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Speaker 1: Hey, Hurdler's Emily a body here with another episode of Hurdle,

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Speaker 1: a podcast that talks to everyone from entrepreneurs to top

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Speaker 1: hurdles of sorts by leaning into wellness. Episode eighty two

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Speaker 1: coming at You Today with a runner and forty four

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Speaker 1: time marathon her Dorothy Beal. Some of you might know

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Speaker 1: her better, and she jokes about this today in the

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Speaker 1: episode as her Instagram name, which is mile Posts. I

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Speaker 1: was so happy to connect with Dorothy while she was

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Speaker 1: in town to run the New York City Marathon last weekend,

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Speaker 1: and she crushed it per usual, a sub four hour

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Speaker 1: is a powerhouse. There's just no better way to say it.

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Speaker 1: This woman, like I said, forty four time marathoner. In

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Speaker 1: twenty nineteen alone, she conquered six and in today's episode,

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Speaker 1: she recalls a time where she wasn't actually that much

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Speaker 1: times in college. It's something that her and I definitely

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Speaker 1: bond over. In today's episode to reflex on a moment

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Speaker 1: she comes back to Virginia where she moves back in

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Speaker 1: is history. In today's episode, we talk about everything from

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Speaker 1: her dear friends and a few helpful followers helped her

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Speaker 1: get through it. We also chat about her best running tips,

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Speaker 1: no doubt you guys are gonna love this episode as

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Speaker 1: always at Hurdle Podcast at Emily a Body. If you

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Speaker 1: have a Hurdle moment of your own, share or just

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Speaker 2: It's Emily at Hurdle dot us.

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Speaker 1: And also just a quick moment of so much gratitude

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Speaker 1: and appreciation for you guys. That always blows my mind

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Speaker 2: Today. I'm sitting down with Dorothy Beale.

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Speaker 1: She is, as of tomorrow, a forty four time marathon her.

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Speaker 1: So you guys might know Dorothy behind her wildly popular

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Speaker 1: make you feel beat down? Because I'm sure a lot

440
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Speaker 1: of people that are listening, Oh, I have a lot

441
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Speaker 1: of huge audience of beginners as well, So let's just

442
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Speaker 1: caveat that, like this is not yeah, your norm no,

443
00:22:57,840 --> 00:23:00,480
Speaker 1: but like you get like a weird like it must

444
00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:02,840
Speaker 1: be like an interesting dichotomy for you just to be like,

445
00:23:03,080 --> 00:23:05,080
Speaker 1: I feel so great after I'm done, but also I'm

446
00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:06,760
Speaker 1: like very cognizant that I'm doing a lot.

447
00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:12,040
Speaker 2: Yeah. So after Marine Corps, well, it poured rain.

448
00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:15,520
Speaker 3: It was a terrible weather day, and I was jumping

449
00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:17,679
Speaker 3: a lot of rain puddles, and so I woke up

450
00:23:17,840 --> 00:23:20,400
Speaker 3: very sore the next day. And I typically don't wake

451
00:23:20,480 --> 00:23:23,560
Speaker 3: up sore the next day after a marathon, and so

452
00:23:24,359 --> 00:23:26,520
Speaker 3: it kind of freaked me out a little bit where

453
00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:30,080
Speaker 3: I was like okay, and actually on Tuesday, I like

454
00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:33,200
Speaker 3: panic looked up, like how do you defer your race entry?

455
00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:37,000
Speaker 3: Like can I defer my race entry because I'm not somebody.

456
00:23:37,119 --> 00:23:39,879
Speaker 3: You know, I don't ever want I think when you

457
00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:43,119
Speaker 3: have a large social media following, it can be easy

458
00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:46,080
Speaker 3: to fall into feeling some sort of pressure, like you

459
00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:48,320
Speaker 3: have to do something because you said you were going

460
00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:52,080
Speaker 3: to do it, or that you're doing it because you

461
00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:55,840
Speaker 3: know it's content. And I don't ever want to be

462
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Speaker 3: like that. And so I was like, if my body

463
00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:03,680
Speaker 3: doesn't feel good by Thursday, like I'm not doing it

464
00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:08,120
Speaker 3: and that will suck, and you know, maybe some people

465
00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:10,040
Speaker 3: will judge me for it, but like, I want to

466
00:24:10,080 --> 00:24:12,240
Speaker 3: be running for the rest of my life, and so

467
00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:15,000
Speaker 3: I'm never going to do something that puts myself in

468
00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:20,439
Speaker 3: a situation where I jeopardize that. So yeah, so it

469
00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:23,840
Speaker 3: is a lot, and I am actually very tired. So

470
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Speaker 3: I am looking forward to taking a rest on Monday

471
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Speaker 3: and not running another marathon for a little bit, for

472
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Speaker 3: a little while, for a little while.

473
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Speaker 1: So after you crossed the finish line of your first marathon,

474
00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:40,399
Speaker 1: did you instantly know that you were going to do

475
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Speaker 1: it again?

476
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Speaker 3: So, actually, after I did Marine Corps, I came up

477
00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:49,720
Speaker 3: here and spectated New York City Marathon, and I mean,

478
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Speaker 3: I love running marathons. I think spectating a marathon rivals

479
00:24:55,560 --> 00:24:58,320
Speaker 3: running a marathon, like it is just so exciting to

480
00:24:58,359 --> 00:25:02,600
Speaker 3: see all these people realizing their dreams and you're screaming

481
00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:05,160
Speaker 3: and you lose your voice and like it's just so exciting.

482
00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:09,600
Speaker 3: And so I immediately was like, I have to do

483
00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:12,199
Speaker 3: another one, and so I signed up for Philly and

484
00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:15,119
Speaker 3: did so. I guess it was like a month and

485
00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:17,560
Speaker 3: a half after my first one. I did my second one,

486
00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:20,840
Speaker 3: and I went a little bit faster than my first one.

487
00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:24,000
Speaker 3: So then that also became a little bit of like, oh,

488
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Speaker 3: this is so fun. Now I know I can do

489
00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:28,920
Speaker 3: something impossible, but let's see how much better I can

490
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Speaker 3: do it?

491
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Speaker 2: You know. Yeah, I knew pretty immediately. I knew. I

492
00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:35,960
Speaker 2: knew pretty quickly. And then I mean, you did the

493
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Speaker 2: second one.

494
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Speaker 1: I feel like, when does the ball get rolling so

495
00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:41,920
Speaker 1: much that you're like, I'm just really good at this.

496
00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:46,520
Speaker 2: Yeah. See, I guess if I've done this many, I

497
00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:47,280
Speaker 2: am good at it.

498
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Speaker 3: I don't know, like I don't know. It just it

499
00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:55,879
Speaker 3: just happened, do you know what I mean? Like I

500
00:25:55,920 --> 00:26:00,480
Speaker 3: didn't set out to ever be this person. Like I

501
00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:03,480
Speaker 3: would see people that were walking around with like their

502
00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:06,720
Speaker 3: race jackets from races twenty years ago, and I would

503
00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:08,480
Speaker 3: look at that and I'd be like, that's so cool,

504
00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:11,080
Speaker 3: Like I want to be that person someday. But I

505
00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:14,720
Speaker 3: don't know that I ever actually really thought I could.

506
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Speaker 2: Be who I am right now? How would you describe

507
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Speaker 2: who you are right now?

508
00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:25,679
Speaker 3: I am somebody who has taken the pain in my

509
00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:30,879
Speaker 3: life and who continues to take whatever pain or turmoil

510
00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:36,040
Speaker 3: both from circumstances that happen and also just inside of me,

511
00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:40,960
Speaker 3: and uses that to help other people realize that they're

512
00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:45,840
Speaker 3: not alone and to help kind of like encourage people,

513
00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:48,280
Speaker 3: because you know, a lot of people say this and

514
00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:50,760
Speaker 3: it's so true, like if I can run a marathon,

515
00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:54,280
Speaker 3: anyone can. If I can change my life, anyone can.

516
00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:57,280
Speaker 3: But when you're in that point where you don't think

517
00:26:57,320 --> 00:26:59,840
Speaker 3: you can change your life, you're like nope, Like maybe

518
00:26:59,840 --> 00:27:03,040
Speaker 3: that girl can do it, but I can't. Everyone can

519
00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:06,040
Speaker 3: do it, Like it's within you to be able to change.

520
00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:09,680
Speaker 3: You just have to keep, you know, chipping away at it.

521
00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:15,800
Speaker 3: So yeah, I guess that was my roundabout answer. Yeah,

522
00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:19,720
Speaker 3: I don't know. I'm just like I have three wonderful children,

523
00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:24,320
Speaker 3: Like I have a life that is not without strife,

524
00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:28,440
Speaker 3: but I love it, and I you know, I've When

525
00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:31,520
Speaker 3: I was younger, I wanted to be an athlete, like

526
00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:34,760
Speaker 3: I just I wasn't good at anything. So it was

527
00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:37,760
Speaker 3: like I'd see girls wearing like T shirts that were

528
00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:40,639
Speaker 3: like from a soccer tournament, and like I wanted to

529
00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:43,720
Speaker 3: be that person, And like I am that person. Now

530
00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:47,760
Speaker 3: I am an athlete. Like when someone asked me what

531
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Speaker 3: I do, I'm really proud to say I'm a runner.

