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Speaker 1: Welcome to Money Making Conversations. It's the show that she

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Speaker 1: has the secrets of success experience firsthand by marketing and

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Speaker 1: Brandon expert Rashan McDonald. I will know he's giving me

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Speaker 1: advice on many occasions in indication didn't notice, I'm not broke.

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Speaker 1: You know. He'll be interview with celebrity CEOs, entrepreneurs and

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Speaker 1: industry decision makers. It's what he likes to do, it's

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Speaker 1: from my man, Rashan McDonald. Money Making Conversations. Here we go.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to Money Making Conversation Masterclass. As he stated, I

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Speaker 1: am your host, Rashan McDonald. I recognize that we all

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Speaker 1: have different definitions of success. For you and may be

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Speaker 1: the size of your paycheck. Mine is inspiring people to

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Speaker 1: accomplish their goals and live their very best life. It's

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Speaker 1: time to stop reading other people's success stories and start

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Speaker 1: writing your own. People always talking about their purpose or gift.

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Speaker 1: If you have a gift, leave with your gifts and

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Speaker 1: don't let your friends, family, or co workers stop you

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Speaker 1: from planning or living your dreams. My next guest, she's

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Speaker 1: the doctor of defeat. She is the person that I

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Speaker 1: should have found when I was sixteen. She should I

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Speaker 1: said that she should have commented my life. Dr Eylonda

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Speaker 1: Raglan She's one of the top Bunyan and Hambletow surgeons

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Speaker 1: in the Northeast with over twenty years of medical experience.

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Speaker 1: She maintains her office on Park Avenue in New York

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Speaker 1: City and the Washington metro area and Booie Miller. The

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Speaker 1: focus of her practice is Bunyan and hamblet To correction.

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Speaker 1: Her trade secret ti Era Toe t M, which is

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Speaker 1: a technique leads patients with sound a ready feet. We

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Speaker 1: know summer is coming. Ladies. You know men too with sandals,

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Speaker 1: you know, getting out there scaring us with your feet,

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Speaker 1: leaving no visible scarring after their surgical procedure. Dr Raglan's

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Speaker 1: goals is to help women be successful by supporting them

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Speaker 1: with strong foundation. Please welcome to Money Making Conversation Masterclass.

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Speaker 1: The incredible much needed Dr Elanda Raglan. How you doing,

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Speaker 1: Doctor Rashan, thank you so much for that glorious introduction.

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Speaker 1: How are you doing well? You know I would. I'll

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Speaker 1: be honest with you. Uh, I made mistakes with my feet,

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Speaker 1: Dr Raglan, And I know that's not the first time

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Speaker 1: you've heard this. You you went into a business where you,

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Speaker 1: like you said, you're the foundation of what you're doing.

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Speaker 1: Life is how you stand, how you walk, how you

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Speaker 1: present yourself when you walk into a room and a

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Speaker 1: lot of people are walking around with very painful feet,

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Speaker 1: Am I correct? Absolutely? Not only they're they're walking around

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Speaker 1: with painful, embarrassing looking feet. Um and uh. And so

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Speaker 1: what I found very early on in my studies was that, um,

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Speaker 1: especially African American women, they wanted to correct these problems,

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Speaker 1: but they didn't just want to get rid of the pain.

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Speaker 1: They wanted to feat to be beautiful too. So that

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Speaker 1: was my AHA moment, and I just decided that, no,

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Speaker 1: to focus on this core group of UH of African

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Speaker 1: hone my skills in correcting Buning's hammer toes getting rid

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Speaker 1: of those those unsightly corns. But I'm not going to

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Speaker 1: just get rid of him, and I'm not going to

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Speaker 1: just read you of the pain. I'm also going to

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Speaker 1: do it with an aesthetic result. This is a very

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Speaker 1: serious subject that we're talking about. I brought it on

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Speaker 1: to just talk about her career, but more importantly to

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Speaker 1: give an outlet because a lot of people, like I said, uh,

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Speaker 1: walking in pain and then walking in pain my father.

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Speaker 1: I always remember my father, uh you know, you know,

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Speaker 1: it was just just outrageously big. But he put his

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Speaker 1: was very uncomfortable. Correct, Yeah, but guess what rashan for men?

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Speaker 1: You guys, haven't you do have a little bit of

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Speaker 1: an option? I sold. I I sold shoes for many

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Speaker 1: years before I even thought about um becoming a docter

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Speaker 1: and so, and I sold men and women's shoes, so

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Speaker 1: men can get wider with even in your higher in shoes.

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Speaker 1: Women women, on the other hand, when you start getting

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Speaker 1: You absolutely are telling the truth. I wear a size

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Speaker 1: my shoes. Everybody those shoes shoes. Yeah, but did you

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Speaker 1: take it? Did you ever take your foot out of

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Speaker 1: the slipper? I'm telling doctor, I took it. Out and

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Speaker 1: being fed by people telling me it looked good, not

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Speaker 1: the pain and not not not the trouble. But I

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Speaker 1: Can you tell us how did you get in this business?

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Speaker 1: Because you know, we we we hear different professions. We

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Speaker 1: you go to school? Well? Um, well, first of all

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Speaker 1: you know, and I did that. I let my foot

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Speaker 1: stretch out. The shoe, you know, expanded, you know, as

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Speaker 1: I got older than I I have shoe horns, and

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Speaker 1: I put them in there, and that stretched them out,

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Speaker 1: and I would let them. You know, I used to

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Speaker 1: marinate in that shoe to get it right from my

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Speaker 1: foot so my foot won't be screaming. And so now

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Speaker 1: I live a comfortable life with my feet. But my

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Speaker 1: feet have paid the price. And what you're trying to

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Speaker 1: say to all the callers, who are all the people

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Speaker 1: who have listening to this show is that do not

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Speaker 1: get to rushan stage of life you know where, do not?

