1 00:00:01,120 --> 00:00:03,360 Speaker 1: Ron and Anian. We had ano six month in the 2 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:06,880 Speaker 1: shop this week. That was pushed in. Well, it was 3 00:00:07,000 --> 00:00:09,479 Speaker 1: driven in, should have been pushed in. When we got 4 00:00:09,480 --> 00:00:12,720 Speaker 1: in the car, the charging system wasn't working, dash lights 5 00:00:12,760 --> 00:00:15,319 Speaker 1: were lit up and there was an electrical smell. There 6 00:00:15,400 --> 00:00:23,400 Speaker 1: was something clearly burning. The car doctor, thank you. He'll 7 00:00:23,400 --> 00:00:25,280 Speaker 1: appreciate that. He's an old man. You have to say 8 00:00:25,320 --> 00:00:28,480 Speaker 1: that ladder. He can't hear so good now, um if Mike, 9 00:00:28,760 --> 00:00:32,000 Speaker 1: if the micro silent, it's retribution. Welcome to the radio 10 00:00:32,120 --> 00:00:36,440 Speaker 1: home of Ron and Anian, the Car Doctor. Since this 11 00:00:36,600 --> 00:00:39,680 Speaker 1: is where car owners the world overturned to for their 12 00:00:39,800 --> 00:00:43,920 Speaker 1: definitive opinion on automotive repair. If your mechanics giving you 13 00:00:44,040 --> 00:00:46,760 Speaker 1: a busy signal, pick up the phone and call in. 14 00:00:47,159 --> 00:00:49,760 Speaker 1: The garage doors are open, but I am here to 15 00:00:49,760 --> 00:00:53,199 Speaker 1: take your calls at eight five five five six and 16 00:00:53,280 --> 00:00:59,800 Speaker 1: now he running Hey, you know, almost don't turn on 17 00:00:59,840 --> 00:01:01,640 Speaker 1: my Aanka, Phil and Tom would have yelled at me again, 18 00:01:01,680 --> 00:01:04,240 Speaker 1: but that happens from time to time. He uh, he 19 00:01:04,360 --> 00:01:06,600 Speaker 1: keeps me online. I'd be lost without him. You're a 20 00:01:06,600 --> 00:01:08,880 Speaker 1: good man, Tom Ray. I appreciate you being there, Sir 21 00:01:09,400 --> 00:01:12,240 Speaker 1: Um as always, Let's let's wander over and let's go 22 00:01:12,319 --> 00:01:15,880 Speaker 1: talk to Robert in Virginia sixteen Chevy Silverado. Let's start 23 00:01:16,240 --> 00:01:18,399 Speaker 1: right out of the gate. Robert. Welcome to the car, doctor, sir, 24 00:01:18,440 --> 00:01:22,479 Speaker 1: How can I help? Thank you? Ron? I'm calling because 25 00:01:22,520 --> 00:01:29,119 Speaker 1: I have this problem with Chevy Silverado. Uh. It uh 26 00:01:29,319 --> 00:01:33,640 Speaker 1: only makes this clattering noise. Uh when it's cold outside, 27 00:01:33,680 --> 00:01:37,200 Speaker 1: like forty degrees in the forties and below. And that's 28 00:01:37,240 --> 00:01:39,560 Speaker 1: the only time that makes it runs great. No problems, 29 00:01:39,600 --> 00:01:43,160 Speaker 1: no uh. In July, just a clattering noise in the 30 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:47,920 Speaker 1: bell housing area got underneath the vehicle. It's not the 31 00:01:47,960 --> 00:01:50,920 Speaker 1: shrouding on the catalytic converter. It's nothing like that. I 32 00:01:50,960 --> 00:01:53,320 Speaker 1: can't figure it out. Okay. How many miles are on 33 00:01:53,360 --> 00:02:01,080 Speaker 1: this Robert? A little overt someplace between fifty three? Okay, 34 00:02:01,200 --> 00:02:06,720 Speaker 1: do you have any idea when it started? I bought 35 00:02:06,720 --> 00:02:12,560 Speaker 1: the truck used last year, and uh, it never made 36 00:02:12,560 --> 00:02:16,480 Speaker 1: a noise until it was cold out the end of 37 00:02:16,600 --> 00:02:19,520 Speaker 1: last year when it was cold, and then this year 38 00:02:19,680 --> 00:02:21,679 Speaker 1: did a couple of times too when it's cold out, 39 00:02:21,720 --> 00:02:24,119 Speaker 1: and I took it to the dealership because it's under 40 00:02:24,120 --> 00:02:28,200 Speaker 1: warranty and they can't seem to duplicated. But it's only 41 00:02:28,200 --> 00:02:31,480 Speaker 1: when it's cold out. Well, you know, if if you 42 00:02:31,560 --> 00:02:33,919 Speaker 1: leave it outside the dealership at night this time of 43 00:02:34,040 --> 00:02:36,720 Speaker 1: year and you go there and start it and listen, 44 00:02:36,720 --> 00:02:38,760 Speaker 1: I wouldn't be afraid to do that. Guys, I'm dropping 45 00:02:38,760 --> 00:02:40,800 Speaker 1: my truck off Monday. I'll see at eight o'clock what 46 00:02:40,840 --> 00:02:43,520 Speaker 1: time you're gonna look at it. Let's start it together, 47 00:02:44,320 --> 00:02:46,799 Speaker 1: you know. That's that's the easy way to get around 48 00:02:46,800 --> 00:02:50,320 Speaker 1: that dodge, all right. But more importantly, before you go 49 00:02:50,400 --> 00:02:54,079 Speaker 1: through all that, you've got a pencil and paper. Yes, sir, 50 00:02:54,680 --> 00:02:57,120 Speaker 1: take a look at Take a look at g M bulletin. 51 00:02:57,240 --> 00:03:02,239 Speaker 1: Oh one dash show six dash ow one dash. I 52 00:03:02,280 --> 00:03:08,040 Speaker 1: think it's seas in Charlie. I guess what the title? Sure, 53 00:03:08,080 --> 00:03:12,720 Speaker 1: Oh one dash show six dash ow one dash. I 54 00:03:12,760 --> 00:03:15,160 Speaker 1: believe it's c because they had three or four different 55 00:03:15,240 --> 00:03:18,959 Speaker 1: versions of this. I believe it's Charlie at this point. 56 00:03:19,040 --> 00:03:21,800 Speaker 1: By now, it might even be David. You know they've 57 00:03:21,800 --> 00:03:24,080 Speaker 1: they've probably updated it. And guess what the title of 58 00:03:24,080 --> 00:03:26,160 Speaker 1: that bulletin is. I love this one when I read 59 00:03:26,200 --> 00:03:32,520 Speaker 1: it engine knock on cold start. Well, yeah, I did 60 00:03:32,639 --> 00:03:35,120 Speaker 1: read that. I did go through and read all the 61 00:03:35,160 --> 00:03:38,720 Speaker 1: bulletin right um with the cold start, and it talked 62 00:03:38,720 --> 00:03:42,280 Speaker 1: a little bit about the oil the you know, the 63 00:03:42,400 --> 00:03:51,400 Speaker 1: viscosity of the oil, carbon deposits, Yeah, carbon deposits and stuff. Um, 64 00:03:52,520 --> 00:03:57,440 Speaker 1: but I overheard last weekend on your show you mentioned 65 00:03:57,440 --> 00:04:02,920 Speaker 1: a clattering noise on the Chevy and I just caught 66 00:04:02,960 --> 00:04:04,320 Speaker 1: my ear. And that's why I want to call you. 67 00:04:04,360 --> 00:04:06,440 Speaker 1: I haven't I've never listened to you until to the 68 00:04:06,640 --> 00:04:10,400 Speaker 1: you know, last Saturday, right right. I appreciate that I'm 69 00:04:10,440 --> 00:04:12,640 Speaker 1: clattering noise on Chevy's I think we were talking about 70 00:04:12,680 --> 00:04:15,000 Speaker 1: something else. I don't know that we were talking about silverados, 71 00:04:15,680 --> 00:04:18,159 Speaker 1: but I would and I wouldn't just stop here with 72 00:04:18,200 --> 00:04:20,160 Speaker 1: this bulletin. I'll tell you one thing I would do, 73 00:04:20,279 --> 00:04:22,919 Speaker 1: just to be certain it's nothing internal in the engine. 74 00:04:23,520 --> 00:04:26,719 Speaker 1: And I don't I don't recommend oil analysis as a 75 00:04:26,760 --> 00:04:30,000 Speaker 1: regular thing, but why not do an oil analysis on 76 00:04:30,040 --> 00:04:35,240 Speaker 1: the next change? You know, how do you how do 77 00:04:35,279 --> 00:04:38,760 Speaker 1: you know the engine is not coming apart? Sometimes? You know, 78 00:04:39,240 --> 00:04:43,039 Speaker 1: it doesn't matter what you're diagnosed, and let's let's you know, 79 00:04:43,120 --> 00:04:45,960 Speaker 1: tell me what's good, I'll tell you what's bad. Hopefully 80 00:04:45,960 --> 00:04:48,000 Speaker 1: the report comes back and tells you that you know 81 00:04:48,320 --> 00:04:50,520 Speaker 1: your heart rate, your blood pressure and your cholesterol are 82 00:04:50,560 --> 00:04:55,080 Speaker 1: all good. You know, it's nothing internal, all right, and 83 00:04:55,360 --> 00:04:57,480 Speaker 1: then you can breathe a side relief. Then you can 84 00:04:57,520 --> 00:05:00,080 Speaker 1: sit there and say, well, it's not the end. And 85 00:05:00,320 --> 00:05:02,440 Speaker 1: there's there's no metal in the oil. There's nothing in 86 00:05:02,440 --> 00:05:05,640 Speaker 1: the oil that indicates an engine problem. But if there is, 87 00:05:06,600 --> 00:05:09,479 Speaker 1: and as you say, it's under warranty, you've now taken 88 00:05:09,480 --> 00:05:10,960 Speaker 1: the first step that at least you can go to 89 00:05:10,960 --> 00:05:13,960 Speaker 1: the dealer with a report and go, look, it's under warranty. 