WEBVTT - Masters Memories 0:00:01.360 --> 0:00:03.080 It's the Son of a Butcher podcast. I'm your host, 0:00:03.120 --> 0:00:05.760 Claude Harmon. This week the first major of the year, 0:00:06.280 --> 0:00:09.920 The Masters. I just got to Augusta and I was 0:00:09.960 --> 0:00:11.280 trying to think of what to do this week for 0:00:11.320 --> 0:00:15.080 the podcast. And I think the Masters is so special 0:00:15.200 --> 0:00:17.160 because of a lot of things, right, But I think 0:00:17.200 --> 0:00:19.040 one of the things that makes it so special is 0:00:19.079 --> 0:00:21.640 it's the only major to where it's at the same 0:00:21.760 --> 0:00:25.119 course every single year. So there are so many memories 0:00:25.200 --> 0:00:28.400 at Augusta. Because the golf course is the same, the 0:00:28.480 --> 0:00:31.840 venue is the same, the location's the same, you kind 0:00:31.840 --> 0:00:33.839 of know what you're going to get. You kind of 0:00:33.880 --> 0:00:38.320 know what the week is going to be like. Throughout history, 0:00:38.640 --> 0:00:42.360 so many iconic moments. And my grandfather won the Masters 0:00:42.400 --> 0:00:45.600 in nineteen forty eight, and our family, we have a 0:00:45.640 --> 0:00:48.360 pretty rich history here. My dad's worked with a bunch 0:00:48.360 --> 0:00:51.320 of players that have won here, Tiger and Phil and 0:00:51.320 --> 0:00:53.920 a bunch of the players that he's worked with. My 0:00:54.000 --> 0:00:57.120 uncle Billy caddied for Jay Haas here. They had a 0:00:57.200 --> 0:00:58.880 chance to win in eighty six when he was on 0:00:58.920 --> 0:01:01.440 the bag for Jay Haas. But I just wanted to 0:01:01.440 --> 0:01:04.800 talk about kind of my memories at Augusta that kind 0:01:04.800 --> 0:01:07.280 of stand out to me and the first real one 0:01:07.319 --> 0:01:09.280 for me. And it's actually the first time I went 0:01:09.319 --> 0:01:11.480 to Augusta National and went to the Masters. It was 0:01:11.600 --> 0:01:15.399 nineteen eighty seven. That's the Larry Mees chip in with 0:01:15.560 --> 0:01:18.759 Greg Norman, and I was going through and looking at 0:01:19.480 --> 0:01:21.959 and doing some research for it. And one hundred and 0:01:22.000 --> 0:01:25.240 sixty two thousand dollars Larry Mayes one in nineteen eighty seven, 0:01:25.280 --> 0:01:29.200 which is, you know, given what players are winning tournaments now, 0:01:29.520 --> 0:01:33.080 it's kind of crazy. When my grandfather won in nineteen forty, 0:01:33.160 --> 0:01:37.440 I think he made twenty five hundred dollars US. But 0:01:38.080 --> 0:01:40.679 the Masters in nineteen eighty seven was my first trip 0:01:40.680 --> 0:01:43.920 to Augusta National, And if I'm honest, it was really 0:01:44.000 --> 0:01:46.240 kind of the first time that I really kind of 0:01:46.319 --> 0:01:51.600 understood kind of what my family did. I didn't play 0:01:51.600 --> 0:01:53.520 a lot of golf growing up. I really didn't. I 0:01:53.520 --> 0:01:55.840 didn't play junior golf at any level. I think I 0:01:55.920 --> 0:01:57.600 tried out from my high school golf team because I 0:01:57.640 --> 0:01:59.520 think I thought I was supposed to try out for 0:01:59.560 --> 0:02:02.600 it because my dad was a golf pro. And I 0:02:02.600 --> 0:02:04.640 mean I shot a million for nine holes. I was 0:02:04.800 --> 0:02:06.760 not a good golfer and never was a good golfer, 0:02:06.800 --> 0:02:10.320 still not a great golfer. So I never played golf 0:02:10.400 --> 0:02:13.359 at any level, so I didn't really kind of understand, 0:02:13.960 --> 0:02:16.880 you know, who my grandfather was and kind of his 0:02:17.000 --> 0:02:19.320 place in history. And you've got to remember, in the 0:02:19.480 --> 0:02:23.640 late eighties, golf was not cool. It wasn't what it 0:02:23.720 --> 0:02:28.440 is today. To