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Speaker 1: Still the Place with Laura Layton, Courtney Thorn Smith.

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Speaker 2: And Daphnews and Niga an iHeartRadio podcast.

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Speaker 3: High Lady, my goodness, you're right.

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Speaker 2: So good to see you back in the studio after

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Speaker 2: for the first time and even before the holidays.

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Speaker 4: It's been so nice to hug you actually, like, not

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Speaker 4: just you know, is that our first hug.

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Speaker 3: I'm so sorry. That was so lame on my part.

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Speaker 4: It was it was fine. I mean, I realized we

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Speaker 4: were all sort of distracted. There are things going on

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Speaker 4: as always, but I feel like, you know, I'm seeing.

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Speaker 2: You, like, Okay, we're gonna make you a contact. I'm

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Speaker 2: going to give you afterwards.

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Speaker 3: That was so lame on my part.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we haven't seen each other and so long. It's

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Speaker 1: a crazy time in LA but we've.

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Speaker 3: Been through a lot.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and it's ongoing. It's not I don't think we

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Speaker 4: can say, oh, it was a crazy time.

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Speaker 1: We're not going to relaxed.

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Speaker 2: We're going to go bring some shoes and slippers to

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Speaker 2: a friend after this lost her whole entire home.

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Speaker 3: I go, can you meet?

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Speaker 2: She goes, No, We're going back to the old place

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Speaker 2: to dig through more to see if I can save

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Speaker 2: anything all the things.

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Speaker 3: This is terrible, but.

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Speaker 1: That's la.

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Speaker 2: I mean, we're driving here and we saw another smoke

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Speaker 2: up in the hues like miles and miles away.

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Speaker 4: But yeah, yeah, still still a very stressful time. So

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Speaker 4: we're here to see your favors, and yeah, we get.

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Speaker 1: To have our a little bit of an escape a

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Speaker 1: couple of hours to just play and have fun and

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Speaker 1: go visit Delaver was in the nineties.

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Speaker 4: Distracting fun times for sure.

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Speaker 3: Ye yeah, all right.

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Speaker 4: Shall we get into it.

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Speaker 3: We have a recast today, let's do it.

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Speaker 4: This is episode number twenty. Title of this episode is

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Speaker 4: Peanut Butter and Jealousy. It is Sydney's second episode. We'll

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Speaker 4: be a little boiler, her last for the season. So

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Speaker 4: here we go.

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Speaker 3: All right.

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Speaker 4: We open in Billie's bedroom at night, and we have

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Speaker 4: another opportunity to enjoy Andrew Shoe dancing around the room

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Speaker 4: while he's getting dressed and at this moment he's just

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Speaker 4: wearing a button down and boxers, thinking it's not kind

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Speaker 4: of risky business, waiting risky business, And it was just

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Speaker 4: this great montage with him putting on the rest of

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Speaker 4: his shoes and his socks and the rest of his outfit,

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Speaker 4: which is revealed to be tucks for his date tonight

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Speaker 4: with Alison at the Advertiser's ball, and then we cut

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Speaker 4: to the living room where Billy walks out in his

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Speaker 4: tucks and he needs help with his cuffs. Alison is

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Speaker 4: dressed and he's sparkly silver short dress, and she helps.

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Speaker 1: Billy super sparkly, super short. And I remember that dress.

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Speaker 1: I remember that it was heavy.

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Speaker 3: You look great in it, actually heavy, yeah, so nineties. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: you look great in it.

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Speaker 4: And she helps him with his cuffs, and Jake is

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Speaker 4: there too. He seems a little distracted. Allison says, this

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Speaker 4: feels like prom night and she hopes she will embarrass

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Speaker 4: herself in front of her work big wigs, and Jake

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Speaker 4: comments that maybe taking Billy might not help with them,

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Speaker 4: so out the window. Jake then notices Joe, who is

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Speaker 4: heading up the stairs to her apartment, and Jake tells

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Speaker 1: The last scene of the last episode. As we're starting

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Speaker 1: to get this and did you notice in this episode

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Speaker 4: And picking up those storylines, was like, so fun, let's

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Speaker 4: find out what happens with this.

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Speaker 2: Well, this is a huge intro for Joe because this

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Speaker 2: is what she ran from. We're all starting to find

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Speaker 2: out she ran from a domestic violent situation.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so that.

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Speaker 2: Explains some of her secretness, some of her pushing people away,

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Speaker 2: we're going to meet him this episode.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, you're right. We learned so much about her

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Speaker 4: through this character. Intense scenes coming up, certainly threatening, and

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Speaker 3: She should be the nicest guy Linda such a sweet guy.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Allison is concerned, and Jake reveals that he hasn't

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Speaker 4: So then we cut to Joe. She's in her apartment

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Speaker 3: There's a knock of the door.

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Speaker 2: Can we stop for a second and show that that

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Speaker 2: sexy little vixen hopping into her black jeans with their

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Speaker 3: Like to be that person? You are that person, You

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Speaker 3: were that person. It's like memorialized on.

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Speaker 4: Film, and I was like, oh my god, that was me.

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Speaker 3: I had a moment.

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Speaker 4: You should And by the way, I had a moment too,

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Speaker 4: and I'm glad you stopped to.

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Speaker 3: Talk about it.

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Speaker 4: And if you haven't seen this episode, people go back

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Speaker 4: to Paramount Plus and watch this episode.

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Speaker 2: She doesn't mean it because she like got her you know,

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Speaker 2: got into her little tight jeans with those little black guns.

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Speaker 2: And then she hears a rejection like sorry, we're going

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Speaker 2: with someone else, and she's like feeling herself, you know.

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Speaker 3: Well, screw that, I'm going out with Jake, you know,

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Speaker 2: Usually she wouldn't be like, you know, normally you get

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Speaker 3: You're like, oh, what's wrong with me? But not Joe,

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Speaker 4: She heard those messages. And Jake comes to the door

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Speaker 4: and he has a completely different intention, as we know,

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Speaker 4: he's trying to maybe tell her something, but she just

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Speaker 4: steamrolls and says, nope, I've had six job rejections and

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Speaker 4: you're taking me out somewhere loud and numbing. Jake says,

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Speaker 4: you know, we have to talk, and Joe says talking

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Speaker 4: is not in my agenda.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and did you notice. What I like about this

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Speaker 1: scene is did you notice that Joe's bookshelves are still empty?

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Speaker 1: She's still not quite moved in, but she's wonder of

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Speaker 1: Allison's dolls. Maybe Allison because but I thought, what a

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Speaker 1: great choice for set decoration, because you don't seem like

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Speaker 3: Yeah, totally. I remember ended talking about that.

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Speaker 2: Actually, like, we just don't want to have a lot

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Speaker 2: except for black and white photos of you that you

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Speaker 4: Their art Syne they're you, and that's such an interesting

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, okay, and I'm going to bring up something later.

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Speaker 3: Another scene.

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Speaker 4: So exciting, So she says, no, talking's not my agenda.

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Speaker 4: Reality ends here, she says, as they leave the apartment together,

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Speaker 4: and we cut to Jane and Michael's apartment at night,

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Speaker 4: where Jane is taking Rhonda's measurements for her wedding dress

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Speaker 4: while Sydney, sitting cross legged on the couch's giving a

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Speaker 1: Chewing gum with a huge sweater with huge buttons. You

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Speaker 1: and Josie both had on the biggest sweaters, Like Josie,

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Speaker 2: A million buttons up that sweater all the way up

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Speaker 4: I'm always gonna have some sort of wardrobe to come out.

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Speaker 2: I'm in the seaterst scene.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna wear buttons. Yeah, this is what I wear,

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Speaker 3: my little crop sweater, but button it.

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Speaker 4: All the way to the top.

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Speaker 1: Yep and chomping on gum. I was you made the

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Speaker 4: It was like such freedom. There was such permission with Sydney,

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Speaker 1: Was a full like glory of the case. Is this

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, so that's it. You know, she's trying to

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Speaker 4: do her job. Jane is trying to do her job,

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Speaker 4: and she's making recommendations for the design and everything she

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Speaker 4: forgot to measure her. In same she hops up to

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Speaker 4: help measure Randa and Jane stops her say, hey, I

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Speaker 4: have three weeks to make this wedding dress. First of all, really,

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Speaker 4: and she says to Sid, so do you mind? Sydney

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Speaker 3: I'm Jane's totally.

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Speaker 4: Understandably exasperated, and she complains to Randa that Sid is

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Speaker 4: relying on her to provide her with her friends, or

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Speaker 3: And why doesn't you want that to with this person?

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Speaker 2: Like I would want that to be if they talk

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Speaker 4: Other, especially as opposed to the dysfunctional relationship that we

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Speaker 2: Like yeah pick this one, yeahmer one, Yeah totally.

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Speaker 4: If you ownly knew what kind of dysfunction.

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Speaker 3: Totally.

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Speaker 4: So then we got two shooters at night where Jake

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Speaker 4: and Joe are at the bar. Joe is lamenting that

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Speaker 4: about another annoying guy who not only didn't hire her,

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Speaker 4: her and says, you know, I have to tell you

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Speaker 4: something important, Jake. Jake stops her, Yes, Joe, and he

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Speaker 4: tells her that he saw her ex husband outside their

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Speaker 3: And she freezes, and she's she just freezes.

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Speaker 1: The entire tone shifted because.

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Speaker 2: She's talking about all these other things, and then all

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Speaker 2: of a sudden she looks around and she's vulnerable.

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Speaker 3: That fear is real, Yeah, for sure, you know, because

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Speaker 3: he could be anywhere over the shoulder, looking over you know.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, that made it real, the terror in

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Speaker 2: her bones still when he goes, I saw your husband,

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Speaker 2: and it's it's so tricky because he doesn't get it

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Speaker 1: And she told her, I told him you weren't here,

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Speaker 1: I said the letter back. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and you're right.

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Speaker 4: She felt so vulnerable. She's like, I need to get

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Speaker 3: Yeah, she goes into survival mode.

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Speaker 4: So then we cut to the ballroom where Billy and

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Speaker 4: the advertising party.

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Speaker 1: You love dancing on camera.

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Speaker 2: I got to see a window into you playing Alison

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Speaker 2: that I hadn't yet. That's what one of the things

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Speaker 3: Have I love it? Every time? Jake says that because

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Speaker 4: You don't have the I'm sure you knew at the time.

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Speaker 4: He is pining a little bit, and she's slow dancing

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Speaker 1: I was yelling at myself. Were you guys yelling at me?

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Speaker 4: It was very disappointing. We were disappointed.

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Speaker 1: We were disappointed, were very disappointed. Now we're not mad,

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Speaker 4: And Billy was clearly bummed, and he said, well, sure

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Speaker 3: And I have a question, is he still holding Larry's food?

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Speaker 4: You know, I think he disposed of that something. He

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Speaker 4: So then we cut to the village hotel at night

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Speaker 2: She's asserting herself, she has new life. But the fact

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Speaker 1: Your hair was very set. Yeah, Like I remember you

444
00:19:32,840 --> 00:19:34,760
Speaker 1: hated when they come and spray your hair with hair spray,

445
00:19:34,800 --> 00:19:37,400
Speaker 1: and that time you let them like they really said it.

446
00:19:37,560 --> 00:19:41,480
Speaker 4: Yes, yes, yes, hold still yeah, And so she cautiously

447
00:19:41,560 --> 00:19:46,280
Speaker 4: joins them. He greets her as Beth, and he tells

448
00:19:46,320 --> 00:19:50,160
Speaker 4: her he's drinking soda water, not alcohol and that, and

449
00:19:50,200 --> 00:19:52,639
Speaker 4: she finds out that her father actually was the one

450
00:19:52,640 --> 00:19:55,879
Speaker 4: who told him where to find her. Joe tells Charles

451
00:19:55,880 --> 00:19:57,920
Speaker 4: that she only came here to tell him that their

452
00:19:57,920 --> 00:20:02,159
Speaker 4: marriage is over, and he tells Beth and she corrects him.

453
00:20:02,200 --> 00:20:05,720
Speaker 3: It's Joe. He tells yep again.

454
00:20:05,440 --> 00:20:07,320
Speaker 2: Again, like it used to be before I met you,

455
00:20:07,359 --> 00:20:08,920
Speaker 2: and you didn't like it because that's a boy's name.

456
00:20:08,920 --> 00:20:10,840
Speaker 3: You called me, Beth, Get it through your head.

457
00:20:11,040 --> 00:20:16,000
Speaker 4: And he tells her that he went to rehab after

458
00:20:16,160 --> 00:20:18,080
Speaker 4: she left, and he has stopped drinking.

459
00:20:18,040 --> 00:20:19,919
Speaker 2: The place that you wanted me to go to, and

460
00:20:19,960 --> 00:20:20,879
Speaker 2: I'm finally there.

461
00:20:21,080 --> 00:20:22,440
Speaker 3: Has that ever happened to you? Guys?

462
00:20:22,920 --> 00:20:26,720
Speaker 2: Where you're with somebody and you want them to change,

463
00:20:26,760 --> 00:20:28,679
Speaker 2: and they're, you know, I don't know if it's drinking

464
00:20:28,800 --> 00:20:31,959
Speaker 2: or whatever, and then you finally have had enough and

465
00:20:32,040 --> 00:20:35,679
Speaker 2: you leave, and then they come back afterwards and they're like,

466
00:20:35,720 --> 00:20:37,080
Speaker 2: I'm changing, I'm changing.

467
00:20:37,240 --> 00:20:39,200
Speaker 3: Has that happened? Raise your hand? Oh yeah, of course,

468
00:20:39,480 --> 00:20:41,640
Speaker 3: because that's what men do, don't.

469
00:20:41,440 --> 00:20:43,520
Speaker 1: You often find like I've had that I've broken up

470
00:20:43,560 --> 00:20:46,240
Speaker 1: with somebody. They come back change, but over time it

471
00:20:46,280 --> 00:20:49,520
Speaker 1: doesn't last. If you telcome them back, it doesn't change.

472
00:20:49,560 --> 00:20:52,919
Speaker 1: Even if they you don't welcome them back, they go

473
00:20:53,000 --> 00:20:54,960
Speaker 1: back to who we are, like we care who we

474
00:20:55,000 --> 00:20:56,400
Speaker 1: are in so many ways.