90 00:05:14,080 --> 00:05:20,000 Speaker 1: Fix it right either either either either way, you've taken 91 00:05:20,040 --> 00:05:23,880 Speaker 1: a big step. Now. If either way, then you can go, hey, listen, 92 00:05:23,920 --> 00:05:28,360 Speaker 1: it's not in the engine, so what is it? All right? 93 00:05:28,680 --> 00:05:34,320 Speaker 1: You could follow one oh six carbon deposits. Let's do 94 00:05:34,360 --> 00:05:37,920 Speaker 1: a real good carbon cleaning, all right. You could go 95 00:05:38,000 --> 00:05:41,280 Speaker 1: through that, and then when that doesn't do it, then 96 00:05:41,320 --> 00:05:43,200 Speaker 1: the only place left that I would have to say 97 00:05:43,320 --> 00:05:45,720 Speaker 1: is do you have an issue going on? They do 98 00:05:45,800 --> 00:05:48,360 Speaker 1: have some torque converter issues and maybe that's what you 99 00:05:48,480 --> 00:05:54,400 Speaker 1: heard me talking about with chatter and clatter. Yeah, okay, um, 100 00:05:54,440 --> 00:05:58,360 Speaker 1: you know do you do you have a pending trans problem? 101 00:05:58,360 --> 00:06:00,799 Speaker 1: And maybe you can't prove it you maybe you can't 102 00:06:00,800 --> 00:06:02,800 Speaker 1: prove it yet, but you can prove what it isn't, 103 00:06:02,800 --> 00:06:06,160 Speaker 1: So this is what it has to be, all right. 104 00:06:06,279 --> 00:06:11,480 Speaker 1: Was there a like a bulletin on the there's all 105 00:06:11,520 --> 00:06:14,680 Speaker 1: kinds of bulletins on the transit for those, but there's 106 00:06:14,720 --> 00:06:17,880 Speaker 1: there's nothing specific that talks about noiser that would describe 107 00:06:17,880 --> 00:06:22,799 Speaker 1: your situation. So you know I would, but I would, 108 00:06:22,839 --> 00:06:26,279 Speaker 1: I would. You know, the trans as themselves wholeheartedly have 109 00:06:26,400 --> 00:06:29,800 Speaker 1: some issues. I always encourage people stay on top of 110 00:06:29,839 --> 00:06:34,080 Speaker 1: the fluid changes, stay on top of fluid level. And 111 00:06:34,640 --> 00:06:37,320 Speaker 1: you know, in your case, doing an oil analysis will 112 00:06:37,320 --> 00:06:39,600 Speaker 1: tell me is an engine or transmission and give you 113 00:06:39,640 --> 00:06:43,640 Speaker 1: a direction. So you recommend that oil analysis is also 114 00:06:43,680 --> 00:06:47,760 Speaker 1: on the transmission to UM. You know, I've never I've 115 00:06:47,920 --> 00:06:50,760 Speaker 1: never thought about doing an oil analysis on a transmission. 116 00:06:50,800 --> 00:06:53,320 Speaker 1: I don't know that they'll do that because I've got 117 00:06:53,320 --> 00:06:56,040 Speaker 1: to think trans fluid. I've got to think trans fluid 118 00:06:56,040 --> 00:07:00,080 Speaker 1: would show contaminant anyway, any trans you hey, listen, you 119 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:02,839 Speaker 1: could try it. Listen, be my delegate. All right. When 120 00:07:02,839 --> 00:07:05,600 Speaker 1: you talk to the oil analysis company, ask him, can 121 00:07:05,640 --> 00:07:08,039 Speaker 1: you do an analysis on trans fluid? Is it worthwhile? 122 00:07:08,440 --> 00:07:10,920 Speaker 1: See what they say and report back. How's that I'll 123 00:07:10,960 --> 00:07:14,520 Speaker 1: give you a job. It sounds great. H One last 124 00:07:14,600 --> 00:07:19,000 Speaker 1: question though, uh oil analysis, do you have any recommendation 125 00:07:19,160 --> 00:07:21,840 Speaker 1: or a point of contact or just no goal analysis 126 00:07:21,920 --> 00:07:24,560 Speaker 1: for your oil? No point of contact. The name I 127 00:07:24,640 --> 00:07:30,280 Speaker 1: hear thrown about, I believe is is it Keystone Labs? Uh? 128 00:07:31,760 --> 00:07:35,000 Speaker 1: Google it, Google or engine oil analysis and see what 129 00:07:35,120 --> 00:07:37,200 Speaker 1: comes up. But there's there's only two or three in 130 00:07:37,200 --> 00:07:39,600 Speaker 1: the country to my knowledge, and I think the one 131 00:07:39,640 --> 00:07:42,000 Speaker 1: everybody tends to use as a company called Keystone. I 132 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:45,080 Speaker 1: could be wrong about that, but there's there's not a 133 00:07:45,120 --> 00:07:49,240 Speaker 1: lot of choices out there, all right. Well, I appreciate 134 00:07:49,280 --> 00:07:51,640 Speaker 1: the information. When I was in the service, we used 135 00:07:51,680 --> 00:07:54,640 Speaker 1: to do the oil analysis send them off, and I 136 00:07:54,640 --> 00:07:56,560 Speaker 1: guess I have to do the same thing for personal 137 00:07:56,640 --> 00:07:58,960 Speaker 1: vehicle life is a big circle, right. You think you're 138 00:07:58,960 --> 00:08:01,760 Speaker 1: getting away from it, and you just keep coming back. 139 00:08:02,080 --> 00:08:04,400 Speaker 1: You know. Every time every time I see the Amazon 140 00:08:04,480 --> 00:08:06,800 Speaker 1: truck rolling too the shop with some such part or 141 00:08:06,840 --> 00:08:09,640 Speaker 1: tool or material or something, I keep thinking of that 142 00:08:09,720 --> 00:08:13,800 Speaker 1: scene from the music Man I'm dating myself where the 143 00:08:13,840 --> 00:08:16,200 Speaker 1: Wells Fargo wagon is a coming, right. You know, It's 144 00:08:16,240 --> 00:08:18,280 Speaker 1: like we've come full circle in a hundred years. We're 145 00:08:18,280 --> 00:08:20,800 Speaker 1: all excited whenever the Wells Fargo wagon or in this case, 146 00:08:21,040 --> 00:08:24,640 Speaker 1: the Amazon truck shows up. Everything comes full circle. That's life, 147 00:08:24,720 --> 00:08:30,320 Speaker 1: my friend. So well, I appreciate the information. At least 148 00:08:30,320 --> 00:08:34,160 Speaker 1: I have uh a path to follow to see if 149 00:08:34,200 --> 00:08:36,480 Speaker 1: I can find out what the problem is. Glad to 150 00:08:36,520 --> 00:08:38,280 Speaker 1: have been of help. Robert, thank you for your service, 151 00:08:38,320 --> 00:08:43,160 Speaker 1: and you be will You're very welcome, You very welcome. 152 00:08:43,200 --> 00:08:47,080 Speaker 1: You take good care. Zero running any of the car 153 00:08:47,120 --> 00:08:59,160 Speaker 1: doctor coming back right after this, whether it's a little 154 00:08:59,160 --> 00:09:01,960 Speaker 1: red Corvette or are you go. You've come to the 155 00:09:02,040 --> 00:09:04,360 Speaker 1: right place to get that car fixed. Ron and Ady 156 00:09:04,400 --> 00:09:08,720 Speaker 1: in the car doctor five five five zero zero zero. 157 00:09:09,000 --> 00:09:15,840 Speaker 1: Now back to Ron, heyt and stop talking. Tom always 158 00:09:15,880 --> 00:09:17,800 Speaker 1: gets me with these, Um where'd you come up with 159 00:09:17,800 --> 00:09:23,880 Speaker 1: that one? Mr? Ray? Tom? Tom always busy. He's not 160 00:09:23,920 --> 00:09:26,320 Speaker 1: talking to me today. Look at that. There you go. 161 00:09:26,400 --> 00:09:28,240 Speaker 1: I missed the button. Oh there you go. You can't 162 00:09:28,240 --> 00:09:30,680 Speaker 1: miss the button. I don't know. I found that on 163 00:09:30,679 --> 00:09:32,520 Speaker 1: a button here and I figured it would be appropriate. 164 00:09:32,640 --> 00:09:36,319 Speaker 1: By the way, I want to point out that one 165 00:09:36,320 --> 00:09:38,280 Speaker 1: of the callers left a message and they want to 166 00:09:38,280 --> 00:09:40,400 Speaker 1: know why we don't talk about football anymore? Why don't 167 00:09:40,440 --> 00:09:44,199 Speaker 1: we talk about football anymore? Oh? Probably because there hasn't 168 00:09:44,200 --> 00:09:46,320 Speaker 1: been much football going on and Tony is not around. 