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00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:37,720
Speaker 1: You know, it's not worth it. It's not I have

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00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:41,520
Speaker 1: a life of regret. And the thing is, in this

441
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Speaker 1: day and age, we have the internet, so you can

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Speaker 1: literally scour the internet to find your size if needs so,

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Speaker 1: we didn't have that back in our day, Rashan, we

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00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:56,679
Speaker 1: didn't have that. Mom. Just to let you know, you

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Speaker 1: know where a certain brand of shoe and that's saw

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Speaker 1: this shoe the other day. I'm gonna just let you know.

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00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:07,560
Speaker 1: This almost drifted back into old Rashan, our size twelve

448
00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:11,359
Speaker 1: and it went it went up to size E level.

449
00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:14,959
Speaker 1: I went, oh, that shoe looks so good. But I

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00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:18,840
Speaker 1: always remember that. Okay, Rashan, you're too old and too

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Speaker 1: smart to get stupid again. And now, because I was

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00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:25,600
Speaker 1: almost about to fall into the old weald again, sizing

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Speaker 1: down on a big foot, sizing down on the big foot,

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Speaker 1: I want the listeners to all hear this too about

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Speaker 1: shoes sizes. Ladies, all you ladies out there that like

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00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:39,479
Speaker 1: there is telling your European sizes, and those shoes sales

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Speaker 1: people tell you a thirty nine is a nine. I'm

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Speaker 1: telling you right now, it's a lot. Thirty nine is

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Speaker 1: not a nine. A nine is a forty. Okay, it's

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Speaker 1: the next number up. Those people don't know what they're

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00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:57,960
Speaker 1: talking about. I sold shoes. I know what I'm talking about. Okay.

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00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:01,080
Speaker 1: I sold shoes. When we used to measure your foot

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Speaker 1: on the branding device, we sat down in stools and

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00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:06,639
Speaker 1: we put the shoes on your foot. Not these people

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Speaker 1: that come and throw the boxes that you are run away.

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Speaker 1: So I'm telling all of you when they come and

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Speaker 1: tell you what thirty eight is the eight, they are lions.

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Speaker 1: I just want a yes. They're also and in the

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Speaker 1: same goes for the men's shoes as well. So all

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Speaker 1: these people that are telling you don't buy the shoe

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Speaker 1: just because of the size, by what fits, what feels

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Speaker 1: right on your foot, don't get caught up in the number.

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00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:43,680
Speaker 1: It's just the number. Yeah, just some dr Young Raglan.

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Speaker 1: I I so appreciate you coming on my show. Allow

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Speaker 1: me to just you know, tell the truth about Rashawn

476
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Speaker 1: and his feet. His magical feet there that's so magical

477
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Speaker 1: when I take the socks off, they're rather terrifying. And

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Speaker 1: I say that because of the fact that I was stupid.

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00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:04,360
Speaker 1: I I ignored the pain. I wore shoes that were

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Speaker 1: smaller than what they should have been. Now I am

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00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:10,320
Speaker 1: happy with my life. I well quality issues that that

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00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:14,360
Speaker 1: allows me to gracefully walk the halls or gracefully drive

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Speaker 1: my car. But I didn't have to pay the price

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Speaker 1: if I would have just listened. That's all. And that's

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Speaker 1: why I invited you on the show. Dr Raglan was

486
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Speaker 1: to just let people know you are not You're not alone.

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Speaker 1: So yes, first of all, I just wanted I will

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Speaker 1: let people know everything. So first of all, I just

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Speaker 1: want everyone to know out there, I am actually a

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Speaker 1: the practice that strictly focuses on correcting buns and hammertoes

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Speaker 1: and removing corns with a cosmetic result. I am Dr

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Speaker 1: Landa Ragling. My business is pick your Feet, UM you

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Speaker 1: can find me. I'd like everybody to pull out their

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Speaker 1: phones right now. Follow me on Instagram, UM and Twitter,

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Speaker 1: UM and Facebook on fixture Feet. Also TikTok as well

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Speaker 1: with picture Feet and also go to my fixture Feet products.

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Speaker 1: go to that website. Send it out. We can we

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Speaker 1: can eradicate that. Dr Elonda Raglan, thank you for taking

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Speaker 1: the time to come on Money Making Conversation master Class.

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Speaker 1: You were brilliant as you are whenever I meet you.

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Speaker 1: Thank you. You're wonderful when you are a person of

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Speaker 1: breath of fresh air. Thank you for coming on Money

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Speaker 1: Making Conversation master Class. We'll be right back with more

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Speaker 1: money Making Conversations Masterclass with Rushan McDonald. You are now

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Speaker 1: tuned into the Money Making Conversations Minute of Inspiration with

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Speaker 1: Rushan McDonald. Hi Rashan McDonald for Money Made Conversation with

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Speaker 1: your daily minute of Inspiration. This week, got sat down

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Speaker 1: with television and field producer and Harvard graduate A Leah

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Speaker 1: Williams to discuss the project she is produced to her

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Speaker 1: production company, Just the Rubble A Little Shares about spreading

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Speaker 1: joy in her story about black people. Your smile. It's sunshine,

517
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Speaker 1: young ladies, Sunshine tell us about that. Thank you very much.

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Speaker 1: But I have to give all that credits to my mother.

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00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:20,320
Speaker 1: I think that she would say to me every day,

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Speaker 1: every morning, smile and the world will smile with you,

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Speaker 1: something that I've always carried with me. And you know,

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Speaker 1: there are definitely situations where it is hard to smile,

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Speaker 1: but I definitely try to bring that into all aspects

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Speaker 1: of my life and especially in the stories that I

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Speaker 1: want to tell for people. I think we deserve joy.

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Speaker 1: If you want to listen to this full interview with A.

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Speaker 1: Leah Williams is available on money Making Conversation dot com.

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Speaker 1: Now let's return to Money Making Conversations Masterclass with Rashan McDonald.

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Speaker 1: My guest today on Money Making Conversation Master Class is

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Speaker 1: Miguel Wilson. Is the founder and CEO that Miguel Wilson Collection.

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Speaker 1: It would teach formal. Weare designed business for men and

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Speaker 1: one of the only men's wear designers that specifically carries

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Speaker 1: a wedding collection for grooms and grooms men. For twenty years,

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Speaker 1: The Washington, d c Native design suits, sports coach trialsers,

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Speaker 1: shirts and accessories for men with a long client list

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Speaker 1: and include celebrities and other high profile people including Bishop T.

