 316 00:16:06,680 --> 00:16:09,960 Speaker 1: bunch of people with their eyes on him. As as 317 00:16:10,000 --> 00:16:12,960 Speaker 1: a business owner, I'm sure he's given talks and speeches 318 00:16:12,960 --> 00:16:15,480 Speaker 1: to his team, you know, as he stands up in front. 319 00:16:15,640 --> 00:16:19,040 Speaker 1: I just think he has the experience, which I think 320 00:16:19,080 --> 00:16:21,479 Speaker 1: he's uniquely good at it. I don't want to discredit 321 00:16:22,280 --> 00:16:24,680 Speaker 1: him as a person here, but I do think life 322 00:16:24,720 --> 00:16:26,560 Speaker 1: experience probably plays into this a little bit. 323 00:16:26,880 --> 00:16:29,040 Speaker 2: How do you think that the producers interacted with him 324 00:16:29,080 --> 00:16:32,720 Speaker 2: being him being an elder, because normally we're peers, if 325 00:16:32,760 --> 00:16:35,400 Speaker 2: not there a couple years older than us. 326 00:16:36,040 --> 00:16:38,640 Speaker 1: I've asked this question too to the people that would 327 00:16:38,640 --> 00:16:41,560 Speaker 1: be in the know. You know, with my season, there's 328 00:16:41,640 --> 00:16:44,520 Speaker 1: some leads that really want to be coached, you know, 329 00:16:44,560 --> 00:16:48,000 Speaker 1: they want to have a producer there. They want to 330 00:16:48,000 --> 00:16:50,960 Speaker 1: take the break and walk away from conversations and be like, hey, 331 00:16:51,400 --> 00:16:53,560 Speaker 1: how do you feel about what's going on? Is you know, 332 00:16:53,640 --> 00:16:55,080 Speaker 1: is there a question I should ask is or something 333 00:16:55,120 --> 00:16:57,800 Speaker 1: I should say? Or you know in past season, sometimes 334 00:16:57,840 --> 00:16:59,560 Speaker 1: the leader like, I would love for you to step 335 00:16:59,600 --> 00:17:03,440 Speaker 1: in during these dates and kind of help us along 336 00:17:03,480 --> 00:17:06,320 Speaker 1: because it's going to get awkward. When I started my season. 337 00:17:06,400 --> 00:17:08,399 Speaker 1: One of the conversations we had was I said, I 338 00:17:08,400 --> 00:17:10,840 Speaker 1: would like you to leave me alone, because if it 339 00:17:10,840 --> 00:17:13,240 Speaker 1: gets awkward, let it get awkward. I'm you know, that's 340 00:17:13,280 --> 00:17:15,760 Speaker 1: just part of it. If it's not awkward and kind 341 00:17:15,800 --> 00:17:19,040 Speaker 1: of in a rhythm, then let us let us sit 342 00:17:19,080 --> 00:17:21,000 Speaker 1: there in that in that rhythm, like I don't want 343 00:17:21,000 --> 00:17:22,680 Speaker 1: to be getting pulled. I don't want you to kind 344 00:17:22,680 --> 00:17:26,600 Speaker 1: of make this less real than it already feels. And 345 00:17:26,640 --> 00:17:28,760 Speaker 1: they said with Gary, he didn't really know what to 346 00:17:28,800 --> 00:17:31,199 Speaker 1: ask for, right, he didn't know that he was going 347 00:17:31,720 --> 00:17:34,080 Speaker 1: he would he wanted them to stay away. They said 348 00:17:34,080 --> 00:17:35,800 Speaker 1: they didn't have to be around, like they could have 349 00:17:35,840 --> 00:17:38,240 Speaker 1: never even been there like that. He just did this, 350 00:17:38,440 --> 00:17:41,320 Speaker 1: like he asked the right questions. He was engaged, he 351 00:17:41,440 --> 00:17:43,879 Speaker 1: was interested, and so no, I don't think they treated 352 00:17:43,960 --> 00:17:47,200 Speaker 1: him differently other than the fact that they just stepped back, Yeah, 353 00:17:47,680 --> 00:17:51,520 Speaker 1: which is which I think does bring you know, I 354 00:17:51,920 --> 00:17:53,919 Speaker 1: would give if I would give my my my the 355 00:17:53,960 --> 00:17:57,359 Speaker 1: season to the Bachelor. I was on one compliment because 356 00:17:57,359 --> 00:17:59,679 Speaker 1: I did it. I was in it, like there was 357 00:17:59,840 --> 00:18:02,600 Speaker 1: a a realness to it. There was a vulnerability and 358 00:18:02,600 --> 00:18:05,520 Speaker 1: a legitimacy to each conversation because they weren't coached, and 359 00:18:05,520 --> 00:18:07,960 Speaker 1: I think we're seeing that with Gary, where you're like, 360 00:18:08,520 --> 00:18:13,040 Speaker 1: he's not just trying to pull out everybody's really deep stories. 361 00:18:13,920 --> 00:18:17,239 Speaker 1: There's other conversations going on that matter to him, and 362 00:18:17,520 --> 00:18:21,480 Speaker 1: there's a genuineness to these conversations. And I think we 363 00:18:21,560 --> 00:18:23,959 Speaker 1: contangibly feel as we watched on the screen because it 364 00:18:24,040 --> 00:18:24,720 Speaker 1: isn't coached. 365 00:18:25,080 --> 00:18:27,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, I completely agree. All right, Well let's get into 366 00:18:27,800 --> 00:18:31,000 Speaker 2: that first date with Teresa, who was one of the 367 00:18:31,040 --> 00:18:33,919 Speaker 2: two that he kissed on night one. She made him 368 00:18:33,960 --> 00:18:35,840 Speaker 2: comment she was like, you kiss me. I was like, girl, 369 00:18:36,320 --> 00:18:42,280 Speaker 2: you kiss him. But okay, our vision is history. Their 370 00:18:42,359 --> 00:18:46,320 Speaker 2: date was very cute at a diner, and I was 371 00:18:46,359 --> 00:18:49,560 Speaker 2: pointing out the fact that their date was actually probably 372 00:18:49,560 --> 00:18:52,720 Speaker 2: the length of a normal first date. They left at night, 373 00:18:53,520 --> 00:18:56,440 Speaker 2: they went to a diner, there was a dance afterward, 374 00:18:56,480 --> 00:18:59,560 Speaker 2: and they went home. It wasn't this whole all day process. 375 00:19:00,640 --> 00:19:02,640 Speaker 2: And I kind of liked that. 376 00:19:04,000 --> 00:19:07,040 Speaker 1: Sure, I think it was. And I think Gary relating 377 00:19:07,040 --> 00:19:09,680 Speaker 1: it back to kind of his I mean, the fact 378 00:19:09,720 --> 00:19:11,840 Speaker 1: that he's seventy years old and that he's you know, 379 00:19:11,880 --> 00:19:14,440 Speaker 1: said I now seventy two, that he used to take 380 00:19:14,480 --> 00:19:18,640 Speaker 1: people the diners I think was cute. I do think 381 00:19:18,680 --> 00:19:21,600 Speaker 1: we would be remiss if we did not talk about 382 00:19:22,040 --> 00:19:23,080 Speaker 1: the car ride there. 383 00:19:23,440 --> 00:19:27,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, which they were petrified. I was like, guys, were 384 00:19:27,280 --> 00:19:29,919 Speaker 2: they scared of the convertible factor or just driving in la. 385 00:19:30,359 --> 00:19:33,159 Speaker 1: Ashually, this is the brilliance of the show coming out right. 386 00:19:33,200 --> 00:19:35,960 Speaker 1: There's no producers in that car. There's no producers in 387 00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:38,159 Speaker 1: his ear. This is just the two of them probably 388 00:19:38,200 --> 00:19:41,080 Speaker 1: forgetting that they're even on camera because there's like a 389 00:19:41,119 --> 00:19:44,840 Speaker 1: little GoPro pro in the side. They've probably totally forgotten it. 390 00:19:45,400 --> 00:19:49,000 Speaker 1: And they're in their seventies, right in late sixties, and 391 00:19:49,080 --> 00:19:51,520 Speaker 1: so you know, I don't know if your parents are 392 00:19:51,520 --> 00:19:55,000 Speaker 1: this way yet, but my parents don't love to drive 393 00:19:55,040 --> 00:19:56,800 Speaker 1: at night, like they have night classes. 394 00:19:56,920 --> 00:19:59,920 Speaker 2: My gosh, my mom like won't drive at night. 395 00:20:00,119 --> 00:20:00,320 Speaker 4: Now. 396 00:20:00,480 --> 00:20:03,120 Speaker 2: I'm like, yeah, I land at this time, and she's like, well, 397 00:20:03,240 --> 00:20:05,119 Speaker 2: I can't see at night, so you know, I'll have 398 00:20:05,200 --> 00:20:06,040 Speaker 2: Lauren pick you up. 399 00:20:06,359 --> 00:20:08,399 Speaker 1: So this is such a real moment where we're like, 400 00:20:08,960 --> 00:20:12,320 Speaker 1: this is I was dying laughing, but also feeling for 401 00:20:12,359 --> 00:20:15,720 Speaker 1: the two of them because they are so nervous because 402 00:20:15,720 --> 00:20:18,640 Speaker 1: he's in a convertible and he keeps saying on in La, 403 00:20:18,760 --> 00:20:22,040 Speaker 1: you know, and the busy highway, you know, on the interstate, 404 00:20:22,440 --> 00:20:25,680 Speaker 1: driving through traffic. He goes, it's crazy, it's wild, Like 405 00:20:25,920 --> 00:20:29,520 Speaker 1: this is such a real inventure. This is an adventure 406 00:20:29,800 --> 00:20:34,439 Speaker 1: and it's so cute and you know that when she 407 00:20:34,640 --> 00:20:37,320 Speaker 1: put her hand on his shoulder, he was just calm. 408 00:20:37,680 --> 00:20:43,080 Speaker 2: I appreciate that. Oh sweet, this is stuff we didn't get. 409 00:20:43,160 --> 00:20:46,159 Speaker 2: The other s show like that would just be like 410 00:20:46,200 --> 00:20:49,280 Speaker 2: a yeah, you put my arm on your shoulder because you. 411 00:20:49,280 --> 00:20:52,959 Speaker 1: Think I'm hot. Yeah, picture this picture this. I am 412 00:20:52,960 --> 00:20:55,399 Speaker 1: the Bachelor. I go on my first date with somebody. 