me, growing up, golf was, you know, 0:02:28.919 --> 0:02:32.200 funny clothes and a bunch of old people playing lots 0:02:32.200 --> 0:02:35.840 of rules, and it just wasn't something that I was 0:02:35.880 --> 0:02:39.079 really drawn to. And I think because my father grew 0:02:39.160 --> 0:02:42.160 up having a famous father like I did, I think 0:02:42.200 --> 0:02:43.639 he felt a lot of pressure, right, I think he 0:02:43.680 --> 0:02:46.560 felt a lot of pressure to play. My dad had brothers, 0:02:46.639 --> 0:02:49.480 all four of them played, and I think my dad 0:02:49.520 --> 0:02:52.040 felt a lot a lot of pressure. I never felt that, 0:02:52.120 --> 0:02:54.760 and my dad never really pushed golf on me. So 0:02:54.800 --> 0:02:57.640 when we went to the Masters in eighty seven, it 0:02:57.680 --> 0:03:00.560 was very much an eye opener because it was really 0:03:00.600 --> 0:03:02.639 the first time that I actually really spent any time, 0:03:02.680 --> 0:03:06.720 if I'm honest, around my grandfather. My grandfather was. He 0:03:06.760 --> 0:03:10.120 was old school, very much like my dad. He wasn't 0:03:10.400 --> 0:03:13.840 the most warm and fuzzy type of person, but that week. 0:03:14.000 --> 0:03:15.880 I don't know what it was about that week, maybe 0:03:15.919 --> 0:03:18.600 the fact that my father chose to name me after him, 0:03:18.760 --> 0:03:21.679 that he saw something that was the year. I think 0:03:21.680 --> 0:03:24.120 I was graduating from high school that year in nineteen 0:03:24.160 --> 0:03:28.000 eighty seven, and every single almost every single day, he 0:03:28.480 --> 0:03:31.919 took me for breakfast up to the old Champions locker room, 0:03:31.960 --> 0:03:35.120 which was tiny. I mean, the Champions locker room, even 0:03:35.240 --> 0:03:37.880 in twenty twenty five is not very big. I think 0:03:37.920 --> 0:03:41.480 people would be very surprised at just how small it 0:03:41.600 --> 0:03:44.960 is today. But back then, in the late eighties, I mean, 0:03:44.960 --> 0:03:47.760 it was tiny. But he took me up there for breakfast, 0:03:47.880 --> 0:03:51.400 and it was very much kind of an eye opening 0:03:51.440 --> 0:03:55.160 experience for me because I saw how he was treated, 0:03:55.640 --> 0:03:58.760 the praise and the respect that he was shown by 0:03:59.400 --> 0:04:01.640 all the great players. And I just remember going up 0:04:01.640 --> 0:04:04.720 into the locker room and Byron Nelson was there, Sam 0:04:04.800 --> 0:04:07.360 Snead was there. I mean, I saw Sevy for the 0:04:07.360 --> 0:04:11.440 first time, Arnold Jack, all these you know, just icons 0:04:11.480 --> 0:04:14.440 in these you know, heroic kind of figures in the 0:04:14.440 --> 0:04:17.760 game of golf. And I don't know why he chose 0:04:17.800 --> 0:04:21.240 to do that, because I didn't really have any real 0:04:21.320 --> 0:04:23.640 relationship with the guy. I mean, you know, I was 0:04:23.960 --> 0:04:27.479 a high schooler. I didn't play golf, so in that respect, 0:04:27.560 --> 0:04:30.320 I was kind of an outsider. But it was a really, 0:04:30.400 --> 0:04:33.359 really kind act that he did, and he took me. 0:04:34.520 --> 0:04:37.240 We had breakfast, and it was just I'll always remember that, 0:04:37.279 --> 0:04:40.120 and every time I come back to the Masters, it's 0:04:40.160 --> 0:04:43.719 always a memory that's that's very fresh in my mind, 0:04:43.760 --> 0:04:46.479 even though it was a really long time ago. I 0:04:46.480 --> 0:04:48.680 also think that we got in trouble because we were 0:04:48.720 --> 0:04:51.080 staying in a house and you know, I was bored, 0:04:51.160 --> 0:04:55.120 and again, I wasn't really into golf back then, and 0:04:55.240 --> 0:04:57.880 I wanted to go see a movie. Take the car 0:04:57.920 --> 0:05:00.240 and go see a movie, and