1 00:00:01,160 --> 00:00:09,959 Speaker 1: Podcast play down. Hi, this is bluds Night, the host 2 00:00:09,960 --> 00:00:12,960 Speaker 1: of the Take on a Walk podcast series today in 3 00:00:13,039 --> 00:00:15,920 Speaker 1: New York City. Astor Place is the area I'm in, 4 00:00:16,239 --> 00:00:18,480 Speaker 1: and I'm here to take a walk with composer Robert 5 00:00:18,560 --> 00:00:23,360 Speaker 1: to Terris, whose new film The Walk has recently been released. Now, 6 00:00:23,360 --> 00:00:26,480 Speaker 1: with the benefit of my podcast hosting platform, pod Beam, 7 00:00:26,840 --> 00:00:29,720 Speaker 1: we're gonna walk with Robert. Virtually. He'll be in La 8 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:33,200 Speaker 1: I'll be here in Astor Place. Sometimes you just can't 9 00:00:33,200 --> 00:00:35,519 Speaker 1: be together, but you want to make it happen. So 10 00:00:35,600 --> 00:00:39,200 Speaker 1: this is our first attempt using this technology. So let's 11 00:00:39,200 --> 00:00:43,480 Speaker 1: take a walk with Robert to Terras. Taking a walk, 12 00:00:43,640 --> 00:00:48,239 Speaker 1: Buds Night. I'm in New York City right now and 13 00:00:48,400 --> 00:00:53,840 Speaker 1: the Astor Place area of New York kind of near uh, 14 00:00:54,200 --> 00:00:58,760 Speaker 1: near the West Village, and I'm really pleased right now 15 00:00:58,760 --> 00:01:03,440 Speaker 1: to be talking to Robert to Terras, who is a 16 00:01:03,880 --> 00:01:08,920 Speaker 1: composer of the new movie called The Walk, starring a 17 00:01:08,959 --> 00:01:14,840 Speaker 1: great ensemble cast including Terrence Howard and Justin Chatwin. Robert, 18 00:01:15,000 --> 00:01:18,720 Speaker 1: are you there right now? I am here, And where 19 00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:24,240 Speaker 1: are you physically? Maybe taking a walk? I am physically 20 00:01:24,480 --> 00:01:29,080 Speaker 1: in my yard right now. Describe describe the scene I 21 00:01:29,120 --> 00:01:32,640 Speaker 1: wanted to hear the scene and you're Roberts Yard. Okay. 22 00:01:32,760 --> 00:01:37,120 Speaker 1: So right now, I have a house in l a 23 00:01:37,440 --> 00:01:41,400 Speaker 1: And uh, I have a fairly decent side yard. My 24 00:01:41,800 --> 00:01:47,480 Speaker 1: dog loves it, and across the yard is my studio, 25 00:01:47,920 --> 00:01:50,160 Speaker 1: and so I can step out the doors of my 26 00:01:50,200 --> 00:01:52,840 Speaker 1: studio and just be in the yard and chill out 27 00:01:52,960 --> 00:01:57,920 Speaker 1: in the chair. And uh, my girls are playing volleyball 28 00:01:58,040 --> 00:02:02,480 Speaker 1: the volleyball net. Not right now, but they usually are. 29 00:02:02,680 --> 00:02:07,440 Speaker 1: And there's a bunch of frisbees that my dog choose 30 00:02:07,560 --> 00:02:11,120 Speaker 1: up even when we're not throwing them to her. And 31 00:02:11,160 --> 00:02:13,960 Speaker 1: a nice big porch where we can all sit and 32 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:17,280 Speaker 1: have dinner or have coffee in the morning, which is 33 00:02:17,880 --> 00:02:20,959 Speaker 1: how I start every day, with dog running in the 34 00:02:21,040 --> 00:02:24,200 Speaker 1: yard chasing squarrels, and me having your hubble coffee. I 35 00:02:24,280 --> 00:02:28,760 Speaker 1: love it. I love