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Speaker 3: Yes, the Gray Kerry Rhoads is back. I am heres.

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Speaker 2: I mean I see you as I walk in doing

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Speaker 2: a show prior to my show. I leave here with

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Speaker 2: you coming to do a show after my show. And

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Speaker 2: this is the second time we're doing the show together. Yes,

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Speaker 2: this in the last month. So you've been working pretty

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Speaker 2: much NonStop, Kerry.

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Speaker 3: Pretty NonStop. But I ask for it. I think when

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Speaker 3: you ask for something and it's you know, given to you,

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Speaker 3: the opportunity arises, you take that by the horns and

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Speaker 3: you run with it.

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Speaker 2: So that's where I am for you. You know, I

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Speaker 2: worked seven days a week, nine jobs. I would do

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Speaker 2: radio seven days a week, television, Saturday and Sundays. People

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Speaker 2: are like, why do you do all of that work?

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Speaker 2: And my answer was simple, because I can. I mean,

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Speaker 2: if they're asking me to work, I am going to

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Speaker 2: be there.

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Speaker 3: Well, this is a great day. We got a lot

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Speaker 3: of things going on.

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Speaker 2: The good news, the really good news is all NFL

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Speaker 2: training camps are up and running. We are officially under

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Speaker 2: way to get started for this twenty twenty three season.

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Speaker 2: I want to start with one of the big stories

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Speaker 2: of the week, and that was Sean Payton taking a

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Speaker 2: shot at Nathaniel Hackett and the coaching staff of the

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Speaker 2: Denver Bronco. I'll give you my perspective carry obviously I

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Speaker 2: want to hear you as well. When I initially heard

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Speaker 2: Sean Payton and I had a chance to meet Sean

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Speaker 2: Payton during the year he was suspended from the NFL.

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Speaker 2: I was covering the Zerk Golf Classic down in New

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Speaker 2: Orleans and he came by. He impressed me as a

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Speaker 2: very personable, very engaging guy. It was a weird year

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Speaker 2: because you know, or It took the fall for the

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Speaker 2: bounty gate and got suspended for the year, but he

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Speaker 2: seemed to be okay with that. Knowing he was going

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Speaker 2: to be back in the fold soon. But when I

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Speaker 2: heard this statement before I heard anything else, I laughed

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Speaker 2: because all I'm thinking is this. So I'm Sean Payton.

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Speaker 2: I'm taking over a team that was five and twelve

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Speaker 2: with the addition of Russell Wilson, one of the best

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Speaker 2: quarterbacks in the NFL. And to me, the intent that

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Speaker 2: Sean Payton meant was your record a year ago had

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Speaker 2: nothing to do with the talent on this team. You

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Speaker 2: guys are all really good football players. It was the

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Speaker 2: coaching staff that screws this up. And I don't even

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Speaker 2: care about the apology and everything else. The intent of

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Speaker 2: what Sean Payton did, because you know, once you go

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Speaker 2: over the top, you're gonna you're get to backtrack a

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Speaker 2: little bit.

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Speaker 3: But that was not the intent here.

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Speaker 2: The intent was to get the message across to his

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Speaker 2: team as he tries to get into that locker room,

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Speaker 2: get into the heads that we are going to have

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Speaker 2: a winning season. We're not going to have a repeat

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Speaker 2: of five and twelve. We like to flip that and

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Speaker 2: go twelve and five. But the first thing I've got

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Speaker 2: to convey to this team is I look at you

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Speaker 2: as winners and the fact that you were losers a

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Speaker 2: year ago had nothing to do with you. It had

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Speaker 2: everything to do with him and his coaching staff right now.

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Speaker 3: It was over the top.

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Speaker 2: It was outrageous, But at least that was my initial

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Speaker 2: thought as soon as I saw that, saying, wow, he

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Speaker 2: went all in to try to erase any doubt on

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Speaker 2: this roster that they're not capable of having not just

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Speaker 2: a winning season, but being a playoff team.

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Speaker 3: I disliked it all the way through and through. If

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Speaker 3: that's true what you're saying, say that behind closed doors,

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Speaker 3: tell your team that you can convince them all you

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Speaker 3: want in that locker room that they're better than what

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Speaker 3: they show last year. It was the coach's fault. Whatever

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Speaker 3: it is, you don't air it. You don't air that

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Speaker 3: out to the public. Number One, you're doing a disservice

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Speaker 3: say that. You're also doing disservice to another man's livelihood

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Speaker 3: saying that this guy was such a terrible coach and

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Speaker 3: didn't know what he's doing. Whatever. The correct verbage of

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Speaker 3: that situation was. If you don't like it and you

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Speaker 3: really want to say it, you can tell him that

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Speaker 3: man the man or call him whatever. The situation. I

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Speaker 3: really did not like it. But then also involve the

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Speaker 3: Jets in the situation, like saying, the Jets are the

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Speaker 3: off season winners and they haven't done anything, and they're

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Speaker 3: trying to win the off season. So what it's like,

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Speaker 3: it's almost like he's trying to deflect from the job

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Speaker 3: that he has at hand. The job he has at hand.

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Speaker 3: We know that Demra is a talented team. That's not

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Speaker 3: a secret. We knew that.

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Speaker 2: We knew that they had a chance with Russell coming

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Speaker 2: in last year to be a really good football team.

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Speaker 2: A lot of people said that it's not about that.

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Speaker 3: We know that speak on your team, speak on the

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Speaker 3: situation you have now and then and you move on.

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Speaker 3: Don't throw under people on the bus along the way.

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Speaker 3: That was my whole thing with.

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Speaker 2: It, all, Right, do you think that then that puts

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Speaker 2: a target on his back?

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Speaker 3: Yes, it does.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So I mean again, Sean Payton isn't new to

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Speaker 2: this business, right. However, in the interim between the time

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Speaker 2: he did serve as a commentator. Yeah, yeah, so maybe

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Speaker 2: a little saying wow, a little residual effect from his

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Speaker 2: year is a commentator where he forgot the fact that

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Speaker 2: he's no longer a commentator, where you can call it

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Speaker 2: anybody if you so choose, that you're now actual head

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Speaker 2: coach in the NFL. Brandon, you did say we had

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Speaker 2: the apology, all right, So Sam, can we can we

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Speaker 2: hear the apology?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 5: Listen, I had one of those moments where I still

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Speaker 5: had my fox hat on and not my coaching hat on.

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Speaker 5: And you know, I said this to the team in

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Speaker 5: the meeting yesterday. We've had a great off he'son relative

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Speaker 5: to that, you know, and I've been preaching that message

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Speaker 5: and here I am the veteran, you know, stepping in it.

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Speaker 5: And uh, it was it was a learning experience for me.

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Speaker 5: It was a mistake. Obviously I needed a little bit

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Speaker 5: more filter. You know, there's a pound of flesh for

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Speaker 5: And after a while, you know, we're past that season

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Speaker 5: last year, and and you know, I said what I said,

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Speaker 5: and obviously I needed a little bit more restraint, and

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Speaker 5: I regret that that Being said, what I told the

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Speaker 5: team is, you know, if it can happen and I

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Speaker 5: think I'm pretty good relative to working with the media

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Speaker 5: and pretty savvy. And I just had one of those

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Speaker 4: So it is what it.

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Speaker 3: Is, all right.

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Speaker 2: So there he addressed the Fox hat he was wearing.

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Speaker 2: Let's hear from Jets Goo's Robert Sala.

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Speaker 6: Well, I'm not going to acknowledge Sean on that is

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Speaker 6: he had. You know, he's been in the league while

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Speaker 6: he can say what other the hell he wants. But

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Speaker 6: but as far as you know what we have going

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Speaker 6: you ain't got no haters, you ain't popping so hate away.

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Speaker 6: Obviously we're doing something right if you got to talk

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Speaker 6: and I'm good with it. You know, the guys in

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Speaker 6: and really excited about what's going on. I think Hackett's

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Speaker 6: doing a phenomenal job here. The coaching staff is doing

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Speaker 6: a phenomenal job, and we're focused on us.

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Speaker 4: I get it.

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Speaker 6: There's a lot of external noise. There's a lot of

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Speaker 6: people who are hating on us. There's a lot of

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Speaker 6: people looking for us to fail. There's a lot of

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Speaker 6: crows pecinet or neck. But all you can do is

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Speaker 6: off and suffocate.

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Speaker 4: From the inability to breathe.

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Speaker 6: It's a whole nother analogy I'll get into later, but

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Speaker 6: really really excited about the group we have, the coaching

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Speaker 6: on us and making sure that we're prepared every single

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Speaker 6: day to do the best we can and learn from

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Speaker 6: our past and growth every moment that we have.

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Speaker 2: All Right, So, Kerry, what's going on in the Broncos

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Speaker 2: locker room right now?

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Speaker 3: With all this noise right now? Is this a rallying.

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Speaker 2: Point for this Broncos team where your coach is basically

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Speaker 2: almost proclaimed it's us against the world. I think the

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Speaker 3: Room well one hundred percent rallying cry. It's one of

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Speaker 3: those situations where I was in the locker room with

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Speaker 3: the guy that was very outspoken and the guy that

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Speaker 3: you know, war's emotions on the sleeve and would say

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Speaker 3: certain things to stir up situations in the media. A

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Speaker 3: guy named Rex Ryan. So, I understand that. I think

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Speaker 3: you do take the shape of your coach, especially when

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Speaker 3: you respect them and you have this fondness for them

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Speaker 3: when they first come in, because when you first up

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Speaker 3: in that door, you want the guys to, you know,

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Speaker 3: take up after the head coach. Your head coach should

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Speaker 3: be the guy in front of what's to come. And

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Speaker 3: that's a similar situation. I think that's going on in

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Speaker 3: Denver here. So I would say they're rallying, I'm saying.

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Speaker 3: I would say that they're getting behind him and getting

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Speaker 3: ready to go out and prove the world that they belong.

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Speaker 3: And last year as a fluke, I do believe that,

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Speaker 3: and I do believe they're going to be better this

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Speaker 3: year as well. Go ahead, I just.

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Speaker 2: Want to interject one thing here, Karri. I'm sorry to interrupt.

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Speaker 2: I'm just I'm trying to get ahead into the head again.

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Speaker 2: As Sean Payton, right, I mean, he could talk about

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Speaker 2: double lot and his fox had and everything else.

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Speaker 3: But he said it for a reason. Yes.

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Speaker 2: Could it be that he felt like going into that

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Speaker 2: locker room joining this team, that this team needed desperately

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Speaker 2: A jolt, like a big time jolt to get them

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Speaker 2: at least mentally where he wants this team to be.

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Speaker 3: Oh, there could definitely be some psychology behind what he did,

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Speaker 3: and that's the thing we don't know, right we don't

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Speaker 3: know what's been said, what's going on behind closed doors

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Speaker 3: and how they've been approaching the start of the season

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Speaker 3: so far, So we don't know in theory what you're saying.

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Speaker 3: It could be one hundred percent correct, and the psychology

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Speaker 3: of a person like Sean Payton, who's hands down a

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Speaker 3: really good coach, we know that. We know you can

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Speaker 3: get the job done. To be able to poke and

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Speaker 3: prod and get into the core, into the hearts of

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Speaker 3: the guys that are you're leading, it takes certain things

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Speaker 3: and it definitely could be one of them. Well, there's

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Speaker 3: no out.

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Speaker 3: Well, obviously in the past he was not a great leader.

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Speaker 2: obviously we're talking quarterbacks under six feet tall. But from

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Speaker 2: a personality standpoint, whatever work between Sean Payton and Drew Brees,

438
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Speaker 2: will that work with Russell Wilson.

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Speaker 3: A good question. I think there is some similarities. It

440
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Speaker 3: seems like they both have the raw, fake passion part

441
00:22:03,560 --> 00:22:06,399
Speaker 3: of their games that are similar. Right. You see a

442
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Speaker 3: lot of times before the games with the Saints, Drew

443
00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:10,800
Speaker 3: Brees would be the guy kind of pumping the guys up,

444
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Speaker 3: getting them ready to go. That I call it raw raw,

445
00:22:14,080 --> 00:22:16,280
Speaker 3: the raw raw type of captain. He had a lot

446
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Speaker 3: of that. You can see some of the stuff similar

447
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Speaker 3: to Russell Wilson when he was in Seattle. He was

448
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Speaker 3: that guy that was kind of raw raw in front

449
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Speaker 3: of it, in front of the media. It looked like

450
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Speaker 3: he was a guy that had kind of control of

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Speaker 3: that team, right, It seemed that way. So I would

452
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Speaker 3: say they're similar in that. I would say they're similar

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Speaker 3: probably in their having to prove something every day. They're shorter,

454
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Speaker 3: they're not your prototypical guys, so you have that kind

455
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Speaker 3: of similarity as well. So he could he could ultimately

456
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Speaker 3: fit in that same box. But he's gonna have to perform.

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Speaker 3: All these things are true about Drew Brees, but he

458
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Speaker 3: performed on Sunday. You knew he was gonna be prepared,

459
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Speaker 3: super prepared. He would get them into the right play

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Speaker 3: all the time. It was what you said. It was

461
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Speaker 3: a direct correlation from head coach. It's a quarterback, and

462
00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:08,480
Speaker 3: there was no separation. You could tell like those guys

463
00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:10,960
Speaker 3: were in sync. And if they can get on that path,

464
00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:14,920
Speaker 3: then Peyton he's definitely gonna do what Russell can do,

465
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Speaker 3: then maybe we can see a resurgence. That's kind of

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Speaker 3: what I say.

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Speaker 2: Well, with very few exceptions, every coach in the Pro

468
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Speaker 2: Football Hall of Fame is there because he had the

469
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Speaker 2: right quarterback. Few exceptions. Joe Gibbs might be the one exception.

470
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Speaker 2: He went and won three Super Bowls of three different quarterbacks.

471
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Speaker 2: But everybody else you can directly connect their success to

472
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Speaker 2: the right connection with a certain quarterback. All right, So

473
00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:45,080
Speaker 2: the Sean Payton Russell Wilson marriage to me is the

474
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Speaker 2: second most intriguing coach quarterback.

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Speaker 3: Well, what's first?

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Speaker 2: You're gonna fight out on the other side. But first, oh,

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Speaker 2: what is trending right now?

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Speaker 3: Back for a return engagement. Because I don't know.

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Speaker 2: This man wears many hats, he's he has diversified as

486
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Speaker 2: much as anyone here in the Fox Sports radio family.

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Speaker 3: What about a beefin Well, you know they.

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Speaker 9: Say versatility is employability. At least that's the school of

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Speaker 9: thought that I prescribe to you. I know Kerrie does

490
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Speaker 9: that as well, wears many hats over here. That's sort

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Speaker 9: of how I fe. Now that's a controversial issue because

492
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Speaker 9: some could say we'll get really good at one thing,

493
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Speaker 9: but that's not me. So everybody has a different opinion on.

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Speaker 2: This changed because you know, when I got in the business,

495
00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:45,320
Speaker 2: still much like my father, my dad worked at twenty

496
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Speaker 2: century Fox Studios for thirty two years. It was still

497
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Speaker 2: that way, right, You sort of nestled into one job,

498
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Speaker 2: you did it for thirty plus years, and.

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Speaker 3: Then you retire.

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Speaker 2: I mean, that's how it sort of worked back in

501
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Speaker 2: the day, even when I broke into this business. You know,

502
00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:01,960
Speaker 2: guys have been around for one hundred years and everything else,

503
00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:04,119
Speaker 2: and yeah, it's a very different world.

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Speaker 3: You better diversify, you definitely have to.

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Speaker 9: And even after all these years, Steve, that you've been

506
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Speaker 9: in the business, you look the same thirty years ago

507
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Speaker 9: as you do right now.

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Speaker 3: So it hasn't aged you for us, doesn't it. It's unbelieva.

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Speaker 2: You know when I when I closed the lid of

510
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Speaker 2: the coffin every night, Steve Dracula, it's very preserved and well,

511
00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:27,520
Speaker 2: vampires don't age, so and you know, I've made this

512
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Speaker 2: clear and I'm not making this My mother was actually.

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Speaker 3: Born in Transylvania. That is a fact. Actually, a little vampire.

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Speaker 2: You should not tell everybody your identity right now though,

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Speaker 2: that's that's that's kind of sacred, it is. I But yeah,

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Speaker 2: the coffin is good. Well, it serves me well.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, it's a good place to hang out and watch

518
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Speaker 9: football games, by the way, speaking of the NFL, and

519
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Speaker 9: well played, although the Wi Fi sucks.

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Speaker 3: In there, it's really awful.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, sales closed the Lord really bad.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I guess that's a tough thing to try to

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Speaker 9: work around. I guess you would have to live without

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Speaker 9: your cell phone imposed.

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Speaker 3: To be sleeping. Resting though at that time I am.

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Speaker 2: I'm a good sleeper, religious sleeper.

527
00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:11,959
Speaker 3: Yeah, no doubt about it.

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Speaker 9: And you know what, nobody slept on Frank Gore over

529
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Speaker 9: the course of his NFL career, and now that it

530
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Speaker 9: seems to be over, he courting reports is going to

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Speaker 9: be getting a job with the forty nine ers front

532
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Speaker 9: office as a football advisor. Free agent of all carrier

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Speaker 9: Ezekiel Elliott's still looking for work. He's about twenty eight

534
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Speaker 9: years old. Met with Patriots ownership. They mingled, and the

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Speaker 9: reasoning behind that was ESPN is reporting that passed that

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Speaker 9: coach Bill Belichick actually talked directly to Cowboys executive vice

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Speaker 9: president Stephen Jones. They had a couple of words exchanged about, Hey,

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Speaker 9: what do you think about Elliott? He was with you

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Speaker 9: in Dallas. Do you think he might be somebody for us?

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Speaker 9: No deal, though, has been done between the Pats and Elliott.

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Speaker 9: Cowboys owner Jerry Jones has never met a camera that

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Speaker 9: he's never wanted to be in front of, said the

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Speaker 9: bruised Joe, the Trayvon Diggs suffered might keep him out

544
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Speaker 9: of training camp until the team picks up and moves

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Speaker 9: it's training camp schedule from Oxnard, California, back to Dallas.

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Speaker 9: Veteran defensive back Eli Apple is going to be signing,

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Speaker 9: according to NFL Network, a one year deal with the Dolphins.

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00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:17,920
Speaker 9: That's to make way for a little bit of a

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Speaker 9: lack of depth in the secondary because Jalen Ramsey won't

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Speaker 9: be ready until what they're saying is December. Chiefs tight

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00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:28,720
Speaker 9: end Travis Kelce got into a pushing and shoving match

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Speaker 9: today with some of his teammates at practice, and Kelsey

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Speaker 9: regretted it later writing on social media. Quote, got to

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Speaker 9: be a better teammate, got to be a better leader

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Speaker 9: playing in simple close quote. And lastly, guys, just two

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Speaker 9: notes from Major League Baseball. The Angels are the first

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Speaker 9: to score. What a game no offense to show for.

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Speaker 9: Here it's one nothing Angels in Toronto against the Blue

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Speaker 9: Jayson the top of the fifth, and it's a guy

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Speaker 9: getting hit by a pitch that ultimately.

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Speaker 3: Scores the only run in this game.

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Speaker 9: But combined five hits toront I know has been one

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Speaker 9: hit show Yo Tani one for one at the dish.

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Speaker 9: He has walked once and the other game. The only

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Speaker 9: other game that's going on in the biggs right now

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Speaker 9: is one that's on FS one top of the second

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Speaker 9: in Miami, Tigers and Marlins are scoreless combined.

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Speaker 3: Two hits back to two.

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Speaker 9: Guys who are a much better hit when it comes

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Speaker 9: to their sports radio lexicon and knowledge, Carrie Rhodes and

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Speaker 9: Steve Hartman.

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Speaker 2: Another brilliant segue. Absolutely brilliant. Thank you very much, great

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Speaker 2: Ryan Finley. Right there by the way, we're company you

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Speaker 2: live from the tai iraq dot com studios. A little

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Speaker 2: detour before I tell you the most intriguing coach quarterback

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Speaker 2: story coming up in this twenty twenty three season. He

577
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Speaker 2: mentioned Frank Gore, who has one of my favorite stats

578
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Speaker 2: in pro football history.

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Speaker 3: Frank Gore played sixteen.

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Speaker 2: Years in the NFL as a running back and finished

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Speaker 2: his career with exactly sixteen thousand yards.

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Speaker 3: Wow.

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Speaker 2: Not sixteen thousand and one, not fifteen thousand, nine ninety nine,

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Speaker 2: sixteen years, exactly sixteen thousand yards. You don't have to

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Speaker 2: be a mathematical genius to do figure that one out here,

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Speaker 2: how about Wow? That being said, I'm just curious from

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Speaker 2: your standpoint, Carrie, As you know, the Pro Football Hall

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Speaker 2: of Fame, we've got the ceremonies coming up for the

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Speaker 2: class of twenty twenty three. They announced some cutdown in

590
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Speaker 2: the seniors. You know this is an annual event, and

591
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Speaker 2: try to decipher which guys are worthy of that gold jacket.

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Speaker 2: When you look at a guy like Frank Gore, who

593
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Speaker 2: never once was named First team All Pro now once

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Speaker 2: in his entire career, how do you feel, as someone

595
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Speaker 2: that played in the NFL about a compiler versus someone

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Speaker 2: that may have been dominant for a short period of

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Speaker 2: time in terms of their credibility as a Hall of

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Speaker 2: Fame candidate. Great question, Steve. It's a hard question too,

599
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Speaker 2: because obviously what you're kind of referencing to is Barry Sanders, right,

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Speaker 2: undeniably Hall of Famer. Career was short by standards of

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Speaker 2: what that usually looks like.

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Speaker 3: But you look at that, that's he's a Hall of Famer.

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Speaker 3: Frank Gore is one of those cases. I won't be

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Speaker 3: mad either way. I don't think he's a Hall of Famer,

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Speaker 3: But durability counts as well, and being able to show

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Speaker 3: up and do the deal and a thousand yards of

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Speaker 3: season is not something to laugh at either, It's it's

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Speaker 3: pretty remarkable. I don't know, I got a feeling he

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Speaker 3: may get in, not on his first try obviously, but

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Speaker 3: later on. But more of the I'm more of the well.

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Speaker 2: We had Terrell Davis, Yes we really only had four

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Speaker 2: healthy seasons, but he was a league MVP, he was

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Speaker 2: a Super Bowl MVP, was three times first team All NFL.

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Speaker 2: He dominated during that run. It took years, but eventually

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Speaker 2: he did get into the Hall of Fame.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I would take to I would take roll

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Speaker 3: Davis before Frank Gore as well, though, Yeah, I mean,

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Speaker 3: like you said, the accolades, the eye test. The eye

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Speaker 3: test with Frank Gore was solid back always. There was

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Speaker 3: nothing extraordinary about Frank Gore his whole career. And I

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Speaker 3: love Frank, so I'm not trying to diminish what he did.

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Speaker 3: He had a great career. Saw him in Miami too,

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Speaker 3: I played against my college, so I've seen him for

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Speaker 3: a long time. Nothing about him stands out as a

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Speaker 3: Hall of Famer to me, and so hopefully he gets in,

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Speaker 3: but I don't know if that's the case.

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Speaker 2: Well, and this is because of offenses the way they

628
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Speaker 2: are right now, especially with the wide receiver and the

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Speaker 2: quarterback position. Now you're really, you know, compiling numbers only.

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Speaker 2: I was in San Diego for years, and I get

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Speaker 2: a lot of trouble talking about Philip Rivers in the

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Speaker 2: Hall of Fame. I'm like, Philip Rivers is not a

633
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Speaker 2: Hall of Fame quarterback. I mean, he was a He

634
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Speaker 2: was a really good quarterback. His durability was legendary. He

635
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Speaker 2: never missed a single start from the year that he

636
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Speaker 2: took over as a starting quarterback. On a personal level,

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Speaker 2: love the guy, but where are you setting the bar?

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Speaker 2: I mean, at any point was Philip Rivers one of

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Speaker 2: the top three or four quarterbacks in the NFL at

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Speaker 2: any point of his career. Because if you're not rated

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Speaker 2: at some point of your career as the best at

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Speaker 2: your position or the top two at your position, I

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Speaker 2: don't know how you could be considered a Hall of

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Speaker 2: Fame player.

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Speaker 3: It's just because the numbers askewed these days as well,

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Speaker 3: so it makes those arguments even tougher. He well, he's

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Speaker 3: sixth all time in the cards. I'm like, yeah, what

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Speaker 3: does that mean? Yeah? Me and Philip came out of

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Speaker 3: high school the same year in Alabama, together. Really, I

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Speaker 3: played quarterback as well, So I've loved you Philip Pool

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Speaker 3: a long time. Yeah, it's a great guy, funny to

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Speaker 3: be around. But yeah, he's also in that same debate

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Speaker 3: with me. I'm sure he's probably going to get in.

654
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Speaker 3: I feel that way, just because of the offensive numbers

655
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Speaker 3: he put up in You know, a lot of people always,

656
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Speaker 3: I mean, we're enamor with what they were doing in

657
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Speaker 3: San Diego scoring wise, and their teams never had success

658
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Speaker 3: in the playoffs obviously, right, it's going to be hard.

659
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Speaker 3: I think he will probably get in eventually too. If

660
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Speaker 3: they're saying Eli Manning.

661
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Speaker 2: Well, there's only two quarterbacks in the Pro Football Hall

662
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Speaker 2: of Fame in the Super Bowl era made to a

663
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Speaker 2: Hall of Fame without ever getting their team to a

664
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Speaker 2: Super Bowl. Dan Fouts, who rewrote the record books I annually,

665
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Speaker 2: and Eric coriol and war Moon. Those are the only

666
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Speaker 2: two quarterbacks in the Super Bowl era who never took

667
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Speaker 2: their team to the Super Bowl and made it to

668
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Speaker 2: the Hall of Fame.