both my parents you're 0:05:00.279 --> 0:05:03.640 not going to see a movie. So if I remember correctly, 0:05:03.800 --> 0:05:08.440 I walked to the movie theater and saw Angel Heart, 0:05:08.480 --> 0:05:11.200 which had just come out with Mickey Rourke and Robert 0:05:11.240 --> 0:05:13.240 de nirof anybody's seen that movie. And I think I 0:05:13.279 --> 0:05:15.520 got grounded for going out and got in a lot 0:05:15.560 --> 0:05:17.560 of trouble for that. But that's really the first kind 0:05:17.600 --> 0:05:21.200 of Master's memory that I have. The second one that 0:05:21.800 --> 0:05:25.240 stands out nineteen ninety seven, my dad was organ with 0:05:25.240 --> 0:05:29.680 Tiger Woods. Tiger wins eighteen under wins by twelve and 0:05:30.120 --> 0:05:32.039 going back and looking at the prize money in that year, 0:05:32.120 --> 0:05:35.560 so ten years later, four hundred and eighty six thousand 0:05:35.640 --> 0:05:38.520 total perse was two point seven million, which is just 0:05:38.920 --> 0:05:42.000 again crazy to think of, But there seemed to be 0:05:42.640 --> 0:05:48.960 somewhat that year of almost an inevitability about Tiger winning there. 0:05:49.000 --> 0:05:51.560 And I think it was the way in which he won. 0:05:52.960 --> 0:05:54.800 He shot forty on the front I think a lot 0:05:54.839 --> 0:05:58.760 of people forget that. On Thursday Tiger Woods went out 0:05:58.760 --> 0:06:01.440 and shot forty on the front nine at Augusta in 0:06:01.480 --> 0:06:03.320 the Masters and went on to win by twelve and 0:06:03.320 --> 0:06:06.760 shoot eighteen under, which kind of gives you an idea 0:06:06.920 --> 0:06:10.839 of the iconic week that that was. And I just 0:06:10.960 --> 0:06:13.760 remember it was on the old driving range, which is 0:06:13.839 --> 0:06:16.799 kind of behind the clubhouse now. So when you drive 0:06:16.839 --> 0:06:19.960 down Magnolia Lane, you get to the clubhouse where everybody 0:06:20.040 --> 0:06:22.280 takes their pictures, and then you go over to the 0:06:22.360 --> 0:06:25.640 right the members driving ranges all along the right hand side. 0:06:25.720 --> 0:06:28.200 And now when you come in, you come to the 0:06:28.200 --> 0:06:31.320 clubhouse and you take a writ and the past champions 0:06:31.320 --> 0:06:34.200 now park there, But back in the day, that's where 0:06:34.200 --> 0:06:37.600 the driving range was, and I just remember watching and 0:06:37.680 --> 0:06:40.039 sitting on the driving range and watching my dad work 0:06:40.080 --> 0:06:43.359 with Tiger. And you know, I'd known Tiger since nineteen 0:06:43.440 --> 0:06:46.039 ninety three. The first golf lesson my dad ever gave 0:06:46.080 --> 0:06:48.600 Tiger Woods in August of ninety three in Houston at 0:06:48.640 --> 0:06:50.680 Lock and Bar. I ran all the video and shut 0:06:50.680 --> 0:06:52.840 all the video for that. So I'd spend a lot 0:06:52.839 --> 0:06:56.120 of time around Tiger, and you know, knew him pretty well. 0:06:56.160 --> 0:06:59.280 And I just remember waiting. I came around from the 0:06:59.360 --> 0:07:01.920 driving range and got on the other side of the clubhouse, 0:07:01.920 --> 0:07:04.040 which is where the golf courses, and there's the big 0:07:04.080 --> 0:07:06.960 tree by the clubhouse where everyone hangs out, and I 0:07:07.080 --> 0:07:10.200 just wanted to see him before he went out, and 0:07:10.280 --> 0:07:12.560 so I kind of positioned myself to where I knew 0:07:12.560 --> 0:07:14.560 he was going to have to pass me, and he 0:07:14.600 --> 0:07:16.920 saw me, made eye contact and everything, and I said 0:07:16.960 --> 0:07:19.960 to him, go have fun, you know, go out and 0:07:19.960 --> 0:07:23.280 have fun today. And I just remember that week. It 0:07:23.360 --> 0:07:27.600 was just I mean, it was just crazy, the things 0:07:27.640 --> 0:07:29.880 that he was doing, the shots that he was hitting. 