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Speaker 1: and scorpio is fixed. Yes, Okay, I have a lot

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Speaker 1: of one sign in my chart which makes me feel

422
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Speaker 1: like you feel. I'm afraid of you. You fear me,

423
00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:56,679
Speaker 1: fear me and they I fear your power, and I

424
00:22:56,680 --> 00:22:59,440
Speaker 1: fear how wonderful and larger you're going to be, because bitch,

425
00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:02,960
Speaker 1: ye to be a huge girlfriend. Do you think that

426
00:23:03,119 --> 00:23:07,239
Speaker 1: I shouldn't need to marry a virgo? Okay, here's us.

427
00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:12,040
Speaker 1: I've been told you've been repeating it, but that's because

428
00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:14,560
Speaker 1: I'm desperate to find someone. And on what's your signs?

429
00:23:14,560 --> 00:23:18,960
Speaker 1: Shout out to what's your sign? Yeah, and they said

430
00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:22,040
Speaker 1: I'll marry a virgo? What's what say you? What say

431
00:23:22,119 --> 00:23:24,960
Speaker 1: me is that you know, not everybody is their emotional

432
00:23:25,040 --> 00:23:27,840
Speaker 1: heightened version of their signs. There are low and evolved,

433
00:23:28,080 --> 00:23:30,800
Speaker 1: like you know, there's two aspects. So what I'll say

434
00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:35,119
Speaker 1: is there you're you can marry someone with a virgo

435
00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:38,000
Speaker 1: fucking Mars and Venus. They don't have to be a

436
00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:40,560
Speaker 1: virgo son, you know what I'm saying. I know, not

437
00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:42,000
Speaker 1: as long as they have a Virgo in the chart.

438
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Speaker 1: But so what you're saying is I'm taking it to

439
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Speaker 1: you seriously. I think your your attachment to needing an

440
00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:53,399
Speaker 1: answer is blocking blocking it from coming in. Oh my god,

441
00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:56,320
Speaker 1: there it is. My attachment to needing an answer is

442
00:23:56,359 --> 00:23:59,159
Speaker 1: blocking it from coming in. That makes a lot of

443
00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:01,560
Speaker 1: sense to me. Nice, And this is a classic thing

444
00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:04,160
Speaker 1: in the therapy. This is a classic thing in therapy

445
00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:07,800
Speaker 1: that my therapist is like, there's you. You are obsessed

446
00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:10,400
Speaker 1: with thinking about things in terms of the right way

447
00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:14,840
Speaker 1: and wrong thing to handle something, and you should stop

448
00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:17,880
Speaker 1: doing that. There's this Egyptian goddess of called Boss. It's

449
00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:19,800
Speaker 1: like the goddess of cats, which is also the goddess

450
00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:22,959
Speaker 1: of fairness, and the idea of fairness to her is

451
00:24:23,040 --> 00:24:26,159
Speaker 1: not right or wrong, but a favorable outcome for all.

452
00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:30,160
Speaker 1: And so it's about really releasing what you believe justices

453
00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:33,840
Speaker 1: and separating the difference between fairness and justice. Oh wow,

454
00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:37,280
Speaker 1: that's gorgeous. It's hard. It's a hard lesson to learn

455
00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:41,119
Speaker 1: in life because we get really ingrained and we hold

456
00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:44,760
Speaker 1: these certain you know, injustices as offenses to our identity

457
00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:48,520
Speaker 1: instead of realizing that there is just like one step

458
00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:53,119
Speaker 1: outside the situation. I want to talk about this mo Tammy,

459
00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:55,680
Speaker 1: this thing called bottom beliefs that I just really want

460
00:24:55,720 --> 00:24:58,320
Speaker 1: to quickly talk about before we before we ask the question. No,

461
00:24:58,320 --> 00:25:00,040
Speaker 1: I don't even know what bottom beliefs is. So this

462
00:24:59,840 --> 00:25:02,240
Speaker 1: is this, explain it to me like an idiot. Okay,

463
00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:06,639
Speaker 1: this is I'm I'm gonna do the dumb idiot explanation,

464
00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:08,399
Speaker 1: and then Mom is going to actually is going to

465
00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:14,560
Speaker 1: film the film bottom Beliefs. Bottom beliefs. You name a

466
00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:18,120
Speaker 1: belief that you have about something, usually and it's helpful

467
00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:20,480
Speaker 1: if it's a destructive belief or if it's the belief

468
00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:22,280
Speaker 1: that's like sort of holding you back in some way.

469
00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:25,600
Speaker 1: Like I'll say, like, um, I believe that the gate

470
00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:27,919
Speaker 1: like this is something that I've gotten over recently that

471
00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:30,280
Speaker 1: I've I've made progress on I believe that the Gate

472
00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:36,000
Speaker 1: community is racist towards Asians. And then and then you

473
00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:38,520
Speaker 1: get to the body, you just basically keep bottoming out

474
00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:41,359
Speaker 1: and nesting that belief. Well why do you think that

475
00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:46,680
Speaker 1: because I think, um that Asians are like Asian males

476
00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:49,600
Speaker 1: are sort of emasculated in Western culture. Well why do

477
00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:55,439
Speaker 1: you believe that? Because I believe that, Um uh, you know,

478
00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:57,720
Speaker 1: we value European standards of beauty. Well why do you

479
00:25:57,720 --> 00:26:00,080
Speaker 1: believe that? Because and then you just keep basically digging

480
00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:03,960
Speaker 1: to the bottom of until you can't explain it away anymore. Um,

481
00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:06,720
Speaker 1: that's kind of a crazy example. But like, I what's

482
00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:09,399
Speaker 1: the value in this. It's just to get to the

483
00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:12,800
Speaker 1: root of why you think, you like, what this belief is,

484
00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:15,159
Speaker 1: and then you just realize that, like, and this is

485
00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:17,720
Speaker 1: something I've told you is that, and I've talked about

486
00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:19,960
Speaker 1: probably on some other episodes, is that, like any destructive

487
00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:24,239
Speaker 1: belief is just a string of words, and language is

488
00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:26,920
Speaker 1: just a way to contain a concept that otherwise would

489
00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:32,280
Speaker 1: not even exist mental in our thought, in our thoughts. Basically,

490
00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:36,920
Speaker 1: we wouldn't think about um, you know, let's say I

491
00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:42,320
Speaker 1: wouldn't think about Ah being gay, if being if if

492
00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:45,840
Speaker 1: the word gay didn't exist to contain that whole experience.

493
00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:50,200
Speaker 1: So like that's like like the only the only real

494
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Speaker 1: thing is numbers. That and that that and so you

495
00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:55,040
Speaker 1: have said this up State five, the only real thing

496
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Speaker 1: is numbers. And both times they've tripped on acid, that's

497
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Speaker 1: been the thing. The only real thing is numbers, Henry,

498
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Speaker 1: Henry Caperskie, that's the same thing he says, the only

499
00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:04,440
Speaker 1: real thing is numbers. Er. I had a special moment

500
00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:06,520
Speaker 1: where he was talking about like prime and then we're like,

501
00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:08,679
Speaker 1: you're in your prime when you're you're winning with your

502
00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:10,720
Speaker 1: in alignment, you're in your prime. You're in your prime.

503
00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:14,320
Speaker 1: And prime numbers only whole within itself. And that's and

504
00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:17,400
Speaker 1: that's the whole meaning of it. Um. And so anyway,

505
00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:19,639
Speaker 1: and you're and you're basically doing that with bottom beliefs.

506
00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:22,480
Speaker 1: Is you're basically dividing a thought, a belief into itself

507
00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:26,119
Speaker 1: until you cannot reduce it to to whatever its whole is.

508
00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:29,320
Speaker 1: I mean, Bone did amazing job describing I don't know

509
00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:32,120
Speaker 1: you really did. Um. The idea is, you know, especially

510
00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:34,320
Speaker 1: if you have trauma, and I believe all of us

511
00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:36,280
Speaker 1: in the queer community have trauma, even if you don't

512
00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:38,600
Speaker 1: want to identifies, you know, having done that, this is

513
00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:41,399
Speaker 1: like you're already a deficit. But and I don't mean

514
00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:44,000
Speaker 1: that in a you know, yeah, I got it. So

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Speaker 1: what I'll say is what happens then is a lot

516
00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:49,320
Speaker 1: of beliefs come from one bottom belief. So it's like,

517
00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:52,880
Speaker 1: say your belief, your bottom belief is I'm unworthy of love, right,

518
00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:55,000
Speaker 1: But you might not realize that that's the bottom belief

519
00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:56,919
Speaker 1: because there's all these other things floating around if just

520
00:27:56,920 --> 00:27:59,240
Speaker 1: guys don't like me, or I'm too much, I'm annoying,

521
00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:02,120
Speaker 1: or I'm embarrassing, or I talked too much, and all

522
00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:05,280
Speaker 1: these little chatters, right are little like stems off this

523
00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:07,919
Speaker 1: one bottom fucking belief. So you can deal with the

524
00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:10,200
Speaker 1: fact that you're an embarrassment or whatever it's because you're

525
00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:13,000
Speaker 1: not right even though that thought bubbles up, but you're

526
00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:15,840
Speaker 1: still not addressing the root problem at the bottom. So

527
00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:18,359
Speaker 1: what happens is a new one grows and so you

528
00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:20,320
Speaker 1: can like try and like get through it, but you don't.

529
00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:22,520
Speaker 1: So this really helped me when I was processing a

530
00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:25,159
Speaker 1: lot of trauma, because I would get really anxious and

531
00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:28,159
Speaker 1: really embarrassed about something, and you know, I'd wake up

532
00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:29,399
Speaker 1: in the morning I'm like, oh my god, I was

533
00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:31,800
Speaker 1: the worst personal I would find new friends. I'm so embarrassing.

534
00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:34,200
Speaker 1: I'm the worst personal life. It's like, okay, so it's

535
00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:36,320
Speaker 1: you know what, where, when? Why? Or what's the worst thing?

536
00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:39,239
Speaker 1: What happened about that? So it'd be like, oh, well,

537
00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:41,280
Speaker 1: I'm the worst personal life. Okay, what's the worst part

538
00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:44,880
Speaker 1: about that? Well, um, nobody likes me because I'm the worst? Okay,

539
00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:47,400
Speaker 1: Well why are you the worst? Because um, I'm really

540
00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:49,479
Speaker 1: I talked too much? Okay, Well what's the worst part

541
00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:52,320
Speaker 1: about talking too much? That I could annoy someone? Okay,

542
00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:54,600
Speaker 1: well what's the worst part about annoying someone? Um, then

543
00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:57,040
Speaker 1: then they won't love me? Well, why wouldn't they love you?

544
00:28:57,240 --> 00:28:59,640
Speaker 1: Because I'm unlovable? Whoa? And then you get to this

545
00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:02,240
Speaker 1: bottom believe of like ship And then when I get

546
00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:04,520
Speaker 1: to the bottom, what I like to do? And a

547
00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:06,920
Speaker 1: lot of times if you have blocked memories, it doesn't work.

548
00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:08,800
Speaker 1: But you just have to sit with that feeling of

549
00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:10,720
Speaker 1: just like, first of all, I feel it in my body.

550
00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:12,600
Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, is that my tummy? Is that my heart,

551
00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:15,120
Speaker 1: like where is that? And then I say, do I

552
00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:17,840
Speaker 1: remember where this started? And you might not. It might

553
00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:20,080
Speaker 1: go to some weird, random like high school memory where

554
00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:22,600
Speaker 1: like someone rejected you. But like if that's what manifests

555
00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:24,920
Speaker 1: in your mind, then then you like you sit with

556
00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:28,400
Speaker 1: that and then you just truly like work through that moment.

557
00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:30,480
Speaker 1: Maybe you cry, maybe a punch a pillow, but you

558
00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:34,520
Speaker 1: release that bottom belief this has helped you immensely, Oh

559
00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:36,800
Speaker 1: my gosh. And it's something simple, and I'm sure there's

560
00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:40,040
Speaker 1: so many ways in psychology and therapy that it manifests

561
00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:42,440
Speaker 1: right for people to do this, and there's anyways, but

562
00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:45,520
Speaker 1: for me, for you, yeah, I've really found that, like

563
00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:49,240
Speaker 1: finding a core source of something has cut it off.

564
00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:51,680
Speaker 1: It's it's weeding, you know, you have to get Yes,

565
00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:55,560
Speaker 1: I had like a weird um date the other night,

566
00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:58,680
Speaker 1: and then the day after, I woke up an hour

567
00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:02,480
Speaker 1: before I usually it, and my chest was like I

568
00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:05,680
Speaker 1: felt so anxious, and I swear to God, I did

569
00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:08,840
Speaker 1: not know why, like it didn't go the way I

570
00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:10,480
Speaker 1: wanted it to. And I woke up in the morning

571
00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:12,719
Speaker 1: and I, yeah, it's just like the next day, I

572
00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:17,480
Speaker 1: was like, I feel horrible and I literally could not

573
00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:19,320
Speaker 1: answer the question why, and so that is something I

574
00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:21,040
Speaker 1: will use from that one because I had never heard

575
00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:24,719
Speaker 1: of this, Like I think conceptually I knew what this was,

576
00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:28,280
Speaker 1: but that sounds like it really helped. And bitch, a

577
00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:31,080
Speaker 1: concept needs a fucking it's the linguistic thing. If you

578
00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:33,720
Speaker 1: need the word before you to understand the concept. It's

579
00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:35,360
Speaker 1: like I feel anxious, Like why do you think you

580
00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:37,240
Speaker 1: feel anxious? Because I had a date last night that

581
00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:39,600
Speaker 1: didn't go well? Okay, well what about it didn't go well?

582
00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:42,920
Speaker 1: We didn't have sex? Why did Why did you not

583
00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:46,000
Speaker 1: have sex? Because it didn't feel like there was chemistry there?

584
00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:49,480
Speaker 1: Are you describing? Where are you putting value on the sex? Yeah? Yeah,

585
00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:52,040
Speaker 1: that's another interesting question. I guess that that's something. That's

586
00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:54,120
Speaker 1: another question I have is it's like, how do you

587
00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:56,479
Speaker 1: know when you're get taking it off track? The bottom

588
00:30:56,480 --> 00:30:58,920
Speaker 1: beliefs thing? What's the question you're supposed to ask every

589
00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:01,160
Speaker 1: single time? What's the worst thing about that? I mean

590
00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:03,200
Speaker 1: that helps me. What I'd say is, first of all,

591
00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:05,640
Speaker 1: especially for you, if you're like already weeding through a lot,

592
00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:07,520
Speaker 1: I like to feel it in my body, right, so

593
00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:09,920
Speaker 1: then I don't net in the very policy, but you

594
00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:12,560
Speaker 1: don't might not have the words right, so you're like, okay,

595
00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:14,600
Speaker 1: my tell me her. It's like, you know, what is

596
00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:17,040
Speaker 1: that feeling down there? What is that base sacred sort

597
00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:20,280
Speaker 1: of feeling? And it's just like, you know, what do

598
00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:22,800
Speaker 1: I associate with that gut? I trust? Okay, well I

599
00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:25,040
Speaker 1: don't trust. Why didn't I trust? You know you can

600
00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:27,480
Speaker 1: do that. But when you get to a bottom, it's

601
00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:29,880
Speaker 1: pretty simple, is what I'd say. You know what, I

602
00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:32,520
Speaker 1: just really discovered something about myself even just saying that,

603
00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:35,240
Speaker 1: which is that I make a lot of things about sex. Yeah,

604
00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:38,040
Speaker 1: so like maybe like my value is sex and that

605
00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:41,600
Speaker 1: might be your bottom belief and that's something that's important

606
00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:44,480
Speaker 1: for you to work through, and recognizing it is already

607
00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:47,920
Speaker 1: helping it, you know, move like like I don't know

608
00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:50,320
Speaker 1: I'm talking to me about this, Like being like in

609
00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:52,200
Speaker 1: Los Angeles now in a new city, you're meeting a

610
00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:54,800
Speaker 1: whole bunch of new gay men or people like like

611
00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:57,240
Speaker 1: that you could have relationships with. And something I'm finding

612
00:31:57,320 --> 00:31:59,400
Speaker 1: is a block is like I can't get over this

613
00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:03,040
Speaker 1: thing of like I like sometimes the first thing I

614
00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:05,200
Speaker 1: think when I look at someone is like, am I

615
00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:07,600
Speaker 1: attracted them. Are they attracted to me? Like that is

616
00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:10,040
Speaker 1: like something that like I don't know, it's like, for

617
00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:16,320
Speaker 1: some reason, a preoccupying thing. Do you guys have that? Um? Yeah,

618
00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:20,000
Speaker 1: although yeah, but you feel that it's different. Well, it's

619
00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:21,400
Speaker 1: it's just different. Like if I were to move to

620
00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:24,680
Speaker 1: l A, I I would meet those people and I

621
00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:28,160
Speaker 1: would imagine that they just the interest wouldn't be I

622
00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:30,720
Speaker 1: wouldn't have anything to work off and just be like, Okay,

623
00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:33,719
Speaker 1: well most of these people probably would not want to

624
00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:38,000
Speaker 1: I think everyone's is, you know, whatever your wound is,

625
00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:39,800
Speaker 1: like mine would be. If I met all these people,

626
00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:41,760
Speaker 1: I would assume all of them were to me, and

627
00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:44,760
Speaker 1: I would instantly reject them because I don't like that energy.