169 00:09:47,080 --> 00:09:50,440 Speaker 1: That's what it was. So however, Yeah, this is gonna 170 00:09:50,480 --> 00:09:55,120 Speaker 1: be It's gonna be an interesting super Bowl, as it said. 171 00:09:56,360 --> 00:09:58,880 Speaker 1: Uh not yet. There's one more set of games this weekend, 172 00:09:58,920 --> 00:10:02,160 Speaker 1: and it's um are the gint of surprising some of 173 00:10:02,200 --> 00:10:04,320 Speaker 1: the people who are in the playoffs. Are the giants 174 00:10:04,360 --> 00:10:08,080 Speaker 1: in it? No, we won't talk about the Giants, and 175 00:10:08,120 --> 00:10:09,959 Speaker 1: we're not going to talk about the Jets either. Are 176 00:10:09,960 --> 00:10:15,120 Speaker 1: the Jets Senate? No, but the Bills are. Hey, look 177 00:10:15,160 --> 00:10:17,679 Speaker 1: at it this way. The state of New York actually 178 00:10:17,720 --> 00:10:21,480 Speaker 1: has one team that doesn't stink. That's true. Do you 179 00:10:21,520 --> 00:10:23,200 Speaker 1: think maybe we could get Tony on the phone one 180 00:10:23,240 --> 00:10:24,400 Speaker 1: day and we could talk to him so I can 181 00:10:24,440 --> 00:10:26,720 Speaker 1: abuse him about football to make the listeners happy. Would 182 00:10:26,720 --> 00:10:28,360 Speaker 1: you explain to him it's for the radio shows for 183 00:10:28,360 --> 00:10:31,160 Speaker 1: the listeners. Of course, Maybe I'll do that next week 184 00:10:31,200 --> 00:10:33,200 Speaker 1: because that'll that'll be the I think it's the Pro 185 00:10:33,280 --> 00:10:35,240 Speaker 1: Bowl next week, so there won't be much going on. 186 00:10:35,280 --> 00:10:36,960 Speaker 1: So I'll see if I can. I'll see if I'll 187 00:10:37,000 --> 00:10:38,760 Speaker 1: see if I can arrange that. Women maybe we can 188 00:10:38,800 --> 00:10:41,920 Speaker 1: make Tony the football sere and have him come on 189 00:10:41,960 --> 00:10:43,920 Speaker 1: and predict who's gonna win the Super Bowl, who's gonna 190 00:10:43,960 --> 00:10:49,400 Speaker 1: win the games at because because you know what's gonna happen. 191 00:10:49,520 --> 00:10:52,880 Speaker 1: If he's right, If he's right, his head's gonna grow 192 00:10:52,880 --> 00:10:54,240 Speaker 1: big and we're never gonna be able to talk to 193 00:10:54,280 --> 00:10:56,320 Speaker 1: him again. Well, yeah we will. We'll buy him lunch 194 00:10:56,320 --> 00:10:59,360 Speaker 1: and then he'll be normal. So would you would you 195 00:10:59,360 --> 00:11:01,600 Speaker 1: punch me up Mark in Vegas and we'll continue with 196 00:11:01,600 --> 00:11:07,040 Speaker 1: the show. Now there you go, Thank you Mark? Yes, right, yes, sir. 197 00:11:07,559 --> 00:11:09,720 Speaker 1: I have to yeah, I can hear you find I 198 00:11:09,760 --> 00:11:11,280 Speaker 1: have to humor Tom. I love him to death and 199 00:11:12,240 --> 00:11:13,760 Speaker 1: I have to give him his moment in the sun. 200 00:11:14,240 --> 00:11:16,559 Speaker 1: So but because without him, I wouldn't have my moment 201 00:11:16,559 --> 00:11:19,800 Speaker 1: in the sun. Um. But anyway, how can I help 202 00:11:19,840 --> 00:11:21,640 Speaker 1: you in your Euro eight? Hon to c RV Sir, 203 00:11:21,720 --> 00:11:25,160 Speaker 1: Welcome on board. Hi, before I talked to you about 204 00:11:25,200 --> 00:11:27,959 Speaker 1: my CRV, I you know I noticed your picture on 205 00:11:28,000 --> 00:11:32,320 Speaker 1: Facebook today and it reminded me so much. When I 206 00:11:32,360 --> 00:11:35,520 Speaker 1: was younger, my my dad had a fifty six Chevy 207 00:11:35,840 --> 00:11:39,120 Speaker 1: and I never forget. We'd pull into to get gas 208 00:11:39,160 --> 00:11:41,520 Speaker 1: and he'd say, watch this, and we watched the attendant 209 00:11:41,520 --> 00:11:44,160 Speaker 1: trying to figure out where the where the gas goes 210 00:11:44,840 --> 00:11:51,040 Speaker 1: because it's in that tale. Yeah yeah, anyway, anyway, my 211 00:11:51,040 --> 00:11:54,440 Speaker 1: my my t PM, my t p M s light 212 00:11:55,200 --> 00:11:57,920 Speaker 1: on my hon to c r V will come on occasionally. 213 00:11:57,920 --> 00:12:01,040 Speaker 1: It's been doing it for about six months and it 214 00:12:01,200 --> 00:12:02,760 Speaker 1: and it seems to be just be when I'm on 215 00:12:02,800 --> 00:12:06,240 Speaker 1: the freeway and and then when you know, when I'm 216 00:12:06,480 --> 00:12:08,439 Speaker 1: like when I leave town and I'm on the freeway 217 00:12:08,480 --> 00:12:10,920 Speaker 1: for quite a long time, it will come on. It'll 218 00:12:10,960 --> 00:12:14,960 Speaker 1: stay on until I stopped. And then sometimes when I 219 00:12:15,000 --> 00:12:18,440 Speaker 1: started back again, it won't come on. Sometimes it will, 220 00:12:18,480 --> 00:12:21,080 Speaker 1: I mean, and it's it's the t PN, it's the 221 00:12:21,160 --> 00:12:24,880 Speaker 1: system light. It's not that I have low pressure. And 222 00:12:24,960 --> 00:12:28,600 Speaker 1: I was just wondering what you thought. I mean, next 223 00:12:28,600 --> 00:12:33,280 Speaker 1: time I get tires, isn't there a sensor and the tires? Okay? 224 00:12:33,480 --> 00:12:35,400 Speaker 1: And what you've got to think about is this is 225 00:12:35,440 --> 00:12:38,160 Speaker 1: an OH eight. Are the tire pressure sensors? To your knowledge? 226 00:12:38,200 --> 00:12:42,320 Speaker 1: Original that I don't know? You know, I know when 227 00:12:42,360 --> 00:12:45,600 Speaker 1: I've gotten tires before, they always say, well, we can 228 00:12:45,640 --> 00:12:48,880 Speaker 1: do a I don't know what. They change the batteries 229 00:12:48,920 --> 00:12:51,880 Speaker 1: and it's like a rebuild. They say we can rebuild. Well, 230 00:12:52,480 --> 00:12:56,520 Speaker 1: so so think of this, all right. Your car has 231 00:12:56,559 --> 00:13:00,520 Speaker 1: tire pressure sensors. They broadcast at three mega. Here's what 232 00:13:00,559 --> 00:13:03,079 Speaker 1: we could bring Tom on. Tom will explain the radio 233 00:13:03,160 --> 00:13:06,400 Speaker 1: transmission cycle of a tire pressure sensors. It relates to radios, 234 00:13:06,400 --> 00:13:10,520 Speaker 1: but that's a whole another story. So each each sensor 235 00:13:11,080 --> 00:13:16,640 Speaker 1: produces a unique signal on the mega hurts band, all right, 236 00:13:17,120 --> 00:13:19,880 Speaker 1: And you have to think about that because if you 237 00:13:19,960 --> 00:13:22,880 Speaker 1: had to Honda c RV S or a Honda and 238 00:13:22,920 --> 00:13:24,600 Speaker 1: a Chevy, it doesn't matter if you had two cars 239 00:13:24,600 --> 00:13:26,560 Speaker 1: sitting so close to each other at a traffic light. 240 00:13:26,840 --> 00:13:29,880 Speaker 1: How does the tire pressure sensor receiver in the Honda 241 00:13:29,960 --> 00:13:31,800 Speaker 1: not get confused with the signals coming out of the 242 00:13:31,840 --> 00:13:35,120 Speaker 1: Chevy or the Ford or whatever. Because each each each 243 00:13:35,200 --> 00:13:39,520 Speaker 1: vehicle has a unique set of signals learned to that 244 00:13:39,640 --> 00:13:42,480 Speaker 1: vehicle so that it only it's only looking for it's 245 00:13:42,720 --> 00:13:48,199 Speaker 1: four broadcast broadcasts. Okay, I'll say it like that. What 246 00:13:48,280 --> 00:13:52,240 Speaker 1: the what the repair shops are doing when they rotate 247 00:13:52,320 --> 00:13:57,240 Speaker 1: the tires. If your vehicle has tire placement capability such 248 00:13:57,360 --> 00:13:59,720 Speaker 1: that it knows where the left front is by virtue 249 00:13:59,720 --> 00:14:02,800 Speaker 1: of it, censor number one is now the left front, 250 00:14:03,360 --> 00:14:05,880 Speaker 1: it can report, Hey, left front tires thirty four, right 251 00:14:05,880 --> 00:14:10,520 Speaker 1: front tires thirty two, right rear tires thirty and so on. Okay, yeah, 252 00:14:10,600 --> 00:14:13,560 Speaker 1: I don't think I have that capability of my car 253 00:14:13,720 --> 00:14:16,680 Speaker 1: because I don't have I can't bring up a screen, 254 00:14:16,760 --> 00:14:19,440 Speaker 1: a little picture, a screen, right, I can't do anything 255 00:14:19,480 --> 00:14:22,040 Speaker 1: like that. So so so that's my my my main 256 00:14:22,200 --> 00:14:24,720 Speaker 1: my main question is is anything I need to worry 257 00:14:24,760 --> 00:14:27,240 Speaker 1: about or when I when I take my when I 258 00:14:27,280 --> 00:14:30,840 Speaker 1: go get new tires again, do I replace all the sensors. 