0:07:30.040 --> 0:07:32.760 But the thing that I always remember about that week 0:07:33.040 --> 0:07:37.240 was it was like golf changed overnight. In ninety seven 0:07:37.280 --> 0:07:41.200 at the Masters and the players that Tiger beat that week. 0:07:41.200 --> 0:07:43.720 I mean, he beat Tom Kite by twelve shots. You know, 0:07:43.760 --> 0:07:46.800 you had Ton of Montgomery in an interview talking about 0:07:46.880 --> 0:07:48.800 you know, he just plays a game that you know, 0:07:48.920 --> 0:07:52.280 nobody really has ever seen before, and he was doing 0:07:52.360 --> 0:07:54.160 things and hitting the golf ball. I mean, I can 0:07:54.280 --> 0:07:59.040 remember in the early nineties Tiger had I think, gosh, 0:07:59.480 --> 0:08:02.000 the first off listening he came to take with my dad. 0:08:02.040 --> 0:08:07.200 I think he had either Mazzuno MP twenty seven's or seventeen's. 0:08:07.400 --> 0:08:10.560 The seven always stands out to me. Played the Max 0:08:10.600 --> 0:08:15.040 Fly HT ninety golf ball. They had the Berner Flex twist, 0:08:15.080 --> 0:08:18.560 the tailor made Berner Flex twist driver and back then 0:08:19.120 --> 0:08:23.480 he hit shots as far with that old equipment as 0:08:23.920 --> 0:08:26.480 he definitely hit his irons as far as you know 0:08:26.760 --> 0:08:29.280 they do today. I mean, it's crazy to think like that, 0:08:30.080 --> 0:08:33.400 but there was just so much hype, and I don't 0:08:33.440 --> 0:08:36.320 think there's ever been Rarely do we see an athlete 0:08:36.400 --> 0:08:38.240 live up to the hype like Tiger did, right. I mean, 0:08:38.280 --> 0:08:42.199 he came out, he was a superstary when all the usams. 0:08:43.280 --> 0:08:45.480 He was supposed to be the next great thing. He 0:08:45.559 --> 0:08:48.520 played at Augusta in the past as the Usam champion, 0:08:48.880 --> 0:08:52.800 and there was just something about him and at that time, 0:08:52.880 --> 0:08:56.760 and I consider myself incredibly lucky to have been there 0:08:56.800 --> 0:09:00.000 in ninety seven to watch everything that he did, because 0:09:00.280 --> 0:09:03.800 it was just it was fascinating to watch him just 0:09:04.280 --> 0:09:09.840 overpower a golf course and overpower a field that you know, 0:09:09.960 --> 0:09:14.439 almost at times made professional golfers who had had incredible 0:09:14.520 --> 0:09:18.800 careers look just mediocre and ordinary. I mean, you know, 0:09:18.920 --> 0:09:23.440 Tom Kite was an unbelievable player. You know, the players 0:09:23.480 --> 0:09:27.480 at that time in the day, Davis Love, Greg Norman, 0:09:27.640 --> 0:09:31.520 I mean, Tiger just he just changed golf overnight. And 0:09:32.240 --> 0:09:34.920 it was pretty special to be there. It was warm. 0:09:34.960 --> 0:09:40.199 I remember. I remember being on the old eleventh fair 0:09:40.240 --> 0:09:43.240 way when he hit one over to the right and 0:09:43.320 --> 0:09:46.000 I was standing by his mom. And there was a 0:09:46.040 --> 0:09:49.120 guy back then who was kind of Tiger's guy at 0:09:49.200 --> 0:09:52.040 Nike named Greg Nard, and he was kind of, you know, 0:09:52.640 --> 0:09:56.520 escorting Tiger's mom around. But just all of the buzz 0:09:56.600 --> 0:09:58.840 and all of the hype that week and to see 0:09:58.920 --> 0:10:02.120 Tiger do that and to do the things that he 0:10:02.160 --> 0:10:05.959 did that week in ninety seven was just magical from 0:10:06.000 --> 0:10:08.640 a golf standpoint. And that was the first of his 0:10:08.800 --> 0:10:13.440 fifth Masters, and just like being at the Masters in 0:10:13.480 --> 0:10:16.040 eighty seven with my grandfather, to be there in ninety seven, 0:10:16.080 --> 0:10:19.240 ten years later. I was in the golf you know, 0:10:19.360 --> 0:10:21.080 trying to get in the golf business at that time 0:10:21.160 --> 0:10:25.400 and trying to find my way as a young professional, 0:10:25.480 --> 0:10:29.480 and yeah, ninety seven always sticks out to me as 0:10:29.760 --> 0:10:34.679 something really really special. 