628
00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:48,800
Speaker 1: So like everyone is sort of filtering through the lens

629
00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:50,880
Speaker 1: of their trauma, you know. So that's for you and

630
00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:52,400
Speaker 1: for me, it's just I would meet these people and

631
00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:55,240
Speaker 1: be like, you're probably not attracted to me, And I

632
00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:58,719
Speaker 1: think my thing is when I meet these people, I think, well, well,

633
00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:01,719
Speaker 1: I don't know, Like it's it's when you grow up

634
00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:04,720
Speaker 1: and everyone's like, okay, this is maybe gonna be a lot.

635
00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:07,880
Speaker 1: But like when you grow up and you're told like

636
00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:11,240
Speaker 1: you're so handsome. You're so handsome, like like this is

637
00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:12,880
Speaker 1: something that you're given since you're a little kid, and

638
00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:16,320
Speaker 1: you're told to ascribe value to that and please understand,

639
00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:19,480
Speaker 1: I know this is like a very privileged thing to say.

640
00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:21,720
Speaker 1: But then when you get into a community that's so

641
00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:26,080
Speaker 1: obviously prizes like the only the top physical specimens, and

642
00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:29,959
Speaker 1: you've been cultured to believe that your attractiveness is one

643
00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:32,280
Speaker 1: of the best things about you and like one of

644
00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:35,400
Speaker 1: the most important things about you that could make you

645
00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:38,640
Speaker 1: feel worthless. And I think that's why like a lot

646
00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:42,200
Speaker 1: of people who you would think wouldn't necessarily be self conscious,

647
00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:44,720
Speaker 1: like at parties like that warehouse party went to in

648
00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:47,120
Speaker 1: l A, like a lot I think everyone there is

649
00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:49,440
Speaker 1: like freaking out. And we would all tell you if

650
00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:51,160
Speaker 1: we were all honest and telling each other, like I'm

651
00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:53,440
Speaker 1: freaking out? Are you freaking out? You look at people

652
00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:55,680
Speaker 1: and be like you're freaking out? What do you mean?

653
00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:58,200
Speaker 1: But it's like you know, and so I think, like

654
00:33:58,600 --> 00:34:01,040
Speaker 1: something I'm literally discovered and like in this and like

655
00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:03,000
Speaker 1: I think I knew this is just I put a

656
00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:07,240
Speaker 1: lot of importance on like my sexual capital in certain

657
00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:10,239
Speaker 1: situations because I feel like it's a way in I

658
00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:15,440
Speaker 1: don't know, Hetty not petty. Well, you think you have

659
00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:19,239
Speaker 1: to reprogram a lot of ship like I have to. Well,

660
00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:21,279
Speaker 1: I think, yes, I think you need things. I mean

661
00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:24,319
Speaker 1: therapy right, like we do. There's value and breathwork, there's

662
00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:26,960
Speaker 1: value in you know, exercise, like there is things that

663
00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:29,440
Speaker 1: we do have to do to release these things that

664
00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:32,520
Speaker 1: we shouldn't have been drilled with. But you know, like

665
00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:34,840
Speaker 1: it is a big dog time. You know, you're an adult,

666
00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:37,399
Speaker 1: it's time to grab that and be like you know what, bitch,

667
00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:39,359
Speaker 1: I don't feel good. This doesn't make me feel good.

668
00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:42,520
Speaker 1: Like I left that party and like I think, I think.

669
00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:44,239
Speaker 1: I texted like you and Dave and I was like

670
00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:46,040
Speaker 1: is it insane that I just left this place? Like

671
00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:48,600
Speaker 1: why I? And then someone's like no, when you figure

672
00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:51,120
Speaker 1: out something is not for you, that's it, like you

673
00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:52,880
Speaker 1: can take yourself out of a situation. I think I

674
00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:55,640
Speaker 1: was telling you, well, I was telling you. I was

675
00:34:55,680 --> 00:34:57,919
Speaker 1: talking to you from a place of like, yeah, I've

676
00:34:58,040 --> 00:35:01,799
Speaker 1: known this to be I think you have. And it's

677
00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:04,759
Speaker 1: just like as I walk into that space and I'm

678
00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:07,480
Speaker 1: already like okay, like this isn't for me. I'm not

679
00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:10,319
Speaker 1: gonna really be like, this is not a place where

680
00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:13,040
Speaker 1: I'm going to stand out in any positive way. So

681
00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:16,520
Speaker 1: I'll just like let that go and just like buy

682
00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:20,239
Speaker 1: a fucking huge slice of watermelon and take that into

683
00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:23,880
Speaker 1: the warehouse and eat watermelon while while the lights are strubing,

684
00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:27,399
Speaker 1: and I had a great time. But it's also but yeah,

685
00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:30,520
Speaker 1: I mean, I but that beliefs, but that is like

686
00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:32,719
Speaker 1: but that that like the way that you sort of

687
00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:36,480
Speaker 1: reckon with that situation is card and it's and it's

688
00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:38,840
Speaker 1: and it's tough, and do you, like, do you understand

689
00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:40,799
Speaker 1: what I'm saying? I totally get what you're saying. I

690
00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:43,799
Speaker 1: get what are you kidding? It is a huge life

691
00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:46,400
Speaker 1: lesson to realize that, like, you don't have to be

692
00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:49,560
Speaker 1: putting yourself in these situations where you feel judged or

693
00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:54,920
Speaker 1: in inadequate or you know, not worthy, right, and you're

694
00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:59,279
Speaker 1: not anything less for not being in those situations. It's

695
00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:04,000
Speaker 1: an interest to concept this. I mean, you know what

696
00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:07,360
Speaker 1: I say, I think, um, all of the people in

697
00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:09,719
Speaker 1: our lives and like all the people listening like all

698
00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:11,759
Speaker 1: really want a lot for themselves in their lives. But

699
00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:15,720
Speaker 1: what that means is really facing hard things about yourself

700
00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:17,560
Speaker 1: head on so you can move through them and be

701
00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:20,840
Speaker 1: the thing you want to be. Yes, or they're just

702
00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:23,680
Speaker 1: they're just has to be this. And I'm not saying that,

703
00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:25,520
Speaker 1: like some people don't have this, but there has to

704
00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:30,640
Speaker 1: be this recursive thing in you, this mechanism that tells

705
00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:33,560
Speaker 1: you I should address this and change, because then they're

706
00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:35,879
Speaker 1: they're just because well, there are some people who don't

707
00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:40,560
Speaker 1: have that, who do not want to change. And that's it.

708
00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:43,360
Speaker 1: And I literally told you in a bit you way recently.

709
00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:45,239
Speaker 1: I was like, well, you should examine this thing about you.

710
00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:48,839
Speaker 1: And but that's just me, that's just me saying like,

711
00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:52,200
Speaker 1: you know, but it was about this. It was literally

712
00:36:52,239 --> 00:36:54,400
Speaker 1: about it. It It was do you know about the former

713
00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:59,640
Speaker 1: congressman Aaron Shock. So he was like he was in Illinois.

714
00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:02,360
Speaker 1: He's in Illinois, and he was very anti gay Republican.

715
00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:08,440
Speaker 1: But rumors started right so young and like uh conventionally attractive,

716
00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:10,600
Speaker 1: in fact muscular and was even on the cover of

717
00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:13,640
Speaker 1: like some like men's fitness magazines like to the to

718
00:37:13,719 --> 00:37:15,960
Speaker 1: that extent, and he was like kind of like a

719
00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:19,200
Speaker 1: star Republican because he was like young and like hot

720
00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:22,840
Speaker 1: and like still held their beliefs got cat accepting bribes

721
00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:26,840
Speaker 1: and he had to leave in disgrace, decorated his office

722
00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:32,040
Speaker 1: inspired by down and they were starts about him being gay.

723
00:37:32,719 --> 00:37:36,440
Speaker 1: So that has been confirmed. Like in the past few months,

724
00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:39,320
Speaker 1: he's just been very out in West Hollywood, like around

725
00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:41,680
Speaker 1: and now he's not in Congress anymore. He's just doing whatever,

726
00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:45,640
Speaker 1: and like he is very much like a figure like

727
00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:48,320
Speaker 1: on the scene. And he was at Coachella, and pictures

728
00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:50,400
Speaker 1: of him making out with guys and like doing whatever

729
00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:53,120
Speaker 1: and like very much doing the whole Coachella thing came out,

730
00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:55,440
Speaker 1: and so all of a sudden there was all this

731
00:37:55,520 --> 00:37:57,960
Speaker 1: talk about him again. Meanwhile, he had been like on

732
00:37:58,000 --> 00:37:59,920
Speaker 1: the scene in West Hollywood for months, but the Coachella

733
00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:02,760
Speaker 1: pictures really made it like a viral talking point on Twitter.

734
00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:05,760
Speaker 1: And but wait, has this person talked back their rhetoric

735
00:38:06,120 --> 00:38:08,960
Speaker 1: from because that's like so that's why people got mad.

736
00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:11,440
Speaker 1: They were like they were like normally, like all these

737
00:38:11,440 --> 00:38:14,920
Speaker 1: gay media outlets were like normally we would never right,

738
00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:17,239
Speaker 1: Like that is a very personal thing. But for someone

739
00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:22,120
Speaker 1: who has destructively acted against the queer community, I mean,

740
00:38:22,239 --> 00:38:24,160
Speaker 1: like we have no we have no problem, like just

741
00:38:24,280 --> 00:38:26,480
Speaker 1: shining a line on this, Yeah, because there's a difference

742
00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:30,040
Speaker 1: between you know, you know, putting out your internalized misogyny

743
00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:32,759
Speaker 1: outwardly like that happens. That's unfortunate, it's sad. It's a

744
00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:34,960
Speaker 1: cycle of abuse. It's a cycle of that like to

745
00:38:35,120 --> 00:38:37,920
Speaker 1: use to gain power and then to use that power

746
00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:41,799
Speaker 1: against lesser powerfully people and then to be like basically

747
00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:44,920
Speaker 1: I'm going to say for a certain section, for an

748
00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:48,560
Speaker 1: important section of the queer community to be accepted and embraced.

749
00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:50,960
Speaker 1: That's the absolutely I mean. And that's the thing is

750
00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:52,879
Speaker 1: it's like if he didn't look the way he looked,

751
00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:56,800
Speaker 1: there wouldn't even get discussion, Like Larry Craig. Larry Craig happened.

752
00:38:56,840 --> 00:39:01,560
Speaker 1: Everyone was like by everyone yep. And because here was

753
00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:03,200
Speaker 1: no place for him in the gay knew there's a

754
00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:05,279
Speaker 1: there's a place for Aaron Shock in the game. And

755
00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:07,920
Speaker 1: that is something I think that that that's I'm almost

756
00:39:09,160 --> 00:39:11,279
Speaker 1: I'm happy that it's a conversation because I think it's

757
00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:14,920
Speaker 1: something that the gay community truly needs to discuss. Is

758
00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:17,680
Speaker 1: why we let people like this get away with whatever

759
00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:22,680
Speaker 1: they want. Um. But what happened was I was seeing

760
00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:26,320
Speaker 1: it go viral on Twitter, and I almost even tweeted like, uh,

761
00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:29,560
Speaker 1: why don't we ignore this person actually instead of retweeting

762
00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:31,640
Speaker 1: this picture, Like I was like getting annoyed that we

763
00:39:31,640 --> 00:39:33,719
Speaker 1: were retweeting it so much. I'm like, okay, like we're this,

764
00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:36,759
Speaker 1: We're still circulating like this photo this person. And then

765
00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:39,800
Speaker 1: I realized I actually had been following him on Instagram,

766
00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:43,279
Speaker 1: like unbeknownst to me, and somebody took a screenshot of

767
00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:45,000
Speaker 1: the fact that I was following him and posted on

768
00:39:45,680 --> 00:39:47,759
Speaker 1: and Bowen texted me and he was like, are you

769
00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:50,520
Speaker 1: following Aaron Shock on Instagram? And I was like no,

770
00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:52,279
Speaker 1: And then I realized I was, and I was like,

771
00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:54,239
Speaker 1: oh my god, I am but I didn't realize and

772
00:39:54,280 --> 00:39:57,000
Speaker 1: I'm I followed him immediately, etcetera. And he was like

773
00:39:57,040 --> 00:39:59,520
Speaker 1: I took a moment to be disappointed in my friends,

774
00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:02,160
Speaker 1: and I was just like, how do I I was like,

775
00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:05,400
Speaker 1: what do I? What do I say them? Like the

776
00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:08,600
Speaker 1: person I care most about in this whole world? I

777
00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:10,640
Speaker 1: was like, I was like, and it came off in

778
00:40:10,680 --> 00:40:13,280
Speaker 1: the way that it comes off when I say things sometimes.

779
00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:16,200
Speaker 1: It was just a little mean and snarky and whatever.

780
00:40:16,239 --> 00:40:18,359
Speaker 1: I was just like, well, maybe you examine it, which

781
00:40:18,400 --> 00:40:21,440
Speaker 1: I mean is you know what I mean, we even

782
00:40:21,520 --> 00:40:23,600
Speaker 1: zoom out, like here's what I'll say, is this the

783
00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:26,880
Speaker 1: gay community is facing this intersectionally which has been you know,

784
00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:29,239
Speaker 1: like you know, black girls don't get their photo when

785
00:40:29,239 --> 00:40:31,400
Speaker 1: their kidnapsticking, and then they have women who are not

786
00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:33,920
Speaker 1: pretty enough when they're assaulted that they don't get coverage.

787
00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:36,600
Speaker 1: And it is like this huge problem where it is

788
00:40:36,600 --> 00:40:40,400
Speaker 1: like based in the beauty values of like young straight

789
00:40:40,400 --> 00:40:43,480
Speaker 1: white ciss women. And then I feel like that's permeating

790
00:40:43,480 --> 00:40:47,120
Speaker 1: out and these it's applying, it's you know, reactingting in

791
00:40:47,120 --> 00:40:49,319
Speaker 1: all these different ways, and we all I don't know,

792
00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:52,520
Speaker 1: it's just I'm like, let's all figure out together. I think.

793
00:40:52,560 --> 00:40:54,880
Speaker 1: I think it's like for our like I wish it

794
00:40:55,160 --> 00:40:57,359
Speaker 1: like I don't wish it could, but like for our

795
00:40:57,400 --> 00:41:00,719
Speaker 1: community that it presents an interesting topic of conversation. It

796
00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:02,880
Speaker 1: just it's honestly going to come down to whether the

797
00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:05,800
Speaker 1: people that need to change or need to make changes

798
00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:08,960
Speaker 1: are gonna want to talk about this, Like are they

799
00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:17,080
Speaker 1: actually gonna is my favorite metaphor of analogy seminarly Um Okay,

800
00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:19,360
Speaker 1: So this is what I believe with all like and

801
00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:20,960
Speaker 1: I believe we're doing this, and we've been doing this,

802
00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:23,719
Speaker 1: but like with when it comes to activism, okay, So

803
00:41:24,239 --> 00:41:26,680
Speaker 1: after I think it was like on all the Grammys, Um,

804
00:41:27,080 --> 00:41:30,240
Speaker 1: Katy Perry was having a party at one Oak okay, okay,

805
00:41:31,560 --> 00:41:34,120
Speaker 1: and she was playing horrible music and it was not

806
00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:38,120
Speaker 1: good music. Bitch is fucking jail. Oh my god. And

807
00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:40,759
Speaker 1: so I think I've told you this more that, and

808
00:41:40,840 --> 00:41:43,759
Speaker 1: so Dalo rises to all of her friends, right, music bad,

809
00:41:43,800 --> 00:41:45,840
Speaker 1: all our friends. You know, it's like the hob knob situation,

810
00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:47,080
Speaker 1: like you want to stay there, you want to see

811
00:41:47,080 --> 00:41:49,680
Speaker 1: and be seen. And so Jilo is like, I'm not

812
00:41:49,719 --> 00:41:53,399
Speaker 1: having fun. Jula doesn't say everyone, let's go. Jaylor doesn't

813
00:41:53,400 --> 00:41:55,840
Speaker 1: say I'm done, let's shut this party down. Jaila just

814
00:41:55,920 --> 00:41:59,160
Speaker 1: leaves and guess what that confidence that's standing in that

815
00:41:59,800 --> 00:42:03,120
Speaker 1: and everybody fucking followed j Lo. It's okay. I mentioned

816
00:42:03,120 --> 00:42:06,200
Speaker 1: this on the Culture. It's that d agent thing. M h,

817
00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:08,000
Speaker 1: this is okay. Can I can I tell you this

818
00:42:08,040 --> 00:42:12,879
Speaker 1: is a similar morning. There's this book that I right now.