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Speaker 3: Do you think Eli gets in over over.

670
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Speaker 2: Philip Draft of the same year. I mean, you know,

671
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Speaker 2: it's interestcene about Eli Manning. When the Giants won that

672
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Speaker 2: second Super Bowl, right, I will never get it. We're

673
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Speaker 2: doing our national radio show at the time in all

674
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Speaker 2: these people are like, well, that's it. Eli's better than Peyton,

675
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Speaker 2: And I'm like, if you look at Eli Manning's career,

676
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Speaker 2: if you take away the two Super Bowl runs, and

677
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Speaker 2: obviously they're on his resume, so you're not going to

678
00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:18,839
Speaker 2: raise them. He never even won another playoff game. Those

679
00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:22,000
Speaker 2: are the only two years he won a single playoff game,

680
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Speaker 2: and he won on a four to zero run both

681
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Speaker 2: those years, and beat Tom Brady in the Super Bowl

682
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Speaker 2: both times.

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Speaker 3: Both times. It's remarkable. You can't literally can't write those scripts.

684
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Speaker 2: But he has that on his resume. And if Philip

685
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Speaker 2: Rivers does not, so do you think Eli Manner? I

686
00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:39,840
Speaker 2: think Philip Rivers was a better quarterback than Eli Manning.

687
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Speaker 3: So if that's the case, do you keep him out?

688
00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:44,839
Speaker 3: Too many guys from the Hall of Fame.

689
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Speaker 2: And by the way I look at it, I love

690
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Speaker 2: when anybody gets in the Hall of Fame, right, you know,

691
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Speaker 2: I always go back to Bill James, the legendary baseball

692
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Speaker 2: abstract historian guy. He was asked about the Baseball Hall

693
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Speaker 2: of Fame de Fine, a Hall of Famer, and his

694
00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:04,560
Speaker 2: answer was straightforward. He goes, a Hall of Famer is

695
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Speaker 2: someone who's in the Hall of Fame. So don't ask me, like,

696
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Speaker 2: what's the criteria. There doesn't seem to be any criteria

697
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Speaker 2: why this guy got in and this guy didn't get

698
00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:17,759
Speaker 2: in when essentially the numbers are identical exactly. So to

699
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Speaker 2: find a Hall of Famer, someone in the Hall of Fame,

700
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Speaker 2: all right, a potential Hall of Famer.

701
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Speaker 3: And a coach.

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Speaker 2: Their marriage in twenty twenty three is the most intriguing

703
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Speaker 2: to me as we head into the new season. Who

704
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Speaker 2: is it you'll find out? This is Fox Sports Saturday.

705
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Speaker 2: I look at Sam is a pet shop boy sort

706
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Speaker 2: of circa twenty twenty three?

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Speaker 3: Is that a fair assessment?

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Speaker 2: Sam?

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Speaker 3: Sure?

710
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know any about the pet shop Boys.

711
00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:54,320
Speaker 3: Just a good song. Yeah, that's a great song.

712
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Speaker 2: Oh, by the way, we're coming alive from the tiraq

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Speaker 2: dot Com studio, Steve Harbin, Kerry Roads with you Fox

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Speaker 2: Sports Saturday.

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Speaker 3: All right.

716
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Speaker 2: I haven't said anything to carry so this is going

717
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Speaker 2: to be as fresh to him as it all is

718
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Speaker 2: to you. So, like I said, I'm really looking forward

719
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Speaker 2: to seeing if Sean Payton can read New Life into

720
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Speaker 2: Russell Wilson. But that, to me is not the number

721
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Speaker 2: one coach quarterback marriage that I'm looking forward to in

722
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Speaker 2: twenty twenty three. The number one I'm looking at is

723
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Speaker 2: Shaneestyken and Anthony Richardson. So you have a rookie coach,

724
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Speaker 2: and you have a rookie quarterback and a raw rookie

725
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Speaker 2: quarterback who completed less than fifty four percent of his

726
00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:39,320
Speaker 2: passes at the University of Florida year ago. You also

727
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Speaker 2: have a quarterback that the owner, Jimersay, said, even if

728
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Speaker 2: we had had the number one overall pick, we were

729
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Speaker 2: going to take Anthony Richardson over Bryce Young and CJ.

730
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Speaker 3: Stroud.

731
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Speaker 2: So you have the owner on record believing that they

732
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Speaker 2: have the find of this draft, that he isn't just

733
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Speaker 2: a franchise quarterback, he's a generational talent. And you hire

734
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Speaker 2: Shane Steichen, who I know is a low level assistant.

735
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Speaker 2: Way back in the day. It was unbelievable at this

736
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Speaker 2: point when I charges had like a four and twelve season,

737
00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:17,520
Speaker 2: they had Frank Reich, Nick Sirianni, and Shane Stikeen as

738
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Speaker 2: on their offensive coaching staff, and none of them seem

739
00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:24,080
Speaker 2: to make any difference at that time. Shane Steichen is

740
00:37:24,120 --> 00:37:29,480
Speaker 2: a pretty serious guy. He's not like Sirianni, very different personality.

741
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Speaker 2: How do you think Stikeen as a rookie coach handles

742
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Speaker 2: the Anthony Richardson situation, especially since the owners on record

743
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Speaker 2: expecting superstardom out of this young quarterback.

744
00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:49,040
Speaker 3: Right, you have to throw those expectations out the window. Right,

745
00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:54,200
Speaker 3: Obviously they're going to talk really highly about the person

746
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Speaker 3: they just drafted that high. So that's just the nature

747
00:37:57,560 --> 00:38:00,200
Speaker 3: of the game, the nature of the beast, right, a

748
00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:05,880
Speaker 3: young guy coming in. Stats have shown throughout probably all

749
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Speaker 3: all of football time that that first year is going

750
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Speaker 3: to be a struggle. That's for the best of them. Yeah,

751
00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:14,600
Speaker 3: that's for the Peyton Mannings of the world. Whoever it

752
00:38:14,680 --> 00:38:17,640
Speaker 3: is I saw Elway as a rookie. Oh, it's bad.

753
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Speaker 3: So if we can taper the expectations from the fans

754
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Speaker 3: of what they're going to see, because I mean, all

755
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Speaker 3: the reports I've heard so far out of camp is

756
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Speaker 3: he has looked that way, He's looked really good, and

757
00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:33,120
Speaker 3: he's done some really cool stuff on the field. I

758
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Speaker 3: just want that coach, the head coach who's had a

759
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Speaker 3: way of being for so long been able to adjust

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Speaker 3: and adapt to this kid that's coming in. That is

761
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Speaker 3: a generational talent, because you could be a generational talent

762
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Speaker 3: and not get it done on the field as well,

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Speaker 3: So be a little patient with them.

764
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Speaker 2: Accuracy is such a key, right, and I've seen it

765
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Speaker 2: both ways. I remember having a conversation with Urban Meyer

766
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Speaker 2: when he took over to Ohio State about the downfall

767
00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:02,920
Speaker 2: of Tim Tebow. I go, in his four years at Florida,

768
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Speaker 2: he completed sixty seven percent of his passes. Now he

769
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Speaker 2: can't throw the bills straight in the NFL. He goes,

770
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Speaker 2: he's in the wrong offense. I knew how to put

771
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Speaker 2: him in an offense where he's going to complete passes.

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Speaker 2: Then on the other side, he got Josh Allen, who

773
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Speaker 2: never came close to sixty percent passing in college, looked

774
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Speaker 2: like he was going to be the exact same quarterback

775
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Speaker 2: in Buffalo, and then Brian Dabeles somehow turns him into

776
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Speaker 2: a sixty seven sixty eight percent completion percentage quarterback. Is

777
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Speaker 2: that just an anomaly or is that something that in

778
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Speaker 2: other words, and Anthony Richardson can learn from a coach

779
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Speaker 2: like Shane Steiicett.

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Speaker 3: Oh One thousand percent. You can get better at your

781
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Speaker 3: craft if you're willing to work and willing to put

782
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Speaker 3: in the time to get better, right and have a

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Speaker 3: coach or somebody on that team that believes in you

784
00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:52,440
Speaker 3: and works with you to get to that point, it

785
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Speaker 3: can happen. So that's what I'm that's what I'm expecting

786
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Speaker 3: to see from him.

787
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Speaker 2: So where do you even begin, though, that's the whole point,

788
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Speaker 2: Shane Steik. Where do you begin with Anthony Richard? You

789
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Speaker 2: let him do what he does best to start. Yeah,

790
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Speaker 2: that's that's where you start. You don't put him in

791
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Speaker 2: a situation to fail. And by the way, that's what

792
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Speaker 2: in Florida they did with Tim Tebow. They let him

793
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Speaker 2: run the ball. We're gonna let you run and then

794
00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:15,359
Speaker 2: we'll figure out the passing out part of it. Hey,

795
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Speaker 2: coming up on the other side, it was, without a doubt,

796
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Speaker 2: the worst trade rumor of all time.

797
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Speaker 2: not quite sure where he's at. He's going to be

811
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Speaker 2: touring all the different NFL training camps. Do you like

812
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Speaker 2: going out to NFL training camps as a former player

813
00:41:10,160 --> 00:41:12,799
Speaker 2: and hanging out or that have zero appeal? As you

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Speaker 2: shake your head, you stick in my head. No, yeah,

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Speaker 2: I mean it too. Yeah, no, no, no.

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Speaker 3: I was invited to come out to the Jets camp

817
00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:22,120
Speaker 3: obviously right now, to go see all the fuss and

818
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Speaker 3: the noise out there with any right, but I haven't

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Speaker 3: made it out yet. There is a possibility that I

820
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Speaker 3: would go check that one out just because of all

821
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Speaker 3: the right the hoop lob. But no, not at all.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I've covered a lot of training camps

823
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Speaker 2: over the years. I don't know how much I really

824
00:41:36,280 --> 00:41:40,560
Speaker 2: get out of coach speak or even players speak. You know,

825
00:41:40,600 --> 00:41:43,279
Speaker 2: they're they're certainly just getting ready for the season and

826
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Speaker 2: dreading every day that they're out there.

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Speaker 3: It's hot, dreading it. But they're also all winning the

828
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Speaker 3: Super Bowl that, you know, which makes no sense.

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Speaker 4: Suck.

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Speaker 2: All I know is in twenty twenty, there was no

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Speaker 2: training camp, and they pulled off a season that looked,

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Speaker 2: I don't know, similar to every other season with no

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Speaker 2: training camp. I know, even the first couplet maybe a

834
00:42:00,680 --> 00:42:03,840
Speaker 2: little bit rough, but they came around. I mean, remind

835
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Speaker 2: me again in high school, how many preseason games did

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Speaker 2: you have? In high school? We had zero? How about

837
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Speaker 2: in college? You remember your college career, how many preseason games?

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Speaker 3: Yet we had zero? Zero? Yeah, I just I don't know.

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Speaker 2: You know, it's like a prehistoric thing, back in the

840
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Speaker 2: days when professional football players had off season jobs and

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Speaker 2: then actually had to get in shape to get ready

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Speaker 2: for a long season.

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Speaker 9: Right.

844
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Speaker 2: I don't think it's quite that way anymore. I gotta

845
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Speaker 2: I'm gonna have to toot my own horn here. It's

846
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Speaker 2: anything rare. I love doing it on the rare occasion.

847
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Speaker 2: I'm all right about something. So last weekend I was

848
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Speaker 2: maintaining that if I was Ardi Morino, the owner of

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Speaker 2: the Angels, I would publicly come out and state we

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Speaker 2: are not trading Shohei Otani. Yes, I would just go

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Speaker 2: out there because, as I said, imagine trading Otani in

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Speaker 2: the midst of one of the greatest seasons any player

853
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Speaker 2: has ever had in the history of Major League baseball. Honestly,

854
00:42:58,600 --> 00:43:01,320
Speaker 2: there is no comparison to any player that's ever played

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Speaker 2: the game on what Otani is doing this season, and

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Speaker 2: you trade him during that season, I don't care what

857
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Speaker 2: your even if someone traded their entire franchise to you

858
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Speaker 2: for him, that would be the only thing on your tombstone.

859
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Speaker 2: Traded Otani during the greatest season any players ever had

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Speaker 2: in Major League baseball.

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Speaker 3: I said, it's not going to happen.

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Speaker 2: And if I were Arty Marino, I would end this

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Speaker 2: gibberish about a trade and that's all it is. And

864
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Speaker 2: that's exactly what they did a couple of days later. So, Arty,

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Speaker 2: I think you were listening. Very smart play. And then

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Speaker 2: Otani comes out immediately and in a doubleheader throws a

867
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Speaker 2: one hit, complete game shutout in the opener and then

868
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Speaker 2: hits two home runs in the nightcap.

869
00:43:43,120 --> 00:43:44,319
Speaker 3: So let me ask you this.

870
00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:47,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I'm looking at Otani's numbers. He's won for

871
00:43:48,040 --> 00:43:51,520
Speaker 2: one today with a walk. Going into today, he has

872
00:43:51,600 --> 00:43:54,080
Speaker 2: thirty nine home runs that leads the majors, leads the

873
00:43:54,120 --> 00:43:57,399
Speaker 2: majors in ops at one thousand and seventy seven. By

874
00:43:57,400 --> 00:43:59,600
Speaker 2: the way, he's on pace to hit sixty one home

875
00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:03,360
Speaker 2: runs this year. He's also nine to five as a pitcher.

876
00:44:06,200 --> 00:44:12,120
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, it's pretty ridiculous. Yeah, so I'm just curious.

877
00:44:12,320 --> 00:44:15,880
Speaker 2: And again this my perspective as just an every guy

878
00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:18,840
Speaker 2: who watches sports as opposed to someone who played the

879
00:44:18,840 --> 00:44:21,440
Speaker 2: game at the highest level or two different things. So

880
00:44:21,560 --> 00:44:27,040
Speaker 2: when you when you see, watch, hear about someone like

881
00:44:27,080 --> 00:44:31,480
Speaker 2: a show Heyo Tani, as an athlete yourself, what is

882
00:44:31,520 --> 00:44:34,920
Speaker 2: your perspective on what he's doing in Major League Baseball?

883
00:44:34,960 --> 00:44:37,960
Speaker 3: My perspective perspective of what he's doing right now is

884
00:44:38,040 --> 00:44:40,800
Speaker 3: just he's one of those guys that you can obviously

885
00:44:40,880 --> 00:44:45,040
Speaker 3: tell he's really good at everything he does. So whenever

886
00:44:45,440 --> 00:44:49,480
Speaker 3: somebody like that is playing at the same time you

887
00:44:49,520 --> 00:44:52,120
Speaker 3: are or being you know, you happen to be a

888
00:44:52,200 --> 00:44:56,960
Speaker 3: mist in this, you know, this unique situation that's happening.

889
00:44:57,000 --> 00:45:00,480
Speaker 3: Even as players, we end up finding ourselves glued to

890
00:45:00,520 --> 00:45:02,920
Speaker 3: a TV trying to see what he's doing. And I

891
00:45:02,920 --> 00:45:05,480
Speaker 3: think that's the ultimate respect. When you have other guys

892
00:45:05,880 --> 00:45:09,000
Speaker 3: that are on the same level as you are, in

893
00:45:09,040 --> 00:45:11,880
Speaker 3: the same profession that you are, or again being a

894
00:45:11,880 --> 00:45:15,799
Speaker 3: professional in a sports arena gluing themselves to the to

895
00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:18,080
Speaker 3: the TV trying to see what you're doing that day,

896
00:45:18,600 --> 00:45:21,839
Speaker 3: that's the ultimate respect. Because when players, most of the time,

897
00:45:21,880 --> 00:45:24,160
Speaker 3: once we're done, we try to step away from the game.

898
00:45:24,200 --> 00:45:25,520
Speaker 3: We don't want to look at much of it. We

899
00:45:25,560 --> 00:45:27,640
Speaker 3: don't we're students of it, but we don't want to

900
00:45:27,640 --> 00:45:30,400
Speaker 3: see it again. But when somebody's going through a historical

901
00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:33,239
Speaker 3: season like this, your eyes are glued to the TV.

902
00:45:33,320 --> 00:45:34,440
Speaker 3: So that's the ultimate respect.

903
00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:39,960
Speaker 2: I mean again, there is no comparison to anything. And

904
00:45:40,040 --> 00:45:42,520
Speaker 2: the Babe Ruth look the early on it was they

905
00:45:42,600 --> 00:45:43,200
Speaker 2: were trying to do.

906
00:45:43,160 --> 00:45:44,000
Speaker 3: Babe Ruth right.

907
00:45:44,080 --> 00:45:46,160
Speaker 2: And these are people that were ill informed about Baby

908
00:45:46,200 --> 00:45:49,360
Speaker 2: Ruth's career. Baby Ruth was a pitcher for the Boston

909
00:45:49,440 --> 00:45:51,839
Speaker 2: Red Sox. One of the best left handers in all

910
00:45:51,840 --> 00:45:56,600
Speaker 2: of baseball. He was a legitimate star pitcher, legitimate one

911
00:45:56,640 --> 00:45:57,759
Speaker 2: of the best pitchers.

912
00:45:57,400 --> 00:45:58,480
Speaker 3: In the American League.

913
00:45:59,040 --> 00:46:03,440
Speaker 2: His last year and he began the transition from pitcher

914
00:46:03,480 --> 00:46:07,239
Speaker 2: to outfielder. Then he was sold to the Yankees, where

915
00:46:07,239 --> 00:46:09,040
Speaker 2: he was an outfielder of the rest of his career,

916
00:46:09,120 --> 00:46:11,160
Speaker 2: only pitched five games ever of the Yanks was like

917
00:46:11,280 --> 00:46:13,080
Speaker 2: sort of a you know, he every once in a

918
00:46:13,080 --> 00:46:14,600
Speaker 2: while he'd like to throw a game, just the show.

919
00:46:14,640 --> 00:46:15,359
Speaker 3: I could still do it.

920
00:46:15,360 --> 00:46:19,279
Speaker 2: That typened, right, no one's ever done this, No one's

921
00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:24,000
Speaker 2: ever gonna do this again. And I just if you're

922
00:46:24,040 --> 00:46:28,399
Speaker 2: the Angels, if you are Artie Morino, this guy never

923
00:46:28,600 --> 00:46:31,680
Speaker 2: was touchable. Now the good news for the Angels, and

924
00:46:31,800 --> 00:46:34,320
Speaker 2: right now they're trailing the Blue Jays two to one.

925
00:46:34,480 --> 00:46:37,719
Speaker 2: A game is moving along there. Angels trying to stay

926
00:46:37,760 --> 00:46:39,439
Speaker 2: in the race right now. They started the day four

927
00:46:39,480 --> 00:46:42,080
Speaker 2: games out of the wild card chase. But as we

928
00:46:42,200 --> 00:46:44,480
Speaker 2: come closer to the trade deadline coming up this week,

929
00:46:44,600 --> 00:46:47,959
Speaker 2: I mean, now the Angels have to double down saying,

930
00:46:47,960 --> 00:46:50,319
Speaker 2: all right, we're not trading you. And not only are

931
00:46:50,360 --> 00:46:53,640
Speaker 2: we not trading you, we're gonna make a big splash.

932
00:46:53,719 --> 00:46:57,280
Speaker 2: We're gonna do something out of left field no one's

933
00:46:57,320 --> 00:47:00,759
Speaker 2: talking about. And I expect the Angels are going to

934
00:47:00,840 --> 00:47:05,880
Speaker 2: pull off some kind of trade at the trade deadline

935
00:47:06,160 --> 00:47:10,160
Speaker 2: that nobody sees right now, nobody sees.

936
00:47:10,239 --> 00:47:14,239
Speaker 3: Well, I hope they do. He a player that's having

937
00:47:14,239 --> 00:47:16,920
Speaker 3: the season that he's having right now. You want to

938
00:47:16,960 --> 00:47:19,600
Speaker 3: see that extend as long as possible, thank you. You

939
00:47:19,640 --> 00:47:21,279
Speaker 3: want to see it go to the playoffs. You want

940
00:47:21,320 --> 00:47:23,120
Speaker 3: to see him have a chance to show himself on

941
00:47:23,160 --> 00:47:26,880
Speaker 3: the big stage. Right, So that's our ultimate hopes. Well,

942
00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:29,480
Speaker 3: let me ask you a question, Steve. So you're saying

943
00:47:29,680 --> 00:47:33,200
Speaker 3: we're seeing the season right now that will we will

944
00:47:33,200 --> 00:47:35,560
Speaker 3: never see again from any other player. Yeah, do you

945
00:47:35,640 --> 00:47:37,560
Speaker 3: think he can top this what he's doing?

946
00:47:37,640 --> 00:47:40,640
Speaker 2: Well, that is the big question moving forward, because again,

947
00:47:41,000 --> 00:47:43,560
Speaker 2: let's just say the season plays out and you know,

948
00:47:43,600 --> 00:47:45,960
Speaker 2: he wins fifteen to twenty games and he hits sixty

949
00:47:46,000 --> 00:47:50,360
Speaker 2: home runs, right, Okay, where do you even start?

950
00:47:50,480 --> 00:47:50,600
Speaker 9: Right?

951
00:47:50,840 --> 00:47:51,200
Speaker 3: Okay?

952
00:47:51,239 --> 00:47:54,200
Speaker 2: And let's say you're one of those teams that's going

953
00:47:54,280 --> 00:47:57,759
Speaker 2: to make us big splash, like there's no I'll use

954
00:47:57,760 --> 00:48:00,600
Speaker 2: the Dodgers as an example. They throw six hundred million

955
00:48:00,640 --> 00:48:04,879
Speaker 2: dollar deal, whatever the deal is, right, right? How long

956
00:48:04,960 --> 00:48:05,960
Speaker 2: can he keep this up?

957
00:48:06,000 --> 00:48:06,200
Speaker 4: Though?

958
00:48:07,320 --> 00:48:10,279
Speaker 2: I mean, he was suffering from cramps the last couple

959
00:48:10,320 --> 00:48:13,000
Speaker 2: of days in his calves. I'm thinking, get this guy

960
00:48:13,080 --> 00:48:15,960
Speaker 2: some water. I mean, come on, a Gatorade or something.

961
00:48:16,080 --> 00:48:20,399
Speaker 2: I mean, I mean, maybe maybe he's pushing it too

962
00:48:20,480 --> 00:48:25,360
Speaker 2: far because he's still relatively young. He's still in his twenties,

963
00:48:25,400 --> 00:48:28,000
Speaker 2: and you know, you feel indestructible, like I can, I

964
00:48:28,040 --> 00:48:30,319
Speaker 2: can continue to do this, and the numbers show that

965
00:48:30,360 --> 00:48:34,120
Speaker 2: he can. There's not a slump going on here. But

966
00:48:34,200 --> 00:48:36,200
Speaker 2: how much is that going to translate? Because if you're

967
00:48:36,560 --> 00:48:38,920
Speaker 2: ending up paying you know, sixty million dollars a year

968
00:48:38,960 --> 00:48:40,680
Speaker 2: for a guy that ends up as nothing more than

969
00:48:40,680 --> 00:48:47,319
Speaker 2: a DH, then that doesn't make a whole lot of sense, right,

970
00:48:47,880 --> 00:48:51,279
Speaker 2: So you're you're saying somebody with the idea that he

971
00:48:51,320 --> 00:48:54,239
Speaker 2: can be one of the top starting pitchers in baseball

972
00:48:54,719 --> 00:48:56,200
Speaker 2: and be the best DH INVESTB.

973
00:48:56,760 --> 00:48:59,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's when I don't know how long back in lasts,

974
00:48:59,560 --> 00:49:03,520
Speaker 3: and I think he is. We all see it. He's

975
00:49:03,520 --> 00:49:06,920
Speaker 3: one of the best athletes we've seen in the sport

976
00:49:06,960 --> 00:49:10,279
Speaker 3: of baseball. And what he's doing. Can he be an

977
00:49:10,280 --> 00:49:13,680
Speaker 3: everyday pitcher like this moving forward and hit the ball

978
00:49:13,719 --> 00:49:14,680
Speaker 3: the way that he's hitting the ball.

979
00:49:14,880 --> 00:49:18,280
Speaker 2: We had John Paul Morosi on, of course, our Baseball

980
00:49:18,320 --> 00:49:21,000
Speaker 2: insider here, and he had a suggestion, instead of being

981
00:49:21,000 --> 00:49:26,000
Speaker 2: a starting pitcher, how about becoming a closer. But then

982
00:49:26,040 --> 00:49:28,640
Speaker 2: I'm thinking, well, wait, hold on a second, hold on,

983
00:49:29,640 --> 00:49:33,759
Speaker 2: if he's a closer. Now again, if he's dhing, you

984
00:49:33,800 --> 00:49:36,040
Speaker 2: can put him in as the closer. There's nothing that

985
00:49:36,080 --> 00:49:38,680
Speaker 2: prevents you from throwing him in for an inning or so.

986
00:49:39,440 --> 00:49:42,000
Speaker 2: But he still has to warm up during the course

987
00:49:42,040 --> 00:49:44,120
Speaker 2: of a game. In other words, you know, it's one

988
00:49:44,160 --> 00:49:46,920
Speaker 2: thing when you're a starting pitcher and you know every

989
00:49:47,000 --> 00:49:49,319
Speaker 2: fourth or fifth day you're going to be having. Every

990
00:49:49,320 --> 00:49:51,960
Speaker 2: fifth day you're going to have an opportunity to get

991
00:49:52,000 --> 00:49:55,520
Speaker 2: yourself ready for a day. If you're a closer, well

992
00:49:55,960 --> 00:49:58,319
Speaker 2: then you have to be on call every game.

