1 00:00:02,200 --> 00:00:05,160 Speaker 1: He got a syringe. Granted it was sterile, they made 2 00:00:05,160 --> 00:00:06,920 Speaker 1: sure we saw it with Sterlee put the deaf off, 3 00:00:07,040 --> 00:00:11,320 Speaker 1: so you know wrestlers are very safe too. I've never 4 00:00:11,360 --> 00:00:13,080 Speaker 1: seen this in a wrestling match. I don't know if 5 00:00:13,119 --> 00:00:17,479 Speaker 1: it's happened before. Maybe there's some crazy hardcore company where 6 00:00:17,520 --> 00:00:20,200 Speaker 1: this is their thing. We're having a syringe match. This 7 00:00:20,320 --> 00:00:22,000 Speaker 1: was I had to look away from the screen. I 8 00:00:22,040 --> 00:00:25,079 Speaker 1: couldn't watch a needle go through a dude's cheek. 9 00:00:32,600 --> 00:00:38,040 Speaker 2: Ladies and gentlemen, are you ready spouts that hit the fan? 10 00:00:38,760 --> 00:00:46,640 Speaker 1: Welcome to sanction Thursdays A wrestling with Freday, Ladies and gentlemen, 11 00:00:46,680 --> 00:00:49,920 Speaker 1: Welcome to unsanctioned Thursdays with me? Is Jeff Die I'm 12 00:00:49,960 --> 00:00:53,440 Speaker 1: Freddy Prinz. Let's just start the damn thing. AW and 13 00:00:53,560 --> 00:00:58,480 Speaker 1: WW are very different types of promotions. One is, for sure, 14 00:00:58,960 --> 00:01:01,880 Speaker 1: more for the hardcore fans and one is much more 15 00:01:01,920 --> 00:01:06,480 Speaker 1: family friendly. And nothing was more evident of that difference 16 00:01:06,560 --> 00:01:09,679 Speaker 1: than AEW's all out. I want to start with the 17 00:01:09,800 --> 00:01:13,200 Speaker 1: last match, if we if we could, Jeff, let's with 18 00:01:13,319 --> 00:01:17,120 Speaker 1: the steel cage match if we could, because it it 19 00:01:17,480 --> 00:01:22,039 Speaker 1: went through areas that I'm uncomfortable with. That make me 20 00:01:22,120 --> 00:01:24,600 Speaker 1: look away. And I don't mean that in a bad way. 21 00:01:24,640 --> 00:01:29,800 Speaker 1: I know people like it, But Swerve Strickland and Hangman 22 00:01:29,880 --> 00:01:34,160 Speaker 1: Adam Page hate each other. Their characters age. I'm sure 23 00:01:34,160 --> 00:01:36,920 Speaker 1: they like each other. And Hangman Adam Page burned down 24 00:01:36,959 --> 00:01:39,800 Speaker 1: Swerve's childhood home. Now, Swerve is not innocent in this. 25 00:01:39,920 --> 00:01:41,600 Speaker 1: He did a lot of bad stuff too earlier. 26 00:01:41,680 --> 00:01:43,560 Speaker 2: What do you think about that? Let's talk about that. 27 00:01:43,920 --> 00:01:48,520 Speaker 1: It was very ww like, it was very Brian Pillman, Steve, 28 00:01:48,760 --> 00:01:52,520 Speaker 1: Steve Boston like very much so. So for that, I 29 00:01:53,320 --> 00:01:55,120 Speaker 1: gave it some love and like that it was. It 30 00:01:55,240 --> 00:01:57,600 Speaker 1: was a throwback to that kind of a story. And 31 00:01:57,720 --> 00:01:59,720 Speaker 1: I like when they have a reason why. We've talked 32 00:01:59,720 --> 00:02:02,360 Speaker 1: about thought a lot, and these two gentlemen have a 33 00:02:02,480 --> 00:02:05,279 Speaker 1: reason why. Adam Page has hinted at it since his return. 34 00:02:05,680 --> 00:02:08,600 Speaker 1: I freaking hate you. I hate you, Swarve Strickland. I'm 35 00:02:08,600 --> 00:02:10,799 Speaker 1: gonna do everything I can, screaming the whole time. I'm 36 00:02:10,800 --> 00:02:12,799 Speaker 1: gonna do everything I can to destroy your life. I'm 37 00:02:12,800 --> 00:02:14,880 Speaker 1: gonna take everything away from you. You're not gonna have 38 00:02:14,960 --> 00:02:17,440 Speaker 1: it like he and Swerve. Strickland is the opposite, right. 39 00:02:17,520 --> 00:02:19,519 Speaker 1: He plays it cool and he's like see you already 40 00:02:19,560 --> 00:02:21,519 Speaker 1: lost your cool. That's why you're not gonna be able 41 00:02:21,600 --> 00:02:23,640 Speaker 1: to do shit to me. And that's why I did 42 00:02:23,760 --> 00:02:26,760 Speaker 1: everything to you, because I'm in control and you're out 43 00:02:26,800 --> 00:02:29,720 Speaker 1: of control. And so they're very opposites in the way 44 00:02:29,800 --> 00:02:33,240 Speaker 1: they speak, opposites in the way they wrestle. Some one 45 00:02:33,320 --> 00:02:35,320 Speaker 1: of them was willing to cross lines that the other 46 00:02:35,400 --> 00:02:38,239 Speaker 1: one was not. I'll stop beating around the bush. For 47 00:02:38,280 --> 00:02:41,000 Speaker 1: those who haven't seen it, well, Jeff, you tell him 48 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:42,960 Speaker 1: what hang Man Adam Page thought would be a good 49 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:44,720 Speaker 1: thing to do in a wrestling match, because it makes 50 00:02:44,760 --> 00:02:45,359 Speaker 1: me nauseous. 51 00:02:46,560 --> 00:02:51,960 Speaker 2: I loved it. I absolutely loved it. I'm still living 52 00:02:52,120 --> 00:02:55,120 Speaker 2: this strange teenage boy. That's like, did you see e 53 00:02:55,200 --> 00:02:58,600 Speaker 2: c W When and then he took out a bag 54 00:02:58,680 --> 00:02:59,960 Speaker 2: and he hit him with it and it turns out 55 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:02,200 Speaker 2: was full of thumbtacks and then he threw them off 56 00:03:02,240 --> 00:03:04,880 Speaker 2: the second level into seventy five tables and they went 57 00:03:04,960 --> 00:03:08,200 Speaker 2: through the like I'm very much still that wrestling fan. 58 00:03:08,760 --> 00:03:14,160 Speaker 2: When Hangman hit Swerved with the chair shot, I'm gonna 59 00:03:14,160 --> 00:03:17,320 Speaker 2: call it the chair shot from hell. It looked I 60 00:03:17,400 --> 00:03:22,000 Speaker 2: don't know if maybe the maybe the chair was gimmicked 61 00:03:22,040 --> 00:03:23,880 Speaker 2: in a way that it broke the way. 62 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:26,200 Speaker 1: I hope so, I freaking hope so. 63 00:03:27,040 --> 00:03:30,400 Speaker 2: But maybe if it wasn't that he hit him so 64 00:03:30,720 --> 00:03:33,600 Speaker 2: soundly with the chair that it did that unique thing 65 00:03:33,639 --> 00:03:35,440 Speaker 2: where your head goes all the way through the chair 66 00:03:35,440 --> 00:03:37,160 Speaker 2: and it's kind of hanging around your neck like a 67 00:03:37,560 --> 00:03:40,360 Speaker 2: like a prop. I've only seen that a few times. 