819
00:42:12,920 --> 00:42:16,640
Speaker 1: It's very I'm recommending it to everyone. I'm telling everyone

820
00:42:16,640 --> 00:42:19,920
Speaker 1: it's very new age language. But it's the writer, Martha

821
00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:21,759
Speaker 1: Beck is very self aware, and she's very she's got

822
00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:25,839
Speaker 1: solid jokes, solid has she she can she can fit

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00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:30,239
Speaker 1: into any room solids. But she um, she has this

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Speaker 1: d D A agent friend who instead of kicking down

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00:42:34,160 --> 00:42:36,160
Speaker 1: doors and a drug rate and holding up a gun,

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00:42:36,760 --> 00:42:38,719
Speaker 1: we'll just find a way to sneak. We'll find a

827
00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:42,920
Speaker 1: way to enter the space and just walk in and

828
00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:47,600
Speaker 1: just calmly sit down in front of the people, the

829
00:42:47,640 --> 00:42:51,160
Speaker 1: people in there, and he'll just be like and ms

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00:42:51,160 --> 00:42:53,239
Speaker 1: her this and mats her this, and and then the

831
00:42:53,280 --> 00:42:56,400
Speaker 1: people are just like confused, but not fully. They're startled,

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00:42:56,400 --> 00:42:59,279
Speaker 1: but not like alarmed because normally, like they'd run away

833
00:42:59,320 --> 00:43:01,400
Speaker 1: if it was like gun was being held to their

834
00:43:01,520 --> 00:43:03,600
Speaker 1: you know, like pointing in the direction. But they're just

835
00:43:03,640 --> 00:43:06,320
Speaker 1: like startled and they're confused, like who is this person?

836
00:43:07,239 --> 00:43:09,920
Speaker 1: And then after like a moment, this agent just is like,

837
00:43:10,160 --> 00:43:13,960
Speaker 1: come with me, and everyone's like, okay, the power that

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00:43:14,120 --> 00:43:17,240
Speaker 1: and then and then he arrests the international implications that

839
00:43:17,360 --> 00:43:25,319
Speaker 1: has the clear all of it. So you know what,

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00:43:25,320 --> 00:43:27,120
Speaker 1: I'm sure there's a great deal of privilege to this,

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00:43:27,239 --> 00:43:31,600
Speaker 1: you know, like um method I'm saying, but like, um, yeah,

842
00:43:31,719 --> 00:43:34,000
Speaker 1: that rules. But to be able to get to the

843
00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:36,279
Speaker 1: place where I'm like, you know what I'm going and

844
00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:38,960
Speaker 1: I don't care what anyone else does or says. That

845
00:43:39,120 --> 00:43:42,719
Speaker 1: is tough, you know what I mean. Like to be

846
00:43:42,840 --> 00:43:46,920
Speaker 1: the jail in that situation is like literally like say

847
00:43:46,960 --> 00:43:49,760
Speaker 1: it's the Oscars, you know what I mean. So for example,

848
00:43:49,840 --> 00:43:53,200
Speaker 1: like you know, don't love giving them Super a lot

849
00:43:53,239 --> 00:43:56,279
Speaker 1: of credit, but like Will and Jada Boycott and the

850
00:43:56,320 --> 00:43:58,680
Speaker 1: Oscars that year, they were like the first ones to

851
00:43:58,719 --> 00:44:01,920
Speaker 1: kind of say we're not going that's the Oscars, you

852
00:44:01,920 --> 00:44:03,759
Speaker 1: know what I mean. Like and to be able to say,

853
00:44:03,880 --> 00:44:06,279
Speaker 1: you know what, actually I'm going to reject this thing

854
00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:10,000
Speaker 1: that that we've all been cultured to hold up higher

855
00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:13,879
Speaker 1: than anything else in art film industry, It's like that

856
00:44:14,080 --> 00:44:17,560
Speaker 1: is that takes a lot of balls, because you're probably

857
00:44:17,600 --> 00:44:22,279
Speaker 1: saying when you do hashtag boycott Oscars or whatever, you're

858
00:44:22,320 --> 00:44:25,000
Speaker 1: probably never getting nominated for an Oscar, you know what

859
00:44:25,120 --> 00:44:27,200
Speaker 1: I mean. Like it's like now with the w g

860
00:44:27,360 --> 00:44:29,560
Speaker 1: A and like you know, all the drama that's happening

861
00:44:29,560 --> 00:44:32,120
Speaker 1: with that, it's like, you know, it's it's a lot

862
00:44:32,239 --> 00:44:35,560
Speaker 1: to say, like I'm going to fire my agent, but

863
00:44:35,680 --> 00:44:39,160
Speaker 1: you do it because like that's what's right and and

864
00:44:39,360 --> 00:44:42,480
Speaker 1: you stay with your union or whatever. But it's hard

865
00:44:42,560 --> 00:44:45,680
Speaker 1: to often do the right thing in the face of

866
00:44:46,640 --> 00:44:49,400
Speaker 1: society being like, well, it's this way, you know what

867
00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:52,000
Speaker 1: I mean, like tells all this time, I guess all

868
00:44:52,040 --> 00:44:54,560
Speaker 1: this time. And the way that what society is thing

869
00:44:54,600 --> 00:44:58,000
Speaker 1: is this way is you get abs. Yeah, well you

870
00:44:58,040 --> 00:45:00,280
Speaker 1: can get away with anything. Um. And it is psycho

871
00:45:00,440 --> 00:45:04,600
Speaker 1: it's psycho psychotic, and it must change. And we all

872
00:45:04,640 --> 00:45:07,160
Speaker 1: have to lose our abs. Yes, if you have all

873
00:45:07,320 --> 00:45:10,160
Speaker 1: the first loser. If you have abs, you're fascist. It's

874
00:45:10,160 --> 00:45:12,120
Speaker 1: time to eat bread. It's time to eat bread. And

875
00:45:12,160 --> 00:45:14,200
Speaker 1: by eat bread, I mean ask the questions. Yes, with

876
00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:19,879
Speaker 1: the questions we asked everyone know you know, won't do

877
00:45:20,040 --> 00:45:30,040
Speaker 1: here for me? Okay, um, okay, here's my thing. You

878
00:45:30,200 --> 00:45:33,480
Speaker 1: I'm a fucking culture hound. So like multiple answers, I

879
00:45:33,480 --> 00:45:36,439
Speaker 1: could have a million, Um, I decided to narrow my

880
00:45:36,600 --> 00:45:39,400
Speaker 1: focus to one specific today. And you know what, if

881
00:45:39,400 --> 00:45:42,200
Speaker 1: it doesn't ring true to you, I have others. Um

882
00:45:42,400 --> 00:45:44,960
Speaker 1: now and then now and then the movie now and

883
00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:48,279
Speaker 1: then then we not with um Christina ricci Um as

884
00:45:48,360 --> 00:45:51,000
Speaker 1: Roberta with Rosie Donald as Roberta as well. We have

885
00:45:51,040 --> 00:45:54,799
Speaker 1: to mean more. We have Hoffman. We have oh yeah,

886
00:45:54,800 --> 00:45:57,600
Speaker 1: but we have Melanie Griffith. We have Dolora Birch, we

887
00:45:57,719 --> 00:46:01,200
Speaker 1: have um nineties I, oh my gosh. We we have

888
00:46:01,320 --> 00:46:03,920
Speaker 1: Rita Wilson. We have the girl that played the young

889
00:46:03,960 --> 00:46:05,440
Speaker 1: Christie who did not have a career after but I

890
00:46:05,520 --> 00:46:08,919
Speaker 1: wish her the best. Um we have who's the other kid,

891
00:46:09,080 --> 00:46:12,680
Speaker 1: um Thora Birch, Christina Ricci, Gabby Hoffman. Yeah, that's for

892
00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:14,239
Speaker 1: I'm going to look it up, look up now and

893
00:46:14,280 --> 00:46:16,080
Speaker 1: then here's my thing, because can you believe I've never

894
00:46:16,120 --> 00:46:18,239
Speaker 1: seen this. I think you should really see. It's super dark, like,

895
00:46:18,760 --> 00:46:20,560
Speaker 1: oh my gosh, it was. It was just super formative.

896
00:46:20,600 --> 00:46:24,560
Speaker 1: Like Devin Sawa that was like his open was so

897
00:46:24,640 --> 00:46:26,080
Speaker 1: hot in that. And my sister and I used to

898
00:46:26,080 --> 00:46:27,920
Speaker 1: play now and then. But first of all, growing up,

899
00:46:27,960 --> 00:46:30,200
Speaker 1: I'd always play the boy parts and everything, and so

900
00:46:30,239 --> 00:46:32,399
Speaker 1: like when we were playing Thank You Clear, and then

901
00:46:32,480 --> 00:46:34,480
Speaker 1: we were playing Sailor Moon, like I'd be Darien and

902
00:46:34,520 --> 00:46:36,680
Speaker 1: like we were playing now and then I'd beat Devin

903
00:46:36,719 --> 00:46:39,080
Speaker 1: Sawa and like which would we just play now? In that?

904
00:46:39,120 --> 00:46:42,360
Speaker 1: Which is the movie? This is amazing, this cast, you guys,

905
00:46:42,400 --> 00:46:45,239
Speaker 1: this is just crazy. This is Gabby Hoffman Demi Moore,

906
00:46:45,400 --> 00:46:50,600
Speaker 1: Christina Ricci, Rosie o'donnald Um, Rita Wilson, Thora Birch, Melanie Griffith,

907
00:46:50,800 --> 00:46:55,680
Speaker 1: Devin saum Willis, Chloris Leachman, Hanka Zaria, Bonnie Hanjan Ingaroffalo

908
00:46:56,320 --> 00:47:02,319
Speaker 1: Wower as an unredited Vietnam but mom where he told

909
00:47:02,360 --> 00:47:03,960
Speaker 1: Roberta he got a purple heart and it was this

910
00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:07,080
Speaker 1: moment and oh my god, like and Roberta had lost

911
00:47:07,080 --> 00:47:08,680
Speaker 1: her mom and so they were going through trauma. And

912
00:47:08,719 --> 00:47:10,920
Speaker 1: then like Sam's parents were getting divorced, and it was

913
00:47:10,920 --> 00:47:13,080
Speaker 1: all about these best friends who were twelve years old

914
00:47:13,080 --> 00:47:15,840
Speaker 1: in the seventies and just like like going through Like

915
00:47:15,920 --> 00:47:18,120
Speaker 1: Roberta would make death jokes and they're like it will

916
00:47:18,120 --> 00:47:20,120
Speaker 1: help you process. And Sam would run away when her

917
00:47:20,120 --> 00:47:23,040
Speaker 1: parents were fighting. And then like Chrissy was like becoming

918
00:47:23,040 --> 00:47:25,520
Speaker 1: a young woman and like teeny wanted to be a woman.

919
00:47:26,920 --> 00:47:30,080
Speaker 1: It was truly like it packed so much into one

920
00:47:30,600 --> 00:47:33,279
Speaker 1: damn movie. And then they did a Sands and my

921
00:47:33,320 --> 00:47:35,960
Speaker 1: sister and I would do Sands after that, like and

922
00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:38,799
Speaker 1: they like contacted dear Johnny who was this ghost, Like

923
00:47:39,280 --> 00:47:42,000
Speaker 1: you guys got to see it. I mean, that's what

924
00:47:42,040 --> 00:47:45,359
Speaker 1: I mean. And also I I'm kind of like fascinated

925
00:47:45,360 --> 00:47:47,960
Speaker 1: by Roseyeos. I don't as a concept like and who

926
00:47:48,040 --> 00:47:49,680
Speaker 1: she is and what she does and like what her

927
00:47:49,719 --> 00:47:52,160
Speaker 1: career has been. I forget that. Like in the early nineties,

928
00:47:52,160 --> 00:47:55,359
Speaker 1: she was she was actress, she was Leo, their own

929
00:47:55,480 --> 00:47:58,440
Speaker 1: she was their own iconic. Oh yeah, I mean I

930
00:47:58,480 --> 00:47:59,880
Speaker 1: just remember her talk show where she would have a

931
00:48:00,000 --> 00:48:02,080
Speaker 1: her desk every day and the Oreo themed one really

932
00:48:02,120 --> 00:48:06,600
Speaker 1: spoke to me. She was fucking Harriet the Spy, Queen

933
00:48:06,640 --> 00:48:09,640
Speaker 1: of Nice, Queen of Nice, Queen of Nice. She was great.

934
00:48:10,040 --> 00:48:15,759
Speaker 1: She like, I mean, is she is she a good actress? Yes, yes,

935
00:48:15,840 --> 00:48:18,480
Speaker 1: she's like, here's my thing. She's a Jennifer Aniston. She's

936
00:48:18,520 --> 00:48:20,400
Speaker 1: not going to play way outside her range. But what

937
00:48:20,520 --> 00:48:22,680
Speaker 1: she does she does, well, wow, I love that. I

938
00:48:22,760 --> 00:48:27,360
Speaker 1: love that, And there's nothing wrong with that. Well, here's

939
00:48:27,400 --> 00:48:29,560
Speaker 1: my thing. It's just that I think we've kind of

940
00:48:29,560 --> 00:48:32,960
Speaker 1: come to expect everything out of actors now, where it's

941
00:48:32,960 --> 00:48:34,400
Speaker 1: like you have to be a versatile, you have to

942
00:48:34,400 --> 00:48:36,440
Speaker 1: be a Christian bale, you have to kill yourself and

943
00:48:36,480 --> 00:48:38,520
Speaker 1: then come to life again and then rise and it's

944
00:48:38,560 --> 00:48:40,239
Speaker 1: just like, okay, well, let's want to be good at

945
00:48:40,239 --> 00:48:42,040
Speaker 1: one thing and let that'd be good and appreciate it.

946
00:48:42,480 --> 00:48:45,000
Speaker 1: I think there's nothing wrong with being a Jennifer Aniston

947
00:48:45,040 --> 00:48:49,439
Speaker 1: because Jennifer Aniston knows exactly what credit and nobody gives

948
00:48:49,440 --> 00:48:54,320
Speaker 1: her or money. It sucks. Jennifer is poor, essentially a

949
00:48:54,320 --> 00:48:59,239
Speaker 1: litt culture number sixteen Jennifer, she needs our help. Kick

950
00:48:59,360 --> 00:49:02,080
Speaker 1: was like a limmer of a moment for her. I

951
00:49:02,120 --> 00:49:04,800
Speaker 1: didn't see Cake, but I heard. I heard that she

952
00:49:05,120 --> 00:49:07,759
Speaker 1: fucking turned or the good girl whatever. That one was

953
00:49:07,760 --> 00:49:11,319
Speaker 1: a good girl because good girl has a young hot

954
00:49:11,400 --> 00:49:15,919
Speaker 1: Jake Jillen Hall, I'll come. I'm hopeful that she will

955
00:49:15,960 --> 00:49:19,759
Speaker 1: have some sort of renaissance. Yes, in Dumbling, she was, Oh,

956
00:49:19,880 --> 00:49:21,600
Speaker 1: she's gonna be in this new fucking Apple TV. Have

957
00:49:21,640 --> 00:49:24,240
Speaker 1: you heard about this Apple TV show with Reese Weatherspoon?

958
00:49:25,400 --> 00:49:28,120
Speaker 1: Did the trailer for the Apple TV? Stuff? Looks really good?

959
00:49:28,239 --> 00:49:31,920
Speaker 1: I know, And I have a weird feeling. Yeah, I

960
00:49:31,920 --> 00:49:35,360
Speaker 1: feel real mixed. I'm like Minority Report, but also like

961
00:49:35,400 --> 00:49:40,520
Speaker 1: I love women totally. No, I'm excited. I just had

962
00:49:40,520 --> 00:49:46,240
Speaker 1: a little missed opportunity. There was cast on a show

963
00:49:46,520 --> 00:49:50,120
Speaker 1: that well, you know, we don't want to take the

964
00:49:50,600 --> 00:49:52,000
Speaker 1: we don't want to take it away from the person

965
00:49:52,000 --> 00:49:53,719
Speaker 1: who's playing the part, so we're not going to say

966
00:49:53,800 --> 00:49:59,400
Speaker 1: what it is. That would be disrespectful. But Bowen almost

967
00:49:59,480 --> 00:50:02,360
Speaker 1: was on an Apple TV show TV show, and it

968
00:50:02,400 --> 00:50:05,800
Speaker 1: looks really cool. It looks really honestly, it looks very Yeah.