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Speaker 1: D Jake's pastor, Jamal Bryant, hollybod Hollywood producer Will Packer,

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Speaker 1: Rappers To Chain, and Walker Flocca, and We're Housewives of

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Speaker 1: Atlanta husbands Peter Thomas, Todd Tucker, and Michael Sterling, just

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Speaker 1: to name a few. He currently maintains four locations in Atlanta,

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Speaker 1: d C, Miami, and New York City. Are also traveling

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Speaker 1: around the world to accommodate his clients and providing his

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Speaker 1: services virtually. Thank god they're zoom please walking with the

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Speaker 1: money making conversations Masterclass, Miguel Wilson, How are you doing, sir? Well?

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Speaker 1: First of all, high fashion Okay, um, you know if

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Speaker 1: I've managed a guy who's a high fashion king, Steve

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Speaker 1: Harvey for sixteen years, um, and so that was that,

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Speaker 1: you know, his soup line and everything, and so he's

549
00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:11,920
Speaker 1: just wanted to be dressed the immaculate and Taylor made

550
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Speaker 1: clothes or part of his DNA. I've been blessed to

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Speaker 1: be able to say I've been able to afford tailor

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Speaker 1: made clothes in my lifetime. So that makes a difference.

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Speaker 1: So what you being in the tailor made business. What

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Speaker 1: is the difference from listening to my customers listeners, because

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Speaker 1: this is a live show, what is difference between buying

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Speaker 1: a tailor made suit and buying it off the rack

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Speaker 1: in a store, in a quality store. Well, you can

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Speaker 1: find quality. I sell quality suits in my stores every day. Okay,

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00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:47,400
Speaker 1: so you can buy quality. But it's something very special

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Speaker 1: about a gentleman being able to be a part of

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Speaker 1: the design and it's clothing. So to be able to

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Speaker 1: choose the lapel, choose the savaig, choose the lining pockets,

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Speaker 1: and then you know, even have your name inside of it.

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Speaker 1: I just think that's a it's it'sn't it's you know

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Speaker 1: what it is. The difference is one, it's more of

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Speaker 1: an experience. I think going through the process of having

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Speaker 1: a suit made is more of an experience. Um, there

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Speaker 1: are features in a custom made untiler made suit that

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Speaker 1: aren't generally available and off the rat So guys who

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Speaker 1: have these suits made can generally identify a suit that

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Speaker 1: was that was made based on these these qualities. So

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Speaker 1: if you see, for instance, like functional button holes on

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Speaker 1: the sleeves, things in the ship generally identifies as something

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Speaker 1: that was you know, had to be made. Absolutely. You

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Speaker 1: know when you when you when you talking about suits

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Speaker 1: and clothes, people when they hear the word Taylor made,

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00:34:56,520 --> 00:34:58,880
Speaker 1: they're just running out of fear. I can afford that.

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Speaker 1: I can't afford that. And and I tell people all

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Speaker 1: the time because we're talking about men and we're not

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Speaker 1: talking about women's fashion. And you know, I'm a I'm

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Speaker 1: a I'm a guy who watches old TV, watches Westerns,

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Speaker 1: and men fashions really don't change, you can correct me.

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Speaker 1: You know, they kind of stayed the same. It just

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Speaker 1: just gets updated a little bit. But you know, they

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00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:24,759
Speaker 1: were wearing button downs and the twenties and thirties and

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00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:27,680
Speaker 1: they were wearing two buttons and three button suit jackets

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Speaker 1: and the Western's Western Western era and all that stuff

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00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:33,799
Speaker 1: and pop up collars and all that stuff. So, so

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00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:37,879
Speaker 1: what what makes fashion fashionable for men? I guess that's

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Speaker 1: the question. Okay, So, so let's understand this fashion changes

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Speaker 1: a little bit every single day. It doesn't move fast,

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Speaker 1: but it's just like you took If you move one

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00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:56,240
Speaker 1: inch today, nobody really recognizes the inch, don't even realize

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Speaker 1: you moved any But in the course of a year

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Speaker 1: or two years. You know, you're down the street now

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Speaker 1: and so now we see you moved. Okay, So fashion

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00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:08,040
Speaker 1: is the same way and that you if you were

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Speaker 1: in fashion certain things today people will notice it as

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Speaker 1: something that's in now and and and it's and it's

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Speaker 1: not just the clothing. A lot of a lot of

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Speaker 1: fashion is around the where it's one. So it could

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Speaker 1: be the same things, but it's one differently. For instance,

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Speaker 1: you mentioned Steve Harvey. You know, everybody still to this

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Speaker 1: day kind of recognize when they see a baggy pair

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Speaker 1: of pants on they say, it's like Steve Harvey pants now,

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Speaker 1: although he doesn't wear those types of things today it's

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Speaker 1: just ingrained and pep with mind that that's the Steve

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Speaker 1: Harvey look for sale. Okay, so today you guys rid

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Speaker 1: the pants, more European cut, slimmer plee. You know, we

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Speaker 1: just do the deep pleas now we do no police.

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Speaker 1: So while there are some similarities, there's always these subtle

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Speaker 1: changes that that really separate something that's in style versus

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Speaker 1: something that was previously in style. Right when you and

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Speaker 1: I agree with that, I know that I know that

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Speaker 1: you know a lot of ministers from talking about Steve

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Speaker 1: harve in his fashion that a lot of it grew

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Speaker 1: out of the fact that he was hosting showtime at

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Speaker 1: the Apollo and uh and so ministers would wear his fashion.