475
00:20:56,119 --> 00:20:58,639
Speaker 2: But you wanted you spent months saying will you please

476
00:20:58,720 --> 00:21:00,800
Speaker 2: like read the self help book or will you please

477
00:21:00,880 --> 00:21:03,399
Speaker 2: try to shift and hear me? And let's can we

478
00:21:03,440 --> 00:21:05,399
Speaker 2: at least you know whatever date and I don't know

479
00:21:05,440 --> 00:21:07,680
Speaker 2: what it is. I know it mine where, but it's

480
00:21:07,720 --> 00:21:12,719
Speaker 2: like they just can't right. And then suddenly, yeah, they

481
00:21:12,760 --> 00:21:14,760
Speaker 2: have it all figured out and it's just like too late.

482
00:21:15,359 --> 00:21:18,479
Speaker 1: But it's my experiences, it's to win you back. It

483
00:21:18,520 --> 00:21:20,760
Speaker 1: doesn't really, of course, yeah, because.

484
00:21:20,520 --> 00:21:23,160
Speaker 4: He's trying to convince her in this, in this conversation,

485
00:21:23,359 --> 00:21:25,640
Speaker 4: all the reasons why, hey, look how great I am,

486
00:21:25,680 --> 00:21:28,000
Speaker 4: Look how much I've changed, And we find out later

487
00:21:28,040 --> 00:21:30,240
Speaker 4: of course this is he doesn't true.

488
00:21:30,720 --> 00:21:33,000
Speaker 3: But she's duck. She's very like.

489
00:21:33,600 --> 00:21:35,800
Speaker 4: Pulled in by it, and she's you know, listening and

490
00:21:35,840 --> 00:21:38,840
Speaker 4: sort of torn. It makes her really think and yeah,

491
00:21:38,880 --> 00:21:41,720
Speaker 4: and he insists that he's not trying to win her back,

492
00:21:41,760 --> 00:21:44,040
Speaker 4: but that really part of his recovery is to try

493
00:21:44,040 --> 00:21:47,480
Speaker 4: to heal old wounds and apologilogist he's hurt, and so

494
00:21:47,840 --> 00:21:50,399
Speaker 4: Joe starts to really look conflicted here and he says

495
00:21:50,400 --> 00:21:52,760
Speaker 4: to her, I'm really sorry from what I for what

496
00:21:52,840 --> 00:21:55,640
Speaker 4: I stole from you, yeah, which really speaks to her,

497
00:21:55,920 --> 00:21:59,320
Speaker 4: and so she's torn. And he then says, well, I'm

498
00:21:59,320 --> 00:22:03,400
Speaker 4: only around for few days, asking her if she will

499
00:22:03,400 --> 00:22:05,720
Speaker 4: have lunch with him, just lunch, he says, while he's

500
00:22:05,760 --> 00:22:08,560
Speaker 4: still in town. Yeah, and we're off of Joe's face

501
00:22:08,640 --> 00:22:09,320
Speaker 4: considering it.

502
00:22:10,080 --> 00:22:15,080
Speaker 2: Yeah. So yeah, it's interesting, very interesting. You know, someone

503
00:22:15,119 --> 00:22:17,720
Speaker 2: coming back and you look at him and you see

504
00:22:17,720 --> 00:22:19,399
Speaker 2: all the things that you wanted to see then, and

505
00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:21,879
Speaker 2: he's such a handsome guy, and you know, maybe I

506
00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:23,040
Speaker 2: don't know any.

507
00:22:23,119 --> 00:22:24,000
Speaker 4: It's not black and white.

508
00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:29,200
Speaker 3: It's really real. This is real. Yeah, it's you love him. Yeah.

509
00:22:29,480 --> 00:22:31,359
Speaker 4: So we cut to Gene and Michael's apartment. There is

510
00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:35,359
Speaker 4: thunder and lightning, very dramatic, very dramatic, and Jane is

511
00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:37,880
Speaker 4: entering her apartment, walking through the living room, picking up

512
00:22:38,440 --> 00:22:44,320
Speaker 4: discarded clothing, grinding discarding the scrubs. Approaching the bedroom, she's

513
00:22:44,359 --> 00:22:48,200
Speaker 4: calling out. Michael enters the bedroom slowly, which is lit

514
00:22:48,200 --> 00:22:51,919
Speaker 4: with candles, and there she catches Sydney and Michael in

515
00:22:52,119 --> 00:22:56,159
Speaker 4: bed together. Now we're just appointed in Laura with Sidney.

516
00:22:57,880 --> 00:23:01,159
Speaker 3: You were naked in bed with the husband. Wait, I

517
00:23:01,200 --> 00:23:03,719
Speaker 3: got to do it for you, Okay, So you were.

518
00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:08,320
Speaker 4: I forgot all of this entirely, Like I forgot out

519
00:23:08,359 --> 00:23:10,480
Speaker 4: what was going to happen in the second episode entirely,

520
00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:12,639
Speaker 4: just like I couldn't even remember how are they going

521
00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:13,399
Speaker 4: to get rid of Sidney?

522
00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:13,959
Speaker 3: Like what happens?

523
00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:15,560
Speaker 4: What's the catalyst to make that happen? Like I couldn't

524
00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:17,720
Speaker 4: remember any of the storyline. So this was a fun

525
00:23:17,760 --> 00:23:18,840
Speaker 4: episode for me to watch and.

526
00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:19,760
Speaker 3: Learn all these things again.

527
00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:21,919
Speaker 4: But I was like, oh my god, I had to

528
00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:25,280
Speaker 4: do like a in bed scene. And as you know,

529
00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:27,760
Speaker 4: I was that brand new actress in the first place,

530
00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:30,800
Speaker 4: and this was only my second episode of television entirely,

531
00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:33,200
Speaker 4: and here I am all of a sudden being asked

532
00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:35,080
Speaker 4: to go, Okay, you need to be you know.

533
00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:37,080
Speaker 2: Because we saw from the back the sheet was down,

534
00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:38,199
Speaker 2: so you weren't wearing a bra.

535
00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:40,359
Speaker 4: Make sure the camera's not going to see anything. But

536
00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:42,639
Speaker 4: the person you're acting with asked to see you with

537
00:23:42,760 --> 00:23:46,280
Speaker 4: sticky stuff on your chest and tell the truth.

538
00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:47,600
Speaker 3: He doesn't listen to this podcast.

539
00:23:50,280 --> 00:23:52,320
Speaker 4: I've blocked it all out, no, But like do you

540
00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:54,840
Speaker 4: remember Thomas was saying that was always his role was

541
00:23:54,880 --> 00:23:59,159
Speaker 4: like make sure everybody's you know, stickies were right, I don't.

542
00:23:59,040 --> 00:24:01,199
Speaker 3: Think that's your role to make sure that they're sticky.

543
00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:05,960
Speaker 4: But I was struck in watching it, like, holy moly,

544
00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:08,440
Speaker 4: I had to do that very early on when I

545
00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:11,679
Speaker 4: I am assuming, I didn't even have that second script

546
00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:13,959
Speaker 4: for until everybody else got the script right, So when

547
00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:16,679
Speaker 4: I got the job, I only knew what was happening

548
00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:18,760
Speaker 4: in episode nineteen. And then I'm shooting and then they

549
00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:20,760
Speaker 4: hand you the next episode.

550
00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:23,399
Speaker 3: Ye're first wearing a beret. That's it.

551
00:24:23,560 --> 00:24:27,320
Speaker 1: Now we got your naked and swimmers are so incredibly

552
00:24:27,359 --> 00:24:30,080
Speaker 1: sweet trying to make us comfortable in those scenes. It's

553
00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:33,560
Speaker 1: really uncomfortable because you're not You're wearing little bits of

554
00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:37,200
Speaker 1: things to cover the most important parts, but you're almost naked.

555
00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:40,119
Speaker 4: Super vulnerable. Yeah, and you're like, Okay, this is just

556
00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:42,800
Speaker 4: the story we are us to tell. So yeah, it

557
00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:44,880
Speaker 4: struck me as like, holy moly.

558
00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:47,040
Speaker 3: That was oh yeah. But yeah.

559
00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:49,639
Speaker 4: So she turns around, we see her bare back, and

560
00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:51,320
Speaker 4: she turns around saying Jane.

561
00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:54,600
Speaker 3: And then we caught to Jane, who's waking up in

562
00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:54,960
Speaker 3: her bed.

563
00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:58,359
Speaker 4: This has clearly been a nightmare, and there's Sydney sitting

564
00:24:58,400 --> 00:25:01,200
Speaker 4: beside her, filing her nail in Jeane's bed.

565
00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:04,880
Speaker 1: Ew yeah, and one more like a man's buttoned down

566
00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:07,880
Speaker 1: over this really second shirt he wears like a forties

567
00:25:08,080 --> 00:25:10,359
Speaker 1: movie star and you've got one leg up and you're filing.

568
00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:13,200
Speaker 3: Yes, it was so fine. It was great wardrobe.

569
00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:15,280
Speaker 2: They just were like leaning into the cringe of it all,

570
00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:17,399
Speaker 2: weren't they. Okay, let's put her on a man's shirt,

571
00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:19,000
Speaker 2: whose shirt oversized shirt.

572
00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:21,159
Speaker 3: And then let's give her a nail file right on

573
00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:21,960
Speaker 3: top of her head?

574
00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:26,800
Speaker 4: Is so yeah, it wasn't cozy like fuzzy fuzzy PJS

575
00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:27,400
Speaker 4: type thing.

576
00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:31,760
Speaker 3: Definitely say satty with a man's shirt. And I still

577
00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:32,600
Speaker 3: know who was.

578
00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:35,360
Speaker 4: But she's there telling Jane, don't worry you overslept. I've

579
00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:37,320
Speaker 4: already told Kay that you know you might be late,

580
00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:40,600
Speaker 4: but don't worry. Jane pops up to get ready, and

581
00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:43,280
Speaker 4: then we uh moved to the kitchen where we see

582
00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:45,399
Speaker 4: Michael on the phone and he's whispering to someone on

583
00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:47,320
Speaker 4: the other end that he doesn't know where it will

584
00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:48,960
Speaker 4: be yet, but yes, it will be.

585
00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:50,280
Speaker 3: A surprise party.

586
00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:53,480
Speaker 4: So Sydney walks into the kitchen and she whispers to

587
00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:57,080
Speaker 4: Michael that Kay's studio would be the perfect place for

588
00:25:57,119 --> 00:25:59,879
Speaker 4: this party, and Michael says, Sid, I'm planning this party.

589
00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:04,359
Speaker 4: And Sid says, I just want to help, and she says, Michael,

590
00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:07,920
Speaker 4: you're desperate and you need a place, and Michael reluctantly

591
00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:09,920
Speaker 4: admits he could use the help. So he tells Sid

592
00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:11,080
Speaker 4: to check on K Studio.

593
00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:15,760
Speaker 3: After all, Can I just say again that sexy teddy

594
00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:17,440
Speaker 3: and a man?

595
00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:21,680
Speaker 2: Sure, but just the fact that Sydney is in your apartment,

596
00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:25,520
Speaker 2: your tiny one bedroom apartment, in a sexy teddy like

597
00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:26,920
Speaker 2: for who like?

598
00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:28,960
Speaker 4: Because she left for college and that's what she packed

599
00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:31,200
Speaker 4: with her is her sexy teddy It was in.

600
00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:33,240
Speaker 3: Your okay miss method.

601
00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:39,240
Speaker 4: That's doesn't match like the Doc Martin and the and

602
00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:41,760
Speaker 4: the and the beret vibe.

603
00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:43,040
Speaker 3: It doesn't really match.

604
00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:45,560
Speaker 1: The rest of the she before that, it was all

605
00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:49,120
Speaker 1: costumes for Sydney, right, so this is a bedtime costume.

606
00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:51,520
Speaker 1: So it did with the nail file, it did ring true.

607
00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:54,800
Speaker 4: It felt to me more like she borrowed it, like

608
00:26:55,080 --> 00:26:59,600
Speaker 4: I've borrowed my sisters, and oh, let me just borrow this.

609
00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:00,760
Speaker 3: And let me borrow that.

610
00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:03,159
Speaker 4: That's to me what it looks like is she's trying.

611
00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:06,760
Speaker 2: To take everything on found the episodes after this, she's

612
00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:07,679
Speaker 2: just moved.

613
00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:08,200
Speaker 3: Herself to thin.

614
00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:09,680
Speaker 4: She's borrowing clooes.

615
00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:10,360
Speaker 3: Okay.

616
00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:12,840
Speaker 4: He reluctantly admits that he could use the help, and

617
00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:14,919
Speaker 4: he does, tells Sidney to go check on case studio

618
00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:19,160
Speaker 4: for him. Sidney throws her arms around Michael's neck and says,

619
00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:21,960
Speaker 4: you're the best, Michael, giving him a kiss on the cheek,

620
00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:24,200
Speaker 4: right at the moment when Jane walks into the kitchen

621
00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:28,119
Speaker 4: and witnesses this moment. Sidney then bounces back down the

622
00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:30,760
Speaker 4: hall and Jane looks at Michael for an explanation, and

623
00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:32,160
Speaker 4: he lies and says, I.

624
00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:32,960
Speaker 3: Made a breakfast.

625
00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:36,479
Speaker 2: So basically this nightmare started and ended up as a

626
00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:37,720
Speaker 2: bad effing dream.

627
00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:40,879
Speaker 3: And just felt so bad after her nightmare to have

628
00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:43,719
Speaker 3: to see that. Yeah, absolute kidding, Yeah, And he's like,

629
00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:44,800
Speaker 3: I made her breakfast.

630
00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:46,560
Speaker 4: He makes up a story because he's trying to cover

631
00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:50,360
Speaker 4: about this surprise party, and she's like, what a guy pissed?

632
00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:52,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, she really hit that too. They must have given

633
00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:55,160
Speaker 1: her direction because Josie's so sweet and Jane also is sweet,

634
00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:58,080
Speaker 1: and she goes, what a guyy? Yeah, it's like what

635
00:27:58,200 --> 00:27:58,720
Speaker 1: a dump?

636
00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:00,080
Speaker 3: She really.