993
00:49:58,360 --> 00:50:00,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't see the clos game. I don't see

994
00:50:00,719 --> 00:50:02,600
Speaker 3: the closer thing happen. And it's such a mentality.

995
00:50:02,640 --> 00:50:03,040
Speaker 4: It's a line.

996
00:50:03,239 --> 00:50:05,640
Speaker 2: Let's say he's a dha and all of a sudden

997
00:50:05,640 --> 00:50:07,880
Speaker 2: he's got to warm up in the bullpad. It's a mindset.

998
00:50:07,920 --> 00:50:09,920
Speaker 2: All of a sudden, they're like, hey, you gotta leave

999
00:50:09,960 --> 00:50:12,120
Speaker 2: the bullet. You're at the plate right now, Steve. It's

1000
00:50:12,120 --> 00:50:14,320
Speaker 2: a mind that doesn't make any sense. It doesn't Closers

1001
00:50:14,360 --> 00:50:18,200
Speaker 2: are wired differently, you know. I've been around in New

1002
00:50:18,320 --> 00:50:20,920
Speaker 2: York with the Marianna Rivera. I've seen all the things.

1003
00:50:21,680 --> 00:50:24,879
Speaker 2: Their mindsets are so locked in they know what they're

1004
00:50:24,920 --> 00:50:27,200
Speaker 2: doing in that game, right. And I think obviously going

1005
00:50:27,239 --> 00:50:29,560
Speaker 2: into the season, if he was told he was going

1006
00:50:29,600 --> 00:50:33,240
Speaker 2: to be a closer, I mean, the mentality has to happen.

1007
00:50:33,320 --> 00:50:36,080
Speaker 3: That's switch has to happen. I can see why don't

1008
00:50:36,080 --> 00:50:38,160
Speaker 3: they Just I don't know how many games is he

1009
00:50:38,160 --> 00:50:39,840
Speaker 3: going to pitch this year in total?

1010
00:50:40,040 --> 00:50:42,520
Speaker 2: Well, I mean he'll probably pitch in the neighborhood of

1011
00:50:42,840 --> 00:50:44,359
Speaker 2: third twenty five to thirty start.

1012
00:50:44,440 --> 00:50:47,160
Speaker 3: Can you cut that down the seventeen sixteen. Would that

1013
00:50:47,200 --> 00:50:47,840
Speaker 3: make a difference.

1014
00:50:47,920 --> 00:50:50,440
Speaker 2: Well, you could spots start him, but that's I'm not

1015
00:50:50,480 --> 00:50:52,560
Speaker 2: paying sixty million a year for a spot starter.

1016
00:50:52,800 --> 00:50:52,840
Speaker 9: No.

1017
00:50:53,280 --> 00:50:56,279
Speaker 2: To me, his value is as great as a hitter

1018
00:50:56,360 --> 00:51:01,399
Speaker 2: as he is. There aren't many dominant starting pitchers. I mean,

1019
00:51:01,440 --> 00:51:03,640
Speaker 2: what he did the other day is last start, where

1020
00:51:04,040 --> 00:51:06,040
Speaker 2: he went the distance he and Sissy I want to

1021
00:51:06,080 --> 00:51:08,360
Speaker 2: do this. I want to go nine innings and he

1022
00:51:08,440 --> 00:51:12,440
Speaker 2: throws a one hit shutout. There's just not many pitchers

1023
00:51:12,480 --> 00:51:15,200
Speaker 2: that can do that much less hits sixty home runs

1024
00:51:15,239 --> 00:51:18,880
Speaker 2: as a D eight. So to me, his greatest value

1025
00:51:19,000 --> 00:51:22,239
Speaker 2: still is as a pitcher, because that's what teams are

1026
00:51:22,280 --> 00:51:25,319
Speaker 2: looking for, is the kind of starting pitcher and give

1027
00:51:25,320 --> 00:51:27,759
Speaker 2: you six seven innings every outing and do that for

1028
00:51:27,800 --> 00:51:28,719
Speaker 2: thirty times a year.

1029
00:51:28,680 --> 00:51:31,000
Speaker 3: And so you will sacrifice the bat and stuff that

1030
00:51:31,040 --> 00:51:34,320
Speaker 3: he's doing. I would got you. I wouldn't dt DHM

1031
00:51:34,320 --> 00:51:34,759
Speaker 3: every day.

1032
00:51:34,800 --> 00:51:37,279
Speaker 2: Now again, it's hard to bench a guy when he's

1033
00:51:37,320 --> 00:51:40,400
Speaker 2: doing what he's doing this year. His offensive numbers this

1034
00:51:40,520 --> 00:51:43,680
Speaker 2: year are going through the stratosphere. I mean, seemingly just hit.

1035
00:51:43,719 --> 00:51:46,200
Speaker 2: He's hitting a home run in every game. In fact,

1036
00:51:46,320 --> 00:51:48,239
Speaker 2: he is now going to be, I think, in the

1037
00:51:48,320 --> 00:51:53,000
Speaker 2: last fifty years, just the third American League player to

1038
00:51:53,160 --> 00:51:55,600
Speaker 2: have forty home runs or more. He's at thirty nine

1039
00:51:55,719 --> 00:51:58,480
Speaker 2: right now by August first, so he needs one more

1040
00:51:58,520 --> 00:52:01,000
Speaker 2: home run. The only other two were Aaron Judge last

1041
00:52:01,080 --> 00:52:04,040
Speaker 2: year and Ken Griffy had one year like that back in.

1042
00:52:04,040 --> 00:52:07,000
Speaker 3: The day in Seattle. That's it. That's it. Those are

1043
00:52:07,000 --> 00:52:09,240
Speaker 3: the only two. Those are all three good players.

1044
00:52:09,440 --> 00:52:13,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's pretty good company, right all right. Coming

1045
00:52:13,719 --> 00:52:15,240
Speaker 2: up on the other side, we do have the baseball

1046
00:52:15,280 --> 00:52:17,560
Speaker 2: trade deadline coming up. We're gonna get another voice in

1047
00:52:17,600 --> 00:52:22,360
Speaker 2: here because his team, his team could be one of

1048
00:52:22,400 --> 00:52:25,840
Speaker 2: those that is ready for a fire sale.

1049
00:52:26,440 --> 00:52:27,839
Speaker 3: Which team you're gonna find out?

1050
00:52:27,880 --> 00:52:31,239
Speaker 2: This is Fox Sports Saturday, Steve Harvin, Kerry Roads, Fox

1051
00:52:31,239 --> 00:52:34,000
Speaker 2: Sports Saturday. We're coming live from the tire Raq dot

1052
00:52:34,040 --> 00:52:39,640
Speaker 2: Com studios. Anytime you have a trade deadline, it is

1053
00:52:39,760 --> 00:52:43,200
Speaker 2: the job of insiders.

1054
00:52:43,640 --> 00:52:44,719
Speaker 3: To create stories.

1055
00:52:46,320 --> 00:52:48,919
Speaker 2: I know this from a lot of friends that I've

1056
00:52:48,960 --> 00:52:52,200
Speaker 2: had over the years that have been employed by many

1057
00:52:52,200 --> 00:52:57,680
Speaker 2: of the major sports outlets as insiders. And I said, well,

1058
00:52:57,719 --> 00:53:00,759
Speaker 2: how do you how do you get a story out

1059
00:53:00,760 --> 00:53:01,880
Speaker 2: when there are no stories?

1060
00:53:01,920 --> 00:53:04,880
Speaker 3: And he goes or she goes. I've had both.

1061
00:53:07,000 --> 00:53:09,880
Speaker 2: It doesn't matter how much truth there is to the rumor.

1062
00:53:10,560 --> 00:53:14,320
Speaker 2: We are expected to get names out there. The bigger

1063
00:53:14,360 --> 00:53:19,839
Speaker 2: the name, the better. Even in the end, ninety nine

1064
00:53:19,880 --> 00:53:22,520
Speaker 2: out of one hundred times the deal doesn't get done.

1065
00:53:23,040 --> 00:53:25,399
Speaker 2: We've done our job as long as we can get

1066
00:53:25,400 --> 00:53:29,200
Speaker 2: a big name into the news. And that, to me

1067
00:53:29,320 --> 00:53:31,239
Speaker 2: was the whole show hey Atani thing. I don't think

1068
00:53:31,280 --> 00:53:35,320
Speaker 2: the Angels ever seriously considered trading Sho hey O Tani

1069
00:53:35,320 --> 00:53:38,040
Speaker 2: in the midst of the greatest season eight players ever had. Okay,

1070
00:53:38,080 --> 00:53:42,719
Speaker 2: that was just not going to happen. So I want

1071
00:53:42,760 --> 00:53:45,319
Speaker 2: to get to one trade rumor before we get to

1072
00:53:45,360 --> 00:53:49,080
Speaker 2: a specific team. One of the trade rumors is that

1073
00:53:49,120 --> 00:53:54,440
Speaker 2: the Saint Louis Cardinals are in conversation with the Dodgers

1074
00:53:54,960 --> 00:54:01,640
Speaker 2: to trade Nolan Aernato. Now, to me, this one, on

1075
00:54:01,680 --> 00:54:09,680
Speaker 2: the surface smells of fake news. Nolan Aernado is essentially

1076
00:54:09,840 --> 00:54:12,760
Speaker 2: the face of an organization and it's having a down season.

1077
00:54:12,760 --> 00:54:14,960
Speaker 2: The Cardinals usually have a lot of success. It's a

1078
00:54:15,000 --> 00:54:18,319
Speaker 2: down year. There's a number of reasons for that. But

1079
00:54:19,000 --> 00:54:24,080
Speaker 2: you stole him essentially from the Rockies, and why would

1080
00:54:24,080 --> 00:54:27,120
Speaker 2: you trade him, no matter even if you were looking

1081
00:54:27,160 --> 00:54:30,759
Speaker 2: for an and fusion of talent. So then there was

1082
00:54:30,800 --> 00:54:34,640
Speaker 2: this wild rumor that the Dodgers were willing to part

1083
00:54:34,680 --> 00:54:40,960
Speaker 2: with their top four minor league slash newly major league

1084
00:54:41,160 --> 00:54:45,520
Speaker 2: pitchers in order to get Nolan Aeronado. That to me,

1085
00:54:45,600 --> 00:54:48,239
Speaker 2: is even more far fetched than the idea of the

1086
00:54:48,239 --> 00:54:53,279
Speaker 2: Cardinals trading near Aeronado. I mean, I mean, look, it's

1087
00:54:53,360 --> 00:54:55,440
Speaker 2: nice to have a third baseman who is going to

1088
00:54:55,440 --> 00:54:56,760
Speaker 2: be in the Hall of Fame someday.

1089
00:54:57,200 --> 00:54:58,680
Speaker 3: I mean, the guy is Dominanting.

1090
00:54:58,680 --> 00:55:00,480
Speaker 2: He's won the Gold Glove every year he's been in

1091
00:55:00,480 --> 00:55:03,880
Speaker 2: Major League Baseball, on top of being an incredible offensive player.

1092
00:55:03,880 --> 00:55:04,520
Speaker 3: On top of that.

1093
00:55:05,520 --> 00:55:08,719
Speaker 2: But that would be insane for the Dodgers who need

1094
00:55:08,840 --> 00:55:11,759
Speaker 2: pitching right now. That's what they need to give your

1095
00:55:11,800 --> 00:55:16,239
Speaker 2: top prospects, all of them. Well, to get Nolan Aeronato.

1096
00:55:15,719 --> 00:55:17,680
Speaker 3: Well it makes no sense. Well, the Dodgers and Yankees

1097
00:55:17,719 --> 00:55:21,239
Speaker 3: obviously they are name oriented and a lot of times

1098
00:55:21,239 --> 00:55:23,680
Speaker 3: they're able to get that big draw in to keep

1099
00:55:24,360 --> 00:55:29,400
Speaker 3: butts in the seats as well. So four four pitches

1100
00:55:29,719 --> 00:55:33,840
Speaker 3: a lot. But I could see them still pulling the

1101
00:55:33,840 --> 00:55:36,880
Speaker 3: trigger on something like that to keep you in the seats.

1102
00:55:37,440 --> 00:55:39,160
Speaker 3: I mean, I wouldn't even have done that for show.

1103
00:55:39,160 --> 00:55:42,960
Speaker 2: Hey, O, Tommy much Just Nolan Aeronada, All right, I

1104
00:55:43,000 --> 00:55:44,560
Speaker 2: want to bring Brandon in our producer.

1105
00:55:44,600 --> 00:55:45,120
Speaker 3: Here he goes.

1106
00:55:45,120 --> 00:55:48,719
Speaker 2: Brandon is fully decked out in his Padres gear. The

1107
00:55:48,719 --> 00:55:51,960
Speaker 2: fact that you are fully decked out, shirt cap, the

1108
00:55:52,000 --> 00:55:56,160
Speaker 2: whole shebang. Is this in anticipation that the Padres are

1109
00:55:56,160 --> 00:55:59,040
Speaker 2: gonna stand pat which is what aj Preller they're head

1110
00:55:59,040 --> 00:56:02,360
Speaker 2: a baseball operation maintains are going to do. Or is

1111
00:56:02,360 --> 00:56:07,880
Speaker 2: it the anticipation that they're gonna make some blockbuster deals

1112
00:56:07,880 --> 00:56:12,880
Speaker 2: to get themselves back into the playoff conversation anticipation or

1113
00:56:12,880 --> 00:56:15,799
Speaker 2: he lost a bet that's it's either one. I know

1114
00:56:15,840 --> 00:56:18,239
Speaker 2: he's a Podres fan, So what is it?

1115
00:56:18,280 --> 00:56:18,480
Speaker 4: Why?

1116
00:56:18,560 --> 00:56:20,680
Speaker 3: Why so decked out in Padre's geared today.

1117
00:56:20,760 --> 00:56:24,600
Speaker 10: So tonight they're playing the Texas Rangers. And I also,

1118
00:56:24,840 --> 00:56:29,160
Speaker 10: aside from in addition to producing this show, I produced

1119
00:56:29,200 --> 00:56:31,400
Speaker 10: the next show and one of the hosts is a

1120
00:56:31,400 --> 00:56:32,600
Speaker 10: big Texas Rangers fan.

1121
00:56:32,800 --> 00:56:33,239
Speaker 3: Uh huh.

1122
00:56:33,440 --> 00:56:35,279
Speaker 10: So I thought i'd, you know, troll him a little bit.

1123
00:56:35,360 --> 00:56:37,400
Speaker 2: And you know, now you do know who the manager

1124
00:56:37,520 --> 00:56:40,319
Speaker 2: of the Texas Rangers, Bruce Bochi. He's great, one of

1125
00:56:40,360 --> 00:56:45,120
Speaker 2: my favorite people ever. I mean I was there during

1126
00:56:45,160 --> 00:56:47,759
Speaker 2: Boach's main run with the Podres and when he won

1127
00:56:47,800 --> 00:56:50,239
Speaker 2: that first World Series with the Giants. Opening day of

1128
00:56:50,280 --> 00:56:52,680
Speaker 2: the next year, they were playing the Dodgers, I walked

1129
00:56:52,680 --> 00:56:55,840
Speaker 2: into his office and I said to him, really the

1130
00:56:55,960 --> 00:56:59,319
Speaker 2: Giants of all teams, all right, So let's let's talk

1131
00:56:59,320 --> 00:57:02,040
Speaker 2: to Brandon about his Padres because Carrie, when you look

1132
00:57:02,080 --> 00:57:04,680
Speaker 2: at the Padres, they got a lot of interesting guys.

1133
00:57:04,840 --> 00:57:07,520
Speaker 2: You got Blake Snell, who's leading the majors in er

1134
00:57:07,880 --> 00:57:11,680
Speaker 2: right now, with an expiring contract. You got Josh Hader,

1135
00:57:11,719 --> 00:57:15,759
Speaker 2: one of the best closers in baseball, on an expiring contract,

1136
00:57:15,920 --> 00:57:19,840
Speaker 2: so Brandon, do you expect one of them or both

1137
00:57:19,880 --> 00:57:23,280
Speaker 2: of them to be traded? And what other wild Padre

1138
00:57:23,520 --> 00:57:25,080
Speaker 2: trade rumors are you hearing?

1139
00:57:25,800 --> 00:57:28,600
Speaker 10: Well, I saw one last night. It was from you know,

1140
00:57:28,720 --> 00:57:31,520
Speaker 10: Twitter user. They didn't have a check mark or anything,

1141
00:57:31,520 --> 00:57:34,400
Speaker 10: but you know how these things spread. But exactly nowadays

1142
00:57:34,480 --> 00:57:36,280
Speaker 10: you can't really trust anyone with a check mark or

1143
00:57:36,280 --> 00:57:39,560
Speaker 10: without a check mark. I saw someone last night talking

1144
00:57:39,600 --> 00:57:45,040
Speaker 10: about the Padres were potentially pursuing somebody in the NL Central,

1145
00:57:45,160 --> 00:57:47,160
Speaker 10: like a big name who's on a long term deal.

1146
00:57:47,800 --> 00:57:49,280
Speaker 10: And I know a lot of people were thrown out

1147
00:57:49,360 --> 00:57:51,800
Speaker 10: names like Paul Goldsmith or something, but I don't see

1148
00:57:51,840 --> 00:57:54,680
Speaker 10: them doing If I was a j preller, at least,

1149
00:57:55,320 --> 00:57:58,280
Speaker 10: I wouldn't do really much this trade deadline. I'd kind

1150
00:57:58,280 --> 00:58:03,160
Speaker 10: of do a like aid Off reboot soft retool, where

1151
00:58:03,840 --> 00:58:08,280
Speaker 10: you sell off one of the pieces Hater specifically, I think,

1152
00:58:09,080 --> 00:58:11,240
Speaker 10: I think you sell high on him to a contender.

1153
00:58:11,880 --> 00:58:13,800
Speaker 10: You try to get some prospects, You maybe get a

1154
00:58:13,800 --> 00:58:17,440
Speaker 10: couple of bullpen pieces back. You keep Snell because you're

1155
00:58:17,440 --> 00:58:21,720
Speaker 10: still in the hunt. I mean, you keep plaking who's

1156
00:58:21,720 --> 00:58:24,840
Speaker 10: having a cy Young type season, and you keep one

1157
00:58:24,880 --> 00:58:28,040
Speaker 10: Soto who you have another year of control after this one.

1158
00:58:28,480 --> 00:58:30,800
Speaker 10: I don't think the Padres really are in position to

1159
00:58:31,680 --> 00:58:35,160
Speaker 10: call it quits right now, blow everything up and throw

1160
00:58:35,200 --> 00:58:37,000
Speaker 10: themselves into another rebuild right now.

1161
00:58:37,160 --> 00:58:38,800
Speaker 3: That's what I was about to bring up, Brandon. So

1162
00:58:38,880 --> 00:58:41,840
Speaker 3: I've I've heard the rumors about you know, Juan Soto

1163
00:58:42,120 --> 00:58:44,720
Speaker 3: possibly being on the trading block as well. And do

1164
00:58:44,800 --> 00:58:46,520
Speaker 3: you get you just said it? I mean I think

1165
00:58:46,560 --> 00:58:48,480
Speaker 3: you got to give them, give them guys, Give those

1166
00:58:48,480 --> 00:58:51,160
Speaker 3: guys a chance to write the ship and go after

1167
00:58:51,200 --> 00:58:53,040
Speaker 3: it again. They had a good postseason last year, and

1168
00:58:53,680 --> 00:58:55,360
Speaker 3: you know, give them a chance to go after it again.

1169
00:58:55,480 --> 00:58:56,360
Speaker 3: What do you feel about that?

1170
00:58:56,840 --> 00:58:57,040
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1171
00:58:57,080 --> 00:58:59,200
Speaker 10: Absolutely, I mean you had to. You had a rough

1172
00:58:59,200 --> 00:59:01,240
Speaker 10: start to the season and you haven't been able to

1173
00:59:01,280 --> 00:59:03,880
Speaker 10: string together wins. I think Steve and I were talking

1174
00:59:03,920 --> 00:59:07,240
Speaker 10: before the show, and their highest winning streak this season

1175
00:59:07,320 --> 00:59:09,000
Speaker 10: is three games. They've only won three games in a

1176
00:59:09,080 --> 00:59:10,320
Speaker 10: row one time.

1177
00:59:10,640 --> 00:59:11,360
Speaker 3: It's crazy.

1178
00:59:11,400 --> 00:59:14,040
Speaker 10: So what are they now? I think they're like four

1179
00:59:14,080 --> 00:59:14,920
Speaker 10: games under, five.

1180
00:59:14,760 --> 00:59:17,640
Speaker 2: To fifty and fifty four, six games out of the wildcard.

1181
00:59:17,840 --> 00:59:21,080
Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean you string together, you string together a

1182
00:59:21,160 --> 00:59:23,680
Speaker 10: run of like ten and fifte you know, ten out

1183
00:59:23,720 --> 00:59:27,200
Speaker 10: of your next fifteen or something, right, all of a sudden,

1184
00:59:27,200 --> 00:59:29,320
Speaker 10: you're looking at a team that could probably make a

1185
00:59:29,320 --> 00:59:31,840
Speaker 10: push for the wild card. At this point, you're not

1186
00:59:31,880 --> 00:59:34,360
Speaker 10: catching the Dodgers, I don't think, and I don't think

1187
00:59:34,360 --> 00:59:36,680
Speaker 10: you're catching the Diamondbacks either. All right, here you're playing

1188
00:59:36,680 --> 00:59:38,640
Speaker 10: for that second wildcard spot right here.

1189
00:59:38,680 --> 00:59:40,919
Speaker 2: Here's where the problems have been for the Potters, because

1190
00:59:40,960 --> 00:59:44,040
Speaker 2: if you look at some of their offensive numbers, you

1191
00:59:44,080 --> 00:59:47,320
Speaker 2: know they're not bad. I mean, Soto is again a

1192
00:59:47,560 --> 00:59:50,280
Speaker 2: frustrating guy for me to evaluate as a hitter because

1193
00:59:50,320 --> 00:59:53,040
Speaker 2: he's certainly not putting up the numbers we saw in Washington,

1194
00:59:53,480 --> 00:59:55,160
Speaker 2: but he saw as a four to twenty on base

1195
00:59:55,160 --> 00:59:56,520
Speaker 2: percentage of nine to twenty three.

1196
00:59:56,600 --> 00:59:58,760
Speaker 3: Ohps. He's a big walker. He walks a lot.

1197
00:59:59,400 --> 01:00:01,640
Speaker 2: Again, I'm not paying thirty million a year for a

1198
01:00:01,640 --> 01:00:06,520
Speaker 2: guy that walks a lot. Their miscalculations, though, are a lot.

1199
01:00:06,840 --> 01:00:11,160
Speaker 2: One DH has been a disaster for this team. So

1200
01:00:11,240 --> 01:00:13,960
Speaker 2: now that you have a universal DH, you've got to

1201
01:00:14,040 --> 01:00:19,480
Speaker 2: have a DH. Matt Carbenter is hitting one sixty six.

1202
01:00:20,480 --> 01:00:23,720
Speaker 2: The other miscalculation that was off the chart was Jake

1203
01:00:23,760 --> 01:00:27,320
Speaker 2: Cronenworth to get an extension to be a first baseman.

1204
01:00:28,240 --> 01:00:32,240
Speaker 2: Jake Croninworth was a nice little story. He's sort of

1205
01:00:32,280 --> 01:00:36,000
Speaker 2: a fan favorite. But when you have a first baseman

1206
01:00:36,400 --> 01:00:39,160
Speaker 2: that has an ops of six point fifty eight, that's

1207
01:00:39,200 --> 01:00:42,960
Speaker 2: an offensive position. You have four offensive positions on the

1208
01:00:42,960 --> 01:00:46,320
Speaker 2: field first base, third base, left field, right field, your

1209
01:00:46,400 --> 01:00:50,560
Speaker 2: corners are offensive positions. That's well, those positions need to

1210
01:00:50,600 --> 01:00:57,480
Speaker 2: generate offensive numbers. Center field, shortstop, second base, catcher, defensive positions. Okay,

1211
01:00:57,520 --> 01:01:00,880
Speaker 2: if you're getting offensive numbers out of those positions, it's

1212
01:01:00,880 --> 01:01:05,640
Speaker 2: a bonus. So you're having an off season for Manny Machado.

1213
01:01:07,880 --> 01:01:12,600
Speaker 2: You know, uh Tatis has been solid but not overwhelming,

1214
01:01:14,640 --> 01:01:17,640
Speaker 2: and so they are what they are. Look, I said,

1215
01:01:18,240 --> 01:01:21,600
Speaker 2: my idea for the Podres trade deadline was a different,

1216
01:01:21,840 --> 01:01:26,280
Speaker 2: different plan fire Aj Preller. I mean, I just don't

1217
01:01:26,320 --> 01:01:29,160
Speaker 2: know how long you can stay with some on a decade.

1218
01:01:29,800 --> 01:01:33,160
Speaker 2: If you're a general manager, head of baseball operations, whatever

1219
01:01:33,240 --> 01:01:37,360
Speaker 2: it may be, and you're not producing. At some point,

1220
01:01:37,400 --> 01:01:41,320
Speaker 2: he's on his third manager that he hired. At some point,

1221
01:01:41,400 --> 01:01:45,320
Speaker 2: you're like, dude, I appreciate the effort. I know you

1222
01:01:45,400 --> 01:01:46,640
Speaker 2: live and breathe baseball.

1223
01:01:47,240 --> 01:01:47,960
Speaker 3: It's not working.

