Speaker 1: Forever. Look man, oh I see you? Why why and
Speaker 1: look over there? How is that ulture? Yeah? Goodness, Oh
Speaker 1: it's me. It dropped in that. I'm so dropped in?
Speaker 1: Is it because we each had an alcoholic beverage run? Oh?
Speaker 1: Well that's more in the hell of sense. Well, you
Speaker 1: know what I did? I sobered up real good. What
Speaker 1: made your sober up? The day? Just the day. I
Speaker 1: had a cold brew right after and while that was
Speaker 1: just a hat on top of the house. So you're
Speaker 1: one way, then you're swinging the other way. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: but I had the most delicious brunch. And I want
Speaker 1: to put this place on the map because our guests
Speaker 1: today and the two of us and a friend of
Speaker 1: the show, one would even say best friend of the show,
Speaker 1: Suity Greene. We have a brunch spot. Well, it's it's
Speaker 1: a franchise. It's a little chain all over the city.
Speaker 1: Imagine referring to this full chain as like our private
Speaker 1: brunch spot. Popular restaurant in New York. Stay Sweet, We
Speaker 1: love going there. We love going to Sweet Chick. There's
Speaker 1: a location in Milliamsburg. There's a location and Laurie's side
Speaker 1: in Park Slow and Matt just unbuttoned his shirt for it.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I popped a button. I thought today
Speaker 1: we had hot waiters, we had very sexy staff. We
Speaker 1: had sexy staff. And then one of the best boys
Speaker 1: recognized our own boat. Oh it was lovely, Like I said,
Speaker 1: you are very funny, it's very sweet. Um god, I
Speaker 1: just I love. I love some good looking people serving
Speaker 1: me food. Yeah, that's the thing. And if you look bad,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, you can't. I don't care. Don't touch my
Speaker 1: food if you look bad. If you look bad, honey, honey,
Speaker 1: get your digits away from my chicken. This is all
Speaker 1: a joke. It is it is no, no, no, it's
Speaker 1: a joke. It's a joke. You can feed me if
Speaker 1: you look like what. I don't care what you look like.
Speaker 1: Oh if you like what, I can look like what
Speaker 1: you can look like? What? And I'll still take it.
Speaker 1: I would eat any food off our guests, really any food,
Speaker 1: because you know what, it would be clean, clean, it
Speaker 1: would smell good, it would smell good, and I know
Speaker 1: that it would be like sourced from the finest places.
Speaker 1: It would just you would just yeah. It's like you
Speaker 1: know how, um, you go to uh, you go to
Speaker 1: a clothing store and you're just like God, I can
Speaker 1: feel the artistry that went into this mass produced sweater.
Speaker 1: Um not that. I just think our our guest is
Speaker 1: putting putting care into everything that she puts out there.
Speaker 1: And can I tell you something that I realized the
Speaker 1: other day, Me and our guests have made out? What
Speaker 1: we have made out? What are you talking about? And I,
Speaker 1: oh my god, we made out on the set a
Speaker 1: snapchat thing. We know it was a pilot presentation. Oh
Speaker 1: and we played two detectives who the tension was so
Speaker 1: thick in the scene and we made out over a
Speaker 1: dead body. We have to talk about you playing straight?
Speaker 1: I love this. Well. You don't think I'm capable, No,
Speaker 1: I think you're so. I truly seeing I have conversations
Speaker 1: where like Matt is so lucky because he can convincingly
Speaker 1: play straight. You're saying I have yet another privilege, which
Speaker 1: is absolutely you can pass. And that is gorgeous. And
Speaker 1: it's so funny to think of me as someone who
Speaker 1: can pass, because I find my but you can. But
Speaker 1: you you are very good at You have the ability
Speaker 1: to gracefully code switch and go back to Long Island
Speaker 1: and be like fucking brother has gone and to talk
Speaker 1: to let's say, and we love Ken, you know, oh yeah,
Speaker 1: totally no, but I don't talk to him like this,
Speaker 1: but you kid like myself, you could talk to Ken
Speaker 1: like the way you were just talking. Well, if I
Speaker 1: were to talk to him like this right now, like
Speaker 1: he'd be like, truly, what the hell is going on? Yes,
Speaker 1: even this is you're even doing like you're performing it
Speaker 1: too much. You could just split the difference in like
Speaker 1: be like, oh you passed as just just no one
Speaker 1: would clock that anything happening unusually because now you're just
Speaker 1: doing like masks drag, you're doing like zac Efron's us
Speaker 1: anything questions like, well, you know, fully, I don't think
Speaker 1: that's what I'm going but whatever, dude, anyway, if you
Speaker 1: love zac Efron, I see great showman. I would never
Speaker 1: ordinarily see that, but my girlfriendly wanted to go away,
Speaker 1: so we definitely had a good time. It was not good,
Speaker 1: and I like you you can sing or whatever, but
Speaker 1: I still like, I still like him. And when we
Speaker 1: were talking about our guests and it became this just
Speaker 1: sorry to call up the narrative. I know that straight
Speaker 1: guys like you shouldn't be doing that, and you might
Speaker 1: as well be. You might as well be because you
Speaker 1: can pass and that's a privilege and that and you
Speaker 1: try to pass right now? Now, why because you're already white?
Speaker 1: Why not be straight? All right? If if for people listening,
Speaker 1: one of the recurring narratives that's happening right now a
Speaker 1: must culture stuff is that Matt Bowen's white. Is that
Speaker 1: man is accusing me of being I'm not accusing you.
Speaker 1: I'm revealing that you are. He's vituperatively accused of being white?
Speaker 1: What white? Um? A white ty? Yeah? Yeah, just that's white.
Speaker 1: It's an abbreviation for white. Anyway, this isn't about you.
Speaker 1: You've really co opted that. Oh my dad and I
Speaker 1: co op the narrative as a white person. Our guest
Speaker 1: is stunning, stunning, wonderful comedian actress. I think, actually, can
Speaker 1: I say, I think the best actress of all the
Speaker 1: comedians absolutely absolutely stage screen the whole fucking deal. Passion Platt,
Speaker 1: Passigan Platt, my favorite sketch comedy Start from Them, A
Speaker 1: new star of Jo's pub Um and the Ben the public,
Speaker 1: the public and Ben Brantley gave him, gave gave him,
Speaker 1: gave her a standout review. And if Ben Brantley looks
Speaker 1: likes you, then that's everything. It's actually rule of culture
Speaker 1: number eleven. If Ben Brentley likes you, then that's everything.
Speaker 1: Hanging up, honey, hang it up, frame it and um.
Speaker 1: She will have just finished a lovely, lovely running in Munich,
Speaker 1: in Munich for the Radical Youth Festival. Yes, honey, and
Speaker 1: we love her so much. Well, you can follow the
Speaker 1: person at mo pass and that's at m E A
Speaker 1: U x P A S and they are always entertaining
Speaker 1: to play on faux pa mo pa. There you go,
Speaker 1: so please welcome to your's. Our guest Mo Fry passes
Speaker 1: me here. Well, thank you, because so narrated you guys. Okay, well,
Speaker 1: a couple of things you're dress. First of all, the
Speaker 1: only thing they'll be eating off my body is from
Speaker 1: per se O, famously good restaurant in Lincoln Center. Girl,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I just heard of it. People just
Speaker 1: know about person. I don't even know what it's a
Speaker 1: reference for me, is not an experience, and that's why
Speaker 1: not there yet. Reference not an experience. Yeah. And second,
Speaker 1: vituperatiously tuperative. Oh my god, you said that, and I like,
Speaker 1: like my tummy dropped us like a power, you know,
Speaker 1: like just like like aggressive, like toxic noxious. I love
Speaker 1: when you say that's what that means. The tuperative means
Speaker 1: aggressive and toxic. Vituperative just means like just with like bile,
Speaker 1: just like you're white, Like that's what you're doing. I
Speaker 1: have atuperatively white. Yes, it's really good. When you say
Speaker 1: a word, I like, look it up and I'm like,
Speaker 1: I'm going to use that. Yeah, I don't, and then
Speaker 1: I stop using my own words and their words that
Speaker 1: I invent of course. Yeah, um, this has been a
Speaker 1: very long time coming for you to be. Yes, I'm
Speaker 1: so happy to see you two doing your things to
Speaker 1: you in real life because you are famously my sisters
Speaker 1: have been for a lifetime. Were we and we are
Speaker 1: we are part of the Upstate five. I love the
Speaker 1: like like the occasional slight reference like well when we
Speaker 1: went experience and of course the most one of them,
Speaker 1: one of the most iconic stories of the past year
Speaker 1: for me, it was when we were sitting under the
Speaker 1: tree on acid. It was the only sober one there said, Okay,
Speaker 1: so here's what's happening. The spider right there is a
Speaker 1: brown recluse. My name is slander. Okay, here's a thing yourself. Well, okay,
Speaker 1: you know what. Okay, So, first of all, they are
Speaker 1: not indigenous to upstate New York. However, they are there there.
Speaker 1: I believe you that they're there. They are a poison
Speaker 1: You would claim that they are a very poisonous spider.
Speaker 1: And here's what I would claim. I'm not going to
Speaker 1: hold myself to the identification of a brown recluse, but
Speaker 1: I will say that that fucking spider. It was fucking
Speaker 1: eight feet tall. It was very so big, and like
Speaker 1: it was so scary, and it was like underneath and
Speaker 1: it was just like ready to like we were all
Speaker 1: like you looked like um in like um Blue was
Speaker 1: the warmest calling, you know when she's like laying down
Speaker 1: like in boyhood and like laying on the grass and
Speaker 1: all of you looks like so like with the earth.
Speaker 1: And I didn't want that moment to be like all
Speaker 1: of a sudden like and he was like and then
Speaker 1: we all die. I didn't want that. But you calmly
Speaker 1: saved our lives in that That was really calm. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that was very calm of you. And I am truly
Speaker 1: I think the universe every day for how universe for
Speaker 1: how wonderful you were doing that whole experience and how
Speaker 1: you guided it recorded us. That's really nice. That's butter
Speaker 1: was amongst the largest things I've ever seen, the largest.
Speaker 1: It was very it was it was a good girl,
Speaker 1: what are you only an insect person? Here's my thing Wisconsin.
Speaker 1: I grew up. I worked on farms, which is crazy,
Speaker 1: um and it's like I'm so pretty. People don't know it.
Speaker 1: And so I would like like I was like a
Speaker 1: kid that was like the kid that would like be
Speaker 1: muddy and You're like why, And I was like I
Speaker 1: just played like I would catch snakes in the backyard.
Speaker 1: And it's like so weird because I to Madison, but
Speaker 1: my all my relatives lived up north where you could
Speaker 1: just get lost in the wood acres forever. It was
Speaker 1: the best. But you were you a kid that often
Speaker 1: got stung by ship or bitten by things. If I was,
Speaker 1: it didn't affect me, like I definitely have had quite
Speaker 1: a few b and like bites in my life. But
Speaker 1: it would be the kind of situation where it's like
Speaker 1: my name, my full name, insider secret is my full
Speaker 1: name is industry for you? People know that well, they
Speaker 1: are technically the upside five five secret. I haven't seen
Speaker 1: that the way the secret never mind. I was referring
Speaker 1: to the act where joking players Gypsy roes and she's
Speaker 1: like with Patrici Arquette and it's like a right, right,
Speaker 1: right yes vehicle. But it's called the act vehicle because
Speaker 1: I'm very in it's basically Gypsy but with a kid
Speaker 1: who so, no, it's Gypsy. It's the Gypsy Road story.
Speaker 1: It's literally it is. And then like Joey King is like, mom,
Speaker 1: it must go to the movies today, and You're like,
Speaker 1: whoa damn she her was? Her voice is so low
Speaker 1: in person, I'm like, come on, voice over work. Wow,
Speaker 1: I didn't know that. Okay, Wow, I got I'm a fan.
Speaker 1: I will yeah, I will say, um, I don't keep
Speaker 1: a thought going straight, So I don't remember what we're
Speaker 1: talking about before we talking about being bitten and sucked
Speaker 1: on by insects. Oh yeah, Like it would be like Morgan,
Speaker 1: what's that? And I would like have a huge rash.
Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't know, I'm just gonna play. Well,
Speaker 1: So you were an outside girl because I rode horses.
Speaker 1: I like we had like sheep and we didn't like
Speaker 1: not in like our house, but we'd like staying like
Speaker 1: babysit our friends sheep and like it was wow cool.
Speaker 1: I was an outside kid. I was not an outside kid.
Speaker 1: You not. I read and I played video games. I
Speaker 1: emotionally identify as an indoor kid, but in reality you were. Okay,
Speaker 1: you were an outside kid's son and a kid moon
Speaker 1: Oh I love that. Yeah, Okay, here's the thing. Famously
Speaker 1: famously drags astrology. But okay, we talked about this with astrology.