it so morning ritual. It sounds 36 00:02:28,760 --> 00:02:32,760 Speaker 1: like a good life. It's it's it's not bad. It's 37 00:02:32,800 --> 00:02:35,519 Speaker 1: not it's definitely not bad. Although I had say, I 38 00:02:36,040 --> 00:02:38,520 Speaker 1: used to live in New York, so I missed that 39 00:02:38,600 --> 00:02:41,880 Speaker 1: walk quite a bit. So the scene here, Yeah, I'm 40 00:02:42,080 --> 00:02:46,480 Speaker 1: like I said, ask her place. Uh, And there's a 41 00:02:46,480 --> 00:02:49,440 Speaker 1: bunch of folks just sort of hanging around that area there. 42 00:02:49,440 --> 00:02:51,960 Speaker 1: I don't know if you know that area. Oh yeah, yeah, 43 00:02:52,120 --> 00:02:54,880 Speaker 1: and uh, there's a number of pigeons here as well. 44 00:02:54,919 --> 00:03:01,440 Speaker 1: I know that's shocking to you. Yes, I remember them. Well. Yeah, 45 00:03:01,480 --> 00:03:04,919 Speaker 1: but you're the first person who took a walk here 46 00:03:05,680 --> 00:03:09,680 Speaker 1: with some new technology. So I appreciate you taking the 47 00:03:09,760 --> 00:03:14,120 Speaker 1: leap normally, I like doing it in person. And I 48 00:03:14,160 --> 00:03:17,320 Speaker 1: heard about the walk and the fact that I've got 49 00:03:17,360 --> 00:03:20,400 Speaker 1: something called taking a Walk. It was too perfect of 50 00:03:20,440 --> 00:03:25,040 Speaker 1: an opportunity to pass up. But also, I mean, I've 51 00:03:25,040 --> 00:03:29,400 Speaker 1: had some musicians on the Taking a Walk podcast, but 52 00:03:29,440 --> 00:03:32,440 Speaker 1: I've never had a composer. So I'm honored you to 53 00:03:32,480 --> 00:03:37,320 Speaker 1: be the first composer on Taking a Walk. So you know, 54 00:03:37,400 --> 00:03:41,240 Speaker 1: we're we're giving it a stab, I you know, to 55 00:03:41,280 --> 00:03:44,000 Speaker 1: some degree based on the storyline which we want to 56 00:03:44,040 --> 00:03:47,040 Speaker 1: talk about. I wish I was in Boston. I have 57 00:03:47,200 --> 00:03:53,040 Speaker 1: been through that area where the walk is essentially you know, 58 00:03:53,200 --> 00:03:57,200 Speaker 1: focused and set. I know, I know the movie actually 59 00:03:57,480 --> 00:04:00,360 Speaker 1: you know the way movies or filmed was done in 60 00:04:00,560 --> 00:04:04,600 Speaker 1: New Orleans, but it looks just like South Boston. Yes, 61 00:04:04,960 --> 00:04:08,040 Speaker 1: have you visited South Boston yourself? I have not been 62 00:04:08,080 --> 00:04:13,480 Speaker 1: to South Boston. You know it's funny. I'm too young 63 00:04:13,520 --> 00:04:17,400 Speaker 1: to remember the events of the that take place in 64 00:04:17,440 --> 00:04:21,359 Speaker 1: the walk, But and I love Boston. I spent a 65 00:04:21,360 --> 00:04:23,359 Speaker 1: lot of time in Boston when I was a singer 66 00:04:23,400 --> 00:04:27,560 Speaker 1: songwriter in the early two thousands playing in Boston. Used 67 00:04:27,560 --> 00:04:33,279 Speaker 1: to play Club Passim in Cambridge, and I used to 68 00:04:33,279 --> 00:04:35,960 Speaker 1: play a lot at different bars in Boston as a 69 00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:39,800 Speaker 1: singer songwriter. But I've never been to South Boston, and 70 00:04:40,880 --> 00:04:46,560 Speaker 1: I always had the impression. I always I think through