969
00:50:05,840 --> 00:50:09,839
Speaker 1: I mean, hey, that's not yours. All the shows look

970
00:50:09,880 --> 00:50:11,880
Speaker 1: really cool. And I'm going to say three shows that

971
00:50:11,920 --> 00:50:14,120
Speaker 1: look cool, and one of them is the show because

972
00:50:14,160 --> 00:50:15,759
Speaker 1: I do want to talk about it, one of them

973
00:50:15,800 --> 00:50:18,360
Speaker 1: is the show that Bone is referencing, and two of

974
00:50:18,400 --> 00:50:19,959
Speaker 1: them are not you guys, guys. You know what looks

975
00:50:19,960 --> 00:50:27,040
Speaker 1: really amazing? That show Um Dickenson, That show Dickenson, That

976
00:50:27,120 --> 00:50:30,319
Speaker 1: show Dickenson looks really good. The Hailey Steinfeld show. Oh

977
00:50:30,400 --> 00:50:34,200
Speaker 1: my gosh. I should have booked that should do you know?

978
00:50:34,280 --> 00:50:36,960
Speaker 1: I was I auditioned for Constance Loose part in the

979
00:50:37,000 --> 00:50:39,520
Speaker 1: New j Los Dripper, and I was like, why didn't

980
00:50:39,520 --> 00:50:42,040
Speaker 1: I get okay? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yah yeah, But you

981
00:50:42,040 --> 00:50:44,799
Speaker 1: would have been perfect. You would have been amazing. What's

982
00:50:46,480 --> 00:50:48,680
Speaker 1: about the score story where they would drug the guys

983
00:50:48,680 --> 00:50:51,800
Speaker 1: and then take like a hundred and fifty dollar show? Awesome?

984
00:50:51,880 --> 00:50:53,640
Speaker 1: I love that. It's really cool, But I don't know

985
00:50:53,640 --> 00:50:55,520
Speaker 1: about cartib is going to be in a constance food

986
00:50:55,560 --> 00:50:58,040
Speaker 1: j low fucking I'm Julia Stiles is playing the reporter,

987
00:50:58,239 --> 00:51:00,520
Speaker 1: so fun. Wait wait wait, what is the story of

988
00:51:00,560 --> 00:51:03,400
Speaker 1: this movie? They would they would drive these men and

989
00:51:03,400 --> 00:51:05,200
Speaker 1: they would take theirs. So they were a strippers at

990
00:51:05,200 --> 00:51:08,160
Speaker 1: scores on the West Side um of Manhattan and they like,

991
00:51:08,360 --> 00:51:10,799
Speaker 1: so what would happen is these really really wealthy guys

992
00:51:10,800 --> 00:51:12,399
Speaker 1: would come in and they would get them really drunk,

993
00:51:12,440 --> 00:51:14,399
Speaker 1: and they will put like ecstasy, ecstasy and all sorts

994
00:51:14,440 --> 00:51:17,120
Speaker 1: of different things things in their drinks, and then they

995
00:51:17,120 --> 00:51:18,880
Speaker 1: would charge up their credit card like with like a

996
00:51:18,920 --> 00:51:21,919
Speaker 1: hundred fifty thousand in a night, and the guys would

997
00:51:21,920 --> 00:51:23,680
Speaker 1: be so embarrassed becuse they weren't supposed to be there.

998
00:51:23,920 --> 00:51:26,600
Speaker 1: That it was going for like years, and then they

999
00:51:26,680 --> 00:51:29,680
Speaker 1: got a little bit over jealous and started are they

1000
00:51:30,120 --> 00:51:33,680
Speaker 1: now most of them got a good chunk? Is this

1001
00:51:33,760 --> 00:51:35,520
Speaker 1: going to be a drama or comedy? I think it's

1002
00:51:35,560 --> 00:51:38,400
Speaker 1: gonna be a comedy. I couldn't tell from the script

1003
00:51:40,640 --> 00:51:46,879
Speaker 1: because it's j LO and it's content. It's to meet

1004
00:51:47,440 --> 00:51:51,080
Speaker 1: carties in it. Pretty I didn't know that. Pretty Julius

1005
00:51:51,239 --> 00:51:53,200
Speaker 1: to me what it feels like at least from the

1006
00:51:53,239 --> 00:51:55,239
Speaker 1: press is it looks like it's going to be like

1007
00:51:55,239 --> 00:51:57,440
Speaker 1: an Ocean's eight situation where you laugh but you're more

1008
00:51:57,440 --> 00:51:59,680
Speaker 1: in power. This is the thing. It's I love that

1009
00:51:59,680 --> 00:52:02,759
Speaker 1: there's a cultural thing that's happening with scammers where like

1010
00:52:02,760 --> 00:52:06,160
Speaker 1: your Elizabeth's homes, your firefests, like you're fucking what's her name?

1011
00:52:06,320 --> 00:52:10,799
Speaker 1: Um um Anna Delvi who just like she was the original.

1012
00:52:11,280 --> 00:52:13,959
Speaker 1: She's just like I just like to get well, even

1013
00:52:13,960 --> 00:52:17,320
Speaker 1: like Blingering Ship, Like Blingering was so ahead of its time,

1014
00:52:17,480 --> 00:52:23,120
Speaker 1: like fucking loves Snires. We robbed Adrean that was so

1015
00:52:23,160 --> 00:52:28,359
Speaker 1: goods calling um but what was gonna say? Oh no.

1016
00:52:28,440 --> 00:52:30,640
Speaker 1: So it's interesting that there's this cultural thing that's happening

1017
00:52:30,640 --> 00:52:34,120
Speaker 1: now with like scammers being like wow, what what are

1018
00:52:34,160 --> 00:52:36,200
Speaker 1: the minds of these people? But now also it's like

1019
00:52:36,239 --> 00:52:39,000
Speaker 1: after Oceans eight, you've got the dirty rotten scoundals genderal

1020
00:52:39,080 --> 00:52:42,040
Speaker 1: gender flip thing, where's an hathmanh my gosh are called

1021
00:52:42,040 --> 00:52:45,480
Speaker 1: the hustle the hustle cute And then like this strip

1022
00:52:45,520 --> 00:52:49,920
Speaker 1: of movie, I think there's just more like scamming movies

1023
00:52:50,200 --> 00:52:53,719
Speaker 1: maybe that are specifically female a lot anyway, Okay, but

1024
00:52:53,760 --> 00:52:57,120
Speaker 1: talk us through now and then let's go back Elizabeth

1025
00:52:57,120 --> 00:53:05,320
Speaker 1: what's her name Dickinson, Dickenson, Dickenson, Emily just Emily was

1026
00:53:05,360 --> 00:53:08,440
Speaker 1: playing Emily Dickinson and they talk modern but it's set

1027
00:53:08,520 --> 00:53:11,200
Speaker 1: in period. And are we talking Sophia copeless situation? Are

1028
00:53:11,200 --> 00:53:13,759
Speaker 1: we talking good or bad? We're talking it looks good great.

1029
00:53:14,800 --> 00:53:17,920
Speaker 1: Jane Krokowski plays the mom why did I just say?

1030
00:53:18,000 --> 00:53:21,120
Speaker 1: Jenni Moroni voices into the mic, you did say that,

1031
00:53:21,360 --> 00:53:25,839
Speaker 1: you did say you did? Jane is so good. Jane

1032
00:53:25,920 --> 00:53:30,320
Speaker 1: Drokowski is an icon. I actually think her best comedic

1033
00:53:30,400 --> 00:53:32,439
Speaker 1: moment like and there have been so many, but I'll

1034
00:53:32,520 --> 00:53:35,080
Speaker 1: never get over. In the pilot of Unbreakable Kimi Schmidt

1035
00:53:35,120 --> 00:53:44,400
Speaker 1: when she offers uh Fiji water to Kimmy want that

1036
00:53:44,640 --> 00:53:48,160
Speaker 1: is such a funny jobs, like opening a fridge and

1037
00:53:48,480 --> 00:53:51,560
Speaker 1: revealing that chok full of Fiji water? Do you want one?

1038
00:53:51,640 --> 00:53:56,360
Speaker 1: She says no, and she throws it out. That character

1039
00:53:57,360 --> 00:54:00,480
Speaker 1: choice good and the way she throws it out like

1040
00:54:01,040 --> 00:54:03,200
Speaker 1: no hesitation, just well, she doesn't want it, so I'm

1041
00:54:03,239 --> 00:54:06,120
Speaker 1: throwing it out. I still don't know I feel about

1042
00:54:06,160 --> 00:54:10,200
Speaker 1: the Native American arc. I know I'm gonna bravely say

1043
00:54:10,800 --> 00:54:13,000
Speaker 1: I think like I think it's funny. I think they're

1044
00:54:13,120 --> 00:54:16,799
Speaker 1: very aware. I think like the people on that show,

1045
00:54:16,880 --> 00:54:21,520
Speaker 1: we're very aware of, yes, the ridiculously absurdity of it,

1046
00:54:21,719 --> 00:54:26,560
Speaker 1: and that's why exactly, and people responded the way they

1047
00:54:26,600 --> 00:54:29,080
Speaker 1: were expected to respond. But I mean, I think about it,

1048
00:54:29,200 --> 00:54:32,319
Speaker 1: I laugh that show is a cartoon. Nothing exists in

1049
00:54:32,360 --> 00:54:36,239
Speaker 1: the world like truly, honestly, it's it's so heightened. I

1050
00:54:36,280 --> 00:54:39,239
Speaker 1: just feel like with Dirty Rock and with Unbreakable, the

1051
00:54:39,280 --> 00:54:43,359
Speaker 1: world is so heightened you just gotta laugh. Come on,

1052
00:54:44,560 --> 00:54:50,240
Speaker 1: I got kid here. That is my sense of humor,

1053
00:54:50,520 --> 00:54:52,319
Speaker 1: like when I read it, like like when I sit

1054
00:54:52,400 --> 00:54:54,480
Speaker 1: down to write, like the stuff that like from my

1055
00:54:54,520 --> 00:54:58,279
Speaker 1: own voice, and I feel like it's like everything might

1056
00:54:58,320 --> 00:55:00,920
Speaker 1: as well be a cartoon. I that I respond to that,

1057
00:55:00,960 --> 00:55:04,280
Speaker 1: and also just like the whole like Tina fe Robert

1058
00:55:04,360 --> 00:55:09,080
Speaker 1: Carlock like style of just like joke joke, even when

1059
00:55:09,120 --> 00:55:14,200
Speaker 1: it's like even when it's too fucking mouth, I feel

1060
00:55:14,200 --> 00:55:16,560
Speaker 1: like I love it. I feel like people our age

1061
00:55:16,560 --> 00:55:20,000
Speaker 1: have had just enough distance from thirty Rock Now where

1062
00:55:20,040 --> 00:55:22,160
Speaker 1: I go. I watched an episode for the first time

1063
00:55:22,160 --> 00:55:25,319
Speaker 1: in like months or no, not months, like a year

1064
00:55:25,360 --> 00:55:27,520
Speaker 1: and a half, and I was just like holy sh it,

1065
00:55:27,600 --> 00:55:32,680
Speaker 1: this is like this a this like for good, like

1066
00:55:32,880 --> 00:55:35,239
Speaker 1: people still are trying to emulate this voice and be

1067
00:55:35,440 --> 00:55:39,200
Speaker 1: like so funny. See, like the legacy of it is

1068
00:55:39,239 --> 00:55:43,280
Speaker 1: so strong. I just feel like And also, Kimmy Schmidt

1069
00:55:43,360 --> 00:55:47,280
Speaker 1: was so fucking brilliant. Did you see the episode last

1070
00:55:47,880 --> 00:55:53,239
Speaker 1: which the Last Year with t J with DJ finger

1071
00:55:53,320 --> 00:55:56,800
Speaker 1: Blast played by Derek Klana who's a friend of mine actually,

1072
00:55:57,280 --> 00:56:00,200
Speaker 1: And it was a whole like making them were a

1073
00:56:00,280 --> 00:56:06,920
Speaker 1: type documentary. It was so funny. It was so fucking funny,

1074
00:56:07,160 --> 00:56:09,480
Speaker 1: and truly almost none of the major characters were even

1075
00:56:09,520 --> 00:56:15,120
Speaker 1: in it. So Adie Bryant, fucking Adie Bryant is so

1076
00:56:15,200 --> 00:56:22,200
Speaker 1: funny as the John Hamm's like girlfriends. Oh my god,

1077
00:56:22,719 --> 00:56:25,400
Speaker 1: that's great. She's like in denial about the fact that

1078
00:56:25,480 --> 00:56:29,160
Speaker 1: like he's got like more more women like girlfriends. It's

1079
00:56:29,239 --> 00:56:32,520
Speaker 1: just so funny. I love that truly, everything everything about

1080
00:56:32,560 --> 00:56:36,080
Speaker 1: Unbreakable kamis shmiant. I love that funny. I like when

1081
00:56:36,080 --> 00:56:39,280
Speaker 1: things don't exist on planet Earth. It's totally totally totally

1082
00:56:39,360 --> 00:56:42,000
Speaker 1: I mean, it's Spider Man. Too many Spider Man, what

1083
00:56:42,120 --> 00:56:46,640
Speaker 1: is it? Oh god, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, there's nothing

1084
00:56:46,719 --> 00:56:49,239
Speaker 1: like it. Oh my god, um, say so now? And

1085
00:56:49,280 --> 00:56:52,360
Speaker 1: then if they remade it, what's the cast? Oh my god,

1086
00:56:53,320 --> 00:56:57,040
Speaker 1: how do we do it? Oh god, I don't know actors.

1087
00:56:57,040 --> 00:56:59,040
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, the pretty girl with the boobs? And

1088
00:56:59,680 --> 00:57:02,040
Speaker 1: what to the plot? Because I'm like, because I'll give you,

1089
00:57:02,080 --> 00:57:04,160
Speaker 1: guys other culture, because I feel like I want to

1090
00:57:04,280 --> 00:57:06,799
Speaker 1: enjoy and celebrate something that you guys have experienced as well,

1091
00:57:06,840 --> 00:57:10,560
Speaker 1: either tangentially or actually, fine, you give you give some culture,

1092
00:57:10,600 --> 00:57:12,239
Speaker 1: and then I want to ask you about something in

1093
00:57:12,280 --> 00:57:14,480
Speaker 1: culture that I think you do respond to. Okay, I

1094
00:57:14,520 --> 00:57:16,680
Speaker 1: love this. Ready, I'll give a list all the Harry

1095
00:57:16,680 --> 00:57:21,400
Speaker 1: Potter books. Yeah, come on, you are you are a child,

1096
00:57:22,080 --> 00:57:25,560
Speaker 1: I'm a child? All those you are? Share horror? What's

1097
00:57:25,560 --> 00:57:30,280
Speaker 1: his cousin? Thank you so much? Like I did? They

1098
00:57:30,320 --> 00:57:32,680
Speaker 1: really did. Because here's anything I have. I have lists

1099
00:57:32,720 --> 00:57:34,160
Speaker 1: what I wrote when I was like, gosh, I want

1100
00:57:34,160 --> 00:57:36,919
Speaker 1: to say six Like, I've list that has the entire

1101
00:57:36,960 --> 00:57:39,840
Speaker 1: cast of Clueless except for none of the men's names,

1102
00:57:39,920 --> 00:57:42,160
Speaker 1: just how they related to the women and my name.

