1 00:00:02,680 --> 00:00:06,960 Speaker 1: What's up everybody. Welcome in to another edition of Foul Territory. 2 00:00:07,040 --> 00:00:10,360 Speaker 1: I'm Kyle Glazer Pinch Hitting today as your host, joined 3 00:00:10,360 --> 00:00:14,360 Speaker 1: as always by the great Aj Prasinski and Eric Kratz. Guys, 4 00:00:14,680 --> 00:00:17,799 Speaker 1: it's exciting times, got the GM meetings going, It's award seasons, 5 00:00:17,800 --> 00:00:20,520 Speaker 1: SILD votes are announced tonight. It's a good time. 6 00:00:21,960 --> 00:00:25,000 Speaker 2: It is. It is a good time. It's a weird 7 00:00:25,040 --> 00:00:27,240 Speaker 2: time for baseball fans because there's no games going on 8 00:00:27,320 --> 00:00:29,800 Speaker 2: really other than I guess the Winter leagues. But as 9 00:00:29,840 --> 00:00:32,880 Speaker 2: far as awards and free agencies is ready to kick 10 00:00:32,920 --> 00:00:36,599 Speaker 2: off and GM meetings where gms will have interviews and 11 00:00:36,760 --> 00:00:40,480 Speaker 2: say nothing. We'd like to really spend money, but we're 12 00:00:40,479 --> 00:00:42,760 Speaker 2: not going to spend money. We want affordable guys, but 13 00:00:42,800 --> 00:00:46,120 Speaker 2: we're willing to go out and sign. It's always nothing. 14 00:00:46,159 --> 00:00:48,280 Speaker 2: So I'm just waiting for a GM to say something 15 00:00:48,320 --> 00:00:50,600 Speaker 2: at one time, like Brian Cashman had it happened a 16 00:00:50,640 --> 00:00:53,400 Speaker 2: couple of years ago. But when will the GM say something. 17 00:00:55,640 --> 00:00:58,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, we did see yesterday Jed Hoyer at the Cubs 18 00:00:58,160 --> 00:01:00,680 Speaker 1: talk about, hey, they are going to prioritize pitching. We 19 00:01:00,680 --> 00:01:03,240 Speaker 1: saw Aj Pearler, I thought interestingly mentioned that they are 20 00:01:03,360 --> 00:01:05,959 Speaker 1: interested in bringing back Luisa riz at first base just 21 00:01:06,040 --> 00:01:08,640 Speaker 1: given their power needs, finishing twenty eighth in Homers last year. 22 00:01:08,680 --> 00:01:12,080 Speaker 1: So I do always feel like they sometimes tip their 23 00:01:12,120 --> 00:01:14,360 Speaker 1: hand a little bit, but you're right, for the most part, 24 00:01:14,840 --> 00:01:17,119 Speaker 1: this is not a time when we see the full 25 00:01:17,200 --> 00:01:20,200 Speaker 1: plan on display. I mean, Eric, you've you've you've seen 26 00:01:20,319 --> 00:01:22,760 Speaker 1: all the gms speak after all the different teams you've 27 00:01:22,760 --> 00:01:24,600 Speaker 1: played for over the years. You know that as well 28 00:01:24,640 --> 00:01:25,120 Speaker 1: as anyone. 29 00:01:26,160 --> 00:01:29,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, they speak like mice on TV, but they rule 30 00:01:29,240 --> 00:01:32,720 Speaker 3: like lions behind the scenes. Nobody's ever, Nobody ever sent 31 00:01:32,800 --> 00:01:36,679 Speaker 3: me down and was like, well, you know, it's really 32 00:01:36,920 --> 00:01:41,880 Speaker 3: just uh, we'll see where the path goes. No, they're like, sorry, 33 00:01:42,120 --> 00:01:43,800 Speaker 3: you didn't hit good enough, so we're gonna go and 34 00:01:43,840 --> 00:01:45,040 Speaker 3: get somebody that does better. 35 00:01:46,680 --> 00:01:49,240 Speaker 1: Yes, indeed, Well again, we have the SYNG Awards going 36 00:01:49,240 --> 00:01:52,040 Speaker 1: to be announced tonight, MVP Awards announced tomorrow. A lot 37 00:01:52,080 --> 00:01:54,920 Speaker 1: of good stuff coming up. A quick reminder once again, 38 00:01:55,280 --> 00:01:57,800 Speaker 1: go ahead and subscribe tweet tweet at us here on 39 00:01:57,880 --> 00:02:01,240 Speaker 1: FT Live by Merchant foul Territory Shop. It's a lot 40 00:02:01,280 --> 00:02:03,880 Speaker 1: of good stuff. And with that, it's time to charge 41 00:02:03,880 --> 00:02:12,840 Speaker 1: them mount all right, guys, So signing awards will be 42 00:02:12,880 --> 00:02:15,960 Speaker 1: announced tonight. We have Paul Skeans in the National League 43 00:02:15,960 --> 00:02:18,639 Speaker 1: and Trek Scoogle in the American League considered pretty much 44 00:02:18,680 --> 00:02:21,480 Speaker 1: the runaway winners. Age. I want to start with you, 45 00:02:22,639 --> 00:02:24,840 Speaker 1: the question is not whether Skins and Scooba will win, 46 00:02:25,240 --> 00:02:27,680 Speaker 1: it's whether or not they will be unanimous. Do you 47 00:02:27,720 --> 00:02:30,480 Speaker 1: think either of them deserve to be unanimous this year? 48 00:02:31,440 --> 00:02:32,440 Speaker 3: Uh? 49 00:02:32,520 --> 00:02:39,320 Speaker 2: Jeez, I think Skimes, Skimes, you know what. I think 50 00:02:39,320 --> 00:02:41,480 Speaker 2: they gotta both have a chance. I think I think 51 00:02:41,520 --> 00:02:43,840 Speaker 2: Scooble is gonna get it again. I think I don't know, 52 00:02:43,960 --> 00:02:46,639 Speaker 2: Crochet and Hunter Brown didn't do enough, especially towards the end. 53 00:02:47,400 --> 00:02:50,120 Speaker 2: And if you include Sanchez might steal a vote from 54 00:02:50,120 --> 00:02:52,040 Speaker 2: so I think Scooble will be unanimous. I don't think 55 00:02:52,040 --> 00:02:54,839 Speaker 2: Schemes will just because I think Sanchez or Yama modor 56 00:02:54,880 --> 00:02:57,799 Speaker 2: are gonna steal a vote fromwhere. Now here's the better thing. 57 00:02:57,880 --> 00:03:00,000 Speaker 2: If they included the postseason, I know not all these 58 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:03,320 Speaker 2: as in the postseason. You have to make a case 59 00:03:03,360 --> 00:03:05,679 Speaker 2: for Yamamoto and what he did in the postseason for 60 00:03:05,760 --> 00:03:09,639 Speaker 2: the Dodgers. So in Christopher Sanchez pitch great. Now, it's 61 00:03:09,639 --> 00:03:11,959 Speaker 2: not Skeen's fault, they didn't make it, but I think 62 00:03:12,040 --> 00:03:14,840 Speaker 2: Sanchez or Yamamoto will sneeze steal a vote, and I 63 00:03:14,840 --> 00:03:16,400 Speaker 2: think School is going to be unanimous. 64 00:03:17,960 --> 00:03:19,800 Speaker 1: Eric, what about you? Where do you stand? Once again? 65 00:03:19,840 --> 00:03:23,040 Speaker 1: The NLSA Young finalists Christopher Sanchez with the Phillies, Paul 66 00:03:23,080 --> 00:03:26,240 Speaker 1: Skeins with the Pirates, Yoshinoba Yamamoto with the Dodgers. Over 67 00:03:26,280 --> 00:03:28,519 Speaker 1: in the American League, Garrett Crochet with the Red Sox, 68 00:03:28,720 --> 00:03:31,640 Speaker 1: Hunter Brown with the Astros, and Trek Skouoball. Do you 69 00:03:31,720 --> 00:03:34,360 Speaker 1: think Scooball or Skeens deserve to be unanimous? 70 00:03:35,520 --> 00:03:37,680 Speaker 3: I think they do deserve to be unanimous. But I'm 71 00:03:37,760 --> 00:03:40,760 Speaker 3: going to go the opposite of what aj just said. 72 00:03:41,120 --> 00:03:43,760 Speaker 3: I think I think in the American League, I think 73 00:03:43,920 --> 00:03:46,440 Speaker 3: Crochet is probably the only one that gets a chance 74 00:03:46,560 --> 00:03:50,840 Speaker 3: to maybe take a take a first place vote away 75 00:03:50,880 --> 00:03:55,720 Speaker 3: from Schooble. I think I think Skeens did exactly what 76 00:03:55,920 --> 00:03:58,840 Speaker 3: Like his numbers, he had I think one blip on 77 00:03:58,880 --> 00:04:01,320 Speaker 3: the radar the whole season, but he was he was 78 00:04:01,440 --> 00:04:05,640 Speaker 3: essentially beginning to end favorite to win the cy Young 79 00:04:05,760 --> 00:04:08,560 Speaker 3: and he did it like rarely do you see that. 80 00:04:08,640 --> 00:04:12,240 Speaker 3: Normally it's like, Okay, this dude's coming in. Scooble probably 81 00:04:12,280 --> 00:04:15,840 Speaker 3: coming in to be that favorite. Again, I think Crochet 82 00:04:15,920 --> 00:04:18,920 Speaker 3: gave him a run for his money. He ultimately will 83 00:04:18,960 --> 00:04:22,680 Speaker 3: not will not beat him, but I think I think school. 84 00:04:22,680 --> 00:04:26,239 Speaker 3: I think Scooble loses one first place vote to Crochet. 85 00:04:27,160 --> 00:04:29,240 Speaker 1: Diving into the NL race here a little bit Paul 86 00:04:29,279 --> 00:04:32,760 Speaker 1: Skeen's look. This was an incredible year one nine seven 87 00:04:32,800 --> 00:04:35,200 Speaker 1: ERA that was more than half a run lower than 88 00:04:35,200 --> 00:04:38,320 Speaker 1: his closest competition in the National League. Again, pick your 89 00:04:38,360 --> 00:04:43,000 Speaker 1: favorite statistic whip strikeouts fip ERA plus its skins by 90 00:04:43,040 --> 00:04:46,000 Speaker 1: a mile. What's interesting about this is he went ten 91 00:04:46,040 --> 00:04:47,840 Speaker 1: to ten, and we know we're in an age where 92 00:04:47,920 --> 00:04:51,240 Speaker 1: wins are not considered the big factor in SIL voting 93 00:04:51,240 --> 00:04:54,880 Speaker 1: that they wore one long time ago. Nonetheless, it is 94 00:04:54,920 --> 00:04:57,240 Speaker 1: interesting the concept of a pitchure with a five hundred 95 00:04:57,400 --> 00:05:00,320 Speaker 1: record winning the SAI Young Award, when as recently twenty 96 00:05:00,400 --> 00:05:02,279 Speaker 1: years ago it would have been unthinkable. And again, it 97 00:05:02,320 --> 00:05:05,039 Speaker 1: wasn't his fault. His offense only provided him with eleven 98 00:05:05,160 --> 00:05:08,160 Speaker 1: runs in those ten losses, So I mean, his case 99 00:05:08,240 --> 00:05:10,520 Speaker 1: really speaks for itself. But nonetheless it is kind of 100 00:05:10,520 --> 00:05:11,560 Speaker 1: a historical anomaly. 