637
00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:05,040
Speaker 4: Runny way to wake up all of it. So then

638
00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:07,760
Speaker 4: We cut to Alison Billy's apartment in the morning, and

639
00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:11,240
Speaker 4: Allison knocks on Billy's bedroom door. He's finishing getting ready

640
00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:15,560
Speaker 4: a day and Billy asks her how the after party went.

641
00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:18,240
Speaker 4: She says it was boring and that they only talked

642
00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:20,640
Speaker 4: about work, and she regretted leaving Billy at the party

643
00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:23,119
Speaker 4: and says she's sorry, but that she didn't think it

644
00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:25,359
Speaker 4: was a real date between them since she and Billy

645
00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:30,040
Speaker 4: are just friends. Allison come on, so Billy's kind of huffy,

646
00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:33,040
Speaker 4: and he agrees, Yeah, I know, we're just friends. But

647
00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:36,520
Speaker 4: Alison can tell he's mad, and Billy says, yeah, Alison,

648
00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:39,200
Speaker 4: what did you expect. He reminds her that he rented

649
00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:43,560
Speaker 4: a tux, he blowed ried his hair, he.

650
00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:45,720
Speaker 1: Three times, andrew she was never blowed rider's hair, the

651
00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:46,280
Speaker 1: fact that he.

652
00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:50,720
Speaker 3: The fact that he knows that that's not even a thing.

653
00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:56,440
Speaker 4: Really what happened in between each time? Like what happened

654
00:28:56,440 --> 00:28:57,440
Speaker 4: that I blow.

655
00:28:57,320 --> 00:28:59,080
Speaker 3: Drid my hair three times?

656
00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:03,040
Speaker 4: And he kiss dumped her boss and then Alison dumped him,

657
00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:06,280
Speaker 4: he says. She insists, I did not dump you, but

658
00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:09,400
Speaker 4: Billy says it still bothers him and he doesn't really

659
00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:12,080
Speaker 4: know why. But he leaves the apartment with Alison yelling

660
00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:15,800
Speaker 4: after him, you're being unreasonable, and Billy yells back from

661
00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:19,440
Speaker 4: the courtyard that it's unreasonable for her to expect him

662
00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:20,000
Speaker 4: not to care.

663
00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:22,520
Speaker 1: This is before we were talking about gaslighting. But Alison

664
00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:25,480
Speaker 1: is so gaslighting him, Like your reaction to me begging

665
00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:28,080
Speaker 1: you to be my date and dumping you is inappropriate, Like, no, no,

666
00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:30,680
Speaker 1: it's not. It's that the sun Reason's feelings are very validant.

667
00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:34,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, but I thought Andrew was great in the scenk

668
00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:35,840
Speaker 4: and then he tells Jake as he's passing him in

669
00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:38,760
Speaker 4: the courtyard, don't ask. It was just like such a

670
00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:39,520
Speaker 4: good sweep.

671
00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:41,320
Speaker 1: But that's what I'm talking about this episode. We keep

672
00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:43,760
Speaker 1: bringing all the people together, like we didn't do that

673
00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:45,400
Speaker 1: as much early. They were sort of separate, Like for

674
00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:48,800
Speaker 1: him to be passing Jake, Yeah, to keep everybody alive

675
00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:51,280
Speaker 1: the whole episode, I thought they did a great job.

676
00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:54,120
Speaker 4: And then this overlaps straight into Jake looking up and

677
00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:58,280
Speaker 4: seeing Joe coming down the stairs carrying her bulging photo portfolio,

678
00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:00,840
Speaker 4: and as she arrives at the on the stairs, the

679
00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:03,480
Speaker 4: portfolio spills out all over the ground in the courtyard,

680
00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:05,920
Speaker 4: he goes over and helps her clean up her photos,

681
00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:09,240
Speaker 4: and while he's down on the ground, he mentions to her,

682
00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:11,680
Speaker 4: you know there are things you can do, like you

683
00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:16,160
Speaker 4: know injunctions and quick divorces, he says. And Joe tells

684
00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:18,200
Speaker 4: Jake that she actually went to see her husband last

685
00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:21,040
Speaker 4: night and Charles told her that he's quit drinking and

686
00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:23,840
Speaker 4: he has admitted that it's a problem, which he'd never

687
00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:27,080
Speaker 4: done before. And Joe tells Jake that she is confused

688
00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:29,880
Speaker 4: and she doesn't know if after being married for four years,

689
00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:31,640
Speaker 4: she can just not give a damn and walk out

690
00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:34,360
Speaker 4: and say it's over. And Jake says, well, who's asking

691
00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:38,360
Speaker 4: you to? Then Joe very gently tells Jake that she

692
00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:42,160
Speaker 4: really cares about him, Jake, but that this is her

693
00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:43,720
Speaker 4: past and her problem.

694
00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:47,520
Speaker 2: I'm seeing the stories parallel ling each other. Yeah, both

695
00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:49,760
Speaker 2: of our hunks are big, dist and different.

696
00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:54,560
Speaker 1: Both of our gorgeous, sweet, funny guys are her packing

697
00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:55,640
Speaker 1: don't have eyes.

698
00:30:57,680 --> 00:30:58,360
Speaker 3: Guys.

699
00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:01,440
Speaker 4: But like, don't you think so much of a show

700
00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:04,400
Speaker 4: like this is about the audience wanting to shout back

701
00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:07,000
Speaker 4: at the television like no, don't do that, Like I

702
00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:08,080
Speaker 4: was yelling at all of us.

703
00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:10,120
Speaker 3: We're leaning into this show.

704
00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:13,800
Speaker 2: The writers, it's like a plane about to take off.

705
00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:16,120
Speaker 2: Do what I mean, because then we're that for the next.

706
00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:17,680
Speaker 4: Right, I mean you want to I think that's a

707
00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:19,680
Speaker 4: fun thing. Is an audience to be able to.

708
00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:22,040
Speaker 3: Don't do that, I know better than what you're doing

709
00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:22,560
Speaker 3: right now.

710
00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:24,920
Speaker 2: I mean, this is the gearing up for our fans

711
00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:27,400
Speaker 2: to start, you know, like having gathered talking about it.

712
00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:29,600
Speaker 2: Then they have gatherings, then they have Melrose parties in

713
00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:33,120
Speaker 2: a year from now, yelling at the yelling at the TV.

714
00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:34,600
Speaker 4: When they talk about it, if they didn't know better

715
00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:43,640
Speaker 4: than the characters exactly. So we cut to Matt's apartment

716
00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:46,560
Speaker 4: in the morning. Ronda's there and she's working on wedding

717
00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:49,040
Speaker 4: planning and her budget, and Matt tells her, you know, Randa,

718
00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:51,720
Speaker 4: you're changing. You used to make fun of anything that

719
00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:55,600
Speaker 4: was like extravagant like this or social. And Ronda says, well,

720
00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:57,360
Speaker 4: she has to change since she's going to be living

721
00:31:57,360 --> 00:32:01,560
Speaker 4: a whole different life now with Terrence. And Matt asks Ronda, well,

722
00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:03,800
Speaker 4: what about your old life, you know, the volunteering and

723
00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:05,680
Speaker 4: the things that were meaningful to you, your commitment to

724
00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:08,960
Speaker 4: rebuilding the neighborhood and Ronda says, Matt, you obviously don't

725
00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:11,440
Speaker 4: know what goes into planning a wedding, and that after

726
00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:13,680
Speaker 4: I will go back to the other stuff.

727
00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:15,920
Speaker 3: So easy, we changed, so easily.

728
00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:19,920
Speaker 1: So nice to see Doug. It's like dogs here and

729
00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:21,840
Speaker 1: he just didn't have enough to do at this point,

730
00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:22,880
Speaker 1: and a very.

731
00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:25,760
Speaker 4: Clear observation about what's going on for Ronda. Yeah, And

732
00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:29,440
Speaker 4: so then we cut to a restaurant outdoor restaurant with

733
00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:33,240
Speaker 4: Joe and Charles, where he is telling her that, Wow,

734
00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:35,200
Speaker 4: it must have been really difficult for you with no money,

735
00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:38,720
Speaker 4: your credit cards, Joe tells them, while I'm working as

736
00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:41,120
Speaker 4: a photographer, which, by the way, is something that you

737
00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:44,440
Speaker 4: always dismissed. You called it a worthless hobby, she says.

738
00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:48,800
Speaker 4: She reminds him, and he again calls her Beth and

739
00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:52,520
Speaker 4: says he must have under estimated her, and he apologizes.

740
00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:54,320
Speaker 1: Which probably is something she wanted to hear. Their entire

741
00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:55,200
Speaker 1: merit right now.

742
00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:58,240
Speaker 3: I was trying to say everything right, want to hear.

743
00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:01,640
Speaker 1: That he'd underestimated you. Oh, yes, more than he thought

744
00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:02,680
Speaker 1: you were the whole time.

745
00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:04,920
Speaker 3: I'm sure, So he really is. He's trying to He's

746
00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:06,040
Speaker 3: saying all the right.

747
00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:08,520
Speaker 1: Thing all the right cars. I was sitting there going, Wow,

748
00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:10,120
Speaker 1: I really he's amazing.

749
00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:15,720
Speaker 2: How to get off Yeah, manipulate thought he was like

750
00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:18,080
Speaker 2: the advanced.

751
00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:19,800
Speaker 4: And so Joe says, you know, I can forgive you,

752
00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:22,840
Speaker 4: but I have made my decision. I'm leaving I and

753
00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:25,520
Speaker 4: I want us to go our separate ways. Charles then

754
00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:27,800
Speaker 4: tries to pain himself as insecure and says he didn't

755
00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:30,000
Speaker 4: think he deserved her while they were married, and Joe says,

756
00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:34,040
Speaker 4: I love this line. No, Charles, drunk or sober, you

757
00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:35,200
Speaker 4: were never insecure.

758
00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:37,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it was such a strong, good life. That's

759
00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:38,320
Speaker 3: a great line.

760
00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:41,480
Speaker 4: And she totally calls him out on that, and he

761
00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:44,200
Speaker 4: says he never realized how fortunate he was, but Joe

762
00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:46,320
Speaker 4: says she's firm. She says, I have a new life

763
00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:48,560
Speaker 4: and I really like it. Charles finally says he's happy

764
00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:51,200
Speaker 4: for her, but he asks her one more thing, would

765
00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:53,440
Speaker 4: you just show me around the city before I leave town?

766
00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:56,360
Speaker 4: Because doesn't four years together at least buy me an

767
00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:58,480
Speaker 4: afternoon by me?

768
00:33:58,720 --> 00:33:59,640
Speaker 1: Bye bye bye.

769
00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:04,040
Speaker 2: All money and power that's that currency is this exchange

770
00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:07,120
Speaker 2: of currency of the world that they came from, you.

771
00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:09,120
Speaker 3: Know, And he's just pushing it little bits at a time.

772
00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:11,480
Speaker 4: You can't convince her with his words. He's like, all right,

773
00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:13,480
Speaker 4: just spend a little bit more time with me. So

774
00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:16,319
Speaker 4: he convinces her for this. So we cut back to

775
00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:19,320
Speaker 4: Kay Beacon's design studio, where Jane is working on designs.

776
00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:23,200
Speaker 4: Sydney comes up wearing a bizarre sweater with really fluffy

777
00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:25,279
Speaker 4: stuff on the shoulders. I thought it looked kind of

778
00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:30,120
Speaker 4: like a bold eagle right right, with wings there and scrunchy.

779
00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:32,239
Speaker 1: But I had a very fancy jacket that had that

780
00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:33,520
Speaker 1: sort of white faux fur.

781
00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:35,640
Speaker 3: Call this was like.

782
00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:38,120
Speaker 4: Feathers, I thought, sticking out in a direction that made

783
00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:39,520
Speaker 4: it was it had been.

784
00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:42,839
Speaker 2: So it was kind of like you just popped out

785
00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:46,160
Speaker 2: onto Melrose, the real Melrose Avenue to one of those stores,

786
00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:50,520
Speaker 2: you know, one afternoon with all the money that Yeah,

787
00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:50,719
Speaker 2: it was.

788
00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:53,800
Speaker 4: It on the sweater and flew out the door. So

789
00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:57,160
Speaker 4: Jane asked Sidney how the apartment hunt is coming. Sydney's

790
00:34:57,320 --> 00:35:00,920
Speaker 4: vague saying it's coming, and she grabs an apple and

791
00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:05,480
Speaker 4: takes a huge crunchy bite over Jane's work right in

792
00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:08,359
Speaker 4: her ear jeans suggests maybe Sidney should just go pick

793
00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:10,759
Speaker 4: up lunch for Jane since Aaron's are part of her job,

794
00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:13,040
Speaker 4: and Sidney says, nah, I like to be.

795
00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:13,560
Speaker 3: Near the action.

796
00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:15,560
Speaker 4: I don't know, blows are off now I'm not going

797
00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:18,520
Speaker 4: to do that. Jane's very frustrated, tells Sidney go kiss

798
00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:20,120
Speaker 4: some butt or whatever it is you're here to do,

799
00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:25,960
Speaker 4: and Sidney appears to be hurt. Yes, Sidney, wow, so touchy?

800
00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:27,240
Speaker 3: What do you mean when I'm.

801
00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:32,719
Speaker 4: So Then we were back to Alison Billy's apartment at night.

802
00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:35,839
Speaker 4: Billy is ordering Chinese food while Jake is pacing near

803
00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:37,800
Speaker 4: the window and he tells Billy that he called Joe

804
00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:38,560
Speaker 4: five times.

805
00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:39,719
Speaker 3: She hasn't been home all day.

806
00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:43,280
Speaker 4: Where could she be? And he's awfully upset. Billy's watching television?

807
00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:44,239
Speaker 3: But did you know this.

808
00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:46,160
Speaker 1: Made me laugh so hard? So the TV is for

809
00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:49,360
Speaker 1: some reason on the little kitchen table, which clearly the

810
00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:51,840
Speaker 1: director had an idea, and it was really well shot.

811
00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:55,040
Speaker 1: Who directed? Do we know? We should go buy? So

812
00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:56,920
Speaker 1: it's really well directed and it's a great shot. But

813
00:35:56,960 --> 00:35:58,919
Speaker 1: it's like, we need a TV, we'll just put it here.