259 00:14:31,000 --> 00:14:33,800 Speaker 1: They have a way of knowing which sensor is bad. Yes, 260 00:14:33,920 --> 00:14:36,960 Speaker 1: what you could do is so so to the point 261 00:14:37,200 --> 00:14:39,640 Speaker 1: if if those are the original sensors, which if you're 262 00:14:39,640 --> 00:14:42,640 Speaker 1: the original owner and they've never been changed, you know, 263 00:14:42,760 --> 00:14:45,280 Speaker 1: the next time you buy probably are the next time 264 00:14:45,320 --> 00:14:48,120 Speaker 1: you buy tires. Sensors are between eighty and a hundred 265 00:14:48,160 --> 00:14:51,360 Speaker 1: bucks apiece, there's gonna be there's gonna be virtually no 266 00:14:51,520 --> 00:14:55,600 Speaker 1: labor if you're doing tires anyway. So for the price 267 00:14:55,640 --> 00:14:57,840 Speaker 1: of an extra four hundred bucks or whatever it is, 268 00:14:58,320 --> 00:15:00,080 Speaker 1: you know, you get you get four good sensors in 269 00:15:00,120 --> 00:15:02,120 Speaker 1: the car, at least four new sensors. It's not hard 270 00:15:02,160 --> 00:15:05,120 Speaker 1: to do. It's it's to me, it's just part of 271 00:15:05,160 --> 00:15:08,080 Speaker 1: normal maintenance and upkeep. The only other thing you could try. 272 00:15:08,120 --> 00:15:12,640 Speaker 1: There's two things. One, a competently correctly equipped shop with 273 00:15:12,680 --> 00:15:16,080 Speaker 1: a scan tool could go in and look to see 274 00:15:16,360 --> 00:15:19,720 Speaker 1: is there a tire fault code being recorded? Because the 275 00:15:20,120 --> 00:15:24,320 Speaker 1: tire pressure monitoring system, the t PMS, has the ability 276 00:15:24,640 --> 00:15:28,120 Speaker 1: to report within itself. Hey we we didn't see a 277 00:15:28,160 --> 00:15:29,840 Speaker 1: signal out of the left front what happened to the 278 00:15:29,880 --> 00:15:32,760 Speaker 1: left front guy? Okay, what happened to the right rear guy? 279 00:15:32,800 --> 00:15:34,960 Speaker 1: And so on? All right, so it'll get a code 280 00:15:35,000 --> 00:15:39,240 Speaker 1: thirty four or something like that. So that's that's a possibility. 281 00:15:39,320 --> 00:15:42,440 Speaker 1: But the easiest thing is when you set tire pressure. 282 00:15:43,280 --> 00:15:46,320 Speaker 1: How do you set tire pressure based off of what number? 283 00:15:48,080 --> 00:15:51,960 Speaker 1: When I do it, yeah, I just I usually go 284 00:15:52,160 --> 00:15:54,440 Speaker 1: a little more than what's on the car door. I 285 00:15:54,480 --> 00:15:57,640 Speaker 1: think is like pounds. Perfect, you're doing it, I might 286 00:15:57,680 --> 00:16:01,200 Speaker 1: put in right, you're doing it, would evenly, you know, 287 00:16:01,240 --> 00:16:04,000 Speaker 1: I check them and do them evenly all around all. 288 00:16:04,120 --> 00:16:06,080 Speaker 1: I'm just a little confused as why it's coming on 289 00:16:06,240 --> 00:16:09,560 Speaker 1: intermittently like it is too. Well, it's it's very it's 290 00:16:09,680 --> 00:16:14,440 Speaker 1: very likely a faulty sensor at that point, and the 291 00:16:14,440 --> 00:16:17,200 Speaker 1: battery is just intermittently failing, or the sensor is just 292 00:16:17,240 --> 00:16:19,680 Speaker 1: intermittently failing. You ever have you ever have a car 293 00:16:19,720 --> 00:16:22,160 Speaker 1: with a bad alternator that sometimes it worked and sometimes 294 00:16:22,160 --> 00:16:26,920 Speaker 1: it didn't. Yeah, same thing, just smaller, smaller, smaller component. 295 00:16:27,520 --> 00:16:30,280 Speaker 1: So the only other possibility, and I don't believe in 296 00:16:30,320 --> 00:16:32,440 Speaker 1: oh eight this was an option, but I just mentioned 297 00:16:32,480 --> 00:16:35,360 Speaker 1: it in case is what kind of a spare does 298 00:16:35,360 --> 00:16:37,080 Speaker 1: it have? Does it have a full sized spare with 299 00:16:37,120 --> 00:16:40,880 Speaker 1: a tire pressure sensor? Has that? No? I don't. I 300 00:16:40,880 --> 00:16:42,480 Speaker 1: don't believe it. I don't think you do either. I 301 00:16:42,480 --> 00:16:44,480 Speaker 1: think you have a donut. Yeah, I think you have 302 00:16:44,520 --> 00:16:49,160 Speaker 1: a donut. So that's sort of eliminated possibility. I guess 303 00:16:49,160 --> 00:16:51,000 Speaker 1: next time I go to get my tires, if if 304 00:16:51,120 --> 00:16:52,960 Speaker 1: I'll take it to a place where they can I 305 00:16:53,000 --> 00:16:55,360 Speaker 1: don't mind paying for one sensor, but just to replace 306 00:16:55,400 --> 00:16:58,080 Speaker 1: them all. If they can determine which one is not 307 00:16:58,280 --> 00:17:01,400 Speaker 1: signaling properly, you can do it that way. But but 308 00:17:01,400 --> 00:17:04,119 Speaker 1: but but keep in mind, Mark, you know we're talking 309 00:17:04,160 --> 00:17:08,800 Speaker 1: about a battery, all right. Battery tire pressure sensors do 310 00:17:08,920 --> 00:17:12,800 Speaker 1: have a do have a finite life. They you know, 311 00:17:12,840 --> 00:17:15,840 Speaker 1: there's no rule that says, so your your argument's gonna 312 00:17:15,880 --> 00:17:19,080 Speaker 1: be and my experiences, And that's not to say that 313 00:17:19,119 --> 00:17:21,600 Speaker 1: you've got just one sensor causing the problem. You may 314 00:17:21,640 --> 00:17:23,880 Speaker 1: pull codes, so now what do you do. Let's see, 315 00:17:23,960 --> 00:17:26,200 Speaker 1: let's say you pull codes and it tells you you've 316 00:17:26,240 --> 00:17:28,000 Speaker 1: got a thirty two and a thirty four. You've got 317 00:17:28,000 --> 00:17:30,639 Speaker 1: two bad sensors. Are you really going to do just 318 00:17:30,760 --> 00:17:34,040 Speaker 1: two and not the other two? Uh? Probably not, because 319 00:17:34,400 --> 00:17:36,639 Speaker 1: because because the labor to do it you gotta take 320 00:17:36,640 --> 00:17:38,800 Speaker 1: the tire back apart again, balance it and mounted the 321 00:17:38,840 --> 00:17:41,960 Speaker 1: whole nine yards. But you know when they when they 322 00:17:41,960 --> 00:17:44,040 Speaker 1: when they tell you they're going to rebuild the sensors, 323 00:17:44,160 --> 00:17:47,800 Speaker 1: doesn't then include a battery. No, they don't rebuild the sensors. 324 00:17:47,840 --> 00:17:52,800 Speaker 1: They relearn the sensors. They may they're programming, they're they're 325 00:17:52,840 --> 00:17:56,199 Speaker 1: doing a tire calibration, which Hondas and a lot all 326 00:17:56,320 --> 00:17:58,680 Speaker 1: vehicles have to go through in order to tell the system, Hey, 327 00:17:58,840 --> 00:18:03,800 Speaker 1: we change tire pressure, we move things. We're relearning, Okay, 328 00:18:04,119 --> 00:18:08,280 Speaker 1: not necessarily rebuild. I think they charged me like eighty 329 00:18:08,320 --> 00:18:11,840 Speaker 1: bucks last time to rebuild the sensors, and I assumed 330 00:18:11,840 --> 00:18:14,199 Speaker 1: they were putting little batteries in them, or then for 331 00:18:14,280 --> 00:18:16,919 Speaker 1: eighty bucks they better be changing sensors. I think I 332 00:18:16,920 --> 00:18:18,720 Speaker 1: think I'd look at that bill carefully and go back 333 00:18:18,720 --> 00:18:21,119 Speaker 1: and get an explanation of what that's all about. That 334 00:18:21,160 --> 00:18:23,959 Speaker 1: doesn't make any sense. Good luck to you, Mark, and 335 00:18:24,200 --> 00:18:26,800 Speaker 1: uh keeping spinning, and I'll do what I can to 336 00:18:26,880 --> 00:18:28,560 Speaker 1: keep things going on this side. I'm run an anty 337 00:18:28,560 --> 00:18:30,280 Speaker 1: in the car. Doctor, we're coming back right after this. 338 00:18:30,320 --> 00:19:05,520 Speaker 1: Don't go away, let's get going. Let's go over to 339 00:19:05,560 --> 00:19:07,600 Speaker 1: David and Georgia. David, how can it helps her? Ranting 340 00:19:07,600 --> 00:19:11,320 Speaker 1: the indien at your service? Well, that's the und to 341 00:19:11,400 --> 00:19:14,760 Speaker 1: CRV day because I'm having trouble with my wife's two thousand, 342 00:19:14,840 --> 00:19:20,600 Speaker 1: fourteen h c RV so UH for some time now, 343 00:19:21,680 --> 00:19:26,119 Speaker 1: as we drive, especially through neighborhoods, we'll hit about to 344 00:19:26,280 --> 00:19:30,560 Speaker 1: thirty two miles in an hour and the vehicle starts shaking. 