101 00:05:13,040 --> 00:05:15,640 Speaker 2: You think though really because didn't Felix when Felix won 102 00:05:15,680 --> 00:05:18,440 Speaker 2: the one year. There's been some guys that have done this, 103 00:05:18,480 --> 00:05:20,279 Speaker 2: so I don't know that it's that big of anomenaly anymore. 104 00:05:20,279 --> 00:05:23,520 Speaker 2: Because of the advanced metrics. Now, I think that this 105 00:05:23,560 --> 00:05:26,760 Speaker 2: has just become wins. This is the whole wins don't matter, 106 00:05:26,800 --> 00:05:29,800 Speaker 2: which I kind of disagree with because win shouldn't matter 107 00:05:30,040 --> 00:05:31,280 Speaker 2: because at the end of the day, you get paid 108 00:05:31,279 --> 00:05:32,760 Speaker 2: on wins and losses. This is a team. 109 00:05:33,720 --> 00:05:35,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, so Felix was at least a little bit over 110 00:05:35,720 --> 00:05:38,200 Speaker 1: five hundred. He was thirteen and twelve, so one game over. 111 00:05:38,240 --> 00:05:38,720 Speaker 2: But you're right. 112 00:05:38,760 --> 00:05:41,120 Speaker 1: I mean we've seen wins sort of be de emphasized, 113 00:05:41,240 --> 00:05:43,920 Speaker 1: and you mentioned it's something that you don't necessarily agree with. Eric, 114 00:05:43,960 --> 00:05:44,680 Speaker 1: where are you on that? 115 00:05:46,040 --> 00:05:49,440 Speaker 3: I mean, wins, wins are important. Starting pitchers need to win. 116 00:05:49,960 --> 00:05:53,640 Speaker 3: But the reality is, like even in Felix's case, I 117 00:05:53,680 --> 00:05:55,760 Speaker 3: think he had two hundred and fifty innings or two 118 00:05:55,839 --> 00:06:00,280 Speaker 3: hundred and forty some innings that year, Like he gave 119 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:02,800 Speaker 3: you everything like some of these guys, and it's not 120 00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:06,440 Speaker 3: pole schemes or it's not post skiings fault at all. 121 00:06:06,839 --> 00:06:09,720 Speaker 3: He's getting taken out. They are one hundred percent load 122 00:06:09,760 --> 00:06:12,280 Speaker 3: managing him for whatever reason. I guess the Pirates have 123 00:06:12,360 --> 00:06:15,120 Speaker 3: the answers more than anybody, or maybe it's just the 124 00:06:15,160 --> 00:06:20,000 Speaker 3: whole game, But guys don't pitch long enough to get wins. 125 00:06:20,040 --> 00:06:22,440 Speaker 3: Sometimes you have to pitch into the seventh inning before 126 00:06:22,480 --> 00:06:24,680 Speaker 3: your team scores. Sometimes you have to be able to 127 00:06:24,680 --> 00:06:27,240 Speaker 3: pitch into the sixth th inning. I mean, I think 128 00:06:27,240 --> 00:06:30,400 Speaker 3: Schemes did a good job of pitching as deep as 129 00:06:30,400 --> 00:06:33,840 Speaker 3: he was allowed to pitch, but they just they don't 130 00:06:33,920 --> 00:06:37,360 Speaker 3: let guys get wins. And that's why wins for pitchers 131 00:06:39,080 --> 00:06:42,000 Speaker 3: aren't as important a guy that pitch deep into games. 132 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:45,640 Speaker 3: This year, Max Freed also got hurt deeper into games, 133 00:06:45,680 --> 00:06:49,039 Speaker 3: so I think there's there's some argument on both sides. 134 00:06:49,680 --> 00:06:52,480 Speaker 3: But if you're starting pitcher, we have Max serger on 135 00:06:52,560 --> 00:06:54,960 Speaker 3: here right now, he wants to win in every game, 136 00:06:55,000 --> 00:06:57,800 Speaker 3: and I think it's just a change in mindset. And 137 00:06:57,800 --> 00:07:00,640 Speaker 3: I don't think it's a change in the player's mindset. 138 00:07:00,720 --> 00:07:04,359 Speaker 3: It's a change in the front office mindset or the 139 00:07:04,400 --> 00:07:05,760 Speaker 3: coaching staff's mindset. 140 00:07:07,040 --> 00:07:10,080 Speaker 1: Absolutely mentioned Felix Hernandez. Of course, Jacob de Grom was 141 00:07:10,120 --> 00:07:13,760 Speaker 1: another guy who won two sign awards while finishing barely 142 00:07:13,840 --> 00:07:16,360 Speaker 1: over five hundred. He went ten to nine and eleven 143 00:07:16,440 --> 00:07:19,520 Speaker 1: and eight. His two seasons he won sign awards. A 144 00:07:19,640 --> 00:07:22,000 Speaker 1: Joe you mentioned something early thought was interesting that Yoshinova 145 00:07:22,080 --> 00:07:25,840 Speaker 1: Yamamoto if this vote took place after the World Say, 146 00:07:26,040 --> 00:07:30,440 Speaker 1: if these votes took place with postseason performance in consideration, 147 00:07:31,720 --> 00:07:33,960 Speaker 1: would you start to lean Yamamoto more or would it 148 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:34,880 Speaker 1: still be Schemes for you? 149 00:07:35,720 --> 00:07:38,400 Speaker 2: Uh, Yamamoto has to be under consideration because he was 150 00:07:38,440 --> 00:07:41,520 Speaker 2: the best pitcher in the postseason, I mean especially after 151 00:07:41,520 --> 00:07:45,320 Speaker 2: his epic Game seven performance. After pitching Game six and winning, 152 00:07:45,640 --> 00:07:47,440 Speaker 2: he won three of the four World Series games for 153 00:07:47,560 --> 00:07:49,920 Speaker 2: the Dodgers, So I think he would have to be 154 00:07:49,960 --> 00:07:53,160 Speaker 2: involved in it. But it's a regular season award. 155 00:07:53,160 --> 00:07:53,480 Speaker 3: I get it. 156 00:07:53,520 --> 00:07:57,400 Speaker 2: That's why Yamamoto won the World Series MVP. But in 157 00:07:57,440 --> 00:07:59,640 Speaker 2: the other thing is you can't include postseason because not 158 00:07:59,680 --> 00:08:01,800 Speaker 2: all these guys are in the postseasons. You can't criticize 159 00:08:01,840 --> 00:08:05,040 Speaker 2: Schemes because his team stinks and they also spend the 160 00:08:05,160 --> 00:08:07,760 Speaker 2: money and score any runs. So I think, yeah, if 161 00:08:07,840 --> 00:08:10,440 Speaker 2: postseason was involved, I think Yamamoto would be right there 162 00:08:10,440 --> 00:08:11,240 Speaker 2: with Schemes. 163 00:08:11,960 --> 00:08:16,120 Speaker 3: I think Yamamoto was no I think it's funny because 164 00:08:16,240 --> 00:08:20,640 Speaker 3: they he's probably gonna end up third, and probably a 165 00:08:20,720 --> 00:08:23,560 Speaker 3: distant third. I would assume, you know, I think Christopher 166 00:08:23,600 --> 00:08:27,440 Speaker 3: Sanchez put together freaking amazing year. But the fact that 167 00:08:27,520 --> 00:08:33,440 Speaker 3: Yamamoto would be in consideration to dethrone schemes shows you 168 00:08:33,559 --> 00:08:36,839 Speaker 3: the fact that starting pitcher, starting pitchers matter. 169 00:08:37,040 --> 00:08:37,400 Speaker 2: I get it. 170 00:08:37,480 --> 00:08:41,200 Speaker 3: Last year Dodgers won because of their bullpen. 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Use that code foul and 190 00:09:46,600 --> 00:09:49,440 Speaker 4: fill out the post checkout survey to help support FT. 191 00:09:51,240 --> 00:09:54,640 Speaker 1: So you have Sanchez potentially finishing second, Yamamoto third. But 192 00:09:54,679 --> 00:09:57,880 Speaker 1: you're right what Yoshinoba Yamamoto did. Even during the regular season, 193 00:09:57,880 --> 00:09:59,880 Speaker 1: he was the only Dodger starter to make every Star 194 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:02,160 Speaker 1: this year. We know this rotation was ailing. He was 195 00:10:02,160 --> 00:10:05,439 Speaker 1: the one constant for them moving over into the American League. 196 00:10:05,480 --> 00:10:08,720 Speaker 1: We talked about Trek Scoogle had yet another amazing season. 197 00:10:08,760 --> 00:10:11,040 Speaker 1: He will be the Cion Award winner in the AL 198 00:10:11,160 --> 00:10:13,680 Speaker 1: for the second year in a row. You know, Garrett 199 00:10:13,720 --> 00:10:16,840 Speaker 1: Crochet and Hunter Brown are interesting to me because both 200 00:10:16,880 --> 00:10:19,319 Speaker 1: of these guys, as they were coming up as prospects, 201 00:10:19,640 --> 00:10:22,480 Speaker 1: a lot of evaluators consider them future relievers. I can't 202 00:10:22,480 --> 00:10:24,720 Speaker 1: tell you how many times over my tenure at Baseball 203 00:10:24,760 --> 00:10:27,120 Speaker 1: America I heard these two guys are probably going to 204 00:10:27,160 --> 00:10:29,720 Speaker 1: be relievers, and Crouschet did start as a reliever before 205 00:10:29,760 --> 00:10:32,360 Speaker 1: moving into the rotation with the White Sox. What do 206 00:10:32,400 --> 00:10:34,240 Speaker 1: you think this shows you about, you know, guys and 207 00:10:34,280 --> 00:10:37,480 Speaker 1: their ability to continue to EVOLVEU. I think sometimes we 208 00:10:37,559 --> 00:10:39,760 Speaker 1: see guys as almost finished products when they get to 209 00:10:39,800 --> 00:10:42,160 Speaker 1: the majors, when nothing could be further from the truth. 210 00:10:43,280 --> 00:10:44,920 Speaker 2: And I think it shows the teams don't always know 211 00:10:44,920 --> 00:10:49,160 Speaker 2: what they're doing, that evaluators aren't always right, and I 212 00:10:49,160 --> 00:10:51,120 Speaker 2: think it shows you that you have to give guys 213 00:10:51,200 --> 00:10:53,600 Speaker 2: chances to grow. I mean, Chris Sale came up as 214 00:10:53,640 --> 00:10:56,079 Speaker 2: a reliever. He was a closer. I remember I was there. 