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Speaker 1: What if.

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Speaker 3: Campsite media.

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Speaker 1: So I've got a good question for you here to

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Speaker 1: start the day.

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Speaker 2: M h.

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Speaker 1: I think you're gonna have I hope you're gonna have

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Speaker 1: a great answer for this one.

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Speaker 2: So okay, a lot of pressure here we go.

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Speaker 1: What's the weirdest or the worst thing you've ever snorted?

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Speaker 2: Oh? Well, if you were trying to get me to drugs,

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Speaker 2: I'll never give you that, Josh, I'll never give you

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Speaker 2: that I've snorted drugs. In fact, this makes me think

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Speaker 2: the whole podcast up until now has been a trap.

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Speaker 2: Damn it, you're a nar all right, drop the show.

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Speaker 2: He knows he figured it out. I would probably the

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Speaker 2: craziest thing I've ever snorted was an eraser off of

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Speaker 2: a pencil, and luckily was able to blow it right

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Speaker 2: back out, because I can't imagine the road that would

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Speaker 1: Like I am, I once tried snuff and it was

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Speaker 1: just terrible. And I don't smoke and I never chewed

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Speaker 1: and it was god awful.

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Speaker 2: And you tried to snort it.

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Speaker 1: Well, that is a thing that people do, I think,

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Speaker 1: or was I using it wrong.

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Speaker 2: I want to say, you were using it wrong, dam

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Speaker 2: I think, isn't it like dip or like chew?

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Speaker 1: If it was, then it definitely went in the wrong orifice.

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Speaker 1: Well say as dumb as these criminals, Josh, I mean,

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Speaker 1: they didn't choose me to host for snuff is nothing

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Speaker 1: compared to what we're going to talk about this week

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Speaker 1: on Crime List, when we tackle the very important and

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Speaker 1: often uncomfortable matter of fake drugs, Starting with a story

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Speaker 1: about some burglars who thought they'd stumbled into a giant

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Speaker 1: stash of cocaine, only to find out later it definitely

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Speaker 1: wasn't cocaine. What was it? That's after the break. Welcome

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Speaker 1: back to Crime lest, the podcast that celebrates the amazing

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Speaker 1: creativity of the world's dumbest criminals.

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Speaker 2: I'm Josh Dean and I am Rory Scoville, and I

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Speaker 2: would just like to let everyone know during the break

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Speaker 2: we looked it up. Josh was right, you can snort

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Speaker 2: snuff ha vindicata. There there you go.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it didn't make me any cooler or less.

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Speaker 2: Yes it did. Our listeners, now hold you way above me.

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Speaker 2: They know that I'm a nerd who doesn't how to

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Speaker 2: do drugs, and they know that you've done.

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Speaker 1: Drugs tobacco anyway, So I'm not exactly up on my

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Speaker 1: statutes of limitation. See what I did there, Like attorneys general.

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Speaker 1: So I'm not going to ask you invasive questions about

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Speaker 1: your own drug use except when completely necessary.

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Speaker 2: Perfect.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you live in Colorado, so we can all

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Speaker 2: There you go, edibles, joint, I smoke snuff, I swallow snuff,

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Speaker 2: I ingest snuff. No, I think Colorado it's fully legal

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Speaker 1: Road trip too, We're gonna tape in Colorado and we're

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Speaker 1: all gonna eat shrooms before, Yeah.

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Speaker 2: And do an episode, a live episode, the first live

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Speaker 1: Well, that's actually a great idea.

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Speaker 1: Anyway, We're not here to talk about real drug this week.

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Speaker 1: We're talking fake drugs. Yeah, which for me is a

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Speaker 1: twenty eleven. That's the year of the Japanese tsunami, Kate's

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Speaker 1: for the story of five young dudes in Silver Springs Shores,

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Speaker 2: Florida classic, here we go.

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Speaker 1: Do you know where Silver Springs Shores is?

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Speaker 2: By chance? No one does, No one ever will well

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's kind of important because Silver Springs Shores

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Speaker 1: It's so on branch.

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Speaker 1: How many people bought houses in Silver Springs Shores?