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Speaker 1: me a little bit then about so you're living in

550
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Speaker 1: Virginia at the time of your marathon with your mom,

551
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Speaker 1: and then kind of what happens from there for you.

552
00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:26,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, So I kept turning marathons. I realized that I

553
00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:30,600
Speaker 3: loved the running industry, so not just running the marathons,

554
00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:34,120
Speaker 3: but like I loved the business aspect of it, the

555
00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:37,080
Speaker 3: marketing aspect of it. I loved peril, I loved shoes,

556
00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:42,560
Speaker 3: and so I after college worked for Brooks, the running

557
00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:44,640
Speaker 3: shoe company. I was a field marketing rep. And then

558
00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:47,160
Speaker 3: after that I worked for this company called Moving Comfort

559
00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:50,760
Speaker 3: that was the first women's specific apparel company.

560
00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:52,160
Speaker 2: And I worked with.

561
00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:54,560
Speaker 3: The two women that founded it, and they were so

562
00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:57,120
Speaker 3: cool and so inspiring, and I wouldn't be who I

563
00:29:57,160 --> 00:30:00,840
Speaker 3: am without having worked with them. So I worked in

564
00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:03,840
Speaker 3: sales first, and then I became the product line manager

565
00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:08,160
Speaker 3: of Run Fitness. So I kind of had like a

566
00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:12,120
Speaker 3: bunch of different roles that now looking back, all kind

567
00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:18,040
Speaker 3: of like gave me the tools to turn like my

568
00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:20,880
Speaker 3: blog and social media and all that into a business.

569
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Speaker 3: And I mean it's a career now, you know, Like

570
00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:26,720
Speaker 3: I make way more than I ever made.

571
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Speaker 2: Working in an office.

572
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Speaker 3: I had my first kid in two thousand and six,

573
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Speaker 3: so three years after my first marathon, which at the

574
00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:38,880
Speaker 3: time I thought I was so old. And now I

575
00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:41,880
Speaker 3: look back and I'm like, you're twenty four, Like you

576
00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:44,040
Speaker 3: were such a baby and you had a baby.

577
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Speaker 2: But so yeah.

578
00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:49,600
Speaker 3: So I had my daughter Ky in two thousand and six,

579
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Speaker 3: and then in two thousand and eight and my son

580
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Speaker 3: Miles was born, and then in twenty ten, my son

581
00:30:56,440 --> 00:30:57,240
Speaker 3: Colton was born.

582
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Speaker 2: That sounds very planned out. None of them were planning.

583
00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:06,480
Speaker 2: And so talk to me about naming your kid Miles. Oh,

584
00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:10,560
Speaker 2: I love his name so much. It makes me so happy.

585
00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:13,360
Speaker 2: So my husband and I met at the gym. I

586
00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:14,520
Speaker 2: was running on the treadmill.

587
00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:16,640
Speaker 3: And I don't know about you, but like when I

588
00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:18,640
Speaker 3: am at the gym, I am at the gym to

589
00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:21,040
Speaker 3: work out, like I am not there for somebody to

590
00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:21,600
Speaker 3: talk to me.

591
00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:23,400
Speaker 2: I'm not trying to meet guys.

592
00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:25,920
Speaker 3: And so he came up to me on the treadmill

593
00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:28,240
Speaker 3: and I was just like, who is this guy? Like,

594
00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:31,040
Speaker 3: I am running, I am busy, And he asked me

595
00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:33,360
Speaker 3: some questions and said he wanted to train for a race,

596
00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:35,840
Speaker 3: and so I was like okay, and so I gave

597
00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:37,520
Speaker 3: him some websites that he should check out.

598
00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:40,040
Speaker 2: And then next time, I wonder what the originalist was.

599
00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:41,920
Speaker 3: I know, I was like trying to think back, I'm like,

600
00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:46,680
Speaker 3: what were those ones that I did? So he actually

601
00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:48,560
Speaker 3: went and checked him out and then came over next

602
00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:49,920
Speaker 3: time I was on the treadmill, and I was like, yeah,

603
00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:52,560
Speaker 3: I went to those those race websites and like I

604
00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:54,160
Speaker 3: think I'm going to pick this race and have you

605
00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:56,080
Speaker 3: run it and what do you think about it? And

606
00:31:56,120 --> 00:31:58,680
Speaker 3: so then I was like, this guy isn't hitting on me.

607
00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:01,360
Speaker 3: Maybe he really does want to know about running. And

608
00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:03,160
Speaker 3: I just happened to always be on the treadmill. So

609
00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:04,560
Speaker 3: I was like, all right, all right, I'll give him

610
00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:07,840
Speaker 3: a chance. But anyways, that's how we met. And my

611
00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:11,520
Speaker 3: husband proposed to me on the steps of the Lincoln

612
00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:15,720
Speaker 3: Memorial and so Miles's name is Miles Lincoln, named after

613
00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:20,320
Speaker 3: how we met and where he proposed, And Miles also

614
00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:23,280
Speaker 3: happens to be the name of the Marine Corps Marathon mascot,

615
00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:27,720
Speaker 3: So it's like it's just a special, special name, but

616
00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:29,959
Speaker 3: one hundred percent it has to do with running, Like

617
00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:33,560
Speaker 3: I can't I'm that person that named their kid Miles.

618
00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:34,520
Speaker 2: I love it.

619
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Speaker 1: When you look at the forty four marathons that you

620
00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:44,640
Speaker 1: have completed, do you have any particular marathon or memory

621
00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:47,000
Speaker 1: that stands out as a time where you really weren't

622
00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:50,200
Speaker 1: sure if you were going to be able to finish.

623
00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:54,360
Speaker 3: Actually in Berlin this year, I didn't. I was like,

624
00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:57,320
Speaker 3: I'm just gonna run walk it, like I had missed

625
00:32:57,360 --> 00:32:59,800
Speaker 3: a little chunk of training I did. This year has

626
00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:03,160
Speaker 3: been a tough year. My grandfather passed away. I just

627
00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:06,479
Speaker 3: have had a lot of things that it was like

628
00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:10,920
Speaker 3: life is just piling on, and so I was like, Okay,

629
00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:12,680
Speaker 3: I'm going to go to Berlin anyways, and if I

630
00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:15,480
Speaker 3: just have to like walk it, I'll walk it. And

631
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Speaker 3: I ended up having like a really great day and

632
00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:23,040
Speaker 3: finished and was so on top of the world because

633
00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:26,080
Speaker 3: I really had doubts that I would be able to

634
00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:29,800
Speaker 3: finish it, you know. But I think in most of

635
00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:33,040
Speaker 3: the marathons, there's a point that comes where I'm like,

636
00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:36,000
Speaker 3: you know, like when you hit sixteen miles, You're like.

637
00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:38,160
Speaker 2: Wow, I've run sixteen miles. I've gone really far, and

638
00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:41,400
Speaker 2: then you're like I have ten more to go, Like

639
00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:43,920
Speaker 2: this is so far. How am I going to do this?

640
00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:48,320
Speaker 3: I am already tired, And so I think, now when

641
00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:50,920
Speaker 3: that moment happens, I just remind myself that it's like

642
00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:53,200
Speaker 3: a wave and like you're going to feel high and

643
00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:54,720
Speaker 3: then you're going to feel low and it's going to

644
00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:57,360
Speaker 3: go back up again. So I don't kind of let

645
00:33:57,440 --> 00:34:01,120
Speaker 3: that I don't get as freaked out about not being

646
00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:03,480
Speaker 3: able to finish it. But also I just respect the

647
00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:06,560
Speaker 3: marathon distance and so if I had to walk the

648
00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:09,040
Speaker 3: rest of the way into a marathon, like I'm going

649
00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:10,880
Speaker 3: to walk the rest of the way into a marathon

650
00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:13,600
Speaker 3: and finish it, you know, like sort of ending up

651
00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:15,680
Speaker 3: in like a med ten or something. Yeah, of course,

652
00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:17,440
Speaker 3: like I'm going to finish it.

653
00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:20,440
Speaker 1: So yeah, And obviously, I mean the wave example is

654
00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:23,200
Speaker 1: a really good piece of advice to marathoners. But when

655
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Speaker 1: you reflect on some of the other things that you

656
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Speaker 1: have done, the other lessons that you have learned along

657
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Speaker 1: the way. What would you say is another really great

658
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Speaker 1: tidbit or two of advice that you would offer to

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Speaker 1: someone who's running a marathon, whether they're a beginner or

660
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Speaker 1: have they've done it a few times before.

661
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Speaker 3: I think that the most important thing to bring with

662
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Speaker 3: you to a marathon is an unwavering belief in yourself.