1224
01:01:48,680 --> 01:01:51,200
Speaker 2: And not only that, I gave you an open pocket

1225
01:01:51,280 --> 01:01:55,600
Speaker 2: book right, and the Podres have just been spending money

1226
01:01:55,640 --> 01:01:58,120
Speaker 2: like there's no tomorrow, and guess what tomorrow is gonna come?

1227
01:01:58,280 --> 01:01:58,640
Speaker 3: It will.

1228
01:01:59,320 --> 01:02:02,120
Speaker 10: I think if there's any like position player, they can

1229
01:02:02,200 --> 01:02:04,720
Speaker 10: move past this trade deadline. I don't think a lot

1230
01:02:04,880 --> 01:02:07,520
Speaker 10: enough people are talking about Trank Grisham.

1231
01:02:07,960 --> 01:02:09,480
Speaker 3: Nobody wants Trank Grisham.

1232
01:02:09,600 --> 01:02:12,560
Speaker 2: He hits he barely hits two hundred, and then he said, well,

1233
01:02:12,600 --> 01:02:14,280
Speaker 2: he's a gold glove center field.

1234
01:02:14,280 --> 01:02:15,520
Speaker 3: Come on, do you know the.

1235
01:02:15,440 --> 01:02:19,000
Speaker 10: Third highest ops on the Padres is right now Hassan Kim.

1236
01:02:19,600 --> 01:02:24,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, Hassan Kim is actually exceeded expectations. I mean has

1237
01:02:24,840 --> 01:02:27,560
Speaker 2: The funny thing about Hassan Kim was they brought him

1238
01:02:27,600 --> 01:02:30,520
Speaker 2: in because they weren't completely sold on Croninworth.

1239
01:02:31,600 --> 01:02:33,760
Speaker 3: They thought cronin Worth was what he is.

1240
01:02:33,960 --> 01:02:37,920
Speaker 2: He's a utility infielder, and they gave the intention to

1241
01:02:38,000 --> 01:02:42,440
Speaker 2: give an extension to him to be your everyday first baseman.

1242
01:02:43,280 --> 01:02:45,680
Speaker 2: These are these are the insane things where you say

1243
01:02:45,720 --> 01:02:50,760
Speaker 2: to yourself, all right, it's not working. I'm not drinking

1244
01:02:50,840 --> 01:02:53,920
Speaker 2: the kool aid anymore. If I'm Peter Seidler, I'm sorry.

1245
01:02:54,160 --> 01:02:57,680
Speaker 2: Trade aj Preler. Proballer is a Favorit he's one of

1246
01:02:57,680 --> 01:03:00,160
Speaker 2: those guys, you know, media falls in love with guy

1247
01:03:00,320 --> 01:03:03,920
Speaker 2: that talk baseball like he's the ultimate guy with the media.

1248
01:03:04,040 --> 01:03:04,200
Speaker 4: Right.

1249
01:03:05,040 --> 01:03:06,040
Speaker 3: He's a junkie.

1250
01:03:06,240 --> 01:03:10,280
Speaker 2: Literally, there's no exaggeration to that. But whatever your game

1251
01:03:10,320 --> 01:03:13,080
Speaker 2: plan is, it spen a disaster.

1252
01:03:14,480 --> 01:03:20,000
Speaker 3: With this payroll. So anyway, Brandon's gonna be okay.

1253
01:03:20,320 --> 01:03:23,400
Speaker 10: That's okay, They'll be fine if they don't make the

1254
01:03:23,400 --> 01:03:25,960
Speaker 10: playoffs this year. There's always next year. Again, they have

1255
01:03:26,000 --> 01:03:26,960
Speaker 10: that extra year control.

1256
01:03:27,160 --> 01:03:29,120
Speaker 2: I've been saying it's always next year since they were

1257
01:03:29,160 --> 01:03:31,560
Speaker 2: born in nineteen sixty nine.

1258
01:03:32,720 --> 01:03:33,160
Speaker 3: Very true.

1259
01:03:33,280 --> 01:03:35,640
Speaker 2: At some point, you can't keep saying at some point

1260
01:03:35,680 --> 01:03:38,280
Speaker 2: it has to be now, and it's still not now.

1261
01:03:38,600 --> 01:03:41,640
Speaker 2: Strike shortened season, right, I mean the COVID season. They

1262
01:03:41,640 --> 01:03:44,680
Speaker 2: had that great run and then all the expectations and

1263
01:03:44,720 --> 01:03:46,920
Speaker 2: they went like that and then they come back with

1264
01:03:46,960 --> 01:03:49,720
Speaker 2: a big year last year, big run in the playoffs.

1265
01:03:50,120 --> 01:03:50,600
Speaker 2: Next year.

1266
01:03:52,480 --> 01:03:55,880
Speaker 10: Next year's the year man peaks and valleys.

1267
01:03:56,080 --> 01:03:58,280
Speaker 2: All right, let's find out what's trending right now. I

1268
01:03:58,600 --> 01:04:00,800
Speaker 2: know a man that wants to see a certain level

1269
01:04:00,840 --> 01:04:03,160
Speaker 2: of competence on a consistent level.

1270
01:04:03,920 --> 01:04:05,800
Speaker 3: I'll be Brian famly defend.

1271
01:04:05,840 --> 01:04:08,560
Speaker 2: You don't have a whole lot of tolerance or you know,

1272
01:04:09,120 --> 01:04:12,440
Speaker 2: one year up, one year dediocrity, Yeah, mediocrity.

1273
01:04:12,920 --> 01:04:15,240
Speaker 9: In growing up in San Diego, Guys, I always thought

1274
01:04:15,240 --> 01:04:19,040
Speaker 9: that organization was sort of like the twenty first century

1275
01:04:19,120 --> 01:04:21,840
Speaker 9: version of the Montreal Expos and essensh It was just

1276
01:04:21,880 --> 01:04:25,360
Speaker 9: a glorified triple A team where once somebody gets good,

1277
01:04:25,520 --> 01:04:29,480
Speaker 9: they go to another team and the Padres are continually selling.

1278
01:04:29,520 --> 01:04:32,520
Speaker 9: Now we forgot to mention that our producer Brandon is

1279
01:04:32,560 --> 01:04:35,320
Speaker 9: also the Padres mascot, so he is going to be

1280
01:04:35,480 --> 01:04:37,920
Speaker 9: up and down all the rows today and then he

1281
01:04:38,040 --> 01:04:41,040
Speaker 9: also Moonlights is selling peanuts and popcorn.

1282
01:04:41,200 --> 01:04:42,240
Speaker 3: By the way, ed Go Park.

1283
01:04:42,280 --> 01:04:45,400
Speaker 2: I'm looking at him in his Padres gear today and

1284
01:04:45,440 --> 01:04:50,160
Speaker 2: I'm reminded of a former padre, Kirk Bavokla, a little

1285
01:04:50,160 --> 01:04:51,360
Speaker 2: bit of Kerkavocla.

1286
01:04:51,880 --> 01:04:53,720
Speaker 3: Do you see that? Do you know who I'm talking about?

1287
01:04:53,720 --> 01:04:55,880
Speaker 10: Absolutely? Yes, I have Kerpavoqua's number.

1288
01:04:56,120 --> 01:04:56,320
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1289
01:04:56,400 --> 01:05:00,840
Speaker 2: I think Tommy Losorda once said Kirk kerk couldn't hit

1290
01:05:00,840 --> 01:05:02,520
Speaker 2: water if he fell out of a boat.

1291
01:05:02,840 --> 01:05:05,479
Speaker 10: Oh man, I mean neither could I found.

1292
01:05:05,600 --> 01:05:07,760
Speaker 2: So that's a classical sort of it.

1293
01:05:07,840 --> 01:05:10,000
Speaker 9: I always felt that that was a metaphor that could

1294
01:05:10,000 --> 01:05:12,120
Speaker 9: be used for Matt Stairs. I know Matt Stairs was

1295
01:05:12,160 --> 01:05:15,320
Speaker 9: a Padre at one point and had like around the

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Speaker 9: Mendoza line of the batting average.

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Speaker 2: There's been a lot of Mendoza batting averages over the

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01:05:19,840 --> 01:05:20,680
Speaker 2: history of the Padres.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, immaculate grid is really fun because you could like

1300
01:05:23,320 --> 01:05:26,360
Speaker 10: get those deep pole Padres like Kevin Kuzmanov.

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01:05:27,120 --> 01:05:29,680
Speaker 3: I'm Kevin Kuzmanov. Oh yeah.

1302
01:05:29,840 --> 01:05:32,800
Speaker 2: And by the way, they've been filling up Peck which

1303
01:05:32,840 --> 01:05:35,479
Speaker 2: is a beautiful ballpark. If you ever have a chance

1304
01:05:35,480 --> 01:05:38,720
Speaker 2: to come to San Diego and go see a baseball game,

1305
01:05:39,160 --> 01:05:43,120
Speaker 2: you will get no better ballpark experience than Peco Park.

1306
01:05:43,560 --> 01:05:46,000
Speaker 2: And they're coming to watch this team. They're bowing them

1307
01:05:46,040 --> 01:05:47,560
Speaker 2: off the field, but they're still coming.

1308
01:05:47,720 --> 01:05:50,880
Speaker 10: I've only had seven non sellout games so far this season.

1309
01:05:51,000 --> 01:05:51,440
Speaker 3: Oh wow.

1310
01:05:51,560 --> 01:05:52,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, forty three out.

1311
01:05:52,680 --> 01:05:54,160
Speaker 10: Of fifty I think was the number there.

1312
01:05:54,240 --> 01:05:54,560
Speaker 3: Crazy.

1313
01:05:54,640 --> 01:05:57,080
Speaker 9: But here's the thing about Padres fans the very short tempered.

1314
01:05:57,120 --> 01:06:00,680
Speaker 9: So I was at a game last year and trying

1315
01:06:00,680 --> 01:06:03,760
Speaker 9: to get to my seat and I bumped into somebody accidentally,

1316
01:06:03,920 --> 01:06:06,280
Speaker 9: and the guy wanted to throw down with me. And

1317
01:06:06,320 --> 01:06:08,840
Speaker 9: that seemed to be a regular occurrence, Like people don't

1318
01:06:08,840 --> 01:06:10,800
Speaker 9: want to get up when you're trying to go into

1319
01:06:10,800 --> 01:06:15,120
Speaker 9: your seat mid row, and you know, there's this feeling.

1320
01:06:14,800 --> 01:06:19,120
Speaker 2: Like you's because they have fourteen different IPAs available.

1321
01:06:18,880 --> 01:06:21,840
Speaker 9: Yeah, but it's also that feeling all there's this feeling like,

1322
01:06:21,960 --> 01:06:24,400
Speaker 9: and I'm a Padre fan, and there's this feeling of

1323
01:06:24,520 --> 01:06:28,600
Speaker 9: like we've accomplished something as fans look at us when

1324
01:06:28,600 --> 01:06:31,400
Speaker 9: you haven't and the arrogance doesn't seem like it holds

1325
01:06:31,480 --> 01:06:34,560
Speaker 9: up to the level of accomplishments. And that seems to

1326
01:06:34,600 --> 01:06:38,880
Speaker 9: be the lingering mindset of traditional fans, especially when you

1327
01:06:38,880 --> 01:06:42,000
Speaker 9: go to Petco Park. So what I'm saying Carrie and

1328
01:06:42,400 --> 01:06:44,520
Speaker 9: Steve is that you go on Twitter or whatever you

1329
01:06:44,520 --> 01:06:46,800
Speaker 9: call it now x and you see these these fights

1330
01:06:46,800 --> 01:06:50,440
Speaker 9: and stadiums ye that go viral. I'm sure Petco Park

1331
01:06:50,880 --> 01:06:54,200
Speaker 9: leads the country in those viabor videos considering the way

1332
01:06:54,240 --> 01:06:57,360
Speaker 9: they're fans like to to do with Travis Kelce and

1333
01:06:57,440 --> 01:06:59,480
Speaker 9: just brawl at practice like he has lost.

1334
01:06:59,480 --> 01:07:01,840
Speaker 3: Couple of events be a staple of San Diego fans

1335
01:07:01,880 --> 01:07:05,040
Speaker 3: in general because that correlates to the football team as well.

1336
01:07:05,040 --> 01:07:07,280
Speaker 3: When they were in San Diego with the charges as well.

1337
01:07:07,760 --> 01:07:09,920
Speaker 3: At same type of arrogance of the of the of

1338
01:07:09,960 --> 01:07:12,280
Speaker 3: the fans, same thing. I always wonder this.

1339
01:07:12,560 --> 01:07:15,880
Speaker 2: I've said many times that no fans have suffered more

1340
01:07:15,880 --> 01:07:17,960
Speaker 2: than San Diego sports fans over the years, and no

1341
01:07:18,000 --> 01:07:20,400
Speaker 2: one takes it seriously because they say, well, what does

1342
01:07:20,440 --> 01:07:23,280
Speaker 2: it matter. You're living in San Diego. You can't be

1343
01:07:23,480 --> 01:07:26,720
Speaker 2: suffering and living in San Diego. The two words do

1344
01:07:26,800 --> 01:07:31,360
Speaker 2: not connect, no matter how many I said, Cleveland has

1345
01:07:31,400 --> 01:07:34,439
Speaker 2: had far greater success in sports in San Diego's hat.

1346
01:07:35,520 --> 01:07:37,920
Speaker 2: What a San Diego had one blowout loss in the

1347
01:07:37,920 --> 01:07:40,480
Speaker 2: Super Bowl and two blowout losses in the World Series.

1348
01:07:40,720 --> 01:07:44,320
Speaker 3: That is it. That's it, that is all they have.

1349
01:07:44,800 --> 01:07:45,960
Speaker 10: San Diego Soccers.

1350
01:07:48,240 --> 01:07:51,200
Speaker 3: What Ron Newman San Diego Goals?

1351
01:07:51,240 --> 01:07:53,080
Speaker 10: Baby Yeah Cup champions.

1352
01:07:53,120 --> 01:07:55,360
Speaker 2: I always said if the NHL, if the Goals became

1353
01:07:55,440 --> 01:07:57,680
Speaker 2: an NHL franchise, they'd be very successful.

1354
01:07:57,880 --> 01:07:58,840
Speaker 3: That they won't get it to me.

1355
01:07:59,160 --> 01:08:01,840
Speaker 9: Yeah, I've made it up in my mind guys that

1356
01:08:01,920 --> 01:08:04,680
Speaker 9: as a San Diego sports fan, I will never enjoy

1357
01:08:04,840 --> 01:08:07,400
Speaker 9: a title of any sort in my lifetime.

1358
01:08:07,440 --> 01:08:08,800
Speaker 3: And I've come to terms with that.

1359
01:08:09,000 --> 01:08:10,920
Speaker 9: And you plan on living to be one hundred and twenty,

1360
01:08:11,040 --> 01:08:13,280
Speaker 9: I do, so I've got quite a ways to go.

1361
01:08:13,640 --> 01:08:16,320
Speaker 9: But I've accepted that and we've already made peace. I

1362
01:08:16,320 --> 01:08:19,320
Speaker 9: have made peace with my higher power. And before I

1363
01:08:19,360 --> 01:08:22,240
Speaker 9: go any further, let's go into what's happening right now. Hey,

1364
01:08:22,240 --> 01:08:25,400
Speaker 9: we are hearing that there is a potential rumor that

1365
01:08:25,720 --> 01:08:28,040
Speaker 9: is now involved in a trade discussion. You guys were

1366
01:08:28,080 --> 01:08:31,759
Speaker 9: talking about MLB trade deadline. Mets and Arrangers, according to reports,

1367
01:08:31,800 --> 01:08:35,959
Speaker 9: are in deep discussions about a trade for Max Scherzer,

1368
01:08:36,320 --> 01:08:38,759
Speaker 9: is what we're hearing now. Keep in mind that Scherzer

1369
01:08:38,800 --> 01:08:41,680
Speaker 9: has a full note trade clause, so it would be

1370
01:08:41,720 --> 01:08:44,600
Speaker 9: up to him if this deal would be consummated. But

1371
01:08:44,640 --> 01:08:47,639
Speaker 9: there is something there. We do know that Mookie Betts

1372
01:08:47,760 --> 01:08:50,240
Speaker 9: is going to be out tonight for the Dodgers as

1373
01:08:50,280 --> 01:08:53,600
Speaker 9: they take on the Reds due to right ankle soreness.

1374
01:08:54,000 --> 01:08:55,800
Speaker 9: And just a couple of notes as far as game's

1375
01:08:55,840 --> 01:08:59,240
Speaker 9: going on right now. The Blue Jays and are upstage

1376
01:08:59,240 --> 01:09:01,000
Speaker 9: in the Angels three to one to the bottom of

1377
01:09:01,040 --> 01:09:01,519
Speaker 9: the seven.

1378
01:09:01,560 --> 01:09:03,520
Speaker 3: The Angels without their manager.

1379
01:09:03,400 --> 01:09:07,519
Speaker 9: Phil Nevin after his antics last night that they were

1380
01:09:07,520 --> 01:09:10,160
Speaker 9: directed at the umpires, So bottom of the seventh there

1381
01:09:10,479 --> 01:09:12,240
Speaker 9: and then top of the sixth in Miami game that

1382
01:09:12,280 --> 01:09:14,760
Speaker 9: you can watch right now on FS one where the

1383
01:09:14,880 --> 01:09:18,679
Speaker 9: Marlins are getting blasted by the Detroit Tigers three to nothing.

1384
01:09:18,720 --> 01:09:21,840
Speaker 9: That three run homer for Detroit came in the second inning.

1385
01:09:22,200 --> 01:09:25,120
Speaker 9: And I'll leave you with this, guys in that would

1386
01:09:25,120 --> 01:09:29,679
Speaker 9: be that veteran cornerback Eli Apple is going to the

1387
01:09:29,800 --> 01:09:33,519
Speaker 9: Miami Dolphins. This according to NFL Network, So some help

1388
01:09:33,520 --> 01:09:36,759
Speaker 9: in the secondary for the Dolphins. They've got Jalen Ramsey,

1389
01:09:36,800 --> 01:09:38,200
Speaker 9: but it sounds as if he's not going to be

1390
01:09:38,240 --> 01:09:43,759
Speaker 9: back until December. And they do get some assistants there,

1391
01:09:44,240 --> 01:09:48,280
Speaker 9: and already the team already excited about one cheetah for

1392
01:09:49,040 --> 01:09:52,320
Speaker 9: the Dolphins has already tweeted about his excitement in getting

1393
01:09:52,400 --> 01:09:54,479
Speaker 9: Eli Apple on his squad.

1394
01:09:55,400 --> 01:09:58,799
Speaker 2: Bitty really yeah, oh wow. I mean it's a good pickup.

1395
01:09:58,920 --> 01:10:00,880
Speaker 2: It's a safe pickup I can play.

1396
01:10:01,240 --> 01:10:04,759
Speaker 3: Obviously he has a lot of non success as well,

1397
01:10:05,320 --> 01:10:06,800
Speaker 3: but he's a good holdover right now.

1398
01:10:07,880 --> 01:10:10,479
Speaker 2: I don't think he's all that enthusiastic. I mean, that

1399
01:10:10,600 --> 01:10:14,080
Speaker 2: wasn't exactly a ringing endorsement there. If I'm playing football,

1400
01:10:14,360 --> 01:10:15,719
Speaker 2: I want to carry roads on my team.

1401
01:10:15,880 --> 01:10:22,879
Speaker 3: That's all I know. Carry was very underrated, very underrated.

1402
01:10:23,280 --> 01:10:25,599
Speaker 2: We were talking about this during one of our breaks

1403
01:10:25,600 --> 01:10:28,040
Speaker 2: here about how many Pro Bowls he should have made

1404
01:10:28,160 --> 01:10:29,360
Speaker 2: as a safety.

1405
01:10:30,000 --> 01:10:31,280
Speaker 3: This is the inequity.

1406
01:10:31,520 --> 01:10:34,760
Speaker 2: I had this conversation with Ephraim Salam as well, so

1407
01:10:34,960 --> 01:10:39,240
Speaker 2: wide receiver. They picked four Pro Bowlers, two starters, two backups.

1408
01:10:40,280 --> 01:10:43,080
Speaker 2: He had an offensive tackle. They only picked one backup.

1409
01:10:43,560 --> 01:10:48,040
Speaker 2: Why don't they have two cornerback They have two starters,

1410
01:10:48,040 --> 01:10:51,639
Speaker 2: two backups, but at safety they have a free safety,

1411
01:10:51,640 --> 01:10:54,120
Speaker 2: a strong safety and one backup.

1412
01:10:54,800 --> 01:10:56,840
Speaker 3: How many times were you an alternate every year?

1413
01:10:57,520 --> 01:10:57,800
Speaker 4: Six?

1414
01:10:58,160 --> 01:11:00,880
Speaker 2: Six times? And no one ever bailed out of the game,

1415
01:11:00,960 --> 01:11:04,240
Speaker 2: unlike quarterback. All the quarterbacks always bail out of the game.

1416
01:11:04,560 --> 01:11:07,600
Speaker 2: So you're end of the third, fifth, sixth. Who is

1417
01:11:07,640 --> 01:11:09,760
Speaker 2: it last year? Was the guy that took over for

1418
01:11:10,120 --> 01:11:11,680
Speaker 2: Lamar Jackson at quarterback?

1419
01:11:11,760 --> 01:11:11,960
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1420
01:11:12,040 --> 01:11:13,679
Speaker 9: I think I think they even tried to call John

1421
01:11:13,720 --> 01:11:15,479
Speaker 9: Kittna to come back quarterback.

1422
01:11:15,640 --> 01:11:19,000
Speaker 2: I mean, I mean, and all these quarterbacks get credit

1423
01:11:19,040 --> 01:11:20,160
Speaker 2: for being a Pro Bowler.

1424
01:11:21,560 --> 01:11:22,599
Speaker 3: Yeah, it sucks.

1425
01:11:22,760 --> 01:11:24,000
Speaker 2: You know. It's one of those things where you talking

1426
01:11:24,000 --> 01:11:27,120
Speaker 2: about careers being a Hall of Famer or been a.

1427
01:11:27,080 --> 01:11:30,720
Speaker 3: Really good player. Yeah, just by those stats. Yeah, that's

1428
01:11:30,800 --> 01:11:33,360
Speaker 3: six times pro bowler carry roads. It's a different ring

1429
01:11:33,479 --> 01:11:34,880
Speaker 3: to it. Yeah, exactly.

1430
01:11:35,240 --> 01:11:39,360
Speaker 2: So all right, very good, Beefen. We're gonna lay you

1431
01:11:39,400 --> 01:11:41,519
Speaker 2: to rest for just a moment, then we'll come.

1432
01:11:41,520 --> 01:11:42,120
Speaker 3: Right back to you.

1433
01:11:42,880 --> 01:11:44,800
Speaker 2: By the way, on the other side, I want to

1434
01:11:44,800 --> 01:11:49,000
Speaker 2: get to a show that's been on Netflix, Quarterback, and

1435
01:11:49,080 --> 01:11:51,960
Speaker 2: some of the problems that show is having right now

1436
01:11:52,240 --> 01:11:56,439
Speaker 2: and putting together a season two. But just wrapping up

1437
01:11:56,479 --> 01:11:59,720
Speaker 2: some of these baseball trade rumors. Man, let me just

1438
01:11:59,720 --> 01:12:03,720
Speaker 2: get you overview on baseball in general. You know, we

1439
01:12:04,200 --> 01:12:11,280
Speaker 2: are in a time where nothing seems to be sacred anymore.

1440
01:12:12,840 --> 01:12:15,400
Speaker 2: I mean that's almost across the board for sure. You know,

1441
01:12:15,439 --> 01:12:19,280
Speaker 2: there were there are certain aspects of our lifestyle or

1442
01:12:19,680 --> 01:12:23,439
Speaker 2: Americana that seemed to be etched in stone that are

1443
01:12:23,479 --> 01:12:26,800
Speaker 2: being erased. There seems to be an effort to that.

1444
01:12:28,240 --> 01:12:33,360
Speaker 2: Baseball's been around a long time eighteen sixty nine. The

1445
01:12:33,479 --> 01:12:37,840
Speaker 2: National League was born when Ulysses S. Grant was president

1446
01:12:39,520 --> 01:12:40,639
Speaker 2: eighteen seventy six.

1447
01:12:40,840 --> 01:12:42,719
Speaker 3: Long time ago. That was a long time ago.

1448
01:12:43,120 --> 01:12:46,240
Speaker 2: The America ly was born in nineteen oh one, and

1449
01:12:46,320 --> 01:12:49,599
Speaker 2: with it back in the day, long before professional football,

1450
01:12:49,640 --> 01:12:52,920
Speaker 2: and of course basketballn't hadn't been invented yet at the time,

1451
01:12:53,479 --> 01:12:56,400
Speaker 2: baseball really ruled the world. So the idea of having

1452
01:12:56,640 --> 01:12:59,200
Speaker 2: one hundred and forty games scheduled and one hundred and

1453
01:12:59,240 --> 01:13:03,160
Speaker 2: fifty games on hundred sixty games just made sense because

1454
01:13:03,200 --> 01:13:06,360
Speaker 2: it really was the only show in town. Even when

1455
01:13:06,400 --> 01:13:08,360
Speaker 2: I was a kid growing up in the sixties, in

1456
01:13:08,400 --> 01:13:11,360
Speaker 2: the early seventies, baseball ruled. I mean, baseball was a

1457
01:13:11,840 --> 01:13:16,760
Speaker 2: much higher level than certainly any other professional sport. But

1458
01:13:16,800 --> 01:13:20,880
Speaker 2: it's no longer the case. The season is endless, too long.