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Speaker 1: It really caught on. It became very popular and uh

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Speaker 1: and like I said, that grew into the point that

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Speaker 1: you know, Macy started carrying his shoe line and other

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Speaker 1: people around the country start caring his shue line. Well

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Speaker 1: what let's let's go back up a little bit because

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Speaker 1: I jumped out real quick and ask you questioned by fashion,

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Speaker 1: Mr Wilson, how did you get started in this whole

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Speaker 1: game and in the early days before you became in

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Speaker 1: high profile and and people trusted you to be able

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Speaker 1: to deliver on these fashion based on the names that

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Speaker 1: I mentioned when I mentioned the Bishop T d J's,

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Speaker 1: you know Will Packer and then you jump over the

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Speaker 1: rappers to change, which is a totally different fashion look

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Speaker 1: and fashion style. But let's talk about how it all started,

633
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Speaker 1: because it's all about promise when you start, but then

634
00:38:01,120 --> 00:38:03,280
Speaker 1: you have to believe in yourself to make it happen.

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Speaker 1: Story sir, Well, you know I would say this that

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Speaker 1: one um, I've always had a passion for fashion. My

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Speaker 1: grandfather and my father both for lack of better word,

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Speaker 1: closed horses. Guys like to dress. They were closing and

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Speaker 1: to this day they both think they dressed better than me.

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Speaker 1: So and I make a living at it. But um so,

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00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:27,600
Speaker 1: you know, proximately in the nineties, I had a good

642
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Speaker 1: friend of mine who actually I was having ice at

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Speaker 1: my suits made and a friend of mine was in

644
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Speaker 1: the business. Uh he wanted to start his own companies

645
00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:37,760
Speaker 1: working for someone else and asked me to be a partner.

646
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Speaker 1: And I invested and worked in the business for seven

647
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Speaker 1: years and learned what I need to learn. And it's

648
00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:47,759
Speaker 1: just trying to just went from one level to the

649
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Speaker 1: one stage to the next, you know. So um the

650
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Speaker 1: greatest you know, the transition from you know, just starting

651
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Speaker 1: out or you know, getting the name out there and

652
00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:01,799
Speaker 1: then really catapult to the next level where you do

653
00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:04,320
Speaker 1: have the celebrities and people become more trusted names. You

654
00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:11,440
Speaker 1: will is a result of a lot of trial and error. Okay,

655
00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:13,680
Speaker 1: being in this business as long as I have, I've

656
00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:17,920
Speaker 1: made pretty much every mistake a person can make. The

657
00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:22,160
Speaker 1: thing is I didn't quit as results of mistakes. That's

658
00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:25,080
Speaker 1: the first thing. Second thing is I changed because of

659
00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:28,000
Speaker 1: those mistakes. One thing about me I tell my people today,

660
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Speaker 1: I'm fine with you are making mistakes, mistakes is going

661
00:39:31,719 --> 00:39:35,360
Speaker 1: to happen. What I don't like is the same mistakes

662
00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:38,040
Speaker 1: being repeated. So when we have a mistake, we have

663
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Speaker 1: to come up with solutions and ways to prevent it

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Speaker 1: from being a mistake tomorrow. So this, this has been

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Speaker 1: part of what I feel to be the trust that

666
00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:51,600
Speaker 1: people gaining me is the fact that I think over

667
00:39:51,640 --> 00:39:54,160
Speaker 1: a period of time we've been able to eliminate a

668
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Speaker 1: lot of the mistakes and create you know, a high

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Speaker 1: rate of quality service and quality products. We've lost some

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Speaker 1: great um now. I know Andre Leon Tally. I interviewed

671
00:40:08,600 --> 00:40:12,080
Speaker 1: him with Money Making Conversation Masterclass. I read his book

672
00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:15,479
Speaker 1: Inspiring and Virgil, we just lost him. When you see

673
00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:20,000
Speaker 1: talent like that leave your industry and then, uh, those

674
00:40:20,040 --> 00:40:22,719
Speaker 1: are those mentors to you, are those people you look

675
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Speaker 1: up to talk to us about that? Um. You know,

676
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Speaker 1: I take a little bit from everyone, and you know

677
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Speaker 1: I can. I learned from entrepreneurs and business so so

678
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Speaker 1: so as as a fashion as I am, I'm also

679
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Speaker 1: a businessman taken from you know, from the fashion standpoint.

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Speaker 1: You know, my inspirations come from a variety of places.

681
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Speaker 1: It can come from people that can't come from just art.

682
00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:51,200
Speaker 1: It can come from traveling. Um. But I think I

683
00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:53,400
Speaker 1: learned I learned a lot just talking to business people,

684
00:40:53,680 --> 00:41:00,240
Speaker 1: and you know, through those conversations, sharing stories, you know, details,

685
00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:03,319
Speaker 1: issues and problems and things how they handled it, I

686
00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:07,440
Speaker 1: think has been a great part of the process as well. So,

687
00:41:07,600 --> 00:41:12,160
Speaker 1: but you know, the thing I want to talk to

688
00:41:12,239 --> 00:41:14,920
Speaker 1: about is that you know that because you mentioned about

689
00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:18,560
Speaker 1: customer service is not making mistakes. Let's because you're dealing

690
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Speaker 1: with fashion and this is something that somebody puts on

691
00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:23,520
Speaker 1: it's gonna go out in public. And then you're dealing

692
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Speaker 1: with high profile failing. They may be on red carpets,

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Speaker 1: they may be on TVs, H entertainment tonight, maybe on

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Speaker 1: a uh different different layered or restaurant or an event.

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Speaker 1: And so your brand is not like something that doesn't

696
00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:40,680
Speaker 1: get recognized and can be put on the spot. It

697
00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:43,480
Speaker 1: can be means on social media, it can be it

698
00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:46,600
Speaker 1: can be uh it can be a blessing and also

699
00:41:46,640 --> 00:41:49,719
Speaker 1: a curse if it's done wrong. And so you know,

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Speaker 1: you know, you know what I'm saying it. So when

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Speaker 1: you when you're looking at fashion and individuals come into

702
00:41:55,239 --> 00:41:57,960
Speaker 1: you for your brand, you because they're seeking your advice.

703
00:41:58,000 --> 00:41:59,759
Speaker 1: I know I do. When I'm sitting down with someone

704
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Speaker 1: who's designing something from or I might pitch an idea.

705
00:42:03,040 --> 00:42:05,920
Speaker 1: They might go, uh, Shane, I don't think that's a

706
00:42:05,960 --> 00:42:08,840
Speaker 1: good idea. How do you work that through the process.