663
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Speaker 3: And so you know, like today I'm a little nervous,

664
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Speaker 3: but tomorrow morning when I get on the ferry, it's

665
00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:54,440
Speaker 3: I'm not going to be like I don't know if

666
00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:57,799
Speaker 3: I can do this. It's I am doing this. I

667
00:34:57,840 --> 00:35:01,440
Speaker 3: really truly believe. And like the mind body connection. And

668
00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:04,160
Speaker 3: I think when you talk yourself down or don't have

669
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Speaker 3: like full belief in yourself, like your body knows and

670
00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:12,279
Speaker 3: so you know, come miles sixteen, if you don't have

671
00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:15,240
Speaker 3: a full belief in yourself and your body gets tired,

672
00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:19,640
Speaker 3: you can mentally give up. But if you're strong mentally,

673
00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:22,440
Speaker 3: then it's like, Okay, well this hurts and I'm tired,

674
00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:24,960
Speaker 3: but I'm going to keep going. So I think that

675
00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:28,520
Speaker 3: you know, that's the most important part is just to

676
00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:33,440
Speaker 3: truly believe in yourself. You know, there's the regular stuff

677
00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:35,560
Speaker 3: of like start out slower.

678
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Speaker 2: Than you think.

679
00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:41,400
Speaker 3: But another tip that I have for new marathoners or

680
00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:44,319
Speaker 3: even betteran marathoners, because it took me a long time

681
00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:48,799
Speaker 3: to figure this out, is that like hydration and fueling

682
00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:53,440
Speaker 3: is so important, not just from the aspect of like

683
00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:56,000
Speaker 3: getting you through, but like, do you want to feel

684
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Speaker 3: good at the end of a marathon, Because if you

685
00:35:58,160 --> 00:36:01,440
Speaker 3: get your fueling and your hydration on, you will feel

686
00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:03,600
Speaker 3: good at the end. Sure, you're going to feel tired,

687
00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:05,920
Speaker 3: but like you're not going to feel like, you know,

688
00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:12,200
Speaker 3: you hit that wall. So I realize for myself, I

689
00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:16,799
Speaker 3: am a super heavy sweater, which is so gross, but

690
00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:20,400
Speaker 3: it's just like the way I am, that I needed

691
00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:25,640
Speaker 3: to start hydrating right away, and that I needed to

692
00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:30,520
Speaker 3: start fueling sooner. And so in some of my early marathons,

693
00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:33,879
Speaker 3: like I wouldn't start taking a gel or a chew

694
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Speaker 3: until I actually felt hungry, which is so weird. So

695
00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:41,040
Speaker 3: now I start, and it's going to sound early, but

696
00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:46,400
Speaker 3: I take a Gatorade Endurance gell at mile four and

697
00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:49,880
Speaker 3: I often hold my gels or my choes in my

698
00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:53,520
Speaker 3: hands because it's annoying. And then it makes me take them,

699
00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:58,520
Speaker 3: and so I take them roughly every four miles, mixing

700
00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:01,920
Speaker 3: in occasionally. You know, I alternate at water stops between

701
00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:05,920
Speaker 3: water and GATORAD and Durance formula.

702
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Speaker 1: That's actually really smart, the idea of holding at least

703
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Speaker 1: the first one in your hands so you don't forget

704
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Speaker 1: about it. I also fuel at least every four miles,

705
00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:18,759
Speaker 1: but definitely every like thirty minutes, so that's kind of

706
00:37:18,760 --> 00:37:20,799
Speaker 1: like my benchmark. I feel like the entire time I

707
00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:23,480
Speaker 1: was in Chicago, I was literally just like eating the

708
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Speaker 1: entire marathon.

709
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Speaker 2: Which and okay, and you had like the race of

710
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Speaker 2: your life. Yeah, it's so.

711
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Speaker 3: I had a friend who ran Berlin, who also had

712
00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:35,279
Speaker 3: the race of her life, and she ate more than

713
00:37:35,320 --> 00:37:37,840
Speaker 3: she's ever eaten bored before. She was like, I couldn't

714
00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:39,760
Speaker 3: believe it. I felt like I was eating every two seconds,

715
00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:40,160
Speaker 3: but she.

716
00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:43,520
Speaker 1: Flew every time that I couldn't remember when the last

717
00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:44,560
Speaker 1: time I ate was.

718
00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:46,640
Speaker 2: I was like, eat something, now, let's just do it.

719
00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:49,759
Speaker 2: Let's just do it. It really helps you. It's such

720
00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:50,480
Speaker 2: a game changer.

721
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Speaker 1: And I'm like you, I'm a super salty sweater, so

722
00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:56,440
Speaker 1: I need like the GATORAD and Durance chew and I

723
00:37:56,520 --> 00:37:58,359
Speaker 1: use the gummies like this is the first year I

724
00:37:58,360 --> 00:38:02,000
Speaker 1: did the choose usually a jealous person, but this is

725
00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:04,000
Speaker 1: the first year I switched because I just felt like

726
00:38:04,040 --> 00:38:06,000
Speaker 1: I was like adult trick or treating.

727
00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:06,560
Speaker 2: For ye.

728
00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:11,000
Speaker 3: Yes, it's like eating gummy bears, just like chewy or

729
00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:16,880
Speaker 3: gummy bears. And I see so many people that tie

730
00:38:17,120 --> 00:38:19,160
Speaker 3: the joy that they feel in a race to a

731
00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:20,120
Speaker 3: time on the clock.

732
00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:23,359
Speaker 2: And times are so cool, you know, like it is

733
00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:25,320
Speaker 2: so fun if you earn.

734
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Speaker 3: Your first sub four or BQ. They are so fun.

735
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Speaker 3: But I think that in order to fully enjoy every marathon,

736
00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:37,840
Speaker 3: you should have something about it that's making you happy

737
00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:39,800
Speaker 3: that has nothing to do with the time on the clock.

738
00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:45,480
Speaker 3: That whether that's high fiving little kids or choosing you know,

739
00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:48,120
Speaker 3: for me, I actively choose to be happy no matter

740
00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:50,600
Speaker 3: what my finished time is. I mean, of course I

741
00:38:50,680 --> 00:38:55,080
Speaker 3: love a faster finished time, but like I truly am

742
00:38:55,160 --> 00:38:58,520
Speaker 3: happy with whatever time I have because the marathon is

743
00:38:58,520 --> 00:39:00,920
Speaker 3: a gift, like it is. It's so special to be

744
00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:04,280
Speaker 3: able to complete, to physically be able to complete a marathon.

745
00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:07,440
Speaker 3: So it breaks my heart when I see people that

746
00:39:07,640 --> 00:39:10,719
Speaker 3: just finished a marathon and they're so down on themselves

747
00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:14,120
Speaker 3: because of literally some numbers on a clock, Like that's

748
00:39:14,120 --> 00:39:16,520
Speaker 3: such a silly thing if you really think about.

749
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Speaker 1: It, and it's just it's upsetting because that's them not

750
00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:24,840
Speaker 1: taking any consideration for the fourteen, sixteen, eighteen week journey

751
00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:26,919
Speaker 1: that they've been on to get there.

752
00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:29,960
Speaker 3: Well, And the thing is is it's just one day,

753
00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:33,279
Speaker 3: and the marathon doesn't owe you anything. So you can

754
00:39:33,360 --> 00:39:36,000
Speaker 3: train your butt off and you show up on that

755
00:39:36,120 --> 00:39:39,040
Speaker 3: day and you might deserve a really great time, but

756
00:39:39,120 --> 00:39:41,560
Speaker 3: like that's not how it works. Like you just get

757
00:39:41,600 --> 00:39:44,400
Speaker 3: that day. So whenever anyone's like, what's your goal of

758
00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:47,320
Speaker 3: the race, I say, to run the day and I

759
00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:49,080
Speaker 3: don't know what my body will give me that day.

760
00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:51,840
Speaker 3: And I you know, there have been a few magical

761
00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:53,840
Speaker 3: times where what I wanted in my head is what

762
00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:58,040
Speaker 3: my body gave me, and that was magic, But there's

763
00:39:58,080 --> 00:40:01,359
Speaker 3: been a lot of days where it didn't, and I'm

764
00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:06,480
Speaker 3: actively able to still be just as happy.

765
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Speaker 1: Have you ever been completely down and out after a marathon?

766
00:40:09,640 --> 00:40:12,560
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, so many, so my first, so many

767
00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:14,640
Speaker 3: of my first ones. I mean when I look at it,

768
00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:17,000
Speaker 3: look back at it now. This is the positive but

769
00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:19,960
Speaker 3: also the negative of like blogging and social media and

770
00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:20,680
Speaker 3: all that stuff.

771
00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:23,239
Speaker 2: Like I ran a BQ in.

772
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Speaker 3: Like almost every marathon that I ran, like it was

773
00:40:25,719 --> 00:40:27,920
Speaker 3: just like no big deal, Like I run a marathon,

774
00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:32,200
Speaker 3: got to be c and I was so Like I

775
00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:35,280
Speaker 3: remember I ran a three thirty five and I cried,

776
00:40:35,760 --> 00:40:38,080
Speaker 3: cried because that was like the worst time.