814
00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:00,960
Speaker 4: And it needed to be in the window because Jake

815
00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:02,560
Speaker 4: needs to be looking out the window and Billy needs

816
00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:04,160
Speaker 4: to be watching TV, so just move them together.

817
00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:05,840
Speaker 3: You're just gonna put the little table.

818
00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:07,759
Speaker 1: And but for those of you who are younger, you

819
00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:09,600
Speaker 1: just be able to pick up TVs and move them

820
00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:10,360
Speaker 1: around you want to.

821
00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:12,680
Speaker 3: You it was not a giant TV. It was like

822
00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:15,359
Speaker 3: a big old box with the they used to be.

823
00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:19,120
Speaker 4: He's watching TV on this tiny little box and Jake is.

824
00:36:19,160 --> 00:36:22,680
Speaker 1: Ranting watching The Simpsons, which as we know, is still running.

825
00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:24,360
Speaker 1: First episode, like, yeah.

826
00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:27,120
Speaker 4: Was running, then still on running out.

827
00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:30,920
Speaker 2: Wow, that's the longest on TV, I think the Simpsons.

828
00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:31,640
Speaker 3: Yeah.

829
00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:33,960
Speaker 4: Billy even references it in the scene. It's so funny.

830
00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:36,120
Speaker 4: But Jake is telling Billy that he finally met someone

831
00:36:36,120 --> 00:36:38,319
Speaker 4: who could maybe be the one. She could be it,

832
00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:40,480
Speaker 4: but he has to sit back and do nothing. And

833
00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:43,000
Speaker 4: by the way, I haven't even slept with her. And

834
00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:45,040
Speaker 4: Billy stops watching television.

835
00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:48,360
Speaker 5: He's like, what you haven't you.

836
00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:51,720
Speaker 3: I'm just like going, wait, we haven't.

837
00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:55,439
Speaker 1: I thought that too, I thought, but I guess all right.

838
00:36:56,160 --> 00:36:58,840
Speaker 4: That was funny, and Jake suggests maybe he deserves this

839
00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:01,240
Speaker 4: since he's done this to a lot of other women.

840
00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:04,840
Speaker 4: He says, and here's where Billy says, well, you know,

841
00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:06,600
Speaker 4: women are always the ones in control. And he sort

842
00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:09,040
Speaker 4: of cites the Simpsons is a good example, because Homer

843
00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:12,680
Speaker 4: ever said anything bright, so Billy such a goo example.

844
00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:14,600
Speaker 3: That's where he got his relationship advice.

845
00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:17,600
Speaker 4: Yea Simpsons and whatever happened to shows like Magnum Pi.

846
00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:20,680
Speaker 4: He says, But isn't there like a Magnum.

847
00:37:20,520 --> 00:37:23,520
Speaker 1: I don't know who had a crush on Magnum P.

848
00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:24,920
Speaker 3: I yeah, the original.

849
00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:27,600
Speaker 1: I'm like way too young. I was like, hello, I

850
00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:31,120
Speaker 1: was probably eleventh. I don't know much, but he's hot.

851
00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:31,760
Speaker 3: Yeah.

852
00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:34,520
Speaker 4: Jake then sees Joe and Charles through the window as

853
00:37:34,560 --> 00:37:36,680
Speaker 4: they're coming into the courtyard, and Jake and Billy watched

854
00:37:36,680 --> 00:37:39,520
Speaker 4: at the window in the courtyard where then we cut

855
00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:41,840
Speaker 4: down and Charles is telling Joe that he had a

856
00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:46,120
Speaker 4: great time today and he kisses Joe. She lets him,

857
00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:49,320
Speaker 4: and there's a close up through the blinds as Jake.

858
00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:50,839
Speaker 3: Sees them kiss.

859
00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:53,800
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I was so mad at you in

860
00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:54,120
Speaker 1: that mouth.

861
00:37:54,239 --> 00:37:55,000
Speaker 3: Definitely, I'm not.

862
00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:57,839
Speaker 1: Only mad confused And why kiss him there?

863
00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:01,120
Speaker 3: Like why walk all the way? Ages of the kiss?

864
00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:01,839
Speaker 4: I know?

865
00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:04,080
Speaker 3: And it's like I'm so confused, Like was he really

866
00:38:04,120 --> 00:38:06,680
Speaker 3: that charming? Like I don't know what happened.

867
00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:10,480
Speaker 4: He's her husband, and she's like, how do I go? No,

868
00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:12,600
Speaker 4: we're not going to get like that. That feeling like

869
00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:16,880
Speaker 4: that conflict for Joe was just like she was so confused.

870
00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:18,719
Speaker 4: It wasn't cat and dry the whole situation.

871
00:38:19,080 --> 00:38:21,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, when you're in a situation there in

872
00:38:21,120 --> 00:38:23,279
Speaker 2: the moment, you kind of go with things and then

873
00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:24,440
Speaker 2: later you can assess it.

874
00:38:24,520 --> 00:38:27,520
Speaker 4: Kind of thing he had, he'd said so many of

875
00:38:27,520 --> 00:38:30,239
Speaker 4: the right things. Yeah, you know so, and Jaco's has

876
00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:30,880
Speaker 4: to witness at all.

877
00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:33,759
Speaker 3: Ken Maybe he just said, Kenned, what four years? Can

878
00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:34,720
Speaker 3: it buy me a kiss?

879
00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:36,760
Speaker 4: Yeah?

880
00:38:36,840 --> 00:38:39,720
Speaker 1: Okay, that's that'll cost you one.

881
00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:43,080
Speaker 4: So then back at Jane and Michael's apartment the morning,

882
00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:46,440
Speaker 4: Michael piques at Jane's birthday cake, which she's hiding in

883
00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:49,240
Speaker 4: a laundry basket. Just as Jane walks into the apartment,

884
00:38:49,239 --> 00:38:52,280
Speaker 4: he covers it up quickly. She's returning from a jog

885
00:38:52,520 --> 00:38:55,440
Speaker 4: with her walkman, which you know probably held a cassette tape,

886
00:38:55,640 --> 00:38:58,800
Speaker 4: telling Michael that unfortunately the jog didn't clear her head. However,

887
00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:02,960
Speaker 4: she says, Michael, you were right. I'm gonna ask Sidney

888
00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:06,320
Speaker 4: to leave the apartment today. And then Michael panics, which

889
00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:08,760
Speaker 4: we realize is about the surprise party says wait, wait, wait,

890
00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:12,320
Speaker 4: really so soon, and Jane says she can't take it anymore,

891
00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:14,720
Speaker 4: that they're destined to repeat the same patterns of their past,

892
00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:17,040
Speaker 4: and Jane recounts a story about Sidney having a heart

893
00:39:17,120 --> 00:39:20,040
Speaker 4: murmur as a kid, where everybody tiptoed around her and

894
00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:22,760
Speaker 4: she expected everyone to do things for her, and Michael

895
00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:26,000
Speaker 4: suggests that sid will maybe grow up and maybe give

896
00:39:26,040 --> 00:39:27,680
Speaker 4: it a little bit more time. You know, you don't

897
00:39:27,680 --> 00:39:29,640
Speaker 4: want to push her out the door and feel like

898
00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:31,080
Speaker 4: you didn't give her enough time, And he.

899
00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:33,360
Speaker 3: Just give it one more day, that you should.

900
00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:36,080
Speaker 4: You and Sidney should go out tonight since I'm on rotations,

901
00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:39,120
Speaker 4: and if you still feel the same way tomorrow, you know,

902
00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:41,919
Speaker 4: go ahead. So she agrees to give it one more day,

903
00:39:42,520 --> 00:39:44,600
Speaker 4: and she asks Michael to promise that they will have

904
00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:48,080
Speaker 4: alone time for her birthday, which he promises.

905
00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:51,800
Speaker 2: I mean, I just feel like, uh, hasn't it switched around?

906
00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:53,719
Speaker 2: Wasn't he like for the whole last you know.

907
00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:56,880
Speaker 3: Get her out now because he saw her in that

908
00:39:57,040 --> 00:40:01,360
Speaker 3: Teddy Now he's like, well, maybe more day. What's the rest?

909
00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:02,960
Speaker 4: Well, I think it was supposed to be about the

910
00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:04,839
Speaker 4: surprise party that he needed her help.

911
00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:07,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was supposed to be a surprise party. It's

912
00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:10,120
Speaker 1: supposed to make Jane think they're having an affair, because

913
00:40:10,120 --> 00:40:12,520
Speaker 1: why does he suddenly They didn't lean into that so much.

914
00:40:12,560 --> 00:40:14,719
Speaker 1: I don't know if that part got edited out, but

915
00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:17,880
Speaker 1: you can see that the cookie crumbs of her thinking

916
00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:20,000
Speaker 1: something's going on between them and that's the problem, and

917
00:40:20,120 --> 00:40:22,480
Speaker 1: they just sort of dropped it or the way it

918
00:40:22,520 --> 00:40:23,880
Speaker 1: was interesting really see it.

919
00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:26,120
Speaker 3: Well, they'll pick it back up again in season two, yes,

920
00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:29,160
Speaker 3: but they don't for a long time. It's interesting.

921
00:40:29,320 --> 00:40:31,840
Speaker 1: Maybe they had I wonder if even then the writers

922
00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:32,520
Speaker 1: had an idea.

923
00:40:33,320 --> 00:40:34,080
Speaker 3: I don't know.

924
00:40:34,280 --> 00:40:35,680
Speaker 1: Well maybe I think they.

925
00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:37,640
Speaker 2: Had to see how you were and then they probably

926
00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:41,399
Speaker 2: will bring the red head back. She's very crazy, and

927
00:40:41,719 --> 00:40:43,799
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, because it's season I do

928
00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:47,280
Speaker 2: think that seed was planted with the nightmare and then

929
00:40:47,600 --> 00:40:50,000
Speaker 2: Jane coming out and seeing the kiss this morning, it's like,

930
00:40:50,640 --> 00:40:52,200
Speaker 2: we want this to be a thing.

931
00:40:52,239 --> 00:40:55,320
Speaker 4: And I think my recollection is they had the idea

932
00:40:55,400 --> 00:40:59,000
Speaker 4: that the character of Michael was going to have an

933
00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:01,600
Speaker 4: infidelity story, whether it was going to be with Sydney

934
00:41:01,680 --> 00:41:02,280
Speaker 4: or Kimberly.

935
00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:04,239
Speaker 3: I think they're both. That was already a.

936
00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:06,920
Speaker 4: Thing, and so I think that seed was intentionally planted.

937
00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:10,080
Speaker 4: They just didn't carry it through for this episode because

938
00:41:10,239 --> 00:41:12,759
Speaker 4: there was it was more it.

939
00:41:12,800 --> 00:41:14,560
Speaker 1: But you could have all of these scenes, you could

940
00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:16,520
Speaker 1: have played in a way that really made Jane think

941
00:41:16,520 --> 00:41:18,480
Speaker 1: there was an affair going on with the secretiveness and

942
00:41:18,520 --> 00:41:20,840
Speaker 1: the hiding things. She walks into this scene and says,

943
00:41:21,040 --> 00:41:23,480
Speaker 1: you lied, and he goes what and she goes the

944
00:41:23,560 --> 00:41:25,600
Speaker 1: run to make me feel better? Right, So I just

945
00:41:25,640 --> 00:41:27,560
Speaker 1: think they chose a different way to pry It was.

946
00:41:27,560 --> 00:41:29,880
Speaker 4: Just the seed. But you're right, they didn't flush it out,

947
00:41:29,960 --> 00:41:32,480
Speaker 4: they didn't run with it, They just planted it.

948
00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:34,960
Speaker 2: They definitely good writing that hooks you in, you know

949
00:41:35,040 --> 00:41:36,400
Speaker 2: what's what's gonna happen.

950
00:41:36,840 --> 00:41:38,279
Speaker 3: They got to just lay it out.

951
00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:43,600
Speaker 4: So then we're back at Joe's apartment where Alison is

952
00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:47,040
Speaker 4: there and she's listening to Joe. She's shocked to hear

953
00:41:47,120 --> 00:41:50,120
Speaker 4: her story about going out with Charles, and Joe insists

954
00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:52,520
Speaker 4: that she's surprised too, but that Charles without the drinking

955
00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:55,080
Speaker 4: is actually the version that she originally fell in love with.

956
00:41:56,080 --> 00:41:58,960
Speaker 4: So she tells Alison she's just gonna let things happen

957
00:41:59,040 --> 00:42:02,839
Speaker 4: without any anticity, patient, and she's really considering this. So

958
00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:05,279
Speaker 4: then there's a knock at the door. Allison gets up

959
00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:07,759
Speaker 4: and lets Jake in, and she quickly tells Jake, hey,

960
00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:10,359
Speaker 4: you know, a gallery wants to see more of Joe's work,

961
00:42:10,440 --> 00:42:15,319
Speaker 4: and Jake says great and asks, are you guys going

962
00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:18,080
Speaker 4: to Jean's surprise party? And Alison says she wouldn't miss it,

963
00:42:18,120 --> 00:42:19,680
Speaker 4: but Joe says she can't make it.

964
00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:22,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, And this was sweet too, because you can tell

965
00:42:22,120 --> 00:42:24,560
Speaker 1: that Alison is worried about Jake, like she's trying to

966
00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:26,719
Speaker 1: keep it light and make it light because now she

967
00:42:26,920 --> 00:42:29,680
Speaker 1: knows that Joe's having feelings for her ex. Yeah, so

968
00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:32,600
Speaker 1: that was really sweet. She picked a difference, like so

969
00:42:32,719 --> 00:42:35,760
Speaker 1: much compassion for Jake, who's so sweet.

970
00:42:36,040 --> 00:42:38,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know you were running interference for sure.

971
00:42:38,560 --> 00:42:38,799
Speaker 1: Yeah.

972
00:42:38,800 --> 00:42:40,680
Speaker 2: And then Joe says, he's like, so do you want

973
00:42:40,680 --> 00:42:42,680
Speaker 2: to go to this? Would you want to go to

974
00:42:42,680 --> 00:42:43,520
Speaker 2: the surprise party?

975
00:42:43,560 --> 00:42:44,640
Speaker 3: Maybe together?