osmosis, 71 00:04:46,560 --> 00:04:50,160 Speaker 1: things trickle down, and South Boston always felt like a 72 00:04:50,200 --> 00:04:52,920 Speaker 1: place to me that well, I I'm not sure if 73 00:04:52,960 --> 00:04:55,120 Speaker 1: I want to go, like if it's going to be 74 00:04:55,320 --> 00:04:58,920 Speaker 1: like my kind of place. Obviously things have changed since then, 75 00:04:59,400 --> 00:05:05,039 Speaker 1: but you know, it's a very My experience with Boston, 76 00:05:05,040 --> 00:05:11,240 Speaker 1: which has been fantastic, has been basically as a musician, 77 00:05:11,440 --> 00:05:15,279 Speaker 1: which you know, has been welcoming and wonderful. And it's 78 00:05:15,279 --> 00:05:20,800 Speaker 1: been gosh, it's been like eighteen years since I've been there. 79 00:05:20,839 --> 00:05:25,920 Speaker 1: But it's a great town, it is, and Pastime is 80 00:05:25,960 --> 00:05:31,000 Speaker 1: a great spot, that's a legendary spot. And yet this 81 00:05:31,160 --> 00:05:36,320 Speaker 1: story needs to be told. It's not so many years ago, 82 00:05:36,640 --> 00:05:42,440 Speaker 1: obviously that this occurred. And even though Boston has gone 83 00:05:42,480 --> 00:05:47,240 Speaker 1: through its various shifts and turns. Like every big city, 84 00:05:48,440 --> 00:05:53,200 Speaker 1: the story is so important that it needs to be told, right, 85 00:05:53,400 --> 00:05:57,039 Speaker 1: I mean, that's absolutely true. And you know, the great 86 00:05:57,080 --> 00:06:01,359 Speaker 1: thing about the Walk is that it's a worry about people. 87 00:06:01,600 --> 00:06:07,680 Speaker 1: It's a small story. You know, the thing about South 88 00:06:07,760 --> 00:06:12,760 Speaker 1: Ea or Roxbury. They're neighborhoods and in those neighborhoods are 89 00:06:12,760 --> 00:06:18,880 Speaker 1: people and it's and it's can be quite provincial, for 90 00:06:18,960 --> 00:06:22,200 Speaker 1: good and for bad. And so that's really what the 91 00:06:22,240 --> 00:06:27,279 Speaker 1: story is. You know, that's where it's not about. You know, obviously, 92 00:06:27,320 --> 00:06:30,880 Speaker 1: big sweeping things happen and we're going on, but this 93 00:06:31,040 --> 00:06:34,440 Speaker 1: is about people and sort of that's how those big 94 00:06:34,520 --> 00:06:40,080 Speaker 1: sweeping things happen through the sort of small provincial places 95 00:06:40,120 --> 00:06:44,480 Speaker 1: that we go and one person makes a change. How 96 00:06:44,480 --> 00:06:46,720 Speaker 1: do you bring it to around what we're dealing with 97 00:06:46,800 --> 00:06:51,159 Speaker 1: today in the world as well, because obviously there's elements 98 00:06:51,200 --> 00:06:55,600 Speaker 1: of history that always feed the present. It is so 99 00:06:55,960 --> 00:07:02,440 Speaker 1: incredibly relevant to what's happening today. You know. I think 100 00:07:02,680 --> 00:07:06,680 Speaker 1: the first thing we had the movie premiere on last Thursday, 101 00:07:07,160 --> 00:07:10,400 Speaker 1: and something someone brought up, which is, who was a 102 00:07:11,320 --> 00:07:17,000 Speaker 1: guy in the audience during the Q and a basically said, 103 00:07:17,280 --> 00:07:19,880 Speaker 1: you know, I've had trouble as a teacher because they 104 00:07:19,920 --> 00:07:22,720 Speaker 1: won't allow me to teach certain things. And