777
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Speaker 2: And I'm like, now, I like, I love the three

778
00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:44,360
Speaker 2: thirty five, you know what I mean. And I just

779
00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:46,480
Speaker 2: would beat myself up so much.

780
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Speaker 3: And so I think that is also why I'm able

781
00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:53,239
Speaker 3: to actively be happy, because that sucks and it's so stupid.

782
00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:57,359
Speaker 3: And you know, I'm no people listening to this, they

783
00:40:57,360 --> 00:41:01,000
Speaker 3: don't know what my fastest marathon is. Am I any

784
00:41:01,080 --> 00:41:04,720
Speaker 3: different because I was able to run a three eleven

785
00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:07,160
Speaker 3: at one point? Like, does that make me more of

786
00:41:07,200 --> 00:41:10,240
Speaker 3: a runner than somebody who's only just breaking four hours

787
00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:15,160
Speaker 3: right now? No? Absolutely not, And so like I'm not

788
00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:19,359
Speaker 3: going to put that on myself, you know what about physically? Yeah,

789
00:41:19,440 --> 00:41:22,480
Speaker 3: I don't know if it's just how I am or

790
00:41:22,560 --> 00:41:25,759
Speaker 3: who I am, but like I usually feel pretty good

791
00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:26,719
Speaker 3: after a marathon.

792
00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:29,239
Speaker 2: I love it. I know that sounds terrible to be like,

793
00:41:29,360 --> 00:41:30,480
Speaker 2: well I feel great.

794
00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:33,959
Speaker 3: Actually, Marine Corps that I just did is the most

795
00:41:34,040 --> 00:41:36,879
Speaker 3: beat up I've been from a marathon in a long time. Yeah,

796
00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:39,120
Speaker 3: and I'm sure some of that has to do with

797
00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:43,560
Speaker 3: it being the fifth marathon this year, but also just.

798
00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:44,680
Speaker 2: The weather conditions.

799
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Speaker 1: So yeah, So what other goals right now are on

800
00:41:48,440 --> 00:41:51,320
Speaker 1: your radar, whether it's running related or not running related.

801
00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:58,680
Speaker 3: Well, I'm running London in April, so that will finish

802
00:41:58,760 --> 00:42:02,680
Speaker 3: up World Marathon Majors six Star medals.

803
00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:05,600
Speaker 2: That's exciting for me because.

804
00:42:05,360 --> 00:42:07,799
Speaker 3: I dreamed of doing the Majors but thought it was

805
00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:10,400
Speaker 3: something that like I wouldn't get to do until I

806
00:42:10,440 --> 00:42:16,040
Speaker 3: was like fifty or sixty, you know. Other than that, Like,

807
00:42:16,120 --> 00:42:19,000
Speaker 3: I don't really, I don't know. It sounds silly, but

808
00:42:19,080 --> 00:42:24,080
Speaker 3: I don't like set goals in the sense that, like

809
00:42:24,160 --> 00:42:27,200
Speaker 3: I don't have a concrete thing, Like my goal every

810
00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:29,680
Speaker 3: day is to just be better than the day before.

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Speaker 2: You mentioned social media, so let's touch on that.

836
00:43:59,560 --> 00:44:02,680
Speaker 1: You said that obviously people started coming more and more

837
00:44:02,680 --> 00:44:05,040
Speaker 1: to your page and you started getting more and more followers.

838
00:44:05,400 --> 00:44:08,640
Speaker 1: What was that switch like for you, because obviously you

839
00:44:08,680 --> 00:44:10,399
Speaker 1: must have gotten to a point where you were like, wow,

840
00:44:10,440 --> 00:44:13,319
Speaker 1: this isn't just like my little corner of the internet now,

841
00:44:13,360 --> 00:44:15,120
Speaker 1: like this is like a place that people are coming

842
00:44:15,160 --> 00:44:17,640
Speaker 1: to for everything from just to like check in and

843
00:44:17,640 --> 00:44:20,800
Speaker 1: see how you're doing, to actual advice because they shared

844
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Speaker 1: at one point or another the singles that you did

845
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Speaker 1: when it came to running.

846
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's very very cool.

847
00:44:27,520 --> 00:44:29,840
Speaker 3: Like when I think about it, I'm like, oh my gosh,

848
00:44:29,880 --> 00:44:34,480
Speaker 3: Like it's it's hard to actually put the numbers into

849
00:44:34,520 --> 00:44:38,319
Speaker 3: realizing that those are that many people, you know, So

850
00:44:38,360 --> 00:44:41,960
Speaker 3: sometimes I forget and post as if like four people

851
00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:45,120
Speaker 3: are seeing it. Like I recently posted a photo of

852
00:44:45,280 --> 00:44:48,080
Speaker 3: just me running in Berlin and it was a downstride

853
00:44:48,120 --> 00:44:51,200
Speaker 3: and my skin is loose and I have cellulite, and

854
00:44:51,280 --> 00:44:55,000
Speaker 3: I posted it, but like you don't really think about

855
00:44:55,040 --> 00:44:59,480
Speaker 3: the magnitude and one point seven million people saw it

856
00:44:59,520 --> 00:45:02,880
Speaker 3: on faceboo book and then you're like, oh my gosh,

857
00:45:02,960 --> 00:45:05,920
Speaker 3: I just put this picture out of like my loose

858
00:45:05,960 --> 00:45:09,719
Speaker 3: skin in my celly, like and all these people have

859
00:45:09,840 --> 00:45:12,920
Speaker 3: seen it. This is weird, Like this going from like

860
00:45:13,400 --> 00:45:16,280
Speaker 3: the girl in high school, like I have keratosis pullars

861
00:45:16,320 --> 00:45:19,080
Speaker 3: on my arms and I would wear three quarter length

862
00:45:19,160 --> 00:45:21,719
Speaker 3: sleeve shirts because I was so self conscious about it.

863
00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:24,279
Speaker 3: And so I'm like, this is the girl that was

864
00:45:24,320 --> 00:45:27,280
Speaker 3: like covering her arms and now she's just like bearing

865
00:45:27,320 --> 00:45:28,640
Speaker 3: all on the internet, you know.

866
00:45:29,320 --> 00:45:33,720
Speaker 2: So it is. It's definitely like a weird but also

867
00:45:34,040 --> 00:45:34,719
Speaker 2: cool thing.

868
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Speaker 3: I do hope that I I hope I'm making a

869
00:45:38,520 --> 00:45:43,239
Speaker 3: difference and helping people. Originally, like when it first started out,

870
00:45:43,280 --> 00:45:46,160
Speaker 3: I think everything was very organic in the sense that

871
00:45:46,280 --> 00:45:51,640
Speaker 3: like people just randomly found me. And now because it

872
00:45:51,719 --> 00:45:54,560
Speaker 3: is the way that I make a living, like I

873
00:45:54,840 --> 00:46:01,320
Speaker 3: it's it's something that I actively learn, like what content

874
00:46:01,440 --> 00:46:04,800
Speaker 3: to put out or what people are interested in.

875
00:46:06,560 --> 00:46:08,560
Speaker 2: With the goal of.

876
00:46:09,680 --> 00:46:15,280
Speaker 3: The larger my platform is, the more ability I have

877
00:46:16,320 --> 00:46:22,080
Speaker 3: to help other people, and the more my voice is heard,

878
00:46:22,280 --> 00:46:26,480
Speaker 3: the larger my platform gets. So like for example, last year,

879
00:46:26,560 --> 00:46:31,000
Speaker 3: around Thanksgiving time, runners World posted this thing talking about

880
00:46:31,200 --> 00:46:35,520
Speaker 3: running off the cookies, and I commented back basically like

881
00:46:35,600 --> 00:46:38,440
Speaker 3: come on, Runners World, like do better, Like no one

882
00:46:38,480 --> 00:46:41,040
Speaker 3: needs the guilt the day after Thanksgiving, Like it's a

883
00:46:41,160 --> 00:46:44,399
Speaker 3: holiday for your family, No one needs to be told how.

884
00:46:44,280 --> 00:46:46,000
Speaker 2: Many cookies they need to run off.

885
00:46:46,600 --> 00:46:49,239
Speaker 3: And because I have a large platform. The way the

886
00:46:49,280 --> 00:46:52,680
Speaker 3: algorithm worked, my comment was bumped up to the top

887
00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:55,040
Speaker 3: and so then it had like eight hundred likes of

888
00:46:55,040 --> 00:46:58,200
Speaker 3: people agreeing like, hey, this is not cool, like ea,

889
00:46:58,239 --> 00:47:02,920
Speaker 3: the cookies, don't eat the cookies. And they issued an apology,

890
00:47:03,040 --> 00:47:05,560
Speaker 3: took down the post, and then interviewed me for an

891
00:47:05,680 --> 00:47:10,040
Speaker 3: article explaining why I'm passionate about not piling on food guilt.