1459
01:13:21,520 --> 01:13:24,040
Speaker 2: It's endless, and it's every day, and it lasts for

1460
01:13:24,120 --> 01:13:26,639
Speaker 2: six months, one hundred and sixty two games, and then

1461
01:13:26,840 --> 01:13:30,080
Speaker 2: you added more rounds to your playoffs. I mean, originally

1462
01:13:30,200 --> 01:13:31,880
Speaker 2: you had one hundred and sixty two games, you had

1463
01:13:31,920 --> 01:13:34,519
Speaker 2: two leagues. There were no divisions, so you had two

1464
01:13:34,600 --> 01:13:37,479
Speaker 2: teams that would end up in the World Series season over.

1465
01:13:38,040 --> 01:13:40,400
Speaker 2: But now you've got wild card games and everything. So

1466
01:13:40,439 --> 01:13:46,960
Speaker 2: the season now pushing into November. Would you recommend to

1467
01:13:47,000 --> 01:13:52,000
Speaker 2: Major League Baseball that they listen to what most people say,

1468
01:13:52,560 --> 01:13:55,400
Speaker 2: unless you are a die hard baseball fan saying, well,

1469
01:13:55,439 --> 01:13:57,519
Speaker 2: if you shorten a season, the record book.

1470
01:13:57,960 --> 01:14:00,920
Speaker 3: Enough with the record book. Yeah, yeah, okay, yeah.

1471
01:14:01,120 --> 01:14:05,280
Speaker 2: We're talking about making your sport more appealing, more marketable.

1472
01:14:05,880 --> 01:14:09,840
Speaker 2: Would you be adverse or a proponent of shortening the

1473
01:14:09,880 --> 01:14:15,880
Speaker 2: baseball schedule as a fan, because I do. I am

1474
01:14:15,920 --> 01:14:18,920
Speaker 2: a fan of baseball as well. I'm an avid Yankee fan.

1475
01:14:19,000 --> 01:14:20,559
Speaker 2: I don't think I've ever told you that yet, but

1476
01:14:20,640 --> 01:14:26,280
Speaker 2: now you know. I really enjoy the purity of what

1477
01:14:26,360 --> 01:14:32,080
Speaker 2: baseball brings. It's America's pastime, right, That's the moniker it's

1478
01:14:32,120 --> 01:14:35,000
Speaker 2: had forever. And I think with that, I am a

1479
01:14:35,120 --> 01:14:38,760
Speaker 2: purist with the people that say, if you change the

1480
01:14:38,800 --> 01:14:41,400
Speaker 2: game and you shorten it, then the stats are irrelevant,

1481
01:14:41,400 --> 01:14:45,479
Speaker 2: and all these things are very much true. I don't

1482
01:14:45,479 --> 01:14:51,160
Speaker 2: know if there's a way to shorten it where the

1483
01:14:51,240 --> 01:14:56,519
Speaker 2: excitement grows immensely anyway, So I don't know. You shorten

1484
01:14:56,600 --> 01:14:59,320
Speaker 2: the games with this pitching clock, which I'm for sure

1485
01:14:59,520 --> 01:15:04,000
Speaker 2: the first I saw a running clock this season when

1486
01:15:04,040 --> 01:15:06,200
Speaker 2: I went out to Dodgers Stadium. It was a shock

1487
01:15:06,680 --> 01:15:09,959
Speaker 2: because it never been a clock before in Major League Baseball.

1488
01:15:10,720 --> 01:15:14,760
Speaker 2: It's working, yeah, it's working. Gains have been shortened by

1489
01:15:14,760 --> 01:15:17,080
Speaker 2: an average a half an hour game, yep. Makes the

1490
01:15:17,080 --> 01:15:19,519
Speaker 2: game more appealing, all right. Coming up on the other side,

1491
01:15:19,680 --> 01:15:22,599
Speaker 2: it's been a hit series on Netflix, but will there

1492
01:15:22,680 --> 01:15:26,439
Speaker 2: be a season two? We're talking Quarterback. This is Fox

1493
01:15:26,479 --> 01:15:31,400
Speaker 2: Sports Saturday, Steve Harman and Kerrie Rhodes Fox Sports Saturday,

1494
01:15:31,439 --> 01:15:35,479
Speaker 2: coming live from the tay Iraq dot Com studios. So

1495
01:15:35,560 --> 01:15:39,040
Speaker 2: I just finished the final episode of Quarterback on Netflix

1496
01:15:39,120 --> 01:15:42,760
Speaker 2: eight episodes. Was really well done. If you don't know

1497
01:15:42,800 --> 01:15:45,720
Speaker 2: about the show, they followed three NFL quarterbacks through their

1498
01:15:45,880 --> 01:15:49,440
Speaker 2: entire twenty twenty two season. That would be Patrick Mahomes,

1499
01:15:49,880 --> 01:15:53,080
Speaker 2: Kirk Cousins, and Marcus Mariota. And they all have very

1500
01:15:53,080 --> 01:15:55,519
Speaker 2: different seasons, so it could not have worked out any

1501
01:15:55,520 --> 01:15:58,639
Speaker 2: better for them, especially capping off with you know, Mahomes

1502
01:15:58,680 --> 01:16:01,559
Speaker 2: winning the Super Bowl and then courts the unexpected success

1503
01:16:01,600 --> 01:16:05,360
Speaker 2: of the Vikings with Kirk Cousins, and then Mariota, you know,

1504
01:16:05,479 --> 01:16:07,519
Speaker 2: looking for a new lease on life in Atlanta, and

1505
01:16:07,560 --> 01:16:09,719
Speaker 2: then of course they pulled the plug on his season.

1506
01:16:09,840 --> 01:16:12,559
Speaker 2: He just basically walks away from the team. The other

1507
01:16:12,600 --> 01:16:15,720
Speaker 2: thing about this show is it's all inclusive, so they

1508
01:16:15,760 --> 01:16:20,760
Speaker 2: follow literally their home life as closely as what they're

1509
01:16:20,800 --> 01:16:24,960
Speaker 2: doing on the football field, and we got behind the

1510
01:16:25,000 --> 01:16:29,320
Speaker 2: scenes stuff of their training interaction with coaches. All three

1511
01:16:29,360 --> 01:16:31,519
Speaker 2: head coaches were very much a part of this thing.

1512
01:16:31,640 --> 01:16:35,400
Speaker 2: So really it came off perfectly. So with all this success,

1513
01:16:35,680 --> 01:16:38,360
Speaker 2: they want to do a season two. The problem is

1514
01:16:38,439 --> 01:16:42,439
Speaker 2: every quarterback they're talking to has said no. Like I'm

1515
01:16:42,439 --> 01:16:45,120
Speaker 2: going over a list now, some of the recent names

1516
01:16:45,160 --> 01:16:47,160
Speaker 2: to a tongue of Ilois said he loved the show.

1517
01:16:47,400 --> 01:16:47,960
Speaker 3: He said no.

1518
01:16:48,920 --> 01:16:51,920
Speaker 2: Sam Howe, like they're trying to get Sam Howe to

1519
01:16:52,000 --> 01:16:55,599
Speaker 2: do the show, he said no. Justin Field said no.

1520
01:16:55,920 --> 01:16:59,200
Speaker 2: Matthew Stafford said no. Jalen hurts it. They can't get

1521
01:16:59,200 --> 01:17:03,720
Speaker 2: a quarterback, all right, so forget maybe rechange the name.

1522
01:17:05,000 --> 01:17:09,960
Speaker 2: If you were to pick a position, just a position

1523
01:17:10,080 --> 01:17:13,880
Speaker 2: that would be most intriguing to follow outside of quarterback,

1524
01:17:14,560 --> 01:17:16,120
Speaker 2: which position.

1525
01:17:15,800 --> 01:17:17,640
Speaker 3: Would it be? It would be the O line, O

1526
01:17:17,800 --> 01:17:18,759
Speaker 3: line or D line?

1527
01:17:18,960 --> 01:17:22,879
Speaker 2: Really, yes, so let's say it was instead of quarterback,

1528
01:17:22,920 --> 01:17:27,280
Speaker 2: it's offensive tackle. Can you give me a couple of

1529
01:17:27,280 --> 01:17:29,760
Speaker 2: offensive tackles you'd like to pull back? The curtain on

1530
01:17:29,920 --> 01:17:32,840
Speaker 2: doesn't have the same ring, No, it doesn't. But again,

1531
01:17:32,840 --> 01:17:36,680
Speaker 2: I'm but I'm telling you, yeah, those guys are so

1532
01:17:36,800 --> 01:17:40,560
Speaker 2: interesting and they're so and there's even though they're like that,

1533
01:17:40,760 --> 01:17:44,480
Speaker 2: you get this picture of them being like the Neanderthals

1534
01:17:44,600 --> 01:17:48,080
Speaker 2: or the or the brutes or whatever you name. The

1535
01:17:48,120 --> 01:17:53,080
Speaker 2: big guys in the trenches. There's so there's so many savants.

1536
01:17:53,680 --> 01:17:56,880
Speaker 2: Give me a team of years offensive lineman that just

1537
01:17:56,960 --> 01:17:59,519
Speaker 2: sort of well, one that I would probably throw out

1538
01:17:59,520 --> 01:18:02,880
Speaker 2: there would be the brickishaw Fercus the Brickisheffer.

1539
01:18:02,920 --> 01:18:05,800
Speaker 3: Remember that name. What a great name, right, he was

1540
01:18:05,880 --> 01:18:10,120
Speaker 3: such a mild manner guy off the field and somebody

1541
01:18:10,120 --> 01:18:12,680
Speaker 3: that was super smart, gentle giant that part, but on

1542
01:18:12,720 --> 01:18:15,400
Speaker 3: the field of beast and animal all the same things.

1543
01:18:15,479 --> 01:18:19,439
Speaker 3: So just being able to differentiate between the two characters

1544
01:18:19,479 --> 01:18:21,760
Speaker 3: that he has to play most times to get that

1545
01:18:21,800 --> 01:18:23,280
Speaker 3: caught would be pretty.

1546
01:18:23,000 --> 01:18:27,000
Speaker 2: Remarkable, especially because a lot of offensive linemen are married. Yes,

1547
01:18:27,840 --> 01:18:32,280
Speaker 2: they don't stress offensive the ones. I mean, there were

1548
01:18:32,280 --> 01:18:36,640
Speaker 2: always few exceptions, but usually they're pretty homebody, you know,

1549
01:18:37,080 --> 01:18:39,639
Speaker 2: and you know, like you say, you see the one

1550
01:18:39,680 --> 01:18:41,760
Speaker 2: guy on the field, it's going to be wrestling with

1551
01:18:41,800 --> 01:18:44,519
Speaker 2: a three hundred and twenty pounds bar for an entire game,

1552
01:18:45,280 --> 01:18:46,360
Speaker 2: and then they get home.

1553
01:18:46,240 --> 01:18:49,640
Speaker 3: They're holding their little giants and like that. I like that.

1554
01:18:49,640 --> 01:18:50,040
Speaker 4: I like that.

1555
01:18:50,360 --> 01:18:52,880
Speaker 3: I mean, obviously the normal thing would be like a

1556
01:18:52,920 --> 01:18:54,760
Speaker 3: cornerback or or receiver, but.

1557
01:18:55,120 --> 01:18:57,559
Speaker 2: Well they're actually talking now they may have to open

1558
01:18:57,640 --> 01:18:59,880
Speaker 2: up to other positions. So if we were to go

1559
01:19:00,080 --> 01:19:03,040
Speaker 2: back to carry rhads jets days and you were being

1560
01:19:03,120 --> 01:19:05,600
Speaker 2: followed twenty four hours a day during the course of

1561
01:19:05,640 --> 01:19:09,880
Speaker 2: an entire NFL season, would we see a much different.

1562
01:19:09,600 --> 01:19:12,280
Speaker 3: Carry Roads than we have known over the years.

1563
01:19:12,600 --> 01:19:15,080
Speaker 2: No, because I'm a guy that's kind of true to

1564
01:19:15,080 --> 01:19:16,760
Speaker 2: my guns and who I am. That's who I am

1565
01:19:16,920 --> 01:19:19,479
Speaker 2: normally in general. To be comfortable with somebody following your

1566
01:19:19,479 --> 01:19:22,360
Speaker 2: home life you're twenty four to seven.

1567
01:19:22,640 --> 01:19:25,720
Speaker 3: They could, but I don't. I'm not sure that I

1568
01:19:25,760 --> 01:19:27,519
Speaker 3: would want that to happen all the time.

1569
01:19:27,600 --> 01:19:31,160
Speaker 2: See, in this case, all three wives, all these quarterbacks

1570
01:19:31,200 --> 01:19:33,439
Speaker 2: are married, seem very comfortable with it.

1571
01:19:33,560 --> 01:19:34,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, they were.

1572
01:19:34,760 --> 01:19:37,840
Speaker 2: Russell Wilson seems to be an obvious choice because you know,

1573
01:19:38,000 --> 01:19:41,120
Speaker 2: his wife is very She's used to the spotlight.

1574
01:19:41,200 --> 01:19:42,240
Speaker 3: She's used to the spotlight.

1575
01:19:42,280 --> 01:19:44,280
Speaker 2: She seeks the spot that's part of her job.

1576
01:19:44,360 --> 01:19:45,160
Speaker 3: That's part of a job.

1577
01:19:45,240 --> 01:19:47,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, but right now they are really struggling to find

1578
01:19:47,920 --> 01:19:48,599
Speaker 2: anybody else.

1579
01:19:48,720 --> 01:19:48,880
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1580
01:19:48,880 --> 01:19:50,760
Speaker 3: I think Dak Prescott also turned it down. I don't

1581
01:19:50,760 --> 01:19:52,200
Speaker 3: know if that was all this, but I think he

1582
01:19:52,240 --> 01:19:52,840
Speaker 3: did as well.

1583
01:19:53,000 --> 01:19:56,280
Speaker 2: That's pretty much they didn't mention Aaron Rodgers, Josh Allen

1584
01:19:56,479 --> 01:20:00,559
Speaker 2: Josh Allen, Justin Herbert. Anybody just seem like you wouldn't

1585
01:20:00,560 --> 01:20:02,360
Speaker 2: do it. See if it was a single guy. I

1586
01:20:02,360 --> 01:20:05,639
Speaker 2: don't want to be follow around as a single guy, right, Yeah,

1587
01:20:05,640 --> 01:20:06,960
Speaker 2: it might be some things out there.

1588
01:20:07,080 --> 01:20:09,639
Speaker 3: Adam Kavlan are insider joins us Coming up next.

1589
01:20:09,880 --> 01:20:12,760
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Speaker 2: should be all right. So this Max Schurzer deal that

1600
01:20:43,320 --> 01:20:46,280
Speaker 2: may be happening. It's been an interesting year for the Mets.

1601
01:20:46,360 --> 01:20:48,920
Speaker 2: Right when we talked about the Podreys earlier, the Mets

1602
01:20:48,920 --> 01:20:51,720
Speaker 2: won one hundred and one games a year ago, and

1603
01:20:51,760 --> 01:20:54,200
Speaker 2: you had Scherzer who had a great season a year

1604
01:20:54,240 --> 01:20:57,080
Speaker 2: ago for the Mets. Uh, you finally got rid of

1605
01:20:57,160 --> 01:20:59,799
Speaker 2: de Gram, which was the right thing to do because

1606
01:21:00,080 --> 01:21:03,920
Speaker 2: he just can't stay healthy. Verlander, who they acquired after

1607
01:21:03,960 --> 01:21:06,839
Speaker 2: winning the Cy Young last year, and Houston struggled early,

1608
01:21:07,680 --> 01:21:10,719
Speaker 2: but recently he's pitched well. I think in his last

1609
01:21:10,760 --> 01:21:13,280
Speaker 2: six starts he's like four and one within the ra

1610
01:21:13,400 --> 01:21:15,640
Speaker 2: about one point six. You know, when I look at

1611
01:21:15,640 --> 01:21:19,400
Speaker 2: guys like Schurzer and Verlander and some of their early

1612
01:21:19,479 --> 01:21:22,000
Speaker 2: struggles this year, I think the pitch clock had an.

1613
01:21:21,880 --> 01:21:24,200
Speaker 3: Effect on them. Yeah, I agree.

1614
01:21:24,200 --> 01:21:26,800
Speaker 2: I think if you're a veteran pitcher and you're so

1615
01:21:26,960 --> 01:21:29,000
Speaker 2: used to doing I mean, they are exceptions. I mean

1616
01:21:29,080 --> 01:21:31,679
Speaker 2: kersh obviously didn't seem too affected by it this year,

1617
01:21:31,720 --> 01:21:35,360
Speaker 2: but I would imagine if you are a veteran pitcher,

1618
01:21:36,000 --> 01:21:38,680
Speaker 2: the adjustment to the clock might have been more pronounced.

1619
01:21:38,800 --> 01:21:40,439
Speaker 3: For sure, because there are a lot of guys, not

1620
01:21:40,479 --> 01:21:42,759
Speaker 3: even just those two you name, but like a nasty

1621
01:21:42,800 --> 01:21:45,080
Speaker 3: nest of Cortez right right, he's a guy that likes

1622
01:21:45,120 --> 01:21:48,880
Speaker 3: to play with batters, throw at unusual timing, and he's

1623
01:21:48,880 --> 01:21:51,519
Speaker 3: told it, he does it all all the stuff, so

1624
01:21:51,600 --> 01:21:53,760
Speaker 3: he's been messed up for sure. It definitely has had

1625
01:21:53,760 --> 01:21:54,800
Speaker 3: an effect on those guys.

1626
01:21:54,920 --> 01:21:58,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, so this this, If I'm Schurzer, why would you

1627
01:21:58,720 --> 01:22:01,719
Speaker 2: not make this deal. I mean, the Rangers are in contention.

1628
01:22:01,840 --> 01:22:03,160
Speaker 3: The Mets aren't going anywhere.

1629
01:22:03,640 --> 01:22:05,599
Speaker 2: Uh So if I was Max Sure's, I would take

1630
01:22:05,640 --> 01:22:08,880
Speaker 2: advantage of this and get myself into the playoff picture

1631
01:22:08,920 --> 01:22:10,160
Speaker 2: with the Texas Rangers.

1632
01:22:10,800 --> 01:22:11,000
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1633
01:22:11,040 --> 01:22:13,679
Speaker 2: I kept thinking about this because the Mets. You figured,

1634
01:22:13,720 --> 01:22:15,760
Speaker 2: all right, Chures is coming off another good year, no

1635
01:22:15,880 --> 01:22:18,519
Speaker 2: slow down in his pitching. You pick up Verlinder, who

1636
01:22:18,520 --> 01:22:21,280
Speaker 2: had an unbelievable year last year, winning the side young

1637
01:22:21,360 --> 01:22:23,760
Speaker 2: for Houston. Two guys that know how to get it done,

1638
01:22:23,840 --> 01:22:27,200
Speaker 2: by the way, paying each forty three million dollars this year.

1639
01:22:28,000 --> 01:22:30,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, They've been a disappointment for sure, but they seem

1640
01:22:30,040 --> 01:22:32,320
Speaker 3: to always beat my Yankees right now, so it doesn't

1641
01:22:32,320 --> 01:22:35,280
Speaker 3: matter how bad they've been. They've won the Subway Series.

1642
01:22:35,320 --> 01:22:38,559
Speaker 3: But no, the Mets have been definitely a disappointment. And

1643
01:22:38,600 --> 01:22:42,280
Speaker 3: then for Surezer and Verlander, the numbers are on the

1644
01:22:42,280 --> 01:22:46,040
Speaker 3: trend to the right. Yeah, but it's it's been a

1645
01:22:46,040 --> 01:22:48,639
Speaker 3: disasterble season for them. So you've always been a Yankee fan.

1646
01:22:48,840 --> 01:22:49,920
Speaker 3: I've always been a Yankee fan.

1647
01:22:49,920 --> 01:22:52,840
Speaker 2: I mean this goes back to Jeter and the whole oh.

1648
01:22:52,840 --> 01:22:54,599
Speaker 3: Yeah, the captain, Yeah, all those guys.

1649
01:22:54,800 --> 01:22:58,000
Speaker 2: It was a more valuable Yankee Derek Jeter or Mariano

1650
01:22:58,080 --> 01:23:00,480
Speaker 2: Rivera who was more value?

1651
01:23:00,760 --> 01:23:01,760
Speaker 3: Oh, don't do that to me.

1652
01:23:03,520 --> 01:23:05,559
Speaker 2: The reason I asked, I mean, I'm good with these

1653
01:23:05,640 --> 01:23:07,519
Speaker 2: questions on this one. You know what, the most you

1654
01:23:07,560 --> 01:23:10,280
Speaker 2: want to hear from a Yankee who was more valuable

1655
01:23:10,360 --> 01:23:11,719
Speaker 2: to those Yankees teams?

1656
01:23:11,800 --> 01:23:15,920
Speaker 3: Jeter or Rivera? Rivera for sure. I mean without Rivera,

1657
01:23:16,200 --> 01:23:19,519
Speaker 3: obviously this is the dynasty doesn't take place. Jeter was

1658
01:23:19,520 --> 01:23:22,200
Speaker 3: always a guy that was consistent, is gonna show up,

1659
01:23:22,200 --> 01:23:25,040
Speaker 3: and obviously the heart and soul of that team. But

1660
01:23:25,160 --> 01:23:29,560
Speaker 3: when you talk about the actual factuals, Mariano Rivera was

1661
01:23:29,600 --> 01:23:31,960
Speaker 3: the guy that came in the sandman closed things down.

1662
01:23:32,120 --> 01:23:32,439
Speaker 3: He did.

1663
01:23:32,479 --> 01:23:34,679
Speaker 2: I mean, when you talk about a career postseason era

1664
01:23:34,960 --> 01:23:38,160
Speaker 2: under one, that's crazy, Hee Blue, Game seven of the

1665
01:23:38,160 --> 01:23:40,120
Speaker 2: two thousand and one World Series, did he not?

1666
01:23:40,560 --> 01:23:42,400
Speaker 3: Don't you do that? Steve all right? Yes?

1667
01:23:42,520 --> 01:23:44,720
Speaker 2: By the way, were you embarrassed that Jeter won five

1668
01:23:44,760 --> 01:23:47,800
Speaker 2: Gold Gloves knowing he was the worst fielding shortstop in

1669
01:23:47,840 --> 01:23:49,120
Speaker 2: Major League Baseball history?

1670
01:23:49,960 --> 01:23:51,240
Speaker 3: I mean, the numbers don't lie.

1671
01:23:52,280 --> 01:23:54,760
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna go there, shouldn't Hey, Rod, who was

1672
01:23:54,800 --> 01:23:59,840
Speaker 2: a fastly superior shortstop, than playing shortstop and moved Jeter.

1673
01:23:59,640 --> 01:24:03,200
Speaker 3: To You're not gonna mess up and disrupt what the

1674
01:24:03,200 --> 01:24:05,639
Speaker 3: captain has going over there, Steve, Nope, I'm not going

1675
01:24:05,680 --> 01:24:09,360
Speaker 3: there with you. And I love Jeeter's a hell of

1676
01:24:09,360 --> 01:24:09,719
Speaker 3: a hitter.

1677
01:24:09,800 --> 01:24:13,400
Speaker 2: I mean, his numbers speak for themselves, but his his

1678
01:24:13,400 --> 01:24:18,599
Speaker 2: his defensive numbers are historically bad. My worst ever.

1679
01:24:18,760 --> 01:24:20,479
Speaker 3: All our remember is the one he's diving in the

1680
01:24:20,560 --> 01:24:25,280
Speaker 3: chairs and he's he's bloody after making the catchy. Yeah.

1681
01:24:25,320 --> 01:24:27,920
Speaker 2: Those are a couple of highlights there, all right, So

1682
01:24:27,920 --> 01:24:31,280
Speaker 2: we're gonna keep our eyether. I hope anytime we have

1683
01:24:31,320 --> 01:24:34,240
Speaker 2: a trade deadline, I'm always like, you know, please, let's

1684
01:24:34,240 --> 01:24:37,280
Speaker 2: get some deals done. Show Hey, Otani will not get traded.

1685
01:24:37,320 --> 01:24:41,120
Speaker 2: That's a wise move. But Dodgers in conversation, by the way,

1686
01:24:40,920 --> 01:24:43,240
Speaker 2: that you know, we talk about teams like the Mets

1687
01:24:43,280 --> 01:24:46,040
Speaker 2: and the Podres. Right so, right now, the Podres are

1688
01:24:46,080 --> 01:24:47,880
Speaker 2: six games out of the wild Card. The Mets are

1689
01:24:47,920 --> 01:24:50,559
Speaker 2: six and a half. Cubs were right there, and then

1690
01:24:50,880 --> 01:24:54,640
Speaker 2: what happened. The Cubs rattle off seven straight wins. Now,

1691
01:24:54,640 --> 01:24:56,640
Speaker 2: all of a sudden, the Cubs are in the conversation.

1692
01:24:56,920 --> 01:24:59,000
Speaker 3: I know they were talking about the Cubs possibly being

1693
01:24:59,240 --> 01:25:02,080
Speaker 3: sellers at the t the absolute sellers.

1694
01:25:02,120 --> 01:25:04,400
Speaker 2: They and the now White Sox are done, so they're

1695
01:25:04,439 --> 01:25:07,960
Speaker 2: definitely selling. But the Cobs a won seven in a row.

1696
01:25:08,200 --> 01:25:10,400
Speaker 2: What about the balanced back year for Bellinger? He's hitting

1697
01:25:10,400 --> 01:25:12,880
Speaker 2: the ball a ton out there in the Cup with

1698
01:25:12,920 --> 01:25:15,840
Speaker 2: the Cubs. Well, you're not quite the numbers he bad

1699
01:25:15,880 --> 01:25:18,320
Speaker 2: with the Dodgers, but certainly better than those last couple

1700
01:25:18,360 --> 01:25:18,639
Speaker 2: of years.