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But at that time I was working 0:11:08.480 --> 0:11:11.760 with Trevor Immlman, and obviously Trevor now kind of one 0:11:11.800 --> 0:11:14.160 of the voices of the Masters with CBS. But I 0:11:14.200 --> 0:11:16.160 started working with Trevor. I was living in Europe at 0:11:16.200 --> 0:11:19.640 the time, living in Scotland and traveling on the European 0:11:19.640 --> 0:11:22.200 Tour and started working with Trevor in two thousand and 0:11:22.240 --> 0:11:25.520 two when I moved from Las Vegas to London and 0:11:25.520 --> 0:11:28.880 lived in London for a year and then moved to Glasgow, Scotland. 0:11:29.000 --> 0:11:32.120 And you know, the goal was when I started working 0:11:32.160 --> 0:11:33.960 with Trevor, he was outside, you know, he wasn't He 0:11:34.000 --> 0:11:35.400 had had a ton of hype. I mean, he made 0:11:35.400 --> 0:11:38.320 the cut at the Masters, you know, as an amateur. 0:11:38.720 --> 0:11:41.760 But our goal was to get to the Masters, right, 0:11:41.880 --> 0:11:46.280 and so it took two long, hard years of a 0:11:46.280 --> 0:11:48.880 lot of work, a lot of travel in Europe, all 0:11:48.920 --> 0:11:52.440 over the world. And I remember going to the Masters 0:11:52.440 --> 0:11:55.400 for the first time. Obviously my grandfather had won there, 0:11:55.520 --> 0:11:58.400 my dad had you know, helped Tiger win there, and 0:11:58.679 --> 0:12:00.760 you know all of the history of the fan and 0:12:00.800 --> 0:12:03.720 I just remember walking on again to the old driving 0:12:03.840 --> 0:12:07.720 range and I felt like I wasn't an impostor anymore. 0:12:07.760 --> 0:12:11.440 I mean, imposter syndrome is real, right, and I had 0:12:11.440 --> 0:12:14.080 that for a long time in my life and in 0:12:14.120 --> 0:12:16.840 my career. And you know, there's still times where I 0:12:16.880 --> 0:12:20.080 struggle with confidence, wondering if I'm good enough, wondering if 0:12:20.120 --> 0:12:23.280 I'm ever going to get to the next level, and 0:12:23.360 --> 0:12:26.760 you know, all of those things, and when Tiger won 0:12:26.800 --> 0:12:29.160 in ninety seven, to go back there in two thousand 0:12:29.160 --> 0:12:32.120 and four, I said to myself in ninety seven, I'm 0:12:32.160 --> 0:12:34.520 going to come back here one day with a player 0:12:35.320 --> 0:12:37.600 that was my goal. That was that was really my 0:12:37.760 --> 0:12:41.360 dream to do that, to come back and be a 0:12:41.400 --> 0:12:45.720 part of that, and to know what that felt like 0:12:45.800 --> 0:12:48.800 to walk onto the range with the player that you 0:12:48.840 --> 0:12:51.839 were working on, because to me as a golf instructor, 0:12:52.080 --> 0:12:56.600 it's the pinnacle of I think what we do to 0:12:56.720 --> 0:12:58.559 work with a player that is good enough to get 0:12:58.559 --> 0:13:00.760 into a major championship, but to work with a player 0:13:00.760 --> 0:13:03.839 that is good enough to get into a Master's he's 0:13:03.920 --> 0:13:07.840 to me something very, very very special. And I just 0:13:07.880 --> 0:13:11.280 remember walking onto the range with Trevor. If I remember correctly, 0:13:11.320 --> 0:13:15.280 that was Arnold's last Masters in two thousand and four, 0:13:15.320 --> 0:13:19.360 and Trevor was supposed to play a practice round with him. 0:13:19.400 --> 0:13:22.360 I remember, I don't know if I guess I still 0:13:22.360 --> 0:13:24.840 can't remember if they actually played that practice round, but 0:13:25.160 --> 