976
00:42:45,520 --> 00:42:49,080
Speaker 2: And she's like yeah, I can't. No, she goes yeah, thanks,

977
00:42:49,120 --> 00:42:51,160
Speaker 2: it was something such a blow off life. It's just

978
00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:54,279
Speaker 2: the gall the gallery. It was the gallery. And then

979
00:42:54,320 --> 00:42:56,880
Speaker 2: he goes, oh, congratulations, yeah, thanks.

980
00:42:57,360 --> 00:43:01,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, Oh yeah, she was just confused and torn and

981
00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:04,319
Speaker 4: in an awkward spot. So yeah, he says he was

982
00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:06,840
Speaker 4: hoping they could go together. She says sorry, and he

983
00:43:06,920 --> 00:43:09,480
Speaker 4: wishes her luck with the gallery. He leaves with his

984
00:43:09,600 --> 00:43:13,320
Speaker 4: tale between his legs, and Joe says to Alison some advice,

985
00:43:13,719 --> 00:43:15,400
Speaker 4: never go out with anyone in the building.

986
00:43:17,560 --> 00:43:19,440
Speaker 3: She's like, who me, I wasn't thinking that I.

987
00:43:19,560 --> 00:43:22,879
Speaker 4: Was going to tell you this same So we're back

988
00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:25,960
Speaker 4: at Allison and Billy's apartment, speaking of which, where Michael

989
00:43:26,239 --> 00:43:28,840
Speaker 4: and Billy are putting Jean's birthday cake in Billy and

990
00:43:28,880 --> 00:43:31,200
Speaker 4: Allison's fridge for the surprise party, and Michael tells Billy

991
00:43:31,239 --> 00:43:33,680
Speaker 4: the plan is for Sydney to bring Jane to Shooters.

992
00:43:34,280 --> 00:43:36,960
Speaker 4: She'll bring her to Case studio for the surprise. Then

993
00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:40,160
Speaker 4: Allison walks in and Michael leaves, saying, don't forget the cake.

994
00:43:40,239 --> 00:43:43,120
Speaker 4: Allison says, hey, we're bringing the cake, and Billy retorts,

995
00:43:43,360 --> 00:43:44,640
Speaker 4: I'm bringing the cake.

996
00:43:45,680 --> 00:43:46,719
Speaker 1: Good for him.

997
00:43:46,719 --> 00:43:50,400
Speaker 4: Actually we're just room made yes, and Alison is like

998
00:43:50,480 --> 00:43:52,839
Speaker 4: annoyed that he's still mad and says, this is ridiculous.

999
00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:55,200
Speaker 4: We go to things together all the time, and it's fine.

1000
00:43:55,239 --> 00:43:58,240
Speaker 4: We can go to things as friends, and Billy says, fine,

1001
00:43:58,400 --> 00:44:01,720
Speaker 4: we'll go to jeans party together, but separately, and maybe

1002
00:44:01,760 --> 00:44:06,000
Speaker 4: this time I'll get lucky.

1003
00:44:05,719 --> 00:44:08,680
Speaker 3: Yeah. I love he just doesn't hold it back, does it.

1004
00:44:08,800 --> 00:44:09,040
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1005
00:44:09,080 --> 00:44:11,120
Speaker 3: I just love it when he's so like sort of.

1006
00:44:11,120 --> 00:44:13,160
Speaker 4: Like calling her out in a very good way.

1007
00:44:13,239 --> 00:44:13,799
Speaker 1: I love it.

1008
00:44:14,560 --> 00:44:16,720
Speaker 4: So then we see Jane and Sidney at their girls'

1009
00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:19,920
Speaker 4: night at Shooters. They're shooting pool and Sidney tells.

1010
00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:21,960
Speaker 1: Jidney is on a very cute little red dress, little

1011
00:44:21,960 --> 00:44:22,719
Speaker 1: baby tall dress.

1012
00:44:22,719 --> 00:44:24,440
Speaker 3: Remember those like bright red.

1013
00:44:24,320 --> 00:44:25,799
Speaker 1: You could wear that now, that's one of those things

1014
00:44:25,840 --> 00:44:30,640
Speaker 1: you could absolutely wear. Now maybe not, but someone right,

1015
00:44:30,920 --> 00:44:32,239
Speaker 1: someone it was.

1016
00:44:32,280 --> 00:44:34,480
Speaker 4: It was super cute and like red we've always talked about,

1017
00:44:34,520 --> 00:44:35,919
Speaker 4: like when somebody's you know, up.

1018
00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:40,839
Speaker 3: From to go.

1019
00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:43,360
Speaker 4: Although I do notice it later in the scene almost

1020
00:44:43,360 --> 00:44:46,120
Speaker 4: everybody's wearing red. So Alison and Billy are also.

1021
00:44:46,600 --> 00:44:50,919
Speaker 1: Is taking a turn, just saying we're all all.

1022
00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:50,560
Speaker 3: Up to no good.

1023
00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:52,759
Speaker 4: So she says, you know, we should have had a

1024
00:44:52,760 --> 00:44:55,799
Speaker 4: girl's night like this just to talk, and Jane's really

1025
00:44:55,800 --> 00:44:59,080
Speaker 4: not into it, and Sidney's annoyed by that reaction, and

1026
00:44:59,120 --> 00:45:02,040
Speaker 4: she tells Jane, you know, Jane, you never change, and

1027
00:45:02,160 --> 00:45:05,719
Speaker 4: Jane says, neither do you, sid and then the fight

1028
00:45:05,880 --> 00:45:08,439
Speaker 4: starts to go and Sidney complains that Jane still thinks

1029
00:45:08,440 --> 00:45:11,000
Speaker 4: of her as a little kid, and Jane's tells sid

1030
00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:12,759
Speaker 4: that everyone in the family always had to pick up

1031
00:45:12,760 --> 00:45:16,120
Speaker 4: the pieces after Sid's wreckage, and sid says, well, everyone

1032
00:45:16,120 --> 00:45:19,399
Speaker 4: always ganged up on her, and Jane disagrees and tells

1033
00:45:19,400 --> 00:45:21,839
Speaker 4: Sidney that she's starting to get in the way, and

1034
00:45:21,920 --> 00:45:26,640
Speaker 4: Sidney replies, again, my fault, and she says maybe Jane

1035
00:45:26,719 --> 00:45:28,960
Speaker 4: is blaming Sidney for everything that's not working in her

1036
00:45:29,080 --> 00:45:32,400
Speaker 4: life and that Jane can't accept that Sidney's doing so well.

1037
00:45:33,360 --> 00:45:36,960
Speaker 4: Jane says she's not blaming sid but that sid says

1038
00:45:36,960 --> 00:45:39,800
Speaker 4: she knows Jane dumps her real feelings behind Sid's back,

1039
00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:42,320
Speaker 4: and she asks Jane, why does there always have to

1040
00:45:42,360 --> 00:45:44,040
Speaker 4: be this tension and why can't you just be happy

1041
00:45:44,040 --> 00:45:47,520
Speaker 4: for me. Jane says to sid that she thinks she's

1042
00:45:47,560 --> 00:45:49,960
Speaker 4: trying to steal her life and that she's always been

1043
00:45:50,040 --> 00:45:53,640
Speaker 4: jealous of her, and Sidney says, what I'm that terrible,

1044
00:45:54,040 --> 00:45:56,279
Speaker 4: and Jane responds that Sidney has picked this fight and

1045
00:45:56,320 --> 00:45:58,960
Speaker 4: deliberately is provoking her and this night was just a mistake.

1046
00:45:59,400 --> 00:46:02,200
Speaker 4: She gets up and leaves, telling sid she's going home,

1047
00:46:02,680 --> 00:46:04,640
Speaker 4: and Sydney doesn't stop her.

1048
00:46:04,920 --> 00:46:06,640
Speaker 1: And the audience is like, oh, surprise party.

1049
00:46:06,680 --> 00:46:09,680
Speaker 4: Wait, But then we see her wheels turn and there's

1050
00:46:09,719 --> 00:46:13,200
Speaker 4: a very faint smile on Sydney's face as Jane walks away,

1051
00:46:13,200 --> 00:46:15,680
Speaker 4: and she doesn't make her come back. So then we

1052
00:46:15,719 --> 00:46:18,000
Speaker 4: cut to the studio, the design studio, where they're waiting

1053
00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:22,040
Speaker 4: for this surprise birthday party. Surprises in full swing. Michael's

1054
00:46:22,040 --> 00:46:24,640
Speaker 4: looking at his watch waiting for her, and Billy walks

1055
00:46:24,640 --> 00:46:26,200
Speaker 4: in with the cake, candying it off to Michael, saying

1056
00:46:26,239 --> 00:46:29,240
Speaker 4: I'm getting a beer, and he ignores Allison, who's walking

1057
00:46:29,280 --> 00:46:29,960
Speaker 4: in behind him.

1058
00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:31,240
Speaker 1: So did we drive together?

1059
00:46:31,360 --> 00:46:33,080
Speaker 4: You must have, but very separate.

1060
00:46:33,200 --> 00:46:35,959
Speaker 3: But he was bringing the cake and you're very.

1061
00:46:35,920 --> 00:46:39,440
Speaker 4: Separate, as he said. So Michael sees Sidney walking up

1062
00:46:39,440 --> 00:46:42,320
Speaker 4: to the door and he gathers everyone together to greet Jane,

1063
00:46:42,320 --> 00:46:46,359
Speaker 4: but Sydney walks in alone, smiling, telling everyone Jane isn't

1064
00:46:46,400 --> 00:46:48,040
Speaker 4: coming and that she and Jane had a fight.

1065
00:46:48,280 --> 00:46:52,080
Speaker 3: She seems very happy about it, like so happy. So yeah,

1066
00:46:52,080 --> 00:46:55,879
Speaker 3: she's just so like we had a Yeah.

1067
00:46:55,560 --> 00:47:00,440
Speaker 4: She's she was very pleased to announce it in here

1068
00:47:00,480 --> 00:47:04,400
Speaker 4: I Am so funny, and Michael is exasperated and he

1069
00:47:04,520 --> 00:47:07,879
Speaker 4: leaves to go find Jane Sydney, saying, well, she started it,

1070
00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:10,360
Speaker 4: and then she heads off to get a beer. Alison

1071
00:47:10,400 --> 00:47:13,160
Speaker 4: goes over to Jake at the party, who seems very distracted,

1072
00:47:13,200 --> 00:47:17,279
Speaker 4: and she assures him that he's doing all that he can.

1073
00:47:17,480 --> 00:47:21,320
Speaker 4: And Jake tells Alison that he has never told Joe

1074
00:47:21,600 --> 00:47:23,880
Speaker 4: exactly how he feels about her, and that he hasn't

1075
00:47:23,960 --> 00:47:28,719
Speaker 4: felt this way before about anyone, so he's really struggling.

1076
00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:31,400
Speaker 4: He decides to leave the party. He's getting on his motorcycle.

1077
00:47:31,440 --> 00:47:34,000
Speaker 4: Billy and Allison both follow him outside of the parking lot,

1078
00:47:34,080 --> 00:47:38,480
Speaker 4: wearing red I might add, and Allison very passionately tries

1079
00:47:38,520 --> 00:47:41,239
Speaker 4: to convince him to give her space and just let her.

1080
00:47:41,440 --> 00:47:43,600
Speaker 4: You can't do this, don't go This isn't the way

1081
00:47:43,640 --> 00:47:45,640
Speaker 4: to do it. Yeah, But Jake says no, and he

1082
00:47:45,719 --> 00:47:48,120
Speaker 4: drives off into the night on his motorcycle and Billy

1083
00:47:48,600 --> 00:47:49,880
Speaker 4: Allison watch him.

1084
00:47:49,760 --> 00:47:52,440
Speaker 1: Go and I assumed, did you not that he was

1085
00:47:52,520 --> 00:47:55,840
Speaker 1: going to interrupt Joe.

1086
00:47:56,080 --> 00:47:58,239
Speaker 4: It seems like like he was going to go about me.

1087
00:47:58,360 --> 00:48:00,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, He's not going to just this happening.

1088
00:48:00,560 --> 00:48:02,399
Speaker 3: He's so afraid I'm going to choose my ex.

1089
00:48:02,440 --> 00:48:04,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, so he's going to find you in Los Angeles.

1090
00:48:04,760 --> 00:48:06,040
Speaker 1: I assume he's.

1091
00:48:05,920 --> 00:48:07,359
Speaker 3: Going to go to restaurant.

1092
00:48:07,719 --> 00:48:07,919
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1093
00:48:08,320 --> 00:48:13,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, we know he's not got you know, find my friends.

1094
00:48:13,600 --> 00:48:14,960
Speaker 4: He doesn't. He can't find her that way.

1095
00:48:15,680 --> 00:48:21,040
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1096
00:48:21,239 --> 00:48:23,520
Speaker 4: We got to the hotel lobby at night, where Charles

1097
00:48:23,560 --> 00:48:26,760
Speaker 4: and Joe are at a table and Charles is telling

1098
00:48:27,040 --> 00:48:30,320
Speaker 4: Joe again he calls her Beth that he's been honest

1099
00:48:30,360 --> 00:48:32,440
Speaker 4: with her ever since he's been there, but admits there

1100
00:48:32,480 --> 00:48:35,680
Speaker 4: wasn't enough honesty in their lives before, and Joe points

1101
00:48:35,719 --> 00:48:41,040
Speaker 4: out that they never talked before. Charles asks her if

1102
00:48:41,040 --> 00:48:43,080
Speaker 4: there's anyone new in her life?

1103
00:48:43,160 --> 00:48:44,600
Speaker 3: Okay, all right, we just.

1104
00:48:44,480 --> 00:48:48,359
Speaker 2: Need to stop because there's universal laws around this. If

1105
00:48:48,400 --> 00:48:51,040
Speaker 2: an ex or anybody ever asked.

1106
00:48:50,760 --> 00:48:55,240
Speaker 3: You, so, is there anyone new? What do you say?

1107
00:48:55,800 --> 00:49:01,919
Speaker 3: Not your business or no? I know you never ever

1108
00:49:02,040 --> 00:49:03,920
Speaker 3: give in to the come on. I just want to know.

1109
00:49:03,920 --> 00:49:05,480
Speaker 3: I'm just curious, and you.

1110
00:49:05,640 --> 00:49:08,640
Speaker 2: Never tell them there's someone else that you're interested in that.