I think 105 00:07:22,960 --> 00:07:25,480 Speaker 1: just the existence of the Walk, like in terms of 106 00:07:25,600 --> 00:07:31,000 Speaker 1: what we talk about today, is important because there are 107 00:07:31,160 --> 00:07:35,840 Speaker 1: forces that are interested in stopping teaching history like this 108 00:07:36,520 --> 00:07:40,120 Speaker 1: and painting a picture, you know, painting a picture of 109 00:07:40,160 --> 00:07:44,680 Speaker 1: everything as always been free and hunky dory and all 110 00:07:44,720 --> 00:07:47,280 Speaker 1: those things. And really the truth is that if you 111 00:07:47,360 --> 00:07:51,480 Speaker 1: teach this stuff, we get freer. We become more free 112 00:07:52,320 --> 00:07:57,480 Speaker 1: by teaching about the problems we've happened. But so I 113 00:07:57,480 --> 00:08:02,080 Speaker 1: think that is incredibly relevant today. It's important to teach 114 00:08:02,160 --> 00:08:05,440 Speaker 1: history so we don't repeat it, and history informs us 115 00:08:05,520 --> 00:08:10,000 Speaker 1: about what we're going to do next, and so you know, 116 00:08:10,240 --> 00:08:15,400 Speaker 1: it's it's an incredibly relevant story for right now. So 117 00:08:15,520 --> 00:08:18,280 Speaker 1: how do you when you're approached on a project such 118 00:08:18,280 --> 00:08:22,480 Speaker 1: as the Walk? So how does your process work as 119 00:08:22,480 --> 00:08:26,680 Speaker 1: a composer to do your work that you do so 120 00:08:26,760 --> 00:08:31,920 Speaker 1: beautifully great? You know, every project's different is going to 121 00:08:31,920 --> 00:08:36,040 Speaker 1: be different, right and so like sometimes you just start 122 00:08:36,040 --> 00:08:39,160 Speaker 1: writing from beginning to end and sometimes and the way 123 00:08:39,280 --> 00:08:43,360 Speaker 1: I always prefer to do things is to sit with it. 124 00:08:43,400 --> 00:08:46,040 Speaker 1: For a minute and think about what the approach is 125 00:08:46,080 --> 00:08:48,679 Speaker 1: going to be. I'll watch it three or four times, 126 00:08:49,160 --> 00:08:55,120 Speaker 1: really get to know it and and just start digging 127 00:08:55,160 --> 00:08:58,520 Speaker 1: into like, you know, start formulating ideas, but then to 128 00:08:58,559 --> 00:09:01,720 Speaker 1: step back from them for a minute and take a walk. Seriously, 129 00:09:02,400 --> 00:09:06,160 Speaker 1: I do that a lot, where I'll start messing with 130 00:09:06,240 --> 00:09:09,920 Speaker 1: something and formulating ideas and putting things together sketches, if 131 00:09:09,960 --> 00:09:13,920 Speaker 1: you will, and then I need to. You get a 132 00:09:13,960 --> 00:09:16,319 Speaker 1: certain kind of fatigue, right, You get ear fatigue, you 133 00:09:16,400 --> 00:09:20,160 Speaker 1: get fatigue from just working in general. So I step out, 134 00:09:20,200 --> 00:09:23,160 Speaker 1: I take a little walk in my neighborhood, go walk 135 00:09:23,200 --> 00:09:26,480 Speaker 1: and get some sushi or whatever, and you know, and 136 00:09:26,640 --> 00:09:31,280 Speaker 1: come back and then keep working. And I always prefer 137 00:09:31,360 --> 00:09:33,840 Speaker 1: to work that way, even if I'm in a rush. 138 00:09:34,280 --> 00:09:37,280 Speaker 1: I'll take those little moments and have that thinking time, 139 00:09:37,360 --> 00:09:42,120 Speaker 1: that walk time that you know. I'll go and I've 140 00:09:42,120 --> 00:09:47,680 Speaker 1: been doing virtual reality boxing lately. It's exercise, so I'll 141 00:09:47,720 --> 00:09:50,200 Speaker 1: go do that for a minute or you know something, 142 00:09:50,400 --> 00:09:53,559 Speaker 1: And actually when I come back, it's so incredibly fresh 143 00:09:54,280 --> 00:09:58,600 Speaker 1: that it really creates a momentum. Funny how taking a 144 00:09:58,640 --> 00:10:02,200 Speaker 1: break can create a momentum in that life. I'm so 145 00:10:02,280 --> 00:10:07,080 Speaker 1: glad that you brought up how you use taking a walk, 146 00:10:07,640 --> 00:10:12,599 Speaker 1: you know, creatively, because that is at the core of 147 00:10:13,080 --> 00:10:18,240 Speaker 1: this podcast. But in addition, it's certainly about in a 148 00:10:18,280 --> 00:10:24,240 Speaker 1: busy world, using mindfulness in the moment and certainly appreciating 149 00:10:24,559 --> 00:10:28,800 Speaker 1: that moment, whether you're in your backyard or New York 150 00:10:28,880 --> 00:10:33,720 Speaker 1: City or Philadelphia where you've spent some time, or I 151 00:10:33,800 --> 00:10:40,600 Speaker 1: dare say maybe even Las Vegas as well. Right, yeah, 152 00:10:40,720 --> 00:10:44,240 Speaker 1: walking in Vegas is a little bit different, but because 153 00:10:44,280 --> 00:10:50,400 Speaker 1: it's so hot. But but but yes, I definitely. I 154 00:10:50,400 --> 00:10:54,400 Speaker 1: mean it's I think wherever you are and whatever you're doing, 155 00:10:54,960 --> 00:10:58,120 Speaker 1: I think it's important to step away from, especially if 156 00:10:58,120 --> 00:11:01,880 Speaker 1: you're doing concentrated work, which music always is. It's about minutia, 157 00:11:02,040 --> 00:11:07,960 Speaker 1: it's about detail, and you know, it's to step away 158 00:11:08,280 --> 00:11:11,640 Speaker 1: and just look at the bigger world around you, take 159 00:11:11,679 --> 00:11:15,600 Speaker 1: it in and then go back. It just it helps 160 00:11:15,640 --> 00:11:22,520 Speaker 1: and informs everything you do, it really does. Uh. And 161 00:11:22,720 --> 00:11:25,480 Speaker 1: cities are great to take a walk in. I mean, gosh, 162 00:11:25,520 --> 00:11:30,120 Speaker 1: New York. New York is constant inspiration for good, for 163 00:11:30,280 --> 00:11:34,080 Speaker 1: good and for bad wherever you're gonna turn. Philly the 164 00:11:34,120 --> 00:11:36,200 Speaker 1: same way I mean I was. I was raised in 165 00:11:36,240 --> 00:11:40,480 Speaker 1: Philly and it's it's you know, so much of it 166 00:11:40,559 --> 00:11:44,360 Speaker 1: is just you're walking in history or you're walking in 167 00:11:45,080 --> 00:11:48,440 Speaker 1: you know, gentrification of and trying to and people trying 168 00:11:48,480 --> 00:11:51,679 Speaker 1: to change not the history, but to change that the 169 00:11:51,720 --> 00:11:54,760 Speaker 1: city to make it more modern. And you know, that's 170 00:11:55,240 --> 00:11:56,760 Speaker 1: the Philly I grew up in is different from the 171 00:11:56,800 --> 00:12:02,160 Speaker 1: Philly that exists now. But and Vegas is just like 172 00:12:03,040 --> 00:12:09,079 Speaker 1: it's just this sprawl of decadence that is just enjoyable 173 00:12:09,120 --> 00:12:11,160 Speaker 1: to