215 00:10:56,120 --> 00:10:58,480 Speaker 2: He was our closer for a little while, right because 216 00:10:58,520 --> 00:11:00,600 Speaker 2: everyone's like, oh, he's going to get hurt. He's never 217 00:11:00,600 --> 00:11:02,360 Speaker 2: going to be able to pitch two hundred innings, he's 218 00:11:02,360 --> 00:11:03,520 Speaker 2: never going to be able to do this, and now 219 00:11:03,520 --> 00:11:05,920 Speaker 2: he's on a Cooperstown track. So I think you have 220 00:11:05,960 --> 00:11:08,880 Speaker 2: to let guys develop and figure it out. Crochet got hurt, 221 00:11:08,920 --> 00:11:11,680 Speaker 2: so that cost him some time. But I think in 222 00:11:11,679 --> 00:11:13,240 Speaker 2: his mind he always wanted to be a starter. He 223 00:11:13,240 --> 00:11:15,280 Speaker 2: was a starter coming out of college and he always 224 00:11:15,280 --> 00:11:16,880 Speaker 2: thought he'd be a starter down the road, and the 225 00:11:16,880 --> 00:11:19,160 Speaker 2: White Sox didn't allow him to do that until the 226 00:11:19,160 --> 00:11:21,440 Speaker 2: one year and he proved he could do it. Now 227 00:11:22,040 --> 00:11:23,319 Speaker 2: he didn't get to pitch a lot, but the Red 228 00:11:23,320 --> 00:11:25,439 Speaker 2: Sox were like, you know what, you're our guy. Now 229 00:11:25,559 --> 00:11:27,760 Speaker 2: you're are one. Go out there and do it. And 230 00:11:27,800 --> 00:11:30,079 Speaker 2: for Hunter Brown, Hunter Brown made some adjustments from where 231 00:11:30,120 --> 00:11:32,040 Speaker 2: he was a couple of years ago. He quit trying 232 00:11:32,040 --> 00:11:35,199 Speaker 2: to be Justin Verlander. He became Hunter Brown. He's really good. 233 00:11:36,320 --> 00:11:37,240 Speaker 2: I think these guys. 234 00:11:37,360 --> 00:11:40,640 Speaker 3: I think these guys have the opportunity to start, they 235 00:11:40,720 --> 00:11:43,080 Speaker 3: really get put on the play to the player. We 236 00:11:43,120 --> 00:11:45,040 Speaker 3: had a discussion about a week and a half ago 237 00:11:45,120 --> 00:11:48,160 Speaker 3: about Mason Miller. To me, if Mason Miller says I 238 00:11:48,200 --> 00:11:50,520 Speaker 3: want to be a starter, he's learned to pitch in 239 00:11:50,520 --> 00:11:53,480 Speaker 3: the big leagues, he's learned to see how his body recovers, 240 00:11:54,880 --> 00:11:57,360 Speaker 3: you gotta want to try. You gotta want to try 241 00:11:57,400 --> 00:12:00,719 Speaker 3: because if what's the worst second happen. I remember when 242 00:12:00,720 --> 00:12:03,360 Speaker 3: garyk Corchet said he wanted to be a starter, and 243 00:12:03,360 --> 00:12:05,320 Speaker 3: the White Sox were like, well, we don't care about 244 00:12:05,360 --> 00:12:07,200 Speaker 3: anything else, so we're just going to let him do 245 00:12:07,280 --> 00:12:10,640 Speaker 3: it. It's on him. But the question was, Dude, this guy 246 00:12:10,720 --> 00:12:14,200 Speaker 3: missed two of the last three seasons because of injuries, 247 00:12:14,240 --> 00:12:15,560 Speaker 3: and now all of a sudden, he's going to be 248 00:12:15,559 --> 00:12:19,120 Speaker 3: a starter. He's probably going to blow out even more, 249 00:12:19,200 --> 00:12:23,440 Speaker 3: and he's shown that this guy is a monster like 250 00:12:23,520 --> 00:12:27,160 Speaker 3: his frame says, Hey, you know what, I can deal 251 00:12:27,200 --> 00:12:30,240 Speaker 3: with throwing one hundred miles an hour for seven innings 252 00:12:30,280 --> 00:12:32,920 Speaker 3: and then I get my five days to recover and 253 00:12:32,960 --> 00:12:37,079 Speaker 3: it's worked out perfectly to me. I think it should 254 00:12:37,160 --> 00:12:40,200 Speaker 3: be the opposite. When you get called up, it should 255 00:12:40,240 --> 00:12:43,520 Speaker 3: be he's a starter until he proves he's not a starter. 256 00:12:43,880 --> 00:12:48,079 Speaker 3: Then you go to the bullpen, and then you say, okay, 257 00:12:48,559 --> 00:12:50,840 Speaker 3: are you able to build back up the stuff you've learned? 258 00:12:51,040 --> 00:12:51,120 Speaker 1: Not? 259 00:12:51,760 --> 00:12:54,160 Speaker 3: Well, he's he's a bullpen guy. Like, how can you 260 00:12:54,160 --> 00:12:56,240 Speaker 3: tell somebody's a bullpen guy because he doesn't have a 261 00:12:56,240 --> 00:12:58,600 Speaker 3: second pitch when he's twenty two years old. I think 262 00:12:58,600 --> 00:13:02,600 Speaker 3: evaluators make that assumption too quickly in guy's careers. 263 00:13:02,640 --> 00:13:15,920 Speaker 1: Sometimes it's time now for shake it up guys. We 264 00:13:15,960 --> 00:13:18,160 Speaker 1: talked about the Twins a little with Ken Rosenthal. Dan 265 00:13:18,200 --> 00:13:20,840 Speaker 1: Hayes with The Athletic reported that he wants to build 266 00:13:20,880 --> 00:13:23,920 Speaker 1: on what the Twins already have in place, but if 267 00:13:23,960 --> 00:13:27,600 Speaker 1: the Twins continue to tear things down Byron Buxton might 268 00:13:27,640 --> 00:13:30,520 Speaker 1: be open to waving his no trade clause. And this 269 00:13:30,559 --> 00:13:33,520 Speaker 1: comes after Buxton said from the All Star Game really 270 00:13:33,520 --> 00:13:35,440 Speaker 1: through the end of the regular season, as the Twins 271 00:13:35,440 --> 00:13:37,800 Speaker 1: were tearing it all down, he told anyone who would 272 00:13:37,800 --> 00:13:40,160 Speaker 1: listen that he was a Twins player for life and 273 00:13:40,200 --> 00:13:42,400 Speaker 1: would not be willing to wave his no trade clause. 274 00:13:43,080 --> 00:13:46,320 Speaker 1: Now might seem like things have changed. Eric, I'm going 275 00:13:46,360 --> 00:13:47,600 Speaker 1: to start with you, just what do you make of 276 00:13:47,640 --> 00:13:49,520 Speaker 1: this and kind of the change in tone. 277 00:13:49,520 --> 00:13:53,840 Speaker 3: Potentially obviously you know we're the last to find out, 278 00:13:54,320 --> 00:13:57,280 Speaker 3: but the fact that he came out at the All 279 00:13:57,280 --> 00:14:01,280 Speaker 3: Star Game and said this, and then the half of 280 00:14:01,280 --> 00:14:04,439 Speaker 3: his team got traded, almost half of his team got traded. 281 00:14:05,400 --> 00:14:08,240 Speaker 3: It's either one they went to him before that, and 282 00:14:08,280 --> 00:14:10,880 Speaker 3: so when the question was asked of him, he was like, yeah, 283 00:14:10,920 --> 00:14:13,200 Speaker 3: I'm ready. I'm ready for this. Somebody asked me this 284 00:14:13,280 --> 00:14:17,520 Speaker 3: if I'm gonna get traded, and he says no, because 285 00:14:17,559 --> 00:14:19,400 Speaker 3: the team's already asked and I don't want to be traded. 286 00:14:19,680 --> 00:14:22,520 Speaker 3: Or he had no idea that all these dudes were 287 00:14:22,520 --> 00:14:25,560 Speaker 3: getting traded and that the team was hemorrhaging cash and 288 00:14:25,600 --> 00:14:28,480 Speaker 3: they needed to trade all these dudes, and so maybe 289 00:14:28,520 --> 00:14:29,400 Speaker 3: he's rethinking it. 290 00:14:29,920 --> 00:14:31,000 Speaker 2: But I know there's a lot of. 291 00:14:30,960 --> 00:14:36,400 Speaker 3: Teams that would be like, hmm, potential MVP, speedy center 292 00:14:36,640 --> 00:14:41,880 Speaker 3: field on a nice, easy, team friendly contract. 293 00:14:42,760 --> 00:14:44,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll trade for that guy. 294 00:14:45,640 --> 00:14:47,600 Speaker 1: Yeah. I think it'd be really interesting to see if 295 00:14:47,640 --> 00:14:50,440 Speaker 1: the Twins do decide to trade Pablo Lopez and Joe 296 00:14:50,520 --> 00:14:52,920 Speaker 1: Ryan this all season, just because it feels like that 297 00:14:52,960 --> 00:14:55,080 Speaker 1: would be the straw that breaks the camel's back. They 298 00:14:55,080 --> 00:14:57,640 Speaker 1: traded ten guys off their big league roster at the 299 00:14:57,640 --> 00:15:00,560 Speaker 1: trade doutline. You understand for Byron Bucks and looking around 300 00:15:00,640 --> 00:15:03,480 Speaker 1: and saying, hey, who's around me? Now? He does have 301 00:15:03,560 --> 00:15:05,960 Speaker 1: three years and forty five million dollars remaining on his 302 00:15:06,000 --> 00:15:09,200 Speaker 1: current deal, and once again, he does have no trade 303 00:15:09,240 --> 00:15:12,280 Speaker 1: protection through next season. He can block trades to five 304 00:15:12,320 --> 00:15:15,920 Speaker 1: clubs in twenty seven, twenty eight, AJ, what for you 305 00:15:15,960 --> 00:15:18,000 Speaker 1: would be the line in which he say, yeah, screw it, 306 00:15:18,040 --> 00:15:19,680 Speaker 1: I'm waving my no trade clause. 307 00:15:20,760 --> 00:15:22,520 Speaker 2: It would have already happened. It would have done the 308 00:15:22,560 --> 00:15:25,000 Speaker 2: Griffin Jack. I would have gone Griffin Jack style like 309 00:15:25,080 --> 00:15:27,360 Speaker 2: he did. Remember, they started trading dudes and he goes 310 00:15:27,360 --> 00:15:28,680 Speaker 2: in there and goes, can you guys throw me in 311 00:15:28,720 --> 00:15:31,240 Speaker 2: there too, please? Yeah, it was cool when he came 312 00:15:31,280 --> 00:15:33,240 Speaker 2: out and said this, And I get he's comfortable there, 313 00:15:34,120 --> 00:15:36,240 Speaker 2: but they're not on a winning path right now anytime 314 00:15:36,240 --> 00:15:38,120 Speaker 2: in the near future. So yeah, it's great. He wants 315 00:15:38,120 --> 00:15:39,880 Speaker 2: to stay there his entire career. And yes, they brought 316 00:15:39,920 --> 00:15:42,080 Speaker 2: him up, and yes they signed up this deal. What'd 317 00:15:42,120 --> 00:15:45,840 Speaker 2: you say it was three years, forty five million tu Yes, 318 00:15:45,880 --> 00:15:50,160 Speaker 2: three forty five. I mean that's easy, easy, easy, tradable 319 00:15:50,160 --> 00:15:51,960 Speaker 2: for the numbers this guy can put up when he's healthy. 