1111
00:49:08,719 --> 00:49:10,680
Speaker 4: She does sort of try to say, well, it doesn't matter,

1112
00:49:11,680 --> 00:49:13,279
Speaker 4: but she doesn't say no. She just said to the

1113
00:49:13,360 --> 00:49:15,960
Speaker 4: master's such a sucker, and he says, well, I just

1114
00:49:16,000 --> 00:49:18,160
Speaker 4: want to know. I just want to know if I

1115
00:49:18,200 --> 00:49:22,040
Speaker 4: can handle the news. And so she tells him about Jake, saying, well,

1116
00:49:22,080 --> 00:49:24,359
Speaker 4: it's nothing I would call serious, and Jake is very

1117
00:49:24,440 --> 00:49:27,480
Speaker 4: different from you more rough edges, she says, and Charles

1118
00:49:27,640 --> 00:49:28,440
Speaker 4: that guy is.

1119
00:49:28,360 --> 00:49:30,800
Speaker 3: The guy in the building. That yeah, it's him, And.

1120
00:49:30,760 --> 00:49:32,839
Speaker 4: Charles says, you know, I'm not jealous, and he tries

1121
00:49:32,880 --> 00:49:36,040
Speaker 4: to show Joe just how steady his hand is to

1122
00:49:36,200 --> 00:49:40,279
Speaker 4: prove jealous, and then you see him slowly close it

1123
00:49:40,320 --> 00:49:41,000
Speaker 4: into a fist.

1124
00:49:41,120 --> 00:49:41,239
Speaker 1: Yea.

1125
00:49:41,400 --> 00:49:43,960
Speaker 4: He was like, that is not I mean huge misting.

1126
00:49:44,040 --> 00:49:46,640
Speaker 3: But am I right? You don't ever tell anyone it's

1127
00:49:46,680 --> 00:49:47,319
Speaker 3: you see to have a.

1128
00:49:47,320 --> 00:49:49,320
Speaker 1: Separate section called dating rules by Daphney.

1129
00:49:49,800 --> 00:49:52,600
Speaker 2: That's right, because you know what, I've been there and

1130
00:49:52,640 --> 00:49:55,080
Speaker 2: done that, and I've made all the mistakes and made

1131
00:49:55,080 --> 00:49:57,840
Speaker 2: some triumphs, and I'm happy to help anybody. And I

1132
00:49:57,920 --> 00:50:00,600
Speaker 2: will say if anyone, if an ext ever asked you.

1133
00:50:00,640 --> 00:50:02,879
Speaker 3: I just want to know. I'm just curious. You never

1134
00:50:03,040 --> 00:50:04,920
Speaker 3: say yes, all right, So.

1135
00:50:06,400 --> 00:50:08,960
Speaker 4: Joe's mistake is saying yes, And we cut to the

1136
00:50:09,880 --> 00:50:13,040
Speaker 4: design studio again at the surprise party, where Michael brings

1137
00:50:13,160 --> 00:50:16,400
Speaker 4: Jane in the door and everyone yells surprise. We can

1138
00:50:16,440 --> 00:50:18,640
Speaker 4: see that she's not really surprised. Michael explains that she

1139
00:50:18,680 --> 00:50:20,640
Speaker 4: had to tell Jane just to get her over there,

1140
00:50:21,360 --> 00:50:24,480
Speaker 4: and so she thanks everyone for coming, then finds sid

1141
00:50:24,520 --> 00:50:26,960
Speaker 4: immediately until Sid that she needs to be out of

1142
00:50:26,960 --> 00:50:29,719
Speaker 4: the apartment by tomorrow night, and that they don't get along,

1143
00:50:29,800 --> 00:50:33,800
Speaker 4: they never will, and that it's life and I'm tired

1144
00:50:33,920 --> 00:50:37,360
Speaker 4: of fighting it. Sidney tells Jane she won't have to

1145
00:50:37,360 --> 00:50:39,319
Speaker 4: wait until tomorrow night, and she heads from the door.

1146
00:50:41,040 --> 00:50:43,040
Speaker 4: So we cut to the courtyard. Later that night, Joe

1147
00:50:43,080 --> 00:50:46,040
Speaker 4: is walking alongside the pool where Jake is swimming laps.

1148
00:50:46,280 --> 00:50:48,239
Speaker 4: He gets out of the pool, thank you very much.

1149
00:50:48,320 --> 00:50:50,319
Speaker 1: Which is not what Alison and Billy thought they were

1150
00:50:50,360 --> 00:50:51,239
Speaker 1: stopping him from doing.

1151
00:50:51,280 --> 00:50:53,080
Speaker 3: By the way, No, he went home.

1152
00:50:55,080 --> 00:50:58,040
Speaker 4: There to go do last Yeah, but look she found

1153
00:50:58,120 --> 00:50:59,879
Speaker 4: him and he tells Joe.

1154
00:51:00,160 --> 00:51:03,000
Speaker 2: I figured she's isn't this where she's wearing her really

1155
00:51:03,000 --> 00:51:04,520
Speaker 2: cool smoking jacket yet And.

1156
00:51:07,600 --> 00:51:09,640
Speaker 4: She's wearing the really cool smoking jacket I thought in

1157
00:51:09,680 --> 00:51:11,040
Speaker 4: the scene with Alison.

1158
00:51:11,360 --> 00:51:14,359
Speaker 2: I noticed she's wearing it now because I know she's

1159
00:51:14,360 --> 00:51:14,960
Speaker 2: in the next scene.

1160
00:51:15,000 --> 00:51:16,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's very cool.

1161
00:51:17,280 --> 00:51:18,560
Speaker 4: Joe had great wardrobe for this.

1162
00:51:18,880 --> 00:51:21,279
Speaker 3: She could have had like a cigarette with a cigarette.

1163
00:51:21,200 --> 00:51:24,279
Speaker 1: Could have borrowed one from Sydney and an apple. It's

1164
00:51:24,280 --> 00:51:27,160
Speaker 1: a lot to do, but it's worth it.

1165
00:51:27,239 --> 00:51:29,560
Speaker 4: Joe says that she's been meaning to talk to him,

1166
00:51:29,880 --> 00:51:32,880
Speaker 4: but that she hasn't had anything to say. She says,

1167
00:51:33,040 --> 00:51:35,919
Speaker 4: and he tells her don't worry about it, and Joe

1168
00:51:35,920 --> 00:51:38,879
Speaker 4: can see that he's mad. Jake admits that he's angry, saying,

1169
00:51:38,920 --> 00:51:41,080
Speaker 4: I'm scared to death that I just fell in love

1170
00:51:41,080 --> 00:51:43,160
Speaker 4: with someone that I'm going to lose before we even

1171
00:51:43,160 --> 00:51:43,840
Speaker 4: get started.

1172
00:51:43,920 --> 00:51:47,520
Speaker 1: Okay, And then Joe doesn't acknowledge that he said I

1173
00:51:47,680 --> 00:51:49,120
Speaker 1: just fell in love with someone.

1174
00:51:49,000 --> 00:51:51,960
Speaker 4: Right, No, she gets she gets sort of angry.

1175
00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:54,440
Speaker 2: It was he's a little so beautifully how it first

1176
00:51:54,440 --> 00:51:56,640
Speaker 2: gets out of the pool, just to remind her what

1177
00:51:56,719 --> 00:51:57,879
Speaker 2: she might be missing.

1178
00:51:59,400 --> 00:52:00,520
Speaker 3: And falling a lot with you?

1179
00:52:00,680 --> 00:52:05,000
Speaker 4: Why, Yeah, this is dawns And yet she becomes angry

1180
00:52:05,040 --> 00:52:08,239
Speaker 4: about that for some reason, and she.

1181
00:52:08,280 --> 00:52:10,800
Speaker 1: Says, there's no acknowledgment, there's not even like the worst answer,

1182
00:52:10,800 --> 00:52:12,279
Speaker 1: which is thank you.

1183
00:52:12,440 --> 00:52:15,799
Speaker 4: No, she says, instead, I shouldn't have come to talk

1184
00:52:15,840 --> 00:52:18,880
Speaker 4: to you, and she turns to go and Jake is

1185
00:52:18,960 --> 00:52:21,319
Speaker 4: upset that Joe is running away again, and he calls

1186
00:52:21,320 --> 00:52:23,719
Speaker 4: her out for that. He reminds Joe that when he

1187
00:52:23,800 --> 00:52:25,960
Speaker 4: met her, she wanted to rediscover herself and make it

1188
00:52:26,000 --> 00:52:27,440
Speaker 4: on her own, and now she's running back to the

1189
00:52:27,480 --> 00:52:30,399
Speaker 4: same things she left, and Joe pissed, probably because he's

1190
00:52:30,400 --> 00:52:33,080
Speaker 4: telling the truth. She screams at him, this isn't fair,

1191
00:52:33,560 --> 00:52:35,799
Speaker 4: to which Jake replies, tell me about it.

1192
00:52:36,640 --> 00:52:36,839
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1193
00:52:37,200 --> 00:52:39,960
Speaker 4: Joe tells Jake go to hell, and she runs upstairs,

1194
00:52:40,000 --> 00:52:42,480
Speaker 4: closing her door and crying inside her A partner, you see,

1195
00:52:42,480 --> 00:52:45,080
Speaker 4: she's totally struggling with all of this.

1196
00:52:45,480 --> 00:52:49,640
Speaker 3: That is related quickly, That escalated quickly. Yeah. Yeah.

1197
00:52:49,960 --> 00:52:52,720
Speaker 4: So back at Allison and Billy's apartment, Billy is eating

1198
00:52:52,719 --> 00:52:54,880
Speaker 4: on the couch watching TV when Alison walks in in

1199
00:52:54,920 --> 00:52:56,800
Speaker 4: her cozy blue.

1200
00:52:56,400 --> 00:52:59,200
Speaker 3: Bathrobe iconic bathroom yep, and.

1201
00:52:59,160 --> 00:53:01,279
Speaker 4: She turns off the TELL vision sits right in front

1202
00:53:01,280 --> 00:53:03,520
Speaker 4: of it, blocking it, telling Billy that there's some sort

1203
00:53:03,520 --> 00:53:06,080
Speaker 4: of odd jealousy between them and there's no reason that

1204
00:53:06,120 --> 00:53:10,280
Speaker 4: they can't go places together as friends, and Billy tells Alison,

1205
00:53:10,520 --> 00:53:13,080
Speaker 4: you're blowing things out of proportion, and I get it,

1206
00:53:13,160 --> 00:53:15,759
Speaker 4: you know, it's okay, you're more attracted to him. It's

1207
00:53:15,800 --> 00:53:17,919
Speaker 4: okay if you're not attracted to me, and he says,

1208
00:53:17,960 --> 00:53:19,759
Speaker 4: you know, that's okay because I'm not attracted to you either,

1209
00:53:19,800 --> 00:53:23,120
Speaker 4: so don't sweat it. But he wonders aloud, perhaps.

1210
00:53:22,719 --> 00:53:29,080
Speaker 5: Oh, Danny Boy couldn't close the deal after all, Danny boy.

1211
00:53:29,360 --> 00:53:34,480
Speaker 5: So Alison asks Billy Boy exactly how he would close

1212
00:53:34,480 --> 00:53:35,520
Speaker 5: the deal, and.

1213
00:53:35,480 --> 00:53:39,440
Speaker 4: Billy takes that bait. He tosses his snacks down and

1214
00:53:39,440 --> 00:53:41,600
Speaker 4: he jumps up to show Alison just how he would

1215
00:53:41,640 --> 00:53:44,600
Speaker 4: ply her with her favorite snacks and play her favorite

1216
00:53:44,640 --> 00:53:48,080
Speaker 4: sexy music. And then he spins Alison around and tells

1217
00:53:48,080 --> 00:53:50,839
Speaker 4: her maybe he'd even impress her with his famous monkey impersonation.

1218
00:53:51,400 --> 00:53:54,399
Speaker 4: Alison is laughing hysterically. Billy swoops her up in his arms,

1219
00:53:54,400 --> 00:53:56,480
Speaker 4: throws her down on the couch, leaning over her while

1220
00:53:56,520 --> 00:53:59,680
Speaker 4: she is breathless and smiling, and Billy pointedly says, women

1221
00:53:59,760 --> 00:54:02,160
Speaker 4: love it sense of humor, and he leaves her and

1222
00:54:02,160 --> 00:54:04,600
Speaker 4: he says good night, Alis and buddy, old pal.

1223
00:54:04,840 --> 00:54:07,200
Speaker 1: And it's so cute because he's telling her right. He

1224
00:54:07,280 --> 00:54:10,480
Speaker 1: knows what she likes, he knows her music. He's funny

1225
00:54:10,480 --> 00:54:14,399
Speaker 1: and adorable. And then leaves her literally breathless, leaves her

1226
00:54:14,560 --> 00:54:16,200
Speaker 1: literally breathless alone.

1227
00:54:15,840 --> 00:54:16,320
Speaker 3: On the couch.

1228
00:54:16,320 --> 00:54:18,680
Speaker 2: It's a savvy move to go with the humor angle

1229
00:54:19,239 --> 00:54:21,480
Speaker 2: as opposed to like the straight on seductive anger Willow.

1230
00:54:21,640 --> 00:54:24,680
Speaker 1: It also, as you said, like the dichotomy between their

1231
00:54:24,719 --> 00:54:27,640
Speaker 1: stuff was going on with Jake and Joe is so good,

1232
00:54:27,719 --> 00:54:30,520
Speaker 1: like dark and serious and intense and then monkey impression.

1233
00:54:30,560 --> 00:54:32,160
Speaker 1: It's such a nice balance.

1234
00:54:32,440 --> 00:54:35,600
Speaker 4: Well, we get to see Andrew uses little soccer skills too,

1235
00:54:35,640 --> 00:54:37,960
Speaker 4: because he like flips the snack bag and catches it.

1236
00:54:39,000 --> 00:54:41,799
Speaker 3: Yes, like total Andrew's great.

1237
00:54:41,640 --> 00:54:44,239
Speaker 4: When he gets this opportunity to be physical and an

1238
00:54:44,280 --> 00:54:47,760
Speaker 4: adorable thing so charming, Alison is left really to rethink

1239
00:54:47,760 --> 00:54:48,280
Speaker 4: her choices.