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00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:11,600
Speaker 1: I know you're a trusted leader in fashion, but you

708
00:42:11,680 --> 00:42:14,840
Speaker 1: also pitched ideas. How do you work their ideas of

709
00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:18,520
Speaker 1: a client into your fashion talents to deliver the clothes

710
00:42:18,680 --> 00:42:22,319
Speaker 1: that they want? That's a that's a great question. Um.

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00:42:22,360 --> 00:42:25,760
Speaker 1: You know, people come to me with ideas all the time,

712
00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:29,400
Speaker 1: and realistically, I have to be able to see it.

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00:42:30,040 --> 00:42:32,919
Speaker 1: And you know, people come with ideas that are kind

714
00:42:32,960 --> 00:42:37,239
Speaker 1: of way out there and yeah, but but I but

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Speaker 1: if I'm not feeling it like then I will tell them,

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Speaker 1: you know, this is I understand what you're trying to do.

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Speaker 1: I'm I just can't see I don't have a vision

718
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Speaker 1: for this what you're trying to do, or or I

719
00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:52,880
Speaker 1: see it, I just don't like it, right, Okay? And

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Speaker 1: I just I think being honest one of the biggest traits,

721
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Speaker 1: the greatest traits a business person, and have its integrity

722
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Speaker 1: and good character that when you say something, people know

723
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Speaker 1: you mean it. In this it's from the heart. So

724
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Speaker 1: I don't try to I don't say things to make

725
00:43:12,280 --> 00:43:14,359
Speaker 1: I don't say anything just to make somebody feel good.

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00:43:14,600 --> 00:43:17,239
Speaker 1: I don't tell people what they want to hear. I

727
00:43:17,360 --> 00:43:20,120
Speaker 1: tell them what I think and what I feel, and

728
00:43:20,320 --> 00:43:23,200
Speaker 1: that that comes with people give you a lot of

729
00:43:23,200 --> 00:43:27,040
Speaker 1: respect when they feel like you know, I can trust

730
00:43:27,120 --> 00:43:31,560
Speaker 1: his opinion. Not all about the dollar, is about the

731
00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:34,319
Speaker 1: honest relation, because you know, these people need to learn

732
00:43:34,400 --> 00:43:36,440
Speaker 1: just about fashion, and like when I would sit down

733
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Speaker 1: with a person like you, Miguel, first of all as

734
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Speaker 1: trust and also I was thinking advice to okay, you know,

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Speaker 1: I might be a person who might write to check.

736
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Speaker 1: But I'm also kind of a little bit stupid too, okay,

737
00:43:49,120 --> 00:43:52,600
Speaker 1: and so you have to educate me a little bit.

738
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Speaker 1: So I appreciate what you're saying. And people need to

739
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Speaker 1: hear him when he says that, because a lot of

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00:43:57,440 --> 00:44:01,120
Speaker 1: times people when they ask questions and ask advice, they

741
00:44:01,160 --> 00:44:03,200
Speaker 1: really want the truth. They want to know. Now it

742
00:44:03,320 --> 00:44:05,960
Speaker 1: might not be what they want to hear, Otherwise they

743
00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:07,920
Speaker 1: would never ask the question, So it means you need

744
00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:10,600
Speaker 1: to tell them something they need to hear to make

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Speaker 1: them have a balance of reality. So if something that

746
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Speaker 1: comes into your restaurant and they have an idea coming

747
00:44:16,600 --> 00:44:19,200
Speaker 1: to your pitching an idea to you, and in the

748
00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:21,840
Speaker 1: back of your mind, the average person walks over, I

749
00:44:21,880 --> 00:44:24,160
Speaker 1: ain't want to hurt their feeling. Okay, right, there's the mistake.

750
00:44:25,120 --> 00:44:27,480
Speaker 1: I don't want to hurt their feeling. You probably needed

751
00:44:27,520 --> 00:44:30,880
Speaker 1: to hurt that person's feeling. Then they won't be embarrassed.

752
00:44:30,920 --> 00:44:32,920
Speaker 1: They won't be opening the restaurant with no budget, with

753
00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:36,040
Speaker 1: no business plan because you didn't step up to the plate.

754
00:44:36,400 --> 00:44:38,600
Speaker 1: And I know because of you being a guy who's

755
00:44:39,000 --> 00:44:43,320
Speaker 1: a designer, it took. At what point did you realize

756
00:44:43,360 --> 00:44:46,960
Speaker 1: that this had to be part of the conversation to

757
00:44:47,040 --> 00:44:52,439
Speaker 1: be honest, that's that's a very good question. In two

758
00:44:52,520 --> 00:44:58,720
Speaker 1: thousand eleven, after bankruptcy and pretty much lost everything I owned,

759
00:44:59,000 --> 00:45:05,040
Speaker 1: had to start over branch, and as I evaluated the loss,

760
00:45:06,640 --> 00:45:09,000
Speaker 1: I realized that a lot of it was self inflicted

761
00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:13,080
Speaker 1: and I really had no one to blame but myself.

762
00:45:13,800 --> 00:45:16,279
Speaker 1: The economy and so forth was a part of it,

763
00:45:16,360 --> 00:45:20,000
Speaker 1: but I made some bad decisions and didn't really run

764
00:45:20,040 --> 00:45:27,040
Speaker 1: business right. So in rebuilding a new company. I knew

765
00:45:27,480 --> 00:45:30,600
Speaker 1: that I had just changed in certain ways, and one

766
00:45:30,600 --> 00:45:32,680
Speaker 1: of the ways was really, you know, just having a

767
00:45:32,680 --> 00:45:35,759
Speaker 1: good character about stuff and and not putting a dollar first.