1701
01:25:18,640 --> 01:25:21,440
Speaker 3: He's just lost it.

1702
01:25:20,600 --> 01:25:24,760
Speaker 2: Maybe, I mean, I mean, I've seen guys slump, yeah,

1703
01:25:24,960 --> 01:25:30,240
Speaker 2: or have off seasons, but he just completely lost the

1704
01:25:30,280 --> 01:25:31,720
Speaker 2: ability to hit the baseball.

1705
01:25:31,800 --> 01:25:33,920
Speaker 3: But the thing with Bellinger that would be the case,

1706
01:25:33,960 --> 01:25:36,680
Speaker 3: but he would step up in the postseason though for

1707
01:25:36,840 --> 01:25:40,920
Speaker 3: sort of don't don't even Cody.

1708
01:25:40,960 --> 01:25:44,479
Speaker 2: Bellinger's World Series numbers and the three World Series he

1709
01:25:44,520 --> 01:25:47,560
Speaker 2: played with the Dodgers are some of the most staggnantly

1710
01:25:47,600 --> 01:25:51,920
Speaker 2: bad stats ever, Like he struck out five times as

1711
01:25:51,920 --> 01:25:53,200
Speaker 2: many times as he had hits.

1712
01:25:53,479 --> 01:25:56,360
Speaker 3: Wow, but he would make the big one though. It

1713
01:25:56,840 --> 01:25:57,559
Speaker 3: seems like that.

1714
01:25:57,640 --> 01:26:01,519
Speaker 2: I love how you have selected No. Yeah, I remember

1715
01:26:01,600 --> 01:26:04,760
Speaker 2: this one home run like that was it?

1716
01:26:04,880 --> 01:26:07,080
Speaker 3: That was the one? It won won the World's service.

1717
01:26:10,760 --> 01:26:14,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, not exactly all right, Well, Adam Kaplan's gonna be

1718
01:26:14,720 --> 01:26:17,320
Speaker 2: joining us here shortly. We're gonna get an update on

1719
01:26:17,520 --> 01:26:20,439
Speaker 2: NFL training cat So I asked you earlier about wanting

1720
01:26:20,479 --> 01:26:23,000
Speaker 2: to be at an NFL training camp. Ye, you were

1721
01:26:23,000 --> 01:26:25,599
Speaker 2: shaking your head no before I even got the answer out.

1722
01:26:25,680 --> 01:26:28,680
Speaker 2: But I mean, just just from Afar not attending a

1723
01:26:28,760 --> 01:26:32,240
Speaker 2: training camp. As training camps are now open across this league,

1724
01:26:32,520 --> 01:26:34,719
Speaker 2: which ones are most intriguing to you right now?

1725
01:26:34,800 --> 01:26:37,439
Speaker 3: The most intriguing right now for me obviously outside of

1726
01:26:37,479 --> 01:26:40,240
Speaker 3: the Jets, which we all have kind of been, you know,

1727
01:26:40,479 --> 01:26:43,960
Speaker 3: kind of conditioned to worry about it. Yeah, yeah, Yeah,

1728
01:26:44,040 --> 01:26:47,479
Speaker 3: I think it's Baltimore, the Lamar Jackson story, getting the

1729
01:26:47,520 --> 01:26:50,240
Speaker 3: weapons that he has now and actually being able to

1730
01:26:50,360 --> 01:26:53,000
Speaker 3: quiet that part of the process. Now he has the weapons,

1731
01:26:53,560 --> 01:26:55,760
Speaker 3: what does that translate to? What does that look like

1732
01:26:55,880 --> 01:26:57,840
Speaker 3: on the field? They all stay healthy. So that's one

1733
01:26:57,880 --> 01:26:59,680
Speaker 3: that I'm playing close attention to.

1734
01:26:59,800 --> 01:27:02,320
Speaker 2: One I'm sort of looking at is New England.

1735
01:27:03,479 --> 01:27:04,880
Speaker 3: I mean, whether.

1736
01:27:04,680 --> 01:27:07,520
Speaker 2: Belichick wants to believe it or not, they're at the crossroads.

1737
01:27:08,520 --> 01:27:12,160
Speaker 2: This is year four since Brady left, and two of

1738
01:27:12,160 --> 01:27:15,320
Speaker 2: those years have been losing seasons and one was a

1739
01:27:15,360 --> 01:27:17,800
Speaker 2: one and done in the postseason. He has won a

1740
01:27:17,880 --> 01:27:21,280
Speaker 2: playoff game since they won that last Super Bowl, so

1741
01:27:21,280 --> 01:27:25,400
Speaker 2: that's five years ago. You bring Bill O'Brien back as

1742
01:27:25,439 --> 01:27:27,720
Speaker 2: your offensive coordinator, so at least you give yourself a

1743
01:27:27,800 --> 01:27:29,400
Speaker 2: legitimate offensive coordinator.

1744
01:27:29,800 --> 01:27:32,240
Speaker 3: Like a year ago with Matt Patricia, I'm trying to

1745
01:27:32,320 --> 01:27:34,880
Speaker 3: run the offense. That was just I don't even know

1746
01:27:34,920 --> 01:27:35,439
Speaker 3: what that was.

1747
01:27:35,840 --> 01:27:38,360
Speaker 2: And then the question about mac Jones is did he

1748
01:27:38,479 --> 01:27:42,400
Speaker 2: regress because they didn't have an offensive coordinator or did

1749
01:27:42,439 --> 01:27:46,240
Speaker 2: he not regress because he's already hit his ceiling. Yeah,

1750
01:27:46,720 --> 01:27:49,200
Speaker 2: not just what he's capable of doing in this league.

1751
01:27:49,280 --> 01:27:50,559
Speaker 2: I guess we're going to find out this year.

1752
01:27:50,600 --> 01:27:50,760
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1753
01:27:50,760 --> 01:27:52,080
Speaker 2: I don't think that's the case. I mean it's too

1754
01:27:52,080 --> 01:27:54,479
Speaker 2: early to say that. I mean it's year three. He

1755
01:27:54,600 --> 01:27:57,800
Speaker 2: had one good year one down year. Usually, don't you know, though,

1756
01:27:57,840 --> 01:28:03,840
Speaker 2: by year three for most players, I mean there's always exceptions, right,

1757
01:28:03,880 --> 01:28:06,920
Speaker 2: I mentioned Dan Fouts. Dan Fouts there was no sign

1758
01:28:07,000 --> 01:28:08,760
Speaker 2: in his first five years that he was going to

1759
01:28:08,840 --> 01:28:12,360
Speaker 2: be anything other than just a guy. And then Don

1760
01:28:12,439 --> 01:28:14,640
Speaker 2: Coriel came in, changed the offense and he's in the

1761
01:28:14,680 --> 01:28:17,200
Speaker 2: Hall of Fame. So there are exceptions to every rule.

1762
01:28:17,240 --> 01:28:20,400
Speaker 2: But usually yeah, but Matt about three years in he

1763
01:28:20,439 --> 01:28:21,799
Speaker 2: can tell whether guy belongs.

1764
01:28:21,920 --> 01:28:26,760
Speaker 3: Sure he belongs. Matt Jones isn't someone that's a superior

1765
01:28:26,800 --> 01:28:30,400
Speaker 3: at anything that he does, right, So you're gonna have

1766
01:28:30,439 --> 01:28:33,800
Speaker 3: to craft we talked about earlier, like craft in an

1767
01:28:33,840 --> 01:28:37,599
Speaker 3: offense around the strength that he has. I don't know

1768
01:28:37,800 --> 01:28:40,400
Speaker 3: exactly what those are at the moment because it's been

1769
01:28:40,479 --> 01:28:43,160
Speaker 3: up and down. But that's what you bring a Bill

1770
01:28:43,160 --> 01:28:46,240
Speaker 3: O'Brien in for to kind of pencil those things that

1771
01:28:46,280 --> 01:28:49,880
Speaker 3: he does well and use that and use that as

1772
01:28:49,880 --> 01:28:52,240
Speaker 3: the fodder for your team moving forward. Because at the

1773
01:28:52,320 --> 01:28:55,799
Speaker 3: end of the day, he was a top round pick.

1774
01:28:56,200 --> 01:28:58,880
Speaker 3: He can play football, and we've seen that so well.

1775
01:28:58,960 --> 01:29:01,760
Speaker 2: I mean his senior or a junior as it was

1776
01:29:02,120 --> 01:29:05,240
Speaker 2: at Alabama his last year, I mean completed what seventy

1777
01:29:05,280 --> 01:29:06,439
Speaker 2: six percent of his passes?

1778
01:29:06,520 --> 01:29:06,760
Speaker 3: Right.

1779
01:29:06,920 --> 01:29:08,880
Speaker 2: I always get back to this because I think about

1780
01:29:08,960 --> 01:29:10,760
Speaker 2: Nick Foles when he took over his quarterback of the

1781
01:29:10,800 --> 01:29:13,800
Speaker 2: Eagles after Carson Wentz went down with that injury and

1782
01:29:13,840 --> 01:29:18,160
Speaker 2: it wasn't really doing much, and then Doug Peterson said, we.

1783
01:29:18,120 --> 01:29:19,280
Speaker 3: Need to change the offense.

1784
01:29:19,840 --> 01:29:22,200
Speaker 2: We need to change the offense to what he did

1785
01:29:22,760 --> 01:29:25,200
Speaker 2: when he began his career in Philadelphia. Remember that Eagles

1786
01:29:25,240 --> 01:29:28,160
Speaker 2: player that was setting all these records. Let's put that

1787
01:29:28,280 --> 01:29:31,040
Speaker 2: offense in because that seems to be the offense that

1788
01:29:31,120 --> 01:29:31,920
Speaker 2: he does best in.

1789
01:29:32,080 --> 01:29:34,479
Speaker 3: They did, and the result was winning a super Bowl.

1790
01:29:34,600 --> 01:29:37,439
Speaker 2: Yes, just amazing to me, the arrogance of these coaches

1791
01:29:37,479 --> 01:29:40,439
Speaker 2: sometimes that they really believe they're going to figure you know,

1792
01:29:40,960 --> 01:29:43,880
Speaker 2: the squareheg in a round hole. And the idea is

1793
01:29:44,520 --> 01:29:49,280
Speaker 2: build the offense around what it is your quarterback does best.

1794
01:29:49,479 --> 01:29:53,680
Speaker 3: It's called coaching. Steve yes, Steve they adjustment. You have

1795
01:29:53,800 --> 01:29:54,559
Speaker 3: to don't.

1796
01:29:54,439 --> 01:29:57,080
Speaker 2: Force him to do something. Put him in a position

1797
01:29:57,240 --> 01:30:00,599
Speaker 2: to succeed. Don't be stuck, novel idea, don't be stuck. Yeah,

1798
01:30:00,800 --> 01:30:03,320
Speaker 2: because the mac Jones is not Tom Brady.

1799
01:30:03,439 --> 01:30:04,920
Speaker 3: No he isn't.

1800
01:30:04,960 --> 01:30:08,320
Speaker 2: So let's put him in an offense that fits mac Jones.

1801
01:30:08,560 --> 01:30:12,360
Speaker 2: Because in college, again he completed over seventy five percent

1802
01:30:12,400 --> 01:30:13,040
Speaker 2: of his passes.

1803
01:30:13,080 --> 01:30:15,360
Speaker 3: What were they doing? And I understand.

1804
01:30:14,920 --> 01:30:17,200
Speaker 2: Alabama just had more talent than the other teams, but

1805
01:30:17,240 --> 01:30:19,960
Speaker 2: there had to be something there to allow him to

1806
01:30:20,040 --> 01:30:21,759
Speaker 2: complete that high percentage of passes.

1807
01:30:22,040 --> 01:30:26,880
Speaker 3: Yes, it's the whole. It's the old adage of you

1808
01:30:27,240 --> 01:30:30,200
Speaker 3: the put the person in position to succeed. Oh, what

1809
01:30:30,240 --> 01:30:31,519
Speaker 3: a novel. Isn't that crazy?

1810
01:30:31,600 --> 01:30:33,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, we can see coaches don't see it that way,

1811
01:30:33,479 --> 01:30:35,400
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1812
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1833
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Speaker 2: He is our NFL insider. Adam Kaplan is joining us

1834
01:31:39,600 --> 01:31:41,519
Speaker 2: right now. So I know you've been hanging out with

1835
01:31:41,560 --> 01:31:44,200
Speaker 2: the Eagles. Who else have you seen so far as

1836
01:31:44,200 --> 01:31:45,920
Speaker 2: far as training camps are concerned, Adhaim?

1837
01:31:46,360 --> 01:31:47,679
Speaker 4: Yeah, so Giants and Eagles.

1838
01:31:47,720 --> 01:31:49,240
Speaker 11: It was supposed to be in Pittsburgh today but it

1839
01:31:49,280 --> 01:31:51,439
Speaker 11: got rained out, and then I will I'll be with

1840
01:31:51,479 --> 01:31:53,400
Speaker 11: Eagles tomorrow and then I leave for the West Coast.

1841
01:31:54,160 --> 01:31:57,439
Speaker 11: See the Cowboys on Monday. I see the Cowboys and Rams,

1842
01:31:57,680 --> 01:32:01,400
Speaker 11: then the Chargers of Rams after that, and then probably

1843
01:32:01,439 --> 01:32:03,960
Speaker 11: Baltimore and Washington. I'll probably by the time i'm done,

1844
01:32:04,000 --> 01:32:06,960
Speaker 11: I'll see eighteen to twenty teams work throughout the next

1845
01:32:06,960 --> 01:32:07,360
Speaker 11: three weeks.

1846
01:32:07,360 --> 01:32:09,559
Speaker 3: All right, Well, let's talk about the Giants right now.

1847
01:32:09,640 --> 01:32:12,640
Speaker 2: Give us the whole situation there with Saquan as I

1848
01:32:12,680 --> 01:32:16,280
Speaker 2: guess he is going to be with the team. You know,

1849
01:32:16,439 --> 01:32:19,960
Speaker 2: the huge contract obviously Daniel Jones got after throwing fifteen

1850
01:32:20,000 --> 01:32:25,679
Speaker 2: touchdown passes are the Giants believers in themselves, over believing

1851
01:32:25,720 --> 01:32:28,759
Speaker 2: in themselves after getting a playoff, went over the Vikings

1852
01:32:28,760 --> 01:32:31,160
Speaker 2: a year ago on the road. Where's the mindset of

1853
01:32:31,200 --> 01:32:32,360
Speaker 2: this Giants franchise.

1854
01:32:32,520 --> 01:32:35,840
Speaker 11: Yeah, talking to people there, they definitely believe that their

1855
01:32:35,920 --> 01:32:39,080
Speaker 11: rosters better on both sides of the football, no doubt

1856
01:32:39,120 --> 01:32:42,519
Speaker 11: about it. You mentioned Barkley's back, that's huge for them.

1857
01:32:42,880 --> 01:32:45,240
Speaker 11: Their offensive line, got a bunch of injured players back.

1858
01:32:45,479 --> 01:32:48,840
Speaker 11: They're deeper at the wide receiver position. It's Jones's second

1859
01:32:48,920 --> 01:32:51,519
Speaker 11: year in the system. Defensively, they've had a lot of

1860
01:32:51,560 --> 01:32:54,240
Speaker 11: good talent. They also drafted Deonty Banks the first round

1861
01:32:54,240 --> 01:32:55,360
Speaker 11: out of Maryland at corner.

1862
01:32:55,600 --> 01:32:56,439
Speaker 4: They're excited about.

1863
01:32:56,439 --> 01:32:58,479
Speaker 11: They got some injured players back in the secondary, so

1864
01:32:59,160 --> 01:33:01,280
Speaker 11: the team is deeper on both sides of the football.

1865
01:33:02,400 --> 01:33:04,479
Speaker 11: It's very well coached, probably one of the best coaching

1866
01:33:04,520 --> 01:33:06,479
Speaker 11: jobs in the National Football League. Last season, somehow the

1867
01:33:06,520 --> 01:33:08,600
Speaker 11: Giants made the playoffs with not a great roster. So

1868
01:33:09,160 --> 01:33:12,120
Speaker 11: they feel pretty good about it. Uh, you know, they're not.

1869
01:33:12,160 --> 01:33:14,040
Speaker 11: They're not gonna for sure exactly where they're going to

1870
01:33:14,080 --> 01:33:16,160
Speaker 11: be until probably three four weeks once they get done

1871
01:33:16,160 --> 01:33:17,639
Speaker 11: training camp and get through the preseason.

1872
01:33:17,680 --> 01:33:19,759
Speaker 4: But spending the day with them yesterday.

1873
01:33:19,760 --> 01:33:21,320
Speaker 11: There's no question they think they're they're going to be

1874
01:33:21,320 --> 01:33:22,800
Speaker 11: better than last season, but time will tell.

1875
01:33:22,920 --> 01:33:25,639
Speaker 3: Adam's a piggyback off of that. You know, Uh, Dave

1876
01:33:25,640 --> 01:33:28,200
Speaker 3: Ball is a really good coach, very personable, a guy

1877
01:33:28,240 --> 01:33:32,840
Speaker 3: that's usually very likeable, very likable person as well. I

1878
01:33:32,880 --> 01:33:35,560
Speaker 3: had a little time with him in New York with

1879
01:33:35,600 --> 01:33:38,960
Speaker 3: the Jets when you know, he was assisting with Mangini

1880
01:33:39,000 --> 01:33:40,639
Speaker 3: at the time, so I know him for a while.

1881
01:33:40,680 --> 01:33:42,800
Speaker 3: I know he's a guy that really gets the best

1882
01:33:42,800 --> 01:33:45,280
Speaker 3: out of his players because he's one of the dudes usually.

1883
01:33:46,120 --> 01:33:49,360
Speaker 3: But let's talk about Daniel Jones and and the connection

1884
01:33:49,479 --> 01:33:51,840
Speaker 3: with Darren Waller. I've heard really good, really good things

1885
01:33:51,840 --> 01:33:54,759
Speaker 3: about that, and you know he's becoming, you know, Daniel

1886
01:33:54,800 --> 01:33:55,960
Speaker 3: Jones's man.

1887
01:33:56,479 --> 01:33:56,679
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1888
01:33:56,720 --> 01:33:58,960
Speaker 11: So I had a report, uh, you know, two weeks

1889
01:33:58,960 --> 01:34:01,479
Speaker 11: ago about what happened with him and with the Raiders

1890
01:34:01,479 --> 01:34:03,960
Speaker 11: and while the Raiders really wanted to move him from

1891
01:34:03,960 --> 01:34:06,920
Speaker 11: my friends at Pro Football Network and look, it was

1892
01:34:06,960 --> 01:34:10,240
Speaker 11: a situation where the Raiders felt two back to back

1893
01:34:10,320 --> 01:34:12,800
Speaker 11: years of injuries. Yes, they extended his contract then trade

1894
01:34:12,880 --> 01:34:16,720
Speaker 11: him weeks six months later, which is ridiculous. But he

1895
01:34:16,800 --> 01:34:19,400
Speaker 11: turned thirty one in this fall. They felt like, look,

1896
01:34:19,439 --> 01:34:21,360
Speaker 11: you can't wait any longer. He just couldn't stay on

1897
01:34:21,360 --> 01:34:23,280
Speaker 11: the field, and that's you know, that's going to be

1898
01:34:23,320 --> 01:34:25,919
Speaker 11: the big issue here now. Talking to the Giants yesterday,

1899
01:34:26,479 --> 01:34:28,760
Speaker 11: they have a plan for Waller. They're knocking to overwork them.

1900
01:34:28,760 --> 01:34:31,240
Speaker 11: They understand his agent injury history, and they know they

1901
01:34:31,320 --> 01:34:33,760
Speaker 11: got to get him to the regular season healthy and

1902
01:34:33,800 --> 01:34:36,759
Speaker 11: they do feel like their past our group is better.

1903
01:34:37,640 --> 01:34:39,080
Speaker 4: Waller is sort of a unicorn.

1904
01:34:39,120 --> 01:34:42,960
Speaker 11: You watch he makes his play carry yesterday, they had

1905
01:34:43,000 --> 01:34:44,400
Speaker 11: two guys on him and he just went up the

1906
01:34:44,880 --> 01:34:46,680
Speaker 11: elevator shaft and went and got the football. It was

1907
01:34:46,840 --> 01:34:49,599
Speaker 11: pretty remarkable play. Now, there was also a play later

1908
01:34:49,680 --> 01:34:52,000
Speaker 11: in the practice on the left side line. He took

1909
01:34:52,040 --> 01:34:54,840
Speaker 11: a hard fall on the grass, got right up. There

1910
01:34:54,880 --> 01:34:57,240
Speaker 11: was a little bit of a h oh, and then

1911
01:34:57,439 --> 01:34:59,240
Speaker 11: he was fine. He got up And that's going to

1912
01:34:59,280 --> 01:35:01,960
Speaker 11: be the thing with him, keeping them healthy because he's

1913
01:35:02,000 --> 01:35:04,639
Speaker 11: a game changer. And though the receiver corp is better

1914
01:35:04,680 --> 01:35:08,160
Speaker 11: than it was, it seaper than was last season, they

1915
01:35:08,160 --> 01:35:11,280
Speaker 11: don't have that star receiver and that's why Waller will

1916
01:35:11,280 --> 01:35:12,120
Speaker 11: be their number one guy.

1917
01:35:12,160 --> 01:35:13,479
Speaker 4: There's no doubt about it one healthy.

1918
01:35:13,560 --> 01:35:15,280
Speaker 2: All right, let's talk about Sean Payton here.

1919
01:35:16,200 --> 01:35:17,400
Speaker 3: Nothing's by accident.

1920
01:35:17,479 --> 01:35:19,639
Speaker 2: I know he was trying to walk it back, saying

1921
01:35:19,720 --> 01:35:22,360
Speaker 2: he still had his Fox commentator had on maybe a

1922
01:35:22,400 --> 01:35:26,000
Speaker 2: couple of lattes too many, and he made his comments.

1923
01:35:26,240 --> 01:35:28,520
Speaker 3: He spoke the obvious hacker was a disaster.

1924
01:35:28,960 --> 01:35:31,640
Speaker 2: But I got to believe that he he's sort of

1925
01:35:31,640 --> 01:35:33,920
Speaker 2: reading the room with that locker room with the Broncos

1926
01:35:34,000 --> 01:35:36,400
Speaker 2: because he's put a huge target on their back, sort

1927
01:35:36,439 --> 01:35:40,280
Speaker 2: of the US versus the rest of the world. And

1928
01:35:40,320 --> 01:35:42,559
Speaker 2: by the way, we were talking Carrie and I about

1929
01:35:42,560 --> 01:35:48,240
Speaker 2: how strangely quiet Russell Wilson's been through this entire controversy

1930
01:35:48,240 --> 01:35:50,519
Speaker 2: about what Sean Payton had to say about Hackett. But

1931
01:35:50,960 --> 01:35:54,040
Speaker 2: what did you make of the situation and how is

1932
01:35:54,080 --> 01:35:56,200
Speaker 2: this going to affect the Broncos moving forward?

1933
01:35:56,560 --> 01:35:59,000
Speaker 4: A couple things. Let's let's start for a ladder here.

1934
01:35:59,720 --> 01:36:03,519
Speaker 11: The Ronco's play the Jets this season, so and Peyton

1935
01:36:03,520 --> 01:36:05,640
Speaker 11: acknowledged that, and as Mia Koppa, if you want to

1936
01:36:05,640 --> 01:36:10,000
Speaker 11: recall it that with the media yesterday. Look, this is

1937
01:36:10,040 --> 01:36:11,760
Speaker 11: another team. When you look at the roster, you go,

1938
01:36:11,760 --> 01:36:14,080
Speaker 11: how are they not better? Well, they weren't very well coached,

1939
01:36:14,560 --> 01:36:17,320
Speaker 11: as one coaching source called what he knew about what

1940
01:36:17,360 --> 01:36:20,599
Speaker 11: was going on last summer and training camp camp cupcake,

1941
01:36:21,080 --> 01:36:22,960
Speaker 11: there was no discipline with that football team. I'm just

1942
01:36:23,000 --> 01:36:25,400
Speaker 11: telling you what a very well plugged and coach said

1943
01:36:25,439 --> 01:36:27,920
Speaker 11: to me. Who's knew what was going on with Danver?

1944
01:36:28,000 --> 01:36:30,640
Speaker 11: He said it was embarrassing, And look, Sean Payton never

1945
01:36:30,680 --> 01:36:34,040
Speaker 11: should have said this probably now. He absolutely had every

1946
01:36:34,160 --> 01:36:38,759
Speaker 11: right to tell management, ownership, the president of the football team,

1947
01:36:38,880 --> 01:36:41,880
Speaker 11: obviously the GM, George Peyton, who different spelling by the way,

1948
01:36:42,040 --> 01:36:45,639
Speaker 11: who's got to work closely with And yeah, you're right,

1949
01:36:45,880 --> 01:36:48,040
Speaker 11: he definitely want to throw down the gauntlet. Things are

1950
01:36:48,040 --> 01:36:50,280
Speaker 11: going to change. There's got to be better disciplined. Russell

1951
01:36:50,320 --> 01:36:52,479
Speaker 11: Wilson could pretty much do whatever he won last season.

1952
01:36:52,479 --> 01:36:54,960
Speaker 11: That's why he was so bad. And now Peyton wants

1953
01:36:55,000 --> 01:36:57,400
Speaker 11: to rebuild him. And it's going to be an interesting

1954
01:36:57,439 --> 01:37:00,680
Speaker 11: relationship because the one issue of many that Wilson's had

1955
01:37:00,680 --> 01:37:02,880
Speaker 11: in his career when it didn't go well, it was

1956
01:37:02,880 --> 01:37:06,599
Speaker 11: a lack of discipline, playing with a freestyle of offense, and

1957
01:37:06,640 --> 01:37:08,280
Speaker 11: that's not the way the Sean Payton system is.