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Speaker 1: And then two juveniles who I'm going to guess were

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Speaker 1: with a woman coming home and realizing she's been robbed.

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Speaker 1: She's missing some electronics, she's missing some jewelry, set of

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Speaker 1: vases or vases? Are you vas or vase? Guy?

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Speaker 2: I say vase?

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Speaker 2: I also say aunt instead of aunt.

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Speaker 2: I think I say vace, You say oz.

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Speaker 1: I think I say I think I say it both

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Speaker 2: You know what I say vase, And internally I think

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Speaker 1: Okay, So these two vases contained the cremated ashes of

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Speaker 1: And I know what you're thinking. Why the hell would

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Speaker 1: Oh yes, So this is what I'm talking about. These

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Speaker 2: do you say it right or do you see it wrong?

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Speaker 2: I'm dumb, Josh Well. Trick question because it's an urn.

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Speaker 1: Do you say urn or orn?

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Speaker 1: Also my favorite couch an aikiya love the urn?

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Speaker 1: So the burglars realized it wasn't actually cocaine, well probably

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Speaker 1: I'm guessing one of them finds these urns and convinces

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Speaker 2: Do you think this is the only time in human

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Speaker 2: an error this is.

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Speaker 1: I have a surprise for you. Just hang in there,

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Speaker 1: because I didn't even tee that question up.

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Speaker 1: So these three adults are charged with multiple counts of robbery.

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Speaker 1: Not sure what happened to the juveniles other than I'm

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Speaker 1: But in March twenty fifteen in Missouri, three teens, again teens,

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, Oh I just all right.

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Speaker 1: I mean, have you seen an earned full of ashes before?

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Speaker 2: I've seen an urn. I've never opened it just because

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Speaker 1: Yeah, like I don't know that they're pure white, and

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Speaker 2: Like, was anybody like who lives here? Escabar? This is

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's where I keep my drugs on the mantle,

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Speaker 2: Somebody comes by, Hey, sit down. Just sit down. I

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Speaker 2: don't have to go get it's right here.

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Speaker 1: According to a local cop quote, one of the suspects

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Speaker 1: I mean, I guess that's the natural. So the first

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I just I got to say, I

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Speaker 1: Ultimately, the trend of creamine lining, so several of these

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Speaker 1: I'd love to see their faces when these thieves realize,

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Speaker 2: Keith Richards thought all of our reactions would be but

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Speaker 1: Right, Not to give anything away, but I think you're

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Speaker 3: I can think of no good reason to snort quote

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Speaker 1: So that's the top ants. That's the most top voted

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Speaker 2: I think I like that it's the most top I

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Speaker 1: You should go to a therapist if you're snorting. So

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Speaker 2: Sure.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if a bunch of chemicals are used

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Speaker 3: I never snorted George. I certainly thought of it.

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Speaker 1: This was from a woman who was like, clearly contemplated

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Speaker 1: And naturally went to Reddit to work that out.

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Speaker 2: Oh, then it's probably fine. Yeah, now we're all made

442
00:22:32,359 --> 00:22:33,680
Speaker 2: out of microplastics.

443
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Speaker 1: I mean, I think I know the answer to this,

444
00:22:35,720 --> 00:22:38,440
Speaker 1: but I got to finish this particular segment with a

445
00:22:38,560 --> 00:22:41,280
Speaker 1: question Rora, which is, on the tragic occasion that your

446
00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:44,119
Speaker 1: wife predeceases you, would you snort her ashes?

447
00:22:44,440 --> 00:22:49,280
Speaker 2: I like that term predeceases? Would I snort her ashes?

448
00:22:49,520 --> 00:22:55,000
Speaker 2: I think it's safe to say I will not do that.

449
00:22:55,520 --> 00:22:57,840
Speaker 2: All I do is make all these jokes this whole episode,

450
00:22:57,840 --> 00:23:00,480
Speaker 2: and at the end, I'm like, I mean, I try it. Hell,

451
00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:01,520
Speaker 2: come on, it'll be fun.

452
00:23:03,760 --> 00:23:04,640
Speaker 1: Come on, sweetie.