0:13:28.960 I just I had a huge sense of pride in 0:13:29.000 --> 0:13:31.920 myself that I had watched you know, my dad have 0:13:32.040 --> 0:13:35.640 this unbelievable career as kind of the goat of professional 0:13:35.640 --> 0:13:38.120 golf instruction, and you know, all the work that he 0:13:38.160 --> 0:13:40.719 did with all the majors that Tiger won there, and 0:13:41.120 --> 0:13:44.480 the history of the family and my grandfather and stuff, 0:13:44.520 --> 0:13:47.080 and I just I still to this day remember walking 0:13:47.120 --> 0:13:50.960 onto the driving range and just saying to myself, Yeah, 0:13:51.160 --> 0:13:53.920 you did it, because that was a goal that I 0:13:53.960 --> 0:13:56.920 had set for myself back in ninety seven when I 0:13:56.960 --> 0:14:00.280 watched Tiger win there and watching my dad work with 0:14:00.360 --> 0:14:02.640 him on the driving range and watching you know, David 0:14:02.679 --> 0:14:05.400 Ledbetter at that time was just you know, a larger 0:14:05.440 --> 0:14:07.840 than life character. He was an icon. You know, the 0:14:07.880 --> 0:14:10.960 work that he did with Nick Faldo and all of that. 0:14:11.120 --> 0:14:13.880 It just in ninety seven, it left a really big 0:14:13.920 --> 0:14:16.240 impression on me. And so when I started coaching and 0:14:16.280 --> 0:14:19.320 started teaching and started doing it full time in two 0:14:19.360 --> 0:14:23.520 thousand and two, I met Trevor and you know, he 0:14:23.560 --> 0:14:25.360 asked me the first time I worked with him, Hey, 0:14:25.360 --> 0:14:27.240 what would the goal be? And I said, Hey, the 0:14:27.240 --> 0:14:29.200 goal would be to get you inside the top fifty. 0:14:29.760 --> 0:14:32.320 Back then top fifty got you into all the majors. 0:14:32.680 --> 0:14:34.120 And I said to him the goal is to get 0:14:34.160 --> 0:14:37.560 you back where you kind of belong. Because Trevor was 0:14:37.600 --> 0:14:40.200 always going to be a great player, he was always 0:14:40.200 --> 0:14:43.200 going to be an amazing golfer. But when I met 0:14:43.280 --> 0:14:47.360 him in Europe in two thousand and two, I was traveling. 0:14:47.360 --> 0:14:49.280 I was working with Adam Scott and Darren Clark at 0:14:49.280 --> 0:14:51.400 that time, and he asked me for some help. And 0:14:51.440 --> 0:14:53.080 I said to him, I said, listen, if we worked together, 0:14:53.120 --> 0:14:54.800 the goal would be to get you into all the 0:14:54.840 --> 0:14:57.800 majors and for the rest of your life, you know, 0:14:58.640 --> 0:15:00.040 get you to play in all the golf tournament it 0:15:00.040 --> 0:15:02.680 doesn't matter. And so the two of us kind of 0:15:02.720 --> 0:15:04.840 set out a goal to do that, and you know, 0:15:04.880 --> 0:15:07.800 we didn't make the cut that week, but it was 0:15:08.160 --> 0:15:11.400 a very very important week for me and and in 0:15:11.680 --> 0:15:15.480 my life. And I do remember he was working with 0:15:15.520 --> 0:15:19.560 Bob Rotella at the time, and Trevor was incredibly technical. 0:15:19.640 --> 0:15:22.240 I mean, I couldn't give Trevor enough information. I just 0:15:22.360 --> 0:15:24.320 I mean it was information overload. I mean it was 0:15:24.920 --> 0:15:26.760 cracked to the crack addict. And you know, if I 0:15:26.760 --> 0:15:29.560 had it to do over again, I probably wouldn't have 0:15:29.840 --> 0:15:32.360 listened to him tell me to give him more information. 