1958
01:37:08,320 --> 01:37:09,679
Speaker 4: It's more of a timing based offense.

1959
01:37:09,720 --> 01:37:12,840
Speaker 11: And I'm really interested to see how Peyton and Joe

1960
01:37:12,880 --> 01:37:14,800
Speaker 11: Lombardi worked together here with Wilson that that's going to

1961
01:37:14,840 --> 01:37:16,439
Speaker 11: be one of the storylines for that football team, probably

1962
01:37:16,479 --> 01:37:16,960
Speaker 11: the top one.

1963
01:37:17,280 --> 01:37:18,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, you spoke about a team that they're going to

1964
01:37:18,800 --> 01:37:21,080
Speaker 3: play later on in that in that year and the Jets.

1965
01:37:21,400 --> 01:37:23,479
Speaker 3: What have you heard about, you know, the Dalvin Cook

1966
01:37:23,640 --> 01:37:28,440
Speaker 3: supposed supposed visit this weekend, and and also the subsequent

1967
01:37:28,479 --> 01:37:30,760
Speaker 3: comments that Breze Hall made on Twitter. He made a

1968
01:37:30,760 --> 01:37:34,800
Speaker 3: little laughing out loud suggestion to some of the people

1969
01:37:34,880 --> 01:37:37,280
Speaker 3: saying that we needed that extra back to come in

1970
01:37:37,320 --> 01:37:39,840
Speaker 3: and take the workload off. So what did you said

1971
01:37:39,840 --> 01:37:40,200
Speaker 3: about that?

1972
01:37:40,439 --> 01:37:42,880
Speaker 11: Yeah, so, Car, here's my report for PO Football Network

1973
01:37:42,920 --> 01:37:45,599
Speaker 11: from two weeks ago. They were looking into the running

1974
01:37:45,600 --> 01:37:48,840
Speaker 11: back market. They definitely had interest in Dalvin Cook. You know,

1975
01:37:49,040 --> 01:37:51,559
Speaker 11: as you know, a visit does not always result in

1976
01:37:51,600 --> 01:37:54,400
Speaker 11: a signing, and and and Cooks got interest from the Patriots,

1977
01:37:54,920 --> 01:37:58,080
Speaker 11: the Dolphins, two or three other teams are kind of lurking.

1978
01:37:58,120 --> 01:37:59,800
Speaker 11: So he's definitely has the interest. The problem is he

1979
01:37:59,800 --> 01:38:02,000
Speaker 11: does not have the money. That's why he's not signed yet.

1980
01:38:02,720 --> 01:38:04,200
Speaker 11: He's not going to get anywhere close to the ten

1981
01:38:04,240 --> 01:38:07,840
Speaker 11: point four million dollars that in total cash that the

1982
01:38:07,920 --> 01:38:10,320
Speaker 11: Vikings owe him. He's owed two million of that, so

1983
01:38:10,880 --> 01:38:12,680
Speaker 11: obviously he's going to want to make at least eight

1984
01:38:12,720 --> 01:38:13,960
Speaker 11: more million in cash.

1985
01:38:14,000 --> 01:38:15,080
Speaker 4: I don't see that happening.

1986
01:38:15,520 --> 01:38:18,599
Speaker 11: Miles Sanders, the for agent running back Formuly of the Eagles,

1987
01:38:18,600 --> 01:38:20,479
Speaker 11: got the best for agent deal at just six point

1988
01:38:20,439 --> 01:38:23,880
Speaker 11: twenty five million. That's the best he could expect realistically,

1989
01:38:23,920 --> 01:38:26,639
Speaker 11: maybe with some upside with some playing time in centers.

1990
01:38:26,680 --> 01:38:30,160
Speaker 11: But yeah, look, my understanding is this. It's not with

1991
01:38:30,240 --> 01:38:32,439
Speaker 11: bretz Hall. By the way, he's an active physically unable

1992
01:38:32,520 --> 01:38:34,880
Speaker 11: to perform. It's not that they don't know he'll be

1993
01:38:34,920 --> 01:38:37,559
Speaker 11: available in September. They do believe he will. They don't

1994
01:38:37,600 --> 01:38:40,200
Speaker 11: know how many carries or what he could handle because

1995
01:38:40,240 --> 01:38:43,120
Speaker 11: he hasn't practiced since last year. He's coming back from

1996
01:38:43,160 --> 01:38:46,519
Speaker 11: Aco reconstruction, so they've not seen him practice since December

1997
01:38:47,080 --> 01:38:49,360
Speaker 11: and they just don't know. Yeah, he's rehab I'm told

1998
01:38:49,360 --> 01:38:52,920
Speaker 11: by two people he's been fantastic, but they just don't know.

1999
01:38:53,080 --> 01:38:57,719
Speaker 11: When you have major D playoff aspirations and this West

2000
01:38:57,760 --> 01:39:00,879
Speaker 11: Coast offense is old school West Coast offense. Nate Hackett's

2001
01:39:00,880 --> 01:39:04,600
Speaker 11: bringing in he's running the same offensive last year that

2002
01:39:04,760 --> 01:39:09,160
Speaker 11: Micha Laflor, Matt's brother ran, and it starts with the

2003
01:39:09,240 --> 01:39:11,519
Speaker 11: run game. And right now, without Hall, I'm told it's

2004
01:39:11,560 --> 01:39:14,040
Speaker 11: going to be Michael Carter, who sort of got bench

2005
01:39:14,080 --> 01:39:15,760
Speaker 11: last season. He had a good rookie season, but he

2006
01:39:15,800 --> 01:39:18,280
Speaker 11: was kind of bench, didn't really have a role, and

2007
01:39:18,320 --> 01:39:21,000
Speaker 11: they don't. They're just not comfortable, as I understand it,

2008
01:39:21,040 --> 01:39:24,080
Speaker 11: with not knowing exactly what priest could handle not handle,

2009
01:39:24,479 --> 01:39:28,439
Speaker 11: and that encapsulates their interest in the aforementioned Dalvin Cook.

2010
01:39:28,479 --> 01:39:31,120
Speaker 2: All right, all the controversy with the running back position,

2011
01:39:31,400 --> 01:39:34,000
Speaker 2: the ill fated meeting that produced absolutely nothing, and then

2012
01:39:34,080 --> 01:39:36,160
Speaker 2: Jim Mrsay comes out and saying, look, we have a

2013
01:39:36,200 --> 01:39:40,360
Speaker 2: collective bargaining agreement in place that everyone agreed to, and

2014
01:39:40,400 --> 01:39:42,120
Speaker 2: so the idea that we should sing a lot of

2015
01:39:42,200 --> 01:39:46,320
Speaker 2: position that somehow they should get preferential treatment. All that

2016
01:39:46,400 --> 01:39:49,200
Speaker 2: being said, does that mean that Jonathan Taylor is on

2017
01:39:49,280 --> 01:39:51,920
Speaker 2: the endangered species list as far as his future with

2018
01:39:51,960 --> 01:39:52,439
Speaker 2: the Colts?

2019
01:39:52,920 --> 01:39:54,600
Speaker 11: No, I mean he's their guy and they don't have

2020
01:39:54,640 --> 01:39:56,439
Speaker 11: anyone who could take his place. I mean, you know,

2021
01:39:56,560 --> 01:39:58,880
Speaker 11: he's coming back with mancal surgery. He's still in pup.

2022
01:40:00,200 --> 01:40:02,840
Speaker 11: He's fully expected to be ready for the season. But no,

2023
01:40:02,960 --> 01:40:05,760
Speaker 11: this is a team that they're in a semi rebuild. Here,

2024
01:40:06,320 --> 01:40:08,640
Speaker 11: they've got their quarterback and Anthony Richardson who they're going

2025
01:40:08,720 --> 01:40:14,000
Speaker 11: to bring along here. They feel good about the receiver corps. Defensively,

2026
01:40:14,040 --> 01:40:16,080
Speaker 11: they've got issues on the back end. That's gonna be

2027
01:40:16,120 --> 01:40:17,479
Speaker 11: a problem for them. That's why they won't be a

2028
01:40:17,479 --> 01:40:20,960
Speaker 11: playoff team. But this is one of these situations where

2029
01:40:21,600 --> 01:40:23,880
Speaker 11: they have to help out their quarterback. You do that

2030
01:40:23,960 --> 01:40:25,400
Speaker 11: with a run game. They don't have to run at

2031
01:40:25,400 --> 01:40:27,519
Speaker 11: a ton, but they have to have some semblance of

2032
01:40:27,600 --> 01:40:29,559
Speaker 11: running game without John and Taylor wouldn't do that and

2033
01:40:29,600 --> 01:40:30,240
Speaker 11: be able to do that.

2034
01:40:30,320 --> 01:40:32,200
Speaker 4: So no, Taylor's their guy. Now.

2035
01:40:33,640 --> 01:40:37,679
Speaker 11: Look, he's been a high character player. He's been terrific.

2036
01:40:37,760 --> 01:40:40,080
Speaker 11: Unfortunately had the ankle surgery. As you guys know, this

2037
01:40:40,160 --> 01:40:43,280
Speaker 11: is the fawning Evers rookie deal. He changed agents. You know,

2038
01:40:43,320 --> 01:40:47,439
Speaker 11: he wants a new deal. Hasn't gotten that yet. And look,

2039
01:40:48,280 --> 01:40:50,760
Speaker 11: look we saw what happened with Josh Shakos. By the way,

2040
01:40:50,760 --> 01:40:54,160
Speaker 11: he's not reported. The Raiders, I'm told, made a very

2041
01:40:54,160 --> 01:40:56,360
Speaker 11: little effort to resign him. They came in late with

2042
01:40:56,400 --> 01:40:59,599
Speaker 11: an offera, but wasn't close. In fact, the Giants made

2043
01:40:59,600 --> 01:41:01,400
Speaker 11: way more of an effort than that the Raiders did

2044
01:41:01,439 --> 01:41:04,280
Speaker 11: to get their running back back. So you're right, Steve,

2045
01:41:04,320 --> 01:41:07,920
Speaker 11: this running back situation, I've not seen this before, Like

2046
01:41:08,320 --> 01:41:13,160
Speaker 11: sometimes the cap doesn't reflect some of what salaries should be.

2047
01:41:13,240 --> 01:41:16,040
Speaker 11: Rising quarterbacks obviously have been getting paid big time and

2048
01:41:16,120 --> 01:41:18,400
Speaker 11: when Burrows deal gets done, it could get close to

2049
01:41:18,439 --> 01:41:21,120
Speaker 11: fifty five million a season. But you're right, these running

2050
01:41:21,160 --> 01:41:22,040
Speaker 11: back deals have been a joke.

2051
01:41:22,520 --> 01:41:24,880
Speaker 3: We'd be remiss to not talk about the Eagles for

2052
01:41:24,920 --> 01:41:27,160
Speaker 3: you a little bit here. You went out there and

2053
01:41:27,439 --> 01:41:29,639
Speaker 3: checked them out as well. What have you seen from them?

2054
01:41:29,640 --> 01:41:33,000
Speaker 3: Are they having any Super Bowl hangover? Or are they

2055
01:41:33,040 --> 01:41:34,840
Speaker 3: motivated to take that next step?

2056
01:41:35,040 --> 01:41:37,560
Speaker 11: You know, it's funny carry that's actually a big subject.

2057
01:41:38,000 --> 01:41:40,599
Speaker 11: You mentioned the Super Bowl hangover. Nick Sirianne, their head coach,

2058
01:41:40,600 --> 01:41:43,120
Speaker 11: actually was asked about it admitted they did a study

2059
01:41:43,680 --> 01:41:45,280
Speaker 11: because they're generally.

2060
01:41:46,560 --> 01:41:48,400
Speaker 4: Their issues over the years.

2061
01:41:48,640 --> 01:41:51,280
Speaker 11: Teams sort of get entitled, hey, we deserve to be here,

2062
01:41:51,320 --> 01:41:54,519
Speaker 11: and it seeps into their brains and they start thinking

2063
01:41:54,520 --> 01:41:58,639
Speaker 11: they're better than they are. Injuries that eighteen Eagles team

2064
01:41:58,680 --> 01:42:00,240
Speaker 11: after they won the super Bowl in seventeen. They had

2065
01:42:00,280 --> 01:42:04,439
Speaker 11: a lot of injuries, quarterback changes, coaching. By the way,

2066
01:42:04,520 --> 01:42:08,320
Speaker 11: another big thing that's been under discussed is teams that

2067
01:42:08,400 --> 01:42:10,919
Speaker 11: lose a lot of their top coaches, whether it's coordinators.

2068
01:42:10,920 --> 01:42:13,360
Speaker 11: In this case, the Eagles lost both their coordinators. They

2069
01:42:13,360 --> 01:42:17,160
Speaker 11: also have a minimum of seven new starters to on offense,

2070
01:42:17,200 --> 01:42:20,280
Speaker 11: five on defense, and they're gonna have a minimum of

2071
01:42:20,320 --> 01:42:24,320
Speaker 11: six new coaches overall. That's a lot of change that's

2072
01:42:24,400 --> 01:42:26,960
Speaker 11: not good now the roster offensively, they might have the

2073
01:42:27,040 --> 01:42:27,960
Speaker 11: NFL's best offense.

2074
01:42:28,040 --> 01:42:29,280
Speaker 4: It just looks fantastic.

2075
01:42:30,120 --> 01:42:32,439
Speaker 11: They have two older corners, the oldest cornerback tanem in

2076
01:42:32,439 --> 01:42:35,679
Speaker 11: the National Football League. They lost Javon Hargrave, a star

2077
01:42:35,800 --> 01:42:39,280
Speaker 11: interior pass rusher who sign a mega deal with the Niners.

2078
01:42:39,280 --> 01:42:41,439
Speaker 11: So look, there's a lot of change here. Change could

2079
01:42:41,479 --> 01:42:44,080
Speaker 11: be good, but in this case I don't think it's great.

2080
01:42:44,200 --> 01:42:46,200
Speaker 11: But they're really well coaching. We'll see what happens.

2081
01:42:46,680 --> 01:42:49,160
Speaker 2: It's funny And just a final thought here, you mentioned about,

2082
01:42:49,200 --> 01:42:51,760
Speaker 2: you know, teams coming off Super Bowl losses, you lose

2083
01:42:51,840 --> 01:42:55,479
Speaker 2: the assistant coaches. Patriots used to lose assistant coaches all

2084
01:42:55,520 --> 01:42:58,719
Speaker 2: the time during the Belichick Aaron never miss a beat. Yes, either.

2085
01:42:58,760 --> 01:43:01,840
Speaker 2: They were vastly over as assistant coaches. A lot of

2086
01:43:01,840 --> 01:43:04,880
Speaker 2: them obviously failed in an attempt to become head coaches

2087
01:43:04,920 --> 01:43:07,479
Speaker 2: in the league, but it seemed like the overall system

2088
01:43:07,520 --> 01:43:11,559
Speaker 2: put by Bellichick in place was immune. Well you had

2089
01:43:11,560 --> 01:43:14,720
Speaker 2: any departures from any assistant. You heard Adam murmuring in

2090
01:43:14,720 --> 01:43:15,879
Speaker 2: the background he had a quarterback.

2091
01:43:17,479 --> 01:43:19,840
Speaker 4: I mean, look, that's always been in debate.

2092
01:43:19,920 --> 01:43:23,000
Speaker 11: And I was asked here in FSR right when Brady

2093
01:43:23,080 --> 01:43:24,080
Speaker 11: left to go to Tampa Bay.

2094
01:43:24,080 --> 01:43:26,920
Speaker 4: Okay, who's more important to the Patriots. And it was

2095
01:43:26,920 --> 01:43:27,840
Speaker 4: always a tough question.

2096
01:43:27,920 --> 01:43:30,400
Speaker 11: But I'm like, if you don't have the quarterback, I

2097
01:43:30,400 --> 01:43:31,880
Speaker 11: don't care how great of a head coach you are,

2098
01:43:31,960 --> 01:43:35,559
Speaker 11: you can't win. Now, Bill, I've been a Belichick defender forever,

2099
01:43:35,640 --> 01:43:38,040
Speaker 11: but I couldn't defend what he did last season having

2100
01:43:38,040 --> 01:43:39,760
Speaker 11: Matt Patrich would be the offense coordinator. That was a

2101
01:43:39,800 --> 01:43:41,960
Speaker 11: terrible mistake. I was there for two days when the

2102
01:43:42,200 --> 01:43:46,320
Speaker 11: Panthers were in. They looked, they looked discombobulated. Talking to

2103
01:43:46,360 --> 01:43:49,200
Speaker 11: player sources there, I hate to say this, but they

2104
01:43:49,240 --> 01:43:53,080
Speaker 11: kind of rebelled against the scheme that they were running.

2105
01:43:54,080 --> 01:43:57,400
Speaker 11: They're really running Josh Mcchaenal's scheme. But Matt Patricia try

2106
01:43:57,400 --> 01:44:00,000
Speaker 11: to change it up. It didn't work. That was stupid.

2107
01:44:00,080 --> 01:44:02,600
Speaker 11: Now you look at Mac Jones' first year, right, he

2108
01:44:02,640 --> 01:44:05,000
Speaker 11: was terrific by rookie standards. He was well ahead of

2109
01:44:05,000 --> 01:44:07,400
Speaker 11: the game, and then he regressed because of the bad development.

2110
01:44:07,479 --> 01:44:09,240
Speaker 11: Now he's back here with Bill Brian, who you could

2111
01:44:09,280 --> 01:44:11,439
Speaker 11: say what you want. He's a good coach, he's a

2112
01:44:11,439 --> 01:44:13,960
Speaker 11: good play caller. Mac Jones, I fully expect to be

2113
01:44:14,000 --> 01:44:14,599
Speaker 11: back on track.

2114
01:44:14,760 --> 01:44:16,000
Speaker 3: Well, we'll see. By the way.

2115
01:44:16,040 --> 01:44:19,040
Speaker 2: Paul Brown, who is the only only coach I ever

2116
01:44:19,200 --> 01:44:22,760
Speaker 2: have a team named after him, the Browns. He had

2117
01:44:22,800 --> 01:44:25,160
Speaker 2: Auto Graham at quarterback his first ten years as a

2118
01:44:25,200 --> 01:44:28,320
Speaker 2: head coach, and they went to the championship all ten years.

2119
01:44:28,320 --> 01:44:31,880
Speaker 2: Finally Graham retired actually a second time retired first year

2120
01:44:31,920 --> 01:44:33,320
Speaker 2: after him, and he had a losing record.

2121
01:44:33,360 --> 01:44:34,840
Speaker 3: Does that mean Paul Brown forgot how.

2122
01:44:34,760 --> 01:44:38,280
Speaker 2: To coach or quarterback fact that the quarterbacks actually matter?

2123
01:44:38,360 --> 01:44:38,559
Speaker 4: They do?

2124
01:44:38,880 --> 01:44:41,559
Speaker 2: That is a really old school reference that preciates all

2125
01:44:41,600 --> 01:44:42,680
Speaker 2: of us.

2126
01:44:42,960 --> 01:44:43,360
Speaker 3: It out there.

2127
01:44:43,400 --> 01:44:46,120
Speaker 4: I tell you what, don't you kick anything past Steve Hart?

2128
01:44:46,320 --> 01:44:49,360
Speaker 3: No, I try not to. Adam give us quick preview

2129
01:44:49,400 --> 01:44:50,280
Speaker 3: where you going this week?

2130
01:44:50,680 --> 01:44:52,880
Speaker 11: All right, So Monday morning, brighten ear a leaf for

2131
01:44:53,120 --> 01:44:57,559
Speaker 11: LA got Cowboys, I've got Rams and Chargers. Then after that,

2132
01:44:57,640 --> 01:45:00,800
Speaker 11: I've got Ravens and the Commando. And we'll see what

2133
01:45:00,840 --> 01:45:02,679
Speaker 11: they name changed in a year, hopefully.

2134
01:45:03,240 --> 01:45:04,599
Speaker 4: I like, I don't know why they should have called

2135
01:45:04,640 --> 01:45:05,200
Speaker 4: them the Commandos.

2136
01:45:05,240 --> 01:45:08,960
Speaker 2: Come on, man, I like to go back to football team.

2137
01:45:09,080 --> 01:45:13,480
Speaker 2: I loved it, I thought, I love that. Yeah, absolutely

2138
01:45:13,600 --> 01:45:15,760
Speaker 2: love it football. In other words, Adam will have a

2139
01:45:15,760 --> 01:45:17,639
Speaker 2: lot to catch up on next week. I was always

2140
01:45:17,640 --> 01:45:19,360
Speaker 2: you're the best of the best. Thanks so much, Adam,

2141
01:45:20,640 --> 01:45:24,720
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio NFL insider Adam Kaplan, All right, let's

2142
01:45:24,760 --> 01:45:27,600
Speaker 2: find out what is trending right now. Brian Finley is

2143
01:45:28,000 --> 01:45:30,880
Speaker 2: backbefen or are you getting anxious for the start of

2144
01:45:30,880 --> 01:45:32,240
Speaker 2: the football season.

2145
01:45:32,800 --> 01:45:35,559
Speaker 9: I am, But I consider myself an NFL football free

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Speaker 9: agent because coming from San Diego, we do know that

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Speaker 9: they left sort of.

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Speaker 3: You don't have any allegiance to the Chargers. I mean, yeah,

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01:45:44,000 --> 01:45:46,519
Speaker 3: if there's a team me, what do you say here?

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01:45:46,600 --> 01:45:48,920
Speaker 3: Did you just say you are free agent? An NFL

2151
01:45:48,960 --> 01:45:50,439
Speaker 3: fans free agent. That's a real thing.

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Speaker 2: By the way, I can tell you my own experience,

2153
01:45:52,439 --> 01:45:54,479
Speaker 2: so I grew up an La Ram fan when they

2154
01:45:54,479 --> 01:45:58,160
Speaker 2: played at the Coliseum. When they moved Orange County, it's

2155
01:45:58,200 --> 01:46:00,439
Speaker 2: like they moved to Buffalo. I was no longer a

2156
01:46:00,520 --> 01:46:03,439
Speaker 2: Rams fan. They still call themselves the La Rams, but

2157
01:46:03,520 --> 01:46:05,479
Speaker 2: to me, they were Orange County. I had a brief

2158
01:46:05,560 --> 01:46:08,760
Speaker 2: period where I was a Jets fan, really weird because

2159
01:46:08,760 --> 01:46:12,759
Speaker 2: they had Freeman McNeil was the early eighties. I hated

2160
01:46:12,800 --> 01:46:14,960
Speaker 2: the Raiders and then I got highed by the Raiders.

2161
01:46:15,479 --> 01:46:18,040
Speaker 2: So then, obviously as a fan of the Raiders, I've

2162
01:46:18,080 --> 01:46:21,040
Speaker 2: always been really as far as the NFL is concerned,

2163
01:46:21,120 --> 01:46:24,920
Speaker 2: I have not been a die hard fan forever of

2164
01:46:24,960 --> 01:46:28,360
Speaker 2: any one team. I have drifted from team to team

2165
01:46:28,439 --> 01:46:29,960
Speaker 2: depending on my situation.

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Speaker 9: When you were a Jets fan, that was like your

2167
01:46:33,160 --> 01:46:36,519
Speaker 9: teenage rebellious years, right when you were trying to figure

2168
01:46:36,520 --> 01:46:37,360
Speaker 9: out yourself out.

2169
01:46:37,560 --> 01:46:41,960
Speaker 2: Essentially, the Raiders first year in LA they lost to

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Speaker 2: the Jets in the playoffs. I remember I was so

2171
01:46:44,320 --> 01:46:47,160
Speaker 2: thrilled I couldn't see straight. I don't know why, but

2172
01:46:47,320 --> 01:46:49,720
Speaker 2: I mean, and then to the fact that I was

2173
01:46:49,760 --> 01:46:51,240
Speaker 2: working for that same team in a couple of.

2174
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Speaker 3: Years, the Raiders. I mean, the fact you throughout Freeman McNeil.

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01:46:54,200 --> 01:46:56,240
Speaker 2: That means you were a real well he was a

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01:46:56,360 --> 01:47:00,400
Speaker 2: UCLA games got a Ucla guy, played nine years, never

2177
01:47:00,439 --> 01:47:01,960
Speaker 2: averaged less than four yards of care yea.

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Speaker 9: I remember when the Chargers hosted a playoff game against

2179
01:47:04,640 --> 01:47:06,960
Speaker 9: the Jets and Nate Cating. I was at the game,

2180
01:47:07,439 --> 01:47:08,559
Speaker 9: made a couple of misses.

2181
01:47:08,920 --> 01:47:10,639
Speaker 2: He was one of the best guys in the league.

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01:47:10,720 --> 01:47:12,439
Speaker 2: I think I played on that. I think I played

2183
01:47:12,439 --> 01:47:14,360
Speaker 2: in that game. Yeah, nine, he was there was.

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Speaker 3: Nine, and then there was the one before as well. Yeah,

2185
01:47:17,439 --> 01:47:18,040
Speaker 3: the four.

2186
01:47:18,240 --> 01:47:20,800
Speaker 9: I was at the four game, both Jets games. Yeah,

2187
01:47:20,840 --> 01:47:22,599
Speaker 9: both Jets and of course both losses.

2188
01:47:22,720 --> 01:47:23,040
Speaker 4: I don't know.

2189
01:47:23,680 --> 01:47:25,080
Speaker 2: I don't know what the Jets were doing in Nate

2190
01:47:25,160 --> 01:47:28,240
Speaker 2: Cadi and those games, but they just throw them off.