453
00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:06,800
Speaker 2: I would have to be in the darkest place I've

454
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Speaker 2: ever been to also ask someone who hasn't done coke

455
00:23:12,320 --> 00:23:13,600
Speaker 2: but decided to try that.

456
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Speaker 1: I think that's the right answer. When she listens to this,

457
00:23:19,320 --> 00:23:19,960
Speaker 1: she'll be happy.

458
00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:22,239
Speaker 2: She'll be so happy, or she'll be insulted like, oh,

459
00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:24,720
Speaker 2: I'm not good enough. Oh I'm not good as good.

460
00:23:24,600 --> 00:23:27,160
Speaker 1: As coke, as good as Keith Richards's dad.

461
00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:30,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, at least Keith Richards had respect for his father.

462
00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:35,399
Speaker 1: So more fake drugs coming up. Let's all snort some

463
00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:41,520
Speaker 1: caffeinated crystal light and meet back here after the break.

464
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Speaker 1: This is Carlos, Okay, So teen criminals snorting dog bones

465
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Speaker 1: by accident is one thing I think we can agree.

466
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Speaker 1: It's sort of hilarious except to the dog owner. But

467
00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:01,920
Speaker 1: there's a larger theme here too, And I wanted to

468
00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:04,360
Speaker 1: spend what's left of our show talking about people who

469
00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:08,880
Speaker 1: purposely sell fake drugs. Oh oh, and maybe this isn't

470
00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:10,720
Speaker 1: a surprise to you, but the world of fake drug

471
00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:13,360
Speaker 1: sales is robust. There are a lot of people out

472
00:24:13,359 --> 00:24:18,400
Speaker 1: there selling fake, counterfeit pills and powders, like some seriously

473
00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:20,720
Speaker 1: fucked up shit on a massive corporate scale, like a

474
00:24:20,800 --> 00:24:23,440
Speaker 1: the EJ indictment in Texas from February when an Indian

475
00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:27,880
Speaker 1: guy was charged with allegedly selling fake cancer drugs. Oh yeah,

476
00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:30,760
Speaker 1: awful to a case by the US Attorney in New

477
00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:34,119
Speaker 1: York City prosecuted last fall, in which eighteen guys were charged,

478
00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:38,160
Speaker 1: was selling counterfeit fentanyl and other opiates from fake online pharmacies,

479
00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:41,120
Speaker 1: which resulted in nine deaths. So don't want to bum

480
00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:42,760
Speaker 1: you out here. We're gonna move on. I just wanted

481
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Speaker 1: to say that this is rampant, and there are lots

482
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Speaker 1: of stories like this. The Internet and cheap shipping have

483
00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:50,480
Speaker 1: led to a golden age of online drug scams. Extremely

484
00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:53,240
Speaker 1: not funny stuff, but this is crimeless, and I'm going

485
00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:54,240
Speaker 1: to stop bumming you out.

486
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Speaker 2: Thank you, Josh. I mean Jesus, you've got to start

487
00:24:56,800 --> 00:24:59,359
Speaker 2: putting a warning before it gets real.

488
00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:01,720
Speaker 1: I can give you a break. If you want to

489
00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:04,280
Speaker 1: hit your bong, lighten things up, take some of those shrooms.

490
00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:06,639
Speaker 2: If you want to hit your bong and take a

491
00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:10,639
Speaker 2: deep snuff hit real quick, put some tobacco in your bong.

492
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Speaker 2: Don't you love that? That was like headshops back before

493
00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:16,000
Speaker 2: they were like legal, and you'd go in there and

494
00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:18,280
Speaker 2: there'd be a bong and everyone had to pretend that

495
00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:22,840
Speaker 2: was for tobacco. Oh h, could you imagine a tobacco

496
00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:28,040
Speaker 2: hit at that degree. That's a year's worth of cigarettes

497
00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:28,520
Speaker 2: right there.

498
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Speaker 1: Just a guy walking down the street hitting tobacco bong hits.

499
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Speaker 2: Like oh this, Oh no, this is tobacco. This is

500
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Speaker 2: how much I have to smoke. This is technically eighteen

501
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Speaker 2: packs a day.