768
00:45:35,920 --> 00:45:38,000
Speaker 1: And then let me give you example, I wouldn't intentionally

769
00:45:38,040 --> 00:45:40,520
Speaker 1: doing I think a lot of business don't intentionally lie,

770
00:45:40,680 --> 00:45:43,839
Speaker 1: intentionally mislead. But let me give an example. People will

771
00:45:43,880 --> 00:45:45,839
Speaker 1: come used to come to me and say, hey, can

772
00:45:45,880 --> 00:45:48,680
Speaker 1: you do this for me? Can you make this from me? Now,

773
00:45:48,760 --> 00:45:53,080
Speaker 1: without me really knowing I could execute against it. I

774
00:45:53,120 --> 00:45:57,200
Speaker 1: would say yes, and I'll just figure it and let

775
00:45:57,200 --> 00:46:00,160
Speaker 1: me figure it out. And I had every intention of

776
00:46:00,280 --> 00:46:04,640
Speaker 1: figuring it out and getting it right. But sometimes I failed,

777
00:46:04,640 --> 00:46:08,680
Speaker 1: and as a result, you not deliver on the promise

778
00:46:08,880 --> 00:46:13,440
Speaker 1: or the customers expectations. So too often we're getting these

779
00:46:13,480 --> 00:46:18,160
Speaker 1: desperate situations and business where we make deals and situations

780
00:46:18,200 --> 00:46:20,040
Speaker 1: to pay rent or to or to or to fix

781
00:46:20,120 --> 00:46:23,920
Speaker 1: us a serious problem we have financially. But at the

782
00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:27,880
Speaker 1: end of the day, we've messed up by our integrity

783
00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:30,080
Speaker 1: and messed by character and messed up the potential for

784
00:46:30,120 --> 00:46:32,960
Speaker 1: someone to refer to other people to do more business

785
00:46:33,040 --> 00:46:38,279
Speaker 1: with us. So through evaluating myself and those types of decisions,

786
00:46:38,520 --> 00:46:40,479
Speaker 1: I just made a decision that I'm making make any money.

787
00:46:40,520 --> 00:46:42,200
Speaker 1: I don't have any money at this point. I don't

788
00:46:42,239 --> 00:46:49,040
Speaker 1: have much, and so let me just operate, you know, uh,

789
00:46:49,120 --> 00:46:52,400
Speaker 1: in a way that I know I can deliver and

790
00:46:52,440 --> 00:46:55,279
Speaker 1: be good and great and great at what I do.

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00:46:55,400 --> 00:46:58,959
Speaker 1: We'll be right back with more Money Making Conversations Masterclass

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00:46:59,040 --> 00:47:05,120
Speaker 1: with ru Sean mcdone donald. Now, let's return to Money

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Speaker 1: Making Conversations Masterclass with Rashan McDonald. He was talking about mentoring,

794
00:47:10,440 --> 00:47:12,719
Speaker 1: which I which I which is a modern term in

795
00:47:12,760 --> 00:47:14,440
Speaker 1: the sense that I know when I was growing up,

796
00:47:14,480 --> 00:47:17,080
Speaker 1: I didn't have that word to my disposal. And the

797
00:47:17,120 --> 00:47:19,719
Speaker 1: and the millennials, they in gen Z they understand the

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00:47:19,840 --> 00:47:22,359
Speaker 1: value of mentoring. And I also want to be able

799
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Speaker 1: to say that that's the purpose of me creating this

800
00:47:24,680 --> 00:47:27,440
Speaker 1: show was to create lanes where people can come on

801
00:47:27,480 --> 00:47:30,600
Speaker 1: this show, either call on the show or or just

802
00:47:30,800 --> 00:47:34,080
Speaker 1: hear interviews. Through mentorship, maybe they won't make the mistakes.

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00:47:34,400 --> 00:47:40,279
Speaker 1: Talk about your mentorship, sir, for what you do in

804
00:47:40,320 --> 00:47:43,200
Speaker 1: this area as well. And you're right, millennials do understand

805
00:47:43,239 --> 00:47:47,879
Speaker 1: it better than you know previous generations. Um. You know,

806
00:47:47,880 --> 00:47:51,640
Speaker 1: knowledge is power, and you know sometimes you can learn

807
00:47:51,680 --> 00:47:54,319
Speaker 1: the hard way. You can learn from others. I'm the

808
00:47:54,360 --> 00:47:57,200
Speaker 1: hard way. I'm the hard way, Michael, I'm the hard way.

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00:47:57,640 --> 00:47:59,200
Speaker 1: But you know, so as a result, I have you know,

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00:47:59,440 --> 00:48:02,640
Speaker 1: many um I do fashion shows and things, have a

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00:48:02,640 --> 00:48:07,759
Speaker 1: lot of designers that participate that you can look at

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00:48:07,760 --> 00:48:10,040
Speaker 1: me as as a mentor and call on me for

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00:48:10,120 --> 00:48:12,600
Speaker 1: advice and questions stuff. One of the things, you know,

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00:48:12,640 --> 00:48:17,760
Speaker 1: I think a common mistake is that designers or people

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00:48:17,760 --> 00:48:20,879
Speaker 1: who intend to be designers and want to start a

816
00:48:20,920 --> 00:48:25,680
Speaker 1: line or whatever, set it up based on just their

817
00:48:25,719 --> 00:48:32,560
Speaker 1: own personal likes and dislikes and not with the customery mind.

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00:48:33,400 --> 00:48:36,359
Speaker 1: So I think that you need to if you're if

819
00:48:36,400 --> 00:48:39,120
Speaker 1: you're in fashion, if you want to stand out in fashion,

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00:48:39,160 --> 00:48:43,480
Speaker 1: because there are millions of brands out there now, right,

821
00:48:43,520 --> 00:48:46,160
Speaker 1: So how do you how do you segment yourself or

822
00:48:46,200 --> 00:48:49,200
Speaker 1: separate yourself from everything else is there? You have to

823
00:48:50,239 --> 00:48:54,120
Speaker 1: do something or have a particular purpose or client or

824
00:48:54,120 --> 00:48:57,600
Speaker 1: a niche that you're focused on to really do that.