Speaker 1: Thing tenderly creeps towards it. You are Now I'm starting
Speaker 1: to creep towards it in a fun way. I'm not
Speaker 1: fully with with what with affection and not total rejection.
Speaker 1: I used to just reject it completely, and now I'm
Speaker 1: just like, oh, this is fun, this is fun. It's
Speaker 1: fun to project these certain things onto what this could
Speaker 1: mean and what what my you know, what my? What
Speaker 1: are they called? Your? My transits are and are a
Speaker 1: lot to learn. Well. Ruby said that it's very scorpio
Speaker 1: to be rejecting astrology and why because I've heard this
Speaker 1: from so many people that I don't what what what
Speaker 1: is it? Answer? Um, I would say Scorpios what they
Speaker 1: are is they're they're very protective of themselves and also
Speaker 1: they're very um they want to learn experientially, so like
Speaker 1: they don't immediately trust you on your word, right, So
Speaker 1: if you tell them something about themselves, so like sure,
Speaker 1: I'm sure you think that, and it's like they won't
Speaker 1: believe that until they've experienced proof for themselves, because it
Speaker 1: is very mysterious, closed off solo sort of experience intensity.
Speaker 1: So if someone's telling you like that's so Scarpia, or
Speaker 1: you're like, well, don't put me in a box and
Speaker 1: you don't know me, so, like it's that short of energy,
Speaker 1: but you never combat that way. That's internal because Scarpios
Speaker 1: aren't about to waste their time explaining that to someone
Speaker 1: I see, you know what that really reads, not going
Speaker 1: to waste their time on complex they think or beneath
Speaker 1: them very much. Whereas whereas you and I trepetously saying that,
Speaker 1: whereas you and I are Pisces and that makes us
Speaker 1: sort of like v emotion. You know, what I'll say
Speaker 1: is that the manifestation of a Pisces is very dependent
Speaker 1: on their moon and rising because Pisces are the twelfth sign,
Speaker 1: so they technically embody all the signs. So it's like
Speaker 1: the oldest sign Areas is the first of the youngest
Speaker 1: there hoth hut it, whereas like Pisces is twelve or
Speaker 1: more versatil and um. So the idea of this, Pisces
Speaker 1: takes on identities really well and can move through other
Speaker 1: people's emotions and can pass. And so would you say
Speaker 1: that Pisces are often empathetic, Well, yeah, it's one of
Speaker 1: their training. It's one of the things. It's sometimes debilitating.
Speaker 1: I will say that, especially for you, who is a
Speaker 1: rising cancer Pisces moon, is it, I'm all water water
Speaker 1: water water water you cancer Moon, Pisces, Yes, I am um.
Speaker 1: And so for you, it is also very hard for
Speaker 1: you to look at something objectively because you are deep
Speaker 1: in the emotions of it. So factually and objectively looking
Speaker 1: at something you're like. But that's but doesn't matter what
Speaker 1: the facts are. I feel this way. I don't like Okay,
Speaker 1: I don't know my words, but I know my heart
Speaker 1: you know, Oh my god, I know it's tying it
Speaker 1: back to well coming to me now is godh wow.
Speaker 1: There are things I never do it again. All it
Speaker 1: seems right. That is a very pisy song. Sure, and
Speaker 1: it's because it's so emotional and big. Wouldn't you agree?
Speaker 1: I would agree. Yeah, that song paints with a very
Speaker 1: emotional brush. It's it's like, you know what it is,
Speaker 1: it's a brush that you painted before, then you didn't clean.
Speaker 1: Then it got hard and you're like it's okay, and
Speaker 1: then you like try to soften it again and then
Speaker 1: oh my god, that is psychic. Psychic. No, what are
Speaker 1: your what are your rising in? Because you are the
Speaker 1: astrology queen. I mean, here's my thing. The fun thing
Speaker 1: about this is like I never like sought out astrology.
Speaker 1: I just like it. Just like it. It's just me.
Speaker 1: And over the years I've gotten a lot of info. Um,
Speaker 1: I am a Libra moon, like other podcast going, I
Speaker 1: am a Libra moon and I am a cancer rising.
Speaker 1: So internally, which is the moon? Wait? I lied, stupid, stupid,
Speaker 1: big you lied twice. You said you are a geminal
Speaker 1: Oh scary, and then you were like I got my
Speaker 1: moon and risings fucked up? Psychotic aboutely, we're rising okay?
Speaker 1: Well fashion score and then Gemini moon. You are Gemini moons,
Speaker 1: which is very Gemini moon of me to lie, I
Speaker 1: guess okay, so sorry I cut you off. Okay, so
Speaker 1: that's just my chart. But you you talking about you
Speaker 1: because because we're on you. But your moon's in the
Speaker 1: ninth house, which I'll say is like sagittarian. So you're
Speaker 1: very like teacher um, you know, learning, adventure, expansive, spiritual
Speaker 1: like as far as your moon and how you process emotions. Yes, okay,
Speaker 1: most looking at my chart right now. And co Star
Speaker 1: you just had your chart like ready to go. It's
Speaker 1: on the ends on the app. Okay, I need to
Speaker 1: get this app? Is it? This is the thing mough.
Speaker 1: I will say this, I probably like a lot of
Speaker 1: the listeners um with astrology, and I know you because
Speaker 1: I was first. I was first to come around to this,
Speaker 1: and now Bowen has come around to it, and Sudie,
Speaker 1: I don't think we'll ever come around. She'll she'll have
Speaker 1: her moments. She'll have her moment shell she has. She
Speaker 1: and I wrote a whole sketch about astrology. When I
Speaker 1: got to watch it, you want to watch it in
Speaker 1: my heart it got cut for time, but it's great
Speaker 1: that it felt important to me. But we were very
Speaker 1: rejective with it. I love because it was just it
Speaker 1: was it was Don Cheatle and it was so good.
Speaker 1: He was like so on board and he was just
Speaker 1: like your Mars much being Sagittarius, and I was like,
Speaker 1: you're so happy he was. He was truly the best
Speaker 1: and I love him. And there wasn't it was an
Speaker 1: astrology sketch future. It was so it was it wasn't
Speaker 1: explained for the listeners because they'll never know. It takes
Speaker 1: place in a veterinary office and Cecilian Don and Heidi
Speaker 1: play the receptionist and they're all like and they're like
Speaker 1: calling up these these dogs and these cats and these
Speaker 1: lizards with their owners, and they're like, look at peep
Speaker 1: the chart. Oh that's a that is a Gemini, like
Speaker 1: wanna get her out of here? Like that kind of
Speaker 1: animals and there live animals and the animals um Pete
Speaker 1: had to hold a giant lizard and he was very scared.
Speaker 1: And when I had and I talked to Pete down,
Speaker 1: he was scared to hold the lizard. I get that.
Speaker 1: I don't trust almost nearly any animals, nearly animals. Dogs.
Speaker 1: I really enjoyed domestic dogs because you know their power
Speaker 1: and you respect that. I would say, I know their
Speaker 1: power to be unpredictable. There is a dog in the
Speaker 1: writer's room at the other two whose name is Gus.
Speaker 1: It's Kristen kristin bubbles dog. Gus is important to me,
Speaker 1: and that dog and I have a deep connection, and
Speaker 1: I posted about the dog frequently, and the gusts of
Speaker 1: it all has really kind of taken over my life.
Speaker 1: In fact, I feel a connection to him so much
Speaker 1: so that when I walk into the room often the
Speaker 1: dog will run up to me very excited to see me,
Speaker 1: and it doesn't do that with everyone else. That's a
Speaker 1: powerful moment. That's always my dream, is like I want
Speaker 1: people's dogs to like like me better than them. I'm like,
Speaker 1: oh gosh, so sorry, Like like, I don't want people
Speaker 1: like something I wouldn't hate if a kid like cried
Speaker 1: if it was taken away from me, you know, but
Speaker 1: I don't want to hold it too long, right right right?
Speaker 1: You came home with me for Thanksgiving, so Chelsea's end
Speaker 1: in was Moyes and you were ahead. You were a
Speaker 1: huge In fact, when I told them today, I spoke
Speaker 1: with them this morning and they said happy Easter, because
Speaker 1: today is used to recording on Easter, and they wanted
Speaker 1: to wish you happy Easter, and they said that it
Speaker 1: wasn't it didn't feel right having a holiday without you.
Speaker 1: Let me tell you experiencing Thanksgiving, Rod it was. It
Speaker 1: was home, really nice, good time. It had like, you know,
Speaker 1: the feeling of home like it was that it was
Speaker 1: so wonderful. It was really nice. Oh my gosh, but
Speaker 1: just they couldn't stop talking all of it. It was
Speaker 1: the best. We had a really good time and also
Speaker 1: had a really great connection with Bailey, my dog. And
Speaker 1: Bailey got a jacket that day that was huge. Billy
Speaker 1: Um wears a stress coats because Bailey is a very
Speaker 1: stressed out gets very stressed out and Billy I love
Speaker 1: Bailey though. Bailey is one of the top dogs. Bailey
Speaker 1: is so crazy. I love your family on Instagram. They
Speaker 1: are they you know, they never did Facebook, but they
Speaker 1: like and stuff and their stars and their stars and Instant.
Speaker 1: My dad always has a amazing post. I mean, it's
Speaker 1: a great post. There's a really good picture of my
Speaker 1: mom holding Bailey with her wind in her hair that
Speaker 1: my dad and I'm like, they can do instant what
Speaker 1: they can do instant, they know how to do it
Speaker 1: because it's a visual medium. My dad is like, uh,
Speaker 1: just like a mathematician genius and like a surgeon. Like
Speaker 1: he embodies that, but he's very dry in his humor.
Speaker 1: And his entire instagram is pictures of equational days, which
Speaker 1: is when the date makes an equation. Oh my god,
Speaker 1: so funny. It's the most just like, speak up. He's
Speaker 1: Virgo virga rizing, which is anyone saying is it's a
Speaker 1: very Virgo thing, um, but him and Beyonce A. Brandon,
Speaker 1: I mean truly just to have like a methodical, cleaned
Speaker 1: up like specific and stuff that's like this is my identity.
Speaker 1: It's like awesome, I love it. It's the best. Now
Speaker 1: let's get back to this. Okay. So I'm sorry. You
Speaker 1: said you are your libra cancer rising. So your moon
Speaker 1: is how you like. I don't know if Ruby went
Speaker 1: over this with you, but process emotions, it's internal. So
Speaker 1: what they say when you feel most yourself, like when
Speaker 1: you're alone, it's your moon sign that you feel like,
Speaker 1: so when someone's coming at you with like your scarbio,
Speaker 1: it must be so mysterious and water, you're like, actually,
Speaker 1: not that emotional. And then people are like, no, you're
Speaker 1: aligned to yourself. You're like no, m a Gemini moon
Speaker 1: like I actually I take if your feelings don't make sense,
Speaker 1: I don't like them, you know, like it's just like
Speaker 1: that sort of thing. And so I think there is
Speaker 1: a lot of value in investing in your moon and raising.
Speaker 1: Is there a sign that I, as a Pisces and
Speaker 1: you as a Pisces need to watch out for? Um,
Speaker 1: Here's what I'll saying. I don't think, and I think
Speaker 1: that there is an answer. By the way you're you're
Speaker 1: answering so far, I think you're going to be scared
Speaker 1: to say, but I think that there is a sign
Speaker 1: being a Scenarios, Mars and Gemini, I'm scared to say nothing.
Speaker 1: So so what I'll say is, I personally don't like
Speaker 1: in a chart any concentration of one sign which is
Speaker 1: also called a stallium, which is just like to me,
Speaker 1: and I need someone who has more balance and flex
Speaker 1: stability ak mutable signs or cardinal signs. I'm like, if
Speaker 1: someone has a ton of fixed just not for me,
Speaker 1: I love that about them, and that's a trap. What
Speaker 1: does that mean? A ton of fixed like fixed signs
Speaker 1: are like I believe they're like like aquarious Leo and
Speaker 1: one other similar to the ideas of like you m
Speaker 1: more mutable, you're more fixed, like you know, you know,
Speaker 1: you're more steadfast, you're you are who you are. Yeah, yeah, mutable,
Speaker 1: you're more just like sure, both things could be true,
Speaker 1: and um cardinal is like um more just like I
Speaker 1: don't know. I like cardinal their libra areas in cancer
Speaker 1: and they're just more I don't know to me there,
Speaker 1: it's more like the adult perspective of everything. It's like, well,
Speaker 1: both could be true, but I'm going to choose this,
Speaker 1: and scorpio is fixed. Yes, Okay, I have a lot
Speaker 1: of one sign in my chart which makes me feel
Speaker 1: like you feel. I'm afraid of you. You fear me,
Speaker 1: fear me and they I fear your power, and I
Speaker 1: fear how wonderful and larger you're going to be, because bitch,
Speaker 1: ye to be a huge girlfriend. Do you think that
Speaker 1: I shouldn't need to marry a virgo? Okay, here's us.