345 00:19:32,200 --> 00:19:34,479 Speaker 1: It doesn't it's not like it's going to fall apart, 346 00:19:34,560 --> 00:19:38,880 Speaker 1: but there's definitely a vibration going on. Uh. We've been 347 00:19:38,920 --> 00:19:42,200 Speaker 1: told it was the rear breaks and had that changed out. 348 00:19:42,280 --> 00:19:47,360 Speaker 1: It's still there. We've we've gotten new tires, uh, and UM, 349 00:19:48,520 --> 00:19:52,919 Speaker 1: it just keeps happening Uh. And I'm just concerned because 350 00:19:53,000 --> 00:19:55,600 Speaker 1: it is my wife's car that she's driving around that 351 00:19:55,880 --> 00:19:58,680 Speaker 1: there's something that may also just fall apart. Right. How 352 00:19:58,680 --> 00:20:04,280 Speaker 1: many miles are on it? David? Okay? Um, if you 353 00:20:04,480 --> 00:20:07,600 Speaker 1: if you were to take your foot off the gases 354 00:20:07,600 --> 00:20:14,680 Speaker 1: you're accelerating, does the shutter seem to go away or lesson? Um? 355 00:20:14,720 --> 00:20:19,480 Speaker 1: I think so. Have you seen Honda bulletin fifteen D 356 00:20:19,880 --> 00:20:26,000 Speaker 1: eight six talks about vibration, surging, shuttering under light acceleration. No, 357 00:20:26,040 --> 00:20:29,320 Speaker 1: I have not. Okay, take a look at bulletin six. 358 00:20:29,840 --> 00:20:32,000 Speaker 1: There's a procedure from Honda they want you to They 359 00:20:32,040 --> 00:20:35,399 Speaker 1: want you to change the trans fluid and update the 360 00:20:35,440 --> 00:20:39,560 Speaker 1: software in the trans for the trans control module as 361 00:20:39,560 --> 00:20:43,800 Speaker 1: a possible solution. All right, bulletin has been out there 362 00:20:43,800 --> 00:20:46,560 Speaker 1: at least three years and I'm aware of it. And 363 00:20:46,680 --> 00:20:51,000 Speaker 1: basically they're they're widening the parameters of some of the 364 00:20:51,040 --> 00:20:54,720 Speaker 1: operating characteristics, but they're they're they're calling for a fluid change, 365 00:20:54,720 --> 00:20:57,880 Speaker 1: which I find kind of refreshing that they're admitting they've 366 00:20:57,920 --> 00:20:59,520 Speaker 1: got an issue with fluid. You need to change the 367 00:20:59,560 --> 00:21:01,680 Speaker 1: fluid on the Honda Trans And I should ask that 368 00:21:01,800 --> 00:21:06,720 Speaker 1: question as the fluid ever been changed on this David, So, 369 00:21:07,280 --> 00:21:09,879 Speaker 1: trans fluid has a finite life. I don't care what 370 00:21:09,960 --> 00:21:12,800 Speaker 1: the manufacturers tell me, or tell you or tell us. 371 00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:15,400 Speaker 1: You know, it's everything wears out. We're gonna wear out 372 00:21:15,440 --> 00:21:19,480 Speaker 1: one day, right, so does fluid. And you know the 373 00:21:19,560 --> 00:21:23,440 Speaker 1: issue is you know where and when and how? So 374 00:21:23,720 --> 00:21:26,360 Speaker 1: what what you're faced What you're faced with here is 375 00:21:26,520 --> 00:21:30,000 Speaker 1: if you change this trans fluid and it accelerates the 376 00:21:30,080 --> 00:21:33,320 Speaker 1: demise of the transmission. Not saying it will, but it could. 377 00:21:33,320 --> 00:21:34,879 Speaker 1: This could also be the beginning of the end of 378 00:21:34,920 --> 00:21:38,000 Speaker 1: the transmission. Anyway, would you put a trans in this 379 00:21:38,119 --> 00:21:45,520 Speaker 1: vehicle and keep driving it? Oh? Goodness? Probably not, so 380 00:21:45,800 --> 00:21:50,119 Speaker 1: understand the ramifications. The issue with changing trans fluid on 381 00:21:50,160 --> 00:21:53,720 Speaker 1: an older high mileage unit is quick and simple. Transfluid 382 00:21:53,800 --> 00:21:58,920 Speaker 1: is a detergent, high scrubbing action type of fluid. Transmissions 383 00:21:58,920 --> 00:22:03,840 Speaker 1: work on hydraulic print psible oil. Oil based fluids like 384 00:22:03,920 --> 00:22:07,359 Speaker 1: this will leave a varnish or a coating on the 385 00:22:07,400 --> 00:22:09,840 Speaker 1: inside of the component they're operating in. So now you 386 00:22:09,920 --> 00:22:12,400 Speaker 1: drain out all the old fluid. There's varnished. There's ring 387 00:22:12,440 --> 00:22:15,960 Speaker 1: around the tub, right, there's a bathtub ring. Okay, now 388 00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:17,840 Speaker 1: you put in this fresh fluid that's got a high 389 00:22:17,880 --> 00:22:21,240 Speaker 1: scrubbing action. What's it gonna do. It's gonna scrub all 390 00:22:21,320 --> 00:22:25,520 Speaker 1: the particular off the walls of the trans Transmission operates 391 00:22:25,520 --> 00:22:28,280 Speaker 1: on hydraulics passageways smaller than the eye of a needle. 392 00:22:28,640 --> 00:22:30,479 Speaker 1: Guess what you just did with all those all that 393 00:22:30,520 --> 00:22:32,520 Speaker 1: crud you just scraped off the side of the trans 394 00:22:33,680 --> 00:22:38,639 Speaker 1: now right, yeah, So so could it affect operation? It's possible, 395 00:22:39,400 --> 00:22:41,840 Speaker 1: all right, So this is the roll of the dice moment, 396 00:22:43,400 --> 00:22:47,720 Speaker 1: all right. Lack of fluid, lack of fluid maintenance is 397 00:22:47,720 --> 00:22:50,160 Speaker 1: the manufacturer's way to ensure that you're gonna come around 398 00:22:50,160 --> 00:22:53,600 Speaker 1: to buy another car. Think about that one. Think about 399 00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:58,959 Speaker 1: that one, all right. They're just they're somewhere yesterday and 400 00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:02,760 Speaker 1: they recommended with the the drive axles be replaced. Is 401 00:23:02,800 --> 00:23:05,920 Speaker 1: that at all? Could that at all be a part 402 00:23:05,920 --> 00:23:11,040 Speaker 1: of this? Could be? But before you did that, I 403 00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:15,280 Speaker 1: would definitely make sure I would follow that bulletin all right, 404 00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:20,000 Speaker 1: you know, because they could take that, they could take 405 00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:23,720 Speaker 1: the axles out. And let's talk about this a second, David. 406 00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:28,119 Speaker 1: Let's say it needed a trans all right. A trans 407 00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:32,480 Speaker 1: is a transit between four and five grand on average. 408 00:23:32,760 --> 00:23:34,560 Speaker 1: All right, what kind of car are you gonna go 409 00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:39,640 Speaker 1: buy for five grand? Not much? Right? Is the rest 410 00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:44,639 Speaker 1: of the car in good shape? Uh? Body want great stap? 411 00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:50,240 Speaker 1: My wife's not real keen on the vehicles itself. Well, 412 00:23:50,840 --> 00:23:54,280 Speaker 1: that's a different problem. I gotta, I gotta put I gotta, 413 00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:55,960 Speaker 1: I gotta change my shirt and put the collar on. 414 00:23:56,040 --> 00:23:59,800 Speaker 1: To give you advice on that, brother, Um, because remember this, 415 00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:04,800 Speaker 1: If mom is not happy, nobody's happy. So you know 416 00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:07,440 Speaker 1: you could you could solve a lot of problems right 417 00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:09,879 Speaker 1: now by going in having dinner. When you have supper 418 00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:11,880 Speaker 1: with her tonight, say honey, you know what I thought 419 00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:13,840 Speaker 1: about the car, And she says, yeah, what's that? Say 420 00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:17,160 Speaker 1: what color? And she'll say what color? What? What color? 