413 00:20:55,480 --> 00:20:57,680 Speaker 1: We're driving a convertible, which we did. We just happened 414 00:20:57,680 --> 00:20:59,560 Speaker 1: to have Kevin Hart and Ice Cube in the back seat, 415 00:21:01,080 --> 00:21:03,440 Speaker 1: and at the time it was Kayla Quinn. She puts 416 00:21:03,480 --> 00:21:05,199 Speaker 1: her hand on my shoulder, Like how weird would have 417 00:21:05,200 --> 00:21:06,760 Speaker 1: been if at the end of that I said, hey, 418 00:21:06,760 --> 00:21:09,040 Speaker 1: when you put your hand on my shoulder, it just 419 00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:12,399 Speaker 1: it just really hit Mentalodic really called me like I 420 00:21:12,440 --> 00:21:14,640 Speaker 1: could have I could have said that, but he can 421 00:21:15,119 --> 00:21:17,879 Speaker 1: because it's so real and it's so relatable and we 422 00:21:17,920 --> 00:21:21,359 Speaker 1: all know our parents and grandparents who feel the same 423 00:21:21,440 --> 00:21:23,440 Speaker 1: way and would say the same thing. And we would 424 00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:25,399 Speaker 1: go that's just sweet. 425 00:21:25,640 --> 00:21:29,440 Speaker 2: So sweet. So at of course the dinner, they discuss 426 00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:35,000 Speaker 2: the losing the loss of their spouses. She was married 427 00:21:35,040 --> 00:21:37,959 Speaker 2: to her high school sweetheart for thirty two years. His 428 00:21:38,040 --> 00:21:43,760 Speaker 2: kidneys weren't good, and she just talks about how she 429 00:21:44,080 --> 00:21:47,359 Speaker 2: like had like three days kind of knowing that it 430 00:21:47,440 --> 00:21:49,680 Speaker 2: was going to be the end, and she got a 431 00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:53,040 Speaker 2: call from him that she wasn't doing well at home, 432 00:21:53,080 --> 00:21:56,760 Speaker 2: and then she watched him take his last breath at home. 433 00:21:56,960 --> 00:22:01,000 Speaker 2: And he's been gone for eight years now, and just 434 00:22:01,040 --> 00:22:03,119 Speaker 2: the way that you know, they're able to relate on 435 00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:07,720 Speaker 2: stuff like this, it is quite beautiful and so sad. 436 00:22:08,560 --> 00:22:10,919 Speaker 1: Well, and we've seen this, right, This is not a 437 00:22:12,320 --> 00:22:15,080 Speaker 1: this is not a unique you know, situation for so 438 00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:17,879 Speaker 1: many of them at this point in their life. And 439 00:22:17,960 --> 00:22:21,399 Speaker 1: I think, you know, for for for me, and I 440 00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:23,000 Speaker 1: sit there with my wife and I now get to 441 00:22:23,040 --> 00:22:25,520 Speaker 1: watch this. As I mentioned, I'm very just excited I 442 00:22:25,560 --> 00:22:27,000 Speaker 1: get to watch it with Jess and that we're both 443 00:22:27,040 --> 00:22:32,639 Speaker 1: so into it. And when these stories get presented like 444 00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:36,760 Speaker 1: it does bring up a different conversation for us of hey, like, 445 00:22:36,800 --> 00:22:39,879 Speaker 1: this is a reality for so many and this is 446 00:22:39,920 --> 00:22:43,880 Speaker 1: really hard and you know, life is you know life 447 00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:45,679 Speaker 1: is short and we got to take advantage of these 448 00:22:45,680 --> 00:22:47,600 Speaker 1: times like this is what comes from the show for 449 00:22:47,640 --> 00:22:50,720 Speaker 1: me is those like wow, hun, like this could be 450 00:22:50,920 --> 00:22:53,320 Speaker 1: you one day sitting there and like how would you 451 00:22:55,440 --> 00:22:58,600 Speaker 1: want to handle that next season of life for yourself? 452 00:22:58,640 --> 00:23:00,280 Speaker 1: And like, yes, it's not fun to talk about, and 453 00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:02,720 Speaker 1: yes it's weird to talk about, but it is what 454 00:23:02,880 --> 00:23:07,080 Speaker 1: brings out. These conversations come out of watching this because 455 00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:11,800 Speaker 1: when you're when you're engaged in the show, you are 456 00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:14,920 Speaker 1: obviously talking about the show at every turn and every moment, 457 00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:16,640 Speaker 1: and you're saying, oh my gosh, how sweet is it today? 458 00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:18,800 Speaker 1: We're so nervous to drive there, and then she brings 459 00:23:18,800 --> 00:23:21,720 Speaker 1: this up and you go, honey, like we've never talked 460 00:23:21,720 --> 00:23:25,199 Speaker 1: about what I dream for you if this were happened to. 461 00:23:25,280 --> 00:23:27,960 Speaker 2: Tell you want to say, what's your answer? 462 00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:30,399 Speaker 1: You know, I think at that point in time, like 463 00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:33,280 Speaker 1: I'm gone. You know, I want her to continue on 464 00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:37,200 Speaker 1: with the with the memory of me, which would be amazing, 465 00:23:37,320 --> 00:23:41,520 Speaker 1: like if she had such admiration, But I also don't 466 00:23:41,520 --> 00:23:43,760 Speaker 1: want her to be alone, like I would never want 467 00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:45,520 Speaker 1: her to be alone, and she she doesn't want to 468 00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:47,640 Speaker 1: be alone, but she can't even think about it, right, 469 00:23:47,680 --> 00:23:48,600 Speaker 1: she can't even get there. 470 00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:51,960 Speaker 2: Seeing as you say this, I just think like, I 471 00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:53,920 Speaker 2: don't want to think about it at this point because 472 00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:56,320 Speaker 2: I don't know what I would be like at that age, 473 00:23:56,440 --> 00:23:57,800 Speaker 2: and I don't know what I would feel like at 474 00:23:57,840 --> 00:23:58,360 Speaker 2: that age. 475 00:23:58,840 --> 00:24:01,879 Speaker 1: But if it happened now, oh god, Yeah, this is 476 00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:04,280 Speaker 1: the stuff that comes out of this. And yes, that 477 00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:07,280 Speaker 1: feels heavy and dark, But then the show brings us 478 00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:10,000 Speaker 1: back to really great moments, which is obviously then the 479 00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:13,200 Speaker 1: people dancing in the diner and the two of them 480 00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:16,120 Speaker 1: having fun and holding their hands across the table and 481 00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:17,800 Speaker 1: hands across the table. 482 00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:21,240 Speaker 2: It's like cemented in my mind now as one of 483 00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:23,760 Speaker 2: the most I don't know, there is something about that like. 484 00:24:23,720 --> 00:24:24,720 Speaker 1: An iconic scene. 