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Speaker 1: All right, so let's resume our journey. Do you think

503
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Speaker 1: it's illegal to sell fake drugs in the small time sense?

504
00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:49,919
Speaker 1: I mean, like a reganos marijuana or an aspirin as

505
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Speaker 1: an oxy.

506
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Speaker 2: Do you think that's against all m I mean I

507
00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:57,359
Speaker 2: guess no, Like something like a regano. You could just

508
00:25:57,359 --> 00:25:59,080
Speaker 2: be like, no, I thought he wanted to buy some.

509
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Speaker 1: It is legal?

510
00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:03,160
Speaker 2: Good? Oh sorry, I'm in illegal. You didn't let me finish.

511
00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:04,359
Speaker 2: I think it's illegal.

512
00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:07,040
Speaker 1: Even if they even if you know they're fake, there

513
00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:09,640
Speaker 1: are state and federal laws against it. In Florida, it's

514
00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:12,359
Speaker 1: illegal to sell or offer someone a controlled substance and

515
00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:14,520
Speaker 1: then actually sell that person a different substance.

516
00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:18,080
Speaker 2: God, just think it's illegal to sell illegal drugs, and

517
00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:21,160
Speaker 2: it's illegal to sell not illegal drugs.

518
00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:26,280
Speaker 1: How is anybody supposed to know what to do? California

519
00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:30,879
Speaker 1: has the California Imitation Controlled Substance Act, which criminalizes both selling,

520
00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:34,640
Speaker 1: imitation and counterfeit drugs, and other states have crime specific

521
00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:38,320
Speaker 1: to selling imitation drugs Louisiana, Maine, New York, Texas, Washington.

522
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Speaker 1: That's not an exhaustive list. Check your local statutes, Rory.

523
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Speaker 1: If you're on tour and you're selling oregano, just check

524
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Speaker 1: the statutes.

525
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Speaker 2: This is good to know because my merch table is

526
00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:49,880
Speaker 2: growing after these stand up shows and I'm selling all

527
00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:50,920
Speaker 2: kinds of stuff.

528
00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:54,160
Speaker 1: Great day and ashes, great Dane.

529
00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:58,320
Speaker 2: Ashes, herbs, ORNs, herbs with ORNs, and vases.

530
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Speaker 1: You can also be charged with fraud in some cases,

531
00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:04,040
Speaker 1: and I'm guessing often you just get your ass kicked.

532
00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:08,359
Speaker 2: That's just street justice. Yeah, street justice.

533
00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:11,320
Speaker 1: Which brings me to an amazing story I stumbled on

534
00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:13,720
Speaker 1: during my research. All credit here to Wece, which I

535
00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:15,879
Speaker 1: think we could all acknowledge, should sort of own, the

536
00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:18,560
Speaker 1: fake drug beat back. When Vice first came to New

537
00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:20,480
Speaker 1: York City in the early odds, they had this magazine

538
00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:22,520
Speaker 1: cover that I will never forget. It was fully mirrored

539
00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:25,200
Speaker 1: with an embossed line of cocaine on it. This was

540
00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:30,000
Speaker 1: the cover of the magazine. Yeah, very cool, very edgy. Actually,

541
00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:31,440
Speaker 1: I'm sorry I'm giving a little bit too much credit

542
00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:33,520
Speaker 1: device because Vice actually took this story from someone else,

543
00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:35,960
Speaker 1: a website called muck rock. I read about it on

544
00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:38,639
Speaker 1: the Vice website, but it was an incredible piece of

545
00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:41,800
Speaker 1: history that was turned up from the declassified CIA archives.

546
00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:44,920
Speaker 1: Back in the early seventies, at the height of reefer madness,

547
00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:48,439
Speaker 1: the extremely square Central Intelligence Agency made a booth for

548
00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:50,760
Speaker 1: display at events. It was one of those booths like

549
00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:52,520
Speaker 1: you see at trade shows, only in this case, it

550
00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:56,320
Speaker 1: was created by the offices quote Office of Medical Services

551
00:27:56,800 --> 00:27:59,320
Speaker 1: to warn parents of officers about the dangers of drug

552
00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:02,880
Speaker 1: abuse and how to spot trouble in your kids. Part

553
00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:05,000
Speaker 1: of this booth was a bag of actual weed, so

554
00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:07,639
Speaker 1: parents could pick it up, hold it, smell it, get

555
00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:09,719
Speaker 1: used to what it looks like. But when the agency

556
00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:12,520
Speaker 1: wanted to take the booth to an AMA medical conference,

557
00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:15,920
Speaker 1: somewhat blanket in the legal department pointed out a problem.