1103
00:57:42,400 --> 00:57:47,040
Speaker 1: So it's like share dion Tye morgen Um, Ty's boyfriend,

1104
00:57:47,400 --> 00:57:50,760
Speaker 1: Dion's man um like what it was? It was a

1105
00:57:50,800 --> 00:57:55,480
Speaker 1: shares cute half brother in parentheses Josh like and like

1106
00:57:55,640 --> 00:57:59,479
Speaker 1: truly that movie, Oh my god, I was thinking about

1107
00:57:59,520 --> 00:58:02,520
Speaker 1: the other day, like even just like from a directorial standpoint,

1108
00:58:02,560 --> 00:58:05,920
Speaker 1: like the iconic shots like oh, in the writer hom

1109
00:58:05,920 --> 00:58:09,160
Speaker 1: we were for some reason put on fancy by Iggy Azalea,

1110
00:58:09,680 --> 00:58:12,720
Speaker 1: and just like that it's a good music video, we

1111
00:58:12,760 --> 00:58:16,400
Speaker 1: should say, and um give her that credit, um, even

1112
00:58:16,400 --> 00:58:21,760
Speaker 1: though it wasn't probably her, But just like I thought about,

1113
00:58:21,760 --> 00:58:25,200
Speaker 1: like how like the shots are so iconic, like for example,

1114
00:58:25,240 --> 00:58:30,920
Speaker 1: like them standing up against the fence, when the outfits iconic,

1115
00:58:31,480 --> 00:58:34,280
Speaker 1: like just like the costume design, the art, direction of

1116
00:58:34,280 --> 00:58:36,720
Speaker 1: it all, like just the direction of it all, like

1117
00:58:36,960 --> 00:58:40,560
Speaker 1: them with their walking talk shares a voice over walking

1118
00:58:40,560 --> 00:58:42,200
Speaker 1: talk and the guy coming up and her pushing away

1119
00:58:42,200 --> 00:58:45,440
Speaker 1: and saying as if just like truly everything there are

1120
00:58:45,560 --> 00:58:48,560
Speaker 1: so even every single theater screen with the outfits, like

1121
00:58:48,640 --> 00:58:53,400
Speaker 1: even that almost everything at her vanity, it's like, oh

1122
00:58:53,400 --> 00:58:56,120
Speaker 1: my god. And then the famous lines that come from

1123
00:58:56,160 --> 00:58:59,200
Speaker 1: like yeah, I hope not sporadically, yeah, it's like, oh

1124
00:58:59,240 --> 00:59:04,120
Speaker 1: my god, my bad. Like truly, so many things like

1125
00:59:04,240 --> 00:59:08,320
Speaker 1: started with Red Segull, It's like, oh my god, play

1126
00:59:08,360 --> 00:59:12,960
Speaker 1: suck and blow suck and below let's play suck and blow.

1127
00:59:13,040 --> 00:59:18,520
Speaker 1: It's sucking blow and I'll sucking suck. What an amazing movie. Wait,

1128
00:59:18,720 --> 00:59:23,000
Speaker 1: what am I going to tell her grandchildren? Yeah? I

1129
00:59:23,120 --> 00:59:27,560
Speaker 1: do not wear polyoster, not like some girls like show.

1130
00:59:28,440 --> 00:59:30,640
Speaker 1: Donald is so good and this is so good at

1131
00:59:30,640 --> 00:59:32,720
Speaker 1: that with his licking his teeth and that one scene

1132
00:59:32,720 --> 00:59:35,280
Speaker 1: when it's shaving his head. I'm like, ah, that shot,

1133
00:59:36,000 --> 00:59:44,760
Speaker 1: that's it. I'm calling your mother bad one back in

1134
00:59:44,840 --> 00:59:46,480
Speaker 1: the day, and she had a good one. Well she

1135
00:59:46,720 --> 00:59:49,959
Speaker 1: made good choices. Yeah, she made fantastic dresses. It's sad

1136
00:59:50,040 --> 00:59:52,200
Speaker 1: because she's like kinda in that movie. And now you think,

1137
00:59:52,240 --> 00:59:54,960
Speaker 1: like you can't picture them all getting together and getting

1138
00:59:55,000 --> 00:59:58,440
Speaker 1: lunch right because they see that Lysia Strown is now

1139
00:59:58,520 --> 01:00:02,360
Speaker 1: like this vegan mama that like, and it's just like,

1140
01:00:02,440 --> 01:00:05,800
Speaker 1: that's not Stacy that they are. They in fact, are

1141
01:00:05,880 --> 01:00:11,560
Speaker 1: diametrically opposed. Where's Amber is the real question. I piped

1142
01:00:11,560 --> 01:00:13,880
Speaker 1: her Instagram like a couple of months ago. She seems

1143
01:00:13,880 --> 01:00:19,160
Speaker 1: like she's doing great. Ambuler a ambuler. My doctor says,

1144
01:00:19,200 --> 01:00:21,320
Speaker 1: I'm not allowed to do any activity, wear balls fly

1145
01:00:21,440 --> 01:00:26,160
Speaker 1: at my face. Say, well, there goes social life. So good,

1146
01:00:27,440 --> 01:00:29,800
Speaker 1: Stacy was so good at that she I mean looks

1147
01:00:29,880 --> 01:00:32,640
Speaker 1: she's just good. Also the line when when she comes

1148
01:00:32,680 --> 01:00:35,480
Speaker 1: out of the we were both named after famous singers

1149
01:00:35,480 --> 01:00:41,720
Speaker 1: who now do infommercials. Oh that good again. That is

1150
01:00:41,960 --> 01:00:46,160
Speaker 1: a big world with joke jokeokeokeoke, virgin who can't drive

1151
01:00:47,640 --> 01:00:56,040
Speaker 1: harsh tie. I'm really sorry. Yeah a Maudie nineties. Oh

1152
01:00:56,080 --> 01:00:57,880
Speaker 1: my god, you know you guys know what movie. Brittany

1153
01:00:57,920 --> 01:01:00,760
Speaker 1: Murphy is so good in Uptown Girls, Uptown Girls writing

1154
01:01:00,760 --> 01:01:03,680
Speaker 1: in cars with boys amazing. No, this is the thing.

1155
01:01:04,120 --> 01:01:08,640
Speaker 1: This is the thing. Brittany Murphy is iconic. She would

1156
01:01:08,680 --> 01:01:11,120
Speaker 1: have won an oscar one day, she would have lost

1157
01:01:11,160 --> 01:01:14,760
Speaker 1: Vegas even in the Ashton Kutcher movie I loved. She

1158
01:01:14,800 --> 01:01:17,600
Speaker 1: makes it look easy. Brittany Murphy used to make it

1159
01:01:17,600 --> 01:01:20,520
Speaker 1: look very easy to be that charming and that specific

1160
01:01:21,040 --> 01:01:25,720
Speaker 1: and honestly like really brought that character of tied to

1161
01:01:25,800 --> 01:01:28,640
Speaker 1: life like it which she was perfect. And even I

1162
01:01:28,640 --> 01:01:30,800
Speaker 1: don't think it's necessarily fair for me to say this,

1163
01:01:30,840 --> 01:01:32,640
Speaker 1: but even she might have been like a Jennifer Anderson

1164
01:01:32,720 --> 01:01:34,760
Speaker 1: Rosio Donald where she did one. She didn't play too

1165
01:01:34,840 --> 01:01:37,040
Speaker 1: much outside of arrangement. She did it well. Remember, don't

1166
01:01:37,080 --> 01:01:41,640
Speaker 1: say a word, So what is that you don't remember?

1167
01:01:41,640 --> 01:01:43,960
Speaker 1: Don't say we're with that? With Douglas, she like she

1168
01:01:44,000 --> 01:01:45,800
Speaker 1: put like she was in like a mental facility or

1169
01:01:46,080 --> 01:01:50,760
Speaker 1: she wasn't. Girl dropped it fantastic, take it back and

1170
01:01:50,840 --> 01:01:53,800
Speaker 1: take it back. So I enjoyed. We miss you, Brittany,

1171
01:01:54,240 --> 01:01:59,320
Speaker 1: Brittany because I was released. And then Angelina Jolie fucking

1172
01:01:59,480 --> 01:02:01,680
Speaker 1: lazy and her with the monologue that won her in

1173
01:02:01,760 --> 01:02:05,480
Speaker 1: ospar get I think about she is my grandmother. You

1174
01:02:05,600 --> 01:02:09,560
Speaker 1: are a child of Angelina. Do you want to know

1175
01:02:09,600 --> 01:02:13,000
Speaker 1: some tea I heard about Angelina Jolie. Maybe she fucking

1176
01:02:13,040 --> 01:02:17,560
Speaker 1: loves Survivor. That's great. And because she goes to Survivor

1177
01:02:17,640 --> 01:02:20,440
Speaker 1: watch parties with all her kids, that's so fun. I

1178
01:02:20,480 --> 01:02:23,520
Speaker 1: like that. And and that they all watched Survivor. Did

1179
01:02:23,600 --> 01:02:28,240
Speaker 1: you know the Survivor is looking still huge, still on. Yes,

1180
01:02:28,640 --> 01:02:30,520
Speaker 1: you can't even believe how thriving it is. My sister

1181
01:02:30,560 --> 01:02:32,880
Speaker 1: wants to be honest. There's a cultural ship happening with

1182
01:02:33,000 --> 01:02:36,280
Speaker 1: Survivor where it kind of because I think this happened

1183
01:02:36,320 --> 01:02:38,840
Speaker 1: for the Bachelor to where for a while it dipped

1184
01:02:39,240 --> 01:02:43,320
Speaker 1: and then no one and now it's back. You're about

1185
01:02:43,320 --> 01:02:45,760
Speaker 1: your Bachelor Nation. Well, I watched for a few I

1186
01:02:45,800 --> 01:02:49,720
Speaker 1: started again with Rachel Lindsay, right, I loved I loved her,

1187
01:02:49,800 --> 01:02:52,160
Speaker 1: and then I thought that was the best season. Shocked

1188
01:02:52,160 --> 01:02:54,000
Speaker 1: it well, and I guess not shocked because the world

1189
01:02:54,080 --> 01:02:57,280
Speaker 1: is literal garbage. I couldn't believe when I heard that

1190
01:02:57,280 --> 01:02:59,200
Speaker 1: that was like one of the lower rated seasons. And

1191
01:02:59,240 --> 01:03:04,000
Speaker 1: then I remembered, despite the fact that her head and

1192
01:03:04,040 --> 01:03:07,000
Speaker 1: Shoulders being the best batch, she is Like I think

1193
01:03:07,000 --> 01:03:08,880
Speaker 1: about her, I'm like, I hope you're happy. I love

1194
01:03:08,920 --> 01:03:11,280
Speaker 1: you so much. Think well, you believed, you believe that,

1195
01:03:11,400 --> 01:03:14,360
Speaker 1: like all these men wanted to fight for her affection. Absolutely,

1196
01:03:14,680 --> 01:03:16,920
Speaker 1: I was like, yes, she is a not a prize,

1197
01:03:16,960 --> 01:03:19,120
Speaker 1: but you saw her on the street. You just want

1198
01:03:19,120 --> 01:03:21,040
Speaker 1: to talk to her. She has that effortvescence. She has

1199
01:03:21,080 --> 01:03:23,600
Speaker 1: that glow where you're just like, Hi, I hope you

1200
01:03:23,680 --> 01:03:26,200
Speaker 1: have a great day. Yes, yes, yes. That's my problem

1201
01:03:26,200 --> 01:03:28,440
Speaker 1: with the general conceit of those shows where there's one

1202
01:03:28,520 --> 01:03:31,960
Speaker 1: object of affection. I'm like, really, everyone wants to fall

1203
01:03:32,040 --> 01:03:35,880
Speaker 1: over the fall over themselves to marry you can't. Well,

1204
01:03:35,880 --> 01:03:38,320
Speaker 1: then there's like there's a whole psychological aspect to it too, right,

1205
01:03:38,360 --> 01:03:40,120
Speaker 1: which is like you cut the people off from society

1206
01:03:40,160 --> 01:03:42,160
Speaker 1: for months, and of course they're gonna think this, They're

1207
01:03:42,160 --> 01:03:45,640
Speaker 1: gonna have a cultish mentality around it exactly. But with her,

1208
01:03:45,720 --> 01:03:48,840
Speaker 1: I was like, this season really works because I believe

1209
01:03:49,000 --> 01:03:52,240
Speaker 1: that all these men would chime in love with Rachel,

1210
01:03:52,280 --> 01:03:54,160
Speaker 1: eyes of You and in love with Race exactly. And

1211
01:03:54,200 --> 01:03:56,880
Speaker 1: I agree with her and everything she did. She she

1212
01:03:57,000 --> 01:03:59,280
Speaker 1: had me the whole season until she picked Brian. That

1213
01:03:59,360 --> 01:04:02,880
Speaker 1: was with So Peter was Madison, Wisconsin's own. I ran

1214
01:04:02,920 --> 01:04:05,400
Speaker 1: into him and so I did, Okay, I did, and

1215
01:04:05,440 --> 01:04:07,560
Speaker 1: I did this okay. So sometimes when I get nervous

1216
01:04:07,680 --> 01:04:10,960
Speaker 1: or like over excited, anything's so bad um or like

1217
01:04:11,160 --> 01:04:13,000
Speaker 1: like truly I am like a child where it's like

1218
01:04:13,000 --> 01:04:16,320
Speaker 1: one drink, excited and nervous, angry anything, It's just like

1219
01:04:16,400 --> 01:04:19,880
Speaker 1: like what's up? And so I went. I passed him

1220
01:04:19,880 --> 01:04:21,760
Speaker 1: and he was so handsome and he had that perfect

1221
01:04:21,800 --> 01:04:24,280
Speaker 1: gap tooth and I was like, Hi, I'm from Addison,

1222
01:04:24,800 --> 01:04:27,720
Speaker 1: and he because hi, and he starts to talking. I

1223
01:04:27,760 --> 01:04:30,320
Speaker 1: just want to say, you're great. And Tim Plat was

1224
01:04:30,360 --> 01:04:33,040
Speaker 1: with me, and Tim's about your head, sweetest, mean, alive,

1225
01:04:33,160 --> 01:04:36,880
Speaker 1: like creative collabor day later and he Tim's watching me,

1226
01:04:36,880 --> 01:04:40,880
Speaker 1: and I'm going, okay, um, so we're gonna go, And

1227
01:04:40,880 --> 01:04:42,320
Speaker 1: then like he looked like he was going to engage,

1228
01:04:42,320 --> 01:04:44,840
Speaker 1: and I was like, and I truly ran away. Probably

1229
01:04:44,840 --> 01:04:46,720
Speaker 1: could have gotten a dat out. I absolutely could have.

1230
01:04:46,800 --> 01:04:50,680
Speaker 1: I know that for sure. I felt confordable as he

1231
01:04:50,760 --> 01:04:55,680
Speaker 1: is on the show. He's taller, he's stronger, He so handsome.

1232
01:04:55,840 --> 01:04:58,479
Speaker 1: It's crazy, and I'm like, oh my gosh, you come

1233
01:04:58,720 --> 01:05:01,480
Speaker 1: from my people, like you understand like how to eat

1234
01:05:01,560 --> 01:05:03,600
Speaker 1: just like only bread and white foods, you know, like

1235
01:05:04,240 --> 01:05:07,040
Speaker 1: it would be really nice crying what that scene where

1236
01:05:07,040 --> 01:05:09,680
Speaker 1: they did you watch that? I didn't. I didn't watch

1237
01:05:09,760 --> 01:05:11,760
Speaker 1: this scene where they broke up because they just like

1238
01:05:11,840 --> 01:05:16,400
Speaker 1: hit a wall. It was it was so hard hard

1239
01:05:16,680 --> 01:05:19,800
Speaker 1: to watch because it was like watching him really cry

1240
01:05:19,960 --> 01:05:23,400
Speaker 1: and like her really cry. And then like when it

1241
01:05:23,520 --> 01:05:25,640
Speaker 1: ended up being Brian after watching that whole section of

1242
01:05:25,720 --> 01:05:28,880
Speaker 1: that episode where it was like watching them obviously want

1243
01:05:28,880 --> 01:05:31,640
Speaker 1: to be together, and I was like this and coming

1244
01:05:31,720 --> 01:05:33,880
Speaker 1: up against the parameters of the show, being like he

1245
01:05:33,960 --> 01:05:35,640
Speaker 1: was like, I really would like to date you. I'm

1246
01:05:35,640 --> 01:05:38,480
Speaker 1: actually feeling really afraid of commitment right now. But and

1247
01:05:38,480 --> 01:05:41,160
Speaker 1: then she's like, no, this is the show, Like I understand.

1248
01:05:41,200 --> 01:05:42,720
Speaker 1: It's almost like she was like, please just like go

1249
01:05:42,840 --> 01:05:47,080
Speaker 1: through these motions. But yeah, he was, which is like

1250
01:05:47,160 --> 01:05:49,640
Speaker 1: unfortunate because you know her, she's a smart woman. She

1251
01:05:49,960 --> 01:05:52,960
Speaker 1: like she would have figured out something for them. I

1252
01:05:53,000 --> 01:05:55,480
Speaker 1: mean it's it's literally, it's like it's like, what are

1253
01:05:55,480 --> 01:05:58,120
Speaker 1: the rules anyway? Situations like you but you get engaged

1254
01:05:58,240 --> 01:06:00,320
Speaker 1: and you don't you get a Neil Diamond ring and

1255
01:06:00,320 --> 01:06:02,800
Speaker 1: then you just keep it. But he I think the Madison,

1256
01:06:02,840 --> 01:06:06,160
Speaker 1: Wisconsin jumped out. I think the traditionalism jumped out. That's

1257
01:06:06,160 --> 01:06:09,480
Speaker 1: what first of all, we should reference. We should say

1258
01:06:09,480 --> 01:06:11,040
Speaker 1: that that is a reference that jumped out as a

1259
01:06:11,160 --> 01:06:14,960
Speaker 1: reference to another reality show, Charms School, where Monique says

1260
01:06:15,000 --> 01:06:21,200
Speaker 1: to Pumpkin, remember when Pumpkins, Yes, I watched every vage

1261
01:06:21,200 --> 01:06:25,320
Speaker 1: one show ever, like the Surreal Life it Charms kept

1262
01:06:25,360 --> 01:06:27,600
Speaker 1: Remember that one with Jerry Hall had all those boys.