485 00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:28,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like a core memory of the Golden Bachelor now, 486 00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:31,560 Speaker 2: just the holding hands so tightly, like in like we're 487 00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:34,360 Speaker 2: in solidarity, and not in like a romantic sense, but 488 00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:36,240 Speaker 2: more of like the I'm there for you sense that 489 00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:41,560 Speaker 2: you don't see on the regular show. And also there 490 00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:44,320 Speaker 2: is that moment where there's two here, we got a 491 00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:47,440 Speaker 2: quote here. It says a gentle touch and a few words, 492 00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:50,840 Speaker 2: and they are back to hopefulness in their future. 493 00:24:51,320 --> 00:24:53,640 Speaker 1: In the future, yeah, gentle touch and a few words, 494 00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:55,800 Speaker 1: they're back to hopefulness in the future. Yeah, I mean. 495 00:24:56,480 --> 00:25:00,800 Speaker 1: And I think the the holding hands is symbolic in 496 00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:03,280 Speaker 1: a lot of ways actually, because neither of them want 497 00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:06,120 Speaker 1: to be where they're at right. Neither of them dreamed 498 00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:09,679 Speaker 1: of sitting across the table with somebody new. Nobody dreamed. 499 00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:12,240 Speaker 1: Neither of them really dreamed of being on this show. 500 00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:17,280 Speaker 1: This wasn't a plan, this wasn't a want for them, 501 00:25:17,280 --> 00:25:20,919 Speaker 1: But they find themselves in this moment. And so in 502 00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:22,639 Speaker 1: this moment, what are they gonna do. They're gonna make 503 00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:24,199 Speaker 1: the best of it, and they're gonna sit there and 504 00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:26,160 Speaker 1: be like I got you, Like I'm here no matter 505 00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:27,719 Speaker 1: what this plays out, like, no matter if we end 506 00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:29,679 Speaker 1: up together or not, Like, I just want you to 507 00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:32,200 Speaker 1: know you're not alone, which is what we talk about 508 00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:35,480 Speaker 1: on this podcast so often, right, is the desire to 509 00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:39,320 Speaker 1: help people feel less alone. And I think this moment, 510 00:25:39,359 --> 00:25:41,600 Speaker 1: that holding the hands is symbolic of the Golden Bachelor 511 00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:44,680 Speaker 1: in a lot of ways because it is showing you're 512 00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:47,240 Speaker 1: not alone, Like, I know this sucks. I know you 513 00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:49,480 Speaker 1: don't want to be here. I know this is you're 514 00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:50,840 Speaker 1: making the best of a really. 515 00:25:51,040 --> 00:25:54,000 Speaker 2: Terrible situation, the backup plan. 516 00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:56,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, this is not this is not what you would 517 00:25:56,480 --> 00:25:58,720 Speaker 1: have dreamed of. But we're here, So what are we 518 00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:01,640 Speaker 1: gonna do with this? Hold each other's hands. We're gonna 519 00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:04,080 Speaker 1: have a lot of fun. We're gonna do this thing 520 00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:06,399 Speaker 1: as best we can, and then we're gonna see if 521 00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:09,119 Speaker 1: possibly maybe you and I can spend the rest of 522 00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:10,000 Speaker 1: our days together. 523 00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:13,800 Speaker 2: And then I'm gonna lean across the table and say, 524 00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:18,879 Speaker 2: I really like you. And it's so powerful, so good, 525 00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:23,280 Speaker 2: so horriful, and I wanted to I want to know this. 526 00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:25,600 Speaker 2: And I know this may sound really like naive and 527 00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:29,560 Speaker 2: like immature young of me, But when he says I 528 00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:33,400 Speaker 2: really like you, is he saying like, I really appreciate 529 00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:35,520 Speaker 2: you as a person and I love being in your company. 530 00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:37,639 Speaker 2: Or do you think he's like, you give me butterflies 531 00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:40,360 Speaker 2: and I'm gonna think about you in bed tonight. I'm 532 00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:42,280 Speaker 2: not gonna think about you in bed like sexually, but 533 00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:44,280 Speaker 2: like I'm gonna like daydream of you when I'm about 534 00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:44,840 Speaker 2: to go to sleep. 535 00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:47,920 Speaker 1: I think it's I think it's mostly at this point. 536 00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:50,560 Speaker 1: I think he's just still in shock that he's even 537 00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:52,560 Speaker 1: sitting here and he's just like, I like everybody like 538 00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:54,840 Speaker 1: this is I've never had this much attention in my life. 539 00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:56,600 Speaker 1: I'm into you, and I'm into you, and I think 540 00:26:56,600 --> 00:26:59,359 Speaker 1: you're great, and I think you're great. And I would 541 00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:04,600 Speaker 1: like to assume, because I'm selfish, that Gary has a 542 00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:07,320 Speaker 1: similar thought process that I had, where it's like, you know, 543 00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:09,440 Speaker 1: no matter what, I just hope that all these women 544 00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:15,400 Speaker 1: here feel like they matter a little bit, a lot, 545 00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:18,120 Speaker 1: a bit. And then I'm really thankful they came all right. 