1240
00:54:48,480 --> 00:54:48,799
Speaker 2: M hmm.

1241
00:54:49,040 --> 00:54:50,879
Speaker 4: So then we cut to Joe's apartment later that night,

1242
00:54:50,920 --> 00:54:54,640
Speaker 4: where she's awakened by someone banging loudly at her front door.

1243
00:54:54,719 --> 00:54:57,000
Speaker 4: She asks through the door who is it, and it's Charles.

1244
00:54:57,000 --> 00:54:58,480
Speaker 4: He says he wants to come talk to her, and

1245
00:54:58,560 --> 00:55:02,680
Speaker 4: she unwisely opened the door. He comes barreling into Joe's

1246
00:55:02,719 --> 00:55:05,719
Speaker 4: apartment and Joe realizes very quickly he's been drinking. He

1247
00:55:05,840 --> 00:55:08,640
Speaker 4: shouts at her that she had no business screwing around

1248
00:55:08,640 --> 00:55:11,719
Speaker 4: with a bum downstairs, and Joe tells him to leave immediately,

1249
00:55:11,760 --> 00:55:15,759
Speaker 4: and he refuses. Charles gets more angry, grabbing Joe and

1250
00:55:15,800 --> 00:55:18,960
Speaker 4: flinging her around, spewing vitriol at her, and Joe threatens

1251
00:55:19,000 --> 00:55:20,640
Speaker 4: to call the police, but he tears the phone off

1252
00:55:20,640 --> 00:55:23,040
Speaker 4: the wall, grabbing Joe some more and telling her that

1253
00:55:23,080 --> 00:55:26,040
Speaker 4: she's ungrateful and selfish and he's rageful and that he

1254
00:55:26,120 --> 00:55:28,319
Speaker 4: was humiliated when Joe left him, and he says she

1255
00:55:28,480 --> 00:55:30,719
Speaker 4: owes him, and she tries to rip her clothes as

1256
00:55:30,760 --> 00:55:33,560
Speaker 4: she tries to get away from him. Just awful, and

1257
00:55:33,640 --> 00:55:36,000
Speaker 4: Joe's begging him to leave, and she finally just just

1258
00:55:36,080 --> 00:55:38,440
Speaker 4: crumpled to the floor and she's telling Charles that he

1259
00:55:38,480 --> 00:55:42,080
Speaker 4: needs help, and Charles finally finally lets up, and he

1260
00:55:42,120 --> 00:55:44,279
Speaker 4: tells Joe she's not even worth it, that she was

1261
00:55:44,360 --> 00:55:47,440
Speaker 4: nothing before she met him and she has nothing again.

1262
00:55:47,480 --> 00:55:49,760
Speaker 1: And we get a little insight into what their marriage

1263
00:55:49,800 --> 00:55:51,560
Speaker 1: really was like, right and at this is that moment

1264
00:55:51,560 --> 00:55:54,120
Speaker 1: you're trying. They make all these promises, make all these promises,

1265
00:55:54,160 --> 00:55:56,120
Speaker 1: and you go, Okay, one more chance, and then you're

1266
00:55:56,160 --> 00:55:58,520
Speaker 1: back in this moment again and going, oh, it's.

1267
00:55:58,400 --> 00:56:04,520
Speaker 2: Awful because she triggered some jealousy in him. The biggest

1268
00:56:04,560 --> 00:56:06,879
Speaker 2: kind of jealousy is when he said is there another man?

1269
00:56:06,960 --> 00:56:08,160
Speaker 3: That was very purposeful, but.

1270
00:56:08,160 --> 00:56:10,080
Speaker 1: It would have been something, right, It wasn't about anything

1271
00:56:10,120 --> 00:56:12,080
Speaker 1: she did. It would have been something because this is

1272
00:56:12,080 --> 00:56:15,200
Speaker 1: who he really is true at some point, right.

1273
00:56:15,280 --> 00:56:19,240
Speaker 2: But I think that also, you know, ask any jealous

1274
00:56:19,280 --> 00:56:20,000
Speaker 2: and secure man.

1275
00:56:20,200 --> 00:56:22,919
Speaker 3: That's the main trigger. So that's you know.

1276
00:56:23,360 --> 00:56:25,560
Speaker 4: This is just his cycle, like he's always go back

1277
00:56:25,640 --> 00:56:25,800
Speaker 4: to it.

1278
00:56:26,200 --> 00:56:28,440
Speaker 2: But I'm just saying, like you got to really see

1279
00:56:28,520 --> 00:56:30,160
Speaker 2: how the written story was.

1280
00:56:30,239 --> 00:56:31,440
Speaker 3: That was a specific question.

1281
00:56:31,560 --> 00:56:34,959
Speaker 2: This is the result, and now the whole world gets

1282
00:56:35,000 --> 00:56:37,920
Speaker 2: to see this tough, cool woman who we've seen her

1283
00:56:37,960 --> 00:56:41,560
Speaker 2: on Melow's place in this in this apartment building is

1284
00:56:41,640 --> 00:56:46,359
Speaker 2: absolutely destroyed into rubble by this man.

1285
00:56:47,080 --> 00:56:49,799
Speaker 3: You know, really scary, very scary. I had to I

1286
00:56:49,840 --> 00:56:50,759
Speaker 3: watched this a few times.

1287
00:56:50,760 --> 00:56:53,560
Speaker 4: I just zoomed through it, and he was terrific in

1288
00:56:53,600 --> 00:56:56,080
Speaker 4: this scene to just that rage that came out he was.

1289
00:56:56,239 --> 00:56:57,840
Speaker 4: I mean, he had so much to do and it

1290
00:56:57,880 --> 00:57:00,880
Speaker 4: was physical and stuff like that. It's just terrifying scene

1291
00:57:00,920 --> 00:57:02,680
Speaker 4: and he just played it very incastantly.

1292
00:57:03,080 --> 00:57:05,080
Speaker 1: We do know, and we say that a lot like

1293
00:57:05,080 --> 00:57:06,960
Speaker 1: when guest stars come in and they're coming into a

1294
00:57:06,960 --> 00:57:09,719
Speaker 1: new set. It's really impressive when they can take over

1295
00:57:09,840 --> 00:57:11,680
Speaker 1: like that and really be that pass like.

1296
00:57:11,719 --> 00:57:12,560
Speaker 3: They own the place.

1297
00:57:12,680 --> 00:57:13,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, they own that character.

1298
00:57:14,160 --> 00:57:16,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, admire that strong.

1299
00:57:16,120 --> 00:57:19,520
Speaker 4: As he leaves the apartment, Jake is just on his

1300
00:57:19,600 --> 00:57:21,760
Speaker 4: way up the stairs and Jake asks Joe in the

1301
00:57:21,800 --> 00:57:25,000
Speaker 4: doorway are you okay? And Joe tells Jake and Charles

1302
00:57:25,040 --> 00:57:27,680
Speaker 4: to both just leave her alone, and she slams her door.

1303
00:57:28,320 --> 00:57:31,560
Speaker 4: Then Charles brushes by Jake on the stairs saying, funny,

1304
00:57:31,680 --> 00:57:32,840
Speaker 4: I don't see any rough.

1305
00:57:32,760 --> 00:57:34,760
Speaker 3: Edges, refers to what she said.

1306
00:57:34,840 --> 00:57:37,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, there is someone. He's different than you, a little

1307
00:57:37,360 --> 00:57:39,600
Speaker 2: rough around the edges. She said that to him, So

1308
00:57:39,640 --> 00:57:42,680
Speaker 2: he's insulting. He's very purposely saying, she talked to me

1309
00:57:42,720 --> 00:57:45,480
Speaker 2: about you, and I'm going to insult you and you

1310
00:57:45,520 --> 00:57:47,080
Speaker 2: know out her at the same time.

1311
00:57:47,680 --> 00:57:52,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, because you see how Jake received it and heartbreaking shoes.

1312
00:57:52,280 --> 00:57:54,640
Speaker 1: You can't let Jake come, who's actually wanting to come

1313
00:57:54,640 --> 00:57:56,240
Speaker 1: and see you and take care of you, because you're

1314
00:57:56,360 --> 00:57:58,400
Speaker 1: so upset and angry, right, So you say both of

1315
00:57:58,440 --> 00:57:59,760
Speaker 1: them leave you alone, and the audience is.

1316
00:57:59,720 --> 00:58:02,720
Speaker 3: Pomp no, no, no, let Jake up. Yeah.

1317
00:58:03,360 --> 00:58:05,240
Speaker 4: Can you imagine what Charles would have done if you

1318
00:58:05,520 --> 00:58:08,000
Speaker 4: if Joe had said, yeah, come on in Jake, like

1319
00:58:09,160 --> 00:58:11,680
Speaker 4: this would not be the time to accept his niceness.

1320
00:58:11,840 --> 00:58:12,400
Speaker 1: Very good point.

1321
00:58:12,480 --> 00:58:12,880
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1322
00:58:12,920 --> 00:58:15,560
Speaker 4: So back at Jane and Michael's apartment in the morning,

1323
00:58:15,680 --> 00:58:17,640
Speaker 4: Sydney is all packed up and she's about to leave.

1324
00:58:17,800 --> 00:58:20,880
Speaker 4: Jane comes out in her pg's saying wait. Sydney gives

1325
00:58:20,920 --> 00:58:22,720
Speaker 4: her a note saying, you know, I just like to

1326
00:58:22,800 --> 00:58:25,680
Speaker 4: leave without a lot of fanfare, and then she admits

1327
00:58:25,720 --> 00:58:28,600
Speaker 4: to Jane that she let her walk out of shooters

1328
00:58:28,640 --> 00:58:30,960
Speaker 4: and that she had wanted to ruin Jane's party, saying

1329
00:58:31,040 --> 00:58:33,560
Speaker 4: she just couldn't stop herself and that she knows it

1330
00:58:33,600 --> 00:58:34,480
Speaker 4: was just a chance to hurt.

1331
00:58:34,640 --> 00:58:35,960
Speaker 3: I really liked Finally.

1332
00:58:36,120 --> 00:58:40,200
Speaker 2: I liked seeing Sidney admit the how manipulative, how that

1333
00:58:40,240 --> 00:58:42,760
Speaker 2: comes from her insecurity that you have said, you know,

1334
00:58:42,760 --> 00:58:45,880
Speaker 2: but I liked her finally I could exhale, just breathe

1335
00:58:45,880 --> 00:58:47,760
Speaker 2: with her going Okay, she's going to be honest here.

1336
00:58:47,800 --> 00:58:48,880
Speaker 3: It was like the.

1337
00:58:48,600 --> 00:58:51,440
Speaker 2: Only the only time I've seen her be kind of

1338
00:58:51,480 --> 00:58:53,840
Speaker 2: real with that behavior.

1339
00:58:54,040 --> 00:58:56,040
Speaker 4: It was really important for the character to be able

1340
00:58:56,120 --> 00:58:58,280
Speaker 4: to say I did this, You're right, and I'm awful

1341
00:58:58,320 --> 00:58:59,520
Speaker 4: and I don't know why I do it. I just

1342
00:58:59,520 --> 00:59:00,000
Speaker 4: can't stop.

1343
00:59:00,280 --> 00:59:03,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, yes, yeah, and then open the door for Jane

1344
00:59:03,880 --> 00:59:06,320
Speaker 1: to talk about her part. It's a really sweet I

1345
00:59:06,400 --> 00:59:09,000
Speaker 1: related as a sister, Like I really related to this scene.

1346
00:59:09,120 --> 00:59:09,800
Speaker 3: Yeah too.

1347
00:59:10,280 --> 00:59:12,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, and Sidney admits that she always wanted to be

1348
00:59:12,400 --> 00:59:14,920
Speaker 4: like Jane, and she knows her parents are just going

1349
00:59:15,000 --> 00:59:17,520
Speaker 4: to be disappointed in her for flunking out of another school,

1350
00:59:17,640 --> 00:59:20,160
Speaker 4: but she says, you know, at least I may have

1351
00:59:20,200 --> 00:59:23,400
Speaker 4: some direction now. And Jane then offers that Michael could

1352
00:59:23,440 --> 00:59:25,320
Speaker 4: drive her to the airport, but Sidney says Billie's going

1353
00:59:25,400 --> 00:59:28,320
Speaker 4: to drive her in his cab, and she goes to leave,

1354
00:59:28,400 --> 00:59:30,160
Speaker 4: and Jane stops her at the door and says, I

1355
00:59:30,200 --> 00:59:33,280
Speaker 4: love you said, and Sydney turns back to hug Jane,

1356
00:59:33,400 --> 00:59:35,680
Speaker 4: saying me too, before she hurries.

1357
00:59:35,400 --> 00:59:36,520
Speaker 3: Out the door. And it's so sweet.

1358
00:59:36,520 --> 00:59:38,000
Speaker 1: The other thing I liked about this scene is they're

1359
00:59:38,000 --> 00:59:40,120
Speaker 1: talking about the roles they were assigned when they're young,

1360
00:59:40,160 --> 00:59:41,000
Speaker 1: and you know, what do we do the rest of

1361
00:59:41,040 --> 00:59:42,840
Speaker 1: our lives in therapy? We try to sort of feel

1362
00:59:42,880 --> 00:59:45,720
Speaker 1: this apart because we're still playing these assigned roles. Yeah,

1363
00:59:45,760 --> 00:59:47,880
Speaker 1: and I thought this scene did that really beautifully.

1364
00:59:48,480 --> 00:59:50,200
Speaker 4: So then we cut to Matt's apartment where he's doing

1365
00:59:50,200 --> 00:59:52,720
Speaker 4: sit ups on the floor and Ron is asking him

1366
00:59:52,760 --> 00:59:54,760
Speaker 4: why he barely talked to her last night at this

1367
00:59:54,800 --> 00:59:57,240
Speaker 4: prize party, and Matt just tries to deflect, but he

1368
00:59:57,280 --> 01:00:00,840
Speaker 4: finally admits that he's just feeling scared to not only

1369
01:00:00,880 --> 01:00:03,320
Speaker 4: find someone for himself like she has, but that he's

1370
01:00:03,360 --> 01:00:06,840
Speaker 4: also really afraid of losing Ronda, and Ronda says they

1371
01:00:06,880 --> 01:00:09,200
Speaker 4: won't lose the friendship that they have, and Matt tells

1372
01:00:09,240 --> 01:00:11,360
Speaker 4: Ronda that he really is happy for her, and he

1373
01:00:11,520 --> 01:00:16,680
Speaker 4: asks to be her best man, so sweet she agrees

1374
01:00:16,720 --> 01:00:19,560
Speaker 4: that wow, having a best man, that'd be really cool,

1375
01:00:19,600 --> 01:00:23,120
Speaker 4: and she says to hell with tradition and they hug.

