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Speaker 1: Glenn Rhodes with us. We'll get to your calls as well. Glenn,

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Speaker 1: somebody's got to get to Jeff Bezos from Amazon, because

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Speaker 1: when the power goes out, Amazon's out of business. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's right, George. And there are some people that are

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Speaker 1: taking the lead on it, for example, color of State

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Speaker 1: University and I'm on one of their advisory committees for

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Speaker 1: their communications department. But believe it or not, there are

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Speaker 1: people like or i should say communities like for example, Madison, Wisconsin, Boulder, Colorado, Berkeley.

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Speaker 1: Some of the more progressive places that just want to

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Speaker 1: get off the grid. They they they are doing it

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Speaker 1: for climate change reasons, but believe it or not, there

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Speaker 1: is a parallel to what we're doing too, because one

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Speaker 1: of the messages that we've found on early on was

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Speaker 1: that why not killed two birds with one stone. In

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Speaker 1: other words, as we get off the grid, let's make

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Speaker 1: sure that the resilient, because right now we don't know.

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Speaker 1: I mean, we know that power solar power planet panels

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Speaker 1: are pretty resilient. We sent them into outer space obviously

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Speaker 1: on the Viking Pioneer path finders and other things, but

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Speaker 1: we don't know how the control systems will last. And

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Speaker 1: George Baker, who's on the MP staff, has told me, Glenn,

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Speaker 1: remember that people when you go out and talk, they're

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Speaker 1: gonna say, hey, I want to get off the grid.

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Speaker 1: I want to just go solar. And it's not that simple, George.

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Speaker 1: We have got to design the parameters for resiliency before

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Speaker 1: they leave of the cat, before they leave the drawing board.

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Speaker 1: We can't do it after the fact. And as an architect,

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Speaker 1: you know, one of the things I've been always taught

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Speaker 1: was you've got to have the design parameters in order

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Speaker 1: to uh get a statement of work and then build

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Speaker 1: your product right. Well, we don't want to make the

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Speaker 1: same mistakes again. For example, Puerto Rico, we're not in

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Speaker 1: our opportunity to recreate that. We need to recreate the

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Speaker 1: power grid with an all hazards approach. We don't want

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Speaker 1: to put in toothpicks anymore. We want to have it

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Speaker 1: resilient so it's able to withstand hurricanes, multiple hurricanes, any

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Speaker 1: mp A solar and we have got to quit looking

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Speaker 1: at the glitzy, smart, sexy things that come down the

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Speaker 1: pike that people say, hey, we've got a new people

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Speaker 1: mover that can you know, shoot a person from you know,

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Speaker 1: let's say shy in Wyoming to color the springs. And

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Speaker 1: I say, wait, no, the Department of Regulatory Agencies here

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Speaker 1: in Colorado, I challenge them to say, you're not putting

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Speaker 1: any thing in our state unless you can prove that

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Speaker 1: they can be resilient to all hazards, cyber uh, e MP,

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Speaker 1: radio frequency weapons. And we've got us put a design

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Speaker 1: parameter in there for all hazards. And c s U

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Speaker 1: is is, believe it or not, c SU is trying

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Speaker 1: to get off the grid. They are now working with

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Speaker 1: a proposal for a three fifty million dollar project to

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Speaker 1: completely take the would be the first university in the

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Speaker 1: world that's been completely off the grid. So my my theory,

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Speaker 1: or I should say my suggestion is that we get

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Speaker 1: a Bezos or or maybe a Bill Gates or Elon

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Speaker 1: Musk to say, hey, we're gonna endow uh CSU with

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Speaker 1: a massive fund to say we're going to keep the

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Speaker 1: message alive and going. We have to have resiliency and

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Speaker 1: renewable energies side by side, partnering for resilient or you

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Speaker 1: would think every major power company in the country would

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Speaker 1: kick in to do this. I to even pay a

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Speaker 1: little bit more on my electrical bill, Glenn as a

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Speaker 1: as A as a Surtax to help get this done. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's for whatever reason. I I just don't get it.

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Speaker 1: I mean, these people have families like everybody else. And

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Speaker 1: I had a power company executive come up to me

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Speaker 1: and say, hey, Glenn, um, all the power transformers were

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Speaker 1: are completely resilient. We've done the modeling. And I said, no,

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Speaker 1: you haven't. You show me where you've done the modeling

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Speaker 1: that that says these are resilient, and even if we

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Speaker 1: gave them the benefit of the doubt to say, okay,

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Speaker 1: let's say your power transformers do survive. George, we have

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Speaker 1: millions and millions of skater devices. You know what those are,

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Speaker 1: the supervisory data control acquisition devices that keep our infrastructure going.

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Speaker 1: And those things are highly susceptible to cyber and e

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Speaker 1: MP pulses. And as we get lower and lower voltages

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Speaker 1: on these control devices, they're more and more susceptible to

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Speaker 1: destruction from any MP or radio frequency weapon. We've got

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Speaker 1: to wake up. We've got to wake up and think

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Speaker 1: about the future. Let's design parameters in there that says

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Speaker 1: you're not putting stuff in there. You're not putting fancy

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Speaker 1: stuff in my state unless you can show and prove

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Speaker 1: to me, especially critical life sustaining infrastructures, that it's going

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Speaker 1: to power through. I don't I could give a hoot

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Speaker 1: about designing a new mouse. I'm talking about stuff that

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Speaker 1: keeps us alive. We have got to introduce design parameters

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Speaker 1: for what I call an extreme catastrophic electromagnetic event that's

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Speaker 1: an e C, and that missing parameter will help future

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Speaker 1: generations to survive. Anybody who has a child should want

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Speaker 1: this done for the protection and the safety of their kid. Absolutely,

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