1263
01:06:27,800 --> 01:06:30,600
Speaker 1: Oh no, that was a really good one. Charms School,

1264
01:06:30,760 --> 01:06:34,080
Speaker 1: Charms Charms did you Charm School? First behavior last night

1265
01:06:34,200 --> 01:06:39,560
Speaker 1: was horror like there jumped out or jumped out, and

1266
01:06:39,560 --> 01:06:43,320
Speaker 1: then it jumped back in. But it jumped out. The

1267
01:06:43,400 --> 01:06:48,760
Speaker 1: horror jumped out. But the Atomy Award winner Monique so

1268
01:06:48,880 --> 01:06:53,520
Speaker 1: a human woman said last night was like the horror

1269
01:06:53,880 --> 01:06:56,520
Speaker 1: jumped out and then it jumped back in, but it

1270
01:06:56,600 --> 01:07:03,320
Speaker 1: jumped out the horror jump the horror jumped out, jump

1271
01:07:03,400 --> 01:07:08,480
Speaker 1: a horn jumping out, pure ump out like a banshee

1272
01:07:08,520 --> 01:07:10,840
Speaker 1: from your sphere, like just sucks on a dick. Because

1273
01:07:10,960 --> 01:07:13,480
Speaker 1: that is that is such a satisfying season of television

1274
01:07:13,480 --> 01:07:15,080
Speaker 1: if you watch it back, because I think it did

1275
01:07:15,080 --> 01:07:17,600
Speaker 1: succeed in the mission where it was like the outfits,

1276
01:07:17,680 --> 01:07:20,800
Speaker 1: we need outfits, but it succeeded in what its mission was,

1277
01:07:20,840 --> 01:07:23,800
Speaker 1: which is just to like have these women like whatever,

1278
01:07:23,880 --> 01:07:26,840
Speaker 1: like maybe like is a little problematic. This was the

1279
01:07:26,880 --> 01:07:28,640
Speaker 1: goal fights where the goal physical fights for the goal,

1280
01:07:28,680 --> 01:07:29,840
Speaker 1: but it was a problematic for them to be like

1281
01:07:29,920 --> 01:07:32,680
Speaker 1: less trash like the Bad Girls Club on Oxygen. It

1282
01:07:32,720 --> 01:07:35,800
Speaker 1: is a little class gross to be like will make

1283
01:07:35,800 --> 01:07:41,440
Speaker 1: you less trashy. But it was satisfying to watch. And Safierri,

1284
01:07:41,520 --> 01:07:43,640
Speaker 1: who won the whole season, was amazing and she had

1285
01:07:43,680 --> 01:07:46,040
Speaker 1: such a good arc and she had the best art

1286
01:07:46,120 --> 01:07:48,520
Speaker 1: because she got eliminated before she even got a name

1287
01:07:48,560 --> 01:07:51,640
Speaker 1: on Flavor of Love season two. Remember this Safire he

1288
01:07:51,720 --> 01:07:54,600
Speaker 1: got into a fight with with this poor woman. I

1289
01:07:54,640 --> 01:07:57,160
Speaker 1: forget who it was, but they fought over and then

1290
01:07:57,440 --> 01:08:00,960
Speaker 1: this woman they fight over bad. This woman takes the

1291
01:08:00,960 --> 01:08:03,920
Speaker 1: bouquet flowers and starts hitting Saffirius Ifire grabs onto her

1292
01:08:03,920 --> 01:08:06,280
Speaker 1: hair and then Safiri just goes, don't you hit me

1293
01:08:06,320 --> 01:08:11,320
Speaker 1: with flowers? And they fight and then she gets picked out.

1294
01:08:11,720 --> 01:08:15,800
Speaker 1: And then at Charms School, Monique does this whole ceremony

1295
01:08:15,800 --> 01:08:17,799
Speaker 1: where she like where she has all the girls step

1296
01:08:17,920 --> 01:08:19,840
Speaker 1: step up and reveal their real names, and then she

1297
01:08:20,680 --> 01:08:24,160
Speaker 1: she like takes so she divorces the flavor flame names

1298
01:08:24,840 --> 01:08:26,960
Speaker 1: from their names, and then it gets to Sufire. It's

1299
01:08:26,960 --> 01:08:29,639
Speaker 1: like Pumpkin, what's your real name? It's this is never

1300
01:08:29,640 --> 01:08:31,479
Speaker 1: going to be that again? Yeah, like what like like

1301
01:08:31,800 --> 01:08:33,599
Speaker 1: red Oyster, what was your real name? It's that red

1302
01:08:33,680 --> 01:08:37,240
Speaker 1: Oyster Oyster hoops, what's your real name? And then they

1303
01:08:37,240 --> 01:08:39,519
Speaker 1: get to Safi Reid. Monique goes, so we're going to

1304
01:08:39,560 --> 01:08:43,680
Speaker 1: give up that terrible name. No remember, so tell me

1305
01:08:43,720 --> 01:08:45,519
Speaker 1: what your real name is and then i Fire just goes,

1306
01:08:46,400 --> 01:08:50,320
Speaker 1: it's a fire like I didn't get a name, and

1307
01:08:50,400 --> 01:08:55,639
Speaker 1: so the firies my real name. It's beautiful television who

1308
01:08:55,760 --> 01:09:00,240
Speaker 1: is fascinating? Monique is father going from being to the

1309
01:09:00,240 --> 01:09:04,880
Speaker 1: stand up legends the Queens of Comedy too, charm School

1310
01:09:04,960 --> 01:09:10,439
Speaker 1: whatever too. Honestly, what was beer Fest? Remember? Beer Fest

1311
01:09:12,920 --> 01:09:15,240
Speaker 1: movie was I'm going to Break your dick off. Every

1312
01:09:15,280 --> 01:09:17,639
Speaker 1: boy in my grade get together and watch that multiple

1313
01:09:17,680 --> 01:09:19,720
Speaker 1: times that year, and I just like, can you guys

1314
01:09:19,760 --> 01:09:22,000
Speaker 1: hang out? I saw it in the shitty movie theater

1315
01:09:22,200 --> 01:09:28,600
Speaker 1: Original Cock Destroyer Monique, Original Cock Destroyer Monique. Then Precious

1316
01:09:28,640 --> 01:09:31,759
Speaker 1: based on the novel pushed by Sapphire immediately after Pademy

1317
01:09:31,800 --> 01:09:36,640
Speaker 1: Award winner in an incredible performance and then disgraced and

1318
01:09:36,680 --> 01:09:41,320
Speaker 1: blacklisted by certain sections of Hollywood for for for shitty reasons. Well,

1319
01:09:41,360 --> 01:09:45,840
Speaker 1: she's been fully blacklisted by truly Oprah and Tyler Perry,

1320
01:09:45,880 --> 01:09:49,120
Speaker 1: which is psycho and also Lee Daniels, like they still

1321
01:09:49,200 --> 01:09:51,559
Speaker 1: feel like remember the whole Steve Harvard that just happened,

1322
01:09:51,720 --> 01:09:54,000
Speaker 1: That was a whole thing. Yes, yes, did you not

1323
01:09:54,040 --> 01:09:58,639
Speaker 1: know about this? No? So basically, when Precious was coming out,

1324
01:10:00,160 --> 01:10:03,800
Speaker 1: there was obligations or like assumed obligations on everyone on

1325
01:10:03,840 --> 01:10:07,880
Speaker 1: the cast part to promote it. So they were and yeah,

1326
01:10:07,920 --> 01:10:11,800
Speaker 1: they were invited to Cohn where the film was was

1327
01:10:12,040 --> 01:10:16,439
Speaker 1: being shown, and Monique like declined to go to con

1328
01:10:16,520 --> 01:10:21,640
Speaker 1: because she wasn't being paid to do press, So basically

1329
01:10:21,880 --> 01:10:25,160
Speaker 1: she was not willing to play ball with any promotion.

1330
01:10:25,200 --> 01:10:27,400
Speaker 1: And then she wouldn't campaign for herself to win the

1331
01:10:27,400 --> 01:10:29,600
Speaker 1: Oscar because she felt it would be unfair to do

1332
01:10:29,640 --> 01:10:33,040
Speaker 1: it like politics. And she won the Oscar. Anyway, that's

1333
01:10:33,040 --> 01:10:36,520
Speaker 1: the most legit thing I've heard of, right, But Hollywood's

1334
01:10:36,520 --> 01:10:38,920
Speaker 1: a business, and she didn't play ball, and then it

1335
01:10:38,960 --> 01:10:41,439
Speaker 1: was this whole thing with like it became very public

1336
01:10:41,479 --> 01:10:44,519
Speaker 1: about how and why she wouldn't play ball, and then

1337
01:10:44,720 --> 01:10:49,280
Speaker 1: it got very ugly. Did we figure out legit was

1338
01:10:49,400 --> 01:10:52,320
Speaker 1: just about not being paid to do things, and she

1339
01:10:52,400 --> 01:10:54,840
Speaker 1: was like at the time, she had a B E.

1340
01:10:54,920 --> 01:10:56,640
Speaker 1: T talk show. I don't know if you remember that.

1341
01:10:57,760 --> 01:11:00,800
Speaker 1: But then she ended up losing a lot of it

1342
01:11:00,840 --> 01:11:03,200
Speaker 1: because I think she lost a lot of industry respect,

1343
01:11:03,600 --> 01:11:06,639
Speaker 1: but really just based on the whole like thing of like,

1344
01:11:06,840 --> 01:11:09,679
Speaker 1: she wouldn't play a ball in the way they wanted

1345
01:11:09,680 --> 01:11:11,800
Speaker 1: her to, and then it became public and ugly, And

1346
01:11:11,840 --> 01:11:14,360
Speaker 1: I don't think she's necessarily probably an easy person to

1347
01:11:14,400 --> 01:11:18,240
Speaker 1: deal with, but you know, when you're that talented, that's

1348
01:11:18,240 --> 01:11:20,960
Speaker 1: a groundbreaker. That's someone leaving the party. Even though there

1349
01:11:21,000 --> 01:11:24,680
Speaker 1: was no one's not going to follow them pioneer Relationships

1350
01:11:26,040 --> 01:11:30,280
Speaker 1: relationship Queen, and and not shaving your legs Queen. And

1351
01:11:30,320 --> 01:11:32,600
Speaker 1: I remember like she was asked about her open relationship

1352
01:11:32,640 --> 01:11:35,040
Speaker 1: by some interviewer. It might have been Diane Sawyer or something,

1353
01:11:35,280 --> 01:11:37,960
Speaker 1: but they grilled her about her open relationship. And this

1354
01:11:38,040 --> 01:11:41,160
Speaker 1: was like truly probably like four years ago, three or

1355
01:11:41,200 --> 01:11:43,280
Speaker 1: four years ago, and I was just like something about

1356
01:11:43,360 --> 01:11:45,840
Speaker 1: this feels really weird, like stop, leave her alone. It

1357
01:11:45,880 --> 01:11:47,760
Speaker 1: works for her. And it was this whole thing like

1358
01:11:48,320 --> 01:11:51,200
Speaker 1: it kind of was like remember years ago when Britney

1359
01:11:51,200 --> 01:11:56,760
Speaker 1: Spears said masturbation was secret, I mean, and and Diane sorry,

1360
01:11:56,880 --> 01:12:00,320
Speaker 1: was like it's what and Brittany like that later almost

1361
01:12:00,320 --> 01:12:02,000
Speaker 1: like oh I think I was confused. Sorry, sorry, sorry,

1362
01:12:02,040 --> 01:12:04,080
Speaker 1: I'm like, so you know, that's why Brittany is the

1363
01:12:04,120 --> 01:12:07,880
Speaker 1: way she is now, is because that down every single

1364
01:12:07,880 --> 01:12:10,040
Speaker 1: impulse she ever had so that she could be good

1365
01:12:10,080 --> 01:12:14,639
Speaker 1: for us. Meanwhile, like let her say master, but That's

1366
01:12:14,640 --> 01:12:16,720
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like we're talking at Brenchday, like we

1367
01:12:16,760 --> 01:12:18,760
Speaker 1: have to undo a lot of things that we absorbed

1368
01:12:18,760 --> 01:12:21,439
Speaker 1: because I would see Anne hash and I would be like,

1369
01:12:21,840 --> 01:12:24,160
Speaker 1: oh so you can't you can't like bold Okay, Oh

1370
01:12:24,200 --> 01:12:26,679
Speaker 1: my god, like because everyone was like, she dated Ellen

1371
01:12:26,840 --> 01:12:29,800
Speaker 1: and then she dated a man, so she die. We

1372
01:12:29,840 --> 01:12:33,120
Speaker 1: hate this, And I remember watching that being like sorry, okay,

1373
01:12:33,280 --> 01:12:37,120
Speaker 1: Like like imagine being someone who's like watching that Brittany

1374
01:12:37,160 --> 01:12:39,200
Speaker 1: interview and they and then she shames her for master

1375
01:12:39,280 --> 01:12:42,120
Speaker 1: babingturbating that kid then is not going to touch them.

1376
01:12:42,160 --> 01:12:46,040
Speaker 1: So it's suck. So you know, kid is not going

1377
01:12:46,080 --> 01:12:52,000
Speaker 1: to there, not going to do that. It suck that

1378
01:12:52,040 --> 01:12:53,680
Speaker 1: I didn't know because I hate being like, well, I'm

1379
01:12:53,680 --> 01:12:57,559
Speaker 1: not like that in my head. In my head, I

1380
01:12:57,600 --> 01:12:59,880
Speaker 1: literally saw you like right up on a jet ski,

1381
01:13:00,280 --> 01:13:05,800
Speaker 1: turn around and go the other way like that, and

1382
01:13:05,920 --> 01:13:11,519
Speaker 1: the water you have to go back by. Wow, have

1383
01:13:11,600 --> 01:13:18,440
Speaker 1: you ever written a jet ski? No? I refuse straight culture.

1384
01:13:17,400 --> 01:13:21,280
Speaker 1: It is. It's like there's these things that are still

1385
01:13:21,400 --> 01:13:23,840
Speaker 1: so violently dangerous and people like you haven't jumped out

1386
01:13:23,840 --> 01:13:26,599
Speaker 1: of a fucking plane, and you have because I don't

1387
01:13:26,600 --> 01:13:29,160
Speaker 1: believe you should have had to. That was culture was

1388
01:13:29,200 --> 01:13:31,680
Speaker 1: straight was definitely me jumping out of that plane was

1389
01:13:31,760 --> 01:13:34,600
Speaker 1: absolutely straight culture. So I'm happy that I did it

1390
01:13:34,640 --> 01:13:39,479
Speaker 1: because it feels funny to me now. Yeah, sure, Like

1391
01:13:40,439 --> 01:13:43,760
Speaker 1: I don't think i've ever shown you the video I've

1392
01:13:43,760 --> 01:13:46,160
Speaker 1: never seen the video. I don't I don't care to. Honestly,

1393
01:13:46,560 --> 01:13:51,519
Speaker 1: you've talked about it's like, that's scary, talked about it

1394
01:13:51,560 --> 01:13:53,960
Speaker 1: so many times. I was there. Oh wait, we didn't

1395
01:13:53,960 --> 01:13:55,400
Speaker 1: get to address that. We have made out. I didn't

1396
01:13:55,400 --> 01:14:00,680
Speaker 1: get to straight culture of the thing, man and I.

1397
01:14:00,760 --> 01:14:02,600
Speaker 1: Everyone said we had insane chemistry and we know that

1398
01:14:02,640 --> 01:14:04,479
Speaker 1: because I think we're twins in another life for sure.

1399
01:14:05,000 --> 01:14:07,000
Speaker 1: Oh my god, there's so much to work through. There

1400
01:14:07,040 --> 01:14:09,200
Speaker 1: are a good visual match are you guys are very

1401
01:14:09,240 --> 01:14:11,720
Speaker 1: too good too. We take striking photos together. Long live,

1402
01:14:12,320 --> 01:14:14,160
Speaker 1: long live good. We've been yeeling for like four and

1403
01:14:14,160 --> 01:14:17,640
Speaker 1: a half years. So ho, So you guys are playing detectives?