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00:48:58,120 --> 00:49:01,839
Speaker 1: So back talked to you. But when I filed bankruptcy

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Speaker 1: and started had started over, one of the other things

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Speaker 1: that then was identified a space in fashion that was

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Speaker 1: unoccupied and that was serving grooms. So when I started

829
00:49:15,719 --> 00:49:20,960
Speaker 1: that process, nobody was really doing it. Men's warehouse rental tuxedos,

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00:49:21,000 --> 00:49:26,200
Speaker 1: But nobody's really catering to men having not only great clothes,

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Speaker 1: but a phenomenal experience. You know, women when they get engaged,

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00:49:30,760 --> 00:49:35,160
Speaker 1: their girlfriends yet bridle shop, they sit in Champagne. It

833
00:49:35,400 --> 00:49:40,200
Speaker 1: is a party, right so, right, so so, and then

834
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Speaker 1: they show up at the you know, they feel phenomenal

835
00:49:43,640 --> 00:49:46,520
Speaker 1: to their wedding day because they know that they that

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Speaker 1: they're wearing the most beautiful gown they've ever created for themselves.

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00:49:51,080 --> 00:49:55,920
Speaker 1: So men deserve the same thing, particularly in this day

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Speaker 1: and age when so many of us are paying for

839
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Speaker 1: the weddings. I've own pocket too. Unlike previously the fathers

840
00:50:04,360 --> 00:50:06,600
Speaker 1: used to help out and so forth. You know, in

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00:50:06,800 --> 00:50:08,319
Speaker 1: the case today, so a lot of us are paying

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00:50:08,360 --> 00:50:12,480
Speaker 1: for it, and and truthfully it's probably the biggest party

843
00:50:13,280 --> 00:50:18,000
Speaker 1: that most of us will throw their weight. So the

844
00:50:18,080 --> 00:50:22,080
Speaker 1: man deserves, the groom deserves to look great, feel great,

845
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Speaker 1: and you know, not be short changed after the you know,

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Speaker 1: you know, you know, the fun part about that is

847
00:50:30,840 --> 00:50:34,800
Speaker 1: that it almost like it's about time, you know, because

848
00:50:34,880 --> 00:50:38,400
Speaker 1: that is true, is that the experience of going in

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Speaker 1: getting that perfect gown. You know how many how many

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Speaker 1: tuxis as I've rented, and it's just been uh he

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Speaker 1: told me to come get that color in the corner,

852
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Speaker 1: and I get it and get some ugly shoes and

853
00:50:49,880 --> 00:50:53,320
Speaker 1: I go, okay, And that's really that's the experience. I remember.

854
00:50:53,320 --> 00:50:55,120
Speaker 1: I'm just telling you the truth. I've I've done this

855
00:50:55,200 --> 00:50:58,960
Speaker 1: several times, so it's always a hard pair uh pad

856
00:50:59,120 --> 00:51:03,400
Speaker 1: leather shoes and uh fitting up a tux so that

857
00:51:03,560 --> 00:51:05,720
Speaker 1: that somebody else has worn maybe four or five hundred

858
00:51:05,760 --> 00:51:09,200
Speaker 1: times before I put it on. So what what I've

859
00:51:09,280 --> 00:51:12,960
Speaker 1: done is looked at the total wedding experience for a

860
00:51:13,040 --> 00:51:17,680
Speaker 1: man and recreated it. Okay, So it starts it's thank you,

861
00:51:17,800 --> 00:51:20,160
Speaker 1: thank you. It starts off with the clothes, of course,

862
00:51:20,200 --> 00:51:22,320
Speaker 1: but at the end of the day too, they got groomsmen,

863
00:51:22,960 --> 00:51:25,759
Speaker 1: and I want them to come in from the moment

864
00:51:25,800 --> 00:51:28,640
Speaker 1: you coming into our just want our showrooms. I want

865
00:51:28,680 --> 00:51:31,680
Speaker 1: them to steal special like we are celebrating. You were

866
00:51:31,719 --> 00:51:34,319
Speaker 1: celebrating this occasion. It's not just about the wedding day.

867
00:51:34,640 --> 00:51:37,080
Speaker 1: It's about the process, and I want you to enjoy

868
00:51:37,200 --> 00:51:40,880
Speaker 1: the journey along the way going to it. So we

869
00:51:41,000 --> 00:51:43,279
Speaker 1: do a thing called grooms Lounge where we invite the

870
00:51:43,360 --> 00:51:47,320
Speaker 1: groom to bring all the groomsmen in. We have champagne

871
00:51:47,400 --> 00:51:51,480
Speaker 1: and cocktails and we do all the fittings and then

872
00:51:51,560 --> 00:51:55,760
Speaker 1: we ended with our groast and toast of the groom.

873
00:51:56,960 --> 00:51:59,680
Speaker 1: And I'll tell you this is probably one of the

874
00:51:59,760 --> 00:52:05,320
Speaker 1: most phenomenal things that I have come up with, because

875
00:52:07,320 --> 00:52:10,040
Speaker 1: every week when these guys coming near, and I don't

876
00:52:10,040 --> 00:52:11,920
Speaker 1: care where they're from around the country, but they get

877
00:52:12,000 --> 00:52:15,080
Speaker 1: together and they're roasting and toasting. One guy is grown

878
00:52:15,239 --> 00:52:20,239
Speaker 1: their friends, their brother and hear these brothers tell this

879
00:52:20,440 --> 00:52:24,200
Speaker 1: man how proud they are of him, how much they

880
00:52:24,280 --> 00:52:28,160
Speaker 1: love him, how much they support them. It's something that

881
00:52:28,280 --> 00:52:32,880
Speaker 1: we don't see in America much often. You know, people

882
00:52:33,120 --> 00:52:36,399
Speaker 1: tend to think that, you know, we kill each other,

883
00:52:36,960 --> 00:52:38,879
Speaker 1: we do this, we do that. But one thing about

884
00:52:38,960 --> 00:52:43,239
Speaker 1: that roasting toast in my stores every week, you see

885
00:52:43,719 --> 00:52:48,879
Speaker 1: that brothers black men in particular, I love each other,

886
00:52:49,960 --> 00:52:53,040
Speaker 1: that we support each other, that we have good fathers,

887
00:52:54,560 --> 00:52:58,239
Speaker 1: good brothers, but also we love our women. Mm hmm.