Speaker 1: I've been told you've been repeating it, but that's because
Speaker 1: I'm desperate to find someone. And on what's your signs?
Speaker 1: Shout out to what's your sign? Yeah, and they said
Speaker 1: I'll marry a virgo? What's what say you? What say
Speaker 1: me is that you know, not everybody is their emotional
Speaker 1: heightened version of their signs. There are low and evolved,
Speaker 1: like you know, there's two aspects. So what I'll say
Speaker 1: is there you're you can marry someone with a virgo
Speaker 1: fucking Mars and Venus. They don't have to be a
Speaker 1: virgo son, you know what I'm saying. I know, not
Speaker 1: as long as they have a Virgo in the chart.
Speaker 1: But so what you're saying is I'm taking it to
Speaker 1: you seriously. I think your your attachment to needing an
Speaker 1: answer is blocking blocking it from coming in. Oh my god,
Speaker 1: there it is. My attachment to needing an answer is
Speaker 1: blocking it from coming in. That makes a lot of
Speaker 1: sense to me. Nice, And this is a classic thing
Speaker 1: in the therapy. This is a classic thing in therapy
Speaker 1: that my therapist is like, there's you. You are obsessed
Speaker 1: with thinking about things in terms of the right way
Speaker 1: and wrong thing to handle something, and you should stop
Speaker 1: doing that. There's this Egyptian goddess of called Boss. It's
Speaker 1: like the goddess of cats, which is also the goddess
Speaker 1: of fairness, and the idea of fairness to her is
Speaker 1: not right or wrong, but a favorable outcome for all.
Speaker 1: And so it's about really releasing what you believe justices
Speaker 1: and separating the difference between fairness and justice. Oh wow,
Speaker 1: that's gorgeous. It's hard. It's a hard lesson to learn
Speaker 1: in life because we get really ingrained and we hold
Speaker 1: these certain you know, injustices as offenses to our identity
Speaker 1: instead of realizing that there is just like one step
Speaker 1: outside the situation. I want to talk about this mo Tammy,
Speaker 1: this thing called bottom beliefs that I just really want
Speaker 1: to quickly talk about before we before we ask the question. No,
Speaker 1: I don't even know what bottom beliefs is. So this
Speaker 1: is this, explain it to me like an idiot. Okay,
Speaker 1: this is I'm I'm gonna do the dumb idiot explanation,
Speaker 1: and then Mom is going to actually is going to
Speaker 1: film the film bottom Beliefs. Bottom beliefs. You name a
Speaker 1: belief that you have about something, usually and it's helpful
Speaker 1: if it's a destructive belief or if it's the belief
Speaker 1: that's like sort of holding you back in some way.
Speaker 1: Like I'll say, like, um, I believe that the gate
Speaker 1: like this is something that I've gotten over recently that
Speaker 1: I've I've made progress on I believe that the Gate
Speaker 1: community is racist towards Asians. And then and then you
Speaker 1: get to the body, you just basically keep bottoming out
Speaker 1: and nesting that belief. Well why do you think that
Speaker 1: because I think, um that Asians are like Asian males
Speaker 1: are sort of emasculated in Western culture. Well why do
Speaker 1: you believe that? Because I believe that, Um uh, you know,
Speaker 1: we value European standards of beauty. Well why do you
Speaker 1: believe that? Because and then you just keep basically digging
Speaker 1: to the bottom of until you can't explain it away anymore. Um,
Speaker 1: that's kind of a crazy example. But like, I what's
Speaker 1: the value in this. It's just to get to the
Speaker 1: root of why you think, you like, what this belief is,
Speaker 1: and then you just realize that, like, and this is
Speaker 1: something I've told you is that, and I've talked about
Speaker 1: probably on some other episodes, is that, like any destructive
Speaker 1: belief is just a string of words, and language is
Speaker 1: just a way to contain a concept that otherwise would
Speaker 1: not even exist mental in our thought, in our thoughts. Basically,
Speaker 1: we wouldn't think about um, you know, let's say I
Speaker 1: wouldn't think about Ah being gay, if being if if
Speaker 1: the word gay didn't exist to contain that whole experience.
Speaker 1: So like that's like like the only the only real
Speaker 1: thing is numbers. That and that that and so you
Speaker 1: have said this up State five, the only real thing
Speaker 1: is numbers. And both times they've tripped on acid, that's
Speaker 1: been the thing. The only real thing is numbers, Henry,
Speaker 1: Henry Caperskie, that's the same thing he says, the only
Speaker 1: real thing is numbers. Er. I had a special moment
Speaker 1: where he was talking about like prime and then we're like,
Speaker 1: you're in your prime when you're you're winning with your
Speaker 1: in alignment, you're in your prime. You're in your prime.
Speaker 1: And prime numbers only whole within itself. And that's and
Speaker 1: that's the whole meaning of it. Um. And so anyway,
Speaker 1: and you're and you're basically doing that with bottom beliefs.
Speaker 1: Is you're basically dividing a thought, a belief into itself
Speaker 1: until you cannot reduce it to to whatever its whole is.
Speaker 1: I mean, Bone did amazing job describing I don't know
Speaker 1: you really did. Um. The idea is, you know, especially
Speaker 1: if you have trauma, and I believe all of us
Speaker 1: in the queer community have trauma, even if you don't
Speaker 1: want to identifies, you know, having done that, this is
Speaker 1: like you're already a deficit. But and I don't mean
Speaker 1: that in a you know, yeah, I got it. So
Speaker 1: what I'll say is what happens then is a lot
Speaker 1: of beliefs come from one bottom belief. So it's like,
Speaker 1: say your belief, your bottom belief is I'm unworthy of love, right,
Speaker 1: But you might not realize that that's the bottom belief
Speaker 1: because there's all these other things floating around if just
Speaker 1: guys don't like me, or I'm too much, I'm annoying,
Speaker 1: or I'm embarrassing, or I talked too much, and all
Speaker 1: these little chatters, right are little like stems off this
Speaker 1: one bottom fucking belief. So you can deal with the
Speaker 1: fact that you're an embarrassment or whatever it's because you're
Speaker 1: not right even though that thought bubbles up, but you're
Speaker 1: still not addressing the root problem at the bottom. So
Speaker 1: what happens is a new one grows and so you
Speaker 1: can like try and like get through it, but you don't.
Speaker 1: So this really helped me when I was processing a
Speaker 1: lot of trauma, because I would get really anxious and
Speaker 1: really embarrassed about something, and you know, I'd wake up
Speaker 1: in the morning I'm like, oh my god, I was
Speaker 1: the worst personal I would find new friends. I'm so embarrassing.
Speaker 1: I'm the worst personal life. It's like, okay, so it's
Speaker 1: you know what, where, when? Why? Or what's the worst thing?
Speaker 1: What happened about that? So it'd be like, oh, well,
Speaker 1: I'm the worst personal life. Okay, what's the worst part
Speaker 1: about that? Well, um, nobody likes me because I'm the worst? Okay,
Speaker 1: Well why are you the worst? Because um, I'm really
Speaker 1: I talked too much? Okay, Well what's the worst part
Speaker 1: about talking too much? That I could annoy someone? Okay,
Speaker 1: well what's the worst part about annoying someone? Um, then
Speaker 1: then they won't love me? Well, why wouldn't they love you?
Speaker 1: Because I'm unlovable? Whoa? And then you get to this
Speaker 1: bottom believe of like ship And then when I get
Speaker 1: to the bottom, what I like to do? And a
Speaker 1: lot of times if you have blocked memories, it doesn't work.
Speaker 1: But you just have to sit with that feeling of
Speaker 1: just like, first of all, I feel it in my body.
Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, is that my tummy? Is that my heart,
Speaker 1: like where is that? And then I say, do I
Speaker 1: remember where this started? And you might not. It might
Speaker 1: go to some weird, random like high school memory where
Speaker 1: like someone rejected you. But like if that's what manifests
Speaker 1: in your mind, then then you like you sit with
Speaker 1: that and then you just truly like work through that moment.
Speaker 1: Maybe you cry, maybe a punch a pillow, but you
Speaker 1: release that bottom belief this has helped you immensely, Oh
Speaker 1: my gosh. And it's something simple, and I'm sure there's
Speaker 1: so many ways in psychology and therapy that it manifests
Speaker 1: right for people to do this, and there's anyways, but
Speaker 1: for me, for you, yeah, I've really found that, like
Speaker 1: finding a core source of something has cut it off.
Speaker 1: It's it's weeding, you know, you have to get Yes,
Speaker 1: I had like a weird um date the other night,
Speaker 1: and then the day after, I woke up an hour
Speaker 1: before I usually it, and my chest was like I
Speaker 1: felt so anxious, and I swear to God, I did
Speaker 1: not know why, like it didn't go the way I
Speaker 1: wanted it to. And I woke up in the morning
Speaker 1: and I, yeah, it's just like the next day, I
Speaker 1: was like, I feel horrible and I literally could not
Speaker 1: answer the question why, and so that is something I
Speaker 1: will use from that one because I had never heard
Speaker 1: of this, Like I think conceptually I knew what this was,
Speaker 1: but that sounds like it really helped. And bitch, a
Speaker 1: concept needs a fucking it's the linguistic thing. If you
Speaker 1: need the word before you to understand the concept. It's
Speaker 1: like I feel anxious, Like why do you think you
Speaker 1: feel anxious? Because I had a date last night that
Speaker 1: didn't go well? Okay, well what about it didn't go well?
Speaker 1: We didn't have sex? Why did Why did you not
Speaker 1: have sex? Because it didn't feel like there was chemistry there?
Speaker 1: Are you describing? Where are you putting value on the sex? Yeah? Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's another interesting question. I guess that that's something. That's
Speaker 1: another question I have is it's like, how do you
Speaker 1: know when you're get taking it off track? The bottom
Speaker 1: beliefs thing? What's the question you're supposed to ask every
Speaker 1: single time? What's the worst thing about that? I mean
Speaker 1: that helps me. What I'd say is, first of all,
Speaker 1: especially for you, if you're like already weeding through a lot,
Speaker 1: I like to feel it in my body, right, so
Speaker 1: then I don't net in the very policy, but you
Speaker 1: don't might not have the words right, so you're like, okay,
Speaker 1: my tell me her. It's like, you know, what is
Speaker 1: that feeling down there? What is that base sacred sort
Speaker 1: of feeling? And it's just like, you know, what do
Speaker 1: I associate with that gut? I trust? Okay, well I
Speaker 1: don't trust. Why didn't I trust? You know you can
Speaker 1: do that. But when you get to a bottom, it's
Speaker 1: pretty simple, is what I'd say. You know what, I
Speaker 1: just really discovered something about myself even just saying that,
Speaker 1: which is that I make a lot of things about sex. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so like maybe like my value is sex and that
Speaker 1: might be your bottom belief and that's something that's important
Speaker 1: for you to work through, and recognizing it is already
Speaker 1: helping it, you know, move like like I don't know
Speaker 1: I'm talking to me about this, Like being like in
Speaker 1: Los Angeles now in a new city, you're meeting a
Speaker 1: whole bunch of new gay men or people like like
Speaker 1: that you could have relationships with. And something I'm finding
Speaker 1: is a block is like I can't get over this
Speaker 1: thing of like I like sometimes the first thing I
Speaker 1: think when I look at someone is like, am I
Speaker 1: attracted them. Are they attracted to me? Like that is
Speaker 1: like something that like I don't know, it's like, for
Speaker 1: some reason, a preoccupying thing. Do you guys have that? Um? Yeah,
Speaker 1: although yeah, but you feel that it's different. Well, it's
Speaker 1: it's just different. Like if I were to move to
Speaker 1: l A, I I would meet those people and I
Speaker 1: would imagine that they just the interest wouldn't be I
Speaker 1: wouldn't have anything to work off and just be like, Okay,
Speaker 1: well most of these people probably would not want to
Speaker 1: I think everyone's is, you know, whatever your wound is,
Speaker 1: like mine would be. If I met all these people,
Speaker 1: I would assume all of them were to me, and
Speaker 1: I would instantly reject them because I don't like that energy.
Speaker 1: So like everyone is sort of filtering through the lens
Speaker 1: of their trauma, you know. So that's for you and
Speaker 1: for me, it's just I would meet these people and
Speaker 1: be like, you're probably not attracted to me, And I
Speaker 1: think my thing is when I meet these people, I think, well, well,
Speaker 1: I don't know, Like it's it's when you grow up
Speaker 1: and everyone's like, okay, this is maybe gonna be a lot.