320 00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:55,400 Speaker 2: So I don't. I don't he'll here. Here's the thing. Also, 321 00:15:55,480 --> 00:15:57,400 Speaker 2: the owners can go to Bryan Bucks and say, listen, 322 00:15:57,480 --> 00:15:59,480 Speaker 2: we really appreciate you and all, but like we want 323 00:15:59,480 --> 00:16:03,360 Speaker 2: to trade you. Can you help us out here? Maybe 324 00:16:03,360 --> 00:16:05,480 Speaker 2: he will, maybe he won't, but I know he you know, 325 00:16:05,520 --> 00:16:08,440 Speaker 2: he loved he. Tory Hunter was a guy that you know, 326 00:16:08,480 --> 00:16:10,520 Speaker 2: started at the Twins, ended with the Twins. Bucks and 327 00:16:10,600 --> 00:16:13,320 Speaker 2: him are super tight. The Troy Hawkins is back there, 328 00:16:13,600 --> 00:16:15,800 Speaker 2: another guy that he was tight with. So do I 329 00:16:16,000 --> 00:16:19,160 Speaker 2: think he'll stay there? No? Do I think he might 330 00:16:19,360 --> 00:16:22,200 Speaker 2: still want to stay there for his legacy yes, but 331 00:16:22,320 --> 00:16:26,080 Speaker 2: if I was in a situation he gone, I'm sorry, 332 00:16:26,120 --> 00:16:28,840 Speaker 2: I'm gone, I'm moving. I'm trying to find a place 333 00:16:28,880 --> 00:16:29,600 Speaker 2: i can go win a ring. 334 00:16:30,480 --> 00:16:33,200 Speaker 3: And this is this is Kyle. This is also somebody 335 00:16:33,240 --> 00:16:37,520 Speaker 3: that's not just chasing rings like AJ was loyal. AJ's 336 00:16:37,560 --> 00:16:40,800 Speaker 3: come on here and said how different times he signed 337 00:16:40,840 --> 00:16:43,080 Speaker 3: back for less to stay in Chicago. So this is 338 00:16:43,120 --> 00:16:48,360 Speaker 3: somebody who understands legacy with a team, understands success with 339 00:16:48,440 --> 00:16:53,120 Speaker 3: the team, understands taking less. And it comes to a 340 00:16:53,160 --> 00:16:55,520 Speaker 3: point like it comes to a head at some point. 341 00:16:55,800 --> 00:16:59,000 Speaker 3: Byron Buxon has constantly been told or heard in the 342 00:16:59,080 --> 00:17:03,720 Speaker 3: media it can't stay healthy, can't stay healthy. Now he 343 00:17:03,840 --> 00:17:08,639 Speaker 3: stays healthy for a couple of seasons, and this team 344 00:17:08,680 --> 00:17:13,160 Speaker 3: then like kind of backpedals. They collapsed last year. This 345 00:17:13,240 --> 00:17:16,840 Speaker 3: season they just never got it going, never really, you know, 346 00:17:16,920 --> 00:17:18,840 Speaker 3: they had a couple of hot stretches, but they were 347 00:17:18,960 --> 00:17:22,919 Speaker 3: just poor. And then ownership says, I'm out, Like you 348 00:17:22,960 --> 00:17:28,080 Speaker 3: can change your tone, It's okay, you can change your mind. 349 00:17:27,640 --> 00:17:30,560 Speaker 1: From the perspective of other teams and the appeal of 350 00:17:30,600 --> 00:17:33,239 Speaker 1: acquiring a Byron Buckston. You guys mentioned health, and it's 351 00:17:33,280 --> 00:17:36,440 Speaker 1: interesting him staying healthy the last two years. It's all relative. 352 00:17:36,520 --> 00:17:38,800 Speaker 1: So last season, Byron Buckston played one hundred and twenty 353 00:17:38,800 --> 00:17:40,840 Speaker 1: six games. In twenty twenty four he played one hundred 354 00:17:40,840 --> 00:17:43,560 Speaker 1: and two, So he's missed forty to sixty games each 355 00:17:43,720 --> 00:17:46,719 Speaker 1: last two years. That's still the most games he had 356 00:17:46,760 --> 00:17:49,960 Speaker 1: played since twenty seventeen. So we know that when you 357 00:17:50,000 --> 00:17:53,560 Speaker 1: acquire Byron Buxton, you're looking at a tremendously talented player 358 00:17:53,680 --> 00:17:55,680 Speaker 1: who can impact the game in all sorts of ways 359 00:17:55,720 --> 00:17:58,800 Speaker 1: at the plate, on the bays, pass on defense. But 360 00:17:58,920 --> 00:18:03,240 Speaker 1: you also know realist you're hoping for one hundred to 361 00:18:03,280 --> 00:18:06,760 Speaker 1: one hundred and twenty games. From your guys' perspective, how 362 00:18:06,800 --> 00:18:10,800 Speaker 1: aggressive should teams be and potentially pursuing him given this 363 00:18:10,920 --> 00:18:11,920 Speaker 1: latest news. 364 00:18:12,720 --> 00:18:14,200 Speaker 2: I think teams will go for it. I think teams 365 00:18:14,240 --> 00:18:15,840 Speaker 2: will be all over it. I don't think that there's 366 00:18:15,880 --> 00:18:17,919 Speaker 2: any any doubt about it. I think if he can 367 00:18:17,920 --> 00:18:19,879 Speaker 2: get one hundred and twenty games out of him, and 368 00:18:19,920 --> 00:18:22,640 Speaker 2: he hits you thirty to forty homers and plays good 369 00:18:22,680 --> 00:18:24,760 Speaker 2: center field when he's out there, and steals his bases 370 00:18:25,080 --> 00:18:30,840 Speaker 2: for fifteen million, huh, teams will fall over themselves for this, right. 371 00:18:30,880 --> 00:18:33,240 Speaker 2: I mean, I still go back to Mike Trout, and 372 00:18:33,480 --> 00:18:35,240 Speaker 2: we all love Mike Trout, and we think Mike Trout 373 00:18:35,680 --> 00:18:37,639 Speaker 2: is one of the best players of all time. But 374 00:18:37,720 --> 00:18:40,440 Speaker 2: Mike Trout hasn't been to the playoffs in forever. He's 375 00:18:40,440 --> 00:18:42,879 Speaker 2: never won a playoff game, and he's kind of just 376 00:18:42,960 --> 00:18:46,600 Speaker 2: become faded to the wayside because he's his whole career 377 00:18:46,640 --> 00:18:48,960 Speaker 2: basically has been wasted in Anaheim. I don't want to 378 00:18:48,960 --> 00:18:50,440 Speaker 2: see that happen to Byron bucks and I want to 379 00:18:50,440 --> 00:18:52,119 Speaker 2: see him get an opportunity to win a ring. 380 00:18:53,600 --> 00:18:56,080 Speaker 3: Right, Well, here's your comp for you, then, Kyle, when 381 00:18:56,080 --> 00:18:59,080 Speaker 3: you ask about like would they go after him? Tyler 382 00:18:59,080 --> 00:19:03,040 Speaker 3: O'Neal got three years, forty nine million last offseason. If 383 00:19:03,040 --> 00:19:06,200 Speaker 3: you can get Byron Buxton, who maybe you know, they 384 00:19:06,200 --> 00:19:09,800 Speaker 3: both have some injury issues. Byron Buckston's injury issues aren't 385 00:19:09,840 --> 00:19:13,480 Speaker 3: quite the same as Tyler o'neils, but the talent is 386 00:19:14,160 --> 00:19:17,600 Speaker 3: through the roof. I mean, Tyler o'neils had some cool 387 00:19:17,640 --> 00:19:19,720 Speaker 3: stretches in his career where he's hit some dingers and 388 00:19:19,720 --> 00:19:22,320 Speaker 3: he's played some center field. But if you can get 389 00:19:22,320 --> 00:19:25,560 Speaker 3: Byron Buxton for five million less four million less than 390 00:19:25,600 --> 00:19:28,919 Speaker 3: what the Orioles had to pay Tyler O'Neil in free agency. Yes, 391 00:19:29,160 --> 00:19:32,040 Speaker 3: this would be a massive haul for whatever team is 392 00:19:32,080 --> 00:19:33,520 Speaker 3: looking for a center fielder. 393 00:19:35,200 --> 00:19:38,000 Speaker 1: For the record, I completely agree, and I'll be curious 394 00:19:38,040 --> 00:19:40,439 Speaker 1: to see also if the teams that pursue him want 395 00:19:40,520 --> 00:19:43,040 Speaker 1: to keep him in center or to keep him healthy, 396 00:19:43,200 --> 00:19:45,880 Speaker 1: potentially move him to a corner guys moving on to 397 00:19:45,920 --> 00:19:48,960 Speaker 1: another team. That was a big disappointment where the bottom 398 00:19:49,000 --> 00:19:52,280 Speaker 1: completely fell out. In twenty twenty five, the Atlanta Braves 399 00:19:52,320 --> 00:19:54,920 Speaker 1: Alexanthopolis has come out and said they need to add 400 00:19:54,960 --> 00:19:58,040 Speaker 1: quote unquote a lot of relievers, but they're going to 401 00:19:58,080 --> 00:20:01,639 Speaker 1: prioritize shortstop and a starting pitcher. We saw shortstop was 402 00:20:01,640 --> 00:20:03,800 Speaker 1: a mess for them last year. They started with Nick Allen, 403 00:20:03,880 --> 00:20:06,400 Speaker 1: then they acquired hass On Kim. They couldn't really find 404 00:20:06,400 --> 00:20:08,880 Speaker 1: a long term solution there. His quote was, we're gonna 405 00:20:08,880 --> 00:20:11,720 Speaker 1: focus on those spots. We'll see where those lead us, 406 00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:14,720 Speaker 1: what the acquisition costs are and all that. Then will 407 00:20:14,760 --> 00:20:17,199 Speaker 1: turn our attention to the bullpen. In terms of the 408 00:20:17,200 --> 00:20:21,800 Speaker 1: Braves approach this offseason, starters, shortstop, relief pitching. That the 409 00:20:21,920 --> 00:20:23,560 Speaker 1: order you think they should go and AJ, I'll start 410 00:20:23,600 --> 00:20:23,920 Speaker 1: with you. 411 00:20:24,480 --> 00:20:27,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, you need well, first of all, you need a shortstop. Okay, 412 00:20:27,520 --> 00:20:29,439 Speaker 2: you can't play, you can't. Every good team has a 413 00:20:29,480 --> 00:20:32,199 Speaker 2: really good shortstop. So I mean the Dodgers, rookie bets, 414 00:20:32,800 --> 00:20:34,920 Speaker 2: the Blue Jays, even though Bobashak got