1404
01:14:17,640 --> 01:14:20,639
Speaker 1: What is going on? So it was the Rejectress pilot,

1405
01:14:21,840 --> 01:14:23,519
Speaker 1: and it was like so funny because it was playing

1406
01:14:23,520 --> 01:14:26,439
Speaker 1: on like um, you know, like Horatio in um uh

1407
01:14:26,560 --> 01:14:28,040
Speaker 1: not c s I maybe c s I where you

1408
01:14:28,080 --> 01:14:31,320
Speaker 1: take his sunglasses off and be like he looks like yeah,

1409
01:14:31,400 --> 01:14:35,000
Speaker 1: like what's his name David or whatever? CSI Miami yeah

1410
01:14:35,400 --> 01:14:38,240
Speaker 1: and he So like it was like playing on that

1411
01:14:38,280 --> 01:14:40,080
Speaker 1: where it was just super horny when there's a dead

1412
01:14:40,120 --> 01:14:43,160
Speaker 1: person in front of you, like straddling the body. Yeah,

1413
01:14:43,479 --> 01:14:45,360
Speaker 1: and so then like we would be like should you

1414
01:14:45,400 --> 01:14:48,080
Speaker 1: go take a sample, and then like it then build

1415
01:14:48,120 --> 01:14:49,960
Speaker 1: and then it was after us. It was Rachel's Winninsky

1416
01:14:50,040 --> 01:14:52,320
Speaker 1: and Brandon Scott Jones, and like both of us would

1417
01:14:52,360 --> 01:14:53,920
Speaker 1: do bits where all the two of us would just

1418
01:14:53,960 --> 01:14:56,800
Speaker 1: get too horny and then fall over onto a dead

1419
01:14:56,800 --> 01:14:59,479
Speaker 1: body making out on it. It was pension became too

1420
01:14:59,560 --> 01:15:02,280
Speaker 1: much and we Funny was playing the dead body. The

1421
01:15:02,280 --> 01:15:04,679
Speaker 1: dead body was played by Nicole silver Brook. Oh my god,

1422
01:15:05,080 --> 01:15:06,800
Speaker 1: so she wasn't we have to include her? She was

1423
01:15:06,840 --> 01:15:10,200
Speaker 1: there forever Dog's own Nicole Silverberok. Please listen to Nicole's

1424
01:15:10,200 --> 01:15:14,439
Speaker 1: Anatomy Dog. But yeah, that we did make out. Now,

1425
01:15:14,560 --> 01:15:16,080
Speaker 1: what did you think of the kiss? I think it

1426
01:15:16,120 --> 01:15:19,519
Speaker 1: was fantastic, really good time. I had a fun afternoon. Whoa,

1427
01:15:22,520 --> 01:15:24,360
Speaker 1: I felt like I started to smell bad after a

1428
01:15:24,400 --> 01:15:26,600
Speaker 1: while because it was in there. It was hot and

1429
01:15:26,600 --> 01:15:28,240
Speaker 1: it was like a warm day. It was a summer day.

1430
01:15:28,520 --> 01:15:32,000
Speaker 1: It was the summer day, this summer day, and you too.

1431
01:15:32,360 --> 01:15:36,200
Speaker 1: I believe. I believe it when people fall in love

1432
01:15:36,240 --> 01:15:38,960
Speaker 1: on set thanks to me, my dream as a kid.

1433
01:15:39,840 --> 01:15:43,000
Speaker 1: And but there's this thing that happens even now where

1434
01:15:43,000 --> 01:15:45,479
Speaker 1: it's like it hasn't really happened to me. Oh no,

1435
01:15:45,560 --> 01:15:47,679
Speaker 1: this happened. This truly happened to me in Brandon Scott

1436
01:15:47,760 --> 01:15:51,040
Speaker 1: Jones where we kissed. We kissed famously in a feature film,

1437
01:15:51,080 --> 01:15:52,920
Speaker 1: in a future film, and I was just like, we

1438
01:15:53,000 --> 01:15:55,639
Speaker 1: kissed like for like a dozen times. Yes, and then

1439
01:15:55,680 --> 01:15:57,280
Speaker 1: you fell in love with him? And afterwards I was like,

1440
01:15:57,400 --> 01:15:59,479
Speaker 1: he felt something, but my brain was just like I

1441
01:15:59,479 --> 01:16:01,599
Speaker 1: would look at him and I left to say bye

1442
01:16:01,600 --> 01:16:03,000
Speaker 1: to him, and it's like by Brandon, and then I

1443
01:16:03,000 --> 01:16:06,479
Speaker 1: walked away and I was like, um, oh, but you're

1444
01:16:06,479 --> 01:16:08,720
Speaker 1: in love with him, like that is your soul. Like

1445
01:16:09,560 --> 01:16:13,680
Speaker 1: it was kind of No, I did not feel that.

1446
01:16:14,720 --> 01:16:20,720
Speaker 1: I didn't I love you. I'm not in love with you. No. Not.

1447
01:16:20,840 --> 01:16:22,920
Speaker 1: You guys are not being honest with your emotions. You

1448
01:16:22,960 --> 01:16:24,360
Speaker 1: guys have to get to the bottom of belief of

1449
01:16:24,400 --> 01:16:28,000
Speaker 1: why you're not attractive. I have never once fallen in love.

1450
01:16:28,120 --> 01:16:31,280
Speaker 1: I've seen many popular video roulette videos where everybody's making

1451
01:16:31,280 --> 01:16:33,320
Speaker 1: out with everybody. I will say that everyone's making out

1452
01:16:33,600 --> 01:16:35,920
Speaker 1: and I have made out so many things then we

1453
01:16:36,000 --> 01:16:38,720
Speaker 1: can ever say that makes me laugh so hard. Yes,

1454
01:16:39,840 --> 01:16:42,840
Speaker 1: did you resolve the love? I did? I did? It

1455
01:16:42,880 --> 01:16:44,680
Speaker 1: was just it was just me saying, like, my it

1456
01:16:44,760 --> 01:16:47,160
Speaker 1: was me acknowledging that my brain was playing tricks on me.

1457
01:16:47,320 --> 01:16:49,640
Speaker 1: That's spooky. Did you ever sell Brandon Scotch that you were?

1458
01:16:49,680 --> 01:16:51,040
Speaker 1: I think so. I think I was just like, oh,

1459
01:16:51,320 --> 01:16:54,280
Speaker 1: I was like, I think I got why. I get

1460
01:16:54,320 --> 01:16:57,280
Speaker 1: why in a director fell in love? There you go?

1461
01:16:57,840 --> 01:17:02,120
Speaker 1: Or that people like too, people who have to constantly

1462
01:17:02,200 --> 01:17:05,639
Speaker 1: for a movie, yeah, or maybe a play even theater.

1463
01:17:05,760 --> 01:17:08,760
Speaker 1: Even I heard I heard T. I heard T that

1464
01:17:09,200 --> 01:17:10,640
Speaker 1: two coaster. I was looked up. Do you want to

1465
01:17:10,640 --> 01:17:13,719
Speaker 1: know who? I heard that? Evan Rachel would and Jimmy

1466
01:17:13,720 --> 01:17:16,519
Speaker 1: Simpson from West World hooked up. Which one's Jimmy Simpson?

1467
01:17:16,640 --> 01:17:20,000
Speaker 1: He played the young man in black like in the

1468
01:17:20,120 --> 01:17:24,759
Speaker 1: in the when you find out hot? Um? I honestly

1469
01:17:25,400 --> 01:17:30,840
Speaker 1: hard as hell for Ed Harrison looks great, has always

1470
01:17:30,840 --> 01:17:35,600
Speaker 1: looked the hottest guy. And that the one that plays um,

1471
01:17:35,800 --> 01:17:39,040
Speaker 1: the one that plays Oh, his name is Roderigo Santaurro.

1472
01:17:39,120 --> 01:17:42,600
Speaker 1: He plays one of the the robots. But he is

1473
01:17:42,640 --> 01:17:46,559
Speaker 1: like the hot, bad cowboy and he sucks Tandy Newton

1474
01:17:46,760 --> 01:17:49,040
Speaker 1: quite a bit. Oh yeah, yeah, that's that one is

1475
01:17:49,080 --> 01:17:52,840
Speaker 1: like and Tandy Newton. The children have forgotten Tandy Newton,

1476
01:17:54,479 --> 01:18:01,160
Speaker 1: and then she wanted Emmy and I'm the children about Andy. Wow. Good,

1477
01:18:01,240 --> 01:18:04,360
Speaker 1: the children have remembered, remembered. I think it's time. It

1478
01:18:04,479 --> 01:18:09,320
Speaker 1: is time. I don't think so get out of here,

1479
01:18:09,439 --> 01:18:16,240
Speaker 1: you boy. It's time. They are referencing my song that

1480
01:18:16,280 --> 01:18:21,519
Speaker 1: I sang. I wasn't that the Oscar Bowl? You were

1481
01:18:21,520 --> 01:18:23,599
Speaker 1: telling these football players had the Super Bowl? To get

1482
01:18:23,600 --> 01:18:30,080
Speaker 1: out of here? Hear you, bull boys, It's time for good.

1483
01:18:31,920 --> 01:18:33,880
Speaker 1: That's how I felt about every football player being on

1484
01:18:34,120 --> 01:18:36,800
Speaker 1: the field before halftime, like it was like halfway through.

1485
01:18:36,840 --> 01:18:41,040
Speaker 1: Actually I just almost called it Act I guess, like

1486
01:18:41,560 --> 01:18:45,680
Speaker 1: the second quarter. It was halfway through Act two and

1487
01:18:46,000 --> 01:18:50,720
Speaker 1: I have nothing yet. Do you know what I'm referencing? Um? Oh,

1488
01:18:51,120 --> 01:18:58,960
Speaker 1: Diva's lament from spam a lot. Oh, someone tweet so

1489
01:18:59,200 --> 01:19:02,080
Speaker 1: I have my I don't think so, honey. This is

1490
01:19:02,120 --> 01:19:04,000
Speaker 1: our one minute to rail against something in culture that

1491
01:19:04,040 --> 01:19:08,080
Speaker 1: we really do not like. Um. Okay, this is Mount Rogers.

1492
01:19:08,160 --> 01:19:10,200
Speaker 1: I don't think so many he has something. Yes, time

1493
01:19:10,240 --> 01:19:12,200
Speaker 1: starts now. I don't think so, honey. The fight or

1494
01:19:12,240 --> 01:19:16,000
Speaker 1: flight response, I'm either a coward or I'm violent, bitch.

1495
01:19:16,280 --> 01:19:20,599
Speaker 1: How about talking it out, honey. I don't think, so, honey,

1496
01:19:20,720 --> 01:19:23,200
Speaker 1: the fight or flight response, because let me tell you something,

1497
01:19:23,479 --> 01:19:26,000
Speaker 1: I am not going to sit here and pretend that

1498
01:19:26,040 --> 01:19:30,040
Speaker 1: I have two options. I have never once fought or flighted.

1499
01:19:30,320 --> 01:19:34,920
Speaker 1: I have always stayed exactly still and not known what

1500
01:19:35,040 --> 01:19:38,040
Speaker 1: to do in a crisis. And that is not fight

1501
01:19:38,200 --> 01:19:42,800
Speaker 1: or flight. That is freezing, honey. I don't think, so, honey,

1502
01:19:42,840 --> 01:19:46,639
Speaker 1: to fight or flight response because guess what, bitch, No,

1503
01:19:47,439 --> 01:19:50,320
Speaker 1: I feel that you have to sit down and talk

1504
01:19:50,640 --> 01:19:53,880
Speaker 1: through things, and that is not in this equation. Never

1505
01:19:53,920 --> 01:19:57,880
Speaker 1: once have I been by something and thought, oh, I'm

1506
01:19:57,880 --> 01:20:01,639
Speaker 1: gonna punch this thing. I will. That were my whole deal.

1507
01:20:01,880 --> 01:20:04,880
Speaker 1: But I'm telling you, if I'm confronted by something, I'm

1508
01:20:05,000 --> 01:20:08,639
Speaker 1: sitting down in shock and panic. If you're a shark

1509
01:20:08,680 --> 01:20:10,800
Speaker 1: and you caught to me, I die immediately, that's not

1510
01:20:10,880 --> 01:20:14,360
Speaker 1: fighting or flying. That is dying. And that's one minute.

1511
01:20:15,280 --> 01:20:17,439
Speaker 1: I love that. I feel that the fight or fight

1512
01:20:17,520 --> 01:20:20,280
Speaker 1: response does not apply to me. It is fight, fight

1513
01:20:20,360 --> 01:20:22,800
Speaker 1: or freeze. Um. So you are you are. It is

1514
01:20:22,840 --> 01:20:24,800
Speaker 1: like a new amended, but you are within that. But

1515
01:20:25,240 --> 01:20:26,960
Speaker 1: when was the amendment made? That's what I say. I

1516
01:20:26,960 --> 01:20:29,760
Speaker 1: don't think so, honey, late amendment, for sure, bingo, but

1517
01:20:29,800 --> 01:20:32,200
Speaker 1: they go late amendment and it's not a binary, it's

1518
01:20:32,200 --> 01:20:38,640
Speaker 1: a trinary. That might not be the word triinary. I

1519
01:20:38,680 --> 01:20:41,240
Speaker 1: don't think that's okay, here we go, okay, this is

1520
01:20:41,280 --> 01:20:43,320
Speaker 1: but when I don't think so honey, and his time

1521
01:20:43,320 --> 01:20:45,519
Speaker 1: will actually starting now, I don't think so honey, most

1522
01:20:45,640 --> 01:20:49,320
Speaker 1: Broadway audiences, because you know what, student, I went to

1523
01:20:49,360 --> 01:20:52,200
Speaker 1: the theater the other day, looked around, Um, it was

1524
01:20:52,439 --> 01:20:55,679
Speaker 1: what the Constitution means to me. Heidi Shrek phenomenal. Everyone,

1525
01:20:55,680 --> 01:20:59,360
Speaker 1: please go see it. She made them big, big, true

1526
01:20:59,439 --> 01:21:03,559
Speaker 1: statements about how the founding document of our country is

1527
01:21:03,640 --> 01:21:07,320
Speaker 1: actively working against marginalized communities. And you could feel the

1528
01:21:07,360 --> 01:21:11,519
Speaker 1: butt holes, the white butt holes, upper middle class buttholes

1529
01:21:11,600 --> 01:21:13,559
Speaker 1: clenched in that sucking audience, and no one I realized,

1530
01:21:13,760 --> 01:21:19,280
Speaker 1: this is most Broadway audiences. Picture sorties right now. All

1531
01:21:19,320 --> 01:21:22,599
Speaker 1: of the families in there probably white. And I don't

1532
01:21:22,640 --> 01:21:25,720
Speaker 1: mean to get to this very like reductive level about race,

1533
01:21:26,000 --> 01:21:28,120
Speaker 1: but Broadway on This is the reason I had to

1534
01:21:28,160 --> 01:21:30,599
Speaker 1: catch up on a lot of theaters, beause I did

1535
01:21:30,600 --> 01:21:33,120
Speaker 1: not grow up in a theater loving family, and most

1536
01:21:33,360 --> 01:21:36,479
Speaker 1: families of color probably didn't have access to that either.

1537
01:21:36,760 --> 01:21:39,400
Speaker 1: And I'm doing a lot of ketchup culturally, but I'm

1538
01:21:39,400 --> 01:21:41,800
Speaker 1: happy to do. But I'm realizing that there is a

1539
01:21:42,760 --> 01:21:47,120
Speaker 1: the the gatekeepers are the gatekeepers are white. The people

1540
01:21:47,120 --> 01:21:49,320
Speaker 1: are white, and the gatekeepers are the people who are

1541
01:21:49,360 --> 01:21:50,519
Speaker 1: just sitting in the seats in the first place, and

1542
01:21:50,560 --> 01:21:53,320
Speaker 1: they're just placing other people from seeing theater. That's one minute.