546 00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:22,560 Speaker 2: Group date, we have a photo shoot with Franco, because 547 00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:24,240 Speaker 2: of course we do, and of course we have another 548 00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:28,919 Speaker 2: wedding dress date. And I am sitting here with my 549 00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:31,000 Speaker 2: friend Naz, who was a producer on the show, and 550 00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:34,439 Speaker 2: I go, oh my god, the wedding dress dirts girl. 551 00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:36,919 Speaker 2: And she's like, the reason they do it is because 552 00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:41,160 Speaker 2: it always pays off, because there's always some emotion in it. 553 00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:44,879 Speaker 2: And that's so now I'm like okay, and she's like, 554 00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:48,000 Speaker 2: here we are with Nancy. Nancy's getting emotional because the 555 00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:49,920 Speaker 2: last time she was in a wedding dress, of course, 556 00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:52,359 Speaker 2: was when she married her husband, who has now gone 557 00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:56,280 Speaker 2: for quite some time. And he just she he's just 558 00:27:56,320 --> 00:27:59,160 Speaker 2: the freaking cutest, the way that he came up to her, 559 00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:02,760 Speaker 2: just like, is it me? Is it the situation? I 560 00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:06,400 Speaker 2: was like, of course, it's not you, Gary. And then 561 00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:09,960 Speaker 2: when they shared the story about, you know, the wedding dress, 562 00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:12,480 Speaker 2: bringing back the memory of the best day of her life, 563 00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:15,240 Speaker 2: and then he was like, it hits you out of nowhere. 564 00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:18,399 Speaker 2: I had this moment where I was walking by a 565 00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:21,080 Speaker 2: batch of cinnamon cookies and it made me break down 566 00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:24,680 Speaker 2: because my wife used to make cinnamon balls, and their 567 00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:27,920 Speaker 2: bond over this was just perfect. Then he gives her 568 00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:30,720 Speaker 2: the group date rows, and I love the way a 569 00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:32,960 Speaker 2: women don't really get jealous over the group day rows. 570 00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:35,800 Speaker 2: They're just like, oh, good for her, you know, as 571 00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:37,400 Speaker 2: long as I'm here at the end of the day. 572 00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:41,239 Speaker 1: I think the one word was I love Nancy. She 573 00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:47,600 Speaker 1: deserves it. Yeah, so good. Yeah, I mean the photo shoot. 574 00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:49,280 Speaker 1: You know, you and I have talked about many seasons. 575 00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:52,000 Speaker 1: It's not something that like fires us up, but I 576 00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:53,920 Speaker 1: do think you touched on the most important part is 577 00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:57,040 Speaker 1: that Nancy's emotions came out. I think once again we 578 00:28:57,200 --> 00:29:02,160 Speaker 1: saw Nancy or this situation and become very real. I 579 00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:03,840 Speaker 1: will say that I don't think Nancy is gonna be 580 00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:05,680 Speaker 1: around for a while, not because she gets sent home, 581 00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:08,040 Speaker 1: but I do think I could see it in her 582 00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:10,600 Speaker 1: eyes as a fan without knowing anything, that it just 583 00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:13,880 Speaker 1: gets overwhelming for her, that this becomes too much, and 584 00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:15,760 Speaker 1: you know, as much as she's ready for it, that 585 00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:18,280 Speaker 1: this whole thing, it felt like she was sitting there 586 00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:20,360 Speaker 1: being like, I don't know, like I wasn't ready or 587 00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:22,680 Speaker 1: I'm not ready, or maybe this isn't for me. Yeah, 588 00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:27,040 Speaker 1: but she does get the group day Rose. The final 589 00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:30,320 Speaker 1: scene of the episode is that Gary has a birthday 590 00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:34,040 Speaker 1: party thrown for him. Everybody's celebrating him. It's really fun 591 00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:36,440 Speaker 1: to see. I hope it was a lot of fun. 592 00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:39,320 Speaker 1: Sometimes those parties at the mansion are so awkward and weird, 593 00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:42,000 Speaker 1: but this doesn't feel that weird. 594 00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:45,520 Speaker 2: And uncomfortable cocktail party and it was, Yeah. 595 00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:49,160 Speaker 1: It was the cocktail party, so it replaced it. We 596 00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:53,320 Speaker 1: did have a massive character and person I really liked. 597 00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:55,680 Speaker 1: I didn't know if they were best for Gary, but 598 00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:57,880 Speaker 1: I really liked her Natasha. 599 00:29:57,960 --> 00:30:02,720 Speaker 2: She was hilarious, really sad. Episode. One of the greatest. 600 00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:04,840 Speaker 2: So yes, she gets eliminated at the row ceremony, but 601 00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:09,120 Speaker 2: one of the greatest moments of franchise history is at 602 00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:12,400 Speaker 2: the end when she's just like, why don't we have stools? 603 00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:16,840 Speaker 2: We need stools. We are sixties and seventies and we 604 00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:20,160 Speaker 2: can't stand in a row, And her passionate about it 605 00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:22,880 Speaker 2: was like every every girl who's ever been on the 606 00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:27,120 Speaker 2: show was like, yes, Natasha, not just you guys, you 607 00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:29,320 Speaker 2: especially should have stools, but maybe all of us should 608 00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:31,960 Speaker 2: have stools because those things last way too long to 609 00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:33,480 Speaker 2: be standing still in heels. 610 00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:36,680 Speaker 1: I love that she said it, and I think it 611 00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:39,960 Speaker 1: would have been a great ad for this show. I 612 00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:41,520 Speaker 1: think it'd been hilarious for all of them to be 613 00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:42,200 Speaker 1: sitting down like. 614 00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:44,080 Speaker 2: I think it'd be in the next row ceremony. Could 615 00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:46,160 Speaker 2: you imagine the next row ceremony they all have stools, 616 00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:49,160 Speaker 2: which the stools is gonna look classy. Get some velvet stools. 