Speaker 1: But like when you grow up and you're told like
Speaker 1: you're so handsome. You're so handsome, like like this is
Speaker 1: something that you're given since you're a little kid, and
Speaker 1: you're told to ascribe value to that and please understand,
Speaker 1: I know this is like a very privileged thing to say.
Speaker 1: But then when you get into a community that's so
Speaker 1: obviously prizes like the only the top physical specimens, and
Speaker 1: you've been cultured to believe that your attractiveness is one
Speaker 1: of the best things about you and like one of
Speaker 1: the most important things about you that could make you
Speaker 1: feel worthless. And I think that's why like a lot
Speaker 1: of people who you would think wouldn't necessarily be self conscious,
Speaker 1: like at parties like that warehouse party went to in
Speaker 1: l A, like a lot I think everyone there is
Speaker 1: like freaking out. And we would all tell you if
Speaker 1: we were all honest and telling each other, like I'm
Speaker 1: freaking out? Are you freaking out? You look at people
Speaker 1: and be like you're freaking out? What do you mean?
Speaker 1: But it's like you know, and so I think, like
Speaker 1: something I'm literally discovered and like in this and like
Speaker 1: I think I knew this is just I put a
Speaker 1: lot of importance on like my sexual capital in certain
Speaker 1: situations because I feel like it's a way in I
Speaker 1: don't know, Hetty not petty. Well, you think you have
Speaker 1: to reprogram a lot of ship like I have to. Well,
Speaker 1: I think, yes, I think you need things. I mean
Speaker 1: therapy right, like we do. There's value and breathwork, there's
Speaker 1: value in you know, exercise, like there is things that
Speaker 1: we do have to do to release these things that
Speaker 1: we shouldn't have been drilled with. But you know, like
Speaker 1: it is a big dog time. You know, you're an adult,
Speaker 1: it's time to grab that and be like you know what, bitch,
Speaker 1: I don't feel good. This doesn't make me feel good.
Speaker 1: Like I left that party and like I think, I think.
Speaker 1: I texted like you and Dave and I was like
Speaker 1: is it insane that I just left this place? Like
Speaker 1: why I? And then someone's like no, when you figure
Speaker 1: out something is not for you, that's it, like you
Speaker 1: can take yourself out of a situation. I think I
Speaker 1: was telling you, well, I was telling you. I was
Speaker 1: talking to you from a place of like, yeah, I've
Speaker 1: known this to be I think you have. And it's
Speaker 1: just like as I walk into that space and I'm
Speaker 1: already like okay, like this isn't for me. I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna really be like, this is not a place where
Speaker 1: I'm going to stand out in any positive way. So
Speaker 1: I'll just like let that go and just like buy
Speaker 1: a fucking huge slice of watermelon and take that into
Speaker 1: the warehouse and eat watermelon while while the lights are strubing,
Speaker 1: and I had a great time. But it's also but yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, I but that beliefs, but that is like
Speaker 1: but that that like the way that you sort of
Speaker 1: reckon with that situation is card and it's and it's
Speaker 1: and it's tough, and do you, like, do you understand
Speaker 1: what I'm saying? I totally get what you're saying. I
Speaker 1: get what are you kidding? It is a huge life
Speaker 1: lesson to realize that, like, you don't have to be
Speaker 1: putting yourself in these situations where you feel judged or
Speaker 1: in inadequate or you know, not worthy, right, and you're
Speaker 1: not anything less for not being in those situations. It's
Speaker 1: an interest to concept this. I mean, you know what
Speaker 1: I say, I think, um, all of the people in
Speaker 1: our lives and like all the people listening like all
Speaker 1: really want a lot for themselves in their lives. But
Speaker 1: what that means is really facing hard things about yourself
Speaker 1: head on so you can move through them and be
Speaker 1: the thing you want to be. Yes, or they're just
Speaker 1: they're just has to be this. And I'm not saying that,
Speaker 1: like some people don't have this, but there has to
Speaker 1: be this recursive thing in you, this mechanism that tells
Speaker 1: you I should address this and change, because then they're
Speaker 1: they're just because well, there are some people who don't
Speaker 1: have that, who do not want to change. And that's it.
Speaker 1: And I literally told you in a bit you way recently.
Speaker 1: I was like, well, you should examine this thing about you.
Speaker 1: And but that's just me, that's just me saying like,
Speaker 1: you know, but it was about this. It was literally
Speaker 1: about it. It It was do you know about the former
Speaker 1: congressman Aaron Shock. So he was like he was in Illinois.
Speaker 1: He's in Illinois, and he was very anti gay Republican.
Speaker 1: But rumors started right so young and like uh conventionally attractive,
Speaker 1: in fact muscular and was even on the cover of
Speaker 1: like some like men's fitness magazines like to the to
Speaker 1: that extent, and he was like kind of like a
Speaker 1: star Republican because he was like young and like hot
Speaker 1: and like still held their beliefs got cat accepting bribes
Speaker 1: and he had to leave in disgrace, decorated his office
Speaker 1: inspired by down and they were starts about him being gay.
Speaker 1: So that has been confirmed. Like in the past few months,
Speaker 1: he's just been very out in West Hollywood, like around
Speaker 1: and now he's not in Congress anymore. He's just doing whatever,
Speaker 1: and like he is very much like a figure like
Speaker 1: on the scene. And he was at Coachella, and pictures
Speaker 1: of him making out with guys and like doing whatever
Speaker 1: and like very much doing the whole Coachella thing came out,
Speaker 1: and so all of a sudden there was all this
Speaker 1: talk about him again. Meanwhile, he had been like on
Speaker 1: the scene in West Hollywood for months, but the Coachella
Speaker 1: pictures really made it like a viral talking point on Twitter.
Speaker 1: And but wait, has this person talked back their rhetoric
Speaker 1: from because that's like so that's why people got mad.
Speaker 1: They were like they were like normally, like all these
Speaker 1: gay media outlets were like normally we would never right,
Speaker 1: Like that is a very personal thing. But for someone
Speaker 1: who has destructively acted against the queer community, I mean,
Speaker 1: like we have no we have no problem, like just
Speaker 1: shining a line on this, Yeah, because there's a difference
Speaker 1: between you know, you know, putting out your internalized misogyny
Speaker 1: outwardly like that happens. That's unfortunate, it's sad. It's a
Speaker 1: cycle of abuse. It's a cycle of that like to
Speaker 1: use to gain power and then to use that power
Speaker 1: against lesser powerfully people and then to be like basically
Speaker 1: I'm going to say for a certain section, for an
Speaker 1: important section of the queer community to be accepted and embraced.
Speaker 1: That's the absolutely I mean. And that's the thing is
Speaker 1: it's like if he didn't look the way he looked,
Speaker 1: there wouldn't even get discussion, Like Larry Craig. Larry Craig happened.
Speaker 1: Everyone was like by everyone yep. And because here was
Speaker 1: no place for him in the gay knew there's a
Speaker 1: there's a place for Aaron Shock in the game. And
Speaker 1: that is something I think that that that's I'm almost
Speaker 1: I'm happy that it's a conversation because I think it's
Speaker 1: something that the gay community truly needs to discuss. Is
Speaker 1: why we let people like this get away with whatever
Speaker 1: they want. Um. But what happened was I was seeing
Speaker 1: it go viral on Twitter, and I almost even tweeted like, uh,
Speaker 1: why don't we ignore this person actually instead of retweeting
Speaker 1: this picture, Like I was like getting annoyed that we
Speaker 1: were retweeting it so much. I'm like, okay, like we're this,
Speaker 1: We're still circulating like this photo this person. And then
Speaker 1: I realized I actually had been following him on Instagram,
Speaker 1: like unbeknownst to me, and somebody took a screenshot of
Speaker 1: the fact that I was following him and posted on
Speaker 1: and Bowen texted me and he was like, are you
Speaker 1: following Aaron Shock on Instagram? And I was like no,
Speaker 1: And then I realized I was, and I was like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, I am but I didn't realize and
Speaker 1: I'm I followed him immediately, etcetera. And he was like
Speaker 1: I took a moment to be disappointed in my friends,
Speaker 1: and I was just like, how do I I was like,
Speaker 1: what do I? What do I say them? Like the
Speaker 1: person I care most about in this whole world? I
Speaker 1: was like, I was like, and it came off in
Speaker 1: the way that it comes off when I say things sometimes.
Speaker 1: It was just a little mean and snarky and whatever.
Speaker 1: I was just like, well, maybe you examine it, which
Speaker 1: I mean is you know what I mean, we even
Speaker 1: zoom out, like here's what I'll say, is this the
Speaker 1: gay community is facing this intersectionally which has been you know,
Speaker 1: like you know, black girls don't get their photo when
Speaker 1: their kidnapsticking, and then they have women who are not
Speaker 1: pretty enough when they're assaulted that they don't get coverage.
Speaker 1: And it is like this huge problem where it is
Speaker 1: like based in the beauty values of like young straight
Speaker 1: white ciss women. And then I feel like that's permeating
Speaker 1: out and these it's applying, it's you know, reactingting in
Speaker 1: all these different ways, and we all I don't know,
Speaker 1: it's just I'm like, let's all figure out together. I think.
Speaker 1: I think it's like for our like I wish it
Speaker 1: like I don't wish it could, but like for our
Speaker 1: community that it presents an interesting topic of conversation. It
Speaker 1: just it's honestly going to come down to whether the
Speaker 1: people that need to change or need to make changes
Speaker 1: are gonna want to talk about this, Like are they
Speaker 1: actually gonna is my favorite metaphor of analogy seminarly Um Okay,
Speaker 1: So this is what I believe with all like and
Speaker 1: I believe we're doing this, and we've been doing this,
Speaker 1: but like with when it comes to activism, okay, So
Speaker 1: after I think it was like on all the Grammys, Um,
Speaker 1: Katy Perry was having a party at one Oak okay, okay,
Speaker 1: and she was playing horrible music and it was not
Speaker 1: good music. Bitch is fucking jail. Oh my god. And
Speaker 1: so I think I've told you this more that, and
Speaker 1: so Dalo rises to all of her friends, right, music bad,
Speaker 1: all our friends. You know, it's like the hob knob situation,
Speaker 1: like you want to stay there, you want to see
Speaker 1: and be seen. And so Jilo is like, I'm not
Speaker 1: having fun. Jula doesn't say everyone, let's go. Jaylor doesn't
Speaker 1: say I'm done, let's shut this party down. Jaila just
Speaker 1: leaves and guess what that confidence that's standing in that
Speaker 1: and everybody fucking followed j Lo. It's okay. I mentioned
Speaker 1: this on the Culture. It's that d agent thing. M h,
Speaker 1: this is okay. Can I can I tell you this
Speaker 1: is a similar morning. There's this book that I right now.
Speaker 1: It's very I'm recommending it to everyone. I'm telling everyone
Speaker 1: it's very new age language. But it's the writer, Martha
Speaker 1: Beck is very self aware, and she's very she's got
Speaker 1: solid jokes, solid has she she can she can fit
Speaker 1: into any room solids. But she um, she has this
Speaker 1: d D A agent friend who instead of kicking down
Speaker 1: doors and a drug rate and holding up a gun,
Speaker 1: we'll just find a way to sneak. We'll find a
Speaker 1: way to enter the space and just walk in and
Speaker 1: just calmly sit down in front of the people, the
Speaker 1: people in there, and he'll just be like and ms
Speaker 1: her this and mats her this, and and then the
Speaker 1: people are just like confused, but not fully. They're startled,
Speaker 1: but not like alarmed because normally, like they'd run away
Speaker 1: if it was like gun was being held to their
Speaker 1: you know, like pointing in the direction. But they're just
Speaker 1: like startled and they're confused, like who is this person?