68 00:03:40,400 --> 00:03:42,280 Speaker 2: I've definitely never seen it the way it was done 69 00:03:42,360 --> 00:03:44,840 Speaker 2: this time, but I've seen in the past where their 70 00:03:44,880 --> 00:03:46,960 Speaker 2: head is hanging through in the chair still on their neck. 71 00:03:47,360 --> 00:03:52,160 Speaker 2: It was absolutely brutal, and there's a lot of fan 72 00:03:52,320 --> 00:03:55,520 Speaker 2: shots of it that they show, like on YouTube and 73 00:03:55,640 --> 00:03:58,520 Speaker 2: all the places. You can see like different angles of it, 74 00:03:58,680 --> 00:04:02,400 Speaker 2: and it's just about brutal. But it's my favorite type of. 75 00:04:02,480 --> 00:04:06,760 Speaker 1: Thing, Jeff. The chair shot, as brutal as it was, 76 00:04:08,400 --> 00:04:12,000 Speaker 1: was arguably the most brutal part of the match because 77 00:04:12,040 --> 00:04:16,400 Speaker 1: Hangman Page pulled something else out of a bag and 78 00:04:16,640 --> 00:04:22,240 Speaker 1: decided to put it through another man's face. Yeah, he 79 00:04:22,960 --> 00:04:25,960 Speaker 1: got a syringe. Granted it was sterile. They made sure 80 00:04:25,960 --> 00:04:27,479 Speaker 1: we saw it with sterile. He put the cap off, 81 00:04:27,640 --> 00:04:31,880 Speaker 1: so you know, wrestlers are very safe too. I've never 82 00:04:31,960 --> 00:04:33,680 Speaker 1: seen this in a wrestling match. I don't know if 83 00:04:33,720 --> 00:04:37,880 Speaker 1: it's happened before. Maybe there's some crazy hardcore company where 84 00:04:38,120 --> 00:04:40,760 Speaker 1: this is their thing. We're having a syringe match. A 85 00:04:40,839 --> 00:04:47,280 Speaker 1: dirty syringe match winner doesn't get HEPSI. But this was 86 00:04:47,400 --> 00:04:49,359 Speaker 1: I had to look away from the screen. I couldn't 87 00:04:49,480 --> 00:04:52,680 Speaker 1: watch a needle go through a dude's cheek. I couldn't 88 00:04:52,680 --> 00:04:54,520 Speaker 1: do it. When I saw a jackass when they put 89 00:04:54,600 --> 00:04:57,360 Speaker 1: the hook through Stevo's cheek and then threw them into 90 00:04:57,400 --> 00:04:59,520 Speaker 1: the water so they could fish for sharks. I don't 91 00:04:59,520 --> 00:05:01,280 Speaker 1: know if any but he saw that. But that's I'm 92 00:05:01,320 --> 00:05:03,520 Speaker 1: not making that up. That's it's what people did for 93 00:05:03,640 --> 00:05:06,920 Speaker 1: jokes in the early two thousands, I guess. But I 94 00:05:06,960 --> 00:05:09,200 Speaker 1: couldn't watch that, and I couldn't watch this. I legit 95 00:05:09,320 --> 00:05:11,440 Speaker 1: had to look away, and I was just grateful. None 96 00:05:11,480 --> 00:05:13,279 Speaker 1: of my kids or my wife walked in and said, 97 00:05:13,320 --> 00:05:16,880 Speaker 1: what the hell are you watching? It was so gruesome, 98 00:05:17,040 --> 00:05:20,000 Speaker 1: which is what they went for, So congratulations. But I'm 99 00:05:20,080 --> 00:05:22,680 Speaker 1: forty eight, getting close to forty nine years old, and 100 00:05:22,800 --> 00:05:25,520 Speaker 1: my weak ass couldn't handle it. I guess you loved 101 00:05:25,600 --> 00:05:26,040 Speaker 1: this too. 102 00:05:26,680 --> 00:05:29,160 Speaker 2: I meant we had staple guns, we had chairs, we 103 00:05:29,320 --> 00:05:30,000 Speaker 2: have needles. 104 00:05:30,520 --> 00:05:31,359 Speaker 1: There was no. 105 00:05:34,040 --> 00:05:36,720 Speaker 2: Limits for this kind of thing. The needle is definitely 106 00:05:36,760 --> 00:05:38,560 Speaker 2: the one that makes people look away because people have 107 00:05:38,680 --> 00:05:42,000 Speaker 2: problems with needles in their lives, like you just said 108 00:05:42,040 --> 00:05:44,279 Speaker 2: a second ago. I also have never seen it in wrestling, 109 00:05:44,400 --> 00:05:48,000 Speaker 2: so they found a new thing to make people cringe about. 110 00:05:48,120 --> 00:05:49,320 Speaker 2: But go ahead. 111 00:05:50,040 --> 00:05:52,359 Speaker 1: Uh no, that was it. It was gross and horrible 112 00:05:52,400 --> 00:05:54,480 Speaker 1: and I couldn't handle it, so I'm not going to 113 00:05:54,560 --> 00:05:57,760 Speaker 1: talk about it. But the match was great. I heard 114 00:05:57,800 --> 00:05:59,880 Speaker 1: Swerves taking some time off. That's the word on the 115 00:06:00,200 --> 00:06:03,200 Speaker 1: on the ethernet, so that's the way you take time off. 116 00:06:03,360 --> 00:06:06,560 Speaker 1: You get KOed by a friggin chair, and Adam Page 117 00:06:06,560 --> 00:06:08,520 Speaker 1: will get the story that he's gonna get and pursue 118 00:06:08,560 --> 00:06:10,640 Speaker 1: the title. He's gonna pursue because he's a title guy. 119 00:06:11,200 --> 00:06:13,240 Speaker 1: And yeah, dude, this was hard. It was just too 120 00:06:13,360 --> 00:06:16,920 Speaker 1: it was too hard core. So I'm moving on, Brian. 121 00:06:17,080 --> 00:06:19,479 Speaker 2: It's strange they wanted to even do that. To be honest, 122 00:06:19,560 --> 00:06:22,560 Speaker 2: you know, they did the burnt wood thing from Swarves House. 123 00:06:22,880 --> 00:06:26,360 Speaker 2: There's so hard to put a needle through Swerve's mouth, 124 00:06:26,480 --> 00:06:28,960 Speaker 2: Like I wonder if I know we've had Swerve on 125 00:06:29,080 --> 00:06:31,520 Speaker 2: the podcast a couple of times, but he's you know, 126 00:06:32,360 --> 00:06:35,160 Speaker 2: we don't go too crazy with the questions when he's 127 00:06:35,200 --> 00:06:37,680 Speaker 2: been on, but like, do you think he's into this 128 00:06:37,839 --> 00:06:40,440 Speaker 2: kind of pain stuff? Like was this his idea? Maybe? 