hurt, they still 415 00:20:34,920 --> 00:20:37,119 Speaker 2: had Andre sim Innes at least defensively that was pretty 416 00:20:37,119 --> 00:20:38,600 Speaker 2: solid and got some huge hits for him. So you 417 00:20:38,640 --> 00:20:41,399 Speaker 2: need a good shortstop. That should be priority number one. 418 00:20:41,520 --> 00:20:43,680 Speaker 2: They have say, oh, they have Strider, they have Schollenbach, 419 00:20:43,720 --> 00:20:45,840 Speaker 2: they have some mis Sharver. All these guys are gonna 420 00:20:45,840 --> 00:20:48,439 Speaker 2: come back at some point, hopefully this year for him, 421 00:20:48,480 --> 00:20:51,040 Speaker 2: and pitch better than they did last year. I think 422 00:20:51,040 --> 00:20:52,760 Speaker 2: their starters are in a good spot. To me, they 423 00:20:52,760 --> 00:20:56,320 Speaker 2: need relievers and they priority number one has got to 424 00:20:56,320 --> 00:20:58,840 Speaker 2: be shortstop. And then you find some relievers and then 425 00:20:58,920 --> 00:21:00,760 Speaker 2: hope that some of these other guys and you use 426 00:21:00,800 --> 00:21:03,000 Speaker 2: a Sean Murphy if you have to to trade to 427 00:21:03,040 --> 00:21:05,800 Speaker 2: make some moves to get some certain people. But to me, 428 00:21:05,920 --> 00:21:09,640 Speaker 2: shortstop's one, relief two and starters are three. It's hard 429 00:21:09,680 --> 00:21:12,359 Speaker 2: to find a short stop to replace Dansby Swonson. Dancy 430 00:21:12,359 --> 00:21:15,000 Speaker 2: Swanson won a Gold Glove. He won a World Series 431 00:21:15,040 --> 00:21:17,439 Speaker 2: in twenty one then he was an All Star in 432 00:21:17,520 --> 00:21:20,240 Speaker 2: twenty two, won a Gold Glove, was an MVY I 433 00:21:20,240 --> 00:21:22,960 Speaker 2: think top fifteen in an MVP, so it's hard to 434 00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:25,800 Speaker 2: replace that. But they have done a poor job of 435 00:21:25,840 --> 00:21:29,920 Speaker 2: it since twenty two when Dansby left because Orlando Garcia 436 00:21:30,119 --> 00:21:33,280 Speaker 2: gave them the defense and that year he made the 437 00:21:33,320 --> 00:21:35,440 Speaker 2: All Star team, Like it was like, wow, we got 438 00:21:35,480 --> 00:21:39,560 Speaker 2: this guy for you know, they paid him nothing, and 439 00:21:39,600 --> 00:21:43,080 Speaker 2: now it's been tough. I would expect they're going to 440 00:21:43,119 --> 00:21:47,480 Speaker 2: be hard in on the Bobashek because he plays shortstop 441 00:21:47,560 --> 00:21:49,720 Speaker 2: in the big leagues. But I agree with AJ, like 442 00:21:50,440 --> 00:21:52,600 Speaker 2: if they're saying they're gonna go after starters, and Alex 443 00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:56,080 Speaker 2: Anthopos is probably one of the more upfront, open, honest 444 00:21:56,160 --> 00:21:58,159 Speaker 2: gms that we see out there that doesn't have as 445 00:21:58,240 --> 00:22:01,560 Speaker 2: much GM speak as everybody else, maybe they're gonna go 446 00:22:01,680 --> 00:22:04,800 Speaker 2: like a like a Dodger's from last year, in the 447 00:22:04,840 --> 00:22:07,800 Speaker 2: sense that the Dodgers had nine or ten I forget 448 00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:11,960 Speaker 2: legit starters, knowing what happened to the Braves is past 449 00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:18,119 Speaker 2: year where six of their premium primary starters spent significant 450 00:22:18,160 --> 00:22:21,000 Speaker 2: time on IL. Maybe they go out and they say, okay, 451 00:22:21,040 --> 00:22:24,200 Speaker 2: we're gonna sign three starting pitchers because of the fact 452 00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:27,320 Speaker 2: that we can option some of our young pitchers down 453 00:22:27,320 --> 00:22:30,679 Speaker 2: and just have a just have a massive haul of 454 00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:33,880 Speaker 2: starting pitchers. But I doubt they're gonna do that because 455 00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:36,080 Speaker 2: they don't have quite they don't have the money that 456 00:22:36,080 --> 00:22:39,879 Speaker 2: that the Dodgers do to spend on one spot. So 457 00:22:39,920 --> 00:22:41,760 Speaker 2: I think they're gonna go after those relievers and they're 458 00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:44,960 Speaker 2: just gonna bring in tons of relievers and see what happens. 459 00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:47,080 Speaker 3: The Red Sox did it. The Red Sox brought in 460 00:22:47,119 --> 00:22:50,680 Speaker 3: a ton of relievers in spring training and their bullpen 461 00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:54,320 Speaker 3: was I think they had the best bullpen era in baseball. 462 00:22:54,359 --> 00:22:56,040 Speaker 3: If not, it was the best bullpenny ra in the 463 00:22:56,080 --> 00:23:00,119 Speaker 3: second half. So there's different ways to do this, yes, 464 00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:02,520 Speaker 3: but shortstop is the key. 465 00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:06,399 Speaker 1: So guys, some interesting news about the upcoming LA twenty 466 00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:11,520 Speaker 1: twenty eight Olympics. Shoho Tani potentially looking at coming up 467 00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:15,560 Speaker 1: before the opening ceremony, and overall Major League Baseball is 468 00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:19,920 Speaker 1: looking at potentially scheduling some adjustments for players to participate 469 00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:22,439 Speaker 1: in the Olympics. Eric, you were part of the twenty 470 00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:26,040 Speaker 1: twenty Olympic qualifying team. Ultimately, those Olympics got pushed back, 471 00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:28,960 Speaker 1: what are your thoughts on active major leaguers getting a 472 00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:30,760 Speaker 1: chance to actually participate in the Olympics. 473 00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:35,640 Speaker 3: Do it? Do it? I'm a huge Olympic fan. Major 474 00:23:35,720 --> 00:23:37,800 Speaker 3: League Baseball said, you know what, we're going to own 475 00:23:37,840 --> 00:23:42,040 Speaker 3: the WBC. It's cash for us. They kind of said 476 00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:44,840 Speaker 3: to the Olympics, which I get it. You know, you 477 00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:47,080 Speaker 3: build a business, you're not going to be like, hey, 478 00:23:47,119 --> 00:23:49,760 Speaker 3: everyone else can do the other business. I'm not saying 479 00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:53,159 Speaker 3: it has to be a one or the other. It 480 00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:56,600 Speaker 3: can be a and or it can be both. So 481 00:23:57,440 --> 00:24:01,560 Speaker 3: I think I think the Olympics is every four years 482 00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:04,159 Speaker 3: for summer, every four years for winter, and it's something 483 00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:06,919 Speaker 3: that it doesn't really matter what sport is on. I 484 00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:10,159 Speaker 3: have it. I'm glued to the TV. I love watching 485 00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:12,280 Speaker 3: all Olympics stuff. So for baseball to be in it, 486 00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:15,240 Speaker 3: to me, I think it's a travesty that it's not 487 00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:20,760 Speaker 3: the best players in the world. Because Japan they have 488 00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:24,800 Speaker 3: all their best players that Team Samurai. They practice together 489 00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:28,679 Speaker 3: in the offseason. They are ready to go, and I 490 00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:31,720 Speaker 3: think that's what you're looking for for all the teams. 491 00:24:31,840 --> 00:24:33,959 Speaker 3: So I want to see the best big layers. It's 492 00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:37,040 Speaker 3: an opportunity to see everybody rather than you know, maybe 493 00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:38,800 Speaker 3: just an All Star game during that period. 494 00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:42,119 Speaker 1: Yeah, aj, this would require. 495 00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:45,560 Speaker 2: A jumping to schedule. Yes, chuck of the schedule. But 496 00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:49,639 Speaker 2: also what is MLBO on the krut said the WBC 497 00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:53,320 Speaker 2: If they let major leaguers go play in the Olympics, 498 00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:58,239 Speaker 2: will that take away from the WBC something that's going 499 00:24:58,320 --> 00:25:01,240 Speaker 2: to have to be negotiated, right, But absolutely you throw 500 00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:04,440 Speaker 2: on your USA thing and you go, hey, we're gonna 501 00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:07,320 Speaker 2: We're gonna go try and win a gold medal. I'm 502 00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:08,760 Speaker 2: in and we need to figure out a way to 503 00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:11,560 Speaker 2: make this happen because we saw what happened with hockey 504 00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:14,679 Speaker 2: and the four Nations thing for the All Star break. 