Speaker 1: And then after like a moment, this agent just is like,
Speaker 1: come with me, and everyone's like, okay, the power that
Speaker 1: and then and then he arrests the international implications that
Speaker 1: has the clear all of it. So you know what,
Speaker 1: I'm sure there's a great deal of privilege to this,
Speaker 1: you know, like um method I'm saying, but like, um, yeah,
Speaker 1: that rules. But to be able to get to the
Speaker 1: place where I'm like, you know what I'm going and
Speaker 1: I don't care what anyone else does or says. That
Speaker 1: is tough, you know what I mean. Like to be
Speaker 1: the jail in that situation is like literally like say
Speaker 1: it's the Oscars, you know what I mean. So for example,
Speaker 1: like you know, don't love giving them Super a lot
Speaker 1: of credit, but like Will and Jada Boycott and the
Speaker 1: Oscars that year, they were like the first ones to
Speaker 1: kind of say we're not going that's the Oscars, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. Like and to be able to say,
Speaker 1: you know what, actually I'm going to reject this thing
Speaker 1: that that we've all been cultured to hold up higher
Speaker 1: than anything else in art film industry, It's like that
Speaker 1: is that takes a lot of balls, because you're probably
Speaker 1: saying when you do hashtag boycott Oscars or whatever, you're
Speaker 1: probably never getting nominated for an Oscar, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. Like it's like now with the w g
Speaker 1: A and like you know, all the drama that's happening
Speaker 1: with that, it's like, you know, it's it's a lot
Speaker 1: to say, like I'm going to fire my agent, but
Speaker 1: you do it because like that's what's right and and
Speaker 1: you stay with your union or whatever. But it's hard
Speaker 1: to often do the right thing in the face of
Speaker 1: society being like, well, it's this way, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, like tells all this time, I guess all
Speaker 1: this time. And the way that what society is thing
Speaker 1: is this way is you get abs. Yeah, well you
Speaker 1: can get away with anything. Um. And it is psycho
Speaker 1: it's psycho psychotic, and it must change. And we all
Speaker 1: have to lose our abs. Yes, if you have all
Speaker 1: the first loser. If you have abs, you're fascist. It's
Speaker 1: time to eat bread. It's time to eat bread. And
Speaker 1: by eat bread, I mean ask the questions. Yes, with
Speaker 1: the questions we asked everyone know you know, won't do
Speaker 1: here for me? Okay, um, okay, here's my thing. You
Speaker 1: I'm a fucking culture hound. So like multiple answers, I
Speaker 1: could have a million, Um, I decided to narrow my
Speaker 1: focus to one specific today. And you know what, if
Speaker 1: it doesn't ring true to you, I have others. Um
Speaker 1: now and then now and then the movie now and
Speaker 1: then then we not with um Christina ricci Um as
Speaker 1: Roberta with Rosie Donald as Roberta as well. We have
Speaker 1: to mean more. We have Hoffman. We have oh yeah,
Speaker 1: but we have Melanie Griffith. We have Dolora Birch, we
Speaker 1: have um nineties I, oh my gosh. We we have
Speaker 1: Rita Wilson. We have the girl that played the young
Speaker 1: Christie who did not have a career after but I
Speaker 1: wish her the best. Um we have who's the other kid,
Speaker 1: um Thora Birch, Christina Ricci, Gabby Hoffman. Yeah, that's for
Speaker 1: I'm going to look it up, look up now and
Speaker 1: then here's my thing, because can you believe I've never
Speaker 1: seen this. I think you should really see. It's super dark, like,
Speaker 1: oh my gosh, it was. It was just super formative.
Speaker 1: Like Devin Sawa that was like his open was so
Speaker 1: hot in that. And my sister and I used to
Speaker 1: play now and then. But first of all, growing up,
Speaker 1: I'd always play the boy parts and everything, and so
Speaker 1: like when we were playing Thank You Clear, and then
Speaker 1: we were playing Sailor Moon, like I'd be Darien and
Speaker 1: like we were playing now and then I'd beat Devin
Speaker 1: Sawa and like which would we just play now? In that?
Speaker 1: Which is the movie? This is amazing, this cast, you guys,
Speaker 1: this is just crazy. This is Gabby Hoffman Demi Moore,
Speaker 1: Christina Ricci, Rosie o'donnald Um, Rita Wilson, Thora Birch, Melanie Griffith,
Speaker 1: Devin saum Willis, Chloris Leachman, Hanka Zaria, Bonnie Hanjan Ingaroffalo
Speaker 1: Wower as an unredited Vietnam but mom where he told
Speaker 1: Roberta he got a purple heart and it was this
Speaker 1: moment and oh my god, like and Roberta had lost
Speaker 1: her mom and so they were going through trauma. And
Speaker 1: then like Sam's parents were getting divorced, and it was
Speaker 1: all about these best friends who were twelve years old
Speaker 1: in the seventies and just like like going through Like
Speaker 1: Roberta would make death jokes and they're like it will
Speaker 1: help you process. And Sam would run away when her
Speaker 1: parents were fighting. And then like Chrissy was like becoming
Speaker 1: a young woman and like teeny wanted to be a woman.
Speaker 1: It was truly like it packed so much into one
Speaker 1: damn movie. And then they did a Sands and my
Speaker 1: sister and I would do Sands after that, like and
Speaker 1: they like contacted dear Johnny who was this ghost, Like
Speaker 1: you guys got to see it. I mean, that's what
Speaker 1: I mean. And also I I'm kind of like fascinated
Speaker 1: by Roseyeos. I don't as a concept like and who
Speaker 1: she is and what she does and like what her
Speaker 1: career has been. I forget that. Like in the early nineties,
Speaker 1: she was she was actress, she was Leo, their own
Speaker 1: she was their own iconic. Oh yeah, I mean I
Speaker 1: just remember her talk show where she would have a
Speaker 1: her desk every day and the Oreo themed one really
Speaker 1: spoke to me. She was fucking Harriet the Spy, Queen
Speaker 1: of Nice, Queen of Nice, Queen of Nice. She was great.
Speaker 1: She like, I mean, is she is she a good actress? Yes, yes,
Speaker 1: she's like, here's my thing. She's a Jennifer Aniston. She's
Speaker 1: not going to play way outside her range. But what
Speaker 1: she does she does, well, wow, I love that. I
Speaker 1: love that, And there's nothing wrong with that. Well, here's
Speaker 1: my thing. It's just that I think we've kind of
Speaker 1: come to expect everything out of actors now, where it's
Speaker 1: like you have to be a versatile, you have to
Speaker 1: be a Christian bale, you have to kill yourself and
Speaker 1: then come to life again and then rise and it's
Speaker 1: just like, okay, well, let's want to be good at
Speaker 1: one thing and let that'd be good and appreciate it.
Speaker 1: I think there's nothing wrong with being a Jennifer Aniston
Speaker 1: because Jennifer Aniston knows exactly what credit and nobody gives
Speaker 1: her or money. It sucks. Jennifer is poor, essentially a
Speaker 1: litt culture number sixteen Jennifer, she needs our help. Kick
Speaker 1: was like a limmer of a moment for her. I
Speaker 1: didn't see Cake, but I heard. I heard that she
Speaker 1: fucking turned or the good girl whatever. That one was
Speaker 1: a good girl because good girl has a young hot
Speaker 1: Jake Jillen Hall, I'll come. I'm hopeful that she will
Speaker 1: have some sort of renaissance. Yes, in Dumbling, she was, Oh,
Speaker 1: she's gonna be in this new fucking Apple TV. Have
Speaker 1: you heard about this Apple TV show with Reese Weatherspoon?
Speaker 1: Did the trailer for the Apple TV? Stuff? Looks really good?
Speaker 1: I know, And I have a weird feeling. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: feel real mixed. I'm like Minority Report, but also like
Speaker 1: I love women totally. No, I'm excited. I just had
Speaker 1: a little missed opportunity. There was cast on a show
Speaker 1: that well, you know, we don't want to take the
Speaker 1: we don't want to take it away from the person
Speaker 1: who's playing the part, so we're not going to say
Speaker 1: what it is. That would be disrespectful. But Bowen almost
Speaker 1: was on an Apple TV show TV show, and it
Speaker 1: looks really cool. It looks really honestly, it looks very Yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean, hey, that's not yours. All the shows look
Speaker 1: really cool. And I'm going to say three shows that
Speaker 1: look cool, and one of them is the show because
Speaker 1: I do want to talk about it, one of them
Speaker 1: is the show that Bone is referencing, and two of
Speaker 1: them are not you guys, guys. You know what looks
Speaker 1: really amazing? That show Um Dickenson, That show Dickenson, That
Speaker 1: show Dickenson looks really good. The Hailey Steinfeld show. Oh
Speaker 1: my gosh. I should have booked that should do you know?
Speaker 1: I was I auditioned for Constance Loose part in the
Speaker 1: New j Los Dripper, and I was like, why didn't
Speaker 1: I get okay? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yah yeah, But you
Speaker 1: would have been perfect. You would have been amazing. What's
Speaker 1: about the score story where they would drug the guys
Speaker 1: and then take like a hundred and fifty dollar show? Awesome?
Speaker 1: I love that. It's really cool, But I don't know
Speaker 1: about cartib is going to be in a constance food
Speaker 1: j low fucking I'm Julia Stiles is playing the reporter,
Speaker 1: so fun. Wait wait wait, what is the story of
Speaker 1: this movie? They would they would drive these men and
Speaker 1: they would take theirs. So they were a strippers at
Speaker 1: scores on the West Side um of Manhattan and they like,
Speaker 1: so what would happen is these really really wealthy guys
Speaker 1: would come in and they would get them really drunk,
Speaker 1: and they will put like ecstasy, ecstasy and all sorts
Speaker 1: of different things things in their drinks, and then they
Speaker 1: would charge up their credit card like with like a
Speaker 1: hundred fifty thousand in a night, and the guys would
Speaker 1: be so embarrassed becuse they weren't supposed to be there.
Speaker 1: That it was going for like years, and then they
Speaker 1: got a little bit over jealous and started are they
Speaker 1: now most of them got a good chunk? Is this
Speaker 1: going to be a drama or comedy? I think it's
Speaker 1: gonna be a comedy. I couldn't tell from the script
Speaker 1: because it's j LO and it's content. It's to meet
Speaker 1: carties in it. Pretty I didn't know that. Pretty Julius
Speaker 1: to me what it feels like at least from the
Speaker 1: press is it looks like it's going to be like
Speaker 1: an Ocean's eight situation where you laugh but you're more
Speaker 1: in power. This is the thing. It's I love that
Speaker 1: there's a cultural thing that's happening with scammers where like
Speaker 1: your Elizabeth's homes, your firefests, like you're fucking what's her name?
Speaker 1: Um um Anna Delvi who just like she was the original.
Speaker 1: She's just like I just like to get well, even
Speaker 1: like Blingering Ship, Like Blingering was so ahead of its time,
Speaker 1: like fucking loves Snires. We robbed Adrean that was so
Speaker 1: goods calling um but what was gonna say? Oh no.
Speaker 1: So it's interesting that there's this cultural thing that's happening
Speaker 1: now with like scammers being like wow, what what are
Speaker 1: the minds of these people? But now also it's like
Speaker 1: after Oceans eight, you've got the dirty rotten scoundals genderal
Speaker 1: gender flip thing, where's an hathmanh my gosh are called
Speaker 1: the hustle the hustle cute And then like this strip
Speaker 1: of movie, I think there's just more like scamming movies
Speaker 1: maybe that are specifically female a lot anyway, Okay, but
Speaker 1: talk us through now and then let's go back Elizabeth
Speaker 1: what's her name Dickinson, Dickenson, Dickenson, Emily just Emily was
Speaker 1: playing Emily Dickinson and they talk modern but it's set
Speaker 1: in period. And are we talking Sophia copeless situation? Are
Speaker 1: we talking good or bad? We're talking it looks good great.
Speaker 1: Jane Krokowski plays the mom why did I just say?
Speaker 1: Jenni Moroni voices into the mic, you did say that,
Speaker 1: you did say you did? Jane is so good. Jane
Speaker 1: Drokowski is an icon. I actually think her best comedic
Speaker 1: moment like and there have been so many, but I'll
Speaker 1: never get over. In the pilot of Unbreakable Kimi Schmidt
Speaker 1: when she offers uh Fiji water to Kimmy want that
Speaker 1: is such a funny jobs, like opening a fridge and
Speaker 1: revealing that chok full of Fiji water? Do you want one?
Speaker 1: She says no, and she throws it out. That character
Speaker 1: choice good and the way she throws it out like
Speaker 1: no hesitation, just well, she doesn't want it, so I'm
Speaker 1: throwing it out. I still don't know I feel about
Speaker 1: the Native American arc. I know I'm gonna bravely say
Speaker 1: I think like I think it's funny. I think they're
Speaker 1: very aware. I think like the people on that show,
Speaker 1: we're very aware of, yes, the ridiculously absurdity of it,
Speaker 1: and that's why exactly, and people responded the way they
Speaker 1: were expected to respond. But I mean, I think about it,
Speaker 1: I laugh that show is a cartoon. Nothing exists in
Speaker 1: the world like truly, honestly, it's it's so heightened. I
Speaker 1: just feel like with Dirty Rock and with Unbreakable, the
Speaker 1: world is so heightened you just gotta laugh. Come on,
Speaker 1: I got kid here. That is my sense of humor,
Speaker 1: like when I read it, like like when I sit
Speaker 1: down to write, like the stuff that like from my
Speaker 1: own voice, and I feel like it's like everything might
Speaker 1: as well be a cartoon. I that I respond to that,
Speaker 1: and also just like the whole like Tina fe Robert
Speaker 1: Carlock like style of just like joke joke, even when
Speaker 1: it's like even when it's too fucking mouth, I feel
Speaker 1: like I love it. I feel like people our age
Speaker 1: have had just enough distance from thirty Rock Now where
Speaker 1: I go. I watched an episode for the first time
Speaker 1: in like months or no, not months, like a year
Speaker 1: and a half, and I was just like holy sh it,
Speaker 1: this is like this a this like for good, like
Speaker 1: people still are trying to emulate this voice and be
Speaker 1: like so funny. See, like the legacy of it is
Speaker 1: so strong. I just feel like And also, Kimmy Schmidt
Speaker 1: was so fucking brilliant. Did you see the episode last
Speaker 1: which the Last Year with t J with DJ finger
Speaker 1: Blast played by Derek Klana who's a friend of mine actually,
Speaker 1: And it was a whole like making them were a
Speaker 1: type documentary. It was so funny. It was so fucking funny,
Speaker 1: and truly almost none of the major characters were even
Speaker 1: in it. So Adie Bryant, fucking Adie Bryant is so
Speaker 1: funny as the John Hamm's like girlfriends. Oh my god,
Speaker 1: that's great. She's like in denial about the fact that
Speaker 1: like he's got like more more women like girlfriends. It's
Speaker 1: just so funny. I love that truly, everything everything about
Speaker 1: Unbreakable kamis shmiant. I love that funny. I like when
Speaker 1: things don't exist on planet Earth. It's totally totally totally
Speaker 1: I mean, it's Spider Man. Too many Spider Man, what
Speaker 1: is it? Oh god, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, there's nothing
Speaker 1: like it. Oh my god, um, say so now? And
Speaker 1: then if they remade it, what's the cast? Oh my god,
Speaker 1: how do we do it? Oh god, I don't know actors.