129 00:06:40,560 --> 00:06:42,320 Speaker 1: Like I know, the next time we have him on, 130 00:06:42,720 --> 00:06:45,320 Speaker 1: we're asking him whose idea was the syringe through the mouth? 131 00:06:45,400 --> 00:06:47,960 Speaker 1: And I bet you he says him, these guys always 132 00:06:48,040 --> 00:06:50,880 Speaker 1: pitch you to do something to them, not them to 133 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:53,200 Speaker 1: do something to you, right, So I feel like it 134 00:06:53,320 --> 00:06:54,800 Speaker 1: was his idea. He's like, you know what you should do? 135 00:06:55,200 --> 00:06:58,880 Speaker 1: Put a fucking needle through my face? Is like, yo, 136 00:06:59,000 --> 00:07:01,600 Speaker 1: what you need to do? What bro put this through 137 00:07:01,640 --> 00:07:03,040 Speaker 1: my fiel? Oh fucking all right. 138 00:07:03,960 --> 00:07:07,760 Speaker 2: Also, from a very brief browsing of the social media, 139 00:07:07,960 --> 00:07:10,680 Speaker 2: like hour I watched it, probably hours after it happened 140 00:07:11,240 --> 00:07:13,360 Speaker 2: or yeah, probably it was the next morning, so whatever 141 00:07:13,440 --> 00:07:15,680 Speaker 2: however long that is, it didn't seem like people liked 142 00:07:15,720 --> 00:07:18,160 Speaker 2: it on the internet. It didn't like a lot of 143 00:07:18,200 --> 00:07:20,440 Speaker 2: people on the internet from what I saw, were like, 144 00:07:20,920 --> 00:07:24,040 Speaker 2: people wonder why more people aren't watching ad ae w 145 00:07:24,160 --> 00:07:26,280 Speaker 2: It's because of crap like this, And some people were 146 00:07:26,360 --> 00:07:29,400 Speaker 2: like cut this shit out, like it's gross, you know, 147 00:07:29,520 --> 00:07:31,559 Speaker 2: like that A lot of people were not it was gross. 148 00:07:31,640 --> 00:07:33,120 Speaker 2: What I saw, it didn't seem like a lot of 149 00:07:33,160 --> 00:07:35,880 Speaker 2: people were on board with the needle through the cheek. 150 00:07:36,240 --> 00:07:39,840 Speaker 1: All right, I'm not alone for once, for once, and 151 00:07:39,920 --> 00:07:41,760 Speaker 1: I appreciate that people. I'm glad you guys are on 152 00:07:41,880 --> 00:07:46,000 Speaker 1: my side finally. All right, so we heard about that. 153 00:07:46,680 --> 00:07:48,240 Speaker 1: By the way, the cage was awesome. 154 00:07:49,040 --> 00:07:49,920 Speaker 2: I love like the cage. 155 00:07:50,040 --> 00:07:51,680 Speaker 1: I love the cage a lot. The ref and the 156 00:07:51,760 --> 00:07:54,160 Speaker 1: neutral shirt was awesome. I thought that was cool because 157 00:07:54,160 --> 00:07:57,840 Speaker 1: it was an unsanctioned match. I wonder if you even 158 00:07:58,000 --> 00:08:00,320 Speaker 1: need a ref in an unsanctioned match, but I thought 159 00:08:00,360 --> 00:08:02,320 Speaker 1: they handled it cool and gave him a reason, so 160 00:08:02,440 --> 00:08:18,720 Speaker 1: that was all good. Next up, somebody else who could 161 00:08:18,760 --> 00:08:24,160 Speaker 1: be taking some time off. MJF Maxwell Jacob Friedman versus 162 00:08:24,240 --> 00:08:27,160 Speaker 1: Daniel Garcia. MJF is going to try, before he's done 163 00:08:27,400 --> 00:08:29,800 Speaker 1: to put every single person in this company over and 164 00:08:29,920 --> 00:08:32,400 Speaker 1: help make them stars. Help make them stars. It's not 165 00:08:32,520 --> 00:08:35,200 Speaker 1: all on him. I think Daniel Garcia is incredibly talented, 166 00:08:35,840 --> 00:08:37,920 Speaker 1: but he is trying to help build this company with 167 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:40,560 Speaker 1: every match he does, and I just think that needs 168 00:08:40,600 --> 00:08:42,600 Speaker 1: to be said before we get into this kind of stuff. 169 00:08:42,679 --> 00:08:45,160 Speaker 1: It's not always even if he wins he'll find a 170 00:08:45,200 --> 00:08:47,000 Speaker 1: way to make you look good the way he did 171 00:08:47,080 --> 00:08:51,920 Speaker 1: in this match. So MJF is going to be out 172 00:08:52,000 --> 00:08:55,520 Speaker 1: for a while, as was Daniel Garcia. But what's next 173 00:08:55,600 --> 00:08:59,439 Speaker 1: for Daniel Garcia? We mentioned him over a year and 174 00:08:59,520 --> 00:09:02,800 Speaker 1: a half ago when he was in a storyline and 175 00:09:02,920 --> 00:09:07,000 Speaker 1: he was conflicted between Chris Jericho and Brian Danielson. Are 176 00:09:07,040 --> 00:09:10,720 Speaker 1: you a sports entertainer, Daniel, or are you a professional wrestler? 177 00:09:10,960 --> 00:09:14,760 Speaker 1: Are you with Chris Jericho in that WWE bullshit? Or 178 00:09:14,760 --> 00:09:17,240 Speaker 1: are you with me in this ae W real shit? 179 00:09:17,520 --> 00:09:20,400 Speaker 1: And Chris Jericho's the opposite? Are you with me? Are 180 00:09:20,440 --> 00:09:23,880 Speaker 1: you a sports entertainer? Are you just a professional wrestler? 181 00:09:24,280 --> 00:09:27,319 Speaker 1: Almost like it's a dirty word. And he was so 182 00:09:27,679 --> 00:09:30,960 Speaker 1: vulnerable in this storyline that I remember talking about him 183 00:09:31,000 --> 00:09:32,240 Speaker 1: being like, dude, this guy can act. 184 00:09:32,320 --> 00:09:32,480 Speaker 2: Man. 185 00:09:32,520 --> 00:09:34,640 Speaker 1: I don't like the dance thing he does, but I 186 00:09:34,880 --> 00:09:38,600 Speaker 1: like everything else about Daniel Garcia. I don't. I don't 187 00:09:38,640 --> 00:09:41,240 Speaker 1: like the dance thing, but again, I'm old and can't dance. 188 00:09:41,240 --> 00:09:43,520 Speaker 1: It's good as say. It's like bald guys hating on 189 00:09:43,640 --> 00:09:44,360 Speaker 1: guys with great hair. 190 00:09:45,040 --> 00:09:47,079 Speaker 2: No, it's not always a jealousy. He could just not 191 00:09:47,400 --> 00:09:48,199 Speaker 2: like things. 