617 00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:52,600 Speaker 1: I think it would be a great idea. I really 618 00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:55,480 Speaker 1: like Natasha. In fact, halfway through this episode, I told 619 00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:57,800 Speaker 1: Jess she is my favorite because I just love when 620 00:30:57,800 --> 00:30:59,880 Speaker 1: she comes on television. She's always having a good time, 621 00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:02,920 Speaker 1: she's always making good jokes. She's always there to like 622 00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:07,240 Speaker 1: to brighten up whatever is going on, and so I 623 00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:09,360 Speaker 1: am sad that she's gone, but the ones that are 624 00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:14,240 Speaker 1: left are April, Leslie Joe. 625 00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:17,760 Speaker 2: Let's just quick quick mention about Leslie because he does 626 00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:20,720 Speaker 2: corner her and say, how does it feel to present 627 00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:22,000 Speaker 2: yourself in such a sexy way? 628 00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:24,280 Speaker 1: Oh? 629 00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:28,360 Speaker 2: I know, I mean I was like, ohh, he's got 630 00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:30,920 Speaker 2: the He actually see he likes her, so he's got 631 00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:31,800 Speaker 2: the hots for her. 632 00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:42,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, he wants to make out. Leslie's on his mind. Joan, Edith, Ellen, Sandra, Susan, Christina, Faith, Nancy, April, Kathy, 633 00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:48,080 Speaker 1: and obviously Teresa are left going into next week. In 634 00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:50,800 Speaker 1: the next week's preview, we got a hot air balloon date. 635 00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:54,280 Speaker 1: We do see Kathy getting emotional. Women are starting to 636 00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:57,800 Speaker 1: get jealous, which I did not think we would see eventually. 637 00:31:58,120 --> 00:31:59,720 Speaker 2: Eventually I imagined it. 638 00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:02,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I think that when emotions get high 639 00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:07,240 Speaker 1: and attraction runs deep, then obviously people start to get 640 00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:09,320 Speaker 1: more invested and jealousy comes out. 641 00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:12,640 Speaker 2: Well. Ben and I are done with recapping the episode, 642 00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:15,760 Speaker 2: but we still want more thoughts, and we want the 643 00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:21,320 Speaker 2: thoughts from somebody of the age group, ish of the cast, 644 00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:25,160 Speaker 2: and to this week we have one of our producers, Kendall. 645 00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:28,920 Speaker 2: Her grandmother has agreed to give us her thoughts. Big 646 00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:31,760 Speaker 2: fan of the whole franchise. She's an eighty seven year 647 00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:35,920 Speaker 2: old and we cannot wait to hear from her. Let's 648 00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:36,320 Speaker 2: get her on. 649 00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:49,680 Speaker 1: All right, Well, we have a very special guest today. 650 00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:53,960 Speaker 1: As we mentioned, we have one of our producers, grandmother's 651 00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:57,240 Speaker 1: on lovingly name. Can we call you Mamy? 652 00:32:57,640 --> 00:32:58,280 Speaker 4: Absolutely? 653 00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:01,280 Speaker 1: All right, Mamie, let's get star. You were just sharing 654 00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:04,959 Speaker 1: with Ashley and I that you keep a scoreboard every episode. 655 00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:08,640 Speaker 2: Every episode of the Bachelor, right, and now you've added 656 00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:10,680 Speaker 2: a scoreboard to your viewing of. 657 00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:13,640 Speaker 4: The Golden Bachelorret that's correct. 658 00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:15,280 Speaker 2: Okay, great? So what does the scoreboard mean? 659 00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:20,360 Speaker 4: It means who I think couldn't get cut? What little 660 00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:22,320 Speaker 4: notes about them? So? 661 00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:24,600 Speaker 2: Who was on your list initially on this episode? 662 00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:27,160 Speaker 4: Everybody? 663 00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:29,320 Speaker 2: Oh, everybody was on the chopping blox. 664 00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:33,440 Speaker 1: Everybody makes the list, Ashley, everybody needs a point and then. 665 00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:37,960 Speaker 2: You okay, okay, okay, okay. So what I mean I 666 00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:43,600 Speaker 2: guess is like, think throughout the episode, who were you like? 667 00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:46,000 Speaker 2: All right, she's probably a goner. 668 00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:51,200 Speaker 4: Oh well, you know with the Bachelor, they always keep 669 00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:53,479 Speaker 4: somebody that's a little rough around the edges. 670 00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:55,680 Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, So. 671 00:33:57,080 --> 00:34:02,520 Speaker 4: I I'm not a fan of pathy. Okay, I think 672 00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:04,800 Speaker 4: she's a little rough, and I don't think that's first 673 00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:08,319 Speaker 4: of all, he's wonderful mm hmm. But I think she's 674 00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:09,120 Speaker 4: a little rough. 675 00:34:09,560 --> 00:34:14,719 Speaker 1: And Ellen, you don't like Alan, No, she's entitled to 676 00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:21,000 Speaker 1: her own opinions. Here, Ashley, what's the note that you 677 00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:22,120 Speaker 1: have for each of those women? 678 00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:28,960 Speaker 4: Kathy, I have a little rough around the edges, and 679 00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:36,719 Speaker 4: Allan comes on too strong, So Ashley, Susan is a 680 00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:38,839 Speaker 4: nice lady, but not for him. 681 00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:40,520 Speaker 2: I probably agree. 682 00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:42,400 Speaker 4: She's a little rough around the edges. 683 00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:43,440 Speaker 2: She's very Jersey. 684 00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:48,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, but she's kind. She fixes her hair and stuff, 685 00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:50,000 Speaker 4: but she's very kind. 686 00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:53,319 Speaker 2: Oh the way that she did Teresa's hair was so 687 00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:57,120 Speaker 2: sweet and then ruined the car. 688 00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:06,560 Speaker 4: That would be me funny. My favorite is Nancy. 689 00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:10,160 Speaker 2: Nancy I understand. 