558
00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:18,520
Speaker 1: They'd be crossing state lines with a controlled substance.

559
00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:21,040
Speaker 2: Uh all right, I like that.

560
00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:23,080
Speaker 1: Not okay even for the CIA.

561
00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:27,119
Speaker 2: Yep, I like that. You call them square. So how

562
00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:30,600
Speaker 2: do you think they solved this problem in getting it

563
00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:31,520
Speaker 2: over the state lines?

564
00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:34,040
Speaker 1: Yeah? Like, well, they just decide we can't do we

565
00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:36,120
Speaker 1: can't take weed across state lines, but we do want

566
00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:38,680
Speaker 1: to teach the parents of our officers around America how

567
00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:39,240
Speaker 1: to spot weed.

568
00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:41,200
Speaker 2: So what do you so? They had to go in undercover,

569
00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:43,040
Speaker 2: go to a high school. This is actually how twenty

570
00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:46,360
Speaker 2: one Jump Street got. This is the origin story. This

571
00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:48,320
Speaker 2: is the origin story of twenty one Jump Street. They

572
00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:50,360
Speaker 2: were like, all right, leave the weed here, let's cross

573
00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:52,680
Speaker 2: state lines. We'll buy more weed there from a high

574
00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:57,080
Speaker 2: school kid. I don't know. That is my best guess.

575
00:28:57,160 --> 00:28:59,360
Speaker 1: I mean, that's actually I think that's better than what

576
00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:04,840
Speaker 1: they did was they created fake weed. Oh okay, they

577
00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:08,760
Speaker 1: called it pseudo marijuana. But this Erzat's Mary Jane cooked

578
00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:11,640
Speaker 1: up by the agency scientists was so realistic even when burned,

579
00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:14,360
Speaker 1: that it fooled people. The booth won first prize at

580
00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:16,720
Speaker 1: the conference, which is now maybe my favorite fact about

581
00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:17,880
Speaker 1: the CIA.

582
00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:21,719
Speaker 2: The fact that it's a competition, that it's like a

583
00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:25,800
Speaker 2: science fair. Yeah, you did not see that coming. I

584
00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:27,920
Speaker 2: definitely did not know. You were about to say they

585
00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:31,080
Speaker 2: won first prize at the convention.

586
00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:36,880
Speaker 1: Tax dollars hard at work. Incredible, The CIA weed booth

587
00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:39,960
Speaker 1: won first prize at the American Medical Association conference. Like

588
00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:41,120
Speaker 1: that must have been so proud.

589
00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:43,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, they completely forgot what they were trying to teach.

590
00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:45,600
Speaker 2: All they could focus on was how to win again

591
00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:47,520
Speaker 2: next year and build a dynasty.

592
00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:51,560
Speaker 1: One doctor's wife, who worked as a high school bus

593
00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:53,880
Speaker 1: monitor near San Francisco, had this to say to the

594
00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:57,200
Speaker 1: Saint Louis Post Dispatch. Upon observing the booth light up

595
00:29:57,280 --> 00:30:00,040
Speaker 1: the fake weed. She said, quote, that smells just like

596
00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:05,120
Speaker 1: the back of my bus when she goes back there

597
00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:07,200
Speaker 1: when she drops the kids off.

598
00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:09,720
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, she drops them off, she goes to the

599
00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:13,320
Speaker 2: back of the bus. Cool mom opens the window a

600
00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:16,440
Speaker 2: little bit. What's on a little Arrowsmith? I think we

601
00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:17,640
Speaker 2: all know what I'm talking about.

602
00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:19,720
Speaker 1: Isn't that called hot boxing? Is that what the kids say?