892
00:47:10,600 --> 00:47:13,800
Speaker 3: And that wouldn't be they wouldn't listen to my voice

893
00:47:13,880 --> 00:47:20,840
Speaker 3: if I didn't have that large platform. So while it

894
00:47:20,960 --> 00:47:24,640
Speaker 3: one percent is me sharing my everyday life, like I'm

895
00:47:24,640 --> 00:47:29,200
Speaker 3: not you know, I'm not running marathons for Instagram. This

896
00:47:29,360 --> 00:47:32,080
Speaker 3: is me sharing my life, I do share it in

897
00:47:32,120 --> 00:47:35,200
Speaker 3: a way that I want to grow the platform because

898
00:47:35,239 --> 00:47:37,640
Speaker 3: I want to have a larger voice so I can

899
00:47:38,360 --> 00:47:39,240
Speaker 3: affect change.

900
00:47:39,320 --> 00:47:42,759
Speaker 1: Do you find that when things get really hard for

901
00:47:42,800 --> 00:47:45,879
Speaker 1: you personally that you want to completely pull away from

902
00:47:45,880 --> 00:47:46,480
Speaker 1: your platform.

903
00:47:46,640 --> 00:47:52,399
Speaker 3: Yes, And it's so so hard, and I actively try

904
00:47:52,440 --> 00:47:54,200
Speaker 3: to force myself not to do that.

905
00:47:54,600 --> 00:47:56,960
Speaker 1: What do you do to combat that or do you

906
00:47:57,000 --> 00:47:59,360
Speaker 1: ever actually just take a little bit of time then.

907
00:47:59,400 --> 00:48:01,440
Speaker 2: So I I actually have a skit.

908
00:48:01,520 --> 00:48:06,239
Speaker 3: I'm taking time off in December, like a break, taking

909
00:48:06,280 --> 00:48:08,240
Speaker 3: all the apps off my phone, Like I just need

910
00:48:08,560 --> 00:48:11,200
Speaker 3: a period of time to like just be me and

911
00:48:11,239 --> 00:48:15,600
Speaker 3: not be mile Posts because at this point it's kind

912
00:48:15,600 --> 00:48:19,160
Speaker 3: of I don't even know how to explain it. It's

913
00:48:19,200 --> 00:48:21,719
Speaker 3: like it's almost like a different person, you know what

914
00:48:21,800 --> 00:48:24,360
Speaker 3: I mean, Like I'm the same person, but it's also

915
00:48:24,560 --> 00:48:26,840
Speaker 3: this like when people meet me, they're like mile Posts,

916
00:48:26,840 --> 00:48:27,279
Speaker 3: and I'm like.

917
00:48:27,239 --> 00:48:32,320
Speaker 2: My name's Dorothy. Yeah, I'm a real person behind this thing.

918
00:48:34,200 --> 00:48:37,799
Speaker 2: So yeah, I am planning on taking some time off.

919
00:48:38,280 --> 00:48:43,759
Speaker 3: I try to just share it like I'm having a

920
00:48:43,880 --> 00:48:47,719
Speaker 3: terrible day, Like I'm gonna tell people I'm not having

921
00:48:47,760 --> 00:48:49,560
Speaker 3: a good day because I don't want it to be.

922
00:48:49,880 --> 00:48:53,160
Speaker 3: I don't want and I tell people this. Also, if

923
00:48:53,200 --> 00:48:55,799
Speaker 3: you come to my page and my page makes you

924
00:48:55,840 --> 00:48:59,880
Speaker 3: feel anything other than good, please unfollow me or mute me,

925
00:49:00,400 --> 00:49:03,799
Speaker 3: because I don't want you to open up Instagram and

926
00:49:04,160 --> 00:49:06,960
Speaker 3: feel bad about yourself, either because of what I said

927
00:49:07,080 --> 00:49:10,279
Speaker 3: or because of what I posted, or you know, maybe

928
00:49:10,320 --> 00:49:12,760
Speaker 3: you're going through a rough patch and it really annoys

929
00:49:12,800 --> 00:49:15,600
Speaker 3: you that this girl is running marathons around the world.

930
00:49:15,680 --> 00:49:18,440
Speaker 3: You know, like whatever reason it is you do for

931
00:49:18,520 --> 00:49:19,719
Speaker 3: your mental health.

932
00:49:19,760 --> 00:49:20,279
Speaker 2: You do that.

933
00:49:20,960 --> 00:49:25,880
Speaker 3: So I find that when I open Instagram and I

934
00:49:25,960 --> 00:49:29,200
Speaker 3: see somebody that while that woman has it all, like

935
00:49:29,280 --> 00:49:32,000
Speaker 3: she has a great career and she is beautiful and

936
00:49:32,040 --> 00:49:36,799
Speaker 3: look at her family. I love when that woman is like, yeah,

937
00:49:36,840 --> 00:49:40,279
Speaker 3: today really sucked, like and here's why, and like my

938
00:49:40,400 --> 00:49:42,840
Speaker 3: life may look great and it is great, Like my

939
00:49:42,960 --> 00:49:47,520
Speaker 3: life is great, but also my life deeply sucks sometimes,

940
00:49:47,640 --> 00:49:52,000
Speaker 3: you know. And so I just want people to not

941
00:49:52,120 --> 00:49:55,759
Speaker 3: feel alone in there also pain yea, in their trauma pain,

942
00:49:56,160 --> 00:49:56,719
Speaker 3: you know what I mean.

943
00:49:57,040 --> 00:49:58,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think it's hard to be it's hard

944
00:49:59,000 --> 00:50:03,920
Speaker 1: to beulnerable sometimes for fear of judgment. But the reality

945
00:50:04,040 --> 00:50:06,040
Speaker 1: is is that you're going to be judged whether you're

946
00:50:06,080 --> 00:50:08,040
Speaker 1: having a good day or you're having a bad day.

947
00:50:08,200 --> 00:50:12,840
Speaker 3: So I have I know different people handle comments differently

948
00:50:12,880 --> 00:50:15,880
Speaker 3: than I do, but I so when people would say

949
00:50:16,080 --> 00:50:18,040
Speaker 3: not nice things to me or judge me. There was

950
00:50:18,080 --> 00:50:20,920
Speaker 3: a period of time actually that the top Google search

951
00:50:21,000 --> 00:50:23,959
Speaker 3: getting people to my blog was to mile post gain weight,

952
00:50:24,560 --> 00:50:28,520
Speaker 3: and like that deeply affected me and made me feel terrible.

953
00:50:29,040 --> 00:50:31,400
Speaker 3: And I started to realize like I was giving so

954
00:50:31,640 --> 00:50:37,759
Speaker 3: much power to other people. And so now like if

955
00:50:37,800 --> 00:50:43,279
Speaker 3: someone comments a positive comment, it's lovely and I'm so

956
00:50:43,320 --> 00:50:46,759
Speaker 3: thankful that you're choosing to lift me up. But also

957
00:50:47,480 --> 00:50:50,719
Speaker 3: I don't know you and you don't fully know me,

958
00:50:51,440 --> 00:50:54,040
Speaker 3: and so I'm not going to let all the praise

959
00:50:54,440 --> 00:50:56,600
Speaker 3: go to my head and I'm not going to let

960
00:50:56,680 --> 00:50:59,279
Speaker 3: the negative pull me down. So it's just kind of

961
00:50:59,320 --> 00:51:03,400
Speaker 3: like this middle ground. So when a real friend, somebody

962
00:51:03,400 --> 00:51:08,000
Speaker 3: that I know in real life says something that those

963
00:51:08,000 --> 00:51:10,920
Speaker 3: are the comments that I hold and I'm like, Okay,

964
00:51:11,560 --> 00:51:14,640
Speaker 3: this woman that I respect or you know, this man

965
00:51:14,920 --> 00:51:17,640
Speaker 3: said this. Okay, now you can feel good.