192 00:09:48,640 --> 00:09:51,800 Speaker 1: Maybe I wish I was a better dancer. But anyway, 193 00:09:52,679 --> 00:09:57,920 Speaker 1: Daniel Garcia is now in a position to finally get 194 00:09:57,960 --> 00:10:01,199 Speaker 1: a push. They just have to have an opponent in 195 00:10:01,320 --> 00:10:04,280 Speaker 1: front of him, an opponent that he can legit be. 196 00:10:04,520 --> 00:10:07,000 Speaker 1: He cannot lose again. He lost to MJF. Even though 197 00:10:07,040 --> 00:10:10,400 Speaker 1: he wins, he lost that match. So the next storyline 198 00:10:10,440 --> 00:10:13,400 Speaker 1: he's in, he must be the winner if you want 199 00:10:13,520 --> 00:10:16,160 Speaker 1: to build him. It's like what WW did with that 200 00:10:16,280 --> 00:10:18,240 Speaker 1: Giovanni Vinci guy, Like, how are you going to give 201 00:10:18,320 --> 00:10:22,880 Speaker 1: him all this promo, all this hype, the Ferrari, the vignettes, 202 00:10:22,880 --> 00:10:24,320 Speaker 1: and you're going to have him come out and lose 203 00:10:24,360 --> 00:10:26,680 Speaker 1: in three seconds because he wasn't ready to Apollo Cruise, 204 00:10:26,720 --> 00:10:28,600 Speaker 1: Like what you put him over to job him out? 205 00:10:28,760 --> 00:10:31,439 Speaker 1: Like I don't understand that booking at all. So there 206 00:10:31,520 --> 00:10:34,320 Speaker 1: has to be something with Ryan Garcia. I was nervous 207 00:10:34,360 --> 00:10:37,400 Speaker 1: about the Hook thing that gave him Chris Jericho. Now 208 00:10:37,400 --> 00:10:40,760 Speaker 1: they're giving him Roderick Strong. So they had a plan 209 00:10:40,880 --> 00:10:42,920 Speaker 1: for Hook. It makes me think they have a plan 210 00:10:43,000 --> 00:10:45,480 Speaker 1: for Ryan. I just don't know who's going to be next. 211 00:10:45,559 --> 00:10:47,120 Speaker 1: He doesn't have to be a title, he doesn't need 212 00:10:47,160 --> 00:10:49,520 Speaker 1: a title. He has a lot of emotion in him. 213 00:10:49,520 --> 00:10:52,959 Speaker 1: His promos are full of emotion. He's really vulnerable. He 214 00:10:53,080 --> 00:10:55,560 Speaker 1: comes off legit, he comes off like a humble, working 215 00:10:55,640 --> 00:10:58,640 Speaker 1: class guy, like a John McClain. That's the second time 216 00:10:58,679 --> 00:11:01,760 Speaker 1: I've talked about him on this but yeah, like I 217 00:11:01,960 --> 00:11:05,160 Speaker 1: just there's so much to like about him. This match 218 00:11:05,320 --> 00:11:11,600 Speaker 1: was wonderful and whatever that. I'd say his strongest personality 219 00:11:11,679 --> 00:11:15,120 Speaker 1: trade is his vulnerability. That's in talking about Daniel Garcia. 220 00:11:15,400 --> 00:11:18,120 Speaker 1: He makes you care about him. He makes you care, 221 00:11:18,760 --> 00:11:21,560 Speaker 1: and that's a hard thing to do. I didn't really 222 00:11:21,720 --> 00:11:24,040 Speaker 1: see him click as a heel, but as a babyface. 223 00:11:24,360 --> 00:11:26,160 Speaker 1: I think it can really work where he's that guy 224 00:11:26,240 --> 00:11:28,240 Speaker 1: that has to climb the mountain, and the mountains so 225 00:11:28,559 --> 00:11:31,400 Speaker 1: hard to climb. So he's gonna fail for the title 226 00:11:31,480 --> 00:11:33,800 Speaker 1: a lot, a lot, but when he finally gets it, 227 00:11:33,880 --> 00:11:37,240 Speaker 1: it's gonna mean so much friggin' more. I love this match. 228 00:11:38,160 --> 00:11:41,920 Speaker 1: This podcast loves MJF, and this podcast likes Daniel Garcia 229 00:11:42,080 --> 00:11:43,680 Speaker 1: a lot. I think there's a lot there. I hope 230 00:11:43,720 --> 00:11:45,400 Speaker 1: that you like the match, and I hope you feel 231 00:11:45,440 --> 00:11:48,080 Speaker 1: the same way. And it's we're not talking about chops. 232 00:11:48,360 --> 00:11:51,640 Speaker 1: We usually agree on these Restlans. It is true. 233 00:11:51,679 --> 00:11:55,040 Speaker 2: I like Danny Garcia big MJF Mark. Danny Garcia is great. 234 00:11:55,120 --> 00:11:59,640 Speaker 2: He's undersized, which like most ovisually I'm not usually crazy 235 00:11:59,679 --> 00:12:03,040 Speaker 2: about it. He seems to be inspired. I know, this 236 00:12:03,240 --> 00:12:05,959 Speaker 2: is a hell of an allegation to, like say, because 237 00:12:06,280 --> 00:12:08,600 Speaker 2: wrestling you're allowed to steal things, I guess you can 238 00:12:08,679 --> 00:12:12,640 Speaker 2: just do people's moves and use people's everything, and whenever 239 00:12:12,840 --> 00:12:15,079 Speaker 2: it gets pointed out, people go, oh, that's wrestling, You're 240 00:12:15,080 --> 00:12:16,959 Speaker 2: allowed to do that. But I do see a lot 241 00:12:17,080 --> 00:12:22,080 Speaker 2: of him being inspired by Randy Orton. It appears, especially yeah, 242 00:12:22,320 --> 00:12:25,599 Speaker 2: especially after the after he did the pile driver to 243 00:12:25,720 --> 00:12:30,120 Speaker 2: MJF off the second turnbuckle, which was absolutely incredible, he 244 00:12:30,280 --> 00:12:32,400 Speaker 2: kind of did this like crawl to him that was 245 00:12:32,480 --> 00:12:34,520 Speaker 2: like I was like, oh, there it is this. I've 246 00:12:34,559 --> 00:12:37,000 Speaker 2: always kind of felt like he's doing a Randy Orton thing, 247 00:12:37,040 --> 00:12:38,520 Speaker 2: but like when I saw that, I was like, I'm 248 00:12:38,559 --> 00:12:40,839 Speaker 2: gonna mention this on the podcast, but I will say, 249 00:12:41,720 --> 00:12:45,920 Speaker 2: grosser than straps, grosser than slaps, grosser than needles through 250 00:12:46,000 --> 00:12:56,360 Speaker 2: the lip uh. Daniel Garcia spitting in MJ's mjf's space, 251 00:12:56,720 --> 00:13:00,800 Speaker 2: the biggest league spit I've ever scene in my life 252 00:13:00,920 --> 00:13:03,000 Speaker 2: might be the grossest thing I've seen in wrestling. 