0:15:32.480 --> 0:15:37.240 More things to work on. We worked, I mean, we 0:15:37.320 --> 0:15:40.040 worked our asses off for the three four years that 0:15:40.080 --> 0:15:41.600 I worked with Trevor. I mean, I think it broke 0:15:41.640 --> 0:15:44.480 the both of us. He broke his body, we broke 0:15:44.520 --> 0:15:47.840 each other. But I remember he was working with Bob 0:15:47.920 --> 0:15:50.600 Rotella at the time, and Rotella was really trying to 0:15:50.600 --> 0:15:53.240 get him to kind of get out of technique and 0:15:53.320 --> 0:15:56.240 get out of thinking so much about his golf swing, 0:15:56.320 --> 0:15:58.200 something that you know I talk a lot about on 0:15:58.240 --> 0:16:01.440 the pod and a fore iron. And again this was 0:16:01.480 --> 0:16:03.320 the old range, So the back end of the range 0:16:03.360 --> 0:16:06.160 has still to this day has netting because Washington Road 0:16:06.200 --> 0:16:09.200 is just behind it and the balls could go into 0:16:09.240 --> 0:16:11.680 Washington Road. So Roteller was like, all right, let's get 0:16:11.720 --> 0:16:14.040 out of the technique and let's get into kind of 0:16:14.720 --> 0:16:16.480 hitting a shot. And so he said, what I want 0:16:16.520 --> 0:16:17.960 you to do is I want you to pick a 0:16:17.960 --> 0:16:20.320 fore iron. I want you to pick out a very 0:16:20.760 --> 0:16:26.320 very small target, like a really really small target, and 0:16:26.360 --> 0:16:29.800 the only thing I want you to do is start 0:16:29.840 --> 0:16:32.800 the golf ball at the target. That's the goal of 0:16:32.920 --> 0:16:36.400 this test drill whatever he called it. And he said, 0:16:36.440 --> 0:16:39.000 after each shot, I'm going to ask you one question. 0:16:39.360 --> 0:16:41.840 Did the ball start at your target, and it's a 0:16:41.960 --> 0:16:44.960 yes or no answer, and that's the only thing I 0:16:44.960 --> 0:16:47.760 want from you. So Trevor stands up, picks out you 0:16:47.800 --> 0:16:50.560 know something, and then I remember Bob saying no, no, no, 0:16:50.600 --> 0:16:53.320 I need something. So Trevor said, I wanted to kind 0:16:53.320 --> 0:16:55.720 of start it at that tree and I'm going to 0:16:55.800 --> 0:16:59.080 hit a fade. And I remember Bob saying, okay, what 0:16:59.240 --> 0:17:02.320 part of the tree needs you to be really really specific? 0:17:02.680 --> 0:17:05.360 And so tred picked out a bunch of really specific targets. 0:17:05.359 --> 0:17:07.320 And so the first one he hits four and beautiful 0:17:07.880 --> 0:17:10.240 four starts at his intended target. He had like a 0:17:10.240 --> 0:17:13.159 little branch on a tree, started it and kind of 0:17:13.200 --> 0:17:15.480 hit a little beautiful high, little cut fade. And he 0:17:15.560 --> 0:17:18.359 came back and Bob said, did the ball start at 0:17:18.400 --> 0:17:20.680 the target? And he said yes, and then he went 0:17:20.760 --> 0:17:24.000 into an explanation of something else, and Bob said, no, 0:17:24.119 --> 0:17:26.440 I don't I don't care about any of that. Did 0:17:26.440 --> 0:17:28.679 the ball start at the target that you told me 0:17:28.760 --> 0:17:30.720 you had? He said yes, And he said, all right, 0:17:31.000 --> 0:17:35.520 pick out another target, same forearn and very specific target. 0:17:35.600 --> 0:17:38.600 Do it again. And every time Trevor hit a good one, 0:17:39.000 --> 0:17:42.960 he would want to expand on the shot. Every time 0:17:42.960 --> 0:17:45.600 he hit a bad one, he would want to expand 0:17:45.640 --> 0:17:48.159 on it even more. And I'll always remember this that 0:17:48.320 --> 0:17:51.520 Bob Rotella said to him, Listen, you're hitting a Foearn 0:17:51.720 --> 0:17:55.960 two hundred and something yards. You've picked out an incredibly 0:17:56.880 --> 0:18:01.160 specific small target for where you want the golf ball 0:18:01.240 --> 0:18:06.080 to start. How much more control do you really think 0:18:06.119 --> 0:18:09.639 that you have over what you're doing. And that's another 0:18:09.680 --> 0:18:12.560 thing that's always stuck with me about and I've talked 0:18:12.600 --> 0:18:16.080 about this a lot on the podcast, about finding start lines, 0:18:16.280 --> 0:18:20.200 