see, even if you're not participating in it. I 174 00:12:11,559 --> 00:12:14,360 Speaker 1: actually some of the best walking in sight seeing you 175 00:12:14,400 --> 00:12:17,960 Speaker 1: can do is just walking through a casino or walking 176 00:12:18,040 --> 00:12:23,720 Speaker 1: outside Vegas at night and seeing how people process the town. 177 00:12:25,600 --> 00:12:30,280 Speaker 1: But you spent some formative years in Vegas, didn't you. Well, 178 00:12:31,480 --> 00:12:36,560 Speaker 1: formative might be strong, but I yes, I was. Part 179 00:12:36,600 --> 00:12:40,720 Speaker 1: of my story is that I was a blackjack card counter. 180 00:12:40,840 --> 00:12:43,720 Speaker 1: I was a member of a card counting team. And 181 00:12:46,080 --> 00:12:49,199 Speaker 1: it basically it was a team. It was a lot 182 00:12:49,200 --> 00:12:51,480 Speaker 1: of people they had formed this team. It was lawyers 183 00:12:51,520 --> 00:12:54,240 Speaker 1: and Wall Street people and so on and so forth. 184 00:12:54,480 --> 00:12:57,400 Speaker 1: But who were all gamblers, poker player professional poker players. 185 00:12:58,400 --> 00:13:02,360 Speaker 1: And it was much like people see in the movies 186 00:13:02,440 --> 00:13:04,959 Speaker 1: like that twenty one movie or much like people have 187 00:13:05,080 --> 00:13:07,080 Speaker 1: read about with the MIT team. As a matter of fact, 188 00:13:07,080 --> 00:13:09,760 Speaker 1: we had one or two people that had been around 189 00:13:09,760 --> 00:13:12,040 Speaker 1: that team, or I think one person that had actually 190 00:13:12,080 --> 00:13:17,960 Speaker 1: been on it. And it was a random job that 191 00:13:18,040 --> 00:13:20,720 Speaker 1: I got from a college friend. I was at a 192 00:13:20,760 --> 00:13:24,280 Speaker 1: wedding and we had seen it. We saw each other 193 00:13:24,320 --> 00:13:25,720 Speaker 1: and we were like, oh, what are you doing? And 194 00:13:26,920 --> 00:13:29,880 Speaker 1: I was working. I hadn't moved to LA yet. I 195 00:13:29,960 --> 00:13:32,640 Speaker 1: was trying to figure that out, and because I knew 196 00:13:32,679 --> 00:13:34,800 Speaker 1: I wanted to be a composer, and I was working 197 00:13:34,840 --> 00:13:37,120 Speaker 1: in a law firm trying to earn some extra money 198 00:13:37,280 --> 00:13:42,200 Speaker 1: to move and he said, well, I got a job 199 00:13:42,240 --> 00:13:44,360 Speaker 1: for you if if you want to do this, and 200 00:13:44,559 --> 00:13:47,880 Speaker 1: you know, we'd train you. And so I ended up 201 00:13:47,920 --> 00:13:50,199 Speaker 1: doing that for a few years before I moved to 202 00:13:50,280 --> 00:13:52,840 Speaker 1: LA in a little bit after. And it was definitely 203 00:13:52,880 --> 00:13:56,280 Speaker 1: an adventure. He ended up writing a book about it, 204 00:13:56,320 --> 00:14:03,000 Speaker 1: actually called Repeat until Rich my friend, but it was 205 00:14:03,080 --> 00:14:05,280 Speaker 1: it was a real adventure. It was. It was definitely 206 00:14:06,559 --> 00:14:09,040 Speaker 1: I wouldn't change a thing. I have to say for 207 00:14:09,280 --> 00:14:13,160 Speaker 1: gambling fans. My one when I talk to people about it, 208 00:14:13,640 --> 00:14:16,520 Speaker 1: the disappointment I give them is how boring it was. 209 00:14:16,640 --> 00:14:19,840 Speaker 1: Actually