253 00:13:03,320 --> 00:13:05,959 Speaker 1: The spit is like this, we're gonna sidetrack here, but 254 00:13:06,240 --> 00:13:09,160 Speaker 1: because this is too good. But the spit is like 255 00:13:09,920 --> 00:13:15,400 Speaker 1: the worst sign of disrespect, literally and figuratively. I remember 256 00:13:15,520 --> 00:13:18,360 Speaker 1: in the state of California, it's considered a sault if 257 00:13:18,400 --> 00:13:21,120 Speaker 1: someone spits in your face and knock them the fuck out. 258 00:13:21,559 --> 00:13:23,959 Speaker 1: You are not going to jail. They assaulted you and 259 00:13:24,040 --> 00:13:26,880 Speaker 1: you defended yourself. And my godfather, who was Bob Wall 260 00:13:26,960 --> 00:13:29,640 Speaker 1: he passed away about a year and a half ago. Sorry, 261 00:13:29,679 --> 00:13:31,000 Speaker 1: I loved him a lot, so I get a little 262 00:13:31,040 --> 00:13:34,240 Speaker 1: choked up. But he was a really tough son of 263 00:13:34,280 --> 00:13:35,719 Speaker 1: a bitch and he was the one that got me 264 00:13:35,800 --> 00:13:37,840 Speaker 1: hip to that. He said, someone spits in your face, 265 00:13:37,880 --> 00:13:40,679 Speaker 1: you have to beat them until they cry. And I 266 00:13:40,840 --> 00:13:43,160 Speaker 1: was like thirteen. I was like why because then they'll 267 00:13:43,240 --> 00:13:47,040 Speaker 1: never forget. And I was just like, sho, you gotta 268 00:13:47,120 --> 00:13:49,319 Speaker 1: beat him till they cry. So that was our That 269 00:13:49,480 --> 00:13:51,559 Speaker 1: was our motto when I was a kid, and he 270 00:13:51,720 --> 00:13:54,000 Speaker 1: was kind of helping raise me up because I have 271 00:13:54,000 --> 00:13:56,640 Speaker 1: an old man, so he's kind of my dad. But yeah, 272 00:13:56,640 --> 00:13:58,360 Speaker 1: he was so hardcore and it was all about that 273 00:13:58,480 --> 00:14:00,760 Speaker 1: spit in the face, and he got away with fighting 274 00:14:00,840 --> 00:14:03,360 Speaker 1: guys who didn't spit in his face, but he just 275 00:14:03,440 --> 00:14:05,480 Speaker 1: go start fights, beat their ass. When the cops would 276 00:14:05,480 --> 00:14:06,400 Speaker 1: show up, he goes, what do you want me to do? 277 00:14:06,480 --> 00:14:08,560 Speaker 1: The guy spin in my fucking face and the cops 278 00:14:08,600 --> 00:14:11,760 Speaker 1: will be like, oh, that's assault in this state. So yeah, 279 00:14:11,800 --> 00:14:13,679 Speaker 1: you defended yourself. And he's like, all right, gentlemen, have 280 00:14:13,760 --> 00:14:15,480 Speaker 1: a great night. And we would go home and he 281 00:14:15,520 --> 00:14:17,160 Speaker 1: would fight in front of us like he didn't care. 282 00:14:17,200 --> 00:14:19,080 Speaker 1: He just loved fighting. He was an old school karate 283 00:14:19,200 --> 00:14:21,880 Speaker 1: guy that used to train with Bruce Lee and trained 284 00:14:22,040 --> 00:14:24,800 Speaker 1: and trained Bruce Lee when Bruce came to America. All 285 00:14:24,880 --> 00:14:27,560 Speaker 1: those guys trained each other because they all had different styles. 286 00:14:27,920 --> 00:14:30,080 Speaker 1: But he was one of the toughest dudes on Earth man. 287 00:14:30,120 --> 00:14:31,840 Speaker 1: And that's spin in the face thing. He was like, Yeah, 288 00:14:31,920 --> 00:14:33,760 Speaker 1: they spit in your face. You beat him? Do they cry? 289 00:14:33,840 --> 00:14:36,080 Speaker 1: Freddy beat him? Do they cry? Sounds like Bence, He 290 00:14:36,120 --> 00:14:52,960 Speaker 1: didn't sound like Vincent real life. We had some other 291 00:14:53,040 --> 00:14:55,680 Speaker 1: great matches as well, plenty of matches on the card 292 00:14:55,720 --> 00:14:57,320 Speaker 1: to talk about. We won't have time to get into 293 00:14:57,360 --> 00:15:01,280 Speaker 1: them all, but we will talk about will spray because 294 00:15:01,320 --> 00:15:04,640 Speaker 1: he's just too sick at wrestling, man, Like he's just 295 00:15:06,720 --> 00:15:09,320 Speaker 1: I don't understand how I haven't seen him screw anything 296 00:15:09,400 --> 00:15:12,760 Speaker 1: up yet I have, and if he has, he's so 297 00:15:12,920 --> 00:15:15,520 Speaker 1: good that he just kind of like flowed through the 298 00:15:15,600 --> 00:15:18,320 Speaker 1: screw up so that you don't even notice and moved 299 00:15:18,360 --> 00:15:20,760 Speaker 1: on to something else, Like I've never seen the dude 300 00:15:20,840 --> 00:15:23,640 Speaker 1: make a mistake, or he's so good that I'm and 301 00:15:23,760 --> 00:15:26,040 Speaker 1: I'm so dumb that I can't see the mistakes. But 302 00:15:26,160 --> 00:15:29,520 Speaker 1: it's like watching him, dude, it's like watching a magician. 303 00:15:30,040 --> 00:15:33,160 Speaker 1: It's like watching that guy that freaks everybody out the 304 00:15:33,320 --> 00:15:34,960 Speaker 1: street magician guy I don't remember his. 305 00:15:35,040 --> 00:15:37,360 Speaker 2: Name, David Blaine, David Blaine, Yeah. 306 00:15:37,240 --> 00:15:39,880 Speaker 1: Where You're just like, hold up, dude, how the hell 307 00:15:40,000 --> 00:15:43,080 Speaker 1: did you just do that? You were standing still and 308 00:15:43,160 --> 00:15:45,800 Speaker 1: did a backflip with a twist and kicked six guys 309 00:15:45,880 --> 00:15:48,320 Speaker 1: in the head and landed on your fucking pinky toe 310 00:15:48,880 --> 00:15:51,280 Speaker 1: and on the top rope, Like, I just don't understand. 