finding you know, all of these things. That was kind 0:18:20.200 --> 0:18:23.040 of if I look back at it now, maybe I 0:18:23.040 --> 0:18:25.000 think that was kind of the impetus of that is 0:18:25.040 --> 0:18:27.960 picking out something really really small and where does the 0:18:27.960 --> 0:18:30.520 ball need to start? And even though Trevor didn't make 0:18:30.520 --> 0:18:33.960 the cut that week, it was a huge week for 0:18:34.080 --> 0:18:38.200 me professionally, but I think more personally because I kind 0:18:38.200 --> 0:18:42.879 of finally felt like I belonged in our family, because 0:18:42.920 --> 0:18:45.720 I never really felt and even to this day, I 0:18:45.760 --> 0:18:48.879 sometimes feel like a complete outsider in the Harmon family. 0:18:49.200 --> 0:18:51.399 But it was the first time that I felt like 0:18:52.040 --> 0:18:56.320 I belong. I've done the work and I've helped a 0:18:56.400 --> 0:19:01.040 player get to kind of the pinnacle of golf, which 0:19:01.119 --> 0:19:05.080 is playing in the Masters. And I'm incredibly proud of 0:19:05.119 --> 0:19:08.359 that moment, and I think about it a lot, and 0:19:08.440 --> 0:19:11.280 I think about the journey that I've been on since then, 0:19:12.400 --> 0:19:16.280 you know, almost over twenty years later. And I do 0:19:16.480 --> 0:19:18.359 also remember that was the same year we were at 0:19:18.359 --> 0:19:23.639 the Players Championship and Trevor qualified again being in the 0:19:23.640 --> 0:19:27.320 top fifty. My dad was working with that Scott, this 0:19:27.480 --> 0:19:30.080 funny one, and so my dad says to me, we're 0:19:30.119 --> 0:19:32.440 on the range, Trevor's hitting balls and talk to my 0:19:32.520 --> 0:19:34.239 dad and you know, I was living in Europe at 0:19:34.240 --> 0:19:36.040 the time, and back then, you know, I didn't have 0:19:36.040 --> 0:19:39.520 the greatest relationship with my dad. It's it's a little 0:19:39.520 --> 0:19:43.199 better now, but back then it wasn't great. And my 0:19:43.280 --> 0:19:45.000 dad said to me, you know, how's your man playing 0:19:45.040 --> 0:19:47.760 this week, Trevor Immelman. And I said, you know, I 0:19:47.800 --> 0:19:49.320 think he's playing really good. I think he's got a 0:19:49.400 --> 0:19:53.160 chance to win. And my dad said win. He said, man, 0:19:53.240 --> 0:19:55.520 your guy's never going to win a golf tournament. And 0:19:55.560 --> 0:19:58.120 I said, and at the time he's worked with with 0:19:58.119 --> 0:20:01.639 with Adam Scott. I said, I'll bet you one hundred 0:20:01.680 --> 0:20:04.320 dollars that Trevor wins a major before Adam Scott. And 0:20:04.359 --> 0:20:08.240 my dad always carries his money in a He wraps 0:20:08.440 --> 0:20:11.720 his credit cards around, you know, one hundred dollars bills 0:20:11.840 --> 0:20:13.520 and then puts a rubber band around it. And he 0:20:13.560 --> 0:20:17.760 took his we're on the range at TPC Sawgrass, Jacksonville. 0:20:17.800 --> 0:20:19.879 He takes his money out of his pocket and he 0:20:19.880 --> 0:20:21.760 throws it onto the ground on the range and he goes, 0:20:22.080 --> 0:20:24.640 I'll bet you all the money i've got that. Your man. 0:20:24.720 --> 0:20:27.000 Never anyone even went a tournament on the PGA tournal, 0:20:27.080 --> 0:20:29.320 let alone win a major. And I said, well, I'll 0:20:29.320 --> 0:20:33.240 bet he wins one hundred dollars a major before Adam Scott. 0:20:33.320 --> 0:20:36.240 And like I said, Trevor and I we just wore 0:20:36.280 --> 0:20:39.159 each other out. We broke each other. And then I 0:20:39.200 --> 0:20:42.680 think it was four. We were at the where were 0:20:42.720 --> 0:20:46.199 we We were at the World Cup in Spain. Trevor 0:20:46.240 --> 0:20:49.720 and Roy Sabatini had won the World Cup in three 0:20:49.800 --> 0:20:52.679