603
00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:22,120
Speaker 2: Uh? Hot box? It was a hot boxing got a

604
00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:22,880
Speaker 2: school bus.

605
00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:27,520
Speaker 1: So I guess in closing, what's important to remember here

606
00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:29,880
Speaker 1: is that the best maker of fake drugs in America

607
00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:30,840
Speaker 1: is the CIA.

608
00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:31,560
Speaker 2: That's right.

609
00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:34,440
Speaker 1: That's according to Rory Scobel. Please direct well all inquiries

610
00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:35,560
Speaker 1: and investigations to him.

611
00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:38,520
Speaker 2: That's according to the judges, who I can't believe that

612
00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:40,680
Speaker 2: wasn't some sort of an undercover. As soon as the

613
00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:43,440
Speaker 2: judges were like, this is just like real weed. How

614
00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:45,160
Speaker 2: are they not? Like, how do you know that we

615
00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:48,360
Speaker 2: got you? And the judges were all arrested.

616
00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:50,680
Speaker 1: Everything is an elaborate sting that.

617
00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:52,400
Speaker 2: Put them in a tough position. They're like, we should

618
00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:55,440
Speaker 2: technically arrest these judges, but also we do want first place.

619
00:30:56,360 --> 00:30:57,520
Speaker 2: We got to just take the hit.

620
00:30:57,680 --> 00:31:03,200
Speaker 1: We need the ribbon. Yeah, incredible little slice of history there,

621
00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:05,760
Speaker 1: thanks to mock rock advice. I love that so much.

622
00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:07,440
Speaker 1: There's even by the way, and I'll send it to you.

623
00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:10,160
Speaker 1: There's like an illustration of like they did a diagram

624
00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:12,240
Speaker 1: of the booth. Some guy in like the science partment

625
00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:16,800
Speaker 1: at the Central Intelligence Agency sketched out the weed booth. Yeah,

626
00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:18,680
Speaker 1: and it was to classified a few years ago, so

627
00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:25,200
Speaker 1: that means it was classified for several decades. Nice, don't

628
00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:36,080
Speaker 1: let us get out, guys. So special twist this week, Rory,

629
00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:38,760
Speaker 1: I created our final game. And I'm gonna tell you

630
00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:44,320
Speaker 1: are most experienced drug user on this staff. You, Rory Scobel,

631
00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:48,200
Speaker 1: frequent user of snuff and mushrooms.

632
00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:50,560
Speaker 2: Do I present as a drug user?

633
00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:55,320
Speaker 1: You just live in Colorado so my association.

634
00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:57,960
Speaker 2: Look, I have done mushrooms and pot, but that's really

635
00:31:58,120 --> 00:32:00,760
Speaker 2: extent of it, and then pills, but are really counting

636
00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:01,239
Speaker 2: at THEE.

637
00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:06,280
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna ask you, and Lane is also gonna play.

638
00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:10,800
Speaker 1: So you are competings Lane in this and so Lane

639
00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:15,200
Speaker 1: also a massive consumer of narcotics. I've just made that up.

640
00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:17,680
Speaker 3: I have no idea to say that. My mom will listen.

641
00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:21,240
Speaker 2: I believe whatever the media tells me. I was kidding

642
00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:22,960
Speaker 2: Blane's mom. I'm completely joking.

643
00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:25,840
Speaker 1: Rory's mom also wife, family members of both of you.

644
00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:28,520
Speaker 2: I swear I'm clean.

645
00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:37,280
Speaker 1: It's ewan we should be worried about. Okay, So our

646
00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:40,600
Speaker 1: game today is street slang for drugs. I'm gonna read you, guys,

647
00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:43,640
Speaker 1: six slang terms for popular drugs, and you have to

648
00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:44,720
Speaker 1: tell me which one is fake.

649
00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:46,680
Speaker 2: I hope I get all these right.

650
00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:50,840
Speaker 1: So number one adderall, Okay, I'll read all six, and

651
00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:55,120
Speaker 1: then you tell me which one is fake. Beans, co pilots,

652
00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:59,960
Speaker 1: truck drivers, zings, peppers, study.

653
00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:02,160
Speaker 2: Buddies, beans, I'm gonna go beans.