311 00:15:51,280 --> 00:15:54,200 Speaker 1: It's like watching Looney Tunes cartoons and seeing and and 312 00:15:54,360 --> 00:15:56,960 Speaker 1: seeing shit for the first time every time. I think 313 00:15:57,000 --> 00:15:59,840 Speaker 1: he's so and he's wrestling a dude who was his 314 00:16:00,240 --> 00:16:03,280 Speaker 1: before he was him in PAC like Pac used to 315 00:16:03,280 --> 00:16:05,240 Speaker 1: be in WWE, and he was the one doing the 316 00:16:05,320 --> 00:16:07,360 Speaker 1: crazy shit, and everyone was like, Oh, he's gonna get hurt, 317 00:16:07,600 --> 00:16:09,760 Speaker 1: He's gonna get hurt doing all this crazy shit. And 318 00:16:09,800 --> 00:16:11,600 Speaker 1: then you see him and he's just awesome all the 319 00:16:11,680 --> 00:16:13,440 Speaker 1: time and he's not getting hurt, and you wonder why 320 00:16:13,520 --> 00:16:16,400 Speaker 1: you limit these wrestlers when they're complete professionals and freaking 321 00:16:16,480 --> 00:16:18,800 Speaker 1: know what they're doing. And will Ospray's one of those 322 00:16:18,840 --> 00:16:21,960 Speaker 1: guys where, yeah, maybe everybody shouldn't do everything he does, 323 00:16:22,520 --> 00:16:25,200 Speaker 1: but he's physically gifted enough that he can get away 324 00:16:25,280 --> 00:16:28,680 Speaker 1: with everything he does and not put himself in at 325 00:16:28,800 --> 00:16:31,720 Speaker 1: greater risk than what he feels is necessary, because there's 326 00:16:31,800 --> 00:16:35,280 Speaker 1: risk in wrestling no matter what. But he's not crossing 327 00:16:35,360 --> 00:16:38,040 Speaker 1: any line that he's not comfortable with. And everything looks 328 00:16:38,080 --> 00:16:41,080 Speaker 1: so awesome and so great, and now he's gonna fucking 329 00:16:41,160 --> 00:16:45,200 Speaker 1: wrestle Ricochet. He's gonna fucking wrestle Ricochet. Who if you 330 00:16:45,240 --> 00:16:48,800 Speaker 1: guys remember I gushed about this dude when he wrestled 331 00:16:48,840 --> 00:16:51,760 Speaker 1: Santos Escobar in their World Cup Classic thing that they 332 00:16:51,840 --> 00:16:53,840 Speaker 1: tried to get over, and then I was educated that 333 00:16:53,960 --> 00:16:56,120 Speaker 1: that was a match they had in Luca Underground. So 334 00:16:56,200 --> 00:16:58,240 Speaker 1: I went back and watched the Lucha Underground match, which 335 00:16:58,280 --> 00:17:00,880 Speaker 1: was better than the WWE match, by the way. And 336 00:17:01,000 --> 00:17:02,760 Speaker 1: now these two dudes are going to put it all 337 00:17:02,760 --> 00:17:05,679 Speaker 1: on the line. They're the kind of guys that can 338 00:17:05,720 --> 00:17:07,760 Speaker 1: give you a match of the year. And I heard 339 00:17:07,840 --> 00:17:10,080 Speaker 1: Jeff and our producer Alex talking at the beginning of 340 00:17:10,119 --> 00:17:13,520 Speaker 1: the show like, we don't appreciate the wrestling that we're in. 341 00:17:14,119 --> 00:17:16,520 Speaker 1: We look back at it in hindsight and we identify 342 00:17:16,600 --> 00:17:18,639 Speaker 1: it as great. This can be one of those matches 343 00:17:18,720 --> 00:17:21,880 Speaker 1: that people remember that wrestling fans. Not everyone, not Joe 344 00:17:21,960 --> 00:17:24,120 Speaker 1: on the street, they don't want wrestling, but that wrestling 345 00:17:24,200 --> 00:17:26,600 Speaker 1: fans can remember forever as long as they give us 346 00:17:26,600 --> 00:17:28,680 Speaker 1: a reason why. Otherwise it's just a great match, and 347 00:17:28,800 --> 00:17:31,520 Speaker 1: that can be cool too. Sheldon Benjamin versus Sean Michaels 348 00:17:31,560 --> 00:17:34,280 Speaker 1: Monday Night Raw, No Reason Why one of the greatest 349 00:17:34,320 --> 00:17:37,199 Speaker 1: matches I've ever seen. Not shitting on that at all, 350 00:17:37,400 --> 00:17:40,000 Speaker 1: but the reason why is what makes me care and 351 00:17:40,119 --> 00:17:42,800 Speaker 1: remember even more and like to share that stuff. But 352 00:17:42,880 --> 00:17:44,439 Speaker 1: that's still one of the greatest matches I ever saw. 353 00:17:44,480 --> 00:17:46,879 Speaker 1: Shelton Benjamin, Shawn Michaels Monday Night Raw. Check it out 354 00:17:46,920 --> 00:17:50,320 Speaker 1: on YouTube. It's awesome. Jeff, I know you love will Ospray, 355 00:17:50,400 --> 00:17:51,639 Speaker 1: but did I miss anything? 356 00:17:52,640 --> 00:17:54,520 Speaker 2: Not at all. I love both those guys too, and 357 00:17:54,560 --> 00:17:56,879 Speaker 2: I think this is I know everyone's all eyes are 358 00:17:56,920 --> 00:17:59,040 Speaker 2: on will Ospray because they should be. He's a star, 359 00:17:59,440 --> 00:18:02,320 Speaker 2: but I that this gives a little more eyes to 360 00:18:02,600 --> 00:18:06,720 Speaker 2: pac who I think has been very underrated as a 361 00:18:06,880 --> 00:18:09,480 Speaker 2: as a wrestler. Like everyone acknowledges that he's great, but 362 00:18:09,800 --> 00:18:11,960 Speaker 2: he should be a bigger star too. When he was 363 00:18:12,600 --> 00:18:14,439 Speaker 2: when he was in two A five Live is Neville. 364 00:18:15,040 --> 00:18:17,120 Speaker 2: I remember being like, dude, this guy's like a star 365 00:18:17,320 --> 00:18:18,840 Speaker 2: star and if you could just find a place that 366 00:18:19,000 --> 00:18:21,159 Speaker 2: recognizes that. And so when I saw that he went 367 00:18:21,160 --> 00:18:23,960 Speaker 2: to AW I was like, yes, that's that's huge. I 368 00:18:24,040 --> 00:18:26,720 Speaker 2: remembered him back in the day, or not back that far, 369 00:18:26,800 --> 00:18:28,680 Speaker 2: but back when he was at two A five Lives, 370 00:18:28,680 --> 00:18:31,080 Speaker 2: and I was like, such a big fan. This Ricochet 371 00:18:31,200 --> 00:18:33,240 Speaker 2: thing with will Osprey is gonna be huge too, because 372 00:18:33,280 --> 00:18:36,440 Speaker 2: the only reason will the only reason Ricochet has a 373 00:18:36,560 --> 00:18:39,879 Speaker 2: paycheck in ae W is because of will Osprey putting 374 00:18:39,920 --> 00:18:42,359 Speaker 2: him over randomly in a promo. 375 00:18:42,480 --> 00:18:45,320 Speaker 1: Do you remember like he like just like he sort 376 00:18:45,359 --> 00:18:47,119 Speaker 1: of do you remember that? Yeah, I sort of. Do 377 00:18:47,160 --> 00:18:50,000 Speaker 1: you have like an invitation to come wrestle? Yeah, it was. 378 00:18:50,160 --> 00:18:52,040 Speaker 2: He was just saying, like they're idiots over there. The 379 00:18:52,160 --> 00:18:55,440 Speaker 2: fact that they're not using ricochet. He used to watch 380 00:18:55,560 --> 00:18:59,280 Speaker 2: ricochet with like like this guy, look at this guy. Yeah, 381 00:18:59,440 --> 00:19:01,000 Speaker 2: so I'm excited to see what they come up with. 382 00:19:01,119 --> 00:19:03,399 Speaker 2: And they're clearly very close, so it's gonna be awesome. 