888
00:52:58,719 --> 00:53:04,400
Speaker 1: No know, it's it's society or or the media or

889
00:53:04,480 --> 00:53:06,800
Speaker 1: to tell a story, it will be nothing like the

890
00:53:06,920 --> 00:53:10,520
Speaker 1: reality that we experienced every single week in our stories.

891
00:53:11,480 --> 00:53:15,960
Speaker 1: So it is amazing and um. But the thing is

892
00:53:17,400 --> 00:53:22,799
Speaker 1: the groom and the groomsmen walk away feeling like they've

893
00:53:22,920 --> 00:53:26,920
Speaker 1: just experienced something that was much needed and and just

894
00:53:27,400 --> 00:53:29,640
Speaker 1: doesn't happen. Because how often do we just tell each other,

895
00:53:30,280 --> 00:53:32,480
Speaker 1: even though we might talk frequently, whatever, how long can

896
00:53:32,560 --> 00:53:34,279
Speaker 1: we tell each other? Man, I love you and I'm

897
00:53:34,280 --> 00:53:36,320
Speaker 1: proud of you. Bro, you're doing the great thing that

898
00:53:36,520 --> 00:53:38,000
Speaker 1: you need some help whatever, you know what I mean.

899
00:53:38,080 --> 00:53:41,399
Speaker 1: So this is this is a great time that will

900
00:53:41,400 --> 00:53:45,919
Speaker 1: be remember every guy that goes through this, this would

901
00:53:45,920 --> 00:53:47,799
Speaker 1: be one of the highlights of what you know. I'm

902
00:53:47,840 --> 00:53:51,880
Speaker 1: getting I'm engaged, I'm getting married and may myself and

903
00:53:52,000 --> 00:53:53,839
Speaker 1: I'm telling you a lot of the stuff that I've

904
00:53:53,880 --> 00:53:56,799
Speaker 1: created for my grooms are the very things I want

905
00:53:56,880 --> 00:54:00,360
Speaker 1: for myself. I'm gonna do a broom's lounge. There you go,

906
00:54:00,600 --> 00:54:02,480
Speaker 1: there you go, I'm gonna do ropes and talks. I'm

907
00:54:02,480 --> 00:54:04,640
Speaker 1: gonna have all these same things for myself and dropping

908
00:54:04,680 --> 00:54:08,120
Speaker 1: on social media because if we all need to see it, Miguel,

909
00:54:09,520 --> 00:54:11,759
Speaker 1: I'll tell you something. Man, You're you're inspired me. Man,

910
00:54:11,880 --> 00:54:14,360
Speaker 1: Like I said, I really appreciate you coming on the

911
00:54:14,440 --> 00:54:16,600
Speaker 1: show in fact that can you be a regular? Can

912
00:54:16,640 --> 00:54:18,160
Speaker 1: you come back when you're about to do can you

913
00:54:18,239 --> 00:54:20,800
Speaker 1: come back and make and mate? Because I want to

914
00:54:20,840 --> 00:54:23,480
Speaker 1: talk about the polo team at at More House and

915
00:54:23,520 --> 00:54:25,799
Speaker 1: all that good stuff. But what my big takeaway from

916
00:54:25,840 --> 00:54:28,360
Speaker 1: you is that man, that's a love man. And what

917
00:54:28,560 --> 00:54:30,960
Speaker 1: you're doing there's a passion and the desire to be

918
00:54:31,120 --> 00:54:34,399
Speaker 1: the best, but not the best, because that's what people

919
00:54:34,480 --> 00:54:39,120
Speaker 1: compete for. It's about it's about breaking stereotypes, about being

920
00:54:39,280 --> 00:54:41,680
Speaker 1: uh living the lane of black excellence, and you're doing

921
00:54:41,760 --> 00:54:44,560
Speaker 1: it in the lane of fashion. I'm talking to Miguel Wilson.

922
00:54:44,640 --> 00:54:50,520
Speaker 1: Collections for locations support the whole principle of black excellence.

923
00:54:50,560 --> 00:54:54,080
Speaker 1: And I appreciate you coming on Money madd conversations. One

924
00:54:54,120 --> 00:54:58,280
Speaker 1: thing you know every week, I mean Splause in Atlanta,

925
00:54:58,760 --> 00:55:01,279
Speaker 1: and these guys, these brothers to walk by a good sheet,

926
00:55:01,320 --> 00:55:03,080
Speaker 1: have to walk by Rason. She had to walk by

927
00:55:03,160 --> 00:55:07,000
Speaker 1: Tom Ford in all these places to get to my store. Okay,

928
00:55:07,200 --> 00:55:08,560
Speaker 1: And the one thing I want them to do when

929
00:55:08,640 --> 00:55:10,359
Speaker 1: you make their work, I want to make it worth while.

930
00:55:10,400 --> 00:55:12,680
Speaker 1: And one thing we do is make each and everyone

931
00:55:12,760 --> 00:55:15,480
Speaker 1: on them feel a love that you feel it's the

932
00:55:15,560 --> 00:55:18,880
Speaker 1: place that you are honored and treat it well and

933
00:55:19,000 --> 00:55:23,360
Speaker 1: feel great. Thank you. I thank you, Miguel Wilson. I

934
00:55:23,400 --> 00:55:28,160
Speaker 1: appreciate you. Brother. We're gonna talk soon. May you get married? Righty? Right? Yeah? Okay, cool,

935
00:55:28,280 --> 00:55:29,799
Speaker 1: I get on after that show. After I get married,

936
00:55:29,840 --> 00:55:34,320
Speaker 1: we come on back on. Thank you. You've been listening

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947
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948
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Speaker 1: really firm believer in how you feel on the inside

949
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Speaker 1: will come out on the outside. A lot of water

950
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Speaker 1: is what they really make you drink, get you stay hydrated,

951
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Speaker 1: your skin's gonna look good. But being happy on the inside, um,

952
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Speaker 1: I think it comes out because people are always like,

953
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Speaker 1: You're always so happy. I really try to maintain that

954
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Speaker 1: because I like to be an inspiration to so many people,

955
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Speaker 1: so I think that's what And when I look good

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Speaker 1: and feel good, then I'm even happier. If you want

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