505 00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:17,400 Speaker 2: You got to take a chunk out of the season 506 00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:19,760 Speaker 2: and let the big leaguers go play to help, as 507 00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:23,280 Speaker 2: MLB says all the time, grow the game. What better 508 00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:25,399 Speaker 2: way to grow the game than having it in the Olympics, 509 00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:28,080 Speaker 2: explain with your best players in the world. 510 00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:30,639 Speaker 1: So we talk about the pressure of New York and 511 00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:33,560 Speaker 1: it extends beyond the players. It extends well into the 512 00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:37,240 Speaker 1: front office. We saw that the Yankees have reportedly fired 513 00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:40,960 Speaker 1: longtime international sky and director Donnie Rowland. Three major league 514 00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:43,399 Speaker 1: sources confirmed to The Athletic that was done this offseason. 515 00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:46,639 Speaker 1: There were some initial hits on the international market you 516 00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:50,800 Speaker 1: look at Gary Sanchez, Luis Savarina, etc. But in recent history, 517 00:25:51,040 --> 00:25:53,040 Speaker 1: the Yankees have had a lot of big dollar misses 518 00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:55,879 Speaker 1: in international signings. Eric, I'll start with you, because you 519 00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:58,439 Speaker 1: know this franchise so so so well, just what do 520 00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:00,359 Speaker 1: you make the news that Donnie Roland has been fired 521 00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:03,000 Speaker 1: and ultimately the Yankees are holding a major front office 522 00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:06,960 Speaker 1: leader accountable for their signing failures. I think it's tough. 523 00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:08,720 Speaker 3: I don't think we know I don't think we know 524 00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:13,200 Speaker 3: enough about international signing and what it takes for these guys. 525 00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:16,280 Speaker 3: But the fact that they've had success, and that's what 526 00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:19,560 Speaker 3: scouts really kind of hang their hats on. Oh well 527 00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:22,479 Speaker 3: he drafted this person. Oh he helped facilitate the signing 528 00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:26,919 Speaker 3: for this person. It is a it's a cavalcade of 529 00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:30,800 Speaker 3: people that are helping with these signings. So for him 530 00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:33,480 Speaker 3: to take this, you know what, there might be trying 531 00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:35,880 Speaker 3: to go in a different direction. Sixty two years old, 532 00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:39,480 Speaker 3: he's had a great career, probably would like to continue, 533 00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:42,680 Speaker 3: but you know what, it's a team effort. So maybe 534 00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:45,480 Speaker 3: he's taking the brun of this as the face of 535 00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:49,680 Speaker 3: the scouting Department International Scouting Department. But you know, is 536 00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:53,760 Speaker 3: it on him technically, No, just like when somebody does 537 00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:56,240 Speaker 3: pan out, when you do sign at Gary Sanchez for 538 00:26:56,560 --> 00:27:03,000 Speaker 3: however many million they signed him, like, it's not all success. 539 00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:03,440 Speaker 1: For that person either. 540 00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:12,359 Speaker 2: Who signed that guy? Yeah, Donny Rowland, it lose your job. 541 00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:14,800 Speaker 2: That's what happens if you don't I mean, if I'm 542 00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:17,400 Speaker 2: a player and I don't hit, guess what I get released. 543 00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:20,720 Speaker 2: It sucks, But it happens at every job. You don't perform, 544 00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:23,679 Speaker 2: you get fired. Yeah. 545 00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:25,880 Speaker 1: And what's tough with Donnie Rowland too? You talk about that. 546 00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:27,879 Speaker 1: It's all a lot of what have you done for 547 00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:29,680 Speaker 1: me lately? Because you go back. He is the Angel 548 00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:31,960 Speaker 1: skying director for a number of years. He was responsible 549 00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:33,880 Speaker 1: for drafting John Lackie and a lot of guys who 550 00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:36,760 Speaker 1: helped the Angels become a World Series championship team and 551 00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:39,280 Speaker 1: have that run through the two thousands. Again, he's been 552 00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:41,440 Speaker 1: in the game for twenty three years. He spent last 553 00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:44,000 Speaker 1: fifteen years with the Yankees. I suld say the last 554 00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:47,000 Speaker 1: twenty three years overall in the Yankees organization last fifteen 555 00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:49,879 Speaker 1: as their international director. So there's been a lot of successes, 556 00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:52,399 Speaker 1: but again it's very much what have you done for 557 00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:53,400 Speaker 1: me lately? Kind of game. 558 00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:57,679 Speaker 4: This episode of FT is brought to you by Square. 559 00:27:57,800 --> 00:28:00,600 Speaker 4: Your favorite neighborhood spots run on Square. Give me an 560 00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:03,480 Speaker 4: example in pennsylvaniacrats. 561 00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:05,560 Speaker 3: Right down the street from my house, the tap House. 562 00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:08,040 Speaker 3: Not only is it an awesome place to hang out, 563 00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:11,639 Speaker 3: get your beers, get your drinks, whatever it is. 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And if you said, okay, 582 00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:13,200 Speaker 3: he's gonna lead the league and strikeout, he's gonna he's 583 00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:16,320 Speaker 3: gonna lead the league in innings, and then say at 584 00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:18,280 Speaker 3: the end of the year he's still had no shadow 585 00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:22,360 Speaker 3: winning it, would you have believed him aj Because Garret 586 00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:25,720 Speaker 3: Crochet started at plus five hundred ended at plus nine. 587 00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:31,600 Speaker 2: Hundred because he has no shadow winning. Uh No, but 588 00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:33,880 Speaker 2: I also do. He's in the league with Trek Scouble 589 00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:37,520 Speaker 2: and I knew that he was gonna have a hard time, 590 00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:42,200 Speaker 2: So no, I mean he listened. It. It's when you 591 00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:43,880 Speaker 2: have a guy that is as good as a guy 592 00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:46,520 Speaker 2: like Trek Scooble, okay, and he can pitch and pitch 593 00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:48,560 Speaker 2: and pitch and pitch, and he does his numbers and 594 00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:50,320 Speaker 2: he has his team and everyone looks at him and 595 00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:53,840 Speaker 2: he's won the award before you all. You have to 596 00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:55,840 Speaker 2: have a historic year to jump him again. Kind of 597 00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:57,560 Speaker 2: like what we're gonna talk about with the MVP But 598 00:29:58,280 --> 00:30:00,520 Speaker 2: to me, Garret Crochet had an unbelievable year. He just 599 00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:02,360 Speaker 2: had it in the wrong league, in the wrong year 600 00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:05,280 Speaker 2: with Trek's Schoobel. Trek Scooble misses a start here or there, 601 00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:08,280 Speaker 2: doesn't pitch grade all the time. Grek Crouchet is an 602 00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:10,800 Speaker 2: easy choice. But this year derek'school just better. 