383 00:19:03,480 --> 00:19:04,800 Speaker 2: Whatever they do is gonna be awesome. 384 00:19:05,920 --> 00:19:09,200 Speaker 1: All right, Jeff. Finally we're closing out with Brian Danielson 385 00:19:10,040 --> 00:19:13,879 Speaker 1: versus Jack Perry the Scapegoat, and we don't have to 386 00:19:13,920 --> 00:19:15,600 Speaker 1: talk about the match because the end of the match 387 00:19:15,720 --> 00:19:18,399 Speaker 1: is really the match was awesome. Jack Perry with a 388 00:19:18,520 --> 00:19:23,160 Speaker 1: very defiant fu takes the loss. They had two defiant FEUs. 389 00:19:23,520 --> 00:19:26,080 Speaker 1: They were performed differently, which made it okay, but they 390 00:19:26,160 --> 00:19:29,000 Speaker 1: did do two of the defiant fews in the same show. 391 00:19:30,359 --> 00:19:35,600 Speaker 1: But this was betrayal. After the sweetest smile ever, like, 392 00:19:36,080 --> 00:19:39,800 Speaker 1: Brian Danielson is about to get jumped by Christian and 393 00:19:39,960 --> 00:19:43,000 Speaker 1: the patriarchy because Christian has a contract that lets him 394 00:19:43,080 --> 00:19:45,480 Speaker 1: challenge for the belt anytime he wants, and he wants 395 00:19:45,520 --> 00:19:48,240 Speaker 1: to be the one to retire Brian Danielson because Brian's 396 00:19:48,240 --> 00:19:51,600 Speaker 1: wrestling without a contract as the world champion, and here 397 00:19:51,680 --> 00:19:55,280 Speaker 1: they come. He gets attacked by this guy named Lucasaurus, 398 00:19:55,280 --> 00:19:58,600 Speaker 1: who they call kill Switch. I think now kill switch, 399 00:19:58,720 --> 00:20:02,200 Speaker 1: kill shots, swerves, move, kill switch. We're like, yo, what 400 00:20:02,320 --> 00:20:04,200 Speaker 1: the hell? Jack Perry's like, Yo, what the hell you 401 00:20:04,320 --> 00:20:05,879 Speaker 1: used to be my boy? What's going on? And all 402 00:20:05,880 --> 00:20:09,000 Speaker 1: of a sudden, here they come, and we're like, oh crap, 403 00:20:09,320 --> 00:20:12,119 Speaker 1: Brian's gonna be retired early. All of a sudden, here 404 00:20:12,200 --> 00:20:15,920 Speaker 1: comes Brian's group, the Blackpool Combat Club with Neville or 405 00:20:15,960 --> 00:20:22,920 Speaker 1: sorry Neville, with Poc Wheeler, Yuda and Claudio Casignoli, and 406 00:20:23,200 --> 00:20:26,960 Speaker 1: here comes friggin John Moxley. And John Moxley was actually 407 00:20:26,960 --> 00:20:29,040 Speaker 1: the first one out there, just standing there looking buff 408 00:20:29,119 --> 00:20:30,639 Speaker 1: and a white T shirt, like what what are you 409 00:20:30,680 --> 00:20:33,440 Speaker 1: gonna do? Christian punk ass bitch, And Christian's like, I'll 410 00:20:33,480 --> 00:20:35,880 Speaker 1: see your ass lads, son of a bitch, and all 411 00:20:35,920 --> 00:20:37,359 Speaker 1: the rest of the guys come out and then they 412 00:20:37,400 --> 00:20:39,640 Speaker 1: go in the ring and they cut to this close 413 00:20:39,720 --> 00:20:42,240 Speaker 1: up of Brian Danielson just kind of having this. He's 414 00:20:42,240 --> 00:20:44,520 Speaker 1: got this nice guy, tough guy smile where he's like, 415 00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:47,680 Speaker 1: my fucking dogs, man, they showed up. They got my 416 00:20:47,800 --> 00:20:50,600 Speaker 1: frigging back, that's what's up. Well, they did not have 417 00:20:50,760 --> 00:20:54,160 Speaker 1: his back, Jeff. They came out there and basically John 418 00:20:54,240 --> 00:20:57,560 Speaker 1: Moxley is the head of the Blackpool Combat Club and 419 00:20:58,400 --> 00:21:00,840 Speaker 1: he doesn't want Christian to get the belt. He wants 420 00:21:00,880 --> 00:21:03,600 Speaker 1: that belt. He doesn't want Christian to retire Brian Danielson. 421 00:21:03,920 --> 00:21:06,720 Speaker 1: He wants to be the one, and Blackpool Combat Club 422 00:21:06,800 --> 00:21:08,600 Speaker 1: is kind of like we rank you in like a 423 00:21:08,720 --> 00:21:11,200 Speaker 1: street gang. Like that's how Wheeler you'd have got in. 424 00:21:11,280 --> 00:21:13,040 Speaker 1: He had to wrestle everyone and take a beating and 425 00:21:13,119 --> 00:21:15,120 Speaker 1: then he was in the club. They didn't so much 426 00:21:15,200 --> 00:21:18,000 Speaker 1: do that with with POC because Pak ain't having that bullshit, 427 00:21:18,359 --> 00:21:20,520 Speaker 1: but they that's kind of their mo. So I guess 428 00:21:20,560 --> 00:21:22,520 Speaker 1: this is gonna be his ranking out of the gang, 429 00:21:22,640 --> 00:21:24,440 Speaker 1: like oh, you want out the gang, and you're gonna 430 00:21:24,440 --> 00:21:26,360 Speaker 1: get your ass beat out the gang. And they all 431 00:21:26,440 --> 00:21:28,520 Speaker 1: turned on him except Wheeler Udo, who was like, oh 432 00:21:28,680 --> 00:21:30,880 Speaker 1: come on. It was very good Fellas where he's looking 433 00:21:30,920 --> 00:21:33,240 Speaker 1: at his brother getting beat up and then thrown in 434 00:21:33,280 --> 00:21:35,680 Speaker 1: the hole. It was beautiful. I loved watching it. 435 00:21:35,840 --> 00:21:36,359 Speaker 2: It was sad. 436 00:21:36,800 --> 00:21:38,480 Speaker 1: They put a bag over his head and tried to 437 00:21:38,480 --> 00:21:40,639 Speaker 1: suffocate him for over a minute, which was weird and 438 00:21:40,760 --> 00:21:43,399 Speaker 1: defied the laws of physics. But other than that, it 439 00:21:43,520 --> 00:21:45,800 Speaker 1: was pretty badass man, and it made me sad in 440 00:21:45,880 --> 00:21:48,680 Speaker 1: a good way. Yeah, Murder's bat and we should just 441 00:21:48,800 --> 00:21:50,840 Speaker 1: end with that. Murder is bad. I just would I 442 00:21:50,920 --> 00:21:52,760 Speaker 1: want Tony want to think a pro murder. 