421 00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:19,600 Speaker 1: Do you want the new car to be? I guarantee 422 00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:24,520 Speaker 1: you Mama will be happy. But that doesn't fix it. 423 00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:27,119 Speaker 1: That doesn't fix the potential trans problem. You've got some 424 00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:29,000 Speaker 1: stuff to do there, David. I can't help you with 425 00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:30,960 Speaker 1: all of it. I'm just trying to give you food 426 00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:33,320 Speaker 1: for thought. But I would think carefully. Maybe there's a 427 00:24:33,359 --> 00:24:35,639 Speaker 1: young family member that could use a decent used car. 428 00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:39,040 Speaker 1: Something like that, UM might be worth while. But you know, 429 00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:42,080 Speaker 1: keep in mind that replacement vehicles are at a premium 430 00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:45,359 Speaker 1: right now. And if you want to see the value 431 00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:47,439 Speaker 1: of that car, go look at used cars with like 432 00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:51,879 Speaker 1: mileagen and condition. You'll be you'll be surprised by what 433 00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:55,120 Speaker 1: that car could potentially be worth if it's operating properly. 434 00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:57,680 Speaker 1: So good luck to you. And uh, if mom is 435 00:24:57,720 --> 00:25:00,280 Speaker 1: not happy, nobody's happy. Remember that. Let's get out over 436 00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:02,560 Speaker 1: to Kennan, Virginia real quick. We'll open up the conversation 437 00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:06,080 Speaker 1: before we take a one one more break. Ken. Welcome 438 00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:09,320 Speaker 1: to the car doctor, sir. How can I help? I 439 00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:12,600 Speaker 1: have a two thousand and seventeen four to explore front 440 00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:18,440 Speaker 1: wheel drive, thousand miles on. It had no problems with 441 00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:22,359 Speaker 1: it whatsoever, but I bought new tires and I had 442 00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:25,760 Speaker 1: them rotated, and not long after that, I started hearing 443 00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:29,000 Speaker 1: a whining in the front when I would take my 444 00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:32,879 Speaker 1: foot off the accelerator, so it changes. Didn't have the 445 00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:37,240 Speaker 1: transmission fluid checked and it was at the proper level. 446 00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:44,879 Speaker 1: So a a wine that changes with load is generally 447 00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:48,919 Speaker 1: a drive train issue. In the old days, before before 448 00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:51,000 Speaker 1: we invented front wheel drive, if it was a rear 449 00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:54,040 Speaker 1: wheel drive vehicle, we would classify it as a failing 450 00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:58,320 Speaker 1: or faulty pinion bearing in the rear axle. If this 451 00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:01,800 Speaker 1: is a front wheel drive only vehicle. Fortunately there's a 452 00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:04,119 Speaker 1: whole lot less to look at and consider, but it 453 00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:08,080 Speaker 1: still does have pinion bearings and a front axle somewhere 454 00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:12,359 Speaker 1: in that combination of transmission and power takeoff unit. So 455 00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:15,199 Speaker 1: my first question or comment would be can it be 456 00:26:15,280 --> 00:26:17,119 Speaker 1: duplicated on a lift? And I realized you don't know 457 00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:19,520 Speaker 1: the answer to that question, but I would, you know, 458 00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:21,239 Speaker 1: take it to a mechanic, have them put it up 459 00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:24,200 Speaker 1: in the air, secure it properly. One mechanic driving in 460 00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:27,640 Speaker 1: another mechanic listening underneath with the stethoscope to determine which 461 00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:32,880 Speaker 1: components making noise. If the noise is completely gone up 462 00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:36,840 Speaker 1: in the air and running, then maybe it's tire related. 463 00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:41,359 Speaker 1: But from your description, it doesn't sound like it, okay 464 00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:44,240 Speaker 1: from your From from your description, I'd be more inclined 465 00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:54,120 Speaker 1: to think it's power train and power right right, good move. 466 00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:59,680 Speaker 1: I'm thinking that anything in the drive train is under warranty, 467 00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:02,399 Speaker 1: so I'll take it into the dealer and see what 468 00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:06,080 Speaker 1: they say about it. They do have they do have 469 00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:10,320 Speaker 1: problems with the power takeoff unit the p TU. But 470 00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:13,560 Speaker 1: your mechanic, whoever is working on it currently, should have 471 00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:15,639 Speaker 1: been telling you if if there is usually it's the 472 00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:19,080 Speaker 1: sign it's a one of the external acle chef seal 473 00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:23,880 Speaker 1: on the right side leaks and makes a bloody mess. Uh. 474 00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:27,959 Speaker 1: You know garage is clean, so I'll have no leaks, 475 00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:30,399 Speaker 1: so you have no leaks. So yeah, let's get it 476 00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:31,840 Speaker 1: back to Ford and get them to look at it. 477 00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:34,120 Speaker 1: I don't I can't say that it's I can't say 478 00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:36,720 Speaker 1: that it's tire related. From your description to me, it 479 00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:39,720 Speaker 1: sounds like it's more drivetrain something under load and then 480 00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:42,520 Speaker 1: you change the load and it changes, the changes the noise. 