654
00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:03,120
Speaker 1: Are you going beans?

655
00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:04,840
Speaker 2: That's it. We're supposed to pick the fake one.

656
00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:05,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, the fake one.

657
00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:08,080
Speaker 2: Right, I'm gonna saying you're both wrong.

658
00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:08,760
Speaker 1: It's peppers.

659
00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:11,440
Speaker 2: Okay, you don't have to yell at us.

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Speaker 1: This is surprisingly hard because the name nicknames for drugs

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Speaker 1: are ridiculous.

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Speaker 2: Josh, you might have just turned it into slang for addro.

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Speaker 2: Someone heard this, They're like, I'm calling them peppers from

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Speaker 2: now on.

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Speaker 1: It's gonna be my my proudest moment. I'll be walking

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Speaker 1: down the street someday I'll hear.

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Speaker 2: Peppers.

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Speaker 1: Okay. Number two, Cocaine, dust flake, Avalanche, toot, snow white, Bernice.

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Speaker 3: Did you make up the fake ones?

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Speaker 1: I did make up the fake ones.

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Speaker 2: I mean, Bernice, I'm gonna say toot. I'm gonna go.

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Speaker 2: It's I think it's my second guess is Avalanche. I'm

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Speaker 2: gonna go Bernice.

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Speaker 1: Lane, You're going to I'm going to Avalanche. Rory go

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Speaker 1: with your second.

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Speaker 2: Half a point half a point, all.

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Speaker 1: Right, we'll give you half a point to that you

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Speaker 1: were half right. Okay. Number three, meth Chrissy, Christy go shards,

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Speaker 1: Tina twin.

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Speaker 3: Defensive. I'm gonna go Christy.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna go twink. Rory another points one point five

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Speaker 2: to zero.

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Speaker 3: I'm too pure, it's.

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Speaker 1: Too let's just proof that Lane does not use any

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Speaker 1: drugs her. Your mom is gonna be so happy vindicated

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Speaker 1: by Okay, number three, this is Rory is gonna have

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Speaker 1: an unfair advantage here. Bath salts, yep yep okay, bath salts,

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Speaker 1: wicked x Ivory missed, drone Bloom Sorry, Vanilla.

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Speaker 2: Sky, I mean, I mean just sounds. I'm gonna go.

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Speaker 2: I think that's real.

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Speaker 3: That's that seems like a basalt varietal. I'm gonna go.

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Speaker 1: Vanilla's guy the correct answers, I remissed.

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Speaker 2: Oh I thought I've remissed for sure was real?

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Speaker 1: Is real?

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Speaker 3: Oh my god?

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Speaker 2: Me is real? That's insane. Just here to get some mew.

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Speaker 1: Okay, And lastly, ketamine, cat valium, honey oil, k fuzz

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Speaker 1: kit cat purple, super acid.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna go. Is it my turn to guest? First?

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Speaker 2: Sure cat valium blame uh purple, damn it.

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Speaker 1: I thought I thought when I saw it super I

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Speaker 1: mean super acid is I mean both awesome and ridiculous.

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Speaker 2: I mean, super acid is so fun because it's meant

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Speaker 2: to be undercut for But it's just naming another drug.

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Speaker 2: Yeah right, Like, Hey, you got any cocaine? Like, what

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Speaker 2: do you mean ketamine? I mean ketamine, but I call

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Speaker 2: it I call it different cocaine.

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Speaker 1: Call it super cocaine.

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Speaker 2: Do you have any super coke? Lane?

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Speaker 1: I think you did your mom proud by going oh

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Speaker 1: for five coy one and a half, your mom, I.

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Speaker 2: Mean, I'm honestly one point five. I'm pretty I'm pretty

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Speaker 2: proud of that. You did a great job. Well, congrats

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Speaker 2: to Rory. Take that, Lane.

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Speaker 1: I feel like, if there's a QUIZZI you want to

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Speaker 1: not be good at it, that's one, yeah, bad.

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Speaker 2: One, unless you're an undercover cop, which.

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Speaker 3: I'm not, or like an undercover drug dealers.

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Speaker 2: Which I'm not. Yeah, I exist on both sides.

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