1543
01:21:53,439 --> 01:21:56,960
Speaker 1: That's one minute. So now it's an economic thing, it's

1544
01:21:56,960 --> 01:21:58,479
Speaker 1: a it's a class well, it's a class thing that

1545
01:21:58,600 --> 01:22:02,559
Speaker 1: is that is basically race. But it's just like it's

1546
01:22:02,600 --> 01:22:07,200
Speaker 1: just like it's like most Broadway audiences are these older,

1547
01:22:07,280 --> 01:22:10,640
Speaker 1: upper class white people. The weirdest thing is the Hamilton's

1548
01:22:10,640 --> 01:22:12,680
Speaker 1: of it all. But yeah, because we're shifting to the

1549
01:22:12,720 --> 01:22:15,120
Speaker 1: makers being you know, more diverse and more people get

1550
01:22:15,160 --> 01:22:20,120
Speaker 1: the viewers. Fact, it's actually getting even more difficult to

1551
01:22:20,120 --> 01:22:22,479
Speaker 1: buy a ticket to anything exactly. And it's it's not

1552
01:22:22,520 --> 01:22:25,200
Speaker 1: this thing that's happening in film or TV. It's like

1553
01:22:25,240 --> 01:22:29,519
Speaker 1: there's there's an there's an access block, there's a there's

1554
01:22:29,520 --> 01:22:33,080
Speaker 1: like a stage gate that's being there that is not moving,

1555
01:22:33,120 --> 01:22:36,559
Speaker 1: that's pretty fixed. And I think it really fucking sucks

1556
01:22:36,840 --> 01:22:38,519
Speaker 1: because I never got to see that much theater as

1557
01:22:38,520 --> 01:22:40,360
Speaker 1: a kid growing up, and my parents didn't care for

1558
01:22:40,640 --> 01:22:42,280
Speaker 1: I would be like, can we please go to New

1559
01:22:42,320 --> 01:22:43,800
Speaker 1: York and can we please buy these tickets for this

1560
01:22:43,840 --> 01:22:45,960
Speaker 1: Broadway show? They like, how much is it? Oh? Um?

1561
01:22:46,000 --> 01:22:48,080
Speaker 1: The ones that I want to like a hundred, and

1562
01:22:48,080 --> 01:22:50,880
Speaker 1: they were like, no, We're not paying that much money

1563
01:22:50,920 --> 01:22:54,200
Speaker 1: to see theater. That's because it wasn't a culturally, it

1564
01:22:54,320 --> 01:22:57,360
Speaker 1: was not told that it was for them. So there's that.

1565
01:22:57,600 --> 01:23:00,040
Speaker 1: And yes, of course, because economically you could have a

1566
01:23:00,040 --> 01:23:03,280
Speaker 1: boarded the tickets not even really not even yea for

1567
01:23:03,320 --> 01:23:06,559
Speaker 1: like a justification, that's a lot totally back then, it

1568
01:23:06,640 --> 01:23:09,880
Speaker 1: was just like the most they would my parents would

1569
01:23:09,880 --> 01:23:12,400
Speaker 1: spend on me at Christmas would be like sixty and

1570
01:23:12,439 --> 01:23:15,599
Speaker 1: so it was just not. My heart sank when I

1571
01:23:15,640 --> 01:23:18,320
Speaker 1: realized how much Broadway tickets cost when I wanted to.

1572
01:23:18,360 --> 01:23:21,040
Speaker 1: When I looked into buying tickets to go see fucking

1573
01:23:21,040 --> 01:23:24,000
Speaker 1: Phantom or whatever, like, I was just I was like, what,

1574
01:23:24,120 --> 01:23:25,920
Speaker 1: like eleven? And then when Wicked came out, I was

1575
01:23:25,960 --> 01:23:28,400
Speaker 1: like I have to see this. I have to see

1576
01:23:28,400 --> 01:23:32,439
Speaker 1: this on Broadway um, and tickets were like a hundred

1577
01:23:32,439 --> 01:23:35,320
Speaker 1: seventy and my parents were like no, and the best

1578
01:23:35,320 --> 01:23:37,400
Speaker 1: thing they could do was driving to the Gargent Theater.

1579
01:23:37,600 --> 01:23:39,920
Speaker 1: I would stand outside the doors and that was the

1580
01:23:39,920 --> 01:23:42,439
Speaker 1: most I could do. That sucks. And listen to the

1581
01:23:42,439 --> 01:23:44,439
Speaker 1: album and listen to the album of course and like

1582
01:23:44,560 --> 01:23:46,640
Speaker 1: new every word. But like, this is the thing that

1583
01:23:46,680 --> 01:23:48,800
Speaker 1: I'm realizing now and I'm I'm very lucky that I

1584
01:23:48,800 --> 01:23:50,240
Speaker 1: get to see theater and then I could I get

1585
01:23:50,240 --> 01:23:52,759
Speaker 1: to go to Broadway shows now. But I look around

1586
01:23:52,760 --> 01:23:54,680
Speaker 1: and I'm just like, there's a problem here, and then

1587
01:23:54,800 --> 01:23:57,920
Speaker 1: is the makeup of the audiences has not changed that

1588
01:23:58,000 --> 01:24:00,240
Speaker 1: much in the last twenty years. And to be honest

1589
01:24:00,280 --> 01:24:01,639
Speaker 1: with you, if you really think about it, the only

1590
01:24:01,680 --> 01:24:04,160
Speaker 1: reason Hamilton even gets on stages because Lynn Manuel had

1591
01:24:04,200 --> 01:24:11,240
Speaker 1: been proving himself with In the Heights. You have to imagine,

1592
01:24:11,280 --> 01:24:13,719
Speaker 1: like what else is out there that's so brilliant? And honestly,

1593
01:24:13,800 --> 01:24:17,200
Speaker 1: the majority of stuff that's even on Broadway is so

1594
01:24:17,479 --> 01:24:20,800
Speaker 1: aggressively average. I mean it's you watch it and you're

1595
01:24:20,840 --> 01:24:24,800
Speaker 1: like want like it's so you know, like I'm even

1596
01:24:24,840 --> 01:24:27,400
Speaker 1: seeing like um, Jeremy or Harris is writing these incredible

1597
01:24:27,400 --> 01:24:30,120
Speaker 1: places that I was going to say, even even slave

1598
01:24:30,160 --> 01:24:32,519
Speaker 1: Play was a mostly white audience, which is great, Like

1599
01:24:32,560 --> 01:24:34,519
Speaker 1: that was the audience that probably needed to see that

1600
01:24:35,439 --> 01:24:39,280
Speaker 1: um not needed to. But it's like I would have

1601
01:24:39,320 --> 01:24:41,559
Speaker 1: also loved I would have also loved a more like

1602
01:24:41,640 --> 01:24:45,439
Speaker 1: I would have also loved to like see like some

1603
01:24:45,760 --> 01:24:48,000
Speaker 1: kind of texture there to that audience and be like,

1604
01:24:48,160 --> 01:24:50,880
Speaker 1: how is everyone else responding to this? So I don't

1605
01:24:50,920 --> 01:24:53,679
Speaker 1: know that's my thing with theater right now, that's anyway

1606
01:24:53,840 --> 01:24:55,240
Speaker 1: I mean, I've done a similar I don't think it

1607
01:24:55,280 --> 01:25:00,559
Speaker 1: funny about their behavior there. It's like the unwrappiding of candy,

1608
01:25:00,640 --> 01:25:06,040
Speaker 1: the talking the cell phone. Sat next to this elderly

1609
01:25:06,080 --> 01:25:08,240
Speaker 1: gentleman who I think his whole thing is that he

1610
01:25:08,280 --> 01:25:12,160
Speaker 1: goes to every show. He's sad by himself, but for

1611
01:25:12,200 --> 01:25:16,040
Speaker 1: a solid I kid you, not fifteen minutes was it

1612
01:25:16,160 --> 01:25:19,760
Speaker 1: just going through his jack not even pulling stuff out

1613
01:25:19,800 --> 01:25:23,360
Speaker 1: of his jacket, just like folding it and then unfolding it.

1614
01:25:23,400 --> 01:25:26,840
Speaker 1: And it was comical and student I both steered at.

1615
01:25:26,920 --> 01:25:29,280
Speaker 1: And it's a thing of like I think people think

1616
01:25:29,360 --> 01:25:31,360
Speaker 1: because they are so privileged and they have paid so

1617
01:25:31,439 --> 01:25:33,200
Speaker 1: much for the ticket and they can do whatever they

1618
01:25:33,280 --> 01:25:36,240
Speaker 1: want so much because like I'm sorry, these men, these women,

1619
01:25:36,240 --> 01:25:38,839
Speaker 1: these non miinary people have worked their mother fucking asses

1620
01:25:38,880 --> 01:25:41,720
Speaker 1: off to get on Broadway and your ass is like,

1621
01:25:41,800 --> 01:25:43,479
Speaker 1: I about this ticket. I'm like, yes, you did to

1622
01:25:43,520 --> 01:25:46,679
Speaker 1: show respect. Show respect. You can't be in an audience

1623
01:25:46,720 --> 01:25:48,559
Speaker 1: and have there not be a cell phone go off.

1624
01:25:48,720 --> 01:25:51,639
Speaker 1: It's psychic. And then it's these people, and it's also

1625
01:25:51,760 --> 01:25:55,680
Speaker 1: like went off? What the constitution? Yeah, it's psycho And

1626
01:25:55,720 --> 01:25:58,680
Speaker 1: also like it really changes the experience. I mean, when

1627
01:25:58,680 --> 01:26:01,400
Speaker 1: you're in the theater and the self goes off, you

1628
01:26:01,439 --> 01:26:06,000
Speaker 1: are not paying attention anymore. Your mind for that seconds

1629
01:26:06,520 --> 01:26:08,760
Speaker 1: is like, is like when is that going to get

1630
01:26:08,800 --> 01:26:11,519
Speaker 1: turned off? And you lose what they're saying. Yeah, yeah,

1631
01:26:11,960 --> 01:26:15,600
Speaker 1: And it can change an entire theatrical experience. People are very,

1632
01:26:15,720 --> 01:26:19,439
Speaker 1: very very ignorant. Yes, okay, that's that's me. And now,

1633
01:26:20,120 --> 01:26:25,360
Speaker 1: oh my gosh, I don't think so, honey. Your time

1634
01:26:25,520 --> 01:26:28,840
Speaker 1: starts now. I don't think so, honey. People holding hands

1635
01:26:28,840 --> 01:26:32,559
Speaker 1: on the motherfucking sidewalk. I'm fucking sorry. We're in New

1636
01:26:32,640 --> 01:26:35,760
Speaker 1: York City. You've seen okay, we've been watching Romcom since

1637
01:26:35,800 --> 01:26:39,160
Speaker 1: age two. Motherfucker's Bob and heads, hundreds of thousands of them.

1638
01:26:39,200 --> 01:26:41,160
Speaker 1: Do you think you have time to double up? Okay?

1639
01:26:41,200 --> 01:26:44,080
Speaker 1: We learned how to single file in child's school, like

1640
01:26:44,200 --> 01:26:46,720
Speaker 1: real young school, and I'm sorry if it gets tight,

1641
01:26:47,160 --> 01:26:49,559
Speaker 1: it's tight and we need a single file and you

1642
01:26:49,640 --> 01:26:53,280
Speaker 1: can't release hands, And now are you gonna lose them?

1643
01:26:53,280 --> 01:26:54,920
Speaker 1: Are you gonna? It's not gravity, bitch, you know what

1644
01:26:54,960 --> 01:26:56,599
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like, you're not going to get away from

1645
01:26:56,600 --> 01:26:57,960
Speaker 1: that person. That person is not going to go so

1646
01:26:58,000 --> 01:27:00,080
Speaker 1: far away from you that you Oh my god, you

1647
01:27:00,080 --> 01:27:01,479
Speaker 1: can't go so far away from you, you you know what

1648
01:27:01,560 --> 01:27:03,240
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Like, and then the energy of like you're

1649
01:27:03,240 --> 01:27:04,880
Speaker 1: doing a crosstalk right, You're in a crosswalk and it's

1650
01:27:04,880 --> 01:27:06,599
Speaker 1: getting a little smish, and you're coming towards a couple

1651
01:27:06,600 --> 01:27:09,040
Speaker 1: that has a tight, firm hold on their hands, and

1652
01:27:09,040 --> 01:27:10,800
Speaker 1: it's like, you're gonna need a break. You can see

1653
01:27:10,800 --> 01:27:12,800
Speaker 1: you need to break like red Rover ship, you know,

1654
01:27:13,200 --> 01:27:15,240
Speaker 1: and they won't. Their their energy is just like if

1655
01:27:15,280 --> 01:27:17,920
Speaker 1: we lose hands, it's an assault relationship and we actually

1656
01:27:17,920 --> 01:27:19,599
Speaker 1: don't like each other. And it's like, no, it's not

1657
01:27:19,960 --> 01:27:23,639
Speaker 1: let me walk through. Oh my god, break your hands.

1658
01:27:23,640 --> 01:27:26,240
Speaker 1: You're gonna stay together or break up your stupid bitches.

1659
01:27:26,280 --> 01:27:31,640
Speaker 1: I don't give a ship walk, I don't, honey, And

1660
01:27:31,680 --> 01:27:34,080
Speaker 1: there you go. That's one minute. What is that death grip?

1661
01:27:34,320 --> 01:27:37,800
Speaker 1: That rigor mortis and congratulations on having to do it?

1662
01:27:39,040 --> 01:27:42,120
Speaker 1: Oh my god, It's just like, you know what it is.

1663
01:27:42,280 --> 01:27:45,240
Speaker 1: Hand holding is a tender act. You know, It's like, sure,

1664
01:27:45,280 --> 01:27:47,760
Speaker 1: if I see, you know, a daughter holding a hand

1665
01:27:47,760 --> 01:27:50,439
Speaker 1: of their elderly mother, yeah, hold that hand. But if

1666
01:27:50,439 --> 01:27:53,120
Speaker 1: you're just some couple and you just need a hold

1667
01:27:53,120 --> 01:27:58,160
Speaker 1: onto hands, you don't. Don't you know what? Get out

1668
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Speaker 1: of here, Get the fun out of here, Get the boys.

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01:28:01,439 --> 01:28:06,519
Speaker 1: Get out of here, you boys. It's time. I woke

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01:28:06,600 --> 01:28:08,479
Speaker 1: up just like I was like, what's in my head?

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01:28:08,520 --> 01:28:10,280
Speaker 1: And I couldn't identify the song on my head? And

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01:28:10,320 --> 01:28:11,920
Speaker 1: I kept playing it out and I realized it was

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01:28:11,960 --> 01:28:14,640
Speaker 1: get out of here, you boys. And you know, you

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01:28:14,720 --> 01:28:16,360
Speaker 1: and I were seeing it to each other earlier today

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01:28:17,000 --> 01:28:19,200
Speaker 1: and not not in Matt's presence, but when Matt sending

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01:28:19,240 --> 01:28:23,559
Speaker 1: back you know what we missed the separation on. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: the hoys we forgot. I'm going to tell you it

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Speaker 1: is going to be the song that we end on. Absolutely,

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01:28:28,160 --> 01:28:29,880
Speaker 1: But first I want to say this has been a

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Speaker 1: glorious episode that touched all parts of the globe. A

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01:28:34,200 --> 01:28:37,599
Speaker 1: global episode. This was a global episode. We are local

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01:28:37,640 --> 01:28:40,280
Speaker 1: to each other and global in our thoughts. Yes, and honey,

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01:28:40,479 --> 01:28:43,320
Speaker 1: we touched each other's hearts and minds and funny bones.

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Speaker 1: That's not our song, Well that's we can't end on that.

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01:28:51,120 --> 01:28:54,760
Speaker 1: But Mo, we love you. We cherished all my whole heart.

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01:28:54,800 --> 01:28:57,040
Speaker 1: We thank you. I thank you both. There's a brown

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01:28:57,120 --> 01:29:00,040
Speaker 1: recluse right behind you. I'll say you know what, and

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01:29:00,240 --> 01:29:03,600
Speaker 1: when I say you two gems are so dear to

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01:29:03,640 --> 01:29:05,120
Speaker 1: my heart, and you know what, You're so dear to

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01:29:05,120 --> 01:29:08,360
Speaker 1: so many people's heart. And this podcast, you mother stupid fucker's,

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01:29:08,720 --> 01:29:11,639
Speaker 1: is one of the specialists most wonderful, makes people feel seen,

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01:29:11,760 --> 01:29:13,960
Speaker 1: makes people feel hard. And I am so grateful that

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01:29:14,000 --> 01:29:15,519
Speaker 1: you two are in my life and you truth so

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01:29:15,600 --> 01:29:18,120
Speaker 1: special and love you. I think I think's going to

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01:29:18,160 --> 01:29:20,320
Speaker 1: connect with a lot of people. You're gonna have a connection.

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01:29:20,439 --> 01:29:23,960
Speaker 1: I love my audience. And now we're gonna get out

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01:29:24,000 --> 01:29:26,800
Speaker 1: of here with our song that we're gonna end um

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01:29:27,240 --> 01:29:44,360
Speaker 1: get tidd We were so loud and thought by. This

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Speaker 1: has been a Forever Dog production executive produced by Brett Boham,

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01:29:48,720 --> 01:29:53,519
Speaker 1: Joe Silio, and Alex Ramsey. For more original podcasts, please

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