443 00:21:53,760 --> 00:21:57,560 Speaker 2: You nailed it. Murder is bad. What did you think 444 00:21:57,600 --> 00:21:59,919 Speaker 2: of the betrayal? It felt It felt old school wrestling, 445 00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:02,879 Speaker 2: which is what I liked. It felt very uh you 446 00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:06,200 Speaker 2: know that the locker rooms coming out. Who are they with? 447 00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:08,040 Speaker 2: You know, it's kind of got that money Night Wars 448 00:22:08,160 --> 00:22:10,560 Speaker 2: vibe of like you know, is it nWo? Is it? 449 00:22:10,720 --> 00:22:12,920 Speaker 2: Whose side are they on? You know? Is this is 450 00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:13,560 Speaker 2: this city? 451 00:22:13,640 --> 00:22:16,720 Speaker 1: It's almost older to me, like almost like NWA, like 452 00:22:17,040 --> 00:22:19,320 Speaker 1: Flair turning on sting when you're like I knew you 453 00:22:19,359 --> 00:22:21,159 Speaker 1: were going to turn but you made me believe your 454 00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:23,000 Speaker 1: son of a attack man. 455 00:22:23,119 --> 00:22:26,680 Speaker 2: It has that real pursuit of power, you know, it 456 00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:30,200 Speaker 2: has this like power can corrupt. You know. It isn't 457 00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:33,119 Speaker 2: about friendship. It's about you have something I want and 458 00:22:33,280 --> 00:22:35,600 Speaker 2: now you will be you know, it's got this old 459 00:22:35,760 --> 00:22:40,119 Speaker 2: school feeling of like I'll do anything to get that belt, 460 00:22:40,640 --> 00:22:43,320 Speaker 2: to have that championship, and I like that Stary. 461 00:22:43,119 --> 00:22:45,760 Speaker 1: And Moxley's the perfect guy for that, Jeff. Like, I know, 462 00:22:45,880 --> 00:22:48,840 Speaker 1: they called Jacob Fatu the werewolf because Corey Graves is 463 00:22:49,080 --> 00:22:50,879 Speaker 1: more relevant in the wrestling world than I am. But 464 00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:53,800 Speaker 1: I call John Moxley the werewolf because he talks like one, 465 00:22:53,880 --> 00:22:57,600 Speaker 1: he looks like one. He wrestles like when he lets 466 00:22:57,680 --> 00:23:00,200 Speaker 1: himself get scruffy, it just looks like what you be 467 00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:02,879 Speaker 1: in a werewolf movie, like after the night's over, when 468 00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:05,880 Speaker 1: you recover. So to me, he's the werewolf. I really 469 00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:10,840 Speaker 1: like this dude a lot. He's so badass and he's 470 00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:13,159 Speaker 1: just kind of like he said this in a promo, 471 00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:15,800 Speaker 1: but he's the heart and soul of AW. Like he's 472 00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:20,480 Speaker 1: that hardcore blood. Every single match, I'm gonna bleed every time. 473 00:23:21,119 --> 00:23:23,919 Speaker 1: AW guy. He'll do the chops, he'll take the chops. 474 00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:25,600 Speaker 1: He'll let you punch him right in the face. He 475 00:23:25,640 --> 00:23:28,200 Speaker 1: doesn't care as long as you're cool with him punching 476 00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:30,840 Speaker 1: you back. But I like John Moxley lot, and this 477 00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:32,879 Speaker 1: is gonna be a really cool story of brothers that 478 00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:36,320 Speaker 1: betrayed one or well one brother that betrayed another, and 479 00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:38,280 Speaker 1: is he gonna be able to take him down? Because 480 00:23:38,320 --> 00:23:40,280 Speaker 1: now Daniel's gonna have to deal with everybody. And I 481 00:23:40,359 --> 00:23:40,639 Speaker 1: love that. 482 00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:42,879 Speaker 2: I also think that John Moxley might have been the 483 00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:45,240 Speaker 2: only guy in the locker room who saw that needle 484 00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:47,439 Speaker 2: through the lip and thought, oh, how come we never 485 00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:50,400 Speaker 2: did that? How come I never thought of that? Oh 486 00:23:50,560 --> 00:23:53,080 Speaker 2: that was cool, man, I've never done that one before. 487 00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:55,640 Speaker 1: You know you're dead on. I think you're absolutely right. 488 00:23:55,840 --> 00:23:59,399 Speaker 1: You guys, no listener reviews for the Thursday show. Make 489 00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:01,000 Speaker 1: sure you give us those reviews. I'll read them on 490 00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:02,720 Speaker 1: the air. I'll shout you out. If you just want 491 00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:05,000 Speaker 1: to shout out, I do this show's cool. Shout me 492 00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:07,399 Speaker 1: out and I'll say that and shout you out. Anyway, 493 00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:09,680 Speaker 1: Thanks for tuning in. Tell your friends, tune in every Wednesday, 494 00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:12,680 Speaker 1: tune in every Thursday, or whatever day you tune in 495 00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:15,720 Speaker 1: to us. 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