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, the pretty girl with the boobs? And
Speaker 1: what to the plot? Because I'm like, because I'll give you,
Speaker 1: guys other culture, because I feel like I want to
Speaker 1: enjoy and celebrate something that you guys have experienced as well,
Speaker 1: either tangentially or actually, fine, you give you give some culture,
Speaker 1: and then I want to ask you about something in
Speaker 1: culture that I think you do respond to. Okay, I
Speaker 1: love this. Ready, I'll give a list all the Harry
Speaker 1: Potter books. Yeah, come on, you are you are a child,
Speaker 1: I'm a child? All those you are? Share horror? What's
Speaker 1: his cousin? Thank you so much? Like I did? They
Speaker 1: really did. Because here's anything I have. I have lists
Speaker 1: what I wrote when I was like, gosh, I want
Speaker 1: to say six Like, I've list that has the entire
Speaker 1: cast of Clueless except for none of the men's names,
Speaker 1: just how they related to the women and my name.
Speaker 1: So it's like share dion Tye morgen Um, Ty's boyfriend,
Speaker 1: Dion's man um like what it was? It was a
Speaker 1: shares cute half brother in parentheses Josh like and like
Speaker 1: truly that movie, Oh my god, I was thinking about
Speaker 1: the other day, like even just like from a directorial standpoint,
Speaker 1: like the iconic shots like oh, in the writer hom
Speaker 1: we were for some reason put on fancy by Iggy Azalea,
Speaker 1: and just like that it's a good music video, we
Speaker 1: should say, and um give her that credit, um, even
Speaker 1: though it wasn't probably her, But just like I thought about,
Speaker 1: like how like the shots are so iconic, like for example,
Speaker 1: like them standing up against the fence, when the outfits iconic,
Speaker 1: like just like the costume design, the art, direction of
Speaker 1: it all, like just the direction of it all, like
Speaker 1: them with their walking talk shares a voice over walking
Speaker 1: talk and the guy coming up and her pushing away
Speaker 1: and saying as if just like truly everything there are
Speaker 1: so even every single theater screen with the outfits, like
Speaker 1: even that almost everything at her vanity, it's like, oh
Speaker 1: my god. And then the famous lines that come from
Speaker 1: like yeah, I hope not sporadically, yeah, it's like, oh
Speaker 1: my god, my bad. Like truly, so many things like
Speaker 1: started with Red Segull, It's like, oh my god, play
Speaker 1: suck and blow suck and below let's play suck and blow.
Speaker 1: It's sucking blow and I'll sucking suck. What an amazing movie. Wait,
Speaker 1: what am I going to tell her grandchildren? Yeah? I
Speaker 1: do not wear polyoster, not like some girls like show.
Speaker 1: Donald is so good and this is so good at
Speaker 1: that with his licking his teeth and that one scene
Speaker 1: when it's shaving his head. I'm like, ah, that shot,
Speaker 1: that's it. I'm calling your mother bad one back in
Speaker 1: the day, and she had a good one. Well she
Speaker 1: made good choices. Yeah, she made fantastic dresses. It's sad
Speaker 1: because she's like kinda in that movie. And now you think,
Speaker 1: like you can't picture them all getting together and getting
Speaker 1: lunch right because they see that Lysia Strown is now
Speaker 1: like this vegan mama that like, and it's just like,
Speaker 1: that's not Stacy that they are. They in fact, are
Speaker 1: diametrically opposed. Where's Amber is the real question. I piped
Speaker 1: her Instagram like a couple of months ago. She seems
Speaker 1: like she's doing great. Ambuler a ambuler. My doctor says,
Speaker 1: I'm not allowed to do any activity, wear balls fly
Speaker 1: at my face. Say, well, there goes social life. So good,
Speaker 1: Stacy was so good at that she I mean looks
Speaker 1: she's just good. Also the line when when she comes
Speaker 1: out of the we were both named after famous singers
Speaker 1: who now do infommercials. Oh that good again. That is
Speaker 1: a big world with joke jokeokeokeoke, virgin who can't drive
Speaker 1: harsh tie. I'm really sorry. Yeah a Maudie nineties. Oh
Speaker 1: my god, you know you guys know what movie. Brittany
Speaker 1: Murphy is so good in Uptown Girls, Uptown Girls writing
Speaker 1: in cars with boys amazing. No, this is the thing.
Speaker 1: This is the thing. Brittany Murphy is iconic. She would
Speaker 1: have won an oscar one day, she would have lost
Speaker 1: Vegas even in the Ashton Kutcher movie I loved. She
Speaker 1: makes it look easy. Brittany Murphy used to make it
Speaker 1: look very easy to be that charming and that specific
Speaker 1: and honestly like really brought that character of tied to
Speaker 1: life like it which she was perfect. And even I
Speaker 1: don't think it's necessarily fair for me to say this,
Speaker 1: but even she might have been like a Jennifer Anderson
Speaker 1: Rosio Donald where she did one. She didn't play too
Speaker 1: much outside of arrangement. She did it well. Remember, don't
Speaker 1: say a word, So what is that you don't remember?
Speaker 1: Don't say we're with that? With Douglas, she like she
Speaker 1: put like she was in like a mental facility or
Speaker 1: she wasn't. Girl dropped it fantastic, take it back and
Speaker 1: take it back. So I enjoyed. We miss you, Brittany,
Speaker 1: Brittany because I was released. And then Angelina Jolie fucking
Speaker 1: lazy and her with the monologue that won her in
Speaker 1: ospar get I think about she is my grandmother. You
Speaker 1: are a child of Angelina. Do you want to know
Speaker 1: some tea I heard about Angelina Jolie. Maybe she fucking
Speaker 1: loves Survivor. That's great. And because she goes to Survivor
Speaker 1: watch parties with all her kids, that's so fun. I
Speaker 1: like that. And and that they all watched Survivor. Did
Speaker 1: you know the Survivor is looking still huge, still on. Yes,
Speaker 1: you can't even believe how thriving it is. My sister
Speaker 1: wants to be honest. There's a cultural ship happening with
Speaker 1: Survivor where it kind of because I think this happened
Speaker 1: for the Bachelor to where for a while it dipped
Speaker 1: and then no one and now it's back. You're about
Speaker 1: your Bachelor Nation. Well, I watched for a few I
Speaker 1: started again with Rachel Lindsay, right, I loved I loved her,
Speaker 1: and then I thought that was the best season. Shocked
Speaker 1: it well, and I guess not shocked because the world
Speaker 1: is literal garbage. I couldn't believe when I heard that
Speaker 1: that was like one of the lower rated seasons. And
Speaker 1: then I remembered, despite the fact that her head and
Speaker 1: Shoulders being the best batch, she is Like I think
Speaker 1: about her, I'm like, I hope you're happy. I love
Speaker 1: you so much. Think well, you believed, you believe that,
Speaker 1: like all these men wanted to fight for her affection. Absolutely,
Speaker 1: I was like, yes, she is a not a prize,
Speaker 1: but you saw her on the street. You just want
Speaker 1: to talk to her. She has that effortvescence. She has
Speaker 1: that glow where you're just like, Hi, I hope you
Speaker 1: have a great day. Yes, yes, yes. That's my problem
Speaker 1: with the general conceit of those shows where there's one
Speaker 1: object of affection. I'm like, really, everyone wants to fall
Speaker 1: over the fall over themselves to marry you can't. Well,
Speaker 1: then there's like there's a whole psychological aspect to it too, right,
Speaker 1: which is like you cut the people off from society
Speaker 1: for months, and of course they're gonna think this, They're
Speaker 1: gonna have a cultish mentality around it exactly. But with her,
Speaker 1: I was like, this season really works because I believe
Speaker 1: that all these men would chime in love with Rachel,
Speaker 1: eyes of You and in love with Race exactly. And
Speaker 1: I agree with her and everything she did. She she
Speaker 1: had me the whole season until she picked Brian. That
Speaker 1: was with So Peter was Madison, Wisconsin's own. I ran
Speaker 1: into him and so I did, Okay, I did, and
Speaker 1: I did this okay. So sometimes when I get nervous
Speaker 1: or like over excited, anything's so bad um or like
Speaker 1: like truly I am like a child where it's like
Speaker 1: one drink, excited and nervous, angry anything, It's just like
Speaker 1: like what's up? And so I went. I passed him
Speaker 1: and he was so handsome and he had that perfect
Speaker 1: gap tooth and I was like, Hi, I'm from Addison,
Speaker 1: and he because hi, and he starts to talking. I
Speaker 1: just want to say, you're great. And Tim Plat was
Speaker 1: with me, and Tim's about your head, sweetest, mean, alive,
Speaker 1: like creative collabor day later and he Tim's watching me,
Speaker 1: and I'm going, okay, um, so we're gonna go, And
Speaker 1: then like he looked like he was going to engage,
Speaker 1: and I was like, and I truly ran away. Probably
Speaker 1: could have gotten a dat out. I absolutely could have.
Speaker 1: I know that for sure. I felt confordable as he
Speaker 1: is on the show. He's taller, he's stronger, He so handsome.
Speaker 1: It's crazy, and I'm like, oh my gosh, you come
Speaker 1: from my people, like you understand like how to eat
Speaker 1: just like only bread and white foods, you know, like
Speaker 1: it would be really nice crying what that scene where
Speaker 1: they did you watch that? I didn't. I didn't watch
Speaker 1: this scene where they broke up because they just like
Speaker 1: hit a wall. It was it was so hard hard
Speaker 1: to watch because it was like watching him really cry
Speaker 1: and like her really cry. And then like when it
Speaker 1: ended up being Brian after watching that whole section of
Speaker 1: that episode where it was like watching them obviously want
Speaker 1: to be together, and I was like this and coming
Speaker 1: up against the parameters of the show, being like he
Speaker 1: was like, I really would like to date you. I'm
Speaker 1: actually feeling really afraid of commitment right now. But and
Speaker 1: then she's like, no, this is the show, Like I understand.
Speaker 1: It's almost like she was like, please just like go
Speaker 1: through these motions. But yeah, he was, which is like
Speaker 1: unfortunate because you know her, she's a smart woman. She
Speaker 1: like she would have figured out something for them. I
Speaker 1: mean it's it's literally, it's like it's like, what are
Speaker 1: the rules anyway? Situations like you but you get engaged
Speaker 1: and you don't you get a Neil Diamond ring and
Speaker 1: then you just keep it. But he I think the Madison,
Speaker 1: Wisconsin jumped out. I think the traditionalism jumped out. That's
Speaker 1: what first of all, we should reference. We should say
Speaker 1: that that is a reference that jumped out as a
Speaker 1: reference to another reality show, Charms School, where Monique says
Speaker 1: to Pumpkin, remember when Pumpkins, Yes, I watched every vage
Speaker 1: one show ever, like the Surreal Life it Charms kept
Speaker 1: Remember that one with Jerry Hall had all those boys.