603 00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:12,560 Speaker 3: It sucks. 604 00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:16,920 Speaker 1: Yeah again, I mean we've talked about this. When Trek 605 00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:20,240 Speaker 1: Scooball has an era you know by you know, two 606 00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:22,200 Speaker 1: point two one, no one else is within you know, 607 00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:24,640 Speaker 1: twenty points of him. It just is what it is. 608 00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:26,800 Speaker 1: But it did a point that you know, Garrett Crochet, 609 00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:28,600 Speaker 1: all the questions we had coming into the year, can 610 00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:31,320 Speaker 1: he hold up under a starter's workload? He answered them. 611 00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:32,760 Speaker 1: So I do think it's a testament to him that 612 00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:35,360 Speaker 1: his odds went the way they did. And realistically he 613 00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:36,840 Speaker 1: is likely going to be the runner up. 614 00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:38,960 Speaker 3: Yep. 615 00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:44,520 Speaker 2: You know what that gets you, Kyle, Nothing? 616 00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:46,640 Speaker 3: Nothing, Actually, it might get him some bonuses if he 617 00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:48,760 Speaker 3: stopped three inside young there might be a little little 618 00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:50,040 Speaker 3: bonus in his contract there. 619 00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:52,080 Speaker 2: Yeah. But at the end of the day, I mean, 620 00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:54,440 Speaker 2: it's like it's like when you win the It's like 621 00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:56,120 Speaker 2: when you win the American League and you don't win 622 00:30:56,120 --> 00:30:58,000 Speaker 2: the World Series, Like, you get a second place ring, 623 00:30:58,080 --> 00:31:00,800 Speaker 2: cool sweet ring that you're never gonna wear. 624 00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:05,080 Speaker 1: You don't like the Ale Championship penance. 625 00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:08,520 Speaker 2: They're awesome, I mean they're awesome. I mean you don't 626 00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:11,520 Speaker 2: like it, but you remember them, but you also, I 627 00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:15,080 Speaker 2: mean you just it's one of those like, eh, do 628 00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:16,920 Speaker 2: I ever wear a second place ring? 629 00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:18,200 Speaker 3: Like? No, I don't know. 630 00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:21,960 Speaker 1: I've always wonder about that. How decked out are the 631 00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:24,800 Speaker 1: Pennant rings versus the World Series rings? Like, what's the 632 00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:25,600 Speaker 1: comparison here? 633 00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:27,640 Speaker 3: They're nice? 634 00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:32,160 Speaker 2: I don't know. I never lost the World Series, Kyle, 635 00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:35,280 Speaker 2: that is a good point. 636 00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:38,800 Speaker 4: Any sport parlay boost tokens score eight bigger payout. 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He's only the second manager in NL history 646 00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:21,080 Speaker 1: to win it back to back years, joining a great 647 00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:23,240 Speaker 1: like Bobby Cox. Eric, I want to start with you. 648 00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:26,640 Speaker 1: Pat Murphy's had a really interesting career path. Famous college 649 00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:30,480 Speaker 1: coach Notre Dame at Arizona State, leaves kind of ignominiously 650 00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:32,680 Speaker 1: ends up having to work his way back up the 651 00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:35,280 Speaker 1: minor league ladder from the lowest levels of the Padters system, 652 00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:37,600 Speaker 1: gets a bench coach job, an internship, interim job with 653 00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:40,120 Speaker 1: the Padres, and here he is back to back Manager 654 00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:42,200 Speaker 1: of the Year, something only Bobby Cox has ever done 655 00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:42,920 Speaker 1: the National League. 656 00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:46,040 Speaker 3: He'll tell you, and he said it on the show. 657 00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:51,680 Speaker 3: All those steps got him to this point. Had he 658 00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:56,840 Speaker 3: gone Tony Batello straight from college to the big leagues, 659 00:32:57,160 --> 00:33:00,880 Speaker 3: he would have sucked, because he said, the person he 660 00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:03,640 Speaker 3: was as a college coach, he was going through things 661 00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:05,959 Speaker 3: in his life and decisions that he would make with 662 00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:10,560 Speaker 3: players and like. But what never changed about Murph is 663 00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:14,600 Speaker 3: his relationships. It's how he approaches them now. And I 664 00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:18,320 Speaker 3: think it goes to show, like you win Manager of 665 00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:22,680 Speaker 3: the Year his words, not mine. It's a team that 666 00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:26,680 Speaker 3: was not expected to do anything and exceeded those expectations. 667 00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:29,640 Speaker 3: I think that's what happens when you put somebody in 668 00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:32,760 Speaker 3: charge that gets the most out of players, because people 669 00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:36,280 Speaker 3: don't just players don't just become MVPs. They don't just 670 00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:40,400 Speaker 3: become like these amazing players like the players were already there. 671 00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:42,080 Speaker 3: How do you get the most out of them? How 672 00:33:42,120 --> 00:33:43,840 Speaker 3: do you get you know, a rookie of the Year 673 00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:46,080 Speaker 3: candidate in Durbin, How do you get the most out 674 00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:50,560 Speaker 3: of Joey Ortiz who didn't have the best of seasons, 675 00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:53,080 Speaker 3: but you know what, they slotted him in at a 676 00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:56,000 Speaker 3: premier position in shortstop. How do you get the most 677 00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:59,760 Speaker 3: out of Bryce terrang In, you know later in the 678 00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:02,080 Speaker 3: sea and when he had just a ridiculous I think 679 00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:08,000 Speaker 3: it was August. It's by that constant relationship, constantly building 680 00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:11,320 Speaker 3: these guys up, being honest with them and everything throughout 681 00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:12,360 Speaker 3: throughout the season. 