because you are sitting and you don't think of 210 00:14:19,920 --> 00:14:23,800 Speaker 1: Vegas as boring, but sitting in a high limit room 211 00:14:24,680 --> 00:14:29,000 Speaker 1: in the MGM for eight hours straight at a table 212 00:14:29,880 --> 00:14:33,440 Speaker 1: is just it can It's just a little mind numbing 213 00:14:33,680 --> 00:14:39,440 Speaker 1: and you know it's it's There is even music I 214 00:14:39,480 --> 00:14:41,960 Speaker 1: can't hear anymore because all the music at the casinos 215 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:45,320 Speaker 1: is on the loop. So I would there's a song 216 00:14:45,360 --> 00:14:47,840 Speaker 1: by Avril Levine. And I have nothing against Avril Levine, 217 00:14:47,880 --> 00:14:49,760 Speaker 1: She's great, like, but there's a song by her that 218 00:14:49,840 --> 00:14:53,680 Speaker 1: I cannot listen to to this day because every like 219 00:14:53,960 --> 00:14:56,320 Speaker 1: two or three hours, I'd hear it and I'd be 220 00:14:56,360 --> 00:14:58,560 Speaker 1: like it would be a measuring stick for how long 221 00:14:58,560 --> 00:15:02,560 Speaker 1: I'd been sitting on my butt at the table. So 222 00:15:02,680 --> 00:15:05,440 Speaker 1: to this day, I hear that song and I feel like, 223 00:15:05,520 --> 00:15:07,280 Speaker 1: do I have to go to the bathroom? Like I 224 00:15:07,360 --> 00:15:10,280 Speaker 1: just started to think, like, you know, like at what 225 00:15:10,480 --> 00:15:13,720 Speaker 1: hungry like because it's just like it feels like when 226 00:15:13,720 --> 00:15:15,840 Speaker 1: I hear that song, the time is passing and I'm 227 00:15:15,840 --> 00:15:20,320 Speaker 1: just sitting there. So it's so hysterical. So what do 228 00:15:20,360 --> 00:15:23,600 Speaker 1: you are you working on anything new these days? Yeah? 229 00:15:23,720 --> 00:15:27,000 Speaker 1: So I do a show, a TV show called Cold Justice, 230 00:15:27,320 --> 00:15:30,240 Speaker 1: which is produced by Dick Wolf of you know, Law 231 00:15:30,280 --> 00:15:33,760 Speaker 1: and Order fame and uh, you know Dick what Dick 232 00:15:33,960 --> 00:15:37,120 Speaker 1: hasn't Dick Wolf done in his you know, forty years 233 00:15:37,160 --> 00:15:40,640 Speaker 1: as a TV producer. But like hat, I'm lucky enough 234 00:15:40,680 --> 00:15:42,320 Speaker 1: to be a part of a small part of the 235 00:15:42,360 --> 00:15:46,120 Speaker 1: Dick Wolf family and Cole Justice is a great show. 236 00:15:46,160 --> 00:15:50,720 Speaker 1: It's an unscripted show where this uh, these former law 237 00:15:50,800 --> 00:15:54,720 Speaker 1: enforcement people go around and solve cold case murders. And 238 00:15:55,400 --> 00:15:58,840 Speaker 1: we actually have solved quite a few and gotten some 239 00:15:58,880 --> 00:16:05,240 Speaker 1: confessions and gotten some arrests and convictions. It's actually I'm 240 00:16:05,280 --> 00:16:06,840 Speaker 1: really proud to be a part of that project. And 241 00:16:06,840 --> 00:16:09,200 Speaker 1: I write the music for that project. And we're about 242 00:16:09,240 --> 00:16:13,760 Speaker 1: to do our one hundredth episode. Actually yeah, that'll air 243 00:16:13,880 --> 00:16:17,280 Speaker 1: in I'm working on the show right now, the score 244 00:16:17,360 --> 00:16:21,479 Speaker 1: right now. It'll air in August and September and October. 