966
00:51:17,719 --> 00:51:20,640
Speaker 1: And I've gone like out of my way to have

967
00:51:20,719 --> 00:51:23,319
Speaker 1: conversations with the people that I really care about to

968
00:51:23,440 --> 00:51:28,080
Speaker 1: reiterate that I need that actual like you give me

969
00:51:28,120 --> 00:51:30,319
Speaker 1: a phone call, shoot me a text, like let's have

970
00:51:30,360 --> 00:51:33,640
Speaker 1: a real conversation, because it's easy in this world of

971
00:51:33,680 --> 00:51:37,280
Speaker 1: social media to have a lot of these quick interactions

972
00:51:37,320 --> 00:51:39,440
Speaker 1: and think that you're in the loop. But just because

973
00:51:39,480 --> 00:51:42,160
Speaker 1: you watch what's going on in my day doesn't mean

974
00:51:42,200 --> 00:51:44,880
Speaker 1: you know what's going on in the rest of my life. Yes, absolutely,

975
00:51:45,200 --> 00:51:48,040
Speaker 1: and so it's been like so critical for me, especially

976
00:51:48,040 --> 00:51:50,720
Speaker 1: within the last couple of years, just to be like hey,

977
00:51:50,920 --> 00:51:53,239
Speaker 1: and also on my part making the effort to check

978
00:51:53,239 --> 00:51:55,560
Speaker 1: in with the people that I care about and having

979
00:51:55,560 --> 00:51:58,880
Speaker 1: these really important conversations and knowing that it's important to

980
00:51:58,920 --> 00:52:02,040
Speaker 1: tell them what you need. When I would sense myself

981
00:52:02,080 --> 00:52:05,680
Speaker 1: getting frustrated that some of my best friends either from

982
00:52:05,800 --> 00:52:07,640
Speaker 1: you know, from growing up or from college, like I

983
00:52:07,680 --> 00:52:09,560
Speaker 1: wouldn't talk to them in a while, and I'd get

984
00:52:09,560 --> 00:52:12,120
Speaker 1: frustrated in my head, I'd be like, well, they're just

985
00:52:12,160 --> 00:52:14,520
Speaker 1: seeing what I'm doing on social media, so they think

986
00:52:14,600 --> 00:52:17,120
Speaker 1: they're in the loop. But until I tell them that

987
00:52:17,120 --> 00:52:19,319
Speaker 1: that's how I feel that, I'm just going to keep

988
00:52:19,320 --> 00:52:21,839
Speaker 1: feeling that way. So it's like a two way street, right,

989
00:52:22,160 --> 00:52:23,040
Speaker 1: It's a two way street.

990
00:52:23,160 --> 00:52:26,040
Speaker 3: So there is a period of time where I was

991
00:52:26,200 --> 00:52:28,759
Speaker 3: and this is in the past four years, where I

992
00:52:29,040 --> 00:52:33,160
Speaker 3: was deeply depressed and not showering for like over a

993
00:52:33,160 --> 00:52:35,680
Speaker 3: week at a time. And when I say not showering,

994
00:52:35,719 --> 00:52:38,920
Speaker 3: I still was running. So I'd run not shower and

995
00:52:39,239 --> 00:52:43,200
Speaker 3: it was because I couldn't be alone with myself in

996
00:52:43,200 --> 00:52:47,040
Speaker 3: the shower, like it was just too vulnerable of a thing.

997
00:52:47,840 --> 00:52:51,759
Speaker 3: And I was deeply not okay. Thankfully, I had a

998
00:52:51,800 --> 00:52:56,319
Speaker 3: friend who was like, Dorothy, you are not okay, Like

999
00:52:56,360 --> 00:52:58,399
Speaker 3: I love you, but you need help and you don't

1000
00:52:58,440 --> 00:53:03,400
Speaker 3: even realize how like bad you've gotten. There were so

1001
00:53:03,640 --> 00:53:06,759
Speaker 3: many people in my life that are close friends that

1002
00:53:06,880 --> 00:53:08,600
Speaker 3: were like I had no idea.

1003
00:53:09,320 --> 00:53:09,879
Speaker 2: They're like, you.

1004
00:53:09,840 --> 00:53:13,319
Speaker 3: Look so happy on Instagram and I was like, well, yeah,

1005
00:53:13,360 --> 00:53:16,680
Speaker 3: I was happy in that one moment of that whole day.

1006
00:53:17,000 --> 00:53:19,440
Speaker 3: So it's not that that moment was fake, but that

1007
00:53:19,520 --> 00:53:22,160
Speaker 3: was only five seconds of my day, right, you know

1008
00:53:22,239 --> 00:53:25,920
Speaker 3: what I mean? And I just realized that, Like I

1009
00:53:28,000 --> 00:53:30,759
Speaker 3: it's like you said, like you have to tell your

1010
00:53:30,960 --> 00:53:34,160
Speaker 3: friends what's actually going on, you know, like maybe you

1011
00:53:34,200 --> 00:53:36,880
Speaker 3: don't feel comfortable because I can only talk about this

1012
00:53:36,960 --> 00:53:40,760
Speaker 3: in hindsight. Like when I was going through this, I

1013
00:53:40,800 --> 00:53:43,719
Speaker 3: could not. I couldn't post on Instagram that, Like I mean,

1014
00:53:43,760 --> 00:53:46,239
Speaker 3: I don't even fully in the moment. I don't even

1015
00:53:46,239 --> 00:53:48,680
Speaker 3: think I fully realized how depressed I was, you know,

1016
00:53:50,760 --> 00:53:54,680
Speaker 3: But just being being able to tell people like that

1017
00:53:54,840 --> 00:53:57,319
Speaker 3: is also just Instagram. So like I'm going to call

1018
00:53:57,360 --> 00:53:58,839
Speaker 3: you and ask you how you are, and I want

1019
00:53:58,880 --> 00:54:01,279
Speaker 3: you to tell me the truth. And I'm going to

1020
00:54:01,320 --> 00:54:04,080
Speaker 3: call you and I'm going to tell you this is

1021
00:54:04,120 --> 00:54:04,719
Speaker 3: how it is.

1022
00:54:04,960 --> 00:54:07,279
Speaker 1: This is how it is. Yeah, Yeah, it's a lot

1023
00:54:07,280 --> 00:54:08,200
Speaker 1: of pressure sometimes.

1024
00:54:08,719 --> 00:54:12,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, well I think we live in this era of

1025
00:54:12,080 --> 00:54:15,479
Speaker 3: social media. It's like a it's a pressure filled time,

1026
00:54:16,840 --> 00:54:21,040
Speaker 3: you know, and I haven't figured out how to combat that.

1027
00:54:21,719 --> 00:54:24,799
Speaker 1: And I think it's interesting because I noticed with the

1028
00:54:24,840 --> 00:54:27,480
Speaker 1: more people that follow me and like trying to keep

1029
00:54:27,560 --> 00:54:30,880
Speaker 1: up with the Joneses and trying to make sure that

1030
00:54:31,160 --> 00:54:34,920
Speaker 1: I literally had a nightmare the other night that I

1031
00:54:34,960 --> 00:54:37,759
Speaker 1: had gotten a listener email I love you, guys. I

1032
00:54:37,800 --> 00:54:40,840
Speaker 1: got a listener email that like slipped through the cracks

1033
00:54:40,960 --> 00:54:44,160
Speaker 1: and I didn't answer it. And I was out during

1034
00:54:44,160 --> 00:54:46,399
Speaker 1: the day and I came back home and someone had

1035
00:54:46,440 --> 00:54:49,520
Speaker 1: come and robbed my apartment and took all my stuff,

1036
00:54:49,560 --> 00:54:51,880
Speaker 1: and I left a note and they said, I emailed

1037
00:54:51,920 --> 00:54:55,880
Speaker 1: you and you didn't respond to me. And I just

1038
00:54:56,000 --> 00:54:59,239
Speaker 1: really felt like you didn't care about me. And I

1039
00:54:59,280 --> 00:55:02,040
Speaker 1: remember like looking down and realizing that like my most

1040
00:55:02,080 --> 00:55:04,759
Speaker 1: valuable possessions, which are these two rings I wear every day,

1041
00:55:04,960 --> 00:55:07,080
Speaker 1: we're still on my hands, and that at the end

1042
00:55:07,120 --> 00:55:08,839
Speaker 1: of the day, like the things that they took were

1043
00:55:08,880 --> 00:55:11,280
Speaker 1: just things, and that I was going to be okay

1044
00:55:11,320 --> 00:55:13,560
Speaker 1: and I just needed to check back in on my relationships.

1045
00:55:13,600 --> 00:55:17,280
Speaker 1: But holy geez, like that's what I'm having a dream about,

1046
00:55:17,360 --> 00:55:19,600
Speaker 1: Like I'm having a dream that like I am messing

1047
00:55:19,719 --> 00:55:21,600
Speaker 1: up with the people that I don't even know what

1048
00:55:21,640 --> 00:55:23,799
Speaker 1: I care so deeply about, And this is where I'm

1049
00:55:23,800 --> 00:55:25,799
Speaker 1: at in my life, Like this is what's I think

1050
00:55:25,800 --> 00:55:26,399
Speaker 1: it's also good.

1051
00:55:26,440 --> 00:55:30,200
Speaker 3: I mean, of course, like I really truly do care

1052
00:55:30,400 --> 00:55:32,640
Speaker 3: about the people that follow me that send me messages,

1053
00:55:32,719 --> 00:55:34,920
Speaker 3: Like I'm happy for them. I love when they send

1054
00:55:34,960 --> 00:55:38,000
Speaker 3: me messages. I want to help celebrate their life too.