682 00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:15,080 Speaker 1: And Pat does that all right. AJ. So we talked 683 00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:17,520 Speaker 1: about the Nationally Manager of the Year award, Manager of 684 00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:20,880 Speaker 1: the Year award winner and Pat Murphy steven vote fellow 685 00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:23,600 Speaker 1: catcher one American League Manager of the Year. It's what 686 00:34:23,640 --> 00:34:25,560 Speaker 1: were your thoughts on the job vote did and and 687 00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:27,239 Speaker 1: if he deserves to be the winner. I know you 688 00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:28,719 Speaker 1: and Ken had a little bit of back and forth 689 00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:30,040 Speaker 1: on this regarding John Schneider. 690 00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:34,080 Speaker 2: Listen, I'm happy for Voter. I love Voter, I love 691 00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:35,759 Speaker 2: going in talking to him. I think it's awesome. His 692 00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:37,879 Speaker 2: first two year, he win, he wins manager of the Year, 693 00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:39,560 Speaker 2: got as team to the postseason. 694 00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:41,359 Speaker 3: Yeah. 695 00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:44,319 Speaker 2: I just thought that the voters will be a little 696 00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:46,279 Speaker 2: bit tired of Stephen Vote, but they weren't. And you 697 00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:48,080 Speaker 2: know what, good for him, Steven Vote. I don't know, 698 00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:49,440 Speaker 2: you don't even think they give you. They even give 699 00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:51,480 Speaker 2: you a trophy for manager of the Year, don't. I 700 00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:54,120 Speaker 2: don't know if you get bonuses. But I think this 701 00:34:54,160 --> 00:34:56,040 Speaker 2: is an awesome accomplishment to put on it. And you 702 00:34:56,120 --> 00:34:58,759 Speaker 2: know what, Murphy and Voter a lot alike in the 703 00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:00,480 Speaker 2: fact that they kind of do what they're their own way, 704 00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:02,440 Speaker 2: and they have their own style, and they're very personable, 705 00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:05,160 Speaker 2: and they have a relationship with all twenty six guys 706 00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:07,920 Speaker 2: on their team and then all the front office and everybody. 707 00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:10,680 Speaker 2: So I think this is kind of a they're mirror 708 00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:12,920 Speaker 2: a little bit. Now. Now Murf tries to be a 709 00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:15,120 Speaker 2: little more funny than what Voter does. Voter is just 710 00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:18,480 Speaker 2: himself and you know Murph when if you've ever had 711 00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:22,359 Speaker 2: a meeting with Murph he talks. You can barely hear him. 712 00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:23,160 Speaker 1: He talks like this. 713 00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:26,960 Speaker 2: You're like, Murph, what can you speak up a little bit? 714 00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:29,960 Speaker 2: And whereas voters a little bit more serious. But I 715 00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:32,360 Speaker 2: think they have very similar personalities that they get to 716 00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:34,440 Speaker 2: know everybody, they figure out what they can work with 717 00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:36,080 Speaker 2: on them and they run with it. 718 00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:41,520 Speaker 1: Certainly do. By the way, they do get a plaque 719 00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:43,880 Speaker 1: from the BBWA, from manager up here, so they do 720 00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:44,400 Speaker 1: get something. 721 00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:48,520 Speaker 2: Okay, nice, I just plaque is cool banda. 722 00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:52,640 Speaker 1: Blacks that kind of as a member of the BBWA. Look, 723 00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:55,520 Speaker 1: we got to show the love, right the players, the managers, everyone, 724 00:35:55,600 --> 00:35:58,200 Speaker 1: everyone gets something. When you win something, it's a huge accomplishment. 725 00:35:58,480 --> 00:35:59,480 Speaker 1: Got to get something out of it. 726 00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:05,719 Speaker 3: Everybody gets a trophy, Kyle, No, just the winners. Oh yeah, 727 00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:08,279 Speaker 3: just my winners. John Schneider got nothing. 728 00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:13,480 Speaker 1: He does get an American League Championship ring, which you 729 00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:14,840 Speaker 1: guys have talked about. You don't love. 730 00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:19,680 Speaker 2: They're nice, They're nice, They're really nice. I don't. 731 00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:24,279 Speaker 3: It's just you'll always know who beat you and if 732 00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:26,120 Speaker 3: you ever come into it, if you're wearing your American 733 00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:29,560 Speaker 3: League Championship ring and somebody has a World Series ring 734 00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:33,120 Speaker 3: on in the same room. You gotta take it off 735 00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:38,200 Speaker 3: like they're they're ring hierarchy like you can't be you can't. 736 00:36:51,520 --> 00:36:54,799 Speaker 1: All right, Eric, the question everyone wants to know, what 737 00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:55,680 Speaker 1: how are you wearing today? 738 00:36:56,640 --> 00:36:59,200 Speaker 3: What's my TCU had? Of course, I mean since I'm 739 00:36:59,200 --> 00:37:02,919 Speaker 3: getting the oh wait, another Texas, of course we got 740 00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:03,440 Speaker 3: to skip on. 741 00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:03,920 Speaker 2: Why not? 742 00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:07,040 Speaker 3: You got to have your Rangers hat? And I'm expecting 743 00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:09,200 Speaker 3: a turnaround because if Skip can do what he did 744 00:37:09,239 --> 00:37:12,840 Speaker 3: in Florida, he's got a little bit better, more of 745 00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:13,680 Speaker 3: a talented roster. 746 00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:18,560 Speaker 2: In Texas, he does. 747 00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:24,520 Speaker 1: He does the big question I've always wondered, Eric, that's 748 00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:27,120 Speaker 1: part of our crats Hot segment. How many hats do 749 00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:28,000 Speaker 1: you actually own? 750 00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:33,000 Speaker 3: I know it's more than one hundred, and I know 751 00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:35,799 Speaker 3: it's more than one hundred and fifty two. I think 752 00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:37,640 Speaker 3: it was because I want one hundred and fifty two 753 00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:41,160 Speaker 3: straight without wearing the same hat again. And now New 754 00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:44,400 Speaker 3: Era has been very kind and they've sent me a 755 00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:48,399 Speaker 3: couple extra. My buddy over here to my left, he's 756 00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:51,759 Speaker 3: been very kind and sent me one from London, The 757 00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:54,680 Speaker 3: All Star game, so you got to You gotta have 758 00:37:54,719 --> 00:37:57,000 Speaker 3: your hook ups, so one day I'll count them all 759 00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:00,600 Speaker 4: On