Speaker 1: Oh no, that was a really good one. Charms School,
Speaker 1: Charms Charms did you Charm School? First behavior last night
Speaker 1: was horror like there jumped out or jumped out, and
Speaker 1: then it jumped back in. But it jumped out. The
Speaker 1: horror jumped out. But the Atomy Award winner Monique so
Speaker 1: a human woman said last night was like the horror
Speaker 1: jumped out and then it jumped back in, but it
Speaker 1: jumped out the horror jump the horror jumped out, jump
Speaker 1: a horn jumping out, pure ump out like a banshee
Speaker 1: from your sphere, like just sucks on a dick. Because
Speaker 1: that is that is such a satisfying season of television
Speaker 1: if you watch it back, because I think it did
Speaker 1: succeed in the mission where it was like the outfits,
Speaker 1: we need outfits, but it succeeded in what its mission was,
Speaker 1: which is just to like have these women like whatever,
Speaker 1: like maybe like is a little problematic. This was the
Speaker 1: goal fights where the goal physical fights for the goal,
Speaker 1: but it was a problematic for them to be like
Speaker 1: less trash like the Bad Girls Club on Oxygen. It
Speaker 1: is a little class gross to be like will make
Speaker 1: you less trashy. But it was satisfying to watch. And Safierri,
Speaker 1: who won the whole season, was amazing and she had
Speaker 1: such a good arc and she had the best art
Speaker 1: because she got eliminated before she even got a name
Speaker 1: on Flavor of Love season two. Remember this Safire he
Speaker 1: got into a fight with with this poor woman. I
Speaker 1: forget who it was, but they fought over and then
Speaker 1: this woman they fight over bad. This woman takes the
Speaker 1: bouquet flowers and starts hitting Saffirius Ifire grabs onto her
Speaker 1: hair and then Safiri just goes, don't you hit me
Speaker 1: with flowers? And they fight and then she gets picked out.
Speaker 1: And then at Charms School, Monique does this whole ceremony
Speaker 1: where she like where she has all the girls step
Speaker 1: step up and reveal their real names, and then she
Speaker 1: she like takes so she divorces the flavor flame names
Speaker 1: from their names, and then it gets to Sufire. It's
Speaker 1: like Pumpkin, what's your real name? It's this is never
Speaker 1: going to be that again? Yeah, like what like like
Speaker 1: red Oyster, what was your real name? It's that red
Speaker 1: Oyster Oyster hoops, what's your real name? And then they
Speaker 1: get to Safi Reid. Monique goes, so we're going to
Speaker 1: give up that terrible name. No remember, so tell me
Speaker 1: what your real name is and then i Fire just goes,
Speaker 1: it's a fire like I didn't get a name, and
Speaker 1: so the firies my real name. It's beautiful television who
Speaker 1: is fascinating? Monique is father going from being to the
Speaker 1: stand up legends the Queens of Comedy too, charm School
Speaker 1: whatever too. Honestly, what was beer Fest? Remember? Beer Fest
Speaker 1: movie was I'm going to Break your dick off. Every
Speaker 1: boy in my grade get together and watch that multiple
Speaker 1: times that year, and I just like, can you guys
Speaker 1: hang out? I saw it in the shitty movie theater
Speaker 1: Original Cock Destroyer Monique, Original Cock Destroyer Monique. Then Precious
Speaker 1: based on the novel pushed by Sapphire immediately after Pademy
Speaker 1: Award winner in an incredible performance and then disgraced and
Speaker 1: blacklisted by certain sections of Hollywood for for for shitty reasons. Well,
Speaker 1: she's been fully blacklisted by truly Oprah and Tyler Perry,
Speaker 1: which is psycho and also Lee Daniels, like they still
Speaker 1: feel like remember the whole Steve Harvard that just happened,
Speaker 1: That was a whole thing. Yes, yes, did you not
Speaker 1: know about this? No? So basically, when Precious was coming out,
Speaker 1: there was obligations or like assumed obligations on everyone on
Speaker 1: the cast part to promote it. So they were and yeah,
Speaker 1: they were invited to Cohn where the film was was
Speaker 1: being shown, and Monique like declined to go to con
Speaker 1: because she wasn't being paid to do press, So basically
Speaker 1: she was not willing to play ball with any promotion.
Speaker 1: And then she wouldn't campaign for herself to win the
Speaker 1: Oscar because she felt it would be unfair to do
Speaker 1: it like politics. And she won the Oscar. Anyway, that's
Speaker 1: the most legit thing I've heard of, right, But Hollywood's
Speaker 1: a business, and she didn't play ball, and then it
Speaker 1: was this whole thing with like it became very public
Speaker 1: about how and why she wouldn't play ball, and then
Speaker 1: it got very ugly. Did we figure out legit was
Speaker 1: just about not being paid to do things, and she
Speaker 1: was like at the time, she had a B E.
Speaker 1: T talk show. I don't know if you remember that.
Speaker 1: But then she ended up losing a lot of it
Speaker 1: because I think she lost a lot of industry respect,
Speaker 1: but really just based on the whole like thing of like,
Speaker 1: she wouldn't play a ball in the way they wanted
Speaker 1: her to, and then it became public and ugly, And
Speaker 1: I don't think she's necessarily probably an easy person to
Speaker 1: deal with, but you know, when you're that talented, that's
Speaker 1: a groundbreaker. That's someone leaving the party. Even though there
Speaker 1: was no one's not going to follow them pioneer Relationships
Speaker 1: relationship Queen, and and not shaving your legs Queen. And
Speaker 1: I remember like she was asked about her open relationship
Speaker 1: by some interviewer. It might have been Diane Sawyer or something,
Speaker 1: but they grilled her about her open relationship. And this
Speaker 1: was like truly probably like four years ago, three or
Speaker 1: four years ago, and I was just like something about
Speaker 1: this feels really weird, like stop, leave her alone. It
Speaker 1: works for her. And it was this whole thing like
Speaker 1: it kind of was like remember years ago when Britney
Speaker 1: Spears said masturbation was secret, I mean, and and Diane sorry,
Speaker 1: was like it's what and Brittany like that later almost
Speaker 1: like oh I think I was confused. Sorry, sorry, sorry,
Speaker 1: I'm like, so you know, that's why Brittany is the
Speaker 1: way she is now, is because that down every single
Speaker 1: impulse she ever had so that she could be good
Speaker 1: for us. Meanwhile, like let her say master, but That's
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like we're talking at Brenchday, like we
Speaker 1: have to undo a lot of things that we absorbed
Speaker 1: because I would see Anne hash and I would be like,
Speaker 1: oh so you can't you can't like bold Okay, Oh
Speaker 1: my god, like because everyone was like, she dated Ellen
Speaker 1: and then she dated a man, so she die. We
Speaker 1: hate this, And I remember watching that being like sorry, okay,
Speaker 1: Like like imagine being someone who's like watching that Brittany
Speaker 1: interview and they and then she shames her for master
Speaker 1: babingturbating that kid then is not going to touch them.
Speaker 1: So it's suck. So you know, kid is not going
Speaker 1: to there, not going to do that. It suck that
Speaker 1: I didn't know because I hate being like, well, I'm
Speaker 1: not like that in my head. In my head, I
Speaker 1: literally saw you like right up on a jet ski,
Speaker 1: turn around and go the other way like that, and
Speaker 1: the water you have to go back by. Wow, have
Speaker 1: you ever written a jet ski? No? I refuse straight culture.
Speaker 1: It is. It's like there's these things that are still
Speaker 1: so violently dangerous and people like you haven't jumped out
Speaker 1: of a fucking plane, and you have because I don't
Speaker 1: believe you should have had to. That was culture was
Speaker 1: straight was definitely me jumping out of that plane was
Speaker 1: absolutely straight culture. So I'm happy that I did it
Speaker 1: because it feels funny to me now. Yeah, sure, Like
Speaker 1: I don't think i've ever shown you the video I've
Speaker 1: never seen the video. I don't I don't care to. Honestly,
Speaker 1: you've talked about it's like, that's scary, talked about it
Speaker 1: so many times. I was there. Oh wait, we didn't
Speaker 1: get to address that. We have made out. I didn't
Speaker 1: get to straight culture of the thing, man and I.
Speaker 1: Everyone said we had insane chemistry and we know that
Speaker 1: because I think we're twins in another life for sure.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, there's so much to work through. There
Speaker 1: are a good visual match are you guys are very
Speaker 1: too good too. We take striking photos together. Long live,
Speaker 1: long live good. We've been yeeling for like four and
Speaker 1: a half years. So ho, So you guys are playing detectives?
Speaker 1: What is going on? So it was the Rejectress pilot,
Speaker 1: and it was like so funny because it was playing
Speaker 1: on like um, you know, like Horatio in um uh
Speaker 1: not c s I maybe c s I where you
Speaker 1: take his sunglasses off and be like he looks like yeah,
Speaker 1: like what's his name David or whatever? CSI Miami yeah
Speaker 1: and he So like it was like playing on that
Speaker 1: where it was just super horny when there's a dead
Speaker 1: person in front of you, like straddling the body. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and so then like we would be like should you
Speaker 1: go take a sample, and then like it then build
Speaker 1: and then it was after us. It was Rachel's Winninsky
Speaker 1: and Brandon Scott Jones, and like both of us would
Speaker 1: do bits where all the two of us would just
Speaker 1: get too horny and then fall over onto a dead
Speaker 1: body making out on it. It was pension became too
Speaker 1: much and we Funny was playing the dead body. The
Speaker 1: dead body was played by Nicole silver Brook. Oh my god,
Speaker 1: so she wasn't we have to include her? She was
Speaker 1: there forever Dog's own Nicole Silverberok. Please listen to Nicole's
Speaker 1: Anatomy Dog. But yeah, that we did make out. Now,
Speaker 1: what did you think of the kiss? I think it
Speaker 1: was fantastic, really good time. I had a fun afternoon. Whoa,
Speaker 1: I felt like I started to smell bad after a
Speaker 1: while because it was in there. It was hot and
Speaker 1: it was like a warm day. It was a summer day.
Speaker 1: It was the summer day, this summer day, and you too.
Speaker 1: I believe. I believe it when people fall in love
Speaker 1: on set thanks to me, my dream as a kid.
Speaker 1: And but there's this thing that happens even now where
Speaker 1: it's like it hasn't really happened to me. Oh no,
Speaker 1: this happened. This truly happened to me in Brandon Scott
Speaker 1: Jones where we kissed. We kissed famously in a feature film,
Speaker 1: in a future film, and I was just like, we
Speaker 1: kissed like for like a dozen times. Yes, and then
Speaker 1: you fell in love with him? And afterwards I was like,
Speaker 1: he felt something, but my brain was just like I
Speaker 1: would look at him and I left to say bye
Speaker 1: to him, and it's like by Brandon, and then I
Speaker 1: walked away and I was like, um, oh, but you're
Speaker 1: in love with him, like that is your soul. Like
Speaker 1: it was kind of No, I did not feel that.
Speaker 1: I didn't I love you. I'm not in love with you. No. Not.
Speaker 1: You guys are not being honest with your emotions. You
Speaker 1: guys have to get to the bottom of belief of
Speaker 1: why you're not attractive. I have never once fallen in love.
Speaker 1: I've seen many popular video roulette videos where everybody's making
Speaker 1: out with everybody. I will say that everyone's making out
Speaker 1: and I have made out so many things then we
Speaker 1: can ever say that makes me laugh so hard. Yes,
Speaker 1: did you resolve the love? I did? I did? It
Speaker 1: was just it was just me saying, like, my it
Speaker 1: was me acknowledging that my brain was playing tricks on me.
Speaker 1: That's spooky. Did you ever sell Brandon Scotch that you were?
Speaker 1: I think so. I think I was just like, oh,
Speaker 1: I was like, I think I got why. I get
Speaker 1: why in a director fell in love? There you go?
Speaker 1: Or that people like too, people who have to constantly
Speaker 1: for a movie, yeah, or maybe a play even theater.
Speaker 1: Even I heard I heard T. I heard T that
Speaker 1: two coaster. I was looked up. Do you want to
Speaker 1: know who? I heard that? Evan Rachel would and Jimmy
Speaker 1: Simpson from West World hooked up. Which one's Jimmy Simpson?
Speaker 1: He played the young man in black like in the
Speaker 1: in the when you find out hot? Um? I honestly
Speaker 1: hard as hell for Ed Harrison looks great, has always
Speaker 1: looked the hottest guy. And that the one that plays um,
Speaker 1: the one that plays Oh, his name is Roderigo Santaurro.
Speaker 1: He plays one of the the robots. But he is
Speaker 1: like the hot, bad cowboy and he sucks Tandy Newton
Speaker 1: quite a bit. Oh yeah, yeah, that's that one is
Speaker 1: like and Tandy Newton. The children have forgotten Tandy Newton,
Speaker 1: and then she wanted Emmy and I'm the children about Andy. Wow. Good,
Speaker 1: the children have remembered, remembered. I think it's time. It
Speaker 1: is time. I don't think so get out of here,
Speaker 1: you boy. It's time. They are referencing my song that
Speaker 1: I sang. I wasn't that the Oscar Bowl? You were
Speaker 1: telling these football players had the Super Bowl? To get
Speaker 1: out of here? Hear you, bull boys, It's time for good.