1376
01:00:23,400 --> 01:00:26,480
Speaker 4: We cut to the hotel lobby where Joe walks up

1377
01:00:26,560 --> 01:00:28,920
Speaker 4: and finds Charles at the desk while he's checking out

1378
01:00:28,920 --> 01:00:31,960
Speaker 4: of the hotel, and Joe tells him that she is

1379
01:00:32,040 --> 01:00:34,320
Speaker 4: filing for divorce, she's getting on with her life, and

1380
01:00:34,360 --> 01:00:38,200
Speaker 4: that he owes her this chance, at which time Charles

1381
01:00:38,240 --> 01:00:41,040
Speaker 4: pulls out a way of cash, saying I owe you,

1382
01:00:41,800 --> 01:00:44,600
Speaker 4: and he gives her a wad of money, saying there

1383
01:00:44,840 --> 01:00:47,120
Speaker 4: that's what I pay all my whores.

1384
01:00:47,720 --> 01:00:48,120
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1385
01:00:48,160 --> 01:00:50,880
Speaker 2: So the first time I watched this, I just was like, oh, okay.

1386
01:00:50,920 --> 01:00:52,840
Speaker 2: The second time I watched it, I noticed that he's

1387
01:00:52,840 --> 01:00:56,400
Speaker 2: getting change from the concierge from the desk, and I'm

1388
01:00:56,400 --> 01:00:58,600
Speaker 2: hearing you hear the extra the guy like counting out

1389
01:00:58,600 --> 01:01:03,880
Speaker 2: the bills, because I froze that, how big are those bills?

1390
01:01:05,040 --> 01:01:08,520
Speaker 2: Just like I hear good one, I'm like ones. Because

1391
01:01:08,560 --> 01:01:11,840
Speaker 2: he's counting out the money. Then Lyndon grabs the money

1392
01:01:11,840 --> 01:01:14,480
Speaker 2: and goes here, you can have it. But I'm sure

1393
01:01:14,520 --> 01:01:17,760
Speaker 2: it was wasn't one. It was one hundreds, right, two hundred,

1394
01:01:17,840 --> 01:01:18,720
Speaker 2: three hundred.

1395
01:01:18,480 --> 01:01:20,400
Speaker 4: Of course it was. Well you tell your he's just

1396
01:01:20,440 --> 01:01:23,520
Speaker 4: so defensive. That's when I paid all my It's just

1397
01:01:23,600 --> 01:01:25,160
Speaker 4: so nasty and so nast.

1398
01:01:25,040 --> 01:01:27,360
Speaker 2: The moment is she takes it, and you're going, is

1399
01:01:27,400 --> 01:01:29,120
Speaker 2: she going to take it? Because she's taking the insult.

1400
01:01:29,160 --> 01:01:31,000
Speaker 2: If she takes the money, you know, she.

1401
01:01:30,960 --> 01:01:32,880
Speaker 3: Could throw it at him, she could walk away without it.

1402
01:01:32,920 --> 01:01:36,080
Speaker 3: But she takes it, and you think, oh, she got

1403
01:01:36,320 --> 01:01:38,440
Speaker 3: so I'm thinking, well, yeah, take it, spend it. You know,

1404
01:01:38,440 --> 01:01:39,440
Speaker 3: it's five hunt whatever.

1405
01:01:40,160 --> 01:01:42,320
Speaker 2: Dignity wise, you don't want her to take the money

1406
01:01:42,360 --> 01:01:44,520
Speaker 2: because he calls her a whore, but she's and then.

1407
01:01:44,600 --> 01:01:48,200
Speaker 4: Martley insults him right back by handhands in the bellman

1408
01:01:48,280 --> 01:01:50,280
Speaker 4: on the way out, saying, this is for you, mister

1409
01:01:50,400 --> 01:01:54,080
Speaker 4: Reynold's big tipper and not much else.

1410
01:01:54,280 --> 01:01:58,120
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, she gets the last and then she stalks

1411
01:01:58,160 --> 01:02:00,480
Speaker 2: off and he noticed that she's back to her self

1412
01:02:00,480 --> 01:02:02,520
Speaker 2: in this scene. She walks in with a leather vest

1413
01:02:03,440 --> 01:02:07,200
Speaker 2: that like long sleeve black under her black jeans and

1414
01:02:07,440 --> 01:02:09,120
Speaker 2: uh so she's had it.

1415
01:02:09,200 --> 01:02:11,000
Speaker 3: She's like, okay, I tried, and.

1416
01:02:11,880 --> 01:02:13,320
Speaker 2: You know, she had to do a little research and

1417
01:02:13,360 --> 01:02:15,600
Speaker 2: she discovered what she knew and she.

1418
01:02:15,560 --> 01:02:18,440
Speaker 4: Has a dignity and she got the last word, and yes,

1419
01:02:18,560 --> 01:02:20,440
Speaker 4: she's put her foot down. So then we cut to

1420
01:02:20,480 --> 01:02:23,000
Speaker 4: the courtyard where Jake is cleaning his motorcycle next to

1421
01:02:23,040 --> 01:02:25,800
Speaker 4: the pool while Joe looks on very sexily leaning over

1422
01:02:25,840 --> 01:02:26,280
Speaker 4: his bike.

1423
01:02:26,640 --> 01:02:28,520
Speaker 2: You see that you pull out that it's a close up.

1424
01:02:28,560 --> 01:02:31,040
Speaker 2: You see this the hand kind of like moving the rag.

1425
01:02:31,080 --> 01:02:33,400
Speaker 2: He reaches up for the rag and you see the

1426
01:02:34,080 --> 01:02:37,080
Speaker 2: hand like move it the rag away just out of

1427
01:02:37,120 --> 01:02:37,840
Speaker 2: his reach.

1428
01:02:38,120 --> 01:02:40,200
Speaker 3: Like she's playing with him, and he's like, what's going on,

1429
01:02:40,280 --> 01:02:43,000
Speaker 3: and she's like, when you're done doing those will you

1430
01:02:43,320 --> 01:02:49,720
Speaker 3: can do it, He's like cleaning the pipes. She is

1431
01:02:49,840 --> 01:02:51,360
Speaker 3: back to her old self, I guess.

1432
01:02:51,400 --> 01:02:53,960
Speaker 4: So then she tells him that Charles is going back

1433
01:02:53,960 --> 01:02:56,120
Speaker 4: to New York and she's filing for divorce. And she

1434
01:02:56,160 --> 01:02:58,480
Speaker 4: tells Jake she really appreciates the space that he had

1435
01:02:58,480 --> 01:03:00,960
Speaker 4: given her, that Jake gave her, but she'll also need

1436
01:03:01,000 --> 01:03:03,240
Speaker 4: a little bit of time before committing to anyone else.

1437
01:03:03,840 --> 01:03:07,240
Speaker 3: Jake says, he just doesn't how much time I know.

1438
01:03:07,320 --> 01:03:08,840
Speaker 4: And Jake has a cute line. He says that he

1439
01:03:08,920 --> 01:03:11,440
Speaker 4: just doesn't want to lose his place in line, and

1440
01:03:11,440 --> 01:03:12,400
Speaker 4: then Joe asks.

1441
01:03:12,240 --> 01:03:14,480
Speaker 3: Him to write a good line, right, and she smiles.

1442
01:03:14,560 --> 01:03:17,520
Speaker 3: She's like, you got your your place secured, don't you worry?

1443
01:03:17,640 --> 01:03:20,000
Speaker 1: Joe as a line, but I was thinking Grant has

1444
01:03:20,080 --> 01:03:23,920
Speaker 1: never had to wait in line to the front.

1445
01:03:25,400 --> 01:03:29,000
Speaker 4: Way at the friend of the Joe asks him to

1446
01:03:29,200 --> 01:03:31,400
Speaker 4: ride up the coast later and he agrees and she

1447
01:03:31,520 --> 01:03:32,600
Speaker 4: heads towards her stairs.

1448
01:03:32,680 --> 01:03:37,520
Speaker 2: Okay, everyone go ahead, describe this moment, the hot moment.

1449
01:03:38,160 --> 01:03:42,400
Speaker 4: Jake stops her and he goes over and he very

1450
01:03:43,280 --> 01:03:46,439
Speaker 4: sexily and gently kisses her and says, welcome home.

1451
01:03:47,000 --> 01:03:53,960
Speaker 1: Gently, But you had my reaction I was like, looked

1452
01:03:53,960 --> 01:03:58,360
Speaker 1: at your reaction the same thing. You're like, wow, amazing.

1453
01:03:58,920 --> 01:04:00,960
Speaker 4: And he kissed her just enough to have her go.

1454
01:04:02,240 --> 01:04:05,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, and she's still there waiting for more, and he's.

1455
01:04:05,720 --> 01:04:09,040
Speaker 4: Like and then so she sighs and she looks back and.

1456
01:04:09,120 --> 01:04:11,760
Speaker 3: She grabs the It's like I grabbed the railing.

1457
01:04:12,360 --> 01:04:16,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, steady yourself as you watch up the stairs and

1458
01:04:16,320 --> 01:04:19,360
Speaker 4: this great line welcome home. Yeah, and that's the end

1459
01:04:19,400 --> 01:04:23,600
Speaker 4: of our episode. Ever, episode was getting very exciting, very fun.

1460
01:04:23,800 --> 01:04:25,480
Speaker 3: Oh there's a great picture of you with a hair

1461
01:04:25,560 --> 01:04:28,640
Speaker 3: poof and the white collar that you yeah, my feather

1462
01:04:28,800 --> 01:04:33,360
Speaker 3: so yeah, I think that was our her eagle feathers

1463
01:04:33,400 --> 01:04:33,960
Speaker 3: that you. Yeah.

1464
01:04:34,200 --> 01:04:36,360
Speaker 4: I think that was the wackiest outfit of the episode.

1465
01:04:36,400 --> 01:04:38,440
Speaker 4: It's kind of all legal. Look, I thought this scrunchy

1466
01:04:38,480 --> 01:04:39,560
Speaker 4: up do you really added to it?

1467
01:04:39,600 --> 01:04:41,720
Speaker 2: I just feel like you're you see Sidney kind of

1468
01:04:41,760 --> 01:04:44,840
Speaker 2: like mini losing it, like she is about to climax

1469
01:04:44,920 --> 01:04:48,080
Speaker 2: and all of her craziness and evil doing in which

1470
01:04:48,120 --> 01:04:52,160
Speaker 2: she does. And then finally Jane kisses, you know, kicks

1471
01:04:52,160 --> 01:04:52,520
Speaker 2: her out.

1472
01:04:52,640 --> 01:04:53,200
Speaker 4: It's so funny.

1473
01:04:53,200 --> 01:04:55,280
Speaker 3: It's great little mini art because I know you come back.

1474
01:04:55,360 --> 01:04:57,440
Speaker 3: But it was like great in itself. It's kind of

1475
01:04:57,440 --> 01:04:59,919
Speaker 3: like wackitude, all crazy. I just see.

1476
01:05:00,040 --> 01:05:03,560
Speaker 4: I just think like the characters defined as like searching,

1477
01:05:03,640 --> 01:05:05,240
Speaker 4: like trying to find herself.

1478
01:05:04,960 --> 01:05:08,439
Speaker 3: Right, so these you justifying it? Oh, I I think

1479
01:05:08,440 --> 01:05:09,080
Speaker 3: it was there.

1480
01:05:09,160 --> 01:05:10,640
Speaker 4: I think she was like, I don't know who I am,

1481
01:05:10,640 --> 01:05:13,240
Speaker 4: I don't know what I want, and like her trying,

1482
01:05:13,280 --> 01:05:15,120
Speaker 4: you know, the trying on of the wardrobe and stuff

1483
01:05:15,240 --> 01:05:17,960
Speaker 4: is like that's I'm I'm willing to try this and

1484
01:05:18,000 --> 01:05:20,080
Speaker 4: I want to you know, and I maybe this is

1485
01:05:20,080 --> 01:05:22,120
Speaker 4: who I and I think, yeah, I just think that

1486
01:05:22,240 --> 01:05:25,560
Speaker 4: left so much room for the character to come back

1487
01:05:25,600 --> 01:05:27,480
Speaker 4: in like so much space.

1488
01:05:27,600 --> 01:05:30,800
Speaker 3: But that's what you're doing the whole time of year here.

1489
01:05:31,720 --> 01:05:34,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're you're you're trying on everything you're doing, you're

1490
01:05:34,520 --> 01:05:37,800
Speaker 2: seeing and all those all your storylines are like all

1491
01:05:37,800 --> 01:05:39,840
Speaker 2: over the place, out there doing this and doing that,

1492
01:05:39,920 --> 01:05:40,720
Speaker 2: and you know.

1493
01:05:40,920 --> 01:05:43,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, so I love that about the character. But we

1494
01:05:43,640 --> 01:05:45,880
Speaker 3: get to see a mini version who she's going to

1495
01:05:45,960 --> 01:05:46,760
Speaker 3: be in just.

1496
01:05:46,720 --> 01:05:48,240
Speaker 4: A flash, and then she's gone for the rest of

1497
01:05:48,240 --> 01:05:48,640
Speaker 4: the season.

1498
01:05:48,640 --> 01:05:49,200
Speaker 3: So that was it.

1499
01:05:49,400 --> 01:05:51,600
Speaker 1: I said, Mercet, I already miss you for the rest

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01:05:51,640 --> 01:05:54,000
Speaker 1: of the season. So luckily we get to see you.

1501
01:05:54,120 --> 01:05:56,400
Speaker 4: Luckily, we get to talk about other people. We can

1502
01:05:56,760 --> 01:05:58,200
Speaker 4: we can, we can talk about each other.

1503
01:05:58,240 --> 01:06:01,080
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, so this is always fun.

1504
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