1055
00:55:38,600 --> 00:55:43,200
Speaker 3: But also it's like, you have friends and people that

1056
00:55:43,239 --> 00:55:46,799
Speaker 3: are physically around you and with you. Why are you

1057
00:55:46,920 --> 00:55:50,239
Speaker 3: investing so much of your effort and people you'll never

1058
00:55:50,440 --> 00:55:52,640
Speaker 3: even meet or know? You know, And that's not to

1059
00:55:52,680 --> 00:55:56,719
Speaker 3: say that you can't encourage those people and take time

1060
00:55:56,760 --> 00:55:59,680
Speaker 3: out to respond to them, but like, do you give

1061
00:55:59,760 --> 00:56:02,600
Speaker 3: those people more of your attention in your life than

1062
00:56:02,680 --> 00:56:04,040
Speaker 3: like your actual friends?

1063
00:56:04,280 --> 00:56:04,480
Speaker 1: Right?

1064
00:56:04,600 --> 00:56:06,280
Speaker 3: This year is the first year that I have given

1065
00:56:06,320 --> 00:56:10,480
Speaker 3: myself permission to delete. Like, I can't respond to every

1066
00:56:10,560 --> 00:56:14,080
Speaker 3: direct message I get, like at a minimum one hundred

1067
00:56:14,120 --> 00:56:17,680
Speaker 3: direct messages today, and some of them are quick and

1068
00:56:17,719 --> 00:56:20,200
Speaker 3: I can fire it off. But like it's a lot

1069
00:56:20,239 --> 00:56:22,399
Speaker 3: of time on Instagram. I spend a lot of time

1070
00:56:22,440 --> 00:56:24,759
Speaker 3: on Instagram, and so I have gotten to a point

1071
00:56:24,760 --> 00:56:25,480
Speaker 3: where I'm like, you know.

1072
00:56:25,440 --> 00:56:29,480
Speaker 2: What, it's okay to just hit delete.

1073
00:56:29,520 --> 00:56:32,800
Speaker 3: Sometimes it doesn't mean you don't care about what they're asking.

1074
00:56:32,920 --> 00:56:35,440
Speaker 3: It just means that you can't.

1075
00:56:35,120 --> 00:56:35,600
Speaker 2: Do it all.

1076
00:56:35,800 --> 00:56:38,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you can't do it all, that's okay. What

1077
00:56:38,760 --> 00:56:41,399
Speaker 1: else do you think? I mean, that's obviously one thing

1078
00:56:41,400 --> 00:56:43,200
Speaker 1: in your life that you've given yourself a little bit

1079
00:56:43,200 --> 00:56:45,800
Speaker 1: of grace with. What else would you say over the

1080
00:56:45,880 --> 00:56:48,600
Speaker 1: last few years, even including that difficult time that you

1081
00:56:48,640 --> 00:56:51,360
Speaker 1: went through that you mentioned that you have, how have

1082
00:56:51,400 --> 00:56:53,799
Speaker 1: you learned in other ways to give yourself a little

1083
00:56:53,800 --> 00:56:54,440
Speaker 1: bit of grace?

1084
00:56:56,120 --> 00:57:00,839
Speaker 3: So I think part of why I fell into that

1085
00:57:00,960 --> 00:57:05,640
Speaker 3: depressed state is because I wasn't giving myself grace. And

1086
00:57:05,680 --> 00:57:08,840
Speaker 3: so now I just like I just pass it out freely,

1087
00:57:09,400 --> 00:57:13,200
Speaker 3: like it's like you do anything that you know, because

1088
00:57:13,200 --> 00:57:16,440
Speaker 3: it's like it's so easy when you mess up on

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00:57:16,520 --> 00:57:19,640
Speaker 3: something to like get down on yourself, and I'm somebody

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00:57:19,640 --> 00:57:21,800
Speaker 3: who can very easily get down on myself, and so

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Speaker 3: I'm just like, nope, moving right on past that one.

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Speaker 3: Or like you messed up, okay, We're gonna go right

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00:57:28,320 --> 00:57:31,160
Speaker 3: past that too, Or you said something stupid, or you

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00:57:31,200 --> 00:57:34,480
Speaker 3: offended somebody like you're gonna say sorry, and then if

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00:57:34,520 --> 00:57:38,680
Speaker 3: they can't forgive you, you're going to move past that too,

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Speaker 3: Like you're just going to keep quickly moving past things

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Speaker 3: because otherwise it's just so easy to have all that

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Speaker 3: stuff weigh you down, right, and then you know, then

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Speaker 3: you're not You can't like live your life the way

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Speaker 3: you're supposed to live your life if you're way down.

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Speaker 3: The thing is, though, is like who tells you how

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00:57:58,680 --> 00:57:59,960
Speaker 3: you're supposed to live your life?

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Speaker 2: You know? True?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Well I just I don't. I don't want to

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00:58:07,200 --> 00:58:07,880
Speaker 3: be wayed down.

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Speaker 2: I don't want that shit. I don't want that emotional jump.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, because yeah, it really is so easy for me

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Speaker 3: to beat myself up.

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Speaker 2: And I don't know if that's a learned behavior or

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Speaker 2: just who I am.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but I think a lot of people share in

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00:58:25,120 --> 00:58:28,720
Speaker 1: that feeling that are all our own worst critics. But

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Speaker 1: the best thing that you know, and you even said before,

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00:58:33,000 --> 00:58:35,480
Speaker 1: is like how I talk to myself? Like I have

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00:58:35,600 --> 00:58:39,760
Speaker 1: the ability to talk to myself with kindness, and that's

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Speaker 1: something that a lot of people are still learning, right.

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Speaker 3: So one of my favorite things that I did so

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Speaker 3: a couple of years ago, I was out running and

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Speaker 3: I saw this mailbox and it was painted and it

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Speaker 3: said love letters on it, and I thought to myself,

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Speaker 3: I'm going to write myself a love letter. And so

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00:58:55,400 --> 00:58:57,920
Speaker 3: I wrote myself a love letter and there was all

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Speaker 3: these It was like, I love your strong legs because

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Speaker 3: they take you through marathons even though you have cellulite

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Speaker 3: and they rub and that's annoying. And he was like

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Speaker 3: with every compliment I gave myself, I also was like, well,

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Speaker 3: I can learn to appreciate my arms because it's carrying

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Speaker 3: my kids. But it's like it wasn't a full on

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00:59:23,080 --> 00:59:25,880
Speaker 3: love letter. Yeah, And it was like, okay, so I'm

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00:59:25,880 --> 00:59:29,440
Speaker 3: gonna write that letter. I'm gonna write out whatever comes

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Speaker 3: to mind. And then a month from now, I'm gonna

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00:59:32,320 --> 00:59:34,800
Speaker 3: write myself another love letter, and I'm going to see

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00:59:34,840 --> 00:59:39,440
Speaker 3: if I can just say I love your legs or

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00:59:40,120 --> 00:59:44,680
Speaker 3: you have beautiful eyes without giving the caveat every single

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00:59:44,680 --> 00:59:47,600
Speaker 3: time of like, well you know what I mean. And

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Speaker 3: it sounds so silly, but.

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Speaker 2: It really really.

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Speaker 3: Helps me because I constantly have to come up with

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00:59:56,040 --> 01:00:01,320
Speaker 3: new things of being like I love that you are

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01:00:01,440 --> 01:00:04,280
Speaker 3: interested in other people's marathons, you know, like you have

1141
01:00:04,320 --> 01:00:07,000
Speaker 3: to come up with these things that are new, and

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01:00:07,040 --> 01:00:10,960
Speaker 3: it builds you up, you know, right, because who would

1143
01:00:10,960 --> 01:00:13,280
Speaker 3: write a love letter? Like if it was you know,

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01:00:13,320 --> 01:00:15,680
Speaker 3: you're writing a love letter to your husband, like I

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01:00:15,760 --> 01:00:17,520
Speaker 3: love you even though.

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Speaker 2: You smell like it's like you wouldn't write that. You

1147
01:00:19,640 --> 01:00:21,840
Speaker 2: would never write that, so like, why are you doing

1148
01:00:21,840 --> 01:00:22,680
Speaker 2: that to yourself?

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Speaker 1: I did an exercise earlier this year where we were

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01:00:25,480 --> 01:00:28,160
Speaker 1: supposed to write like a letter and it wasn't branded

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Speaker 1: like a love letter or any kind of letter, just

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01:00:30,200 --> 01:00:33,360
Speaker 1: like a letter to ourselves. And I realized in that letter,

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01:00:33,440 --> 01:00:36,240
Speaker 1: like how much negative stuff I had to say to myself.

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Speaker 1: And it was a really pivotal moment for me, realizing

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01:00:39,400 --> 01:00:42,360
Speaker 1: that I'd been kind of also spiraling in such a

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01:00:42,360 --> 01:00:45,280
Speaker 1: way with my eating patterns and just like trying to

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01:00:45,440 --> 01:00:48,280
Speaker 1: over exercise a bad diet and just like a lot

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01:00:48,280 --> 01:00:51,600
Speaker 1: of negative self talk going on that for me. After

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01:00:51,640 --> 01:00:53,440
Speaker 1: I wrote that letter and I read it at we

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01:00:53,480 --> 01:00:55,800
Speaker 1: had we did this exercise where we read it out loud,

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Speaker 1: and it was like I heard it. When I heard

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01:00:59,240 --> 01:01:01,920
Speaker 1: myself say these things, I was like, what are you doing?