690 00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:15,120 Speaker 4: I understand the wedding dress thing. I understand that. I 691 00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:18,239 Speaker 4: think she's very sweet. I don't know how long she's 692 00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:19,760 Speaker 4: going to last, but I like her. 693 00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:21,160 Speaker 2: Are you still married? 694 00:35:22,080 --> 00:35:25,640 Speaker 4: No, I've been a uh for twenty four years. 695 00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:29,720 Speaker 2: Twenty four years. I'm so sorry. That's a long time. 696 00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:32,600 Speaker 4: It's a long time. But it's funny. When she did 697 00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:35,520 Speaker 4: the wedding dress because I was telling my daughter that 698 00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:38,160 Speaker 4: it did it for me with a heath candy bar. 699 00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:39,160 Speaker 4: Isn't that funny? 700 00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:42,840 Speaker 2: It's Gary said it was cinnamon. 701 00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:46,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, it was his favorite. And I went to a 702 00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:50,360 Speaker 4: vending machine instead of bringing what I want, a heath 703 00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:55,000 Speaker 4: candy bar came out and I cried so much and hyperventilated, 704 00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:58,640 Speaker 4: and I was on a big, busy highway and I 705 00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:00,480 Speaker 4: didn't know if I could get home, but I made it. 706 00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:03,080 Speaker 2: That was your husband. That was a sign from him, 707 00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:03,600 Speaker 2: for sure. 708 00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:07,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, he leaves pennies for enough about me. 709 00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:09,960 Speaker 2: I like talking about you too. 710 00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:14,560 Speaker 4: Oh, he leaves pennies. Did you ever hear that? 711 00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:17,279 Speaker 2: Yeah, I've heard about them leaving coins. 712 00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:21,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, sometimes you wonder he didn't leave a coin. So 713 00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:23,160 Speaker 4: I guess it's okay for me to do this. 714 00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:29,759 Speaker 1: You know, maybe this, uh, this is going into such 715 00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:33,760 Speaker 1: this this conversation here is going into such an interesting 716 00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:37,279 Speaker 1: part of this show. You know, I imagine or based 717 00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:38,839 Speaker 1: on what you're telling us earlier. You've been a fan 718 00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:41,839 Speaker 1: of the Bachelor franchise for a while. You've watched most 719 00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:48,160 Speaker 1: of the seasons. Have you been relating with the Golden 720 00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:52,640 Speaker 1: Bachelor in a way that maybe was unexpected or did 721 00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:54,399 Speaker 1: you believe that you were going to watch this show 722 00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:56,160 Speaker 1: and be like, No, these are moments that I can 723 00:36:56,560 --> 00:36:59,000 Speaker 1: I've definitely felt, and I can feel for them. 724 00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:03,520 Speaker 4: No, it's hard to say. I was anxious to see 725 00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:07,040 Speaker 4: what he was like, and I was very pleasantly surprised. 726 00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:10,279 Speaker 4: He's a good guy. I can see that. And the 727 00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:12,680 Speaker 4: women were very, very nice. So as I said, I 728 00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:19,880 Speaker 4: didn't knock anyone out the first my scorge sheep. But 729 00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:22,760 Speaker 4: I don't know if I would relate to them. I laughed, 730 00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:24,960 Speaker 4: because the bunk beds. That was the dumbest thing in 731 00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:31,680 Speaker 4: the world. Plus year old girls going to climb up 732 00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:34,040 Speaker 4: into a bunk bed when we get down off of 733 00:37:34,040 --> 00:37:35,439 Speaker 4: it in the middle of the night, at least once 734 00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:37,919 Speaker 4: or twice. 735 00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:42,480 Speaker 2: There's no way to fit everybody in the house otherwise though, 736 00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:43,319 Speaker 2: I know. 737 00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:52,040 Speaker 4: But now they've eliminated people, so hopefully that's true. But 738 00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:56,120 Speaker 4: the ladies all seem very nice. I hope they're all 739 00:37:56,200 --> 00:37:58,959 Speaker 4: right there for the right reason and not just because 740 00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:00,480 Speaker 4: they want to sell something. 741 00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:05,799 Speaker 1: Yeah, I was gonna say, I mean I think they are. 742 00:38:05,960 --> 00:38:07,799 Speaker 1: I think I would have a hard time picking out 743 00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:14,080 Speaker 1: anybody that feels like they're not there for the right reasons, Ashley, 744 00:38:14,080 --> 00:38:17,359 Speaker 1: I am curious you had mentioned when Mamie said that 745 00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:19,839 Speaker 1: she wasn't a fan of Ellen that you said you were. 746 00:38:20,239 --> 00:38:22,799 Speaker 1: Why are you a fan of Ellen? And do you 747 00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:24,879 Speaker 1: agree maybe she is a little too forward. 748 00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:28,359 Speaker 2: I think she's adored. I think she's adorable. I don't know. 749 00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:34,040 Speaker 2: She seems warm and she's player. She likes pickleball. Sure, 750 00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:37,720 Speaker 2: I do agree with you made me though on Kathy, 751 00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:39,680 Speaker 2: she's a little intense, she's extra. 752 00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:42,120 Speaker 4: Yeah. I like Faith. 753 00:38:43,239 --> 00:38:51,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, something's happening with Faith. You see in the scenes 754 00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:54,600 Speaker 2: for the next episodes the teaser it says it looks 755 00:38:54,600 --> 00:38:58,000 Speaker 2: like Faith leaves on her own. Oh, I think she 756 00:38:58,040 --> 00:38:59,040 Speaker 2: can't handle the pressure. 757 00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:01,640 Speaker 1: I think of two, ash I think it's like one 758 00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:03,480 Speaker 1: of those moments where worries. 759 00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:04,319 Speaker 4: Me about Nancy. 