481 00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:46,439 Speaker 1: So alright, sorry, You're very welcome. You have a good 482 00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:50,680 Speaker 1: rest of the day. Very welcome. Bye bye zero zero 483 00:27:50,680 --> 00:28:04,240 Speaker 1: the card doctors coming back right after this. Welcome back 484 00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:06,600 Speaker 1: when the car doctor at your service, Scooter Philip and 485 00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:12,240 Speaker 1: Vermont Philip, how are you today? Good welcome awards, sir, Yes, sir, 486 00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:16,439 Speaker 1: I'm just calling in. You had a guy called earlier 487 00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:20,280 Speaker 1: on the Chevy pick up. He had a rattling noise 488 00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:23,280 Speaker 1: down by the bellhousing. You couldn't figure it out. Robert 489 00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:27,840 Speaker 1: and Robert and Delaware. I think it was our Maryland yip. Yeah, 490 00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:31,399 Speaker 1: I had a similar issue. I had an older Chevy 491 00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:35,280 Speaker 1: band and and drove me crazy. For the longest time, 492 00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:37,720 Speaker 1: I thought it was the flex plate that had been 493 00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:42,600 Speaker 1: cracked or whatever. But I ended up taking the transmission 494 00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:47,400 Speaker 1: off and checking the the flex plate. I actually put 495 00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:49,680 Speaker 1: another one on because I did buy one, and uh 496 00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:54,760 Speaker 1: put it all back together, and things were even worse. Well, 497 00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:59,520 Speaker 1: it turned out to be my starter, the bendix, the 498 00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:04,960 Speaker 1: spring runs the bendits on the starter that turns the 499 00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:08,480 Speaker 1: fly wheel. That spring was weak and the bend itt 500 00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:12,760 Speaker 1: was just slipping down and was just hitting the flex plate. Right, 501 00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:16,680 Speaker 1: was your was your problem? Was your problem like his? 502 00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:18,640 Speaker 1: And that it only did it when the temperature dropped 503 00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:24,120 Speaker 1: below fifty degrees No, but it started just gently, you know, 504 00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:28,120 Speaker 1: then it got worse. So and what I ended up doing, 505 00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:30,560 Speaker 1: I just know the two boats on the starter, I 506 00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:33,200 Speaker 1: just loosened them up one day in the morning there 507 00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:36,040 Speaker 1: when it was doing it, and just backed that starter 508 00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:38,080 Speaker 1: out just a little bit and it cleared it up. 509 00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:43,720 Speaker 1: So there's something he can try, I guess so he could, 510 00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:45,920 Speaker 1: But I just want to point out I appreciate the call. 511 00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:47,480 Speaker 1: Philip I really do. But he had a little bit 512 00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:50,960 Speaker 1: of a different problem. His scenario was only in cold weather. 513 00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:54,200 Speaker 1: The weather had to be specifically below fifty degrees. That's 514 00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:57,080 Speaker 1: when his problem was created. So but you know what, 515 00:29:57,080 --> 00:29:59,200 Speaker 1: we'll pass it along. Should we talk again to Robert 516 00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:01,680 Speaker 1: and UH. As always, we appreciate all the inside our 517 00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:03,880 Speaker 1: listeners give us. Let's get over to Terry in Iowa. 518 00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:06,200 Speaker 1: Three Toyota camera. Terry, welcome to the car doctor. How 519 00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:09,200 Speaker 1: can I help? Thank you. I've got a two thousand 520 00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:15,240 Speaker 1: three V six camera and it'll start but immediately and 521 00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:18,400 Speaker 1: RPMs go up to about three and then they fall 522 00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:23,480 Speaker 1: down quickly and the car dies. I checked for voltage 523 00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:27,120 Speaker 1: back at the fuel pump, and when I turned the 524 00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:30,680 Speaker 1: ignition key to the on position, I get no voltage 525 00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:36,840 Speaker 1: at all. I checked the relay and it's okay. And 526 00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:41,760 Speaker 1: when I bypass the relay, the fuel pump will run 527 00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:47,080 Speaker 1: and I'll get about eleven and three and a half 528 00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:51,600 Speaker 1: volts back at the pump. While it's running, I checked 529 00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:56,200 Speaker 1: the terminals on the relay socket, and on two of 530 00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:59,560 Speaker 1: the terminals, which I think are the control side, I'm 531 00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:01,760 Speaker 1: showing a voltage when the ignition key is in the 532 00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:05,640 Speaker 1: on position of three point to eight. On the other 533 00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:09,960 Speaker 1: two terminals, the power side, I'm getting twelve point one. 534 00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:16,000 Speaker 1: But I still unless I jumped the relay, I can't 535 00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:18,880 Speaker 1: get any power back to the fuel pump itself, and 536 00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:21,560 Speaker 1: the car won't run more than a second or two. 537 00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:25,200 Speaker 1: So in other words, in other words, it's it's got 538 00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:28,920 Speaker 1: no fuel pressure. Um, well, I haven't checked the fuel 539 00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:31,520 Speaker 1: pressure yet. But you don't hear the pump running. I 540 00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:33,280 Speaker 1: don't know. When you turn the ignition key to the 541 00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:36,600 Speaker 1: on position, you don't hear the pump running at all. Okay? 542 00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:41,520 Speaker 1: Does it Does it have spark um? Yes, because the 543 00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:44,960 Speaker 1: car will start and RPMs go really high and then 544 00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:48,560 Speaker 1: it will slowly die. Does it happen the accelerator pedal? 