245 00:16:21,520 --> 00:16:32,040 Speaker 1: I think, wow, congratulations on all your great credits, Netflix, HBO, TNT, Bravo, Showtime, Nickelodeon. 246 00:16:32,240 --> 00:16:38,280 Speaker 1: Did I leave anything out? I don't know. When I 247 00:16:38,320 --> 00:16:40,880 Speaker 1: hear that. When I hear that sometimes and you say that, 248 00:16:41,160 --> 00:16:42,720 Speaker 1: I have to think for a second. Wait, I was 249 00:16:42,800 --> 00:16:45,880 Speaker 1: oh yeah, wait, oh yeah, oh you know that feel 250 00:16:46,000 --> 00:16:49,320 Speaker 1: very lucky to have to be like a living in 251 00:16:49,360 --> 00:16:52,640 Speaker 1: this business. It's a it's a plays something I think 252 00:16:52,640 --> 00:16:57,640 Speaker 1: about a lot. Well, you have an amazing journey. Congratulations 253 00:16:57,720 --> 00:17:02,960 Speaker 1: on it. Congratulations on your work with The Walk, starring 254 00:17:03,040 --> 00:17:07,320 Speaker 1: Terrence Howard and Justin Chatwin, the story of racial divide 255 00:17:08,520 --> 00:17:12,760 Speaker 1: Boston the mid seventies. Robert touterris, I hope we can 256 00:17:12,760 --> 00:17:15,240 Speaker 1: take a Walk, maybe in person at some point, but 257 00:17:15,720 --> 00:17:17,560 Speaker 1: whenever I'm in New York, I'd love to do it. 258 00:17:17,920 --> 00:17:19,840 Speaker 1: I've been trying. I've been trying to get back there, 259 00:17:20,040 --> 00:17:22,720 Speaker 1: and I just haven't had a chance. Whenever I'm there, 260 00:17:22,720 --> 00:17:24,560 Speaker 1: I'll let you know. Come to New York, if you 261 00:17:24,640 --> 00:17:27,600 Speaker 1: come to Boston, or we do it. We will do 262 00:17:27,720 --> 00:17:30,879 Speaker 1: the we'll do the in person. But thanks for taking 263 00:17:30,960 --> 00:17:35,560 Speaker 1: part in the Taking a Walk podcast series, and check 264 00:17:35,600 --> 00:17:38,800 Speaker 1: out The Walk. It's playing in theaters, but then of 265 00:17:38,800 --> 00:17:44,359 Speaker 1: course it'll be available on streaming services of course after that, right, Roberts, 266 00:17:44,920 --> 00:17:46,359 Speaker 1: that's right, and I think you could even get it 267 00:17:46,359 --> 00:17:48,560 Speaker 1: on on demand right now. But it's but it's the 268 00:17:48,680 --> 00:17:50,280 Speaker 1: go to the if you can go to a theater, 269 00:17:50,359 --> 00:17:53,200 Speaker 1: it's it's a great experience. And so it was wonderful 270 00:17:53,200 --> 00:17:55,920 Speaker 1: to see it in the theater, and you know, I'm 271 00:17:56,000 --> 00:17:58,560 Speaker 1: I love the theater, so yeah, before at the theaters. 272 00:17:58,560 --> 00:18:00,919 Speaker 1: That's a really am worse point. It's been tough on 273 00:18:01,000 --> 00:18:04,560 Speaker 1: theaters for sure, house these last few years. So Robert, 274 00:18:04,640 --> 00:18:07,280 Speaker 1: it's an honor to talk with you and meet you 275 00:18:07,440 --> 00:18:09,960 Speaker 1: and thanks for taking a walk. Well, thank you so 276 00:18:10,080 --> 00:18:12,040 Speaker 1: much for having me on the show. I really appreciate it. 277 00:18:13,000 --> 00:18:18,199 Speaker 1: Taking a Walk with Buzznight is available on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, 278 00:18:18,760 --> 00:18:20,879 Speaker 1: or wherever you get your podcasts.