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Speaker 1: And I mean it really turned things around for me,

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01:01:04,960 --> 01:01:08,160
Speaker 1: Like I was really able to shift the dialogue, and

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01:01:08,400 --> 01:01:11,280
Speaker 1: I actually recorded a hurdle moment on that about ways

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01:01:11,320 --> 01:01:14,000
Speaker 1: to get rid of that negative self talk. But I

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01:01:14,040 --> 01:01:17,040
Speaker 1: think it's just when you write down you see the

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01:01:17,600 --> 01:01:19,840
Speaker 1: things that are happening in your mind, like and you're

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01:01:20,000 --> 01:01:24,360
Speaker 1: able to actually physically see them. It's such a game changer,

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Speaker 1: Like such a game changer, for sure. It really is crazy.

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Speaker 1: But we have the power to change our thoughts.

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Speaker 2: And that's I love. That's cool. Okay, so we're going

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Speaker 2: to start winding down here.

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Speaker 1: I asked you a question similar to this before, but

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Speaker 1: I'd love just to get a new take on it.

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Speaker 1: You on Instagram have all of these people that are

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01:01:43,040 --> 01:01:46,480
Speaker 1: following along with you, and they see this woman who

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01:01:46,520 --> 01:01:49,440
Speaker 1: at times is like open to sharing like her body,

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01:01:49,560 --> 01:01:52,160
Speaker 1: just as it is with the cellulite and with whatever

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01:01:52,200 --> 01:01:55,080
Speaker 1: else it comes with, you know, and the imperfections. When

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01:01:55,120 --> 01:01:57,720
Speaker 1: you look in the mirror, what is it that you see?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a tough question because I can very easily

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01:02:04,520 --> 01:02:09,800
Speaker 3: pick myself apart. It's very easy to do that. But

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01:02:10,040 --> 01:02:12,520
Speaker 3: I try to just look in the mirror and be like,

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01:02:12,560 --> 01:02:16,800
Speaker 3: you're beautiful for me. I think the way I see

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01:02:16,840 --> 01:02:20,439
Speaker 3: myself in the mirror has changed as my daughter has

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01:02:20,560 --> 01:02:25,080
Speaker 3: gotten older. She is almost as tall as me, and

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01:02:25,800 --> 01:02:30,240
Speaker 3: we are like our bodies are so similar. And so

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Speaker 3: I look at her like she comes downstairs, and I'm

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01:02:33,240 --> 01:02:37,240
Speaker 3: just like, I worth the cutest human ever. Like I

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01:02:37,400 --> 01:02:40,920
Speaker 3: just look at her and she's like such a cool girl.

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01:02:41,200 --> 01:02:42,960
Speaker 2: And I'm like, oh my gosh, I love her. And

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01:02:42,960 --> 01:02:44,560
Speaker 2: then I'm like, Okay.

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01:02:44,680 --> 01:02:48,920
Speaker 3: So her thighs look exactly like my thighs, like they

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01:02:49,040 --> 01:02:50,840
Speaker 3: are going to rub for the rest of her life.

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Speaker 3: And she is beautiful. So if I can see how

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01:02:54,200 --> 01:02:58,840
Speaker 3: beautiful she is, why can't I see that beauty? So

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Speaker 3: that has helped me to just look in the mirror

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Speaker 3: and see somebody who's beautiful.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it is tough.

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01:03:06,160 --> 01:03:08,920
Speaker 3: There's times when I'm like, like, so I shared this

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01:03:08,960 --> 01:03:10,320
Speaker 3: photo recently that.

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01:03:11,880 --> 01:03:12,920
Speaker 2: You know, my my.

1204
01:03:12,920 --> 01:03:14,840
Speaker 3: The skin on my stomach is loose from having three

1205
01:03:14,920 --> 01:03:18,320
Speaker 3: kids and I have cellulite. And even though it was

1206
01:03:18,440 --> 01:03:21,680
Speaker 3: maybe a photo that some people would say, we're not flattering,

1207
01:03:21,840 --> 01:03:25,919
Speaker 3: I didn't like. I wasn't embarrassed by it. But then

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01:03:25,960 --> 01:03:30,200
Speaker 3: some woman shared it and was like, you look at

1209
01:03:30,200 --> 01:03:33,280
Speaker 3: this woman, it's so great. She's sharing a photo of

1210
01:03:33,320 --> 01:03:37,680
Speaker 3: all her saggy skin. And I was like, oh, saggy skin,

1211
01:03:37,920 --> 01:03:40,200
Speaker 3: it's not what you think of me. And in that

1212
01:03:40,320 --> 01:03:43,800
Speaker 3: moment was the first moment that I actually started being

1213
01:03:43,840 --> 01:03:46,480
Speaker 3: critical of that photo, because I wasn't critical of it

1214
01:03:46,560 --> 01:03:47,480
Speaker 3: up into that moment.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, it's interesting. I think it's just a.

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01:03:53,640 --> 01:03:56,400
Speaker 3: Uh work in progress every day and a choice to

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01:03:56,480 --> 01:03:58,480
Speaker 3: like look in the mirror and see somebody beautiful.

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Speaker 1: You have the opportunity right now to offer the Dorothy

1219
01:04:03,400 --> 01:04:06,000
Speaker 1: who's just getting out of college, she's moving back in

1220
01:04:06,080 --> 01:04:08,360
Speaker 1: with her mom. She's not sure what she wants to do,

1221
01:04:08,440 --> 01:04:11,680
Speaker 1: and she's you know, one half marathon down, going through

1222
01:04:11,720 --> 01:04:13,760
Speaker 1: that Hurtle moment. You have an opportunity right now to

1223
01:04:13,840 --> 01:04:15,840
Speaker 1: offer her one piece of advice.

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01:04:16,040 --> 01:04:19,880
Speaker 2: What do you tell her? To keep going?

1225
01:04:21,120 --> 01:04:25,280
Speaker 3: Because running is going to change her life, but she

1226
01:04:25,360 --> 01:04:29,080
Speaker 3: doesn't know that, and it would be so easy for

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01:04:29,200 --> 01:04:32,840
Speaker 3: her at that moment in time to be frustrated and.

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01:04:32,760 --> 01:04:37,200
Speaker 2: To just give up. And so yeah, to keep going.

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01:04:37,600 --> 01:04:42,320
Speaker 3: And I'd give that advice to myself right now, you know, like,

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Speaker 3: just keep going.

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Speaker 1: I meant to ask you this favorite marathon you've ever run?

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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, this is so hard because I so

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01:04:52,560 --> 01:04:54,320
Speaker 1: have so mandy to pick from it. I know, well,

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01:04:54,360 --> 01:04:57,080
Speaker 1: I love Marine Corps obviously because it was my first

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Speaker 1: and it was my first SUP four and it was

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01:04:59,280 --> 01:05:03,160
Speaker 1: my first bee key you and I've run it eleven

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01:05:03,240 --> 01:05:07,760
Speaker 1: times now. But there's also this whole world of marathons

1238
01:05:07,840 --> 01:05:14,120
Speaker 1: out there, and gosh, Tokyo and Berlin they just I mean,

1239
01:05:14,240 --> 01:05:16,720
Speaker 1: every time I tell people the stories of them, like

1240
01:05:16,760 --> 01:05:18,040
Speaker 1: my face just lights up.

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01:05:18,080 --> 01:05:19,320
Speaker 2: They were so amazing.

1242
01:05:20,040 --> 01:05:24,480
Speaker 3: So yeah, it's going to be hard to say just one,

1243
01:05:24,920 --> 01:05:26,600
Speaker 3: but I'd say those three so far.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much for hanging out with me. Please

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01:05:30,160 --> 01:05:32,040
Speaker 1: take a moment and leave a quick review of the

1246
01:05:32,080 --> 01:05:35,040
Speaker 1: podcast by clicking the link with the description to this episode.

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Speaker 1: We all face multiple hurdles in life. I want to

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01:05:37,920 --> 01:05:39,880
Speaker 1: hear about yours. Reach out to me at Emily at

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01:05:39,960 --> 01:05:42,640
Speaker 1: Hurdle dot us. Connect with the podcast on Instagram and

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01:05:42,720 --> 01:05:45,200
Speaker 1: Twitter at Hurdle podcast Dorothy.

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Speaker 2: How do they keep up with you? Give me the details.

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01:05:48,720 --> 01:05:52,160
Speaker 3: I am Mile posts on just about everything, so am

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Speaker 3: I L E.

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Speaker 2: P O S T S.

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Speaker 3: And then I also have a body positive account that

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Speaker 3: I run called I have a Runner's Body, so you

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01:06:01,640 --> 01:06:02,960
Speaker 3: can find me there.

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Speaker 2: Awesome.

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Speaker 1: I am at Emily a body another hurdle conquered. Catch

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Speaker 1: you guys next time.