545 00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:52,640 Speaker 1: It won't do anything. Does it have injector pulse? I'm 546 00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:54,600 Speaker 1: not sure. I haven't been able to hear that I 547 00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:56,600 Speaker 1: can't get the car to run. Will I hear that 548 00:31:56,640 --> 00:31:58,479 Speaker 1: without the car running? Sure? If if you can get 549 00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:02,840 Speaker 1: at the crank it cranks right, Okay, chances are it will, 550 00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:06,240 Speaker 1: but it would tell me something because other than that, 551 00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:08,960 Speaker 1: we're into It's not that the fuel pump is bad. 552 00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:11,400 Speaker 1: We've got no signal back to the fuel pump. So 553 00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:14,640 Speaker 1: we've got to figure out what's it missing, all right, 554 00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:19,560 Speaker 1: and i'd want to know no spark, spark, injector pulse, 555 00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:23,120 Speaker 1: no injector pulse, and then we can talk about inputs 556 00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:26,560 Speaker 1: as far as what keeps the pump to run. I'll 557 00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:28,239 Speaker 1: tell you what, Terry, Sit tight. Let me pull over 558 00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:30,480 Speaker 1: and take this pause. When I come back, we'll finish up. 559 00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:32,440 Speaker 1: I'm running eating the car doctor. We'll be back right 560 00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:41,600 Speaker 1: after this. Welcome back. Aren't any of the car doctor? Terry? Ayo, 561 00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:44,600 Speaker 1: where you're still there? Right? I'll tell you what I 562 00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:47,080 Speaker 1: really think is wrong with this car, and it's it's 563 00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:49,479 Speaker 1: gonna be a reach, but but but help me here 564 00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:51,680 Speaker 1: and work with me here. I think you got a mouse. 565 00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:56,040 Speaker 1: And I'll tell you why has this car sat for 566 00:32:56,080 --> 00:33:00,000 Speaker 1: any length of time just out of curiosity? Only recently 567 00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:03,800 Speaker 1: when I couldn't get it started, and it worked one 568 00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:07,280 Speaker 1: day and then one day it didn't. Well. Actually I 569 00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:09,920 Speaker 1: had taken it. I was having problems with it running 570 00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:13,760 Speaker 1: rough and missing, and I had replaced all the coils, 571 00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:16,520 Speaker 1: six coils and six plugs. I put on a new 572 00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:19,680 Speaker 1: timing belt and it had a very high idol and 573 00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:21,520 Speaker 1: it was missing. So I took it to a mechanic 574 00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:25,360 Speaker 1: and they said one of the coils had a bad 575 00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:29,240 Speaker 1: wiring harness to it, and they replaced that. When I 576 00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:31,640 Speaker 1: picked it up from their shop, I drove it home. 577 00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:36,560 Speaker 1: And when I got home, h I cleaned the throttle 578 00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:39,600 Speaker 1: body and I was in the process of flushing out 579 00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:43,880 Speaker 1: the power our steering system when it died. And then 580 00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:46,880 Speaker 1: I couldn't get it started. It would only start for 581 00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:50,360 Speaker 1: a few seconds, accelerate where rpns would go real high, 582 00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:53,520 Speaker 1: and then drop off really quick. And and that's where 583 00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:56,720 Speaker 1: it's It hasn't been driven for a couple of weeks 584 00:33:56,760 --> 00:33:59,400 Speaker 1: now because I've had this problem. Okay, which which inject 585 00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:01,480 Speaker 1: or did they placed your call front of the motor 586 00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:04,560 Speaker 1: back of the motor. They didn't replace an inject not 587 00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:08,839 Speaker 1: an inject of the wiring behind on the number three. Oh, 588 00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:10,400 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, the coil so it was one of the 589 00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:17,760 Speaker 1: back wiring harnesses. Okay, have you looked at that repair? Um, 590 00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:19,440 Speaker 1: I have not looked at it real quickly. You have 591 00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:22,520 Speaker 1: to take the airplane to do that. I have not looked. 592 00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:25,400 Speaker 1: I can see the wires that they replaced because they 593 00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:29,200 Speaker 1: are different than the originals. Does it? Does it look 594 00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:33,080 Speaker 1: like a proper repair to me? It does. I mean 595 00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:36,200 Speaker 1: the connection looks good and the wires come in and 596 00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:42,160 Speaker 1: they're clean. Yet on a on a Toyota, Toyota calls 597 00:34:42,200 --> 00:34:46,160 Speaker 1: the fuel pump relay the circuit opening relay, and it 598 00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:48,919 Speaker 1: should be in the underhood junction box on the left 599 00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:54,840 Speaker 1: front side right, So the ground for the circuit opening relay, 600 00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:57,799 Speaker 1: if memory serves me correct, goes to the back of 601 00:34:57,840 --> 00:35:03,239 Speaker 1: the rear cylinder head. And I'm wondering if that's intact, 602 00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:07,560 Speaker 1: because I'm thinking about your voltage readings and the one 603 00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:14,280 Speaker 1: voltage reading what you thought was the control side showed high. 604 00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:19,080 Speaker 1: It showed three point seven five volts. Yeah, that doesn't 605 00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:23,960 Speaker 1: sound right, and it should be zero. Ground is ground 606 00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:28,120 Speaker 1: if it's closing the circuit, So why is that? Why 607 00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:30,480 Speaker 1: is that like that? Do we have a problem with 608 00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:34,879 Speaker 1: the ground not bringing the circuit to full closure, not 609 00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:37,560 Speaker 1: running the pump? Is it somehow related to that work 610 00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:39,480 Speaker 1: he did on the coil in the back of the head. 611 00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:41,440 Speaker 1: Some things for you to look at, Terry, call me 612 00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:43,200 Speaker 1: back next week. I'm running any of the car doctor 613 00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:46,960 Speaker 1: reminding you the mechanics aren't expensive, they're priceless. See you