760 00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:10,040 Speaker 2: Yeah. I feel like we have more people here that 761 00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:12,840 Speaker 2: probably are just like, Oh, I've lost before in a 762 00:39:12,840 --> 00:39:14,839 Speaker 2: big way, and I don't I don't need to put 763 00:39:14,840 --> 00:39:16,439 Speaker 2: myself in a losing situation again. 764 00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:16,799 Speaker 4: Yeah. 765 00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:19,839 Speaker 1: Yeah, the emotions feel like they're just going to get 766 00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:22,000 Speaker 1: higher and higher, you know, for this show. Like I 767 00:39:22,239 --> 00:39:26,799 Speaker 1: actually think that's probably a concern of the producer's part 768 00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:28,560 Speaker 1: when they put the show together. Is that by the 769 00:39:28,640 --> 00:39:30,759 Speaker 1: end of the season, like our emotions just going to 770 00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:34,160 Speaker 1: be like so on edge because everybody's so in it 771 00:39:34,239 --> 00:39:36,080 Speaker 1: and you already get to see it. Maybe I am, 772 00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:38,360 Speaker 1: you know, for all the listeners out there, because they 773 00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:41,960 Speaker 1: won't be able to watch this. What categories are you 774 00:39:42,640 --> 00:39:46,279 Speaker 1: scoring each contestant on on your scorecard? What it? I 775 00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:47,759 Speaker 1: know you have notes, and I know you have all 776 00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:51,040 Speaker 1: the names, but is it walk us through how you 777 00:39:51,120 --> 00:39:53,239 Speaker 1: do this scorecard in case somebody at home wants to 778 00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:54,080 Speaker 1: recreate it. 779 00:39:55,920 --> 00:39:58,880 Speaker 4: Created. I put down all their names, some of them 780 00:39:59,040 --> 00:40:01,480 Speaker 4: might forget, and then I have dad who they are 781 00:40:01,560 --> 00:40:04,480 Speaker 4: because I thought they got acts if they didn't, and 782 00:40:04,520 --> 00:40:07,000 Speaker 4: then I make comments about them like pretty girl with 783 00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:10,839 Speaker 4: long long hair, nice smile, or you know, so I'm 784 00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:14,840 Speaker 4: just cheat or something like that. That's my scorecard. Mostly 785 00:40:15,480 --> 00:40:18,160 Speaker 4: it's came on strong and did a good job of 786 00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:19,879 Speaker 4: selling herself. Do you know who that is? 787 00:40:20,520 --> 00:40:30,720 Speaker 2: Leslie? Leslie? No, no, selling herself, Teresa. 788 00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:35,200 Speaker 4: As soon as I sat down in that booth, she started, 789 00:40:36,040 --> 00:40:39,080 Speaker 4: mm hmmm, my friends. I don't think any of my 790 00:40:39,160 --> 00:40:40,480 Speaker 4: friends would ever act like that. 791 00:40:43,719 --> 00:40:46,399 Speaker 2: What do you mean by selling herself? What did she say? 792 00:40:46,680 --> 00:40:49,279 Speaker 4: She said that I love you so much. I think 793 00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:51,479 Speaker 4: you're wonderful. I think we'd be wonderful to get. 794 00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:56,640 Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, she makes a strong push, like immediately, Yes, 795 00:40:56,920 --> 00:40:58,759 Speaker 1: my dear, Yes, yes I do. 796 00:40:58,960 --> 00:41:00,960 Speaker 2: I do think that that's some thing that a woman 797 00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:04,279 Speaker 2: in her sixties can get away with. By if a 798 00:41:04,360 --> 00:41:07,680 Speaker 2: girl in her twenties or thirties on The Bachelor said 799 00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:10,879 Speaker 2: that it would it would come off differently. Yeah, that's 800 00:41:10,920 --> 00:41:15,879 Speaker 2: what we'd be like, little girl, hold on, you know, 801 00:41:16,239 --> 00:41:16,680 Speaker 2: I love you. 802 00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:19,360 Speaker 1: I'm ready to move. I kind of hear that in Paradise. 803 00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:24,920 Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, I was going to say that, Oh, 804 00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:29,640 Speaker 5: it's funny because most of my friends are very widows 805 00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:34,040 Speaker 5: because I live in a fifty five and over active community, 806 00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:40,040 Speaker 5: and they're absolutely not interested in finding another man at all. 807 00:41:40,600 --> 00:41:44,560 Speaker 4: But my mother in law, on the other case, when 808 00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:49,000 Speaker 4: her she was veryed three times four times anyway, cut 809 00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:52,399 Speaker 4: lost kind on her as soon as she put one 810 00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:55,520 Speaker 4: in the grave. She was out buying a new convertible. 811 00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:02,520 Speaker 4: Had to have a man. And there are women like that, 812 00:42:02,560 --> 00:42:04,160 Speaker 4: and I think these women are like that. 813 00:42:04,880 --> 00:42:07,120 Speaker 2: Okay, what do you think about Gary? You mentioned that 814 00:42:07,120 --> 00:42:09,799 Speaker 2: you really liked him earlier. I was saying yesterday during 815 00:42:09,840 --> 00:42:13,840 Speaker 2: the episode, Holy moly, there's no way we will be 816 00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:17,759 Speaker 2: able to find another man to be the second, or 817 00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:19,640 Speaker 2: the third, or the fourth Golden Bachelor that's going to 818 00:42:19,719 --> 00:42:23,160 Speaker 2: compare to him. You're always going to compare people now 819 00:42:23,239 --> 00:42:25,120 Speaker 2: to the wonderfulness that is Gary. 820 00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:31,200 Speaker 4: I think you're right. We had to say, and I said, 821 00:42:31,239 --> 00:42:37,760 Speaker 4: he could put his shoes under my bed anytime. 822 00:42:37,880 --> 00:42:41,640 Speaker 2: You've got yourself a permanent spot here on almost have 823 00:42:41,640 --> 00:42:42,680 Speaker 2: his podcast. 824 00:42:42,320 --> 00:42:45,839 Speaker 4: Recaptured McConaughey, but it might be him. 825 00:42:45,960 --> 00:42:51,160 Speaker 1: Now we go from Matthew McConaughey to Gary. You know, 826 00:42:51,239 --> 00:42:53,560 Speaker 1: I was, as we close up with you here, maybe 827 00:42:53,640 --> 00:42:57,520 Speaker 1: I was watching Ashley and I wanted to tell you this. 828 00:42:57,760 --> 00:43:02,400 Speaker 1: I was watching last night's episode, and you know, obviously 829 00:43:02,440 --> 00:43:04,759 Speaker 1: seven point seven million viewers, we're going to get into that. 830 00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:07,920 Speaker 1: We already have gotten into that. Maybe where so many 831 00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:11,359 Speaker 1: people are watching this show right now? And Gary is 832 00:43:12,320 --> 00:43:14,160 Speaker 1: you know seventy one. I don't know if he turned 833 00:43:14,160 --> 00:43:16,480 Speaker 1: seventy one on the show. He was seventy two. 834 00:43:16,600 --> 00:43:17,920 Speaker 4: He had a birthday celebration. 