2191
01:47:28,080 --> 01:47:28,439
Speaker 4: They did.

2192
01:47:28,439 --> 01:47:31,639
Speaker 9: And he was never the same, and so was Blair Walsh.

2193
01:47:31,720 --> 01:47:33,680
Speaker 9: After he made that playoff miss.

2194
01:47:34,080 --> 01:47:36,599
Speaker 2: Sam, he went to Iowa. Oh Sam's now not here anymore.

2195
01:47:36,600 --> 01:47:40,360
Speaker 9: He exhibited scene from Jets to Mets and we're hearing

2196
01:47:40,360 --> 01:47:44,840
Speaker 9: about this deal that had another step closer to actually

2197
01:47:44,880 --> 01:47:47,200
Speaker 9: getting done here. So the Mets and Rangers have agreed

2198
01:47:47,240 --> 01:47:50,760
Speaker 9: to trade Max Scherzer to Texas. This according to s

2199
01:47:50,920 --> 01:47:52,639
Speaker 9: n Y, they were the first to break this news.

2200
01:47:53,280 --> 01:47:56,200
Speaker 9: Then came the idea that Max Scherzer had the no

2201
01:47:56,320 --> 01:47:59,560
Speaker 9: trade costs. He has waived that no trade clause. I

2202
01:47:59,560 --> 01:48:02,720
Speaker 9: should say they're still trying to work out some financials

2203
01:48:02,760 --> 01:48:05,120
Speaker 9: between the teams as far as settling that in this

2204
01:48:05,280 --> 01:48:08,479
Speaker 9: deal before it officially gets consummated. But Suzer is on

2205
01:48:08,560 --> 01:48:11,559
Speaker 9: board to Texas if both sides can work out the

2206
01:48:11,640 --> 01:48:15,840
Speaker 9: money from each end. Meantime, Moki Betts is not going

2207
01:48:15,840 --> 01:48:18,120
Speaker 9: to play tonight for the Dodgers against the Reds due

2208
01:48:18,120 --> 01:48:21,640
Speaker 9: to right ankle soreness. Two games are going on, well,

2209
01:48:21,640 --> 01:48:24,320
Speaker 9: it was supposed to be three games in Major League Baseball.

2210
01:48:25,120 --> 01:48:28,479
Speaker 9: Tigers are on the closing end of a four to

2211
01:48:28,520 --> 01:48:30,679
Speaker 9: nothing win. They're batting in the top of the nine

2212
01:48:30,800 --> 01:48:32,600
Speaker 9: top four to nothing against the Marlins game that you

2213
01:48:32,600 --> 01:48:34,759
Speaker 9: can see on FS one. Two games have been delayed

2214
01:48:35,200 --> 01:48:38,880
Speaker 9: supposed to start here Mets and Nationals because of inclinent weather.

2215
01:48:39,040 --> 01:48:42,240
Speaker 9: Same could be said for the Cubs and Cardinals, both scoreless,

2216
01:48:42,280 --> 01:48:45,800
Speaker 9: both yet to get underway, and a final. The Angels

2217
01:48:46,120 --> 01:48:48,320
Speaker 9: fell on the road in Toronto to the Blue Jays

2218
01:48:48,720 --> 01:48:52,840
Speaker 9: six to one. No deal between the Patriots and running

2219
01:48:52,880 --> 01:48:55,880
Speaker 9: back Ezekiel Elliott. He is still a free agent. As

2220
01:48:56,000 --> 01:48:59,559
Speaker 9: reports say they met today both sides, nothing was done.

2221
01:49:00,040 --> 01:49:03,639
Speaker 9: They're going to quote unquote stay in touch, whatever that means,

2222
01:49:03,640 --> 01:49:06,320
Speaker 9: maybe not lose their numbers, because there could be something

2223
01:49:06,760 --> 01:49:09,240
Speaker 9: where they both work something out of the future. And lastly,

2224
01:49:09,320 --> 01:49:13,760
Speaker 9: guys veteran secondary member Eli Apple is signing a one

2225
01:49:13,840 --> 01:49:17,439
Speaker 9: year deal with the Miami Dolphins, so had some depth

2226
01:49:17,960 --> 01:49:22,480
Speaker 9: to that secondary. Two guys that are far from secondary

2227
01:49:22,960 --> 01:49:26,280
Speaker 9: their primary Steve Hartman Carrie Rhoades.

2228
01:49:26,360 --> 01:49:28,639
Speaker 3: I like that, you like that. I like that primary

2229
01:49:29,360 --> 01:49:30,519
Speaker 3: underutilized word.

2230
01:49:30,800 --> 01:49:31,519
Speaker 4: And why is that?

2231
01:49:31,800 --> 01:49:33,880
Speaker 2: I have no idea. We got to change the talk

2232
01:49:33,920 --> 01:49:41,280
Speaker 2: about elite. Primary is more like there's a necessity there,

2233
01:49:41,520 --> 01:49:42,720
Speaker 2: you know, a primary.

2234
01:49:42,840 --> 01:49:43,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, I like that.

2235
01:49:43,960 --> 01:49:45,720
Speaker 9: I like that, And I also like how you got

2236
01:49:46,120 --> 01:49:48,920
Speaker 9: you Actually, for those who know, Steve gets to the

2237
01:49:48,960 --> 01:49:52,719
Speaker 9: show very early. Steve got in last night for this show.

2238
01:49:53,160 --> 01:49:54,719
Speaker 9: I was so surprised how early.

2239
01:49:54,560 --> 01:49:55,360
Speaker 3: You were your whole life.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, like, you know, Carrie actually got here a little

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01:49:59,680 --> 01:50:00,320
Speaker 2: early today.

2242
01:50:00,320 --> 01:50:01,000
Speaker 3: I got it literally.

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01:50:01,080 --> 01:50:04,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, you're the You're definitely are the door attendant.

2244
01:50:04,400 --> 01:50:06,479
Speaker 2: You're you're opening the door of everybody coming in. And

2245
01:50:06,760 --> 01:50:10,080
Speaker 2: I need peace. Remember I'm living with my ex wife, right,

2246
01:50:10,560 --> 01:50:14,240
Speaker 2: so well, there you go. Well, and she's a tremendous mom.

2247
01:50:14,320 --> 01:50:16,719
Speaker 2: But it's I need a little I need to clear

2248
01:50:16,760 --> 01:50:17,080
Speaker 2: my head.

2249
01:50:17,360 --> 01:50:19,720
Speaker 3: There you go. It's not it's not enormous. We all

2250
01:50:19,720 --> 01:50:22,040
Speaker 3: have our reasons, right, absolute.

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01:50:22,320 --> 01:50:24,880
Speaker 2: Ah B fan great stuff is always once again, we're

2252
01:50:24,880 --> 01:50:28,799
Speaker 2: coming alive from the tai Iraq dot com studios. Dalvin

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01:50:28,840 --> 01:50:32,240
Speaker 2: Coook is he going to be a Jet? I mean,

2254
01:50:32,479 --> 01:50:34,200
Speaker 2: what do you what do you expecting here? He's been

2255
01:50:34,240 --> 01:50:38,360
Speaker 2: praising the Jets. He's going to visit the Jets. It

2256
01:50:38,400 --> 01:50:41,639
Speaker 2: appears to be a no brainer. And if he does

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01:50:41,720 --> 01:50:44,479
Speaker 2: become a Jet. And obviously Brecee Hall showed a lot

2258
01:50:44,479 --> 01:50:47,720
Speaker 2: of promises rookie year before the injury, a lot of

2259
01:50:47,760 --> 01:50:52,800
Speaker 2: young players on that team. But yeah, and by the way,

2260
01:50:52,880 --> 01:50:56,160
Speaker 2: watching quarterback, obviously we got to see plenty of Dalvin Cook.

2261
01:50:56,800 --> 01:50:59,320
Speaker 2: And I found this interesting. I was talking to Bucky

2262
01:50:59,320 --> 01:51:03,560
Speaker 2: Brooks last week about the Vikings, like, I'm watching quarterback

2263
01:51:03,640 --> 01:51:05,960
Speaker 2: and we're seeing all these Dalvin Cook highlights where he's

2264
01:51:05,960 --> 01:51:08,639
Speaker 2: taken a swing pass and going six years for a touchdown. Yeah,

2265
01:51:08,680 --> 01:51:11,519
Speaker 2: and my son, younger son watching with me. He says,

2266
01:51:12,240 --> 01:51:15,080
Speaker 2: why do they let him go? And I thought that

2267
01:51:15,280 --> 01:51:19,360
Speaker 2: Bucking brought up a point. If you have an elite quarterback,

2268
01:51:20,800 --> 01:51:24,160
Speaker 2: you can get away with running back by committee. I

2269
01:51:24,160 --> 01:51:27,920
Speaker 2: mean Tom Brady is a prime example of that. Yeah,

2270
01:51:28,200 --> 01:51:31,360
Speaker 2: but if you're a middle of the road quarterback, the

2271
01:51:31,439 --> 01:51:34,880
Speaker 2: running backs are friend you need. You need that running back. Yes,

2272
01:51:35,520 --> 01:51:39,559
Speaker 2: and Kirk Cousins would fall into that category. But obviously

2273
01:51:39,560 --> 01:51:42,080
Speaker 2: the Jets have an elite quarterback in Aaron Rodgers, and

2274
01:51:42,320 --> 01:51:44,280
Speaker 2: he's had some great running backs in Green Bay over

2275
01:51:44,320 --> 01:51:48,240
Speaker 2: the years, but you know, not vital you know, parts

2276
01:51:48,240 --> 01:51:48,879
Speaker 2: of their offense.

2277
01:51:48,960 --> 01:51:52,920
Speaker 3: But Dalvin Cook's an elite running back. I've seen Dalvin

2278
01:51:52,920 --> 01:51:56,320
Speaker 3: Cook play since his Florida State days because they played Louisville. Yeah,

2279
01:51:56,520 --> 01:52:00,439
Speaker 3: he's always been elite. He's been elite forever. This guy

2280
01:52:00,439 --> 01:52:03,040
Speaker 3: out there in free agent and come in to your

2281
01:52:03,120 --> 01:52:06,439
Speaker 3: program excited to be there. You got to get a

2282
01:52:06,479 --> 01:52:08,479
Speaker 3: deal done and keep him there. He's one of those

2283
01:52:08,520 --> 01:52:12,040
Speaker 3: guys that can, like you said, catch a two yard swing,

2284
01:52:12,080 --> 01:52:13,080
Speaker 3: paths and tickets to the house.

2285
01:52:13,240 --> 01:52:16,439
Speaker 2: Well, Aaron Rodgers now has restructured his deal with the Jets.

2286
01:52:16,560 --> 01:52:16,760
Speaker 3: YEP.

2287
01:52:17,280 --> 01:52:20,040
Speaker 2: Now that's not by accident. I mean he's leaving what

2288
01:52:20,080 --> 01:52:22,599
Speaker 2: was it, thirty three million dollars on the table. Thirty

2289
01:52:22,600 --> 01:52:25,920
Speaker 2: five thirty five million dollars on the table sounds to

2290
01:52:25,960 --> 01:52:28,960
Speaker 2: me like, I mean, Dalvin Cook obviously is trying to

2291
01:52:29,000 --> 01:52:33,599
Speaker 2: get his value in a deal with any team right now.

2292
01:52:34,000 --> 01:52:36,519
Speaker 2: Looks like the Jets have positioned themselves to do just that.

2293
01:52:36,560 --> 01:52:38,280
Speaker 3: The Jets have positioned themselves to do that. But I

2294
01:52:38,320 --> 01:52:40,120
Speaker 3: also heard that Miami did the same thing, So I

2295
01:52:40,160 --> 01:52:42,840
Speaker 3: don't know what the hold up is. So we're hearing

2296
01:52:42,840 --> 01:52:44,840
Speaker 3: the rumors of what the numbers were in Miami, but

2297
01:52:45,240 --> 01:52:47,479
Speaker 3: they don't seem to be adding up, because if they were,

2298
01:52:47,920 --> 01:52:50,680
Speaker 3: and he was about just getting his dollar, he'd be

2299
01:52:50,680 --> 01:52:52,559
Speaker 3: in Miami too, because Miami has a good team as well.

2300
01:52:52,640 --> 01:52:54,439
Speaker 3: So there's something to miss there.

2301
01:52:55,160 --> 01:52:57,960
Speaker 2: Well, the Jets do have an embarrassment for an offensive coordinator,

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01:52:58,040 --> 01:52:58,320
Speaker 2: do they?

2303
01:52:58,400 --> 01:53:02,439
Speaker 3: I Corney Shop Let's son Peyton? Yeah, exactly? All right.

2304
01:53:02,439 --> 01:53:04,519
Speaker 2: Coming up on the other side, what should we expect

2305
01:53:04,520 --> 01:53:07,400
Speaker 2: as far as the baseball trade deadline is concerned? What

2306
01:53:07,520 --> 01:53:09,960
Speaker 2: will transpire this week in the NFL? We'll tell you

2307
01:53:10,000 --> 01:53:13,880
Speaker 2: this is Fox Sports Saturday.

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Speaker 3: Basically quick recovery from injury flakes it into She's the

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01:53:26,560 --> 01:53:28,920
Speaker 3: French legend on the school sheets.

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01:53:30,200 --> 01:53:35,680
Speaker 12: I'm I for taking the lead to the one when

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01:53:35,760 --> 01:53:44,800
Speaker 12: you when you.

2312
01:53:50,720 --> 01:53:57,000
Speaker 10: Also called the Lympi national cavity.

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Speaker 3: Wow, I was just like but but it was like

2314
01:54:03,760 --> 01:54:05,160
Speaker 3: on a on the pattern there.

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01:54:05,280 --> 01:54:08,639
Speaker 2: Well, that was Fox Television, followed by the French call.

2316
01:54:08,800 --> 01:54:13,439
Speaker 2: That was France's upset win against Brazil. UH and the

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Saturday, where you're coming to live from the

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Speaker 2: Tiraq dot Com studios. Course, we have a cast of

2324
01:54:37,080 --> 01:54:40,120
Speaker 2: a few here on the show. Chris jumps in late.

2325
01:54:40,160 --> 01:54:44,040
Speaker 2: By the way, Chris Uh, any concerns about our Women's

2326
01:54:44,320 --> 01:54:48,600
Speaker 2: World Cup team? Are they still on track to win

2327
01:54:48,680 --> 01:54:51,680
Speaker 2: a third consecutive one? Plenty of concerns right now. Just

2328
01:54:51,720 --> 01:54:53,880
Speaker 2: the two sides, the veterans and the young ones, are

2329
01:54:54,080 --> 01:54:57,520
Speaker 2: just not meshing well together. They've got some real problems

2330
01:54:57,560 --> 01:55:01,840
Speaker 2: on defense. It really took it really took a Rose

2331
01:55:01,920 --> 01:55:04,080
Speaker 2: level getting onto the field for them to really sort

2332
01:55:04,120 --> 01:55:06,880
Speaker 2: things out in the second half. Lindsay Horan has to

2333
01:55:06,920 --> 01:55:10,520
Speaker 2: get another goal on her second consecutive game. Like, I

2334
01:55:10,920 --> 01:55:15,800
Speaker 2: think the Netherlands are a better team than Portugal, but

2335
01:55:16,400 --> 01:55:19,960
Speaker 2: I think by dropping points you've now put yourself. I

2336
01:55:20,000 --> 01:55:21,920
Speaker 2: think they'll still be able to clear the group as

2337
01:55:22,000 --> 01:55:24,080
Speaker 2: long as they handle their business against Portugal. But I

2338
01:55:24,080 --> 01:55:27,040
Speaker 2: guess I wouldn't be shocked by anything. Well, I guess

2339
01:55:27,040 --> 01:55:30,680
Speaker 2: my question is, I mean, we have a different perspective

2340
01:55:30,720 --> 01:55:33,160
Speaker 2: here because of their dominance obviously, and.

2341
01:55:33,200 --> 01:55:35,000
Speaker 8: The first time they haven't won in a World Cup

2342
01:55:35,040 --> 01:55:38,760
Speaker 8: game in like, what, right eight years or so.

2343
01:55:38,200 --> 01:55:40,160
Speaker 2: So should we temper expectations.

2344
01:55:40,360 --> 01:55:42,040
Speaker 8: I think so, because this is always supposed to have

2345
01:55:42,040 --> 01:55:44,840
Speaker 8: been changing of the guard this year, Like you've got

2346
01:55:44,840 --> 01:55:50,600
Speaker 8: some of the veterans like Rapino and and Alex Morgan

2347
01:55:50,720 --> 01:55:53,960
Speaker 8: still playing, but they are relying a lot more on

2348
01:55:54,520 --> 01:55:57,320
Speaker 8: young women who have not played in World Cup before,

2349
01:55:57,320 --> 01:56:01,600
Speaker 8: like Trinity Rodman and so Smith and Sophia Smith delivered

2350
01:56:01,600 --> 01:56:04,480
Speaker 8: in the first game but hasn't delivered in another, and

2351
01:56:04,520 --> 01:56:06,920
Speaker 8: they're just gonna have to really put things together here.

2352
01:56:06,960 --> 01:56:08,560
Speaker 8: They're kind of expect to do this on the fly,

2353
01:56:08,640 --> 01:56:12,440
Speaker 8: and there's questions about that their manager and how Adanovsky

2354
01:56:12,880 --> 01:56:16,200
Speaker 8: has been handling these these lineups, so maybe a little

2355
01:56:16,200 --> 01:56:18,480
Speaker 8: bit of tempering. They should still be the favorite. But

2356
01:56:18,560 --> 01:56:21,960
Speaker 8: I believe coming into this everyone was like, oh, who's

2357
01:56:21,960 --> 01:56:23,800
Speaker 8: going to beat the US? I don't know. I could

2358
01:56:23,800 --> 01:56:25,840
Speaker 8: see a lot of people doing it. Other nations have

2359
01:56:25,960 --> 01:56:27,320
Speaker 8: caught up with us pretty well.

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Speaker 3: Well.

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Speaker 2: I don't know how we'll handle that if it happens,

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01:56:29,720 --> 01:56:32,320
Speaker 2: but I'm still rooting for our ladies out there to

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01:56:32,360 --> 01:56:34,840
Speaker 2: get it done. In the World Cup as an event,

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01:56:34,880 --> 01:56:38,160
Speaker 2: they have dominated BeFAN doing a great job as he

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Speaker 2: always does. And then a quick question for Brandon before

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Speaker 2: we go. Brandon, are you expecting any blockbuster deals for

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01:56:46,080 --> 01:56:48,400
Speaker 2: your padres come the trade deadline?

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Speaker 10: I don't think so. No, I don't think so.

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Speaker 2: You think Josh Haterer will remain a padre, Blake Snell

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01:56:54,680 --> 01:56:57,400
Speaker 2: will remain a padre. Blake's n Soto will be remain

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Speaker 2: a padre.

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Speaker 10: If anything, I think they move hater.

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01:57:00,400 --> 01:57:04,120
Speaker 2: So and you're okay with who Schwarz who's coming out

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Speaker 2: of the pen.

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01:57:04,880 --> 01:57:07,840
Speaker 10: Yeah, I'm fine with that. Really, Yeah, that was their

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01:57:07,880 --> 01:57:08,960
Speaker 10: original plan anyway.

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Speaker 2: Well, I know, but he's not Josh Hater. Now is

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01:57:11,080 --> 01:57:13,360
Speaker 2: he true?

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01:57:14,640 --> 01:57:15,760
Speaker 10: Of course it's not Josh Hater.

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01:57:16,320 --> 01:57:19,240
Speaker 2: I mean the one thing about Podrey's history which isn't great.

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01:57:19,600 --> 01:57:22,080
Speaker 2: They had a lot of great closers, obviously had a

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01:57:22,120 --> 01:57:24,200
Speaker 2: Hall of Famer in Trevor Hoffman, and it just seemed

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01:57:24,200 --> 01:57:26,960
Speaker 2: like they get one closer after another that becomes an

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01:57:27,000 --> 01:57:30,080
Speaker 2: All Star. So we'll see how this all plays out.

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01:57:30,560 --> 01:57:35,440
Speaker 2: As far as Major League Baseball and any blockbuster deals,

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01:57:35,640 --> 01:57:37,240
Speaker 2: I don't know. We always get a lot of noise

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Speaker 2: these last couple of days. I don't buy into any

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01:57:39,600 --> 01:57:42,000
Speaker 2: of it. I don't, although every once in a while

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01:57:42,040 --> 01:57:44,280
Speaker 2: there will be I mean, look at the Dodgers, They've

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01:57:44,360 --> 01:57:47,360
Speaker 2: come up with some huge deals in recent years. That

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01:57:47,440 --> 01:57:50,200
Speaker 2: the trade, the Mookie Bets deal that they got done, and.

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01:57:50,280 --> 01:57:51,520
Speaker 3: The shores of deal is a big deal.

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01:57:51,560 --> 01:57:51,720
Speaker 2: Though.

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01:57:51,880 --> 01:57:53,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, it moves the needle for the Rangers. I think

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01:57:53,680 --> 01:57:56,280
Speaker 3: the Rangers are, you know, obviously one of the most

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01:57:56,320 --> 01:57:59,560
Speaker 3: explosive teams in baseball, and so you get another picture

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01:57:59,560 --> 01:58:02,440
Speaker 3: in there and the hand that can get hots when

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01:58:02,480 --> 01:58:04,320
Speaker 3: Max is hot and he's right, that can help that

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Speaker 3: team a lot.

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Speaker 2: Well, look when z came to the Dodgers, which by

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01:58:06,880 --> 01:58:09,720
Speaker 2: the way they had the trade Turner throwing on that deal. Wow,

2402
01:58:10,920 --> 01:58:14,440
Speaker 2: and Chureser was undefeated for the Dodgers down the stretch,

2403
01:58:14,560 --> 01:58:18,080
Speaker 2: helping them get into the postseason. As far as NFL

2404
01:58:18,240 --> 01:58:22,120
Speaker 2: training camps are concerned, where are we right now in

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01:58:22,160 --> 01:58:22,760
Speaker 2: these camps?

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01:58:22,760 --> 01:58:24,640
Speaker 3: I mean it's the feeling out period.

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01:58:25,040 --> 01:58:28,240
Speaker 2: You remember those first that first week of training camp

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01:58:29,040 --> 01:58:31,520
Speaker 2: how much, because it doesn't matter what you do in

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01:58:31,560 --> 01:58:34,640
Speaker 2: the offseason to prepare for the long season. I would

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01:58:34,640 --> 01:58:36,160
Speaker 2: always imagine there's a little.

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Speaker 3: Shock value to the beginning of training. Yeah, those dog

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01:58:39,200 --> 01:58:41,880
Speaker 3: days are amongst a couple of the teams, I mean

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01:58:42,800 --> 01:58:44,880
Speaker 3: the Jets and the Browns who obviously came in ere early.

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Speaker 3: They played the Hall of Fame game. They've been there

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01:58:46,840 --> 01:58:49,560
Speaker 3: for a while now, so the excitement kind of.

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01:58:51,160 --> 01:58:53,200
Speaker 2: Tempers down a little bit to the point where you're

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01:58:53,920 --> 01:58:56,360
Speaker 2: icing your feet because you like, you just got to

2418
01:58:56,400 --> 01:58:59,120
Speaker 2: get used to the grind of everyday football life.

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01:58:59,160 --> 01:58:59,400
Speaker 4: Well.

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01:58:59,400 --> 01:59:04,560
Speaker 2: And then the Burrow injury, although obviously not super extensive

2421
01:59:04,600 --> 01:59:09,440
Speaker 2: hopefully for him, is a reminder again of it can

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01:59:09,480 --> 01:59:12,400
Speaker 2: be a season expectations go right away.

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01:59:12,600 --> 01:59:15,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean Burrows seems to just be what they're saying,

2424
01:59:15,680 --> 01:59:18,480
Speaker 3: a light calf strain, which is the best case scenario.

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01:59:18,560 --> 01:59:20,680
Speaker 3: But yeah, you have to go out and there's a

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01:59:20,800 --> 01:59:24,560
Speaker 3: level of nowadays, you have to practice the right way

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01:59:24,600 --> 01:59:27,360
Speaker 3: and cut some of those reps down. So we'll see.

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01:59:27,800 --> 01:59:29,840
Speaker 2: I was watching I guess it was the Chiefs in

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01:59:29,920 --> 01:59:32,720
Speaker 2: training camp, and they had the marshmallow helmets on their

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01:59:32,720 --> 01:59:37,040
Speaker 2: offensive lineman. Yeah, I'm like, what are we looking at?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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01:59:37,400 --> 01:59:39,880
Speaker 3: That does not help. It doesn't help stave.

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01:59:39,960 --> 01:59:43,360
Speaker 2: It's I mean, they're not even hitting anybody and they're

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01:59:43,400 --> 01:59:44,640
Speaker 2: worring marshmallow helmet.

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01:59:44,720 --> 01:59:46,760
Speaker 3: Well, Kelsey had one on as well, so I guess

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01:59:46,760 --> 01:59:49,040
Speaker 3: he's O line tight end. So you see it.

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Speaker 2: I look back at the day. I don't know how

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01:59:51,600 --> 01:59:53,960
Speaker 2: player survives back in the day. I don't know how

2439
01:59:54,280 --> 01:59:56,640
Speaker 2: you had to go through the grind. Your body has

2440
01:59:56,680 --> 01:59:58,120
Speaker 2: to get adjusted to it.

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01:59:58,240 --> 02:00:01,880
Speaker 3: So great stuff, Kerry, keep it right here. This is

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Speaker 3: Fox Sports Radio.