Speaker 1: That's how I felt about every football player being on
Speaker 1: the field before halftime, like it was like halfway through.
Speaker 1: Actually I just almost called it Act I guess, like
Speaker 1: the second quarter. It was halfway through Act two and
Speaker 1: I have nothing yet. Do you know what I'm referencing? Um? Oh,
Speaker 1: Diva's lament from spam a lot. Oh, someone tweet so
Speaker 1: I have my I don't think so, honey. This is
Speaker 1: our one minute to rail against something in culture that
Speaker 1: we really do not like. Um. Okay, this is Mount Rogers.
Speaker 1: I don't think so many he has something. Yes, time
Speaker 1: starts now. I don't think so, honey. The fight or
Speaker 1: flight response, I'm either a coward or I'm violent, bitch.
Speaker 1: How about talking it out, honey. I don't think, so, honey,
Speaker 1: the fight or flight response, because let me tell you something,
Speaker 1: I am not going to sit here and pretend that
Speaker 1: I have two options. I have never once fought or flighted.
Speaker 1: I have always stayed exactly still and not known what
Speaker 1: to do in a crisis. And that is not fight
Speaker 1: or flight. That is freezing, honey. I don't think, so, honey,
Speaker 1: to fight or flight response because guess what, bitch, No,
Speaker 1: I feel that you have to sit down and talk
Speaker 1: through things, and that is not in this equation. Never
Speaker 1: once have I been by something and thought, oh, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna punch this thing. I will. That were my whole deal.
Speaker 1: But I'm telling you, if I'm confronted by something, I'm
Speaker 1: sitting down in shock and panic. If you're a shark
Speaker 1: and you caught to me, I die immediately, that's not
Speaker 1: fighting or flying. That is dying. And that's one minute.
Speaker 1: I love that. I feel that the fight or fight
Speaker 1: response does not apply to me. It is fight, fight
Speaker 1: or freeze. Um. So you are you are. It is
Speaker 1: like a new amended, but you are within that. But
Speaker 1: when was the amendment made? That's what I say. I
Speaker 1: don't think so, honey, late amendment, for sure, bingo, but
Speaker 1: they go late amendment and it's not a binary, it's
Speaker 1: a trinary. That might not be the word triinary. I
Speaker 1: don't think that's okay, here we go, okay, this is
Speaker 1: but when I don't think so honey, and his time
Speaker 1: will actually starting now, I don't think so honey, most
Speaker 1: Broadway audiences, because you know what, student, I went to
Speaker 1: the theater the other day, looked around, Um, it was
Speaker 1: what the Constitution means to me. Heidi Shrek phenomenal. Everyone,
Speaker 1: please go see it. She made them big, big, true
Speaker 1: statements about how the founding document of our country is
Speaker 1: actively working against marginalized communities. And you could feel the
Speaker 1: butt holes, the white butt holes, upper middle class buttholes
Speaker 1: clenched in that sucking audience, and no one I realized,
Speaker 1: this is most Broadway audiences. Picture sorties right now. All
Speaker 1: of the families in there probably white. And I don't
Speaker 1: mean to get to this very like reductive level about race,
Speaker 1: but Broadway on This is the reason I had to
Speaker 1: catch up on a lot of theaters, beause I did
Speaker 1: not grow up in a theater loving family, and most
Speaker 1: families of color probably didn't have access to that either.
Speaker 1: And I'm doing a lot of ketchup culturally, but I'm
Speaker 1: happy to do. But I'm realizing that there is a
Speaker 1: the the gatekeepers are the gatekeepers are white. The people
Speaker 1: are white, and the gatekeepers are the people who are
Speaker 1: just sitting in the seats in the first place, and
Speaker 1: they're just placing other people from seeing theater. That's one minute.
Speaker 1: That's one minute. So now it's an economic thing, it's
Speaker 1: a it's a class well, it's a class thing that
Speaker 1: is that is basically race. But it's just like it's
Speaker 1: just like it's like most Broadway audiences are these older,
Speaker 1: upper class white people. The weirdest thing is the Hamilton's
Speaker 1: of it all. But yeah, because we're shifting to the
Speaker 1: makers being you know, more diverse and more people get
Speaker 1: the viewers. Fact, it's actually getting even more difficult to
Speaker 1: buy a ticket to anything exactly. And it's it's not
Speaker 1: this thing that's happening in film or TV. It's like
Speaker 1: there's there's an there's an access block, there's a there's
Speaker 1: like a stage gate that's being there that is not moving,
Speaker 1: that's pretty fixed. And I think it really fucking sucks
Speaker 1: because I never got to see that much theater as
Speaker 1: a kid growing up, and my parents didn't care for
Speaker 1: I would be like, can we please go to New
Speaker 1: York and can we please buy these tickets for this
Speaker 1: Broadway show? They like, how much is it? Oh? Um?
Speaker 1: The ones that I want to like a hundred, and
Speaker 1: they were like, no, We're not paying that much money
Speaker 1: to see theater. That's because it wasn't a culturally, it
Speaker 1: was not told that it was for them. So there's that.
Speaker 1: And yes, of course, because economically you could have a
Speaker 1: boarded the tickets not even really not even yea for
Speaker 1: like a justification, that's a lot totally back then, it
Speaker 1: was just like the most they would my parents would
Speaker 1: spend on me at Christmas would be like sixty and
Speaker 1: so it was just not. My heart sank when I
Speaker 1: realized how much Broadway tickets cost when I wanted to.
Speaker 1: When I looked into buying tickets to go see fucking
Speaker 1: Phantom or whatever, like, I was just I was like, what,
Speaker 1: like eleven? And then when Wicked came out, I was
Speaker 1: like I have to see this. I have to see
Speaker 1: this on Broadway um, and tickets were like a hundred
Speaker 1: seventy and my parents were like no, and the best
Speaker 1: thing they could do was driving to the Gargent Theater.
Speaker 1: I would stand outside the doors and that was the
Speaker 1: most I could do. That sucks. And listen to the
Speaker 1: album and listen to the album of course and like
Speaker 1: new every word. But like, this is the thing that
Speaker 1: I'm realizing now and I'm I'm very lucky that I
Speaker 1: get to see theater and then I could I get
Speaker 1: to go to Broadway shows now. But I look around
Speaker 1: and I'm just like, there's a problem here, and then
Speaker 1: is the makeup of the audiences has not changed that
Speaker 1: much in the last twenty years. And to be honest
Speaker 1: with you, if you really think about it, the only
Speaker 1: reason Hamilton even gets on stages because Lynn Manuel had
Speaker 1: been proving himself with In the Heights. You have to imagine,
Speaker 1: like what else is out there that's so brilliant? And honestly,
Speaker 1: the majority of stuff that's even on Broadway is so
Speaker 1: aggressively average. I mean it's you watch it and you're
Speaker 1: like want like it's so you know, like I'm even
Speaker 1: seeing like um, Jeremy or Harris is writing these incredible
Speaker 1: places that I was going to say, even even slave
Speaker 1: Play was a mostly white audience, which is great, Like
Speaker 1: that was the audience that probably needed to see that
Speaker 1: um not needed to. But it's like I would have
Speaker 1: also loved I would have also loved a more like
Speaker 1: I would have also loved to like see like some
Speaker 1: kind of texture there to that audience and be like,
Speaker 1: how is everyone else responding to this? So I don't
Speaker 1: know that's my thing with theater right now, that's anyway
Speaker 1: I mean, I've done a similar I don't think it
Speaker 1: funny about their behavior there. It's like the unwrappiding of candy,
Speaker 1: the talking the cell phone. Sat next to this elderly
Speaker 1: gentleman who I think his whole thing is that he
Speaker 1: goes to every show. He's sad by himself, but for
Speaker 1: a solid I kid you, not fifteen minutes was it
Speaker 1: just going through his jack not even pulling stuff out
Speaker 1: of his jacket, just like folding it and then unfolding it.
Speaker 1: And it was comical and student I both steered at.
Speaker 1: And it's a thing of like I think people think
Speaker 1: because they are so privileged and they have paid so
Speaker 1: much for the ticket and they can do whatever they
Speaker 1: want so much because like I'm sorry, these men, these women,
Speaker 1: these non miinary people have worked their mother fucking asses
Speaker 1: off to get on Broadway and your ass is like,
Speaker 1: I about this ticket. I'm like, yes, you did to
Speaker 1: show respect. Show respect. You can't be in an audience
Speaker 1: and have there not be a cell phone go off.
Speaker 1: It's psychic. And then it's these people, and it's also
Speaker 1: like went off? What the constitution? Yeah, it's psycho And
Speaker 1: also like it really changes the experience. I mean, when
Speaker 1: you're in the theater and the self goes off, you
Speaker 1: are not paying attention anymore. Your mind for that seconds
Speaker 1: is like, is like when is that going to get
Speaker 1: turned off? And you lose what they're saying. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: And it can change an entire theatrical experience. People are very,
Speaker 1: very very ignorant. Yes, okay, that's that's me. And now,
Speaker 1: oh my gosh, I don't think so, honey. Your time
Speaker 1: starts now. I don't think so, honey. People holding hands
Speaker 1: on the motherfucking sidewalk. I'm fucking sorry. We're in New
Speaker 1: York City. You've seen okay, we've been watching Romcom since
Speaker 1: age two. Motherfucker's Bob and heads, hundreds of thousands of them.
Speaker 1: Do you think you have time to double up? Okay?
Speaker 1: We learned how to single file in child's school, like
Speaker 1: real young school, and I'm sorry if it gets tight,
Speaker 1: it's tight and we need a single file and you
Speaker 1: can't release hands, And now are you gonna lose them?
Speaker 1: Are you gonna? It's not gravity, bitch, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like, you're not going to get away from
Speaker 1: that person. That person is not going to go so
Speaker 1: far away from you that you Oh my god, you
Speaker 1: can't go so far away from you, you you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Like, and then the energy of like you're
Speaker 1: doing a crosstalk right, You're in a crosswalk and it's
Speaker 1: getting a little smish, and you're coming towards a couple
Speaker 1: that has a tight, firm hold on their hands, and
Speaker 1: it's like, you're gonna need a break. You can see
Speaker 1: you need to break like red Rover ship, you know,
Speaker 1: and they won't. Their their energy is just like if
Speaker 1: we lose hands, it's an assault relationship and we actually
Speaker 1: don't like each other. And it's like, no, it's not
Speaker 1: let me walk through. Oh my god, break your hands.
Speaker 1: You're gonna stay together or break up your stupid bitches.
Speaker 1: I don't give a ship walk, I don't, honey, And
Speaker 1: there you go. That's one minute. What is that death grip?
Speaker 1: That rigor mortis and congratulations on having to do it?
Speaker 1: Oh my god, It's just like, you know what it is.
Speaker 1: Hand holding is a tender act. You know, It's like, sure,
Speaker 1: if I see, you know, a daughter holding a hand
Speaker 1: of their elderly mother, yeah, hold that hand. But if
Speaker 1: you're just some couple and you just need a hold
Speaker 1: onto hands, you don't. Don't you know what? Get out
Speaker 1: of here, Get the fun out of here, Get the boys.
Speaker 1: Get out of here, you boys. It's time. I woke
Speaker 1: up just like I was like, what's in my head?
Speaker 1: And I couldn't identify the song on my head? And
Speaker 1: I kept playing it out and I realized it was
Speaker 1: get out of here, you boys. And you know, you
Speaker 1: and I were seeing it to each other earlier today
Speaker 1: and not not in Matt's presence, but when Matt sending
Speaker 1: back you know what we missed the separation on. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the hoys we forgot. I'm going to tell you it
Speaker 1: is going to be the song that we end on. Absolutely,
Speaker 1: But first I want to say this has been a
Speaker 1: glorious episode that touched all parts of the globe. A
Speaker 1: global episode. This was a global episode. We are local
Speaker 1: to each other and global in our thoughts. Yes, and honey,
Speaker 1: we touched each other's hearts and minds and funny bones.
Speaker 1: That's not our song, Well that's we can't end on that.
Speaker 1: But Mo, we love you. We cherished all my whole heart.
Speaker 1: We thank you. I thank you both. There's a brown
Speaker 1: recluse right behind you. I'll say you know what, and
Speaker 1: when I say you two gems are so dear to
Speaker 1: my heart, and you know what, You're so dear to
Speaker 1: so many people's heart. And this podcast, you mother stupid fucker's,
Speaker 1: is one of the specialists most wonderful, makes people feel seen,
Speaker 1: makes people feel hard. And I am so grateful that
Speaker 1: you two are in my life and you truth so
Speaker 1: special and love you. I think I think's going to
Speaker 1: connect with a lot of people. You're gonna have a connection.
Speaker 1: I love my audience. And now we're gonna get out
Speaker 1: of here with our song that we're gonna end um
Speaker 1: get tidd We were so loud and thought by. This
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