835 00:43:18,080 --> 00:43:19,640 Speaker 2: I think it might be of turning seventy two. 836 00:43:19,719 --> 00:43:22,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, they didn't seventy two. He I've you know, I've 837 00:43:22,680 --> 00:43:25,000 Speaker 1: been able to speak with him on the phone twice now, 838 00:43:25,480 --> 00:43:28,960 Speaker 1: and each time this was kind of before the season started, 839 00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:33,120 Speaker 1: and he was very naive to the the the exposure 840 00:43:33,200 --> 00:43:35,280 Speaker 1: and kind of the faming attention he was going to get. 841 00:43:35,640 --> 00:43:37,040 Speaker 1: And I was watching this in Asai. I don't think 842 00:43:37,040 --> 00:43:39,360 Speaker 1: this show's going anywhere. I think Gary is going to 843 00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:42,920 Speaker 1: be kind of the like standard now for every Golden 844 00:43:42,920 --> 00:43:46,400 Speaker 1: Bachelor season from here on out. This dude's life more 845 00:43:46,640 --> 00:43:50,320 Speaker 1: we know, yes, but this dude's life has drastically changed 846 00:43:50,320 --> 00:43:53,040 Speaker 1: at seventy two years old, Like he went from fishing 847 00:43:53,160 --> 00:43:58,319 Speaker 1: and playing golf in northern Indiana to being a legit celebrity. 848 00:43:58,360 --> 00:43:59,920 Speaker 1: I think I think he's going to come after this 849 00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:02,400 Speaker 1: and people are going to want to follow Gary's story 850 00:44:02,480 --> 00:44:03,600 Speaker 1: for ever. 851 00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:06,520 Speaker 4: I agree with you as I said, I think he's 852 00:44:06,560 --> 00:44:09,839 Speaker 4: a very special person. He really is. 853 00:44:10,640 --> 00:44:12,439 Speaker 2: They hit the gold mine finding him. 854 00:44:12,760 --> 00:44:15,640 Speaker 1: What would it feel like, maybe if you were seventy 855 00:44:15,640 --> 00:44:19,920 Speaker 1: two years old and you, you know, had lived the 856 00:44:19,960 --> 00:44:21,680 Speaker 1: life you lived up to that point, and then all 857 00:44:21,719 --> 00:44:23,400 Speaker 1: of a sudden you find yourself on the side of 858 00:44:23,440 --> 00:44:26,320 Speaker 1: billboards and the side of buildings and on talk shows 859 00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:28,800 Speaker 1: like just give us a perspective, what you think that 860 00:44:28,840 --> 00:44:30,239 Speaker 1: would feel like at seventy two? 861 00:44:31,440 --> 00:44:35,799 Speaker 4: It would be funny and it would be funny and 862 00:44:35,880 --> 00:44:39,600 Speaker 4: thrilling for about the first couple of weeks maybe, and 863 00:44:39,640 --> 00:44:43,200 Speaker 4: then it was this is too much. You know, that's 864 00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:43,759 Speaker 4: the end of that. 865 00:44:45,239 --> 00:44:48,600 Speaker 2: And my last question to you is how would you 866 00:44:48,719 --> 00:44:53,160 Speaker 2: feel if your grandchildren are watching you kiss on TV? 867 00:44:53,680 --> 00:44:56,880 Speaker 4: I think they lived gross. I don't even want to 868 00:44:56,880 --> 00:44:57,520 Speaker 4: see them. 869 00:44:57,400 --> 00:45:04,239 Speaker 2: Kiss even the best. Thank you so much, and your 870 00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:08,400 Speaker 2: granddaughter laughs in our in our group chat, here's. 871 00:45:08,920 --> 00:45:11,280 Speaker 1: Maybe you got a great family. They're all awesome. 872 00:45:11,360 --> 00:45:14,239 Speaker 4: So I ask you one final question when you said 873 00:45:14,360 --> 00:45:18,400 Speaker 4: how many people watch? Is it only elderly or is 874 00:45:18,440 --> 00:45:19,800 Speaker 4: it the young people are watching? 875 00:45:20,040 --> 00:45:23,920 Speaker 2: To thank everyone? That's what's special about this season is 876 00:45:23,960 --> 00:45:28,080 Speaker 2: like they have the full range of a demographic terricly. 877 00:45:28,719 --> 00:45:32,439 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I think the metrics that usually get 878 00:45:32,480 --> 00:45:35,080 Speaker 1: measured by like eighteen to forty five, I think this 879 00:45:35,160 --> 00:45:38,279 Speaker 1: show is blowing, Like is making the metrics go into 880 00:45:38,360 --> 00:45:41,759 Speaker 1: chaos because it's like eighteen to you know, we don't 881 00:45:41,800 --> 00:45:44,400 Speaker 1: need ninety. Yeah, we don't know how to figure this one? 882 00:45:44,960 --> 00:45:45,920 Speaker 1: Ads doing it? 883 00:45:46,160 --> 00:45:50,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, I know everybody, it's fun. It's fun. 884 00:45:50,760 --> 00:45:52,960 Speaker 1: Sure is well, you're fun, You're great. Thanks for coming on. 885 00:45:53,000 --> 00:45:55,520 Speaker 1: We hope to have you again. Mami. I really appreciate 886 00:45:55,520 --> 00:45:56,200 Speaker 1: you taking time. 887 00:45:56,640 --> 00:45:59,960 Speaker 2: Okay, bye bye bye. 888 00:46:00,239 --> 00:46:03,440 Speaker 1: Was freaking what was that? You can keep the shoes? Now? 889 00:46:03,480 --> 00:46:04,680 Speaker 1: What's the saying I want to start using? 890 00:46:04,840 --> 00:46:06,359 Speaker 2: Put his shoes under my bed? 891 00:46:07,080 --> 00:46:07,920 Speaker 1: Oh? I love it. 892 00:46:08,320 --> 00:46:11,440 Speaker 2: I love you like Twains, whose boots? Who's been have 893 00:46:11,480 --> 00:46:12,279 Speaker 2: your boots been under? 894 00:46:12,920 --> 00:46:17,879 Speaker 1: I love his boots under my bed Ashley. Two weeks 895 00:46:17,880 --> 00:46:21,640 Speaker 1: in a row with two incredible guests breaking down the 896 00:46:21,719 --> 00:46:25,360 Speaker 1: Golden Bachelor. Obviously, their perspective is going to be unique different. 897 00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:32,799 Speaker 1: I love that maybe can come to us with like 898 00:46:32,880 --> 00:46:35,120 Speaker 1: the relatability saying, hey, I know what it's like to 899 00:46:35,160 --> 00:46:38,200 Speaker 1: have that random moment right whereas you smell cinnamon, you 900 00:46:38,200 --> 00:46:40,000 Speaker 1: put on a wedding dress, you have a heath bar, 901 00:46:40,080 --> 00:46:42,840 Speaker 1: whatever it is, and it really brings up emotions. I 902 00:46:42,880 --> 00:46:46,360 Speaker 1: also just love I was interested in what you know, 903 00:46:46,400 --> 00:46:49,239 Speaker 1: watching last night and asking Maymi today, like what would 904 00:46:49,280 --> 00:46:52,000 Speaker 1: it be like to be really famous right away at 905 00:46:52,040 --> 00:46:54,080 Speaker 1: seventy two? And I think she's right to be really 906 00:46:54,080 --> 00:46:56,879 Speaker 1: fun for a few weeks, but then I could see 907 00:46:56,880 --> 00:47:00,000 Speaker 1: it being like no, like I've got all the money 908 00:47:00,120 --> 00:47:02,400 Speaker 1: I want. I don't want anybody else breathing down my 909 00:47:02,440 --> 00:47:06,600 Speaker 1: neck thinking about my life. Like I'm good, Stop stop 910 00:47:06,640 --> 00:47:09,120 Speaker 1: asking me questions. But I have a feeling Gary's life 911 00:47:09,280 --> 00:47:10,440 Speaker 1: is forever going to be changed. 912 00:47:10,920 --> 00:47:13,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, probably, I mean hopefully. You know, he does live 913 00:47:13,360 --> 00:47:16,280 Speaker 2: in a space like he lives in you know, rural 914 00:47:16,400 --> 00:47:20,080 Speaker 2: ish Indiana that like he can always like escape whim 915 00:47:20,080 --> 00:47:22,240 Speaker 2: why if he wants. But he's gonna be called back 916 00:47:22,320 --> 00:47:24,680 Speaker 2: from the show like all the time now, you know, 917 00:47:24,800 --> 00:47:27,160 Speaker 2: like he's gonna be taking more LA trips than he's 918 00:47:27,200 --> 00:47:27,920 Speaker 2: ever imagined. 919 00:47:28,640 --> 00:47:31,840 Speaker 1: Poor guy. Well, hey, this has been another episode of 920 00:47:32,400 --> 00:47:34,920 Speaker 1: all the Almost Famous podcasts breaking down episode two of 921 00:47:35,000 --> 00:47:38,920 Speaker 1: The Golden Bachelor. As Ashley mentioned earlier, and as I agree, 922 00:47:39,320 --> 00:47:43,480 Speaker 1: this show is good. It's really good. We're loving it. 923 00:47:43,560 --> 00:47:47,000 Speaker 1: So hey, we'll be back next time again a full 924 00:47:47,080 --> 00:47:49,960 Speaker 1: slate of content coming your way. But until next time, 925 00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:51,560 Speaker 1: I've been Ben, I've been Ashley. 926 00:47:51,960 --> 00:47:55,440 Speaker 2: Thank you for listening. Bye. Follow the Ben and Ashley 927 00:47:55,480 --> 00:47:59,400 Speaker 2: I Almost Famous podcast on iHeartRadio or subscribe wherever you 928 00:47:59,440 --> 00:48:00,359 Speaker 2: listen to pod Guess